Danny Jones Podcast - #31 - How to Fix Your Body Using Breath | Will Grant

Episode Date: January 20, 2020

Will Grant is a professional BMX racer, body builder, and content creator who sustained horrific knee and shoulder injuries during his racing career which nearly crippled him. Through the use of breathing exercises (breath work), meditation (mindfulness), fasting and strategic muscle balancing techniques, he not only healed his body, but he is racing bicycles professionally again.  If you are even remotely interested in optimizing your mind and body this podcast is for you. Will's Channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/willgrantresults Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Will Grant is a professional BMX racer and bodybuilder who sustained some horrific knee and shoulder injuries through his racing career, which crippled him for a very long time. It wasn't until he discovered the use of breathing techniques like Wim Hof, meditating, fasting, and these strategic muscle balancing techniques that we talked about. He's not only been able to heal his body 100%, but he's back to racing bicycles professionally again. So if you are even remotely interested in optimizing your mind and optimizing your body, this podcast is definitely for you. Talking. Talking. I'm not very good at it, which is why I started doing this.

Really? I suck at talking. This is just like a challenge for me. I think we've got the same watch except you have a gold one. 12 bucks on Amazon? 10. Oh, you got the deal. I think you paid two extra because you're just gold, dude.

Is it the Casio? Yeah. Hell yeah, dude. That shit's sick. Yeah, it sucks. So, all right. So for people out there who don't know who you are, just give me sort of like a brief inner to who is Will Grant?

I mean, I'm still trying to figure that out myself. Yeah, for sure. I mean, aren't we all? Yeah, always. Who is Will Grant? I mean, I could tell you a little backstory, I guess. I was born in Washington State. I moved here when I was like eight, nine years old with my mom, my brother,

a couple dogs, a bunch of cats, like, dude in this tiny little U-Haul truck. It was a five-day drive. And we got here, and I mean, I'm not. see my mom was like addicted to hell of drugs like that really dude like that that's a huge reason of what got us to florida because like in 99 to oh one that's when florida was getting in all that trouble for like like pill mills like they were just given out like oxycodone and all those drugs from the doctors like that's what florida's famous for yeah and uh we lived out in the middle of the woods like it took us probably half hour to get to the closest gas station and so my mom broke her back

And then she had some family here from Brooklyn, and plus, like, she knew about the care here. Yeah. Yeah, we ended up moving to Florida then and started racing BMX when I was, like, I think 10 or 11 years old. My brother actually got me into it. He was stealing everybody's bikes around the whole neighborhood, like bringing all their bikes, take it apart, spray-painting them, and then, like, selling them back to people. And, like, he was talking about getting into racing, and I was just three years younger. wanting to do it my big brother did and that's awesome um but except i had a dad he didn't really have

a dad my dad bought me a bike for uh christmas and you guys what stepbrothers uh half brothers uh yeah so so we're half brothers like i have two but we don't call each other half brothers you know my mom told us from a young age like you're full brothers there's no such fucking thing as half brothers yeah yeah so we were raised thinking like we're all we got you know what i'm saying so yeah and then i ended up getting a bike actually it was for my birthday um And then so yeah, I was living with my mom. And then when I was like 10, my dad said that I can move in with him and pursue BMX, like full time as like a 10 year old, you know?

So like I, dude, I left the trailer park. I moved in with my dad who I thought I had all this money, all this opportunity. And we traveled around the world, really racing BMX. And then when I was 15, dude, I mean, it was tough living there, man. It really was. It was actually a lot tougher living there than my mom's house. and at 15 I ran away I just said peace see you later and just ran away yeah why I feel like I could do it better on my own yeah yeah honestly like dude I mean at 15 dude at 15 years old like I moved in

with my dad to race BMX you know for this like opportunity to like yeah really raised BMX that's all I cared about you know I was young and crazy anyways and then I mean it he like I was getting in so much trouble all the time. Like he was so strict with everything to where like he would get home and there was like crumbs on the table for me making a sandwich and I get the shit beat out of me. You know, like, dude, he would check my homework every single night. And if I had like a letter that was a little slanted to the left, he'd make me rewrite my homework 25 times. And then he'd find another letter that was messed up. And then I would be writing the alphabet for hours every night. Like he would walk up and if my shoes weren't tied tight enough, he would flip me over and say,

what's wrong with you? You know, you can't tie your shoes, little boy? You know what I mean? And then, like, it, it just kept, like, small, like, small things where I couldn't do anything. Like, it felt like I was living in prison, you know? Like, all I was really allowed to do was train for BMX. And then when something happened. So he was kind of like, was he really pushing you hard on BMX? Or was it kind of like you, he was just supporting what you wanted to do? Or do you think that was coming a lot from him kind of pushing you to do BMX?

I mean, it was, I mean, I wanted to do BMX. Right, for sure. You know what I mean? But he had the mindset. But if I didn't do everything as best as I possibly could for that, then he wasn't going to take me to the races. So he would come home and make sure my bike was clean. Like everything around my whole life was perfect. You know, so I focused on that.

But then after when I was like 15, like something small, something stupid, he just said, you're not racing anymore. And then, I mean, it wasn't a good, healthy relationship. And then once I realized I wasn't racing, like, I just left. Like, I mean, BMX was everything that was important to me. And then I was supposed to go live with my mom, but I knew I wasn't going back to that trailer park. Like, so I just left. I crashed. I mean, I had friends.

I slept on the floors. I slept on couches. I slept on coulap outside. You know what I mean? And then when I turned 16, actually, there was a family in BMX after eight months of, after running away. he heard about my situation. And he said, yeah, I own a business. My kid races BMX, and I'll let you live in my house.

If you just trained my kid to race BMX? Because I was only 15, 16 then, but I was like national champion. You know, I like won everything. So a lot of people, I guess, look, or a lot of even kids younger than me, looked up to me at that age. And then, yeah, so I moved into his house. He gave me two rules, just respect his house and stay away from his daughter. And yeah, I end up getting.

engaged to his daughter. Oh my God. Yeah, that's a whole different story. And then, and then, yeah, then I was like, I'm going pro 16 years old. And I turned pro at 16. And then I end up tearing my ACL, MCO, PCL, meniscus, everything, like three months into turning pro. When you were 16 years old? So, like, I turned pro and I was 16 and then like my, my birthday was like the next month. So then like a month after being 17, Yeah, I tore my ACL, I tore everything So you just exploded your fucking knee Yeah, exploded one.

Damn, dude. I won my first pro races too. Fuck. And then it took me a year to get that healed. And then my first race back, didn't even crash. Put my foot down, re-tore everything. Like, oh, my.

Well, yeah, because I was a minor, you know, with free insurance comes free doctors. Yeah. Free doctors comes some guy that's just rushing and hacking up your body, you know. So, I mean, I didn't even crash. I just, you know, I did physical therapy, perfect and everything, but I just put my foot down and it retort everything. And then at that time off,

I became a personal trainer, you know, like I wasn't able to race. So I, you know, and I had this passion for fitness. I had this passion. That's when you were like a bodybuilder, right? Yeah, when I was, yeah, during that two and a half to three years that I was injured, I just started training my upper body as much as I could, you know, and I was still keeping my legs fit as much as I could because I was doing, like, I'm trying to strengthen my leg and doing my own, like, physical therapy for the knee. But that's, It's hard to do leg training when you have a fucked up knee, right? Well, yeah. So when I became a personal trainer, like the first surgery I got, I got because I was a minor.

So I got the free insurance. But then after that, I was 18. And the only way I could get individual insurance or really insurance to get my knee fixed was I had to have a job that offered the insurance. So I became a personal trainer at a gym. I did their three, four months so I can get their insurance. Yeah. And then I found the best. doctor I could. But then at that time, I was a personal trainer. I thought I knew everything. I was the

shit. I don't need no physical therapy. You know, so I started doing my own, like, training for my legs to build up my strength. And I thought I knew what I was doing. And I ended up building up a lot of bad habits of movement to where, like, I had all these imbalances, you know, so when you have a surgery, or when you have any trauma to your body, there's muscles that get extremely tight to protect. And there's muscles that turn off. And then physical therapy is really meant to rebalance your muscles to turn on those muscles and to relax the muscles that are too tight. Why do you think your muscles were so out of balance? Was it because of the bodybuilding or because of the BMX? So after that second surgery on my ACL, I did all my own physical therapy. And I didn't know what I was doing. You know, honestly,

like, I just went right back into training instead of fixing the issue. Right. You know, it's like any problem that you have. Like, if you just try to mask the symptom, it's going to cause bigger, different issues later on. Yeah. You know, and that's what happened was, like, I never kind of relearned how to move properly. So then, like, just every little movement that I was doing, like, I just wasn't using my

body properly, you know, but, and that's something that almost everybody's doing. Right. You know, like almost everybody is using their body improperly because we're a sitting culture. We sit down all day, which brings our chest, our chest, our quads, our hip flexors, everything too tight while our glutes and our back just don't know how to activate. So then we have all these imbalances in our body and, and, you know, depending on who you are is what's going to hurt first. So if it's your knees, if it's your back, if it's your shoulders

or whatever it is, but it just comes from the imbalances. And then what happened to me was what would have normally happened to me if I was 40 years old, it happened really quick because I was an athlete getting injuries. Right. You know, but like I said, if you talk to the normal 45-year-old, his back hurts, his knees hurt, you know, his shoulder hurts, and it's just from bodies being in balance from whatever they're doing. I just wanted to the chiropractor for the first time of my life, like, two weeks ago. Like, because my lower back started really fucking hurting. I don't know why.

There was no trauma. There was nothing to really explain it. And other than the fact, you know, I go to the gym just like anybody else. I do, you know, cardio. I try to balance my workouts with everybody. They found out, and my yoga instructor actually pointed out that my, like my IT band and my hamstrings were like unusually tight and that's what was contributing to my lower back being in so much pain so now I'm been like using a what do you call it a tennis ball to like roll out my legs a lot more and like focusing on that that's really it's helped a lot yeah yeah really good stuff dude like just imbalances what all those pains are and you know and it's the way we're living really you know like with the way we're moving and using our body and even like the way we're moving and using our mind is just not really balance with it. the way it should be, so it's causing, like, chipping or pain in some way.

At what point when I saw, the last time, like I said earlier, the last time I saw you was at Josh's wedding and I asked you what you've been doing and you said that you don't work, you're like, I don't work out my upper body anymore. I just do legs. All I do is legs and it just, the rest of it works itself out. Like I work out my legs and it makes my arm strong. I'm like, what were you doing at that point? So then I was just training like full athlete for BMX. And like, and yeah, I, I, I really wasn't training my upper body, like going into the gym and doing bench. Right.

I mean, dude, if you're doing like compound movements, like dead lifts, like power cleans, you know, front squats, like you're bracing, you're using your body. Using every part of your body. Yeah, yeah. Like you're using your body the way it's supposed to as one full moving piece. Not necessarily targeting your chest or targeting your back. And then I still had that muscle tone when you've seen me because from like 16 to 22, I was lifting my upper body like a bodybuilder trying to get jacked for the honeies, you know?

Right. Yeah. But then, yeah, and then when I was just racing for those from pretty much when I got back to like 21 to 25. Yeah. I mean, I was training hard, not necessarily the smartest way to train. You know, like I should have had a coach. You know what I mean? You know, like I should have hired somebody who was smarter than me, but it's hard to learn when you know everything.

You know what I mean? Of course. And I was in that mindset of like, dude, I was the shit. I knew everything. You know what I mean? Like, you know, I spent my whole life, like, building up my ego and to make myself seem as great as I possibly can. Yeah.

And then. Well, how could you be a fucking bodybuilder doing bodybuilding competitions and, like, without a massive ego to accompany it? It's tough. It's tough. How could you? You have to align your purpose with something else, which I definitely wasn't, you know? Like, I was trying to get as jacked as possible to get, like, you know,

people feel like they care about me or they love me or like you know to get that value in right most kids i mean most kids that age group are doing sure and like my whole entire life danny my whole life i put all the value in myself and what i could physically do and what i physically look like like and that's what i put all my value in and that's what i work towards and then when dude i lost all that you know then all of a sudden my body started breaking down my mind started breaking down like what I did when I was 21, 22 wasn't still as cool anymore. You know what I mean? And even my racing, like I wasn't getting the best results.

You know, even my career in BMX was just getting like worse and worse. And like I was getting less and less relevant. And like all this stuff that I put this value in was just dwindling away. And then all of a sudden my body started breaking down. Like I mean, I'm talking I had so much pains in my bodies from my ankles to my knees to my hips to my back. I couldn't even open my hands all the way. And it's just from like I was going hard too. Like not just in BMX, but just in my life and partying.

And, you know, like in all this stuff. Like I was going so fast and so hard in my life. And like the more pain I felt physically, mentally, emotionally, you know, the faster I went, you know, because I noticed when I started slowing down, I started feeling that pain if it was mentally or physically or whatever it was. So I would just try to go as fast as do as much as I can. then it was just causing more chipping of my body of my mind and then and then it took to the point where everything literally broke. I broke my leg. You know, my whole knee exploded. My femur cracked like dude, my collarbone broke. Was the femur crack? Was that in a bike race or a bike

accident? So, um, not necessarily, but it was in training like in practice. Okay. So it was on a bike. Yeah. Yeah. So let me get this straight. to make sure I don't. Femar, that's fucking gnarly, breaking your femur. So, like, so I built up all these, um,

bad movement patterns, right? So I had all these awful imbalances like, like where I was walking like shit. I was moving like shit. And then it hurts so bad to use my body. When I wasn't training, I was just sitting on the couch.

And, and then it was just getting worse. And then once I started realizing like, all my shit was out of balance, I started working on rebalancing it. And then when I was working on rebalancing it, you know, like starting doing yoga and starting doing movement therapy to help rebounce my body.

And I started, but I never took a break. You know, like I never took a break from the training. I never took a break from the riding. I, you know, I just started to rebounce something. But when something is out of whack or twist and turned, and then you align it reback, but the old grooves are still there, it's going to cause something to crack. You know, it's going to cause something, because if something was moving, like, off balance. Are you talking about like bones right there?

Yeah, yeah. So, or really anything. A joint? Okay. Because one thing always works the way everything works. Everything's, yeah, right, right, right. So, like, so if your knee is supposed to work in alignment like this, you know, and perfectly. And then if you have inbalances, it's slightly turned or just going off that track a little bit.

Right. It's going to cause potholes. It's going to cause chipping away and all this shit to chip, like any machine. And then when I slowly started working at realigning that, the grooves were different. So then it caused it to crack. it caused it to explode because I just kept riding I kept training I kept and then and it was like a stress crack almost yeah so then literally I'm riding and practice you know my knee's starting to feel funny but I didn't want to stop you know like like anything when I was feeling this pain I was Mr.

tough guy you know what I mean like I wouldn't admit I felt any pain because I'm tougher than that or yeah I thought and then I just kept riding and then all of a sudden then all of a sudden it just like exploded and and and dude what was crazy was when it exploded like all of a sudden hurt so bad to walk just to put my foot on the ground i was in so much pain and i didn't know like what was going on you know i was like oh this is going to buff out you know but yeah yeah two three days two three days later it didn't buff out um and it was getting worse and worse like i literally couldn't put my foot down you know without like just extrusciating pain in in my knee and i'm thinking like what the fuck you know yeah and then hurricane irma came you remember the big

oh yeah i fucking remember that shit yeah so hurricane irma came and And we lost power for like two weeks. That sucked. And that's when I fasted. That's when I did that eight day fast. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. So.

Now, what? I don't want to jump ahead. I don't want to jump ahead. But I want to get into fasting. We don't have to get into it right now. Because this is obviously happening way before Irma. Dude, it all. The knee stuff. The thing with your femur.

Well, dude, my femur broke like a week before Irma. Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So like, so while I was riding and training like pushing through. all this pain that I was dealing with like my knee exploded and then Irma came okay right and then Irma was a big hurricane that hit Florida and we lost power for two weeks and then it's weird I kept

hearing about these small things of like how fasting helps heal your body right right and then I was hearing that it just helps like rebuild yourselves you know yeah where'd you hear it from like dude I'm just around it all you know yeah yeah yeah like I'm around health people all the time yeah Like, I originally, like, who was telling me the most about it was actually my old racing buddy, Mike Caldwell. He used to live with me. Okay. You know, and, like, dude, he tore apart his body where his whole, like, adrenal fatigue got so gnarly, like, his whole body shut down. So he had to rebuild his whole entire body.

And, like, he was telling me how fasting is literally, like, the best thing you can do. Yeah. But then I just could never have time to fast because I was too busy training so hard. You know, and, like, you know, dude, it's hard to train if you're not going to, you know, like, you can't train if you have an empty stomach like that. um like not over days and days right so then dude hurricane i had no power the only thing open was hickdonnells yeah i couldn't ride i couldn't train because i can't freaking walk yeah and then oh and i couldn't get a doctor's appointment because everybody was out of power right so i was just like all right what a weird time that was dude with Irma. The whole town was like a fucking ghost town. It was weird, right? It was like eerie.

Yeah, dude. And I'm just sitting in my backyard like, dude, full hunger mode. Like, dude, reaching different levels of, so at what point did you decide to fucking fast? Like before the hurricane got here or after you lost power? Dude, the hurricane got there and then we all lost power and the own like, dude, everything just set up perfectly to where like the only thing that I could have eaten was McDonald's. Okay. You know what I mean? So you're like, fuck it. Yeah. So then like, I was like, dude, my knees fucked up. The only thing to eat is McDonald's. I can't get a doctor's appointment.

Like, I'm just going to try 24 hours, right? And then the goal is to do 24 hours. And after I hit 24 hours, I woke up the next day, and I'm like, shoot, I think I can go two days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then during the two days, my buddy Mike Caldwell was telling me, well, shoot, you know, if you hit three days, your body has already rebuilt its whole entire immune system. Right.

And I was like, I'll make three days. Hell yeah. So you went for it. Yes. So then I made three days. And then he's telling me, you know, after three days when your body rebuilds its whole immune system, then that's when it really uses all of its resources on rebuilding all of your cells and rebuilding your cartilage and just rebuilding, regenerating your whole body. Yeah, it's like being born again, right?

Yeah. So then I went and I just kept fasting. And then I couldn't get a doctor's appointment either. So then he was telling me after like six, seven days, like, dude, it's. starts getting like spiritual like this different level of perception this different level of understanding and like what it's from is like your body or most of us our bodies and our stomachs are always working on digesting because we're eating all day right you know what i mean other than the first hour or so that you're awake your body is using most of its resources on digesting food right

so it's truly amazing what your body can accomplish when it's not working on digesting food like all of our organisms and all of our biology and our chemistry and our physiology wants to fight for health. So when when it's not being preoccupied by all this bullshit that it has to digest, it instantly goes into just start healing and rebuilding and cleaning. And we have all this, all these toxins that are in our body. Yeah. Every time that we eat a bad food or breathe shitty air or breathe in exhaust fumes or even have a bad emotion, you know, if somebody cuts you off on the side of the road and you think, oh, fuck that guy, that just produces toxic chemicals that are released inside your body.

And we're 75% water, and that's where they all sit. You know, and, like, all of these emotions sit in our body as, like, toxic, you know, whatever. So just for our body to start cleaning that out, dude, you feel it, you smell it, you taste it. You taste all these toxins, just releasing your body. Like, you smell bad. Like, you taste it. Like, like, after three days, like, you know, going to the bathroom is a lot different, too. Like, it just gets empty.

And, like, you're seeing. this all this nasty stuff that's in there. Did you have the mucoid plaque come out? Dude, like, it's hard to tell. The shit that line. You know, there's the stuff that lines inside of your guts? It's like, it's like old sewage, like old plumbing. It looked like it, yeah.

But, like, I mean, I didn't like, you know, analyze it. How many, how many days did you do? Eight days. Holy shit. Dude, I did eight days. And this is what's crazy. You know, and this is not like scientific fact, but they say that, like, about a one day fast

we'll clean out about a whole year's worth of toxins okay wow so like if you don't eat for 24 hours your body cleans out about all the bullshit that you've given it for the past year yeah like I'm not sure if that's science you know but that's just what I've heard right and then they say so if you went through some big

like trauma especially big emotional trauma that might have caused a lot of toxins you almost re-go through that while you release that so for example if your mom died like four years ago on that fourth day, you start having those emotions come up, you know, and you're releasing those emotions. You're learning from those emotions. Like, a crazy thing is going on there. And, like, it's really hard to explain unless you experience it. But what's crazy is after eight days, I weighed the exact same weight as I weighed eight years prior. And something, like, all of me

running away from home and all that craziness that happened when I was like 15 years old was about seven years prior. And I refelt all that going on. And then after, words, I never felt so, like, clean, so pure, like my, my understanding, my, you know, my paradigm just felt almost better than it ever was. But when I first broke my fast, I honestly was thinking, what the fuck, where are my superpowers? You know what I mean? Because I heard about all this crazy, like, dude, I just fasted for eight days. Why don't I feel like Jesus? Yeah. You know what I mean? Did you have any kind of, like, peak state that you were in during the fast? Was there any point where you felt like did feel like Jesus or felt like you could?

you'd fucking do anything or felt great? Anything notable? You never quite really feel great. You know what I mean? But you're diving into such a deep depth of yourself. You're learning what the fuck you went through. You know, like fasting is you'll learn so much. You learn more from an empty stomach than almost any other thing on this planet.

Yeah, food is the number one drug that we're addicted to. Dude, he's so, so right. It's worse than detoxing off of probably any drug as food is probably the hardest thing. You're so right. And, you know, and when you can withstand from food, you gain this inner sense of power, this inner sense of strength that you take in all different areas of your life. When I was younger, I grew up so poor, so hungry to where, like, food was something that when you have, you had to get as much as you possibly could the second you got it.

And I had this really bad relationship with food. Every time I was hungry, I remember growing up poor and I got upset. You know what I mean? And then it built all these more toxins. You know, the toxins within my body. But then as, but then as you work through this and you start fasting, like your perception of food changes. Like, you learn that, okay, like, I went eight days without eating. I've only, you know, if it's lunchtime and my body's feeling hungry, my relationship is not like, oh, my God, I have to eat right now and get as much food as I can.

But I'm more in control over those urges, 100%. And then now it's like, if there's bad food and I want it, I choose to, you know, instead of like having no control to where I need. that bad food and that is one of the biggest strengths that helps you with all different areas of life. Yes. Food, sex, drugs. Yeah. You learn a lot about discipline when you try to fast for that long, especially.

And, you know, it's weird. It's like the way I felt, I did a five day fast about a year ago. And on the fourth or fifth day, I was playing basketball with my buddies. And like normally if I play basketball, it's high intensity. You're running around full court. And usually after like one game on the second. game. I start to feel like that side stitch where I got to take a break or I'm winded. I got to take a break. I got to breathe. I got to drink water. I swear, we played probably four games back to back and

I felt no fatigue. It was weird, dude. I'm doing like high intensity cardio running and you're probably not supposed to do that. It's probably not smart to do while you're fasting. Dude, that's right. But like I had no fatigue. I didn't get that stuff, that side cramp I normally get. And then I went to the gym and I can normally do, I'm like, I'm a pussy. I can do maybe eight pull-ups on normally, like just per one set of eight. I could do like 20, dude, no lie. It was so weird. I could not explain it how on a fast I could have so much more endurance.

But then I saw, I listened to a podcast, Tim Ferriss podcast where he interviewed, I forget the guy's name, Dr. Dominic something, South Florida doctor who studies fat, like really studies nutrition and fasting. And he talks about like the ketones in your blood and how like our ancestors when we were hunt when we used to hunt food old human monkeys that we would have to go you know seven to ten days before we would eat and that's when our mind and body has to be working at its best right because we have to find food right and at the seventh day 10th day you haven't eaten how are you going to how are you going to stalk down your prey how are you going to chase down whatever the fuck it is you're trying to eat and you have

to have energy so those ketones that go out that are in your blood after you haven't eaten for so long the way it breaks down i don't know the i can't remember exactly the science of it but the ketones in your blood basically give you a longer sustained amount of endurance. Yeah, it's a different type of energy. It's a different type of energy. And it lasts longer. It's crazy, dude. It's fucking gnarly.

You know, and I think, like, we don't activate that or get into that much because of our modern day lifestyles. Oh, for sure. It is always being available. For sure. Like, we lose so much of our inner powers and inner abilities and strengths because we kind of donated away to these modern technologies. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. Just building disciplines. That fast was definitely by far one of the best things I did in my life, you know, because I needed to get all that toxic emotion, that toxic bullshit out. You know, especially in my early 20s, I was sick in the head. You know what I mean? Like there was something wrong with my head.

I was living not the way I should just doing fucked up shit, you know, like living a toxic lifestyle. And then to get all that shit out of me and then almost like, like you said, like being reborn. Yeah. You know, to where like I didn't feel like. Like anything was crazy that first few days, but it all started settling in where I just felt better in my body. I felt like a better understanding of everything. Did you work out or do any kind of exercising when you were fasting? I couldn't because my life was broken.

Nothing. Like you couldn't do like any kind of like pull-ups or push-ups or anything? No, no. No. No. Because I like I was actually healing from a broken collarbone too. Oh shit. Wow.

Fuck, dude. You were jacked up. Oh, dude. So like I was fucked up, man. Like I was stuck in my. house I couldn't raise my arm above my head I couldn't walk like dude I couldn't do and it was the only and it was the best thing that could happen to me because it was the only thing that had me slow down you know like it was the only thing that slowed me down that had me stopped to to start processing all this

shit that was going on you know to get myself outside of myself and to start you know seeing what is going on because I was going so fast you know like the dust would never settle so I could never see what exactly where I was and what was going on. And then when I slowed down and stop, everything became real and started speaking to me. And then I had to stop and listen. And then that's when I started meditating and breathing. Really? Everything changed.

That's when you found out about Wimhoff? Dude, yeah. Like, everything changed. Like, actually. I saw you into Switzerland and got in some cold water. Yeah. So that was pretty sweet too. But like, so that summer was, yeah, I think it was summer 2017 when I was.

I started doing like when I did the fast, when I did the whim-hoff. And like, so I broke my collarbone. I was healing from the broken collarbone. And I got clear to start riding three days into it. Like, oh, and during that time that I was healing from my broken collarbone, that's when I did a lot of the realignment therapy with my body. And then, so then three days into training, that's when my knee exploded. And then that's when the fast happened.

But when I, or that summer is when my brother, you know, I was trying to find other ways to train. other ways to better myself. Yeah. To make myself great. Yeah. You know? And I couldn't train myself physically because my whole body was shutting down. And that's when I kept hearing things about meditation, you know, and I was understanding

that, well, like, if physical exercise is the way to train your body, meditation is the way to train your mind. And I never done that before, but I knew I needed it. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? Yeah. So then, you know, I would meditate here and there, like, never consistent, but I knew when I did it, It felt good and it was helping for sure. I just could never like build a habit of it.

And then when my brother told me about Wim Hof, um, I got back from Washington State that summer and I was like, I'm going to do this every single day. And then that week was the week that my leg broke. And I did the fast, but I was doing the Wim Hof like every single day. My whole bot like I was starting to get outside of myself,

like get outside of my ego and see myself from outside of myself. Like look, you just lost everything. you put your value into yourself. Where are you at now? Yeah. Like your best thinking got you here. You know what I mean? Like you don't have nobody around you.

You're sitting here miserable. Like you're lost. Like dude. Were you living by yourself? Were you alone? Or would you have roommates? I was alone. Really?

Like I have a roommate, but I think he was racing in Europe at the time or something. Or like he was out of the country or, you know, or out of the state or something. But, but yeah, it's crazy. And then I started breathing. There's something about that being alone by yourself and being miserable. Dude,

100%. Like that's when you're going to grow and learn the most, dude. And that's, dude, that's what happened. Like, dude, I just started blocking everything out and connecting with my breath.

And then, like, our breath is our spirit. Like, that's our doorway into everything internal. Like every emotional pain, every emotional joy, every physical pain and physical joy.

Like, you know, the doorway in to understand that is through our breath. So then when I just started connecting with my breath, I was connecting with myself. And then one, I started realizing that I put all this value in trying to make myself a badass. And I really ain't shit. You know what I mean? Like, you know, after all this, like, I realize I ain't shit because, like, I ain't doing nothing for nobody.

You know what I'm saying? Like, like, what am I contributing? What value am I bringing? Right. And then when I looked like, I realized, dude, I've been doing all this for what, for nothing? And then that's when everything changed. You know, I started like starting to put things into other people. And then, you know, the more I started helping out, you know, like the people closest to me, like the better I felt.

Like, energy is energy, right? So if they say that you become an average of the top five people around you, like if you can just help out, you know, the people closest to you, it's going to make you feel better, you know. And if you want to help out, you know, the people closest to you, if you just help yourself and make you better, it's going to help the people around you. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then when I began breathing is. And then that's what, for the first time I was able to stop and, like, understand what was going on. Like, understand this pain. Understand these emotions.

Understand all this bullshit I went through as a child, you know, instead of just blocking it out and trying to go so fast so I didn't hear it. Yeah. You know, I began to listen to it and, like, understand, you know, the depth of my self and my personality and my purpose. And, you know, and then I started like, and the more I became in tune with myself, you know, the more I started. understanding why I'm here, you know, and what my gifts are and what my talents are and, like, how I can really use these to contribute to society to the world, to the people I care about. And that's when I created this whole plan. And I've been going out of it ever since hard for, like, two years.

So what is, what do you actually do with breath? Like, what do you do with, like, what is your, like, the breath work that you do? Yeah, but when you focus on, when you sit and focus on, you obviously meditate while you breathe. So how, what's like the actual, it's just like the big, the big end and then like the push out, like the, the there there's a million ways to do it you know but the simplest way to do it is to stop set a timer for five minutes three minutes 10 minute whatever you have and just feel your breath start breathing and notice the feeling of your breath going in and notice the feeling of your breath going out and like normally after a few breaths then your mind will go towards this you know or go towards what

you got to do later or go towards what happened right just notice that let it go and connect back to your breath. That's the mindfulness of it. Yeah. Exactly. And then that act there of just noticing where your mind went and bring it back to your breath, that's strengthening your awareness, that's strengthening your self-awareness, that strength, and knowing where your mind is going. Yeah. And that's the practice of being present. Right. You know, and the more present you are in everything from you're doing, from a podcast to making a movie, to having sex, to a relationship, the more present you are, the better you're going to be doing. Not so much from sex. I figure your sex helps me more when I try to get myself out of the moment.

So that way I last like an extra 30 seconds. Let me think about a chair. That's true. That way I go longer than the average two minutes. Yeah. Anyways. But yeah, so then the breath. So yeah, just connect to your breath, man.

Yeah. You know, and then you'll start to notice like the way you breathe is the way you live. Yeah. Like if you're a shallow liver or if you're a shallow, like if you live very shallow, you're most likely going to breathe very shallow. Right. You know, and like when you just start connecting with your breath, with no other distractions, you'll start to know where your mind goes.

You'll start to know where your mind goes when you're feeling good and when you're feeling bad, and you'll know how to kind of jump into the mechanics. Like, like, think of like an airplane, you know, like a pilot. They have all those different buttons and all those different controls to control that airplane. We have that too. We just only know three buttons. But we have hundreds of different things that we don't know. Right.

That we just don't know how to activate because we've lost through this modern day culture of inside and fake lights and, you know, nice air condition. Like we lose our ability to connect with ourselves and to use our tools that we have. And to connect with our breath, you start to dive into those, you know, and start to understand yourself. And the more you can do that, the better you're going to feel and the better decisions you're going to make. And then one good habit led to another, led to another, led to another, led to another. and then my whole life, my whole paradigm, my whole perception changed. And now, like, I've never felt better. That's awesome.

You know what I mean? Like, I've never felt more confident and faithful and where I'm at right now today. Yeah. But for Wimhoff, isn't there a specific technique where you have to almost to breathe where you feel like you're about to pass out where you feel like really lightheaded? So Wimhoff is great because most of us ain't fucking breathing. Yeah. We're barely breathing.

Like, we're barely living. You know what I mean? Like, we're hanging on. Right. No one, no one's, most people haven't ever thought about breathing. Right. No one's ever thought about it. They just do it.

Four years ago, I never thought about my breath. Right. You know? But I never really thought about where my life was going either. You know what I'm saying? Like, and, and Wimhoff is getting people to breathe and breathe deep. And when you, okay, and all it is is say 30 breaths. 30 breaths of the biggest inhales you possibly can, right?

30. 30 to 50. Okay. Like 30 is a lot. Yeah. Yeah. So like after 10 to 15, your body is not used to that because your body's not used to all that oxygen. Because we're usually breathing so shallow.

You know, unless you play sports or do some sort of training, you really don't breathe heavy that very often. So then to start breathing in as deep as you can, all of your cells, all of your systems are being activated. They're getting woken up and they start to speak, right? And then after 30 of those deep inhales you possibly can and those exhales, you just released your body all that toxic carbon dioxide and replaced it with this fresh new blood or fresh new oxygen. Oxygen, yeah. You know, straight into your blood. And then after 30 of those breasts, dude, you're lightheaded.

Your hands are tingling. You feel like, you're about to pass out. You feel like, dude, this feels crazy. Yeah. And then one big last breath in and let it all out and then hold and sit there. Empty. Yeah. I mean.

Empty lungs, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So just on that last exhale, just hold and sit there and witness. Be the observer. you know and notice what comes up because your body is going to be speaking to you whatever it wants to say like our bodies are speaking to us all day but we don't understand the language we're only hearing our bodies when it's absolutely screaming at us and we don't know what it's saying we're just like fuck it hurts you know but our bodies are speaking at us all day and and when we stop and just listen and the more we listen

the more we can connect to that and the more we'll be able to understand that language and then soon as something is off, our body tells us immediately. So then it never gets too far off to where it feels pain. Right. You know, we can go around a lot of the suffering that we go through if we just get really in tune with ourselves and in tune with our breath and understanding like, yeah, just what the fuck's going on? And that's with your breath. So during that time of that breath hold, dude, you start to learn about yourself, like what comes up. And then if you're timing those breath holds, like, and this is what I did was, dude, for a year or two straight, I was timing. I was timing. I was timing. my breath holds and I was journaling and writing all of this down to where like I had all these

new ideas of this way that I was going to change my life and change my body and change everything I was doing but it was getting mixed up unless I started documenting it so I started documenting my breath holds and then after doing that for a while you start to really notice when your times were really good you know when you could hold your breath a lot and when you can't you know and there's a few things I just kept noticing like patterns like when I was focusing on the result or the number my breath holds were less but when I was just in the moment just relaxing and let things be how they are my times were way more you know like if I was doing it with other people the more I tried to compete with the people next to me and try to hold my breath longer you know the worst my breaths

were but the more I sat there and thought like I hope he has a great time you know trying to give all the people around me really good energy yeah better my times were You know, and then I started taking this into my daily life and I started realizing, like, I started learning so much about how my mind works, how my body works, and how everything is working just from connecting with my breath. Because connecting with your breath connects with yourself. And you can't understand anyone else until you first understand yourself. So your level of understanding of other people is just the level of understanding of yourself. You know, if you understand yourself on such a shallow level, you won't really be able to understand another human being. Right.

You know, so then I just started to understand myself more and then understanding other people more and then understanding how the world works. Yeah. You know, and I'm still learning every day. Like, you know, I'm not saying like, yo, I figured all, you know. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I'm not saying I figured all this shit out, but I'm figuring shit out every day from just connecting with my breath and just stopping and being the student of life. You know, like every single day, every experience that happens is an opportunity to learn, to help you to learn and to grow and evolve to your best self. And the more you can do that, the more you can help out the people you care about.

How often and how long for it, how long do you meditate for and how often do it? Now then or like. Currently, right now. So currently I wake up every day and I like to hit a 15 minute timer. Okay. So usually one of the first things I do in the morning is I like to get blood and oxygen and blood flow moving throughout my body. Yeah. So I'll do some sort of breathing and some sort of movement therapy.

So I like to set a timer for 15 minutes and I say, okay, this is just 15 minutes I'm going to use to connect with my breath and to be present, you know, and to just connect. Yeah. And I'll usually do about three to four rounds of Wim Hof and then just regular, you know, noticing my breath until the timer goes off. Yeah. Sometimes I'll be doing Wim Hof breathing until the timer goes off. Okay. Sometimes I'll only do two rounds and just sit there and regular meditate until the time. timer goes off.

Yeah. But I just have to give myself that 15 minutes. And then a lot of times I like to do a second session too in the afternoon or at night, like if it's with friends. Yeah. So like a lot of my friends are pro athletes as well. Okay. And I got all of them doing this.

Do you really? Dude, they do it like, yeah. Like they, when you do it and you feel it, you get it. Like, dude, your body goes to a whole different place.

And like, you know, the longer that you're holding your breath, do the deeper you're able to go into your brainstem. Like you're able to really Activate that fight or flight to where your body can fight off the disease fight off that Infamination and like dude and the more I started doing this like the more I started being able to control what's going on Like controlling my moods to my immune system to my body to yeah like I got to the point where I was doing it so much I could just lay there

And with my mind, I mean call me crazy, but I can consciously feel my inflammation draining through my body Wow just laying down and doing a sort of certain type of breathing and and putting my mind to it. I can feel the inflammation draining through my nasal right into my lymphatic system and then I could just pop my ears and then drain it back down. And like, I learn all this from my breath. Like all the answers that we search for, like we're all looking for something. You know, like all the answers that we search for are within us. We already know everything. Yeah. We just don't, we're just so distracted by all the outside. You don't listen to our bodies. That we're not listening, you know, but.

all the answers are within us, we just have to stop and connect. That's why I love fucking talking to people like you, man, because so many people are just not worried about that kind of stuff. They're not worried about how to get better or fix themselves or how to eat better or how to. And a side of that is selfish. Yeah. It's what? I said, and then a side of that is selfish.

Selfish? Yeah, yeah. Because if you're not wanting to get the most out of yourself, like, how are you contributing? Right. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't matter what team you're on. Right. If that's your family, if that's your coworkers, if that your friend, you know, if that's your friends, like, you know, the better you make yourself, the better you can help and contribute to whatever team you're on. Right. You know, so like, I believe to not work on bettering yourself every day is selfish. Mm-hmm.

You know, like, for sure. Yeah. And you can't really help other people until you can truly help yourself, I think, too. Once you learn how to truly help yourself and you really understand. understand, understand yourself. You know, and that was something that I learned through all this, like, I realized before all these injuries, I was putting all this in and trying to make myself great. And then I realized, fuck, that was the wrong way to do this, you know? Then I started realizing that the more, you know, like, if I wanted to be loved and valued,

I had to bring value. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So then I started realizing that, you know, the more I help other people than the fucking better I felt, you know what I mean? Yeah. I believe that the most selfish thing that you can do is help out, you know, the people around around you for sure. Definitely. I was going somewhere else with that, but I want to say the same,

the same thing with eating too, like what, not only like about breathing, but with eating, what you eat is honest, is truly what you are. You're made up of what you eat. They're finding so many different connections with your gut from your, yeah, dude, your gut is connected to everything. It's like our brain, you know? I think, I don't remember who it was, but there's like another brain, I should say yeah no yeah it is they're saying that your gut is definitely like your second brain yeah they asked this guy somewhere in asia who was like the oldest person ever recorded living and i forget fucking how it was he lived like 120 maybe and they asked him like his last interview before he died like what's your secret right and he goes uh take care of your gut the first half of your life

so that your gut will take care of you the second half of your life that's that hit that's it that's it that hit hard because for me the first half i'm fucking half my life's almost over i'm 30 years old and i've never gave i never gave a shit about taking care of my my gut or thought about what i ate yeah you know that's what got me into my whole yard project like yeah oh yeah your your fucking yard is full of what you eat you eat everything out of your own yard yeah yeah so like dude so a like what's crazy is they're finding out that like our gut microorganisms and our gut microbiome is so connected to our soil. And like it actually works almost the exact same way. So like we have all these. So for example, a lot of people thought that, okay, if you eat a vegetable, then your body absorbs those nutrients

and the vegetables and that's how we get healthy. And just like in trees, they thought, okay, the roots of the trees absorb the nutrients in the soil and that's what makes the tree. It's not the case. It's actually based on like millions on billions and billions of like microorganisms of like, fungi of like this microbiome that works as like a network that that has this perfect relationship that breaks down the food and feeds it to whatever we need it just like in the soil and and I learned so much from just watching my yard grow about how my own gut works and about how everything is aligned with it and the more that we can eat and align with our gut the better everything will will connect.

So for example, we're eating so much of this industrial food from these industrial mono crops where you have like a certain vegetable or a certain fruit grown in like tens of acres with just a bunch of that. And no ability to connect to other plants or animals because they

spray it with a bunch of shit too. Yeah. And that's what's not only with vegetables. Obviously like factory farming with meat. That's even worse. But the vegetables is the same way. It's terrible, dude. And this shit wasn't around in the 70s. I don't think. I don't think it was as near as bad as it is now i think it's start i don't know maybe like the 40s or 50s when they started like industrial farming and that's pretty much when everything started going to shit like

cancer went up like asperger's like yeah dementia dude all that stuff started going up because all this toxic pretty much the way that we're growing food you know the way that we're growing our food is killing us and our planet yeah like 100% and and when i started to wanting to heal my body i started to just start researching like what is the best nutrients i can have you know like how am i supposed to eat to heal my body and it just kept coming down to of course like you know the most organic and the more naturally it's grown like eating from the earth you know like so are you are you vegetarian vegan you meat okay yeah yeah yeah i love me i do i love a nice what's your what's your diet like like what what is your diet like what's the balance um so the balance is i like to break my fast every day with a

super smoothie. Okay. And that is pretty much where I just take a blender and I blend up as much of the most nutrient dense foods I can find. Okay. If that's from my yard, from the grocery store, whatever's in season, you know, dude, and that gets my gut happy. Do that helps all the, all the bad shit that I'm going to do. You know what I'm saying? Because, like, I'm a strong believer is I don't want to fight all the bad shit. You know what I mean? Because that becomes a hard to battle to battle against it of this temptation of, oh, I can't ever have chocolate again. Right. I fucking love chocolate. Yeah.

But what I'm going to focus on is just doing the good. So just to start my day with as much nourishment as possible, because most of us are overfed and malnourished. So instead of fighting all the good foods that are all around us, let's start with just nourishing ourselves. So that's what I like to do is I source the best fruits and vegetables I can find. That's halfway convenient, and I blend it up, and I'll break my fast with that.

And then it depends on my day, or like how I'm training, but usually like sweet potatoes, a bunch of vegetables. You know, like I really try to eat as much vegetables as I possibly can. Right. And then I'll take my carbohydrates like sweet potatoes or fruits, paste on how much energy I'm going to be giving out. Yeah. It's different for when you're doing high-intensity shit like BMX.

Yeah, exactly. But pretty much, dude, like the main thing with my diet is I like to have that super smoothie to make sure that I'm just properly nourished. Okay. And then I try to have- And it's just all vegetables in that smoothie? It's just like a lot of fruits and vegetables. Fruits and vegetables.

Like spinach, kale, blueberries. Yeah. Hananas. Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. I got moranga, a coutook that's from my yard. Like, dude. You were saying, you were saying something that you had like some ice cream-flavored bananas or some shit. Ice cream flavored bananas. How the hell did you get that? Just like, I've never even heard of that. So just how there's like a hundred different varieties of

varieties of apples you know there's like grannie yeah yeah dude there's hundreds of different varieties of oranges there's hundreds of different mangoes right and bananas okay dude there's hundreds of different strains of weed just like there's okay different strains of yeah every plant on this earth dude i need some fucking ice cream flavored bananas dude asap i got yo i got bananas that tastes like apples and and the most beautiful thing about bananas is so you have one banana plant right yeah you plant the one banana plant if it's happy nine months it's going to give you a rack of some fruits Yeah. And four other banana plants.

Really? Yeah. So you cut down the one that just gave you a rack. Now you got four other banana plants to put over your yard to give them to a friend to sell whatever. So, dude, I started with like three or four different banana plants that were four different varieties. Now I got just a whole border of bananas where it's like constantly have one eating, constantly, I always have bananas. Did you, have you ever made like any kind of video on like how you made your garden that you. have or you grow everything?

Dude, because I want to learn how to do. I want to do that. I need to figure that out. Dude, so the main thing is soil. Just the soil. Dude,

like everything can, like, dude, we live in St. Pete, Florida. Like, it's beautiful weather

year round. Like everything wants to grow. The hardest part about growing here is just the soil. So if you build the soil, everything, dude, all you got to do is just plant whatever you want it to grow. Really?

And building the soil is so easy. It's free and easy. All you got to do is call your local tree companies. and ask for them to drop off their wood chips, their mulch. And that's what breaks down into the best soil, the best dirt. Just the mulch? Yeah, yeah. So, for example, if you go into these forests, right?

Every fall, every autumn, what happens? All the sticks and the leaves, they fall. Yeah. And then that's what makes that hummus, that microbiome, that fungus underneath. That's what breaks down into the soil. Okay. So when you go to like, you know, the northwest, like Washington State, you know, that has like the biggest trees and the biggest forest. And if you go and they have this most beautiful soil.

And it's just from years of like, dude, it takes like 100 years for a forest to build like an inch of really good top soil. And all that is is from the sticks and leaves falling. Okay. You know what I mean? Okay. You know, and of course, like there's the nutrients from the animals dying on it. Right. Yeah, for sure.

You know, like the animals like pissing on it or whatever. But the bulk of it is what. breaks down from the trees, right? And if you call a local tree company who are like trimming up the oak trees, so the oak trees are a pioneer species, they've been dialing in this climate, this soil, everything in this environment for hundreds of years or for however long Florida's been around. Yeah. Right. So then when you break down that tree and cut it into wood chips, that's what breaks down into that perfect soil that's going to perfectly help your plants in this climate, in this environment. Okay. And that's what's going to align that kind of like,

your gut, that gut microbiome with everything that's going to help feed all your plants and give it that internet system where it can communicate with. So you don't actually use dirt? You just put the wood chips down to turn into soil. Wood chips break down into dirt. How long does that take? In Florida once like two months of summer. Really? Yeah. Dude, so we laid like three, four feet of mulch. Okay. You know, and then it broke down into like seven inches of soil. Damn. You know what I'm saying? And like, bro, we're constantly adding more mulch because it's just, like, mulch is the nourishment. Mouche is the energy, you know? So like, you know, mulch is one, it's the carbon, too.

Yeah. You know, so when you're putting that into the soil and that process of it breaking down is what is the process that feeds all your plants. Okay. And that's the soil. And, yo, our guts work the same way. Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

100%. And that's what's crazy. Like, and then when we're eating the, the, the foods. from like, you know, the soil that is around us, that's when our guts can align with our environment. We're not going to be struggling with allergies. We don't get sick because when the weather changes, our gut changes, you know, and when our gut changes, like, everything changes. So we're aligned with our environment. So every time the weather changes, it's not going to get us sick. Right. For sure. Yeah. And dude, and it's crazy. It sounds crazy, but just putting your bare feet or

bare skin on that soil is what's going to help strengthen your immune system because like, dude, we're all electric. Like all those neurons are rebalancing itself to like connect with, you know, the microbiology in you, in your gut is connecting with the microbiology in your soil. Right. That's so important to just aligning ourselves with the earth. And the more we're aligned with the earth, the healthier and happier we're going to be. And do you, so do you intermittent fast or no? Yeah. I mean, every day. Dude, like all the intermittent fasting is is going what 12 hours without eating 13 12 13 hours something like that yeah I do that all the time you know okay like but dude if I wake up I mean do you eat the smoothie for breakfast or do you wait

do you skip that and wait to like the afternoon like do it like at first thing in the morning so I'm not like super regimen of like okay I got to have this at 9 30 you know what I mean like bro it if I wake up on a Tuesday and I got a big gym session that day yeah I want pancakes in the morning yeah hit some pancakes yeah yeah and my roommate makes some bomb pancakes you know and my roommate makes some bomb pancakes pigs with the bananas that grow in my heart. Oh, shit. So good. Like, but then again, like, if I wake up and I got a bunch of stuff to do and I just start doing it and I, you know, and that's when my mind feels like it's going to be working its best too is on an empty stomach. For sure. I feel way sharper when I haven't eaten. But then most people aren't like that because

their body just isn't used to it. You know what I'm saying? So most people ride away, oh, I can't do anything when I'm hungry. That's what they think. How hungry I am. Right. But that's because that's because their body just isn't used to being hungry. Okay. And they're, relationship with being hungry is a bad relationship. It's a negative. It's a negative thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, every time I'm hungry, I'm thinking about how my body is just healing itself.

It feels good. My mind's working. Like, I feel great. So, yeah, like, sometimes I wait until 11 to have the smoothie, sometimes 12, sometimes one. I go by my schedule and how I'm feeling that day. Okay. You know, like everything's always changing, so it's hard to have a super strict routine and everything. That's one thing that I learned from, you learn from nature.

and watching my yard grow into its own living ecosystem. It's like everything on this planet is constantly changing and constantly creating. You know, it's creating new leaves, creating new feathers, creating new sticks, creating new something. So when we create, we're aligning ourselves with nature. Yeah. And everything is constantly changing. Like if I go out in my backyard today, it's going to be different than going to my backyard tomorrow.

There's going to be different flowers, different butterflies, different leaves. You know, they sit differently. They have their own, dude, they're alive. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

So then, you know, is the only thing that quits growing and quits creating is something that's dying, you know? So I always thought about, I've always wanted to do that, first of all. I've always wanted to grow my own shit. But it's way easier than you think. I always think about it. It's like, it's like, it's so much upkeep and so much work. Dude, that's how I, dude, if you do it the way, like, they teach you, like, okay, you're going to build a raised garden. and you're going to plant your seeds in the spring and harvest them in the fall.

It is a lot of work. It is a lot of work. But I'm not doing that. How do you upkeep? How do you, what your upkeep like? Who up keeps the forest? Nobody, right? Nobody, why?

The animals. Not, not even. Yeah, there's shit. Because everything's in balance. Okay. So all the trees, it's just balance. It's in alignment. So when you have a diverse of plants, they take care of some,

So, for example, if you're starting a company and if you're wanting to start this big, huge company, you have to resource other things to other people because you only have certain amount of strengths. You have to hire people who have strengths that are your weaknesses. Of course. And then in a company, when you have the diverse of talents and diverse of skills, that's what it's a truly successful company. And forest is the same way. So the more you have a diverse of plants. So for example, what we usually do is we have this monocrop. So we have tens of acres of pineapple.

Mono crop. A mono crop is how we grow all of our food. So we have like acres on acres on acres of the same food. Okay. And it brings in balance. It kills our soil. It brings in balance. And that brings the pests.

Because the pest knows whoever pest likes that certain food is going to all be attracted to that. And then you got to spray chemicals to get rid of the pest. And then the soil is getting shitty. So you got to spray fertilizer to get the plants to grow. But when you grow like the forest, it doesn't really do that. because there's a variety. Yeah, because there's such a variety, right? So if a pest comes in, the other plant brings a pest that eats that pest.

So nothing goes crazy. And then if something else needs a nutrient or if something's low on nutrient, it has that fungus network under the internet that communicates and that transfers these nutrients. Yeah. And like it all works together. And one is I'm planting plants that are perennials. So an annual is like something. that you plant in the spring and then harvest in the fall. A perennial is like an apple tree,

an orange tree. You plant it once and it lives a whole lifetime. It grows for 30 years, 50 years, 100 years, whatever. You know, like there's some plants that may only live four or five years. So most of your plants are perennials? Yeah, pretty much all of them. So what I did is I just focused on the soil. I laid the mulch and then every time I have spare like fruits or vegetable scraps. I add that in to the soil to compost it. Really? Oh, shit, you just throw them in there. Yeah. Dude, everything

that's like biomass, like every stick, every leaf, every egg shell, every, like, bro, that's all something that feeds the earth's soil. Yeah. Like every scrap of leaf or broccoli that all breaks down into nutrients for the soil that feeds our planet.

And we are extracting all this energy, all these nutrients into this low quality food. And that's why Like, we're sick, the planet's sick. But when you have really rich soil, then the food that's growing is rich with nutrients. And then when you consume that, then you're rich with life. Right. You know?

Dude, what was I listening to yesterday? I was listening to something the other day. They were talking about how they killed, they hunted this bear, this black bear that all it was all it ate was blackberries or blueberries. Some dark berry. and when they cut it open they filleted it open and they cut its meat it was just this dark stained purple

and they were thinking it was because of the fucking berries it ate all the thing ate was berries Huh, that's crazy And they were trying to correlate it back to like what you are what you eat Yeah You know what I mean It was just super interesting

For sure But they're finding like Dude All of our health is based on Our gut flora You know what I mean Flora? So like

So when you think of your gut All those organisms Like you want to think of like A beautiful force or a beautiful park with all of the diversity, right? The diversity of the plants, the diversity of the animals, you know, like you have a beautiful lake, you have the fish in the lake, you have the squirrels, you got the birds, you have the big plants,

you got the bushes, you have the vines, you have the beautiful life. And that diversity is what's going to bring that balance, that strength of like why, just like our stomach, like why I won't need a doctor to maintain my health. it's just like I won't need to tend to my garden. Right. You know what I mean? Like it's the same thing. Like it's in balance.

So everything does pretty good at taking care of itself. And then if something like if some problem does show up, you stop. You observe. You learn from it. And you evolve and you keep going. That's strong. I need to get my fucking garden going ASAP. Dude, it's so easy.

The first thing you do, call a tree company. Ask them, can you dump off a load of mulch? Because that's the best thing that you can do is start building your soil. Okay. And then second step, you know, the flea market on park? Yeah. They sell so many awesome trees, dude. Awesome plants, awesome bushes.

Hell yeah. You'll have all these Thai people showing you fruits. You never even heard of. Dude, dude, we got jack fruit. You have heard of jack fruit? Yeah, I have heard of jack fruit. They're the fucking pointy ones, right? The spikes on them.

It's bigger than a basketball, right? Dude, it's the biggest like tree-borne, tree-borne fruit on the planet. I had no fucking idea. It was that big. They get like 50, 60, 70, sometimes 80 pounds. What? And they taste like juicy fruit. They say it's what the guy, like how he got the flavor of juicy fruit is from a jackfruit.

Really? Yeah. But dude, they're using it to like help world hunger because it's, dude, it's so much food. And you can. Because it'll feed so many. One fucking fruit will feed a ton of people, right? Crazy. Crazy. That's wild.

Bro, if you shred it up cooking and put some barbecue sauce on it, it tastes just like a food pork You're fucking crazy motherfucker. No, no, no. That's insane. Dude, I've never, dude, I'm not a cook. Oh, okay. So I've never specifically done it. Okay, that's what they tell you.

Dude, like, they use it for like a meat substitute all the time. Do you have a jackfruit? I got two jackfruit. Do you? Wow. But it has, they haven't started fruiting yet. I think my one jackfruit will start fruiting next year. And that's something that like, what makes people a little bit of resistance to do it is because this type of thinking, you know, is like an investment.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you lay all this mulch. And you plant all these plants for fruits that are going to bear maybe in two years. That doesn't fit in with our culture, bro. Yeah. We want it now, man. I want the Instagram. I want to swipe and get it now.

Yeah, yeah. But then, but I think eventually when people keep learning of, you know, a better way to grow our food, eventually it's going to be that way to where you can just, okay, I want an apple and you swipe it. And then this fresh grown apple is going to be right at your door. Right. But is it really going to be a fresh grown apple? It's going to be fucked up, modified. some kind of way. I mean, let's hope not. I think people have to change though. I think I think culture's

gotten to a point where it's just it's got a, the pendulum's got to swing. People got to learn to be, like, people got to learn to be patient. Yeah. They got to learn that mindset of investing for long-term returns, you know, whether it be with finance or your body, whatever it is, it's a whole different way of thinking. Dude, you're so right. And like, I mean, and the only way to start that is with us. You know what I mean? Like, we have to lead by that example. Yeah. We have to do the best we can so then other people will hopefully see that and catch on to that and there's always going to be people who don't give

a fuck and those are the people who are just going to most likely be consuming you know like they're the consumers yeah they're just consuming things all day without much producing and there's so many people that are just fucking blind to it and they don't even take the second to even stop and think they're just it's that guy it's that fucking person speeding down the road

trying to get to the grocery store on time that's fucking you know flipping you the bird going through the light because they're pissed off at themselves they hate their lives yeah i've been that guy yeah right so am i just fucking angry to everybody you fucking didn't stop at the stop sign i'm pissed off and they're feeling their own suffering of course they don't they don't even they don't get it though they just want to blame it on everybody else you always get like what you made you know what i'm saying like like you you you get what you put in if you put out a bunch of bad energy you're gonna feel like shit you know and that's something i had to

learn i guess the hard way let's talk about the stem cell shit dude how did you get so stem cells healed your knees basically okay or how did you first explain tell the story of how you first got into stem cell so the knee exploded yeah right the knee exploded that was in the summertime i started doing the breathing i started changing my life i started reading like bro i never read books before because i couldn't sit down long enough to fucking read a book dude i started reading non my whole life changed you got to have a body harder than a shield and a mind sharper than a blade yeah that's right that's right So I began sharpening my saw.

There you go. You know what I mean? Like, Pensily, physically, emotionally. And then, uh, and the fucking knee, dude, for the last six months of it, dude, I didn't realize how broken the leg was, but they were just giving me cortisone shots. And I was actually finishing the season. And like, dude, I was riding with this broken femur and so much pain just causing so much

more damage from my whole entire body. Yeah. Um, but I was breathing through all this like learning about, dude, I was learning so much through all of this, like just. And then they finally went in and said, look, we got to fix this thing. So they did this micro fracture surgery, which I kind of regret doing at this point. Micro fracture surgery? So essentially they took a drill and they exploded the rest of my knee and broke everything to pieces in hopes that it's going to regrow back.

And then same thing like me. I was supposed to like stay off it for like six months. I started racing and training in like three. And I went to this race in Paris. and dude, it was awful, dude, I couldn't even walk through the airport without pain where I was just like, dude, this pain was not going away, but I also wasn't stopping my training yet. You know, like I started changing everything in my life, but it was one habit after another, you know, I did the fast.

I was doing the breathing. And that's when I started realizing that, hey, I got to stop living for myself and start living for other people. And then when I went to Europe, that's when, that's what got me into video of like, look, I created this whole plan of, like, how I'm going to use. what I have to keep evolving what I have and to use that to help and to contribute to the world. And one thing I understood was video. So I just like, dude, I didn't know how to get my computer on the internet.

I didn't know how to check my phone emails. I didn't know how to work a camera. But I told myself, dude, I'm going all in on video. You know what I mean? Like I'm going to learn how to do this and start making videos. I'm going to take everything that I'm doing that's helping me and create it into some content that can help other people. Document it, right?

Exactly. And I'm going to keep pushing myself to keep learnings. And the more I learn, the more I can video to help other people. And if I'm running out of material to create, then I'm not pushing myself enough. Right. You know, so then, but then, dude, my knee, like, my whole body was starting to feel great. But this pain in my knee just wasn't going away. You know, like, it kept telling me, look, that pain, I have more to learn.

I haven't learned my lesson quite yet. So then somebody I knew, talked to somebody who did stem cells. My manager brought me in, and I met the guy, and I said, dude, I got nothing to lose, man. Dude, let's try this stem cell. And then I did the stem cells, and that's when he gave me, like, look, you can't, you can't do nothing. Dude, if you really want this to heal, you can't leave your house for like eight, nine months. So where did you end up getting the stem cell therapy? I mean, I know people.

From Dr. Locke's right there in Clearwater. Oh, really? Yeah. I thought last time I talked to somebody who did that, they were going to Mexico and doing it. Yeah, yeah, that's, too, I think that's a whole different. Like, they're getting, like, I know there's different types of stem cells. Okay. Like, the stem cell that I used was actually from my own body.

Like, I'm a young, healthy person. Do they took it, like, straight from, like, my pelvis? For people who don't know, explain what exactly, what is, what is a stem cell? So we all have these kind of, like, stem cells that are in our body. Those are the guys that are in your body working at healing and rebuilding cells and regenerating. shit. They're like super construction workers. Right. You know, that always helping to heal your body. And we, we have those all throughout our body and we have a lot of it like in our pelvis, you know, like, of course, where that energy system is like right into our main part of our whole body.

And they can harvest them straight from there and they inject it right into the trouble spot. And it's like injecting these super construction workers to help rebuild all the shit that's going. Wow. Or all the shit that went wrong. How do they extract specifically the stem cells? A big ass needle in it. What? So like the first time, like it was all numb. Like a steroid needle, fucking big stick.

Really? Like this big. What? Yeah, like two feet long. Fuck that. I don't know. Maybe it was a foot. I don't know.

It looked big. Damn, dude. Yeah, yeah. But like the first time I was numb. I didn't feel it, but I did two sessions. And the second time, I don't know if he missed the numbing or he went deeper or like what happened. But, I mean, I've never been raped. But, dude, I felt like, dude.

no loo my skin went white like dude i'm like like it felt like there was something somewhere it shouldn't be you know what i'm saying because it dude it's like deep like and they go in and from like your lower back but they pulled it out and they put it right in my knee and i'll be 100% honest it did help but it didn't heal my knee really it didn't heal my knee because because check this out if you have any problem right and if you have that problem of whatever caused that problem. But if you just go to a doctor and they give you this pill or this surgery

or whatever that's going to help with that problem, if you don't fix or understand what originally caused that problem to begin with, that problem is just going to come back in two to three years in however well. Right. There's just like miracle that's going to happen. So for example, if I had these joint pains in my body,

right? So say if you go to get stem cells because you have a bad shoulder or if you have a bad knee, right? those stem cells will inject these super construction workers in your body to help rebuild your shit, right? But if you keep using your shoulder or your knee in the exact same way, long term, the exact same shit's going to happen. You're going to happen over.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So this pain in your body is meant to be learned from. That's your body trying to speak to you. That's your body screaming. So stop and try to listen what it's trying to say. And that's what I did because, dude, I was stuck in my house for almost a year where, like, dude I what it like he put me on a step counter right I had 4,000 steps a day it was pretty much just enough to wake up piss shit feed myself walk in the backyard breathe and meditate and

4,000 steps yeah if I went to the grocery store and got food I would go over my steps and I would be in a lot of pain damn so dude I was stuck in my house for like almost a year bro of just like just breathing watching my yard grow you know because everything was already planted just breathing in my yard, watching it grow, reading book after book after book. And then I got this sketchbook and I started creating this plan of like, oh, when I can walk again. You know, because there was a time where these doctors were telling me I was never going to be able to like walk or run or jump again without pain. You know, so I started just creating this whole plan of like, you know, hey, this is my second chance, dude. Of like this realizing it's not all about me, but what can I use what I have to help other people?

Yeah. And then so I started changing everything from the way I thought, from the way I moved, and changing the way I moved and changing the way I thought is really what did it. So they injected these stem cells into your knee. And what was the process? Like what did you have to do after that? Like what did the stem cells actually do? Like how did that help? So all right.

So check this out. So for most people, they go in, they get the stem cells injected in like a week or two. They're feeling fucking great. Right. Right, right, because they're sitting at their desk all day. You know, they're not doing much, but I don't want a normal life. Dude, I want to be extraordinary. Dude, like, I wanted to have that extra of, like, I plan on going back and racing professionally.

You know what I'm saying? Right. And that was my goal, and still is, you know, to race professionally on my bike and then not only be a professional athlete now, but when I'm 50, I want to be climbing fucking mountains, my dude. Hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? Who doesn't? Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's your problem.

If you're not thinking that way, then. I want to be as physically fit as possible, like being able to use my body and use my mind until the end. And I knew if I didn't change everything right then from changing from the way I moved from the way I thought, then I wasn't going to have that. And then, I mean, I started meeting with, like, the smartest physical therapist I could find and, like, finding, like, there's these guys from California called Move You, who are, like, the smartest people I ever find of just, like, teaching you how to move and use your body properly. Move you. Move you. Okay. Like M-O-V-E,

then the letter you. The letter you. Like, do they worked with Antonio Brown when he got hurt. But really? Dude, they were doctors,

like physical therapists, chiropractors. Dude, they did everything and they realized, yo, it's not fucking healing people. It's not working.

Like, it's just a bullshit trying to sell you this procedure that it's just gonna put you in the same place. Yeah. So this program like

literally teaches you how to breathe, how to use your shoulder, how to use your body and gives you all these exercises. to realign everything and like I tell anyone if they have any back pain or shoulder pain or knee pain to check out these guys because like that's interesting that was stronger than the stem cells really because it well it changed the way I moved you know what I mean like it taught me to connect with myself and to connect with my movement to be aware of how I was using my body of what was bringing me to this pain of what was causing my shit to break down and if it's breaking down it means it's not in alignment it's not in balance so that program taught me how to like taught me what muscles were too tight and what muscles were too weak and how to strengthen those muscles and how to

move and use my body and how to use my feet like I was never connected with my feet or my breath or anything like right but that's so important how did you learn how did you like digest the program did you go to California or is it like something you download so like they have like this web just move view dot com. Okay. And they have videos and shit. Dude, it's,

dude, it's like the best program I ever seen. Dude, and they're not paying me in any way. Like, I actually paid them.

Yeah, right, right, right. That says a lot about them. Yeah, dude. And I've, I've listened and I've been studying fitness and health my whole life.

Right. You know what I'm saying? And like, I haven't found anything almost as good as these guys. You know, there's a guy named Ido Portaugh. Like, have you ever heard of him?

No. Edo Portaal, like, he's like, the number one dude with movement. You know, like, Wim Hof is like the guy with the breath and the ice, and this guy's the guy with the movement. Okay. But, like, move you.

These guys are just teaching you how to fix your shit. Really? You know, because all of us are out of a line. We're having these pain, these shoulder pains, these neck pains, these neck pains because we're just sitting in cars, sitting with this bad posture. It's showing you that your posture and the way you sit and the way you use your body and your daily movement. It's not that this certain crash caused that injury. That might have been, you know, the. Was like the camel that broke to or straw that broke back, right, you know, but it's the everyday tiny little movements that chip away at our body

Yeah, for sure that if we're not using and moving our body properly, then it's chipping instead of rehabilitating You know, but if we know how to use our body just like if we know how to use our minds, then every movement that we're doing becomes strengthening Instead of like degenerating. Yeah, I learned that recently like with my fucking lower back that I've really like never you I don't use my my core enough. So I like learn to like I've been doing like a lot of like different things to strengthen my core and like I realize how that fucking changes your lower back. That with like rolling out the legs and shit. I never like never thought about that. Dude, I'm still doing this program today. Really? Like oh dude, because I have this time off with my current shoulder injury now. Yeah, right. I crashed like a month ago. Yeah. BMX going great. Got my knees healed. You know,

jumping to the story. That's crazy that you've been doing BMX for so long too. Yeah. Yeah. Dude. And like after them move you and like dude after like the physical therapy like i mean it's still do my knee it's just my one knee it's still getting stronger every day but really it feels fucking amazing that's awesome dude dude it just finally i can walk without pain i can jump i can dude and just like the past month or two i've really been able to start running bro i haven't been able to run without pain in years since i'm 23 bro like and now like i'm able to use my body so much more yeah dude the stem cells helped, but the move you is what taught me how to it. You know, and now I'm waiting for this surgery to fix my shoulder. Like, I'm actually doing more of the program now to get my

body ready to go into a surgery. How long do you think you're going to do BMX for? I'll probably be riding my bike until I can't, until I die, man. Do you think there's any, is there like a, is there like a transition after? I mean, obviously, so, so the BMX that we're talking about right now is, is when you start on a big hill. And you basically go around like a motocross track. Yeah. Right. Let's look what you see in like dirt bike races, but it's on a bicycle.

Exactly. Have you ever thought about transitioning out of that into a different kind of bike racing? Dude, I'm a BMXer, man. I love being a mix. So you're stuck, you're sticking to that. I love riding bikes, dude. And like, I just love riding bikes, man. Okay.

For sure. Like, what about like the fucking downhill shit where they're in the woods and they're, like, I'll do it. Yeah. Have you ever tried it? I have did a mountain bike race before it. Dude, it was fun. Like, I love bikes. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I just love being outside, hanging out with my friends, doing anything like physically active. You know, I started BMX when I was younger and that's what got me hooked. You know, I've been doing it forever. And now, like, I have this new passion of just like, you know, the art of mastery of just like falling in love with the process of learning new, you know?

And then after coming back, like, of this new reborn self is like I never enjoyed BMX. more because before I just started BMX because I was trying to make myself look cool. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I only started BMX and continued to race BMX to make myself seem awesome and to be great and to build up this ego of mine. And then when I lost all that during those injuries, now, now I love BMX more than ever because it's not, you know, I'm not doing it to look cool, but I'm just falling in love with

the process of learning and bettering myself. Yeah. You know, it's not so much about crushing the dude next to me, but just better. during myself from yesterday. Yeah. Do you ever take any, any mushrooms or DMT? Fuck, yeah.

You do? I mean, I mean. You're talking about like the ego stuff and that everyone talks about like, I've never done DMT or mushrooms, but, uh, I'm too much of a pussy.

So I've never done DMT. Yeah. But I mean, I, you know, I had a couple of mushrooms here. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

But like, when did you start doing that? Like, was the first time you did it? Was it at what point in your, dude, dude, dude,

dude, the first time I ever did mushrooms was only like probably a year and a half ago. Really? A year ago. Yeah. Last time was last weekend. Dude, I eat a fucking weed gummy and I'm, fuck, I feel like I'm tripping on mushrooms. Oh, that's the best.

I love, I love. Dude, like, honestly, like, I never even, like, smoked weed too much up until, like, all this started happening. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then, like, you know, I first started smoking a little bit of weed and then all of a sudden, like, I started feeling my body a little bit more to it. Like, dude, I got all these tight muscles. That's where all this pain is coming from. And then, but really, like, nothing.

thing has been better than the breathing. Really? Like, because I, I can get to these higher states with my breath. We all can. Yeah. We all can get to these higher states with our breath and, like, go into such a deeper

part, get all those lights and get all that craziness just with our breath. And the consistency of doing that every single day is what helped me, you know? But, like, you know, maybe one day on mushrooms is good. Yeah. Nice glimpse of what's possible. Right. And, like, it just, I remember, like, the first time I ate mushrooms, I got to really see how the whole environment is really connected.

How much did you take? Not enough. Do you remember how many grams it was? Maybe three. Three? Yeah. Okay. I'm trying to figure out for my first time I'd do it.

You know, but I mean like there was a couple times, you know, I'll through like a gram or some of them super smoothies. Oh, yeah. Having a good day. Yeah. They talk about all people talk about microdosing, like especially like in Silicon Valley, how those guys they microdose on LSD and mushrooms. So much quicker.

because you're building all these crazy connections. Yeah. Like you're able to lower your ego and your ego just gets in the way. And it makes you think in all of this like separateness and your somebodyness, you know. But when you're on like mushrooms or even weed, it helps to diminish your ego so you can see how everything is just really one and we're all connected and we're all in this together. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like just how we have like billions of different organisms in our body.

we are just one of those billions of organisms in the earth body. Right. We're all sitting here trying to work towards the same goal of the health and the happiness of this earth and this point. You know what I'm saying? Like we just may not realize it, but we're all looking for the same thing. Yeah. We're all looking for the same thing and it's all connected. Yeah.

So it's like it's fucking sweet. That is fucking sweet, dude. You know, it's not like I'm telling you to go out there and do some mushrooms, but sometimes it helps. Dude, like, but go out there and do some mushrooms. Yeah. Like, dude, I hear people, they're using mushrooms for everything now, dude. Oh, yeah.

I'm really starting to think mushy. And I'm not talking about just psychedelics. It's legal in Colorado now, right? Dude, they're using like the psychedelic mushrooms to help with like PTSD addiction. Oh, yeah. For sure. You're able to drop your old self and to just build these new connections. But like not not just psychedelic mushrooms.

Fungus and mushroom itself is like I believe there's so much more to it than we believe. Like we're realizing that dude, the biggest living. organism that we've ever found on this planet is a microbiome like you know like a fungus network in the northwest from like you know um canada all the way down to northern california you know that whole forest yeah it's just one big microorganism of this fungi network of you know what i was talking about earlier of that microbiome and that's like they're fighting that everything is kind of like the start and the end for mushrooms right and if you look at mushrooms like in a forest it's kind of like the portal to break down what's dying to feed to the life that's coming.

Yeah. You know, and then when I take mushrooms, like even the psychedelic ones, I kind of feel like it's breaking down all that dead waste to bring room for new life in my mind. And even like the regular like portobello mushrooms that you eat, you know, they help break down the old shit in your body. You know, they help with your brain health. Yeah. I'm not talking about the psychedelics, like just the regular.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like the one's you buy the grocery store. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think mushrooms is definitely something that humans are just beginning to scratch the surface of untapping the potential of what we do. Oh, for sure. I think we can replace plastic, concrete, everything with mushrooms. You know, like everything that we're using and making that's kind of killing the planet from like what we build our houses with from like all the plastic.

Like I think if I think the technology is far like not quite there yet, but it's possible to. use like some sort of the fungus family to do everything that we need yeah because it's way more advanced than we are i did uh one of those float tank things yesterday those are yesterday for the first time ever that's sweet how was cool uh it wasn't like one of the legit float tanks it was one in st p p and it wasn't like because it wasn't one of those like round orbs they're like oh yeah it's bigger it's kind of like a big shower but it gets pitch black and they put a thousand pounds of Epsom salt in there. And I felt really great, but it was pitch black.

And I wish I would have fucking ate a weed gummy first. Dude, I ate. When I did it, I ate a big brownie and... Mm-hmm. Nothing? Well, I think it'd be better just to go on their normal. Really? Honestly.

See, I did a normal, and I felt like it could have been cooler. Do it again? Try it both. Yeah, I'm going to try it, but I'm definitely going to try them both. But it was definitely a good experience. I mean, I needed, like, the salt bath either way. Like I needed, I had so much fucking, like, like, lactic acid and shit built up in my, and me that I just needed that,

just to get those toxins out. But, um, it was definitely a cool experience. Yeah, for sure. I definitely want to try it again. Dude, and it's so cool. Like, you know, the more people are like struggling with certain things, you know, the more people are creating new opportunities to help with that. You know what I mean?

Like there's all the new things that are starting to coming and becoming more popular from float tanks, from yoga to meditation to where like, in the 90s, if you talk, about meditation you were like crazy right or who's this guy what are you like a buddhist or something right right right but now like because so many of us are struggling with these mental health issues like now meditation is getting popular it's kind of it's definitely cool now meditation and yoga's definitely gotten a lot cooler a lot more accepted in the mainstream yeah let's do it dude it should be too it's working yeah dude it's working and it's making us feel better happier healthier healthier stronger and dude the more happier healthier healthier stronger one of us is the more happier

healthy, how they're stronger we all can be. It's funny. I was having just a talk yesterday with this lady at YouTube who I talked to every once in a while, like that talks about like how to optimize like your channel or try to like, you know, help you grow your channel more and with like the content that you're creating. And she helps like strategize different shows like different like types of content that I make

or whatever and how we optimize it. And, uh, we were talking about CPMs, you know like CPMs based on like your video. So CPN's it's cost per milly. Basically it's like your ad revenue per thousand views of your content. So every thousand views you make X amount of dollars based on the amount of revenue you make from YouTube. And I was asking, like, what's the highest?

Because obviously there's different types of content that make more money because certain advertisers will target that type of content. Yeah, like, well, there's health and there's lots of different like categories. I think one of the biggest ones is like the makeup tutorials because it's so easy for those companies. And I was asking, I'm like, what's the highest paying CPM out of all the types of content that you've noticed? or like the top category that makes the highest amount of ad revenue. And she was saying that it's like personal finance gurus. People that teach finance or like teach wealth, that kind of shit. Like people that are looking to get rich.

And I was like, what the fuck? And because I have realized, I've noticed just so many people out there on, especially on the internet that are like trying to be gurus of like finance or personal wealth that, that, that. They're 21 years old living in their mama's basement. Yeah, well, not necessarily that, but they just create content about that because they know it's what the culture wants. You know what I mean? They're not doing it because that's what they're good at or that's what they've done their whole life. They're doing it. It's kind of just like a degenerative cycle of they're creating that kind of entertainment because they know it makes money and that kind of reinforces what's in the culture.

People just want it. They want to chase money. they see somebody with a fancy fucking car, I see somebody with the Lamborghini or a big house, think, oh my God, I want to be just like this person. You know what I mean?

It's like a, it's something that's in our culture right now that reflects onto the internet. People who consume their thinking and their energy with that, they get theirs. You know what I'm saying? Like, like it's kind of what we're talking about before is like,

people who consume their thinking in like, not in good alignment. If it's just out of alignment or in a place, they're miserable. You know what I'm saying? Like you, you know when something, when someone is firing on all cylinders,

they feel good, they're happy, they're nice, you know what I mean? Yeah. Nice to people. They have a good energy. Yeah,

for sure. I'm saying. Like, and those, and that's when we're going to be at our most successful as well. For sure. Yeah,

I don't know. I don't really know what the fuck I was getting at. By bringing that up. But I guess it, it's very relevant to like being lopsided in, in what you're doing. Just like you said, you could have a muscle and balance somewhere.

But if you really focus on, just fucking make. that money, getting that dollar. You know what I mean? You're going to neglect so much other important shit. It's going to bring pain. You know what I mean? In some way, it's going to bring some pain or suffering.

Yeah. If you're just pursuing the money, you know, like even if the pain is the disappointment of, because most of times if you're just pursuing the money, you'll end up either broke or miserable. You know what I'm saying? Right. But then if you align making that money with some sort of value, connecting it with your specific strengths and like how you can create that value to contribute to the world or having something that someone's going to pay for.

You know, it's obviously bringing value in some way because money is just an exchange of value. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So if you can create something with your gifts that someone actually wants to buy, that's when you're going to kind of have your cake and eat it too.

Where, you know, like the money falls into place if you just focus on bringing the value with, you know, the things that you enjoy doing are the things you care about. Yeah, definitely. tell everybody where they can like find you got a YouTube channel you make a lot of content on YouTube yeah for sure so like that other than like pushing myself pencilling physically to try to find my best self like I use most of my extra time and energy to like creating content and it's all funneled really through my website so like my my Instagram my Twitter my YouTube all of the

content that I create for that is also on my website which is www. www.thewillgrant.com but if you just want to go to YouTube or Instagram or Twitter, just type in my name, Will Grant, and I should show up. Just W-I-L-L-G-R-A-N-T. Yep. We'll find all your stuff. Yes, sir. Learn how to get better.

Learn how to eat well. Learn how to work out. Learn how to be fast. Absolutely. Let's push each other together to find our best selves and create the best world we can. I love it, dude. Well, thank you so much for doing this. Dude, thanks for having me.

Letting my audience absorb what you have to give. And let's definitely do this shit again, dude. This was awesome. Sounds good, man. Thank you so much.