Danny Jones Podcast - #81 - Miami's Darklord of Credit Card Scams (Part 2) | John Boseak

Episode Date: March 15, 2021

John Boseak is a notorious cyber criminal & the most prolific manufacturer of counterfeit credit cards in the international cyber crime industry. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices....com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We're going to start posting each podcast episode that you see on YouTube a week earlier on Patreon. So feel free to join for early access to all episodes. Plus, we're going to start doing bonus podcast episodes every week. So if you want to join Patreon, it's patreon.com slash concrete videos. Next week's episode is already posted there. So feel free to go check it out. Hello, world. We're back for round two with Florida.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Florida's favorite credit card scammer, John Boziak. For those of you who haven't already watched the first earth-shattering podcast we did with John, he is a notorious cybercriminal and the most prolific manufacturer of counterfeit credit cards in the international cybercrime industry. Matt Cox actually met him in prison and wrote a book about him called Bent, which is linked below. Lace up your boots, boys and girls. We get into all kinds of crazy conspiracy shit on this one. Please welcome the Dark Lord of Credit Card Fraud, John Boziac.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Boom. John Boziak is back on the concrete podcast. What's up, bro? Back. Back again. What are you doing down here in Florida? Back again by popular demand. By popular demand.
Starting point is 00:01:17 By popular demand. The fans demanded it. I think we're at 325,000 views as of right now. On fire. As soon as we cut those cameras on the last fucking, that first podcast we did, I told you it was going to do numbers. Yeah, you did. Like I told you, I was like, this one's going to do some fucking numbers, for sure.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Imagine if you wouldn't ate 500 milligrams right before we did that. Yeah. It hampered my speech a little bit. We got a little half-time smoker right there, a little halftime doy. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, he brought it. I was going to call and ask me. I was like, I don't want to be like that, dude.
Starting point is 00:01:51 You know, like, fucking. Yeah. But obviously you know. Oh, yeah. We're good. We got you taken care of this time. Yeah, and you brought your lady friend with you? I did bring my lady friend with me.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Do you want to tell everyone how you guys met? Am I in this right now? No. They can't see you. You're in the wide shot. You're in the wide shot. That's okay. You can sit over there if you don't want to be in the camera.
Starting point is 00:02:13 No, yeah. She had seen the first podcast. Obviously, everybody's fucking seen the podcast. And she started, I guess, apparently, subscribed to my YouTube channel and started watching my videos and fell in love with me. It was love at first sight. Yeah, she fell in love with me. And then, you know, she went ahead and hit me up.
Starting point is 00:02:37 on social media. We started with, and then opened up a dialogue and, you know, we just got to know each other and, you know, now we're banging. Hell yeah. That's beautiful, man. It is beautiful. I'm touched by that. Cheers. Thank you, Danny. This is all, we owe this all to him. You could thank me later. Just invite me to the wedding. Liquid death. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Hell yeah. Our first, uh, legit sponsor. Liquid death. A water sponsor. We're moving up. I like the ice, dude. Is that credit card new? That iced out credit card? Yeah, I got the visa. I got the chase card. Nice. Hold it up a little bit higher so people can see it.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Damn. Yeah. You know, I gotta have the credit card. That's pretty sick, man. Super fire. The platinum chase card. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:03:23 So what's up? What's up with your life, man? What have you been doing ever since we did the podcast? It's been, what? It's been like six months since you came out of. I think would we do it in December, November, December or something like that? Is that what it was? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Maybe, I don't know. No, it was way before that. Yeah, I think it was. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, that whole thing Get a little bit closer to the mic That whole thing is
Starting point is 00:03:44 It's launched My life into a whole Fucking different direction man Like when I came here And did this first podcast I didn't have a YouTube channel You know what I mean I had 200 followers on fucking Instagram
Starting point is 00:03:56 I didn't have a YouTube channel I was You know what I mean I was just tattooing You know like I wasn't really doing shit Like I wasn't promoting myself I wasn't promoting the book really The book was just kind of doing its thing
Starting point is 00:04:06 And I did this podcast and it was like overnight, overnight craziness. You know what I mean? Like, I've done probably 15 or 20 podcasts since this one because people see the numbers that this one does and they want me to come on theirs
Starting point is 00:04:22 because they think it's going to, you know what I mean? So they all want to ride that wave. You know, so, you know, I did this, and then I've done everybody's, people are flying me out to Dallas. You know what I mean? I'm doing MSCS and up and, you know, down in West Palm Beach. I do that like once a month now.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I launched my own YouTube channel. I've got about 50 or so videos already up on my YouTube channel. I went and got a, I went and built a studio in downtown Phoenix. Like I went and rented like a legitimate office and I got the professional lighting, the mics, the fucking, you know what I mean? The good cameras. I'm running a Sony Alpha 6400s. I got, you know, a couple of those. And yeah, so I'm rocking and rolling, man.
Starting point is 00:05:03 You know, like this whole thing is just absolutely. It's insane, dude. Now I'm addicted. That's great. I'm addicted. It's amazing what it's done for Matt Cox, too. He really took that opportunity and ran with it. Every time I talked to Matt Cox on the phone,
Starting point is 00:05:15 he's traveling to some different state, some different country. He just did a commercial for some fucking home security company. Yeah, yeah. He's crushing. He's everywhere. Matt Cox is with a big deal. What did you guys just do? I'm trying to do what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And I'm kind of, I mean, he got the big ones. He got like the Vlad and he got fucking valutainment. You know what I mean? He was on like the real big ones. Yeah. You know, now I'm knocking out all the little guys before I can. get up to the big guys. Yeah, you'll get there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, no, I just did the Marty Ray Project. What's that? It's a podcast. He's a guy out of Nashville. He's got like
Starting point is 00:05:48 600,000 subscribers or something like that on his channel. He's, he's a musician, and he does a podcast. You know, I just recently did that. I just recently did Beck Lovers, a podcast. I did Tap End. I flew out to Dallas and did Tap End. I did, what was I do? So many. And then all the opportunities now that are coming up. Like I do, I wake up to 100 DMs on fucking Instagram every single day. Every day. It's just insane. You know, and then you got all the idiots that, you know, because they've seen the podcast,
Starting point is 00:06:18 they don't know, teach me how to do the fucking, you know what I mean? Teach me how to, you know. I made a whole video on that. That's just fucking absolutely bananas. Have you taught anybody how to do credit card? No. Well, listen, I'm charging. I was charging $1,000 a thousand dollars a consultation.
Starting point is 00:06:31 You know what I mean? Like, if you want to talk to me, you want to talk to me, you want to access to me. Yeah. If you feel like I have some information that's going to make you. million dollars and you're going to pay for it. So I was charging $1,000 a consultation. Now I'm charging $5,000. $5,000.
Starting point is 00:06:43 If you want to talk to me, if you want my time, now my time, it went up. Because now, honestly, I barely get any sleep, dude. I'm still tattooing at the shop, 8, 10 hours a day. And then I go straight from the shop to the studio and I record YouTube to 1 or 2 o'clock in the morning. You know what I mean? And I do that every day. And then I'm flying.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I'm doing podcasts in different cities. And then, you know, I got all these other shit I'm working on. You know, got the bigger projects. And it's like, I barely even sleep. So now my time is valuable. Hell, yeah. And before I had time to blow. I had time to burn.
Starting point is 00:07:13 You know what I mean? Now you've got to fucking pay me my money. How many $1,000 consultations have you done? Quite a few. Really? Yeah. Quite a few. Wow.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yeah. That's fucking insane. Yeah. Quite a few. Listen, I got guys flying out to feet. How do they get to hold of you? I got guys wanting to fly out from other cities to come sit down and have lunch with me. How do these people get a hold to you if they want to get a consultation?
Starting point is 00:07:38 They all DM me on Instagram, you know, and then we just go from there. Wow, what a fucking business. Man, it's pretty wild. That's pretty amazing. So you're still tattooing? I am, yeah. You know, I love doing it. And I make really good money doing it.
Starting point is 00:07:54 So why stop? Are you going to stay living in Arizona? You like it there? I think eventually I'm going to make my way back to Florida. So, yeah, but no, I like Arizona. It's nice. And, you know, the cost of living's low, but, dude, those summers are fucking brutal. We're talking 120 degrees, 125 degrees, you know, for four or five months out of the year.
Starting point is 00:08:16 You know, so, yeah, you know, it's just brutal, man. It's brutal. So I don't know if I'm going to stay there. And then, you know, I got other things going on, you know, business opportunities. And I'm looking at a lot of things, you know, taxes. And so I don't know. And I'm from here. I'm, this is my home and I'm comfortable here.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Yeah. You know, so I'm thinking about coming back. Are you going to go, if you come back, are you going to go back to the East Coast? Are you going to come to this coast? I like Tampa. South Florida is where I grew up, and that's where I got into shit at. You know what I mean? So I'm kind of, I might kind of just try and avoid it if I can a little bit.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I don't want to go too close. Yeah, I keep it somewhere up here. Maybe Orlando, Tampa, St. Pete, Brandon. You know what I mean? Clearwater. Yeah. Orlando's a great spot. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I was I going to ask you. What were you guys doing in Daytona? weren't you guys filming some sort of like crazy I was in Jacksonville. Jacksonville. I was in Jacksonville working on a bigger project than I can't really talk about. Tell us about it.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I can't tell you about it. That's the thing. What can you say? Can you give me on it? I filmed a, I may or may not have filmed a part of something that may become a documentary later down the road. And that's really I can, that's really all I can say.
Starting point is 00:09:30 So you're, They filmed something that is being pitched to big networks. Major networks, yeah. Cool. Yeah, yeah. That's pretty exciting. All I know is I saw that picture from Matt Cox of you wearing a robe, like smoking a cigar.
Starting point is 00:09:43 It was ridiculous. They had me in a mansion. And, you know, it's just giant fucking gaudy mansion. And they rented out. It was an Airbnb. Yeah, they rented out. It was like, it was expensive. Yeah, you know, they had me in a cigar and a robe coming downstairs and, you know, you know, all kinds of different scenes.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Listen, I've seen some of the stuff. they cut, they made me look way fucking cooler than I am. You know what I mean? They made me look like Pablo Escobar or somebody like that. You know, I just, it was just the cinematography and like the way they capture the light and this, the music and the way they're doing everything. It's, it's going to be fucking cool. And it's going to sell. How many days were you there filming? Five days. Five days. Yeah. I filmed every day. And how much can they possibly film in five days? I'm sure like many days of it was just B-roll and like cinematic looks type stuff. Well, we would, basically, we would film during the day. We would just film like, you know, interview.
Starting point is 00:10:31 view shit during the day or other things that we were doing like for the story and then like at night when we wrap up the day shooting we'd film like b-roll shit you know like cinematic out in the public and public or whatever yeah it was cool it was yeah it's a weird it's a weird thing how like now big tv networks and production companies that sell shit to tv networks all they're doing is just scouring the internet for like popular podcasts yeah to try to find content yeah listen i get i got approached by two different people from vice TV trying to fucking do something with me. They wanted, they had some kind of series that they were doing with people who
Starting point is 00:11:07 did major, like, crimes when they were younger and then turned their life around or some shit. You probably maybe have seen a couple episodes. I think they had one with a dude who was like, um, I apparently sold millions of dollars worth of cocaine or something like that in New York when he was a kid and they had some other dude on there. I don't remember his story, but I think, I think that's the series that they wanted me for. And it's like, I can't even, I can't do anything with anybody else.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Oh, because that company that you shot the pilot with, they got you under some sort of exclusivity agreement. It just wouldn't be right at the end of the day. It wouldn't be right because I think it would hurt me more than it would help. How long do they have you locked up in that agreement for? Do you know, we don't, six months? Six months, it's not bad. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Over a year, it would not be good. No. Because they can't sell it in six. If they can sell it in six months, that's great, but it goes longer than that. It's going to sell. It's going to sell right away. It's not even going to take six months.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Have they even started pitching it yet? I'm not sure where they're at in the problem. You know what? I'm hands off on this thing. Like, I don't call them and like, what's going on? What are you guys doing?
Starting point is 00:12:08 You know what I mean? Like, I'm just like, dude, you guys do your thing? You know what I mean? Like, I'm just going to sit back and call me
Starting point is 00:12:13 when it's time to collect a check. Get me up when you're ready. You know what I mean? When it's time for me to fucking make a deposit into my Chase account, then give me a call. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:12:20 because I can't control anything. I have no creative say-so and anything like that. And it's just like, I got so much other shit going on in my life that I just, I just leave it alone, dude. I let them people just do their fucking thing. And I think they kind of like that anyway.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a weird thing. What did you think about the whole process of, like, those guys, like bringing in all those cameras, setting up all that stuff and like, Corey, like orchestrating everything to make it look like some... It's a lot of fucking work, right?
Starting point is 00:12:44 I got to peek behind the curtain, man, you know, and I got to kind of see how the whole machine works, you know? And that's cool. Because you watch the behind-the-scenes shit sometimes, you know what I mean? When you do, you know, like, HBO behind the screen. the scenes and all that shit. But it doesn't do any justice when you're there.
Starting point is 00:12:58 You know what I mean? You got guys running cable running cables and changing lights around and, you know, putting up light boxes and, you know, like fucking shit. It's just the whole thing. And then you've got the sound guys with the, yeah, it's cool, man. It's cool. I can get used to that, man. I'm the talent.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Yeah, right. So I don't have to do no work. Yeah, you're good. You know what I mean? You want a soda? You fucking you're hungry. You know what I mean? I'm just laying back fucking in between scenes, fucking just, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:18 taking a nap or whatever fucking, you know? And then when they say, fucking roll camera, I'm, I'm, then I got to jump to it. You know what I mean? And that's my part I play in it. You know what I mean? So how many, Vice actually emailed you and tried to get you to do something with them? I had two different, uh, I had one, uh, lady reached out who said she was with Vice, but really she was with an independent production company that I think works for Vice.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Vice contracted him, yeah. And then actual Vice TV actually, because I ignore her and I just didn't respond to her, actual Vice TV reached out after that and, and, and, you know, I told him, I was like, Listen, as of right now, I can't, I can't do anything. I can't do any movies or TV. Podcasts are fine as long as I, you know, don't open the can of worms and, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I can't do any TV or movies or anything for right now. But I was like, in the future, it doesn't mean I can't in the future.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I'm just, I'm like, I'm contractually obligated right now. As of right now, I can't do anything. And, like, vice. I'm sure it'll pay me a couple grand to go wherever and shoot, but it's just like, that's peanuts compared to what I got coming. The big thing. Yeah. So I don't want to fuck this up with, you know what I'm. mean? Yeah. I know they did something with Matt Cox, but I don't know if I ever saw it. I don't
Starting point is 00:14:24 if it ever came out. They did, yeah. I think they did. Matt did something with him. I don't with Vice. Yeah. I never saw it. I remember what it was. He said. They flew him out and paid him like fucking fucking. Well, I think they shot at like in Tampa, right? I thought he said Miami. Was it Miami? Yeah. They flew him down to Miami. Yeah. Some mansion and shit. Yeah. Hmm. And they just interviewed them. They just sat them on a stool and fucking interviewed him and that was it. So if you did some sort of if somebody let's just say some big compass some big network bought this project that you guys shot what would it be like would it be like a serialized documentary would it be just a one shot like two hour film and see that's the thing that right now we just don't know you know what the format
Starting point is 00:15:04 yeah because it's like say they take it to fx x might want to make it into a series right you know what i'm saying or say they take it to hulu and hulu just wants to shoot it as a doc right you You know what I mean? Which it's cool because that doc could lead to a series or could lead to a feature-length film. You know what I mean? Or they could take it to, like, you know, try to attach like a big name to it and take it to like a big production company. And they could be like, fucking, let's just run with this thing and make it a feature film. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:30 You know, so all that shit's up in the air right now. Which is a fucking exciting. That's all this is even an option for me. You know what I mean? I think even a more interesting spinoff would just be you selling $1,000 consultations on Instagram. That's a documentary. I would love to hear one of those phone calls. Yeah, listen, I got to get my money, man.
Starting point is 00:15:49 If we did this live, we get people to call in live, that would have been amazing. I got to get my money. You know what I mean? At the end of the day. Don't you worry, though, about, like, if somebody did do some crazy shit and you taught him how to do it, that you could get in trouble? Are you still on probation? No, I'm, oh, you're off.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I'm nothing. Oh, so you're not locked down like Matt. Nope. They killed my paper, man. Yeah, when I went back on violation, they gave me nine months, and then they just cut me loose and was like, dude, you're not superviseable. apparently. That's what the judge told me. You're not superviseable. But I'm not
Starting point is 00:16:19 a bad way. So how did you get so for people that haven't watched the first, people that haven't watched the first podcast. Yeah. Give me like a brief synopsis of your whole case and then like the end of it. Like what happened at the end to where you got to where you are now? Sure. So 2009, I walked into a UPS store and there were two Secret Service agents
Starting point is 00:16:41 waiting on me. Um, the, uh, elderly gentleman who ran the UPS store, uh, took it upon himself to open one of my packages and find what I was sending out, um, which he wasn't supposed to do. He was supposed to contact the postmaster general. The postmaster general was, um, uh, you know, has the authority to come and open my mail once it's been sealed. So that right there, um, got 12 years knocked off my sentence. 12 or 13 years knocked off my sentence. They had to, they had to get rid of. of basically everything. Any of the evidence that they got because that's how they...
Starting point is 00:17:18 You know what I mean? Because they got it from a fraudulent way, basically. You got to throw all of that out, right? Yeah. Whatever was found from that process. Gone. Gone. So all the credit cards gone. All the equipment gone.
Starting point is 00:17:28 All the mail fraud. The only thing they could actually stick on me was the aggravated identity theft because I did have somebody else's driver's license with my picture on it. So I got the aggravated identity theft, which carries a mandatory 24 months. And that's what I eventually ended up getting charged with and sentenced.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And it took them three years to indict me. So this happened in 2009. I didn't even get picked up until 2012. Right. And they indicted you. Where were? You were in the northeast? I was in Tampa.
Starting point is 00:17:59 I was here in Tampa when I got picked up. I got fucking with the Hillsborough County Jail. And then they shipped me out to St. Pete. And I sat in St. Pete until they could extradite me all the way down to South Carolina to where I could see a judge. Oh, my God. Yeah. And then you went from South Carolina. back to Miami, right?
Starting point is 00:18:14 Because I live here, they wanted to send me to prison in my home state. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. That's why I ended up doing all my time in Ocala, up in Coleman, where I subsequently met Matt and wrote the book and everything. But yeah. Yeah. So then I served my time. I did my 24 months.
Starting point is 00:18:29 I get out. And I'm in halfway house in Miami. And then I did my halfway house. Did my six months halfway house. But it's like, when I got out of prison, I didn't have anything. Like, all of my shirt. shit had somehow magically fucking just vanished and disappeared. I had no clothes, no shoes, all my jewelry was gone.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Everything was fucking gone. You know, my wife, you know, I don't know. She fucking, you know, barely speaks English. And it's just like, it's fucking, it's ridiculous. So, you know, so I'm coming home to shit. I'm getting into a halfway house with shit. I was wearing prison, sweatpants, prison fucking Nikes. And that's all I had.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I didn't have anything else. Yeah. And so I had to get a job. I had to work for six months for $9 an hour. And somehow they were taking like, 30% of my net income before taxes, the halfway house was, which I'm like, you know, that's kind of a bummer, but it's, you know, it's better than sitting in prison.
Starting point is 00:19:21 So, you know, and I get to actually go out into the world and fucking, you know what I'm saying? Like, work. So that was cool. And I worked for like six months at the halfway house, and I saved a little bit of money. And then I got a, like, a fucking one bedroom. It wasn't even a one bedroom. It was a studio apartment in Little Havana.
Starting point is 00:19:40 It was on like 20th and Flagler. right by Miami High School. Right in the neighborhood I fucking grew up in, pretty much. And, you know, it was like $8.50 a month, which was like, you know, whatever. But it was like, dude, I didn't have a car. I didn't have no money. I'm working at a warehouse for like $12, $11 an hour. And I had to wake up at 4 o'clock in the morning.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I had to walk from 20th and Flagler all the way downtown Miami. I had to catch the very first train that leaves the station in Miami an hour north to high Leia to catch the very first bus leaving the bus station to go another, hour to my warehouse job. And then at the end of the day, I had to do all of that all the way back over again to get home. So I wasn't, I was looking up at 4 in the morning and I wasn't getting home until 10 o'clock at night.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I couldn't do it. Like, I just, I did it for like, I got out of halfway house in February and then by June or July, I was fucking over it. I was fucking over it. I couldn't do it anymore. You know what I mean? So it's just like, and I was hanging out with some people that kind of knew what I, all the money I'd made and what I had done.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And they had some money. that they were willing to invest, and I was like, fuck it, let's do it. You know what I mean? Let's fucking gas up for another run. I was like, dude, I just got out of prison for this shit. Dude, I was just like, I'm going to kill myself. I'm going to fucking, the landlord's going to come in, and they're going to find me stinking and fucking swinging from the fucking ceiling in this shithole apartment.
Starting point is 00:20:59 And that's going to be my life, and I'm just like, no. So if I have to go back to, if I have to risk going back to prison to get myself out of the situation, and that's just what I'm going to do, and I don't give a fuck. You know what I mean? That was my mindset. Um, shit went south almost immediately, uh, you know, some shit got sent to my house that wasn't supposed to get sent to my house. And then, you know, the fucking Miami financial crimes fucking unit was at my apartment, asking me a bunch of questions, you know, shit went fucking south. And I ended up
Starting point is 00:21:25 going back on the run, you know, like, absconding from on probation and going back on the run. I took off out to, uh, Nebraska because my wife disappeared and she calls me from Nebraska. And she just got my son. She wanted me to come out there and help her with my son. And I'm like, well, fuck, I'm on the run right now. She didn't know I was on the run. But fuck, all this shit just went down. I'm like, fuck it. I'll go hide out in the cornfields. Because there isn't shit in Nebraska, but corn and cattle. You know what I mean? That's it. There's nothing out there. Yeah. Now, it's a perfect fucking place for me to go out there and lay low and kind of, you know, just figure things out. So I go out to Nebraska and that just turned into a fucking absolute shit show.
Starting point is 00:22:00 You know, my wife was fucking, you know, she was on drugs and the whole fucking, the whole thing was just fucking bad. It was all bad. So somehow The cops end up coming to my house Because Off of some shit that had nothing Absolutely nothing to do with me Like somebody broke into somebody's trailer And
Starting point is 00:22:17 For some reason they put me in it You know what I mean? Like they said I had something to do with it And like I had nothing to do with any It's just fucking bad luck So the cops come to my house Wanting to ask me questions And of course they're going to run me
Starting point is 00:22:30 You know what I mean They're going to run me when they get there And I had a warrant So they fucking I went So I had to go back in front of the judge. You know what I mean? So then I'd get extradited all the way back out to fucking South Carolina from Nebraska,
Starting point is 00:22:42 which took another three and a half months. You know what I mean? Going on Conair and then, you know, Oklahoma holding facility and fucking, you know, back in Atlanta. You're in holding facilities across the country for three months. Yeah. Yeah. No commensary because you're in the shoe because you're only going to be there for a week
Starting point is 00:22:56 or two or three before they fucking ship you back out again. So you don't get commensary. You know what I mean? They barely fucking feed you, you know? So it was bad, man. So, yeah, I get back in front of the judge. And she gave me, by time I got in front of the fucking judge, I had already done almost nine months.
Starting point is 00:23:12 It took me damn near fucking, God, was it really that long? I think it was like six months or something. It took me to get back in front of the judge. Because for whatever reason, it was my luck. I got picked up right before Thanksgiving in November. And that's the worst time to get trying to get shipped around the country. It's between the holidays, because, dude, they're not shipping anybody. So you might sit somewhere for a month or two before the next fucking bus rolls out
Starting point is 00:23:36 to stick you on a plane to ship you out to Oklahoma. You know what I mean? Before you get designated and all that shit. So I finally get back in front of the fucking judge and she says, um, this bitch, I think I'm getting out at this point. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:23:50 okay, I just did six months on my violation. You know what I mean? Like my violation, in the federal system, there's different tiers of violations. You know what I mean? So my,
Starting point is 00:23:58 my violation was like a one. And it only carried like a six month guideline for the violation. I just did fucking six months. So in my mind, I'm going in front of the judge. I'm like, okay, she's going to give me six months on violations. She's going to wave her finger at me and kick me. Because that's all she can do. This bitch gave me another 30 days to think about it.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yeah. Yeah. Another 30 days. Your release date is 30 days from now. Wow. To sit and think about what you've done, you bad boy. You know what I mean? Fucking bitch.
Starting point is 00:24:30 But this was the golden lining in all of it. She told me, she's like, listen, we've, had to extradite you from two different states multiple times. She's like, you've absconded on your, on your, you absconded from your pre-trial release before you were even sentenced. You absconded on your federal probation, which you only have three years of. You're not superviseable. But you're not a danger to the public either.
Starting point is 00:24:55 You know what I mean? Because I don't have any violence in my, in my history. I'm not a raper or a fucking stabber or nothing like that. You know what I mean? So it's just like, I'm not going to hurt anybody. So I really wasn't a risk So apparently this is my takeaway from it She told me I'm not superviseable
Starting point is 00:25:11 But I'm not a threat to the community either So 30 more days And we're gonna go ahead and just kill your paper And they fucking kicked me out the door With no probation or no fucking nothing Dude, I was like woohoo! You know what I mean? Dude, I was like fuck yeah So it was kind of good that I violated my probation
Starting point is 00:25:30 And went back and did the six months Because or else I would have been on fucking paper for three more years. How many more people have you heard, have you heard of that's, that's happened to? Nobody. Nobody. Nobody. I've never, nobody.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I've never, nobody. I've never heard that happened in the fucking anybody. No. I know. Because there's tons of people that are locked up for non-violent shit selling little bits of weed here and there, whatever, whatever it might be. Yeah. Stupid drug charges. Yeah. I fucking,
Starting point is 00:25:54 you know, she was a, she was a cunt, but I guess she was being nice. And I, maybe I just thought, you know, in my brain, I'm like this bitch, but dude, she was just like, yeah, I mean, You know, it's costing the United, it's costing the government too much money to keep having to come and get you and fucking, you know what I mean? Because they got to, every time they come and get me,
Starting point is 00:26:12 they have to employ the U.S. Marshals. They can't just send the local sheriff to come find me. It's the U.S. Marshals. So they come in tactical gear and the whole fucking nine. You know what I mean? It's a lot of money, yeah. So I'm just costing too much fucking money. You're too expensive.
Starting point is 00:26:27 June 30 and get the fuck out of here. That's it, man. 30 more days, you're done. You know, because, I mean, listen, I had no criminal record. essentially before. I mean, I had a very eventful youth. Don't get me wrong. I was in, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:37 youth homes and boys' homes, but all that shit's sealed. So as an adult, you know, I had a few minor run-ins, you know, maybe some shoplifting in my early 20s or something like that
Starting point is 00:26:46 I got picked up for, but nothing, you know, so I had no criminal record. Like, I wasn't... Yeah, nothing violent. Yeah, that's my, assessment of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Yeah, you got lucky, man. Very lucky. What do you think, I mean, the process of getting out of prison, and going into the halfway house, then being on probation, then them taking a percentage of your money, and they don't make it easy to bounce back.
Starting point is 00:27:11 They make it almost impossible. They don't know how math does it. They don't make it easy for you, man. They don't make it easy for you. And if you are, that's why a lot of guys go back, man, because a lot of guys, they get out and they're just not mentally able to deal with getting a job. And you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:25 Like, they just don't even want to. They just want to go back to selling drugs or being fucking scumbags or whatever. You know what I mean? Like, they don't really. Honestly, I don't feel like they give you the tools necessary to be successful. For people that genuinely don't have anything or anybody and are coming home to nothing, like no safety net, though I feel like those people that are like in a higher category risk, I think that everybody should be assessed.
Starting point is 00:27:49 They should do some kind of like post-release assessment on you. You know what I mean? And there should be some kind of there should be programs set up in place for the people that are going to be in the higher risk category when they're getting released. People who don't have like a home to go to or don't have any. family, there should be programs in place for those people, but there just isn't. You know what I mean? They're just like, good luck. Not only that. Don't violate your fucking parole. You're going back to prison, pretty much. That's it. Right, but not only that, but the people, how educated and how savvy are the people that are
Starting point is 00:28:18 running the prisons and running the programs that are already in place, like your probation officer. How much of a fuck does your probation officer really give? No, mine was cool with me. Like, I didn't even... Right. He was cool, but, or she was cool or whatever, but how much, how much do they actually care? Are they doing this because that's what they want to do? Or are they doing this because... Sure, there's a few of them that are.
Starting point is 00:28:41 I think there's a few bleeding hearts that are really in it to try and help people. But then I think, man, you know, a lot of people just get into it because they, I don't know why they... I don't know who... What kind of person chooses to be a fucking probation officer? Or a prison guard. Or a prison guard. Like, it takes a certain kind of individual to go into that field. And usually it's not the type of individual that you really want to deal with on a daily basis.
Starting point is 00:29:02 I mean, most of the time. those people are just a fucking nightmare to deal with. They're just complete sticklers for the rules. They don't give a fuck. Here's the line. If you step on either side of it, you're going back to prison. There's no give or take. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:14 And, you know, after 20 years of dealing with fucking scumbags coming out of prison, you probably get worn out on it. You get worn down to it now. And you know what I mean? I don't have a sympathy anymore. You become desensitized. Yeah. And I think that's the problem with the whole criminal justice system.
Starting point is 00:29:29 You're just, you know, everybody's just desensitized, you know, and giving people decades in prison isn't a big deal. You know, it's super random, but I just heard that, who was the guy that was the CEO of Enron, who went to prison, and he just got out in 2018, and now he's already, like,
Starting point is 00:29:47 trying to raise money for some new thing. Well, dig this, man, The Wolf of Wall Street, Jordan Belfort. Yeah. That motherfucker's over in Australia with a giant fucking company, and he's in their political system. Is he really?
Starting point is 00:30:01 Swear to God, man. He lives in Australia. He lives in Australia. He owns a fucking company over there, and he's involved in their politics. I bullshit you not. Wow. That blew me straight out of the fucking water. I'm like, are you fucking, this fucking piece of shit is over there in their political system?
Starting point is 00:30:17 Whoa, easy. What if he wants to do in his podcast? You call him a piece of shit. Yeah, you know what, dude? You know, my bad, but. What if he wants to fly you to Australia? Yeah, I don't know, man. I just kind of fucking blew me away.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I mean, he's probably a nice guy. I don't get me wrong. I watched the movie, and it didn't really seem like he was that nice of a guy. Well, no, he fucked a lot of people over him. But they let him go to Australia and he could clearly operate by a different set of rules over there, right? Yeah, yeah. That's bonkers. Bonkers.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Yeah, I don't know. You think that people that did those kind of crimes, those, I mean, his crime is arguably a hundred times worse than Matt Cox's crimes. Mine and Matt Cox's crime put together. Right. Yeah, he was cleaning people out and he laughing about it. So, I mean, you know. Fuck. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Yeah. Yeah. Way she goes. Way she goes. That's the fucking way she goes. What is that from? Trailer Park Boys. You walk trailer park boys?
Starting point is 00:31:11 Fuck yeah, man. Every fucking episode, every season, every movie, everything they put out. I'm on it. I've been trying to tell Deanie forever. He's never watched one episode. I was just trying to tell her about it earlier, wasn't I? The trailer park boys. I was like, you've never seen the trailer park.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I did some quote from the trailer park boys. Yeah. She's like, no. That's what a nice fucking kitty right there. That's all I know. Oh, Bubbles? Oh, man. What a classic.
Starting point is 00:31:32 So what are you going to do for the rest of the time you're down here? Are you going to go see Matt? Yeah, I'm going to hang out with Matt and do some painting. He's going to give me some tips on the finer points of canvas painting. And I'm actually going to start doing canvas paintings on my own and then selling them, well, trying to hawk them to my subscribers. Which honestly, I put out a video even like I was suggesting that I was going to start doing this. And people were like, yeah, I'll buy them. I'm like, all right.
Starting point is 00:32:00 This is going to eat it all up. Let's fucking do it. And it is, you know what I mean? You've got to start making merch shirts and shit. I'm already on it, man. I've already got, like, I sat down. I'm a graphic designer. So I did, I did like 15 or 20 designs already.
Starting point is 00:32:11 And I'm going to try and fucking pick like the two or three best of those and get everything. People make the money, man. Get everything up. Yeah. I'm going to do a whole merch. I'm going to do a whole merch. I'm doing everything, man. I'm like, almost a thousand subscribers.
Starting point is 00:32:22 That's amazing, man. It's growing fast, man. It's growing fast. What kind of stuff do you talk about on your videos? You know, just life shit, man. You know, like whatever I'm going through or like maybe I'll be just be thinking about something that day and I'll just, I'll sit down in front of the camera and I'll go on like a 35 minute rant. You know what I mean? Like, and people, people love it, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I'm getting views. I'm getting, you know what I mean? Like, I saw one video you did. I watched it. I think it was earlier today that you were, you started out the video and you said, what the fuck did you say? You were really angry though. I think I'm going to rough. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Was I like, I don't fucking owe anything. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't owe anybody anything. What was that video all about? Pay me my fucking money.
Starting point is 00:32:58 No, some little fucking punk on fucking. Instagram hitting me up and demanding that I fucking tell him how to do fraud and all this other fucking crazy shit. Demanding. I was like, no, listen. I was like, listen, dude, I just don't have the time. I was like, listen, he didn't want to pay me what I was asking for. You know what I mean? I was like, listen, dude, I just don't have the time to sit down and explain things that people. I was like, listen, I work full time, I tattoo full time, I'm doing YouTube. And he came back, he was like, man,
Starting point is 00:33:22 fuck them tattoos, pull your panties up. He's, I was like, damn. All right, motherfucker. Wow. Wow. Yeah. And then we're doing all this. you. We're doing all this and then he sends me a voice recording of himself like you know what I mean like talking shit to me. On Instagram? No, well we were doing like on a wicker on this like a separate app or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I played it all on the fucking on my
Starting point is 00:33:41 on when I went off I played I apparently didn't watch the whole episode but I Oh yeah I played it fucking I read word for word Like our whole exchange and I played his fucking I put everything out there like fuck this little motherfucker Can you play it right now? Do you have it? It's on my tablet. Oh fuck. Yeah it's on my tablet. I didn't bring my fucking tablet
Starting point is 00:33:58 I don't have it on my phone, but yeah, no, it's fucking... Check out the episode. That's weird. I've come and, I've had people like that, like, contact me. Just, like, just to, like, talk shit. Fucker, who do you think you are? Motherfucker, you're going to demand some shit for me? Punk bitch, you don't know what I do with my day.
Starting point is 00:34:13 You don't know how fucking structured my life is and everything that I had to do to get to where I am. And you're just going to call me up and just demand that I tell you some shit. Yeah, you can't let it get to that. Go fuck yourself. That's why I, that's why I have this outlet. You know what I mean? Because I feel better. Like, I'll get down and I'll just go straight.
Starting point is 00:34:28 the fuck off. And then I'll just be like, as soon as I shut that camera off, dude, it's just, it feels like weights have been lifted off my chest, and it's just like it doesn't bother me anymore. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:38 It's kind of like therapy for you. And then, yeah, and then people like, my dude, I have a fucking fan base now, believe it or not. Like, it's weird to even, to even say that,
Starting point is 00:34:45 that I have like a fucking fan base now that people that watch everything I do and they comment on every single thing. So like, when I put one of these videos out and I'm like feeling like shit or I'm feeling a certain way, excuse me, I'm feeling a certain way.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Um, these people like, or like, oh, y'all don't worry about it, fucking bunch of assholes. You know, like, there's so much positivity. Like, nobody comes on my videos hating or talking shit or anything like that. It's always, I get no thumbs down, all thumbs up. That's awesome. I'll do, like, 75, 100 comments per video, three, 400 views. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:15 Like, and it's all positivity, man. It's all positivity. Yeah, people just wanting to fucking see me do more and more and more. Yeah. And I could, I just, like, I had no idea. Like, people were going to be this interested in me and my life. And, like, because I, I mean, I don't really think that I'm that. interesting of a person. Apparently I am. Yeah, you know, apparently. Apparently people just like to hear me talk. You know what I mean? And I may, you know, whatever it is, my personality, maybe I have a little bit of charisma or it's the way I break things down and explain things. You know, I don't know what it is. Yeah. There's something there. Well, people, I think people are attracted to that kind of story, like people like you that come from the gutter from the, the ugly corner. And, uh, you come up and, and you're able to go through everything you went through. And then there's something also about,
Starting point is 00:35:58 like scams people who have committed scams or frauds it's the zeitgeist of our time right now it's it's
Starting point is 00:36:07 all things current like whatever this little atmosphere we're living in with the fraud and the scams it's been um
Starting point is 00:36:15 how do I want to say it's it's like Hollywood now like before it was like just like an underground thing that only like a select few people like if you were a nerd
Starting point is 00:36:26 or you were into fraud you knew about it now it's like motherfuckers who aren't even doing fraud or scams are saying they're scammers and fraudsters. Just, you know what I mean? To be part of something.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Like, it's so fucking crazy. Like, these kids that reach out to me on Instagram, you should see their Instagrams. Like, they're taking pictures with all this money and all this shit. And then, like, I'll have a conversation with them. And it, immediately I know they don't know shit. They know absolutely dick. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:48 They're just fucking trying to be cool. Like, it's cool to say you're a scammer now. You know what I mean? All the rappers are talking about it. And then you got this guy fucking bandman, Cabo, whoever the fuck he is. I haven't watched any of his videos. Everybody's telling me, watch Band Man, Kevo, man, reach out.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I'm like, listen, man. Band Man, Kevoh. Apparently, okay, this is what I know about him. I haven't researched. I've never read anything about him. I've never watched. I've watched clips and heard him talk a little bit, but it's like, apparently he was some rapper, and he got caught up doing check scams for, like,
Starting point is 00:37:16 less than a million dollars. It wasn't even that much money, and he went to prison, and now he got out, and apparently he charged his motherfuckers $150 for fucking Face Times, and he's got his own YouTube channel where he tries to teach people about, like, fraud and fucking like CPNs and all the shit that's gonna send people to prison immediately Like he's like the go to guy
Starting point is 00:37:36 For scams and frauds now And like the hip hop community You know what I mean? Like he's whatever man You know what I mean? Like fucking whatever dude But I'm just saying like that's just how absurd All of this has become You know what I mean? And I don't want to be that guy I don't want to be that guy on my YouTube channel
Starting point is 00:37:50 Trying to teach people how to do fraud And doing the whole credit card thing And all that shit I just don't want to be that guy Yeah I want to be the guy making people, helping people make better decisions. You know what I mean? I want to keep people out of prison.
Starting point is 00:38:04 How are you going to do that? Well, I mean, I just feel like I have such a vast amount of life experience to draw from that, I mean, I can give good advice. You know what I mean? And I'm a straight shooter. I don't candycoat anything. You know what I mean? I'm quick to tell somebody they're full of shit or what you're doing with your life
Starting point is 00:38:21 is fucking meaningless and you need to do something else if you want to make changes. You know what I mean? Like, I just keep it real with people. I make videos about being successful and what I feel it takes to be successful. You know what I mean? It starts when you wake up in the morning. You wake up, you fucking eat the same breakfast.
Starting point is 00:38:35 You make your bed. You have a plan for the day. You know what I mean? And I just break it all down. Like, this is what you need to do to be successful. You know what I mean? You need to cut all the bullshit people out of your life. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:45 You need to cut all the things out of your life that are fucking causing you any kind of discomfort or harm. You know what I mean? I just shit like that. You know, like my guide to success. So I make videos like that. Like motivational type stuff. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:56 That's what I'm on, dude. just straight motivational, like, you know what I mean? All positivity, you know? That's awesome, man. Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah. Do you own Bitcoin? I do not.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I am not in the crypto game. You used to be, though, right? I was, yeah, in 2010 or 2000. I got fried for this, okay? Listen, all you little fucking Bitcoin nerds out there, I'm sorry, I fucking, listen, I was like, I think when I was telling the story, and, like, I was on 500 milligrams of edibles,
Starting point is 00:39:22 and I'm all excited. And I was like, I was like, I had Bitcoin in 2009, and then somebody in the comments like, well, Bitcoin didn't come out until 2010 and didn't get a name until 2011. So he's probably full of shit about everything else too. And it's like, dude, fuck you little fucking nerds, man. You know what I mean? Like, dude, it's one or two years. You got fried in the comments?
Starting point is 00:39:41 Oh, dude, in the comment section, I got fucking roasted. Like, and they just didn't let the Bitcoin thing go. Like, there's so many, there's so many. No, yeah. Listen, I haven't even read the comments under my podcast on your guys's channel. Every video of ours is like that. Yeah, I don't read it. I don't read it.
Starting point is 00:39:57 I read them sometime. I read them like the first 24 hours. And like Matt reads all of them. Yeah. And she reads them. She's like, no, they're mostly good.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I'm like, yeah, but you know, there's some fucking, there's some assholes in there. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, but you know, I was invested in Bitcoin early, man,
Starting point is 00:40:11 real super early, you know? And then like I said, when the, when the Secret Service confiscated my, all my laptops and my hard drives,
Starting point is 00:40:18 you know, all my keys to my fucking my wallets and everything were on there. Fuck. Yeah. I think I had somewhere around $2,100 invested in Bitcoin in, like, 2010 or 2011. What was the price of Bitcoin back then?
Starting point is 00:40:31 It was pennies or a couple dollars or something like that. God, imagine you'd have fucking millions. Oh, I would have half a billion dollars or something like that right now. $250, $300 million. You have hundreds of millions for sure. Yeah, yeah, somewhere like around that right now. And listen, I'm sick about that all the time. To the moon, Alice.
Starting point is 00:40:48 You can't even think about it. I know, I know. It's too crazy. I know. But it's just like, it's one of those things. Like, oh, whatever it is what it is, dude. Like, it doesn't, it won't, spending any kind of mental energy on that. No, you can't.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Yeah, yeah. So you don't fuck with Bitcoin at all anymore? I'm not into cryptos, man. I just feel like it's too volatile. You know what I mean? And I feel like, you know, crypto is, and until I can take crypto to publics and buy groceries, or I can take crypto to the Wawa and fill up my goddamn gas tank, or I can pay my rent with it, to me, it's not real.
Starting point is 00:41:15 And it's just, it's garbage. Because at the end of the day, you have to change out your Bitcoin for U.S. dollars. So the intrinsic value of Bitcoin is tied to the pretty much tied to the value of the U.S. dollar, which we know fluctuates, and which we know has, the Fed says 2% inflation per year, which I think is somewhere like around 5% or 6%
Starting point is 00:41:33 given the fluctuation of prices for commodities and what have you. Right. You know what I mean? So say I have a million dollars in Bitcoin, I have to cash it out for a million dollars in U.S. cash, which everybody knows that if you know anything about finance, cash is a bad investment. Nobody sits on cash.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Right. Because it loses its value over time. You know what I mean? It loses its purchasing power. You know, you get into fucking, you get into like tangible. And it's, you know, silver, gold, real estate. Pokemon cards. Oh, what do they call them?
Starting point is 00:42:04 NFTs. NFTs. Non-fungible tokens. Yes, non-fungible tokens. It is. And I've been fucking looking into that too, man. Have you? Yeah, like the Jordan Fleer card went up like 6,000 percent or something like that.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Like two years ago, it was worth like 300 bucks. And now it just sold for over $600,000. because of the whole NFT fucking phenomena. Yeah, so I've been, I've been reading quite a bit about that lately. That's just fucking weird, bro. What about the whole short squeeze on the fucking when they hit AMC and Game Stopping? That was hilarious. Talk about con men.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Oh, I was loving it, man. What a con job that was. Yeah, oh, yeah, you know, I think there was some shit with that, man. Like the fucking hedge funds were like, you know what? They called up fucking Robin Hood. They're like, you need to shut this down. Of course. And they did right away.
Starting point is 00:42:45 That was some Enron type shit right there. 1,000, you know. And I feel like fucking, I feel like, I feel like, uh, Robin Hood should be fine for that. Oh, he might be. Because, I mean, they were obviously intervening in the free market. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:58 So, yeah. Well, and that was hilarious, dude, them dudes lost so much money. All the fat cats were losing because they had to make, they had to fucking cover all their loss. It was hilarious, dude. You spent like 200 bucks on it, right? You bought, how many? Did you make out?
Starting point is 00:43:10 We got some. No, it's down right now. It is, yeah. What did you pay? It's climbing right now. Oh, I think we paid around 100 bucks. So you paid $100? So you paid $100.
Starting point is 00:43:18 So I think it's around the same. Did you get it? I thought you bought in for more than 100. We got some for probably like 111. I think it's right around the same right now. We might have bought some even after that. We bought a bunch of different times as it was going crazy. We just kept buying it.
Starting point is 00:43:33 What's it out right now? Like 90 bucks. It's out like 100 bucks. Is it? Yeah, I haven't been watching it. I was just following. Yeah, I was like that. But it was it like 50 last week, 40 last week.
Starting point is 00:43:40 I love it. Yeah. Yeah, but like I invest in, I'm like long-term investor. You know, so I do like blue chip, you know, stocks. I do like Apple, Alphabet, Microsoft. You know what I mean? Companies that I think are going to be around for a long time and that are less volatile. That's what I invest in.
Starting point is 00:43:55 And then, you know, gold and silver and, you know, I invest in those things as well. Like individual stocks, like the individual blue chip stocks like that? Yes. No, S&P 500. Like index funds or? No, I don't do the index funds. No. Why not?
Starting point is 00:44:09 I just feel like I would have to move my money around a little bit too much. And I kind of just, I like, I like hands off investing. Because I got so much other shit going on in my life. And it's like, I don't want to pay somebody to, you know, I don't want to pay somebody to, you know, I don't want to pay somebody to move. my money around for me. Well, that's the, that's the, the, one of fucking, the index funds are like the hands,
Starting point is 00:44:24 that's like the hands off approach. Because you're putting it across, you know, across all those companies. You're going to spread it, right? But then, but just like the height of what's going on and, like, right now with, like, the economy and, like, the country and the corona and all the the other shit, it's just like, so the little bit of money I did have, I pulled out and I'm just, like, investing in sure things right now, like technology.
Starting point is 00:44:42 And yourself, right now, like, we, we, right? The spot that you're at in your life, it's probably the best to just invest in what you're working on, right? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think technology is going to be the future.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I don't think you're going to lose with technology at all. It doesn't matter how, you know, the state of the union, it doesn't matter how bad things get. You know, technology is going to be our savior, I believe. I think it's going to be our savior. I think it's going to be our demise. It could go either way. I've seen Terminator, one and two.
Starting point is 00:45:11 You know, so yeah, I could go either way. I really, I genuinely believe that artificial intelligence, you know, machine learning, machine learning algorithms, rhythms and automation, all that's going to be the future and it's going to change our lives. I think it's... Tesla. Yeah, I think in the next, probably two decades, you're going to see more change than we have in the past 10,000 years.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Yeah, for sure. It's exponential. Exponential, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to change. You know, just, like, I don't know if you're how aware you are, like, the IOT network. Like the Internet of Things and, like, that whole rollout over the next fucking two decades with the fucking 5G and all that. So, so Internet of Things is, like, because of the, just how cheap.
Starting point is 00:45:50 it is to manufacture sensors and all that shit. So, like, everything's going to be equipped with a sensor that is then linked to the internet. So say there'll be a sensor in this fucking, in this water can. Yeah. And I'll be able to open an app on my phone and I'll be able to check the pH balance. I'll be able to check the temperature of the water. I'll be able to check when it was manufactured, if it's already been open. Like, there's going to be so many data points on everything that you're just going to be able.
Starting point is 00:46:14 It's going to be, all that information is going to be readily available to you. And not only that, all of that information is going to be captured. in mass and used to and then further the learning algorithms for AI. So it's like this whole, it sounds sci-fi. It sounds like some fucking, you know what I mean? Some Blade Runner shit, but dude, it's all coming. And you know what I mean? All of these, all of this technology already exists.
Starting point is 00:46:42 You know what I mean? It just hasn't been widely incorporated into our infrastructure and to our everyday lives. Like I feel like it's going to within the next probably 10 to 20 years. Are you going to get one of those Tesla sensors in your head? The Elon chip. Sign me up. What's the Elon chip called? Neurling.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Neurling. Version 2.0. You know what I mean? Let the first one come out and fry a couple of fucking brains. Let somebody learn how to hack them and just pop people's fucking brains real quick. You know what I mean? And then I'll get the version 2.0. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:08 They're going to use the first rollout of them for people that actually need them medically. Yeah. They're going to help blind people see. They're going to help fucking paralyze people walk. They're going to speech impediments, all kinds of. It's going to change our, it's going to change society. He said he wants to start taking Bitcoin for his Tesla cars. To Tesla just, it bought like $1.5 billion or something like that in Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:47:29 They said they want, he wants to make it where you can buy their cars in Bitcoin. Yep, in Bitcoin. So, I mean, you know, he's just trying to further the whole, because he sees what's coming. Yeah. And he's privy to things that all of us are not. I'm sure he sits on a few boards and he's got a few phone numbers and he knows about, you know what I mean? Like, so he sees what's coming before everybody else does, obviously. obviously. So he sees what's coming.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And it's going to be a technocracy. And our future is going to be a technocracy. Yeah. I believe, you know, maybe even in future, future decades, I mean, we're even going to eliminate politics is going to be artificial intelligence. You're going to go, our judges are going to be AI eventually. I mean, now you can see AI doctors. That's going to scary.
Starting point is 00:48:09 AI fucking therapists. It's going to be, it's going to be awesome. What are you kidding me? It's going to be fucking awesome. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. It's also going to be pretty terrifying. It is. And the government's going to know everything you're doing.
Starting point is 00:48:19 doing. You know what I mean? They're going to know where you're at and they're going to more so than they already do now, you know, but I don't care. Listen, I'm going to be able to go to the grocery store. When they put those chips in people and they eliminate all money, there's always going to be a sector of society and like all these fucking, these dumb rednecks that stormed the capital with the fucking idiot with the Viking horns on them. You know what? What did you guys think you were going to accomplish? What do you think we're going to accomplish? So, you know, you've got, you're going to have a whole sector of society that thinks like these people do. But guess what? I'm going to be able to go to the grocery store and buy groceries.
Starting point is 00:48:50 You're not. I'm going to be able to put gas in my car. You're not. You know what I mean? Joe Biden's going to have a camera in the corner of my bedroom and I'm going to say thank you. What? You can't fight it. What are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:49:05 You're going to give up your life for the cause? You can't fight it. These people have drones. They have predator drones. They have ICBMs, intercontinental ballistic missiles. You know what I mean? They can smoke you out of your fucking bed. while you're sleeping and you don't even know nothing about it.
Starting point is 00:49:20 You can't fight it. So, I mean, what are you going to do? Just fucking embrace it and try and, you know what I mean? Make your way through it, dude. That's all you can do. And I'm going to do it with a smile. Yeah, you just got to do the best that you can, I guess. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Shane's going to fight it. Shane don't fuck with any of it. Did he talk you into getting the chip? I'm going to be long gone by then. Yeah. Oh, you're not, bro? Ten years? I don't know of our generation.
Starting point is 00:49:49 That ain't 10 years. Yeah, I don't know. That's fucking decades. 60, 70 years. Yeah, yeah, I agree. That's after, you know, the first nuclear bombs detonated on U.S. soil. And by that time, all the people who are crazy that don't want to do that shit, they're going to be long gone. Yeah, that's coming.
Starting point is 00:50:03 It's going to come slowly over time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I think there's going to be some kind of incident in the future that's going to dwarf 9-11. And it's just going to completely change our society. The aliens? Unfortunately. I think, listen, I'm, listen, the other day, like about a week ago, I look. I live in Phoenix.
Starting point is 00:50:19 On the morning news, two pilots were flying in from New Mexico into Phoenix. They were just taking a plane, and you hear, they played the, because they were communicating with the FAA FAA tower. And he was like, listen, I really hate to say this, but something just flew right over the top of us. Oh, yeah, I saw that. I heard that. Yeah, and he was like, I really hate to say it, but it was a silver cylindrical fucking disc. He's like, something just, and dude, these people, that's 30,000 feet. Drones don't fly at 30,000 feet.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Yeah. They can't. They just don't operate that. They also said there was no sound. Yeah. Yeah. Like, they didn't mention what kind of propulsion.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Yeah. Like, if it was a, like a... A jet. Yeah, you would hear it. Yeah. That's weird. You know, those don't use jets? It's coming, man.
Starting point is 00:51:03 It's coming, dude. Like, listen, these, the alien... Whoever's observing our society from, you know, distance, from a distance, because it's, it, that's a thing. I'm almost positive. Not that I have proof. Listen, they're going to be like, listen, these little fucking hair, monkeys are really fucking getting out of hand over here. We got to fucking intervene.
Starting point is 00:51:21 They split the atom. You know what I mean? They're fucking making nuclear explosions. We got to get down there and intervene. Like something's going to happen, you know? I just watched this crazy fucking documentary where they were breaking it down. They were saying, like, they found a Neanderothal baby in a cave perfectly preserved. And they fucking, they took, they sequenced the DNA using like, I don't know if you're
Starting point is 00:51:43 familiar with CRISPR. Yeah. So they sequenced the DNA. and they were like, there's no way that humans evolved from Neanderthals. There's no way. Right. There's no way. Because in the short amount of time that it took for us, from Neanderthal to us,
Starting point is 00:51:57 it's just a blink of an eye. And it took, you know, about Lucy, right? Yes. The first fucking primate. So, you know, when they sequenced the, they couldn't because she was a fossil. So they were saying, like, the leap from Lucy to Neanderthal was like a million years. And they say that our DNA is so vastly fucking different from the Neanderthals that it would have taken just the amount of time.
Starting point is 00:52:18 It does something doesn't make sense. So then they're hinting at fucking, you know, intervention. Advanced, advanced evolution. We can do it with our technology now. Who's to say that a different civilization from, that can get here from a different solar system hasn't already accomplished fucking genetic, some kind of genetic engineering.
Starting point is 00:52:39 It's just, if you have the technology to get here from a different fucking solar system, you've got the genetics figure out. You've got that part of it. You got that figured out. So it's not really... I know it's insane to think about that, but it's not really that far-fetched
Starting point is 00:52:52 to imagine something like that happening, given what we know about... Is that what you believe? The human... I have to see more evidence. You know what I mean? They need to dig up 10 more fucking Neanderthal babies and sequence the fucking DNA.
Starting point is 00:53:07 I mean, for me... It's just, you know, I have to see more evidence. I'm not going to take that one study and be like, oh, I'm sold. Yeah. But it's just like... That's like a holy grail type question though, right? Like, there's like three questions.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Like, are we alone? Where do we go after we die? Yeah. And how did we come from? Why are we here? Those are, you know, those are some of the things that keep me up at night, believe it or not. You know what I mean? Like I probably spend way more time than I should thinking about those times of things.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Same. But it's fun. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, it's fun. Like, I enjoy it. You know, I get lost for hours sometimes just like fucking contemplating like all of those things, you know? It's fun.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yeah, the idea of some other beings coming down and like altering monkey DNA or chimpanzee DNA. It's sci-fi. To accelerate the evolution and create us, these hairless. A science experiment. Big-headed, blimp-headed beings. Yeah. I mean, that's. And then those Neanderthals, I mean, they have huge giant bodies and tiny heads.
Starting point is 00:54:09 And then we are like. Well, their forehead stuck out. Way bigger. Their jaws were a lot bigger. their brains were, you know, their whole physiology was just different than ours. I mean, they're homo, you know, they're of the species, but they're not, you know, we're just so much different from them, so much. So they're trying to figure out what happened.
Starting point is 00:54:27 What could happen that could change us in just such a short amount of time? Jesus. Well, yeah, that's a whole other conversation. Because, you know, you know, evolution is a product of adaptation. Yeah. You know what I mean? So you're in your environment, the environment plays almost a source. certain role in the direction of a species is going to go as far as their physical attributes
Starting point is 00:54:49 because, you know, certain, you know, things in nature activate certain fucking, you know, things in our genome that over certain amount of times allows us to exuberate, or I don't know if that's the word I want to use, but, um, display, uh, different characteristics. You know what I mean? Like, white people were white because we grew up, or we, evolved in in colder climates where there wasn't so much sun so our skins didn't you know our skin tone didn't develop melam more melanin and it to protect it from the sun that's why you know black people are black because they come from africa where it's constant sun so the melanin it's just the environment changes us physically you know what i mean so there's such a short amount of time
Starting point is 00:55:32 that they just don't understand how we got from fucking that to where we are now yeah so quickly so i mean yeah so it's like something had to have happened and there's nothing even remotely like us there's nothing that where we're fucking sneakers that can tattoo their bodies like designs on their own skin being self-aware to the points that we are
Starting point is 00:55:53 Where clothes? There's no other species That can even contemplate The things that we can contemplate The things that we can contemplate That can think about well how how Where'd I come from? Because that that's a big question
Starting point is 00:56:03 And that question says a lot about The human psyche and just where we are In our state of evolution You know but evolution's done We killed that with the industrial revolution And everything else because we control our environment now. So that's what I was saying about technology and about AI.
Starting point is 00:56:18 The next step of human evolution is going to be electronic. We're going to be fucking cyber. We already are cyborgs. You know what I mean? These things are never within our arms we reach away from you. Everybody in this room. You know what I mean? I sleep with it under my fucking pillow.
Starting point is 00:56:31 It's never farther than an arm's length away. Except the problem with the technology, the reason it's being innovated like it is, is just to make money. Profit for profit. It's the only reason. The only reason we keep making new iPhones every year. or keep developing new apps, new whatever,
Starting point is 00:56:46 is so they can just sell more advertising. I agree with you 100%. But I think that's the beginning. Because now it's the amount of technology and the things that are readily available to the small sect of people that actually do want to change humanity is those tools are now readily available.
Starting point is 00:57:02 So now we're going to start seeing, you know, giant leaps and bounds in like, you know, the medical industry with like health care and the, you know, the vaccines that we're going to, all they're rolling out and the new medications and all the shit that's coming. down the pipeline, I believe it's going to be a product of that. And I was trying to explain to my girlfriend, I think, a couple of weeks ago, and I was like, listen, when you and I get older, it's not going to be people taking care of us.
Starting point is 00:57:26 It's going to be robots. It's going to be robots taking care of the elderly, because they're already doing it in Japan, where they got the fucking robot that can scoop fucking the old people out of their bed and fucking take them to the bathroom and fucking, they're already doing it in Japan and China. You know what I mean? I haven't even seen that. Oh, yeah. You check that out. You heard of the Weevolver, W-E-E-V-O-L-V-E-R?
Starting point is 00:57:49 They're like a science and tech channel. And, dude, yeah, they got all kinds of crazy shit. But yeah, so it's like when we're elderly, it's going to be robots taking care of us, which I prefer. You know what I mean? I don't want some little 21-year-old fucking girl with blue hair fucking on her's telephone.
Starting point is 00:58:06 I'm over here shitting and pissing like I'm fucking choking on my catheter and she's on fucking Instagram. You know what I mean? I don't need that. She's TikTok. I don't need that. I need a cold, calculated fucking robot that's going to fucking do the proper things. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:58:19 To make sure that I'm staying alive. You know, so like I said, man, the future is going to be if we fucking, if we make it. You know what I mean? Because we might not fucking make it that far. We might explode the whole fucking thing. Yeah, this fucking game might be over sooner than we think. Why do you think it? Why do you think?
Starting point is 00:58:37 What would be the downfall? What would be our downfall? Would it be AI first? Oh, man. No, I don't think we even get. If we don't destroy ourselves by time AI comes along, I think we'll be all right. But I think it's going to be,
Starting point is 00:58:49 I mean, you just look at this past year. Holy fucking shit. Riots from coast to coast burning down every fucking city, fucking storming the capital, fucking the elections, the fucking virus. Dude, in one year, the whole world went to shit in one year.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Literally, well, it was in three months. Between February and fucking April of last year, the whole entire world went to shit. So you can kind of see how frail the society that we live in is all of these structures and these systems put into place that that give us this false sense of you know what I mean like comfort i mean just look what happened down in texas people were freezing the death in their homes because they're fucking because it snowed and their infrastructure couldn't fucking take it and people were freezing the death in their homes you know what I mean like it's the society there's just a thin veil of of you know what I mean the society that we lived in in in a Underneath that, it's just fucking pure chaos, and people don't realize that.
Starting point is 00:59:45 You know, so things can go to shit real fast. Think about an EMP goes off or something. Or, God forget, a solar flare, like the one that happened back in, like, 19... The one that had a solar flare about 110 years ago, but there was only the telegraph then. Fried every telegraph wire from coast to coast. So if that were to happen now,
Starting point is 01:00:06 we'd be fucking done. The whole infrastructure would come to a halt. The trucks would stop moving. moving, goods would stop moving around the planet. The internet would be off. It would be game over. So the people that don't know how to take care of themselves and, like, grow food on their own property and, like, all that shit, everybody else is going to die.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Because they're going to be eating each other. It's going to be Mad Max. Which took place in the year 2021, believe it or not. I know. How fucking crazy is that? We're not even close to that, bro. I know. Hey, 2020, is not over yet, bro.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Shit, man. It's early. There's no way we're going to advance that far in one year. God, damn. But, you know, it's just we live in a very, very frail society and I think it would take maybe one nuclear bomb going off in American City to fucking shut this whole thing down
Starting point is 01:00:47 or a solar flare. Probably a better chance that happens. What about the next pandemic? What about the fucking, you know, COVID fucking two that comes a couple years from now, you know what I mean? COVID came out of nowhere. It didn't exist before. And then all of a sudden it just killed fucking you know what I mean, everybody and the whole entire world
Starting point is 01:01:03 shut down because of it. Come on, I saw you? You know, you don't know what's going to happen, man. You know, there could be a million and one things that could take us out. There's a supposed to be an asteroid to fly by in like a year 2023 it's going to fly by it's going to come within like 150 miles of the earth and then it's supposed to swing back around
Starting point is 01:01:19 in 2020 2032 and they say if it passes through this fucking little window and so when it comes around in 2026 I believe if it falls within these two guidelines when it comes back around it's going to hit us
Starting point is 01:01:34 and that's it's a fucking what do they call it an alley an extinction level event It's called, yeah, yeah, yeah, I forget the term. I actually just learned about it recently. I did a podcast with a guy with an Harvard astronomer. Okay. Who, uh, basically him and a lot of his colleagues, they dedicate a lot of time to just looking out for these types of asteroids, these kind of like doomsday asteroids.
Starting point is 01:01:56 And most they don't even detect until they've already fucking are almost here or they've already passed us. He said that they have like plenty of time. And then he said they actually have like multiple ways. The bigger ones. But the smaller ones, like say the size of a school bus that will make it through our atmosphere and wipe out a fucking city. those they don't really catch that until they're fucking either here or they like in. Did you hear about the recent thing that was found that was noticed by the Harvard
Starting point is 01:02:19 astronomer Avi Loeb? They found he noticed a like a cigar shaped object that was spinning and went past us. Yes. And it was like shiny. Oh, Amuamua. Yeah, the Hawaiians named it because it was found at the Hawaiian observatory, right? Right. That they have in Hawaii.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Yeah. Yeah. And they were saying that it may not be. from our, it was interstellar, it was from a different solar system. It's the very first interstellar visitor we've had from a different solar system that's been observed.
Starting point is 01:02:49 And then they were saying because it was because of the elongated shape of it, that it may not be natural, that it may be like a, right, that and the fact that the, how reflective it was. Of light. It was reflecting so much light.
Starting point is 01:03:03 It was spinning that they said it was made of some sort of like metallic material, some sort of like metal. Yeah. Too bad we don't we don't, We'd have the technology to fucking... But it's crazy. Like all these Harvard astronomers, all these crazy astronomers,
Starting point is 01:03:14 these people that dedicated their lives to studying the heavens, they don't want to talk about it. Like he obviously brought this thing to public light and he's getting all his attention, but a lot of his colleagues, they don't like talking about it. They're like,
Starting point is 01:03:27 he even says himself, one of his colleagues, who's a lifelong astronomer, said he wished this would have never happened or it never would have been found. Yeah, it's pretty wild. They don't want to think about something extraterrestrial coming through
Starting point is 01:03:42 our universe. Yeah. And then we just, we got the Perseverance Rover, just hit Mars, just landed on Mars. And we got the first fucking helicopter, the little tiny fucking drone helicopter
Starting point is 01:03:51 that we're going to fly on a different fucking planet for the very first time, which is, fuck. I don't know how much you paid attention to the whole, the Mars thing that we're doing right now. Oh, I paid close attention to it. Okay, yeah, me too.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I've been following everything and watching all the documentaries. And I watched like live when they fucking, they dropped it down. They shot it and it dropped. And it was fucking cool, man. It was really cool. Super cool.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Really fucking cool. That place is crazy, man. Mars? Yeah, Mars. I don't know how we could. It's a trip. What is the, do you know exactly how they say that humans could survive there? They have to build some sort of like, well, no, they're going to have to do something
Starting point is 01:04:24 called terraforming. Terraforming, right. Right, where they, you know, take the carbon monoxide out of the atmosphere, turn it into oxygen, and then make an atmosphere. Yeah, it's the whole process. And in theory, they're going to drop these giant machines that are the size of fucking factories at different locations around the planet and then, you know, clean, kind of scrub the air and then kind of create an atmosphere.
Starting point is 01:04:46 But what they're going to do is I think they want to melt because there's polar ice caps on. There's water on Mars, liquid water. They've already found that. So they think a lot of it lies below the surface of Mars. And then so yet they melt the water that, you know, through some kind of process creates an atmosphere. So yeah, we're going to have to go up there and live in, you know, habitats.
Starting point is 01:05:06 You know what I mean? Like total recall. Yeah. That's a fucking good. You've seen the original Total Recall with Arnold Schwarzenegger? It's been a long time. Oh, man, that's such a fucking classic, dude. It's such a classic, man.
Starting point is 01:05:16 But, yeah, you know, it's going to be something like that, I think, in the beginning. And then, you know, yeah. So, I mean, it's just like, we have to get off Earth. We have to become an interplanetary species or else we're not going to survive in the long run. Because eventually the Earth's going to get swallowed up by the sun, and the sun's going to fucking, you know what I mean, go supernova and, you know, destroy the fucking all the, all the planets and everything like that. That's an eventuality.
Starting point is 01:05:37 That's going to happen. given, you know, it's, you know, 100 million, whatever years, but it's like, if you think about the longevity of our species, like we have to get out of the solar system. We have to get off this planet and we have to go figure it out, which we already are. I mean, they find new planets every other day that, you know, could be habitable. The crazy thing is, like, yeah, like, it might not be that far off
Starting point is 01:05:56 to get people to Mars, but it would suck living on Mars. Oh, yeah, I mean, so fucking cold. It's not even habitable, you know, and then the temperature swings and the dust storms and the radiation and the fucking carbon monoxide, but it's like, I feel like we have, this is going to be, we're going to have to do this to get, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:06:13 You know what I mean? It's like you got to crawl before you can walk, kind of deal. Right, right. So let's go ahead and figure out how to get to a different planet and sustain life and, you know, hostile environment, you know, with the technology that we have. And let's figure that all out, get a plan down, get a fucking, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:06:26 Get a system down for that. And then we'll make the jump to different fucking solar systems once we figure out the technology, you know, the vehicle that will get us there. Tell we can be able to slingshot through a black hole. That would be insane. Yeah, the, the Rosen, the Eisen Rosen, that was actually a theory by Albert Einstein.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And there was a name for it. It was called the Something Rosen Bridge, where it was like the black hole where you can fucking fold space and travel from one point to another. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was actually a theory by Albert Einstein. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Well, the center of our galaxy is actually like a giant black hole. I forget the name of it. Yeah, yeah. Something centaur. I forget what it is called. Alpha Centauri. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Elphisantara, I think, is the next, the closest solar system to us. That's not one thing. Yeah, but I don't know. Yeah. If we could figure out a way to travel through black holes to other solar systems. I'm still contemplating the simulation theory. I think all of this is just a fucking joke. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:07:24 Like, this is a fucking, we're on a hard drive somewhere and a fuck, you know what I mean? And some kind of fucking, uh, uh, uh, doesn't that conflict? Doesn't the simulation theory conflict with the, uh, super advanced? aliens coming down and accelerating the evolution. It does. There is quite a conflict. Yeah. So it's like, you know, pick one.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Which one you want to go with? Yeah, which one you want to go with? But it's like, there's evidence for both. And I know that sounds insane, but there's evidence for both. Like, there's all these major scientists coming out, like, listen, they're, like, fucking, what's his name? The black dude with the afro. Neil DeGrasse. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Neil de Grass type. Sorry, I didn't mean to, you know, I mean, it's like, so Neil deGrasse Tyson came out. Was like, listen, there's a fucking a high probability that, you know what I mean? This may all be a simulation. And even Elon Musk comes out like, you know, if given the amount of technology that we have now on any given time scale in the exponential growth, it's like why wouldn't we run simulations?
Starting point is 01:08:18 You know, why wouldn't we in the future run simulations of our past to try and figure out, you know what I mean? So it's like, if we could do it, I know it's a mind fuck. You know what I mean? It's a thought experiment. Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:08:33 But you know, you're right. Like NPCs, non-player characters and video games. like that whole thing like Vice City and the whole you know what I mean? Yep, yep, yep. You just don't know. Well, have you heard about, uh,
Starting point is 01:08:44 I forget the term for it, but you can basically play Grand Theft Auto and you can be, and you can talk to people. Like if you get in a certain vicinity of another player on Grand Theft Auto, you can actually talk to them through the mic. I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:08:57 I'm sure they were going to do that. And it's like I'm saying it's all coming, man. I'm sure you've seen Ready Player 1. Yes. I think that's the future, man. Like I genuinely believe something, along, maybe not to that extent, but I think something along that line is coming
Starting point is 01:09:10 within the next, probably decade or two. Yeah, the video game thing's freaky. It is freaky, man. It's fucking, it's getting out of hand now. It's getting out of hand. Yeah. Yeah. But the scary thing about it, though,
Starting point is 01:09:22 is, like, people that go on there and want to be anonymous, just like a boiled down version of, like, the comment section on YouTube. People who can just go on YouTube and just talk shit without any kind of repercussions or just, like, say the most fucking vulgar, like, fucked up thing
Starting point is 01:09:35 they could possibly think of. Yeah. If you, like, translate that into video games, and then that sort of have some, like, real-life consequence to it. You have to sort of, like, make it to where it has a real-life consequence to it. Dude, what was that movie with Bruce Willis? Sixth Sense? No.
Starting point is 01:09:47 In his element? No, no, no, no, no. It was called, um, um, we're, okay, everybody, every, nobody, okay, in the future, this is the premise of the movie. Uh, it's in the future. And everybody has a synthetic double of themselves. So nobody leaves a house. They just send their synthetic double out into the world.
Starting point is 01:10:05 And they, they control them. through fucking through like virtual reality. So yeah, it's, what is that movie? Yeah, I think I've seen that before. It's fucking wild. He's like in his apartment. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:10:16 He's in there. He's all fucked up and old looking, but his sim, his out in the world was like fresh shaving. He's a cop. And but he sends his sim out into the world. And then like there's this whole thing where it's a game where you can control other people where other people like you can physically
Starting point is 01:10:31 control another person because they got these chips, these implants in them. And do the whole thing is just fucking insane. Absolutely insane I wish I could remember You ever see black mirror? Of course yeah Yeah
Starting point is 01:10:40 That type of shit It is man Yeah it was a great movie Yeah That's shit That's probably what the future's like It's gonna be something along those lines man It's gonna be something along those lines of virtual reality
Starting point is 01:10:50 Mixed with augmented reality You know what I mean Mixed with fucking Neurrelink in our brain It's gonna be some kind of fusion I think of those three things That's too much I don't think I want to be here for all that shit man
Starting point is 01:11:03 That's freaky bro It's wild man It's like this is such a much mind-fuck when you think about it you know what I mean so sci-fi Matt Cox told me you're into you're into a lot of conspiracy theories I mean not all the conspiracy theories he said you're into all of them every single every single one of them not not necessarily that I subscribe and you know full how heartedly believe in all of them but it's like it's fun man yeah it's fucking fun at the end of the day to think that you know the clintons are fucking you know
Starting point is 01:11:29 killing children and fucking draining the adrenochrome out of their brains and there's lizard people that fucking run the government you know what I mean like the Ananaki, all of it's fucking fun. You know what I mean? It's hilarious. What's your favorite conspiracy theory? Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Dude, it would have to be probably the lizard people. The fucking, the reptilians. That's like the most insane one. Dude, that's like some David Ike shit. Oh, I love David Ike. Do you really? I love Davidike. I mean, I don't necessarily believe what he says is gospel.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Like, you know, he's a fucking... I just says some shit. I'm just like, all right. Or what about the dude, the ancient alien do? dudes with the fucking hair. Yeah. It's like, come on, you can't take that. You can't take that guy seriously.
Starting point is 01:12:10 You know what I mean? Fucking get a haircut, bro. And then I might fucking listen to you. Well, that's just fucking overproduce entertainment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I love the reptilian. The reptilian, uh, the whole fucking, that whole thing is fucking pretty cool. I fell down that rabbit hole on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:12:25 You see the, like, what is the gist of the reptilian? That's the one I have not paid attention to. So there's this, uh, race of reptilian people, um, that, you know, quietly pull all of the strings, uh, in our society. What is a reptilian person? It's... Basically what you would think it would be Like a big ass fucking lizard person
Starting point is 01:12:44 They got weird Big ass fucking crocodile walking around Yeah and they got like they got eyes So they show like all these videos Like people on like CNN And like you like on like Congress Like they'll have like uh Bloomberg or something playing
Starting point is 01:12:55 We're like all voting for Congress And they'll zoom up on somebody And all of a sudden their eyes will fucking blink sideways And they'll have like reptilian pupils and shit This is the kind of shit you get banned off YouTube We're talking about it. No it's all over. over YouTube.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Oh, yeah, no, I fell down a rabbit hole. Yeah, I've watched that shit before. They've done a pretty good job of not suggesting these videos anymore to people, but if you look for them, you can find it. Definitely. Well, that's a whole other conspiracy, why the YouTube doesn't want you to see these kind of videos. Oh, dude, I got fried on YouTube. They took one of my videos down and gave me a community guidelines fucking warning.
Starting point is 01:13:25 For what video? Dude, I caught an upper respiratory infection from wearing fucking masks. And I went to a doctor and he's like, yeah, he's like, he's like, unfortunately, I see this a lot coming in here. You know what I mean? people come in the upper respiratory infections because, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the moisture and the germs and everything, were you wearing one of the, the, um, surgical masks? Or were you wearing the, I wear the, I wear the, I wear the cloth, man, I don't wear the
Starting point is 01:13:46 search for that's why, right? Yeah. So I caught upper respiratory infections. So I made a video about it. I'm like, dude, I'm not wearing a more fucking mask. I'm like, fuck these masks. I'm sick. I got an upper respiratory infection from this shit.
Starting point is 01:13:56 I'm over it. And that's all I said. I wasn't telling people not to wear masks. I wasn't advocating for not, you know what I mean? None of that shit. They took it down and gave me a fucking warning, dude. I was like, no. I was like, no.
Starting point is 01:14:07 They gave you a strike? No, no, no, no. They gave me a warning. Okay. Yeah, then they say the next one's going to be a strike. So I'm like, okay, now I know. I got to leave it all alone. You can't, you can't do anything political, you know, unless you're their politics.
Starting point is 01:14:20 You know what I mean? The liberal left wing, you know, agenda or whatever. So if you're any kind of conservative view channel or you get fucking... That's not true. You get shut down immediately. That's not true. There's shit loads of successful conservative channels. Yeah, but, you know, you got to be careful about what you say.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Dude, they're trying to cancel everybody They're canceling They're trying to cancel Shapiro They're they cancel Shapiro. No How they're trying to cancel Shapiro? I'm telling you, man Like they do
Starting point is 01:14:44 They do shit with the algorithms You know what I mean? Because they can't outright kick you off So they play with the fucking algorithms And she'll listen I don't want to get put on some fucking list I'm trying to get my channel monetized Okay, let's fucking
Starting point is 01:14:55 I want to get put on some list here Listen, I love YouTube It's fucking the greatest thing in the world You know what I mean? And at the end of the day It's a private company Yeah So they can say and do whatever they want.
Starting point is 01:15:06 I know a lot of people are like, oh, free speech and this, that. You know, it's a private company that you can choose to use their platform or not at the end of the day. And that's the way I look at it. Right. But you can't really. You kind of have no choice. They've become a monopoly. You really don't have a choice.
Starting point is 01:15:21 I know. You have a choice. Right. Do nothing. Or use YouTube. Follow our rules or fuck off. It's a choice. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:28 And then, you know, and then the whole thing with, what was the other app parlor? Yeah, yeah. And then they went down, like Google was like, nope, you can't use our servers. Well, there, I mean, there's a lot of big successful political commentators that made a career during the Trump era that are left and right. Like, there's a lot of big successful, like, right-wing YouTube channels that are doing great. Like, you know about Crystal Ball and, oh, yeah, I love them. I love them. I watched her, I watched her every day. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:54 It is a little, I know, I see what they're doing. You know what I mean? Like, I see what you're doing, but I get it. And it's like, you know, so they're successful. You know, like I said, Shapiro's successful, and there's a couple other guys. What about Candace Owens? You like her? Oh, I love Candice Owens.
Starting point is 01:16:07 She's a fucking straight shooter, man. She doesn't give a fuck. She will tell you exactly how it is. Yeah. I don't know. I think she's a little bit fantastical at times. Of course. You got to play it up a little bit, man.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Do you see what Dave Chappelle said about her? No. When he tweets something? No, he did a whole stand-up skit he talked about it? I didn't, I fucking didn't catch that one. That was hilarious. You got to watch it. It's great.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Yeah. No, I love Candace Owens, man. What's his name? the other dude, the younger black gentleman from, um, he's all over YouTube. He's got the big truck. The Trump can,
Starting point is 01:16:39 he's all, Trump? Yeah, he's like pro Trump, super pro Trump, super right wing, fucking conservative. I don't remember his name. I was following him on Instagram and then I live in Florida? Probably. Sounds like.
Starting point is 01:16:50 He's from the south. He's from the south. I'm not sure if it's Florida. Everybody down here drives trucks. I know. Trump on the back. Everybody. I love it.
Starting point is 01:16:58 You get the billboards. shit out here. Oh, I love it. I live out West where it's fucking, you know, everybody hates Trump. And then I come out here and it's so refreshing. Have you heard of Forgiato blow? Of course. We talked about him, didn't we? Of course. I love Forgeado, man. I've been fucking, listen, he is a maniac. He had the
Starting point is 01:17:14 fucking speedboat out there with fucking Trump fucking with his, oh, dude, the flag, the, the, he was a fucking maniac. I'm so surprised he didn't get canceled. Because I think, I think they tried to a little bit, but it's like, dude, he's got so much pole. He's wacky, bro. He's wack. I love that guy. I did a little video with him before.
Starting point is 01:17:29 I know. I know. I've seen your guys this whole thing you guys did with him. Yeah, yeah, it's cool, man. I've been fucking with him and his music for such a long time, man. I remember when he was just coming up in Tampa. And he was just a young guy, man. He was fucking, you know, a little bit heavier. And he was fucking, yeah, I remember all his old school shit.
Starting point is 01:17:43 I haven't seen anything about him lately, though. Have you seen anything from my friend? No, I haven't either. Just from the Trump shit, the Trump, the boat parade. He was out like he said, he was out on his big ass. Yeah, but since then. I think his music's kind of fell off a little bit. Wasn't he out at the Capitol?
Starting point is 01:17:56 Didn't we see a video of him out there? Probably. Was he storming the Capitol? He probably was. I think he was shooting a music video out there while it was all going on. Oh my God, that's sucking that is classic, man. I saw it like fools gone wild or something. Yeah, you got to love that guy, man.
Starting point is 01:18:07 You really got to just give it to him because, you know, everything that I, everything that I, you know, everybody wants in life. I'm not going to say I, but everything that people want in life, he has. You know what I mean? He's got the fucking, well, he portrays that. I don't know if he actually, you know, owns them homes and them cars and, you know what I mean? Because I don't know, like I said, I don't know them. I don't want to talk shit on him. But, like, apparently.
Starting point is 01:18:27 The story that, you know, was on the street, his people had money. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then he owned auto trader. Yeah. He started auto trader. His grandfather started auto trader. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 01:18:36 It explains it. So I didn't know about that. You know what I mean? So it's kind of like, okay. So, but still it's like, so I don't know how much street cred, like how much validity it is to like his persona. You know what I mean? Because he kind of came from, but it's like, people that come from cushy
Starting point is 01:18:51 backgrounds can kind of be hard. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know I don't want to talk shit on the dude because I fuck with him and I fuck with his music. You know what he means? He's doing what he wants to do. He's doing what he wants to do. He's living in a life he wants to live,
Starting point is 01:19:00 and he's not afraid to speak his mind. And I admire people like that. It's probably one of the few hip-hop artists that are like super... He's the only one. Super hard Trump supporters. Him and, well, I don't know if Tom McDonald, you know, his... You know, Tom, the Canadian rapper?
Starting point is 01:19:14 He's got to... He just put out a couple songs that are making major waves right now. One's called Fake Woke. Or he talks shit on Eminem. He's got one line in it. I think it said something about Eminem was, used to be gay bashing and murdering his moms. Now he doesn't want a fan if they voted for Trump.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Like this whole thing about just this whole fake woke fucking insistent. You know what I mean? Like he's like, yeah. So he's like Tom McDonald's. And he's got a couple other fucking Chris Webby. I'm not, you know, if you're familiar with him. He's like super political about like the whole fucking fake woke culture. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:43 So yeah, I mean, there's a few rappers. But you see Mr. Potato Head is now non-binary? Mr. Potato Head is now just potato head? How far is this going to go? By the way, you still don't have health insurance. How far is this going to go, man? Tim Dillon tweeted that. It was so fucking funny.
Starting point is 01:19:59 I love Tim Dillon, man. I am obsessed with Tim Dillon. Dude, I watch his fucking podcast faithfully. I fucking, everything that dude does, I love it, man. Shane hates him. Really? I've never even seen him. I've never seen him.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Oh, man, dude. Tim Dillon is, Tim Dillon. He's just such a fucking funny motherfucker, dude. And he's all about, like, the conspiracies. Yeah, he is. He was on, he's like the gay Alex Jones, but funnier. Yeah, he did a podcast with, with Rogan and Alex Jones. And he left LA and moved out to fucking Austin.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Texas, yeah, yeah. He has dinner with Alex Jones and fucking Joe Rogan all the time. I fucking loved him, Dylan. I was on a clubhouse. You know her clubhouse? Are you on Clubhouse? Yep, yeah. He was on there last night.
Starting point is 01:20:35 He started a room on Clubhouse called Woke Ho's Trying to Fuck. I was in one room he had, should women own Bitcoin. Yeah. Should women be allowed to own Bitcoin? Yeah. He's so fucking funny. Dude, he's such a classic dude. I was on Bitcoin last night.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Today, actually, I read. ran a fucking room on fucking, Clubhouse? I'm sorry, yeah, in a Bitcoin, clubhouse. I was on clubhouse. I go on every day. And Tyler,
Starting point is 01:21:00 you're obviously, you know, Tyler. Tyler's like my guy now. Is he? Oh, he's like, yeah, he's my booking agent now. So Tyler's amazing.
Starting point is 01:21:05 He's everybody talking agent. I fucking love Tyler, man. Tyler is such a great guy. Listen, he will text me all day long. Contact this person. Reach out to this person. This person wants you on their podcast.
Starting point is 01:21:14 I'll reach out this person. This person, this person, I've already got like three podcasts. Just from Tyler. Oh, yeah, big ones. And, you know, every single day, and then I'll go on Clubhouse, and he'll be on there. Oh, yeah. So I'll join a room, and he'll bring me up to speak.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Yeah. Every time. He's like, can you bring my friend John up here? And then I'll come up, and then all of a sudden I'll just take over the room. Yeah, he has to be. Because I'll start telling my story and fucking, whatever the room was about, it just shifts to me and everybody's just asking me questions and I just take over the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:40 One of the moderators got pissed earlier today. She said, can we reset the room, please? Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, like, one of my, like, people I'm working with, one of my directors was on there. He was like, dude, you just took over the room. And then, like, some bitch came on, can we reset the room, please?
Starting point is 01:21:55 One of the moderators. And I was like, quietly leave. I'm out of here. You know what I mean? Fucking go to another room. Yeah, clubhouse is fucking. Oh, I love it. I fucking love it, dude.
Starting point is 01:22:05 What do you think so great? What do you think is the best part about it is? Dude, it's just like, it's so authentic because it's in the moment. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's just off-the-cuff conversations and it's live. And it's just like, you know, there's just all these ideas swimming around. And it's like,
Starting point is 01:22:19 I get a lot of attention, you know what I mean? When I go on things, I start talking about my story and shit, you know what I mean? So it's like, for me, it's fun. You know what I mean? Because maybe if I was just like a quiet bystander and I was just, even then it would be kind of fun. But dude, you get to listen to all these fucking CEOs and you get access to, you know, people you would have to wait for something to come out on YouTube or TV.
Starting point is 01:22:37 And all of a sudden they're right here in your pocket. You can pull them out. And I can go on here and I can, Tim Dillon's on here, fucking Rogan's on here. Tom Green is fucking hosting rooms every other night. I'm fucking, you know, hanging out with Tom Green. And, dude, he would bring me up to tell him. He brought everybody up that joined his room. He brought him up to talk.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Everybody. So everybody could have a chance to fucking bullshit with him and talk with him. I love it. I fucking love it. I want to host a room. Me and Tyler are working together. He's trying to get a couple of moderators that can bring big crowds in. And I'm going to do a room twice a week if I can.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Is Trump on Clubhouse yet? They haven't kicked them off that while. I'm showing a matter of time before he gets on it. Could you imagine? Oh, man. Dude, I tried to get into Tim Dillon's room the other night and it was full. Really? Yep.
Starting point is 01:23:16 It said room is full. What's the maximum amount of? I don't know. I don't know. It's got to be a lot, though. I kept trying to join it because room was full. And then I hit Tyler up because Tyler will ping me every time Tim Dillon does a room or he thinks anytime there's a room that he feels like I should be in, he'll ping me. And I'll jump on and sometimes the room will be full, but then there's like overflow rooms, which I haven't even figured that out yet. So, huh. Yeah. Yeah, it's a whole thing. I love fucking love Clubhouse. I bought an iPhone so that I could go on Clubhouse. What were you an Android guy? Oh, I've never owned any Apple products. I'm anti-Apple. I've been anti-Apple my entire life. Dude, I don't like the company. I don't like the product. I don't like the operating system. I just don't like it at all. I don't like anything about the fucking...
Starting point is 01:23:52 Jesus Christ, you're a rebel. Why? Listen, I don't know, man. Just how they treat their workers and, like, over there and just like their... Slave labor is the norm. I don't like the elitism that comes with Apple products. What about Google? All the dushy fucking rich assholes that have the Apple Watch and the new iPhone and the
Starting point is 01:24:10 AirPods and they make sure you see all of it and they got the silly little fucking interchangeable bands that all got a fucking match, you know what I mean? and some girls if you text them and your chat bubble isn't fucking green or whatever fuck it is with iMessage do they only do the whole thing's fucking retarded and i didn't want no part of it what about facebook what about google what about amazon i don't use facebook uh she she runs my facebook i don't have anything to do with it you know what i mean i don't i use google obviously i use amazon obviously but it's like so when clubhouse was exclusively only for apple i had to fucking i was like okay and now that i have the uh i got the fucking uh the 12 pro max
Starting point is 01:24:45 Damn, ballin. These consultations are paying... Woo-hoo! Look at that thing. I got the big bad boy. You know, I got to get the best one. If it's going to be my first Apple product, it's going to be the best one. And I can't go back.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I probably can never go back now. Yeah. I can never go back now. It's just such... It is cool. And you know what? Everything that I didn't like about iOS, they changed with 14, with iOS 14. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:25:11 It's like a lot of the little fucking just functionality things that I just fucking aggravated me, and I want to slam it on the fucking ground. Like somebody would pass me an iPhone and to look something up and I wouldn't even know what to do with it. But you could take it back, dude. I don't even want to deal with this. What do you think about?
Starting point is 01:25:24 I mean, the iPhone hasn't changed in so long. Do you remember when the iPhone first came out? I do you ever have a friend who had one? Yeah, yeah. I had a friend who got the iPhone as soon as it came out, the iPhone won. And it was just like this. For some reason, that moment,
Starting point is 01:25:39 I have it like seared into my memory of like how insane that fucking thing was. It was Bradford. Got it. Yeah. And he had that fucking iPhone. I remember, like, just like, bro, can I, like, play with it for five minutes? Look at it. Like, look at your texts and all this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:52 So crazy. Nothing has happened like that since then. I know. Nothing has come out that just changed the game so much. Changed everything. And that was a decade ago. Yeah. Give or take.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Over a decade ago, probably. When did the first iPhone come out? You remember? No idea. Austin, you know? Can somebody give that a goo? Yeah, Austin. You should know. Not much by maybe, maybe 11 or 12.
Starting point is 01:26:16 years? 2009? 2005 or seven? 2007? Yeah. I was fucking, that was the year after we graduated high school. So 14 years ago came out.
Starting point is 01:26:28 That's insane. You graduated 06? 06. I was 03. Okay. Yeah, so I mean, in 14 years. What the fuck's up? Why can't tech innovate?
Starting point is 01:26:37 I mean, what's up? Why can't we come up with something like paradigm shifting like the iPhone again? Yeah. Well, I think it's just, you know, the tech knowledge, Matthew Cox. Matt, where is Matt? He didn't want to come on this podcast. He didn't want to. No, he didn't want to because he's like,
Starting point is 01:26:51 no, then he's going to fucking make it about me or whatever. He didn't want to sell your thunder. Yeah, he's like, he just, you know, he had paintings to do.
Starting point is 01:26:57 He just had paintings. Yeah, I'm sure he did. Yeah, that's how he's paying his bills nowadays. Yeah. Bullshit. He just did a fucking amscot commercial.
Starting point is 01:27:06 You know, hopefully these paintings are going to be a whole new revenue stream for me as well. I've already got people that want, like the first one. He's like, I want the first one. You already fucking, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:15 I got people trying to commission shit from me now. So, yeah. But yeah. Bro, I want you to give me a tattoo. Yeah, we can do that. And listen,
Starting point is 01:27:21 next time I come out, I'll bring all my stuff with me. You'd be my first tattoo I ever got. Hell yeah, man. I put a video up on my channel. I tattooed myself. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:27:30 Oh, yeah, because I was supposed to have a client come in and I was going to film the whole thing and do a time lapse and, like, they bailed on me.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Really? And I was like, well, fuck it. So I just fucking tattooed myself and, like, film the whole thing and, like, did a walk through? What tattoo was it?
Starting point is 01:27:41 What did you do? Yeah. Oh, you want to see it? Yeah. Oh, hell yeah. Like a pirate skull. That's sick. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:51 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, film the whole fucking thing, dude, on my YouTube channel. How did you do it? Like, do you have to like... No, I just basically like this. Sat there like that. So you do it upside down?
Starting point is 01:27:59 Yeah, well, you got to start here and work your way. Right. Work your way down, yeah. So you obviously, like, put some sort of, like, ink on there first, some sort of, like, temporary thing that you can trace over that you draw. A stencil. Yeah. I use a stencil. I use a machine that, you know, I can, like,
Starting point is 01:28:14 print something out and then run it through a stencil machine and then it creates a stencil and then you put the stencil on and then you fucking yeah. Yeah. Who did the one on your head? My buddy, uh, Rory Rudy. If you guys want to check them on Instagram at Rory Rudy. That thing's insane. R-O-R-R-Y, R-U-D-Y. Yeah, he did my entire head, my neck,
Starting point is 01:28:32 everything, my hands. I'm going to the top of your head. What's the pain level on that? Ooh. On a scale of 1 to 10. Honestly, the head wasn't that bad. No? It was the belly. Really?
Starting point is 01:28:45 Belly, hands down, was the worst fucking agonizing pain I've ever been through my life. The head, I know you would think that the head would be just fucking brutal, but it's not. Really? No, the back of the neck was fucking pretty hardcore. I was pretty uncomfortable for me. And then, like, down in this ditch down here. Yeah. But yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:00 What is that right there? Is that God right there? I have, so I have Thor on one side and I have Odin on the other. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, no, the head honestly really wasn't that bad. There was this nerve. There's a nerve right here that went down and behind my eye.
Starting point is 01:29:13 Yeah. And every time you hit it, like, my eyeball felt like it was going to... Yeah, it was like... Whoa! It was hardcore, man. But, yeah, besides that little spot, it really wasn't... My head wasn't that bad. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Like, on the forehead, like, out here where these little leaves and shit come out. Yeah. And then, like, the Tyrannosaurus Rex kind of comes... Because I had to match it, so, like, the forehead was like... Why Illuminati? Why did you do the Illuminati eye? I know everybody, like, that's, like, the symbol for, like, the Illuminati, but, like, I kind of just view it as my...
Starting point is 01:29:43 The physical representation of my belief system. You know what I mean? Like the third eye and the fucking, you know, like the whole, I call it karma, call it law of attraction. You know what I mean? I just believe personally, like, I'm not, I'm an atheist. I don't believe in like the cool creation theory or, you know, God and heaven and hell and the deities and all that shit.
Starting point is 01:30:04 I don't believe any of that. You know, I think that's nonsense to me. I believe that there's some kind of energy that permeates throughout the entire universe and throughout all living things that you can tap into and kind of manifest things. My whole entire life, I manifested all of this into existence. I made all of this happen just through like visualization, you know what I mean, and just thinking about it.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Like that's, I owe all of my success in my life to that. So that's just my belief system. So that's why, that's what that tattoo means to me. That was my physical, that's the representation to me. You know, and I think science is going to prove all this in the long run. I think through physics and through like particle physics and like, I think it's going to prove it in the long run that, you know, like dark matter or whatever they're saying,
Starting point is 01:30:45 like, you know what I mean? Like, it's all going to eventually be proven. Hmm. That's just my opinion, though, you know, and I'm just some fucking asshole from Miami, some crazy, fucking, some crazy cracker from Miami, you know what I mean? What do I know?
Starting point is 01:30:56 Yeah. Yeah. That's wild, man. Yeah, you got to get back to Florida, bro. Yeah, I think I'm going to. I'm just trying to figure out, you know, the right way to do it because, you know, I want to still be able to have a YouTube studio,
Starting point is 01:31:08 you know what I mean, not at my fucking house. You know what I mean? Like, because I like, I like how I have it now. It's just like set up and it's just like fucking, you know, I like being able to go somewhere and record and then go home. You know what I mean? So if I'm able to come down here and do that, then I think, you know, I think I'll be happy.
Starting point is 01:31:24 So, you know, we'll see how these other major projects I'm working on kind of unfold for me. Yeah. You know, so it may allow me to, you know, financially do whatever the fuck I want to do. Yeah. You know, so, yeah. I'll figure it out. Cool. Let's take a break and smoke this spliff.
Starting point is 01:31:38 Let's do it. All right. Oh man Those two hits got me singing Well you guys run on like GH4s or something Yeah I mean I'm learning about cameras And everything now
Starting point is 01:31:49 Like I know about you know the SM7B And the fuck I know all the cameras And the different lighting And SM7B What the fuck is that I don't know I don't know cameras at all to be honest with you I don't even know what that is
Starting point is 01:32:02 Are you laughing back there right now Yeah he is He knows what a SM7B is What's the SM7B? It's like a black magic camera or something. You guys are all fucking with me right now. No, I don't know what the fucking SM7B.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Maybe I'm too... Maybe I took too many hits of that doink out back. What's an SM7B? What is this? Oh, this fucking microphone. Yeah. I don't know, bro.
Starting point is 01:32:27 I don't keep up with the names of all these things. What you're talking about? This is a sure SM7B. That's the model of the microphone. This is an industry standard for all podcasts. This is the Rogan podcast. This is the Ovan podcast. This is fucking your mom's house.
Starting point is 01:32:40 This is everybody uses the shirt. Yeah, they all use the same one. You should have known. Danny, you bought these things. Yeah, bro, I don't, I don't keep track of the model number,
Starting point is 01:32:47 though. These things are like $400 a piece, dude. I don't know. I fucking know. I wouldn't know the model number. You know what shit I had to buy to put in this thing?
Starting point is 01:32:54 Oh, I know. I just did it. Yeah. I just finished doing it. No, I know. Fuck, I know all about it. So you got the SM7Bs? Uh,
Starting point is 01:33:01 dude, I got the fucking, I went with the Road podcast mics. So not the SM7s. I didn't go with the SM7B, but I'm going to upgrade. I'm going to upgrade. Because I'm going to upgrade.
Starting point is 01:33:11 I'm definitely going to... All them $1,000 consultations. You better be rocking at SM7B. I know. I know. I know. I'm, listen, I got my training wheels on right now. I mean, you know, I'm just...
Starting point is 01:33:22 I'm so green to all of this. Like, before I didn't... I didn't know what an XLR cable was. Well, it's sick that you're trying something completely fucking new. You're a whole new universe of fucking professional work. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:34 It's not like being, you know, a tattoo artist or graphic design. or credit cards. No, it's not, dude. This is, you know, I'm learning that you just have to spend the money and get the right shit and do everything the right way or else the end product. You're not going to be happy with it. And me being OCD.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Well, you've got to start. You don't have to do all that shit right away. Well, in my mind. In my mind, I know. Well, I started with my cell phone in my car. If you watched my, like, my earlier videos, then when I first started my channel, I only had my cell phone. And I would just sit in my car because that's the only place it was quiet.
Starting point is 01:34:05 and I would turn on the lights because and that was the proper lighting. Yeah. And that was, that's where I did all my videos at. Yeah. This dude I had on the podcast a couple days ago. I was just telling you about the psychedelic guy.
Starting point is 01:34:14 He shot a whole documentary on his iPhone. Like a Trump rally or something like that. I got fucking tons of attention online. It was like a great documentary. You never would have thought it was shot on an iPhone. Yeah. But he doesn't care. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Yeah. Yeah. So like I said, I'm just learning, dude. I'm learning about the cameras. I watched probably a week or two worth of YouTube videos every single day about the comparison.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Harrison between the Alpha 6,400 Sony or then in my, because I had a price range. A what worth of YouTube videos? Like a week's worth. Like every day, all day. Like for a week. Just for the cameras. Just to figure out the camera situation. That many hours of YouTube consumption.
Starting point is 01:34:50 I was fucking obsessed. Like, just to figure out the camera situation. So, you know. Yeah, you can go down a dark hole trying to figure that shit out. Because I don't know what aperture is. I didn't know where the fucking ISO, but I didn't know any of this shit. You know what I didn't go to school for fucking film. I don't know about any of this shit.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Yeah. I didn't. Yeah. You know, so I had to learn all of that. And I had to watch videos about what an aperture was and about, you know, the, the different, how the, what the lens basically does is changes the way the fucking, the amount of light it's open, yeah. The amount of light it lets in and the over exposure for the shots and all, like, I had to learn all of that. I didn't know any of that. You know, so once I learned those things, I was like, okay, well, this is my price range I'm working with.
Starting point is 01:35:24 And here's the cameras that are in my price. So then I had to do all the comparisons, break them down. If I was either going to be the Sony Alpha 6400 or the Canon M50 or the Sony, uh, uh, uh, Z, Z, Z, uh, Z, Z, which I ended up getting two I got actually I'm getting the Alpha 6400 but I got the ZB1 is my main shooter That center camera is alpha 6400 These two are GH4s that's the best camera you buy
Starting point is 01:35:46 I know the Lumexediae They're so cheap They're like 500 bucks Yeah I don't know man like I did my research dude It was like I came down to the 6400 For the wide shots because you know That's a wide shot yeah for the wide shot camera And but I use right now for my up close shots
Starting point is 01:36:00 I'm using the ZV1 Which is it's a camera It's a point and shoot but it's in the higher price range it's in like a $1,000 price range and it was created by Sony is their first camera specifically for YouTubers
Starting point is 01:36:12 for bloggers and people who shoot YouTube videos and shit like that so it was specifically designed for that purpose and I was like oh it's fucking so I bought one of those and that's what I shoot everything on
Starting point is 01:36:23 yeah yeah that's what I shoot most cool all my content on yeah but like I don't even I don't even I'm not even editing in final cut or anything like that I'm fucking editing on a Samsung Galaxy
Starting point is 01:36:34 tablet S7 no fucking bullshit on a free program called N-shot I fucking bullshit you know that's how I edit everything That's great
Starting point is 01:36:42 The music, the fucking That's how I do all my intros Fucking everything You know all the mixing The fucking You know So eventually I'm gonna get a Mac I'm gonna have to
Starting point is 01:36:50 Or you know A gaming PC Because I like Windows And if I'm only If only editing video on it What the fuck doesn't matter I'm like to spend $2,500 on a MacBook
Starting point is 01:36:58 This is like a legit gaming PC We have over here And that thing works great Yeah I mean You can You can edit 4 Okay, but you without dropping fucking frames and all that shit on it. If you've got at least fucking, you know, 16 gigabytes of RAM, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 01:37:09 and a good fucking graphics card. So it's like, yeah. You know, so I can build one of those in my eyes closed. You know what I mean? I've been building computers since I was 10 or 12 years old, you know. So I got to go and build one of those and then, you know, then I'll get into final cut and then I'll get into fucking editing all the more. Well, final cut, but he only use that anymore.
Starting point is 01:37:25 What is it now? Premiere. Okay, that's what it is. Premiere. I think final cut went out of business. Okay. No, I don't know. Final Cut was owned by Apple, I think, but they don't make it anymore.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Maybe they do. They make, like, a more consumer version of it. So, like I said, I'm still, I don't even know that side of it yet. Final Cut's now, like, just to basically boil down to an iPhone app, I think. Okay. So, yeah, I'm going to, um, that's, I still have to learn the whole editing side. But, like, I feel like my videos are edited decently. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:37:49 Like, I do a pretty good job of fucking, of getting everything cut up now. And, like, since I record and I edit my own videos, like, I know, like, if I'm going to pause or, like, I lose my train of thought, I know to give a, like, a buffer in between my paws and, like, when I hit pause on the thing. Or, because, like, it's in that pause where you're going to edit at. You know what I mean? Like, that's where you're going to make your cuts at. And if you don't give yourself enough pause, it's going to cut the, it's going to make the jump from one fucking cut to the next, not kind of a little less seamless. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:18 You know, so I'm learning all these little tricks and shit, you know, but like it said, it's just like, I'm obsessed with it, dude. I wake up and I just do this shit all day long, every day, you know, learning about everything. The lighting is a whole other fucking animal, dude, that I'm just fed. That's the hardest part. It's also a really important part. Yeah, I'm fed up with it, dude. Every time I move a light, it changes the whole fucking,
Starting point is 01:38:39 then I got to change the ISO back, and then you got to fucking... You got to fucking... Well, I don't know if you've seen in my recent videos on my channel like the way my... I have like a back wall set up. Yeah, that's that wall, sick. Everybody digs the wall, man, huh?
Starting point is 01:38:52 Everybody digs the wall. I like how it's lit up. That came from right here, man. That came from right here. Where did you get that wall? wall. So I actually was watching a lot of YouTube channels like the gamers and so there's like this whole
Starting point is 01:39:03 like subculture of like just videos about gamers and their setups. So yeah for people listening who don't know what we're talking about it's like explain what the wall looks like. So I have like a faux wall in the back of me. It's like this crazy like 3D looking wall. I have PVC three dimensional PVC wall tiles
Starting point is 01:39:19 that I arranged in a you know a certain pattern behind me and then I got it lit up with LED or RGB floodlights where I can change you know the colors and do whatever I want. Yeah, and then I got, like, one, like, single stationary leather chair with my, you know, my nice table with the mic arm and the fucking, the mic boom.
Starting point is 01:39:36 And, you know what I mean? Like, it's fucking, I got legitimate fucking, you know, cinema lights, but it's just like, I think I have to go with, like, a soft box because I need, because the way my chair sits in the wall, like, I still want the wall to be. Yeah, you weren't lit up very well. No, I know. And it's like, I'm struggling with it, man. You one of those.
Starting point is 01:39:51 That's it's it. But I don't know. I don't know if the, like, right above the, like, right above the camera. like right in front of me and... So if you're sitting here, you're facing me and say I'm the camera. Yes. I'm the camera shooting at you right now. Say this is your camera.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Right. Shooting at you. Yes. This light ball is to the right of you. It's lighting up half of your face. It goes right down your nose. And there's a shadow that goes right down the center of your face. That's what you want.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Okay. It gives you more depth. Right. Yeah, yeah. I learned about that. Yeah. But one guy told me to put... And you already had the light on the back wall.
Starting point is 01:40:21 So you have a back light. Yeah, I have two lights. So I have one here and they're, you know, they're adjustable. They're the... I don't remember. And it's a soft light, too. So you want a soft light like that. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:30 And then you don't want to be directly, I mean, I can adjust the softness of my lights. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta fuck around with it. I know, man. Like I said, I just,
Starting point is 01:40:38 I wish I had more time because I got a tattoo and then like, yeah. It's like I've been thinking about just quitting tattooing to be completely. Really? Yeah. Why? Because I want to do YouTube, man.
Starting point is 01:40:46 Like, I want to make, I want to do content. Like, I don't give up fuck about anything else. Everything else. Like, the passion that I had when I first started tattooing and,
Starting point is 01:40:54 like, how I kind of feel now about, like, creating content for YouTube and, like, doing podcasts, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. And it's like, I enjoy, like, I love tattoo. It's been my life for, you know, forever, but it's like, I find myself at the tattoo shop fucking just wanting to leave and go
Starting point is 01:41:11 to the studio and fucking, like, oh, I got an idea. And it's like, fuck, I got this idea in my head. I could record this fucking sick video right now. But I have to sit here. What's the, what kind of ideas for videos you have? You have, like, just ideas pop up in your head and you just want to talk about it? Yeah. Just, like, talk about it.
Starting point is 01:41:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. just like societal shit, like, you know, issues going on in my own life, like positivity shit, like how to be successful, you know, like how to fucking, you know, be set goals and how important goal setting is in life and, you know, break that down and fucking, yeah, and
Starting point is 01:41:38 everything comes from my perspective, from my unique perspective, from my brain. Because we're all different. We're all different fucking humans. We all have different thoughts. And it's like this whole, you know, wave of fucking, of just being able to watch another human being and get their perspective on a different angle. And you're like, you know, something. don't even think about, you know, and I think that's just what I, what I do for people, because
Starting point is 01:41:59 you, I don't, I don't know if these people were weirdos, I don't know what the fuck's going on, but I would like to think not. I would like to think that all my, most of my subscribers are level-headed, you know, regular functioning adults in society. And these people tell me that I have a, I affect their lives. You know what I mean? Like, I helped one dude fucking, you know, get off drugs, literally. Well, he says, I don't know, he could be, the whole thing could be fucking bullshit.
Starting point is 01:42:22 But apparently I helped them fucking my videos, like the ones I made about like, I made a video about, like, substance abuse and about, like, you know, like, being addicted to shit and, like, you know, the mental process that I feel like you have to go through to get rid of the fucking addictions and, you know, all that shit. And he's like, dude, I, you know, I've been clean for X amount of days or whatever. And then, you know, I got other people that are like, listen, I wait for your videos. I have a reminder set. So, like, you know, I got one dude in Maryland. He said he's got the whole DMV fucking rocking with me. He watched, he works at the DMV and he's fucking got everybody at the DMV fucking, fucking, why, I subscribe to my fucking channel watching my videos and shit.
Starting point is 01:42:54 That's fucking all. So this shit's going crazy. It's going, I got people from Australia. I got people from the, from fucking, not Ireland, but Scotland, reaching out and just hitting me up on Instagram and saying, yo, mate, you know, we fucking down under fucking, yeah. Scotland, hey, mate. Oh, yeah, listen, I could show you.
Starting point is 01:43:12 I can show you. I can show you all the DM. I really wish you had that kid who was talking shit to you. I really wish you had his recording saved on there. I know. I know. You can do it. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:43:22 It's on a different. You can dig that shit up. It's on a different app on a different device. Okay. Yeah, so even if I log into that app on this device, it won't be there. It won't be in the fucking... But yeah, you know, so... Put your energy towards something positive.
Starting point is 01:43:33 It's what I'm doing. Not towards fucking... Ah, you know what? It got to me that day, for some whatever reason. No, I'm talking to that kid, not you. Oh. Put your energy... Look at, like, look what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:43:43 You're putting all this energy and you're obsessed with the cameras. You're obsessed with getting everything right and getting the letting right and talking about it and wanting to do it. And there's some people out there who just, they want to put all their energy towards some fuck shit like that. Yeah. Just to make, what, what is the payoff to try to be like, you know what? Fuck you. You got to tell me how to do this because you, whatever. Like, it's wild, man.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Like, people are just fucking, some people in this world are just burnt. Yeah. You know, and then some are just kids, you know, they just don't have, you know, experience. They don't have enough life experience to understand that you don't speak to people that way. And there's a certain way that you go about getting what you want. Yeah. You know. No consequences to do it anymore.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, they just don't learn these lessons, you know. So that's why, unfortunately, there's people like. Yeah. Yeah. That's why parenting is really important. I agree.
Starting point is 01:44:28 I agree. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this was a great podcast, bro. I agree. Thanks for coming down and doing it.
Starting point is 01:44:37 No, man. Anytime I'll fucking come down here, you know, whenever you want me here, dude, just let me know. I'll come and do this. Hopefully you can move here. Maybe you're going to move to Texas like everybody else. I don't know, man. Florida's just as good, if not better.
Starting point is 01:44:48 I think Florida's better than Texas. I've never really hung out in Texas. I'm a Florida Cracker, man, through and through. I grew up here. I went, you know, my whole, I've spent my whole life here. So, you know, I don't, I don't mind coming back. I leave all the time for, you know, a little bit,
Starting point is 01:45:01 but I always fucking end up back here eventually. Yeah. Cool, man. Cool, man. Well, to everyone listening to where to follow all your shit and subscribe and everything. Hell yeah. Fuck with me on Instagram, slum by nature. You know, I got, fuck me on Patreon, Bozziat Conundrum.
Starting point is 01:45:18 You know, subscribe to my YouTube channel, Bozziat Conundrum. And, yeah, I'm going to be putting out tons of content coming up. pretty soon. I got a lot of time coming up on my hands to go ahead and just kind of film what I want to film. I'm going to do a lot of behind the scenes shit as well for my Patreon only, so I'm going to have like a secondary set of cameras filming my podcast while I'm filming a podcast, along with, you know, some few other little tidbits here and there. So that's going to be available to all my Patreon subscribers. You know, and anybody that's, you know, rocking with me from the first fucking concrete
Starting point is 01:45:49 podcast, I really appreciate it because, you know, all this shit has changed my life. and yeah, so thanks for fucking with me. Hell yeah, man. That's awesome. What about the only fans? The only fans? You know, I haven't really figured out
Starting point is 01:46:03 what kind of content I'm going to do for my only fans, so I'm not really promoting the only fans right now because people have been subscribing and I haven't been doing anything and they've been getting pissed. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:46:12 Like, what's going on? You know what? So it's just like, until I figure out what I want to do with that, then I'm just going to, you know, I'm not really going to promote them. For sure. Cool, bro.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Well, thanks for being here, man. I really enjoyed it. Yeah, thank you, brother. All right. That's all, folks.

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