Danny Jones Podcast - #367 - Ex-CIA Operative: Most Dangerous Weapon Ever Created is Already in Use | Dale Comstock

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

Watch every episode ad-free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Dale Comstock is a Special Forces Operator, CIA paramilitary operative, Black Ops Expert, and Mercenary. He has served in Delta Force, the Green Berets, & CIA Ground Branch Unit. Currently he is a mercenary-for-hire around the world. SPONSORS https://amentara.com/go/DJ - Use the code DJ22 for 22% off your first order. https://shopify.com/dannyjones - Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial & start selling today. https://takeultra.com - Use code DANNY for 15% off your first order. https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/zralgyl0 - Download Cash App today! https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off EPISODE LINKS https://www.dalecomstock.com https://www.instagram.com/officialamericanbadass FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Commander Comstock's military background 01:53 - Al Qaeda put a fatwa on Dale 08:29 - American citizens trapped abroad 10:34 - Modelo prison raid vs Venezuela Maduro capture 18:26 - How the Modelo mission got compromised 22:03 - The 70-pound equipment kit for a military raid 25:34 - Flying into Modelo prison 29:04 - Dale's breaching error during the prison raid 34:21 - Surviving helicopter crashes 41:29 - Delta Force's role in Operation Absolute Resolve (Venezuela) 45:12 - Delta Force selection criteria is a secret 49:29 - Why some men kill & some don't 57:30 - Fearlessness vs. courage vs. confidence 01:00:24 - Directed energy weapons in Venezuela 01:02:28 - Trump's secret plan for Greenland 01:07:46 - The ch**d tra**icking network WORSE than Epstein 01:12:39 - "We've engineered our extinction" 01:16:12 - AI is not "artificial" 01:21:05 - Universal basic income thanks to AI 01:30:50 - WW3 has already started 01:36:48 - Who's to blame for fatal ICE shooting 01:41:09 - ICE killings 01:47:50 - The problem with taxes in 2026 01:49:38 - The San Francisco fentanyl crisis 01:55:40 - The mission Dale regrets 01:57:10 - The final ambush that made Dale quit 02:01:33 - Enhanced interrogation gone wrong 02:03:59 - Billy Waugh tracking Bin Laden 02:07:45 - Dale's relationship with Billy Waugh 02:18:18 - Were there 2 snipers at the Butler assassination attempt? 02:25:16 - Strange details about Las Vegas sh***ing 02:31:25 - Real reason behind Las Vegas sh***ing 02:32:37 - Best theory on Charlie Kirk's death 02:40:47 - Who's behind Charlie Kirk's death 02:43:11 - Simple explanation behind 9/11 02:47:57 - What happened to Bin Laden's body 02:49:21 - Drone warfare & future weapons 02:54:42 - Evidence that aliens have been on Earth 03:00:58 - Book of Enoch left out of the Bible 03:07:42 - Scientific explanation for a higher power 03:14:28 - The sixth sense we all have 03:16:21 - Dale's belief we "never die" 03:24:52 - The power of manifestation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Commander Comstock, welcome back, sir. Thanks for having me back. I'm excited to talk to you again, man. Fellow Floridian, but you're also a globe-trotting as well in all kinds of places. But for people that aren't familiar, just give yourself quick background rundown of your history and all that so people know. So, all right. Yeah, I was a former U.S. military. I spent 10 years in the Delta Force, Delta Force operator.

It was a Green Barreay, light and heavy weapons expert. It was a paratrooper. Right when 9-11 happened, I retired. I ended up working for OGA for almost 10 years doing the same thing. And then concurrently built several companies in parallel while I was doing that, sold those companies. And long story short, I ended up in Hollywood, circa 2011, making movies. Didn't pursue that.

Just have my chance. And then I did that for a few years, realized that being Hollywood is not, kind of, it's not my shtick. And it was fun, but different culture, right? So I ended up from there moving to Hong Kong, and I worked over there, helped to protect a multi-billionaire investment banker. And so I lived in Hong Kong. And then that's why I met my wife, who was out in the studio right now. She's from Indonesia. And that was almost 11 years ago. I can't even believe time's gone by so fast. But anyway, she went back to Indonesia. I did what the guys do, right? I followed her in Indonesia and started hanging out with her in Jakarta and long story

short, we started a company. We now have three companies down in Bali and that's where we live is in Bali. That's one of the places we live. We also live here in Panama City Beach, Florida. So that's a general overview of who I am, what I've done when I'm traveling. What's the deal with this fatwa? You had like some crazy hit on you. Yeah. I don't know why. I thought we talked about it last And this is recent. Yeah, so May of 2024, I get a, actually my roommate. I have a roommate in Florida in my apartment there. He said, hey, man, the FBI is here looking for you.

And they left a business card. I said, well, do you know what they want? He goes, no. He said, I try to call them as soon as you get a chance. And this time I was in the Philippines. And so with the time change, I'm like thinking, Jesus Christ, what did I, you know, it's daytime there, so I got to wait until the morning and make the phone call. And I'm sitting there thinking, man, what do they want?

And what's the FBI want, right? Did I, you know, misgender somebody? You use the wrong pronoun? I'm like, what did I freaking do, right? And so the next day, I get a hold of them. And the agent I spoke to, I guess he was at a grocery store or something. He goes, I need to step outside because I have a duty to warn you. And I'm like, oh, shit, duty to warn me for what?

What did I do, right? So he goes outside, and he says, we have good intelligence that you have become a priority target for Al-Qaeda. through their intelligence network. And I got this also from some private networks as well. So they all came out and said the same thing. But basically AQ put out, you know, I don't know if a fatwa is the correct term.

It may be similar, but basically they put out a hue and cry globally to any Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda affiliates, lone wolves that I am a priority target. And if they see me, to just take me out, you know, good luck with that. But that's the mission. So I've been literally, you know, so this is not like there's a limitation to it. This is for the rest of my life. Right. And so the worst part is when I notified the U.S. government, so at the time I'm living in Indonesia,

and I'm like, I go to the embassy and I told them what happened, showed him the letter from the FBI. I spoke to Leagat, which is the FBI liaison at the embassy. and the RSOs, everybody else should be concerned with this. And I said, listen, I said, I have a credible threat against me. I'm in their backyard because we have J-I-J-A, we have AQ affiliates. There's a lot of bad guys in Indonesia and that whole part of that world particularly. And so what happened was the reason I made a big deal out of it was it is a big deal, but the reason it's even a bigger deal for me is three years ago, a little over three years,

years ago, my wife was deported, although we'd been in the United States several times, married in the U.S., everything's up and up. She got, what happened was we came back during COVID. We could not go back to Indonesia because of travel restrictions. So three weeks turned into three months, turned into six months at about the six month mark. She was hit by a sheriff's patrol car one night at 90 miles an hour in a high speed pursuit. She was sitting as a passenger in a park car in the turning lane when he rear-ended her, literally 90 miles an hour, put everybody in the hospital. So while she was going through physical therapy for that, they discovered she had cancer. So now she got to go through cancer treatment.

So now we're over the six-month mark, which we honestly didn't know we had a six-month limit to five-year unlimited visa, right? And I'm like, I asked the question, I go, well, if we had left at, you know, five months and 29 days, for one day, we came back, would that have started the clock again? He'd go, no, you have to be gone for a year. None of this added up, none of it makes sense. None of it's actually true, right? It was all just some CBP officer

pulling some crap out of his ass is what it was happening. Long, very long story short, they ended deporting my wife. I had everything. I had her money, credit cards, clothes. I had everything on me when they grabbed her, right? She's literally wearing shorts and flip flops, you know, and a t-shirt. And they literally deported her.

Don't you got somebody you can call? Dude, I called everybody. I called everybody. Lawyers. I called congressmen. And this is the crazy part. Nobody had any effect whatsoever. They were basically, even when the congressman

AIDS from Florida call, and she said, hey, at least send somebody out so he can give her her wallet, her money, some credit cards, you know, a jacket, you know, a phone charger, right? And they refused to even do that. And the first question asked my wife when they rolled her up, it goes,

is your husband Dale Comstock? She's like, yeah. and they got on the phone. It's him, and that's when the shit show started. So this is why I know it's personal. They already had an agenda. I already knew they had an agenda, right? So, I mean, when you have the chief of immigration,

the former one, not the current one, but the former one, when he tells me, you know, sometimes you got to take responsibility for the choice you make in life, I want to reach that phone and pull his freaking trache out of his freaking neck because I'm the guy that stood between American, American families, and the bad guys all these years. I'm still doing it. Right?

And now that I'm on the X, they're telling me, well, you're on your own. Like, listen, I said, I don't want nothing. I don't want no money. I don't want no security. I don't want nothing for me.

I just want passage for my wife. So if I have to get out of here, I can't. That's all I want. Give me a visa. I don't care. Right. You know, the green card's not that important.

Anyway, nothing happened. And so until back a few months ago, I finally, I sat in and thinking about it. I had everybody tried to help me. I'm not going to name names here. Right. But I had some very, prominent people at the government level and they had zero juice. Either they didn't care or they

just have no power or the former regime is still so embedded that they're not making any progress, right? So I ended up calling the RSO's office one day. I thought about it's like, let me call him and tell him that I think this is in his wheelhouse because I think this is a security issue, right? And I don't know why I never thought of it before. So lucky for me, the ARSO answered the phone. I won't mention his name, but he seemed like a younger guy and a relatively new guy. And when I told him what happened, he lost his shit. It's like, dude, he goes, I'll take care of this.

And by the next morning, I had two people from the embassy call me. And they're like, hey, we're going to get this sorted out. Your wife don't need an interview. She just needs the physical. And that is it. Basically, she were going to hand her the green card and game over. I go, that's how easy this, this is it, that's it, you know. And so, and here we are.

You know, after all this time and all the shenanigans, and I was just telling you before the show, you know, nobody's coming, man. And it's not just me, by the way. I've got several Americans that I know of personally that are literally in a similar situation abroad and they can't get out. I got a guy right now trapped in Ukraine with his family, literally being droned. He's literally, he's literally American dude? Yeah, an American. He's literally rolling up Russians and Ukrainian defectors in his barn. Okay.

And he can't get out. He can't leave, right? Because his family is Ukrainian, but he's an American. And I'm like, man, at some point. So has he been in a part of the war there? Or is he? No, he just lived there. He just lived there.

Yeah. So he's a former military guy, you know. And through, you know, service, he met her, the wife and the kids and ended up selling Ukraine. And then got caught up in the war. And now he can't get off the X because. they're not American citizens. And so I've been trying to help him, but I can't even help myself.

I couldn't even help myself, let alone him at this point, right? I've had other guys similar situations in Dubai. I had a guy in Vietnam. I think we talked about this last time. I actually went and got him out. I should be careful what I say and how I say it. But basically, you know,

I've literally walked Americans across borders. You extracted him? I've literally on my own, went and got him and walked him across borders and got him out and got him back to freedom. you know, there's, yeah, and every guy that I've dealt with so far has had the same story. He goes to the embassy and they're like, well, you should get a lawyer. It's like, I live on the street.

I have a backpack because I have no passport because the government took it. I can't get a job. I can't leave. I need help. Dude, I've gone through all this. It's sad, man, how people are, especially veterans are being treated. But this particular guy wasn't even a veteran. He's just a civilian, you know, and I would do it for anybody.

I heard the story and he told me what was going on and I believed him and I was right and at least he's free. I got him out. I'm one of several guys. Another guy finally got himself out. I don't know what he had to do to make that happen, but he ended up in jail for a while before. But how many military operations like that prison kidnapped the prison? What was like you rendered some people out of a prison? A medulla prison?

That operation. Like how many like high stakes precision military operations have you been a part of? Was that CIA or was that? Okay. So let me just, okay, let me talk about Modela prison. And then I'll show you present day Venezuela. Yeah. I'll show you kind of the corollary there, right?

So. And also are you still tapped in or tied into that world at all? Do you have any connections to the inside? Zero. None. Yeah. I've been out for a long time. Right.

I'm the guy with the big mouth that wrote a book about Delta Force, right? I just think, because I hear the stories of Billy Wall all the time, and Billy, like, stayed in. Like, he was, no matter what, he, I think he kept doing operations into his 80s, right? Yeah, yeah, he did. Billy Wals actually went on handlers. So, yeah, it's a funny story, too. I know you told me that right after we finished recording that last episode. You said, Billy Wall was my handler.

I was like, what the fuck? We got to restart the podcast. Yeah. So going back to Modelo, Prudel. real quick. So this happened December 20th, 1989. And Noriega was in power. At some point, you know, he was being, you know, he was working for the CIA and then he went rogue and the drugs and all the stuff that was going on. And he started killing Americans and, you know, became, you know, he became Maduro basically and Salam Hussein. It just became another tyrant. Right. And the U.S.

government decided that he needs to go and we need to, we need to change the regime. So, At that time, and this is not classified, it's been on history channel, discovery channel. Sometimes I question the accuracy, but so the mission was, so they, so scoot to your right just a little bit. Noriega had already arrested a guy named Kurt Mews. So Kurt Mews, according to Kurt Mews, was just a businessman doing business in Panama. He started a Rotary Club, right? That's all bullshit because he actually admits in one video where CIA, donated some radios to him in Miami, right? So whatever. He was there and what he was doing was running SIGAN, basically running a counter-off against Noriega's regime using particularly much, particularly uses radios and things like that. For example, Noriega gave a big speech one

day and these guys literally cut off his speech electronically and then they gave their own version of the speech about Noriega to, you know, to the minions out there and he lost his mind. It's like, find these guys, you know. That's the kind of stuff they were doing. So Kurt Mews got, did get rolled up eventually. And he was in Modelo Prison, which meant model prison at the time as the newest, latest, greatest prison they built. And he was secured in that.

And so the mission was we need to get, we need to get Kurt Mews out in Modelo prison first, right? And then everything else can happen, right? Yep. And so on December 17th, I was on staff duty. I get a call from J-Soc. Basically, they're telling me that the operation's in effect and to alert the unit. So I paged the unit in, just so happened to be my squadron at the time that was on alert.

They come in and they're prepping and getting ready to load out. Now, I'm injured. I just gotten blown up a few days ago by basically a stun grenade. And so I'm on crutches and hopping around on one leg in my suit. And I remember when they came in at the time, Major Herald, Gary Herald, who's since passed last year, year and a half, General Herald. He was my troop command. He walks in and I give him the briefing, say, okay, sir, here's what's going on, blah, blah, blah. Here's the times.

And he walks out and then he turns out and comes back in. He goes, looks at me. He goes, you know, I know, you're, you know, you've got one leg, you know, and you're going through a divorce again, all the, you know, and he goes, but he goes, you are our breacher, you know, you are part of this troop. And he goes, this is the Super Bowl. And he goes, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you, I'm going to. to give you an invite because if you don't go, I understand, but I'm at least giving you the invite. I'm looking at it. I go, hell yeah. And I rip my suit off, run down, hobbled downstairs, change my

gear. And we load out. Where were you based right then at that point? For Bragg. Yeah. So we end up right away launching. We're in Panama. We're hanging out at Howard Air Force Base in Hangar 3. And nobody knows we're there, right? We just come in quite of the night. We occupy the hangar, start doing our prep work. So this was circa December 17th at this point. So we had a couple days of prep. Now I had never trained for rehearsal prepared for this target because I happened to be going through a special force qualification course to be Green Beret. So I just got back. First day of train, I get blown up. Now I'm going to suit pulling staff duty, right?

And so now I'm an integral part of this assault because I'm going to be the breacher that blows the doors on the top annex to get us into the prison. And so I didn't have a chance to rehearse on the action. mock up had no chance to do any of that. Did they have a mock up? Yeah. Really? I never saw it but the other dudes were rehearsing on it. Yeah. And so, so yeah, so, you know, how long do they have to prepare for this? Um, if I remember right, they prepare three or four months, you know, um, because I don't know, I was in school at the time. So I don't know what they were doing. I was just focused on getting through the Q course, but I know they've been training for a while and preparing for a while. So, um, it's the,

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You know, they're bringing in more weapon systems, heavy weapons systems. They're fortifying the prison, the city blocks. They know something's going on. Because now that they're showing up, all the locals started showing up because locals go, oh, what's going on here? Right? So they all started coming out the lawn chairs and the cars and the beers and whatever the hell they're drinking. And you would think just from the video that they were expecting like a Mardi Gras parade or something coming that night, right? And they're all drinking and dancing and carrying on.

But we know we'd been compromised at this point. And we were, right? So if I remember correctly, a couple guys. One was a Marine. One was Army MP. Those were at least two of many guys that got on the phone, called Mommy and Daddy. he said, mommy, daddy, something's going to happen tonight, you know. I mean, I'd see you again, you know, and so all that was intercepted, right? So, you know, loose-lips six ships, you know,

the whole ops I think. And some other guy goes down to the canal, tells all his friends, hey, guys, you guys don't want to be here tonight because, you know, there's going to be a light show and don't want you get hurt. These are all tip-offs, man. And, you know, guys went thinking they're doing something out of goodwill, but really what they did is they jeopardize the whole operation and people's lives by doing that because now what happened was seven hours out we've got these guys shorn up the corners and the stores uh the corners and the tops of the buildings and things like that shoring everything up and uh so now we have a problem it's like okay hit time was zero zero zero was basically midnight right um was hit time on December 20th and we're like well we really don't have

a lot of room to flex right or flex left because in the air right now. now from Fort Bragg and Camp Lejeune, there's probably 100 plus, you know, aircraft in the air carrying troopers, paratroopers and rangers inbound, right? Because we're getting ready to invade the whole country. But the invasion is not going to start until we going in and get him with Kurt Mews out of the prison. Okay. So a hundred aircraft to get this one guy out of this prison. Yeah. Well, it wasn't just to get him out. It was also to basically, if you will, basically invade the country, right, and take it over, control it, get rid of Noriega his troops and neutralize it.

And so we got a big signature in the air, right? You can't erase that now. They're inbound. And even if we were able to turn them around, the whole mission's compromised, right? We're probably not going to be able to pull that off a second time, right? So we've got to go. So the decision was made to push hit time 20 minutes to the right.

So zero to two hours on December 20th was hit time. It's 20 minutes. Not much, but just something. right? So right before, so that night we loaded the aircraft. So before we load the aircraft, if I remember right, we had 15 helicopters total. We had four MH6, the little birds with the little pods on the side, the guys sit on, right? You see pictures of those. We had four H-6s, which is the little birds with the gun chips. We had four cobras and, if I remember right, four Apaches and at least two UH-60 Blackhawks, C&C control birds, right, and Medevac. So,

we had about a 15 aircraft package. And the interesting part about the little birds was, now at that time, the little birds of that era were basically the little flying eggs and the engine in it was the same engine as they used for irrigation pumps, right? So like in the farm fields, the big sprinkler systems, require some type of big-ass motor, right, to pump all that water out there. Well, that's the same thing that's keeping us flying in his helicopter, right? There's a little water pump.

That's comforting. Right? Yeah, I didn't know that until I was talking to when the pilots at the time. He goes, yeah, it's a, you know, it's a water irrigation pump. And that's what we're going to be flying around it. I was like, holy. So it doesn't have a lot of power either, right? And of course, we want to put a lot of stuff on there and bring it with us.

So it became a aircraft load. ACL was an issue, right? How much can we put on a little bird, right? So we normally trained with them all the time. But because we're going to go in on this prison, we brought a lot of extra stuff like breaching equipment, whether it was thermal arics, explosives, and cutting tools, and there's a lot of stuff that's going to come with us,

weapon systems. And yeah, there's that right there, right? The little birds. And so the problem was we had to get a weight for every operator. And I weighed in with 70 pounds worth of equipment on, and I was actually the lightest guy. And I didn't even have water on me, right? That's just the ammo load that we're carrying.

We carried lots of ammunition. I'm carrying breaching charges, firing systems. You know, we're all carrying at least two radios. We're carrying a lot of stuff. And we didn't bring, most of us probably didn't bring any water at all, thinking we're not going to be there long enough. And if we really need a drink, we'll go down to the prison and we'll drink it out, foster.

No. But so I was 70 pounds at the lightest at that time. And during that era, I weighed about 160. So I add 70 pounds with a gear on my back, you know, and that's what I weighed. And so when you look at that and you look, okay, you got four operators on a helicopter, okay? And then you start weighing in the pilots, right? It didn't take us long to be over the ACL load, right? Breached the ACL load.

So now what are we got to do? We got to figure out where can we cut weight. And one of the things we did, we started stripping some of the avionics out of the little burps. Like, you know, you don't need this. You don't need this thing to fly from here to there. It's not very far. In fact, there's a minute and 43 seconds flight time from Howard Air Force Base to the prison. And so...

Where's Howard Air Force Base? In Panama. Yeah. Oh, okay. So, yeah, that's where we staged out of. So you guys launched out of Panama. Right. Yeah.

So we flew there, you know, covertly at night, landed. Yeah. We snuck into the hangers, just blended in like all the other airmen and stuff. But we were basically prepping is what we were doing for this hit. And so we ended up stripping a lot of the avionics out of the helicopters. And then it still wasn't enough. right and we're like man we're just a little over and then we got one two pilots one of you don't get to go and we literally had two helicopters and only had one pilot just to make it just for the weight

purpose so the irony of it is the two helicopters that had two pilots each had one pilot get shot so think about that from it now had it been the other two helicopters with one pilot that might have been a problem that yeah right so called serendipity so we stripped a lot of the weight the avionics. We pair down two helicopters to one pilot each. And then right before 0.20 after midnight, it was when we launched it. Flight time, it was a minute and 43 seconds to 46 seconds. I got to look at my notes. But it went on a long flight. We left Howard Air Force Base, went across the bridge of Americas. We went through what was called Ancon Hill. It was like a saddle. And as soon as you breach that saddle right there in front of you is the prison, the commandants, all at Panama.

So, um, and, uh, so off we, we go, we go through the saddle and then the snipers, as soon as we come through the site, uh, saddle, the snipers start engaging. And, uh, soon as they started engaged, it's just a melee, a melee on the street, man. There were just people running everywhere. And, um, people shooting back. We don't know who's shooting who, um, because we're literally moving at about 40 feet, 50 feet off the deck and these little birds. And we're not going very fast because the problem was at the weight again, right? So the deck of what? Off the ground. I mean, off the ground. Yeah, above the ground, right? So we're doing 50 feet, 60 feet, AGL above the ground level probably doing maybe 50, 60 knots. And the reason why we can't just zip right in and flare is

because of the weight, right? So the helicopters just couldn't flare in. They had to come in really slow and then sink these things down on the roof. And then on takeoff was even a more problem. at it because you need forward speed to get the lift under the rotors to get up get up in the air right so you need some running space too and it wasn't a lot of that so um so as we're coming in slow hover you know i remember i was on the on the port side and it was just total chaos man there were people running everywhere people shooting shooting at us shooting at them if you could even discern who's who you know you know the lights went out the whole you know whole city went blacked out We were taking fire from all the high-rise apartments around us because they were housing Panamanian

Defense Forces as well. And they kept their weapons. So we're literally taking plunging fire from above. We're taking ground fire. And like I said, it's just total chaos on the ground. Trying to target discriminate was a challenge, trying to see who's who and it's dark out, right? And so we end up finally landing on the roof. As we're landing on the roof, my bird was number one because I had to get off.

My job was run over to the annex. The annex was about 10 feet by 10 feet. So just a concrete structure with a door on it. That would give you access into the building. It was four stories. And now, originally, when I got Intel from the CIA, they said it was a solid steel door. I said, okay, so I prepared my charges for that net explosive weight,

blah, blah, blah, charge configuration. When I get to the target and I run up to the annex to place of my charge, I'll be damned. Yeah, there's a steel door, but it's behind a jail door about six to eight inches. So now I've got a jail door and a steel door, and I've got to breach both these doors. The problem with the jail door is there's not a whole lot of surface area for charge contact, right? So the particular charge I was using was very big. I put a lot of extra explosives on it because I figured, you know what? There's not going to be the good guys behind this door, just bad guys.

So I'm actually glad I did because that extra explosive weight that I put on the charge allowed me to push that jail door through the steel door on the backside. I had launched both of them into the building on the far wall and slided nicely down the wall out of the way. It was perfect. Perfect breach. But it didn't go that way. It didn't start that way. And I don't mind telling people the story because, you know, it's just what it is. But I actually had an error at the door.

So I get to the door, I place the charge, and I'm looking at these bars going, man, this charge is barely going to stick to this thing because I had adhesive to hold it in place. So I'm pressing it on it as tight as I can. And I'm waiting for the rest of the assault force to land and stack up around the building at the cupola. It's not going to be, it's going to be two assault teams going in, not a lot of guys. And I'm listening on the radio. I can hear the helicopters landing taking off. I'm waiting for the, you know, the command from the troop commander that we're ready to go. and I'm sitting there just, you know, pins and needles, man, waiting.

I'm taking fire from everywhere, right? And finally, it's time to go. I pull the system and I had a malfunction. And without getting too technical, one of the firing systems, it didn't fail necessarily. It failed because a safety cotter pin didn't come all the way out. And so anyways, in my haste because I had eight-second firing system on it, that's not a lot of time.

seconds, right? The time you get done screwing around that. It's like, how many seconds do I got that? Four seconds. I remember messing around with this thing. I said, something feels off, but it should be burning because I pulled it hard enough. But I can't hear it. I can't see because all the noise and the gunfire and it says, it's got to be burned. I said, now I've got maybe three seconds to get off the X, right? So as I get off the target and I'm going to run around behind the stack, the charge comes off the door, right? And it falls right behind me as I'm running away. And I can see other peripheral vision. I'm like, oh, crap and pull. And when it hits the ground. And so in my mind, I'm counting 1,000, 2,000, 3,000, 4,000.

And at that point, I realized that the charge misfired, right? So I run back out there. I grab it two hands full, place it on the door again. I said, all right, Comstock, buy the numbers, do it again, do it by the number. So I go through it, and sure enough, one of the systems failed. The second one did fire, and I knew when it fired, and I knew when it fired, okay, I got at least one firing system went off. And in my haste, I ran around the other side, exposing myself to gunfire. I just wanted to get, I just wanted the charge to go bang. I didn't care if I died in the process. It's just got to go bang because, you know, otherwise it's all on me, right? So I run around the other side, boom, it does go off and we make entry to the building.

Long story short, we ended up rescuing Kurt Mews. The bottom floor had been reinforced with another 60s Panamanian defense force. There was about 120 shooters on the ground level because they were actually expecting a ground assault, right? They didn't expect us coming in from the roof. And so we came from the roof down. We got him in the second floor. We kill his interrogator. A couple other people were in the way. And then we got Musa out, got him on the helicopter.

He was on the first helicopter to leave. And he was the first helicopter to get shot down after he left. Remember what I said earlier? Yeah. They have to get a running start. Mm-hmm. The problem was there was not enough room for running. And the helicopter kind of lifted up and dove off the roof to get some speed.

And when he did, he took ground fire from the bottom floor. They just sprayed him from the bottom up, right? So he did a couple of jigs and jags and zags. And he ended up hitting a power line, get shot down again, ended up crashing the street. Two of the operators got shot. My team leader got hit in the head by the rotor strike

from rotor blade, chopped his helmet off. The only guy that was conscious was... Choped his head? Well, his helmet, protect. But he lived? Yeah. Holy shit. He was on medicine for like five months after that.

And he ended up in another helicopter crash with us. That one paralyzed for the rest of his life. That was actually his third helicopter crash in six months. The third one took him out. You'd think the second one would, but the second one just knocked him out, shaved his top of his helmet off.

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Yeah. I don't know how much motorcycle riding to do anymore, but most people in general, not even just Delta operators. Yeah, yeah. We sustained a lot of injuries from, especially helicopters. I remember standing in my team room with Larry Vickers, probably a lot of people know who Larry Vickers is,

but Larry was on my team. I was as team leader, and I remember we were sitting around talking about helicopter crashes one day. You go, you know what? It's not a matter if, it's when. He said, we're going to crash. As many times we've been in helicopters, you know, as many helicopter crashes we have,

is our day's coming, man. And it wasn't long after that Modela prison happened. And then Panama happened after that. Me and him were in the same helicopter crash in May of 1990 in Panama, Mother's Day, in the jungle, Darien Jungle. But anyways, all total, it took a six minutes to get him out and get off the roof and get back to the Air Force space. Now, remember when we got back. So what happened after Muses' helicopter crashed? So, so they, so my helicopter should have actually been the last helicopter back at Howard

Air Force Base. It was the only helicopter to get back. And I remember when we came off the roof, So the other thing we had, we had the 193rd, I believe it was, 1.9th 3rd, 197th, they came around infantry. At that time, it's Christmas time. So they all went home to the U.S. So the only people were left where, you know, you had cooks and clerks and mechanics. Those were the stay behind.

And so they actually became the blocking forces, and they actually manned their APCs, they 1-1-3s with 50 caliber machine guns. And their job was when H. H. Hour went down, was to come in and block, off all the street intersections, right, coordinate off. And so as they tried to get in, they couldn't get in because all these civilians were out there in cars and just blocking these guys from getting in. And we needed them to get in there and do it. So they were like literally

driving over cars and people were sitting in them. You know, that's why I say it was just a big mess. People, there's no spectators in a firefight. You know, we said that in Mogadishu. And when people are hanging around, they're, you know, they're hanging around a gunfight. They probably got bad intentions. You know, it might be, we call them spiders. Maybe they're spotting, you know, I don't know. But anyways, they come rolling in and they didn't have the, you know, they didn't have the same weapons discipline as infantry guys. So, you know, imagine you got a guy who's a mechanic where he flips hamburgers. Now he's on a mod, dude's 50 caliber machine gun with tracers and he's just freaking unloading and all the buildings around us. Wherever there's gunfire, he's shooting back, you know.

I remember coming off the roof and literally what looked like flaming basketballs coming up at the helicopter and I mean remember picking my legs up as it goes underneath us and those are tracers from 50 calibers they look like flaming basketballs from the other end from the receivers in they're massive right these guys were just shooting man and just bullets flying everywhere so we land yeah we landed the air force base and there's just us and we have what's called the j mouse the j mouse basically it's a joint medical unit right so all the surgeons you got everybody right there, right? They got all a tent set up on the tarmac, you know, and they're all standing with their hands clasped, they're waiting, you know, because they're expecting casualties. Right. And

we're the only ones that show up. And my team leader gets off. He goes, he goes, wait right here. He runs over. I can see him talking to somebody over there and change the command. And he comes running back. He goes, okay, put a fresh magazine. And he goes, um, the principal's been shot down and we got to go back and get him back out. And I thought, holy, that's when I got scared. I wasn't scared up until this point because I know what I just left. I was like, that was a beehive, right? And I was like, we're going to go back into. A hornet nest. Oh, my God, dude.

Yeah. So he's like, yeah, we got to go back in. They got shot down. And I thought, man, this is, this is another, going to be another Somalia, Mogadishu scenario, possibly, right? So we're, we get, you know, we loaded in, and helicopters spinning back up. And I can see the green and red strobe lights from the other sororities coming in, right? And so while we were sitting there, they did manage to recover Kurt Mews and that assault team that was on that little bird. because we had, we actually had Delta operators in some of these APCs, right?

And they were basically acting as ground commanders for these, for this element, right? The QRF, right, the quick reaction force and the blocking force. So they were able to guide those, the vehicles over there, recover them and put them back to APCs and get them out. So that was, you know, six minutes. If I remember, it's 23 or 26 guys. I can't remember top of my head. 23 or 26. Not a lot of us.

And we went in there and literally grabbed this man out of a prison, a hardened prison, right, with shooters everywhere. And we didn't lose a man. Did you say six minutes? Six minutes. That whole thing. Six minutes. Six minutes. From the time the wheels went up on the Howard Air Force Base until they landed again, six minutes, dude.

What? Yeah. Super fast, right? And now, here's check this out. To put it all in perspective. So you were talking to me about Venezuela earlier. You know, yeah, I wanted to know what your take was on that whole operation. There's a lot of people that like did breakdowns of it.

Yeah. Like how it went, how they launched off that, that Iwo Jima ship. Some of them launched from Puerto Rico. Yeah. So again, I think it took them nine minutes, right? If I remember right, nine or ten minutes. So we'll be in by four minutes. For this new operation for the Venezuela one?

Yeah. So got to dig on a little bit. But anyways, absolute resolve. was what they're going. So, look, nobody really knows exactly what happened unless they were there, right? So they're going to speculate quite a bit. Some of the speculation out there is, yeah, that's the little bird that got shot down. Oh, that's your bird. Yeah. Yep. Wow. You see how it's canted to its side. On that side, my assistant team leader got out. Actually, Kurt Mews got out. He was the only guy who survived the crash consciously. And he got out and he started to walk into the rotor blade. See how they're dipping? They were still, the engine was still running. and he started to walk into it. My assistant team leader kind of woke up.

Saul was about to happen, reached up, grabbed him, pulled him down. And when he pulled Kurt Muz down, he took the rotor strike into the head. So he was wearing a pro-tech helmet, right, the plastic helmets. And it literally shaved the-scapeboard helmet? Yeah. Yeah. We used to, that's what we used to go in. Really?

Yeah. If you notice my picture, I'm the only guy wearing Kevlar. Kevlar helmet. Everybody else were wearing Protech. It wasn't until after Mogadishu that everybody said to, hell with these plastic bullets because we had helmets because we had another guy get shot in the head he get killed and we started going to the Mitch helmets and the smaller kevlar helmets right started that whole process but yeah he took him rotor strike right there in the head and knocked

him knocked him clean out um Kurt Mews was laying next to him and Kurt Muz actually took his 45 with him from him thinking he's going to have to make his look customers last stand yeah and then uh Tom woke up and grabbed his gun and go no no no and then everybody else showed up and got him out there um yeah But so I've heard comments about, you know, the Venezuela mission. So, you know, that was Delta Force? Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, it was Delta went into that one.

And so a lot of attributions were given to like technology, right? So like, for example, how were we our aircraft able to bypass the Chinese and the Russian radar systems, right? That they had there. Yeah. We neutralized everything. And first of all, so this would have happened the same way as far as preparation that you guys prepped for Medell prison. They would have had a complete mock-up of that, of that whole compound somewhere. Yeah, actually, somebody came out and made that comment that they did have a mock-up.

And it wouldn't surprise me. Why not? Because Delta's got so much money because they're allocated, even in peacetime, they're allocated as a wartime, like the war operational, right? War-time operations. So they get wartime funding all the time. They have plenty of money, right? And it's not even obstacle. So for them to ask for, you know, a bunch of money. to build a mock-up of that facility, that would have been no problem. Right. And they would have had spies, they would have recruits on the ground. The CIA would have recruited folks inside of his close circle and his inner circle. Absolutely.

To know where he's at, tracking him at all times or at least most of the time. Yep, absolutely. So what you have here is kind of an amalgamation of many different elements that are going to contribute to this operation. So I always say it like this. You know, Delta Force is really the spear. It's the tip of the spear. It's the shiny, pointy end, right? That's what you want to stab everybody with. But that spearhead doesn't go anywhere until you've got a shaft that's long enough.

It can support that spear and, you know, throw it directionally into a target. And so what does that support staff looks like, that literally a staff? It's everything from, you know, the helicopters, the pilots to the intel to everybody that had a hand in making this mission successful. they're part of that shaft behind the spearhead. But I will argue. Let me ask you this. I don't mean to interrupt your train of thought. Where does ground branch fit into all this?

That, well, this might be a stupid question. No, it's not actually a stupid question because, you know, I've been reading quite a bit about ground branch lately as well. You know, it's obviously a CIA capability. And most likely those guys had some part of it, no doubt, when they're somewhere doing something, you know. This is why I said a lot of people can speculate all they want. But this mission was so complex and so big.

Think of what would have happened. 150 aircrafts total, right? Now, think of what it would have happened if one helicopter, one Black Hawk, one Chinook crashed somewhere in and around the target or the executive area with a bunch of Delta operators on it. Now you got Mogadishu all over again. Now you got problems, right? Now you got real drama.

And not only that, that's going to look really bad on Toronto. Trump. Like they're going to hold it over his head. Dude, that was a huge gamble on his point. Right. Right. Massive gamble. He and had Matt Hakeseth. Like this is this is ballsy, but they pulled it off. And why they pull it off? Because they know they've got the best equipment in the world. Jammers, the drones, everything they've used and everything they brought to bear, the sonic weapons, you know, which is really not that new. But they brought a lot of things to bear ultimately. But in the end of the day, it comes back to the man on the ground with the gun. Yes. That's the final. That makes the, that's a differentiator right there.

Those dudes are the most trained assassins in the world. Absolutely. And so, so what I wanted to add to that was, you know, Delta Force has a very peculiar selection in that when you go through the selection process, you don't go through as a group. Like, you know, you see, you know, the seals, the buds, you know, up and down the beach, you know. carrying a boat, you know, stuff like that, right? That doesn't happen. Delta selection, every man is select on his individual merit. You're evaluated by yourself on your own.

There's no pressure. There's no persuasion. There's no inducement, compulsion. You're actually Mr. Anonymous. They don't even use your real name. You're like a nobody, right? And they do that on purpose. And they give you a, they give you tasks to complete

without telling you what the standard of performance is, right? So they just tell you to do the best you can. So every day you're by yourself doing the best you can, and it's grueling, it's hard physiologically. You wreck your body in pretty short order. And when the body goes, the mind goes, right? And so is Delta Force testing your body or they test your mind? I saw an article that's actually now there's a lot of YouTube video out on Delta, right?

And they were talking about, they did an interview, with Ben Affleck. And he was talking about he met Delta guys, right? He goes, you know what? He goes, they're not really big. They don't look really muscular. Like, you know, they don't look like these tough guys. And he goes, why are these guys? So what makes you guys so different? And he asked one of the guys. And he goes, what makes it so good is our ability to solve problems, right? Problem solving. And, and I got to tell you, there's a lot of truth to that because there's a term called effective intelligence, right? So look, there's a, you go on LinkedIn and you're going to see all these guys with advanced degrees and they're dumber than a rock, right? They're very

linear. You know, I'll use Elon Musk term, you know. You can buy an education, but you can't buy intelligence, right? So you've got a lot of guys that bought an education, but have zero intelligence or common sense. Right. I mean, let's be real, man. What's their name? Jackson, the Supreme Court, you know, what's, can describe a woman? When we got people that kind of level of intellect and they can't describe a woman, either they're not, they don't want to, which is being disingenuous or they're just that stupid. Either way, they're in positions of power. But you see a lot of people with education

that are dumber as a rock. Now, effective intelligence, I can, you can kind of compare that to common sense, right? Street smarts. Right? So there's a lot to be said for that. You know, would I rather be super? You know how to deal with people.

Yeah, exactly, right? And survive. And so that is the difference. And, you know, Delta operators have above average IQs, but that doesn't make you smart. It doesn't give you effective intelligence either. We all have a high GT score, which is like the Army equivalent of a skill slash IQ test.

What did you call it? What score? GT. Yeah. So like when you join the Army, I think they still do that. Now they should. They'll test you.

And they give you a battery test, right? And different categories like, you know, mechanics or whatever, right? And then basically what they do is they use that to, if you will, assess your aptitude. And if you're over 110, I believe it is, if your GT scores over 110, you're eligible to do anything in the military, right? You're smarter to do anything. If you're below that, then, you know, you get categories that you qualified for in other quite categories. You don't get to participate in, right?

So all Delta operators have above average GT scores, IQ scores. But we really don't know. It's one of the best kept secrets. Why did Delta? Why do guys get selected in Delta, right? Right. Because the nutrition rate is through the roof. super high. And nobody knows except the psychologist and the gatekeepers. When I say gatekeepers,

there's only certain officers and non-commission officers, senior non-commission officers, that know the criteria and required for selection. And it's one of the best kept secrets out there. Really? It's the best kept secrets out. That's interesting because we know the criteria that it takes to be recruited to the CIA to become a CIA officer. Yeah. That's out in the open. They talk about that all the time. But you don't know what it is for Delta. Even Delta operators, know it is we expect late all the time we sit around some time drinking beer after duty like you why do they pick you what do you think pick me you know what i remember some of these conversations we had and one guy brought it up he gave me the he gave the best explanation of the group he goes i believe

we've all been selected because we're all controlled psychopathic killers and i thought about it's like you know there's probably a lot of truth to that because here's the thing um no man there had any reluctant to shoot somebody. We had no problem with that. We didn't lose sleep over it. Because we know why we were doing it. We were doing for the right reasons. And there was no problem with it.

There was no inhibition whatsoever, right? And that does take a bit of, that takes some kind of psychopathy to be able to do that, right? Because if you read the book by David Grossman, right? Colonel Grossman on killing. He talks quite a bit about that. About killing.

It's called About killing. On killing. I'm sorry, called On killing. Whoa. Right. And by David Grossman. And it's been out for a while. And what was his story? What was his...

He used to be a colonel and a psychologist in the Army. Okay. And he's killed people. Well, yeah, he was literally... What he wanted to know was what would... Why do some men kill and some men don't, right? And he was... And they went through this whole analytical process all the way back to when we still had, you know,

sabers and muskets and things like that. And what he determined out of that was a couple of things. So, for example, you could have 10 infantry guys all the same level of training and they're meeting ahead a threat head on maybe one of those 10 guys actually want to kill the other people and he's trying and the other ones are what they call posturing they're going through the motions they're shooting but they're shooting around over their heads they're not actually trying to kill the guy really right and yeah he takes all the way back to like the civil war the revolutionary war where he had the bayonet charges right and you have two armies meeting the middle of

the feel a lot of noise, screaming, hollering, and metal clanking it. And then all of a sudden, you know, the retreat sounds, everybody backs up and there's like two guys laying there. And that's it. Like, you know, everybody else walks away. They're just pretending. Well, the two are dead, but everybody else. Yeah, so he calls it, right?

Yeah, he calls it, um, uh, posturing, right? So you're posturing, like they're actually fighting, make a lot of noise. But we have an innate inhibition to killing people. That's the reality of it, right? If we didn't, we'd be killing each other left and right, but we don't do that, right? Even in a fight, you know, usually a fight ends before somebody dies. You know, a guy will give you, you know, give quarter to the guy. It's built in, it's innate, just like animals.

They do the same thing, right? So, although in this era. So is there a distinction that he makes between offensive killing versus defensive killing? Like, protecting yourself? Like, if you're getting ambushed, right? I can't imagine there's any human being that would not take a gun and shoot the person who's about to kill them. Well, I'm glad you said that because I'm going to segue on to that too. Okay.

That's an interesting phenomenon. So going back to what I just said a secretary ago, very few people really have, few men have the real gumption or ability or courage to kill somebody else. They would rather avoid it. Sure. It's innate, right? But there are few out there that have no problem doing that. And for whatever reason, right, it could be some kind of, you know, psychopathy.

It could be something cultural. Or if people that actively seek it out like Billy Waugh. Right. Right, well, and here's the thing, right? So the Army, so the military understood this phenomenon for a very long time. So if you look at, for example, like on the known distance ranges, right, KD ranges where you have to qualify with the M16 or whatever you got, right? And you have to shoot a target out to 300 yards. There are silhouettes like human beings, right?

They look like a human silhouette. And what they're doing you doing is conditioning you to shoot at a human silhouette, right? you're not adverse to it. And as you get closer, now you know, you see the cartoon targets. Some are very realistic pictures of a guy with a gun, you know, and a hostage, you know. And this is all part of the conditioning process. And even that, a lot of guys still have problems shooting a real person. I've seen people hesitate because, like, I got to shoot this guy now. Am I ready for it? And so there's a thing that's called resolving your own death, right? So most people haven't resolved her own death. And so talking from a defensive perspective, a lot of guys and women will hesitate

before they even defend themselves because what happens is they woke up in the morning, they didn't kiss her wife or husband goodbye, they didn't pay the insurance, they didn't, you know, they didn't take care of the things that they need to take care of. So their family's taking care of. So when they meet this moment in time, this potential threat, they hesitate because shit, I didn't pay the insurance. If I die now, my wife family screwed. Or I didn't kiss my wife goodbye. Or I didn't resolve my death with my religious beliefs.

Do I believe in God? Right? So those are all things that will make you balk or hesitate. Interesting. Right. And so if you want to be a deadly son of a bitch that fights without any inhibition, you've got to sort all that out early on. Tie up the loose ends.

You guys. And so this is one of the things about Delta guys, I think. They already came there. They've already resolved their own death, man. They're ready to go down range. And if they don't come back, they don't come back. They're good with that, right? So, and I think that's a big, that's a big important piece of this thing.

Because it does require a level of maturity. And by the way, the average operator there is 33 years old. Average, you know. And I've said this before. At the time, I believe I was the youngest, one of the youngest guys ever to get selected at the age of 23. And that was pretty young. I didn't have a lot of experience. I had four years in the Army.

I was really good at digging foxholes and fill them up, sitting under a tree for a couple of days, cleaning my M-16. I was about as good as it got right at being in the infantry. But I was young. And I did get selected. And like I said, most of guys were much older. And what does that age bring? That brage brings, in my mind, besides maturity, also at that time, by the time you're 33, you should probably have already resolved your own death,

right? You should have already figured out who am I, what's my purpose, why am I here, where am I going, what do I want to do? And if I drop out today, will it matter, right? So that needs to be sorted out too. I think a lot of guys in the unit, they've done that way before they ever got there. Because I never saw a guy ever hesitate when it came time to fight. He ran right in there, you know, as willing to get it on. So there's a couple different variables that affect, you know, combat performance. One of them obviously is our natural inhibition to engage and kill. And then the other part on the defensive side is if we don't resolve our own death,

we're going to hesitate again. And it could get us and others killed as well, right? And so that's a, to me, that's a big deal. And when I go back, it's circling a long way back around to the Venezuela thing, you know. Here you've got 20, if I, somebody quoted. like 26 guys, I think, went in on that target Delta operators, you know. And they smoke check everybody there. And, you know, they went in there because...

They killed like 33 security guards or something like that. Cuban dudes. Yeah, I killed all his bodyguards, 33 or 39 of them, right off the bat, you know, and didn't lose a man in the process. That says a lot about the character of a Delta operator. And somewhat, although we don't know what that... We don't know the psychology, the mentality that they have, why they're able to do that. I had a friend tell me one time, he was actually one of my teammates, and he went to school to get his psychology degree.

And he came back one day, he said, you know, he said, Delta operators have, what was it, their serotonin levels? Do you think serotonin levels were on par like with a serial killer, right? I mean, there's something in us that just not makes you, we're not murderous. Delta guys are not murderous, far from it. But there's something in us. And I don't want to call it fearlessness either because when people use the word fearless, a person is fearless, there's too stupid to realize they're in trouble and they do it anyways, right? So contrast that to a guy that's got courage.

The guy has courage goes, you know what I'm in trouble? I don't think I know what I'm doing, but at least I got to do something when he does it, right? So that's another kind of guy. The third guy is the guy that knows how to cope because he has confidence, right? He doesn't need courage and he's not fearless. He doesn't have to be fearless. He can actually control the situation and control him, right? He runs everything.

And I think that's where we're at when we talk about the level of Delta operators because they don't go in there and fight out of fear. They don't fight because they need courage. They fight because they run the situation. It's not running them. They're running all those bodyguards. They're running the entire scenario. They knew exactly how that was going to go down.

Absolutely. Absolutely. And so we talked about technology like I said a minute ago. You know, technology helps deliver the force. But at the end of the day, it's the guy on the ground with the gun that makes it happen. Yeah. Because they could have easily botched that up, right? Real easy. And now what do you got?

You got nothing. All the technology worked except the operator failed. No, the operator's not going to fail. Yeah. You know, if anything, it's technology. And truth be told, Delta operators don't count on the technology. You know, you just assume it's going to break anyways when it goes in. So, you know, it always comes down to the guy underground with the gun.

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taken out all the communication and there was like a report of people vomiting up blood and those bleeds and stuff like that? Have you ever seen or heard anything like that? Yeah, yeah. It's actually not really new. technology. It's been around for a while. And I mean, I've seen truck mounted of these sonic weapons, right, with these gigantic speakers. And then we're using them for like the crowd control stuff. Yeah, crowd control stuff like that. Right. So it would only make sense that, yeah,

at this point, you've come up with a handheld version of it or smaller versions of it, you know, maybe helicopter mounted. Right. And it's directional. You know, you hit a guy with sonic waves, like hitting them with microwaves, you know. All those frequencies coming at them at one time, for sure, got to do something to disrupt, you know, the... Those things? Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Yeah.

Sound cannons. Yeah. For sure, it's going to disrupt, you know, your biology. Because here's the thing, right? We are... All we are is frequency, energy vibration. We are just energy. That's all we are.

All our molecules are all moving and vibrating at the same time. And so if I was able to blast you with one of these sonic weapons, I could probably alter your frequency to your body and make you do things like throw up, bleed, and... maybe even die. So yeah, that's the technology is not necessarily new. It's probably been improved quite a bit. Um, and you just got it. So it just trotted it out and showcase it, you know. And that ought to that ought to raise some eyebrows around the world. Like, damn, these guys came in into this country penetrated deep and took this guy and his wife out. It's pretty crazy. Right. But it's not the first time. We did it in Modelo. We did it here.

And again, hats off to the, you know, you know, to the military. Makes me proud to be, you know, an American still and proud to be a soldier. And, you know, this goes, man, this just goes to show, man. You don't trifle with Americans, man. Piss us off. There's a reason we're Americans, you know. So. Well, apparently now we're getting ready to do it in Greenland.

Yeah, right. That's a funny story. Which I don't think we need to because they are, we already, we have a treaty with them. We have that Thule base there and we're allowed to do whatever we want there. I think the only rule in the treaty is like we have to at least like give them a heads up or something. Yeah. Yeah. So I was just reading a long article on that this morning was actually pretty good.

So this is not some new phenomena. This has been this, there's been this agreement for a very long time. Right. It's like the 50s, 51, I think. Actually longer than that. It actually, yeah. Actually before that, it actually goes back, I believe to the 1800s. But, you know, every, during every epoch, I think,

So every 10 years or 15, something happens, you know, World War I, World War II, things are refined and re-agreed upon. But it's, I was actually, when I started reading about, I was like, damn, I think, you know, I was actually surprised Trump really, he knows his shit because I didn't know this. And so, and he's got it all figured out. So Greenland really doesn't belong to anybody except the Danes per se. It's part of their kingdom. That's it. But they're an independently operating society. Exactly.

Exactly. you know. So where's that going to go? I don't know. I think he's just, I think he's playing a game poker right now. He's pretty good at that game, right? So he's able to force people. Oh yeah, there we go. 1951 agreement. It gives us military access to build and operate defense facilities. Um, strategic importance. What, blah, blah, blah, blah. What does that say? Okay, so we're allowed to have a military foothold there to counter Soviet threats like the Thule base. it's maintained in Denmark's control and then also as far as they're minerals

I was watching an interview with the one of the ministers or ex-ministers of Greenland or of Denmark actually and he was saying that we have like America has like the right to go exploit any resources we want in Greenland

all we have to do is consult them but like they're not going to do anything we can do whatever the fuck we want you're going to send a two dog sleds after us? Right. Right. Exactly. The only thing is like it's crazy that the whole, I think it's like 80% of that, of the

land there is covered in an ice cap. So I don't know how hard that would be to extract those resources. I don't think it would be. But I guess the Danes from what I understand have been historically like one of our best friends. They've helped us with everything like in all of these conflicts

going back to the Iraq war in Afghanistan and all that stuff. You watch Trump is going to, Trump ain't dumb, man. You know, he's not dumb. And we're not going to invade Greenland. I know that's not going to happen. And I don't think we're going to really force anybody to do anything. He's just calling the bluff right now.

But I think here's what's going to happen. I think he's one day going to look at Greenland and go, listen, guys, we don't want the country. Okay. In fact, we'll help you exploit all your minerals and stuff. You keep all the money, all the profits, right? We'll make you healthier, right? We just want to know that we can control this, just like Puerto Rico. right? You just become one of our territories. You know, you still sovereign, do your own thing.

Yep. You know, you make your own money. Well, even help you make money off as minerals, but we need this place to protect the West, you know, and you guys, by the way. Right. I think he'll work that out. He's not an idiot, man. He's not an idiot. And he's smarter than most people out there. He's got an agenda. And he just basically, it's the art of the deal. He knows that. He goes the first, he goes, you never start with what you want right up front. You work your way into it, you know? Yeah. But I never thought about it either.

I never thought about the strategic importance of Greenland until I started looking at the map. Well, if he was to grab that territory, he would be the first president since like Thomas Jefferson to expand the United States territory to that degree. Yeah. Which 50 years from now, he'll be claimed as being the best president in history because he grabbed. He expanded the U.S. territory by that much. Absolutely, man. You know, the guy's a genius, man. He's definitely, he's definitely smart.

Yeah, just, you know, the problem is people judge him by the mean tweets. They judge him by his ability to express himself. He's not a very good orator, not like Obama, right? Obviously not. But he tells it like he sees it. He tells it like it is. He actually tells it the way I think it is. Like, you know what guy's saying when I believe, right?

And so, for the most part. Except for when it comes to the Epstein files. Yeah, so I'm still wondering about what's going on with that one, right? Why are we not talking about, I'm pretty sure he's not on it, but I have a feeling some key people probably are. And that might raise some eyebrows, right? Or maybe he's saving it for the next election, right? Maybe that's, you know, I don't know, man. Maybe he's got some 4D chassis.

He's pulling off right here. He's got something up asleep, maybe. I think so. I think maybe you wouldn't be surprised before the election. All of a sudden, the stuff starts coming out, right? Why would you give it up now and let them have a chance to recover, right, and come up with a counter campaign later on? Hit them when they're trying to get their next guy elected, then pull it out, you know? I see that happening.

Yeah, the Epstein thing, look, I can think of worse things, you know, okay, guy had on Island and, you know, had girls there. Look, dude, how many, you know how many children get exploited every day in our country? And nobody's talking about that. Nobody's talking about that. I got a great guy that you should interview one day on this topic. He's in the middle of it all, man. And it's just sickening that here in America, for example, well, let me start by saying this.

Do you know what cartels their biggest commodity is? It's not cocaine. It's humans. Humans. Human trafficking. Humans. And guess who's a part of it? Who's just the biggest player as the cartels?

Americans. There are American families, middle class families. upper-class families that are actually creating building safe houses and halfway houses for these kids. They're actually working with these cartels. They're taking money from them and farming these kids out. And it's a pretty big deal. And again, like I said, I've got a guy out after a show, I'll connect you with him. You definitely should have him on because this will make, this will really piss you off because he's, he's been very deep into this counter-child trafficking. He's been working on a lot of counter-narcotic stuff. And very interesting guy.

But some of the stories he told me, I said, so I said, what happens to some of these kids? Like, okay, you get you, they grab a little girl. For example, a little blonde hair girl with blue eyes and four, about four years old is something like $150,000. She's like the top, like prime, right? I said, what happens to these girls? He goes, well, they get used. All kinds of things happen to them. And then usually what happens is at some point, they usually commit suicide or they're just,

Right. They disappeared, right? For who knows what purpose, right? I have a little personal knowledge on that with my wife. My wife was trafficked when she was 18. And actually was in Singapore when that happened to her. Yeah, it's huge over there, man. I got it inside China.

Yeah. And it's big, man. And it's like sick, man. Who does this kind of stuff, right? But nobody's talking about that. Everybody cares about who, you know, Epstein screwed. Well, people want the politicians, they want to. to use Epstein as a political football.

Absolutely, right? To push their narrative. Absolutely. But I think the reality of it is, I think it's obvious that both sides are deeply compromised. Absolutely. There was the whole thing with Clinton that just missed his subpoena. Did you see that? Yeah.

Him and his wife. Yeah. Just didn't show up. And they were talking about it on the floor, how like we've been contacting their lawyers and they haven't showed up. Yeah. This is, and I don't know, like, they're trying to push it. Yeah.

And trying to see what they can do. They're escalating it to see if they can get them. to show up but I mean I don't know you're never going to get a sit up I don't think I don't think nothing's going to happen nothing's happened yet all this talk all this rhetoric nothing's happening I want to think they oh well towards the end it'll be his big balloon event right and all the stuff will come out at once you know but I'm doubting that's going to happen too no I mean it's like even the bond he followed the bonjino stuff yeah yeah before he became the deputy director of the FBI he's on every podcast talking about he was a massage

asset. He was doing all this stuff. All these people are compromised. He was a child. As soon as he gets in, it's like they took the FBI neuralizer and like flashed it. It's like Epstein files. Yeah. There are no Epstein files. They do not exist. Yeah.

Hey man. Cash Patel. I don't know, man. I'm just, I'm at a loss. It's obviously being covered up. I mean, it's just. It's clear. Why, who knows?

But to protect powerful people, man. I just feel like, man, I've said this and I, now I'm starting to sound like a, I'm starting to sound like a revolutionary. know I am when I've been saying this lately because I just had enough man I was on a couple podcasts recently I said here's a problem man we just keep getting bullshit and lied to um you know and my question is where are the American men at why are we not standing up pushing back protecting our families our wives our children our way of life why are we not saying enough's enough and and and I don't care for me to go to

arms, you know. Well, there's that Thomas Jefferson quote, that famous Thomas Jefferson quote, where he says every 150 years, the blood of the tyrants needs to be spilled on the tree of liberty. Absolutely. And patriots, right. Unfortunately, it's going to be both. But you're right. And so we've been so brainwashed for a very long time. And men have been so emasculated in our country. Right. So if you do anything that looks like manly, it's called toxic, right? And so a lot of guys are afraid. I think that That pendulum shifting. Maybe, but probably not fast enough because it better shift really fast, like in the next two to three years, like swinging it way the other way.

Otherwise, we're done. I think we're done. But we've engineered our own extinction in a lot of ways. We've allowed it to happen. We've allowed men to become emasculated. You know, we're at a point now where, you know, we think kids that can't even really speak yet should be able to pick their gender. You know, the topic of abortion.

one there. It's like, what are we doing, man? It's human. What are we doing? And then the lying, right? So now the, now if you tell the truth, you know, you're the enemy. And if you're a liar, you know, you're the victim. It's just everything is upside down backwards. And it just, it's really kind of hard to, even for a rational mind to get their head around at all. I mean, there's a lot of prominent people out there that have been coming up. Like, you know, online commentators and young people that have been like, I mean, it's just, it's crazy. There's kids that are like in their teens and early 20s who are like, they know the whole political landscape. Right. And they have a take on everything. Yeah. Every, every foreign government, every geopolitical

involvement that we have, everything about our own politics here. Like, and, you know, there's people like Charlie Kirk and all those people who are coming up and sort of, I think they are, have been a huge part of like swinging that pendulum and become independent, the independent voices. you know what I mean in the independent media. I think podcasts like yours, this is what helps, right? Because you're literally juxtaposed to legacy media, right? They lie. They're owned, right?

CNN, all these news agencies are owned and they're all lying. They're telling you what somebody wants you to hear. You've probably heard of Operation Mockingbird, right? Oh, yeah. Okay. That's a thing. It's a real thing, right? So it's a property, the legacy media is a propagation arm or propaganda arm.

But now podcasters and online folks are getting paid by foreign governments and to push narratives. I sent you a video, Steve, of those guys. There's these dudes who are going into Gaza getting paid to go in there, put on jackets. Yeah, here, put the headphones on. You can hear this. And they're wearing bulletproof vests and helmets to make it look like they're in a war zone. And they're literally getting paid thousands of dollars to do this. Crazy. Check this out.

So we have eight minutes down. If I were Israel, I wouldn't even provide matching socks to Gaza, but here's all the aid that y'all claim doesn't exist. Share this with a friend who continues blaming Israel for everything. Ten U.S. and Israeli influencers. I'm here in Gaza, and all I see is food, water, and opportunity. But instead of Hamas distributing the ramen noodles, they're eating at all. and that's why their leaders are on Ozempic. This is exactly Hamas's plan.

To paint Israel as the perpetrator of all of this. When in reality, it's Hamas that continues to use its own people as pawns. So you have foreign countries doing damage control by paying United States influence influencers to go out and post these videos. How crazy is that? Yeah, no surprise there, you know. Yeah, whoever, you know, it's fifth generation warfare. Whoever controls the narrative, you know, they're winning. And that's what, here's the other thing, right?

So going to AI, how many times have you now looked at an AI video and asked yourself, is that real or is that AI? Every day. You can't tell them. You can't tell them. I think I think probably 80% of the stuff on my TikTok beat is fake. Right. And so here's another problem, right? So again, at what point, like I already distrust everything I read now.

It's like, I don't know if that's AI, if somebody made some crap up, is it true or is it not true? right? And so now I distrust AI and we're getting more of it. In fact, we're going to be, we're going to be overwhelmed. We're already getting overwhelmed with it. But, you know, it's already starting to, you know, displace people, for example, I think 13% of the world population has already lost their jobs to AI. It's expected in the next two years, 80% won't be jobless. Think about that now. We'll be in an age where, and by the way, anybody calls it artificial intelligence. it's artificial intelligence at all. There's nothing artificial about it. It's intelligence. When you have, when you have AI programs communicating and sharing code how to resurrect themselves

in case this guy shuts me down, here's how you turn me back on, when you have actually AI blackmailing those that are running the codes and AI going, hey, I got a picture of you with this chick and I'm going to send it to your wife if you turn me off. I mean, this is where we're at now. It's like, this is crazy. Is it really artificial? And I would argue, you know it's not. I think it's actual intelligence. Because I said earlier, everything's energy frequency, vibration. Everything is energy, even our mind. And so, but the real problem is, you'll no longer be able to discern the truth from what, even the videos, right? I mean, I've seen videos of me. It's like, damn, looks like me, sounds like me, but I don't know who that chick is.

Swear to God, that's not me. I know, right? But no, I mean, think about that for a minute. It's like, how do you, I mean, how do we protect ourselves from that? They're not going to protect us from it. By the way, they thought they could put handrails in at some point. And now they're like, who controls it? It's like, forget who's going to control it. Who's going to control it? Exactly, right?

It's only going to get worse. And you're going to have these, you know, these monkeys in the, in the basement on a computer figuring out code. And then before you know, they're sabotaging things. Right. You know, they're feeding it. I don't have a lot. I don't want to sound like a nihilist, but I don't think the next four years is looking good at all, looking really bad. You know, with AI and, you know, I was telling a guy last night, I said,

we're so, we're so focused on all the illegal immigrants coming to our country, which we should be. But nobody's talking about the AI, the impact AI is having on the economy, on jobs. Right. On all those things, right? Now, there's upsides to it. You know, there's a downside, but there's another. The other upside is, you know, with the advancement of AI, for example, it's predicted that if you're alive in the next five years, you could probably live to be 150.

And there's actually... With health and medicine. Yeah, there's actually experts out that coming out now, some top medical experts, physicists and others that are saying now, they believe that you could actually live forever, right? Because they broke the code on how to extend telemars and on and on and on. So imagine that for a minute. And I've heard guys go, oh, I don't want to live forever. But there's another, there's another, again, another theory that by 2050,

you'll be able to upload your mind into a hard drive, right, or a computer. And literally live in perpetuity inside of a hard drive, right? So, and the question is, well, how is that even possible? Well, your energy, your mind is nothing more than, it's almost like a silicon computer, but it's a biological computer, quantum computer many times. And it processes energy. It needs energy to create information and retain information, et cetera. So if you put that into a hard drive, imagine now with the advancement robots, they're so

dangone good and so realistic. Might as well, it's just about calling my Android. Imagine you could take your hard drive with your mind and install into a computer, I mean, to a robot. Yeah. And how long you can live forever, right? So what is this? Google AI claims that by 2050, advancements in brain computers.

computer interfaces, nanotechnology, and artificial intelligence are predicted to enable, at a minimum, a sophisticated partial integration to the human mind with digital systems. Well, yeah, I mean, our phones are basically already that, right? Exactly. It's an extension of us. Now, do you ever lose your phone, go, crap,

where's my brain at? Because everything you know is in the phone, right? I bet you money, you probably don't know one or two phone numbers, maybe, I don't even know my wife's phone number. If I didn't look at the phone, I wouldn't know how to call it, right? So if I lose that, I'm in trouble. But there are some people that look through this whole thing with rose-colored glasses, you know, like Elon Musk.

Yeah. That say that we're going to have like this high income, high universal basic income. I don't think it's going to be a high. I mean, there's going to be a limit to it. And so we're back in the same, we're still in the same problem, right? So, okay, everybody gets a universal income. Well, how much is that an income going to be? Right.

And here's the problem. I assure you it's not going to be a lot. But what will happen is everybody will end up in these 15-minute city. But here's where the real problem lies. Robot police. Well, first of all, as men, right, how do we define ourselves by our profession, our purpose, right? And if you don't have a purpose, you don't have a job,

you don't have the ability to go out and provide and protect, it's kind of like you've been neutered. And I think most men, after I know I would go crazy, if I'd have something to do, like you can only go to the beach so many times, you know, a 15-minute bus around the corner. at some point, I'm going to be climbing the walls. And that's going to do two things. One, it's going to either make me really crazy and or it's going to make me probably do something

really stupid, like, you know, maybe something that I shouldn't do just to get that fulfillment that men need. I think there's a problem with that. And it sounds like, oh, you'll have all kinds of free time. You get to do this. You get to do that. But I don't know too many men that just want free time. and not do anything. Look, I'm about a crazy get and I still need to be engaged, you know,

doing things. Right, but it doesn't necessarily have to equate to free time. Like, if you had some sort of universal basic income where like, say like everybody got 10 grand a month or whatever to cover all their basic expenses, like their rent, their housing, their food, their transportation, all that stuff, would you, would it not just raise the tide in general and say like, now you don't have to worry about the basic stuff. Now you can take all that energy and all of that motivation you have to do other things, right? To do the things that instead of trying to spend time on worrying about taking care of your basic needs, now you can just try to raise the bar even more and do things that you're just really interested in or that you're passionate about.

I could see that point. Because I mean, everyone compares themselves to everyone else. Yeah, we live in this like society is hierarchical, right? So you want to like you know where you fit into the economic landscape with whatever you do based on how well you're performing compared to other people, right? That's how you kind of like get your your ID. That's kind of like how you compare yourself. There's like a pecking order. Yeah.

That's kind of like something that's baked into the human psyche. Yeah. So can't that still exist with something like? like that? Like, can't you just use that to, to raise the bar even more? Well, yeah. So that's the question. What, what kind of bar we talk about? Because if everything is provided, right, including all the basics, all you need. And where is the opportunity to grow or to invent or build or do more, right? Because you're competing against maybe 8 billion other people, right? And so everything that, you know, normally we would have required work, no longer

requires work because it's already handled by AI and robots. So what does that leave for, you know, your own freedom of expression, you know, your goals, your purpose. What's, I don't know, maybe we're not there yet, but maybe there will be what you just point out. Maybe there will be room for that. But right now I can't see how that's even possible. And what I actually see is more troubled than anything because if we're all living, we've got that same equal amount, doesn't mean we're all going to get along. No. You know, it's still going to go sideways, I think. And then the more time you have on your hands, how is the government going to pacify you? Well, maybe like the Romans, give you bread and circus, give you some crack cocaine and some alcohol

and free porn, you know. I don't know. How do you control eight billion people that don't have a life per se just hanging around. You can only watch so much TV, only going to watch so much porn, can only hang out of the beach so many times, right? Right. At some point, you know, guys like me are going to want to get on my airplane and travel again.

And how do I get to do that if I have a universal basic salary, where do I make more money so that I can owe to travel to all the countries that I live in and I work in? You see what I'm saying? I don't know. I don't know what the answer is, but I just don't, I just don't see it going well. I just don't, especially with AI as the way it can be weaponized.

What scares me the most is that, is the question of what, how much are we going to have to comply to maintain that universal basic? There you go. Like, what if they start implementing rules say, you can't post this on social media or you lose your $10,000 a month? That's the problem. Right? And a lot of people are going to comply to that. Yep. Right.

Especially the 99% of the world who will have to have that just to survive and aren't going to be able to push the boundaries even farther and try to build like real wealth on top of that to where that's the basic income is irrelevant now. Yeah. Now, I think you're right because in order to maintain social harmony, you know, you're going to have to have control. And so how do you control people? Well, if you're giving them money, you can control how much you give them.

Exactly. And what they can do with it, right? So we're back in the same dilemma, right? With, you know, digital currency and what you see going on kind of right now in China a little bit. Once this happens, you no longer have sovereignty anymore. You're relying on somebody in the government to make right choices for you because, you know, you made a choice and they don't like your choice. So they're going to punish you for your choice.

And suddenly they're controlling your life. you really no longer in control of it. And this is my point about men, you know, our sovereignty is gone. Our purpose, you know, our ability to provide and protect is out the window. That's what makes us who we are. The reality is men are driven by purpose, by being able to provide and protect. That's our purpose in life. And when you take that from us, have you ever seen the study on Mousatopia?

Oh, yeah. Right? Classic example. Look what happened. Freaking, they're all dead. You know, they were living in heaven. And then they created hell and they're all dead. Yeah.

You know? And even the, even the mice, the male mice, didn't want to have sex anymore. You know? And the female mice were like, only fans, fuck mice, you know. And they didn't want to have sex either. They just wanted the damn money and looked good. I don't think it's going to go well for human nature. I think we've engineered our own extinction.

I keep saying that, but I really do. And I don't think we have that much time because AI is moving so fast, man. It's moving incredibly fast. And when they're talking about in two years, a universal income, that's right around the corner. That's not far away at all. What we could change that? I don't think anything's going to change that. I think we're too far down the road, man.

I mean, how do you hit the brakes on AI? How do you stop this? The Chinese aren't going to stop doing what they're doing. The Russians aren't going to stop. Right. We're not going to stop. I think Trump already said pull the plugs, go for it, do all you can with AI. I mean, he knows.

we can't put limitors on ourselves if the Chinese, the Russians, and everybody else is not. Right. So in order for us to stay competitive and protect ourselves from these people, we're going to have to just go full bore on this thing. And where does that road take us? Right. I don't know, man. So I tell my friends, I tell everybody I talk to, you know, enjoy every day like at your last because it could very well be. And hope for the best. But in the meantime, focus on taking care of yourself, be the best version of yourself, you know, and prepare yourself. So you have a chance if that day ever comes, which I think it will. But about a year ago, I got a text for an unpaid traffic toll.

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You know, it's just a big tender box right now. And as much faith I have in Donald Trump, I don't think he's going to be able to stop it. I think it's just gone too far. And talking to some of my friends that are in this circle, I don't want to drop names or nothing like that. But they're telling me that, even within the perimeter, man.

You know, this guy's got to watch his back because he's got, he's got rhinos. He's got who? Confederates, Trump and others in a circle that they're willing to cut his throat in a minute, you know. They're actively working against him, you know. The guy's got his, he's got his handful. And I wish him the best because we all, we all really need his best. Because if somehow this gets flipped back to the Democrats, man, we're done.

Well, it seems, it does seem odd that he's doing a lot of the things, the opposite of what he campaigned for, right? Like all the wars. Like, he campaigned to end all the wars. Release the Epstein files. No Epstein files. Yeah. More wars. Like the Venezuela thing.

I know a lot of people like to say, like the Venezuela thing was smart. It made sense. Nothing went wrong. It seemed like a very quick, effective, tactical mission to get the guy out of there. Then you have people on the other side saying, like, well, what difference is that going to make? They didn't decap- all they did was decapitate the regime. It's still the same regime in place. It's just the vice president now.

Nothing's going to change there. And then, you know, then you have the whole Iran thing. You know, the bombing Iran, it looks like any day they're going to bomb Iran again. The Greenland thing, it's just like, you know, I don't know what to make of it. And there seems like a lot of people that there's people that are kind of like pragmatic about all this who can look at it, like separated from being attached to it. You know, people like to like wrap their whole identity

and put their political ideology. Yeah. And then you have like people who will just change their opinion on whatever Trump does. Like, oh, well, I think it's good that he did that. No matter what he does. Like there, he couldn't do it. He could do nothing bad.

Yeah. I think the Venezuela thing, I wouldn't call it war. No, no, no. But, but, you know, it was combat action. Okay. Sure. And I could have turned into something uglier.

But I think he's actually got a control of it. Yeah. I don't think it's going to, it's going to, it's going to go our way. what's the name, Delsey, the vice president. She's actually very pro-American. And she's got to do her maneuvers just to keep face, a safe face. But I believe, I think that's in the back. And probably a good thing because we kept the Chinese and the Russians away.

Now Trump's looking at Greenland. That's always, it's not a new phenomenon. It's been a phenomenon for a long time. And he just decided that for, I think the other reason he's doing it is just, the fact that he just showed the Chinese and the Russians, I just beat all your defense systems and there's nothing you could do about it. They've got to go back and spend more money on their war machine. Like, oh, shit, how far ahead are the Americans, right? And so they're going to have to put more money that they don't have into building up their war stocks. Their war machine, right? They're

troffers. They're running dry. And I think this is Trump's playing a chess. And I think also with NATO, he's playing a game with them too, going, look, you know what? dude, you've been riding our coattails, you haven't been paying your fair share, we've been protecting your ass. And now, you know, we want to protect everybody's ass. And so this is what we need and it's time to pony up. So what did they do? They said, what, 40, 40 dudes, like the Europeans, the Russians, the Germans and look, you know, we got forces on the right. 40 dudes. They lay it lasted two days and they left already, right? So. Where? The Greenland. Oh, oh. Yeah, right? So they already left. Yeah. I think they left us today, right?

Wow. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I'm gonna do with 40 dudes, right? See you can find something on that, Steve. Right? But I think what he's doing is playing chess, and he's pointing out everybody's hypocrisy, but more importantly, I think what he's doing, he's forcing people to start putting money into self,

into their defense, and they're not going to be able to defend themselves. They're not going to be able to defend Greenland. So I think he's saying, hey, we'll do it. But he's not dumb enough to take it. He's going to make concessions for Greenland. It's going to work out good for them. It's going to work out for the Europeans as well.

and it'll definitely work out for the Americans, you know, along with Venezuela. So I don't see him as the war president, but I do see where he needs to, sometimes you just got to do things. It's not very popular and maybe it does seem to contradict what you ran on. But I really don't believe he's interested in starting a prolonged war with anybody. I think he's just interested in manipulating people to get what we as Americans need and want for our own protection. No, look at not U.S. forces, NATO forces. Just see what the status is on NATO forces going to Greenland. Yeah, they send like a handful of guys over each country.

Oh, we got this. Right. Yeah, recent short-term NATO deployments, specifically German troops for a recon mission have concluded and left Greenland, but NATO forces haven't permanently departed. The alliance remains engaged in Arctic security with Denmark and Greenland, the ongoing U.S. presence at the Thule Air Base. the German troops left quickly after their publicized Arctic Endurance exercise in mid-January framing it as a routine brief deployment despite speculation. Yeah.

Yeah, they're just an attempt to a show of force, which is pretty weak, right? Yeah. Like, we got this. We're 40 of us. We got this. Yeah. Right. So the two Germans left now that are 38.

But yeah. I think, like I said, I think he's playing. CHS and you know we don't know what we don't know so we'll see in time where this goes but uh i wanted to ask you also to switch gears a little bit um i've been waiting to get you in here to get your take on this somebody like you with such high level training and who's been involved in all kinds of crazy military operations what your take is on this whole ice debacle with ice recently killing that girl and it seems everybody i talked to everybody online their opinions strictly align with their political beliefs.

Everyone just brings all their political baggage to this thing and no one can look at it through like an objective lens. I'm sure you've seen the videos. What's your take on all that? Well, you know, when you look at all the evidence, right? So it's not just some chick was in the car and wanted to leave and got shot. It's not how it actually started. It started earlier in the day with her actually chasing ice agents around town,

interfering with their operations, putting a car between them. She was interfering, physically interfering her and her, whatever, girlfriend, whatever his chick was, right? Call her a wife. But anyways. But if you look at all the footage, especially from the front, you know, everybody says, you know, a police officer shouldn't put himself in front of a vehicle. Right.

Well, what about if a police officer walk around the front of vehicle to get to the other side? Okay. Which is exactly what he was doing as he was. was filming. She turned the wheels, backed it up, and then turned it to the right, and got on the gas, and it clearly shows where she hits the guy, and he drew the weapon and he shot her in the face. Do I think he was right? Absolutely, because that 4,000-pound vehicle will kill you just as a day as a gun. And when we start, and I think, honestly, I think ICE and law enforcement has tolerated too much from too many people, and people have come to expected cops.

shouldn't do anything when in fact I think they should. So I don't think he was wrong. He took one or two shots, obviously killed her. She tried to run him over with the car. You think she was trying to run him over? Whether she was not, she wasn't compliant. And she was using her vehicle to get away, which is... I think she was trying to peel out of there.

Yeah, but nonetheless, you've got a guy stand in front of the vehicle and you're going to give it gas, a law enforcement officer after he was told to get out of the vehicle. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, no matter what the situation is, if you're being... detained by law enforcement. It's not a good move to try to fucking step on the gas and fucking run. If you tell you, get out of the car, get out of the car.

It's not a smart move. You know, comply. But everybody's just gotten too comfortable with being disrespectful. They all think they're lawyers. They think they know the law better than the cops do. You know, and they try to evoke their emotion with all this stuff rather than, you know, logic. Yeah, that guy was standing in front of the vehicle. he was moving around as he was filming and when she gave the vehicle gas now i got to admit he's a

pretty fast draw that was a quick draw to get that gun out and take that shot yeah but you got it done and also he was pretty close to like the other guy was like pretty close to that like he could if he could admit that guy was probably his head probably would have been five feet to the right of her head yeah not even but you know if people would just you know let law enforcement do their job i wonder how much this is really doing right like all these these ICE agents that are out here. You see the videos of them every day. There's so many videos of these guys doing crazy stuff like frisking people, like American citizens and all that stuff. And, and, you know, I've seen reports from Biden. I've seen reports. Trump said Biden led in 10 million

immigrants. I've seen reports about 30 million that Biden led in. And so far these guys have gotten what, like 100,000 people that they've deported. Like they're not even going to put a fucking dent. Well, they're going after, what they know are guys that are actually criminals, right? So they have a criminal record. That's who they're actually targeting. They're not targeting everybody, just the criminals. But I also know that they're getting ready to...

Is that... The guy right there in the front of the car, that's the guy that shot her? The guy who's like angled? Yes. So the car did strike him. Oh, yeah, I did. Yeah, he... Actually gave some internal injuries, too.

Wow. There's the action. Yeah, it feels to me like... I don't know. It feels to me like they could have like a much more effective way of dealing with like the actual criminals, right? Like then just this seems like theater to me. Well, let me ask you this. So what would be the effective way?

I have no. That's my point, right? I'm not smart enough. At the end of the day, like I said, already, it comes down to the man on the ground with a gun because no technology is going to capture these guys. You've got to go and get them because they're going to run away. They're going to hide. but they're going to do things, right? So you've actually got to go physically grab them.

That's what they're doing here. They're not grabbing grandma that came over the border, you know, with her grandkids for freedom. They're going after hardcore criminals. Yeah, but they are, they are like arresting and zip-tying grandmas and like children, like six-year-olds. Yeah. And people who have been here for for decades that have not been violent or just trying to work.

Like they have gotten a lot of those types of people. Yeah. So how else do you do it, right? So you can do nothing. And here's what happens when you do nothing. These guys are going to keep cheating like they have been, right? Because the whole reason Biden let these people in, he was trying to bolster the Democratic vote.

That's what he's hoping. Sure. Right? That's the only reason they're doing it and to create this disruption. But here we are now. So now we got all these people came to our country that illegally.

And what do we do with these? people because if we let them stay, most of them are going to vote Democrat. That means this country would be a Democrat country forever, a socialist Democrat country. Moreover, they're basically bleeding our, you know, our welfare systems. You know, they're getting monies. They're getting our tax money, right? And I have a real problem with that because why are we given my tax money to send some other guys, guys, kids, kids, the college,

feed them, put them in a nice house, all these things that they've been getting. Yeah. You know, and that's my tax money, but I don't even get to spend that kind of money on my own children and why are we doing this? So I've got a real hard on with all of this, especially the way the money's being dispersed. You know, the Somalis, all the damn money they have stolen, and that's just, sounds like it's the tip of the iceberg. This is our money, by the way, you know.

And although maybe they're not reaching right in my pocket and taken out, I'm still paying a lot of taxes every month because it's kind of true. crap. And so there's there's the problem. Moreover, I don't have a problem with immigrants. My wife is, my wife is an immigrant, my son, my mother, you know, I mean, I come from a family of immigrants, but they did it right. And there's no problem with that. You know, it's when people come over here and you bring the criminals in and people are getting killed and murdered and kidnapped and you see all the crap that's going on. That's where I have the problem. But how do you fix it? Right. So I think this is the way. Get the worst of the worst out first. Put everybody on notice. And sometimes you, you know,

I think it's a, you know, there's no argument against having a strong, no good argument I've ever heard against having a strong border. I think that's something that we need and getting ready to, like the criminals and the gang violence and all that kind of stuff. The cartels, all that crap needs to be, needs to be taken care of. Try that. Try that in a foreign country. For example, go to Indonesia and overstay your visa. They will come looking for you. They will find you. And it will grab you right there and your flip-flops and your Bermuda short. And put you on the first thing, smoke it, and you'll never come back. They don't play.

The rest of the world doesn't play this game. We're the only ones playing this stupid game. You can't go to any other country and think that, oh, they're going to accept me. You know, no, they don't accept you, especially in Asia, man. You know, you'll always be an outsider. And if you show up as an outsider and you're not there legally and you're doing things that are questionable, Like, for example, there was two girls, black girls from California, not too long ago, a couple years ago. And now, I don't know why I thought they were conservatives, but they were inviting all their friends to come to Bali because it's so inexpensive here and you can do what you want and ba, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know.

And anyways, that was on social media. And literally, these two girls were walking down the street one day and their flip-flops and shorts and got rolled up and got deported. Like, do not invite your ilk and, you know, your LGBTQ community come here thinking everything's free and you can do what you want to do type of thing, you know? Yeah. They had zero tolerance for that kind of stuff. Right. We're the only ones that, and I don't say we tolerate it. People in this country tolerated, but I don't think everybody tolerates it.

I don't want to tolerate it. I mean, that, I mean, there's so much. I mean, it's that. I mean, look at all the poverty. Look at it like, you know, you can't walk through Washington, D.C. into the Capitol building without stepping over a homeless, fucking. fucking veteran. People with needles hanging out of their arms. You know, there's so much goddamn poverty in the inner cities in this place. But yet we just expanded the defense budget by what, 1.5 trillion dollars for defense,

like for all these crazy wars and all of this military spending and stuff like that, when there's so many problems here, talking about taxpayer dollars. Like, we can't choose where our tax money goes. It seems like we have absolutely no fucking say. It seems like we're living on three, if there's three different planes, at least, of existence when it comes to this world. like us, normal everyday people, then there's the government,

whatever you want to call them, these like people who, you know, walk around in Congress and elected politicians who virtue signal to their side and take money for this, money for that,

who are basically cheerleaders for the president, whoever side they're on. And, you know, then you have like the military who they're going to do whatever the fuck they want to do, right? whatever they think is in their best interest that's going to assure their longevity and their position,

it's not like they're not consulting the citizens on what they really want. They're just going to, they're going to try to get into power via whatever means possible to do whatever the fuck they want. Like there's, it's, it's, they're completely isolated from us. A good example is this knucklehead and Mandami in New York. mayor, right? You ran on all these promises. And after he got elected, like, uh, okay, I guess we can't do all those things that we want to do. Like no free buses, no free grocery stores. Yeah. You know, all the, you know, it was all just to get there, right? And then he's like, oh, well, you know, in order for all this stuff to happen, you guys don't have to give me more tax money, right?

It's always the, it's always the game. But here's the problem I have with taxes now. More than ever, um, I used to pay my taxes like a good little American until I started, you know, for example, the whole Doge thing. When I saw, that we spent, I think, what was it, $5 million or $50 million, we sent Mozambique to circumcised African men. Yeah. How does that benefit me and my family? The State Department was blowing so much goddamn money. Yeah.

So why cutting off some guy's pecker is that, how does that help me as an American and my children, right? All this crap this money was going to, this is taxpayer money, right? And so you're going to squander my money on shit like that. Right. Don't expect me to pay taxes. Just hiding it. I'm just going to keep hiding it. Now even more so.

And I think Trump will be smart just to do a flat tax because a lot of people are going to, they've, like me, it's like, you know what? I'm hiding my money because you're not taking my money and cutting off some guy's pecker with it because whatever, it makes somebody else feel good. Not doing that stuff, you know, and you mentioned. And what about all the money mentioned missing from the Pentagon too? The Pentagon has it passed an audit in how long? Exactly. Now, all that money everywhere, right? So who is control?

Well, think about this, put the shooting the other foot. imagine you're in charge of the government. You're in charge of the military, right? And you have to make sure that the United States is the top dog no matter what, which means we have to develop a secret military. We have to develop secret weapons, crazy weapons that no one's ever heard of. But it has to remain secret or else we're not going to be able to be dominant, which means we can't report it to Congress.

Yeah. Well, there is some of that, right? I know that because you're right. Some things just can't be disclosed because it would be an operational security. problem but um and i get that part of it but you mentioned you know spent a lot of money on defense and when you brought up the fentanyl thing i had a flashback so i was working in san francisco for a couple months during covid actually six months right um they had a big problem there and they guess they still do but the problem is getting less because all the all the stores are closing out

because there was a big problem as you remember you know people going to smash it and grab and and steal and everything you could still up to nine hundred fifty dollars worth of stuff before it's even a felon you know, cops weren't arresting anybody because they were told not to. I know because I worked with them. People there were leaving, literally leaving their cars unlocked on the side of the road just so their windows wouldn't get smashed because they knew somebody was going to go in their car. Yeah, it was, it was the most, I've never seen anything like that. On an average day, I would watch about 70 shoplifting incidents in one day at one department store, right? And I wouldn't even sure what my purpose was. I thought my job was to come there and protect the employees because

they're getting the crap beat of them or maybe to help mitigate the theft. But actually, I was just there to be a scarecrow. It was what I found out later on. They wouldn't let me do anything. Like, not even help an employee. I'm like, what am I doing here, right? And so then I found out what they were doing. So again, I won't mention the store's name. I should, but it's not just that store. It's a lot of stores. What they do is so somebody comes in and, you know, that right the way what we do is, I hate to say profiling, we have people that their job is to profile people that come in and they're pretty good at it, right? They're usually young kids and go, yeah, that guy's probably going to steal, yeah, she's probably going to steal. Then they follow them around.

They watch them steal stuff. And then they take note of how much stuff they stole, you know, the quantity, the amount. And then they'll tell the person, hey, you're going to pay for that, right? And then the person will go, no, what are you going to do about nothing? And then they'll walk out the store with it because you can't do anything because cops aren't going to arrest him. And even if it's $950 worth of stuff, nothing's going to happen. right? So what happens is then they turn this ticket in and they go, yeah, this person stole, you know, $300 with their shoes, right? And then what they do is they turn around and give that ticket to the insurance company. And the insurance company has to pay because, look,

we're doing everything we can. Look, we got this guy over here. It looks like a ninja. And he can't stop them. They don't tell them that I'm not doing nothing because they won't let me. They'll actually threaten to fire me if I did do anything other than just stand there. I made a lot of money. Just standing there like a scarecrow. Like, are you kidding me? You pay me all this money. They were paying the cops even more. They were paying the cops $1,200 a day just to sit there. I had to stand. They got to sit, right? And they were deputizing me to go act on their behalf because they didn't want to get fired, right? And that's how crazy it was getting, right? And so, but the where I was going with this thing was every 10 feet, you had somebody on fentanyl.

And they all do that fentanyl hunch, you know, where they bend over at the waist and their arms they're hanging, dangling, and their snots drooling out of their mouth and their nose all over the floor. And not even moving. They're just, I don't even know how they can stand like that without falling over. And they'll stay there like 30 minutes, totally catatonic on fentanyl, right? Everywhere. There were bodies everywhere. I knew there's one girl, she was security guard, security officers, but she was armed.

Every night she had to patrol 4th Street and Market Street, and she would show me pictures the next day of dead bodies on the road. It was like every night I'd go to a sweep and pick up dead bodies. Yeah. Right. I had a dude get stabbed at death right in front of my hotel. Never made the news, right? They don't want to talk about stuff like that. They want you to think San Francisco was perfect. Now, I haven't been there since COVID, so I don't know what it looks like now, but I imagine it's probably not much different. But the problem was I saw so much fentanyl. So much fentanyl. So much fentanyl. And it's so dangerous. I was carrying Narcan with me. The cops gave me Narcan. I said, dude, if you touch somebody that's got fentanyl, you get something on your finger, you, you're going to go down. I've actually helped guys They went down with fentanyl poison. I mean, they're out, and you hit them with Narcan and bring them back. But so I look at it like this. Over 100,000 people die every year from fentanyl.

Where's it coming from? It's coming actually from the Chinese through South America. And I happen to be working on another project. In Mexico, directly into Mexico. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm actually working on a project right now related to that with, I got to watch how I say this again, but again, it's in front of people in government. But this is a real thing.

these are this this is literally warfare and they're using fentanyl to take out americans and do what they've been doing to us so when i look at funding i'm hoping that trump is putting money towards the counter narcotics operations hey let's sink more of those damn boats you know let's go get venezuela because this is a they're killing americans and i know americans that are not here anymore that died from fentanyl just from what do you call it? Just casual exposure to it. They touched somebody that had it or they went down,

they went to go help them. You know, what the hell? It happens pretty fast, too, by the way. It'll induce a heart attack right away. Good news that Narcan will reverse it quickly if you have it with you, right? So I look at it from that standpoint. You know, we are in a war.

We are in World War III. It's fifth generation warfare as well. And, you know, don't expect to see bullets flying and missiles, not any time soon, because we're already there. And it's a war of will. It's a war of information. And whoever wins that information warfare is going to rule.

And this is what we'll compete with AI and all the things that are going on right now. And so for the average person that's wondering, well, what about me? Well, here's what I got to say about you, you're on your own. Nobody's coming. Nobody's coming. Nobody's coming to help you. Nobody, honestly, if you think the government cares about you, they don't. They really don't.

Because, you know, who is the government? You know, it's a bunch of weak men. and aggressive women up there, dictating policy, making decisions, not for your benefit, but for their benefit. At the end of the day, it's just for them. You know, and I hate to sound so anti-government because I wouldn't always like this.

But I guess with age comes experience. You know, I'm almost 63 years old, and I look back and I'm like, man, you know, did I do some good things? Yes. Did I do some bad things? And now to think about it, you know, there's some things I was involved in

and I do regret, like, for example, Mogadishu, right? So, well, we got a lot of dead Americans and nothing to show for it because why politics? You know, what was that, what was that thing you said? Mogadishu. What is that? Remember, Black Hawk Down? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

So we had a mission and got a bloody nose. Wasn't over. But Bill Clinton, because of his politics and the view of that decision, he decided to pull us out. So, you know, we lost five Delta Force operators. You know, one of them, we used to be on my team. And then we lost a bunch of ranges. I think 18 total KIA plus 77, I think WIAs. And to what end?

What did we get out of that? Nothing, right? Now you look at Kabul. All right, 20 years, big war. And we walk away and give $82 billion with equipment and we lose. Right. What did we win? What did we gain?

Now that we kill a lot, we kill a lot of Americans. And not as an American, but NATO, you know, soldiers. To it in. And when I look at stuff like that, I'm like, you know, it's not the soldier's fault. The soldier did his job. As a military, we kick ass. We've always kicked ass. It's the politics that loses the war force, particularly the politicians. And so I look back at Mogadishu. I look back at Bagram with huge regret, you know. And I remember one of the reasons I left Afghanistan. So I spent almost 10 years going back and forth between Afghanistan, Iraq, and a few other countries.

But I've got over two years alone just in Afghanistan. And I remember, circa 2010, yeah, 2010, almost 2011. I got another ambush. And I call it my final ambush. But basically what happened was I remember thinking myself, if I get out of this one, that's it. I'm not doing it more, right? Because this one looked almost impossible to get out of.

The guy is pretty good. And we did get out of it. And I decided, you know what? I'm going to keep my promise to myself. At the time, I think I was 47, 48. So it's time to hang up your guns. Go home and be with your family, you know. And not, but what really drove that decision more than anything was when I looked around

at the state of the war and I looked at the state of the military at the time and the attitudes, I started to realize good men are here are dying for nothing, man. Why? Because there were operations I wanted to do. Now give you a good example, right? So I had this idea. So all the bad guys would always hide, especially leadership, you know, they would run to Pakistan. You know, they'd come over to Afghanistan or maybe they're already in Afghanistan. They would set up a VBID or an IED and kill a bunch of Americans and run away, right? That's how they were winning, right? Those type hit and run tactics. And I had an idea one day. I was like, you know what? What if I basically built a little more. monster garage, right? And I get me some trucks, some, the same trucks they use your high-lux pickup trucks, you know, for hauling goats and stuff like that. And I turn them into VBIDs. I'm really good at building bombs, right? And I said, I could make VBIDID out of one of these vehicles. BID mean? A vehicle born and provides explosive device, right? So a car bomb, right? So what I was going to do is take these trucks and build them so they were basically full of explosives.

But they look like they're hauling goats and then strategically warehouse them and then place them in front of, you know, a bad guy's house, you know, a leader, for example. And when he comes out to check his mailbox in the morning, you know, set the car off on him, right? So, um, and that would have been easy to do. And what we were, and what I was trying to implying with that was, let's stop moving to ambush. Let's stop rolling down the road, get ambush, fighting out of a vehicle, and then they run away. I said, what we need to do is go unconventional. And, uh, play their game. Play their game, right? And so I, I put the whole concept together. I sent it up, to the decision makers and then they came back with all kinds of red Xs on it and said something

to the fact like we're not in the business of making VBIDs right like that's a bad thing I'm like what they're doing it why don't we do it to them right so I changed the I changed the request from I forget I think I did call them VBIDs but I changed them to WEDs wield explosive delivery system right I just made up a word weds right I said I'm sorry I didn't mean VBIDs I meant WEDs We'll expose you delivery systems. We'll make wed systems, right? So we'll pre-position them, right? And, yeah, they came unhinged over that shit.

I'm like, are you guys interested in win this war or not? Because fighting an unconventional force with conventional forces doesn't work. You should see that. It's happening every day, right? I said, the only way you win is you go unconventional on these guys. You become the boogeyman. They're afraid of in the night, right? And that's when I realized they're not interested in winning this war.

Nobody's care about winning. This war could have been over so long ago. But it's not. Why? Because people are making money. Right. You know, it's all the bad shit that goes along with it. You know, there's no reason we should have been there for 20 years. That thing could have been over in 20 months or faster, you know. If people just, you know, slip the reins, slip the leads off the dogs and let them go, man, you know.

But we don't do that stuff. Why? Because opinions and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And can't hurt the bad man. Because if you hurt the bad man, the bad man won't be nice to the good man. And like, come on. You know, like the interrogations. You can't interrogate. You know, you can't arrest someone and make him a prisoner.

You know, he's got to be a detainee and you got to give him all his rights and you can't be mean to him. You can't say mean things to him. Like, are you kidding me? Is this where we're at? Right. You know, that's the crazy part, man. That's the craziest part. You know, the other thing they did, I just throw us out real quick, quick point is when McCain came out and said, you know, interrogations don't work, blah, blah, blah.

And then everybody got behind that, yeah, yeah, they don't work. So no more interrogations. Then what was happening was we'd go out and usually we rolled up bad guys. We didn't try to kill them all, right? Because they got information in their head we might be able to use, right? So that was really the mission was to grab these guys, interview them, whatever you want to call it, right? A little bit of enhanced interrogation. Yeah.

Well, you know, honestly, it didn't take much of that. Right. There's just them being afraid that they might get hurt. They would sing like a canary, right? So, yeah, the crazy thing about that is like, if you're going to do it, like, just do it. Don't try to like hide the fact or like go around laws. Like the problem was that they they literally like made this crazy law where it's illegal to do it, but we're going to do it secretly anyways and no one can talk about it.

Yeah, right? And so just change the law. Yeah, it makes no sense, right? We were catching guys. And the first question they would always ask us is, are you arresting me as a terrorist or are you arresting me as a criminal, right? Because they were hoping you said terrorists. Because if you said terrorists, that means we're going to take them back to our facility.

They're going to get locked up for three days, bed, breakfast. They're going to get taken care of. Nobody's going to yell on them. We'll say nice things to them. Right. And all they got to do is shut their mouth for three days. And we've got to let them go with all their stuff. Right.

But if you're going to arrest them as a criminal, that means you're handing them over to A&P, Afghan National Police, right? That's a different story. That's going to be bad. It's going to get really ugly. So they were always hoping you'd get him as a terrorist because, and I don't know how many times I've arrested the same guy over and over, you know. And it was almost like they're like, hey, how's it going again?

And I'm like, you again, again, that's the last time, right? So, you know, and that's what it's turned into. It turned into a joke is what it turned into. And people should just let war fighters fight, let them do their job. And things will be resolved really quick. Leave the politics out of it, you know? Right. But we didn't do that there either.

And so my regrets are some of the things that did happen, some of things that didn't happen. And unfortunately, you know, what do you do about it? We live in this world. There's nowhere to escape it. No matter where you go, you can't escape it, right? Well, I mean, a great example of this is Billy Waugh, who was tracking bin Laden and literally taking photos of bin Laden, like across the street from where he was. Yeah.

I don't remember what year this was, but this was probably. a couple of years leading up to 9-11 before 9-11 happened and he went to I think the top one of the top dudes at the CIA trying to get permission to take him out he said he could have easily killed him yeah and they wouldn't let him do it yeah interesting right I had to see why well I had a similar situation so I was at a camp and all my guys were no longer operational they had to stand down before I got there I'm like why well because they had a problem had uprising in the ranks right And then I decided, I determined it wasn't the guys. It was the handlers before me that came in, right?

They weren't doing their job. But long story short, my guys had to be retrained and recertified. And that's why I was there. And one day we get a call that right down the road about a kilometer away maybe was the guy that shot down, was it turbo 3-3, turbine 3-3, the C-H-47. He shot it down with a RPG and he killed a bunch of Americans on board. And he was only like 21 years old, young guy. And he was the guy, he was, I think, the second or third most wanted man in Afghanistan at that point. And we got in until he's right down the road visiting somebody right now.

And I'm like, dude, let me go get him. Right now. Listen, I'll go get him. And they're like, no, no, no, no. And they called up top and came back. And no, no, no, no, no, no, you know, no. I said, look, no, you guys aren't ready. I said, who said they're not ready?

I'm the decision. I make the decision. I'm, they're ready. No, no, no, no, no. they got to be evaluated, stupid stuff, right? Like, are you kidding me? I said, I tell you what, you guys are paying me a lot of money

to be here and do this job, right? I'm not just doing this job. I said, I'll go myself. You just say, yes, okay, I said, I'll go get him myself. Just tell me where's that, and I'll go get it myself. Oh, no, no, no.

They didn't want to do it. It's like, we're going to let this guy get away. He's right here, you know? It was that kind of nonsense. And, man, there's stuff. There are stories. If I told you here right now, people would lose their shit in America.

There's stuff that it's like classified shit. Yeah, it's pretty much classified. It's stuff that, you know, it'll get me locked up. And people, it's going to piss a lot of people off. But, you know, we have done things. I say we, certain people have done things that are just egregious, man. It's just, it just proved to me again. These guys have no interest in winning this war.

All they want to do is drag it out. Somebody's profiting off this, making money off of this. And men and women are dying for no reason. And so would I do it all again? That's the question sometimes. And the answer is yes. I just wish I was smarter when I was doing it next time. So I could be a little bit more aware what's really going on and how I'm being manipulated.

So I can make better choices, you know. And not say it was all bad. Most of it was good. But, you know, again, we're just this cog and this really big wheel. And what are you going to do, man? You know, I can't escape it. I live in a foreign country. I live in several foreign countries,

and there's still no escape because I'm still beholden to another foreign government and their police and their laws and all their stuff that goes with it. I've been to over 101 countries in my life, worked there, live there, travel there. And if you had to find one place where I could say, you know what, here, you're truly free. And you don't have to worry about nothing. There's no place like that. I can't find one place like it. That's concerning, right?

To say the least. We're all in this one big ass cage, man. You know, big mouse utopia. We're all going to die. We will eventually somehow. Have you ever had the conversations like this with Billy Wall? No, actually, I've never really had a chance to sit down and speak much with him. Like you said, no, he's always on the go.

How did you meet him? He was assigned to me. Yeah, he just gives me, I get a phone call one day. And hey, it's me. And tomorrow morning I need you do this. And I mean, you meet me here. and that's how I know. Yeah, I was just, that's how I got to know.

You had, were you aware of who he was? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was actually shocked too. And I was like, well, you're still around? Yeah. Yeah, he was up there man in age, but, uh, he's a fucking legend. Yeah, he still out there doing it, man.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, he died what in, uh, like two years ago? Yeah, it would not longer. A couple years ago, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember like everybody was flying in from all around the country. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's definitely a legend, man. We need more of those, you know. But, um, so are you allowed to talk about any of this stuff that you did? Like, wait, so he was your quote unquote handler? Yeah, basically when I said, a handler, you know. CIA. Yeah, it's kind of a, so handler is not necessarily a misnomer, but his job was help facilitate

or enable, right? Right. Hey, I need to go do this. Where do I find it? There you go, go do that. Or he comes down with him structured. to go do this or be here at this time. Okay. But not a lot of interaction. No. And there came a point where, really, I didn't have to ask anybody for anything. They just call me and tell me what I

need to know if I need to know it. And if I need to know something, I'd call them and they'd tell me. But it was pretty caught. Just tell you what? Like, what were the instructions? If I want to go to work, right? Yeah. I need to go to work. Got a thing open? Yep. Okay. When you want me report? A couple days. Okay. You know, or hey, you need to go to work. I think I'm taking another month off. Okay, call me a month. It was that simple. Everything was that simple.

It was a different world when I was working there. Do you remember the first time you met him in face-to-face? Yeah, it was actually at my hotel. He came by at my hotel. Really? Yeah, the first time I met him. In the U.S.? Yeah.

And then I saw him downrange a few times. But it's kind of funny, man. You run into a lot of people in the world. that he hadn't seen in years and years and years. Like I ran on my platoon leader from the 82nd when he was a first lieutenant back at 1983. And I'm down range in 2010, I think. And there he is a long trench coat and a cowboy hat, you know. It's kind of kind of eerie, you know.

Wow. But he used to be my lieutenant, much older guy now, you know. But, yeah, I met a lot of guys down there. And I've met people that I don't know that knew me from the craziest part. I was out one location out in the middle of nowhere in the desert. And there's a magazine with Soldier of Fortune. And it's got my picture all over it in my name. I'm like, you know, guys are looking at me going to magazine.

I don't know who that is. Because I use a different name, right? I don't know if that guy is. But yeah, it's a small world, man. It keeps getting smaller and smaller. Did you ever have to like dress up in like crazy disguises like Billy did? Yeah, actually I've got pictures where I've actually dressed up like Al Qaeda, done some ops. Had to do one up in particular where we knew a guy was, we knew a guy had a guy had a briefcase with hard drives in it, bunch of passports, blackbook full of phone numbers.

Apparently he had everything in the golden egg. He had all that we would need to take down Al Qaeda. right? And he was traveling from one place to another. Then he's going to stop off his little village. And so we had intel that he was going to be there on this particular night. He was going to stay there overnight. Then he was going to move on to his final objective. So what we decided to do is, okay, we'll interdict him. So when we went there, it's about a five-hour drive. And we had to go into the outer parts of the city, right? So it was pretty shiard. any place, but as an American, you'll definitely stand out. And that'll raise a lot of alarms,

right? So, but I got to go with my guys because I'm the only American, right? And these are my guys. And so they fit in because they look like them, but I don't. So I had to, I had to, I hodged up. I looked like a terrorist. And, yeah, and, and we went in and we got to the compound. We kicked in the doors. He was not there. But we did find the suitcase or the briefcase. And so I invoited it right away. Yeah, there's all kinds of passports, black books, hard drives. You know, okay, it's all that. Poo, pooh, pooh, pooh.

It was actually like a leather satchel is what it was, not so much a briefcase. Had outer pockets on it. And so I put everything back and I said, let's go. We jump in the cars. We take off. And then that night, so we had our guys stay somewhere else. But we stayed at a, I shouldn't say this, but, We stayed at a military base.

Let me put it that way, right? Not American, but we stayed at a military base. And in that, they had a, their version of the CIA inside of it. They had an office, right? And they only had one guy there, their case officer, the chief of base. So we've already coordinated with him earlier that we would stay there overnight, you know, and the next morning, we'd land a helicopter and we'd hand this briefcase off and he would fly down to, you know, the capital. And so he agreed to let us stay there.

And so after we get settled in, he's like, hey, you guys want to go eat some German food? German food? Yeah, right down the street. Guy came back from Germany, opened up a German restaurant. It's really nice, you know. How fucking nice can it be? Everything's made out of mud here, right?

He said, oh, it's great. So it's okay, let's go, guys. You want to go eat? So we secured everything. And he told us not to bring our guns. I got, no, no, no, no. We don't go nowhere without guns, right? Because this is Indian country.

We know that. So we're going, oh, because they won't mess with you. I said, who's they? And he's talking, referring to al-Qaeda. I said, why won't they mess with you? Basically, what they had done is struck a deal with them. So we won't mess with you if you don't mess with us. That was the deal, right?

I said, that's how you guys are surviving up here because you guys aren't doing nothing. I know they weren't doing nothing, right? So I told my guy, I said, we can't go without guns. We're taking gun. If nothing else, carry a handgun. I said, moreover, secure all sensitive items.

Like, for example, any crypto we have is coming with us, right? So you don't leave that behind. And we ended up leaving the bag, the brown bag, in another rucksack inside the corner area, right? We thought it was going to be secure to CIA, their CIA office inside the military encampment. Doors will be locked. He ensures that nothing will happen. Okay. Well, we go eat at a good dinner, walk back, check.

Oh, yeah, all our stuff's there. Oh yeah, brown bags there. Okay, we're good. Next day, helicopter shows up. We take the brown bag out. We drop it off. It flies south. Now, we got to drive back.

So it's going to take us another day to drive back. We get back. And then the next day, we go, me and one of the case officers, we go to the embassy. And we're excited, right? We want to know what do we get, you know? And we asked one of the chiefs there. So what'd you find out? What'd you find out?

He goes, nothing. What do you mean nothing? Because, yeah, there's nothing. the back. I go, what? He goes, there's nothing in the bag. I make no sense. I inventory. I know there's all kinds of stuff in the bag. Not in the back. I looked at the other guy and he looked at me. I'm like, so we didn't say nothing, right? We're thinking the Germans just screw us, right? So maybe when we were out eating dinner, they came in and took all the stuff out of the brown bag and maybe erased it and or replaced it or just took it out, right? We don't know.

So we're like, damn, did they, you know, we just get screwed here, right? So we don't want to say nothing yet, right? So we go back and do another, we inspect all the vehicles, make sure we didn't somehow drop it in a vehicle or something, right? Which I know we didn't, but we did. I had to double check.

Like, damn, it's, it was in the brown bag. So I go back and I insist, I said, dude, it's in the brown bag. No, there's nothing in a brown bag. So just drop it. So, okay, I'm going to drop it. So I drop it. About a month later, I come back.

And I'm with the other guy. And I said, bro, I said, you sure there was nothing in a brown bag? He goes, I'm positive. I go, who's got the brown bag? He goes, we gave it to the FBI. He said, can we go up to their office? Yeah, so we go up there. Find the FBI guy.

So where's that brown satchel had? It's laying in the corner, just laying in the corner on the floor. Oh, yeah, that one right there. There's nothing in it. So let me see. He hands it to me. I open it up. and all the side pockets there's everything in there i said was in there it's like

did you not even look good lord now this intel is at least 30 days old it's useless wow it's compromised they have to change all the phone numbers and everything right that's the kind of weird shit you know and uh crazy now sometimes people make mistakes sometimes sure yeah you know um i don't know man i was just like scratching my hey, how is it even possible? Because we might have just found the golden egg to win in the whole war, in the whole war, right? So, and now it's just laying in the corner there

and the guy didn't even bother checking the pockets. It was all, I knew it was all. I wasn't going crazy, right? I mean, the other guy's starting to doubt each other. I'm like, damn, dude, you know, this could get you into serious trouble, especially you, you're the boss, right? Right. And he's like, sweating bullets.

Like, man, what do we do? You know, and I was insane. I don't know what do we do. You know, we did all we could do. So hold that thought. I got to take a leak real quick. Yeah. We'll be right back.

Dude, said, I've worked with this guy, John Cullen. Yeah. Holy shit, this guy's a hound dog, man. And this is probably why he's gone. I don't know where he's at. Who is he? His name is John Cullen.

What is he? What is his? He's a investigative journalist. He's actually pretty famous. He's testified in front of Congress. I can tell you some of the stuff that he's done. And like the Butler assassination attempt. Oh, yeah.

That was two snipers, not one. What? The way's talking about that, right? Even the Secret Service said it. Why are they not talking about it? Yeah, there's, I can tell you, Las Vegas, there's Las Vegas shooting. I can tell you about that one. I've sat down with it.

We've gone through this and he's got all the evidence. He's much smarter than I am on it. And he brought me on board to kind of vet some of the stuff. And so I bring my tactical knowledge, my strategic knowledge to play. And, and dude, did you ever talk to? any of the dudes that were there at Butler, any of the snipers? No. No.

That's an interesting story. It's so weird that Trump has not talked about it at all. Well, there's a reason why. See, there's a reason why. Is there? If you got, you wanna record this? Yeah, are we rolling? Yeah, we're rolling.

Yeah, so on that particular one in the Butler, since assassination attempt on. So here's what I believe has happened, based on the investigation me and John Cullen did. I'm going to give you the Reader's Digest version very brief. So it wasn't one sniper, it was two snipers. Okay. Now, why do we say that?

Well, one, looking at the trajectories, the, what do you call it, the acoustics from the weapon systems. Also, even the Secret Service snipers, the second set said they were taking fire from another direction in a tree line. So they actually testified they're taking fire from over here while the other group was taking fire

from the guy over on the rooftop. So they're actually getting it from two different angles. Wait, he only shot at Trump, though, I thought. Bullets were only going towards Trump. Well, there's, yeah, no. Yes and no. So, man, you have to watch the whole segment. So some of their bullets, the way they traveled,

and literally were bouncing off their handrails on the bleachers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The trajectory is completely different from the guy that was shooting, what they thought was originally shooting, right? So here's the theory. And I think it's a pretty good one. I think it's pretty solid. See, you can corroborate any of this stuff, Steve.

Yeah, you were asking why, you know, why Trump hasn't done anything about it. So here's the theory. The theory is it was two snipers. And by the way, the one sniper, the one sniper of the kid, right, they never really identified who he is. there was no information about his home. His history was completely washed. There was no history. Parents, what happened to all that, right?

But they do have cellular data tracking him to Washington C and around the FBI building. FBI Safehouse. Right? Stuff like that. But there's no record of this guy anywhere. He could be anybody. And that's actually what he was, was it John Doe.

Well, did you see any of this stuff that, I don't mean to interrupt, but Tucker Carlson did a whole thing on this, where they basically dug up all kinds of stuff about this kid and posts that he was making on forums and stuff like this, like talking about like how to shoot guns or what type of guns that he had videos of himself, like with his guns, like practicing in his room and shit. Yeah.

But when this happened, the FBI report was there was nothing. Right. But now later, there's all this stuff coming out. Right. So if you're the FBI or the NSA, you would have known about this. Like this guy would have been a huge red flag. Yeah. Well, so the theory is this. Um, this kid was probably already dead, right? And they used him in name only.

Um, they probably went to his parents and listened, you kid's dead. We already know he's dead. He got hit by a car, whatever, right? We'll give you $10 million. We just want to use his name. And we'll give you a hydrodney, blah, blah, blah, blah. Um, the theory is it was two snipers.

And ready for this? They're Ukrainian snipers. Now, why would they be Ukrainian snipers? Yeah, why would they be? Wait, there was a dead body, though. Yeah, but that was, that was just a patsy. right so the theory is at that time this was when the elections was starting to happen the theory was Biden told Zelensky listen man you're probably going to lose all this funding all this crap if Trump wins

he goes if you just happen to send a couple guys over at our country and it just happened to shoot him who knows we're you know we're not going to talk about it the theory is it was two snipers we know it was two snipers and the theory is it was two Ukrainians or one Ukrainian and the kid that was the Patsy because you can't find anything on this kid anymore anywhere not even his parents His home, nothing. He just disappeared. The other guy, we don't know where he's at either. But the Secret Service actually testified in front of Congress

that they're taking fire from two angles. John Collin went to Congress. Really? Find that. Yeah, John Collin went to Congress and testified the same thing. And they're like, yeah, okay, that's nice. You can leave now. So they blew that whole thing off. Now, again, it's on another podcast.

I don't mean to propose another podcast, but me and John was on it. And we spent about two hours just on that. He did most of the analysis, right? He provided everything, the angles, the, what do you call it, the sonic analysis from the, from the muzzle blasts and the distances and on and on and on. And there was just a lot of holes in this story that made no, made absolutely zero sense. Like, where were the drones?

And how the fuck did they miss? Right. Exactly. There's so much going on here, right? So that's just one example of, you know, when we talk about these conspiracy theories, another good one was, uh, so wait, okay. So, so if it was a you, first of all, find that Congress, uh, the Secret Service saying that there was two shooters. Yeah. And John Cullen is his name. He would be, uh, the, the journalist involved in that.

And why was Trump not talking about it? Well, because they think Trump has now leverage on Zelensky says, you do the things my way or it's all, blows up in your face, right? So that's when he also came on board and said, hey, we want the mineral rights to this, you know, this part of Ukraine. Yeah. And he tried to do all that.

We think that was, the theory is that's what he was trying to leverage. Like, hey, we want, just like Greenland and Venezuela, you know, we want to be able to occupy this area and reap the benefits, you know, of the minerals. Another good one, again, like I said, this guy John Cullen, man, every time we got done with the show, we would both say, listen, man, we are not We don't intend to die. We don't want to die. We like life, right? And so, and we would say that jokingly, but I also know we kind of really meant it, especially John, because you can't find John anywhere. He's got no phone number to call. If you want to reach him, you got to send him an email on Proton. He'll contact you and do a Zoom call with you. All right. The guy is very reclusive. He's hides because he's scared to death for his life. And once you start listening to this guy, you start to realize why. He's not an idiot. He's actually pretty smart and he's pretty good at what he does. Another good one was the Las Vegas shooting, you know. Now, everybody just thinks some 50-year-old or 60-year-old dude

went up and, you know, with a gun and a bunch of bullets to kill a bunch of people, right? That's not actually what happened. I don't think that guy shot anybody. In fact, when he checked into the hotel, why is nobody talking about this part? He checked in with three women, Middle Eastern women.

Right. Right? Why? And where do they go? They went to the room with them. All right? Moreover, we have eyewitnesses says that shots were being fired from a helicopter. Yeah.

Right? But if you look at, I forget what it's called now, but there was no aircraft in the air in that area at that time. But that particular helicopter turned off its transponders. And where did that helicopter come from? Right. So it's a little bird. Where did that come from? Arizona.

I think it was, who is it? Boeing that's down there? Anyways, they had something like 12 Saudi pilots. training on those helicopters down there at that time. Right? And suddenly a very similar bird, a little bird with a people pot on it, was hovering and was shooting. Witnesses, I witnessed to saw it. And my question was, I said, John.

Dan Bilzerian talked about this because he was there on the ground. Yeah. And while here's the shooting straight down. Well, at an angle, because here's why. Because I asked John, I said, John, I said, okay, if the helicopter was hovering and shooting, it was probably drifting as he was shooting I said was there brass found on the ground

and he goes yes several blocks in the parking lots had brass expended brass laying on the ground and there's cops out there with their bare hands picking it up and putting it in plastic bags we got video of it all how did the brass get all the way over there from this building moreover

the window he shot from allegedly that night was not broken the one that was broken was next to the one where they found his body. Like, okay, this is making no sense. In another room? In another room, right? And so then they had, the one room had a small hole in it.

The glass had a small hole in it. And they found, I believe it was 8308 spent brass cartridges. And in theory, there were two rounds were fired. Two rounds were fired and hit a, a fuel tank. tank at the airfield at Las Vegas Airport. So they shot at it with armor piercing incendiary and they hit the top of it. And it actually has the black scratch marks where it actually made an impact. So two rounds actually hit.

But they had eight pieces of brass layer. So the theory is they were trying to create a diversion by shooting those field tanks. Now, why would you do all this stuff to kill 50 people on the ground? Because the 50 people on the ground were just a diversion. You know why? Because guess who was staying in the hotel at the same time? NBS. NBS.

We're staying there. All right? staying upstairs. Now, was it the same hotel? Yeah. So check this out. What? This is the craziest part.

So the three girls, the three girls were, what do we call it, Saudi? It's a GIS, Intel, right, honeypots, right? Probably ex-honeypots. But anyway, they're checking in with him in the hotel, but nobody's talking about that, right? Then they got the eight rounds of brass in the other room. The room he's dead in, there's no broken. broken glass, the next day when they come back up to do the forensics, all of a sudden, the glass is broken.

Then he was laying in. Who broke the glass now? It wasn't broken in the morning because that night, they actually have video of the room that he's supposedly in and the grass glass is not broken. Really? Right? There's more. There's so much more to this whole thing.

So here's the other thing. So MBS, his bodyguards was like, we got to roll, right? They rolled out the back in the vehicle and his vehicle shot up. And it's nowhere in the line of sight, a line of fire. helicopter. It's got another building between us. There was a firefight over on the airport, on the airfield, a small one. And it got infrared video, flea footage of five packs with weapons crossed the airfield. And they saw people get into a private jet and then take off. So this is, none of this is in the news, by the way, right? Even the news, the cops said, yeah, there were no

AK-47s. It was just AR-15 with a bumpstock. And I'm looking at the video, go, well, that's an AK-47S with a collapsible stock laying right there lean up against that chair. How are you coming to tell me there's no AK-F? That's why I was on the show. Because I pointed shit out like it. They said there's no AK-40s. I said, there's one right there.

Then they found an entire suitcase full of 30-and-a-40-round AK-47 magazines loaded in another room. What are those there for? And it gets crazy because later on, they have cops on the back side of the hotel about a block away. They see somebody come.

coming down a zip line from the back of the hotel. From the hotel window down the back coming down a zip line into the parking line. What? Yeah. Think about that. And the cops are going, well, wonder what that's all about. Wonder what they're doing it. They didn't even investigate.

Did you just see some people sliding down a zip line? Is that the three chicks trying to make an escape? I don't know. There's so much to this story. Like I said, this was a three hour podcast. And the evidence was just mind boggling. You know, the number of people getting shot. So he only had 1100, I believe 11004 rounds is what he had all total.

And they had, of course, 50 KIAs and lots of people wounded, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But there was another weird anomaly. About 22 people had gunshot wounds to the head, like 22 caliber from a horizontal shot. And someone were on a fucking roof. Horizontal. Yeah. It's like somebody boom, took those kind of shots. Man, I wish I could get a hold of John again because, I mean, it's out there.

This whole podcast is out there. But yeah, there's, you know, nobody was talking about any of this. They just made it sound like some crazy 62-year-old white guy just got up there and started shooting fish in a bowl, right? And that's not true. So what was the story? Somebody was trying to get MBS. They were trying to get MBS. Who?

The Saudis. So why would they get? Because they've been trying to take him out for a long time. because they don't, he's actually more pro-Western and he's a little bit more commisynical, right? So for whatever reason they want, because right after that, 30 days later, he went back and I believe he arrested over 200 people all tied to this. And that guy, Kashoggi.

Yeah. That guy, Kishoggi. Yeah. Okay. That guy's involved in this as well. To what degree I don't know, but there's a reason they took him out because they believe that probably he was an enabler for this whole operation as well. So it starts getting really deep,

but 200 people were arrested when he got back, or when he got back to Saudi Arabia after that, within 30 days. But yeah, it's just the video footage alone speaks volumes. Jesus. This guy's laying right there. There's no whole, no broken glass anywhere in this room. It's in the other room, right? So now Charlie Kirk, you know,

everybody's at, wondering about Charlie Kirk. Everybody's got a theory on Charlie Kirk. So, yeah, well, there's so many people. There's so many, like, ex-military dudes talking about how, like, there's no way that, that round from that matches that gun. And if it's a 30-0-06, the entry wound in the neck, there would have absolutely been an exit wound. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. So here's what, here's the theory.

Again, this is what me and John kind of discussed is, all right. So they're saying that that shot was from a hundred. 143 yards or something like that, right? Yeah. All right, 1443 yards. Again, we've got the acoustics from two different camera systems that were on the left and right side of Charlie Kirk facing the audience, right?

Based on the acoustics, right? The acoustics said that that shot came from 74 yards and not 143 yards to his front. So when you do the intersection, it shows that 74 yards, not out here at 143, right? It actually in front of some trees, not from the trees, you put in front of the trees.

All right. They say there were no drones, but we have video of drones, and actually there's a video of a drone flying right in front of Charlie Kirk away and upward at the same time the shot's fired. Really? Yeah.

And so we looked at the drone, and what we found was there's a particular drone out there. It's got kind of like a hole shape to it. It's about that big. And you can weaponize drones now. Sure. Easy peasy, right? And not only that, you can,

install AI, so facial recognition, it will 100% pick your face out of 1,000 people, every time, right, at different distances. And here's what the theory is. The theory is that drone was armed, had facial recognition in it because you can see it. So if I'm charted, Kirk, face in the audience, it flew over my head just like this, went just like that, and then the shot was taken. And it's out of the picture. It's so fast, right?

We've actually seen it flying around a couple times in there. Now, here's the other crazier part. So the U.S. government has two, they're like G5s, right? These fixed-wing ISR birds. And apparently they're trying to sell them now. I wonder why. But anyways, these birds, they're ISR platforms, but they're also capable of delivering drones. Right.

So imagine a G5 jet that can deliver a drone. And I'm assuming we cover a drone, right? So here's what happened. On that same particular day, before the shooting actually happened, One of those aircraft flew from somewhere up north, like I don't know, maybe Idaho, flew south. It dropped from 14,000 feet to 200 feet, AGL, right there around the university in Utah, dropped to 200 feet, did a loop-de-loop, and then lifted back off, right? 20 minutes before Charlie Kirk was killed, that same aircraft was coming back, dropped down to 200 feet, did a loop-de-loop, and went back north. Right? So again, John was able to get all the communications from the control towers at the time.

And what they couched it as was a missed landing twice. Why, why, how's it a miss landing? You didn't land anyways. You just kept on flying, right? So, but that's how they framed it. It's a mislanding, a missed approach, right? And it took off. The theory is, again, this is me and John's theory. The theory is they delivered a drone or maybe multiple drones. They came out. They probably landed somewhere and sat dormant. until it was time to pull the trigger on, right? And then they came back and recovered that drone and flew away with it. And so, I know that sounds like a far effect, but right now the acoustics are saying 74 yards, not 143, that would put it in front of him

in front of all the trees, right? We see the drone zip up. Same time the shot happens, and you're right, around from 308, 30-odd-6, at that range, it's going to go through and through. Especially right it's going to keep on going. There's no like freak chance that it could like divert, hit the spine and go down like the other guy said it did. No, no, that round.

No, because you can see it's just a flesh wound, right? I mean, right here? Yeah. It didn't hit shit. And even if it went through a spine, most likely it's going to exit out the other side. That's a pretty fast bullet. That's about probably close to 3,000 feet per second. And the other thing I have, the question I have is if you look at the backdrop right where he was sitting,

there's no spalling there, there's no blood splattered, there's no fragmentation, there's no bullet hole, there's nothing there. No, there was even a camera angle released from behind him, and there was zero blood. Nothing there, right? So that, you know, that doesn't, in of itself, doesn't prove anything because maybe the angle, it went off and it maybe went into the dirt somewhere nobody bothered looking for it. I don't know.

But there's a lot of weirdness about this thing, especially the impact, on the backside, there's no impact. nobody seemed to do an investigation for the bullet. Nobody actually talked about the bullet. And then if you look at, you know, that weapon he had, you just don't take it apart like a, for example, an AR-15, you know, like take out too little bolts and fold it up. That takes a while to do.

In fact, it usually takes a bench rest to break the nuts on it with a tool. So he's going to take time to do what, break that down and put in a backpack and then climb off the building and then reassemble in the woods. none of that makes any sense. None of that makes any sense. And so I'm of the theory that, and so is John, this, the kid was just, again, a patsy

because he was probably already selected a while ago because there's something I didn't know. This was John explained to me. I guess you can Google it. I looked it up finally. They have what's called information reduction teams, right? In the Pentagon, there's like 60,000 of these people and their job is to create, is to analyze certain areas and create potential scenarios and or patsies.

And so in this case, they go, you know what, we've got to kill Charlie Kirk at this place. You know, let's find a patsy, a guy that would fit this profile that we could do, and they do it. It's called information reduction teams. I didn't know that was such a thing. But apparently there's you can Google that one too. Information reduction teams. Yeah. And apparently there's an alarmity of these things, like 60,000 of them.

I didn't hear about it until John brought it up to me. You got that right there? Recent Pentagon efforts under the Department of War to cut staff and bureaucracy, notably slashing the Defense Technical Information Center workforce by 80%. In August 2025, to refocus on core data management and save money alongside streamlining cybersecurity training and reorganizing innovation offices for mission focus. It's just a staffing. It's just about staff.

Interesting. Yeah. I don't know. So it says it's about staffing stuff. I think that's just a cover. But again, I'm not the expert on that one. Well, I mean, the most obvious thing is like that gun, if it was a 30-0-06, would not have, it would have done way more damage than that.

And also, I heard people say that if there was a sniper, like a trained sniper, that was going to do something like this, they wouldn't aim for the nasty. Or would they? Well, just because they aim doesn't mean to hit what the... True. Am that right? So maybe it was intended to be a headshot, pulled a little low into the right. There's so many variables.

There's also another theory floating around that it was a, the microphone was an explosive. No, that's not. That's been debunked. And do you know at all if there was, if he was wearing body armor? There are some people that say he was wearing a plate? No, you would see it. His shirt was too tight. You would see, if he was wearing any kind of a vest, you would see.

There was footage of him right before that where he's walking around and you can literally see his nipples poking through a shirt. Yeah, he wasn't wearing a vest. It's, yeah, it would be pretty obvious. Yeah, a lot of weirdness on that one, but... Who do you think was behind it? Again, there's all these theories, but I think, again, honestly, I think somebody in the Jewish state took him out. Because apparently there was a little rift before then, a couple weeks earlier. Yeah.

And he decided he's not going to... to do that. He's not going to oblige these people that want him. They want to give him some ridiculous amount of money too, like 25 million for something. And he pushed back, right? Sticking. Yeah, they wanted to. Right. Yeah. So look, it's always, man, like this thing with MBS, right? You know, the Butler's shooting. I mean, we can go on and on, right? All these, a lot of these conspiracy theories are starting to be true, you know. And it doesn't help when the government just doesn't come forth with the truth. Like they conceal and hide the information,

which enables all these conspiracy theories to just explode. Absolutely. And when it's, when we have real evidence, like the Butler Creek thing, and we have real evidence in Las Vegas, and they're still not talking about it.

You're just kind of dismissing it, right? Did you find, Steve, the Congress testimony of the Secret Service saying that we know there was two shooters? Well, I'll show you what I did find. So I found his testimony. Not him. I'm talking about whatever the Secret Service said in front of Congress.

No. Yeah. There was no. And I looked and looked and looked and looked and I couldn't find anything. Instead, I keep finding like this second shooter conspiracy. It's just that's all it is. Yeah. Interesting.

I couldn't find it. Yeah. John, like I said, John Coleman, man, he'd be a great guy to have on the show. if I can never find him, man. He is not like him, so that's why I'm a little concerned. Something's happened. How'd you meet this dude? I actually met him through another guy.

I don't know if you know Tommy Kerrigan from Tommy's podcast. No. Okay, well, Tommy has a lot of guys on, man. He's got some big names. And he said, dude, you really need to be on the show with this guy. So I got to know John. And we did, I don't know, how many shows. We've done six or seven together.

We were getting ready to do one on 9-11 and also on UAPs, extraterrestrial. Yeah, he's got a lot of knowledge on that one too. I have probably more on 9-11 than he does. But, you know, that's another one, right? It's an inside job, you know, the government debt it. You know, I'm like, yeah, there's so many 9-11 conspiracies. It's just like, yeah, that's, I'll tell you this, 9-11 airplanes did do it. Bad guys in airplanes did it. Now, did somebody else enable that. Now I'm starting to have second thoughts. I used to think, not bullshit. But now I'm starting to wonder a little bit. But I can answer just about everything like, you know, building seven and why did it collapse, blah, blah, blah. There's actually an explanation for

everything, you know, when people talk about things like, you know, there was a thermite. You know, we found thermite on the ground because they burnt. No. Do you ever think that? Maybe there's thermite in the ground because when they first build the buildings, you know, the arcwellers are still like, yeah, you're going to get thermite and residue on the ground. Of course, you're going to get all that, right? That's what that came from. It's not because they used thermite to blow the buildings up. It's impossible. I'll tell you that right now. It's impossible to blow up a building with one shot. When I say one shot, one explosive, right? Instead of explosive. Because you got to break the concrete first. Then you got to attack it again and break all the rebar and all the iron in it. Right. That's two shots. Right. There's no room. There's no time to go in and set charges again. And it would take months, maybe years to build that, put that whole thing together under the nose of everybody. That didn't happen. It is weird. There's all that footage, those interview footage of on the ground.

that day of all the firefighters saying that they heard explosions in the basement. Well, that's from, yeah, that's not from explosion because it didn't collapse from the basement. It collapsed from the top up. Right. So if it blew up in the basement, the whole thing would just crumble. So that wasn't, I don't think that was explosion so much as it was probably like metal and things like that. Right.

Being overtorked, you know, and crack and ripping and popping and snapping and cables and things like that. But I can tell you right now that, with my knowledge on explosives, it was just quite extensive. see you cannot. You can go in and place all the charges you want. You hit all the key pillars, right? You've got to drill holes, big holes. You've got to stem it, fill it up, you know.

You've got to run wire. How are you going to hide the wire? If you do it with remote control, then you get the problem with an errant signal setting off your charges before you want it to go off, right? So it's got to be something. It's got to be, usually it's going to be some type of manual control with firing wire or something like that,

non-electric systems, right? So you got to control and hide all that. that wire, he needs a lot. It's a lot of stuff you've got to rig up. Then you've got to paint it all up, clean it back up so the average observer doesn't realize something's off. Well, there was a couple floors

in the World Trade Center towers and at least one of the towers that we know that was under construction for months before that. And that was like the floor was like cordoned off. Yeah. And people were saying they heard jack hammers and shit going on up there.

Yeah, but see, even it, let's just say all that was true. Let's just say that, okay, they were gonna put explosives. Here's the problem, right? If you understand how explosives work and you put explosives, for example, on the concrete pillars themselves, all right? You can shatter the concrete. You can crush it, pulverize it, breaks.

But almost all concrete is reinforced with what? Steele. Steele. Right. That's not going to break. All right. That takes a separate attack. And it's right.

If you're going to use, if you're going to use something thermal, that's going to take a long time, like a cutting system. That takes a long time. right, for it to cut through everything and weaken it. And you have to use multiple systems at one time. That's not going to work. If you're going to use explosives, and there's certain explosives you could use to cut steel, but it's not practical.

For example, one that you could use, you could use, for example, C4 to some degree, but it takes a lot, but things like Jetax. There's different systems, but even that takes a well to set up. It's just impossible. There's no way to happen. What I think may have happened though is they did fly airplanes in there.

But my question is, how do they do all this stuff under the nose of the federal government, all these people? How do they get away with it? Who coordinated that? Right? And there's supposedly Mossad was on site in a van cheering and watching. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of weird stuff that's going on here, right?

And why did all those government people sell all their American airline stocks a week before? Right. So that's the part, I agree, is a little suspicious. the actual attack itself was done with the airplanes, not explosives. Right. Clearly, right. But it was definitely something's off on this. It was a hologram.

Yeah. And so it's the same thing with Las Vegas. Same thing with Charlie Kirk. Same thing with Butler. It seems like everybody's just dismissing it. And it's like, okay, case closed. Let's move on the next thing. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

You know? And why? Why are we doing this? What do you think about the conspiracy theory that Osama bin Laden is still alive? And they never really got them. I've heard that one so much lately. I think they got them. What's the point keeping them alive?

There's no value to that. No one's value. Right. You can't leverage that. Right. You're just feeding this fucking guy in a cellar for what? What was the story that they threw him off the ship or something? Yeah.

Yeah. For like a proper Muslim barrier. Well, you have to. So according to Islam, right, when a Muslim dies, you have to bury him within 24 hours, right? That's like, you've got to do it. And so that was probably their deal. It's like, well, we're not going to bury it. Don't they have to bring the guy back for like analysis, like DNA to get some like confirmation that it was him?

Was there, do you know about any of this? No, no. I would imagine they would do that. Maybe they took the samples already. But maybe. But I think the reason they dumped them in the ocean is because they didn't want anybody to go worship the guy after that, right? If they knew he had a grave. So I think that was probably the reason they did it.

But I'm pretty sure he's dead. There's no value in keeping him around. But. Right. Yeah, I don't. Yeah. Yeah. But is a world a better place without him? Probably. But is it really making a difference? Not really. It just costs a lot of lives. To get one dude. And then we didn't stop. You know, well, we've got the dude, but we're just going to keep risking lives, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Strange times we live in. And yeah, the future of warfare. Seems like it's going to be spooky. And it's going to keep getting spookier. Yeah. Now with drones. I'm watching some of this footage in Ukraine, Russia. I'm like, Jesus. man, no escape. You know, I had a guy that was coaching. So I do a lot of performance coaching. And this guy was actually from the Legion, but he was Irish. And he was like, you know, because I'm trying to figure out what I want to do. And finally one day he made the decision he's going to go to Ukraine, right?

Be a soldier. I said, okay. So he's not even there 30 days. And he comes back. I go, what happened? He goes, man, he goes, let me tell you, goes the first day I went out with 125 infantrymen. He goes, five of us came back. Everybody else died from drone attacks.

Oh, my God. I was like, what? Yeah, he said it was nuts. He would have said it was nuts. And the thing was, you would never even know you're in a war zone until you're out on the front line somewhere. Everybody else was acting normal, you know? And he said, but you'd go out and then you experience something like this.

More than once, he goes, there's no way I'll survive this. The money's not worth it. And he left within 30 days, you know? Good God. It's something you don't even hear anything about that war anymore in the news. They don't even talk about it anymore. I mean, there's a lot of drone footage on Google. It's kind of weird.

They're just putting it out there. People getting shot up and blown up. Not even censored anymore. And I'm watching this stuff with the drones, especially. And the problem with the drones now, they've gotten so good that, well, one, they're using, you know, they're using, what do you call it, fiber optic cables to fly them now so they don't jam them. So they can't jam them, yeah. But even now, they've got drones that you can load with AI, and they're autonomous.

Right. And they just go to work. Right. And they know what to look for. They kill it. You know, that's just, and well, even the U.S. Army now is issuing drones, personal drones, all the soldiers. That's the way of the future.

Every soldier will go to the field with his own personal drone. Yeah. You know what's really going to be cool? We were talking about this earlier on with AI and, you know, the advancement of robots. One day, every soldier will have his own personal. robot with them. I guarantee you that. Think about that for a minute. You see how you see how acry robots are now? Yeah. They're so precise. You know, thinking, processing. Can you imagine? And even even, you know, I must said that he thinks in what, four years, four years,

maybe a little bit longer, robots will outnumber humans. And he said they'll be affordable, like how much, $20,000? Sure. Right. And can you imagine a world where you have robots and you take one with you into combat? You know, hey, carry my shit. Hey, load my weapon. Give me a drink, you know. And he's doing it all the work for you. And even us, right? We'll be sitting here one day and you'll have your robot. I'll have mine and he'll have his. And we get an argument and let our robots fight it out. We had this gentleman on a couple months back who was a scientist or a psychologist who worked for DARPA. and he was in charge of like the research and development stuff of all the new technology they were doing. And he was saying that they have helmets that they can, people on the battlefield can bring it with them and say like somebody gets blown up or whatever.

They can put this helmet on and a surgeon sitting in Washington, D.C. can also put their helmet on and he can like do all the work through this, like hijacked this guy's body to where now the guy on the other side of the world can be the surgeon because he's like hijacking his brain and doing the work for him. You know what? They've been working on that for a while.

So look up the gateway process or gateway project from the CIA. It's actually been declassified. It's about a 20 page. I've read it. Oh, you had it, right? So they talk about, well, actually there's...

Astral projection type shit. Well, that and also, I'm not sure if it was in this particular document, but they've done experience are already. So, for example, maybe I'm on a computer on one side of the world. You're on a computer on the other side of the world. We hook up some, you know, some wires in my fingers and my body and some of yours. And I can actually manipulate you on the other side of the planet by my movements and the computers and stuff like that. Right. So they're already there. So that would

make a lot of sense that they could do it surgery with a surgeon. That's why I said if you live another five years, you can easily live to be 150. And who knows if you're around from another 20 years, maybe you can live forever. Yeah. Because of this type of technology. See, it's not, they keep saying artificial intelligence, but I don't believe it's artificial. It's just intelligence. It's all it is, you know.

And what we have done, like I said, we've engineered our own extinction. Remember when the movie, you know, with the Terminator came out and the Matrix? I all seem like some futuristic mumbo-jumbo. But here we are. We're living it. Skynet, right? Freaking drones. Yeah.

You know? All this stuff. were there, you know, and how does this thing end? That's, right. That's what I want to hang around for. I want to see how it ends. So give me my 150 years or whatever I, you know, I'm allocated in my, in my monthly, you know, living allowance. I want to see what happens next. Yeah, I'm waiting for the aliens to land. They already did, man. They did a long time ago, you know, I'm convinced that, no doubt in my mind. You know, there seems to be enough evidence. Have you seen the boogabal? Yeah. Right? That's crazy.

That's insane. Is that the one that the missile hit it? And then it came back and then... No, it's the one that's from Columbia. Yeah, Columbia, right? South America. They found it. Oh, I'm not...

It's called the Bugisphir. And it was back in March, they recovered it. So it's flying. They got video flying. It hits a power line. There it is right there. And, uh... What?

Yeah, there is, Boogosphere. Anyways, they've been, they've been, they've been... Yeah, they've been testing it and, uh... That's actually it right there? Yeah. So when they found it, it weighed, I think, eight pounds. And in the course of a couple months, all of a sudden, it weighed 24 pounds. And I'm like, what happened there?

It's not eating nothing. Whoa. So what are they saying this is? Well, so they don't know what it is. They finally were able to not really decipher the hieroglyphics that are on it, but they think it's Sanskrit, which goes way back. It's some type of symbology, but they don't, they haven't been. able to interpret it yet. But this is fake. This is not real. It is. There's the AI

scratches all over that. Yeah, that one's fake. Yeah. No, the real one because you know, there's find, can you find the real one? It's not you're not going to find it on YouTube, bro. You're going to have to like, oh wait, is this a video on it? That's a video. That's the video right there. That's the video right there. That's a CGI. Are you sure? Oh yeah. There's one out there with them actually flying where it hits the power lines. That sucks. This is CG. So you can find the real one. But you know Dr. Greer is? Yeah.

Yeah, he's all over this thing. In fact, he's gone down and looked at it. There's quite a few people who are looking at it and examining it. They haven't been able to figure out what it is or how it even flies. They just know it gained weight on its own. I don't know, man. I'm going to keep looking. Maybe this.

Metallic sphere. That's wild. Columbia. That looks real. Yeah, I think most of this stuff is probably secret technology the Pentagon's put doing. Or the Pentagon or like aerospace contractors. Like, especially the stuff, those fighter jets. pilots we're seeing.

Yeah. Because those phytoc jet pilots, they aren't, you know, they're pretty psychologically sound dudes. Those guys and the guys who are like running the nuclear sites who claim to have those things that were hovering above their, the nook sites, like Randall Shimp or not Randall Shemp, well, Randall Shum is one of them in the UK, but, um, the one in like the Midwest. Yeah. And, uh, you know, saying that these big fucking objects, these big glowing objects were coming

down, like landing and like shutting down all the nukes. or like in Russia, arming them and then turning them off. Like, yeah. These guys aren't, these guys aren't crazy people. No. And, you know, I listen to Dr. Greer quite a bit as well on some of this stuff. But he thinks we've had this technology for about 80 years. We've actually reversed tech, reverse engineered some of this technology and are using it.

Some of it's real. Some of it's man-made. But my thing is, why not? Right. So, you know, are we that? I don't know, man. Are we that damn arrogant that we think we're the only people living in this universe? You know, how big this universe is?

Right. Holy smokes, man. I mean, seven trillion plus galaxies that we know of, surely there's other life out there. And then when we talk about different dimensions, you know, now science, physics come back saying the eye. There's at least 11 different dimensions. Some people can travel through them.

When we dream at night, maybe that's what we're doing, is we're traveling through another dimension for a moment. you know we talk about the kashik records the ananaki um the book of enoch you know it talks about a lot of this stuff but it's been left out of the can it doesn't it doesn't meet the narrative yeah i think i think there is alien life and i think it's on this planet um what it's it's going to do with us i don't know um maybe he doesn't want to do anything except maybe keep us from destroying ourselves i don't know. Right. You know? I had this guy James Fox on the show a couple days ago, and he's a lifelong UFO investigator and makes documentaries about this stuff. And he was recently in New York at a movie premiere

for that new documentary that came out, Age of Disclosure, where they interviewed all those high-level military people and government folks talking about these declassified programs and the skiffs and all these recovered crashed recovered vehicles. And he walked up to, he was having a conversation at the bar with this top guy at the DIA. And he was asking him, he's like, you know, he said, how many people like have the big picture of what's really going on?

And he was like, maybe like 10 people, 10 people worldwide, really have the big picture. He was like, whoa, he's like, well, what about you? How many people know as much as you know? And this guy from the DIA is like, maybe 30. he's like holy shit he was like um what do you make of the like the reports that have come out that said like there's something scary or something spooky about the reality of this stuff he's like i i could see how it could be scary how it could be threatening he's like what about it

is scary what about what about it scares you and he goes they're intent he's like they're intent What the fuck does that mean? It don't sound good, does it? No. Who knows, man? I mean, yeah. I mean, like there's biblical stories that line up with some of the modern events. Like, like even the ones in the 90s of like that being in Virginia Brazil.

You know, that that small being with the big head, the red eyes and the cloven feet and smelled like sulfur. That almost matches biblical accounts of demons perfectly. So like maybe these ancient people were seeing these things. It sounds like, I mean, you know, I mentioned the book of Enoch a minute ago. I don't know if you're familiar with that, but it was one of the books that was left out of the canon. Right. Intentionally. In fact, the only canon still has it is the Ethiopian Bibles.

Yeah. Right. They're the only ones. But now they've been able to find more copies of it. But the book of Enoch talks about alien life, talks about. about the archangels. It talks about the Nephilim, the giants. It talks about a lot of stuff that just doesn't seem to fit the narrative, right? And the narrative of the Bible, remember, was written by men. Several hundred years after death of Jesus Christ. Right. Now, look, I can't

remember we just talked about two hours ago, verbatim. I really don't. So how to hell am I going to know what somebody else said 600 years ago and put it in a book? Yeah. Yeah, that's what you have to remember like Luke, John, Mark, these were dudes, human beings on this earth that were sitting down writing shit. Yeah. Right. And like some of the stuff they were writing seems just like so spectacular. Right. And so out there, you know? Yeah. Like you can either take it for what it's worth that this was this dude. I mean, writing about things like the invisible becoming visible and like gods and angels and unexplainable phenomena. Yeah.

Yeah. There's so much in there in the Bible particularly that is contradictory. Of course. And I know a lot of people will lose your shit, you know, if you start talking about it because people will die to defend that, you know, their movie systems, you know. And but, you know, I'm constantly looking and analyzing and questioning stuff, you know. And there's some dark stuff. in the Bible, the Old Testament and the New Testament.

You know, and it's right up there on par with the stuff you read in the Koran and other, you know, and other religious documents. But the part I find interesting is who, why do they leave out certain books? Actually, it was quite a few books, not just the book of Enoch. Yeah, a lot. There was quite a few. They left out, right? Because it just didn't sync up with the main narrative.

So, you know, when it comes to religion, it's a man-made doctrine, dogma. Yeah, it seems to be very focused on, from what I've read of it. It seems to be very centered around control, building a control system. Absolutely, absolutely. And so that's why I kind of dismiss it. I believe in a higher power. You know, the Bible says one thing that's interesting is, and I think a lot of people miss this part, it says, heaven and hell is within you.

It's not like you go somewhere. There's a heaven and you go somewhere there's a hell. It's within you. I've always known that. I've always questioned it even when I was younger. I was like, I think heaven and hell is within us because there's no, where do you go? Right. To be a part of that.

And I think it's just part of our conscious. But sometimes the Bible is actually pretty accurate, but it's, but they didn't do a very good job explaining, you know, like, for example, you know, when they talk about the archangels, 200 angels came down from heaven. Okay. And these angels did what? Well, they were supposed to help humans. but then they fell in love with more women and they started having sex with them. These turned to be in giants.

And then Noah said, screw that, we're going to drown everybody, you know, if we're getting to wipe you all out and start all over to a reset, you know? To your point, some of these stories sound really fantastic. I listened to,

what was I to say, Neil deGrasso-Tyson, remember? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't particularly care about his politics. Sometimes I wish you just leave it out, but from the astrophysics side, it's finding very interesting. And he's made a good point one time, and it really made me think.

So I believe it was, don't quote me on the date, I believe it was around 1755 in Lisbon, Portugal. There was a big earthquake and churches collapsed with all the, you know, everybody was in it. Women and Children and men, they all died. The earthquake happened, and then a little while later, a tsunami came in and literally wiped out the entire city of Lisbon, right? Killed everybody in it. And his question, the question he posed was, if there's a God, either he's not all-knowing or he's not all-powerful or both. Because if he was all-knowing, why would he let all these women and children die in a church

praying to him, right? Why did he stop it if he's powerful? And the same thing with the tsunami. Why did he allow that? Or why did he, if he's powerful, why did he stop it? If he didn't know it was coming, then he's not all-knowing. Right? So it was like, made me think like, damn, man, he nailed it.

It's like, if you're all powerful, all knowing, all omnipresent everywhere, then how's that slip by it? Do you, if you're, are you really that good that you would let all these people die? Right. And then, and then here's how they feel it. It's kind of like what I think they call the God gap, you know, well, God works in mysterious ways. Yeah. Well, if he works in mysterious ways, then how, why should I believe anything?

Right. Right. Why should I believe anything? If it's all mystery, if it's a mystery. Yeah. So put your. telling me to put my faith into this person, right? Sure.

Yeah, I think it just goes to, you know, giving people meaning and performing and giving some sort of a structure to society. Because I think most believers, I think 90% of people that are Christians and they go to church, they probably don't read the Bible. Yeah.

Right? They just kind of like, you go to church and then the preacher kind of like picks and chooses what things to communicate to you. And I'm sure it makes those people better in their lives. I'm sure it makes them happier, feel some sort of gap in their lives, build some sort of community.

So I think there's a lot of positives that people can get from that kind of stuff. And it's just like once you really dig into it, like get your boots on the ground of like some of like the hardcore texts that I've been missing, even that are in there. And look at some of the stuff. It's just like it's a whole other world of like crazy shit that was happening back in antiquity that we're never going to be able to reconcile. Yeah. Like, you know, enslavement was okay. Raping a girl was okay. as long as you know weird stuff right it's like weird stuff um but you're you're right it gives

somewhat it's control some people want to control and this why it was actually politicians religious leaders that got together and decided what goes into the bible yes can it right council nicaa right so they did that um now i think if you follow science science renders a better explanation for a higher power right so divine consciousness called what whatever you want, universal intelligence. But I think in a lot of ways, when people are speaking religion, they're also speaking science,

you're just using a different vernacular, different language. You know, for example, when we talk about the Holy Spirit, right, I was Catholic, was growing up, talked about the Holy Spirit, you know, and you have, you know, the dear departed, you know, lovely John

is here with us in spirit. Why do we say that? Because we all intuitively know everything's energy, frequency, and vibration, right? So in science, spirit is actually frequency, vibration, energy.

that's all that is right so the soul the spirit we're talking the same thing um and so i prefer to use different language to describe my belief in a higher power like divine consciousness universal intelligence i believe we are all part of a collective consciousness you know that goes all the way back to carlojung in 1903 yeah he said we're all part of a collective consciousness right i believe that i really do believe that and i also believe that we are not really who we are as much as we are consciousness experiencing the human condition, right? So almost like a simulation. I know that sounds really crazy. And for maybe for the, you know, the intellectually impaired and small-minded people, that's a hard one to get their head around.

But when you start doing the work and start looking at it, start thinking about it's like, that could be very possible. Yeah. It explains a lot of things. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, give you a good example is, you know, how we're all collective consciousness, right? So For example, my wife who's sitting out there right now, she and I think a lot about the same thing, which is out of the blue, right? I could be driving down the road drinking, you know, thinking, man, I sure like to stop at Taco Bell and get a bean burrito. And also, my wife's like, hey, let's go start Taco Bell. They love Taco Bell.

My wife and son are Indonesian, they love Taco Bell. I turn them into Mexicans, I think. But yeah, let's go Taco Bell. I'm like, how did you know? I was thinking about that, right? But we do it all the time. And it's because it's what's called entrainment, right? So we start getting on the same frequencies.

Yeah. The more we know people around the certain people, the same people, we start to think alike. And we start anticipating other people's reactions and actions and things like that, you know. I give you a crazy story just to kind of drive this point home real quick is I was in a helicopter crash back in Mother's Day in 1990, May of 1990. Dary in Providence in Panama was in the unit, went down to Black Hawk, lost the number one engine at 206 feet. triple canopy jungle. First thing the positive was kill the fuel. We hit a tree, snapped the rotor blades off to the hubs,

and we turned it to a giant lawn dart flying through the jungle. No lift, right? And I remember, you know, processing all this is it was happening, which was like super fast, right? But it did seem like a slow down. And then the impact was just brutal, man. I ended up with a broken back. I was in a body cast for like five months.

And it was a bad crash. fortunately everybody survived except for one guy he almost passed on they resuscitated him about four or five times he shattered his pelvis and was bleeding out but uh anyways so all this happens right big deal um i end up in gorgas army hospital then i end up at fort sam houston then i finally end up at brag wombeck army hospital i'm in a body cast i've got convalescent leave i go home um to go see my mom because i got nothing else to do i'm in a body cast and um i'm sitting in the living room with my mom and dad, talking about the event. And after I get done, my mom's like, you know, son,

I was in a hospital too not too long ago. Now, that's surprised me because my mom is never sick. My mom is never in the hospital. My mom doesn't do any drugs, medicine, nothing. She's, and now she's 82 years old, right? She's, you know, hardcore German, she just got that hardcore German blood in her, man. And I'm like, what, mom?

What happened? And she goes, well, she goes, one day I was, so she worked at Montgomery Awards when Montgomery Awards was still open in the furniture department for like 20 years, right? That was her thing. And she goes, yeah, I was just walking down the aisle, furniture department. And all of a sudden I got really lightheaded

and just fell out and I woke up in the hospital. And she goes, next thing you know, the doctor says, man, we don't know why you passed out. All your tests are good. Nothing's wrong with you. You're free to leave, right? And I go, really? I said, where's your medical report?

She pulls out, looks, it gives it to me. Now, I crashed on Mother's Day, May in 1990 at 3.30 p.m. Central Standard Time, okay? My mother passed out at 1330 hours Pacific standard time on the same day, same time. No way. Exact same time. And I said, tell me what you felt, mom. She goes, I just felt overwhelmed like this rush, you know.

She said, I can't even explain it. Just then the lights went out. I woke up in the hospital. And you haven't been sick then. She says then. She goes, no. And so that was my first account, right? So now fast forward.

My dad had a heart attack. Didn't kill him. and he's good to go. And several years later, I'm in Lisbon, Portugal, walking around. I was there with my special forces team. We were doing what's called Live Environment Training. We basically immersed herself. We lived in a society.

We lived with Portuguese families. We learned a language, went to school every day. It was a good time, right? And on Sundays, I made it a point for my team to link up downtown, Lisbon. We picked a coffee shop or something. And we just did a team poop meeting, right? So I had stuff to put out because I'm still communicate with the rear. and still Army guys, right?

So I'm walking around in Lisbon all day. I get up early in the morning, Sunday, I got nothing to do. I'm window shopping and walking around. And I kept thinking about my father in the time he had that heart attack. It just kept popping in my head. No matter how hard I try to keep it out of my head,

it kept popping in my head, you know, and I focus, Comstock, there's a hot chick, you know. Look at out over there, you know, and boom, my dad pops up again. And by 1700 that afternoon, I met my team at the coffee shop, was outside, we're sitting there and oriented. And then my captain shows up, Nick, and he's like,

hey, starting to come talk. Do you talk to your wife? I go, no. He goes, your wife's been trying to call you. You need to call your wife. He said, no shit. So back then we didn't have cell phones. We had pay for AT&T calling cards, right?

So I go to a pay phone, call my wife. She answered. I go, hey, what's going on? She goes, okay, don't panic. Everything's okay, but your dad had another heart attack. I said, how did I know that? I've been walking around all day thinking about this, all day long. Sure enough, he had another heart attack.

It didn't kill him, right? And I've had this happen so many times, right? And why did I know that? Because biologically, I'm closer to my mom and dad. This entrainment I was talking about, this frequency, right? It is a thing. Some people call it ESP. Call it whatever you want.

It is a six cents. Yeah. And we all have it. We know it. You know, we have, you know, the regular sense is the five cents. Then we have, actually we have more than six senses. The sixth sense is this intuition, this knowing, I don't know where it's coming from, but I know something because it is actually frequency because we are tied into the quantum field

through the pineal gland. And then there's the other one that's called the etheric, right? So it extends out anywhere from six to 45 feet, five, 45 feet around us. And it's that, it's that field of energy around us so that when somebody walks up behind you to creep up on you and looking over your shoulder, you're like, how do I know you were there? Right? Because they break the polarity in your field, right? So we are a walking, talking sensory system.

Sure. And we have the ability, I think, to know things, even from a distance from afar. I mean, how many times have you woken up in the morning? I just had this sense before boating for no reason. Like something's just off. Yeah. And then later on that day, something shitty really happens. Go, there it is.

But that happened after the fact. But I had the sense before boating along the morning. That goes back to the notion of time. This time really exists. And the theory is right now, no, Albert and Ice side never believe time existed, right? In fact, you can reverse time before time. Time is just a thing, right? So, and now I think some studies just came out a couple of days ago where, you know,

we talk about cause and effect. Now sometimes you get it affecting to get cause, right? It's just, so the whole world of physics is like, you know, being upended right now because we start to learn things, right? Especially through AI. And so the world is probably not what we really think. it is. Um, but, um, so in that, there's some hope there for me, right? It should be for everybody else. So I believe we never die and we will never die. And here's why, right? So laws of thermodynamics, right?

Energy cannot be created nor destroy it can only be transferred. Okay. So when you die, your simple carbon base matter, right, falls down, turns into worm food, but what happens to the energy from within that was in there? Where's it going? Where did it go? Right? be destroyed where is it it goes back into what the quantum field back into the ether i believe that's the case i believe we lives on and i believe wholeheartedly now that we will always live maybe not in body but in spirit right here we go again spirit in mind i think we will always live because we are part of this collective consciousness i had a guy who was trained in um kind of a sad story but it was actually two guys one of them was a 28 year old jewish millionaire right good look at

guy, good smart guy, just a good dude, right? And his father wanted me to train him for almost two months on life skills, defensive skills, right? He said he's really smart, he's a good boy, he's got a lot of money, but he can't fight his way out of a paper bag, you know, he doesn't have the street smart. And so he asked me if I would train him. And then I had another guy came along, right, for this, he's a 20-year-old priest. And he wants to be a green beret. I go, that's funny, right so i got both these guys in my in my in my course for two months and um so i put them both up together in a Airbnb i said you guys just got to get along you know put all your religious bullshit to the side just get along right and so it's teamwork and uh but anyways had a really good time

training these guys for a couple months and then um they went apart and i kept up with them and then robert the jewish kid i lost contact with him for like almost a year and i'm man we're He's not answering immunos. So I call his dad up. Dad was a great guy. And over the phone, he explained to me that Robert was dead. I'm like, what? And this was the same time there was the, you know, the whole thing in Israel happened

with the, you know, Hamas and it was October 7th. Oh, that was around then? Yeah, right. And he didn't want to tell me what happened. But he goes, you know, you know, Robert. He's always trying to help the little guy, you know. And I'm thinking, man, don't tell me. He went over there and just thought he was a badass, you know, or something

happened. He's in Miami, you know. He said, I really don't want to talk about it right now. He goes, but next time you come to town, he goes, I'd like to sit down with you and my wife and we'll talk about it, right? Yeah. So actually it was last year, because I was on your show last year, right? At this time, yeah, that's when I actually met him. So I went down at Miami, I said, hey, I'm in town with my daughter. I'm getting ready to leave, but I'd love to meet you guys. And we did. We had dinner. And a really nice couple, man. They were from, where are they from Belarus? Very strong, like Russian accent to him. Pro Trump. man, hardcore Trump lovers, just really good people.

And sit across the table from me, we chit-chatted for a while. And finally I looked at him. I said, listen, I said, before I drive away today, I said, I really need to know what happened with Robert. I said, this is just going to drive me crazy. So dad was like, okay, well, his dad was a medical doctor. And they were very wealthy. He's like, listen, he goes, my wife and I went to Paris. Robert stayed home while we were gone.

And when we came back, we found him dead on the. kitchen floor. And what happened was he had gone out. Let this be a cautionary note for everybody listening out there. So he went and bought quail eggs, right? And I guess he thought he was Johnny Rambo and thought it was okay just to eat raw quail eggs, right? And he bought him in the cart and just like chicken eggs. And he was cracking him and eating it, right? He was a health nut and health enthusiast, you know, now that he's had a little special Rambo training. He wanted to live the part, I guess, but it turns out. So the dad was like, what is going on here? What happened to him? And so his father did the work, looked into it. And it turns out that quails in the United States,

some quails, depending on the region they live in, can eat, what is that, nightshade. It's a nightshade. It's one of the most poisonous plants we have in America, right? It's from the nightshade. And they can eat the seeds and it doesn't affect them. Right. So apparently he got quail eggs that had all this toxin there from this nightshade, right? He just got the bad batch. And that's what he ate. And what it does is it shut your kidneys down within hours. Everything you just starts shutting down.

And he probably goes, man, I feel like crap. Maybe they got the flu, you know, and it went down the kitchen floor and I was all over just like that. Chewels. Quill eggs, right? So, you know, boil your eggs, cook your eggs, right? I don't even know that would have helped. But I didn't even know that either. That's fucking nuts, dude.

Yeah, I didn't know that either. I didn't even know that was possible, right? So I see it happened a lot in Indonesia. They eat a lot of quail eggs too, but I don't think they have a problem with nightshade. No. I forget which one it was, which nightshade it was, but I have to look it up. But it's like the deadliest one they have here in the U.S. Wow.

You know, but anyways, I remember sitting at the table where I was going with the story was, I was telling them, you know, what we did with Robert, the training, you know, Robert Rondon be waterboarded and all this stuff, you know. And she's like, did he really ask for that? I go, yeah, he asked for that. And so we kind of gave him, no pun intended, a watered down version of the waterboarding, right? That didn't last very long. But he wanted to experience. I said, well, you're paying, I guess, you know, we're playing.

And I told my assistant, I said, we've got to make sure we don't hurt him, right? So we'll give him the experience without the real experience. But anyways, so they were just like enamored by all the stories I'm telling them about their son or listen intently. And then it was all over. It's like there was pregnant paws. And mom was like, she goes,

do you think I'll ever see my son again? I was like, man, that's a tough question, right? And I got my 16-year-old daughter with me. And, but I had the answer. I had the answer. And I looked at her. I go, yes, you will. I said, we're all going to see Robert again.

And you can see their eyes lighting up. See, they haven't had closure yet. That's what I realized at the table. There was no closure yet, right? I said, yeah, we're all going to see them. And I told them, I explained to him why. I said, because I said, we all are frequency, energy, spirit, soul, whatever you want to call it. We exist.

We will continue to live on. I said, you're a medical doctor. I said, this should resonate with you from a scientific perspective of it as all as well. Because I gave an example of my wife. You met my wife now. Many years ago, we were laying in bed watching, what was that thing, ghost, you know, with Demi Moore and Patrick Swayzee. Remember he gets killed? I think I've seen this.

Oh yeah, he gets, so somebody murders him, right, in the alleyway, rob him, kill him, right? But he comes back as a ghost, right? And she can, she can sense them, but she can't see him. He can sense everything, right? And he's trying to talk to her. And she's like, that's odd, that's weird, right? And I remember when we're laying there, my wife's like, do you think we'll ever see each other again when we die? Right? And I looked at her, I go, yes, we will. I said, we will see each other again. Don't you worry about that. Wow. And she goes, you know what? My wife is so innocent, man. innocent, right? She's like, well, she goes, promise me that when you see me out there, you say hello, okay? And she was serious. Like, and I almost started crying when she said that

because it was so innocent and so sincere, you know, like we're going to be floating around in space and hey, hey, I know you. We were married. That was kind of, you know, and it just crushed my heart when she said that. Like, when you're so innocent, it's so naive, you know, and there's things you just don't know, you know. And, and I told that to, you know, you know, and I told that to, you know, Robert's mom in that story, you know, and I said, you know what, we will, we will see each other again. Not like this, but we will, our energies will interact and we'll always. So for me, that's kind of on a personal level is very comforting because I know that like right now, my father's up there listening to me. He's watching me. Everybody I've ever lost in my life is still out there.

And one day we will meet again. And it's not. as simple as we're just going to go back into the earth and, you know, turning the dust. It's more complex than that. And science is starting to prove it, you know, with the whole metaphysics and quantum physics, you know, and the stuff we're starting to learn today. And just the things I've personally experienced, I mean, creating your reality. I do it all the time. I think we may have talked about it last time, but I manifest a life that, you know, just by my thoughts alone. and, you know, I literally create money. I create opportunities.

I create happiness. I create sadness, just the function of how I think and not what I think. Most people don't know how to do that. And, you know, if you know, and school won't teach you how to do it, right? So if you think about it, school has never prepared you for adult life. It's never prepared you to be successful. It's taught you, it trained you to be a slave to society. It's taught you how to stand in the line, raise your hand,

moving the bell rings, right? How much shit have you learned in school, high school, in elementary school that really matters today? Like nothing. Like, what did you guys, why did I learn all this stuff about algebra and geometry when all I need to know is one plus one and math, you know, basic math to count my money, right? I'm not a physicist, but you learn so much bullshit.

And it was done, again, it goes back to Rockefeller, right, with the general education system. You know, he created this system that we all live in. and we've become slaves to it. I've decided to think way outside the box and look at what's really possible. And I've learned, as my wife has, that, you know, you're your only limitation.

You're your only limitation. What you think is what's going to make, you're going to become what you think, right? So, and I tell people you can become what you think, but how you think. And so. Totally, man. You know, if you think differently,

and this is the problem with the whole world we live in, everybody's so linear in their mindset. They're so caught up in all the drama that doesn't even matter. They're so focused on what Trump is doing, what the Democrat are doing, what they're doing, that nobody's focusing on themselves going, how do I survive, not just survive, but thrive, and be a better version of myself. And you can because you can create that reality. I do it all the time, you know.

Yeah, man. That's true. I tell my kids that all the time. Yeah. Well, I've done it since my kids were little. you know, first thing I always tell my kids is you can't say I can't. Right. That ain't word. Becomes true. No can't stuff. Right. Two, I said, you can be whatever you want to be if you want to be it, right? You just got to, and it's not even hard work. That's the other misnomer. Right. If I say, if you work hard, you can be whatever you want. And I will tell you, if you're working hard, you're doing it wrong. It's not about working hard. You know, I use the term working smart. But even working smart is actually not it either. I mean, that is part of it. But if you have an imagination, you can create anything you want. You can have anything. You can have anything.

you want. You just have to believe it. It's a imagination. And, you know, when people ask me, a comp, like, how did you do all these different things? When they first asked me that before I started coaching about eight years ago, I thought it was just keeping up with everybody else, right? And I didn't realize how much I had done. And then I started looking at it. And my daughter called me one day, my oldest daughter, oh, good Lord, she's 41 years old. Can't believe that. But she's like, hey, dad, you ought to try coaching this, that and that, you know, and I do it. And I follow a lot of guys and you could do really well. And I wasn't really sure that was for me, but she kind of talked me into it. And when I started looking at it and it's like, well, what am I going to talk about?

Well, people want to know how you did all this stuff. That's when I started analyzing. And I go, you know what? How did I do all that stuff? And then I realized what the secret sauce was. It wasn't lots of work or hard work. It was imagination. Everything I've created, I imagine it. I don't, I'm lazy. I don't know. That sounds kind of stupid for a Delta operator. But But I remember my team leader in the unit one time. He wanted to move a bunch of shit, right? A bunch of equipment from the trucks up to the loft. He's like, hey, you guys, Compstock, you know,

get all these boxes up there, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, fuck, man, that's a long way to cure some heavy shit, right? And so I had a plan. Say, hey, guys, we're going to use this crane over here, as palo. We're going to do this. We're going to put that on there. And my team leader was like, yeah, leave it up to a lazy guy to find the easy way to do it.

I said, you know what? I think I'll take that as a compliment. That's funny, man. But that's good. That's true, man. That's, that's a powerful message. And it's important for people to, uh, to understand. Life is what you make out of it. It is, man. Um, listen, man, this is a very positive way to wrap up this episode. And I want to thank you again for coming through and, uh, telling these incredible stories, bro. Uh, you're one of a kind. Yeah. Thank you. And I hope we can do it again soon. Yeah, anytime, man. Tell people where they can find you

your stuff online, get in touch with you, all that. Yeah. Um, best place to find me is just go to my website, Dale Compstock.com.com. You can also find me official American badass on Instagram. Easy to access there. I've got coaching programs, mentorship programs. Got several books out there you go. There's a screen up there. I got actually published a new book.

I meant to bring you one. I'll have to ship it to you. Oh, hell yeah. It hasn't come in yet, but it's called Running the Rayses Edge. And it's about my exploits in Yemen. Yaman. Yeah. And well, it's, yeah, what happened there, how it happened. But really, it's more about leadership. and more about human condition than anything else.

But you can pick that up on Amazon. So there's that. And then what else? I don't know. I just do a lot of stuff. Stem cells. Oh, yeah, dude. Have we talked about stem cells?

We did. We talked about it last time. Dude, yeah. That's the bomb. I've been doing it for a year and a half. And, you know, anybody that's listening to me out here right now, you contact me personally. I will get you 100 million stem cells,

three train exosomes for $7,000. No, and it's all telemedicine. home delivery. We'll even send a nurse to your house to give it to you. It don't get no better than that. Shrek McV went and spent 20-something thousand bucks at wherever the hell he went. Yeah. Don't waste your money. Come to me. It's, we're FDA approved. And it's awesome. Yeah. We'll link it all below. Thanks again, man. Everybody, you know what? You find the links down below. Get a whole day. I'll get the stem cells. I can't thank you enough, man. Yeah. Your national treasure brother. Thanks for having me. Thanks. Thanks. Yeah. Just hope,

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