Danny Jones Podcast - #29 - The Real Life 'Breaking Bad' Case | Matthew Cox

Episode Date: December 26, 2019

Matthew Cox joins the podcast to tell the story of Los Angeles drug kingpin Pierre Rausini, who was wrongfully sentenced to 40 years in Prison for murder conspiracy in order to cover for multiple dirt...y DEA agents. US attorney Robert Mueller (who was in charge of the case) and the federal government have been covering it up to this very day. DEVIL EXPOSED is supported by over 120 exhibits — nearly 750 pages of documentation conclusively proving Mueller’s extraordinary efforts to obstruct justice.  These exhibits can be viewed on: http://devilexposedexhibits.com Matt Cox YouTube Channel: http://bit.ly/2EoqWnM Devil Exposed on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2t25FO7 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let's start it. You ready? Ready. Here we go. Matt Cox number four. The fourth installment of the Matt Cox series. These tails are fucking riveting. Man, these tails are just... You like my stickers?
Starting point is 00:00:22 You like it? Yeah. You can have that whole stack if you want. Yeah, I'll put one on. We put them up everywhere. If I had a Ferrari, I wouldn't put it on. Yeah, yeah. A piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:00:31 We'll stick one on the halfway house. All of your stories are, just so mind-blowing. I just finished a couple hours ago, devil-exposed, which is the story we're going to talk about today on today's podcast, but the crazy thing about all your stories is that they are all
Starting point is 00:00:48 they are all worthy of having screenplays. They're all worthy of being feature films, which is insane. Yeah. It's like you're turning over these stones. I mean, they're not stories that are making headlines. No one's looking for this kind of stuff. You were just there and the fact that by chance you met Rusini, the guy, the main guy who tells the story.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Right. Yeah, I was actually, it's pretty incredible. So how did the guy Rusini, how did you meet this guy and how did he introduce this whole story to you? He does legal work and he works with Frank Amadeo. Oh, really? Yeah, he, you know, bounces that like they bounce ideas off each other. Really, Rossini would say I bounce ideas off of Frank because, you know, he's like, because he's so smart. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:34 And Rossini's, he doesn't really talk to almost anybody. I don't think he talked to anybody for months, except for Frank. He's got a touch, and even he'll admit this, he's got, he goes, I have a little bit of an Asperger's syndrome. Okay. Just a touch, you know, he's socially a little awkward. Matter of fact, you know what I ought to do? I have a clip of him at a wedding. It's like a, where he gives a toast.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Oh, really? Yeah, I think he's probably pretty shit-faced. But he does give a toast, but you can actually see like, a 25-year-old, you know, uh, Rucini. Yeah. Okay. Where can you see that? You have it like saved somewhere?
Starting point is 00:02:16 Yeah, I have it. I have it on my computer. Okay. Yeah, send it. Shoot. And my assistant can send it to you. Before we get too far into, uh, how you met him, can you give me the basic logline of the story devil exposed that Rucini told you?
Starting point is 00:02:30 Or that the story about Rucini, which is called devil exposed, which is the book that you wrote. Right. Right. So what is the basic synopsis or logline of that story? It's, you know, he's in a, Racini is an admitted drug dealer or, you really use a manufacturer of drug or drug trafficker. So he manufactures drugs, super smart guy. Anyway, so he's a, let's say he's a drug trafficker, and he gets roped into a conspiracy that he was not involved in.
Starting point is 00:03:03 he gets set up by essentially the FBI and an FBI informant. And he ends up, he basically gets railroaded. He ends up in federal prison. And the person that... He got framed for a murder, right? Right, right. Yeah, he got framed for a murder that he didn't commit in order to save the ass, to save the asses of a couple FBI agents that were dirty.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Right. Okay. And Mueller was the U.S. attorney at that time in San Francisco. And he, you know, like I said, he didn't start the conspiracy. He came in part way and discovered it was a conspiracy, but instead of untangling it and saying, you know, unraveling the whole thing and saying, well, well, this isn't right. We got to go after these guys and these guys. Instead, he just furthered the conspiracy and basically let these guys go into, you know, let these guys rot in prison.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Mueller did that. Yeah. Now, keep in mind, two of the guys definitely murdered. Rob, and we're talking about like the Robert Mueller, the guy that's all over CNN, the Mueller report. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy, special counsel investigating him, Trump. But, you know, and this is the thing I think I mentioned to you before, it's like, you know, this is what's so fucked up. It would be an amazing story.
Starting point is 00:04:31 It'd be a better story if Mueller had nothing to do with it. Because what happens is Mueller ends up overshadowing everything becomes Mueller, Mueller, Mueller. Well, if his name was John Doe, you'd be like, oh, man, this guy got framed. Instead, everybody that reads it focuses in on Mueller. Yeah. That's really bullshit. He's kind of like a selling piece to the story. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Well, and what happens is people become polarized when politics are involved. But to me, it's not about politics. I don't have a problem with Mueller. I don't care that it's Mueller. I could give a shit. What I care about is that a U.S. attorney helped further a conspiracy, did not cut this guy loose, and has continued to conspire to keep this guy,
Starting point is 00:05:13 keep Rusini in prison. And, you know, this guy, listen, the two guys that committed the murders, bro, they had Thanksgiving with their family. Yeah. He didn't kill it. He got 40 years. Pete, meaning Rucini. Rossini, sorry. Pete, aka he refers him as Pete, but we're talking about Rucini in the story.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Right, right. I'll try and stick with Rucini. Correct me. I just want to try to keep it very... Yeah, consistent. It's very... The story is like convoluted with names and it's hard to follow with all the names. Well, and that's why I'm thinking we just... Here's what I'm thinking. Because, you know, there's some stuff...
Starting point is 00:05:52 And I don't know if you noticed this. And you made it clear about why it's so confusing. Because Rucini, the way he told you... He wanted to focus, he wanted to put a lot of focus on all the little details because they meant so much to him. Right, because he's been locked up over 20 years. It's his life. It's his whole life. So if you're fighting your case for 20 years, every single thing is massive in your mind.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And you have to think your world in prison is very small. So to me, you hear something. You're like, I'm not going to mention that. It's no big deal. He's like, no, no, it's super important because so-and-so did such and such. And that's why it's so-and-so. And then when I got arrested, they said that I did this and I didn't. That wasn't even my fault.
Starting point is 00:06:28 That wasn't even my stuff. Right. You're like, Jesus, God Almighty, though. Right. There's a lot of little details like that. There's all these little details that what happens is he doesn't realize because I told you he has a, he's a touch of Asperger syndrome. Super smart. Like, makes me feel like I'm drooling.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I mean, he really, he's just brilliant. You can say, I can ask anything, you know, and say, yeah, I wonder what's, you know, you don't have internet. I don't pick, I can't pick up and say, hey, Siri, when did this happen? I'll say something and he'll say. You activated Siri. Oh my God. That's funny. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:03 The feds are listening right now. They're listening live. But he immediately, he'll know it. He'll go, he'll say the date. Oh, yeah, that happened. And that was 1982. That was October 19th. I'm not sure if it was the 14th or 15th.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And you're like, the fuck do you know that? And he goes, well, because it was so-and-so's birthday. And on her birthday, we went to go see this, this, you know, this whatever, concert. And I remember it was two days later in that episode. It had to be the 15th. Yeah. You know, it was definitely the 15th. You're like, the fuck.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Like fucking rain man. And it's bizarre. It really is bizarre. And I could, what was, but what was great about it was, I could turn around. I'd go, hey, Pete, when did this happen? Oh, that was, that was October 13th. I remember because, and he, and he'll tell you why he remembers. You know, and as he gets to know you, he loosens up a little bit, you know, funny guy.
Starting point is 00:07:55 We would laugh all the time. Works for Frank Amade. They both do legal work. And of course, you know, he's done a good portion of his own legal work. Yeah. Listen, this guy's been sentenced. What, three, four times? Was it four times?
Starting point is 00:08:11 He's been sentenced. No. I thought it was two 20-year sentences. No, no. But that was at the same time. I'm saying he then appealed it. Oh, yeah. Got a portion knocked off, then appealed it.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Got a portion knocked off. Then appealed it. Got a portion knocked off. So he's been sentenced. Let's see. One, wait, one, two, three, four. He's been sentenced it four times. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Who the fuck gets, who wins three appeals? That's crazy. You got to have something wrong with your case to win. You can't win one appeal. Yeah. You know how many 2255s are, that's a habeas action where you say that your lawyer is ineffective? Man, there's something like 3,500 of them that are filed for every one that is actually approved. I'm sure the appeal ratio is way lower.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Right. Wow. So he, I mean, he's, there's, listen, when you see. When you see this, oh, you know what's so funny? Remember, so you just got down radiant? Remember when the guy after Mueller gives him that gives Pete the ironclad agreement that he's going to, his sentence will be reduced? Yeah. And then the new U.S. attorney says, your, your honor, there's no agreement.
Starting point is 00:09:16 We've never, we have never promised this man anything. So we're seeing it's like, what the hell? I have a copy of it right here. Yeah, I have a copy right here. And he sends it in. Do you have a copy of it? So I got a copy of it. No.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I print it out. 740 pages, right? I printed... You have the agreement that him and Robert Mueller signed? Yeah, it's got... I mean, I gotta get... Right, right, right, we'll get to that. We'll get to it.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yeah. Oh, wait. That's crazy. Where do you print all this stuff at? That's it right there. I wrote down, uh, right here. See, I tagged some of the important ones. Because you cut me an hour short, so I got all, I'm all frazzled and shit.
Starting point is 00:09:49 So I was going to have everything tagged. I was all excited. Uh, fuck me up. So, yeah, uh, promised, uh, this is a promise in this, uh, uh, letter confirming agreement between you and the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Northern District of California. And this is the actual promise where they actually say, and it's these two paragraphs right here where they say, right after you cooperate, we will cut your, or we will reduce your sentence. They never say that. Never. I've never, this is the only one I've ever seen. And if you told me
Starting point is 00:10:17 about it, if I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't even believe it. Wow. Because I'd be like they don't do it. Period. They just don't do it. No. Just doesn't happen. So let's start back from the beginning. So you, you know, You meet Rusini in prison. Right. Do you approach him? Does he approach you? How does this whole thing get kicked off?
Starting point is 00:10:32 Frank was working on my case. And I kept sitting at the table. I was working on another guy's story named Donovan Davis. And Domes has a really good story, too. It's about a con man. What's so funny about his story is that the whole story is that Donovan's the mark. He just happened to end up in prison. The con man is this guy Blaine.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And so I love Blaine. I'm like, Blaine's up. He did what? Oh, that's great. He's like, you know, I hate this fucker, right? You know, it ruined my life. I'm like, yeah, he's pretty cool. I should read this one and he's like, and I would,
Starting point is 00:11:03 and he was always like, you know, you fucking remind me of him, right? Yeah. I know, I'm sorry about that, Donovan. So what happened with, you know, he just, anyway, but Pete and Frank are working on Donovan stuff. Okay. And I kept coming around and eventually Pete started talking to me. And then, you know, we would talk a little here and a little there.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And then one day Donovan said, you know, have you. talked to Pete about his case? And I went, you mean Frank? No, no, Donovan. Oh, Donovan. Okay. Because I was all working on Donovan's story. You were working on Donovan story. I was working on Donovan story. Frank and Pete were working on his legal case. Okay. And so Donovan one day said, you ought to talk to Pete. Because I was wrapping up Donovan's story. And I was finishing it up. And it's on the website. It's called The Gap. Okay. So I, you know, I said, oh yeah. And he goes, yeah, you ought to talk to him. So I mentioned it. And hey, Pete, you know, Donovan said, you have a really interesting. interesting story. And he said, Donovan was the one who kept saying, yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:02 yeah, the, um, his U.S. attorney ended up being FBI director. He's like one of the longest running FBI directors. I was like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And he was like Robert Mueller. Oh, okay. Mueller, to me, was nobody. He's nobody then. What year was this? About two,
Starting point is 00:12:14 three years ago. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I would know the, what does it say? 17? 17, maybe. Um, hold on.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah. October 17, October 2017. Okay. So we started talking. We walked around the compound a few times. He told me some stuff. It did sound.
Starting point is 00:12:35 You know what it sounded very breaking bad? Oh, yeah. It's straight breaking bad. These guys are cooking crystal meth. In Hollywood. In Hollywood. Beverly Hills and Penn House sweets and shit. Not only that, but they hired a chemistry professor to cook all the crystal meth.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Right. That's the guy that teaches Rusini how to do it. Right. They go to like, is it? It's not UCLA. Well, no, they do go to UC. LA. They go to, but that's not where he's from, though. He wasn't the professor there, but that's where they go to use the chemistry. You know, there's no internet. So they're going
Starting point is 00:13:05 there and studying and they're refining them. And they would break it down so that they didn't get any, any of the controlled substance, controlled whatever products or that they're, so then they're breaking it down to the essentials and building everything up and coming. I mean, it's amazing. Yeah. What he was doing is amazing. I mean, listen, I'll bet you Pete's got 160 IQ at least. Yeah. I mean, just, the guy's just brilliant. Couldn't tell you how much car cost. You know what I'm saying? He's like he's rain man. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:33 Yeah. He's just, but he's brilliant. So what happens is we start talking. We start walking around the compound. And so I finish up Donovan's story. And then I was doing somebody else's story. And I basically heard, he told me his whole story. I was like, man, that's really good. You know, he kept focusing on his case.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I was like, yeah, okay, but, you know, basically I understand the dirty agents. And when he started talking about dirty FBI agents, dirty, and I was like, you know, it's like, okay, bro, let's be reasonable here. You know what I'm saying? Can you prove that? He's like, yeah, I can prove it. He has like 24, 25 bankers boxes filled with stuff. They've got a whole room with it stacked in there.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Listen, the staff hate his guts. And they're like, you got a whole fucking room with all your boxes, but he's got a court order. Says you can't throw it away. So he, uh, anyway, so he's like, yeah, I can prove it. And he's like, I can prove. He said, look, the agents retired. You know, this happened.
Starting point is 00:14:28 They admit this. They admit that. So, anyway, I'm like, okay, so I was skeptical. But then as you get to know him, you realize that, you know, he doesn't, he's not, he's not a liar. Yeah. He's not an exaggerator. He's not, he's not that guy. It's all about facts for him.
Starting point is 00:14:43 He can't massage things. You know, it's like, yeah, but if you say, you ought to just say it like this from now on. And he's like, yeah, but that wouldn't be, that wouldn't be accurate because technically it and you're like, oh, Christ. Right, right, right. All right, Pete. You can say it like that. If I say it's this, he's like, well, the actual legal term is, what the legal term is?
Starting point is 00:15:04 I'm writing a story here. Nobody knows the difference between that and that, you know? So this whole thing started basically when he was like in his early 20s and they started manufacturing ecstasy, right? Right, started with ecstasy. Yeah. And it wasn't even illegal yet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:18 So then it becomes illegal. And he and he and this guy named John Ellenberger, Ellenberger brings him in because he's a super smart kid. And Ellenberger is a few years older than him. And he asks around and he knows him through some other guys. And he comes to him and he approaches him a few times. And Ellenberger's at this point, like mid-20s driving a Ferrari and he's running around L.A., just slinging Coke and ecstasy. And banging models.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah. I mean, literally banging Playboy models. I mean, he's a rock star. And he's partying with guys from Axel, I mean, from Guns and Roses. Yeah. In the other, in the larger volume book, when I talk about how Pete would come home. these guys from fucking Guns and Rose who would be on the couch
Starting point is 00:15:58 with his little brother playing the guitar. That's crazy. He's like, you know, it wasn't a big deal. Looking back, I realized, yeah, that's not normal. Yeah. He's also,
Starting point is 00:16:06 they're living in a two and a half million dollar house. He's like, with no furniture. You know, he's like, I mean, it's, you know, you're kids. You're just stupid. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:14 So, but yeah, they move. And so they set up a, they end up, they end up, they're making a ton of money. Pete starts making a ton of money. And then what they do is this guy,
Starting point is 00:16:24 Robillus comes along. And he comes, to them and they know they know the circle of drug dealers, they know these guys are manufacturing acts. So Robillus comes in and says, look, can you manufacture this? And it's just crystal.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And he goes, what is it? He goes, it's called ice. It's crystal meth. He's this methamphetamine, but it's crystallized and it's a super pure form of it. Right. And he goes, well, yeah, give it to me and I'll put in the mass spectrometer and fucking break it down, figure out what's in this shit. Keep me out, it's a pre-internet. Yeah. So they break
Starting point is 00:16:54 it down. He talks to the he talks to the professor and they go and they break it down and the professor says, okay, well, we got to do this and this. So they break it all down. It's breaking bad. They figure the shit out and they don't,
Starting point is 00:17:07 but they're not making meth. They're making crystal meth, which I didn't know the difference. I wonder if breaking bad was based off this fucking story. You know, when it's breaking bad first come out. There's a guy that's based off of. Is that?
Starting point is 00:17:16 Yeah. I mean, this seems too. Yeah, I've seen the story on the, there's a guy that looks just like that guy in Breaking Bad. Yeah, and Breaking Bad was way after this too. You know, this is, Bring about it like 10, 15 years after that.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Right. So, actually, the professor does get busted eventually. Right. I've read two articles on him, getting busted. And how did they get this, this, this chemistry professor to manufacture the crystal math? Well, he needed money. Money. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:42 It's always money. Yeah. I mean, listen, I got. He didn't have cancer, did he? No, it's not. It's not in this book. Yeah. But in the, in the, the full book is, I mean, the professor is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:17:53 I mean, like, he's dating this. he's dating this tall black chick that piece like that it may have been a man because I mean Adam's Apple he was like we had some serious discussions he was 25 years younger than him
Starting point is 00:18:05 he goes he's just head over heels he said I mean it was it was bizarre yeah it was bizarre so you know and he and he of course he's smoking do I mention that he's free basing free basing smoking coke
Starting point is 00:18:17 right right which you know back then was not like it wasn't crack it was freebase close to the same same fucking thing. I understand it. And his mind was different. Right, right. I'm not doing it, of course, it's different. Yeah, right. I'm not smoking crack. They're free basin. So he, uh... There's a difference, God damn it. So they're doing the
Starting point is 00:18:36 drugs and everything. I mean, he and, uh, he and Ellenberger end up, they get into a huge fight. They separate. And then so Pete takes over. When they, Pete takes over, they end up making, uh, start making... So Pete starts cooking it? Yeah, cook. He's been doing it. Oh, I mean, he... So Pete learned from the chemist. He learned, absolutely. He was he was his right-hand man. Okay, cool. You know, he's talking about the part where he's driving him around because he kept, the professor keeps crashing cars and shit. So he's kind of like the handler.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Right. He's babysitting him. But he also has learned everything. And Pete's super smart, so he picks up right away. So I've been, listen, I've been in Coleman before where actual chemist come and sit down and Pete starts talking to him. And he's like, what's the chemical combination? And they start talking. And the guy will walk away and he'll have a chemistry degree.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And he's like, where do you graduate? I'm like, fucking graduate. What he's talking about? He's got a high school. He's got a high school diploma. are what I'm like, what? I'm like, yeah. And he's like, fucking he knows this and this and this. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:19:29 dude, he's a sharp dude. Yeah. So, you know, if only it used his superpowers for good. Right. Jesus. Yeah. So what happens is they start making ice and they start making a ton of
Starting point is 00:19:45 money with ice. And so at some point this guy, there's a task force set up throughout California. There's many task force and most of them are the FBI's involved in or over in some way. And
Starting point is 00:20:01 they'll, they will conscript people from the other, the state agencies. What they do is they deputize them as basically FBI agents. You know, they call, they'll call him a, he's an FBI, he's a deputized federal
Starting point is 00:20:17 officer working for the FBI task force. So he's in he, so all of the So he's now enforcing all of the federal laws. He's an FBI agent is what he is. And that comes up a few times. So whenever you hear me say FBI, FBI, FBI keeps being brought up. The government keeps trying to separate them.
Starting point is 00:20:36 No, no, that was like Mueller's like, he was a state. He was a state. No, he wasn't state. And specifically, this is the document that I was talking about where I explained that this is where the guy, Sean Barrera. Now, who was Sean Barrero? I mean, he says right here, deputized special federal officer for the FBI. Okay. That's Sean Barrero.
Starting point is 00:21:05 He works for the FBI task force, the drug task force. And it's right here and it's, anyway, this is on the website. It's like Exhibit 8. Okay. So, Exhibit 8. So, and I don't go through all the exhibits. There's 740 pages of exhibits. I've knocked it down to maybe this is maybe 200 pages.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Okay. And I feel like I trimmed it down pretty good. Yeah. There's some stuff I would love to go over, but the fact that matter is, you know, nobody's going to fucking watch a six-hour podcast. Well, they might actually. If you're doing it, they'll watch it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:36 That's funny. Okay. So, anyway, so, like, this is going to be a little issue because the only reason I'm not even really don't want to focus on the book because someone watching, oh, man, I'm sorry. See, I'm a hands guy. Yeah. talk to my phone. So, you know, the problem is what we're talking about, people will watch him say, oh, that's bullshit. That's not true. Okay, well, don't fucking try. Don't listen to me,
Starting point is 00:22:03 bro. Go on the, buy the book. Definitely buy the book. By the book. Go on the website. I got a whole website with 740 pages of documents. And they, they're, this thing is, man, this thing, there's never been anything this supported with documentation. Right. So, I'm saying, I'm just going to go, let's just go, kind of go through the documents. So I don't have to read them anything because I know we had taught that talk. It's boring. I'll just explain what each document is and we'll just kind of go through and that will tell the story. So let's tell the story through the documents instead of the book.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Right. You know, I mean, there is a book. There is a book. Devil Exposed. You can buy it on Amazon. You buy it on Amazon. The link is below. Links below.
Starting point is 00:22:43 So here is, okay, so Barero is an FBI agent. And his main asset is a guy named Mark Farsion. Right. Farsion is he rides with the Hales Angels. He was once a drug dealer. Now he's just a professional. He's a professional. Informant.
Starting point is 00:23:06 So he gets, he weasles his way into groups. He gets them comfortable with them. He starts dealing drugs with them. And they come in and crack them, right? This is common. The problem is there's a lot of money involved. And so what happens is these guys start ripping up periodically.
Starting point is 00:23:24 They're in a situation where I've kind of infiltrated your group. You trust me. We set up a deal. You bring half a million dollars. I'm supposed to bring the drugs. I don't bring the drugs. I just bring my badge and my gun. And I say, give me the shit, FBI.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Or we can just bust you. You've got a life sentence on you right now. You're going to get a life sentence. Or just give me hand over the drugs or the money or whatever it is. Just sticks them up for it. Now, what could this guy do with, what could this guy possibly do with, for example, 10 pounds of ice? Oh, well, he just could take that and then parlay it into another drug deal, where now he just sells the ice. Now, you just sell it.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Okay, got it. Right. So if they end up getting the money, great. If they get ice, well, that's fine. Then they can then turn around and sell the ice. They're not worried about getting busted. Right. No matter what happens with.
Starting point is 00:24:09 They always got to, like, get out of jail free card, right? Well, think about it. Even if I walked in, I arranged something to go to sell it, and then, boom, there's a raid. Right. I can always turn around. And if it's just DEA, you go, whoa, what are you guys doing? I'm FBI. Right, undercover.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Right. Yeah. So, and keep my, oh, keep my. I said that about a thousand times last night. That's okay. I'm going to go with understand. Okay. You have to understand.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Okay, so. Take a shot every time he says keeping on. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So you, so you have to understand Farsione actually gave, I'm sorry, Barreiro gave Farsione a badge and a gun. So, you don't give your informant a badge and a gun. Right. He's got a badge and a gun.
Starting point is 00:24:55 He's flashing it. He's telling people he's FBI. And what's even funnier, what's not even in the book is that at one point, Fersione loses the badge. Pete's mom has it. Has it in her safety deposit box. Took pictures of it, sent it to Mueller saying, come get this badge. I don't want it. Pete told him about it during the interviews.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Mueller didn't even respond. He can't respond because a 302 would be generated. What's a 302? It's a report from the FBI. It's a chronological report so that any agent can grab it and start reading. And it tells everything that's step by step, everything that's happened, everybody we've talked to, everything we've done, every phone call we got, every interview, everything. So just documents. Everything is recorded.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Right. He doesn't even, right. Keep in mind, if I called up and said, hey, I found an FBI badge sitting outside. Within 30 minutes, there would be two agents here. Yeah, real quick. But he can't say anything because you have to hear the whole, you know, the whole story. Yeah. He can't.
Starting point is 00:25:55 He can't know about it, right. Right. He can't further this, this whole FBI thing because he's been denying it the whole time. Right. So, all right. So eventually what happens is, this is already taking too fucking long. All right. So eventually what happens is Farsione and Barrero get John Ellenberger.
Starting point is 00:26:18 to they, they go to them and they say, look, we need to buy a bunch of, like, ice or I think it was ice. Was it ice? Yeah. They wanted to buy a bunch of ice. Like 50 pounds or something. Oh, right, right. Of, was it ice or Coke?
Starting point is 00:26:32 I thought it was ice. Fuck, I don't remember. Who cares? Ice Coke. What's the difference? Right. See, Rossini would know. Oh, yeah, Rossini would know.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Oh, actually, there's a difference. Quite a big difference. Right. So what happens is a drug deal. They set up a drug deal where they, they're supposed to show up. And they're bringing product and money. And what happens is they show up and they pull out their badges. This is at their drug lab in the penthouse on sunset Boulevard.
Starting point is 00:27:03 In this high-rise building where they've got a drug lab, they go in, they get the money, they take the money. They're supposed to bring the drugs back. Instead, they pull their badges out and they say, hey, listen, man, we're taking your shit. and we're taking all this ice. They take everything and they go, just be thankful you're not going to prison right now. Don't say a fucking thing and they walk off. So Pete's there.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I think there's another guy there too. And so is John Ellenberger. So Ellenberger's like, holy shit. Keep mind, Ellenberger's been going around town vouching for this guy. He's been telling people, oh, he's good people. For Fusione? For Farsione.
Starting point is 00:27:40 For Farsion. Forreone. Barrearro, they're good guys. Oh, bad. Not good guys. Not, no, no, and not a good idea to be telling your drug dealing buddies who are serious drug dealers. They can trust him. But you can trust this guy.
Starting point is 00:27:54 And they've been dealing with him. So, fuck, it doesn't look good. Point is, is that they take the fucking money and they leave. So here's, so what happens is that happens. He's pissed off about it. Everybody's upset with him. He's lost a chunk of money, chunk of money. How much money do you think that bust was worth?
Starting point is 00:28:13 Oh, that was in the millions. It was in the millions. I mean, it was like, I think he got away with cash of like this, something like 300,000. I'd have to look at the exact amount. But all the, all the ice was over two to three million or something. Several million. Okay. Yes, at least several million.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Okay. So what ends up happening is two weeks later, two, three weeks later, two or three weeks later, they're doing another, they're cooking more ice. So they're cooking ice and everybody leaves for the day and Rossini's there and he's burning off some chemicals. Like he's like, you know, you can burn off like the water. If you burn it off, you'll still have some there and you can use that. He's all burning it off.
Starting point is 00:28:49 He ends up a lick of flame shoots up and hits the fire extinguisher or fire, whatever. And it goes off. Woo! I mean, fucking goes nuts. He's in a lab with tons of money and everything. These guys are driving Porsches and Ferraris. I mean, and they're in their early 20s. So he grabs the money.
Starting point is 00:29:12 He grabs some mice. He grabs his stuff. He goes running downstairs. He jumps in his porch. He takes off. The fire department shows up. They go in. There's a fucking meth lab.
Starting point is 00:29:25 So they call the police. The police show up. They check it out. They go, oh, my God, this is insane. Well, there's a laptop there that's Pete's. There's mail from Ellenberger. Ellenberger's like driver's license is there.
Starting point is 00:29:40 The electric and water's in different. people's names, we're all going to prison. You're all done. You got some explaining to do. I mean, he's like, you don't understand. The amount of evidence that was in there is just devastating. So they all get together and they're terrified. Like the next day they're all like freaking
Starting point is 00:29:57 out. Pete's already gone and given his lawyer $600,000 in cash because he's like, you've got to bail me out. And lawyers like, I can't bail you have $600,000. That's crazy. It's like, we'll take the, I don't know what to do. I'm going to get arrested. So they go to the mall, they're talking and they're all flipping out. And basically, because it's Pete's fault,
Starting point is 00:30:12 I'm sorry, God damn it, because it's Rusini's fault. Yeah. So because it's Rossini's fault, they say, Pete is Ruscini. Yeah. Call Farcione. We know he's dirty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:24 He's a dirty FBI agent. I mean, I know he's actually a dirty, he's actually an informant, but he's playing FBI. They think he's an FBI agent. So they're like, call him. Yeah. Call him and Barrero. The guy that took the load from him before. We know he's dirty.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah. So I can call and talk to him. Right. He kind of owes you one. So they call. calls him up, guy, you know, they go, pay phone, makes a phone call, gets the fucking call back, it's a pager, you know, talks to him and he says, hey, and so he immediately goes, what the fuck are you guys doing? We gave you a pass. We let you go. Why'd you stay in the fucking
Starting point is 00:30:58 place? You know, it's going, because keep in mind, too, they had told the FBI they were going to bust these guys. Instead, they ripped them off and they told them when we got there, there was no lab. They'd move. Now there's a lab two weeks later. They're like, we've done. They're like, He's in some shit. We've been in the office all day saying, I shit you not. They must have left. They must have come back. We didn't know.
Starting point is 00:31:18 So instead of busting them, they just got the money from them. Yeah, they took the money left. And there was nothing there. Jesus. But they didn't. Right. So Pete's like, so they end up talking and he says, they said, man, you guys are in a lot of trouble. And Pete said, I could hear he was, he was, he was really anxious.
Starting point is 00:31:35 He was scared. Yeah, I'm sorry. Racini was like, he was scared. So I saw an opportunity. He goes, and he goes, man, you guys are in a lot of trouble. He goes, yeah, well, that. Hails in comparison how much trouble you two fuckers are in. Anything happens to me or anybody that I know.
Starting point is 00:31:48 If we so much as get talked to about this shit, he goes, you guys are going down. He just ripped him off. Right. So he's like, all right, I'll take care of it. He said, call me in a couple days. So calls him back a couple days later. Nobody's ever spoken to.
Starting point is 00:32:06 They don't ever call. They don't talk. And just to let you know, this is the, this is the actual lease from a guy by the name of Joey Escoboza. Joey Escoboza, his phone numbers on here, his address, everything's on the lease. For that apartment? For the apartment. In the hills.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Exhibit 12. In the hills. Yeah. I mean, in the condo. This is the lab. The meth lab. The meth lab. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Never even got talked to. Not what matter of fact. The guy in the lease and no one ever even talked to him. Nobody even talked to him. They quashed the whole thing. They went in, boom, boom, boom. So he did, he squashed it all. You guys go away, drop the whole fucking case.
Starting point is 00:32:46 It's over. So he's like, so Pete's like, fuck. I mean, we should have all been going to jail. Yeah. To prison. So, um, this is, this one right here. This is, uh, this happens later. This is a transcript from Mark Farshione.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Where Farsione actually in the transcript, this is exhibit 10. In the transcript, he says, He actually talks about how he's playing a big Coke dealer, how they had like a lab set up over there, over there in Beverly Hills, Sunset Boulevard, Sunset Boulevard, Sunset Boulevard, Sunset Boulevard. He says it three times.
Starting point is 00:33:24 I probably coaked up. He goes, and he says that, he says basically that he switches a little bit. He says that Ellenberger came to me, because keep in mind the deputies and the agents and everybody later, they are hearing what's going on. So when they come to talk to him, he admits, yeah, yeah, something happened like that, but that's not what happened.
Starting point is 00:33:51 And he basically says, look, Ellenberger asked me to sell him some kilos of Coke. He gave me $100,000, and I ripped him off for the $100,000. I mean, he tells him, I ripped him off for the $100,000. Where's the one where he says? Why would he admit it? because he's being they're saying he was ripped off he ripped off 300,000 and a whole bunch of ice okay he's saying no no no that wasn't it that wasn't it at all he also talks about aria we talk about
Starting point is 00:34:18 aria in a second um trying to think of where he says uh shit it's actually pretty good the way he says it too damn oh here it is he says uh uh that's that's i i just told you i told him it's better than getting busted, you know, the lost money. It's basically, I, you know, I, fuck, I took the money. I shouldn't have taken it, but I did. Fuck. That's his words. He's saying, he tells them, because they're, you have to read the whole thing. Like, they're, they're badgering it. Right. Oh, you did this. Did you have a badge? I didn't have a badge. You didn't have a badge? You didn't tell people this. You're like, no, no, what about the money? We know you took the money. We didn't. And he's finally, he's like, he just fucking starts, okay, I took the
Starting point is 00:35:05 fucking money and he admits it. I shouldn't know, but I did. Right. But he downplays it to a hundred grand. He down to plays it to a hundred grand and they even ask him, did Barrero know? And he goes, yeah, I kind of, they go, so he knew? And he's like, yeah, how'd you tell him that? He's like, well, you know, I kind of eased it in. Wow.
Starting point is 00:35:21 The transcripts, the guy is such a fucking clown. I mean, he comes off like, anyway. So this I'm trying to think this is, I mean, this basically, so that's, that's him admitting. He also talks about, well, There's other stuff he talks about.
Starting point is 00:35:36 I'll know if I should put that aside. Fuck it. Anyway, I'm not worried about it. It's on the website. You got to read it that. It's just funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:44 So all these PDFs are on the website? Yeah. Okay. Everything's on the website. Not my website. The website is devil-exposed exhibits.com. Okay. I can put a link to that as well.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Yeah, yeah. This is, in here he talks about how everybody thought he was law enforcement, but he never told him he was law enforcement. Of course, I've also got about, six other statements where he showed people his badge and gun his FBI badge and gun so it's like come on what do we right so what are these are these transcripts what are these taken from like these transcripts are these from phone calls are these from no no these are the these are when when this whole thing falls apart eventually the homicides homicide detectives come in FBI agents
Starting point is 00:36:30 come in they start interviewing people yeah okay these are from interviews right got it so they're definitely they're all definitely interviews. So, do you remember? So what happens is they made the phone call. They make the thing go away. A few months and months later, they end up, Ellenberger bumps into Farsione and Barrero at the opening of the Hard Rock Cafe in Vegas, right?
Starting point is 00:36:59 Because Ellenberger is a big gambler. So he bumps into him and they have a conversation. And first he owns there with like some porn star. If you actually see the thing, I actually have the girl woman's name. I have a little thing. I have a little thing. So you can look her up. So, and he may, and every time one of these, every time he does one of these, he makes
Starting point is 00:37:18 sure to tell the, the agents. Yeah, I was with so-and-so, she's a porn star. So he likes to throw that out there. So, yeah, so he meets him and they see him. They're a little nervous, but he comes up and he talks to him. He says, listen, he goes like, what's going on? He says, look, we're actually working on. I'm trying to bust this guy, but we want to rob him.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Can you give us some ice? So now he's asking him for ice. And he goes, yeah, and Ellenberger goes, yeah, I can get you some fucking ice. So he gets him some ice because he's like, he thinks to himself, you know, doing a lot of shit. It's good to have him on his side, right? It's good to have a dirty age in your pocket. Right, all day. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:56 So that's what in this one, he talks about, yeah, he talks about meeting him at the, at the hard rock. cafe, you know, months and months later. So they end up so he ends up starts to kind of deal with him again. And what happens is everyone's periodically, you know
Starting point is 00:38:20 that's this in the book, somebody will get busted. So they gets busted or somebody's getting indicted and these guys will give that, will come to them and say, look, we're dealing with this guy. Is he cool? And they'll call Farshion. Farsian will call Barrero, Barrero, come back and say, now the guy got
Starting point is 00:38:36 busted like three, three weeks ago, he's working with, he's working. He's already talking to us. Yeah. So they stopped dealing with him. So at one point, Aria, which Aria was a drug dealer, he was supplying ecstasy. And I think, I don't know if he eventually starts dealing in ice or not, I can't recall. But he was definitely, I have a transcript where they say he's a drug dealer. Several people say he's a drug dealer.
Starting point is 00:39:04 And so what happens is, I want to say it's his. cousin gets busted with a bunch of ice. He gets just red-handed busted. So he gets busted and they contact, they contact Farsian and they explain, hey, look, this guy, he got busted. Can you fix it? And although Pete's like, I don't know what ultimately happened.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I know that Ario was, they were trying to work it out with him where they were going to pay him. And so here he says, did they call you about Reza? and he says, yeah, called me about Reza. Who called you? Pierre, Rossini, sorry,
Starting point is 00:39:44 Rusini called me and asked me... AKA Pete. Yeah, if I could do anything. Pierre, Pete, Rossini. Right. When Reza got busted, collect information, when Reza got busted,
Starting point is 00:39:57 and it goes on, he talks about how, if there was anybody he could pay off to get him out, and he said he'd look into it, and that sort of thing. Did you? He's like, you know, I looked into it, and he never really says,
Starting point is 00:40:07 exactly what happened, but Pete said, I don't know exactly what happened. He was, but I do know that about three or four weeks later, Risa walked out of jail and it was never charged or got dropped. So, once again, you know, something happened. They just paid them. They get out, get off. And Pete said they're regularly giving them $30,000, $100,000. So when these guys start getting, so this is, what is this one?
Starting point is 00:40:34 So at one point, you know, Pete has a buddy. Rossini has a buddy. Let's just stick to Pete. Yeah, I just call him Pete. Yeah, that's fine. Pete, Rossini. I go with Rossini. I can do with Rossini.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Whatever you want to do. Everyone knows by now. Okay, so Pete Rossini. Rossini gets busted at one, not busted. He gets like arrested. He's being indicted in a few different jurisdictions. He gets arrested one day. He gets thrown in jail.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Is this during the rate where they tried to, rob the guy's house when they think they stole from Ellenberger they stole a bunch of shit from Ellenberger and they go back and try to rob and they raid these details and they tie him up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Pete, yeah, Pete was always like I, you had to, that whole thing was funny because I kept saying, okay, well, during this home invasion, he was like, stop calling it. The home invasion. Yeah. Stop calling it a home invasion. I go, why? I go, it was a home invasion. He goes, first of all, he said, I stayed in the car. Yeah. He was the getaway driver. Yeah, he goes, I wasn't involved in a home invasion. He said, this was Ellenberger, hired a
Starting point is 00:41:31 bunch of guys that went in. It was a burglary. And I go, Pete, they kicked in the front door and they tied some guys up and they went and they were looking for drugs. I go, that's a home invasion. He goes, there was no such thing as home invasion there. He said, please stop saying home invasion. He's really making me feel uncomfortable. He said, I wouldn't be involved in a home invasion. I said, yeah, but a strong arm burglary? And he goes, he goes, I waited in the car. Still a part of it. That's like the guy that says, hey, I know these guys that are robbing banks. How do you know? Well, because I'm the getaway driver. Just a getaway driver
Starting point is 00:42:02 So anyway He ends up getting arrested No no that one He actually That whole thing He actually pleads it out And gets put on probation Okay
Starting point is 00:42:12 This is later Okay Later He's just being He's just getting named In different conspiracies And he's getting indicted In a couple different jurisdictions
Starting point is 00:42:20 They're looking for him So at some point he gets arrested You gotta read the book For the exact dates And what happens He gets arrested So at one point He gets arrested
Starting point is 00:42:28 Well, Rucini has a friend who's a, he's a police officer. He calls his, so he's been arrested, he's thrown in jail, he calls the police officer. And he says, hey, listen, man. He said, can you call my buddy Mark Farsione and tell him where I'm at? And he needs to get me out of jail. So he calls Farsion. Farsion does something. Obviously Farsion calls Barrero.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Because Farsion is a fucking informant. He can't call the local sheriff's department and say, hey, that's. That's my buddy let him out of jail. He calls Barrero. Barrero probably calls somebody else, like one of his superiors, one of his other buddies. Because Barrera's not even... Farshion can't make anything happen without Barrero.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Right. So he makes a phone call. He calls back. Pete walks right out of jail. They release him. This is a declaration from this guy... Is it Marius? Marcius?
Starting point is 00:43:23 I don't know. Anyway, that's his declaration where he explains that Pete called him from the jail. He made a phone call. he called Mark, Mark said he'd take care of it, Pete walked out of jail. And that back then, Pete had already,
Starting point is 00:43:40 look at the first paragraph, Pete had already told him that he knew an FBI agent, a dirty FBI agent. He'd already told him that. So keep in mind, once again, this has been going on.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Dirty agents, I'm paying them off. Everything's going good. It's going smooth. I get arrested. I go to jail. Nope, they make a phone call. They get me out.
Starting point is 00:43:58 My buddy gets busted. They do a couple of things. He walks out. Yeah. I need to know who, Who I'm dealing with. Is this guy a snitched? You know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Can you check out this guy? Hey, here's his name. Sure. Yeah, you know what? Don't deal with him. Yeah. These guys have the hookup. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:13 They're just... Big time. Yeah, they're just... It's insane. They're fucking rolling. Yeah, they got it all. So... And on the same time, Mark Farshion and...
Starting point is 00:44:22 What was the other guy's name? Barero. Those guys are raking in cash from these guys. They're robbing people left and right. They're just extorting these drug dealers for so much money, it's ridiculous. Right, right. So, they're playing both sides.
Starting point is 00:44:38 This is a guy named... Double dipping. This is a guy named Meacham. Okay, Meacham, when he ultimately gets interviewed a couple years later, he talks about how he met Rossini. He knew Rossini, he knew Rossini was dealing with a dirty, a corrupt,
Starting point is 00:44:52 a corrupt police officer working, he was working with him. And it says, Resini had once informed Meacham that if he was ever arrested, this police officer could help him out, but it would cost $100,000. I mean, that's obviously his two FBI agents.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Right. And possibly another guy, which is this other guy, Blum, that we don't mention much, but he's also, the only reason I think he's definitely involved is because there's different jurisdictions. So if you want to know what's going on this jurisdiction,
Starting point is 00:45:24 you have to call over there. Well, Blum's here. Blum's the one who's helping him here. And then when they all end up getting investigated, all of these guys take early stress. Disabilities well so does Blum same time Take it take it early stress disability Disability I'm stressed and all three I take the same exact thing absolutely well not all three because farce
Starting point is 00:45:43 She owns just a fuck well farce is not he doesn't work for the FBI yeah right he's just a right he's just a two bit biker Thug right so this okay whoa whoa whoa okay so all right so let's stop now so What happens is we you read the book so you read the book so you know know. Ellenberger is, he's in desperate straits, right? He's had a couple of bad things happen. He's lost some money. He's gambling debts are out.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Just fucking outrageous. He's been indicted in multiple jurisdictions. Feds are looking for him. Pete said, man, they had him under so much. He's on the highway to hell. Yeah, he's, he knew he's in a lot of trouble. What happens is he ends up getting himself indicted out of Hawaii. So, Barreiro and Farshone tell him, hey, you've been indicted.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Matter of fact, at one point, they go to ship some drugs. Like, they have a drug courier, and Farshaun calls the guy up and says, calls up Ellenberger and says, don't, and Rucini and says, don't let the guy go. They're waiting for him. Like, stops it. So they say, look, there's an indictment. A bunch of people are indicted.
Starting point is 00:46:57 He tells Ellenberger, you know, give me X amount of dollars. I forget what it was, how much it was. much money, I'll give you the whole list. Okay, so he calls them up and he gives him the whole list. Barrero actually admits that. So in Barrero's, one of Barrero's statements, he tells, yeah, I gave him, I gave him the list of people that were, had been indicted. In exchange for the money? Yeah, in exchange for the money. And that he was one of them. So they go to him and they say, look, maybe you ought to consider cooperating. So he says, okay, I'll think about cooperating, definitely. Well, what happens in the meantime is
Starting point is 00:47:32 he's dating this girl named Jenny Braybrooks. They end up breaking up. They break up because she finds out that Ellenberger's been cheating on him. Yeah. And I mean, he's been cheating on her forever. It's just nothing stopping this guy.
Starting point is 00:47:50 So she'd catch him sometimes. He'd lie his way out of it. You know, deny, deny, deny. Well, anyway, according to Pete, what ends up happening there is they figure out somebody, is telling Jenny what's happened that he's cheating.
Starting point is 00:48:08 So they don't know who. Ellenberger has no clue, but she's not having it. She's done with him. Well, so one day, Pete and Ellenberger go over to go over to Aria's house. So they go to Aria's house
Starting point is 00:48:23 and they stop because they're waiting for a call. Remember they paid? You have to page somebody. There's no phones. There's not cell phones, really. So they page this. Well, there are cell phones, but they're these huge things.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Right. You page somebody you can call from the line line. The guy's got a pager. So they page this guy who's going to supply him with some meth or something, I forget. It's like we were in middle school. Yeah. So they page them and they're waiting at Aria's house for the phone call. They're sitting there playing games and goofing off, playing Atari or whatever you had back then. Playing snake.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Right. So what happens is the phone rings, but they don't answer it. It's not their phone. They let it go to the answering machine. And a voice comes on and says, oh, Aria, I had such a good time last night. You're so wonderful. The flowers are beautiful. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:49:05 I love you so much. You're the best. And it's Jenny. And it's Jenny. It's Ellenberger's ex-girlfriend. Yeah. And so he realizes Aria is the one who's been telling her that I've been fucking around. And so he's just devastated.
Starting point is 00:49:20 So now Aria's hitting it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They get married. She moves in with them. They get married. The whole thing. So he's just like, I mean, he's distraught.
Starting point is 00:49:31 So he's driving around. He's found out. Does he call him out? he hears the message? No, you know what he does? He actually sets the machine so that they don't listen to it. They set it so he does, Aria doesn't even have a clue. Oh. So when for, when Barrero and Farsione kind of come around and say, look, you've been indicted and you know, you have to cooperate. He says, I'll give you Aria. I'll give you Aria. Aria and this other big time drug dealer. Neither of which he can probably really give them. Talking about Estes.
Starting point is 00:49:59 No, no, not Estes. This other guy named Robles. Okay, okay, okay. So I, I'm trying to limit the amount of names. Got it. So another big... Okay. There's so many fucking names in the story. It's crazy. So he says, okay, so he's, I'll give you Robillus and this guy.
Starting point is 00:50:13 So he starts naming guys. And of course, Aria is the one he really... He wants to give up Aria. He wants Aria bad. So, well, somehow another Aria, Aria finds out. So what ends up happening is one day Pete's out, he's out, he's partying. Nason finds out that...
Starting point is 00:50:33 Who's Nason? Nason is a guy that was basically Ellenberger's kind of do-boy. He was a young kid. He wanted to be an actor. He's like 22, 23 years old. Real good-looking guy. Comes to L.A., wants to be an actor. He's going on auditions.
Starting point is 00:50:46 And in the meantime, he's kind of Ellenberger's do-boy. Like, hey, go wash my car. Hey, do this. And he's giving him money. He gets free drugs and whatever. You know, he gets to travel with him, and Aria pays for everything. But he's just kind of an assistant.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Yeah. And so he finds out that he finds out, he gets angry. angry at Ellenberger about something. It's convoluted. It's one of those things that's like this and this. He gets pissed off at him. One, he knows also that he's cooperating. And he's going to cooperate against, he's going to cooperate against Arria. He knows Ellenberger's cooperating. Yeah, what I say. I'm just, I'm trying to make it clear. Nason knows that Ellenberger is going, is cooperating or is planning on cooperating. He hasn't done anything yet, but he's planning on cooperating and he's going to give up, he's going to
Starting point is 00:51:30 give up Aria and several other people. Nason feels really pissed off about that. There's a lot of other stuff. Ellenberger's kind of at this point. He's just kind of a jerk to everybody. He's always entitlement issues. He's a short man complex, the whole thing. Dushbag.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah. So he goes, so Nathan ends up going to this club where Rassini's dancing with his girl. He comes up. He's like, that motherfucker, I'm going to fucking beat his ass. He's like, I'm going to fucking kill this motherfucker. And he's like, bro, I'm with my girl. What are you doing? He's like, we'll talk about it later.
Starting point is 00:52:00 We'll talk about it later. He's like, fuck this motherfucker. So he leaves. Somebody, I forget who, Alonzo, somebody comes up to him, another one of the players, comes up and says, hey man, Nathan, he's like, Nathan left a while ago. He said he was going back to the place. And so, Rustini is like, you know what? Fuck, I don't want these guys. They've been in fights before.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Yeah. Fist fights. So he's like, fuck. So he goes back, goes up, goes back to the condo, goes upstairs, goes and finds him. And everything's fine. Nathan's there playing game. Are you shaving or whatever? Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:52:35 So he leaves, hangs out with his girlfriend the next day, he comes back, walks inside. Wait, wait, wait. Ari is dead. I mean, I'm sorry. Okay. Shit, Ellenberger, thank you. He goes back to the condo. He goes back to the condo.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Ellenberger is there. Everything's there. Everything's fine. So he says, okay, everything's fine. No sort of confrontation at all. None. So he leaves. He said the next day, though, I spend the night with my girl.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I come back that next day. I walk in. He says he walks in. Ellenberger's dead. He's laying in the middle of the bedroom, one of the bedrooms, dead. He said his neck was twisted in a way that he said as soon as I saw it, it was like he's very unnatural the way he said. I was like, immediately I knew. Oh my God, he's dead.
Starting point is 00:53:14 He's like, I ran. I tried to fucking wake him up. Are you okay? He's like, but immediately I realize he's dead. Yeah. So he immediately makes, he immediately calls Farschion. First thing. First thing calls Farsion because he's got a dead body.
Starting point is 00:53:29 His best friend is dead in his meth lab. I can't call the police. Right. I have a life sentence in meth. Yeah. Right here. I have to mention the money and everything else. Can't call the police.
Starting point is 00:53:42 That's not an option. No. So he ends up calling. So he calls Farsione. Farsion apparently he said, he said, it sounded like he already knew what was going on. Come to find out later, of course, Nason had,
Starting point is 00:54:04 had he said Nason says they got into a fight this is one of many versions Nason has said by the way he said they got into a fight and he ended up breaking his neck
Starting point is 00:54:15 he said but it was probably broken He said but he strangled him snapped his neck he probably got in a head lot snapped his neck whatever it was he killed him
Starting point is 00:54:24 so Pete doesn't know what to do you know Nason's no fucking help he's a kid Yeah so but the point is is that Nason if you look at all the phone records and you read the phone book, Pete calls him,
Starting point is 00:54:38 Nathan calls back, he calls Aria. Aria calls Escobozer or someone or Alonzo. Alonzo calls John's, Ellenberger's phone
Starting point is 00:54:51 and it lets it ring and ring and ring and ring because they're trying to figure out that part was confusing to me. That part was confusing. Yeah, because they're trying to figure out is he really dead. Nathan just said he's dead,
Starting point is 00:55:01 but we don't know if he's dead. Right. Aria doesn't want to call. so he gets this guy to call never answers so okay fine so in the aftermath they end up Pete ends up calling this guy named Harrison right was Harrison's first name I don't I don't I don't remember how Harrison got into this yeah well because he was a drug dealer and he somebody knows somebody so he calls Harrison he said to be he said to be honest he said we called a bunch of people he's like we call he said nobody wanted to help us
Starting point is 00:55:36 Oh, is Harrison one of the guys who got disposed of his body? Yeah, he calls Harrison. Harrison says, I'll come with a couple of guys. It's going to be this much money. I'll get rid of the body. Okay. So they come. They dump Ellenberger's body.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Package up the body. They dump the body in a dumpster, and it ends up getting, they never find it. I thought they... No, no. The other guy gets dumped in a dumpster, too. They're both in dumpsters. Yeah, but one guy gets found. One guy doesn't.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Los Angeles dumpsters. Yes. You never know, kid or miss when you're disposing of bodies. You got a whole bunch of desert out there, but, you know, they're lazy. Yeah. Strow it in a dumpster. Right, start in a dumpster. You got a 50-50 chance that they wrap them up in a, what do they wrap them up in?
Starting point is 00:56:16 Wrap them up in a sleeping bag. Right. And what's so fucked up is that Pete, like whenever I would say, oh shit, I just fucking hit the camera. Yeah, I don't think you moved it. What's messed up about it is that we would be in the library at calls. Coleman and Pete and I would be asking questions. And I'd say something. Like, we'd be arguing back and forth or joking around.
Starting point is 00:56:45 And he'd say something. Well, what do your co-defendants say about you? And I'd go, and I go, listen, all my co-defendants are alive. And he'd look at me and he'd go. And he'd look at me and he'd go, fuck. He'd go, all I did was help move the body. And I was like, of course, you got all these other inmates around going, what the fuck did he just say?
Starting point is 00:57:06 And I'd be like, stop. fucking saying that. You need to stop saying it. It doesn't help your case. No. You know, it doesn't, that's not the kind of thing
Starting point is 00:57:13 that you come off. You can't say that and come off well. No, no, no, no. So he, so anyway,
Starting point is 00:57:21 so yeah, we've got phone records of all of these guys calling each other back and forth, back and forth. Right after they found Ellenberger dead.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Right. We got Arias Pager. You have the records of them calling Farshione. Call him Farsion, calling Barrero, where Barrero calls. Do they have a direct line to Barrero?
Starting point is 00:57:40 Oh yeah, you can call it. Pete's called directly called the task force. Oh, God. And talk to him for like five minutes, ten minutes. So if Barrera's like, well, I've never spoken to that guy. He's called you five fucking times in the last two weeks. He didn't talk to you for 30 seconds. So we have phone records right after you found your best friend fucking crystal meth dealer dead.
Starting point is 00:58:00 You called an FBI agent right after that. Right. You have records. Records of that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. These are the records Yeah, LN, see, Aria's page
Starting point is 00:58:08 or Farsione's page or Barrero's pageer. But if you keep going, Barrero's office at B&E right here. That's these right here. Okay. And they have the duration. This was 12 minutes, 22 minutes. Anyway, okay.
Starting point is 00:58:24 So, and this goes on and on because the only reason, the reason this is important is that basically when the homicide started to get investigated and there's a link to the actual agents, these guys tell the homicide detective oh we haven't talked to him in months it's been four or five months we haven't talked to him
Starting point is 00:58:41 since we saw him in Vegas or wherever yeah yeah no no little shit I got phone records well there's a lot of phone records here that's it's so that's weird phone records that's super weird that happens but keep in mind too back then
Starting point is 00:58:54 you wouldn't be that stupid now would you because you know immediately you know oh fuck that they'll grab my phone they'll do this they'll just go on the computer and figure out But back then, look at these phone records. That was a process to get those. This is like, you know, dot matrix and shit. You know, they could purge it once it's gone.
Starting point is 00:59:11 You know, here nothing's going to be, we're going to disappear. So, okay, so once again, REO cell. Okay, so. I'm going to put this aside, too. So here's what happens is Sydney. Oh, yeah, this is the one. So after that happens. We're going, we're shuffling through documents here.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Okay, I'm sorry. No, it's okay. I'm just trying to make the people who are. listening and not watching the video so they understand what's going on. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. So, you know, so keep in mind, too, later you're going to realize everybody blames Rossini. First, they all say he shot him. He shot Ellenberger. He was never shot.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Everybody, even when they eventually get the guy. And all the documents say, shot shot shot, shot, shot. But they never found the body, so how would they know? No, well, because when Nathan pleads guilty, he says, I choked him to death. Why would you say that? Nathan said he choked him. Nathan says he personally choked him to death. Remember, we know he broke his neck, right? We know he choked him to death.
Starting point is 01:00:05 So ultimately, though, I mean, even though everybody points at Rossini, when ultimately, Nathan finally says, yes, yes, I killed him. They say, okay, well, what did you shoot him with? Where's the body? He goes, no, I didn't shoot him. I choked him to death. Same thing Rossini has been saying the whole time.
Starting point is 01:00:20 He wasn't shot. He was choked to death. So who made up the whole shot? Okay, we're getting to that. Yeah. Yeah. We're getting there. They're trying to make both the murders look the same. Like it's the same person. Got it.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Got it. So. So this, so right afterwards, if Rucini shot him and he's this cold-blooded murderer, right, that he killed him because he knows he's cooperating. So he killed him. That's what everybody says. He's killed him. He killed him because he's cooperating.
Starting point is 01:00:44 And Rucini was afraid he was going to cooperate against him, so he shoots him and gets rid of the body. Well, if that's the case, this woman here, when Pete goes to to see, to see Wayne Harrison, right? this is his girlfriend who says that Wayne tells her that Pete had just found his friend dead and she says specifically that Pete looked very sad that he looked sad confused and you know he asked to talk to Wayne alone and then Wayne came back and told her he just found his he found his best friend dead I got to get rid of the body so that's what so if Pete's this cold blood of murder he walks in there practically in tears right he just found his best friend dead. Wow. So what happened, so after he finds, finds him dead, how to, and he calls Farshion,
Starting point is 01:01:34 right? What plays out after that? Like, what's, what comes after that? Everybody starts saying that he went to Mexico. I don't think I really mention that. They say the Ellenberger went to Elenberger went to Mexico. Whenever somebody asked, they're like, oh yeah, yeah, no, he's cool. He's down in, he's down in Mexico, he's in Mexico. Everybody's saying Mexico. Okay. Keep mind, too, his, you know, people start, your family starts looking for you. Right, right. But there's no body. Right. And this a guy who would take off to Brazil, which he'd done with Pete. I have pictures of them in Brazil.
Starting point is 01:02:04 He goes, because Pete's, he's Brazilian. So, they would go to Brazil and be there for two or three weeks. And, you know, these are not guys that are keeping in touch with anybody. They're just doing whatever they want. They're living. They got a ton of money. They're right. You know, they're rest- Whenever they want. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:18 So, this is a guy that Pete says, this guy, Sidney, Berman, says that he knew Pete. He knew Racini, and Rossini had told him if he ever got in trouble he knew a dirty FBI agent. I told him that he had ripped him off, took a go that took dope and money and let him go.
Starting point is 01:02:41 He stated that Rusini said that the federal agent could get a list of informants that the agent was crooked and would do it for money. And this is a guy, keep in mind, he's not he's not in trouble he's just just young guys shooting the shit yeah man I know a fucking different I know an agent
Starting point is 01:03:03 he'll check that guy out for you yeah give me the number he makes a fucking phone call boom boom boom yeah he's good you can deal with him so this is just dirty agents
Starting point is 01:03:12 okay you know well the only reason I keep harping on it is because later the government's like it's all bullshit no no they're not dirty agents no it's all bullshit that's not true
Starting point is 01:03:23 okay there's a lot of paperwork that points otherwise. A lot of people are saying, a lot of guys walking out of jail, a lot of cases getting busted. A lot of, you know, and why is Pete telling everybody this guy ripped me off and stole all my fucking money? Check Brero's bank account. Right. So at some point he starts dealing with another guy named Lance Estes.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Okay. All right. And who is Lance Estes? He's a drug dealer out of San Francisco. Okay. So, you know, Estes is a, you know, works out all the time. He's a big guy, good looking guy. They're all fucking good looking guys.
Starting point is 01:03:54 They're all driving Porsches and Ferraris. And it's ridiculous. The amount of money, I mean, they're superstars. They're all rock stars. They're all working out. It's like, what would you do if you were making $100,000 a month that had nothing to do? And tons of drugs and women, a maniac. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:09 So these guys are maniac. Let alone you're in your early 20s. Right. So these guys are maniac. So he explains what ends up happening is Lance Estes is dealing with Rusini. And he ends up getting busted. He and his best friend get busted. get, you know, they get, they get, they get busted by the, uh, by the local, um, task force.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Well, when they get busted, they've heard about, you know, they've heard about, you know, they know we're seeing you, they've heard about this dirty agent. So they contact him and Pete says to him, look, he can get rid of your case for $100,000. So Lance is cocky and, you know, Estes is cocky and he's like, you know, I'll give you 50,000 up front, but I want to meet this motherfucker. You know, he's a fucking tough guy. Mm-hmm. So they go and they meet and he meets them.
Starting point is 01:04:53 and Farshi meets Farsion and Barrero's across the street. It's never confirmed that Barrero's across the street, but we know from several different reports that there was a guy, there was an FBI, there was someone across the street. We assume it's Barrero. So he ends up telling him, he ends up pulling a gun on Estes
Starting point is 01:05:14 because Estes kind of gets in his face and he pulls out his badge and sticks a gun in his face. He goes, motherfucker he says, I'll put a bullet in you right now and I'll put this piece on you. He says, you see my partner over there? he'll say he saw the whole thing. You pulled it on me and I fucking killed you.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Now back your fucking ass up. So he's like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So he realizes, okay, he's definitely an agent. He's got this guy over here. He's got this. He's got the badge. He's, I'm done. He's like, this guy's for real.
Starting point is 01:05:36 So they set up a time. They give him 50. They met at a hotel. They met in a motel. Give him $50,000. He gets a room here. He gets a room here. They meet here.
Starting point is 01:05:45 They come down. They give the thing. It's a whole fucking spy thing. Right. So they give him 50 grand. and these are reports of the guys talking about how Lance told, Lance or Estes told him that he had given $50,000 in cash to Rossini and that the money was a down payment and was going to blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:06:06 So this is him telling one of his buddies. I gave Rossini, gave the money to down payment to get my case quashed. Okay. So we're good. I just pay $50,000 down. We're going to get it taken care of. What he doesn't realize is that the guy he's telling, which is his best friend,
Starting point is 01:06:22 is already gone to the authorities and said, I know we're supposed to be working with you, but my buddy's still selling drugs, and he's now dealing with that dirty FBI agent. So he's now double-crossed him. Yeah. So now the authorities are like, whoa, you double-crossed, but you're in bed with an FBI or some FBI agent
Starting point is 01:06:42 you just gave 50 grand to. So that helps. So did you get his case squashed? Did he end up paying him the full 100, grand and getting that whole thing taken care of? He does give him 100 grand, but what ends up happening is, I mentioned that Lance with this. Yeah, yeah. This is his girlfriend, by the way.
Starting point is 01:07:02 So this is Lance Estes' girlfriend, which is Monica Treo. Okay. And she tells a grand jury later, you mentioned that Lance had met with this supposed FBI agent or whatever to get him off. and he was convinced by credentials and she says by credentials did he get a bet
Starting point is 01:07:27 did he see a badge and she says yeah he saw a badge okay boom give him the money got the money there's a dispute with estes
Starting point is 01:07:36 I'll try and start wrap I'll try and get really start cutting through it yeah there's a dispute with estes okay between Farsiona and Estes
Starting point is 01:07:42 Estes basically tries to back out I want my money back you're out of your fucking mind so they go back and forth back and forth Well, what happens is Estes ends up going to the police and ends up basically saying that he's considering. He finds out, because the other guy told the agents that he's working with a dirty FBI agent, it filters down to Barrero and Farsion that Estes has told somebody and they know he's dealing with it.
Starting point is 01:08:14 He just gave somebody 50 grand for a dirty agent. So fuck. So they say the deal's off. They get into a huge argument. Rossini puts it back together. He says, okay, now it's another $100,000. So give him $50. He's like, okay, so I think he gives him another $50.
Starting point is 01:08:29 And then he's going to give him the last $50. So there's a huge dispute where they have a meeting. And Rossini's at the meeting. Harrison's at the meeting. Farsion shows up. Farsion says, Harrison's saying, let's just kill this guy. Farchione says... Talking about who? Let's just kill him.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Talking about Estes. He's saying let's just kill him. Because he's now talking about testifying against... Farsion and Barrero. So he basically says, let's just kill him. And Rissini's trying to talk him out of it. He goes to Farsione. Farsione says, okay, kill him. If he doesn't bring the money, kill him. But don't kill him in San Francisco, because he lives in San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Kill him here. Because Harrison's talking about going to San Francisco, going to his house, killing him and killing his girlfriend if she's there. Rusini's saying, because Rusini's like, what if his girlfriend's there? And he's, well, she has to die too. He's like, nah, nah, no, no. Bring him up here. If he doesn't have the money, kill him.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Because if he didn't bring the cash, kill him. Okay, fine, no problem. So he flies up. He shows up. He flies down from San Francisco to L.A. Yeah, from San Francisco to L.A. They're all going to meet. He's supposed to bring the money.
Starting point is 01:09:47 He says he's got the money. Pete thinks he's got the money. Rusini thinks he's got the money. Rusini says he's got the money. Everything's going to be okay. He's going to give him the money. It's good. He gets there. They pick him up. Wayne picks him up. They walk inside. Everything seems like it's going to be okay. He walks into the kitchen. Wayne pulls a pistol out and shoots him in the back of the head. Boom. Estes is dead. Estes is dead. Now right before they killed him, wasn't there something about 86? Code word 86. They send a code back. So they page, like the guys in the house, get pages saying 86-86 on their pagers, which, you know, to 86 to kill him. Get rid of. So, so the one guy goes and starts up the motorcycle, starts revving the motorcycle.
Starting point is 01:10:34 So nobody's going to hear the. So when they were, why did they send the 86? They realized he didn't have the $50,000 in cash. He's got a cashier's check. He brings a fucking cashier's check. But they didn't see, they didn't see cash. So they figured he doesn't have the money, so let's kill him. No, they see a cashier's check.
Starting point is 01:10:49 But they need cash. But they didn't find the cashier's check until after he was dead, right? No, he tells him in the car. Oh, he does. Okay, okay. I thought I was only after he was dead. No, right then he knows. Harrison knows, okay, well, he's got to die.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Yeah. We got to kill him. So that's when he pages these guys 86. I'm coming and we're going to kill him. Well, Pete actually goes in the garage. I actually have a report from one guy who says, after they got the 86s that Pete went and hid in the garage
Starting point is 01:11:17 you know so he's kind of like making fun of them so anyway he ends up shooting him in the head in the back of the head spinning over to like I don't know
Starting point is 01:11:28 get something at the refrigerator or something that I think Pete said and he shot him in the back of the head so they wrap them up in the sleeping bag keep in mind they Farshione said don't let them find the body don't let them find the body
Starting point is 01:11:41 get the 50 grand don't let it and if they kill them You know, if it doesn't have it, then kill them and don't kill them in San Francisco and don't let him anybody find the body. Because it works out pretty good if they don't find the body. Then he could just be anybody. He could have taken off. Right. We don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:55 So, yeah, they wrap him up. They throw him in a dumpster. And a homeless guy finds him like the next day or something. And so now the detectives come in. And, you know, there's a huge difference between a regular cop and a detective. So a homicide detective is the elite. You know, they're methodical. You know, you might want...
Starting point is 01:12:21 They're trying to solve the murder for real. And nothing else matters. Right. So they don't care who it is. I don't care if you sell drugs. I don't care if you're a credit card count. I'm not going to fucking bust you for any of that. That means nothing.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Right. Everybody gets a pass when it comes to murder. Just help me. So they come in. This is the estimate of murder. Okay, Lance Estes was arrested. So this is, remember, Lance was arrested, he agreed to cooperate. Okay, remember we talked about that?
Starting point is 01:12:52 So remember Lance, this is his being arrested and then the government saying, Estes, Estes saying he was arrested, you got arrested and he was going to cooperate. This is Michael Estes who talks about how, that's his brother? This is his brother. Okay. who also talks about him being arrested and him he was dealing with the guy he was dealing with someone named blum he was dealing with an agent who was dealing with blum blum's the other guy i told you he's above berrero right he's another guy like barrero in a different jurisdiction okay so another fbii agent who's giving information supposedly right i mean based on all this stuff so he ends up getting killed his body's disposed of it's it's uh it's over he's gone so what are we got here I got a bunch of documents. They're just kind of random. I'll just go through them real quick.
Starting point is 01:13:44 So eventually, Pete ends up getting busted. He gets arrested for something stupid. And before they can get him out of jail, before Farsione and Barrera can get him out of jail, he gets ID'd, and Agent Alapa flies in from Hawaii and tries to interview him. And so she tries to interview him, and he said,
Starting point is 01:14:08 Rustini states, you know, to the agent Alapa, that he had nothing to say to her. He wasn't going to speak to the government. You know, he wanted, uh, he was certain that Farsianne was going to take care of it. He was 100% sure. Keep in mind, they show up. First, if you're smart and you're guilty and you're looking at a lot of time, you better cooperate. You're not beating this in trial. Yeah. Not with these kind of numbers, not with these kinds of people, not with this amount of people.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Everybody around them is getting busted. Yeah. He's been indicted in multiple jurisdictions. You're just done. You better expect to fucking either die in prison or come out when you're in your 60s. Or you cooperate. He tells him, he tells her basically, kiss my ass, I'm good. Because he knows.
Starting point is 01:14:53 He's got to get that junk. He's got all them guys. Well, boys are going to get me out. Right. They always do. It costs me 100 grand. I'm sitting on millions in cash. I'm good.
Starting point is 01:15:00 I'm good. So a lot of time goes by. Kick rocks, lady. Yeah. Some time goes by. And he's getting phone. calls from Reza. He's getting calls from Aria. He's talking to guys on the phone. I don't know if it's Aria. He was talking to. Was it Reza? He's talking to people on the phone. People are answering his phone calls. And everybody's telling him, hang tight. They're working on it. They're working on it. Well, eventually, he comes to, he gets a new attorney comes in. He tells the attorney what's going on. So he's like, just hold it off. I'm going to get this whole thing quash. The new attorney's like, are you fucking crazy? Yeah. What are you? He says, he says, he tells the attorney, he tells the attorney what's going to? He tells the attorney, what he's going to? He's going to get this whole thing quash. The new attorney's like, are you fucking crazy? Yeah. What do you mean you got dirty agents?
Starting point is 01:15:39 He's, let me go tell the U.S. attorney. He's like, no, no, no, they're going to get this whole thing quashed. I mean, they've got me knocked out of jail. They had me released a couple of times now. I'm good. They have my buddy, like, oh, I'm good. They're like, you're fucking crazy. Well, weeks and weeks and weeks and months go by.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Fuck. And he starts to realize, oh, fuck, I'm done. Yeah. So he says, so finally he comes to the conclusion, okay, I got a real problem here. nobody is answering his phone anymore, by the way. They stop answering his phone. So when everybody stops answering your phone, he gets a little desperate.
Starting point is 01:16:13 So he gets a little flipped out, and he's like, fuck, he realizes he's done. People, other guys are getting busted. Guys are coming in the prison in there. So he says, okay, fuck it. And he contacts his attorney, he says, okay, I'll cooperate. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:31 I can cooperate against some dirty FBI agents. well, they come in and they say, no, we're not, we're not an issue. You can plead to a life sentence. And that's it. He said, and then we'll talk about it. He's like, oh, you're crazy. What happens is it filters down through all the U.S. attorneys and everything to Barrero and Farschione.
Starting point is 01:16:53 And Farsion finds out, and Barrera find out that he's talking about cooperating against dirty law enforcement. So Farsion calls everybody together. He calls, you know, the guys that I'm trying not to use too many of you, it's called, Everybody. Everybody. Me, chum, he calls this guy. He calls that guy. So, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:17:09 He calls everybody together, and they all meet Harrison. They all meet. Everybody involved. Nason? Even Nason, who killed Ellenberger. Killed Ellenberger. Harrison killed Estes. Nason killed Ellenberger.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Calls everybody together. The whole crew. Family powwow. Right. All right. This is John Alonzo talking about how, well, wait, you know what? Is it better? It's better like this because this is the one.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Okay. He meets at his girlfriend's house, right? His girlfriend's name is Odalis Melendez. So everybody meets there. She's in her bedroom while these guys are all meeting. There are several meetings, but there's one meeting particular she talks about, where she talks about how everybody got together. She knows everybody, except for this one guy named John something,
Starting point is 01:18:04 another friend of Rusini's in L.A. She says he's from, he's from, he's from Beverly Hills. Well, Pete says that's got to be Aria. The only guy he knew that was a friend that lived in that area. So he's like, he probably came and just said his name is John. But he's assuming that's Aria. It's all right. L.A. near Beverly Hills, you know, Ari.
Starting point is 01:18:26 So, and this is Alonzo. So she's got, she names all these guys and she can hear them discussing Rucini. She hears them talking about Rucini. So they're talking about like, well, how do you think Rucini killed these guys? Keep in mind the two guys that actually killed him are in the room.
Starting point is 01:18:45 So she's not quite hearing. She's hearing bits and pieces. Well, when they leave there, by the way, one of the people that shows up, I told you, is Farsione. Farsion shows up. He has his little meeting. And in the meeting, and this is exhibit 50.
Starting point is 01:19:01 By the end of that meeting, everybody has agreed that Rusini committed the murders. He killed both guys. So Farsione goes in and says there are homicide detectives investigating. They're wanting to talk to people. They're going to be talking to you guys. They're going to find you. They're going to talk to you.
Starting point is 01:19:24 When they do, you just need to tell them Rusini. You don't have to tell them that you necessarily saw it. But Rusini or you heard or whatever. We need to point to Rossini. He's right now trying to get up. fucked up. We get fucked up. I guarantee you, you guys are all getting life sentences. Yeah. Keep on, they still think he's an FBI agent.
Starting point is 01:19:44 So, we're telling you right now Rusini shot him. That's what happened. He shot him. He shot him, disposed the body. He shot him, dispose of the body. That's what you're going to go with. They said, okay, cool. So everybody says, okay. So immediately, when these guys get interviewed, they immediately all start saying
Starting point is 01:20:03 that keep mind, Pete didn't have a gun. Pete said, I'm there happy. He goes, he's, I had a gun one time. He's like, it was like a, you know, you see, like you'm saying, he's like, he's not a gun guy. Right, yeah, yeah. He is at that level dealing with those guys. You don't really bring guns.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Yeah. When you show it with 50 kilos of ice or something, you don't bring a gun because you're just in that much more trouble. You're probably already dead. It's usually, you're dealing with, you don't, if you don't deal with people that you need to bring a gun. Right. So, anyway, this guy talks about how he heard, he heard rumors that Pete killed him, that Pete, the guy owed him money. So Pete killed him. What kind of gun did Pete had? Did Pete have a gun? Yeah, yeah. Pete had a gun. Pete had a nine millimeter. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay. So he talks about that. This is, this is one guy. This is Alonzo says that.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Let's see. This is, this is, so then eventually, and I'm going to fast forward this because, oh yeah, so this guy, Odessa, Melinda, she says again that Harrison said that he had, he had dealt with the cleanup of the body. He admits that he cleaned up, but he says, Rucini killed him. Like, why, and at what point did they go to law enforcement and say that Pete killed these people? They didn't go. They know that law enforcement's showing up. At some point, homicide attacks if they're leaving cards on your, you come home one day,
Starting point is 01:21:27 they're sitting outside your house. They start getting picked up. Mainly about Estes. Right, about Estes. Ellenberger's, you know. No one knew what happened to Ellenberger. Right. Well, they kind of know, but they don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:37 It's just rumors. They found the body of Estes, so that's... So this guy here says, he says that Ellenberger, they called Ellenberger Beetle, by the way. So he says, you know, Beatle in Beatles room. He says that he, after, you know, Pete killed him,
Starting point is 01:21:53 he saw the blood stains. There was no blood stains. He had his neck broken. Right. So there was a huge pool of blood from the gunshot wound that didn't actually happen. So, okay, so all these guys start losing, start failing polygraphs, by the way.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Yeah, so. The story's falling apart. Right. Harrison, Harrison, who shot Estes, says that, you know, that Pete did it. Pete did it, gunshot wound, you know, in the head. This is a footnote, is that 70, 87 and 70, talk about it. So, I mean, see, the thing is, is that I, like, I could go. fucking on and on and on.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Anyway, so eventually what happens is Nason, did I mention two? Remember how I told you Nason gave several stories? Yeah. And this is where potentially ARIA shows up because what happens is
Starting point is 01:22:51 Nason says that Aria gave him $30,000 and Nason like leaves town. It gets caught in Florida somewhere. I was getting caught in Florida. So it's a place to go. So I left Florida. So,
Starting point is 01:23:04 So he says that Aria gave him $30,000. This is like the day after he killed Ellenberger. So he gets $30,000. Well, one of the things he also does is when he takes off, he starts telling, he meets a bunch of girls, several girls. There's three of them. I only printed out two of these. He tells the girls that are like, oh, so what do you do for a living?
Starting point is 01:23:33 he tells him, I'm a hitman. I kill people. Are you kill people? Keep my, he's like 20, 22 years old. He's just this fucking idiot. So he's bragging about being a hitman. These are, this is these girls saying that someone gave him 30, that Nason told her
Starting point is 01:23:50 he killed someone for $30,000. This one here, she doesn't say, I don't think she says how much that he got, but did say when she said, what are you doing for a limit? He joked about being a hit man. How are you making money? He said, I'm killing people.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Ellenberger. Fucking douchebag. So, yeah, she says here, too, he was paid to commit a murder. So he's telling people, he's killing people. Now, he later says, he also told, but Pete said he, the only thing he ever told me, Pete says is that they got into an argument and he choked him out and he ended up breaking his neck. Pete had no clue he was paid to do it. Yeah, Pete, Pete's like, I didn't find out later till stuff's like. starts coming out that people are saying he's telling him he killed the guy because i didn't know
Starting point is 01:24:38 that aria gave him 30,000 i didn't know he told these girls that he got paid 30,000 to kill him yeah he says i didn't know any of that because i found that out later just as people are filing motions and things here's the thing also keep my Pete's in prison now thinking i'm really in a bad spot yeah government doesn't want to work with me everybody's no one's bailing him out nobody's bailing me out. Nobody's answering my phone calls. Guys that I know are getting arrested and showing up here in the jail with me. That are on the conspiracies with me.
Starting point is 01:25:08 We're all staring at each other who's going to cooperate. Everybody's saying the same thing. Oh, I'm fucked out. I'm staying strong, bro. Fuck them. Yeah. Everybody's singing them. Yeah, you see your lawyer a lot. Yeah. You know, for a guy who's, you keep going and leaving for you're to see your lawyer. So eventually what ends up happening
Starting point is 01:25:26 is this. Ultimately, Nathan ends up filing some paperwork. And in the paperwork, Pete gets the paperwork. You have to understand when you, you know, the cases are long, so you learn things slowly. People aren't talking each other. But as you can, if I can read your paperwork, it helps give insight into what happened in my case.
Starting point is 01:25:43 So, Nason eventually files paperwork where he explains, he explains about getting paid $30,000 from ARIA. He says for a drug transaction, Pete says that's not possible because we were the ones who were supplying all the drugs. I would know if he was selling drugs. but whatever.
Starting point is 01:26:01 The other thing is he says that he was called to a meeting at Wayne Harris' girlfriend's house named O'Dales-Melendez, and that there was a whole bunch of people there, and he names them off, you know, John Alonzo, this guy, Dean Zurich or something, George Merzik, Mark Farsion was there, Wayne Harrison, a bunch of guys were there, and that he says specifically, Farshion said that Rucini was cooperating.
Starting point is 01:26:34 He was an ungrateful bastard, I think, somewhere they say this, and that they need to put the murders off on him. And Nason came there with three of his cousins. He shows up with his three cousins. So they're all there while this discussion's going on. And Mark Farshion tells them that they have to put everything off on Rucini. Rucini killed him. Rucini shot him in the head.
Starting point is 01:27:00 head, blah, blah, blah, tells them all, same thing that Melinda says, same thing other guys say, there was multiple meetings, and Nason gets so upset about it, he doesn't like the idea of frame. Remember, he didn't like the cooperation thing either.
Starting point is 01:27:15 He didn't like Ellenberger was cooperating. Yeah. He doesn't like the fact that now these guys are saying, we're going to put it off on Rucini, when he knows Rucini didn't do it. Right. But they're saying, look, you too, though, that gives you off.
Starting point is 01:27:25 This guy's too honest. Like, he is, yeah. He's the kind of guy that is. He's the opposite of a shrinker. Yeah, he's. He's the kind of guy that ends up doing 25 years for being so honest. So John Ellenberger, FBI, Farshion, grand jury, blah, blah. So in this is when he talked, in his 2255, he talks about how he was brought in and told this,
Starting point is 01:27:45 and he didn't like the idea of it at all. And so he takes his $30,000 and he takes off. When he takes off, that's, you know, he takes off, he eventually gets caught. Well, so this is him saying, so we've got multiple people. There's also several other people say these meetings that occurred, that all these guys got together, and they all decided Rossini did it. He shot him.
Starting point is 01:28:07 So that goes on and on. This is a copy of his three cousins who were there. Scott, Scott, and Armadio. And they all give affidavits, which say the same thing that they were at the meeting. Who's three cousins? Nason's three cousins were there. And they say they were at the meeting
Starting point is 01:28:28 with all of this group of guys and they were discussing their legal strategies and what was happening and that they and about some guy who had basically killed somebody and that he had shot them all. So, you know, they don't really quite know what's going on. Just we were there. This is what happened. The FBI agent was there. By the way, this is when Robert Mueller comes into the picture. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:46 So Mueller, the, there was something called there was a supertcha prong. There was this guy that ends up, there's a whole thing about dirty agents in this office. So Mueller comes in to kind of clean up the office. They, the Department of Justice says, look, Mueller, we're going to send you over there to clean it up. So Mueller comes in, he fires a bunch of people. Now, meanwhile, yeah, because there's multiple cases like this going on where there's dirty agents. Throughout the whole United States, but even in this area, in his jurisdiction. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:19 But there's in, they're in New York. They're in Whitey Bulger is happening at this time. Okay. Whitey Bulger's bribing an FBI agent, I think Agent Connolly or something like that. So, you know, this is happening in multiple jurisdictions, the Department of Justice. And this is during Mueller's reign. The whole Whitey Bulger thing is during, is. That's also during, that was all investigated by Mueller. Mueller was the, one of the assistant U.S. attorneys or one of the, he was, he was in charge of the task force, one of the task force that was investigating.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Okay. So he was involved in that, but, you know, he's way up here. and he just happened to be one of the many guys in the chain. I don't think he necessarily had anything super to do with it. There were allegations, but who knows? Right. Listen, I can only solve one thing at a time. So what ends up happening is...
Starting point is 01:30:07 Let's eat this elephant one spoon at a time. One spoonful at a time. So this guy... Okay, so this is a document where Mueller comes in and they start asking for evidence. So now they've arrested Harrison. They've arrested Wayne Harrison, the guy who killed Estes. And they've arrested Frank Nason.
Starting point is 01:30:35 So Nason's been arrested. Harrison's been arrested. They're kind of joining forces. And they're saying, look, they're going with what's called a public authority defense, wherein they say, we thought we had authority. to do what we were doing. And initially, keep in mind, at this point, they failed their polygraph exams.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Everybody's failed. Some of these guys failed like three of them. Okay, if you go on the website, you'll see, I've got one after another. The story keeps changing, change. So they're like, no, so-and-so, Pete killed him. Okay. Then it's, okay, no, Pete didn't kill him.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Harrison killed him. I saw the blood. No, I didn't see the blood. No, he killed him, no, this. So they keep changing, change. Every time they fail it. Eventually, they come clean and basically, as clean as they can.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Harrison killed him, but it was Rossini who ordered it. Can't say the FBI. We can't say the FBI ordered it because that would be a major fucking problem for us. We've already been told. So it's somebody, and why would you say anybody ordered it?
Starting point is 01:31:38 Well, you have to say somebody because if I'm Harrison and I say, I killed him, well, why'd you kill him? Right. Somebody told me to kill him. Yeah. It's better for me to say that Danny told me do it because then I get to cooperate against Danny.
Starting point is 01:31:53 So you don't really want me because I wouldn't have killed him on my own. Danny did it. Right. You got a card to play. Right. So that's what happens is they all start pointing at Rusini. So this is the document where they start, they go over Farsione's role, they go over Barero's role, they start explaining. So if you read this, you start to realize very, very quickly that they're focusing in on and dirty law enforcement. And this is what,
Starting point is 01:32:23 this is what within weeks, and this exact time is when Mueller shows up. There's a huge article. There's a new sheriff in town. And Mueller's a new breed. Yeah. You can mind, he's young. He's younger then.
Starting point is 01:32:35 He's not young, young, but he's probably in his late 30s, early 40s probably. So he's coming in. He's going to clean up the office. No more of this fucking blame shifting and dirty agents. And he comes and he reads this, and it's another case about dirty agents. on a task force that we're over.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Fuck. So he comes in, he looks at it, and then he is putting together a case. So he goes to Rossini. Keep in mind, at this point, they've now focused in on Rossini. We've got all these people saying Rossini did it. They're all willing to testify. We got like eight guys ready to say Rossini did it in some form or fashion.
Starting point is 01:33:16 We're talking about this guy saw blood, this guy did this, this guy did that, this guy's got a gun. Everybody's saying he did it. Pete knows he's screwed. So bad it becomes a capital case. They actually have a small, like a little trial kind of thing. They go to Washington. Pete's attorneys go to Washington. They have a little trial to decide in front of, I think, Janet Reno,
Starting point is 01:33:37 to try and figure out, can we kill Pete if we find him guilty? Can we execute him? And they say, so Pete's lawyers lose that. And they say, yeah, yeah, if you can prove all this and he gets found guilty, he's going to be executed. So now you're on death row. You're one of the first people on death row. The other people that were on death row at that time,
Starting point is 01:33:57 other than Rusini, it's Rusini, it's the Unabomber, and it's Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber. So Ted Kaczynski, Timothy McVeigh, Pete Rossini.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Oh, my God. Didn't fucking do it. Didn't kill anybody. That's fucked. Wow. So what ends up happening is, and keep mind, all the evidence they explain is that
Starting point is 01:34:21 Pete killed him. He shot him with a gun. It would be different if you came. When he said, it was a conspiracy, you're saying, you're telling these people I shot him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:30 And he loses. He's going to get executed. So, okay, so he comes back, a number of circumstances grow, okay, so what happens is Mueller at this point,
Starting point is 01:34:41 Pete pleads guilty. They go to Pete and they say, listen, he's trying to get him to plead, like, to a life sentence, you know, first, and then they come back, And finally they go back and forth.
Starting point is 01:34:52 The lawyers go back and forth from Mueller back and forth. And what happens is Mueller says, look, here's what we'll do. Now Pete knows all these motherfuckers are ready to testify against me. And I didn't do this. Yeah. So I'm pissed. So that whole code thing, I'm ready to cut everybody's throat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:09 Right. So Mueller says, listen, here's what I want to do. Mueller knows this dirty FBI agents involved. But he comes in and says, look, here's what we'll do. We have Pete. We have Rusini plead guilty to 40 years, and I'll allow him to cooperate against these other guys, and we'll get his sentence cut significantly. Mueller says that. Mueller says that to Pete's attorney.
Starting point is 01:35:31 It takes a lot of convincing, but Pete's like, I don't have a prayer. My parents come in. They're like, look, what are you going to do? The guy, you know, come on, these guys are guilty or not, you're going to be found guilty. There's no doubt in anybody's mind. It's on you. Yeah. So Pete says, okay, goes to trial.
Starting point is 01:35:47 He pleads guilty to two counts. of conspiracy to commit murder and the furtherance of a drug conspiracy. So it's like a RICO case? Well, he wanted it to be RICO. Okay. But Mueller was insisting he had to plead guilty to the murders. You have to say you murdered.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Specific murder. It can't be conspiracy. It has to be straight up murder. No, no, no. Conspiracy to commit murder. Oh, okay. You have to say it was a conspiracy. You conspired to commit murder.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Okay, got it. So finally he says, okay, he wants to say, Rico, but now Mueller saying it has to be for the specific for murder. Keep mind, he knows if you say it's murder, now it's on your record, it's going to be hard for you to unwind that off. Yeah. So he
Starting point is 01:36:31 goes in and plus his lawyers are saying definitely you want to do two counts because the maximum they can give you 20 years apiece. So if they stack them, it's exactly 40 years. You don't want to say Rico because it could be even higher than that. So they're like, fuck. So he goes in and Pete says, okay, yeah, did you? Yes, I was paying off an informant.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Yes, I was paying off this guy. I was doing this. Did you? Yes, yes. And what are you charged with this? And what do you plead guilty to conspiracy to commit murder? Okay, boom. Bam, 40 years. He goes to Leavenworth.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Goes 11 worth a few months later. Mueller shows up with this guy Burroughs. Bruce Burroughs, right? So he shows up with it, which is the FBI. He's over like the FBI. He's like one of the top dogs of the FBI. He's over the whole task force. These guys are all working for him.
Starting point is 01:37:16 He knows them. They come in. They meet with Racine. any. Moller says, okay, these two guys are going to trial. I need you to, you said you testify. And he goes, okay, okay, yeah, I'll testify. He goes, okay, well, let's talk about this. So they sit down and he says, okay, so when did you, uh, did you shoot them?
Starting point is 01:37:33 He's like, no, I didn't, I didn't shoot him. So he didn't shoot him. He's like, okay, but you told him to shoot him, though, right? I didn't tell anybody to shoot anybody. What do you mean? He goes, you just pled guilty to conspiracy to commit. He's like, I pled guilty because you had like six or eight guys. that we're going to say I pled guilty.
Starting point is 01:37:50 It's like, you don't think I'm going to testify to that. He's like, well, what happened? So he explains what happened. Well, there was this dirty FBI agent. Mueller's been hearing this. You've seen how many people are saying it. Right. This dirty FBI agent.
Starting point is 01:38:05 There's this guy, Farrecheon. Now Pete now knows that the guy is not, at this point, Pete knows, okay, well, Farsione is not an FBI agent. He's actually an informant, professional informant. So he says, okay, I've got to take this out. That's hurting me. So he says, okay. No problem.
Starting point is 01:38:25 So he goes, okay, he talks to him, and he says, okay, so what happened? He said, I was paying him this, paying him that. He's like, what? They're both taking notes. Muller's taking notes. Burroughs is taking notes. Okay, so what happened? Okay, this, this.
Starting point is 01:38:36 He's like, well, when did you do this? When did you do it? So everything he's telling him, Pete's unraveling his entire case. As Pete thinks he's helping to cooperate and tell Mueller what really happened, he's actually destroying Mueller's case. Because Mueller had a very simple case. Right now it's all fucked up. These guys were informants.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Pete didn't like that. He was afraid they were going to inform on him. He told these guys to kill him. They both killed him. They got rid of the bodies. It's a pretty simple case. There's nothing to do with FBI agents. Mueller doesn't want it to have anything to do with FBI agents.
Starting point is 01:39:12 This guy's on the short list to become attorney general. Yeah. Okay? So he doesn't need this He doesn't need this shit storm That this would stir up This is another whitey bulger This is another
Starting point is 01:39:24 Shit, I forget the other guy's name Anyway, there's like a supercha prong This is another This is another huge dirty agents The whole thing blows up And his name's attached to it. He don't want that I'm here to clean this place up Yeah
Starting point is 01:39:40 So he says okay So he goes through the whole thing He starts explaining the whole thing This meeting takes place over three days days. Mueller actually leaves, goes back, comes back for two more days with Burroughs. They take notes, everything. Okay, he's telling him about dirty FBI agents. Tell him about the murder. Tell him about how it was ordered. Telling him that Mark Farsione is the one who said to do it. Not to do it in San Francisco. Do it here. Don't let him find the body. Got the $50,000. Tells him everything. So devastated Mueller's case. He then says to Mueller, or Mueller then at the end of it, Mueller says, According to Pete, he shows him. One, Pete gives him, he's like, yeah, but these guys haven't talked to you in this long, whatever. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:40:25 They say they haven't talked to you. Pulls out the fucking records and says, really? Because I talk to him here. I talked to him. Pete has all the fucking phone record, more phone records of all these phone calls between these guys. Barrero's page or Farceone's page or this day, this day. Right. Right after the murders.
Starting point is 01:40:40 Right after the murders. Way past the murders where these guys say they haven't talked to him in forever. So goes through the whole thing and then... Completely unraveled everything. It unravels everything. At some point, Mueller shows him a picture of Aria and asks him about Aria. And he's like, that's Aria. And he's like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:59 So he realizes at that point that, because by now he's heard a lot of this. He's now realizing he thinks that Mueller thinks that Aria killed, had Ellenberger killed. And Pete thinks is now, now thinks he had him killed. Because he finds out that Ellenberger's now living with, Ariya is now living with Ellenberger's ex-girlfriend, Jenny. So that's an issue. So he's now, so Mueller essentially,
Starting point is 01:41:32 Mueller now knows that the FBI informant, probably Barrero also, asked Harrison to kill, to kill, and that ARIA may very well have killed. Now keep in mind, I say that because it's kind of convoluted because you've got Nason saying multiple things. Pete saying, I never believed that.
Starting point is 01:42:01 Aria would have done that, but you've got the documents, $30,000. I don't know. It doesn't look good. You know, I'm a hard time saying, you know, you killed something. You know, I don't know. I know that the documents doesn't look good. So, you know, but Mueller, Pete said he definitely, Mueller was like, look, we've had our suspicions for a while.
Starting point is 01:42:22 We shows him the phone records, the phone calls from ARIA, all these, why is ARIA involved in this whole thing? Right. So that's what happens. So Mueller says, look, I'm bringing you back. I'm going to have you testify in front of the grand jury. We're going to indict these dirty FBI agents. I'm going to get your sentence reduced.
Starting point is 01:42:40 And he signs an agreement with people. Well, he gives Pete an agreement an ironclad. agreement that says he will reduce his sentence. Which never happens. Never happens. To no specific amount just says he's going to reduce it? Just says he's going to, well, you can't tell what the judge is good. Like, I can't tell you the judge's, I can, I could tell you I'm going to put in the motion.
Starting point is 01:43:00 I'm going to put in front of the judge, but I can't. It's still a judge's decision. Just could do six months. He could do 20 years. Right. We don't know. So he's like, I will put it in for sure. They don't do that because what if you get in front of, what if you get in front of a jury,
Starting point is 01:43:13 the first thing I'm going to say is, will you promised anything? Now he's got to say, yeah, I was promised. I was promised he would put in a motion to have my sentence reduced. Right. That don't look good. Yeah. You're just saying it just to get it reduced. Typically what they say is we will consider it, substantial assistance.
Starting point is 01:43:28 And they say, well, I'm hoping this, but they said that they weren't promising me and think, no, no, he's got a promise. Yeah. So, okay. So with that said, Mueller goes back with all the notes and they prepare a document called an FBI. 302. Okay, then this becomes important. You've read the book. You know why. Because basically they take all these notes and they created a 302, which is the official document, the official record for the FBI, which is supposed to be a clarification and condensed version of an interview. What's important? I just told you about dirty deaf FBI agents, told you about payoffs, told you I did not order the murder of anybody or conspired to murder anybody. Yeah. They craft the 302. Doesn't say a fucking thing about payoffs.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Doesn't say anything about dirty FBI agents. Doesn't say anything about him denying anything. So when you read the 302, it basically talks about drug transactions and talks about a murder, and it makes it sound almost like Pete might have been involved. It doesn't say he's like he ordered it, but it's close.
Starting point is 01:44:41 It makes it sound like he's part of it. part of it. So what happens is Mueller prepares a document, goes in to see Nathan and Harrison and he convinces them and, you know, I'm not going to agree with the whole thing, but it's a whole thing where he comes, he basically
Starting point is 01:44:57 goes in and says, look, I got a 302 here and gives him the 302 and tells them all, he's going to fucking testify against you. He's going to say that he did order the murders. These guys know he didn't order the murders. Yeah. So now he's flipping it on you. You go to there
Starting point is 01:45:13 and start talking about dirty FBI agents ordering murders. Rusini is going to say he ordered the murder. How is that going to look? Like you're lying. Yeah. And that's, you know, so that's what happens. So these guys end up taking a plea. They take a plea for 25 years
Starting point is 01:45:26 apiece. Knowing that that's that, because they're terrified that Rucini because. Who, that's Harrison and all those guys? Harrison and Harrison and Nason take a plea for 25 years for each murder. They both get 25 years. Because Mueller's telling them that
Starting point is 01:45:43 Rusini is going to testify against you, and he is going to say that he's a straight up lie. Straight up lie. Right. So Mueller's just playing them. Yeah. You're not allowed. And he's prepared a document that basically supports him. Right. It's exactly almost the opposite of what Pete said. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:57 So Pete, when these guys plead guilty. To what? Oh, to the murder. They plead guilty to the murder. Keep in mind, too, when Nason comes in, Nathan says it's his thing that Mueller, that he was told he had to plead guilty to the murder. And he says, of course, that, oh, and both of them say they plead guilty and they plead guilty that member of a conspiracy and that they'd been ordered to commit the murder
Starting point is 01:46:26 by Rossini. So now you've pled guilty. So then how does that make Rossini look? Rossini now these guys are now saying, you did order the murder. Right. Pete never said he ordered the murders. Yeah. Mueller just planted those seeds.
Starting point is 01:46:42 Yeah. Now it points back at you. Now you're done. What are you going to do? Oh, I didn't really? Because these guys just pled guilty saying that you did order them. And they played guilty to and got 25 years apiece. They did that because you said that you were going to cooperate and you were going to say it.
Starting point is 01:46:55 Truth is none of it. It's a whole circle jerk. And they walk into the whole thing. And so they're done. This all comes out later when Mason. Fucking Mueller is just like playing a puppet show. Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Damn, that's nasty. So, so Nathan later files. he files his 2255 where he specifically says that, you know, well, this is his plea where he says he choked him to death, too. Remember? So this is when Molo realizes, too. Rossini's the only one who's saying, choke to death, choke to death. He's saying everybody else is shot, shot, shot, shot, shot. When he finally gets him to plead guilty and he talks to Nason,
Starting point is 01:47:33 and Nason says, I choked him to death. Why has he decided to say that all of a sudden? Well, because he's pleading guilty anyway. He's like, I didn't shoot him. Well, how did you kill him? I mean, I killed him, how'd you kill him? I choked him to death. shit that lines up with fucking what russini said so now muller really knows russini
Starting point is 01:47:46 oh jesus this guy said is true that he was the truth but these fbi agents are dirty right everything is and he didn't order the murder right so but they plead guilty they get their 25 years based on muller's lie based on that yeah so i got that document here where he says where russini or sorry where uh nason actually says at at the direction of rassini you know that he killed him yeah at uh russini's direction so this is um circumstance
Starting point is 01:48:15 so he prepares a document where Mueller ends up preparing a document for these other guys to try and remember he's trying to convince them he prepares a document that he provides them where he specifically says that a number of circumstances
Starting point is 01:48:32 corroborate what Rusini told me there's lots of things that are exactly what he said is true so he's admitting in paperwork says Robert Mueller right on it Robert S. Muller the third. So he's got that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:48:48 Where did you get those documents from? Pete has all these. He just had them all? And you copied all of them? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I had a guy in Unicorn. It would be expensive to copy these since you don't make any money in prison.
Starting point is 01:49:00 So what you do is you get somebody in Unicorn, somebody who works in the factory, and you give him commissary. And then he sneaks the documents in his shirt every day. He'll bring in like 50 at a time. Keep my wife, 750 fucking documents. So he goes in with a 200 documents strapped to him like he's a fucking drug courier. Jesus. Goes in, makes the copies, then puts them in the back, and then he brings them back. And then you give him like a bag of $3 bag of coffee.
Starting point is 01:49:24 Some ramen noodles. Yeah. So that's how you got off it. For like $100 worth of copies, I end up getting for like $10. That's amazing. Oh, it takes some time. You have to be creative. Nobody's helping you.
Starting point is 01:49:37 No help. You're a magician, man. That's a story in itself, really. Yeah. These guys are, you know, this is another thing. The guy who did it, this is another guy I wrote a fucking story for him. No. Yeah, he was the clerk in unicorn.
Starting point is 01:49:51 It's a fucking great story. He's a fucking young kid. He was like a drug courier and money's fucking moved. It's a great story. You could probably interview him. He lives in Orlando. Does he really? Oh, that would be cool.
Starting point is 01:50:06 Let's get him in here. Smart, good looking kid, smart, young. He was young as hell when he lives in Orlando. he was doing it. I mean, he moved to he's an American. He, well, he's Mexican, but he looks like an Anglo. But does he have a degree in fine arts? There's no fine arts degree. It doesn't mean
Starting point is 01:50:20 that he's not created. He actually moved to Acapoco. I mean, what America, would you move to Acococo and deal drugs? I'm going to move to Acapoco and arrange fucking shipments of drugs and all. I mean, this is a kid, this balls. Yeah. Ball. I mean, that takes a lot. Well, thanks
Starting point is 01:50:36 to him, we have all this fucking evidence. Yeah, appreciate it, buddy. Thank you. Okay. So, okay, so, Nason, once again, amendment motion to vacate judgment. So he's trying to, you know,
Starting point is 01:50:49 here's where Nason says, like when I said how he kind of bamboozled them into pleading guilty. Here's where he says, some of him claims the government, that was Mueller, because Moller was the government at that time. He was the U.S.
Starting point is 01:51:00 The government tricked Nason into pleading guilty to the intentionally killing, killing of John Ellenberger. As a result, Nason pled guilty, but it goes on. on here to say where he says
Starting point is 01:51:12 co-defendant Rusini would testify. He talks about how he says he was going to testify. Turns out, Nathan then goes there and says, turns out that was exactly not what he was going to say. That Rusini was not going to testify that he had ordered the murder.
Starting point is 01:51:26 Wow. Okay. So this is, oh yeah, yeah. San Francisco does an about face. This is an article about Mueller. San Francisco office does about face under
Starting point is 01:51:38 tough U.S. attorney. That's Mueller. What is it? What is it a about face? It means turn around. They did a turn around. He turned around because they remember it was all corrupt and fucked up. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:49 So Mueller turned them around. Okay. And then guess what? Clean the office up. Clean the office up. He got these guys to plead guilty. Got that fucking guy, Rusini. He's never kidding out.
Starting point is 01:51:59 These two guys got 25 years. He completely suppressed anything about dirty FBI agents, although there wasn't an investigation in the state into the agents. And guess what? Both of all, Barrero and Blum, the guys who were giving, probably Blum, like I said, don't know for sure,
Starting point is 01:52:19 but for sure, Barero, the guys that are giving all the, all the information out, they both took early stress retirement. So they both retired. They retire because. Barrero and Plum, both. Blum.
Starting point is 01:52:34 Both of them retired. And the reason they take stress disability retirement is that as an agent, if you retire, you can be called to testify and you can't say, I'm not going to testify. You have to testify. As if you take a stress disability retirement, you then can plead the fifth and say, I'm not going to retire. Holy shit. So if you do get me into a jam, I'm sorry, not retire.
Starting point is 01:52:59 I'm not going to answer. You can then say, I'm not going to answer. As you go stress disability retirement, I can't, I'm under stress, I'm fucked up. Because that's the weakest link right there. Right. Those guys can plead the fifth and they're. You can't force me to talk about this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:13 So, okay. Mueller doesn't, he gets. Mueller smart. Mueller doesn't end up getting, he doesn't become, uh, he doesn't become the, um, attorney general like he was hoping, right? Bush wins the election. Mueller, uh, Ashcroft gets named attorney general. He gets like the supporting role to attorney general.
Starting point is 01:53:36 And then very, within a few months or something like that, he, Mueller gets appointed to or nominated to be the FBI director. And I only bring this up because I believe that Mueller shifted the blame from the FBI to Resini, right? I believe he shifted that blame. I believe he covered up. I think he didn't start the conspiracy, right? Mueller didn't start the conspiracy. The FBI Blom Barrero and Farshion started the conspiracy.
Starting point is 01:54:05 They got the guy murdered. They ended up getting everybody together to frame Rusini. They did that. But Mueller ran with the ball. He didn't turn around and do what he said. He didn't indict these guys. He just kept it going because it was in his best, in his interest. Why do you think he really did that, though?
Starting point is 01:54:20 Do you think it was somebody above him that was pressuring him? Or do you think that was all in just personal career? Yeah, it wanted to look good. I want to look. How bad is it going to look? Look, I'm going about my job. The moment I start saying dirty FBI agents, people lose their job. left and right. These guys are retiring left and right.
Starting point is 01:54:38 All these guys that were involved in in Bulger's case and Salimmy and all of these cases. It doesn't look good. These guys are immediately So it's going to be a domino effect. Right. Yeah, okay. Cannot be involved in that. I'm about to be named attorney general. Right. So he wrapped it up and didn't have to say anything about dirty agents. These guys got 25 years. They did commit the murder. They got 25 years. This guy Rossini,
Starting point is 01:55:00 they're going to reduce his sentence. Who knows by how much. You know, so he's kind of, you know, I'm sure he justified it very easily. These are bad guys. They're drug dealers. Fuck them. They're not a U.S. attorney. This is a top shelf guy. So here's where he does.
Starting point is 01:55:16 At his nomination, the nomination of Robert Mueller, I just love this quote. I just have to read this quote. Yeah, read it for us. This is a quote. One of the senators says, do you believe there is a cultural,
Starting point is 01:55:27 a culture problem within the Bureau, the federal Bureau? He says, I think it is, and so they're talking about all of these problems that Bureau has. So Mueller's answer is, I think it is absolutely unacceptable to try to cover up and not disclose something that needs to be disclosed. And more importantly, or as importantly, it's unacceptable to try to shift blame to someone else. Wow.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Which is exactly what he just did. Exactly what you just fucking did. And when he puts his kind of like his resume, like all the things I've done, his last case, This one of his only homicide cases he's ever worked on and a death penalty case Probably the only death penalty case he worked on he's he uses russini's case he says I handled with others the prosecution of three individuals For the killing of two persons whom they believed were cooperating with the federal narcotics investigation So he actually uses Pete's case as part of his resume part of his resume and where is this resume it's one of the things you see submit to the committee.
Starting point is 01:56:37 Listen, there's like 150 pages of his. Okay. He was taught. You know, he was nominated unanimous. Everybody loves Mueller. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:46 Holy shit. No, I'm sure. He's not a big fan. He's pretty pissed off right about it. He's upset. You know, and in general, honestly, the only thing that bothers me, because if you look at Mueller's resume,
Starting point is 01:56:58 look, these guys all have problems. He's been involved in a couple of skirmishes before. There's some, he's got mud on his face. There's a BCCI investigation. there was this big bank that went under. He never really did the investigation because he knew that the CIA
Starting point is 01:57:10 was laundering money and he knew some stuff was going on, so he never really follows it through. That's a bad thing. There's a couple little things, but he's always willing to take a hit for the government. Yeah. Keep in mind, this is the guy.
Starting point is 01:57:23 They love that. Yeah. That's how you become FBI director. So one of the things he did, you know, first of all, and started young, this guy, he did, he volunteered for Vietnam. fucking thousands of kids every month are coming home in body bags. This guy graduates high school and volunteers. And he knew.
Starting point is 01:57:43 He was in the Marine Corps, right? He was, he was a... Was he Marine? When I read on Wikipedia, it said that he was like an officer in the Marine Corps. I think he was in the Marines. So, look, I'm saying, I'm not volunteering. Right. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:58:00 He had, one of his good friends fucking came home in a body bag. You know, look, look. I think he fucked up. I think he's ambitious. I think he justified it. I think he made some mistakes. I think everybody makes mistakes. I don't have a problem fucking up.
Starting point is 01:58:16 I fuck up all the time. I deal with fuck ups all the time. I love guys that fuck up. I love complete idiots who fuck up. But what bothers me is when you can't fucking own up to it. The first thing you do, when I get caught doing something, I do stupid shit all the time.
Starting point is 01:58:34 Don't keep denying it. Just go, fuck, all right, I fucked up. Here's what I did. Boom, boom, boom. Sorry, my bad. I apologize. I can make it right. I can fix it.
Starting point is 01:58:42 Let's fix this. But don't keep denying. That's what irritates me. And that's what he does. He just keeps covering it up. Why wouldn't you cut this fucking guy loose? Right. You've got your fucking director of the FBI.
Starting point is 01:58:57 You could stroke a pin and they'd cut him loose. Right. But wouldn't that just unravel a whole slew of other shit? He's worried about him coming out and saying a bunch of shit. Maybe, but you have to see the, look, let me keep going. If he lets him out, like, I feel like Mueller has so much to lose. And keep in mind, too, with Pete being in prison, keep in mind, I can't, you can't necessarily talk to a reporter.
Starting point is 01:59:22 Like, I had carte blanche to do what I wanted in there because I wasn't doing it. I was writing nice stories, and everybody thought it was cute and funny. Look at little cocks running around. Little Mac Cox. A little Mac Cox. He's writing his little stories. They don't, you know, they're harmless. He's not bothering money.
Starting point is 01:59:38 I wasn't out there trying to solve murders and stuff. I mean, stuff fell in my lap. Yeah. But it wasn't like I was causing any trouble. And I was keeping everybody entertained and they're all happy. You know, but if Pete said, I want to talk to 2020 and 2020 showed up, they have to go through the public information officer. People get notified. So you can keep an eye on this guy while he's in prison.
Starting point is 02:00:00 You can shut him down while he's in prison. You have to allow him to do anything while he's in prison. You're not just, there's no internet. You're going, everything's being filtered, in and out, in and out. You're not getting away with shit. So he's got him in a box. So it's a nice place to have somebody who's got some dirt on you. Okay, this is one of the things I love.
Starting point is 02:00:23 So after Mueller disappears, right, they assign a new guy. They see him this guy, David Hall. So, David Hall. So Rusini puts in a, emotion immediately saying, hey, it's been fucking months and months and months. Moller's a goddamn he's just turned FBI. Nobody's talking to me. What's
Starting point is 02:00:38 going on? He puts an emotion to compel them to reduce his sentence. I'm done. So he says So they respond by saying, so Hall's response to Rossini's, hey, I have an agreement with these guys. Of course, there's nothing in the file. And what he's saying
Starting point is 02:00:55 is I have a guaranteed agreement. So Hall looked at that and said, we don't give guaranteed agreements. So he's lying. he writes, even puts, at no time was the defendant promised any deal or reduced sentence by the government officials interviewing him. Huh, he's got to be so pissed off when he reads that. But he's got proof. He has his copy of the agreement. Pete fucking's like, what the fuck? Oh, that's all hell no.
Starting point is 02:01:19 So he doesn't, he doesn't even file it nothing. He mails it straight to the judge. He mails it straight to the judge. The judge who just read that gets this from Mueller stating that, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the government, this is after you agree to cooperate, you know. The government in turn agrees to file a motion under Rule 35 for a federal rule of criminal procedure, setting forth the extent and significance of your cooperation. Such a motion will be filed at the conclusion of your cooperation.
Starting point is 02:01:52 He's done, he's done. You understand that the government's motion will set forth extended, so it goes on it. So it's a guarantee. I guarantee. He doesn't say substandardly, you know, well, consider, no, no. So he sends this to the judge, and the judge is like, oh, hell no, bring him back.
Starting point is 02:02:08 So he'd bring him back. Pete goes in front of the judge. Everybody goes in front of the judge. Then Mr. Hall gets up, and he says, he gets in front of the judge, and they say, and the judge says,
Starting point is 02:02:19 I said, I wouldn't read all this stuff. So she says, are you denying? Because it's Exhibit B. That's what this is. Yeah. She goes, are you denying that this, that there's, that there's an,
Starting point is 02:02:29 agreement? He says, no, you're not at this time. I'm not again. I'm not denying it now. But then he says, but he says he doesn't deserve anything because he pled guilty to conspiring to commit murder,
Starting point is 02:02:45 but then when he went in front of Mueller, he denied it. So he's saying he denied it to Mueller. So we don't have to agree because he denied it. He pled guilty to doing it, and now he's, so he's lying. One of those two things he's lying. So he's admitting that Rusini told Mueller
Starting point is 02:03:02 he didn't commit the murders. Okay. So, this is, now, they immediately turn around and they start saying, Rucini starts requesting documents. Like, I want all the fucking notes. I want the 302.
Starting point is 02:03:16 I want everything. So they come back, and Wilson Leone, which is another one, keep mind, these guys got five attorneys working on his shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:25 He's got like him. Yeah. And like, maybe his parents like leverage their house and get him one attorney. So how are you fighting that? How are you fighting that? Okay. So Amadeo helping him at all or no? No, Amadeo isn't around then.
Starting point is 02:03:37 Okay. This is way... This is back in 2000 and like... This is 2010. Okay. So he ends up, they come back and they say, they come back and they say, yeah, we don't have any file. We don't have any records. We don't have any notes. All the notes were purged. And this is, that's what it says here. It says, uh, uh, basically this guy is, it's a declaration saying that had no other documents or records related to the case, that they have
Starting point is 02:04:02 everything, that's it. This is a declaration. This is them telling the government, the court, hey, nothing else to give them. Fuck them. That's it. Okay, fine. So then there's a, then they go. So then Bruce Burroughs, remember Burroughs who went and took the notes? The guy who actually was taking
Starting point is 02:04:18 the notes. Right. Burroughs comes, and so they investigate, have Burroughs come back. So he comes back. And this is just to clarify it. These notes are when Burroughs and Mueller went to the penitentiary for three days to meet with
Starting point is 02:04:34 Rusini. Yes. Right. Right. Now Mueller's notes we never find. They're gone. Mueller's pretty sharp. Sure. I mean, we don't keep around evidence that can Yeah. Yeah. So this, so
Starting point is 02:04:47 keep in mind, so they talk to Burroughs. This is his transcript, right? So Burroughs, Bruce Burroughs gets on a thing. They say records be clear this is in reference to the three the three meetings with Mr.
Starting point is 02:05:03 Mueller, blah, blah, blah. Then they asked, basically, did corruption at all come up with Rossini? He says, no. Did he ever mention anything about corruption? No. I don't say anything about corruption.
Starting point is 02:05:21 No corruption? No corruption. Did he ever, did he ever disclaim any expressly disclaim any involvement in Ellenberger's murder? No. Did he ever expressly disclaim involvement in Estes' murder?
Starting point is 02:05:38 No. Okay. So, did he ever in any way disclaim there was a concocted conspiracy to frame him? No. Who's saying this? This is Burroughs is saying, he took all these notes and he's saying he never mentioned a conspiracy.
Starting point is 02:05:53 No. Pete's like, the fuck! Yeah, what the fuck? Were you able to confirm allegations of corruption? No. You know why? Because they never looked into it.
Starting point is 02:06:05 Yeah. So if I say this guy's corrupt and I got five people that will say they were there when he brought the money, you got to go talk to them. You can check the records from the hotel. You can check everything. If you're a Mueller, you don't follow that up. Right, you don't want to. And there's a paper trail. I got my murderers.
Starting point is 02:06:23 I'm not following leads that point to the FBI committee. being involved. I can't follow that. Oh, no. We don't even look into that. So they start talking about the, so this is Pete's lawyer, starts talking about the 302 that was created
Starting point is 02:06:40 and how it's not quite accurate and is it exact and how did you create it? Because, you know, I'm not sure. My client says it's not accurate. And he says, yeah, I did. He said, did you take notes? He goes, yeah, I took notes. I do you have, you know where the notes are?
Starting point is 02:06:54 He said, did Mueller take notes? I don't know if Mueller took notes. Okay. you did take, yeah, yeah, I believe, I believe I did. Okay, do you have the notes? I do not. Where are they now? They should be in the file.
Starting point is 02:07:05 Which file? The FBI file. Your Honor, if there are notes, so this guy, Vermullen, which is Rucini's lawyer, says, whoa, Your Honor, if there's notes in the file, we need to see those notes. We've asked for the notes.
Starting point is 02:07:19 Oh, okay, so guess what? They go, and they look in the FBI file, and they're the fucking notes. They find the notes. Jesus. They've already swore. We're not there.
Starting point is 02:07:30 Yeah. Not there. Been purged. There's no records. There's no... Bam, here's your fucking notes. This is... Sorry, this is funny.
Starting point is 02:07:40 This is the U.S. attorney saying... This is after they find the notes. Pete said when he brought the notes in and laid them down, and they started going over the notes. And I was like, well, what do he say? He goes, Pete goes, you know what's funny about that? I write this in the book where he says... He says, you know, the funny thing is, he goes,
Starting point is 02:07:55 he'd done everything he was supposed to do. do. Like he'd filed the right motions. He'd said all the right things. He'd done all the right things. He was, but when he saw the notes, it was the first time I could tell he believed me. He was, he was a good attorney. He was, but he was going to the motion. This, when he looked at the notes, he
Starting point is 02:08:11 was like, fuck. Yeah. He couldn't believe it. Right. Because, you know, you assume that the guy's lying to you. Right. So anyway, this is one of the U.S. attorneys telling the judge, our files, our internal files, were purged years ago. There's nothing
Starting point is 02:08:27 else. So that's why they can't find. So the 302 is not synonymous with the notes. It's vastly different. Right. And he says, uh, so they left out all the corruption and all that stuff. They leave out everything. Everything. So what ends up happening is she says, okay, we're going to let you talk to Mueller. We're going to bring Mueller back. So he was okay. Sorry, we're going to let you, we're going to let you talk to Mueller. They say that to Rossini. No, no, yeah, they say it to his lawyer and Rossini is. They say, we're going to let you, we're going to let you basically interview Mueller as a witness. Wow. So you can go. They go. They're going to, they go. So you can go over this. But we're limiting it to two hours.
Starting point is 02:09:01 Okay, remember the hotel? This is called the Monterey or Mondrial Hotel right here. So it talks about the Mondrial Hotel. That's where they delivered the first 50,000, which is, it talks about how Frank, somebody was, they stayed in Rossini's room. So he deposit, he gave $50,000 down and that he still owed another, another $50,000 right here. Right. So this is how they talk about, he talks about just them going up to the room and there's 50,000 and 50,000.
Starting point is 02:09:31 Right. And it's Mark Farsione. So where does he say? He says, make sure they don't find the body. And here it says that they said, says not to kill him in San Francisco. Okay. And what is that from? This is from the notes.
Starting point is 02:09:45 This is Burroughs notes. Okay. This is Burroughs notes when Pete's talking to him. Right. Now keep in mind, he's got a bunch of notes. But these are the ones that he leaves out all these things. He leaves out of the 302. The 302.
Starting point is 02:09:56 Right. He never mentions anything about corruption, $50,000 payoffs or anything, the hotel, nothing. Keep mind, too, multiple people are there. All he's got to do is go talk to these people. People were there. Mueller doesn't go. No, not interested in talking to them. We can't have, we can't be generating, can't be generating notes.
Starting point is 02:10:13 These notes are here, so it's done. They got them dead to rights, pretty much. Well, do they? Because you would think. You would think, declaration of defendant, Rusini submit. So, Rusini here explains what he told Mueller in this whole thing. He explains all this about what he told Mueller and what the notes say and everything
Starting point is 02:10:29 and they send it. So why did they ask them why they left these notes out of the 302? Did they ask them that? Did they ask that to Mueller? Well... Or to Burroughs? I mean, surely they get the notes
Starting point is 02:10:43 and what's his attorney. Oh, yeah. Oh, they're going to interview Muller. Burroughs had already been interviewed. Yeah. So now it's Mueller. Now they come up with the notes, then they go straight for Mueller.
Starting point is 02:10:51 Okay. So Mueller, they ask. So Mueller gets on the... When Mueller takes the stand, Keep in mind, too, this is on a video thing. He's in Quano or wherever, Washington someplace. I don't know. So he ends up taking it.
Starting point is 02:11:04 He's on a screen and everything. They talk to him. He's only only got two hours. So they go through the whole thing. And you can read this. This is all on the website. And this is like right after 9-11, right? No, it's a while.
Starting point is 02:11:16 This is a while later. Like this happens in about 10 years. It's in 2011 now. Oh, shit. Okay. Keep in mind, Mueller's been constantly putting this off. You know, I have meetings with the White House. So finally they say, we'll do a conference.
Starting point is 02:11:30 They do a conference. It's only going to be two hours. So, okay. They ask basically, yeah, let's try to summarize that. Okay, summarize the whole thing is that they start asking him questions. Did they talk about this? Did they talk about this? So this is the one that I love.
Starting point is 02:11:44 So he's expecting him to say, you know, he's like, he's like, I'm expecting him to say that I, just what happened. Yeah. Just say what you talk about. Come clean. He has no choice. Did Mr. Rossini ever flashed him? out deny he was involved in the murder of Ellenberger or
Starting point is 02:11:59 Estes. Did he ever deny it? No. To the contrary. He implicated himself substantially in both of those murders. What about the notes? Does Mueller not know that they... Mueller doesn't know they found the notes. That's what I'm saying right here because they ask him, did you review this? No. Did you review this? No. We sent you this. No.
Starting point is 02:12:23 He's like, all I looked at was the 302. Because he knows. because he probably helped craft the three others. Right, of course. So then they start going through, and if you read it on the thing, in the book, and if you read it on the website,
Starting point is 02:12:35 which I mean, I know we're trying to wrap up. So he ends up saying, he says, oh, Risi, downplayed his role substantially. He did this. He did that. Then they start saying,
Starting point is 02:12:47 so it starts to become obvious as they're asking the questions about corruption, and were you involved in this, were you looking at this, where you're looking at this? He starts to realize something, you know,
Starting point is 02:12:55 You start to realize something's up. Yeah. It's got to know something. So it's like, then he starts immediately saying, they start asking about corruption, law enforcement, investigation. Did you look into this? Did you know who this person was? Did you know who this person was?
Starting point is 02:13:12 So they start asking about Harrison and Nason, right? And Rossini preparing him to testify. They start asking about all these different things. And one of the things they start asking is about the, about he's like they're like why would you go see him well we wanted to make sure that we were going to prosecute the right person
Starting point is 02:13:31 right you didn't right so so what he told you was completely contradictory to that so he says uh did you review all the all of the notes he's like no how about the law enforcement reports
Starting point is 02:13:44 did you review those law enforcement reports I reviewed the 302 did you talk to agent burrows or anyone under this And he says, not that I recall. He said, you haven't talked to anybody. Right. He's in Washington.
Starting point is 02:13:59 These guys aren't called. You can't call the FBI director. It doesn't matter who the fuck you are. Unless you're the president. And nobody thinks anything's wrong. A lot of these guys are just going about their normal day. Right, right. They don't realize this guy's going to get on the stand and say all this fucked up shit.
Starting point is 02:14:13 So when you went to talk to Rossini, you know, do you recall, you know, Farsion, Barrera, or Blum, and about the investigation, he says, I'm not certain. See what I'm saying? Now he's starting. I'm not certain. It's been too long. I can't remember. Can't recall.
Starting point is 02:14:29 He starts doing all that shit. I can't recall. I can't recall. What about Farsione? What about this? The case? Not that I'm not saying. So he starts fumbling and fumbling and fumbling.
Starting point is 02:14:38 My favorite part is when he starts to kind of get him into a jam. He says I don't recall like 100 times. I don't recall. At this present time, I do not recall what I was thinking or in my mind at the time. He's like, do you remember reading this? where they were saying it was about corruption. They were focusing in on corruption. And this and this, he says,
Starting point is 02:14:59 do you recall at this point having read that or not? He said, I don't recall, but I can tell you, I adamantly disagree. Mueller basically snaps. A police officer did not pull the trigger or kill. And he cuts him off. He's like, I'm not saying he did. He pulls out the handwritten notes.
Starting point is 02:15:20 And they start going over the handwritten notes. Who starts pulling it? The lawyer? The lawyer. The lawyer. Ristini's lawyer. And he starts to show him the notes. And then he just fucking turns into, listen, I don't remember. I don't remember. I don't know. I don't know. I plead the fifth. Did you discuss this? You know, I don't recall. I could have. Then it becomes I could have. I don't have, I don't recall today.
Starting point is 02:15:47 If it's in Bruce's 302, we did. He keeps going back to the 302. That looks good. Because he knows, well, of course he crashed it. He's safe there. If they cracked it and we know, that's my safe place. Yep. Yep. That's perfect.
Starting point is 02:15:59 Right. That's all I read. Yep. So he starts talking about testimony. He's thought, if you read the whole thing, everything that Rusini said was correct. And he's really, really trying to back out of the whole thing. And so it just becomes a whole bunch of, I don't recall. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:16:15 Well, what about this note? What about this? He's like, I don't know what was in Bruce's mind when he wrote that. I don't recall. What did you do after Rusini told you all this? Did you launch any investigation at all? You went to Leavenworth and the guy just told you that the FBI officer is the one that basically, you know, officer or, you know...
Starting point is 02:16:38 Agent, whatever. Yeah, they conspired to help commit this murderer or that they leaked the information. Did you look into that at all? And he's like, well, we may have. It's possible. We could have. Because he knows it doesn't look good if I'd, didn't follow that up.
Starting point is 02:16:51 Yeah. Well, we already know, Burrough said, and his transcript, we didn't look into any of that. Because he's saying that didn't even happen. He's saying,
Starting point is 02:16:59 now we know it happened. Did you look into it? And he's like, well, we could have, maybe possibly, there may have been a separate investigation. No,
Starting point is 02:17:06 no, we're talking about this investigation. I don't recall. I don't know. It's very probable it occurred. So they go on and on. I mean, it just, bro,
Starting point is 02:17:15 it goes on and on. In the end, it reverts to him just saying, I don't recall, I don't recall, I don't know, I don't recall, I don't recall. And if you read the whole thing, and I know we can't read the whole thing, I know it's ridiculous. It's, you know, it ain't good. Yeah, no. And this is, this is a condensed version.
Starting point is 02:17:33 Keep in mind, this is 136 pages, almost all Mueller saying, I don't recall, I don't recall, unless you say something bad about an FBI agent. And then he says, that is absolutely untrue, you know. Meanwhile, there's notes from his meeting with Pete that basically say, basically contradict everything that he's saying. Everything he's saying, they've got notes that say, yeah, exactly. There were, there were, there were, there were payoffs, there was murders. Farsione's saying we're not to murder him here, make sure they don't find the body, didn't even look into it.
Starting point is 02:18:04 50 grand here. Doesn't even look into it. So after the two hours is up, then what happened? Like, what happens? After this proceeding is over, they run out of time. They gave two hours with Mueller. Right. Mueller basically wasted two hours saying, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:18:17 Right. So where do they go from there? Well, he ends up getting resentenced. Basically, they go to Pete and they go to the whole thing. They end up saying, they end up, he gets resentenced. The judge knocks it down to like, he goes from like 40 years to like 35 years. So it's like 40 to 5 off. Like 5 off?
Starting point is 02:18:41 Fuck. There's nothing. So he, Pete appeals it. Again. Again. He appeals it. They say. the appellate court says,
Starting point is 02:18:50 we're going to let you talk to this guy. We're going to let you bring Mueller back untimed. As long as it takes. So that's one of the things they win. Like, you can't limit them. Yeah. So his attorney basically, the new attorney's like, look,
Starting point is 02:19:05 they call up the Wilson-Leon. What is this? Like his third attorney? Yeah. Yeah. So they call it the use attorney and they say, look, we're bringing Mueller back. He goes,
Starting point is 02:19:15 and we're going to keep him on the fucking stand a couple days now. Really dig in hard to. Yeah. The guy's like, all right, listen, calm down. Let's work this out. Let's work this out. So they end up, they end up eventually, they end up realizing that this is it, we're done.
Starting point is 02:19:31 They're going to bring Mueller back. They've got the notes. So the U.S. attorney comes back, and Pete said he was really irritated because he's like, I really wanted Mueller to get back on the stand. But they basically, they file a stipulation. The government concedes that what Mueller said was inaccurate. And, you know, they don't say lie.
Starting point is 02:19:48 Yeah. He materially misrepresented the facts of the, you know, that kind of bullshit. So basically that what he said was inconsistent with the notes, inconsistent with what actually happened. And it talks about, so they concede a whole bunch of stuff, and they agree that everything that Pete said that he denied, he denied it, he denied that he had done all that, that he conspired to do anything, to kill anybody,
Starting point is 02:20:17 that he talked about, they basically concede to everything that actually happened. They bring Pete back again and put him in front of the court again. They once again, the U.S. attorneys come in. They basically misrepresent what actually happened, and they try and confuse the issues, and they say it's all Pete's fault because he was a leader-organizer, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's all him. he gets sentenced again. I think this time it drops to
Starting point is 02:20:51 34 years. They get him 34 years. I think he finally ends up with 34 years. They've resentenced him like three times. So currently at this date, he's at 34 years. So what is Rusini's like what is his state of mind right now? Like what is after all this, all these years of going through all this bullshit like where is he at if you were to talk to him right now? What's his position on it like right now? How does he feel about it? How does he feel? You know what he feels like he's you know he's most upset about is that at one point at one point when he was being resentenced the government brings back not the last I don't think it was a last re-sentence I think it was no I do I think it was the last resentencing they bring in all of the family members
Starting point is 02:21:38 like the okay yeah yeah yeah they bring them all in and they they let him berger yeah Allenberger's family and Esty's family come in. His sister comes in, his brother. Everybody comes in. They all get to be in there. And well, just prior to being resentenced, the U.S. attorney actually said that Pete's attorney, hey, by the way, it was either the Ellenberger family or the Estes family. The families basically wanted to talk to your client. I told him that you wouldn't agree to it.
Starting point is 02:22:09 And his lawyer says, no, absolutely not. No, you don't want to talk to them. And that's it. So then he tells, oh, yeah, by the way, you can I believe this? He goes, he tells Pete, by the way, he says, can you believe that they wanted to talk to you? You know, the SCs or whoever wanted to talk to you. Pete's right. And Pete goes, yeah, I want to talk to him.
Starting point is 02:22:29 Yeah. And he's like, what do you mean? He goes, I want to talk to him. He's like, why? He said, because I want to explain to him what happened. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Right.
Starting point is 02:22:38 I think he killed him. Right. He's like, I want to explain that, you know, like, he loved John. Right. They were best friends. Yeah, they were best friends. I mean, the guy was a fuck up. But, you know, but he's like, but we'd been friends forever.
Starting point is 02:22:50 Yeah. He's like, and, you know, he's like, I used to stay over at his, you know, house all the time. We would eat. I knew his family. I knew he was to stay at our place all the time. My mom would cook them fucking spaghetti. He's like, I mean, we were friends. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:02 And now he's like his family thinks I fucking killed him. I would like them to look me in the face so I could tell them that I didn't do this. Yeah. So then his attorney goes back and talks. to the U.S. attorney and tries to get the U.S. attorney to contact them and he's like, no, no, forget it. Don't worry about it. I talk to him. They don't want to stay. I talk to them. They don't want to talk to him anymore. I told him that he didn't want to. So now that they're done. And so Pete's like, he's like, I would love to tell them that I didn't do this, that this didn't happen. He's like,
Starting point is 02:23:31 I mean, you know, I don't want to do the next five or six years, you know, that he's got at this point. He's like, I don't want to do that. But at this point, you've been locked up so fucking long. Yeah. Might as well ride it out now. Yeah. Well, he's, You know, and you don't, you want, you would. The last five, six, seven years is not nearly as fucking hard as the first part. Once you hit that, once you get over that hill, you know, once you're over the hump, it's, it's a huge weight off of you. And he's coming down just at the end. I mean, he's practically walking around thinking, like, feeling like, I'm getting out soon.
Starting point is 02:24:05 It's five years. He's got five years left. Yeah. And you're thinking, that's how you feel like, oh, yeah, fucking I can get out of here soon. Soon. It's five years. Most people get five years. They want to kill themselves.
Starting point is 02:24:16 Five years is nothing. After 20, it's not. Oh, right. So. Have you talked to him recently? I was talking to him up and to the point when my probation officer told me I couldn't talk to him anymore. Okay. So not allowed to talk to.
Starting point is 02:24:32 You know, I didn't think it was an issue because we were working on a book together. Yeah. Doing the true crime thing. And, you know, but she's, I don't know, she's, I don't know, she's. she's opposed to it. She's not your biggest fan. No, no. She doesn't like the books.
Starting point is 02:24:49 You keep telling me she's rooting for me. But I haven't seen it. So, yeah, so, no, I haven't. Well, if she's watching this, I'm sure she's a very nice lady. Yeah, she is. She's very polite. She's very nice.
Starting point is 02:25:04 She's very, I think I'm just, she's just. She can see that you're trying to, you know. She's concerned about me. I stole 11.5 million the last time I was on. Yeah, right. They tend to get upset about that. So, yeah, so, but you know, here's the thing is that it's like this guy, this guy's in prison for something that he, look, like I said, I mean, I don't know if I said this. I don't think we're on camera or not, but, but, you know, the two guys that committed the murders ate Thanksgiving with their families.
Starting point is 02:25:37 Yeah, right. Pete had a holiday meal in the fucking chow hall. Right, right. His mother came to see him. You know what I mean? I mean, your mother drives an hour and a half, two hours to come see you. It's bullshit. Yeah, it's awesome.
Starting point is 02:25:49 And then all them guys know it. Right. Right. And here's the thing. And so the people that actually the FBI agents and the informant and the people that actually that actually, you know, committed the whole story. The whole murder and the frame up, these guys are at home with their families. It doesn't make sense And, you know,
Starting point is 02:26:14 and Mueller getting on the stand And saying some bullshit You know, if you read the book, you know, it clarifies it really well Where he's just complete It's just bullshit He didn't know the notes existed He's ready to fucking bury Rasini
Starting point is 02:26:27 He could have cut him fucking loose He could have said this man did an amazing job You need to cut it He could have write then said You've got to cut his sentence It's a great, he really helped us He this, he that I mean he could have pushed it
Starting point is 02:26:36 Instead he did the opposite Keep him in fucking prison he didn't kill anybody even if he did what you said he did you gave him 40 years yeah the guys like the killers are already out so you know as far as aria is concerned there's some evidence there that definitely that points
Starting point is 02:26:54 to aria or maybe nason just accidentally like he said at one point he accidentally did was he a hitman did he accidentally i don't know now where's nason and harrison they're both they're out they're out like last year a year before both of them so I just you know and what's so fucked up
Starting point is 02:27:13 is that is that like like I told you I sent this all over the place like Fox News looked at it the investigator for Fox News really looked at it for about a month or so I mean I'm sorry for a week or so
Starting point is 02:27:26 and then he contacted me on the phone and then we talked on the phone and I was trying to explain it and he I could tell he didn't understand he wasn't asking the right questions and his issue in the end was he was asking questions that were like, okay, well, yeah, but we can't prove the phone numbers or this.
Starting point is 02:27:42 Yes, we can. I have the directory that says it was this. Right. I have the, I have the homicide detectives wrote down the phone number for Barrero. Right. And Farsion, he got, those are the right numbers. I assure you, I have, you know, well, and then he switched to something else. And then he switched to something else.
Starting point is 02:27:58 Well, well, I'm not sure that this really, Mueller's really committed a crime. I don't, didn't say, I don't know that he's committed a crime. I'm not sure what you would call framing someone or allowing a, allowing it to continue, but you know what I do know? I know that it's ethically and morally wrong, is that at the very least, I think that people should know
Starting point is 02:28:18 that this is what really happened and that he should have done the right thing. He still could do the right thing. You know, that he could have fixed it. He didn't. He's continuing to allow this to move forward and have this guy serve out a sentence that he never should have been involved in.
Starting point is 02:28:38 Keep mind, the guys that were involved in his drug conspiracy, these guys got a year. Yeah. They got five years. One guy who'd just gotten out of federal prison, like four or five years earlier, who'd been in federal prison a couple of times and the state, massive amount of drugs, because he was willing to cooperate,
Starting point is 02:28:59 he got like eight or nine years, ended up getting out in like seven years, six years. I mean, all of these guys got minor, minor sentences that Pete should have ended up. ended up getting. Yeah. Even if... Right.
Starting point is 02:29:11 40 years. Let's keep him in jail. Why? You can see that it's... It was a complete frame job. Everybody's admitting that. Right. So, you know, my problem is, one, Pete's in prison.
Starting point is 02:29:22 Two, nobody gives a fuck. I sent it to, you know, Fox News. They looked in it. And in the end, what Fox News is, I think what it boiled down to was that basically the guy said, look, the problem is, he said, I don't know about all these documents. He said some of them are, a lot of them are sealed. Pete's got them. I have them.
Starting point is 02:29:45 But the fact of the matter is he doesn't like the idea that I was involved. So. You personally. Me personally. Right. Because you got to pass on a record. Exactly. Secondly, he said, we cannot, he goes, I, I, we cannot move forward with something like this.
Starting point is 02:30:01 He goes, because it's such, it's such a big allegation. It's such a bombshell that we can't get it wrong. So what you did was. you read the book, you looked through some documents, and that's all he did. He called, I think he called Vermelan, which was the lawyer, which was the lawyer to ask Vermalyn, Vermalyn wouldn't respond to him. You know, I mean, you're not going to talk about your client's case. Right. Nor do I think that, keep in mind, he probably doesn't want to talk to him anyway, because if it has anything to do with the Mueller. Now, what, this stuff getting out, like, say Fox News did run this,
Starting point is 02:30:35 or a big network like CNN or whatever, ran a story like this. What would happen? What would happen to Nothing would happen to him. Nothing would happen to him. Right. But what it would show is that, look, he didn't follow up the leads. What you do, if you lay out, if you will lay out a whole bunch of information and you just stick with what's your, what furthers your agenda, you're going to come up with a file full of facts and documents that prove whatever you want proven. You ignore the other ones. So you can easily shape any investigation.
Starting point is 02:31:09 Right. And that's what he did was he shifted blame. He shaped the investigation. He stuck it on this guy to avoid any involvement of the FBI to further his agenda. And that's what it boils down to. And so this guy, so Pete, the Rossini has to sit in prison. And the problem is this is one example of shit that happens probably every day in the FBI and in the U.S. prison system. Like there's so many people, he's just one guy out of a million.
Starting point is 02:31:37 Yeah, I mean, I hate I hate to say that because it's like, look, listen, if you're in prison, there's about a 99.99% chance you're supposed to be in prison. I've met very few people that were innocent. He's not innocent. He's not innocent. Pete's a drug dealer.
Starting point is 02:31:55 He shouldn't have got 40 years. He should have got 10 years. Maybe he helped. He helped throw the body away and dumps me, right? He disposed of the body. He did. He disposed of the body. And that's a horrible thing. That's prison time
Starting point is 02:32:08 Definitely prison time But he's serving a sentence For crying and he didn't commit Cut the fucking guy loose Right You know here's the problem is Is that the podcast Like people will watch this
Starting point is 02:32:17 And they'll try and pull their They're very polarized They're Democrats or Republicans To me it's not a Democrat It's not a Republican What is Mueller? Is he a Republican? He's actually a Republican
Starting point is 02:32:27 But Democrats and Republicans Just love him Everybody loves him Okay So why Do you know why? No idea why I think it's just because
Starting point is 02:32:36 he's all around a government guy. He's got great credentials. Yeah. He's got the good resume. Hey, yeah. Marine Corps. Marine Corps officer. Volunteer for now. That's why they don't want to run it on the news. He's a patriot. Yeah, I can say bad things like that because
Starting point is 02:32:51 smearing my, I remember it's funny. I actually called a guy, a reporter, and told him about this. Let me tell you the conversation real quick. Conversation was, I told him the whole thing and all the evidence that I had, but I never used Mueller's name. I just said the U.S. Attorney did this and the U.S. Attorney said this and this and this and this and this and he goes, oh my God, can you prove this? Can you prove that?
Starting point is 02:33:12 I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was all excited. Man, this is great, Matt. Can you send me that stuff? That's great. That's great. I said, yeah, there's only one problem. He's what's the problem? And I go, well, the problem is the U.S. attorney was Robert Mueller. And he goes, why would Mueller do that? I go, well, what? Well, because I just told you he was like,
Starting point is 02:33:28 it was politically motivated, I think. I don't know exactly. Yeah, but I mean, Matt, he's got a seller reputation. Why would he do that? I mean, doesn't even make sense. Suddenly, everything that I said that he was excited about, bloop, turn. Right, man.
Starting point is 02:33:41 That's crazy. He didn't ask me for anything to send him anything after that. And I knew right then, and he even sent me an email where he said, look, you might want to send that to Breitbart or Fox News or one of those guys. But, I mean, if you really, he was mad if you really expect to be, you know, to try and become a journalist at some point. He said, I mean, you need to really think about who you're, you know, basically who you're getting. bed with.
Starting point is 02:34:04 I was like, it's nothing to do with fucking, because all them news stations are politically owned by a lot of those people at the end of the day.
Starting point is 02:34:12 But I was like, I can't believe that you're going to ignore. Anyway, my point is, is that, look, what I would love to see happen.
Starting point is 02:34:20 Free Pete. I would love, Free Pete, baby. Yeah. I would love to see, I would love to see people, obviously,
Starting point is 02:34:29 buy the book. Yeah. Look at the, look at the exhibits. Yeah, fact check it. but send it but to share this
Starting point is 02:34:37 with like share it with 10 people and ask them to share it with 10 people and ask them to share it with 10 people because look I don't care if it's going to conservatives or liberals or whoever it is but if you got the message out there and
Starting point is 02:34:53 could maybe somehow or another there are avenues to cut him loose is what I'm saying is that could help him right first of all he's got he still has the ability to and people like him He can file a 2255 Because he's got a super strong argument that one
Starting point is 02:35:09 He pled guilty to this and Mueller Had him enter into an agreement with saying something completely opposite Which basically... Right, so what ends up happening is he has the ability to get his sentence Basically quashed or reduced It's a simple motion from the government Fuck Trump could fucking pardon him You know, I mean, I'm just saying it'd be great if this got forwarded
Starting point is 02:35:33 to as many people as possible. Yeah, true. I don't think he watches any podcasts. Yeah. But, I mean, it would be great if it got forwarded to as many people as possible until something happened. Yeah. You know, for Pete, because he's really, I think of the, you know, in the back of the book,
Starting point is 02:35:53 I say, I want to say I say he's being released in, it's October. I think it's October 20, 25. Okay. Not 24. Might be 24. I'll have to check. Okay. Might be 24.
Starting point is 02:36:04 So, yeah, October 2024, man. What a, I mean, that's, I mean. And he's already done 20-something years. Yeah, God damn. Someone, that's, that's fucked. You know, his mom comes to see him like every two weeks, just like my mom used to come, we used to see each other all the time.
Starting point is 02:36:19 How old is he? Pete, pizza, pizza, 50. He's 50 now. He was exactly my age. Wow. So, yeah, so, I mean, that's, it's definitely, you know, and here's the whole thing. Don't even believe me.
Starting point is 02:36:31 Just look at the evidence. Read the book, look at the evidence. You don't have to believe me. I'm just some scumbag. I mean, I have no problem with you. You said, oh, I don't fucking believe it. Okay, great, don't believe me. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:41 Read the book. The facts are there. It's not even a big book. Yeah. It's an abridgment of a larger book. It's like 110 pages. It's a joke. There's footnotes.
Starting point is 02:36:51 They all correlate with the exhibits. So that's, that's where I'm my. And keep in mind, things could go bad for me. I could get violated. Maybe for all I know, they may come after me. We were talking about getting killed. So, yeah, so anyway, definitely. Don't come after us, please.
Starting point is 02:37:10 Yeah. Don't kill the messenger. Yeah, you could always, they could always come up with some reason. Right. Yeah. FBI shows up at Danny's front door. Holy shit. It's not hard to say.
Starting point is 02:37:21 We decided you got to go back for six months. Yeah, we don't like what you're doing. Right. Wow. Well, thank you for coming in here and telling the story. It was a bombshell. I hope a lot of people can share it and learn more about this and we need to fucking free Pete.
Starting point is 02:37:36 He's such a good guy. He only moved the body. Yeah, he only moved the bodies. It's an amazing story. And I suggest, you know, everyone, like, they can go down there. They can order the book. Soon, you're going to have an audio version of it available. We're going to help you record some audio stuff for Matt.
Starting point is 02:37:52 He's got a YouTube channel. Subscribe to Matt's YouTube channel because he's going to have some audio book. You're going to put some audio recordings on there soon. Yeah, I'm going to take some of the actual stuff that's on my website inside True Crime. I'm actually going to do an audio version and put those up so that you can, you know, because nobody reads. Right. No, everyone listens.
Starting point is 02:38:08 They want to listen to the story. They want to drive and listen. Is that a podcast? Yeah. It's a word. Audio book. Audio book. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:15 It's not really a book, though. They're just synopsies. It's not really a book. It's a story. It's a story. Yeah. Short stories. Subscribe to his YouTube channel.
Starting point is 02:38:23 Buy the book, Devil Exposed on Amazon. Check out his website inside true crime. And what's the exhibits website? Oh, devil exposedexhibits.com. and there'll be a link. Fact check them yourself. Yep, that's right. All right, man.
Starting point is 02:38:36 Thanks again, Matt. Hopefully we can tell a know the story again here in the future. Yeah. Sorry I had to rush through this. That's completely Danny's fault. All right. Good night, everyone. Thank you.

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