Danny Jones Podcast - #60 - Bipolar Billionaire Plans to Become 'Emperor of the World' | Matthew Cox

Episode Date: November 10, 2020

Frank Amodeo is a megalomaniac hellbent on world domination. Amodeo is the founder of Mirabilis Ventures Inc, a conglomerate of over seventy companies in various industries—including consulting, cor...porate security, manufacturing, employee leasing and hotel ownership—with 40,000 employees and nearly a billion dollars in annual revenue.  The Story of Frank Amodeo is part Tom Clancy,  part Ian Fleming novel and one hundred percent insanity. Since childhood Amodeo claims he’s had voices in his head telling him he was meant to be emperor of the world. He is absolutely, certifiably mentally ill.   In particular, Frank is a unique high-functioning, sub-classification rapid-cycling axis-1 bipolar with narcissistic and antisocial, psychotic features. Simply put, his mood shifts constantly between manic and depressive episodes, during which he has delusions with manic themes.  Frank is also a highly successful attorney who managed to continue his law practice from behind bars, and in fact he was even able to knock 12 years off Matthew Cox’s prison sentence.   On this podcast Matt explains every detail from how Frank was about to purchase a fleet of f-16 fighter jets for $60 million dollars to how he almost took over the Congo in 2006. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:30 by Matthew B. Cox, and on this one, we go deep into the story of a man by the name of Frank Amadeo. For those of you who don't already know, Frank Amadeo is a megalomaniac hell-bent on world domination. He's also the founder of Mirabalus Ventures, a conglomerate of over 70 companies in various industries, including consulting, corporate security, manufacturing, employee leasing, and hotel ownership, with over 40,000 employees and nearly a billion dollars in annual revenue. The story of Frank Amadeo is part Tom Clancy, part Ian Fleming novel, and 100% insanity. Since childhood, Frank claims to have been hearing voices in his head telling him that he was meant to be emperor of the world. He's absolutely certifiably mentally ill. Specifically, he suffers from bipolar
Starting point is 00:01:13 disorder. Frank is a unique high-functioning, subclassification, rapid cycling, Axis 1, bipolar with narcissistic, antisocial psychotic features. Simply put, his mood shifts constantly between manic and depressive episodes during which delusions of manic themes occur. That being said, Frank is a highly successful attorney who managed to continue his law practice from behind bars, and in fact, he was even able to knock 12 years off Matthew Cox prison sentence. On this podcast, Matt explains every detail from how Frank was about to purchase a fleet of F-16 fighter jets for $60 million to how he almost took over the Congo in 2006. That's the hook. Please enjoy this podcast with Matthew Cox. welcoming the crowd favorite, Matthew B. Cox.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Good evening, Matt. Thanks for coming back to the show. Oh, look at them. We got you today. Some studio pins. So, Matt. Artsy. What are we going to talk about today?
Starting point is 00:02:25 What is the title of your new book? All right. I'm glad you asked. It's insanity. The bizarre story of a bipolar, Megalomaniacs insane plan for total world domination. I think I went a little overboard on the subtitle.
Starting point is 00:02:46 But, you know. No? It's perfect. I know. You could do more. You could have written a small paragraph. So this is one of your most popular stories.
Starting point is 00:02:55 It's a fan favorite about the one and only Frank Amadeo, the bipolar, schizophrenic, sociopath, megalomaniac. With... It's through sociopath. You said sociopath. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Well, what's the actual title for him? He is a rapid cycling. He's an Access 1 Rapid Cycling bipolar with features of schizophrenia. And how did you first meet this guy? He was, he came into the prison. I don't know when it was, 2009 or 2009? Yeah, 2009 or 10? Yeah, 2009.
Starting point is 00:03:32 In the low and he was all drugged up for like a year or so. Took him like a year to convince the staff to take him off of the psychotropotropic. Psychotropic. Whatever. The meds. And they took him off the meds, which helped him kind of clear up his thinking, and he started fighting his case. Of course, by the time they took him off his meds, he was time barred from actually being able to fight his conviction. Because you only have one year.
Starting point is 00:04:00 So by the time they take him off the meds, and he's able to actually kind of comprehend what's going on. Yeah. It's been past a year, and it's too late to start fighting your case. You only have a year. So anyway, he ends up fighting, he ends up fighting a ton of other inmates' cases. In my case is one of the cases that he fought. He was like the go-to lawyer for all the inmates at Coleman. Yeah, he was a real trained lawyer.
Starting point is 00:04:27 He's a real lawyer. Is he an actual, is he a good lawyer? He's a fucking, he's an amazing lawyer. I'm serious. What do you mean? How much time did he get you knocked off? 12 years. That they didn't want to give me.
Starting point is 00:04:38 That they absolutely didn't want to give me. And I talked to multiple lawyers on the street that said, you don't have a shot. There's nothing you can do. And yet he managed to get, file 2, 2255s, get the court to appoint me to attorneys. Both attorneys flew down and said, you know, what are you doing? They were like, you wrote this motion, but you need to take the police. You need to take what they're offering. Who else's case did he work?
Starting point is 00:05:05 that he got a bunch of time off of? A ton of guy. I mean, I got a list of guys in the book. What about Devoroli? No, no, Devoroli. No. No? Devaroli got six years. He got two four-year terms.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Okay. And it was actually part of it. Devereoli, for people listening who don't know who he is. He's the guy that the movie War Dogs is based off of. War dogs. Jonah Hill. Jonah Hill. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Jonah Hill made Devoroli look salty cuddly. And you were hanging out with him in prison. Yes. I wrote a memoir for, I wrote Devoroli's memoir, which is called Once a Gunrunner. And we're talking to him. He might come on the show. He might be a guest soon. He may.
Starting point is 00:05:40 He's scared. He's scared of being in the limelight. He is. Does he laugh like Jonah Hill does in that movie? Did you meet? You met him? Yeah, he spent years with him. I'll bet you I spent a hundred hours with that.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Does he laugh like that? Never showed up on time. Not one time did he ever show up. Never. Never. You couldn't let him walk off for like, hey, I'll be back in 20 minutes. Never see him again. Got to go on.
Starting point is 00:06:05 him down. He'd turn around, he'd walk in his cell and turn around and look at it. You go, oh, oh, oh. And then he, all right, I'm coming, I'm coming. I don't know, he doesn't, I don't remember how Jonah Hill laughed, but Debroli laughs. He has that real high-pitched laugh. It was like, really weird. No, he, Debroli laughs, like, just, like, in your face, like, I mean, just like, he's, he's, he's, he's crazy. It's great. What are, what are his, conditions? Does he have any of these, these conditions that the emperor has? bipolar. He's bipolar, narcissistic, arrogant.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Pretty much same stuff I have. So how long have you worked on this book about Frank Amadeo, the emperor? I've been writing. And why do you call him the emperor? All right, let me, can I give, you want me to give this? I want to know, I want to know why everyone calls him the emperor. Because since he has been, in his teens, he has believed that he's hearing the voice of God,
Starting point is 00:07:03 tell him he is preordained. be emperor of the world. Now, lots of people think that. Lots of people say that, not lots of people, what am I saying? Lots of people. Lots of homeless people say that. Like, crazy people say that. The difference is, you know, he graduates high school. He goes on to college. He ends up getting a law degree. He becomes a venture capitalist. He gets, according to the IRS, he has over 70, or not IRS, this is the FBI. According to the FBI, He has over 70 companies. He committed a major fraud, and he was hiring, they said, he has hired retired FBI agents, IRS agents, and Secret Service agents to work for him.
Starting point is 00:07:44 He had several small black water style companies. He puts this whole thing together. And his whole purpose for building this whole conglomerate is to ultimately take over the world. He tried to buy fighter jets. I got pictures of him with the fighter jets. I've got... Oh, not just... Look, it's not just that.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Oh. Jesus Christ. Look at this. This dude's gnarly. This is... I'm looking at pictures of this goofy fat man, Frank Amadeo. Standing next to a fighter jet with his foot up on the ladder, like he's posing next to a fucking sports car.
Starting point is 00:08:21 And one of the other CEOs of his company is the guy that's sitting in the cockpit. They fly in... I talk about it. They fly in like two... Airplay, I forget what that was, an F-18 or F-22 or something. They fly him in, but he's actually trying to buy like a squadron, like two dozen
Starting point is 00:08:38 F-14s and F-15s. How much are those planes? I don't know, the total purchase was like 60... Okay, we're not getting answer that. The total purchase of the planes was 60 million.
Starting point is 00:08:54 So I don't know what a used F-15 goes for, but if it's 30 years old, and that, you know, the technology is 30 year old technology but they're still flying all over the middle east and in africa yeah and um you know all over europe they're still you know um what is it Israel still flying f15s f-16s he's trying to buy f-14s and f-15s did did did frank amadeo give you permission to publish this book um yeah he did he did he participated in the writing of the book so he participated in the writing does he know you published it i don't know if he knows i if i don't know if he knows i published
Starting point is 00:09:27 so you think it's better to ask it's just that it's like actually that's like ask for forgiveness instead of for permission type deal with the book. I don't need permission. Oh, you don't need his permission to publish it. How do I need a permission? You participated. You knew I was writing a book. You gave me permission.
Starting point is 00:09:43 You knew I was writing a book about you. You participated. If you talked to a reporter and suddenly two weeks later, there's an article about you talking to the reporter. Are you going to say, it's freedom of speech? Yeah, but I just feel like it'd be so scary to, you know, you said how good of a fucking lawyer he is. He got 12 years off your sentence.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Like, don't fuck. with a guy that's that good of a lawyer because my god listen i don't know it just seems like a sketchy thing to do it seems like hey maybe that could be a concern pretty pretty i feel pretty confident about the constitution in the united states giving me permission though yeah pretty sure okay so if you were in public and you videoed someone two guys getting into a fight and you put it on youtube are you are you are right he actively participated actively participated in the book I mean, gave me all of this information. He gave me all this.
Starting point is 00:10:34 What is all this information you have over here? What is all this paperwork? I mean, this is FBI. This is an FBI 302. Talks about his company. He talks about how he's hiring all these guys. Let's see. What is this?
Starting point is 00:10:48 I don't know, man. I didn't really have time. Oh, these are articles about the Congo where he was, when he tried to take, he tried to pull off a political coup in the Congo by backing a political candidate. This is an article in the, Harold Tribune. This is one from the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Wow. The New York Times. This is one from World News, NBC. This is, oh, listen to this. So I looked up private military. 2006, this New York Times article was from. 32 charged in coup plot being sent home. Congo said it was deporting 32 foreigners,
Starting point is 00:11:27 including three Americans that had charged last week with planning a coop before national elections in July. Can you read it like Michael Babaro? Who's Michael Babaro? The guy from the Daily? Oh. No, I can't do that. I'm not even going to try to do that.
Starting point is 00:11:42 A coup before national elections in July, saying it would have been, it would have taken too long to prosecute them. Officials said the men who also included 10 Nigerians, 19 South Africans, worked as security guards and were found with weapons. The American's employer, AQMI Strategy Corp of Orlando. Acme.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Acme. Aquame. Aquamy Strategy Corp of Orlando, Florida said they were providing security and campaign counseling for a candidate in the elections and were not carrying any weapons. A United Nations spokesman of Kinshasa. The capital. Is that the capital of the Congo? Has said the organization believes the arrests are an attempt at political manipulation before the elections. All right. So you can see that Acme Corporation. That's his company.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Frank Amadeo. Okay. It was actually called Acme Incorporated. Acme, it spelled AQMI. Q. Does he know Q? Is he in Q? Is he QA non?
Starting point is 00:12:40 That's a sign. So. I looked up private military companies, right? Like, like Dinotech and Blackwater and all those, right? Yeah. So right here, and this is like, this is this guy from Blackwater, the chairman of Blackwater, and this is everything. This is his company right here is Acme Strategy Court.
Starting point is 00:12:58 That's Frank's company. Wow. same company. So, I mean, so he had a bunch of, anyway, look, the point is, is that he was a lawyer. He actually was disbarred. What's wrong? Nothing. Yeah, what the fuck do you look at me like that for? I don't know what the deal. I don't know what the deal. What's going on? Nothing. I was just looking at him. I can hear a mouth breathing from here.
Starting point is 00:13:20 I mean, I really only do like a short half chapter or a chapter on his childhood, him becoming, they tried to be, the CIA tried to recruit him. Did I tell you? I interviewed a guy from the CIA. Yeah, I tried to give you the, I tried to get you to call him and bring him on the podcast. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The CIA guy? Yep, I remember him.
Starting point is 00:13:38 So I interviewed a CIA guy all about his, his, really? Oh, it's great. What the CIA guy had to say? The guy was basically saying, because Amadeo said when he was about to graduate law school, the CIA came to him, and they were basically in the law school and Emory, and they were asking guy, people,
Starting point is 00:13:55 lawyers, or about to be lawyers, that they were asking him to fill out, to take tests, takes tests to see if they wanted to be a CIA agent. He took it and they came back and they said, look, you know, we want to offer your job.
Starting point is 00:14:05 They offered him a job. But Amadeo, before Amadeo graduated, his father came down with a esophagus cancer, like throat cancer. And so he couldn't do it. He had to like stay and take care of his father. So he never ended up doing it.
Starting point is 00:14:18 He ended up getting a law degree. He became a bankruptcy attorney. He eventually ended up losing his license. You know, look, he's bipolar. Yeah. So he has fits of,
Starting point is 00:14:28 he has, Basically, he'll go through, he'll be kicking ass for eight months or a year. Yeah. Go into a deep, deep depression for four or five days or a week and can't even get out of bed. Really? And the thing is, he's also, this is ridiculous, it's going to sound silly. He's hypersensitive to caffeine. So he, like, I would sit there and you're talking to him.
Starting point is 00:14:49 He would drink a six pack of Coke. I probably, probably drank 40 or 50 coaks a day or Pepsi's a day in prison. He's constantly drinking him. to try and elevate himself so that he didn't slip into a depression, like a mood stabilizer. So. Yeah, but isn't that like the opposite of a mood stabilizer? Because you're just going to be fucking jacked on sugar and then you're just going to crash. I mean, maybe, but the fact is, is he's bipolar, so who knows?
Starting point is 00:15:14 He's up there. You understand? Look, we would be, I'm going to give you an example of what it's like being around him. Maybe he's just like trying to fight through the depression part with the sugar. Right. So he can feel it coming on so he drinks four or five of these things and it kicks him back up. Okay, okay. So literally, like the guy is.
Starting point is 00:15:28 brilliant, right? He's doing all this legal work in prison, but I mean, but I'm just going to give an example of what it's like being around him. Okay. Just so that you understand that, that, so we're all sitting at Stonehenge, which was this area in Coleman. We call the Stonehenge. We're all sitting around a concrete picnic table talking about law work. Talking to your mic. Sorry, talking about law work. Yeah. And suddenly, me, Pete, Donovan, Frank's there. They're all talking about law work and I'm just sitting there, you know, listening. And, and, you know, And Donovan says something, and all of a sudden, Frank goes, no, no. That's not going to stand.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Absolutely not. No. I'm not going to like that. When my legions march on Washington, we will burn the Constitution and the president will bow it up my feet. And he sits there for a second and nobody says shit. Everybody just sits there. And he goes, okay, we need to do a Johnson motion. So I'm going to need a 2255 for him.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And, okay, Frank, I'll get you the 25. Oh, right, Frank, do you need the... Yeah, there's some... Go ask Thomas in B3. Okay, I'll go right now and take it. And you walk off. And he's never happened. Right, and nobody says shit.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Okay. It's just a momentary lapse of insanity. So that's like a tick for him. A tick. I mean, I don't know what a tick is. He's fucking crazy. It's like people with Tourette's. Sometimes they freak out and start cussing and spitting at people.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Right, but then all of a sudden they might have a spike. He might also be in that manic mode for 30 minutes where he's talking about... I mean, I've seen him tell drug dealers he's going to fucking chop off the heads of all of their, fucking, of all their, like, associates. And he's going to anthrax their entire village. And, I mean, I had that one of the scene in the book where the guy's like, Village, Frank, I'm from Palm Beach. And he goes, Palm Beach then. And you're like, he's going to anthrax Palm Beach. I mean, he just, you know, and what's so funny is the stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:22 That's a clip. The stuff that happens in prison, what happened on the street is more insane. because he's literally trying to buy airplanes. He is actively trying to take over other countries. He steals nearly $200 million from the federal government. And this isn't me saying this. This is, I've got the reports. There's news, you can look up, Frank Amadeo.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Frank Amadeo fraud and it comes right up. 200 million. They always say nearly because they start adding shit in. Really, it was about $182 million. I mean, as if that really matters. I'm just saying, once they start adding in all the fees and everything else, they always say, they always say nearly 200 million. Regardless, it was $182 million is what his restitution is.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I'd vote for him. Can he run for president, even though he was in? Sure. You could write him in? He could run for president even though he was in president? Absolutely. Wow. Emperor.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I'd vote for him. Listen. Do you think he let me and Luke be his campaign managers? I would love to do his advertising. Listen, I don't, a guy that thinks he's going to be. Emperor of the world. I'm not sure how much he's going to scrutinize anybody that supports him. If you're Emperor
Starting point is 00:18:34 though, you need somebody who's in charge of propaganda. I would love to take that on. Me too. We could do that. We could move with the strongest campaign slogan for him and the sickest graphics. I'm a deal for Emperor. 24. Forever. Forever. Forever. He's, yeah, this is good stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Oh, I think I showed. Didn't I show you some of these? These were fucking awesome. What, what are you looking at, pictures of him right now? No. So what's... Yeah, it's amazing. Come on, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:06 That's amazing. What are you looking at right now? Describe it for me, Luke. This looks like the best YouTube thumbnail I've ever seen. He's cut out and Photoshop with a, like, a 5-pixel white stroke around him. He's crossing his arms, like, he's filming an H-LN reality show. He's in the desert. There's missiles firing in the background.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Amadeo for Emperor Quote I will anthrax your entire village And then also signed off Quoted Frank Amadeo I mean I can love that I got the fist
Starting point is 00:19:42 I got the fist I got the fist With it where it says You know Amadeo for Emperor It's got the fists That make a strong yard sign too Oh yeah
Starting point is 00:19:48 That should be the thumbnail for the podcast So what the fuck's his deal He started out in his 20s going to law school Right? He wanted to become a lawyer Yeah Yeah dude you got it Good stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And when did he fly off the rails? I mean, he's in law school. He couldn't go to the CIA because his dad got cancer. He had to take care of his dad. Right. At what point does this all start to go sideways? Well, you know, he meets, he ends up working for Hyatt, at Hyatt legal services, which is like a bankruptcy firm.
Starting point is 00:20:18 You know what it is? It's kind of like the people to do your taxes, right? Like what is it? Who does your taxes? Like H&R Block? Like H&R Block, but it's for bankruptcy. He was a company that started off. They were trying to do it.
Starting point is 00:20:31 They had them all over the place. He goes in. He starts running the company. And he's doing great. And he ends up marrying this woman by the name of Claire. And so they get married. And, you know, he said that basically is like, I tried to suppress my knowledge. And this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:20:49 He always talked about it. Like, Claire's always known about it. And even in high school, he said that everybody knew about it. And it was kind of like they just laughed it off. He was kind of a corky little thing. When I'm emperor, and they'd be like emperor. And he was like, well, I'm going to be emperor of the world. And they'd be like, oh, okay, Frank.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And they kind of laugh it off. Of course, you're a teenager. It's funny, which are also brilliant. They're going to let it go. But it doesn't, it never subsides. It's a continuing thing. And people kind of accept it as being, you know, if you're kind of corky and there's something weird about you, a little odd about you.
Starting point is 00:21:22 But it's also kind of funny. You're going to let it go because I like you. Right? So you're going to let it go. Well, it progresses. He ends up meets Claire. They get married. He tries to be a normal citizen.
Starting point is 00:21:33 He eventually drops into a depression, goes into the hospital, comes out. And this is back in the 80s and 90s, and nobody's really thinking depression. Like they're not really, what's wrong with him? He won't get out of bed. He's sick. He's tired. He's lethargic. What?
Starting point is 00:21:50 Streams crashed. All right. That's all right. We can keep rolling. Just keep rolling. So, yeah. So he, he. As long as I'm still recording.
Starting point is 00:21:57 All right. What ends up happening Trying to think of where the This one is Okay So What ends up happening is He ends up getting in trouble
Starting point is 00:22:13 Because According to Amadeo I'm not sure that the So wait where did all these Notions of being emperor of the world Come from Like that didn't just come out of thin air Where do you think he got that from?
Starting point is 00:22:27 No I think he was reading some science fiction in books when he was a kid and like I mean he was a big fan of Star Trek but I don't know he was yeah but I mean so was I I don't think I'm taking over the world I think he's bipolar with features of schizophrenia I think there's it's a yeah he had to have gotten that whole emperor story from somewhere not necessarily a lot of bipolar or or people with skins of he's not schizophrenic he's if he was schizophrenic he wouldn't even be functional right he just has aspects of it so what the I don't know where that came from.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I don't know if it's just a prolonged, uh, floor delusion that has continued his whole life, which is essentially what the psychiatrists are saying. Yeah. Because I actually have his, uh, the,
Starting point is 00:23:10 uh, evaluation of capacity from the, from the government right here where it's got all the, these are all the, these are all the, the, um, the doctors and psychiatrists that actually,
Starting point is 00:23:22 that actually, look, here, here's the emperor of the world right here for incommerea. This is from the, this is from the, this is from the, uh,
Starting point is 00:23:28 This is a federal government ordered that report, and he had to be interviewed by several psychiatrists, and there's quotes in there taken from Frank and taken from the psychiatrists, if that makes sense. Talking about how since he was a child, he's believed this, it's been a constant. So eventually what ends up happening is he ends up getting in trouble, and he goes to jail.
Starting point is 00:23:53 He actually, listen to, he's supposed to get 24 months probation. What? People are saying PayPal is they're saying. Yeah. Oh, really? Pay pals are sent? People are paying. I mean, if people are paying, you got to put your address.
Starting point is 00:24:03 What did they pay for? Who paid for what? Yeah, I got to be able to get in touch with it. I mean, I got something. I just saw something light up. Check your, check your phone. I got $1.99. A dollar 99?
Starting point is 00:24:13 Oh, hell, yeah. This is the guy that this is a guy I know. He's, well, anyway, he said for coffee. All right. So what happens is, I don't even know where I was. No, do I? Oh, the, the, the, the, The psychiatrist report?
Starting point is 00:24:31 He was one of the psychiatrists? Yeah, that was a psychiatrist report. But, oh, he gets in trouble. He eventually gets in trouble. And listen, he's supposed to get 24. When this whole thing... What are you in trouble for? The whole company, basically he went and started his own bankruptcy company.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Okay. So he takes on a ton of... He's got a few partners, takes on some partners, takes on a ton of clients, and he ends up going into depression. They hospitalized him. By the time he gets out of the hospital and goes back to work, it's been weeks, maybe a month or I think it's been over a month or so. basically his partners couldn't handle the volume, and there are all these complaints, and he ends up getting disbarred, because he doesn't even show up for the trial.
Starting point is 00:25:08 And what happens is money that had been collected by them had been, he says that he wasn't in charge of the account, and they had used the money for bills or whatever. Basically, it was co-mingling of funds, and several people lost money, and he ended up getting disbarred. I don't know what the police report says. Police report basically says that there was money placed in. into an account and that he essentially used the money to pay bills and that he was part of the whole thing and understood it. And then when he got sick, it caught up with him, whatever. My point is, oh, Nancy Grace, you don't know who Nancy Grace is?
Starting point is 00:25:42 No. Fuck Nancy Grace. Nancy Grace. Nancy Grace. Oh, man. Nancy Grace was the prosecutor. She couldn't prosecute him. So she ended up giving him to the U.S. attorney.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Nancy Grace is a, she's got her own CNN show where she's, she's, remember she's a, like a 40, 50-year-old white chick with blonde hair. She's like Alex Jones, but a lady. Really? Oh, vicious. So she can't prosecute him, but she hands it over the U.S. She's Democrat or Republican? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Oh, I'm sure she's got to be what. She's mad. She's just angry. She's an angry woman. I don't know why. She's just mad. She's on CNN. So she ends up handing it to the U.S. attorney.
Starting point is 00:26:21 U.S. attorney indicts him. He's supposed to get 24 months. When they go to, when they go to, at, interview several people. They interview his wife, and his wife says, he's got to go to jail. She's, you can't give him 24 months probation. She goes, he'll never learn his lesson.
Starting point is 00:26:37 He's got to go to jail. Wow. So they say, well, you're going to jail. So they send him to what's called shock boot camp. They used to have this boot camp, and you go there for like nine months or something. They let you out. So he goes there for nine months.
Starting point is 00:26:48 And when he gets out, this is in the middle of the, basically the Soviet Union has fallen apart. This is probably around, what, something, around 2000 something. and he ends up starting a company called Morabalus that is based on his thesis that he had written, which is called Capital Genesis. Capital Genesis is his plan for world domination, and if you actually listen to him, explain the whole thing,
Starting point is 00:27:21 it's essentially it's Spector from like James Bond. it's a whole slew of these companies. It's great because the CIA agent in the book breaks it all down. And so does Amadeo. He's like, it's basically it's Specter. It's all of these companies that feed off of one another. So we all own these companies and we all give each other favorable contracts so that we can grow bigger and bigger.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And we have a shared agenda and we're going to buy up all these other companies and just continue to grow and grow and grow. And we all have a shared goal. He said the same concept is being used right now Kind of like his own little government Right, and ultimately he'll be able to spread throughout the entire What's so funny? Kyle Robert said Nancy Grace Titty popped out on Dancing with His Stars
Starting point is 00:28:11 And that thing looked like a burnt salami Fuck We need to get Kyle Roberts live in here Yeah, anyway So yeah, he uh, so yeah, he, he ends up getting out, he starts this company, they start, he starts buying up. So he owns all these companies that are all buying, serving each other. He keeps go, he goes in, he buys these companies that are failing. So he goes in and he buys the company, he either bankrupts it. Yeah. Or puts it,
Starting point is 00:28:38 he might put into bankruptcy into bankruptcy and restructure the company. Or maybe he bankrupts it completely, pays off the debtors, or, you know, and, or maybe he restructures it and turns it around, but he's able to use the bankruptcy laws to his advantage. So as the companies grow and and this is what's interesting, I literally there is, there are transcripts where, look, he's always said, like people that came to work for him, they always know. Like, if you're a CPA, they let him know, he lets them know, I have a condition, I'm, I'm bipolar. Like, everybody knows. All the lawyers that work for him know, the CPAs know, everybody knows. They even bring in a psychiatrist to basically monitor his behavior.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And he keeps buying, he's buying these companies, he's bankrupting him, he's growing and growing. He ends up buying a bunch of military-style companies. Like he buys a military company that does, they build portable satellites for the military. He ends up starting several small, like Blackwater-style companies. companies. And I end up in the book, I explain that I basically, there's like three of them. And basically it's called tactical. So I name them all tactical. They all have different names, like tactical strategy, such and such tactical. So they're not basically tactical. Tactical ends up getting a bunch of contracts in Iraq. No, in Afghanistan where they, sorry, they, they, they protect
Starting point is 00:30:11 convoys of food. They protect, you know, they protect diplomats, that sort of thing. His company is? His company. Wow. And is getting paid by the government? Yeah. Oh, listen, he's, he's, they also do what's, you know, what black bag operations are. The CIA guy goes, it all of it. What's a black bag operation? Basically, look.
Starting point is 00:30:30 So, you're a Russian hacker. Okay, you're like a Russian hacker. We have you indicted. But we can't go into Russia and get you. But then you end up going into the into, let's say, let's say you end up going into, let's, whatever, um, whatever. You, you, you go to Brazil or something. or you go to Norway on vacation. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:51 So still, we can't go in there and kidnap somebody else. But what happens is the state department says or the FBI or CIA or whoever, they say, look, this guy is going to be in Norway. He's a Russian citizen. He's a hacker. We have him indicted. If he shows up on U.S. soil, there's a $200,000 check waiting for you. So what did they go in? They watch them for a week.
Starting point is 00:31:15 and then they hit him with a fucking taser, put a bag over his head, throw him in the back of the van, drive him to a... A bounty. They throw him in there, flying back here. They call the FBI and say,
Starting point is 00:31:26 hey, yeah, you know, Ivan Krakkanakis is here at the fucking airport. Come pick them up. They come pick them up and say, there you go. Really? Listen, I've seen a lot. This happens all the time in South America.
Starting point is 00:31:39 You know how many South Americans that I've met from... So this was Amadeo's business, was blackbagging people? One of the big. businesses that his company was in charge of. His umbrella company was in charge of this business. Yes, one of them.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And you know who the person in charge of his little private military or private, I wouldn't call it private military. Their private security company was a guy that was a retired secret service agent. He's all over. His name's Kevin Billings. If you're punching Kevin Billings, he's all over. Right now he runs a security company. he's a security consultant
Starting point is 00:32:16 another guy named Joe Robinson who used to work for Buddy Dye This Billings guy What's his name Kevin Billings? Kevin Billings. He also He ran Amadeo's security company Companies, yeah
Starting point is 00:32:30 So these guys are running the company He's also one of the guys that gets arrested in the Congo Remember the guys Eventually what happens is Amadeo start He decides look He's got enough He starts withholding
Starting point is 00:32:44 Here's what happens in order to in order to fund this insane plan for world domination, he's trying to buy planes and do all these things. Like I said, the planes are like 60 million, right?
Starting point is 00:32:54 So it's $60 million purchase. So he's looking at planes. He's negotiating with the Cypriots to keep the planes there. He's already got Russians. You can't buy an F-14 or F-15 fully armed. They basically call them declawing it.
Starting point is 00:33:10 They strip all the guts out of it, right? So you can't buy it with missiles or even the missile equipment. But if you fly it over... Can you claw the bird. But if you fly it over to Cyprus, they can rebuild it. The Russians will come in or Ukrainians will come in
Starting point is 00:33:23 and they'll re-put everything back in for you. Now I got fully functional shit. So that's what he's trying to do and he's negotiating with the Cypriots. But he needs money. You can't just take over the world. Not that I think it's... I know it's insane.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Not that I think it's true, that you could do it. But he thinks you can do it. Even the CIA guy was like, you can't take over the world. It would take generations to be able to pull it off. He's like, but he goes, I mean, the CIA guy said, I've never seen someone as capable and functioning, high functioning as Amadeo that believed it was possible. So what happens is he's trying to buy the planes.
Starting point is 00:33:58 He's trying to do all these things. He's negotiating, but you need money to do that, right? He's got a ton of companies. But one of the ways he figures out, how do I get the money to buy all that, to do all this stuff? Well, here's what happens is you understand payroll. let's say your paycheck is going to be $1,000 this week. Okay. So the company is going to send, you're going to get $1,000.
Starting point is 00:34:20 They're going to withhold $200, right, for the IRS. So who sends that money to the IRS? There's a thousand and probably more like $500. Okay, let's say it's 300. So you're supposed to get, so that means the company keeps $300, right? Right. They keep $300 from me, $300 from you, $300. He's got $40,000 employees paying $300.
Starting point is 00:34:39 bucks it's supposed to go to the IRS. What does he do? He stopped sending it to the IRS. No. And that's why it slowly grows and grows until it's almost $200 million. And he's using the money to back, to buy planes, to buy all kinds of stuff. Wow. He's doing just good stuff, right? And here's the thing. Here's how you do that, by the way, which is legal. I have a company. All I have to do is report to the IRS. Hey, IRS. we owe you $120,000 this week. We have the money, but we're not sending it to you right now. We're holding it because we're considering going into bankruptcy,
Starting point is 00:35:20 or we're going into bankruptcy, and you're just a debtor. So I'm holding the money. We don't have the money to send you, but we do owe it to you. Just like if you're of any vendor that I own money. We bought a bunch of equipment. We're making payments to you. Guess what? We can't make the payment this month, but we know we owe it to you.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And you may be included in our bankrupt. You can't come get your shit. The IRS can't do anything. They go, okay, well, just keep us posted. And so he negotiates with them. Eventually, a lot of the companies, he might owe a million, two million dollars. He goes into the IRS under the bankruptcy and says, look, we're either going to bankrupt it and you're going to get virtually nothing. Or let us get on a payment plan except less than the million or two million we owe you, except $300,000 and we'll pay you off over the next year.
Starting point is 00:36:04 And they go, I mean, it's that or nothing. So they take it. So he's doing this, actively doing this for years to the tune of 200 million. He eventually ends up buying, I'm sorry, backing a political candidate to run for president of the Congo, the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Why? Well, because the Congo has, is the largest, I don't want to say surplus, but it has the largest depository of minerals in the world. zinc everything
Starting point is 00:36:41 it's got all you know zinc what is the other uh um god there's some other ion what's the thing in uncut gems
Starting point is 00:36:50 I forget what you have oh I mean you've got diamonds you got gold you got silver you got you've got platinum but it's also got you know there's a metal that's in cell phones
Starting point is 00:37:00 that's huge titanium okay titanium whatever it is I don't know what it is the point is they've got tons of I love it.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Here's the issue is that because there's these warring factions, nobody can go in and get to it. They've been at war for 40, 50 years. Nobody can go. So you're going to go in and wipe out the entire population and then just take it, which nobody's going to let you do. Or you hope that eventually the government gets a stable government that's not corrupt. So he backs a political candidate that's actually really almost an American. Okay. It's a Congolese that came here, was educated here, became a doctor, and then goes back.
Starting point is 00:37:38 back there and he goes in and he says, look, I'm going to run your campaign, I'll fund your campaign, I'm going to provide security for your campaign. But once you're a president, you have to adopt capital genesis, which is my idea of how we're going to structure the entire economy. And he knows that very quickly the economy will, you know, it'll, it'll stabilize and then he'll be able to go into other countries. He also plans on building the largest military in history. He's already got, he's already negotiating. At this point he was negotiating with the World Bank. No, not the World Bank. So what was his plan?
Starting point is 00:38:15 To do this with every country in the world? Well, his plan was to go into Africa and then spread into, you know, whatever, Nigeria and all these neighboring. Eventually he ends up with Africa. He ends up with the whole country. So you've got a continent. Now we're a continent. Now we're moving. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:31 He's got the president of every country in his pocket. It may not even be the president. He may just come in. And the fact is, once he goes into Congo, he's got a security force. He's going to start training these guys and build his own private military. And just take over the rest of the country. And just take over. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Well, why wouldn't I just not that, yeah, the whole continent, not the country. The whole continent. I meant the continent. The whole continent. I meant the continent. Yeah. It's not hard to take over one of these companies. A guy named Simon Mann who actually, there were actually,
Starting point is 00:38:58 uh, he, Simon Mann brought, had a small security company that came in and actually, I think it was Sierra Leone. there was a rebel uprising or something where they basically had pulled off like a coup and they had forget exactly but basically they'd taken over the country and he came in and with his hundred and some odd guys
Starting point is 00:39:17 takes the whole country back like they had taken the oil fields and everything he comes in and takes there's a whole documentary on it that's what they thought Amadeo was they thought he was a Simon man that was an issue for them
Starting point is 00:39:29 because it was like a year earlier that had happened when he goes into Congo so what happens is while his guys are in the Congo running this guy's campaign. By the way, the guy's name is a, was it, was it a,
Starting point is 00:39:42 I forget his name, damn it. Anyway, so his candidate goes from number, like 30 down to number three. The other candidates that are running
Starting point is 00:39:49 is the current president and the second person in the polls was a general by the name of Bimba. And Bimba is a general. So imagine if, oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Imagine if George, if, if Schwartz-Cawf, was general of the military and also running for president. Do you see what I mean? Like you can't do that. What are you doing? That's how it is there.
Starting point is 00:40:15 So this guy has got his own army and the armies aren't all like together. Like you've got an army, you've got an army. You guys are all under me. And they're like, yeah, yeah, we're under you. You know, you keep sending us money and feeding us and everything. We're going to stay here and we're going to, you know, it's not exactly like you're saying, go over there. And they're like, why would we go over there?
Starting point is 00:40:33 Why would we invade them? I mean, it's a discussion. This isn't like it is in the United States. So he was running for president. They realized that this candidate is coming down in the polls, and he may end up winning the presidency. So Bimba ends up grabbing all 32 of Amadeo's security staff, and they grab them and arrest them,
Starting point is 00:41:01 and they bring them to a military base, and they hold them for nine days, while Amadeo negotiates and the State Department negotiate to have them released. And it's a whole thing. The CIA is involved. It's a whole, it's a, actually there's a documentary. Yeah, nine days in the Congo. Nine days in the Congo.
Starting point is 00:41:19 It's on my channel. Go to my channel. Inside True Crime. Matt Cox and Inside True Crime. And you can watch nine days in the Congo. It's great. It is, it is. It's great.
Starting point is 00:41:29 And you can see Amadeo. There's interviews with Amadeo. He's great. He's like five foot four. He looks like the little Caesar guy. He's amazing. Is he taller than you? No, I think I'm about an inch taller than him.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Maybe two inches. With a good pair of shoes, with a good pair of shoes, for sure I'm taller. Wow. So, Amadeo goes in. He goes in, hard and fast like a prison rape. They try and grab the Congo. They arrest his guys. He has to negotiate to get the guys out.
Starting point is 00:42:01 The CIA's involved. It's a whole thing. He threatens to. Oh, he hires this whole, he hires a bunch of mercenaries to basically fly in and rescue the troops. He doesn't have to do it, but he does actually hire them and they're waiting to go in. So while this, did I tell you that most of his, this is, I love this, most of the meetings that he has, like to arrange these types of things. Like he has a bunch of meetings with some people from, is it Tajikistan? because he also tries a coup in Tajikistan.
Starting point is 00:42:35 They have their meetings like at Disney World. Nice. It's just perfect. Like the whole thing takes place in Orlando. That's perfect. I mean, it's so fitting for somebody who thinks he's going to take over the world. Yeah, it is. After they get the guys back, they then, he's also trying to,
Starting point is 00:42:55 he also is approached by some oligarchies who want to take over to Jukistan. because they're having an issue with Putin. And he's basically, they're trying to get him to pull off a coup and to Jerkistan. Tojikistan? Tojerkistan? Tojerkistan? To Jokistan? Jerky.
Starting point is 00:43:17 So that's happening. And then so the other thing is, okay, so look, once he gets the guys back, right? So. He gets him. How does he get him back? Well, I mean, they basically let him go. Like, there's just so much pressure on them and they're, you know, they're. And what is it?
Starting point is 00:43:30 They do that to try to, like, derail him running. Yeah, absolutely. Because his guy now ends up taking, like, he ends up running, or he ends up coming in, like, fifth. And the guy was, like, third, and he may end up having one. But now you just, you just basically just decimated his entire campaign. We just took 32 of your Congo guys. So these guys are basically like, okay, we're done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:49 These guys will basically just grab us and shoot us in the fucking street. Yeah. So, you know, I like you. I want you to be president. It's not with me dying. Yeah. So. It's been real.
Starting point is 00:44:00 his guy ends up getting i think comes in fifth amadeo umadeo ends up being invited to the white house i've got pictures of him with president bush you see in the picture of him with president bush and it's not like a photo op i mean he's in he's in the roosevelt room with people from nato and they're all sitting there talking and you know it's not a photo op
Starting point is 00:44:24 it's crazy to think he made it to the white house the white house standing there with those people and this guy's trying to take over the whole fucking world. And, you know, what's so funny is, but think about it, if you had a buddy who said that to you. But is it everybody that's in politics somewhat, don't you think everybody in politics
Starting point is 00:44:38 is kind of like him? Not to that extreme. Everybody's got a little quirky. The foundation of that way of thinking. I feel like is in some way or another in the people's minds that are in politics.
Starting point is 00:44:53 What, that they ultimately want to take over the world? Not that they, like, I'm not saying to that extreme. But like a watered down version of that. I mean, yeah, I think they all think that they may all think that they want to make some massive changes. And we keep in mind, he's his, he's trying to dominate the rails. I mean, he's trying to, he's thinking, look, we're going to, I'm going to do it economically. Or I'm going to do it with force. But it's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:45:21 And he's actively, look, if you gave me $200 million, I'm still never going to think. I can take over the world now. I can start in. Well, yeah, I got, I can start invasance. dating countries now. It's not going to, I'm going to go buy some planes. I'm going to get these guys over here. It's never even going to enter my mind.
Starting point is 00:45:37 This is the other thing that kills me about him. Somebody should give him a lot of money. He's got hundreds of millions of dollars. You gave me $100 million. I'm going to have a penthouse filled with strippers. I'm driving a couple of Ferraris and maybe a Porsche and a Lambo. This guy doesn't do anything. He's driving like a five-year-old Mercedes.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Is that what you would do? That's a goddamn lie. You're going straight to your hairline. Really? Well, and I get one more. How much money would you spend on the hair? One more? I just need one more surgery.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Seven grand. That's all you need. Seven grand. That's nothing. Seven stacks. Seven racks. We could probably get that in the chat. We could probably get that in the chat. Can we get seven racks in the chat for Matt Cox's hairline?
Starting point is 00:46:18 Racks in the chat. So, racks in the chat. He then ends up, so here's where it goes wrong. Rats in the chat. He ends up sponsoring of the NATO Summit in Latvia Riga. No, Enriga, Latvia. What am I saying?
Starting point is 00:46:31 Enriga Latvia. I don't know. I don't know. I was, I mean, I was educated in the South. I didn't know there was a country name. I didn't know there was, is that Russian? I don't know. No fucking idea.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Okay, point is, is that he ends up sponsoring the summit, or part of the summit. He sponsors some of it. While he's there, he ends up going to a cocktail party. He actually meets with the CIA, too, but it's too much to get into. At a cocktail party, he ends up having a manic moment. That shit hits right. Hmm. That?
Starting point is 00:47:02 Oh, yeah. He ends up having a manic moment where he ends up telling a bunch of people at a cocktail party, they ask him about the Congo and what his plans were for Africa. And he basically tells him he's going to build like a million-man army and he's going to take over all of Africa and eventually the entire world. And then he says, we won't need NATO anymore. So by the time he actually flies back. back to the United States.
Starting point is 00:47:31 They're serving subpoenas on his companies. They're digging in. It takes about a year or so for them to finally come up with something they can charge him with. He won't take a plea. He says, I haven't done anything wrong. I had absolute. I had the right to use those funds because they realize he's now using funds that were held for the IRS. He's saying I'm allowed to use those funds.
Starting point is 00:47:55 And we can argue that out in court. when it ends up happening is the U.S. attorney and his gets together with his lawyer and they get him they get him ruled as a as a war of the state and he becomes he's
Starting point is 00:48:12 he's basically incompetent and they grant him they give him a guardian they then send him to a psychiatric hospital where he's drugged and when he comes back they can
Starting point is 00:48:27 convince him to sign a plea, a plea, and they say, look, you're going to sign an open, what's called an open plea. You're going to plead to the charges, but we're going to allow you to go in front of the judge and explain the situation. You'll probably, you might get probation or a couple of years. You'll be fine. He's completely drugged out of his mind. What kind of drugs is he on?
Starting point is 00:48:46 Listen. If you read the transcripts of what he was on. Yeah. I mean, it just goes on and on and on about, you know, depocote and all kinds of just ridiculous. Did they give him any psychedelics? I don't know about psychedelics. Like any kind of like acid or anything? How would I know? I don't know anything about drugs.
Starting point is 00:49:04 They wouldn't have listed it in there. You mean, you would have seen it if you would have read it? I don't know. I don't remember the name of all the drugs. Just give people acid? What are you talking about? Charles Manson. I don't. I'm sure he was giving himself acid. He was getting himself most of it. What? No, the CIA was giving him acid, bro. I'm sure he tells that. How was the CIA giving him? You don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:49:23 M.K. Ultra? What do you? No. And that's Charles Manson. Wait until you see the fucking podcast I'm doing next week. Listen. You don't know. What's that about? Me?
Starting point is 00:49:33 The CIA was giving Charles Manson acid. It was a program when they were getting... I've never heard that. It's fucked up. Weren't they giving prisoners? Was it prisoners or... Or was it the military? It was both, probably.
Starting point is 00:49:43 It was the CIA. How do you just give somebody acid? They were dosed in them. They were doing mind control. Yeah, they were trying. They were doing mind control shit that they were testing on prisoners to use with military people to basically convince somebody just to go kill somebody and like completely drain them of all emotions and all empathy and everything. All right. So he's on 3,000 milligrams of Depakote daily, eight grams of
Starting point is 00:50:09 geodone daily and cocaine. Lebitol. Libetard. Whatever. Daily. Two milligrams of a sleep induced agent, which helps, accelerate the medication,
Starting point is 00:50:27 which is Rasmore or a metoriful. This is all the stuff he's on. He's basically Drew. Yeah, it sounds All right there.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Sounds like a goddamn golden corral of cocktails. So, anyway, he ends up, the judge, he talks, so then they take him off the medication.
Starting point is 00:50:47 They never tell us, they never tell his guardian. They have him sign a plea. Here, sign the plea. You'll get to go in front of the judge. You can explain what happened. The judge will, you know, you probably won't be in trouble. It's not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:50:57 But you did break the law, sign the plea. So he signs a plea. You're a war of the state. You're incompetent. You were given, they know he was given a guardian. Why are you asking me to sign a plea? I'm not allowed to sign a plea. You know I'm not allowed to sign a plea?
Starting point is 00:51:14 They never tell the guardian. You know when the guardian finds out that he signed a plea and was found guilty and sentenced to prison? He calls him from prison two weeks after he gets there. And the guy's like, okay, well, hey, Frank, I'm glad you're doing. And he's like, well, let me know when the trial is. He's like, when the trial is, what are he talking about? I've been sentenced.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I'm in prison. I got 22 years. So he goes in front of the judge. They take him off the medication and they say, go on in there and explain what you were doing, Frank. He goes in there and starts talking about world domination and all this crazy shit. They just set up. Three days later, the judge is like, look, you're done. Boom, 22 years.
Starting point is 00:51:50 It's so funny, too, because when I was doing the transcripts, like one of the things that happens is, the doctor says to the judge, Your Honor, Mr. Amadeo realizes he could face up to five years, and the prosecutor goes, 25 years, Your Honor, and he goes 25 years. So the doctor's like, 25, he's like, we know it could be significant. Anyway, I mean, you read the transcripts, it's hilarious. Wow. You know what else is hilarious?
Starting point is 00:52:16 Listen, he actually goes to a board meeting one time wearing a Darth Vader mask. Fuck, yeah. A board meeting. A board meet. He goes in, sits down and conducts an hour-long board meeting in the mass. And he's so, he's so, you know, manic and just off the rails. And you just don't know what he's going to do. Like, nobody says anything.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Now, it's a perfect character for him, Darth Vader. Yeah, it is. It is. That's who he wants to be. That's actually, I interviewed one of the, uh, does he have any kids? Actually where it sounds like the story's making sense now. Where does his kids live? One's, one lives in Australia and the other one's in Orlando.
Starting point is 00:52:53 So anyway, so one of the people that I interviewed, one of the guys, one of the CEOs, I think it was a CEO that I interviewed of his company, he says, Amadeo was like a little Darth Vader being followed around by Stormtroopers. I love that image. That should have been the cover of the book. That should have been the cover of the book for sure. So then, like I remember hearing about the meeting, right? then when I was reading the transcripts this chick Eadie Her name is a
Starting point is 00:53:25 Shit I don't know Anyway Eadie she ends up saying in there She talks about how yeah Oh listen one time he came into a meeting wearing a fucking helmet Darth Vader helmet Conducted the entire media I wouldn't
Starting point is 00:53:35 So I had heard it I was just dying laughing I was like oh my God So I mean I can't get into the whole book But bro it's so over the top insane I think I spit on your mic I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:53:48 It's so over the top Just insane Germ it up I'm actually gonna do those You're responsible It's so over the top insane That I mean it can't get into the whole thing Like you read it and you go
Starting point is 00:54:04 This Why is this not a movie? Look, so when I went to L.A. I met with two producers About the book Like they were like Are you in L.A. last week? Last week.
Starting point is 00:54:13 They're like, this is nuts. Oh, yeah. When we talked about it for like an hour they're like this, this is, this is insanity. And the thing is, you can look it up and you'll see, touching. You'll see little bits and pieces of it when you put it all together and realize what was really happening.
Starting point is 00:54:29 It's, it's just, I want them to make a movie about it's insanity, and I want Jonah Hill to play Amadeo. Don't wait, Jonah Hill can't play. What? Yeah. Jonah Hill's perfect for Amadeo. Jonah Hill? Jonah Hill is amazing.
Starting point is 00:54:44 What do you like Joe Pesci? No, like, no, he's too old. Joe Peshy, bro. Look, he was probably in his late 30s, early 40s when most of this is happening. Danny DeVito. In his 40s. How old is? No, Danny DeVio's tools?
Starting point is 00:54:56 Didn't he play the penguin? He did, yeah. Anyway, Joe McHill and Wolf of Wall Street with those teeth and everything. Oh, yeah, that's definitely. Perfect. When he plays Devereoli, he kills that too. Yeah, he does. So I got the after-action report from the Congo.
Starting point is 00:55:10 I've got the medical reports. I've got all the transcripts. I've got, bro. Buy it now. I got the, anyway, the books on Amazon. That's fucking crazy. The book's on Amazon. Amazon.com.
Starting point is 00:55:21 It's a great book. It's amazing. Everybody buy the book. And it's only 160, it's only 160 pages. Matt Cox 69 at gmail.com. Send some money. Matt Cox 69. I love it.
Starting point is 00:55:33 So, what was the last time you actually talk to Amadeo? Oh, the day before I left. Prison? Really? Like, I can't talk to him because he's, I mean, I could. You're not allowed to talk to me. Yeah, I could, I mean, because he's a fellow. If I told my probation officer, look, I wrote a book about this guy, I'd like to talk to him.
Starting point is 00:55:51 But, you know, I haven't. And he, you know. You think he'd talk to you? Yeah, I think he would. I think he can't, I know he talks to. What do you think he's doing now? I don't know. I think, I mean, I know he was running.
Starting point is 00:56:04 I know he, he was planning on starting some type of a company or something to do post-conviction work for prisoners. but I don't know how well that went. I haven't really reached out to him. I haven't. He hasn't reached out to me. We basically, there's a guy named Donovan Davis. Donovan Davis's wife,
Starting point is 00:56:27 like I've talked to his wife several times, and Amadeo talks to the wife. So she's like he's doing good, he's doing that. But that's it. Like we don't pass messages. We don't really talk because I could call him. You know,
Starting point is 00:56:38 I could ask her, hey, what's his phone number? What's his, but I would have to ask my PO. And I don't, I'm going to do that. I'm going to call him. And don't really need to do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:46 There's no reason to do it. He's got to be up to something, though. I can't have just picture him sitting at home doing nothing. Listen, he's, he's. He's got to have something going on. Here's the thing. He got 22 years, right? So when I leave, when I left, he still had 10 years to go.
Starting point is 00:56:59 And then when he's, six months later to a year. So how is he out right now? He got his, no. He got it through like the second chance act or something. He convinced the court to, to basically allow him to serve. the remainder of his sentence at home under house arrest because they said he said that they don't have the facilities to treat his mental illness so he has to be at home so they said yeah you're right we don't we can't really give you the right um you know counseling and and drugs and monitoring
Starting point is 00:57:33 so we're going to let you go home and so you can go to an actual hospital and and do that and that's so he got transferred to a home confinement which is is 10 years of home confinement I've never heard of that in my life. But it never happens, right? That's excessive. That's insane. It's pretty insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:50 It's nuts. He's the only lawyer to ever do that. I'm the only inmate I've ever heard that's done that. And he happened to be both his inmate. He was his own lawyer, right? Yeah, he, I think he, yeah. Well, he is now. Once you're locked up, they don't give you a lawyer.
Starting point is 00:58:07 You're done. You're just filing shit yourself. You're pro se. PayPal ain't working, bro. What is the deal? Somebody sent me. People are complaining that they can't send you money. Well, that's up, that is upset.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I just, that's upsetting. I just sent you, I just sent it to you. What did you send to me? My PayPal. So send it to him. I don't have my phone with me. What? I mean, what is the deal?
Starting point is 00:58:33 I've got a PayPal. Do you leave your phone in the car? No, it's over there charging. Oh. I mean, this is my PayPal. What if you have to text somebody during the podcast? Just copy and, you can't have copy and paste the link in there? He didn't send it to me.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Send it to me? I'm trying to. Give me your phone number. Write your phone number down. Tell it on the chat. Okay. Okay. So that's, you know.
Starting point is 00:58:54 727, 69. 6. Beep, beep. 420. Matt. 688. 0493. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:05 So. That's a throwback. Okay. Oh, I was on, oh, yeah, you're right. Now you're going to type it. Pal. You know, if I typed it. So what else did you do when you're out in, uh, California?
Starting point is 00:59:14 But the homeless population in, in, in California is out of fucking control. I hear it's out of fucking control. Yeah, because they change the laws. Now they can actually keep all their luggage out in the streets. It's ridiculous. Look, somebody told me, and I don't know if this is true, but this is what the guy told me, that they don't, they'll arrest you. Like, if you steal and it's under $500, they'll arrest them.
Starting point is 00:59:32 They take them downtown, they process them, they release them. So the, every place you go to downtown has an armed guard. Well, no, they weren't armed. If you steal and it's under $500. They don't prosecute you. They arrest you, take you downtown. They print you and book you and let you right back out. So every place downtown has a
Starting point is 00:59:51 They all have Guards They all have security guards I went to a weed shop on Melrose And there's this like Seven foot dude with his giant fucking He had like a full-sized Glock on his hip And it looked like
Starting point is 01:00:05 Homeless people everywhere Oh man That's a lot of soches out there sitting on the sidewall Oh I'm telling you I mean It's a That's a soch galore It's a buffet
Starting point is 01:00:16 That's a Sosh buffet. I mean, this guy figured it out. Yeah, he sent $1.99. No, he said $25. 25 bucks. $25. $25.000. Sign a book for him. Kyle Roberts. Kyle Roberts paid you $25. He's five bucks shorter again.
Starting point is 01:00:31 He's signed a book. Came through. He almost got something. Kyle's all right. Sign a book for him. I mean, I'm going to. He's going to go AWOL if you don't. No, go right now on the podcast. Yeah, sign it on the camera. What if you want something about it? You want to see you do it on the camera so people can see what they get. Give the people what they want.
Starting point is 01:00:47 What it, the people, that's Danny. I'm saying, what if he wants something special? What if he says, hey, say this. Just make it up. Say, hey, Kyle. Kyle, what do you want him to say? What do you want me to say, bro? Yeah, two fucking, what do we call?
Starting point is 01:01:01 Hold on. Hey, what? What do we used to call Kyle? Fowl? No, that was sad. Hey, wait a minute. Does Kyle want its insanity or does he want? He wants its insanity.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Of course. That's what this podcast is all about. It's insanity. Oh, somebody just, dropped a hundred bucks. Woo! The doctor. The doctor?
Starting point is 01:01:21 Oh my God. Matt, your groupies are blowing it up. The doctor is awesome. He's the guy who bought the painting. Did they actually donate it or did they send it with PayPal? Super chat. Super chat, Honda.
Starting point is 01:01:29 We got a Honda. We got a hando, man. Kissing goodbye. Sorry, the doctor. Thanks a lot. Doc. He just gave him honor box. Don't refund it.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Please, Doc. We appreciate your support. Yeah. No, he's good. Keeping the nightmare alive. Matt, or, he was a special drawing.
Starting point is 01:01:46 We went skydiving. We went skydiving. Yeah. As a matter of fact, if you go to my channel right now, I'll release my skydiving video. I got a skydiving video. You're going to release it right now exclusively for our viewers? Sure. Why not?
Starting point is 01:02:03 It's Matt Cox and Inside True Crime. Subscribe. I'm going to do it right now. I'm going to release the skydiving video. That's a good idea. That's a great idea. It's a little exclusive bonus. You don't even have to pay.
Starting point is 01:02:18 You don't even have to knock. But where's my few videos? I'm going into my, my, uh, you don't even have to knock. This fisting ham and an ashtray. Full of pudding. Oh man, this is, this is, hold on. Chocolate pudding.
Starting point is 01:02:41 All right, let's see. Unlist, public, save. Unreal. Wow. Shitbird. The liquor's talking. Oh, look at him.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Matt Cox going skydiving with a mask on. Damn. Did you have to wear a mask when you were skydiving? Nice. No, just in the plane up. You know, you take it off, obviously. Bro, that's the worst. When you go right up to that door and then do, you know what the worst is?
Starting point is 01:03:21 You just got another $5 PayPal. You know what the worst is? From Kyle Roberts. He sent you five. extra. Fuck yeah. He said he let the message in the chat in the thing. You know what the worst is?
Starting point is 01:03:30 The worst is watching the guy in front of you jump. Because you see him go, woo, just he's gone and you're like, yeah, and then you just jumped out of a plane. I have no desire to go skydive. Are you serious?
Starting point is 01:03:43 It's great. Look at that, bro. No, it looks fine. It looks cool. Listen, I went with the doctor. The doctor's got his own stuff,
Starting point is 01:03:51 his own shoot. He's, he's jumped like a cup. I think he's, Jump like 30 or 40 and 50 times. Do you think the doctor could give you hair implants while skydiving? Oh my God. I mean, did you imagine doing a hair implant operation while skydiving?
Starting point is 01:04:04 But they're so sturdy, they don't come out while you're skydiving. You want subscribers, Matt? Yeah. There you go. Make that shit happen. All right. You're all right, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:14 So what did Kyle say? He said he left it in the PayPal message. He wants a special message. Special message. What? Who wants Matt to go skydiving while getting a hair implant from the doctor? He did he just put, okay. That's pricey.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I mean, that's, that's seven grand for the hair, a couple hundred for the plane jump. I mean, you're talking eight grand now. Easy eight grand. And then you've got to pay us, like a couple of... We got to film it. Yeah. You guys are something else, man. The hell.
Starting point is 01:04:42 That's all a 10. Does anybody... Is your probation officer know you went skydiving? What's the jurisdiction up there? I'm still in the middle district. I'm pretty sure. So if you went like 50 miles offshore out into the international waters, would you be allowed to hang out with Amadeo or hang out with other felons?
Starting point is 01:05:04 I'm not allowed to hang out with felons. Yeah, but if you're in international waters, are you allowed to? He's probably not even allowed to go out there. He's saying, he's saying, well, I don't see what I'm supposed to. Let me see it. There's no message. Let me see it, Matt Cox. Not allowed in international waters?
Starting point is 01:05:18 First of all, I'm not allowed to leave the county. Oh, he just sent you his address. I mean, you're leaving the state at that point. You're like in the nation. Yeah. Yeah. So that's his address. Let's write him a nice little note.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Draw him a little picture. So. Another Honda from the doc. We're going to do two. Another Honda? Another Honda. I know it's not to him. Doc.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Thank you, Doc. $200 to the blimp. Says the doctor comes through for Matt Cox. What are you doing? Stop sending money to him. The doc. You're sending money to him. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:05:51 You made five grand the last podcast. This guy is loaded. Now you're telling everybody not to send money to me. It's not sending the money to you. You are sending it to me. I think he knows how to send it to you, Matt. He sent you like $4,000 the last podcast. He did not.
Starting point is 01:06:08 You stop saying that. You keep raising the figure too. How much money did you make the last podcast we did? Honestly, I don't recall. It was so much he couldn't count. There was a comma in the number. Okay, that's all that matters. So I'm going to two.
Starting point is 01:06:20 There's a comma. Kyle. Two Kyle. You cocks sucker. I go. Call him a cocksucker. From. Your partner in crime.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Ooh. Secret. I want my book sign to. He said he wants a picture of Danny with a micro penis and a rat face. Who said that? Kyle. Most wanted. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Give him all the cheese. Yeah. Is there a... Hold on, Matt. After you sign this, I got a question for you. I have a really important question. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:06:58 What's the difference between a snitch and a rat? What the fuck? Is this a plan question? What is the difference? I don't know. What did Morgan Freeman say? It doesn't matter what Morgan Freeman said. I only care about what Matt Cox says.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Snitch and a rat. I don't think there's a difference at all. Really? Yeah. I don't see a difference at all. Why? Didn't you say you went in a podcast in L.A. And you got you got a, you got a,
Starting point is 01:07:24 You got in a really fresh heated argument. It actually wasn't a heated argument because... But it was awkward? What was it? What would you call it? It was awkward because the guy was 300 or 290 pounds and probably close to 6 foot tall. And he was extremely animated and it could have gone bad. Could have gone bad for me. But it didn't.
Starting point is 01:07:48 So what happened? He got upset. Oh, he got super upset. I mean, he told me he knew of my story. I know your story, I know your story And you admit it That you were a snitch Yeah, I fucking ran it out of everybody
Starting point is 01:08:00 I fucking could think of the fucking get out of it You cut to use your words You said you cut everybody's throat you could Everybody's thought I could Yeah Could give a shit Fuck them What was that quote that you said
Starting point is 01:08:11 Fuck him? What? Was it the guy The general Whatever What's his name? Who Amadeo? Yeah
Starting point is 01:08:19 It was a quote in the book Oh yeah Yeah Oh Be polite Thrax the whole billion. No, be polite, be professional, and have a plan to kill everyone you meet. Nice.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Wow. That's General James Mad Dog Mattis. James Mattis. How do I know that name? He was in front of Congress a few times. He was running, I think he was the military, he was the general who was running, I want to say, Afghanistan during the surge. I believe I could be wrong. He looks like a green rectangle covered in metals whenever you see him on TV.
Starting point is 01:08:52 A green rectangle. He's got some great. You know that Kanye? No, there's like Army suit. It's so square. Like the Roblox? He looks like Kanye West and Bill Pump in that video. I love it video.
Starting point is 01:09:03 I love it video. But like in military fatigues because he has so many metals, they had to expand the jacket for him. Jesus. What are you reading right now? Matt's, okay, for people listening that aren't watching, Matt's on his phone just scrolling. And he's saying things like,
Starting point is 01:09:22 I'm saying there's just a bunch of, I got a bunch of in the last three. three minutes, four minutes. I've got a bunch of, uh... Paypal's? No. I don't know. I wish. Going through his YouTube comments. Yeah, just comments. Just comments. Good comments? That's cool, Cox. I used to... I used to be a retail scammer.
Starting point is 01:09:37 The doctor's coming through again. Another hundo. Another hundo of the doctor! He said he sent you a buck fifty. I love the doctor. What does the doctor do? Why is he out of here splurgeon? Is he actually a doctor? Um, Matt Cox What Matt Cox Becomes Marcus Shrinker?
Starting point is 01:09:55 I don't know what that one is. He's calling you a liar. Wasn't there another comment too that you said was really interesting about your feet and shoes and what you think people. Okay, so let's hear back to the snitch rat question. Why? Do you think it's going to bring in some viewers?
Starting point is 01:10:09 What is it? I think it's interesting. I want to know, so how did it go? You said the guy was really animated. He was really intimidating. Why was he so upset? He was upset because he's a pen guy, right? So he robbed the bank.
Starting point is 01:10:20 So the problem Who robbed a bank? The guy who's hosting this podcast that you were on? Yes. Okay. And he's like an ex-con podcasting, doing a true crime podcast or something. Yeah, he does.
Starting point is 01:10:32 It's supposed to be fresh. It's like you're fresh out of prison. And it's like, what are you doing now? Okay, got it. So he says, you know, okay, so what did you do? And he said, look, you know, you talk for about 15, 20 minutes about what you did. And we'll talk about what you did in prison and what you're doing now.
Starting point is 01:10:47 I was like, all right, it's cool. So we start talking. We talk about, I said, say, okay, so here's what, you know, here's what got me into prison or got me locked up. I started going through the whole motions. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. He's like, all right, all right. And then we get to the point where I say, okay, and then I got arrested.
Starting point is 01:11:01 They're basically going to give me 154 years. They're saying if they stack it, they can give me 154. But that probably wouldn't happen. I'd probably end up if I went to trial and lose, I get probably 32 years. I said, well, I mean, I said, I'm not fucking doing 32 years. I said, so my, my U.S. attorneys, or my public defender says, you know, or you can cooperate, everybody's already cooperated against you this is just how it works you know this is what's going on and i was like okay i was like what do you what what and oh you just got to be interviewed by him i said okay cool i'll be
Starting point is 01:11:29 interviewed so at that point he's like he gives me the look well you're a snitch at that point yeah well now he's realized because you agreed to cooperate yeah he's like uh yeah and i went so i and i realized that's when i realize oh you don't really know my stuff you've you've never really seen my story. Right, right, right. You're saying you have, but you haven't. And then I'm like... He just saw the views.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Yeah, he maybe watched 20 minutes or something, but he didn't see it. And I realize, I've seen all the guys you've interviewed, you know? Yeah. And I know that the guys that he's interviewed, if they cooperated, they skate right over it. Does that make sense? Yes. He doesn't like talk about that. No, of course, you're not going to say it.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Who's going to say that? Right. These guys aren't going to say that. They went to a pin or they went to a medium and they're, you know, I sold this minute. You know, if you start doing the math, it doesn't really matter. I got caught with this minute. It's kilos and this many and this and this and this and this and this, all these guys and this and this and this and yes. So I did 10 years.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You did 10 years. Yeah. That's a fucking life sentence. But they never, he never goes into any of that. It's never. So I say, so boom, I cooperate. And I said, but then I don't.
Starting point is 01:12:42 There's a huge ingredient. It has to go into that cocktail to make it be 10 years. Right. And so he sits there and he goes. well, it gives me this look. And I went, oh, I said, oh, I said, that's right. Nobody really says that, do they? They don't admit that.
Starting point is 01:12:56 Yeah. And he's like, you know, he's kind of like, well, I just don't believe in that. And I went, no, I understand. I said, well, yeah, because I didn't tell on nobody. I said, no, I understand. I said, well, you're unique. So, and I keep trying. I try to, let's just, you know, like, okay, let's just keep going.
Starting point is 01:13:11 And he keeps coming back to it. So you, you, you told on people? Yeah, yeah. I'm like, yeah, everybody told on me. I said, I mean, that's just the way it is. That's what everybody, everybody's fucking ratting on each, everybody. Oh, I wouldn't tell a nobody. I wouldn't tell a nobody.
Starting point is 01:13:27 I'm like, yeah, I understand, but you're unique and you're going to a pen, and you're not looking at 26 years. You're a guy from the street. You're going to a pen. You say something. You might get killed. They're not sending me to a pen. I can't go to a pen.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Because he's like, man, if you went to the pen, I go, yeah, but I didn't. Because I can't go to a pen. Because the truth is, is that they don't send people like, me to a pin. Right. I'm, I go, and then I said, I go,
Starting point is 01:13:53 bro, I'm a soft white guy. They're not going to send me to the pin. And then he was like, because these guys couldn't dare admit that they're soft. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:00 And it's all about just pure anger and toughness and no weakness. And this is a guy who he tells kids. Part of it is, well, what would you tell kids? And so he ends up saying to me, what would you tell kids?
Starting point is 01:14:12 And I went, I tell them not to commit crime. And he's, yeah, but I'm saying if they get caught, I went, don't commit crime. You won't get.
Starting point is 01:14:20 caught. You're telling me if they did, you're telling me if they did commit crime, you're saying, read my super chats. Who? The doctor. He wants to know how much has the doctor contributed to the Cox Fund altogether in the last three months. It's not, the Cox Fund? The doctor wants to know how much he's contributed? That's what he said. Yeah, I don't, I don't know. It's significant. He bought me, I've got a computer, he's helped me with a computer, he's helped me with a camera equipment. Wow. He's, uh, he's, yeah, the doctor's awesome.
Starting point is 01:14:54 The doctor's awesome. Shout out to the doctor. We, we went skydiving. Shout out to the doc. Heck yeah, we went to, uh, dinner a few times. I want to know, what kind of doctor is he? You know? I mean, come on.
Starting point is 01:15:07 It can't take that long. He's probably the kind of doctor that has a billboard. No, he's not. Definitely not. What kind of doctor is he, Matt? I know you know. I mean, you know, I, I don't know what kind of doctor is. Never asked in that?
Starting point is 01:15:19 I mean, you know, I, you know what? Listen, what am I supposed to say? Dr. Feel Good? I mean, I could ask him what kind of doctor? No, I mean, I just thought you fucking knew. No. I do. What kind of doctor, question mark?
Starting point is 01:15:36 Read my super chats. So, anyway. What if he's a plastic surgeon? And you never asked him what he is. Or he does hair transplants. Because we would have come up. Hmm. Because we talked about the hair.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Maybe that's why he's giving you all this money to like seed that idea. Seed that idea. Let me go just like spend this money back on. the doctor in a little bit more. Huh? Like he does hair transplants. No, he doesn't do it. So he's giving you this money.
Starting point is 01:16:00 So you're going to go spend it back on him. No, that wouldn't make any sense. I don't understand. I don't understand that logic. It makes perfect sense. He's trying to recoup. When you think about it. You're trying to recoup?
Starting point is 01:16:14 Do you message you back yet? No. The doctor. No, he's probably playing with his kids or on the computer. He's in the chat. He's in the chat. Watching the podcast. So why didn't you ask him what kind of doctor?
Starting point is 01:16:26 He's throwing money at you like you work at Mon's Venus. I'll show you. You throw me in a... You put enough money in it. I will. People really want you to eat shit tonight. Huh? People want you to eat Danny's poop.
Starting point is 01:16:38 That's what people are saying? That's been the main topic of the chat. It's amazing how disgusting these fuckers are and cruel and mean. It's not amazing. They say horrible things. They want to see it. They want all the action, but they don't want to pay for it. That's not action.
Starting point is 01:16:52 that's disgusting. Depends on who you ask. The internet's a weird place. Man. Fucking place got weird when I was going. What the fuck happened? What were we just talking about? I fucking forgot.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Oh yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. It was getting weird. The guy was like, why would you admit to being a rat or being a soft white guy? Yeah, he's going on. No, he didn't actually say that. He just keeps going and going and going. He just keeps, you know, and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:17:22 Okay, well, you know, clearly we're cut from a different cloth. So I said, so anyway, and I'm like, do you want to keep talking about this? He's like, no, what I'm saying is this and this and he's going on. You know, I'm saying you with this, you with that. I'm like, yeah. So you're saying you're going to get caught. He goes, you're going to get caught. You get caught doing something.
Starting point is 01:17:42 No, first he said, it's your duty as a soldier or something along those lines. And I was like, soldier. He's, yeah, like, if you're a soldier and you get caught and they talk. and they torture you, you got to hold out so you don't tell on your platoon. And I went, am I a soldier in this? I'm not a soldier. Have you ever seen the movie Batman?
Starting point is 01:18:03 You ever heard of the Joker? Yeah, I'm not. That's me. I'm not holding. I'm taking socies. I don't know about soldiers. I mean, I just, it always kills me these guys that are selling crack in the,
Starting point is 01:18:18 they're selling crack in the park, you know, to pregnant women. and then they get caught and you think that this guy's not going to tell on you or he's going to hold strong, nobody should tell on me. You're just a scumbag, bro. You're selling fucking crack. And you're selling crack or you're kicking in people's doors or you're committing fraud or you're doing scams and you get caught
Starting point is 01:18:42 and now you have principles. You're just a scumbag or someone else gets caught with you. Now you decide to stand your ground on something. Now I'm going to, you got to, don't tell on me. I won't tell on you. Are you serious? That's the line. You're fucking ripping off little old ladies pension funds.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Yeah. What are you talking about? Yeah, but we're bros. Bros. Your bro's gonna fuck your, there's no streetcoat. Your bro's gonna fuck your girl when you're gone and take all your shit. That's what's gonna happen.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Taking your PlayStation. Right. And that's not, you know. So I'm, and I remember I said, I go, so I'm supposed to go to prison for 26 years? And he was like, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, I'm not going to prison for 26 years. I'm not doing it. They're playing Fortnite on your account on your couch.
Starting point is 01:19:24 His feet on your table. He's spending all your V-bucks. I know a guy. I know a guy that got out of prison and told the guy to go to his, go to my wife. He actually sets the guy up. Like, you can stay. I talk to my wife. She'll let you stay in like the spare room until you get a job and get this and get that.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Listen, two months later, he calls, he calls. He calls and the wife says, don't call anymore. I'm with so-and-so now. The guy you set up in prison that your wife's going to help out, that you're going to help out. Your wife's been running with you for four or five years. Now he's fucking your wife. This is your buddy. That's what they're all scumbags.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Now, if you're a guy, if you're a guy and you're a stand-up guy and you go to a pen, now I can understand you telling me I didn't say anything, not because I'm a good guy because you're not. But I didn't say anything because I was afraid that when I went to the, to the pen, they might kill me if I showed up with paperwork that said I snitched on everybody. Okay, I got it. I understand. You're going to a pen.
Starting point is 01:20:28 You can't say anything. You know what it's like. You're going to a California pen. You're just fucking done. I'll take the fucking 10 years. But the difference is that it's that or my family's in danger. I know that these guys will kill my family because I know they've killed my family before. But guess what?
Starting point is 01:20:45 That's not me. Danny's, if I fucking told on Danny, he ain't killing nobody. Danny's not going to bust a great. The worst Danny's going to do is sue me. He's right. And that's it. No, but I have a few people I could pay some money to that would really not make your life very pleasant. I mean, and I have a really good friend.
Starting point is 01:21:06 He said he's a 500 bucks who would burn your house down. What? A neurosurgeon. He's a neurosurgeon. A neurosurgeon. What? He's a brain surgeon? I mean, I guess it's that's what he says.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Holy shit. Nobody's got so much damn money. I don't believe it. Prove it. Listen, he's got like, listen, he... If he could do brain surgery, he could do your hair transplant. That's for... That's true.
Starting point is 01:21:31 His wife's car is like $150,000. Was it like a Land Rover or something or a range rover or something? It was his wife's car. Wow. What's he driving? I don't know. It was like in the shop or something. I forget.
Starting point is 01:21:46 He's like, his wife's in a shop. He's like a rari's in the shop. It's always in the shop. So, yeah. So, yeah, that podcast did not go well. He was disgusted by me. This really broke my heart, too, because I thought we were going to be friends. But then he left, and when they were leaving, when he was leaving in a cameraman, the cameraman, the cameraman couldn't stop smiling.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Where did you guys filming that? In my hotel room. Your hotel room. Yeah, in downtown. It was the, was I saying the Hilton? Hilton. Hilton. Checkers.
Starting point is 01:22:16 No. Hilton checkers in downtown. It was really nice hotel. So we do the whole thing. They gather all their stuff up. They go to leave. And when they're leaving, this cameraman, he never, he couldn't stop smiling. Like he was just, he, this guy, and I kept saying, I go, boy, you're really upset about this.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Well, I don't believe in that. I don't believe in that. But you know, it happens. Even after you stopped rolling as we're still talking about this? Oh, yeah, he stood up. He's packing up his stuff. I go, you really seem upset. I said it like five times during the time.
Starting point is 01:22:46 You really seem upset by this. Well, I just, I just this. I just don't feel. Right, I would not do that. I wouldn't do. So I understand. I understand. And he's like, you know, and even, here's the problem is that when we were on film and we were arguing, we weren't really arguing because there was, he was so animated.
Starting point is 01:23:00 I thought, there's a good chance this guy fucking swings on me. And let me, let me be perfectly clear. If he had swung on me, I wouldn't have survived it. I mean, this is a big fucking guy. You'd been calling the neuro doctor. He couldn't have helped. The doctor couldn't have helped. I mean, so.
Starting point is 01:23:19 I'm sitting there. So he's making these ridiculous, giving me these ridiculous scenarios. What's the doctor saying? What do you say? He said you're an asshole for not telling me you were going to be on the podcast. Yeah, why would you tell him?
Starting point is 01:23:34 I didn't tell him because, well, I don't have to fucking tell him this. I can tell him right now. I didn't say anything because I, why didn't I? You told me yesterday. Yes. I literally forgot.
Starting point is 01:23:44 I told you Monday, I think. I forgot until earlier. I think Monday we decided to do this. I got to do like, I think Monday we decided to do this. Huh? I think Monday we decided to do this.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Monday or Tuesday. I believe it was Monday night. Well, he knows. He obviously has the notification. I forgot. He's a busy guy. He's flying to L.A. and shit. He's on Vice now.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Oh, you're on Vice now. Tell everybody how you did a fucking documentary for Vice. It wasn't documentary. I'm an expert scammer. Yeah, you are. On Vice. It's like the John Madden of scamming. So I'm one of the, listen, it was, that was a pretty bad shoot.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Like, I mean, they have me doing all kinds of like, okay, can you go? Would you mind looking out the windows? and I'm like, like, through the blinds and I go, like some kind of peeper. Well, like, and I, you know, like just some, yeah, B-roll. Oh, they're the king of B-roll. I said, I'll be a peeper. Let's do this.
Starting point is 01:24:30 They did a documentary on Lanny Pafo, and he was telling me that they spent like two full days shooting B-roll. Like him walking through the park, sitting on the bench, feeding pigeons. You don't understand. They told me these things are like three or four minutes long. They're like, you're literally only going to be on camera for a minute or two on three different episodes. took six hours. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 01:24:55 That's a professional. So listen, when the cameraman's leaving, right? Matching cameras. Thank you, Doc. Hey, can your doc? Can he install the, can he install the neural? I thought you had to watch fucking a game or something at 9. You got to watch TV.
Starting point is 01:25:08 No, we got the NBA, the last game of the season, the NBA finals. Boy, I'm animated. What am I doing? LeBron James versus the Miami Heat. I'm all like fucking waving my arms and. Are you watching yourself? I just saw myself waving my arm. Get out of your head.
Starting point is 01:25:25 I forget what I was going to say. You're just so in love with yourself. It's like when you look at yourself. What the fuck is this? Sky, why? It's Matt. Huh? Are you serious?
Starting point is 01:25:36 What is this? All right. Should we wrap this up? By the insanity. By its insanity. This was the shortest Matt Pox. Matt Cox. Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Podcast in history. Oh, the Pervin's kicking in, kids. Tell you. What? Oh, check. Oh, okay. Everybody, thank you. Matt Cox's PayPal is Matt Cox 69 at gmail.com.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Matt Cox 69. You can contribute to his hairline. He needs $7,000 for his neck surgery. Even though I think that hairline looks pretty good, it looks pretty solid to me. That's decent. Very decent. I think it's better than my hairline. Definitely better than mine.
Starting point is 01:26:17 I've never seen a hair out of place on. on that beautiful head of yours. That's what 7K gets you. The tan even goes into the hair. The two of you. You guys are all three of you guys. Because normally like when you get, you know,
Starting point is 01:26:28 like you get a really close fade. Sometimes it's like white. Oh yeah. Yeah. Like your tan goes all the way into your hair. Yeah. How do you get that tan so perfect? And like in your hair.
Starting point is 01:26:38 You dye, your dye your hair? Your scalp is tan. So are you 24-7 when you're out in public? Is your hair slicked back like that all the time whenever you go out? I mean, I don't even know it was slicked back.
Starting point is 01:26:48 I just put. You clearly jelled it back. You don't wear a hat when you pay for hair. No, I don't wear a hat. I wear a hat because this is like a luxury. It's a, you know, it's just there. Like, but if you pay for it. Well, you're so young and you have all your hair.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Yeah, I have. You have a sick head of hair. How do you think his, how do you grade his hairline? Oh, it's, it's amazing. He could, you, listen. Your hair line, his hairline is, is farther back than yours. What, he's got a good hairline. He's got a good hairline.
Starting point is 01:27:14 He can use a touch-up. Yeah. How do you think? A little. A little scruffy. Do you think he needs a surgery? Not on the hairline, but maybe on the nose and the teeth.
Starting point is 01:27:26 This would be wasted money up here. It's a bad investment. Kind of wait and see if it starts to... No, but how do you get the tan? How do you get the tan so easy? I didn't even think I'm tan. Am I tan? No, like he was talking about how the tan
Starting point is 01:27:37 perfectly hits the hairline. It even goes past the hairline. It blends. Probably because it's so thin, the sun hits my scalp. Mm. Science. Science.
Starting point is 01:27:48 It's crazy. The solar, the solar flares. The UV penetrates the hair transplants and hits the scalp perfectly. Activates it. Activates it. Oh, my God. All right.
Starting point is 01:28:03 I think we've had enough. Yeah. Well, you've got to go. The game's starting. Who's winning? It hasn't even started. Well, who's going to win? The heat.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Is that who you want to win? Mm-hmm. You want the heat to win? I only want the heat to win. because I bet him 20 bucks the heat would win. And I really like Jimmy Jesus. Jimmy Jesus. Jimmy buckets, aka Jimmy Jesus.
Starting point is 01:28:31 They're the underdog, and I think they can come back three to one like LeBron did versus the Gold State Warriors in 2016. But I think LeBron's, my head's saying LeBron's going to win, my heart's saying heat, please win. We'll see. Some turmoil. But I'll probably lose 20 bucks, but thank God the neurodoctor, donated about five hondo yeah thanks for the chicken fingers tonight
Starting point is 01:28:52 yeah thanks doc we're eating chicken fingers it's going to help pay for matt cox's dinner because i always pay for matt cox's dinner at the podcast matt cox any last words uh buy a book and sign and subscribe to my channel matt cox and uh inside true crime books on amazon books on amazon danny's going to put the put it in the link yep put the link for the but in the description fuck god bro i'm so tired shark in the housing pool Oh my god I know
Starting point is 01:29:21 Hold it up Hold it up so they can see it Shark in the housing pool You just threw it Shark in the housing pool And it's insanity Boom Who just did this
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