Danny Jones Podcast - #73 - America’s Most Notorious Jewel Thief | Larry Lawton

Episode Date: January 26, 2021

Larry Lawton is originally from the Bronx which is where he got his start in organized crime at the age of 12. From there he went to become known as the most notorious jewel robber in the history of the United States. Larry robbed more than $15 million of jewels until he was eventually tracked down by the FBI and hit with four 12 year sentences.  Once he was finally released, Larry reformed his ways and now helps and inspires younger people stay out of prison and change their life path. He also started his own YouTube channel last year which already has over a million subscribers. Larry's Channel: http://youtube.com/LarryLawtonJewelThief Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Larry is originally from the Bronx, which is where he got his start and organized crime at the age of 12. From there, he went to become known as the most notorious jewel robber in the history of the United States. He robbed over 15, I think it's $15 or $20 million worth of jewels until he was eventually tracked down by the FBI

and hit with four 12-year sentences. Once he was finally released from prison, Larry reformed his ways, and now he helps and inspires young people. to stay out of prison and change their life path. It's also worth mentioning he started his own YouTube channel last year, which now already has over 1 million subscribers. Larry has been through a lot of crazy, scary shit,

which we get into on this one. This has got to be one of the most fun conversations I've had on this podcast. Please welcome Larry Lawton. All right, we're alive. Larry Lawton. Thanks for coming, man. Anytime, man. That RV you got is pretty sick.

Lot better than the other one that went on fire. Which is pretty cool. I mean, if anybody goes to my channel, they'll see the fire. I put a video about the fire. Everyone thought I burned it down because you know I burned my pizzeria now. For the insurance money? Well, back in the day, when I was a gangster, I burned the whole fucking plaza down. What?

Why did you do that? Well, I was making more money in diamonds than pizza. I said, fuck this shit. And I burned it down. I was going to get insurance, but they ended up not paying. And they investigated me and all that, but they didn't get it, you know. people who know my background know that I was pretty wild back in the day so for people on on this show who aren't familiar with your background

give them give them a little bit of the story you're basically you're one of like the country's most notorious diamond thieves well you know that we put thief because it was a word that that's actually better searched I was the biggest jewel robber in the country still I'm known as the biggest jewel robber in the country I robbed 15 to 18 million. I was hooked up with organized crime. I wouldn't tell on anybody.

I ended up going to prison for four 12-year sentences. And people ask, oh, why did you go for four sentences? Because if I win one on an appeal, I still got to do the time. That's why people go, why does the guy get three life sentence? He can't die three times? No, but if he wins one of those life sentences on appeal, he's still got life. So that's how they do that. but I ended up going away in 1996

and I didn't get out until 2007. You guys were all young. Yeah. And your sound guy and your guy, he was still in diapers, yeah. Actually, when I went to prison, he was even born. No, he wasn't because my daughter was only 18 months and she was born in 95.

And I ended up, I have a great relationship with my kids. But my son was six. I got out and he was 18. And my daughter was 15 months old and I got out. He was 13 years old. So, I mean, that's why I do what I do to try to help people and stuff like that, you know. But I was a bad guy. I don't fucking, you know, try to sugarcoat that.

I was, you didn't want to run across me back to my day. I would lay people's arms on curbs and snap them. Jesus Christ. I was the kind of guy you didn't want it. But I didn't hurt civilians. We called it civilians. Okay. Only people in the business.

Yeah. If you were a drug dealer, you were a bookie, you wanted to be a criminal. You didn't want to fucking run across me. It was that. That's the way I was. Now, of course, you know, as you know me, and I help a lot of people. I, a lot of people say, oh, you know, you only started YouTube a year ago. And it's true.

You only started doing YouTube a year ago. Year ago. And you have over a million subscribers on your channel. Your channel's huge. You do all kinds of really cool videos. And we're actually trying new things, expanding new things. We have now, obviously, the podcast and the TikTok and everything. Everything else.

Yeah, you're killing it, man. But what we did, you know, and we're trying new things. You know, we got a great manager and Peter and a great team with my son and Darian and Teresa. Everybody who's there, we want to try new things. So that's why I try to tell me, try it. It might work. We tried gaming.

What the fuck does Larry know about gaming? You know, I didn't grow up with gaming. Yeah. But what I did was guys wanted it. My audience wanted it. The followers wanted it, and we expanded. And I got into gaming. I mean, I play it.

I'm not good at it by any stretching imagination. But, you know, we wanted to try different things. But I didn't start what I do a year ago. When I got out of prison, I started reality check. And it's a great story on how I started the whole program. I got out of prison after doing 12 years. Okay. 11 straight years.

Where did you do your time at? Maximum Security Prison. Maximum security. Yeah, I was in Atlanta, USP Atlanta. And when I was in Edgefield, I was strapped down naked, beaten and tortured by guards and pissed on and spit on by guards. Because I was fighting the abuses of the prison system. Our prison system is broke. Oh, for sure.

Yeah, and let me tell you. It's the worst fucking prison system in the free world. And people go, what do you mean? I'm not talking about third world cons. I'm talking about France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Canada. United States is the worst prison system in the free world. And it's known. And the most people in.

Oh, by, by numbers that are, we have more people incarcerated than fucking China. Per capita. More people. Not even per capita. Oh, straight numbers. Really? They got one point fucking three billion people and we have more prisoners than them. Jesus.

It's just sick. Well, they just straight up, they just straight up execute people. Uh-uh. Everybody says that. And that's not true. No, it's not true. Really? What happens is they actually have a higher suicide rate.

because they dishonor their family and they'll have suicides or they have different ways they do certain things so everybody's thinking oh they just kill them and these kids and that's not true I don't know how Iran works

or North Korea works but as far as the pre-war but I was in prison from 96 to 2007 and I was on Conair 16 times that fucking movie Did you ever see Nick Cage? Yeah no he wasn't wasn't on there with me.

Damn it. I actually saw Lou Pearlman. Remember the Backstreet Boys and all that? Yeah, he was the founder of the Backstreet Boys and Insink and all that. Okay, okay. Fat fuck stole that money from them. And I, when he was on a plane, he was, he was, I was getting off a plane, the plane, the plane. And he was getting on it sort of have you off to the sides.

And I saw him and I said, they're going to fuck you, Lou, fuck you. And I was yelling at him and I'm getting yelled at him. I'm getting yelled at and all that shit. Oh, my God. He was like all fucking scared. So what were you doing? You said you were fighting the system when you were inside this way. You got pissed on and you got your ass beat by prison guards.

What were you doing? Well, you know, the prison system killed three of my friends. Literally killed three of my friends. One guy had a medical issue and he was having chest pains, his arms hurt, and goes to medical. They said, get out of here. He ends up going to work. In prison, you work. You work.

People think you don't work. You work. So he works for what they call CMS, which is like they maintain the prison, you know, like the plumbers and this. It's called CMS. Yeah.

So he works with CMS. The guy who works for, a guard tells him, hey, get to medical. You look terrible. This guy, James Archie, a good friend of mine, lived three cells from me.

I used to play horseshoes. Believe me, they had horseshoes. Wow. They took them all the fucking yard quick. Anyway, he goes in there and, uh, they said,

get out of here. You got Maylock. You got, here's Maylock, you got gas. He walks into the unit. He looks at myself, another guy named Jimmy Brown. We're looking at TV sets. He walks in the unit, and he goes, man, I'm dying. We look at him.

He's pale. He sits down. He kills over. We put him in a chair. He keels over and dies right in front of us. Leaving the medical. Dies. Now, I don't know if you ever saw a man die.

I've seen many people die. The first thing that happens is they, they, whatever's in them comes out with the shit all over themselves yeah shit you know it's just there's no nerves holding it and whatever it is so he died and uh way they're yelling lock down lockdown lock down you got to run in your cell and all that shit and when they picked him up they come with a golf cart down to the unit they picked it they were la let now my cell was about three cells from the main door on the on the bottom floor and i'm looking out we have windows this big they're fucking they're not real windows you know what you

couldn't fit for him, you know. Even you couldn't. You're a good-shaped guy like you. Not no fat fuck like me getting to get through that. And they were laughing. They thought it was a joke. And they came to every cell in the prison. And they said, oh, you saw him hit his head.

I said, fuck you. You killed him. I go off on them. Boom, they throw me in the hole for 11 straight months. I was in the hole for three years out of my 11. In the hole. Is that the same? is the shoe the shoe special housing unit whole special housing unit as segregation just so basically

you're in a little concrete box by yourself yeah well sometimes you're with somebody else okay most the time you with somebody else it depends on how bad you get how violent you are whatever and you don't get to see the light of day ever well you know it's supposed to they call it give you wreck one hour a day oh okay and when you get wreck it's in a dog cage a literally 10 by 20 cage like a fucking animal. Now, that's when they give you that. They don't always give you that. And they have the greatest line in the world to not give you wreck.

For the safe and orderly running of the institution, no wreck today. Bad in clement weather? No, it's all bullshit. They just don't want to fucking give you wreck. Right. So I've been in there. I was there when they didn't give you a fucking shower or anything for three weeks.

When I tell you, you don't know how bad you smell. You smell yourself. That's how fucking bad you are. No fucking, I mean nothing. I mean, it's just disgusting what they do to people. I mean, our system is fucked up. But I was in the hole for three years. And am I a little fucked up?

Absolutely, I'm fucked up to a degree. I think I came out of it pretty good. I mean, somewhat normal and I think. But, you know, I don't think people, obviously, I believe, rehabilitation. I'm a different man. When I was younger, I was a wild guy. I never, ever say I didn't belong in prison because I was robbing.

I robbed 15, 18 million. I was hooked up with organized crime. I was a violent guy. I didn't hurt, like I was telling, I never hurt people who weren't in my business, but that doesn't make it right either. You know, I put fear into people, you're robbing a jewelry. I never hurt somebody during a robbery. Never.

When I robbed the jewelry, store. And I robbed one here in Sarasota. Did you really? Yeah, I robbed all over the fucking state. I'm over 20 something stores. Wow. And the FBI got me. But anyway, as I'm going to prison, I go, listen, I get caught. It was a big deal when I got caught and all that. So it was mainly in Florida? You were robbing? No, no, all up and down East Coast. Okay. I was known as the biggest jewel robber in the country. Still am. That's where I go on TV a lot on those. And I've been doing that since I got out, actually, in prison. But anyway, So I never complained about prison.

Again, I don't believe anybody should be tortured. I don't believe, and I think this should be real rotation. Remember, I went to prison at 34 years old. I got out of 46. Now I'm 59. I'll be 60 this year. I was born in 1961. I know you're looking at me like, you all fuck, Larry.

And so is Ryan, right? He's like, oh. He's like, oh. He says my dad. Yeah, probably. Exactly. Yeah, most of the time when I do interview, you look great, though, man.

They say, is it true they say that most people who go to prisons, especially max prisons, max security prisons, you have, like, God-level immune system. You know what? It's crazy. You might be right about that. You know, a lot of people tell you, hey, Larry, worry about you with your COVID.

I worry about that. I'm not, for whatever reason, I'm not worried. And don't get me wrong, I try to think. I'm not going to go to a concert or some shit like that. But, yeah, I don't get sick much. I don't do things. You eat, listen, you eat fucking garbage. You're around fucking people.

I mean, they have it, and people get sick, and people die all the time in prison. But you're right. I never heard that, but I think it's something to it. Yeah, you're exposed to so much shit. Either you survive or you don't. And when you're exposed to all that shit, it just builds up your immune system and you just become stronger. You know, I do believe there's something to that. You know, I have a bad back.

I have different things, but not like, like that immune system. And trust me, I never had a disease in my life. Right. And how to fuck that happened in life? I have no idea. I was the wildest motherfucking from orgies and this and, you know, you name it. I did it, sexual. How the fuck I got no fucking disease?

I don't know. I really don't. It blows me away. And I never had even the crabs. No? Never the fucking crabs. I was in the military. Damn.

I mean, I was in the military. I'm retired military. Okay. I was in the Coast Guard, and I was actually stationed in Cortez, Florida, which is in Bradenton. Yeah. Braetton, if you know, that's the end of Bradenton and Henry. Matter of fact, listeners know this. I was the first boat on scene when the bridge collapsed in St. Peter's Bridge.

You weren't even around. I didn't. I had those guys on the podcast, two of the rescue divers that pulled all the bodies out of water. I was the first one there. I got newspaper clips and me picking up kids and babies and all the debris. you know, a bus went off. Greyhound bus went off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got picked, I even got the newspaper from 40 years ago, and I actually have that. I'll show it one day. I was the first boat, Coast Guard Station Cortez, which was our area was on this side of the Sunshine Skyway. So we got an alarm, goes off, and it says, you know, a boat hits the bridge. That happened all the time. We go pick a fucking boat starts sinking, and we help. You know, that's what we did, the Coast Guard. uh-uh it was the fucking i think it was the summit venture yep it was a summit venture

hit the bridge and i have pictures of the fucking bridge hanging over the front of the summit venture and it was a car on the thing dangling off the edge well it wasn't dangling it was on it like that it wasn't actually over there was a piece that was like facing downward exactly and i you know and actually when we got there was eerily quiet because it was fog And we look up, holy fuck. And then you see in debris and all this. And of course everything that's called. And it took them 30 days to raise.

No, that was the Blackthorn. I don't know if you know about that. Yep. The Blackthorn was Coast Guard guys. And one of those guys, you know, a guy went to boot camp with. So that Blackburn was a Coastcar buoy tender, 180-foot buoy tender that got hit by the Capricorn.

The Capricorn hits the Coast Coast Guard. guard carter buoy they crisscrossed and the anchor of the capricorn flips the coast guard boat and it went down in 90 seconds and 20 20 or 23 or 25 sailors died really coast guard and they were entombed in there in the boat and they couldn't lift them up until of course their currents and it's very tough I bet the guys on here were divers I tell you the guys that were on here were DOT divers so their job was to inspect all the bridges in Florida. That's what they did. And they were the first guy. They claimed they,

when they first got there, there was one boat. I think they said it was a Coast Guard boat there when they first got there. And then like, Eckerd College sent a bunch of boats out. Oh, we, actually on Anna Marie Island is where they had a they set up a command center. But the Coast Guard ran that whole operation.

Okay. Obviously, anything in the waterways, the Coast Guard runs. And we did all the search and rescue and then the ops. And then even when they were Like doing debris. We had to set up perimeters and all that. Four boats and everybody. I got great paper article.

I still got them. I just looked at them. I have what they call a disaster album. Because I was here for the Coast Guard Bridge, Coast Guard Cutter Blackthorn. Matter of fact, I was just staying on a Skyway bridge, you know, at a rest stop with my RV. And there's a memorial there for the Coast Guard Cut of Blackthorn. Really? And I didn't see it.

It was nighttime. but I'm going to go back there and see it. I saw it, a sign for it. And I do know there was one. Do they move that ship after it sunk? Or do they leave it? No, no, no, no. They lifted it up.

They, you know, that's a channel. It's, there's a, there is a dove. I'm a diver, too. I dove the blackthorn. I think the boat's out there. Oh, they might have put it somewhere else. They might have, yeah. I don't know.

It's not under the bridge for sure. No, no, no, no. It's way offshore. It's a couple miles. Oh, I don't know if they, do you sure it's the blackthorn? I'm almost. I'm 90% positive. I'm going to look that one up because the Blackthorn, obviously, it was, I don't think it is.

I'll tell you why. There were people who died in it. They were entombed in it. I mean, they got them out. They wanted this, but they actually suffocated. They didn't drown. There was an airport talking, but they couldn't get them. Oh, they got the air toxicity?

Well, they died air. Right, right. Obviously, you know. And there were, I think, 13 or 12 sales in the engine room that was sealed. and they actually wrote stuff on the walls of the Blackthorn, like, you know, I love you, hon, or whatever it was. And it was kind of sad because we were picking those guys up, and, you know, when they came up.

And it took 30 days to lift up. The currents and everything are very bad under that bridge. Oh, yeah. And, you know, you're a diver. I've never dove under the skyway. No, you can't. It's not legally allowed to channel, number one. Right.

Have you ever dove down in Keys? Oh, yeah, all the time. Do you ever dive on the, not the Merst, that's Fort Lauderdale? The dauntless? No, I haven't. I haven't done many ship dives. You have to be a master diver or an advanced diver at least than I was. I was a now instructor.

And because the current is so bad if you drop down one side of the ship down the line, and when you're going down, you're looking like a flag. And if you got shit, if you let go of that thing, you're going to pick you up five miles away. They literally, they don't stop anything. and they'll pick you on a sandbar is what happens. Anyway, there's great diving down there, you know. And then you get in the barracuders. Oh, it's insane.

It's insane. I did a lot of diving back when I was in the Coast Guard, especially in Hawaii. Yeah. You know, I don't want a Jap Zero that was out there. You know, then there's what they call the blow holes and stuff. I remember growing up around here, especially, we were always, like, watching jackass. We were big fans like Mani Quig. Mani Pug was always like a champion commercial free diver, and he would, he would,

he would enter these big spearfishing tournaments and win them. And people who were, he was competing against scuba divers and he was free diving. Wow. And, uh, dude, he's a madman. He made me those tridents over there. And now he,

he actually hunts fish with tridents and he kills boars with tridents and shit and gators. Crazy stuff. He's a fucking psycho. The, uh, so do you do a lot of diving still? Yeah. Not,

not as much as I used to, but I do it as much as I can. I do a lot. I mainly do a lot of free diving. Not so much scuba anymore. But, but yeah, I'm always,

yeah. I have a dope. since before I went away. Okay. And it's just timing, and then you're supposed to go get recertified. It's been sold 20 years. Yeah.

Not that, I mean, it's not a big deal, obviously. It doesn't take rocket scientists be a diver. But you've got to know your shit, especially if you're going to go in currents in certain ways. Oh, yeah, for sure. We used to do cave diving, where we would take our tanks off and get through the fucking caves. I couldn't do it anymore.

I became, because of prison, I became claustrophobic. I'm fucking severe claustrophobic. Now, I can see there's light there, so I can get out that window. So I'm all right. Or the door. But I fucking, I mean, it's got,

I can't, like forget an MRI machine. Not even fucking close. They got to knock me out. I mean, literally anesthesia. Yeah, I've almost died cave diving, free diving through caves in the Cayman Islands before. We used to do this thing where we would dive this ship, we would free dive this ship in Grand Cayman

and we would go down the top of the ship was maybe like 20, 10 feet and the bottom was like 50 feet. Wow, that's deep. Free diving? We would free dive and what we would do we would start at the bow and we would work our way through the ship

breathing air pockets. I was just going to ask you how to be air pockets. We would find little air pockets, take a deep breath. Then we'd keep going to find another air pocket. Holy fair. That's pretty crazy. That's fucked up, man. It was stupid. We used to go into caves in Hawaii

and the moray eels Oh yeah And their teeth Oh shit And I said well But we were fearless Man I was a young kid I was in my 20s man

I didn't give a fuck about anything And then I was a boasts made I don't know if you know what that is That's like the guy who runs the ship Okay I came a bow cap And you know not a captain Like you're full of a ship

Yes but you know those coast guard boats Those 41 foot 44 foot motorboat I was the captain of one of those And I used to go out and rescue people 50 miles out, 70 miles. We used to have to do shit that the kids today didn't have to. We had to navigate with a sexton if you had a know-how. We didn't have to fucking hit a button shit.

I mean, you know, we had Loran. Actually, I was in the Coast Guard when Loran A went away. And then it was the Loran C. You don't even know what that is. No, I'm no idea. The man, it was, they had these stations all over, would shoot singles, and that's where you picked up. Obviously, didn't have satellite back then.

You know, they didn't have all the communication shit. Right. We had actually what they called Dead Reckoning. You actually, like, if there was someone 50 miles out on the Gulf over here. Yeah. And I'd been out 70 miles out there. You know, how do you get there? There's no fucking traffic.

Like, when I come to your studio today, go down, make a left on oak, you know, oak, whatever it is, go down. Yeah, GPS is telling me everything. Yep. And back then, you know, you can't, they'll give you a coordinates, right? And they'll give you, you know, whatever, your latitude and longitude. is and they'll say we're here we're dead in the water we need help something the boat sink whatever

it is yeah and you fucking boom you put it on the chart now you have the fucking balls of the wall out there you don't just get out there I mean because if you went that direct line you would end up 10 miles away and never see them because the currents and the set and drift would take you wherever

right so you had to do what they called the navigation you had a set drift and all this on a chart. And you had to know what you're doing. Today, these kids hit a button. Fucking take me here. Takes them there.

But whatever's it goes. I always tell them, what happens if that breaks? Well, we have a backup. What if that breaks? Now what the fuck you do? Do you know how to fucking navigate by the stars? To get home. Right.

I mean, you go the wrong way. You're done. I don't give a fuck who you are. You're going to run out of gas. Yeah. You know, I mean, I don't know. Maybe it's just that I'm old. Maybe I am too fucking old.

never thought about it. I've never even thought about it. No, it's something I don't expect. You know, I've gotten over. Like, I'm easy going now. Very easy going. Less than I've been too much in my life to fucking let things really bother me. You know what I mean? It's just something that doesn't happen anymore. Uh, we all, everyone gets upset, but not much fucking bothers me. Right. Go on porn, porn hub or fucking you porn or something, have fun. Yeah. And it's over. Exactly, right? Absolutely. Who doesn't go on that? I don't know.

I don't know anybody who doesn't go on that. Everyone else. I don't care who you are, where you've been in life. I was listening to Howard Stern. Uh-huh. I love him. Oh, yeah, he's great. And fuck, he talks about fucking you porn and all this shit.

You know, he's 65. Yep. Who doesn't? If your dick works, you go on fucking you porn. Ryan's laughing over there. He's on you porn. He's there you think he's really working. Oh, dude.

He's really watching it porn right now. Right. He's rubbing one out as we speak. Look at his pants. So where are you originally from? From Brooklyn? Yeah, Bronx in Brooklyn. I was born in the Bronx.

And then we moved up in the world, you want to call it? When I got out, I was in Brooklyn. And I was, uh, that's where it was real, became a gangster. Okay. I was collecting at a card game and I was, uh, that's where I became very, how did you get into that world? How did somebody enter the, the gangster world, the organized crime world? Right. Yeah, it's, well, first of all, you recognized.

When I was 11 and 12 years old, I was doing what they call football tickets. Football tickets is you ever see a ticket for gambling. You pick four teams, you put a dollar, and you win 10. Right, right. I used to do those back in 1972, 72, 73. I'm born in 61. And I was doing those football tickets making about $125 a fucking week. In 1972.

do you do you're like 12 years old yeah yeah 12 years old doing tickets football tickets and making money going door to daughter the teacher and who taught you how to do that well you that's where you go my dad was in my dad was on the fringes my dad was a union guy and he built the world trade center really my dad was the head guy on the world trade center and the world trade center is uh you know when of course they went down all that but i was on the top of the world trade center the two of the Twin Towers were built in 68 to 72. Okay. I was on the roof when it was the 103rd floor when it was the roof and the construction

workers tied a rope to my brother and I and we crawled to the edge and looked out 103 stories up. I got pictures of that on that building. That's crazy. That is fucking nuts. You know, if you drop the penny down and you could kill a person. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know.

Last week I had a guy on this show who was a firefighter when the planes hit. One of the first building collapsed on top of him. He survived it. Wow. Good for him. I lost a friend, not a lot. But, yeah. I know there's a lot of bars in New York.

There's a place called O'Hara's. And you go in that bar and it's downtown near the freedom. Now it's called the Freedom Town. And the Freedom, it's right near there. And it's O'Harris. People know it on your show who go there in New York. And it's got all the emblems of so many. from around the world who went to the World Trade Center to help to do things and stuff like that.

And it's a great bar. It's a bar. It's an Irish bar. That's a great place. As a matter of fact, the new Freedom Tower. You know what's in there? You know, I have a good memory of the Freedom, the New Freedom Tower. Okay. Great story. You know, I started YouTube a year ago. Uh-huh. You know how I started YouTube? How did you start YouTube? I get called by Vanity Fair. Okay. Now, Vanity. fair, you know who they are, obviously. How do they know who you were?

Well, because I'm on TV about the Casey Anthony Case. I'm on TV all the time. I did some great fucking shows. Your audience has got to go look at John Oliver. Oh, yeah. I did a clip with The Daily Show. I've been on a Daily Show three times. I don't know if you saw it.

It's the funniest clip they did that year. It's called if any audience wants to just Google MBA, Masters, Business, MBA ethics oath. MBA ethics oath. You'll fucking fall out of your chair watching this. I go on the Daily Show and they build

a suit for me. I rip it off and I yell at these Harvard and MBA students who wouldn't sign an ethics oath. It's fucking hilarious. But I've been on a daily show a bunch of times. What did you say to them? What do you mean they wouldn't sign an ethics oath? These guys from Harvard and MIT would not sign an ethics oath.

Ethics oath. For what? For ethics, you know, to be a good business man. You want to raise it up a little bit, yeah. Yeah, like, you can turn this to face it. Okay, good. Yeah, to be a, you know, have ethics. Right.

And they wouldn't sign an oath. So they did this skit with me, and these kids didn't know who I was. And I was just out of prison. I think it was 2009. Maybe, yeah, 2009, I think it was. And I'm out of prison. I get out in August of 2007. and I kept fucking with these guys

I mean, they didn't know who I was. I'm talking to John Oliver and the producer and we'd stop and they didn't know who I was. This was all legit. And I said to him, you know, I just might kill one of these motherfuckers, these rich ass old fuck.

And I'm telling this guy, and they're like, this guy fucking for real. When you watch the clip, you got to watch the clip. Okay. When you watch the clip, look at the time they say, John Oliver says,

oh, so you're calling Larry an idiot. They go, oh no, oh no. You got to watch the fucking clip. Have your audience. You'll laugh your balls off. Is it on your YouTube channel or no? It might be. I'm not sure.

You can go on MBA ethics oath. Okay. Just Google. Google it. MBA ethics oath. All right. Remember, I'll text it to you. So going back to your early life here.

Oh, let me tell you about it. No, Vanity Fair. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, Vanity Fair. What happened? Well, how I started the YouTube. Oh, okay. Because I get called from Vanity Fair.

and they say to me. Hey, no, I don't think I've ever told this story to the way I'm telling it, because this is, this is somebody's gonna fucking, this is gonna get crazy because they're gonna be called, man. I'll tell you what happened. So I get a phone call,

hey, we want you to come and do a video for us, and we can't pay you, but we'll pay your expenses. They do all that. I mean, nice. Limo, room, you know, food, all the bullshit. But I'm going to New York, so it's taking me three days,

two, two, three days, whatever you got to do. You're flying you up. and all that, and so we'll give you expenses or whatever, but we can't pay you. But if it works, if we get about 150,000 to 180,000 views, we're going to discuss a contract with you.

I said, okay, I'll give it a whirl, right? Give it work. Yeah, I'm doing my reality check program, the one I developed, we'll get to that. So I'm doing that. I'm working with police department. I'm working with schools. I'm working with families.

I'm trying to help court systems. And I'm struggling. I mean, I'm making a living, but struggling. And so I said, sure, I'll do it. I'll discuss it. So I go up there. I do this fucking film. And now this is why I was talking about the world trade center.

What do they have you do? Well, here's a member of the Freedom Tower. Yeah. Freedom Tower, the whole 24th floor of the Freedom Tower is Connest Travel. Connest Travel owns Vanity Fair. Connest Travel is one of the biggest magazine companies in the country in the world. And they own all these fucking magazines, you know, you'll see the high-end boat ones.

All these fucking vanity fair, all these shits. So Connest Travel owns, I'm telling the whole 24th floor of the New Freedom Tower is all studios. Man, is it fucking set up, man. It is fucking awesome. I mean, really, I said, wow, look at this shit. You know, you walk by one fucking studio and it's a kitchen and all this. It's a whole, the whole 24th floor.

So we're in a studio. We do a whole video, take the day. You know how it is when you're doing production. You work in that business. You know what I mean. So come back or get home. Now I have friends in the industry. A good friend of my, Billy Casera, who is Don Uitt's son-in-law.

He owns a very big camera company with stable imaging. And Don Uitt founded 60 Minutes. His daughter is one of my best friends. They're great people, great people. Wow. And to this day, I go to fire. Island. I don't know if you know Fire Island, New York. Oh, biggest party place in the world. Really?

Oh, my God. So anyway, we're out there. But so they, Billy calls me. We talk all the time. He goes, yeah, they can offer you a country. So in, now, remember, they wanted 150 to 180,000 views. And they usually judge views to let you know in about two weeks. They don't say how many in the day. Right, right, right. It goes by two weeks, then to a month, and then two months. And that's how they gauge a video. Like, in my videos, when I'm, I know, when I get 50,000 views in the day, I know it's going to be a good video. Some take, never, some take, they run the fucking half a million of million views. So this video, in two weeks, two and a half weeks, gets a million views.

And they want it 150,000. And I'm watching the views go up. I'm waiting for a fucking phone call. Jesus, when these fucking people are going to call me? My buddy, Billy says, lad, they got to call you. They got the golden egg, you know? Yeah. They figured, man, they're smart.

I mean, they know what they're doing. They got fucking loud. You know, they find, because I did TV shows with Billy. That's how we met. We actually did big film, like pilots. Okay. So, and he says to me, goes, I don't get a call. Never call, never call.

Huh. Then I get so fucking mad. Now, people are contacting me, finding me. I don't know how. Email you. Yeah, everything. I fucking, I had videos. I had videos from being on TV.

I opened my own YouTube. I said, fuck them. Didn't even know anything about YouTube. Didn't know what it was. I started working my balls off. And I mean researching, researching, researching, researching, just me. I have no team, nothing. Right.

I start uploading fucking videos. I start uploading VERS. That's how my editor, who's got himself a hell of a career now, and he's got a really nice one. We cash out. He calls me. He's 20 years old. He's got a hell of a resume to kid. Great guy, Darry.

My people know him. Great editor. Good guy, too. I've already flown him to Florida and stuff like that. So Darian did work with the Toronto Raptors. Like he won some awards from high school. And he really knows what he's doing. Right.

Really graphics and editing. He calls me. He says, hey, he goes, I see you, you know, have an editor. I'd love to work. I says, yeah, I can't pay you. I said, but if it hits, you're going to be taken care of and we'll work something out and all that. Right. Sure enough, obviously, it hits and all that.

So without Vanity Fair's stupidity, I wouldn't have my YouTube channel. I would just got a deal with them and that would have been it and I wouldn't be. Wow. But you're going to like that too. And I'm the past Vanity Fair. They got 2 million subscribers since 2006. Right. I got a fucking million, almost a million one.

in fucking a year, year in a month or two, whatever it is. But it's funny because... Did they ever reach back out? Yeah, listen to what happens. When we did the filming of that video, and people can look at it up online now,

just go to Vanity Fair Larry Lawton. It's got 9 million views that video. 9 million views. They write me, it's got about 2 million, 3 million, whatever at the point, they write me to go, oh, without even fucking sending me a bottle of scotch.

not even saying fucking thank you Larry we discussed that we can't work with you but great job nothing not a fucking thank you they fucking write me and say we want you to sign the release for the second video

and I got my own YouTube channel I write back and I don't just write back to whoever wrote me I get on LinkedIn and I find that the CEO the CFO the CFO operation every fucking buddy you can think in Vanney Fair with a title I CC them on email

very professional I received your email not only do you not have permission to post my video so that's no I wanted to say how disappointed I was in why you didn't honor your deal and you still owed me $491 blah blah They paid that. I get a check in a week for the $491.

What was that for the travel expenses? It was expenses and stuff like that. And, and, but I said, but thank you very much for doing that because you started my YouTube career. I'm sure my buddy says, people were fired. They had to be fired. I mean, they fucked up. You know, it's like, it's like, you know, you got something in front of you and you see it work. There's numbers are there.

I mean, you know, numbers. Right. Don't lie. And now it's got 9.1 million views, I think it is, some crazy number. And it's, but they could have had that on how many videos. I was going to do a deal with them. And they could have made a ton of money. I was going to accept the deal of good money, but I was going to accept the deal.

What the hell I do videos, whatever. Yeah. But now I got this going, and I love it because the voice gives me an opportunity to help more people. Right. To do more with a lot of people. And I think that's important. And it's funny because we started that conversation Everybody who knows me on my channel

He's fucking all over the place That's Larry Yeah But that's, you know Things come in your head That's what makes you so great Well it comes in your head You know what I mean

Yeah for sure Things hit you go Oh fuck it Yeah Just fucking ask it If I can ask you Just do it Because you're gonna forget about it

Anyway Right And then you know What the fuck was that Trust me when you get older It'll be worse But so I look at it like Listen it is what it is

We're gonna get to the point We're gonna get where we go whether it's my old career as a gangster, whether it's how I start a reality check. And that's a great story. So I started reality check, which is a very, it's got the highest success rate

of any program in the country. What is it? I built, when I got out of prison, a guy comes up to me, golfers says, hey Larry, I need a favor. I said, fuck you. You want me to break somebody's legs?

I just got out of fucking prison. Leave me to fuck alone. He says, no, no, no. He goes, I caught my 16-year-old smoking weed. and he said, fuck you, dad, wherever you've been. Now, I spoke weed. I'm a believer in all drugs. Right.

Just, if you commit a crime to do them. Right. That's what you're the hell of the count. But what you do in your own house, Dan, I don't give a fuck what you do. Not hurting anybody. What you do in your own house is your business. Right. Nobody should ever judge you or talk.

That's not what I believe in. That's why I'm a libertarian now. Right. But anyway, so, he said, I said, your son told you where to fuck you meant. I'll talk to your son. You want to talk about having the stars aligned. I have pictures of me in prison with gangsters, fucking murderers, fucking gang members, everything, you know, friends. And you can't do that anymore.

So it was just the timing was perfect. Back when I was in, you could take those pictures. Can't do that today. So I take these pictures over to the kid. Nah, he's a big kid, but I'm a pretty big guy. I could be intimidating if you want to understand that. You know what I mean? Yeah, oh, yeah, for sure.

So I sit down to the kid and I said, I only use two curse words. I said, you told your father where the fuck he's been? Let me show you where the fuck I just came from. The kid looked at me. I started, I don't believe it. First of all, that's a great story, too. I don't believe it's scared straight. It doesn't work because if I yelled at you, you'd look at me.

So what the fuck is this idiot? Right. And fucking shut down and I got to get out of you. Right. You know what I mean? Okay, let him fuck her. You never understand me.

But if I told you a story about a kid who got his anus cut from the top of his ass to his balls and raped and fucking seminal fluid was found in there. And I read the articles and heard the screams. You will never forget that. You probably won't now or audience. But I tell the whole exact story. But anyway, so I started telling the kid's stories and showing them the pictures. I was there for about an hour and a half, whatever it was. I'm just out of prison.

And the father's a golf. I'm a golfer. You play golf? Yeah, do you? Yes, man. Oh, let's go play golf after this, man. Let's go play nine holes. If I didn't have my golf clubs, now I know you here.

Yeah, I used to be very good. I used to be a three. Now I'm about 10, 12. I suck. Yeah, I'm not good. I can. Cigars and drink. Exactly.

Oh, you're in. We're playing golf. We're playing golf. We're playing golf. Definitely. Now I have another reason to come out. Oh, hell yeah, man. Oh, I love it. And so we're sitting there and I talk to the kid.

I go out to the gazebo. The guy's a golf pro. And he says to me, he goes, I appreciate it, whatever. And it gives me money. Gives me a hundred bucks. I said, man, I know you just got out of prison, whatever. Give me a hundred bucks. Calls me two weeks later.

Now, you know, I got my law degree from prison. Now, I have the credits to be a lawyer. I don't have the degree because I'm a convicted felon. Right. But I'm a licensed paralegal. I did law for 10 years in prison. So when I get out, I was going to go work with a couple of law firms easily do it. Now, did you do that to, did you help out a lot of other prisoners in there?

Oh, all the time. Every day. I hear, like, is that- Jail-house lawyers, you call it. Jail-house lawyers. Is the reason that, I've heard that the reason a lot of people do that is so they can have some sort of value to to other people in there so people won't fuck with them. Obviously, you might not have been worried about that, but I know.

No, no, I understand what you're saying. You know, did they do it as protection? Yeah, most people do. The guys who I know who do, and I have a very good friend of mine does one of the best in one of the best. And I just did a video with him. And he got two guys out with life sentences in the last month. Damn, with life sentences. Guys the best.

And, you know, it's about writing and how to do it. We understand the laws and the courts. Most of us do it for the right. reasons yeah you'll get some of but they're idiots then they they get exposed for not being good at what they do you got to love the law and you got to love doing it to live in that law library and stuff i used to fight the system i'm gonna tell you that's when i told you i went crazy in the hole and all that but anyway so uh the kid uh the law the father says calls me two weeks later he goes lair i don't know what you did he goes forget your law forget anything you got to work with

kids my kids said dad i don't want to go where that guy with me missed a lot and went, I need help. I need help. 16 years. Kids great. I was 12 years, 13 years ago. Kids 30, married, college degree, everything. Wow. And he goes, can I give you a name out? Sure. People give me a hundred bucks and talk to their kid. I said, fuck, this is great, man. What the fuck?

But I loved it because you're helping somebody. I always love to help people. And so as I'm doing that, I get a phone call. from a lady named Gene Bandish. She's from the juvenile court coordinator in Provard County. And she says, hey, Mr. Lawton, Judge Reimer would like to see you. I ain't going to see no, no, she wants it. I said, I don't give her, you got a warrant?

You got to, you don't got a warrant. I ain't seen a fucking, I know the law. Yeah. She goes, no, no, no, no. She wants to know what you do. I said, listen, I ain't doing anything illegal. I'm fucking helping people. I don't want, no, that's what she wants to know.

I still don't want to be in a courthouse. Who fucking wants to go to a courthouse? Right. She convinces me that they just want to talk to me about the program and I go in there on a Friday. So Friday comes, I go in there. I don't even know how to fucking work a computer. I don't know shit.

Now I'm pretty tech, but I didn't know anything. My nephew who's since passed, he shows me how to do a PowerPoint. It helps me put a PowerPoint. I don't know. 10 slide, 15 slide PowerPoint. The fuck uses PowerPoints now. I don't know.

But anyway, it's a PowerPoint. And I go in there and I show them everything. And the judge goes, oh, thank you. Would you like to stay for the rest of the means? No. Get the fuck out of you. I don't feel good, man. I'm in the fucking judges chambers.

Every time I'm in front of a fucking judge, I'm going to prison. It's been 12 years. 11 years of prison. Right. 11 straight, 12 year sentences. Four 12 years sentences. 11 of, they ran them concurrent. Anyway, and that's had 11 years.

So I'm sitting there, and I, leave. This is a Friday. I get a phone call Monday morning. Gene says, hey, Mr. Lord, how you doing? Yeah, good. She goes, I just want to let you know, Judge Ryman's sentence two people to your program. What fucking program? What do you mean? She's your program, you know, you talked about. It was a fucking idea in my head. I ended up developing the number one program that's been recognized on the floor of the United States Congress in the country, a four-part program that I still have right now. Anybody can go on my website.

I sell it $35 or some shit. I don't even try to get people out of money or any, just enough to fucking keep the internet shit going. Right, right. And it's a four-part program based on my life, what prison is really like, what you're going to lose, and avoiding and dissolving bad association, a four-part program. I developed it. In fact, I'm the only ex-con.

in the United States who's an honorary cop. Really? Only man in the country. I was sworn in in Lake St. Louis, Missouri. And I'm no cop lover. Let me get that straight. Cops know me. I support good cops.

Right. These fucking cops that harass and got bully complexes and all the bullshit or hit you for pot or bullshit drug that crap. Get out of the car. I smell some and they want to find. It's bullshit.

That's not what America should be about. No. Do I want a cop? When my house is being broken in? Absolutely. Yeah. 9-1-1, help me. Should you bet?

Don't stop me for some bullshit. I even came up a couple of policies that I don't think cops should ever be allowed to stop you for anything that's non-life-threatening. Meaning, if you're going 100 miles an hour down the street, yeah, you're going to hurt somebody. But if you're going five miles an hour over the limit, you want to give me a ticket? Give me a ticket. They can take your license plate with the car camera. Right. Send me a ticket.

if you make a right turn and don't put your single light on they shouldn't stop you they should give you if they want to they can take a picture boom give you a ticket because once they stop you everything happens you're you might have a little pot in a car some shit oh fuck what i do oh am i gonna run i'm a bit i'm not saying you somebody you know what i mean i once you're in the system for one thing it's a vicious cycle you could it's so hard to escape it because they have you these all this guy's already been busted for this this this this and this we're fucking nailing this guy. You're 100% right, man. You are 100%.

And it's wrong. You know, they can look you up. They can do everything from your plate and if you're a fucking, you know, convicted felon and all it. Or, you know, not even convicted. I don't care. I mean, you know, wanted, is what I meant. Right. They shouldn't just fucking have the, that's where, even cops I got convinced now. I have

a lot of cops. I deal with good cops. Go on my channel. There's a chief of police where we live. I love them. But then there's a sheriff who is a fucking idiot. He really, yeah. I I don't get the fuck about it. He's an idiot. Fucking, he's an egomaniac.

He's a fucking nut. Is it Bravard County? Yeah, Brevard County, sir. He's whack, man. He's so about himself. He's such a, he's his head, his head can't get through that fucking door. Yeah, he comes up with the wheel of fucking fugitive. Yeah.

He comes up with fucking fishing for justice with Wayne Ivy and fucking they go on. And these people, you know what the people fucking did? Violation of probation. Bad check writing. So they put you on TV to really make you look like a jerk. off. Is that really necessary? And then you get hardcore, oh, but he's a criminal. Oh, how many, you know, they did a study. Did you know, the average person breaks the law three times a day? Hmm. I'm all surprised. I did it. Come walking across the street. Yeah, Jaywalking. So,

my point is, at what point are we part of the community? See, cops should belong. I'm, like I said, I support good cops. Police reform and prison reform are my. specialty. In police reforms, cops should be part of your community. Right. And if I have a kid that's so fucked up

and they need Larry's help all this help, I don't give a fuck of you. Go in that house and you find fucking coke or pills or whatever. Don't arrest them. I didn't call you to arrest my kid. I called you to help my kid. Oh, but he's doing breaking the law or that's the only way?

No, it's not. We could try a lot better ways than what you just. said give him a record yeah it's a the law thing so true it's become to like now in the country it's almost just like this mentality of us versus them i talk about that every day then yeah you got to break down that us against them mentality yeah imagine i was thinking about it there and i was like imagine if we didn't have cops we didn't have law enforcement what would what would you do well you would want to have as many friends as possible and you would want to have the weak We're weak people would obviously want to become friends with stronger people,

and you would want to be able to be protected. You would want to feel, you have to have that sense of security or protection. I'm just like in a hypothetical world where there's no cops. But they had that. They could have Roman times. They had the king, and he had his men, and they enforced whatever they wanted because they were the strong or whatever on the weak or whatever. And even back in the old days of the United States in the 1700s,

And they had a guy, sheriffs in their 1800s and stuff that would do. And they were usually criminals or drunk. So just the fastest guy with the gun. Right. You know, whatever, how it worked. But what has happened is they've got so much power, cops, that a lot of them can't handle it. Now, again, there's great cops out there that want to do the right thing, want to help the neighbor, want to get the, I don't want. Listen, everyone thinks Larry, you're in that.

criminal shit and you were a bad guy. I don't want the, I often then tell people, listen to me, I was in prison. We had, in Atlanta, we had 2,000 inmates. 880 had life. Think of this. 200 of those, 250 fight their case legally.

450, find a lover, and they live their life, they go to unicorn, whatever the fuck they figure, though. Great. And 200 are fucking psychopaths. Really? When I say psychopaths, never belong being out on the street again ever I don't want that guy living next to you

can you define what it makes for a person to be a psychopath what characteristics how do you tell zero empathy zero compassion will cut your fucking head off and go to sleep I know a guy or stabbed the guy is cellmate and went back to bed

killed him and went to sleep there's another guy who cut a guy's head off in prison with a shank these two inmates and another inmate poor guy only had 10 year sentence and he was getting out he's a bank robber they were in a cell they put three in a cell they put three guys in a cell they cut him open these two guys had life they cut him open they took his intestines out and it wrapped his intestines around the door

I consider that a psychopath is this the prison that you were in yeah Holy fuck, dude. I could sit at psychopaths. Now, you could look them up. You could look these incidents at all. They're very easily. What I talk about, I always tell people,

you don't even have to fucking believe me. I lived it. Go look it up. And you'll be able to Google it. Yeah. So the violent level, now, again, what are you, going back to the psychopaths, how does someone become that?

How do you think they're born with that? How do you think that's, it's like childhood trauma? Well, I think there's a lot of factors that go into it. I think what happens is, you know, I hate to say this. I think I could become a psychopath if I lived in there. I don't know. If you did what? If I lived in that environment long enough or I don't know, maybe I couldn't.

Maybe I couldn't because there's something deep, fucking seated. Yeah. I always, even when I was a criminal, I used to give money to people. And I cared about people. Always did. Always had a heart. Right. You know, I often talk to parents, you know,

and I do a lot with parents and families, and they'll ask me, you know, I want to talk to the kid. Once I find out certain questions, you know, he hates his parents, he hates his sister, but you find out he loves cats or loves dogs or something.

He's got, he's savable. He's got that compassion. He's got that empathy in him. Now, you got to get it out. You got to direct. it but then you get the really psychos maybe you know like you said for whatever reason there's no one's

home nobody's home i'm telling they've seen their eyes their black eyes and and what you can almost see in this all there's nothing it's fucking dark and those people i've ate with them talked with them hung out with them and you don't think I ever trusted him

not for a fucking second I don't want that guy cutting out living next to you so I'm not a bleeding heart everybody gets out of prison and it has to be, you know, the right people, but we have too many people in prison who do change. You take myself, and I often tell young people, when you're 20, Ryan, you think you know it all.

I'm not going to love them. Then you hit 30, and you say, fuck, I didn't know shit at 20. When you hit 40, it's going to be, fuck, I didn't know shit at 30. When you hit 50, you're going to say, am I ever going to fucking learn anything? I'm going to hit 60, and I'm learning it. every day. Yeah. Because you change. You change your views. You change your things. And I'm, I'm a very, I guess, I'm very socially liberal. Very socially liberal. Uh, and somewhat fiscally conservative. I still don't care what, no matter what, no person in this country should have to eat

cat food. I don't give a fuck what she did wrong or a husband left her and they didn't put it enough and she stole. I don't give a fuck. Nobody should eat cat food in this country or any country. We should be able to feed people. And I don't care how it has to happen. But I don't believe we should just give money, just give money for lazy people. I'm not lazy. Right.

You're not lazy, obviously. And I think we need to, that's my views. That's why I'm a libertarian. But I believe I think all drugs should be legal. They've done this experiments. Now in Oregon, you know, drugs are now being criminalized. Did you know? LSD, mushrooms and stuff in D.C. is legalized.

And it should be. You're not going to hurt. I mean, what are you going to do? You're going to hurt. You can drink a fucking fifth of vodka and go drive down the street, but you can't eat a magic mushroom. Absolutely. See, my point is, if you commit a crime to get the drug, that you should be held accountable. Right.

If you're robbing somebody, do it, be held accountable. But what's you doing your own hand? I often tell you, you want to go on your fucking bedroom jack off in the corner up against the, have fun, do whatever the fuck you want to do. your house, your place. You shouldn't infringe on other people's, but do what you want. That's what freedom is. That's true freedom. And we don't have it right now.

We don't have it. A lot of people, oh, we live in the freest country in the world. Wait a minute. 96 countries, 196 countries have freedom. Total freedom. Much as us. So it's not, do I love America? Absolutely.

And then again, going back to 196. six countries have freedom, but we have more people locked up than any other country in the world. So, exactly. So how free are we? And at what, at what degree are we overstepping our bounds as a country? Yes, we need government. Yes, we need roads fixed. And, you know, the government was originally formed, and I'm a history nut, was, especially like the Navy and the military, and the Coast Guard was actually the first service ever out, is because we wanted to protect waterways and we wanted to protect free trade. That's a government function. we want to defend ourselves against another country.

That's what we need. But we don't need government in your business. You know, like the sheriff who wants to show these fucking people who wrote a bad check and now they're fucking the biggest villain and they're on wheel of fugitive and whatever the fuck he calls it. That's such a degrading thing. How much fucking things that he do wrong, that guy? Right.

If he really wants to be honest with himself. Now, I'm not saying you can't get to get him, But you don't got to humiliate them on a fucking bullshit wheel of thing. Now, if the guy's a murderer, you want to help getting a murderer that's killed a fucking kid. Absolutely. You know, there's crimes that we should all be pissed at. What happened at the Capitol. Fucking treason.

Right. I don't care what people, Trumpers, or whatever the fuck they are. I don't give a shit. That was fucking treason. That was It's beyond words for me I listen to Howard Stern today go off Really?

Oh what was he saying about it? Fucking thinks he's fucking nuts People should be in jail, prison All this said they're brainwashed And they are It's fucking crazy It's fucking scary crazy And those are the things

That we should be here Pissed at And we should be piss at a murderer Or me I was a fucking criminal I'm being honest. I was a robber. I was not good.

I belonged in prison. Did I belong to be strapped down naked? A guy take his dick out and pee on my face? Without me wanting. I'm joking. You know, my point is it's wrong. I mean, I was wrong, Dan. And those are the crimes that should be held accountable and go to prison.

Yes, the guy wrote the check, right, and the credit. They're wrong. but do they need to be humiliated on a wheel of future, a fugitive, violation. What was his probation? You find out he fucking, he fucking got six-month probation for fucking driving on suspended license. I was just going to say that.

You know, multiple drive. But now he's on the wheel of fugitive. Do we really need to fucking goddamn humiliate people? I don't believe so. Now, he's such a good politician as a sheriff, and I give him that. But he only, he only, he only, He fucking talks to the people, you know, the old people.

He scares him and all. He could never get to you. Fearmongering. He can't get to a guy like you as an independent thinker who looks through him or Ryan or people young. They look and I'm like, who the fuck are you? I know, they tell me in my class. Right, right, right.

You know, fuck, that guy's the biggest dick. Listen, I know the guy and he doesn't want to help the jail. You know what he did for years in the jail? I don't know if they still do it. They didn't give women tampon. really how would you like to have a daughter or your wife or a girl or anybody and she's on a period and they and they don't give them something to help themselves it it blows my mind away how you can go home at night and say oh i did a great job it's barbaric man it's barbara it's not designed

to help anybody it's none there's no you know what his you know what his line is i want my jail to be the toughest jail. That's not what fucking it's for. It should be for rehabilitation. Right. Well, yeah. And to hold violent people. Jails, we fucked it up.

And going out there in the public and just saying, we need to be tough, we need to get the criminals off the street and branding them, branding them as these criminals to the public. It just makes people, especially older people who are more vulnerable to the media or to advertising or whatever,

who have lesser bullshit. detectors than we do. Oh my God. Everybody talks about young people, right? Yeah. I love young people. Yeah. I think you guys are fucking smarter.

I think you guys are more informed. I think you have greater views than we ever did. And I'm happy about the way it is going with the young people because I'm only here to give you my experience, whether it's whatever. I help young people because there's one thing you can't. You're smarter than me. You know how to do a lot of things. Yeah, no.

I have a good IQ. Yeah. But it's not that. My point is, I have experience in a place you don't want to go. Right. I have experience because I went through life. I often tell young people, I say, you're 30. Ryan's 20.

You're not smart in him, but you have more experienced than him. So you're on. And now you get a guy who's 40 years old. He's been in your business, whether a TV business. He's going to say, man, he's not smart, but he's got more experienced to me. So you're going to listen. Older people got to know that. You know, most older people.

Let me tell you a great story about young people, old people. I was on a board with the Department of Justice up in New York, Washington, D.C. And at the time, I think I had a Blackberry or whatever it was. And I'm new, but I'm working with kids a lot. So I know a lot about young people, kids. I say young people. You know, 20 years old. So we're at a big, big conference room.

And one of the people up this ass, somebody, these kids we've got to give up on what i stand up i can get pretty you know i stand up i take my phone i slam it on the desk everybody looks oh fuck this guy's crazy or whatever i go who in this room can program their phone quicker than their 16 year old kid they all assign i said you know what larry gets the phone opens the book hits button one opens the book hits i get there do you know my daughter does. She takes the phone and starts playing with it, reboots it, plays with it, reboots it, plays with it, reboots it. Here, Daddy, it's done. She did it quick than me. What does that show us? They all look, I said, they learn differently than us.

And sometimes it's better than us. And when we as adults don't listen and just think it's our way to fucking highway, we're wrong. And until we get out of that fucking space, we'll never better this country or better to young people. And I'm big on that. I love working with my... The reason, and I believe this, my channel is growing so quickly. And we were the fastest grown channel on YouTube. The reason

is because I have experience with my partner, my manager, Peter, genius. Then I got my son, who's 30, 31, and I got Darien, who's 20 or 21. I listened

to them. Now, are they always right? No, and I make my decisions from there. For other reasons, for other reasons, for experience reasons, or business reasons, or whatever it is. But I listen to them. When they say to me, like, I remember, you know, I started my YouTube channel with an iPhone. Really? With a fucking iPhone. Nothing else. Literally nothing else. Then I bought a $30 fucking tripod and a fucking thing. It's all I started with. Do you film the videos on your phone? My bet. Not now. Not now.

I do, I actually sometimes do three, four cameras, and I use them still. I've done this with mega TV companies, iPhones. This is the 11 Pro Max because they have front cameras. Oh, yeah. The front camera's amazing. That's why I did it. But, so Darien and my son, I flew them in, we had a meeting and all that kind of stuff.

And they said to me, sit down. I still had the iPhone. And I don't know, six months ago, eight months or whatever it was, they go, my son says, Bob, Darying goes to that. He goes, got to get better cameras. And to this day, I look at the same video. I can't pick it out. But I guarantee you could, and I guarantee Ryan could.

That's funny. Guarantee it. You guys are in a good space because of your ages, and you just got to follow that. You know, get your older guy maybe or whatever. But you guys are in a good space because you know what your audience. First, once you know who you're older, my audience is young. so but I didn't notice it I still don't but we got good cameras now I got you know cameras right all the bullshit that we all need but you know they were on me and I got another one here

and then I'll put this one another sound we're still upgrade we're always doing little things I don't even know it that's great man but I listen to them yeah you're surrounded yourself with smart people that know what they're doing I'm sound and and with the age yeah you know that's why I'm very happy the way this country's going people aren't oh it's fine fucking going on it. Bullshit. What the fuck is wrong with it? Tell me.

Because they are independent thinkers and they don't want war and they want legalized drugs. Okay, why not? I often, when they start that shit and I love this. Well, it's going to be anarchy in the streets. Oh, really? Go to look at Switzerland. Go look at Norway. They're all fucking legalized everything.

Recidivism went down. Up, you know, lower recidism, lower crime rates, lower addiction rates. Saving money. Tell me why. It's big money is fighting. prison system, the private prison system, they're fighting it. Fucking people, law enforcement,

you know why they fight it? Because they get money for it. Right. They get fucking tons of money to fucking have drug tasks for us and tank fucking task for us. It's bullshit. That's military in our streets.

Law enforcement should be Andy fucking Griffin. What do you think? You know, Andy Griffin? Remember Mayberry fucking RFD with fucking Barney. You're too young. Fuck. Yeah.

I missed out a lot of that stuff. Yeah, you, what do you think, though, is the solution to all this team mentality, tribalism, you know, this team red versus blue? I mean, that's obviously the cause of, you know, all the angst right now everywhere. I'll tell you what I'll give you the answer. And it took me, and I'll be honest, it took me, I interviewed, and I think you should have them on your show, I interviewed the president of the Libertarian Party of Florida. what was his name? Steve Nicala is how you pronounce you. Great guy.

Smart. Young. 26. Really? Yeah, his family owns the Island Grill and eight Wendy's and all this stuff. And great guy. And I'll tell you why he's a great guy because he's a visionary. He speaks well.

And the views of the libertarian party, I didn't really know. Now, I was always socially liberal, fiscally, somewhat physically conservative. And when he went over the whole Libertarian Party and what they were, and I had him on, I went, I was in the Keys, blew me away. And then I started researching it. Then I spoke that they wanted me to speak it. Then they were, what a big event, the state of Florida and that, you know, annual event. I was one of the guest speakers. And I liked them because I told him, I said, you know I'm going to fucking blast everybody.

He goes, Larry, I know your channel. Blast whatever you want. Yeah. And he didn't, he didn't restrict me. In any way, they didn't even ask me what I was going to speak about. I said, do what you want. That's liberty. That's why I like them.

When you ask what's the answer, I think the two-party system sucks. Yeah, definitely. Because they're putting you in a box, you know. I don't know what your political affiliation, don't care. Your views is what counts. Right. Now, you should have views that represent you. Now, of course, you're not going to get every single, everything of what you want.

But there's things in the Republican Party. I can't stand. And there's things the Democrat. I'm not more okay, but not... I'm the same as you. And I think we need to get away... I think another third party's coming because of you, because of Ryan, because the young people growing up with more open minds.

And I think, you know, they say this. The Republican Party has fucked up because they don't believe in the... Listen, the Browning of America is here. Love it. We have more inclusive than ever. I have no prejudices in me. Zero. I just don't have them.

It's not in my makeup. The one blessings my parents gave me, I grew up in a melting pot. Yeah. We didn't give a fuck you black, white, Spanish, Chinese, a Martian. If you lived on our block, you were good. If you didn't, you were no fucking good. In the Bronx. Okay, yeah, yeah.

If you lived in that area, you were good. If you didn't, you were no fucking good. I mean, it's just the way we live. Right. So we didn't have those specific. Oh, he's black. That's a lot of people from that area too, right? They feel the same way as you?

Yeah, see, a lot of New Yorkers aren't prejudiced at all. No. Because they live in their melting pot. Right. And, you know, I understand it, you know, growing up in it, but I'm hoping younger people, even when their parents were fucked up, and they are. Some are. Don't hate it, but they just grew up that way.

But you have that open mind, younger people. And I think what's happened with the Republican Party, they're not inclusive enough. Obviously, they don't, they, you know, every, it's obviously abortion issues and religious issues. And if you're not a fucking Christian, you don't want to fucking hail the flag or whatever. Stop it. That doesn't make us who we are. What makes us who we are is how we treat people and how we are. represented around the world and stuff.

Not what you fucking... I don't give a fuck what people pray to or what they do. That's their own business, man. Everybody should have their own fucking say. That's freedom. And that's liberty, man. But they want to say, no, we're free, free, free.

But you have to fucking do the fucking pledge of allegiance. No, you don't. Do you want I do? I do. But it's... I don't... If someone don't want to... Good. The guy wants to kneel for the fucking national... I have fucking kneel. What do I give a fuck what you do? Right.

I mean, there's, oh, that's the biggest, if that's your biggest fucking worry in this world. God damn, that pisses so many people off. And if that bothers you in this world, you got some fucking issues. That's what bothers you? Oh, I'm fucking far father's fort with a flag. You're right. To do that. Right.

To do that. Hitler didn't let you do that. Will fucking let you do that. That's what the fucking, I don't get it, man. But anyway, I think. And then the. Democrats, they want, oh, give every fucking thing in the world away to anybody who wants. Free college, free this, well, who's paying for it?

I mean, yeah. Well, are we going to take over the world, so we got all the fucking money and oil and everything? No. The education thing I can relate to. I think, I do think that the education thing makes sense. To a degree. You want smarter people, right? That's the whole thing.

You want less losers in your country. I agree if you do. But they have to have it make worth some. And let me tell you what I mean. Right. When I was doing my program with the court system, it's in the courts. One judge said something, he goes, no, Larry, he goes, you got to charge for that. More.

I go, why, he goes, it's got to be worth something. Otherwise, they won't understand it. They'll just think, that's another fucking thing I had to do. If you make education totally free, totally free. Now, here's my degree. You want to go to, you want to serve the country? I don't give a fuck if it's in the, uh, If you want the government to pay for your education,

you should have to serve in a voluntary organization for a year, two years. Or whatever number, like, you know, if you go to Israel, I'm not Jewish, but I know the countries, if you go to Israel, everybody in that country has to serve in the military for two years. Everybody, two years. That's giving them a national thing or whatever they get paid for other than that. But I'm talking about, like you said with education, I love it. I do believe in giving it for you.

First of all, obviously, if you have their brain power. I just don't want people to maintain a certain sort of work ethic and a certain amount of grades. You can't just be failing through college. You get it for free. That's what I meant. You have to be a go-getter and you have to have a goal. Be like, I want to achieve this and you have to.

And my thing, or they have a couple of things. If you work for the government, you know, in, let's say, the Department of Environmental, if you work there for five years, no bill. Right. You have to have something to make it worth it. Otherwise, like you said, people are just going to, well, let me go to college and waste another fucking three years. What's the alternative?

You spent a hundred grand for you. See, I don't like that. And you can't get a fucking job. I don't like that. And I think it's stupid. And we still need, you know, people often say, well, that's because they get a degree in history. Well, that's okay to get a degree in history.

I love history. You know, if you don't know history, you're going to repeat it. So I agree that you should have, but to have to at least do something, make it worth something instead of just nothing. And I don't mean for just for you, if you're asking the other people, because taxes pay it, if you're asking the society for pay for your good education, do something for society. I don't give a shit if it's volunteering on a city council boards or whatever. It's got to be something.

And then I'm all for it, education. Right. I'm a big on education anyway. Or even if you just have a really successful business, you're, you're, you're, you're, You're helping the economy. Right. Whatever it is, there should be some kind of worth of something. That's all I'm saying.

Yes. And yes. But in the Democrats, they want to just give this. Or I believe in universal health care. I do. I mean, I don't think anybody should go broke in this country because they got an illness. Right. I agree.

It shouldn't happen. Right. But you get hit by a car. It's fucking paralyzes you. You're fucked. Yeah. And now you're going to just lose everything you ever owned and everything else because some doctors and hospitals want to make your money.

You know, I mean, I don't agree with that. But I do think we need a strong defense. The alternative to that, though, I mean, look at the VA. A lot of people, a lot of veterans, they want to help. I'm a veteran. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people I've talked to that have terrible experiences with the VA. I don't, though.

Really? Love them. It's cheating to me right. That's awesome. And I've been retired since 1986. Really? I got hurt in the service. Uh-huh.

And that's when I went into crime if I got out. Really? But yeah, I went in in 1979. She's on my fucking age of myself. Fuck! I went in over 40 years ago. I went in the service in 1979. I got out in 86.

End of 86, almost a, actually December 31st of 1986. So I was in for seven years and four or five months. And I got out because I got hurt. And I'm a disabled vet. And I get a check and I get medical care and I get everything. And they've always treated me right. Really? Yeah.

Even through prison. You don't experience like the long wait times. Well, you know, if they really came a long way, I got lucky because, first of all, I was educated enough and persistent enough. I do feel for older people, like I'm an 80-year-old man, and you're asking them to do this, this, and you're obviously very outspoken. You know how to get what you want. Right.

You know, I'm a little bit more aggressive if you're going to call it that. Some people are not. And able to do it, you know, technology-wise now. You know, you get older people. People don't can't. They get, they're put on hold and they hang. I understand that. I do feel for them.

And I think we need more elderly advocates in the VA. Maybe it's a person that just helps the elderly that can't do it. Because I look at my mom. My mom's alive. And I take care of my mom. I don't know if you knew that. I take care of it. That's where I live with my mom to take care of her.

Oh, wow. I moved back from Fort Waterdale to take care of my mom. Really? Yeah. Because she took care of me my whole life. Yeah. for me in prison. Now she's 80,

she'll be 88. And I take care of. Wow. Yeah. Just her and I. That's amazing, man. Yeah.

And I won't never not take care of. You know what I mean? Right. Whatever. And that's why I built the studio and the house. Right, right, right. Oh, that's great, man.

I got to come out. Yeah, yeah, you got to come in there. Got a bar in there. We could drink. Really? Fuck yeah. Of course I do. But that's, you know,

I mean, my beliefs and stuff, you know, you really love this. A lot of people want me to run for office, right? my channel. They want me to run for Congress office. And I said, do you fucking crazy? Do you know how?

I will get up on that floor and tell them all he will fuck themselves. But, you know, we need, we need, I don't, I think I could do more good behind the scenes with a bigger and bigger channel and stuff. Right. Oh, for sure. But we totally need guys like yourself who are, I would have guessed, more of a progressive or at least a person who wants to do the right thing, help more people. Have fun. Live life, man.

Right, right, right. Too many people. Work, when our age, we fucking work. Yeah, I did too. But fucking let these guys live, man. What the fuck? What do you think about fucking Trump getting banned on all social media,

Twitter? You know, a lot of people ask me that. I'm kind of torn on it, man. Well, I know, because they're a free speech thing, but not only the free speech thing, but I feel like it's just going to rile so many. I don't feel like that's the answer. That I disagree.

You can't let one or X-M-Mexam. amount of people. Listen, it's a company. They're making company decisions. Remember this. Listen, if it's a bad company decision, and 70 million people get off them, they'll go out of business. They're making that decision that it's not going to be at.

So if you're in a capitalistic country, don't let the government tell you have to go and let them on either. If you're really free, the market will determine if it's a good or bad move. True. Now, if Twitter fucking goes down, because of fucking, it loses people and all this kind of shit, well, Twitter made a bad decision. Right.

And then some people will say, well, you know, would you let just the big tech companies run the free? No, you're not. The president, if he wants, can get out and make a press fucking release tomorrow. He's not being fucking silenced. Right. He can get on and make a press release.

He can put out a press release. He can get on national TV. You can do anything the fuck he wants. Right. Now, they ban every one of the ones. of those platforms, that new platform, whatever they talked about, the one they... Parlor? Parlor.

They, there, it's in there. I went and looked at it. Do you make an account? No. But I looked at their rules. They can ban anybody at any time for any fucking reason. Right, right, right. Well, it's right there.

You don't like that to begin with, don't get on it. But when they do it, don't bitch that they did it. Right, right. For sure, they're allowed to do it. I'm not, that's not my question. I know they're allowed to do it. Do I think it's right? Do I think it's, like, don't you think,

that both opinions, no matter both sides of the of the fucking aisle, no matter how extreme? Extreme they are. People should be able to experience them and make a judgment on if it's right or wrong. All right, let me give you. I know what you say. The Capitol, right?

People see all these crazy motherfuckers going into the Capitol with fucking rebel flags and wearing shirts that say, it wasn't enough. What was the thing? They said, didn't kill enough Jews. These fucking neo-Nazis that are in there, whatever. People should be able to see that and understand that,

okay, this is fucking crazy. I need to, you should be able to condemn that or, you know, make a decision about that. And nobody's question, they're not stopping that. They're stopping one person. Let me take it to the other level. Is it okay for you to go to a movie theater? And scream, fire, fire, fire!

And everyone panics and fucking three people die when they fucking run out of the place and there's no fire. Right, no. They know that. Free speech doesn't give you all right for that. Right. Is it okay for somebody to recruit fucking psychopaths that are not so outside the mainstream?

Now, we don't let the KKK fucking do that because of, you know, that's banned now. you can't do that at what point is creating anarchy stopped in 194 in 1937

38 when hitler become stronger and stronger in power he shut down so he was the only one that can do that if we let one person

whether it's a Donald Trump anybody whoever's crazy they did it with Alex Jones because he'd do whatever it is right if we And get where you're going to go. If we let them create more and more

havoc without stopping them, at what point do you, what happens if he says I'm on Twitter and I want to mobilize a half a million people and I want you to get your arms and we're going to go to war. Is that right? No, definitely not. I mean, that's

because people are brainwashed. Howard Stern said people are brainwashed. Howard Stern has the biggest audience in the world. he get 15 million listeners a day think of that I haven't listeners how a

Howard Cern knows if he wanted to he could mobilize or he has a percentage of it listen I have a percentage of people I have a discordant or I have a percentage of people I'm sure that would that are convincible or whatever you want to call it so now I have to be

responsible if I started getting crazy yeah should I be shut down or stopped at least for doing that. Right. I have to believe at some point, we have to keep civility. Because if you say nobody's allowed to do anything, you can't shut anybody down. They can do anything they want. Right. Then that guy in that fire, in that movie theater who goes in there and causes a riot because he says, people he shot, run, run, run, everyone's going to die. And an old lady gets trampled. I'm, in this case, in the thing, what's going on now, I think there's a business.

decisions by those companies and let the market bear it. Let the market bear it. Right. Why don't you shut Fox down? Right. Because they're spewing this stuff about the election. We know it's false. Come on. Let's get everybody out there.

Yeah. And there are people who are going to be listening saying, no, fucking no, it's stolen. 60 fucking courts. Federal judges said there's no fucking fraud. the own administration that Donald Trump put in said it was the most secure election ever in the history in America did they really yes Homeland Security and the election commission

the guy resigned because brunch band and he did it all the money was put in it most secure election in American history wow so why are people just inciting people to do something stupid that's what that is people and people want to be led I know that I mean people

people don't like you guys people I love that's why I like young people look at the ages of most of those people most of them are older yeah and I don't mean they're not your age they're not 25 right right yeah they're much older

35 40 45 50 you know look at the guys that's sitting on the bench they're 50 years old 45 years old we're fucked up lives probably didn't do anything in their lives and they want to be lead. They want to be led. And I get want to be led.

We need leaders, but you need leaders who are going to push us in the right direction, if that makes sense. I mean, and so as far as, I do understand at what point listen, the market will bear it out. Right.

Because if it's bad decisions and nobody goes on it, because what you're saying, are you going to go on Twitter? I don't know if you do go Twitter. Yeah, I'm still going to go on Twitter. Okay, so I guess it's not fucking, it's, It's nothing so bad that you're not going on Twitter. Right. So they made that calculation, Twitter.

Trust me, if Twitter thought it was going to lose 100 million people and they're going to lose all this revenue, Twitter's not fucking taking you down. Right. But they made a decision or they made a decision that it was so bad. We don't care about the money. And we're going to lose it. But not only did Twitter do it.

Facebook did it. YouTube. YouTube. Listen, you and I know something. We're on YouTube. there's monetization you know this if I do something

and I've been not I've been demonetized have you been dened monetized on specific videos yeah well when you look at for bullshit reasons whatever when you look at it do you alter your thing sometimes it does alter the way

I do it yeah I look at my Twitter and we put up a video we put up a video early and we look at the rules Yeah. And we skirted them, didn't skirt them, whatever we did. And we go back and change it because we're going to follow the fucking rule because I want to be monetized. Right, right. So they put the rules out.

I either follow them or guess what? Larry don't get fucking monetized. Right. And I can't knock that. That's the rule. Do I wish it wouldn't? I mean, yes, do I think I'm going. But then when you look at it and you look deeper on their end, sometimes it's overboard, at least I believe.

but for somebody else it's not. You know, a lot of times with content, like movie reviews, if you make them your own review, then you can monetize. But I had a person, Russian, take my fucking videos

and totally fucking change the, not do a thing, fucking just put my voice in it and was making money or tried to make money. Really? And YouTube shut them down. Thank you.

Yeah. They protected my fucking thing by shutting them down. And if you look at YouTube, most things they shut down is they're trying to protect somebody else's content or something else thing. Right, right, right. So how do you knock that? That's a business decision. Yeah, for sure.

And we, you and I as influencers, what do we do? We watch what we're doing. We alter it. We still want to have conversations like we're having or whatever we're doing. But we understand there is a boundary of some sort, because if there's no boundary, What are we going to fucking do? Yeah, there has to be a boundary. I totally agree with that.

There also has to be more conversations about things, too. People just like to make these bold statements, no matter how untrue they are, and people do get brainwashed by them. And they just, they don't think. There's no thinking involved. They just like to repeat shit that they see or they hear. Well, I don't know if it's that, but here's the problem.

At what point do you believe something? In other words, you're sitting in front of me, and I fucking show you a video of a guy shooting the fucking guy and it's not altered. Right. Do you believe it? Maybe.

Or do you say, not my guy. He fucking, no, that's all. You had professionals. You had this doing it. At what point, I mean... That's the weird thing, right? Because people already believe... It doesn't matter.

You can't change their beliefs. You can't change their mind. I have friends of mine. They filter it backwards. Whatever they see out there, they bring it in, and it either reinforces what they already believe or if it doesn't reinforce what they already believe, it's got to be fake, it's got to be altered.

100% right. And it's sad because I have friends of mine. Now, this incident now changed a lot of people. Totally changed a lot of people. I'm talking staunch fucking Trumpers or, you know, this incident, I have a friend of mine I know for 40 years. Older guy. He said, this ruined him, ruined his life, ruined everything.

And he was a big Trump. And we're just a debate, of course. Never hate each other. I never, I never hate anybody. You'll ever watch my videos, right? I don't use the word hate. I think it's a wasted emotion. I think if I hate, it hurts me, not the person.

The person you hate don't give a fuck. It's just hurting you. I dislike things and I won't go to them or whatever, but I don't hate. I don't give a fuck. I just don't hate. And I think what's happened is this incident now has got people opening their eyes because they're seeing it. I mean, I mean, I don't know how you could talk your way out of this.

I don't know how you could talk your way out of this. But there are people already saying, oh, no, I love the couple of them I heard. Oh, that was Antiva in disguise. Oh, my God. I know I saw that. Then they find the guys who were thing. They got them on their day. They look them up on their social media for the last six months or whatever.

They're a proud boy or this or whatever they are. So now they did that one. So now the narrative has changed. Well, it is possible that some of the people there were there to rile it up too, right? It's possible that some people were there. There's always a possibility. But listen, if you're that, there's also a possibility of what hasn't been mentioned yet. But most of them had been.

How do you know there weren't some Russian spies in there? And they were planting fucking goddamn devices in there. Totally. I mean, George Soros paid for all of it, right? George Soros paid all those people. Yeah, it's so fucking crazy. How do you fucking come up with this? No.

They're changing the narrative now to switch it to the Twitter. And the, you know, all the Instagram, Twitter, you, what's the other one I care? I just looked it up. Instagram. Pardon. Parlor? Parlor. Yeah.

And they're changing it. Oh, now it's a free speech issue. No, it's not. That's a fucking free country. To be a free country, that company can do whatever the fuck it wants. Right. Why is it a free speech? Tell me why.

It is kind of weird, though. It is kind of weird because of the age we're living in, the technology is we're living in. The technology is we're living in. Social media dominates everybody's lives. to where they have somebody sit back and say, wait a minute. Wouldn't you say most people have more interaction or communication on their phones

than they do like we're having right now? Absolutely. So it's kind of like we're teetering on this little edge where companies like Twitter and Instagram are almost like a public utility. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. How do you get that?

If there was one, that's a monopoly. If there's two, maybe a monopoly. There's 20. There's how many, social media. TikTok now. Another country's one. Blow up. China's. Fucking TikTok blew up.

And Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, fucking message. There's a zillion in them. It really are. If you start really getting down to them. And you can go to which one you want. So you're not being totally silenced or you're not being, just because you're not on the biggest one. Or you went and build this. Listen,

I have all of that. And I look at it as a tool, obviously, to communicate or whatever. Right. But if it gets shut down, it gets shut down. I go to the next one.

You know? Or if I don't like what I did to get shut down, I change it as of YouTube. If I do something on YouTube, that's where my main thing is. Right. So I'll change it. Or if it's not,

maybe I'll get to a different platform. Maybe it is a podcast. But everything is sense in its own way. So I don't think, Oh, this will never censor you. That's not this bullshit. They all put it in there so they can censor you. Right.

But that's up to us. You know, we laughed. I love your logo. It's kind of a you porn logo. The Pornhub logo. The Pornhub. Yeah. I like U-Porn, as you can tell.

Yeah. But I love it. And, you know, I was thinking about this when you said that earlier. And we started just talking. I go, look at the fucking platforms that never have an issue. Porn. Yeah. Have you hear anything?

They're actually just recently having lots of issues, porno. They just recently got like a $600 million class action lawsuit against them. And they had to... For what? I forget exactly what it was for. I'd have to read the article. Someone not getting fucked the ass the right way or whatever? Yeah, something like that.

Are you serious? Yeah, man. Yeah, they're getting... They're under the fucking... They're getting the screws tightened on right now. And talk about free speech. Why should they be? Because it's probably religious right pushing this or whatever it is.

They had to remove, like, a huge amount of their content from, like, people, unverified people uploading their own content and monetizing on their website. So now they're only allowed to have certain verified porn actors on there. And it's real. I don't like that. Oh, no, no, no. It's fucking them up. I don't see that what you point. And I think you, Pornhub owns you.

They're all the same. Pornhub is getting crushed right now. But I think, don't they own you, too? You porn, too? I thought I should. I think they're all connected. Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know.

I'm on it enough. You'd think I'd know. But there's a lot of, there's a weird thing. There's a lot of people that are really, really against the porn industry. I've had people on here. Well, that's people who don't fucking get hard ons anymore. You get wet in a pussy or something. I don't get it.

I really don't because, listen, that's, talk about free speech. Porn stars I have met, like female porn actress I've met, have the most character. out of most people I meet. I'm not sure why it is. I met male ones in the same way. I think it's because... They're normal people. What I've noticed is that

to do porn, you have to be desperate, I think. Disagree. I think that most people... I knew a porn star. I think... But a family through college did everything. Oh, totally.

But most people that I've met, that I've heard about, the way they got into porn first was they were innocent. situation that they desperately needed to get out of financially. And when you're that young... I got the money. When you're that young, say you're a young, hot, whatever, 16, 17, 18-year-old girl.

No, no, no. Please never go under 18. Under 18, okay, whatever. But it happens. No, those to me... See, I'm a very liberal person. Uh-huh. But when it comes to a child...

Right. I don't buy it. Well, whatever age, it happens. And I don't mean Ryan... Right. You know, let me give you a quick one on in prison. We used to, you know, child molesters are no good in prison, obviously. But I used to pull...

Chomos, is that what they called? I used to pull the paperwork. That means I used to get what charge they were. Ryan, 20, whatever, 21, fucking a 17 or 16, he had a pass. That wasn't even child abuse, we called it. That wasn't even any. That was free. Right.

You at 30, whatever. Yeah. fucking a 15 year old that's not good right so I know you look young right but your brain should be at least old now I know it's crazy you have to put a number somewhere

it's 18 19 20 you want to fucking do it you can fucking do it you're just just like the military you can shoot well that's a that's a whole other weird thing too because now you're you're letting the fucking legal system decide an age when biologically true

biologically people are different no no I 100% agree that because even... Girls, you're full mature fucking adult girls with a giant fucking rack and... At 15. At 15 years old.

Absolutely. Okay. Strip the government and laws away from our monkey selves. And in nature, that thing's fucking. Absolutely. Absolutely. But since we do have laws... Right.

Listen, you have a car. Why can't you drive a car at 16 or 15? Right. When you're a mature. Let's even go one better. Which drives me nuts. how can you tell a kid to go to the military at 18 and kill somebody you can't drink?

Right. It's insane. It's insane. If you're 18 years old, you got a fucking rifle, and you're in Iraq and you kill someone, you don't think their brains are fucked up. That's another whole topic. But why can't they come back and have a drink? How to get arrested because they're fucking underage, but they can fucking take up rifles

and defend the country? I don't buy that one. And a lot of countries don't either canada, they can drink at 18 or all that kind of show, whatever. But when I grew up, was 18. See, I don't know that feeling of that. When I was 18, I was in the service at 17. At fucking 18 years old, I'm in the boss, man. I was fucking, oh, 18 years old. I was, I was, I was the fucking biggest idiot in the planet when I was 18 years. I was still in.

Me too, but, you know, that's just a maturity though. Since we have to put a number on it, you know, and I do agree with you, you go back to some of the ancient times once the girl had her period, she became a woman. Right. And they had kids and this and everything else. I don't know what, but that's just the laws that came about. You know, and we have to have something. Yeah.

There has to be a base level. So what do you put it at? Right. My, my original thought I was getting to with the porn thing is that the pattern I see is that, especially with girls when they're young, say 18 years old, they're an abusive situation. They're living, they're dependent on whatever it may be. an abusive uncle. That's the only place they have to stay. But they got to get out of there.

When you're that young, what's the easiest way for you to make the most amount of money? Prostitution or porn? Drugs. Right. But that's prostitution and porn are probably the two most common things. Probably. And when you get into there, you can probably make the most amount of money doing that.

Then when you start to climb the letters, it would be more and more money. I'm going to disagree because there's not many 18 years. year olds who could do that on their own. And what I mean by that is, yeah, when you were to Pimp and you were in your construction, how do you find the guys and stuff, although the Internet has changed a lot. But are they smart enough?

Because if they're smart enough to set that business up, because it's a business. Right. And get someone to drive them and not get hurt and do everything else because they're all it is. Then they're probably smart enough to do something else. They wouldn't have been the situation or maybe they would. And obviously some just look at it.

it like you and I might and, you know, listen, I was always a person that sex is sex. Sex is sex. It's not the relationship itself. Right. You know, I think, you know, I often tell guys, listen, if, or a girl, I'll tell her. If you caught your husband getting a blow job, would you leave her? Oh, he's fucking done. I said, well, then leave now.

Because if your husband can go to a bachelor party and get a fucking blowjob and that's the end of your fucking marriage, then you didn't have deep relationship anyway. I mean, the sex is the fucking sex. We're physical. You know, you watch Pornhub. What do you do? You get a fucking heart on, right? Right.

Is that cheating? I mean, so you got the physical blow. Oh, but there's that level. Oh, it's okay. Now, I often say now differently, if your husband or your wife is in a relationship, right. Then there's something deeper. I mean, she wants the protection, the love, the whatever, the finance.

Whatever it is Whatever you weren't giving her And that's a whole that But if your husband goes out And gets laid He's in a fucking bachelor He's at a fucking convention And he fucking got drunk

And he got fucking Is it the end of all Some people are gonna fucking call you Right you and maybe me And say yeah that is the fucking wrong You know that's your own thing Yeah To me it's not

Right You know I don't believe I believe But you have to have that sort of deal I think ahead of time Yeah and I do Yeah But no

You have to have a mutual understanding of that. Well, that's communication. It gets back to that and all that kind of stuff. I'm a believer in, listen, we all are very sexual people in life. And a lot of things that may have fun, man. Too many people.

Listen, you know how I'm looking at it at my age? You're young. You guys are young. And which I love, I really do. I'm at the age where I know I'm going to live 20 fucking more years. I know that sounds morbid. It's not morbid at all. I'll be fucking 80 then.

I think you'll go more than that. I'll take fucking 80. healthy where I can get a heart on I can fuck do everything I want I'd take 80 I don't get 20 years left it's not a lot you got fucking 50 60 years though him he's you know

you guys have a lot in technology and everything so your brains are different your mind I'm a little bit different in the fact that I really understand my mortality because I've been I've been shot I've been stabbed you've been shot I've been shot and stabbed twice where'd you get shot right through the head

you never really? What? right in a robbery if anyone goes to my videos right the top of the right it went right across the top man blood was coming down here and my brother was shot in the back and it to the arm fucking yeah we had a fuck that was the getaway

if they go on my video on my YouTube go to my play do you know my playlist is one of the most watched playlists really the gangster edition series on my playlist if you go to my YouTube channel go to the playlist it's called the gangster I'm the only one who's ever took his book and actually narrated the whole book in chapter to chapter in the video.

That's what really got. That's pretty amazing. Yeah, that hook. That's what started this whole thing. Wow. But that's in it when I got the fucking getaway. It was a fucking movie getaway. The bullets flying.

It's crazy shit. So I look at my mortality different if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think obviously we all should. I mean, let me ask you a question. if you fucking found out you had six months to live what would you do hmm I had six months to live

I'd pay the doctor an extra couple thousand dollars get an extra six months yeah I wish it was Eddie yeah no fuck I don't know I love doing this man this is fun I love no I know you do but think about your life what would you do would you I don't know I hope there's things like I think I would go surf every single wave in the world

all the best way you know you're a big surfer spots and i did you surf Hawaii travel I've never been to Hawaii no yeah I was stationed there that's amazing I went body surfing I'll never fuck a dog oh fuck no man fucking kill you rocks in the reef out there my god I have a body so I ended up 100 yards down the day and I was a great swimmer yeah fuck it's never in there but you

I never surfed you know I used to say they can't put a cooler on that board I couldn't do it but the uh uh I asked people that question is because think about what you're doing now because you could die in six months. We all could, obviously, or something can happen. But if you're not at least

trying to obtain something, you know, a lot of people ask you, you know, what is success, right? And I was a multi-millionaire when I was a criminal. I had my own limousine, multiple houses, boats, horses. I was fucking multi-millionaire because I was robbing it. I fucking didn't give a fine. I was robbing a millions of dollars a year. So I fucking robbed 15-18 million.

Once you're giving a bunch of it to the mob, though? No, a percentage. Percentage. Not a bunch of it. Not a bunch. Okay. No, and I made a lot of money. I mean, I lived.

I lost $1 million in casinos gambling. I lost a quarter million dollars in two weeks. Oh, my. Cash. Fucking cash, right? I think I'm stupid. I am fucking now. Now I'm working.

But my point is, uh, I think people need to look, it's not just money. Because money doesn't make it. It really doesn't. Things make it or feelings or, uh,

adventures or whatever it is. You know, I had the houses, the homes, the boats. And my one sister says, you know, you're always searching for something. And she was right, because I didn't like a horse. I bought two horses. I didn't want this house, bought another house, bought another house, bought another house, put another. Boat a boat, bought a bigger boat.

You know, at what point is the thing? I like that you want to go surf somewhere and go do something. Or, you know, me now is more, I like interacting with people. I like to help people. I want to go see the country. I'm doing that with you. RV now. Yeah, that's awesome. I'm going away for five weeks, going up to South Dakota, going to Mount Rushmore, maybe the Badlands of Wyoming. So I'm going to do a few bunch of things,

take videos and stuff like that. I enjoy that. But I think everybody's got to look at that and say, what's their, what are they going to do in their own life that if they died? Like, if I died right now, I went home and you heard, Hey, me. You want to leave something behind, right? No, if I, no, I want to make sure, you know, leave something. I don't give a less we, you came into this fucking earth naked and fucking nothing gives the shit if you go out naked and fucking nothing. No, I think

you know, if I live, if I went home and you heard Larry had a car accident and holy shit, I hope you get on the fucking thing and say man, I had a great interview with Larry and you know what? He lived a good life. Because as much as I had the hard parts of my life, which I did obviously in prison and all that.

I also say I lived a great life. I didn't leave much behind. You know, it's not, you know what I tell people, and you can equate it to sex, to life, to anything. Don't ever lay on your deathbed and say I shoulda. Mm-hmm. I will never lay, and I won't, and I mean I should have had sex with this. I should have tried this.

Don't ever lay on your death and say, I should have. I don't mean, like, Morrow and Monroe, you know what I meant. Yeah. Trying something, doing something. I never want to lay on my deathbed and say, you know, I should. Or, and I tell people, don't wait. you're too old. Like you're 30.

Young, good-looking guy, have your life by the ball. Now's the time. Because there'll be a time when you can't. That's why I'm still lucky. I'm healthy. I can do things. My back hurts.

I have a very bad back. I back surgeries and stuff. Really? So I'll show you from the whole bottom. I got a zip up my whole back. Really? I had 15 vertebrae's done in my back. Oh, fuck.

Fifteen. What the fuck happened? Yeah. Look at a fucking crazy shit. Was it an injury? Yeah, I crushed my spine in the service. Oh. And I had that, here's for your camera.

Jeez. That's just the lower part. I have five vertebrates my neck. See if they could see that. God damn. Yeah. Yeah. Damn.

That's pretty fucking brutal, man. And, you know, so, and I've done a lot. So I'm a little bit good about that. You know, I've done everything. Can you still golf? Yeah. A little hurt. I hurt.

I can't. I used to hit a pretty good long ball. Now I'm about 225, 2.30. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Zanax after on the ninth hole. Oh, fuck.

Drugs. The whole fucking way. What do you want? Well, we'll bring, we'll welcome bring Xanax. We. Coke a little. Like it in. So much.

Like it in. Whatever you want. Yeah. A boxies and eight ball. There we're in. Absolutely. The, uh, I'm a believer. That's why I'm a believer in free sex, free drugs, free stuff.

Right. And again, responsibly. Right. I never say, you know, everything in moderation. Absolutely. Can't be stupid enough to kill yourself. You know, as I say to people in all addictions and anything,

you control it. Don't let it control it. Right. No matter what it is. Could be fucking eaten. Sex, drugs. I don't care. Alcohol, what are all the same.

Money. Money. Don't let it control. You control it and do it. Live your life. I'm a big believer in that. And until... And then live your life.

I mean, again, then don't wait until your 70s. I'm fucking, oh, I should have did that. I could have tried that old. I could have did this. Then you're fucking too old. You know what I'm saying? And I was always lucky where I'm a pretty free thinker. And free spirit, if you want to call it that.

And I don't give a fuck what people think, as you can tell. I'm saying it on the air So I don't give a fuck I really don't Because Unless you're paying me You ever fuck am I You judge me

Right You know I don't believe in judging anybody I really don't In anything I am no better than any man On this earth Or no worse I don't care who they are

How much money they make Or how good looking they are How big their dick is Or whatever the fuck it is We're all the same We all put our pants on the same way I've met mega celebrities He's mega people.

Nothing impresses me unless the person impresses me because of his smart. You guys impressed. You do. I was happy to see you guys. I watched a few of your videos. I didn't know how this would go. Thanks, man. But, you know, you're working hard.

I love it. Keep doing you and do your thing. And I love that. I love them people do that. Because now you're making something. Now you're going to look back. We had a great time. We did this.

We tried this, whatever. I've done it my whole life. And I always was for my, I always worked for myself, whether it was a mobster or not. But it's just, I didn't have that mentality to be constricted. You know, creative people can't be constricted. Right. If they are, then they're never going to be truly happy.

And you can be broke and happy as a motherfucker. And I appreciate that. And I've been, I hung out with some dude, man, he fucking, he had an old, old RV. I mean, 70. something, the little fuck. The happiest fucking, we were smoking ash. What a fucking good time I had with that guy. I mean, and boy, the stories where he went and this.

And he was truly happy. I sat back. I was fucked up. And we're sitting drinking and smoking and smoking. And, hey, hash, that'll fuck you up. Oh, fuck yeah, well. And I was so, I thought about that for a lot. I says, the happiest guy in the world, man.

he didn't need see that's another thing i don't need i had it the houses the homes the big my own limo and a driver i don't need that anymore i'm happy with the RV that's an old RV well it's pretty nice but it's not nice yeah you guys when it opens up it's huge man inside it could oh it extends out like the side

both sides like a full living room oh it's really both sides both sides yeah it's big yeah it's big we have to go out one day we're fucking yeah man We'll do an interview. I'll have you do an interview in my order. Oh, hell yeah. And then that's what it is. You ready to?

Before we wrap up, no, I want to get you to tell, what was your craziest jewelry robbery story? Well, the one with, we got the shot, you know, got right, you know, the guy come shot and fly, bullets come and flying and glass breaking and the getaway. Can you walk me through it? Like, how much planning was involved? Oh. Who, like, first, does someone come to you and tell you where to go? No, no, no, no. How does it work?

Well, my first robbery was a setup But after I got good at robberies I would get an area And I would know the area And I would literally case 100, 150 jewelry stores To make sure I got the right one In an area

And it usually took Case it means make sure the right Just to give you an idea You don't just rob a jewelry store I would know where the sun rises and sets So if there's glare in the window They couldn't see in Or people would be

blinded. So that was an important thing to get away, how close it was to other places, how many people. I used to like to rob in plazas when there was a Publix or a grocery store. I don't know where people are in around the world. Pathmark Publix, Win Dixie. Because the more people go and you can sit and watch that story without looking conspicuous. So I would make sure. And people are so fucking oblivious. They'd walk by and I'd be fucking a middle of a robbery but again I knew that the sun so they can't even look in. Did the jewelry store put display cases

that blocked where I can look in? You know, they make difference. I do that now. Sometimes I help jewelry stores jewelry prevention to help not get robbed. How is the back entrance? Can you get in and out? Can I park a car there? Where, what time are the people coming?

What time is the mailman coming? Do do police ever come by the area? What time every employee and what car they have? These are all things that I would know before I even did a jewelry store. Wow. And then know where the cameras were, where the buzzers were. Did they have what they call it? They had buzzers in their pocket that if they hit the buzzer and the part alarm would go off.

Is the door have a lock on it? I love those. I like those. Really? Oh, absolutely. Because then nobody else is going to come in. And they want me in. I'm coming in with a Rolex watch and a suit.

And they're going, man, this guy's got money. Let them in. But I would get to know them beforehand and know where the jewelry was in the store. There's so much to it. That's a whole show. Right. But when you case a jewelry store,

as a professional, you know, it was so crazy, people ask me to this day, could you do it? There isn't a fucking question in my mind. I can rob a jewelry store. tomorrow and get away with it. Really? I see them all the time.

Really? All the time. I could rob that fucking Jewish store. No question. Because all the knowledge, I mean, I've did so many. I've cased over a thousand jewelry stores, well over a thousand. And that means going in and out, knowing every fucking little detail. I go into a jewelry store now, and it's like a fucking sensory overload. Really?

I can imagine. You know, and I go, oh, man, this guy could be hit. You never just walking to a jewelry store and casually just looking at watches? That's got out. Well, I usually go with somebody, you know, for some reason. And because, first of all, they're the biggest cons, too. Oh, yeah. Fucking biggest racket there is.

And I remember one jewelry store. They were a lot. I went to the GIA Institute, which is the gemological of pseud America, just to know about diamonds. So they can't rob me. You know, my fence. couldn't rob me. I used to go into a jewelry store like I didn't know what I was doing. And the fucking owner would be fucking lying to me so fucking bad.

One guy was so bad, I said, I can't wait to rob this motherfucker. This fucking guy is really bad. He must have fucking stole more money than I ever stole from people. You know, there's a few things I tell your viewers here is the first thing you want to do is don't ever go to a jewelry store that doesn't have a 10-powered microscope. On the desk. 10 powered microscope. On the fucking counter where you can look at a diamond the right way.

Okay. There's certain things, if they don't tell you about, see, everybody knows the four Cs, but they don't know what the cut is. That's the most important part. Not, not, and I don't mean the cut, is it a round or a barquee or an air shape. I'm talking to geometrics, the geometry, how light reflects on diamonds, what makes them better, where you can get a really, good cut diamond and the light will reflect better so it'll be a less color diamond right but it'll be a

better diamond because it'll glow more shine more or be more brilliant because of the cut and how it extracts light i love it when they show you a diamond and go look at that and it's under a fucking light i'll make a piece of fucking glass look good take a diamond and put it under the table when there's very little light and see how it how it reacts so we And you would rob a jewelry store. Did you, like, were you picky of the shit that you took? Oh, no, no, I wiped the whole fucking store. You wiped out.

But I didn't rob the store unless it had certain things. Oh, okay. Like, there was usually, there always would be a loose box of diamonds. Now, the box would be about that big, like a card box, you know, like cards. And it would be all fucking diamonds. And they're all loose. Right. So it could be a carrot to two and a half care.

What are they called it, melee, melee diamond? I forget the word is. Mele? Maylay? No. Never heard that? No. Maybe I got that from the pawn business.

I got a friend who owns a bunch of pawn shops. Well, yeah, he's robbing people every day. Oh, yeah. They're all in the Caribbean, too. Oh, God, he's really robbed him. Guy gets off a boat. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but so, yeah, so you, that, those loose stones are what?

I'm literally calculating that thing in my head when he shows it to me. Then I'm looking in the store and whatever. having display cases, watches. I used to get Rolex. I loved Rolex. I used to get $2,000 of Rolex. The $5,000 are like presidentials. Right.

$2,000. I robbed 50 of them. It's $100,000. Wow. Without blinking. They don't even find it. Put them in a bag. I used to give him away his presents.

That's amazing, man. That's fucking amazing. But then the diamond, so I'm literally, then you watch where they don't put that box. A lot of times they don't put the box in the safe. It goes to a back room. another save, a false floorboard. Hmm.

You know, that's their money. That's what I want. I want that. Because the first question I would ask him, I'm looking for a ring, maybe a little carry. You know, further, I had a whole line of stick. I'd say, oh, I'm in the area. I'm a contractor. I'm in the area.

I had a nice suit, Rolex, gold chain, nice diamond bracelets worth $25,000. And I'd say the guy, I'd say, yeah, I'm in the area. builder and I'm married 10 years now. When I first got married I got my wife a little little rings. I want to look at some good rings. He's saying oh fuck I got this guy he's got money he's in the area

and I said well what do you have anything? I want to maybe have it set. There are any loose stone oh hold on after he sees you know they break out that box I said well let me start at the one carrot maybe I'll see how small it looks and I'm watching where he picks it out of that box

So if he picks it over here Mm-hmm Okay He shows it to me I look at it And all these bullshit Me with the price And the reins

Then he goes And I go Let's make it a little bigger If he goes this way Then I know These are all shit But if he goes the other way And he only goes up

A little bit Then I know All those are bigger Than two carry So I'm My brain is already Calculating that fucking box Oh shit

There's a quarter million My end Quarter million You know, way putting that. And my brain is working so differently as a criminal than, like, your brain would work. Right, right. You're not looking and say, oh, I can rob this. I mean, it was just, it was like, holy fuck.

So how did it all go wrong for you? What was it like the final one? The FBI were great fucking. Oh, really? They caught me. The FBI. Well, the last store robbery, a guy got out. A robbery happened.

We didn't notice. They robbed an air. conditioned off the unit. It was a plaza. Yeah. Anyway, so some lady heard some commotion, came up to the window and looked in the window and saw us. Then we knew we had to go. Go, go, go. Yeah. And we had a plan. Everything was planned.

But the guy, the only got out of his flex cuffs. And I already stole six guns out of him. His flex cuffs? You know, like the wire cuffs. Oh, okay. Yeah. Electrical wire things. Okay. He got out of him, and there was another gun. The fuck was a gun nut.

And he started, we're running out. All of a gunshots and the glass is breaking in front of it with running out and his glass he's shooting at us so listen we get now it's already planned i had every detail plan i get in the car and he levels the gun right at my fucking head in the wind shoe because the car was pulled in straight i duck as i duck the bullet goes through to windchill gets the top of my head and i didn't even feel it but then I see blood coming down my face but another bullet

he shots twice or that bullet my brother ducked and it went in his back into his arm it's still in his arm to this day holy fuck

we showed it online gee anyway and he goes I'm hit I'm hit oh yeah and I didn't even know I had the blood trickle down until I looked in the mirror

I'll drop you off the hospital goes no fuck that fuck that we went back to Brooklyn where this is in Pennsylvania so we went back to Brooklyn and in Brooklyn we fucking had an apartment you know like the mobs there's above the fucking bar and we had fucking people that changed the glass out of the car we fucking patched my brother up we clean me up

everything was good everything was all good and after we did that got them back but we little did we know the FBI flooded the area See, I didn't know the FBI was on me that big. Oh, they were already on you, huh? Yeah, for six years the guy was on me. Matt Moll was six fucking years. Good guy, too, nice guy. Yeah?

Yeah, no hard feelings. And he fucking, they flooded the area, they got me, and they ended up getting footage. They even had footage of me buying a cup of a, a fucking coffee at a Wawa store. That's how much, they confiscated every camera within, like, a mile or two miles of their fucking. area. You know, every gas station, I mighta went to every fucking thing. They went to every jewelry store that I might have cased and they got a lady go, oh,

there was a nice guy in here. And I got his plate number because I was going to sell him a ring. I didn't even rob that store. And then they, and they still didn't have me because I had the guy who worked for me. It was a fat, fat guy. Yeah. It was 350 pounds. Yeah. I wasn't 350.

So fucking, that's not him, but I was a co-driver. And then they looked my name up and I was organized crime. I already got pinched for having 35,000 cash in my glove compartment and six grams of coke. That's when they got you? Well, no, that was another time. Okay.

Oh, my God. So what do they actually charge you with? Racketeer. Rico? Rico. Hobzak, Rico. Damn. Rico is a Hobzak is interfering with the interstate commerce under the RICO act.

Now you can, now you could have murder under the RICO act. Robbery, like mine, robbery under the RICO act. Murder, yeah, murder. Oh, robbery. I had a guy on here, too, that said that he was, like, close to John Gotti. Oh, yeah, I know. Who? John A-Light, he said his name.

Oh, John Alight, you had him on this show? Yeah, you know him? No, I know. Of him. Okay, okay. Oh, yeah. He came here? He spends a lot of time in Tampa.

Yeah, he came sitting right where you're sitting. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He ended up ratting. Okay. Yeah, he ended up telling. Yeah. Now, who knows why in this.

I used to, you know, I, I, you know, You never rated? No. See, a lot of people, there's like a, I feel like I got mixed emotions about that. I feel like, because he, what this guy said, John O'Lyke said. I know what he's going to say. He said, like, there's no loyalty. Everybody rats on everybody.

It's not true. It's not true. But he is right. A lot of them are ratin. Oh, a ton of them are ratting. But that doesn't make you. Why should you? He does it your word.

Listen, I told you today. He said, basically, if, if 20 guys went out, went on the fucking stand and ratted him out and put him away, why the fuck wouldn't he to save his own? I know what he's, I know, but that's just a way to justify what you did. Let me ask you a question. I told you today, I'd be here at 11 o'clock. Yeah. Was I here? You were here. Because my word means something. Right. I went away for four 12 year sentences

and I was off at three years. And I had a 15 month old kid, a six year old son, and a lot of money. And I lost it all. You know why? because my word meant something. To this day, I used to look into that the fucking stainless steel. That's what it is in prison.

You don't have glass. Stainless steel mirror. And no, with nothing, remind you, they took every dime from me, everything from me. But my word was good. To this day,

I'm going to die with my word being good. When I told you I would be here, I would be here. Now, obviously if the RV broke or something, I have a phone, I would call you. That's why I even asked my son to make sure you get his number. Right. I don't, I think a word should mean something. Now, I understand why they do it that don't get into business.

Right. Now, and I understand, listen, I don't consider it. Listen, first of all, civilians can't rat. That's another thing. I tell you, if you're a civilian, you see a crime. You should go pick them out of a lineup. You should do everything the fuck you're supposed to. It's not ratting.

Ratting is you and Ryan fucking selling Coke. You getting caught and saying it was fucking Ryan to get out of the problem. That's ratting. I don't believe in that. Right. I don't believe. I did crimes. Nobody went to prison on my case.

Nobody. Really? No offense. Nobody. So he can't say everybody's ratting. Right. Are a lot ratting? Absolutely.

they're backstabbing each other. Sammy Gravano did it. He knows he probably told you all this. I don't know what you got out of it. Learned that. We didn't talk much about Sammy Grvano. He was with John Gotti Jr. Right.

John Elite. And he worked for the ball, John Gotti himself. Right. And they were all murderers. They did this shit and everything. This shit hit the fan and one rats after the other. And, oh, he ratted on me. He was going to rat on me.

I know he was going to rat. So I rat it first. Listen, why you did what you did and why you even got in that business. Yeah. Listen, I sleep really, really good at night. Yeah. It's not because I was the rough guy. It's not cause of that.

I feel, I sleep good at night because my word meant something. I'm okay with everything. Yeah, I caused a lot of damage. I didn't, I guess I never heard anybody that was in my business or any, you know, that kind of thing. I never hurt somebody just to hurt them or anything. anything of that nature. So you want to call that a justification. It's still not because there were people in the jewelry stores that were scared for their

life and all that. And I feel for that. I really do. I mean, can't change it. It's not like, oh, okay, you know,

you can ever change that. But I feel good because I know if I tell somebody and they call that face in the devil, I faced the devil and stood up to him, meaning the courts in the dead, you know. Right. I faced them and stood up to them.

Now, I could have fucking rated everybody out, my fences, everybody out. We got three years. Probably less. And been home, kept money, whatever. But you know what? I have a great relationship with my son, you know, and my daughter. I'm not married or anything like that. And I got a good relationship.

We're all wow. That's got to be like it's the hardest decision for a lot of people. Absolutely. It's got to be such a hard fucking decision. But it shouldn't be. Kiss my family goodbye. or keep my dignity or just tell on the scum bag

and get my life back. Yeah, but see, you're making it a scumb bag now. Yeah, I'm saying, but there's different ways I'm looking at that. Yeah, but what happens if it's some who's close to you? Right. I don't know who's close to you,

but whoever's close to you. Are you going to put them away? Right. At what, at what point, it has nothing to do with them. No, I see you. I see what I'm saying. Dan, it has everything to do with you. Nobody took care of me when I was in there.

The mob don't take care of it. That's right. That's all bullshit. Right, right. But it meant me. When I looked in that fucking stainless steel, I did it for me. Right. I didn't rap because of me.

Now, I used to hate them. You know, oh, fuck, I don't give a fuck what they do. Yeah. They got to live with themselves. Right. They could justify it all they want. They could lay in bed and justify the murders they committed. I had a guy on here tell me a story about how when he was in federal prison.

He was in there for like 15 years. He told me a story about. how he was walking the yard with some guy who basically got life and he was confessing all of his shit where he hid money he took the information and went and gave it to the feds and got money knocked up got time knocked off yeah he's like I would cut anyone's throat I could find like anyone gave me something I would cut their throat instantly yeah yeah yeah they call that jumping on the bus and they call it yeah it's called

a rule 35 I told you the lawyer yeah you get a rule 35 post conviction mm you know yeah and it was just never mind thing and I understand that's first of all I used to teach you. Don't shut your fucking mouth because you don't know what you're dealing with. Right. But I mean that's just being stupid. Right. But I think that all goes to the person that

like I said, I could leave here. Have a car accident. And you're going to say, you know Larry was a good guy. Whatever. Whatever. A hole. And I know the people around me know that. And I have very good friends that know, hey Larry, if Larry

tells you're going to be there, he's going to fucking be there. Because his word means something. Yeah. How much is it? Would you ever get into business with a dude who rat it? Fuck no. How do you trust them? Yeah.

If anything goes wrong. Trust is everything. If anything goes wrong. Oh, he was going to fucking steal the money anyway. He's the one who did the tax fucking thing. How do you trust somebody? Now, listen, again, I used to hate them, but I don't give a fuck about him anymore. I just do your things.

Yeah. Someone asked me, are you going to interview something? Sammy Gravano, right? Asked you to do it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, you know, I got a million. He's got $150,000. But he's up and coming. He was a big mob.

You heard of who he is. Oh, for sure. I said, no. And you know, Michael Friseese? Who's that? You should get him on his show. He's got 300, good, good show. Really?

And he's legit. He didn't rat. He took a plea, like, we all did. Uh-huh. But nobody went to jail in his case. That's all I can say. Okay. And you got into it.

He was a great guy. Okay. It's a good guy. Anyway, so, and Mike and I talked about that because we're both in the mob. Right, right. We were both with the mob, and we, same era, I was 10 years after him. He was born in 51. I was born 61.

Okay. But I knew of him. He was the richest mob's ever. He robbed $200 million a month, a month, $50 million a week, had the biggest gas scam in the world. What kind of scam? They were stealing gas taxes. What? Look at it up.

Just put gas scam. Holy shit. Put Michael Fred gas scam. Just mob gas scam. Okay. Michael Francis, he's mobs gas. Whatever you want to know. Anyway, so, and we talked about that.

He even, too, I said, you know, Michael, it's, I know every excuse they make for why they ran it. Everybody makes it. He was going to tell on me first. Oh, he was going to kill me. Whatever. Oh, they were scumbags anyway. Everybody was doing it.

And that's their way of justifying. whatever they did. And however they, and they do that to live. Because they never took, they took the oath to never fucking Omerta, to never do that. So they took this great oath, lived by it, killed for it. Yeah. But then when it came down to, they couldn't face it.

That's what I looked. They couldn't face that devil. Right. Now, I could have did that. I just didn't. And again, it has nothing to do with them. Something to do with me, the way I was raised by my dad. You know, don't tattletale.

You know, when you were a kid, don't tattletale. You know, it was just the way I was. And I do believe everybody has to make that decision for themselves. Now, I'll do research everybody I work with. And anybody had fucking did that. I just don't work with them. Right. I'm not going to kill them.

I don't give a fuck what they do. Go, go live your own life. I live a good life. Right. I'm very happy. Have a very happy life. porn hub. Yeah.

Well, whatever I want to do. I just think it's, everybody has to face their own things. And what happens to me, I think, Dan, is people are making justification for everything you want. And I don't know. Your word, I believe a person's word is all we have. All we have. Money comes and goes.

I'm telling you, whether you struggle now or you don't, money comes and goes. I know. A millionaire broke A millionaire broke Comes and goes And I mean broke where you fucking Can't fucking afford anything I mean credit cards

Everything's done Right And you make it You think good And things great There it goes Comes and goes But my word is never went

People who know me Will do business with me Because my word People who understand me Know that he's gonna tell you The fucking truth He don't give a fuck You know

I'm very honest about that You know Who I am Or whatever I am I mean, I'm private to a degree. You know, because I'm a public figure, if you want to call it. It's the foundation of who you are. It's extremely important, man.

Yeah, and when you lose that, then what are you laying your hat on? Right, exactly. What are you going to say that? Oh, yeah, like you said, I ratted. But he was going to rat on me, everybody. And he's right about all that. I'm not saying he's not right. I know who he is very much, though.

Yeah. I just, he did what he did. I wouldn't deal with him. I wouldn't do business with him and make a, you know, For what? Right. You know, why? Because something goes wrong.

There ain't nobody got your back. So why do you want to live like that? Yeah. Do you want, I don't want to live like that. Yeah, I mean, you're going to suffer to an extent. Depending on where your moral compass is, you have to live with yourself at the end of the day. You got to look in the mirror.

You got to tuck yourself in at night. Yeah, yeah. And you got it also like you got, like, every decision you make then is going to be, is it right? What's he going to do? How's he going to do it? You know, oh, man, we shouldn't do this. It's almost the same thing as a lie, right?

If you're a liar, you're always having to navigate your way through other lies and not get caught. You know, people ask me all the time about my going on shows, and you can go back and look here shows for 10, 12 years. Do I prepare? Fuck, no. I don't lie. Right. Ask me, what I tell you, did I ask you to, you can ask me anything the fuck you want? Anything.

because it doesn't matter to me because I'm not going to sit here and lie, you'd have to worry about a lie. Right. Or lied, right, you fucking look at any mile a zillion times. I don't get to fuck. That's awesome,

well, that's what makes my life easier. Right. Of course. You know, and people who can, he's worried, oh, did I tell him that guy?

Or did we kill that guy? And I told the feds this or not. You know, that's, that's not the way I want to live. Right. And people, again,

I respect you guys for your age and coming up and getting experience and doing it right. If there's any advice I give anybody is this, just be, listen, you don't have to be true to the public. And you don't know what I mean as a public figure, because you are, you know, obviously as an influencer. But be true to you. Does that make sense?

I don't give a fuck what the public knows about you. But when you look in the mirror, be you. Right. To yourself. Yep. It's most important thing. Obviously, you don't have to fucking tell you everything because you're the headaches of it. society and business or whatever.

That's one way. But long as you know who you are. Oh, yeah. And then you're going to live a great life. And I think everyone should know 100%. And I think that's important. Well, thank you for coming on and telling this, man. This was been a fucking amazing conversation.

I'm going to say straight out, I didn't expect this to be such a fucking amazing conversation. Why? I don't know. You're a fucking amazing guy, man. You're so fun to talk to. So easy to talk to. I appreciate it, man. You see that, Ryan?

He thought it was going to be a shitty interview. I didn't say shitty. I knew you were going to be. I knew you were going to be interesting just because of your story, but I didn't think we'd be able to have such a great conversation. I try to be just who I am. That's awesome, man. I enjoyed coming here.

You got to come on my show. I will. Absolutely. Tell the listeners where they can find your stuff. If they don't already know, which I'm sure they do. But in case they don't, tell them where they can find you. Sure. Larry Lawton, just go to Larry Lawton YouTube, Larry Lawton, or Reality Check Program, obviously.

But you'll find all links and all of our videos, all that kind of stuff. Just go to Larry Lawton and go on YouTube, Larry Larton. Just Google Larry Law. That's what you really got to do. Perfect, man. Thanks again, Larry. Thank you for having me. Goodbye, World.

Take care.