Danny Jones Podcast - #313 - Exiled VICE Founder: The #1 Villain in Political Media | Gavin McInnes

Episode Date: July 5, 2025

Watch this episode FULLY UNCENSORED: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Gavin McInnes created Vice Magazine in 1994. He is also known as the "Godfather of hipsterdom". SPONSORS https://huel.com/danny - Use code DANNY for 15% off. https://square.com/go/danny - Get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off EPISODE LINKS https://censored.tv FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Mr. Death 08:29 - "Be the culture" 12:56 - Puerto Ricans in New York 16:12 - The crusade against white, straight, christian men 26:39 - The evolution of Gavin 42:42 - Disney adults 49:11 - Surfing & North Korea 53:43 - Why Gavin hates Asia & Eastern culture 01:00:31 - Adderall & testosterone 01:05:08 - Why tomboys went extinct 01:08:50 - Why Gavin got fired from VICE 01:20:29 - Working with Johnny Knoxville & Steve-O 01:26:50 - Defending Harvey Weinstein 01:38:51 - Why Gavin got completely cancelled 01:51:25 - Candace Owens 01:58:03 - Christianity vs Islam 02:01:27 - In NYC on 9/11 02:13:42 - Meth is a s*x drug 02:16:41 - Proud Boys are everywhere in Florida 02:19:13 - Why people aren't having kids 02:29:51 - Tucker Carlson 02:37:49 - Will Shane Smith & Gavin reunite? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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at the top of the description below. Enjoy the show. Is that true? Do black people think that the Holocaust didn't happen? I don't think most black people care. I don't think black people are... Probably 90% of black people have a very negative view of Jews. Really?

Well, especially Kanye. He's one of them. I actually know he just took it back the other day. I saw that you tried to talk him off the ledge. You interviewed him and tried to convince him not to be an anti-Semite. Yeah. That went great. That was a smash hit.

I couldn't get past the first 10 minutes. It's a good interview. You should watch it. It's funny. Have you ever heard? I was just talking to- Are we live? I mean, we're recording?

We're recording. Okay, this is it. This is a show. Yeah, this is a show. This is a show. There's this documentary that Hamilton Morris's dad did called Mr. Death. I don't know if you ever heard of it.

That rings the bell, yeah. It's a film about a guy who his dad worked for the Bureau of Prisons and the electric chair broke. And they needed somebody to fix the electric chair. So they told this guy's dad, like, figure out, go find some electrician to fix the electric chair so we can keep killing people or whatever. Because we don't have much time. And he took it home. And then his, like, his kid, his like teenage kid was tinkering around in the garage and, like, fixed it unbeknownst to him.

And he came downstairs. Like, dad, I fixed the electric chair. And they brought it back to the prison and it worked. And then the prison's like, oh, my God, this is amazing. we want to hire your son to fix all the electric chairs across the country. And then eventually they started hiring him to develop new ways to execute people that weren't like, because a lot of people were getting electrocuted and not dying. They were just like getting turned into vegetables.

And then he eventually invented gas chambers. Then he invented, he developed. What year is this? I don't know. You'd have to look it up. Like pre-World War II or recently? No, this is not. This is after World War II.

I want to say this is in like the 70s. Okay. I could be wrong, but it's right around there. And then he invented the lethal injection stuff and all these crazy ways of executing people. And they called him, well, the name of the documentary is Mr. Death. And eventually there's this guy, I'm sure you're familiar with him, Zundel, this guy who went to the Holocaust denier. The Holocaust denier. Yeah, yeah.

So Zundle found out about this guy and found out he was building gas chambers for the prisons and used him and convinced him to testify for him in court to prove that the gas chambers and, uh, Auschwitz and all across Germany and Poland. Really diving into it. Yeah. And convince them and use him as like an expert witness who had no training in any of this shit and just figured it out as he was going that they were, they didn't work. There's no way those gas chambers would have worked. Anyways.

So before we started the show, I was doing a joke about saying the most offensive thing possible. Yes. And using the N-word and Holocaust. But here on the live show or the real show, we're actually discussing whether the Holocaust happened or not in the first 10 seconds. Yeah, isn't that good? I think it's right on brand. I don't mind. I don't mind.

So anyways, yeah, that was a crazy documentary. You should watch it. Okay. I mean, are we now discussing the Holocaust, whether it happened or not? No, it was just an anecdotal thing. I thought you might find interesting. It's kind of a big. That's like talking about

whether your mother cheated on your dad or not. I don't think... Like, we can't just gloss over that. No, it's just an interesting, like dive into like this weirdo, this like crazy character. But it doesn't sound very weird. It sounded like he was very an accurate scientist. No, he wasn't a scientist. He just got, he just like learned.

An accurate electrical engineer. He wasn't even, he wasn't even like trained in electrical engineering. He just like he was. He taught himself. Huh. You don't want this band off YouTube? No, it won't be banned off YouTube. But your first question is, I saw this documentary about this super smart guy.

Yeah. says the Holocaust never happened. I called him smart. I don't think I called him smart. He sounds smart. You think? Yeah. Well, he was kind of an idiot because he got hoodwinked by the dundled guy. He fixed a fucking, he fixed an electric chair. Yeah, well, I mean, that's a certain kind of intelligence, right? But he also got hoodwinked by the other guy to convince him to testify. So how do you feel about the Holocaust? I mean, I don't deny the Holocaust. I'm not a Holocaust denier. The guy, how many people you think died? What, well, I don't know. What's the consensus? Six million is the general consensus. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I, this is not like my expertise or my

background. I kind of like, whatever the narrative is. That's how I feel. Yeah. It's just a weird thing to bring up at the very beginning of an interview. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm not mad. Oh, okay. But you're like, you're, it's like starting an interview with when do you think a child is really viable? You know what I mean? Like, holy shit, dude. I'm totally into any topic you want to talk about, but wow. Yeah. That's right out of the gate. Okay. What do you want to talk about? No, no, I'll talk about anything. My, my, my, my thing about Genesis. and Holocaust and is and it's not a very popular subject but I don't really care. Like Mao killed 80 million.

Right. So like Ernst Sandel is really into going to Auschwitz and checking like the Zeichlon B and all this stuff. Right. So okay, you're the you're the guy. Right. So me like getting into Mao's Great Leap Forward and the 80 million that were killed, like I'd have to go like. with a Chinese translator and go through all these things. And that's a valid thing to do.

You should question all of these horrific mass murders like Pol Pot, Cambodia and all this stuff. Yeah. I don't have the time. I mean, I'm so concerned with today. Yes. And the massive corruption that goes on. And the rewriting of history, like from last week. Like, we're told that the media had no idea Biden was retarded.

until three days ago. Right. And you go, no, that's not true. So I'm definitely open to investigating the Holocaust, investigating Pol Pot, investigating the Armenian genocide, investigating all of these horrific genocides. Definitely, sure.

If I have extra time, I'm definitely going to get to that. But within the short amount of time I have every day, I'd like to investigate the media's lies about Joe Biden one hour ago. Uh-huh. And then spread backwards from there. See, I'm kind of the opposite. I kind of don't give a fuck what's going on in the media today that much. Really?

Yeah, no. That's an interesting take. I feel like... What's that blue shit in your mouth? What is that? Oh, it's this stuff. It's called methylene blue. Is that one of your sponsors?

No, no, no. They don't sponsor me, but it's a blue gene dye. As one does? Yeah. Ingests blue gene dye. Yeah, or it could be fish tank cleaner as well. Okay. All right.

What was I going to say? So you don't care about what's going on the news right now. Not that I don't care. I'm just not as interested because it just feels like some, it just feels like a big distraction to keep, don't you feel that way sometimes that like all the bullshit that you see and all like the 30 second clips on all the news media websites and all the little podcast clips that come out about Biden this,

Kamala that, Trump this, blah, blah, blah. Like none of any, like it's just like, wash your hands and repeat tomorrow the next thing. Like we forgot about Trump getting almost assassinated as soon as the Olympic thing. came out with all the fat trannies jumping around. Oh, I didn't forget, motherfuck. You didn't forget, but most people, dude.

That's in my front of lobe. Don't you think, though, that some of this cultural stuff, this culture war stuff that's happening every single day is just purposely to keep us divided so that whoever is at the top can control us? Well, it better not be, or I'm out of a job. But my job is to talk about modern culture war shit and how it applies to everything,

around us. And I mean, you're making me doubt myself and maybe I should retire. But I, I think that this is the most important modern culture in the history of America. I mean, that's sort of the Civil War in recent history. Like if Trump didn't win, we were toast. And the fact that Trump won is huge. And now that he's winning, I want to like shine a spotlight on the fact that like we got the Panama Canal back. This is a big deal. I want to shine a spotlight on detransitioners. These kids who are like,

why did you tell me to cut my off? I shouldn't have done that. Now, as far as like their Armenian genocide, yeah, how many people died in the Armenian genocide? Definitely. Let's check that out at some point. But right now, I want you to know that, you know,

schools are still woke. People are still getting canceled. We still haven't won the culture wars. And as Andrew Breitbart said, politics is downstream from the culture. So I want to, I want to get, I keep saying on my show,

be the culture. Like if someone is at the airport in a wheelchair and they can walk, go, you can walk or at a bar. Did you tip? Like, and my wife gets so,

I hate these things. Go play a video. We'll, let's, all right, yeah, we'll take them off. But my wife goes like, what are you doing? Why are you getting involved?

You're causing a scene. I go, I'm a patriarch. This is a patriarchy. This is my society. So this guy sitting in the wheelchair who isn't paralyzed is my problem. That's my wheelchair. And I was in an argument.

Was this on the Disney cruise you saw this? That's a different thing. Okay. We'll get to that. But there was these skells at my local bar. What's that? Skells is like a crackhead loser, junkie piece of shit.

shit, black guy and his fat white girlfriend. And they come in and they want to plug in their phones. And they ask for a water. And I go, no, you're not getting a water. And you're not plugging your phones. And the barmaid is like, this isn't your bar, Gavin. And they go, is it really not my bar? Like, this is my bar I come to.

Is your church not your church? This is your church. Right. Say someone is like, I don't know, spray painting, you f*** on your street. That's my street. You're not going to spray paint that on my street. So it's my street, it's my bar, it's my church, and it's my airport.

Like, I'm in Western society. So you're in a wheelchair in my airport. So be the culture, get involved today. Now, the fact that you seem more interested in the past, I totally respect that. We need historians. But personally, my obsession these days has been like, what are you doing? Why are you wearing crocks and pajamas at the... airport and the drunk where I get the more I confront them and that's not good because I'm

going to get stabbed you've been knocked out haven't you like you got knocked out during a uh what was that what was that I was doing a pilot called uh the immersionist it's a it's a word I invented that's not very sexy but I'm like if you're doing journalism don't sit at your desk Googling like go live with them go go be them in fact I saw you have Thomas Morton on your eraser board Yeah, because we wanted to get him on the show. So he took my concept and made it his career. How done? Well, when he started advice, he was a very high IQ intern that I knew was good, but had zero testosterone.

But I was willing to do anything. He'd fight Mike Tyson. That's why we call him baby balls, because he had a bottle of ketchup. He was going to smash on his head. And everyone was like putting down money to do it. And I'm like, dude, can stop. Like, the glass on a ketchup bottle is like an inch thick. You're going to cut your, you're not just going to like get a bloody head.

You're going to cut your facial muscles. And you're going to be Jean Crechan, the Prime Minister of Canada. You're going to look like the Nazis, the dueling stars. Yeah, you're going to be like, they made me smash a bottle of ketchup on my head. And I'm like, stop, dude. And he was, I had to hold the ketchup bottle. and then this dude Trevor Simser Andrew W.K's manager goes,

that guy's got balls. He's little, but he's got balls. He's baby balls. So he became baby balls forever. But what I did with baby balls, I was like, all right, like Puerto Ricans in New York, major part of New York. Yeah. Us upper middle class whites don't really know them. Although I do know, I don't know how raunchy we can get in this show,

but you can get as raunchy as you want, we'll probably sound like. The same guy Trevor and his buddy Mark Ryan, they were like, how come we lived in New York for like 20 years? No one's ever f***ed a Puerto Rican. And they go, let's start fucking Puerto Ricans. So they go up to them on the train.

And they're like, hi, my name is Trevor. Hi, my name is Mark. What's your name? And like, oh, I'm fucking Maria. What's up? And then they cross streams where these cultures weren't meant to be together. So Mark is fucking one of them. And he feels.

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And she's like this. And he goes, holy shit. And he goes back to work. Yeah. But he's like, I just found a condom in there. And she goes, I know, that's bugged out, right? And I'm like, all right, we're not meant to be together. We're very different.

So when Baby Ball started advice, I go, let's live with these people. So we set up a thing where he lived with like a Puerto Rican family in the project. They might have been Dominican. Same different. Thomas, a little blacker. Yeah. And, you know, it was a real. really cool expose on how different these cultures are.

Like one thing they do is they don't want roaches. So when they have a pizza, they put it in the sink. And then they soak it and then they roll it into a tube and put it in the garbage. Some junkie uncle was there sleeping all day. Anyway, baby balls went on to have a pretty good career as an immersionist. And I think that's an important part of like modern culture is like, what are you guys doing? Yeah. And we don't do that anymore.

We don't know anything about each other, which is why you have this woman where white woman, like, watch these movies where there's a bunch of clansmen who were like, lookie here, boys. This black lady thinks she could be a scientist. Not on my watch.

Meanwhile, if there's a black woman that want to be a scientist, everyone would be fucking off, like, come on in, come on in. Do I sound crazy right now? Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about right now. Okay, so white women watch. like to watch? White women like to watch movies and commercials where black, where black women are geniuses and white men are complete fucking idiots. Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. Yeah,

like can't put the furniture together and the black woman comes in and she's like, it's called an alley key, moron. Right. And then that's in their sitcoms and in their soap operas and in their movies. Yeah, that's how they, that's how they try to make Hollywood diverse, right? Like sinners. The new movie sinners. It's these magical, Negroes who work with vampires and then the KKK is like, not on my watch, boy. Hmm. Which may have been true at some point, but it's not who we are.

Yeah. Did you watch any of the Super Bowl commercials last year? There were some interesting ones. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure I did. There was the one with Tom Brady and who else was it? It was like an Israeli commercial. It was paid for by Israel, wasn't it? Are we going back to the Holocaust again?

Is this like an anti-Semitic hit piece? No, no, it's not anti-Semitic. What was this commercial? Yeah, play it. What was this? I could be wrong. I might just be projecting my own. With Vince Vaughn.

Yeah, that's it. That's it. No, maybe that's not it. That's it with, yeah, this is it right here. The no hate one. Play this one. I hate hate hate hate. Have you seen this?

Hate is one of my pepaves. Have you seen this right here? That's this commercial? I don't know. Play it for him. I hate you because. me from different neighborhoods. I hate you because you look different. I hate you because I don't

understand you. I hate you because people I know hate you. Wait, can we just pause it here? Yeah, pause it. So Snoop Dogg is from Compton. Yes. Everyone in his community hates everyone else for being from the wrong neighborhood.

Chinese, even probably different black neighborhoods. Right. So he's mocking that culture. That's his culture. Tom Hardy Tom Brady. Tom Brady, sorry. His neighborhood

master the concept of any other neighborhood giving a fuck about them. And they would love, like if they went to Harlem and they got high five, they would ejaculate in their pants. So this is such

whore shit. Snoop Dog is lampooning this fictional black dude who is him. And Tom Brady is lampooning this dude who's not even remotely close to him. That's the thing

that drives me nuts about this crusade against like Christian white heterosexual males, we need to expose their racism because it's latent. I've known a lot of different demographics over the years. They're the least racist group I've ever come across

in my life. Maybe to a fault. But like this guy and all his friends if a black dude showed up to a party I mean, he might get, it'd be like the Beatles in 1950. Like he might have his clothes ripped off. But then

he's like, I don't like blacks. They totally suck, dude. Finish? Finish playing it? I want to see what the, go to the end of it. Because I need someone to blame. Because you talk different. Because you act different. Because you're just different. You're as stupid as they said. Man, I hate the things are so bad. What's on your head?

You're a commercial about it. Stand up to hate. Look, paid for it by the foundation to combat anti-Semitism. Okay, that's why I was right. I'm not crazy. Take your head. Retarded. You know, the problem with these ADL SPLC things. It's like,

they give Jews a really bad name. And if I was in charge of Jews, I'd be like, all right, first of all, ADL's abolished, SBLC's abolished. Like, Yay says the Jews control the banks.

And they freeze his bank accounts. Right. If I was in control of Jewish PR, I'd be like, guys, let him rant. Yeah, let him run.

Enjoy it. Yeah. We're validating everything. He says, I remember who's that guy, he was Sid, vicious and Sid and Nancy, but he was in a playboy interview, a British guy. And he was like, you know, if I said the Jews control Hollywood, I'll be forced to apologize the next day.

He was severely canceled the next day and forced to apologize to the ADL. Okay, well, you just proved his point, guys. Chill out. Meanwhile, as a white man, we are defecated upon every day. And we just go, me. As dads, we're defecated upon every day. We go, man. Where do you live right now? In Westchester. A suburb of New York, about 40 minutes.

You lived in New York for how long? 20 years. For 20 years. Yeah. I wonder if that's, like, why do you feel like that? You feel like you're with a white man, the white Christian man's being shit on. Wait.

So, hold on. You start this whole thing about how the Holocaust didn't happen. I didn't say the Holocaust didn't happen. I was a super right-wing dude. And now you're like, why you're so obsessed with white dudes? Yeah. Are you like a, Are you like a left-wing anti-Semite?

No, I'm not an anti-Semite. Where do I peg you? I don't think you can argue that if you watch commercials, that white Christian heterosexual males are the whipping post of modern. I don't, I don't see that. Maybe it's because I live in Florida. Are you doing it like a character? No, are you doing a character?

No. You're the guy. Pull up a, dude, go to live TV right now. I don't watch live TV. Maybe that's why. And there'll be some buffoon, white guy trying to assemble an IKEA table while a black woman is like, okay. Didn't Trump just put somebody in his cabinet that's like in charge of like bolstering Christianity in America? Yeah, an hour ago.

That's like a hour ago. It was like at least a month and a half ago. Oh, I'm sorry, a month and a half ago. Isn't that good for white Christian people? No, it's that bad. I think that here's the analogy I was used. in my home, in my homestead, I don't even know what that word means.

Does that mean like a commune in your own house? I don't know what homestead means. If my children were to fart on my wife, they'd be in big trouble. You don't fart on mom. Right. If you fart on me, it's funny. Right.

You got me. That was super stinky. Oh, geez. Yeah. Because I can take it. My wife is the woman of the house and she's, I don't know, she's not tough. So you can't punch her.

You can punch me. We can do a thing. You can punch me three times. I punch you once. My wife would never sit there with our kids being like, okay, you punch me three times. I punch you once. Right.

So I think that's indicative of a patriarchy and it's indicative of modern society where I think we're buttholes on all commercials and in geopolitics and everything else because we can take it. And we're like, okay, yeah, yeah. I get it. And here's, I'm off of a tangent now,

but here's something I'm noticed with comedy. They want to be controversial. They can't be racist. They can't mock Judaism. They can't mock Islam. They can sort of mock Christianity, but that's bad for business. So they tend to make really inappropriate

child sex jokes. Which I'm fine with if that's your thing. You're like the controversial show. But you've got to spread it out with like racism and other very controversial things. But if you watch like SNL, the only time they get dangerous

is like an insestuous mother who's in love with her 20-year-old son. And it ends up being this imbalance where kids are the only people we can fuck with. And that's gross. If you're going to do controversial comedy, you've got to spread the diarrhea around on every religious group,

old people, Ageism, sexism, homophobia, like, you guys spread it all around. But the way it's going these days is it's just like, oh, what a fuck a kid? Which, okay. Really? I've never seen any comedy like that. Oh, yeah. I mean, I haven't been around comedy as long as you have, but I've watched a lot of comedy specials.

It's been to a lot of comedy shows. But like... There's an example. S&L had this, like, quizy game show. I'm sure you could find. And it was like the newlyweds game type of show. Okay. And it's, that was big in the 80s.

Like, what's the craziest place? you and your husband ever made whoopee. They called it whoopee back then. And one of the women was like, in the bum? And everyone was like, what the fuck? We met a crazy location, bitch. So they were kind of parroting that. And it was the couples were all weird, but they were, you know, normal.

And then one of the couples was a mother and her son. And her son was like, I don't know, 19 in the sketch. Very gross, very weird. But you're like, okay, I'm watching the. gross weird comedy show. I can handle that. But the next joke better be the most racist shit I've ever seen. And the next joke might be the most

anti-Semitic shit I've ever seen. But they're too scared of those. So now when you see controversial comedy, it's just like kid's shit. Huh. Which is disgusting. Out of context. Why do you think that is?

Because kids can't fight back. Really? Yeah. If you make fun of Jews, you're going to get the ADL and the FNSBL. You make fun of Muslims. You're going to get the, Muslim Brotherhood, make fun of blacks, you're going to get BLM. There's going to be riots on the street.

Everyone's going to get fired. Make fun of kids, they're at school. They just suffer. And that's the sign of a declining society when you pray on the week. So what seems like a throwaway joke is actually a harbinger of the apocalypse. At what point did you transition from. male to female? I told you that was a secret.

I asked you not to bring it up on the show. I'm sorry. Well, you betrayed us and you betrayed our NDA. Yes. What I was going to ask was at what point did you transition into this guy, this clean cut guy with the mustache and the combed hair that talks about all this stuff all the time. I mean, like, I never changed.

I never changed. Let me kind of give some context. I watched the Thomas Morton documentary. that he made. And it was fascinating. I don't want to like say that. I thought what he did was... Hold that thought. I got a piss. Really broke the seal hard.

Yeah, you did. We got to get you a bucket to sit next to you. If you want to get like five solo cups, I'm fine with that too. Okay. So you saw, it's not funny anymore? Yeah, I watched this documentary. I had to get a VPN and like, go like sign up for this weird platform and I had to lie about my address being in Canada, but I was able to watch it. Are you Canadian? No.

Oh, right. Dumb question. Oh, that's cool. You still got your vice ring. No, I don't. Does it not say vice on it? It says hate. Hate.

Wow. It's the same style as the vice rings. Yeah, that was my idea. That was my shit with rings. I'd get fights in New York and brass knuckles sent you to jail and I didn't have my citizenship that. I was worried about being deported.

If you wear rings, you can fight all night. And if you get these Puerto Rican-style things with the hard edges, you're going to rip someone's Oh yeah, that would not be good. I'm actually not supposed to say that on air. Oh. Because they could say you knew that those rings would do damage. But do you want me to remove it or can I keep it in?

All right, cool. But it seems like he went and he interviewed all of your friends, all of your like childhood friends. Yeah. All these former people that were awesome and I was too. I mean, no one really had anything really bad to say about it. Right. Because I am a good guy. They were all just kind of fascinated by your, this evolution.

of you going from like the early crazy guy, Vice days swinging your dick around the office and doing Coke to like this crazy right wing no I would deny that though. They weren't fascinated by that. Anyone who knows me knows that there wasn't a change. This is the problem with these, like, when he did that documentary,

he showed me these cards. And it was like, I saw that guy on. Why did you become a Nazi? Were you beaten? Did you fall down the stairs? Did you see some documentary? And I'm like, wait a minute.

the problem is your hypothesis. It's like me doing a documentary on why you became gay. And I'm like, what happened? And I have all these theories like you saw a musical, you got involved in ballet, you listened to disco,

and you're like, these are all great theories. I'm not gay. So when he showed me all those, I go, dude, I thought you had a high IQ. Your hypothesis is wrong. Yeah. And the media's perception is that I went, right?

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Johnny Ramon said, Kill a Kami for Mommy. You know, Fear had a big, like, American Eagle on their records. Gangrene were all about Budweiser. No, like the meat men. The early punk people were like liberal. And this is 80s. Like the meat men were like, I'm glad I'm not a girl. They have to sit down to pee. the forgotten rebels, bomb the boats, feed the fish. Now,

obviously, punk was definitely left-leaning, but there was a, you could be weird and controversial and laughing. I used to wear a shirt that said,

speak English, and it had a little American flag there. And I would hang out with David Cross and like all these Patton Oswald and John Benjamin

and Todd Barry, and they were all like, oh, that's Gavin and his kooky. I just, screw driver belt buckle. And David Cross would say, where'd you get that? Like, he wanted one. Now, I'm obviously not a fan

of screwdriver, but it was just like, it was sort of like the punks in the 70s having swastikas or Gigi-L or something. I don't think anybody listening to this will even know anything about screwdriver, which is funny. They were a super offensive, like, white power Nazi band. So you're just

like... I got something to say. For example, Robert Crum, he did this comic called... And you could... I'll censor myself, but when the fucking ends take over the world. And he did another three-page comic called

When the God-Bes Take Over the World. And they were both, one was a parody of racism, the other was a parody of anti-Semitism. But there was a picture of like these blacks that he drew and it was like, you see these ends? They fucking hate you. So I put that on a T-shirt

with screwdriver on it. And it was like the most offensive shit you could have. It's obviously not serious, right? And then with Trump, the nuance was gone. And there was no, there was no way to joke around anymore. And they kicked us out of culture. The nuanced right was kicked out of culture in 2015.

And when I say the nuanced right, I mean, anyone who would dare even look into that shit. We weren't deaf. It's not like we were real Rush Limbaugh, Papi Cannon guys, but we were interested in Rush Limbaugh and Papi Cannon. Let's check it out. And there was a whole, there was a, there was a spectrum. That's what I should say. The spectrum died with cheap. And they were like, you're 100% with us, 100% against us.

All of you for you. And it was such a weird time. Like this dude, John Glazer, we were best friends, not best friends, but our families who'd go on vacation together. He's a comedy writer guy. And our thing, me and him, was women are inept at loading the dishwasher. It's mind-blowing. Every time I load the dishwasher, it looks like a commercial for dishwashers.

Boals, plates. And I look at my wife and she's just like plopping a bowl upright, like on the top shelf. Honey, that's just going to load with water. It's not getting washed. Really? Yeah. You've never seen a woman load a dishwasher? My wife loves a dishwasher great.

You're wrong. I'm not wrong. She does. When she's a dude. Have you seen her genitalia? My problem with the dishwasher is it doesn't clean shit. Yeah, I agree with you 100%. And that it takes, my dishwasher

is two hours. Really? Yes, it's two hours because of Biden is, not Biden, just, but like this modern shit with like eco stuff. I have an 80s house and I have a bar in the basement. The dishwasher is from the 80s. Dude,

you could put, I don't know, King Tuts fucking, you could put his coffin in there and it would come out sparkling bright because they boil up the water. Anyway, we're off of a tangent here. But anyway, I would get back and forth with John about

dishwasher shit. You know you have certain friends like Lily Gaddis on our site? We send each other pictures of people at airports wearing pajamas and crocs. That's our entire text. There's no other discussion. You know, you lock in with someone and you're like, that's my guy. Like you have a friend

in Ireland and you're like, Ireland had another African kill an old couple and you don't send him anything like, I'm feeling upset, but I don't feel like wife loves me anymore. That's a different texting. Yeah. So John sent me a text that was like, hey man, I think you know, you knew this was coming, but obviously I have an awesome dishwasher picture to send you, but I can't because you know what's coming. And I'm like, what's coming? And he goes, Trump, because he knew I supported Trump. And 2015, 2016 was this crazy split that was untrue that was

unprecedented. Like, when we were kids, when I was a kid in the 70s, you had no fucking clue who your neighbor voted for. Right. And then all of a sudden, it was 100% with us,

100% against us. Yeah. And then they had to explain why Gavin is no longer our friend. And I'm not the only Gavin, by the way. There's probably 50 million, no, there's probably 150 million

Gavin's in this analogy. But they go, uh, yeah, he, he joined the Nazi called. He's a racist. And then instead of going, really, aren't his kids like Native American?

They go, no, let's find out why he's a racist. And Thomas Soll talked about this. He goes, you can go from a liberal to a conservative without changing your views when the media's narrative shifts. Yes. And I'm a socially liberal, fiscally conservative, libertarian for strong borders.

That was Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton in 2004. That was Barack Obama in 2004. It's also normal Archie Bunker dad politics. Like, do you want your dad to be pro-trans? That's gay. That is pretty gay. Yeah. Why your dad was like, don't hurt trans kids?

What's that quote? I think I heard you say this quote, which I love, it said if you're not a liberal... I'm going to butcher it. You can probably say it better. Churchill pushed it a lot. I don't know if you meant it. If you're not...

If you're not... If you're not a conservative, no, if you're not a liberal, I think he said socialists. If you're not a socialist when you're young, you have no heart. Right. And if you're not a conservative when you're old, you have no brain. I mean, a conservative is just a liberal who got mugged. And if you ever start making money, which I assume you are, this escape from New York set, you've got to be a conservative because you can get your check and you see how much the government took.

And you go, what the fuck? Right. And then you go, okay, well, the roads are going to be like a skate park when I go outside. No, the roads are in Iraq. Oh, the education is going to be mind-blowing. My kids are going to be Benjamin Franklin. No, your kids don't know who Benjamin Franklin is. They're reading a George Takai graphic novel about internment camps.

Okay, well, what am I getting for my fucking money? Pete Buttigig blowing up train tracks with toxic chemicals? CIA operations in the Ukraine. I'm open to socialism if the money goes where I want it to go. If you could pick where your taxes go. Like they always brag about Northern Europe. I might be a socialist in Finland.

I was in Boston recently, and I hadn't been there in years, and I was at a bar, and everyone was white and everything was organized. There was no scales. There's no crackheads around. And I go, oh, I get why they're so left wing up here. Because they don't see the scammers and the junkies and the EBT cards at strip clubs

and the constant violence against police. Yeah. So they're like, we need to be more generous. Yeah, it's like that in Denmark too. Where they like, I think even the women and the maternity leave in Denmark is like a year and a half or something insane. Sounds great.

And they pay them. I think they pay moms. Like, if you have a kid, they just like pay you like an extra five grand a mom. It's ridiculous. I hate that shit too because you're comparing apples and oranges. Like America has,

it had 30 million illegals before Biden. I think it has 40 now, right? You're probably right about that. He led in 12 million, more than Ellis Island in his total 80 year history. We also have this insane, very unique obesity problem.

Yeah. All the poor people are obese. Isn't that strange? Yeah, our poor eat too much, as John Stossel said. That's our biggest problem is our poor eat too much. And they eat garbage.

You go to Disneyland and it's just spheres everywhere. Human spheres. So... Driving around in those little carts. Dude, talk to a surgeon, man. They don't know what to do with these fucking pigs. Like...

My dad... My dad is a drunk and he was like fixing some branch at like three in the morning with a chainsaw. And he's like, this is dangerous. So I'll put on three hats. Right. Because there's nothing safer than three wool hats. And I'll put on two jackets in case I get hit.

So he was like tying up branches. And he actually ended up making a Gavin's Dad killing machine where when he finally released the branches, it went whack! And it sent him flying through the air and his ladder. He landed, he broke his back in 15 places. Jesus Christ. Yeah, it was rough. You wore a turtle shelf for like a year.

But they went in there, they fixed them all with pins. Yeah. And the surgeon goes, I got to say, man, my dad's skinny because drunks don't eat. Because what don't eat? Drunks don't eat. In fact, they starve to death. But we still, we try to get them Chinese food. What's the difference between a drunk and alcoholic?

Great question. I think it's, I think drunks are funny. Alcoholics are sad. Right. And an alcoholic is like at the bar at nine. A drunk is at the bar at three. Right. And usually the drunks don't go to meetings either.

No. So the surgeon goes, I got to say, man, this is what we went to medical school for. Like, you cut open this? skin and the spines right there. These tubs of shit, you cut open the belly and just goes, blah. And so you fix what you got to fix. You have all this yellow fat.

You close it. There's this vacuum trying to open it back up again. So they rip the sutures up constantly. Yeah, yeah. Because there's this like opening here. You can't stitch fat. Right. So don't tell me about Denmark.

Don't tell me about Medicare. Don't tell me about even England, where there's still plenty of fatties. We are unlike any other country in the world. We were built on guns and violence. We took over the most powerful, you know, empire in the world at the time. And you're like, well, actually in Finland, you know, they get paid into oranges. Okay, that sounds nice. We're not doing that here.

Actually, there's a train in Beijing. that can get you to Shanghai in an hour. Okay. We got cars here, dude. We're pioneers. Yeah. I want to hear more about your Disney cruise. Where was that cruise?

Oh, my God. Don't get me started. Did you see a lot of these fatties on your Disney cruise? And also, do the people, are you aware of, like, there's these people that are influencers, and all they do is go to Disneyland, and they teach you how to go to Disney. Yeah. And they're full-blown adults. I saw a video an hour ago about some new park, epic universal or something, and there's all these

adults. like 40 years old running and screaming. It's because, okay, just to go back a little bit, Harris, what's his name on InfoWorse was talking about this? Asians, liberal women, blacks, gays. If we only let them vote, everything would be blue. The only place that would turn America red is white males. So let's make everything against white males.

And part of that is don't breed. And when they say don't breed, blacks and Hispanics don't listen. of that, right? So when you see, don't breed, white women hear it. And they're like, okay, done. So you have this paternal instinct. So you like, you become a fur mom and you, you adopt rescues. But you also become obsessed with Disney. Because it's like a fake mommy thing where, I don't know, your husband's your baby. I don't know who the kid is in this scenario, but it's, you are. So it's a disgusting, sad culture that's pathetic and embarrassing. It's why I started the Prout Boys, actually. Oh, really? Because our producer, your guy,

was 23, a virgin. He went to Disneyland with his friends, didn't get wasted, and didn't fuck anyone. And I'm like, I'm okay going to Disneyland if you're in the butthole surfers and you guys do LSD, and it's ironic, but this was not ironic. So anyway,

my Disney story is, yes, tons of fatties on the cruise. The thing about cruise people is they're not adventurous. You'll have to stop me because I have nine hours on Disney cruises. Oh, really? Okay. But they're on these like rascals.

There's a one part of the hallway there's like a chart that shows you where you are on the cruise. The fatties, that's their elephant's graveyard. They pilgrimage over there, and then they just look at the chart of where they are. You know when you're on a plane? You can see where the plane is.

You look at it for like four seconds. Okay, we're near Ireland. Anyway, back to my movie. They're just like, that's so fucking insane. Yeah, it's a floating shopping mall. And you've got to understand, like travel is semi-adventurous. If you're on a cruise, you're not an adventurous person. So you're not social.

So at one point, the lawn chairs are all touching. So I'm about to get in bed with two men. Like our shoulders might even physically touch. So I got to say something. and I throw up my towel. I don't even know why I'm doing this. And I'm like, all righty, here we go. And the guys don't go like getting kind of too close for comfort or some little dumb joke or come on in.

The water is fine or some dumb. Yeah. They don't do clips. Yeah, break the ice. They just stay like this. Like I had facial tattoos. And I do have a lot of tattoos. So, okay, let's take me out of the equation.

So my wife's at the bar and this woman's getting a drink and it's like three o'clock. and she goes, I'll get a margarita. And my wife's behind her. And we're trying to socialize a little bit. I didn't have my third kid. I had a four-year-old and a two-year-old. So she gets some margarita. And then my wife does super generic social shit.

Where she goes, that's five o'clock somewhere. And the woman goes, like, put the camera on me. The woman goes, like, I'm like, did we rip Mickey Mouse? And I wasn't told about it. Brutal. And the cabin is, you're on an ocean all night. Really? The only way I could sleep is I pretended I was a billionaire and I was on my own private jet where, yeah, it's pretty loud.

I'm going over Dubai. So the only people I could talk to were the staff. So that's why I feel so comfortable here because I was in the gallows. Because my wife goes to bed early. She's a squaw doesn't drink. Right. But so like nine o'clock I've no one to hang out with. And the fucking nerd Gen Xers are, I don't know, playing shuffleboard and drinking peanut colladas.

So I just hung out with the staff the whole time. That's so funny. And do not go on a cruise. No, cruises suck balls. You don't want to go on, you don't want to travel or go anywhere. Like the best part about traveling is getting in weird situations where you might die. Thank you. I think.

And even with a family. the best part of traveling is like finding a weird place. Like in St. Martin, there's this beach. It's all French people. And they serve like cheeseburgers and beer. And the kids can play on the beach. And no one knows about it. And that's your little, you know, your hidden spot.

Right, right. That's fun. Going somewhere in a car where you're driving on the wrong side of the road and you pull up to some weird beach cutout where there's a guy in a car here, you're not sure if he's going to kill or mug you. Thank you. That's the excitement. Exactly.

You're not going to get that on a cruise ship. Get your hair braided, maybe. If you go on a cruise ship, you're a loser. Sorry. It's a mall. It is. And now it's a fucking ghetto mall. Oh, really?

So, yeah, they've gotten way worse. I think they got destroyed by COVID to lower their prices. And now it's just the hood. So don't do that. Where did your cruise go? Like, where was it? Where was it out of? It went through the Caribbean.

You know, Trinidad, Tobago. St. Martin. We actually we stopped at St. Martin and we went to some weird little, like, working class French shit hole with the cheeseburgers. And the beach went on for hours and I'm like, we have to get back on the cruise. So we

like made a note and then we went on a vacation the next year and we just went there. St. Martin is awesome. I love St. Martin. Yeah. It's great. St. Martin is right. Jamaica is so dangerous that when you go somewhere, it's razor-wired in and you're in like a

little aquarium. Yeah. But St. Martin is open. It's the best place in the Caribbean. I used to do a ton of traveling through the Caribbean and all around like South America to film surfing. Oh, really? Do you surf? Yeah. Well, not as much as I used to.

Surfing is not possible. It's not possible. It's a myth. I'm like a flat earther with surfing. Oh, really? It's fake. What do you mean by that? I try to, it can't.

Those guys must be CGIed. Because you get out to the waves. And by the time you get to the spot, your arms are Grover spaghetti. Right. And now you have to be stronger than ever. Yes. Because you have to ride with the wave.

Right. I'm toast. I just did 750 push-ups. Yeah, it's fucking brutal. Those guys, what the fuck is going on? It's insane. Yeah, it's a different kind of cardio that you build over a long time. Holy shit.

It's like hockey. It's fucking insane. You play for four minutes and you start puking your guts out. Yeah, yeah. That's literally like it's the most hardcore cardio you've ever done for like, you probably spend. If you go out surfing in like big waves for two, three hours, you're spending maybe 10 minutes out of that three hours surfing. They have no upper body strength.

How do they get out there? Women? A skit. A skis. Yeah, it's weird. There's a little kid. I've been like, go to pipeline in Hawaii, which is like the most dangerous wave in the world. And you're surfing over a razor sharp reef that's like that far under the wave.

It's not real. And there's like eight year olds out there surfing that shit. It's crazy. It's Grock. Rock made them. They're not doing it. It's not possible. And it's funny.

One of the guys I used to film with, he's how I discovered Vice because he got a job with Vice. What year was that? Do you mean Jake? No, Jerry. Oh, shit. Do you want to know Jerry? No. He was good friends with Jake.

Oh, you know Jake. I don't know personally, but I know who he is. Great guy. You know what I love about Jake? And it's an inspiration for all dads everywhere. his dad was like a Jeff Spacoli guy and he would go to his school and be like Jake's got a dentist appointment

and they're like really I don't have that on the files here he's like yeah it's really bad he's got like cavities and shit so I'd be like Jake your Jeff McCulley dad is taking to the dentist and he'd be like he knew what it was and he'd get in the fucking truck surfboards in the back

and him and his dad would just shred all day that's fucking awesome and I'm like I want to be like that I want to be like Jake's dad so Jerry I think I think went with Jake to North Korea to film that North Korea thing and a bunch of their stuff

That bullshit thing Jerry filmed the whole noisy I don't know how much you followed it after you left But that was all after you left I discovered it after I think you left You left in like 2008 2008 North Korea was like around my time That was around your time Yeah

First some very dubious things about that Like you gotta understand You can't bribe your way to North Korea. It's not like Morocco. Right. So if you filmed anything in North Korea, you were allowed to film it. There's no way to do

North Korea edgy. It's like doing a Soviet Union edgy in fucking 1985. Like, it's just, it's, that's not what happened. And there's no hidden camera shit. But they, so they got in there with Dennis Rodman. He got him in, right? Yeah, that

was all fake too. Like that was, not fake, but that was all sanctioned, I should say. Right. They were like, Dennis was like their tour guide and they gave him a tour through. Well, they'd already been, I think. So it was the second time was with Dennis Rodman. Oh, really? Yeah, that intellectual Dennis Rodman. Yeah. He's a funny guy. I don't know. They really botched that, I think, as far as I'm concerned. Yeah.

How long do you think it took for Vice to start going downhill after you left? Well, here's the beauty of that. I want the narrative to be, they got rid of Gavin and they went bankrupt. but it was the opposite. Yeah. But here's the thing. The way history is written, they did insanely good for 15 years. But over time, that 15 years is going to compress.

And it'll be like, God were to give and they went broke. Not true, but that's the way history works these days. So I think they were really good after I left for at least five years. which I did not like. That made me very upset. I wanted them to bomb the next day. But it's also not what I'm interested in. I fucking hate traveling.

I'm a Western chauvinist. Really? I hate all. Didn't you live in Thailand? I lived in Taiwan. Taiwan. And I can hate China. I hate Taiwan.

I hate Eastern culture. I hate them all. Right. Like deeply, I deeply hate them. Why so deep of a hatred? They're just not us. Did that develop when you were living in? Taiwan.

Sure, maybe, yeah. Here's my new thing. This is a new thing I have this week. I hate closeted f***es. Why do you hate closeted? It's 2025. Why are you lying? It's like lying about being circumcised at this point.

Like, why are you wasting my fucking time? My uncle was a closet of who died in the closet. And I realized I never really knew him. Like, he would be very gregarious when he was drunk. But outside of that, he'd be like, stracking the straight guy. And I'm like, okay, well, I never got to know you, face. And I used to spend the summers in Scotland.

So, like, we had thousands of hours just flush down the toilet because you're scared to be gay. And I totally get being scared to be gay in the 50s. Gotcha. 80s, 90s, 2000s? Right. Fuck off. You don't have to be scared to be gay now nowadays.

You have to be scared to me not be gay if you're in school. If you're 11 and you're like, I think I like girls. You're going to go through conversion therapy. Yeah, not in Florida, maybe in New York. We'll show you pictures of d'i, until you like it. So, yeah, duplicitous people piss me off. It's not like that down here. That's why I'm a Western chauvinist, because Western culture is like,

especially like Northeast American culture is like, what the fuck is on your face? On my face? No, no, that's how they talk. So you had a big wart there? Yeah, yeah. I'd be like, dude, what? Can you not like freeze that or what is that?

Like put a dental flosser around it and it'll fall off. or something. Like we say what's on our mind. And, you know, Europeans aren't really like that, but Eastern people are just not like that. And I hate it. Well, that's more like New York culture. It's not really like all of America, right? Like the West Coast, they're like, they're weird, disingenuous, all about being. Yeah, that's a bastardized version of us. I don't know what happened there. New York is more like we can make fun of anybody. We'll shit on you and laugh at it. Right. Like Joe Rogan says, it's like women and men. Men will talk shit about you to your face, and then behind your back, say you're the greatest guy that ever lived.

Yes. Women will flatter you to your face and then talk shit about you behind your back. Right, yeah. That woman culture is Eastern culture. It's Asian culture. It's, I don't know about Russian culture, but it's like all other cultures. And I, I was, like, I saw this woman in Taipei when I lived there, and she just got fucking railed by a car.

Hey, guys, if you're not already subscribed, please hammer the subscribe button below and hit the like button on the video. Back to the show. And she was bleeding like a stuck pig. Oh, God. But they don't show emotion in Asian culture. And Taipei is Taiwan. It's capitalist.

China is communist. But they act the same. Just one group has more money. They're still the same people. And she's standing there waiting for the ambulance. Blood is gushing out of her leg. And she's just like, and I'm like, go ow! Say ow!

Your knees falling off. But they don't, they have, they call it on her, but it's just like dishonesty, really. Yeah. What about the guy who fucking lit himself on him? fire during the Vietnam War and just sat there and didn't even fucking blink. Yeah. That's the epitome of that, right? Yeah. You don't like that. We're doing that now. You wanted that got to be screaming.

Yeah. But we have that now. We're taking on Eastern culture. How many burners have we had this year? We had the dude in front of Trump's trial who lit himself on fire. We had the guy in front of the Israeli embassy who said, free Palestine. He lit himself on fire. And then all the lefties were like, you're a white dude. I'm like, they don't like you, man. Yeah. You burned yourself alive, and they're all like, you don't have the right to fucking co-op our revolution.

Imagine you light yourself on fire, and you go to heaven or hell, I guess, and people are like, nope, sorry, Whitey, not on my watch. And you're like, I thought that was pretty good, lighting myself on fire. I guess I didn't make the cuts. Right.

Okay, sorry. What should I do next time? Light my whole family on fire? What specifically were you doing in Taiwan? Why were you living there? So when I graduated college, which was a dumb waste of time, there were no jobs. And I'd been a bike messenger in Montreal, which was, I'd rather French kiss my dad than do that again. That was fucking, you imagine the winters in Montreal on a mountain bike?

No, I can't go back. Going through the snow at 5 in the morning? No, fuck no. So you could make 20 bucks an hour back then teaching English. Minimum wage was five bucks an hour. So you could make fucking bank. And you go there and Chinese people just come up to you and they're like, you'll be at a fucking drugstore buying toothpaste and like,

can I talk to you, please? And they give you your address, their address. And you'd set up appointment. So I had a whole schedule of these people. And I came back with like 10 grand. Oh, wow. Which doesn't sound like a lot now, but when you're 22, I was a fucking billionaire.

And I was there for about six months. Hmm. And you know it's weird. I could not get Asian pussy to save my life. How old were you? 21. Really? The facial hair.

And I need facial hair because I don't have a chin. So I make a fake chin and a hair. It's a Potemkin village of chin. Hmm. But Asians hate hair. They're freaked out by it. But. So you didn't get any Asian posting when you were there.

Zero. But I had my pick of the whites. Because the white guys. The white, there was three. I fucked them all. Three. The whole population. Dude, I fucked this one girl who would get goose pimples when she came.

Goose pimples. Yeah. I haven't experienced that before since. I've experienced that before. I had a saying fucking Chinese. Every time something went wrong or some bullshit with them. and she dumped me for being racist. And I'm like, you know, they say white,

black people can't be racist because they're a minority. I was a minority. Can I say fucking Chinese in China? And I believe Taiwan's in China. But yeah, I did very well with white pussy there. But yeah, could not fucking slay any yellow. What a crime. And the whole thing with Vice.

So in 2008, I believe it was, That is when... Oh, these are great. I'm going to have one, too. The whole thing in 2008. Calm energy. That'd be funny. It's just...

It's a brain stimulant. If it's just... Xanax and Adderall in green water, they get busted three years later. Massive scandal. It's definitely not a fucking Adderall. Have you done a podcast on Adderall? It's the worst experience ever.

I wouldn't know what that's like. Anyway, next question. The guy probably sounded like a freak. Anyway, so many questions. Why don't we try to narrow it down? Anyway, what's this? Are you an Adderall right now? No.

Can I get another beer? I was debating on eating one today. Dude, I walked in, I won't give away your location. Yeah. But I walked into a bar this morning at 11 a.m. That one right there? Yes. That's a great bar.

And they go, you want a shot as I walk in? Yes, sir. They just looked at you and thought you wouldn't need a shot. Well, apparently. It was the tequila reps were in town and they buy a bottle and they give everyone free shots.

It's a great bar, by the way. It is a great bar. My buddy's local. Their food is surprisingly good too, which is weird. I bet you the kitchen is fucking nasty. Food is a fed. Food and sleep is for queer.

I fucking slept maybe two hours last night. Me too. And I woke up this morning feeling like I got ran over it and buy a truck. and then dragged 20 miles, and I was debating on fucking, I hit my buddy up and I was like,

yo, I might need to get an Adderall. You got an Adderall for me? I drove and met him, and he gave me an Adderall. And I was like, I had it and I was looking at it. I'm like, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to fucking do it.

You never do a whole Adderall. It turns me into a fucking emotionless robot. Yeah. You know? I took, you know, HRT, whatever it's called, where your body produces more testosterone. Oh, testosterone. Yeah, yeah.

We'll inject themselves with testosterone. Right, but it's not that. It's not you putting in testosterone. It's telling your body to make more. I was too much of a pussy to go full testosterone. So it's... So you're doing like... HGH...

Naturally boosting your own testosterone? Is that what it is? Hormone replacement therapy is... No, that's not it. It's HGH, I think. Oh, human growth hormone. Maybe that's what is. Anyway, do you inject it in your body?

No, no, it's a pill. Oh, okay. So you forget the acronyms. It tells your brain to make more testosterone. Okay. And because I got these buddies, like my buddy Stiggs, he's a retired cop, and he's, he chest presses 350 pounds. Wow. He's a monster.

And he'll drink like 50 beers and not get drunk. And he's like, you got to do it. And he goes, you can't have kids anymore. You fucking balls turn into peas. But who cares? When was the last time your wife even fucking saw your balls? Exactly. And I'm like, these are all strong points.

So I didn't want to go full tea. So I tried that shit. I started going bald immediately. And this is... You got great hair for you. How old are you? I'm 55. Great hairline.

But we're losing it here. Is that hairline real or did you get surgery? It's my pubes. I had my pubs skin grafted. And I did it myself. Okay. That's almost never done. In New York.

Impressive. It looks great. A six-pack and some ice. No, that's my real hair. But the thing I didn't like is I would come home and my kids felt like my wife felt like my girlfriend's kids. Like I was like, hi buddy, how are you today?

All right. Did you play your baseball or whatever you guys do? I was like, all right, I'm not doing this. That was when you took the pills. Yeah. Okay. But I think like, just like Viagra, it's sitting there on the maybe shelf.

Yeah. And I may become the testosterone guy. But I'm waiting until it's an issue. Like Anthony Coomia, he was fucking getting injected in the ass like a maniac. Yeah. And I would hang out with him. me drink too much.

And I also noticed when we would hang out, he'd be like, look at that ass. And I'd be like, what? And there'd be some woman like 40 feet away. And then he ended up getting a quadruple bypass. So. Anthony Coomia? Yeah. Really?

Yeah. At what age? 60. You think it was from doing the testosterone? I do think it was. No, there's no way. Well, there's genetics. Yeah.

There's the boozing. Oh, yeah. But he was fucking going hard. You know it's a big thing with like 20-year-olds, like really young kids now. Like it's a high schoolers. That's fucking terrible. High schoolers going to the gym, they just want to get super yoked. So they fucking buy testosterone behind the gas station.

And they're all fucking injecting themselves with it. Okay, stop. Women don't want super yoke. Like women don't want David Beckham. And I'd also like to say, as a guy who used to be young, we don't want fucking, like, Lonnie Anderson, lingerie. Like, Tom boys are. extinct, right? That was my bread and butter when I was at

15 years old. That's how you start getting into girls. Right. She has overalls and a red baseball hat and she likes baseball and you're going to date with her and then you smooch and touch one tit. When you get into your 20s, you want her to wear lingerie and smack her ass with high-hield shoes and all that shit,

but it's a stepping stone. And they've eradicated tombos from the fucking gene pool. Now, they just go, I'm a man, they cut their tits off. Right. And now there was a, the cover of Time Magazine said, extinct, and it had a tomboy on the front. No, it didn't.

It did. When? A month ago. Are you making this up? Pull that up, Jamie. I think you're making the shit off. I wish I was. I wish I was.

And Time Magazine's pretty left. Yeah. Now you're, you've made, oh my God, it's fucking real. Holy shit. Like that girl, I was obsessed with that girl my whole life, you know, as a young man. And also on TV. Dude, I mean, yeah, there's nothing. You had Bailey, WKRP?

You had Welcome Back Cotter's wife. Like, Gen X in the 70s. Those were our gals. We wanted to kiss them on the lips. The first to exist since the 90s. Is this like, is time going anti-trans? Well, maybe, yes. I think they're also saying that tomb boys are coming back,

which I hope they are. Like, call me old fashion. I don't want you to mutilate yourself and cut your fucking tits off. Right. Have you ever seen a tit? A tit? Yeah.

I've seen one or two. It's a very elaborate piece of machinery. Did you know? I'm watching my wife feed a baby with one every single day now. Yes. Did you know when they're feeding a baby? The tit goes, a lot of iron here. Let's produce more iron in the milk. It's fucking crazy.

It's a lab. It's a live lab. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not an earlobe. Right. And they chop that off and literally throw it in the garbage. That's crazy. In the name of, you know, feminism.

I think all that's the pendulum. swinging on all that shit, isn't it? Yes, you're right, but people are still getting cancelled. I mean... Really? Sure. And there's all these holdouts. I mean, L.A., Hollywood, the comedy scene in the West Coast, they're going to fucking...

They're sort of like the Japanese military when they didn't know that World War II ended. I saw a great video recently where this woman was like, there's a certain demographic who transitioned their kids and they're never going to admit. they were wrong because you cut your daughter's tits off. It's like a girl who got an abortion, she's never going to be pro life. No, because you've gone so far. You're never going to do that. If you become pro-life, you have to admit that you killed a

baby. Right. So they're pro-choice for life and I think these parents that cut her tits off, they're like, it was definitely the right thing. Yeah. Or else I maimed my child, which is what's worse than maiming your child? There's not much things out there. It can't get much worse than that. I guess maybe mass

murder, maybe. Megan Fox has trans kids? Yeah, she's got like seven. Seven of them, yeah. Statistically impossible. It's insane. And that's the, so that, you did some big trans piece back. And that's, that was the camel, the straw that broke the camel's back for you and vice? No, not at all.

No. So the straw that broke the camel's back with me and vice was Viacom. We were merging with Viacom. And they go, I don't like this guy. There was this guy, Brian Graydon, I think his name is. And I had the do's and don'ts. And there's a lot of gay jokes in there. Right.

And so I was always like invest. investigating radical shit. And then I think I went to this, I know I went to this Amront American Medicines Conference and there, I think Brian Graydon was like, see, see what he's up to? And, you know, Shane was my childhood friend. I hired him

to do sales. We were buddies when we were 12. And he was like in Canada. Shane and Sirush were both like fuck man, that was way too far. And you're getting out of control. And I would have been like, okay, we were handshake guys. But they gave me a legal document and I just couldn't get over it.

So when they reached out the olive branch or when Shane did, I was still so mad about the lawyer letter that I was like, fuck you. And then when I was, I take a long time to get over things. So like a month later when I was ready to forgive him, he had already, this is after the breakup. No, this is leading to the breakup. Leading to the breakup. Yeah, this is 2004.

Okay. When I reached out my olive branch, he was done. like this is whenever you hear about this like like what's your name at uh this is so strange times because it's always been a wild phenomenon of me people who grow up as friends for so long and then one of them just fucking cuts all ties all communication everything well at 90% of the time it's mistimed all of branches uh so he reached out his i snapped it away and then when i reached out mine it was dead he snapped his away that's really what it comes down to and there was a woman at the New York Times,

she was the executive editor, what was her name, fucking Laura Rabinovich or something? And I said to her once, I go, what it really comes down to is you didn't have beers with Pinch. Pinch was the Arthur Salzberger Jr.

That's why the Japanese get drunk with their employees. You've got to get drunk with your coworkers. You guys should go get pissed like once a month. When you don't do that, I don't know, you drift apart. When you get drunk with your coworkers,

you reestablish connections, and you realize, oh, you're a human being. Right. When you don't do that, you drift apart. Yes. And that's what happened with us. We were like three amigos. We bought a house together in Costa Rica.

We would party together every, all December, no, all of January, all of July. And then I fell in love with this woman and I left the trio. And I think they, I don't think they, you know, openly resented that, but it was like, who the fuck is this guy? And then they go on a golf trip with Johnny Knoxville and shit. I'm like, I'd rather just be with my girlfriend and go skiing or something. Right, right. So that was the beginning of the end. All of branches smashed.

And, yeah, we never recovered from that. So the moral of the story is if you have a big company. And then there was the pressure from corporate Viacom to get rid of me. But I could have survived that if I hung out with those guys more and drank more. Did you see that coming with those? Like when they started courting that VC money, did you, like, how clearly did you see that coming? That's a great question.

And the funny thing is, my role was always being their worst nightmare. Right. Like, I was the Grinch that stole Christmas, like, from day one. We used to, in Montreal days, we would go to the printing press when we were newsprint, and we had to wait like six hours at the press to check the reds and the yellows and the greens.

I think it was bullshit. What are we going to do? More green, please. Like, I think it was just a gesture. But anyway, I would draw, I'm a good cartoonist, I would draw the most horrifically insulting cartoons of them. And Sirouche looks like Gonzo from the Muppet Show. And I would draw like his bags under his eyes.

And I would take me like 10 minutes and I would show him. And he'd be like, Jesus Christ, that is so horrible. And then I draw Shane as this like fat, useless tub of shit. And I would show him. And Seroosh can take it on the chin, but Shane is very sensitive. And he'd be like, you know what? That actually looks bad on you. And I'm like, this fat tub of shit looks bad on me.

And he's like, yeah, it shows how you see people. So I was just like the screwdriver belt buckle and the speak English, like I was always the bad guy. Yeah. In a silly Batman villain kind of way. So there was no really writing on the wall in that sense because that was the culture. And in fact, with Vice... That was the... Would you say that kind of attitude

and that mindset was the whole soul behind Vice, right? Correct. And that was our business plan. Our business plan was Gavin and the Sid Vicious guys were cantankerous nightmares. And then the sales guys hated us. They were like Mom and Dad. Right.

And we could never be friends. And I remember when I tried to transfer that to Vice UK, they would do these advertorials where it's a five-page article about Ty beer and how awesome it is. And I'm like, dude, no person reading this is like, well, I guess Falsh really loves

Tiger Beer. I guess it's a delicious beer and they just found it upon themselves to talk about Tiger Beer for Faf Pages. No, dude, it's clearly, they paid for this fucking shit. So we had this cantankous relationship and it was fucking fun,

I got to say. Like, I have this joke where I add the word care into everything where people are like hey man I just got my diploma and I'm like hi I just got my diploma in care because I don't care that you got your diploma right in care yeah like care was the constant thing sorry I'm late sorry I care I don't know

oh I seriously it gets funny 37 times into it okay so this I remember one time there was this sales guy coming by it was me and Jesse Pearson who was the managing editor at the time and the sales guy is walking by the cool section the editorial section. We made the advertising guys, the nerds in the other section. Right.

And there was literally a wall between us. So he's coming out and he's with some radio guy. And he goes, hey, uh, hey guys. And we're like, uh, hi.

And, uh, he goes, this is, uh, the radio dude I was telling you about who wants to advertise with us. And I go,

where does he work? C-A-R-E-F-M? And then we all died fucking laughing. Because we don't care. And that chips away after a while, especially when you get to Viacom levels. Yeah. And eventually it breaks. And, yeah, they were like, I don't like this advertising hates editorial.

I mean, we'd still drink beers with them on a Friday night. That's my dad's thing. My dad always said, I'm a terrible person to work with. I'm a great guy to drink with. And that's always been my philosophy. Work should not be fun besides this. So, like, work sucks. What the fuck are you doing?

Get your notes together. And then, you know, Friday at five, let's go to the bar and I'll hang out with you. We're buddies. But we're like working on the chain gang. We're like chipping rocks. Right. But like, you were in charge of all the content with advice. All the content.

I was literally retards. We had R.A. the rugged man, the rapper. He had severely handicapped kids. I don't know. I mean siblings. Oh. Like brutally And we

This guy worked for you? No, he was a friend Oh, okay But we did a Like a advice column Right I was I would answer questions As a retard

I was women I was a black guy Like Because they said Your writing isn't diverse enough So I just became All the people That they wanted us to be

Black female Retarded Whatever you want That's the best way To handle diversity Just have a white guy Do it Oh my fucking

That's your pull quote. That's fucking hilarious. Well, there was like, there was, and I've heard this described by Hamilton. He says there was like three. Who's Hamilton? Morris. Was he after you? Thomas Morton?

Oh, Hamilton Morris. Hamilton, was he, did he come in there after you? That rings the bell. I don't really think I know him. Well, interesting. Maybe he came in after you. You never heard of Hamilton's pharmacopoeia? Nope.

Oh, that's the guy who did like the drug videos? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The chemist. Couldn't know him last. You got to understand, too, after I left, I was so resentful that I would see that logo, which I can only tolerate like now. Right. 40 years later.

Yeah, yeah. So I wouldn't watch any of the shows. Right. Was there video when you were still there? You guys were already doing video. Oh, yeah. David Cross and I went to China, and we had a company make us Apple Pies called All American Apple Pies with an American flag in them. And when you pull out the American flag, it plays.

a star-spangled banner with like a little machine in the apple pie. Wow. And it said American made on the side. In China. In China. Yeah. We did a million funny things there. We went to a bar once when we were there and we met the owner and he's like,

what are you guys doing here? We go, we're in a band, but the fucking government doesn't want us here because we're too revolutionary and they took all our equipment. So I guess we can't do our tour. And he goes, you can play here. You can play your show here And I would give you all kindly We got drum, we got bass

I was lying obviously Jake was one of the guys Oh really? Yeah So we had a show the next night I was on drums Like Bong bong bong bum bump bump Jake was like

Bleep meep me Meee You guys had no clue what you were doing No none of us can play instruments And David Cross was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're totally rocking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's hilarious. At one point, we did a sketch that was purely spontaneous.

I bought a racist mask with like long Fumanchu things and the chinky eyes. And I'm trying to buy like a watch in the market in Beijing, no, Shanghai. And the guy's like, oh, you've got to pay like a 20 bucks. And I'm like, oh, I get what's happening because I'm Guy Jin, right? I'm a fucking white guy. So you're going to give me the white prices. Amazon presents Jeff versus Taco Truck Salsa, whether it's Verde, Roja, or the orange one. For Jeff, trying any salsa is like playing Russian roulette with a flamethrower.

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Like with big buck teeth. The guy was funny enough to get the bit with no introduction. And he gives me a total crazy rebate on it. And then I buy the watch for like two bucks. Oh, Jesus Christ. Because he was funny enough to understand. I didn't know Chinese people could be funny, but wow. We did like a hundred of those dumb sketches.

And Shane kind of kiboshed it. It was Vice. You're asking me about pre-video when I was there. Pre-split when I was there. Right, right, right. Yeah, we did tons of stuff. I mean, I was the head of Vice TV. I was in charge of that.

We did a pilot with Johnny Knoxville and a pilot with David Cross. You know what's funny about Johnny Knoxville? those guys have ball flicking in their like DNA so you'll be at MTV talking to Brian Green or not Brian Green the fag I talked about earlier or some like major player at Comedy Central Jeff Tremaine Johnny Knoxville all those guys when they're like waiting in the hallway for a meeting they're all like this at all times they're always covering their balls covering their balls like it could be a funeral yeah it could be like we could be meeting the president getting the the Congressional Medal of Honor.

And they'd just be like waiting there because they flick fucking balls on. Oh my God. It's just in their DNA now. It'd always protect their balls. One time I was with Knoxville and Jeff Tremaine at that Lemmy bar in L.A., Hollywood something, Hollywood Bowl, whatever it's called.

Anyway, Tramaine, Stivo leaves his phone on the bar. And Tremaine picks it up. He starts calling his ex-girlfriends, Stivo's. And he does a perfect Steveo. And he's like, hey, I miss you so much. I'll pay for your fucking Uber. Get down here. I want to be with you so bad.

And Steveo was on a date. So as he comes back from the bathroom, like, all these exes start appearing. Oh, my God. Dude, those guys are advanced. Is that how Spike Jones got into the whole vice loop? Yeah, that was me. Through you. Spike Jones got in the vice loop.

I saw adaptation. And I go, that's the, we want. went to a premiere. And I go, that's the greatest film ever made. I connected. I've never seen that. Oh, my God. It's in my top five.

Really? Yeah. But I don't want any spoilers. But there's a scene where what's her name, Merrill Streep or something? She's on a porn site because her boyfriend filmed her. And I go, Spike, greatest movie I've ever seen. But why would Merrill Streep character, Merle Streep's character, except being on a porn site? That's not her personality.

Like the woman who are okay with being on porn sites have like neck tattoos. And they do crack. They're not like classy broads. And it bothered him a lot. He was like, fuck. You should always, guys, if you're watching, screen all movies through me. I will tell you the hole in the plot. But then I felt like Shane and Eddie, they kind of like stole Spike from me.

Oh, really? They didn't even like adaptation. Huh. And then they started Vice Film, which, yeah. So when you guys started courting those VC companies. I love that word. Cording. Cording.

Yeah. We bought Viacom flowers and chocolates. Are you serious? No. Actually, you want to know courting. Back in the newsprint days in Montreal, the record labels were the only people advertising in like weeklies. we were monthlies, but whatever, right?

Like, think of the village voice. That's what we were. These record labels were like, we want to hire women too. I'm a dude, so I'm too busy, like, getting CDs to the customer and signing bands and doing real shit. There's a woman here. We've got to give her a job. How about you just buy ads in newsprint shit?

So our bosses, in a sense, were these women. And they were fucking cougars. and I think one of our co-workers, like peers, they had a graphic design firm called Heliozilla. And they're like, have ever noticed that the only way we could move ahead is to fuck these 40-year-olds? And I'm like, yeah, that seems to be an issue. And he goes, they're fucking cougars is what they're.

I think he copyrighted the word, didn't copyright. I think he invented the word cougars. But anyway, shame was our sales guy. And the poor guy had to eat out these 40-year-olds when we were like 22. And we always said back then We go, we ate our way to the top And I don't know why this stuck with me so much

But, you know, before I hated Shane, I loved him And he told me about some ch-he went to dinner with And she was a cougar and she ran like universal What did you say ch-no? No, I said Asian-American. Oh my God. Did you hear a shit? You're racist.

Yeah. Do you hear something people say Asian? Un-fucking believable. That's sad. I feel sorry for you. So anyway, they're having dinner together, right? and can you see my hand? No. Okay.

Can you see my hand now? So they're having dinner together. She's eating, not looking at them. They all have short hair, by the way, which is... What? If you're fucking a woman from behind and she has short hair, you're looking down to a 12-year-old boy. I got into bed with a lady.

Now I'm a 12-year-old boy. You, me. That's why I would say to ladies, fucking grow your hair out. I don't care how thin and grow. gross it is, growed up. But anyway, so they're at dinner and they're eating and she, her hand is on the table and she goes like this. You know what that means? Put your hand in my hand. I don't know. Is that the Holocaust? That's the worst thing I've ever heard. And to this day,

if anyone goes like this to me, I'm like the Hulk. I just go, and I start killing everyone in the room. Like, and he didn't want to be there. She showed. up in a limo, picked him up. Am I nuts? Does that sound revolting to you? Maybe I'm nuts. It sounds weird. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know. Like, imagine you're fucking a woman who's old and ugly. You don't want to fuck her. And you're at dinner with her. And her business is contingent on your business's success. And she decides to Harvey Weinstein you. We were Harvey Weinstein. And it wasn't me.

It was mostly shame. Right, right, right. But to go like, that's worse. said Harvey Weinstein. Yeah. At least Harvey was like, blow me and I'll get you in a movie. Right.

Did he ever go like... Just calling you over like you're just like she's some loyalty. Give me her hand. Give me her hand. Give me her hand. How about, have you seen what Candace Owens is doing with Harvey Weinstein? She's vindicating him.

I just saw that today. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Is that old news? No, she's been, I think she's been going at this for months now. But apparently he got me too.

Apparently he's innocent. I agree. Very unpopular opinion. I love how fast you were to agree with that. This doesn't get me canceled. Harvey Weinstein did nothing wrong. Nothing. He said, suck my dick and you can be in a bunch of movies.

What would happen if Harvey said that to you? You'd be like, no, thanks. Guess I won't be in a ton of movies. Not on my radar, thanks. Oh, God. Mr. Tomé was like He said if I don't fuck him I won't be a movie

Okay get another trade then Yeah it's not like he's holding a gun I feel the same way About P. Diddy He wrote me 37 times Oh my God that's horrible What kind of cage were you in? Oh I would go home

And then I would come back for the next Okay What did the police say? Oh I didn't go to the police Okay get the fuck out of here and this is where it gets real controversial Jeffrey Epstein couldn't care less

Now if you find a 12 year old Jeffrey Epstein couldn't care less I couldn't care less Oh you couldn't care about Jeffrey Epstein Don't give a shit Now if you find me a pre-pubescent girl That was there against her will By all means I want to murder everyone involved

With an M-16 and bury them under the fucking jailhouse But like a voluntary 17-year-old Well I'd like to beat up her dad but all these post-pubescent sex party shit I think it dilutes the actual child trafficking children that are being shipped all over America right now

to the tunes of hundreds of thousands well it was that with the Jeffrey Epstein stuff they were shipping over like 12 year olds okay if I looked that up I couldn't find it but show me a 12 year old and now I'm mad Jean-Luc Bernel the fucking the French modeling agency guy was shipping over 12-year-olds to Epstein Island. Okay, I'm in. You show me a 12-year-old, I'm in.

All I've seen is 17-year-olds. Did you see that? One witness? Like, you know how many fucking 17-year-olds the Beatles fucked? Oh my God, that's so funny. Have you seen, I'm sure you've heard all the songs, right? What's the Kiss song? Christine 16.

Sexy and 17, the Beatles. There was a girl. There's a Rick James song, too. There was a very hot Puerto Rican girl that Jimmy Page kidnapped. I will concede She's one of the prettiest woman I've ever seen Big fucking fat lips But David Bowie fucked her

She was 14 at the time Led Zeppelin fucked her Jimmy Page kidnapped her And she's in a book called Groupies I don't like that It's not at the top of my priority list Because it was voluntary But I want to focus on fucking

Children There's children There's 350,000 missing children from Biden's. Let's focus on that, please. And I'm dubious of all this Weinstein-Epteen-Ditty stuff where you're just like, ah, there's sexual transgressions. No, no, no. There's adults being gross where like this dumb bitch

had to lick cum off some male prostitutes back. Gross, don't want to hear about it. Then there's fucking children. Right, right, right. Can we focus, please? Right. Yeah. The ditty thing is like,

who gives a fuck. I could not. How many gay origins he's having. I assumed that was going on. You're rich, you're black, you're probably on the DL. Sure, you're fucking drinking come off some dude's forehead. I don't want,

I'm actually mad. I have to hear about it. Yeah, no, it's definitely distraction from the real, disgusting, underage child trafficking that. That is real. No.

Some whistleblower who worked at a, what's it called H&H, human HHR? she goes, we kept shipping kids, Mexican illegal kids, to the same address. And we knew that address was a sex trafficking address. And I said to my bosses, and thank God for this woman being brave enough to go to James O'Keefe with this. She goes, I said to my bosses, that's a sex traffickers house. And they said, yes, I know, but we only get sued if we keep kids too long, which is kind of a Biden thing. We have to keep the machine moving.

And she said, sex traffickers don't sue. So if we can keep the kids going to these homes where they get... I'm talking about 8, 9, 10, 11. We don't get sued. So we're good. And we're doing our job. This is, again, women in the workforce. Like, they get so devoted to their job that they're like, yeah, let's kill some kids.

They always say, I'm off of a tangent now, but they always say, like, women should rule the world. There'd be no more wars. Yeah, we tried that. It's called paganism. They sacrificed babies and virgins to their stupid fucking grass gods. Who did? The pagans. Pre-Christianity.

Like in Ireland and all over Europe. Yeah. So I don't want to go back to that. Well, they still, I mean, they sacrificed baby. Even Christians, even early Christians were sacrificing babies. That was just part of the world back then, wasn't it? Human trafficking was like ubiquitous in antiquity. Are you an atheist?

No, I'm not an atheist. Okay. But I'm not a Christian. What are you? I'm not really, I'm like, I'm a, I'm a Buddhist. I'm a religious eunuch. I'm a Muslim. I'm a Muslim.

I hate when they say Muslim. You were a Muslim? No, I had a Muslim on the show. What do you call them a Muslim? I call them a Muslim. I call them a muzzie. A muzzy. I'm not compatible with, you didn't you used to say Jesus was a fat? I did say that, yes.

Not proud of that. Why? I was just trying to be controversial. Oh, you were just trying to use. I was an atheist back then. You were trying to get the people going. Yeah. What inspired you to say that?

I was just trying to be rude. Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, there's evidence that Abraham Lincoln was a fan. It's kind of back then I was, you know, in media. You want to think outside the box. Podcasts are gay. I don't know.

Sure. Just trying to get people riled up. Yeah, you want to say something like Jonathan Swift with his modest proposal. We said the Irish are overpopulated and they're starving. let's have them meet their babies. I was just trying to be, I regret it very much, but I was an atheist until my daughter was born. I said this on Joe Rogan's show, which is now deleted.

He deleted? Yeah, both my Joe Rogans are deleted. I saw her heel. I saw her heel. And the fact that that, she was a baby, the fact that her little heel, she's 18 now, is going to like change and develop. up and always be the perfect amount of padding.

And then, and that sounds too rational. And then I honestly felt God when I was in bed. Try to blow me. No, I'm just kidding. That's a joke. That's a joke. Don't make me my plane crash. No, I was in bed with my wife, and I felt God.

And I woke up my wife and I went, I love God. Really? Yeah. So there's a rational. You woke up. I woke up out of the middle of the night. I told your wife you love God. My daughter would have been like, this would be like 2007.

And I woke up and I go, I love God. And that's kind of like they always go, how could you prove to an atheist that God exists? You could show them like the shrouded turn and all this data. But you really got to kind of feel it. And God was like, I'm here. And I've been. Because of the miracle watching your child be born. I think there were two separate things.

One was a rational thing where I saw her heel and I was so impressed with what God has created. But then secondly, it was purely spiritual and it was God coming in and being, by the way, I'm right here. Huh. That's how he talks. That's interesting. Hey, dude, I was waiting for you. What took yourself walking?

So do you go to church every week? I did. After I got canceled, though, I live in a very liberal neighborhood. Oh, really? And when I would bring the family to church, it was all like, You know, it's funny. You hear this, I'm actually biting some of my stand-up, but you hear about black people,

they're like, when I was young, they would touch my hair for good luck. And you're like, that doesn't sound so bad like this. And they go like code switching. I have to code switch where when I'm with my cousins, I'm like, yo, what's up, motherfucker? But when I'm at work, I have to say, hello, how are you?

So many way to church, you'd have to code switch. Yeah, we all do that, bitch. And then I realized I'm a, like I'm black in 1945. I'm married to a white woman in 1945. They vandalized my car. They throw fruit at my fucking house. They zeaghyle me when I'm out with my kids. They ostracized my children.

Just like the black girl at school that had to be escorted to the school. That's my daughter. Like she was eating lunch alone. And this is after the whole proud boys. Still going strong since 2018. Yeah. And Anthony Coombe actually made up this joke where I get to the kids baseball games. Like I'll be at one tomorrow.

And I can see the liberal whites disproportionately Jewish, but whatever. And I could see them like, oh, God, the n-h-s here. And my attitude is like, I'm like a fat black guy in 1939. And I'm just like, I don't want no trouble. All right? I'm like crumpling up my bucket hat. I just, I just want to see my boy's game now. I don't need no trouble. You all, y'all enjoy your game.

So does your kid not have any friends? All his friends are black, believe it or not. Really? Oh, you come full circle. Well, these classist cunt liberals, they're actually racist. So they don't like the blacks. They're into eugenics system. It's the horseshoe theory.

Yes. So they met. So my house is Harlem. And not just my 12-year-old, but my 16. you know, black-de-black, black. Now, they're middle-class blacks who live in a white neighborhood, so it's not exactly like fucking...

What's up, Mr. McGinnis? But I just think it's funny. They're the ones that don't give a shit. Well, I don't think they read Huffington Post. Right, right, right, right. They're like, they work their asses off to move to a white neighborhood. So they're, like, too busy kicking ass

and taking names to deal with, like, what does the fucking, what does MSNBC say about proud boys? I don't know if they know I'm a proud boy. But it's funny how I get to these baseball games, and I can see the parents like, ugh. And I go like 10 feet from them, and I just sit there wringing my bucket hat,

like, I don't want no trouble now. I'm just watching my boys game. And occasionally there'll be some white guy who speaks to Negroes who will come over to me. And they'll be like, hey, hey, Gavin. And I'll be like, look, Ben, you don't need to come over now. Don't do it. Don't do it.

save yourself. Yeah. Don't you be wrecking your life? I have a couple guys who own restaurants in town. They're like, you should come out of the restaurant. I'm like, no, no, sir. I don't want to be wrecking your restaurant by being no Negro coming around there. Eat my fried chicken and grids.

Has it made you paranoid? Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Has that gotten, has that got eased since the, when this whole debacle happened, what, 2001? I'm sorry, 2012. It happened on October 12th, 2012. 2018 when I did the parody of Othoya Yamaguchi

killing the head of the Japanese Socialist Party, which is on my website, censor.tv. Is this the talk you did at the Republican? Just a joke. But the left was getting a very bad reputation with Antifa and everything. So they needed violence from the right. And I actually got a call from a Jew named Mike

who I kicked out of the, the proud boys for going to Charlottesville. And he goes, dude, they're looking for a photo op tonight. I know I'm out. But they want violence from the right. So here's what you got to do. Bring pillows. And when Antifa attacks you, you'll be in a pillow fight.

So the proud boys did bring pillows. Yeah. They, that night, there was, like I've done talks at that place before, the Metropolitan Club. And there was like zero protesters. and it's always like 100 people. All my shows are like 100 people. And this night was like 500 people protesting. They glued the locks.

They smashed the windows. They called the old lady who runs the Metropolitan Club. We're like, you're a fucking whore. I'm going to read you. Like calls from all over the country. Oh, yeah. Calls from all over the country, too. Not New York.

And then there was this dude John. He showed up and he was a journalist. He got the shit beat. down of him by Antifa. They stole all his equipment. Twelve of them jumped him. Gavin Wax, who now works for Trump, he was there with his buddy

and they go, holy fuck, Antifa's jumping a dude. They grabbed them. They got the cops involved. They arrested four people. Kai Russo, Caleb Perkins, Finn Bar Sloanum. One of those dudes was in the Thomas Dock, right?

I don't know. I think one of the guys that got arrested. was in prison watching them. Oh, yeah. No, no, those, I'm getting to those guys. Oh, okay. So they arrested all these Antifa dudes. They go to court.

Lawyers appear out of the ground like corn when you arrest Antifa. And they're just like, these guys are innocent. Free to go. So we're kept in the Metropolitan Club. They dispersed the crew. All the protesters are gone. And the protesters were weird. They were like a brown turtleneck with a blazer.

Yeah. Yeah, you're from Turkey. You're not American. You've been hired. They had this banner like no Nazis on our turf and it was like a big cloth banner that was 100 feet wide embroidered. What is that? $13,000. How did you get that together? They're throwing glass bottles of piss at us, which are the P. Diddy Syrac bottles, which are probably 80 bucks each. I don't fucking know. Like the sarac. So they must have poured the vodka out and pissed in them and they're throwing piss at us. So they leave the pillows at the fucking venue Because everyone's gone They go to the subway to go home Antifa didn't leave They went around the corner

They flanked them They jumped the proud boys And they go, you want to go? Prohboys go yes Proh boys are losing at the beginning That the other guys start showing up They win A 17 second fight

The copseido Antifa Do you want to press charges? They go fuck you pig I just got punched in the face like 70 times. Oh, sorry. Like, where were you? And the cops go, okay, well, there's nothing for me to do here. There's no mutual combat.

So the whole thing's dropped. We called to the bars that night. Max and John are joking about it. And it wasn't even a big deal. It would be like me telling people tonight that I did your podcast. Not that it's not a big deal, but like, where were you? I did Danny Jones podcast. Oh, okay.

I wouldn't be like, you guys are not going to fucking believe this. So we forgot about it that night. And next day, de Blasio, fucking Cuomo, everyone is tweeting hate has no place. You know how they always get their little word? Like with the fucking Trump in South Africa,

the word was ambush, and they all say ambush. So it was, hate has no place in New York. They all kept repeating that. Like dozens of tweets from all the top brass in New York. And those guys are,

or yanked into court four years in prison. One of the guys was brown. We call him Brown David. He's Indian. And he was one of the three. And they go, you're looking at four years with these guys. And he goes, I think you're bluffing. I think you're going to make this whole thing about white supremacy.

And you can't use it on me because I'm not white. And you're going to chicken out. So he like all in poker James Bond shit. And they were like, okay, you're free to go. Really? He's gone. And John Kinsman's wife is black as black can be. She's not black like Cosby Show black.

She's like, motherfucker. What the fuck? I love her, but she's like black woman from the south side of Chicago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she told me, because we would go visit them every few months. We drive for like six hours, six hours there, six hours back. And she was like, when I was at court with them, I would go piss. And all the cameras, I could hear the cameras.

As I walked to the bathroom, I could hear like, of John. And then when I came back and sat with him, cameras down. And at one point, he was like, get the fuck out of here. One guy from the Daily News, I could look up his name,

he gets down on his knees like James Brown and shoots up. So this becomes this. And it's a Zieg Heil. And I had my buddies going, dude, why's your boy Zieg-hiling? It's so fucking dumb. I'm like, he wasn't.

Wow. And this is all. So it wasn't. until 2021, the January 6th thing, until you got censored off all the platforms, right? No, it was that night. Oh, it was on October you got banned. October 12th, 2018.

Band from Pinterest, Mailchimp, Shopify, fucking Australia. I got a piss. Go piss. Here's the thing. What? I get that there's like suburban activists, like moms.

But as far as the right and the left goes... Suburban activist moms. Yeah, like they want to terrorize your kids and stuff. They want to terrorize your kids. Yeah. So as far as the right and the left goes, the right has a problem with lack of unity. We're like, oh, you support Israel?

Fuck you, you're dead to me. The left has the opposite problem. Where they're like, oh, you fuck some kids? Well, we could work it out. Just try not to do it again. So when I was vilified, when I moved to the burbs during this 2018 shit, like the suburban moms got word from Antifa that I'm a Nazi. And they were like, I got it from here. So it went from like banners on the highway and shit.

I was talking to this. Banners on the highway saying like a fascist lives here. Yeah. To like the local moms putting signs on our lawns and signs everywhere. Signs in your lawns. Oh, yeah. Dude, I could do a whole podcast on the insane shit they did. My babysitter, when my kid was four, my babysitter's parents told her to quit because she's working for fascists.

No, no, sorry. My babysitter's boyfriend's parents told him to tell her to quit. She said, no, he dumped her. Jesus Christ. The 17-year-olds. Imagine being, like, if I was 17 and my dad was like, I need you to stop eating that chick come. she's a fucking slut by the way I'd be like totally done

Dad yeah she's totally dumped anyway I'm out to see the movies with Kim fuck why do I I'm like the place that repaired my computer got boycotted into into extinction because they fixed my computer

and they're obviously fascists if they fix my computer so you don't want to put your computer there they'll get your banking information immigrant from Portugal But go ahead. So that was the kind of, you know, barrage of attacks. Yeah.

But it was based on Antifa propaganda. Yeah. And these left-wing moms are perfectly willing. So the analogy I would use is New Canaan, Connecticut is a right-wing place. Imagine a family moved. This is about 20 minutes north of me. Imagine a family moved to New Canaan and the Nazi skinheads were like, these guys are lovers, they're fucking race mixers.

put signs on their lawn and ostracize their children's. And the, children's, and the conservatives' moms in that neighborhood were like, got it. Thanks, Nazis. We're on it. So the weird thing is like,

Antifa and suburban moms, yes, we're on the same page. Let's work together. Whereas Nazi skinheads and fucking conservatives hate each other's guts. Yeah. I'm not saying they should like each other,

but the, level of unity on the left is fucking bizarre. Well, I mean, Nazi skin, there's no Nazi skin. Well, you know, I'm being hyperbolic, but yeah, any kind of like groipers, for example, it's just like, okay, Groyper's. If Groyper's told New Canaan moms that this neighbor's a bad neighbor, New Canaan moms would be like, who the fuck are you? You're into frogs? Get out of my face. Right. Yeah, the whole thing is strange. It's like, it seems like every couple years, the whole thing just morphs and shifts into something else. It seems, seems like the, like, even like the whole idea of, of right and left is constantly fucking changing.

It seems like. Well, yeah, but that's not oversimplify it. What's really happening is the whole centrist thing is moving to the left. And if you have Obama and the Clinton's politics of 2004, you're a radical right-wing lunatic. Yeah. Meanwhile, you're left to center on any normal spectrum. So they just keep pushing it farther left. And I think what's happened post, I'm going to go back two months.

Post two months is you moved the Overton window too far to the left. You're fucking insane. We're not joining you anymore. That might be a bad use of Overton window. You move the political spectrum too far to the left and we have nothing in common with you anymore. Look at who the left has to offer. I don't know where you are on the political spectrum. but I look at like AOC, Bernie Sanders, Ilhan Omar,

like Gavin Newsom, absolute fucking clowns. Yeah. They need, there's definitely a void. There's a gap there that needs to be filled. And they think it's Joe Rogan. They're like, why are we so unpopular? Probably because Joe Rogan controls the young people's brains. No, dude, Joe Rogan was a lefty, by the way.

You ruined your brand and he moved over to our. side, barely. Yeah. The reason that everyone hates you is because you have no policies, you have no, no views. You just have fucking radical weird losers who hate white people. It's like a fake puppet show. And what was I going to say? I was going to like, I was explaining the, um, no, I was talking about unity on the left

versus disunity. Oh, I remember what I was going to say now. Wild idea. Imagine if the left was able to get. get Candice Owens to move over to their size. And they fucking made Candice Owens their leader and ran Candice Owens. She's too radical. She's way too radical.

It would be a smart move, though, wouldn't it? Sure. Good luck with that. With her going against Ben Shapiro. But she's saying things like Macron's wife is male, which she may very well be. Yeah. You might be right on that. But she's Alex Jones.

She's a very outside the box chick where you go, that's the stupidest, craziest thing I've ever heard. And then you look it up and you're like, That's actually pretty true. I discovered her, you know. You discovered Candace Owens? Really? And then I became a pariah as she was moving up.

I tried to get her on my show and she said no. And then I, when I started my new website, censor.tv, I had some investors where they go, let's get right and left talking again. And I go, dude, I tried, but okay. How much money you got? They go, well, let's spend 100 grand trying to get the left to talk. So I got Cornell West. I watched that.

That was great. Yeah, I got. And Candice also, none of the right people charged me money. Michelle Malkin was like hotel and plane. Anculture was hotel and plane. Candice was like, how about 15 grand? And I was like, well, I did discover you, but okay. You know we're never speaking ever again.

And I never spoke to her ever again. What year did you guys film that? The Candace Owens one? The Candice Owens, Cornell West one. I'm going to say three or four years ago? You want to know a secret about that? Yeah. While the cameras were off,

Candice was like, we have a problem. I think, I'm paraphrasing here, but I think she may have said, we have an IQ problem. Talking about blacks. That's paraphrasing, but it was something like that.

And then Cornell goes, yes, but you get one of these brothers in front of a soundboard, And he just makes absolute magic. Oh, that was in the show. I remember that. That made it to the show?

That part. The IQ part wasn't in there. The IQ part didn't get in. But he said something about, yeah, along the lines of getting in the sound studio. I kind of agree with them in that, like, it's terrible to say, it's white supremacy to say whites are better at systems and blacks are better at other things. But they got some of the coolest shit that they're good at. Music, jazz, rap, whatever, sports. Yeah, yeah.

Those are very cool things. What are whites, and the argument is this is white supremacy. What are whites arguably genetically better at? Systems. That's not cool. That's like being a woodchuck or a beaver. Like we're better at making sure these mics work. Is that really, am I allowed to have that?

I can't have that? Like, for example, I'm on the plane on the way here this morning. And the fucking announcements are so relentless, it took all my willpower not to go, Shut up! Like, we are coming through with a cart. All right, can I wait till the cart shows up? Fasten your seatbelts.

No smoking. Did you know that? You can't smoke. Really? I thought it was 1972. And I could just sit here, smoke it away with my little ashtray. It's so funny. They still have the fucking signs there.

They have to tell you. Dude, it's 40 minutes of announcements. And they're fucking loud. And I felt like if there's a white man in control of that scenario, He'd be like, guys, the announcements are getting a little abrasive. Let's take it down a notch, okay? No more announcement. If a white man were in control,

if a white man were in control of the announcements on a plane, this is one of my most controversial views, we'd get like a tenth of what we get. They repeat themselves too. We're going to come coming by with a JetBlue card. He said that, all right? You said that. And I think that white men are good at,

going, all right, no more coffee in the front room. It's blocking people when they walk in. Right. You know what I mean? Dumb shit like that. Dumb system stuff. But they've been kicked out of those jobs. So now the lunatics are running the asylum,

and we have 40 minutes of fucking announcements. And that's also why you see people getting canceled, because they get a call that a racist is working at Arby's. And there's some woman there is like, uh-oh, I better bring this up to HR. And HR's a woman. And she's like, okay, fire him. But like a Kleeney'swood type of man would go,

yeah, that's not what we're doing. That's ridiculous. Anyway, get back to work. Right. So the fear of white supremacy has led to whites abdicating their throne as good at systems guys. And systems are suffering. And we're in a competence crisis now.

where complex systems are falling apart. And no one knows how to fucking run an airplane anymore. So let these guys back at the helm. The other problem with systems is politics is a system. Right. So white men should be disproportionately represented in politics. Sorry. We're just good at it.

It's not cool. Politics is like taxes, capital gains tax, estate tax. You know, what borders should be where interest rates. I don't know why I have to feel bad about being good at this boring shit. You can fucking slam dunk. Run with that. Right. Asians, they're great at duplicating white systems and making a car better than the car we made.

That's cool. But yeah, white males have to be ashamed of systems. I think that's going away, though. Don't you think that's starting to, like I said earlier, don't you think I think this whole white, blaming it white supremacy for everything, white supremacy is the problem. You paint everything with white supremacy that broad brush is like, it seems like the culture, there's a cultural shift happening. You're absolutely right.

It seems like more people are. But take, take a sock the size of this building and fill it with sand. Okay. And there's people at the front of the sock being like, we fix this and they're marching forward and they're doing a great job. You got 50 foot of sand sock dragging through the parking lot. you got Hollywood leftist comedians like the end of that sock Trump's gone by the way in a thousand days

the end of that sock I don't know are we going to get it through the fucking the finish line before Trump's gone yeah that's a good point I worked out I did the math the other day so Biden led in 12 million Trump has about 1300 days left 12 million divided by 1,300 is 8,000

we need to deport $8,000 a day to get rid of the illegals that Biden brought it. We still have the $30 million that were there before Biden started opening the gates. So to get back to zero is $8,000 a day. Well, we started deporting the protesters at the universities now. If you're protesting Israel, you get deported. We got one. Do you think that's a good thing?

Yes. I'm a Islamophob. So you think if you protest, if you're a, well, it's not only Islamophobic. and a hypocrite. I'm done with being consistent. Okay. I stole this from Jim Norton. No more consistency for me.

They're not being consistent, so I'm not consistent anymore. I'm a free speech absolutist if it's my kind of free speech. Hmm. I mean, I'm exaggerating, but I'm kind of not. Like, we're at war with Islam. We're at war with Islam? Yes, absolutely. The U.S.

No, the Christian world, the West. the west how is the west at war at war with is because christianity is on the decline in islam is on the way up and that's bad so how is Islam on the way up numbers i mean america would i mean the world was two-thirds christian a third islam yeah what is the number there what is the breakdown between muslims and christians in the world they're about to beat us there yeah and their religion is archaic they put women in garbage bags yeah but why do you think they hate christians they hate everyone don't you think they don't you think convert or die

don't you think they hate the the most uh extremist Muslims are the ones they got that way because of all the intervention you know how many Muslims think suicide bombing is sometimes are often justified

one in four really yeah really think that's true dig it up boys in in places like Pakistan it's gonna be like come up with that stat they interview the question on the questionnaires is do you think suicide bombing is sometimes or often justified?

And of course, CNN will trip over themselves to explain that question. But my other big problem was with the moderate Muslims. Like, why are you not out there criticizing radical Islam? And a little side note, I forgot to mention. There are. When Max and John were doing that shit and they made John look like he was Zeke Highling, where was the right-wing media? Where was Daily Wire? Where was Breitbart?

Where was New York Post? Where was any right-wing media going, these guys are getting railroaded? They just avoided it like the plague. So fuck them, fuck you, not you. And to go back to the moderate Muslims, like you need to speak out about radicalism. I think if there's a terrorist attack,

like the West Side Highway or whatever you want, you deport every single person in that guy's family, the cousins, everyone. And that way, when you hear, You're Rakata Malata Mashan talking about, you know, bombing the Boston Marathon. You expose him because you don't want to go back. That's what they do in Russia. They deport everyone remotely involved with the attack.

And that's the only way we're going to get moderate Muslims on our side because the only way to fix Islam is to get the moderates with us. We can't fix it. What are we going to do? Tell Osama bin Laden, he's a jerk. Is he still around? He might be. Some people probably believe he is.

I hope he's okay. I want to do a book reading. You were in New York City on 9-11, right? Yeah. That was rough. What was that like? Well, we're starting a whole new podcast, but one of the weirdest things was my black friend, Derek,

pretended his mother was in the building. Pretended. It took me 10 years. walking down the street and I was like, oh, he was lying. I'm not 100% positive, but it's, yeah. The problem with having Scottish parents is they're so honest that when people lie to you, it takes you like 10 years to go, wait a minute. Because he told me she was doing photocopies on the, on her like top floor of the World Trade Center.

Photocopy machine broke. So she went downstairs and went across the street to a kinko's. And she saw the building collapse from the kinkos where she was doing. her photocopying and her purse was on her desk still and I'm like oh you okay and then I went wait a minute there's no lower Manhattan is so fucking densely packed that your GPS doesn't work right the satellite can't find you right uh there's no like bay window where you're doing photocopies just watching buildings collapse but I fell for that but anyway um it was a fucking intense day we we saw it um um um

We thought it was a fire, obviously. I was with Andrew W.K. You ever heard of him? Of course. The night before, we're doing karaoke, Matt Sweeney. And Andrew W.K. went back to where he was staying in Brooklyn with his guitarist, Jimmy, something. I forget the guitarist name. But he was watching it on his TV.

And he goes over to Jimmy's bed. And he's like, dude, you got to wake up. The fucking World Trade Center's been attacked. and Jimmy goes, Andrew, what the fuck do you expect me to do about it now? And Andrew was like, I guess nothing? And then Jimmy went back to bed, snored away. So Andrew watched it by himself. But I was with my, who's now my wife, she was my girlfriend at the time.

And it went from fire to collapse. I didn't see the first plane. I definitely saw the second play with my own eyes, conspiracy theorists. Absolutely. Oh, you don't like the conspiracies. Well, I like, I actually, that's a great, a whole other Pandora's box. I was always like, look, it's Muslims, terrorism, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah.

And then, you know, not even COVID, but I think a lot of intelligent adults are like, well, I'm open to everything now. Not flat earth, but I'm open to like, they knew it was coming and they let it happen. I believe that's what happened with Pearl Harbor. Gulf of Ticomkin or whatever, if that even happened. October 7th. I think Israel allowed October 7th to happen. They'd had enough of this pit bull next door barking at their fucking kids when they came home from school

and they let the gate open and they let the pit bull bite one of the kids so they could kill the pit bull. It could be wrong, but that's what I believe. I've noticed that people, this is a little theory that I have. talking to the dude who wrote the looming tower that became a show, Steve DeLorris Wright. But he, I have this theory that basically, like, the people that were closest to 9-11 that were, like, there on the day or had family members that were in the building or, like, were super emotionally connected to that event are the ones that are, like, allergic to any

alternative theories. That was definitely the case. Yeah. And the people that are more disconnected who live maybe in the opposite side of the country or who were born later. They're the ones that are more open to like, ooh, there was fucking bombs. But that's also, that can be a fault where they're like, there's no way the second plane went in. There's no way there was any planes.

And I'm like, no, I saw the fucking second plane. I saw the first plane and I saw them collapse. My whole thing with 9-11 was I wish George Bush had said, we're starting to rebuild the World Trade Center on September 12th. Does that shirt say Gavin? Oh, Dovan. We rebuild it. And then my goal would be for British people to go,

there's no way that that ever happened. I mean, they've done, they've taken the bricks and they've done carbon dieting. And those bricks were the same bricks that were there in 1950. So the whole, and that's good. That's a great accident. Thank you. I like that because I want the terrorists to go,

fuck, these people don't even think we did that. Because right now it's this, You know when you have like a bug in your eye and you twist a napkin and you're like, that's what it looks like now. And it was $13 billion over budget. It was like 10 years past due date. So it's a giant testament to our incompetence and the effectiveness of a terror attack that cost 50 grand. So it is a beautiful shrine to Islamic terrorism and how incredibly effective they can be.

I mean, that's their mecca. They should go there and pray at how awesome they are. That wasn't my idea. I want a new... And I said that to a fireman once and he's like, you want your fucking kid working in there? And I go, I don't care if it's a silo for rice. I don't care if we store, use computers there.

I don't care if it's populated. I just want it to exist. Because it's a symbol that you can't, as suicidal tendencies would say, you can't bring me down. But apparently we can be brought down. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was a...

A lot of things were true at the same time. I think we definitely wanted an excuse to go into the Middle East. And I think the, I mean, obviously there's a lot of shit that came out with like Israel, not Israeli, but the Saudi intelligence people were here. Like they knew that there were Saudis here learning to fly, didn't give a fuck about learning how to land. You want to hear something crazy? Joe Biggs, Joe Biggs, who is a proud boy at January 6th. Uh-huh. His father-in-law was at the training camp for the terrorists.

Which training camp? The flying school for whatever, one of those towel hats who did it. Yeah, yeah, there was one down here in San Jose. And he was like, I got a bad feeling about this guy. Ah, whatever. Yeah. My instincts are probably wrong. Right.

And he's not feeling bananas about himself since then. Yeah. But I think my theory, and it could be wrong, that that's a beauty of, of, I'm glad that we're all skeptical. That's a good place to be. But my theory is that, you know, the World Trade Center had been attacked before. They lost like two security. security guards and I think George W. Bush was maybe it was passed on from Clinton and he said there's this guy someone bin Laden He's probably gonna attack the World Trade Center probably like kill four people and have a little fire

And then we can go destroy the Middle East for 10 years And he's like let's do it and then when he's reading that children's book Someone went up as like it actually ended up being like three thousand fucking people and he's like Wow, okay so not three That is a lot more than I had bargained for. Right. Holy shit.

And then we had a retarded war for... Yep. Forever. Yep. And I was thinking about the right and the left. They both want these retarded wars. They're both complicit in these... Yeah, right and left... Politicians.

You call it a uniparty. Netanyahu would love it a war in Iran. All these rhinos would love a war in Iran. Like, it's hard to think of politicians who don't want... global wars. Ron Paul, J.D. Vance, maybe. Like, there's three.

And you would think, like, comparing Islam to Christianity, like these other countries, these Middle Eastern countries, they are all bound together by this. You got pissed? You got to fart? Oh. Oh, wow. God damn.

That was a joke. I have, like, a fart machine in my pants with a microphone. and I pushed the button. Oh, really? It sounded like a fart, right? It sounded just like a fart. Yeah. That's a lot of technology.

Smells like roses, too. That's a thousand bucks. Oh, it sprays out a fake fart smell. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah. $1,200 that cost me. And the fart juice, the packets are $800 each. Really?

Where do you buy them? From my ass. From your asshole. Sorry. What were you saying? I forgot. Oh. The war mongers.

Muslim. Well, the Muslim countries. They're all. bound together by they're all they they all subscribe to the same ideology and religion in america it's not like that it's more fractured there's you know there's it's it's not the i don't know them i don't know the i would be curious to know what is the uh the breakdown of religions well canaan really red pilled me on this in his book death of the west which came out the same year as nine 11 and he's like how the fuck do you fight someone where death is a victory yes exactly that's the thing we see coffins with

American flags and it breaks 100% of Americans' hearts. I don't care if you're left wing, right wing. You see those coffins come out and you go, the Arab world sees that and they're like, fucking nailed it, dude. We don't have any people that are so devout in their religiosity or their faith that they're willing to strap a bomb to their chest. Correct. They do. If you love diving into culture and comedy, like on Danny Jones podcast, play off Hockey is right up your alley. NHL on T&T has the best coverage, making every game feel intense and unpredictable. Playoff hockey is a different level, overtime, big hits, and no-one coast.

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Valley, bringing all these folks in Silicon Valley in and just preaching Christianity. And trying to trying to paint everything Silicon Valley is doing now with like this Christian lens. Fantastic. Is that bad? You don't like that? I don't know. I don't have no, I don't think it's bad or good. I just think it's interesting. Yeah. Well, think of how many guys to go to prison and their lives are shit and then they start reading the Bible out of boredom. Yeah. And they get their whole fucking lives together. My brother wasn't in jail, but he was, he was lost.

and he started getting into the Bible and you know his marriage is fucking rock solid now he's making money so I think I think the best way to save someone is the Bible it's a great way to go and you see these people who eschew it and they're like we're having sober October

yeah that's Lent dude oh we're meditating do the thing that's church do you do the thing on your show where you paint the cross on your forehead like the guys on Foxx dude yeah I get my ashes every Lent Yeah.

And then I don't drink, I don't drink whiskey or any, I don't drink hard liquor for Lent. Wow. I found a hole in the plot. You're allowed to have it on Sunday. So I sit there looking at my watch on Saturday night and when 1159 rolls around fucking Maker's mark, blah, blah, blah, boop, and just get hammered from 12th. I usually pass up by 1210 because my immune system is down. But yeah, I do Lent.

It's great. Yeah. What's great about Lent is it shows you what you're addicted to. Interesting. Or no fap, right? No wanks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not allowed to jack off, right?

You're a proud boy. Right. So you don't jack off ever. Well, I may have fallen from grace once or twice, but the rule is you can ejaculate within a yard of your significant other. A yard. A yard. With her consent. So you can't jerk off while your wife's asleep.

but say she's pregnant or menstruating she could reach over and tickle your balls and you jerk off, you're still establishing a connection. Oh, right, I see. But jerking off to porn is demonic. That woman... Definitely not healthy. That woman was raped by her father and her uncle.

The guy she's fucking is gay. Why? That's just a fact. Really? The men... Guys in gay porn or guys in porn are gay. Guys is straight porn are gay. Really?

Yep. Ron Jeremy is gay? Well, that's... a different generation. Modern porn. They're all in meth. And the analogy I always use, they're all meth, yeah.

That's how they last so long. So imagine a gay meth head was banging the victim of sexual assault on the road outside right now. And like 30 dudes just showed up going, oh, yeah, you like that? Yeah, you probably like that. Isn't that the most horrific thing

you can conjure up outside of child? I don't think they're on meth, though. They're on math, dude. You've done Adderall. Adderall gives you like little like baby hard dick. Yeah, until you start fucking. Then it's a coconut smasher. Ask anyone.

That's Adderall. The same thing with Coke. Coke may gives you like different. No, no. Coke, you're not getting it up. Meth, they fuck for days. That's AIDS, by the way. AIDS is for meth because these f***es will fuck for 40 hours straight.

And I know a homo that got AIDS from that at a circuit party on meth. And I'm like, I go, what happened there? And he's like, oh, we fucked. It was like 36 hours of straight fucking. I go, Craig, if two praying mantises went like this for 36 hours, their bug dicks would be shredded. Yeah.

Like go like this for 36 hours. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to have a postulate hole in my face with like blood leaking out. It's not natural. No. But, yeah, that's all part of, they're on meth. meth is a fuck drug you didn't know that i had no idea math is for fucking i know that nazis did a lot of meth yeah well they fucked the jews pretty hard yeah yeah but then they lost ultimately lost the war

because they got two they they blitzed and they fucking ran out of meth and then they all were like ramped up for weeks and then all of a sudden the meth ran out then they were all like oh fuck we killed them we killed the soviets i guess won that Stalin won that war with just sheer numbers yeah Magic mine gives you a real grassy aftertaste for a while, right? It does taste like kind of like grass, doesn't it? Yeah. But you walk you wash it down with the beer and you won't taste it.

Okay. My fucking daughter. I love cans. I started wearing my clothes. So I put on my windbreaker, my barracuda Harrington, and I'm on the plane. I'm like, the fuck is. And I smell like a teenage girl. I've got her dumb, like teen perfume all over, all over me.

That's not a great story. died this morning. I know you thought that story sucked till the ending, right? Did you drink on the plane this morning? Did you start drinking early? No? No, I got here at like 11.

Great bar next door. I walked in, as I told you, they gave me a shot. And then the beauty of Proud Boys is no matter where you are, it can be a 10 buck too. And you're like, hey, guys, I got four hours to kill and I'm bored. Four trucks show up

and guys are ready to rock. It's the best, especially in Florida. There must be a chapter every 100 yards here. Really? Yeah. You get a chapter close to here? Yeah. Five minutes from here.

Five minutes from here. Yes. No way. It's great. Do you think you'll ever get your social media back? Absolutely not. Never. And I've talked to insiders.

It's crazy that you can get banned but Kanye's on there. Right. Well, I run a terrorist organization. Oh, yeah. I forgot. You were labeled. But that was by the Canadians label. It doesn't matter.

Everyone's, here's the key with. life. Everyone is scared of getting fired. Yes. Like Jack Kovorkian was killing people, right? He was doing euthanasia. Yeah. And no one cared.

But then he went on 60 minutes and he bragged and he was like, I do euthanasia. It's illegal. The FBI was like, dude, you're going to get me fired. It's my job to make sure you don't do that. So he got arrested and put away. Dreams for security. Yeah. You can't.

I think most police work is like, if you shoot someone, and you drag them into your house, just don't make me look bad. Like if you shoot someone in the back that's robbing your house and they fall on the driveway, I'm going to get in shit because I'm the captain of that particular precinct.

But if you drag them in and you wrestle with them and get blood on yourself, then good. And they don't care what's true or not. Most people just don't want to get fired. Yeah, that's very true. Except for you, you don't give a fuck.

I like getting fired. It's become my pastime. You stay true to your art. Sure, yeah. Well, God has provided me with plenty of guardian angels because I'm, I think I'm making, I'm making up for the fact that at Vice, I was like, fucking just party and do coke

and fuck tons of chicks. And that's a fun thing to do in your 20s, early 20s. And then I had kids and I was like, what the fuck? What a waste? Those party years. Like, when you have kids, you go, what was I doing?

What a ridiculous pantomime that whole thing was. Yeah. And now I've devoted myself to telling guys, put a ring on it, make a baby. What are you waiting for?

You want her, but with bigger tits? You've been with her for two years, dude. I have a lot of friends from high school. Most of them, actually. Most of my friends, I really don't have many, most of my friends that are like my real friends.

They've been my friends since, like, eighth grade. And a lot of them still don't have kids. Yeah, and they're like, they're pushing 40 now. I think that is the trauma of divorce. They go, because they always go, I'm glad my parents split up. They're fighting all the time. Yeah, no, you were deeply traumatized by that divorce, and you don't want to mimic it.

You don't think love exists. You don't think devotion exists. And you're scared, you're going to do to your kids what your parents did to you. Yeah. So I don't want to create kids. Why hurt them the way I was hurt? But when we were kids, you'd see the divorce kids, and they're like, I got two sets of presents, man.

I go, dad's presence, mom presents. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, that's great when you're 13. But it spreads out. And I swear to God, just like you, I look up my high school friends in the 80s and 50% of them have kids. Yeah. That's not good. And people blame the Jews and they go, oh, the Jews have taught us to hate ourselves.

Okay, whatever. Did they really blame the Jews for that? They blame the Jews for everything. Yeah. I think divorce. That's the thing. That's definitely a new thing. Divorce magically traumatized Gen X, Gen X and down.

Divorce was trauma. My parents divorced when I was really young. And I never thought. I never wanted kids until my wife hooked me in. That's exactly what I'm talking about. I met my wife when she was, it was like the day after she turned 19. And I was like somewhat successful for my, I was like 23, maybe 24. What were you doing then?

I was doing, I was doing documentaries, filming. documentaries. Okay. And like doing advertising, like making commercials and stuff like that. Because I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, the poor kid who, uh, I was able to convince all my rich, because I had a lot of rich friends and I was able to convince all of their parents to hire me to make commercials for their companies. Great. And, um, so I was making, and people would go, yeah, he had it handed to him. He had, he knew rich kids. Okay, you go make a commercial for, uh, the rich people that he was handed to. You know what I mean?

A lot of the kids, though, a lot of those kids with rich parents, they ended up, it didn't amount to anything. Yeah. But I was like, I was making decent money in my early and 20s. And then I met,

I met her and I was like, what do you want to do when you grow up? She's like, I just want to be a mom. I want to raise kids. I'm like, oh, you fucking loser. Yeah, why, why give away what feminism gave you? I was like, you don't have any ambitions.

You don't want to, you don't want to have a career. You don't want to be an entrepreneur. Like, that's what, that's what I was thinking in my head. And then when we had our first kid how fucking amazing that was,

how liberating that was, to have like somebody who dedicates every fiber of her being to want to create a good human where I can keep doing my bullshit and not have to worry about it and not have to worry about raising a fucked up traumatized kid. Then I realized how fucking magical that was.

Yeah, it's been taken away from us by all this bullshit hipster left wing culture. And you make one and you go, what the fuck was I doing? I'm glad I did. did Coke from 9 p.m. to 9 a.m. rather than make a life and go to a kids baseball game. Like what if, and the Coke night, you don't remember one second of it. It's gone. Meanwhile, my kids' baseball games, I could tell you, you know, that he didn't get a double because they threw it to home.

So it was actually technically a single, though he did get on second. They robbed us of that. And it was boomers, mostly. It was the boomers? Boomers invented divorce. So it wasn't the Jews. Well, this is the problem. Jews are exceptional whites. You look at the Nobel Peace Prizes.

You look at the Fields Medal in mathematics. You're going to see a wildly disproportionate number of Jews. Why is that? Well, one reason might be in Jewish culture, they value intellectualism, especially Israelis. But in Arab culture, who's the toughest guy? you get the hottest chick. This is kind of true of the

Glaswegian culture too where my parents are from because my dad got a really hot wife because he was a brawler. But in Jewish culture, it's you, you're an academic. So you'll meet like a rabbi

or a really smart Jew and his wife will be a fucking smoke show. That's their thing. So what you end up breeding is low-tie high- IQ people. Right. And that's interesting. Low-tie high- IQ people.

Yeah. Arabs are the opposite. their low IQ high tea. Sorry. Which is what's so weird about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Like you have these... They're genetically the same fucking people.

No, no. There's been a study done. They're literally... Check their IQs and check their testosterone. So a Palestinian will launch a rocket over to the Jew side. And the beauty... The ideal thing about terrorism is you go like this.

And then the people over there discussed that for like a week. that's what terrorism is. I just want to do one little thing and make you all scared for months. Yeah. So they'll launch a rocket there and the Jews are like,

well, what did it mean? Maybe we should have said, blah, blah, blah. Meanwhile, an Arab, you just fucking blow their head off and they're like, whatever, I'll kill you. So they don't pontificate the way the Jews do.

And I think we see that with... Well, that's because of... Well, their low IQ you think is because of the inbreeding, right? I think it's the culture of... They don't value intelligence in the Arab world. Yeah. They value machismo. Different.

Yeah. There's definitely different cultures, definitely different values. And I'm sure there's been an evolution of the gene pool over the years. But I know there was a study done, like a legitimate study that proved that their genetics were exactly the same. Like they come from the same people. I think it's the Canaanites. Yeah, they come from the same people. But look at, like, ask a Palestinian what 111 plus 17 is.

And Israelis are inventing pills that have cameras on them where you take it and then you watch your digestional track. This is why I don't think Israel should receive any more money. And a lot of Israelis are the same way. They're like we have cell phone technology. We have medical technology. We don't like the stigma of this money. It's only $3 billion. We don't want it.

We got our own money going on. Like Israel's not propped up by America. Israel has got its own shit going on. Definitely, yeah. But we are sending them billions of dollars for their war. Like we're sending them tons of money. Yeah, stop. Stop.

And it's not like online. You see, like you were saying, everyone paints it with like, as in like the Jews are doing this genocide. It's all the Jews. And then you have all these people like Candace and, you know, a whole bunch of people around her on the internet

where it's like there's legitimate on X. There's like a huge fucking, I mean, I hate you calling people Nazis. But like, if you look at these people's profiles, they're hardcore anti-Jews. I think the real impetus behind that is anti-white racism.

But it's not like... At college campuses at least, the whole fuck Israel, free Palestine, that's anti-white racism. There's Sudan, there's Syria, there's a million Middle East conflicts that no one is remotely interested

in. Yeah, yeah. Yet when there's a white-on-brown conflict, all of a sudden they give a fuck about foreign wars. I don't trust you. I think it's and it's just proportionally perpetuated by secular Jews, the whole concept of fuck white people. So you have these anti-white white people, mostly a lot of them are Jews too. The kids are Jews. Like these Jews are setting, these secular Jews are sending their kids to Harvard, Yale, St. Andrews in Scotland. Their kids are coming back going, fuck Israel. So they've created a gollum and I don't think they know what to do with

it and I'm sitting here in my Jewish neighborhood going, you said it was me, you said it was the Maga Hats, it turns out it's not us, turns out it's your allies, overly educated Marxists, refugees, Palestinians, blacks,

all your heroes want you dead. And I've been sitting here just like this the whole time and you kept putting Nazi signs on my lawn. Wrong bad guy, fuckheads. Well, yeah, I mean, I've had a lot of, I've seen, I've talked to a lot of Jews. I have a group of a lot of friends who are Jews.

And I've had people on here who are literally Jews from Israel who are like, they call themselves anti-Zionist Jews. Oh, yeah. They don't agree with the Israeli government. No one understands that too in America that you read like Israeli press and it reads like David Duke. There's like, there's super conservative Zionist Jews in Israel. But there's ones that want the wall taken down. Right. They fucking hate this war.

They love Palestine. Right. It's like, I don't, it's like, it's like much more wide range than here. Yeah. It's like, it's like the war after 9-11, like the Iraq war. Like, I'm an American, but that doesn't mean I want to be associated with Bush Cheney. Yeah. Like those people are.

That's how they see Netanyahu. Got a piss again. Yeah, that's how they see Netanyahu. Go piss. Where do you piss? Do you have a secret pisser? Yeah. Whoa, fancy.

I do. I'm dubious of guys who are really angry at, me for liking Jews because they kind of smell like Jews. Every time you like get to the bottom of some major... They're suspicious of you for liking Jews. Yeah, I think they're Jews who are... They want to keep their enemies closer. So when you like see a real sting on like a white nationalist group,

the leader tends to be secretly Jewish. Hmm. Interesting. Yeah. So don't trust like some super Nazi dude. because he wants to recruit Nazis so he can have his Nazis in his pocket and, you know, keep your enemies close.

Well, everything's an op nowadays. Nothing's real anymore. Dude, I saw this thread on AI and it wasn't just only fans' girls that are making a million dollars that don't exist, but like a stand-up comedian going, I went to the zoo and they only had one animal there.

It was a dog. It was a shit zoo. The guy was fake. The joke was fake. Like, everything was fake. Yeah. This is actually good news, though. Is it?

Yes. Because we've become so addicted to our phones and only fans and dating online and then seeing the girl and she's ugly, whatever, that soon people are going to be like, well, fuck the phone. I need to see you. I need to talk to you.

Like sales. The old days in the 70s and 80s, a salesman would have to get on a plane, like planes range in automobiles. And go and say, this is my Budweiser cans. What do you think? And pitch it.

Mad men. Yeah, like, or Chris Farley, right? Like, you have to sell it. And now that everything is fake online, Zoom calls, like, no, I need to see you in person. Yeah. I just smell your fear of it. and see if you're full of shit.

Yeah, I think you're right about that. Tucker Carlson said that to me once. He was talking about some guy we both know, and he's like, that guy's gay. And I go, where the fuck did you get that from? I've known him for 26. Tucker? Yeah, 25 years. And he goes, I saw the way he kissed his wife and I saw the way his daughter looked at him when he kissed his wife.

Gay. And Tucker's very funny and raunchy. outside of TV. Yeah. He's sort of like... He's like a... He's sort of like Dave Portnoy kind of a guy.

No, he seems more like a... Like a frat boy. Yeah, yeah. Like a... Who's eastbound and down? Kenny Powers? He's like a smart Kenny Powers. No, he's nothing like Kenny Powers.

Yes, he is. He's the fucking opposite of Kenny Powers. So he goes, that guy's gay. And I'm like, how do you know? And he goes, and he goes, and I go, that's not evidence, dude. What? See, Kiss.

his wife, you saw him for one second? And he goes, we've been around for a quarter of a million years. Okay? If someone wants to kill us, we sense it. The ones who can't sense it, they're extinct. So we meet people face to face. We have smells. We can tell who wants to fuck us, who wants to kill us, who isn't a threat, who could be a good pal.

That's evolution. We're constantly like smelling. We're like dogs. Smelling people. That's funny. So when I say this guy's gay, I'm not just basing it on one second. I'm basing it on 250,000 years. Yeah.

Well, Tucker, that's funny coming from him because he doesn't believe in evolution. He believes that evolution's fake. In what sense? I don't know. He said it on Joe Rogan. He's like, evolution? Ha! We believe that.

Well, there's nuance to that, right? Of course. There's people who say giraffes have tall necks because the ones with short necks got less food. But then there's the creationists that say God made short girass, tall girass, super tall girass. And these guys died out. I don't know. It seems like six and one half a dozen or the other than me. Can I get another fucking beer, please?

Yeah, I got him another beer. He's a great guy, Tuck. Did you see his interview with Putin? Yeah. I love the part where Putin was ribbing him about trying to apply for the CIA. He tried to apply for a job at the CIA. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. I got a lot of friends who think Tucker is an op. Maybe. The thing about these ops is... Everyone thinks everyone's an op on the internet. You've got to look at what they've done. Like, say Charlie Kirk was a Fed, right? The good he's done for red-pilling young people,

I don't care if he works with Satan and goes back to hell every night. Like, we win. He's red-pilled, I'm going to say millions of people, millions of young men. So if you're a Fed, then you're doing a real bad job. And Tucker too. Like the government, the federal government is definitely pro-Israel.

Tucker is pretty anti-Israel. He's very Pap Buchanan, paleo-conservative. Definitely. Especially recently. Yeah. It's just interesting seeing like his podcast and all the people that are going to his podcast now and like, you know, he's doing all these like,

like, woo-woo topics, like talking about UFOs and like angels and demons and child traffic. is like completely like kind of like a way like a he's going on a way different road than he was going on when he was on Fox which is understandable to an extent I don't want to take my own their own they're not controlling his own but I did say back when he was at Fox I go I sent him the data and the data is people will pay seven percent of the people who watch you for free will pay I go you're getting like three million views yeah seven percent of three million is over $100.

I don't know the exact math. It's time to... I'm not saying he quit Fox because of me, but I think I helped him realize how... And I got this from Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan said to me, when you have a substantial following, it's stupid not to charge

and let other people get rich off you. Like even YouTube. Why are you getting all my fucking money? Right. So if you can get up to like even 100,000, thousand people who want to hear what you have to say. It's time to fucking, yeah. Like, where is, are you just YouTube?

YouTube, Spotify. So you're, like, the second they don't like you, which could be this podcast. This could be the last one. This could, this might very well be the last one. There's a sort of Damocles like, I decided no one can hear you anymore. Right.

Right. And if I was like you, I would just not give a fuck and let them ban me. Yeah. I got kids to feed. I have to, I have to. You will feed plenty of kids. I've seen your views. I wouldn't be here if your views went good.

Oh, really? You could pay your bills with a subscription service. Well, we have Patreon. Have you heard of Patreon? I'm familiar with Patreon. It's where people go to watch the uncensored shit. Yes. Is your banned from Patreon?

Of course, dude. What? I didn't even know that was cool. I'm banned from Mondays. When I go to bed at night on Sunday, I wake up it's Tuesday morning. I have no idea how that happened. Did all these bands happen on the same? day. Yes, October 12th, 2018.

So they all got together and said, let's ban Gavin. It was before the midterms. They were looking, maybe I didn't finish that story. It was before the midterms. They were looking for right-wing violence. Mike told me to bring some pillows. The Jew I fired for being a Nazi. We left the pillows

at the studio, 17-second fight, four years in prison for Max and John, and I became persona non-grada overnight. I was a rock star in the suburbs, because in the suburbs they're all nerds and they're like, oh, you're from New York City

like my kids were all born in New York City so we were all very popular and then one day my daughter was like eating lunch alone literally within 24 hours and you know it's funny about it they're like let's say my daughter's name is Margaret which it isn't Margaret's dad wants Maria to be deported

like their fear was their maids in rich white suburbs they love diversity of servants That's why they always go, what, you don't like diversity? You can have Somalian food one night. You can have Mexican food the other night. You can have, so you're talking about a variety of people serving you. Right.

It's for the elites. Yes. Diversity. It's a diversity of servants. Yeah. I think you're totally right about that. You think you and Shane will ever get back together, be friends again? Absolutely not.

Never. Fuck no. I know. I mean, it's so extreme. It would be funny. It would be like, it would be like Jesus meeting Satan. Do you ever like have a, do you ever like think like late at night one day, be like, man, it'd be so nice to just throw the water under the bridge, Budweiser under the bridge. I sometimes have dreams like that, actually. Sometimes I have dreams where Sirush and I and Shane are friends. And then I wake up and go, yeah. I have one, I only have one friend like that that completely burned the bridge that we never talked to again. We've really close friends. And we actually became not friends recording a podcast.

Really? Yeah. What was the beef about? The beef was about we were doing a podcast with a guy who was explaining that he believes racism isn't real. And my good friend from high school. I kind of believe that. Well, it depends. That's a subjective way to phrase it, but whatever.

He says it doesn't exist in America. There's no such thing as racism in America. His anti-white racism is what he was saying. Yeah. Okay. And he goes, and he was explaining how. how his wife, who is Filipino, her mom wasn't allowed to drink at certain water fountains, you know, back in the day. And there was segregation. Like there's Jim Crow, like there obviously

has been racism in America in the past. And their shirt is absolutely echoes of it today still. And he was like, no, there's not. And they were going back and forth. And then my friend who was sitting right there, he said, you know what? I can't be here anymore. And he got up and tried to walk away. And then the guy was sitting here was like, what do you go? What are you walking away for? I was like, what are you doing? We're just having a conversation, blah, blah, blah. And my friend who's extremely, you know, artsy fartsy, graphic designer, liberal dude, married to a Filipino lady. He was like, no, fuck you. And this guy was like super jacked, like six foot five ex-military guy. Like me. Yeah, exactly. Same guy. Yeah. And my friend's standing back there. And he turns around and he goes,

he goes, fuck you. He said, and they, the exact thing he called him, I remember it, like it was yesterday. He said, you're a fucking backwards UFO-believing piece of shit military asshole. Right in his face. To the big guy? Or the big guy said that to the smile. My nerd friend said that to the big guy. Oh, my God. And the big guy got up,

threw him to the ground. My friend got into the field. Here, like right here. Right there. Knock the camera over. Is this all on camera? Yeah, I never released it. Oh, you got to release it, dude. That's gold. I didn't want it. Yeah, it's gold. Right. If I wanted the views, I could get them. But I didn't, I just, it didn't get them. It felt gross.

And he was, the fetal position like this while this guy's standing over him about to beat the living fuck out of him. I pulled the big guy off of my friend and he eventually got out. So me and my other buddy who my actually I forgot to mention I had out my other buddy here. We were all three really good friends from high school. We went and grabbed a 24 pack of beer, went to his house, tried to like talk him down. Be like, yo, it's all right, bro. Everything's cool. Don't worry about it. Whatever. He calls me after that the next morning he calls me. He's like, hey, we're done. We can't be friends anymore. Yeah. You know what's going on here.

Humiliation. He was so fucking embarrassed. And he's never been in a fight before. Yeah. Well, let me guess. He has no brothers. He has a big brother, yeah. He has a big brother. Was the big brother around or? His big brother was in prison for like seven years.

Okay. So was his big brother in his life? Because I noticed when you play fight with guys who don't have big brothers, they had a lot of money. They get like real fucking violent. Right. No, he had never been like a legit. legitimate fight before. Like that, I mean, you can tell. Because if he would have done that to a guy at a bar, he would have got the living shit beat out of him.

Which guy? The wimp or the, big guy. If you point in some big, some guy who's obviously has 100 pounds on you is like jacked out of his mind on steroids and there's like an ex-military guy. You don't call him a back one-o-one. Piece of shit military asshole.

You're going to get curb stomped. The worst you do with those kind of guys is like, all right, all right. You're the big tough guy. I get it. Jim Norton said to Jesse Venture. He was like, okay, you're Jesse Venture. You're the tough guy.

Whatever, whatever. He wasn't like, what you're going to do, bitch? Right. Yeah, he's embarrassed. But like, I still think about it, my friend all the time. I'm like, man, I'm like, we were like brothers. Yeah, it's a weird thing with dudes, man, when you split up like that. Yeah.

And girls too It's not like girls don't fucking have a best friend forever That they lose for some weird Like my wife lost all their friends Because of proud boys Oh really And she's trauma Like she's she has PTSD now

Like she's not interested in friends And I'm like Our neighbors won an auction Where we get to go to an Italian dinner together And they have four tickets And she's like Yeah I don't want Really get a root canal

She's happy She started boxing and stuff. Really? So she's, her head screwed on straight. But she doesn't like blow jobs enough, unfortunately. But, um. Doesn't like giving them.

Yeah. Well, she doesn't get them. She doesn't have a penis. Right. But, uh, that's nice. That's good.

Yeah. That's one of my favorite things about her, actually. I write that out our anniversary card. Still loving that you don't have a penis. Those are my pet peeve when it comes to lovemaking. Oh, God.

That's fucking funny. But it is interesting how these couples, you know, friendships split. And it's never over anything real. I mean, with Vice, we're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. So it's fair that we want to murder each other. Right.

I would give them a friendship for $100 million. I hate those guys, yeah. But you got paid out good, though, right? I did pretty good. You were a third of the company, right? And the company was valued at least, what, $100 million back then? Yeah, at least, probably more than that. Sure.

And I've made, I mean, I had an ad agency after that that made a ton of money. We sold it to Havas. And then with the subscription service, it's 40,000 subscribers paying $10 a month. Because we merged with Anthony Coomia. Yeah, okay. Now he gets half of that, but we do very well with that.

But like most of my money just sits in the bank. Like my dad offered me his apartment in Florida yesterday because he thinks he's dying. And I'm like, you know, eventually. And I'm like, okay, does that hurt my, like, is that going to affect my taxes? I'm not sure I want your apartment in Florida. Well, there's definitely less taxes in Florida.

Being dirt poor sucks. Yes. But once you get to like, it's just a stressful, over 100 grand, we're all basically the same. Like Jeff Bezos is on a fancy yacht. That's great.

I don't think, like you can rent a boat for the day. You can, you can, yeah, you can spend a thousand bucks renting a boat. You know what I mean? It would be cool to have a private jet, but you can buy first-class tickets.

Yeah. So I'm not denying that poverty is a bummer, but once you get to, like, middle class, eh. Yeah. So you could have like a million bucks and live like you had a hundred million bucks. Well,

my most prized possession is my 2000 Jaguar. It's an XJR. It's worth $17,000. If I totaled it, Geico would probably pay me It's not considered valuable And I fucking love that thing Yeah

It's the last of good looking cars Before they started turning into cough drops What year was it again? 2000 2000. 2000 Jaguar XJR Type it in let's see what it looks like What color is it?

Black all cars should be black Yeah There it is That's my babes I call it Jesus Because I've totaled it twice Black Jesus.

Look at that fucking thing. Yeah, that thing is pretty sick. Jaguars look like absolute shit now. Well, they're all electric. Yeah. Or even like, they have the electric jaguar that makes the fake sounds, the fake exhaust. What's worse than that? It plays the music.

It plays the sound effects. It's like crocs. We're going back in time. Why do you mean crocs so much? Why don't you? Because they're convenient. Oh, my God. Are you washing your boat?

If you're not washing your boat, you're not wearing crocs. At the airport, we're at 70% crock rate. In the South Bronx with the blacks, they're at, they just this month, they hit 100% crock rate. Really? 100%. Like, it's Friday night, you're going out with your wife. Not that blacks have wives, but fucking. Not that blacks have wives.

Jesus Christ. Everywhere you fucking go, blacks are wearing fucking. Crocs. And not just blacks. My kids. Everyone. They're friends. I know a guy who's like a 400 pound New York, Brooklyn Jew who now lives in Florida. Guys, he's probably he has like $500 million with

real estate. He's like a slum lord. And he's so fat, all he can wear is crocs. He's so fat. That's what we hear. Shit, I might have to get the airport, bro. What time is it? 518? Okay. All right, let's wrap it up. My flight's at times it leave?

Seven. Seven? Okay. Yeah, well, I gotta go now. Okay. I gotta go now! Let's wrap it up. All right, that's all. Tell people where they can watch your stuff on YouTube, or not on YouTube, I'm sorry. On your website. Censor.com. You cannot watch me on, uh, shit, I'm late. You cannot watch me on anything but censored. Dot TV. That's why I'm there. Well, you'll be able to watch you. There's interviews with you on YouTube, other people have done, which is nice. At least you're not censored in that way. Are there? A few. Maybe. Yeah. Okay. Censored. TV. I'll link it. Thanks for having me, Guy. Great show. Fun times.

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