Danny Jones Podcast - #82 - Con Man VS the People | Matthew Cox

Episode Date: March 17, 2021

Matthew Cox is a true crime writer who was sentenced to 26 years in Federal prison for identity theft and mortgage fraud. Tonight he joins a RARE Koncrete live stream to answer questions from the fans.... Matt's channel: http://bit.ly/2EoqWnM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:08 What's going on? What is happening? They said they're ready to buy art. Matt Cox. Matthew Cox, we're back. We're back. No. Yeah, we are.
Starting point is 00:00:17 I don't think so. No. Liquid death. Sponsored by liquid death. No. Matt, turn your phone off. We're good. I don't think, I don't see it.
Starting point is 00:00:29 That's fine. You don't need to see it. You just need to talk. You need to pay attention. You just need to sit there and let us interrupt you for two hours, okay? bro, Jesus is. They hate you, fuckers. Oh, good. Let them hate. I love them when they hate them. I love them when they hate it. You must. You'd have to.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Right? I mean, I don't get... I still... All right. Turn your phone off, bro. We want me to do them. Just telling you. We're doing a live stream. Just focus on this. You old man? Your art. How you been, Matt? Thanks for joining the live podcast. The Matt Cox Stolen Art Auction number two. My audio's super low in my headphones.
Starting point is 00:01:12 That's good. That's better. I thought you did this for a living. Put your headphones on. Oh. Yeah, we do. You see this awesome computer we got? What happened to thank you and please? And, hey, could you please do, you know?
Starting point is 00:01:23 I mean. Not from Dan. You ain't getting that from Dan. Sorry, bro. Ridiculous. A fuckle cuck sucker. How you been? I bet this is great with the headphones.
Starting point is 00:01:33 What are we doing here today, Matt? Tell the audience why we're here. I don't know. You called me and said. We're going to auction off a bunch of your art. Your beautiful paintings back here. I don't know of auctioning off. I have a lot.
Starting point is 00:01:42 price. You have a auction. I just have a price and I've got like 10 of these and you got
Starting point is 00:01:50 to show them in front of the camera. You got to bring one close. We will. Okay. So I have 10
Starting point is 00:01:55 of these. I want a 275 for each one and I'll and that includes me mailing to you anywhere within the
Starting point is 00:02:04 United States or the continental United States. So if you're in Hawaii or Puerto Rico, you're hit. but you know whatever i'll mail it to california new york or whatever
Starting point is 00:02:16 cool so explain to me oh also you're going to be doing uh live portraits commissioned portraits where did you come in portraits you just said bring some you said to do some sketches so let me explain i uh i thought it would be a great idea to have matt cox bring in some blank canvases so all you beautiful viewers online can commission matt live to do a drawing for you he brought some paint markers so you can do some live drawings for the chat people in the chat. You've been working out? No. My shirt's just super tight today.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Somebody donated 50 bucks. Wow. Thank you so much. Wait a second. Wait a second. Let me explain something. There's a fucking PayPal. Danny doesn't need any money.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Wait, wait, wait. Danny's rolling in money. The money that they're going to pay you, which we're going to give out your PayPal. If they want to support Matt Cox, we're going to give out his PayPal shortly. These are just chat donations. And they can... And he'll give them to you. You can trust him.
Starting point is 00:03:14 No, he won't. Last time he goes, I don't care about the money. I'll give you all the money. Then later he goes, I'll split it with you. I was like... That's fair.
Starting point is 00:03:24 All right, we gotta stop talking over each other because it's gonna be a shit show if we keep doing that. Oh, yeah. That's upset you in the past. You've never talked over to me. Sorry, go ahead. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Anyways, when you start, when we start to do auction off the paintings and do the live commissioned artwork, we will give out Matt Cox what's it called PayPal, your PayPal email, and they can pay you directly there. But if you want to support the chat, the podcast, go ahead. They said they want to do an interview in Spanish.
Starting point is 00:03:53 On a Spanish channel. I don't know. I don't speak Spanish. So explain to me what you got going on. What was the inspiration behind this painting that you brought in today? You brought in four of the same paintings all in different colors. well two are the same. No, they're all different though.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I mean, like she's pink, she's skin tone, the other ones, magenta, purple. So, I mean, they're all different colors. The backgrounds are, two of them are same. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but they're all different paintings. Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah. So they're all different. But there's a guy named Robert Smith who bought,
Starting point is 00:04:32 do you remember that paint? I don't think you saw that painting. I sent you the, I think I sent you the time lapse, where I did, it was called Angry Baby. It was a kid that's crying, like screaming. So the guy that bought that, his name is Robert Smith. He bought that, and then he came back after he got it. He was like, wow, you know, this is great.
Starting point is 00:04:51 He said, I want a painting the same size as, same size, it was three foot by four foot. He said of Rob Zombie's wife blowing a bubble. There's some video, he sent me the video, and Rob Zombie's wife in the video is blowing a bubble. But you can't see her very well. Like you can see her, but you can only, it's a real, it's cropped real tight. And I thought, you know what, if I could superimpose her face and hands over another chick,
Starting point is 00:05:17 then I could get like a full body shot. It'd be a cooler painting. It'd be, you know, more aesthetically pleasing. Let's put it that way. So I started looking and as I was searching for women blowing, you know, bubblegum bubbles. And I started searching, I came across this image and I looked at it and I thought, man, I love that image. That's a great image. So then I took it.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And I did, I mass produce, because I'm getting tired of, I'm not tired of it. What the fuck? Is that a helicopter flying over us? I feel like there's a helicopter landing on top of the building right now. It's not me. They're coming for his defense. That's not me. It's the doctor.
Starting point is 00:05:53 It's, um, he's flying in. So, um, he, uh, he, uh, what's going on? I'm probably getting notifications. Okay. So, so, so anyway, yeah, I got this. And I got a lot of guys that are like, like they can't afford like $800. They're like, hey, you know, that other painting was $800 or this one's $600. Like, I can't afford that?
Starting point is 00:06:16 What can you do for $250? What can you do something for me for $250 or for $300? It's like, no, I can't. There's nothing I can do for $300. But then I thought, you know what? If I take the same design and I just mass produce it. Like I paint it over and over and over again and maybe, and it took three or four days. But if I can do that over and over and over again, then I can sell those.
Starting point is 00:06:38 for like 275 and I can mail it to you and it's affordable and they're all different paintings they're all individual paintings they're the same image why can't you just couldn't you just create like one really badass painting and then do prints of them and just sign them all right but but they're they're prints and and at some point in the future i may do prints but for right now it's like to me and i could be wrong it's like i would rather i would rather have like a piece of artwork yeah people like the live paint right i mean it's a it's a real piece of it's a real piece of art as opposed to a copy. And that's really what it boils down to is it's a copy.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Do you put your phone on silent? Do you mind? I can't. This is John Bozzi at. Tell him to call in. He can buy some art. Uh-oh. Well, wait. He's talking shit on me live. I got to turn, I know, I got to turn this off. Hey, do you want a sticker for the Church of Chill?
Starting point is 00:07:32 I don't know what that is. It's an amazing podcast done by my friend Sean Dunn and his beautiful girlfriend Cass. They do a morning live meditation podcast every morning on their channel. Cass is extremely extremely attractive. You think?
Starting point is 00:07:48 I mean, she is really attractive, but you have different taste. Because you got the hots for Katie. Katie. Where is Katie? What happened to Katie? We don't bring her around when you're here. I mean, Katie was also tall, though.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Wasn't she like 5'9 or so? Like Katie could take me in a fair fight. I can't date a chick that can take me in her She's too tall for you? Five-nine? She's a giant. Bro. I did their podcast. I know. How was it? It was good.
Starting point is 00:08:25 They were stoned the whole time. Like they kept small. And I kept saying like, like, can I, am I going to fail like a, what if I get like a urine test or something? Like, what if I got to, am I got to fail being around you guys? No, you're fine, bro. You know, but they were, they were stoned the whole time. They never stopped.
Starting point is 00:08:41 For two hours, they smoked straight for two hours. Nice. How did you meet them? Tyler. Oh, God. How, how, what were you expecting when you went there to go meet up with these people? Did you know anything about them or? I had tried to watch their video of Florida Man, or their documentary Florida Man.
Starting point is 00:09:01 You tried to watch it. I tried because when you punch in Florida Man, there's, there's like a hundred floor of, Florida Man. You got to type in documentary after. I mean, I did. I still got to. tons of them. I mean, I never, I don't, I think I may have watched it. I think I did watch part of it. But, you know, and, and so Tyler told me about them and I watched it and they, they had won like Tribeca. And I thought, okay, well, let me try and find this. And I watched it. And, you know, Tyler, by that point had already been like, hey.
Starting point is 00:09:28 He already booked you. Yeah, yeah, basically already booked me. He already had it booked. You'll be, check this out. He's already got the date booked. You'll be meeting them here at this time. I don't even know what's going on. And basically, you know, they do documents. documentaries. They own a production company. So I figured, okay, well, while I'm there, I can pitch one of my other stories to them, which I did pitch, and, uh, which they're interested in that story. It's like a cocaine cowboy story. And the guy is actually in halfway house right now. Really? One of the guys. Who is this guy? His name's Mike Hudson. He's, he and his brother, Doug were, they were, they were like cocaine cowboys, but back in the, um, in the, in the late 70s and
Starting point is 00:10:10 80s they were in Miami and they were like they know all those guys all the guys um all the big time cocaine cowboys and drug dealers everything they were taking boats out and loading up the boats uh with the midian cartel was loading up boats and they're bringing it in in Miami and their mother was running the whole operation bro it's it's an amazing story it's an amazing story it's crazy how many people that we've met and even had on here that were somehow affiliated with the medying cartel oh well it was a huge massive operation Yeah. I mean, these guys, Doug's brother, you wouldn't know this, but, so Jesse Jackson ran for president back in the 80s, right?
Starting point is 00:10:50 Right. So, I'm sorry, Mike's brother, Doug, has actually been in three different, he's been in three different Caribbean prisons. He's escaped from two of them. and the third one, Jesse Jackson, flew into Cuba, convinced Cash wrote a handover, 22 or 23 prisoner, American prisoners that he had been holding in his prisons, put him on his plane and flew him back to the United States. Mike Hudson's brother, Doug Hudson, was one of those guys, and this guy, Robert Young, Bobby Young was a second guy.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Now, all of them were run by his mother, ran an entire crew of guys. Mike Hudson was, he was in the Dirty Dozen. I mean, you know, listen, their whole story... What's the Dirty Dozen? It's a motorcycle game. Okay. Their whole story is just, it's just,
Starting point is 00:11:53 it's just this amazing epic journey that puts like the cocaine cowboys, like that story. It just, it's just, I don't want to say it puts it to shame because that was a great story, but that was more about Miami. These guys just have this epic journey that goes on for about 10 or 15 years. Listen, Mike's been in prison. He's been in Arizona State Prison, Florida State Prison,
Starting point is 00:12:16 and done two federal bids. I mean, this guy, this guy's amazing. I remember when I did the research on him. I remember he told me a story. I'll just do this real quick. He told me, like, sometimes you hear stories, right? Like, guys will tell your stories. And, you know, you're sitting there, I'm sitting there writing the story.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I'm taking notes. And halfway through the story, it's like, cut the shit. It's like, cut the shit, bro. This isn't real. You're bullshit. This is like a Clint Eastwood movie. You didn't, and he's telling me that he was backing his jaguar up into a parking space and a couple of rednecks beeped at him and he flipped him the bird or they flipped him a bird, whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:54 They pull over and get out. Three guys come up to him and say, if you saw Mike Hudson, he's a 5'10 version of, Clint Eastwood. Only he looks meaner, is meaner, and add about 20 pounds of just solid muscle. The guy is a beast. So these three guys come up to him on the street and they go, hey, motherfucker, why you go, you should have bird at me now, huh? What you got? What you got? And he goes, just get out of here. Just get out of here. Don't, you know, you don't want none of this. They're like, yeah, you got something. And so Mike, boom, he punches one in the face, guy drops. The other guy swings at him. He catches him in the shoulder. He punches that guy.
Starting point is 00:13:32 guy goes down. He chases the other guy into a Piccadilly. You know a Piccadilly? Like a restaurant? The guy pulls a knife out and starts swinging out. Mike takes the knife away and smashes him in the face. Just so happens that there's two cops eating.
Starting point is 00:13:48 They jump up, grab both of them, and while they're being dragged out of the restaurant, the kid mouse off to him again and Mike pops him, knocks out his two front teeth. Now this is a story Mike told me, and I thought, you're telling me. Yeah, right. At 40 years old, you beat the crap out of three 25-year-olds.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Stop it. That never happened. But I had ordered all the Freedom of Information Acts. One day I get one in from Miami. And not only do I have the police report where he beat these three guys' asses in the middle of downtown Miami, I have a transcript from when one of the guys sued Mike. And in the transcript, at the very end of it, he describes exactly what Mike said. And the very end of it, one of the lawyers says to him,
Starting point is 00:14:34 do you regret pulling over and confronting Mr. Hudson? And he says, well, of course I do. I'd still have my two front teeth. It's just like, this is amazing. Like, it's like, and of course if you met Mike, you'd talk to him for 10 minutes and you'd be like, yeah, I can see this. I can see him swinging on these guys and getting to a fight and the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:14:55 But he's, he's, he's a beast. He's a beast. When is he getting out? He's in the halfway house right now. He and his brother, I'm trying to put together with Cass and her whole group. Because the truth is, I don't even know what's her boyfriend's name? Sean. Like, I don't even know who Sean is.
Starting point is 00:15:11 If Sean was in the room. I mean, if Cass and Sean are in the room, I'm just talking to Cass. I don't even know who Sean is. I mean, it's like, so what are we doing? Creepy old man. I'm telling you. You saw her. So anyway, I was just thinking who's what?
Starting point is 00:15:28 watching this. They're probably watching it. All your girlfriends are watching it. Oh, that's, you know. Tinder dates. That was a great segue. We should talk about your latest. I don't have, they got kicked off all the apps.
Starting point is 00:15:42 They banned MacCops. You're making YouTube videos now on your YouTube channel. Right. Where you're basically telling your personal, deep, depressing stories of your failed relationships. I mean, it is very depressing. You talk about being depressed. I mean, yeah, I'm depressed, but, you know, by this, by nightfall, I'm over it.
Starting point is 00:16:07 It's in the morning when I'm ready to shoot myself. Thank God I can't have a gun. I thought it was the opposite. I thought you were telling me when you were in prison at night. No, I said, I wake up in the morning. It's like everything I can do to get out of bed. I talk, I start talking myself through the day. I still do it to this day.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I lay in bed for 10 minutes thinking, coffee. You've got coffee. It's just in the next room. You like coffee. You know, and eventually I pull myself out of bed. I go in. I start to call. Every day?
Starting point is 00:16:36 Every day you wake up depressed. And how long does it last? Sometimes it's worse than others. Because you're heartbroken? No, I'm heartbroken. No, this was happening when he was in prison. No. This is prison?
Starting point is 00:16:48 It still happens now. It's depression. You don't get over it. You're always depressed or you're medicated. So I don't want to take the medication. I'm afraid rot my brain or something. I'll be 70 years old and they'll find out and then suddenly I have Parkinson and so...
Starting point is 00:17:03 Are you still going to a psychiatrist? No, I only had to do that for... I only had to do that for a year. Do you miss going to the psychiatrist? No. You don't think it was good for you at all? No, she was trying to make me, you know, be a better person. And I'm not interested in that.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I can't, you can't fix this. I told her, I said, you can't fix... I'm not gonna... I can't be a scumbag for like 50 years. I get out of prison. I'm gonna talk to you for a... year and you're going to you're going to change my behavior plus i don't want to change it's working for me i like me yeah no but you do like talking about shit you like talking about yourself you like
Starting point is 00:17:39 talking about things you do and your feelings and sometimes that feels good you know the subtle mocking is what you know gets me no i'm being serious hey oh i don't know who that is austin's girlfriend's Austin's girlfriend. I thought that was Katie, but she's too short to be Katie. Katie would have had a hunch to get through the door. I can't believe you'd think she's fucking tall. She is. She's like 5'9.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Katie's not that tall. No? I mean, she's probably my height. How tall are you? I'm 5'10. It's ridiculous. For a woman? In a good pair of shoes.
Starting point is 00:18:16 No, she's not that tall. No, she's probably 59, 58, 5.8. Listen, if you're 5, 7, you're a giant to me. It's ridiculous. So, listen to this. this. This was, this really struck me. I was talking to Matt on the phone like a couple weeks ago. And he was talking to me how his previous girlfriend broke up with him. And you can tell, well, I want you to tell the whole story about that in a minute. All right. But he's talking about all
Starting point is 00:18:40 these dating apps, how it's so hard for him. You'll tell the story. But I asked him like, Matt, fuck a dating app. Why don't you just go to a, like, go to the bar and try to chat up some lady at the bar by a drink. Matt's response to me was, I'm 5-5. I can. I can. I can't. I'm five, six. I'm five foot six. I can't go to a bar and pick up chicks. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I'm like a little fucking midget. It's like, what are they going to do? So, so what are going to pick the tall guy every time? Can you unpack that statement for me? As soon as the alcohol starts flowing. He goes, nah, he's six one. You're five, ten. He's five, ten, you're six one.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And you guys are not. Six. Are you serious? It's fucking free show. Can you do me a favorite? Hold on. Can you do me a favorite and explain that statement to me? What?
Starting point is 00:19:25 Unpacked. that statement for me. I'm going to steal that. I'm using that. I mean, why say explain when you say, I'm back? Go ahead. Which one? When you said, you can't go to a bar and chat up ladies because you're five, six. The average height of a woman is like five, six. And they're all wearing heels. So let's face it. Already they're staring down at me, right? Unless I want to wear platform shoes. So, which I'd wear if it wasn't so obvious. Just going to the wrong bar. Wrong bar. What, the one Where they wear the dirty foot bar? I'll go to the dirty foot bar.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Where they wear flip flops. Show me where that bar is. On the beach. Yeah, he's right. First of all, you know, the other problem with going to a bar? You go to a bar.
Starting point is 00:20:09 What bar are you going to where everyone's wearing high heels? You're going to Tampa and shit. No, I don't go to bar. I've never, I haven't been to a bar in 20 years. You're probably thinking like the nightclub. I'm going to go to bar in 20 years.
Starting point is 00:20:19 I'm saying in general... Got a time out. Get you a five, six over there right now. People are hating on you, boys. Let me tell you. They're going to be like, Shut up, hat rack. Fucking quit asking questions and not let
Starting point is 00:20:30 Cock respond. All right, we can't talk over cogs. Okay, so listen. What the fuck did I drive over here? It's an hour to get here. Anyway, so what I am saying is this, is that if you hang out at a bar and you talk to one or two women
Starting point is 00:20:48 the entire time you're there, what's the likelihood that you end up hooking up? This has got to go on for months and months before you end up finding a chick that you like. First of all, not just knocking them off. I'm not talking about knocking them off, okay? That's not that difficult. What I'm talking about is a chick that you like,
Starting point is 00:21:05 that you want to hang out with, that you want to spend the rest of your life with, because I'm 51 years old. I'm 51 years old. You can't even understand the problems that I have. Women have to get over multiple things. First of all, you went to prison for, scratch that. First of all, multiple felonies on the run for three years.
Starting point is 00:21:26 O's $6 million, which I'm good for. Went to prison for 12 and a half years. Got out at 49, now 51. I've been out of prison for 18 months. Starting your life over. Lived in someone's spare room, was driving a car that didn't have ABS or a radio that worked or AC. Luckily, I just got a new car.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Still not a great car. But the point is, at least it's not a death trap. So, I mean, I just got an apartment, just got a new vehicle. I'm, everything I have is brand new, and I don't have that much. I mean, I'm struggling. So when you go in, if I wanted to go in and just completely BS somebody, sure, but I go in and I'm just very honest about this is the situation. You know. Yeah, but don't you think that's interesting?
Starting point is 00:22:16 Don't you think that's an interesting thing to have a conversation with somebody about your story? Yeah, but at my age, listen, if a chick's over 35 years old, she's starting to think, starting to realize, look, it's a downhill slide at this point. I got to find a guy that's stable, that is not a complete maniac, right? And everything about me says, that's not what all, I don't think that's what all 35 plus year old women are looking for at bars. No, the ones that you want to end up with, the ones that are bars that are picking up some guy, just want to, want to go home and get the shit banged out of them. I mean, you know, but that's not the chick that you're probably going to end up with, not that you couldn't
Starting point is 00:22:54 end up with that. Not that I'm opposed to that. I'm just saying, just putting that out there. But I'm saying in general, I'm trying, I need to find a chick that I'm going to be with. Because I don't have time to go, have a three-year relationship, have it not work out, struggle for six months to find another chick, date her for four years. And by that time, I'm 60 years old. Fuck, I don't want to be 60 years old trying to. So what's the problem with all the dating apps that you're using? All the dating apps, I was on this, on several dating apps, fucker. So I was on several dating apps.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I met this chick. We went to go meet. She asked me for my phone number. She reversed directory me. I don't know. Is that thing? Yeah. Reverse directory?
Starting point is 00:23:41 Whatever. Stought out, found out my name and didn't show up. Just rude. Like you couldn't send a text, say, listen, this is what's going on. Didn't show up instead. She turned around. She contacted the FBI. Match.com.
Starting point is 00:23:58 She contacted two of the apps we were both on. Within a day, I'm knocked off both of them for violating the policy, which is you're not allowed to be a felon. And then the third one, it took another couple of days before guess what? Boom, knocked off that one. Now, I went back on Bumble, changed, altered everything slightly, right? like it was still Matt Cox and that sort of thing but I altered some of my information so that it let me back on
Starting point is 00:24:28 was on for about three weeks and then boom shut me off so you know was it another chick because you'll see a lot of these chicks on different websites did one of these chicks know me did she on the website did she come across me I don't know so I was talking to
Starting point is 00:24:46 I mean it's funny that the the advice unsolicited advice that I get constantly is like I either get the the you should be very honest up front and just weed through them and this and that and it's like okay well I mean that that trust me I tried that it doesn't work or you should not say anything the psychiatrist the the the federal government psychiatrist told me date these women for at least three or four dates let them get to know you and then tell them and I went so let's face it by this first second, by at least the second date, you're having sex. So you want me to sleep with this
Starting point is 00:25:26 chick two or three times and then tell her I just got out of prison. I don't see a problem with that. I do. I think that that's extremely intrusive. I think it's, it's, first of all, it's misleading. So I'm someone who has a problem with people believing me and with credibility. So I need to start the relationship off with a lie. That's, that's not right. So look, let me put it this way. This is what I told my friend Stacy the other day, because she was trying to give me advice, which she always does, which is typically horrible advice. But she's trying to give me advice, and she's like, well, just say this. You can subtly answer this way. You can mislead them this way.
Starting point is 00:26:03 You can manipulate the conversation. You're very good at this. Okay, great. So here's the thing. There's no little bit of fraud. All right. There's no gray area. You've either committed fraud or you haven't.
Starting point is 00:26:13 So what I told Stacy is if I go back on a dating app, I'm going to create a complete. new Instagram, Facebook, new name. Gary Sullivan. I'm a Gary Sullivan. The whole thing.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I'll set up an entire thing. I'll just fake the entire thing. And I'll date the chick for fucking three months until she's deep, deep in. And then I'll say, boom, got to mention something to you. I'm not. Then I'll club.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Yeah. Then you club her over the head. Why would I possibly go out with her for a week? Because you're going to lose, you're going to lose a ton of them that way. And then you still have to, find somebody that you like. How many women have you dated that you like that you're in a committed relationship right now that you feel this is the person? And I'm assuming that you date a lot.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Date, no, not too often. No. Okay. So you're smashing chicks. Shane hasn't been on a date or hooked up with a girl in probably half a decade. That's not true. You were with that chick the lot the other time we were here. Yeah, I'm sure you that didn't turn out too good. It didn't, but that's what I'm saying is that how many women have you gone through and you haven't found Mr. Wright and you don't have any of the problems I have? Matt, have you ever tried going to the strip club? You don't meet. Actually, I did date a stripper for three years. I actually was engaged to that to her, too.
Starting point is 00:27:25 She should just get a really nice girl. She should just get a mail order. A mail order bride. Yeah. Yeah. Listen. Cut out the middle. Just go for it.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Look, Matt's got a newfound moral compass. And if I had this. Look, no, honestly, if I was a multi-millionaire, I would go with some Eastern European chick that's a mail-order bride. Because, look, they're vicious. but at least you have an arrangement. You say, look, I'm going to marry you. We're going to stay married for three years. Then I'm swapping you out for another one.
Starting point is 00:27:53 I'll send you off with some real estate and a 401k or an IRA, a Roth IRA. I'll set you up over the next three to four years. And then we go over back there, we pick up another chick. We'll swap you out and you're good. She's an indentured servant for three to four years, whatever it takes. I'm saying, I wouldn't mind that because it's an arrangement. I get that. That's okay. I'd be okay with that, but I'm not a multi-millionaire.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And bring in some, first I take thousands, tens of thousands of dollars to go over there. You find the girl. You got to bring her over here. She has to go back for 10 days or so. She has to come back over. She's got to be 5-2. It's a whole thing. Look, I'll take 5-6 and under. So how long were you dating your previous girlfriend? I don't want to say her name.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I don't want to air her out or anything like that. You go on my channel. You put her all over your channel? She's all over my channel. She texted me today when I released the video today. because I made some crack about how it's not my fault, that there's an issue between the two of us. So how long were you guys dating?
Starting point is 00:28:52 I don't know, like about 14, 15 months. And then why did you guys end up breaking up? I thought, look, listen, any relationship, there's like ebbs and flows, right? Like sometimes it's amazing and then sometimes, you know, it's good, but it's not as good as it was at one time. Like, there's obvious, right? Like, not bad, but sometimes you're more over the top in love than others. So we would have a couple of great weeks
Starting point is 00:29:15 And then we'd have a week where we didn't talk Or even see each other for a week What's going on? Just reading. Okay. So there would be times when we were texting, you know, whatever, 5, 10 times a day as opposed to she's texting me 30 times a day And calling me and saying, I can't wait to see you
Starting point is 00:29:35 And, you know, I love you so much. And, you know, that. So those things are going back and forth. But it's a good relationship, in my opinion. Listen, one day, what, First of all, this kills me. She wants to move in. Like, we're dating.
Starting point is 00:29:48 There was an issue with this chick she was dating, right? So she was dating this chick when we met. And then she broke up with her to be with me. And then the girl came back around and she's like, look, I'm going to be with her and I'm sorry. And I'm like, oh, you're messing up, but whatever. She was a bisexual. Right. And then she comes back again.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Like a week later, she's like, I messed up. I screwed up. Forget her. I'm sorry. I'm in love with you. And then that went on for a few months. Eventually, she comes back. And I'm like, look, we're done.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I mean, you know, this, I'm tired of this. She's like, no, you don't understand. I'm all in. I want to move in together. I'm in love with you. It's, I messed up. I screwed up. Great.
Starting point is 00:30:21 So a few months later, we tell our POs that we're seeing each other. Okay, because we're both on probation. We have to get permission. So we get our permission. Then I say, I'm going to go rent on, I'm going to run an apartment. She's, then she starts backpedaling. Well, I'm about to go to start school full time and I don't know. And what about my half of the rent and this and that.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And given, let's, let's, let's, let's, give it another month, and okay, another month goes by, and then another month goes by. And then I said, look, I got to move out of, I'm living in someone's spare room, I got to get out of here. You know? So I'm going to rent an apartment. You're moving in with me.
Starting point is 00:30:55 She's like, I can't afford my half of the rent. I just started school. I'm like, I'll pay your half of the rent. And she's like, well, the problem is my dad. I live with my dad. I'm so close and my car's a piece of junk, and your car is a piece of junk. We'll get you a new car.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I'll help you with a car payment. Then it comes back. It's like, no, I can't afford that. I'll pay the car payment. Now what? I just need more time. I need more time. Just back her into a corner.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Oh, yeah, of course. What am I going to do? Look, look, put up a shut up. If I'm in, I'm 100%. I'm all in. I mean, I've said this before. If I'm going in the bank, I'm not slipping the fucking teller
Starting point is 00:31:31 some pussy-ass fucking note and walking out with $3,000. I'm going into the vault with an AK-47. I'm zip-tying everybody, and I'm leaving me with the contents. You're either in or you're out. So she's not all. all in. That's, is that wrong? No, I love it. So I'm saying, you're not all in, then something's
Starting point is 00:31:50 wrong. I get an apartment. She's coming over, back and forth, back and forth. And then, anyway, one day she comes over and she basically comes over and we end up going, we end up going to dinner. First, I remember she said she wanted to talk. Where'd you go to dinner? Red lobster, Applebee's. Red lobsters. Now, where did we go? I don't know, like some Buffalo Winghouse or Buffalo Wild Wings? B-Dubs. Wild Wings? B-dubs.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Hell yeah. That place has more TV screens than anywhere. He does have a lot. There's a lot of sports on. I feel like I'm just getting sunburnt. My skin's just getting fried from all the TV, all the fucking screens everywhere. Anyways, you guys go to B-dubs, then what happens? I don't like that he calls it B-Dubs.
Starting point is 00:32:34 That's what people call it. Do they? It's by my house, bro. Anyway, we go there. And Austin, what do you call it? B-dubs. B-dubs, dude. Well, it's not my kind of place.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Okay, it's a sports bar. I'd rather not go there. Whatever, not my call. So we go in, we sit down, and I said, so what do you want to talk about? I'm happy. I'm having a good time.
Starting point is 00:32:59 My girlfriend's here. We just had sex. Everything's good. That's about to change. Yeah, we just, everything's good. Like, I knocked one out. We're going to go eat, going back.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Life's good. Sure enough, we sit down. And I said, you want to talk? And she goes, and I said, what did you want to talk about? And she goes, maybe we shouldn't talk here. And I went, what? I said, what are I going to throw a fit? I said, what are you breaking up with me?
Starting point is 00:33:22 And she goes, yeah. And I went, what? We just ordered. And I was like, oh, no. Oh, look, I went, what? And she goes, I just, it's just not working. And I just don't feel like we're going to, this is going to last. And I went, ooh, I said, hold on.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Hey, hey, to the secretary, to the, not secretary. to the waitress like, hey. I said, can you back box all that stuff up and get me the tab as soon as humanly possible? And she goes, is everything okay? I said, yeah, we're just wrapping this up real quick. This is over. So I need that stuff so we can get going as quickly as possible. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And she went and she got the stuff and came back and Jess is just sitting there staring at me. She's like, do you want, what do you want to talk about? I said, there's another one that to talk about. You don't want to be with me. I've been through this before. We've been through this. We had a good year since the last one, but this is it. So sure enough, we get our stuff, we go back, we walk into the house, she's sitting there,
Starting point is 00:34:16 she's like, do you want to talk about this? What's there to talk about? Do you have any of your stuff that you need to get? It's over. If it's over, it's over. And, you know, I was furious. So then she left. And then a couple days later, I start getting the texts from her.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Are you okay? I know you're upset. My dad said that I probably shouldn't call you. And I said, yeah, you're right. You shouldn't call me. There's no reason to text. We're done. a couple more days.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Then, you know, she starts posting stuff on Facebook and she starts and he goes back. And then I'm like, you know, what are you doing? And then we start talking again. And then she comes over a few times here and there and we're talking. And then we stop talking. And then we have another day. This and this goes on for another. It's been going on for a month or so.
Starting point is 00:34:59 It's, you know, it's just not. It's like she doesn't know why she doesn't want to be with me, but she does want to be around me and see me and text me and, and be around, you know, and, you know, listen, we basically have the same relationship we had before. Only the difference is, I'm currently going to try and define another chick. She doesn't like the commitment. Right. But here's the thing. This is a chick that works. She works and goes to school all day, all like. It's like, there's not somebody else. You know, it doesn't make sense. Her whole thing is,
Starting point is 00:35:33 I don't see us being together for the rest of our lives. Okay. we're too different. That's what she said. That's what she says. We're too different. So she's like, I don't see us having a successful relationship because we're too different. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I understand. So what you're saying is that like a housewife and a guy that sells insurance, they don't have anything in common so they can't be together. You're saying that a secretary and a guy who's a garbage man that live together and have a 40-year relationship and raise three kids, they can't be together because they don't have anything. You're telling me that only people that both are mechanics can survive a relationship. So you and your wife must have the identical backgrounds and careers, right?
Starting point is 00:36:23 No, you don't. That's right, right. That's right. That's not how it works. So the fact is it doesn't make sense. So it's like nothing she's saying makes sense. You know, she's saying, I'm in love with you. I'm attracted to you.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I love talking to you and hanging out with you and, you know, it's like, okay, So what's happening? She's comfortable with you and all that stuff is true. But she doesn't want anything long. She doesn't want to get married and have kids with you. Maybe she wants to get married and have kids, but she wants. Maybe she wants to have kids. She wants somebody else.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Some younger guy, a taller guy. And I thank you. What a dickhead. I don't think, hey, don't think I haven't had that conversation. I was like, give me a reason. Tell me you want a guy that's six foot tall. Tell me you want a guy that's a mechanic, which is what she's going to school to be like a mechanic.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Tell me that you want a guy. Tell me that I have bad breath. Tell me that I'm too old for you. That's a toll. That's a real issue for me. She's 34 and I'm 51. I'm like, tell me that. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And she's like, what are you talking about? You don't even look 51. She's like, you look, we look like we're the same age practically. She's like, I don't look 34 and you don't look 51. She goes, that's not it. She's like, you're amazing. You're a great person. You're great.
Starting point is 00:37:37 That hairline's not a day. older than 25. It shouldn't be. It costs 14 grand. Best Bank of American money I spent. Cha-ching. So I need to finish one. Oh, this one's full. Okay. Yeah, so it doesn't make sense, but whatever. It's never going to make sense. It's not that makes sense. It's not of my business. Whatever. So, yeah, it's an issue. But the problem is, like I posted that video today and this other chick that I'm talking to saw the video, of course, which I knew she was going to. And then She called me and she's like, it sounds like you're not really over this chick. And I'm like, well, no, of course I'm not over.
Starting point is 00:38:14 I mean, we dated over a year. I'd be a complete nut job if I was just over or just like that. It's dragging out. So how did you meet this new chick? She watched me on concrete. Really? I've actually had a couple of women. Boziat came in here two weeks or a week ago.
Starting point is 00:38:29 He met his girl off the show. Yeah. Boziac come in here a week ago with some new girl. We matchmaking them over here. She DMed him from the Concrete podcast. She saw his podcast on here with you and him. Right. Now they're together.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Right. I mean, that's, that's, you know. But I mean, the other, it's just. And I'm going to the wedding. Yeah. This is a chick that I'm just talking. Like, I've talked to a couple of chicks, but I haven't seen them. I haven't gone out with them.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I haven't done anything. I mean, we're just communicating. You know, like they're in other states. Right. This other chicks in another state. But didn't you meet a girl for a blind date of one of those apps? Wasn't a blind date. It was during my three weeks that Bumble let me slip back in there.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And then just in that. So how did that play out? Let's see, I went on a couple of, they're not blind dates. They're like, they're at their date. Whatever. They're not a blind day, but you've never seen the person in real life before, right? No, not in real life. But they were, that didn't get catfish.
Starting point is 00:39:22 It was her. So I went on a couple dates. But the problem is I went on the dates. And like, I went on the dates and I'd broken up with like Jess, like, or Jess broke up with me like two weeks earlier or a week and a half earlier. So I go on some date with some girl and she's talking and talking and I'm not even paying attention and and at the end of the date I'm like okay well hey it was nice me to you I'd give him a hug and I just head back to my car and they're standing there like what's going on and I'm
Starting point is 00:39:46 just like it's I'm not feeling it like I might as well have gone to dinner with my sister tell me about the tell me the story about the girl you met who was a Scientologist okay now that was one of the best dates I've that was the out of the two or three date the three dates the three dates that chick. Amazing. Really? Was she the hottest? Yeah, but I don't think that had anything to do with it.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Really? Yeah. So she was hot. I mean, like, extremely. Like, usually you get there and you're like, oh, man, you gave you glamor shot pictures. You really picked the best pictures of you. This chick walked in, walked up and over to me, and I was just like, my God. Run the numbers.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Run the numbers for me. Like, run the numbers. What was her, what was her cup size? What was her height? Not doing that. She was an attractive woman. What am I, 12? Did she have a fat ass?
Starting point is 00:40:35 Fat ass. I'm not going to say this. Paint us a picture, man. I mean a fat ass. Who says fat? You're a white guy. Paint me a picture. Yeah, I like a fat ass.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Oh, my God. This is horrible. You're a horrible individual. Matt, this is what we do. This is what we like. Listen, she was extremely attractive. She, I don't know what's happening here. Put your phone down.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Put your phone down. Oh, it's Mike Hudson. That's great. Put your phone down. The doctor threw $100. The doctor. Yeah, but not to me. He threw it to Danny.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Shout out to the doctor. Unbelievable. The doctor. Doctor threw a Benjamin. That guy. So, um. So paint a picture for us. What she?
Starting point is 00:41:21 Yeah, blonde. Yeah, she had brown hair. How tall? Brownish blonde? Oh, five foot four. Maybe five. No, maybe five three. Actually.
Starting point is 00:41:30 How much she weighs? Oh, 110, 110 pounds. Okay. Maybe max 115. What are the breasts? Double D. Big fake, big fake double Ds or little, little, little amp, little amp. Listen, she had plenty. She was very attractive. She was.
Starting point is 00:41:49 What does that mean? Plenty. She was average. It's average. I'm good with average. I don't want to date a freak show. Okay, not giant melons. Triple Ds with a big old ass. I'm with you on that. No, not interested. I like little tiny natural ones.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Right. That's all I need. I'm good. Yeah. I don't need something ridiculous. So, okay. So, yeah, so anyway. How old was she?
Starting point is 00:42:12 I want to say she's in her. Oh, I think she was like 41, 42 years old. Actually, I think she was so, let's say 40. Okay. She had her shit together. Scientologists, they have their shit together. Of course. Yeah, she's definitely.
Starting point is 00:42:25 She was sharp as a tack. And we sat down, we started talking. And this was what was so funny was I had mentioned, during our our texts she had said you seem great you seem this
Starting point is 00:42:37 I said yeah well it's not all it cuts out it sounds I said trust me there's there's an issue and she's like well what's the issue I said I'll mention it to you when we meet in person
Starting point is 00:42:45 so we talked for about two hours like we had dinner and about an hour and a half into it let's say hour and a half into it maybe two hours she says you seem so funny
Starting point is 00:42:56 and great like we were having a great time and she goes she said, what's the issue? And I went, what's the catch here, Cox? I said, all right, here's the catch. And I explained, like, you know, here's what's going on. Boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I go through the whole on the run in cars. I knocked it. I didn't in 30 minutes. I'm going to be the 30 minute version because the two-hour version will freak you out. I said, I'm going to go with 30 minutes here. And she goes, okay. She was, I'm ready. I said, okay.
Starting point is 00:43:24 So I tell her the 30-minute version, boom. Give her the 30-minute version. and at the end of it she goes look I'm not going to lie she said that that that gives me pause she said but you know I mentioned to you that I'm a scientist so and people some people have issues with that she said so she said I told you that up front you know because I wanted you to know that she said so but this is this is that's a big one I said it is a big one and she goes let me think about it let me think about it she's about it I think I'm going to be okay with it she's but let me think about it. She's, I have to kind of, I have to kind of pass it by.
Starting point is 00:43:59 She had to consult with Zinu. She had basically had to talk to, you know, she didn't say, in my opinion, she made it sound like she had to pass it by someone, right? Yeah, she had to talk to Zinu, the Galactic Overlord. I don't know who that is. So. El Ron Hubbard. I understand. I understand. The mocking. But the point is, is that she, we talked, listen, 30, we talked for, we talked for,
Starting point is 00:44:24 we talked for, actually, for another two hours and change. So about 30 minutes later we're talking And I remember at one point she stopped And she just leaned in And she goes, do you feel the chemistry between us? And I went, I go, yeah, it's like, that's nuts, right? And she goes, it is, it's crazy She's like, I never feel this way
Starting point is 00:44:41 She said, I feel this, this is great chemistry And I go, right? So then this goes on We end up going into the bar, we sit in the bar, We talk for another hour in the bar We're leaning in and talking And finally she says, listen, she says, I have to go Are you guys drinking?
Starting point is 00:44:58 At the bar? Matt doesn't drink. I know you don't drink, but did she drink? I think she had like a, why, because she found me interesting? No, because she's a Scientologist. I'm interested to see if Scientologists drink. I don't know if she drank or not. She might have had a glass of wine.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I don't recall her drinking, to be honest, but whatever. I'm into the details, Matt, it's okay. Okay, so, well, we went to the bar, we sat down. I had a Diet Coke. I don't know what she had. So we were talking, but I mean, literally like another hour or so into that conversation, she ends up saying, she goes, look, it's late. I'm going to have to go.
Starting point is 00:45:25 she is and honestly she said the chemistry between us is so overwhelming she says i i feel like like we're gonna she says i'm gonna kiss you here she's if i don't leave soon and i was just like i was like well what you have to understand too where we've got the mass she goes to the church she can't go to the church if she's had like contact with me right so they they have all these rules about that they're trying to keep from getting like nobody in that in the church has gotten COVID. Because they're extremely stringent on the rules. And so she, so anyway, I said, okay, I said, yeah, okay, that's cool. And we leave. And she gets in her car and she leaves and she says, look, she's, I'm going to call
Starting point is 00:46:06 you tomorrow. She said, you know, like, when do you want to see each other again? She said, like, probably this weekend. I mean, she said, I got to ask some people at the church how, like, about talking. Was it, you know what I'm saying? Like talking, like, like how, like, actually being with you, like connecting with you. Like, I need to find out exactly what the rules are, like how closely I can get, how close I can get to you, the whole thing. She said, I need to find out exactly what those rules are. She said, but yeah, probably like this weekend.
Starting point is 00:46:34 She was, I definitely want to see you again. I said, okay, cool. So that's it. The next day, she sends me a text. She says, I had an amazing time. You're an amazing guy. The chemistry was overwhelming. She said, I find you extremely attractive, interesting.
Starting point is 00:46:51 She said, you're just an amazing individual. all the way around. She goes, and I know that this isn't going to make sense at all. She was, but I'm afraid we're going to have to keep this in the front zone. She said, it's just,
Starting point is 00:46:59 I know it doesn't, I can't explain why. It's, I just have to, it just can't go any further than where it is right now, and I'm so sorry. And she says, I understand if you'd be upset about that,
Starting point is 00:47:09 but I would really like to keep you as a friend. And I went, slow game. So I said, I said, let me explain something. My, my personal,
Starting point is 00:47:23 you know, philosophy on having hot female friends is that there's just nothing more useless in the world than having a hot chick as a friend because while they think you're building a friendship, I'm thinking, how am I going to fuck this chick? So I said, it's absolutely useless for you to be a friend. I said, but if you're serious about it, I'll make an attempt to be friends. However, if it's the kind of friend that sends me three texts a week to say, hey, what's up? and I say, oh, everything's good.
Starting point is 00:47:53 And that's it. I said, I got enough of those useless friends already. I said, now, if you want to actually be a friend. Yeah, of course. Why? What do I care? This chick's done. So I said, you know, if you want to meet, have dinner,
Starting point is 00:48:06 if you want to bounce business ideas, because she had some great business ideas. Like when I talked to her about my artwork. Is she rich? I mean, I didn't get into her. What kind of car did she drive? The fuck is going on, bro. Do you really sit there at the first date and say,
Starting point is 00:48:18 so what's your financial stuff? How much do you have in the bank? What's in your 401k? I don't ask any of that shit. Yeah, that's how it works now, Matt. No, well. Scientologists aren't rich. Yeah, they are, bro.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Are you kidding me? The higher-ups. Bro, a lot of Scientologists are rich as fuck. Not the ones that walk up and down the street in the fucking, in the white clothes. No, not those. Those are just the slaves. There's literally slaves in Scientology. You don't know that?
Starting point is 00:48:42 Tell her you'll take the brain zapping test and shit if that's what they want. Yeah, get audited. Listen, they don't want me as a member? Did she say she's ever seen? I wouldn't be a member of any church that would have me as a member. Did she say that she's ever seen any of your videos online? No, no, she hadn't seen anything. She didn't know anything about me.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Remember, she only knew my name was Matt. That's all she knew until that night. So, Scientologists aren't allowed to use the internet from what I hear. That's not true. Bro, that's not true. I talk to this chick all the time. Like, I texted her. Does she have YouTube?
Starting point is 00:49:15 Yeah, she's got you. She's watched my stuff now. Oh. Oh, she's watched my stuff. She used, listen, she's got like a real corporate job. She doesn't work for Scientology. She has a corporate job. I mean, she...
Starting point is 00:49:27 It must have been a while ago, but I interviewed multiple people on here. One of the guys, Ron Miscavage, I interviewed. He's the dad of David Miscavage, who is the fucking overlord of Scientology. Right. You're probably the reason she won't fucking see me. They probably found out I'm connected to you.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Probably. And they're like, oh, no, he's connected to... For sure. To Dany Jones. You're matchmaking over here. Not a match. We destroyed my fucking match. I've interviewed...
Starting point is 00:49:49 We've interviewed it up. You know, we laid it up to you. Anyways, all these guys, people tell me that the Scientologist, maybe it's just the ones who live at the, like, the actual church, the people who live there, like their residents, they're not allowed to use the internet. Like, they have internet, but it's very limited. Like, they can't use YouTube or anything like that,
Starting point is 00:50:08 and their search options are limited. All right. So Scientology is no more ridiculous than Christianity. It is a little bit different. I didn't say different. I didn't say it wasn't different. Ridiculous? I said it's no more ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Right. than a man dying on the cross for our sins, raising up three days later. We eat his, we eat his, his flesh to cleanse our, get out of here. That's craziness. Yeah, but the Bible, the Bible actually has, like, stories. The Bible, which was written by the apostles four, five hundred years after they had all died. Right, an ancient relic full of basically fiction. There's about eight or nine different gospels.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And then at the council of, I think it was the council of Troy, the Catholic Church said, oh, that's a bad one. Let's go with the best of four out of the eight. Let's go out of the eight to 12. Let's go with the best of, let's go with these four. Like they picked them. There are other gospels that paint Jesus as a guy that strikes children blind for bumping into him in the street. That's just a vicious. No, there's a lot of fucked up shit in the Bible.
Starting point is 00:51:15 No, there's nothing about the Bible. I'm talking about the other gospels that didn't make the cut. They don't paint Jesus as this sweet guy. They don't paint them as the hippie stoner, let's all love and hug each other, hug it out. I mean, they paint them vastly different. So I'm saying Scientology, does it sound kind of kooky? Yeah, but so does any, if you really look at any other religion,
Starting point is 00:51:37 they're all nuts. None of them all make sense. No, but Scientology is, I don't even think you can categorize it in the same realm as those religions. because first of all, it was created as a business by a guy who was the most prolific writer of science fiction in the history of the world. It sounds to me like you're almost talking about the Catholic Church. How so? How so? The Catholic Church, like, don't they own banks?
Starting point is 00:52:06 Don't they, isn't it a massively rich corporation, the Catholic Church? It's not a business? It's not built like a Ponzi scheme like Scientology is, where you have to pay for certain. levels to ascend to a certain height. Because you don't like their business structure? It's literally built like a Ponzi scheme. It's a business that became tax-free. Right, which is, by the way, gone through the courts and been deemed by your federal
Starting point is 00:52:32 government that it is a church. Right. After they had, they basically had thousands of their members sue the IRS so they could achieve that tax-free status. Okay. And how is that any different? So Scientology, you know, one of the things I had heard about it was like, there's like there's sex slaves and there's this and there.
Starting point is 00:52:54 You mean like having an entire portion of the Catholic Church priests give up all of their money to the Catholic Church and live with nothing, have no possessions. That's kind of like slaves, isn't it? It's crazy. It's crazy what belief will do. Wait a minute. What about this? What about this? What about every time that a child is sexually molested, we just move the priest.
Starting point is 00:53:17 from one place so he can sexually molest more children. And when there's more accusations, we move him again and again and again. That's no different than the kind of stuff that's going on in the in Scientology. I'm saying it's all whacked to say that no, no, no, they're horrible and these other things are good. Come on, bro. Every preacher out there's Robin their church or parish blind. I mean, it's constantly happening. So, you know, to point one out because El-Ron,
Starting point is 00:53:47 Hubbard came up with it. I mean, yeah, okay. It's not just because El Ron Hubbard came up with it. There's lots of crazy shit in Scientology that doesn't happen just like in every other religion. Like for example, for example, if you leave Scientology or if you're in Scientology and you have someone in there that commits one of the science that breaks one of the rules or leaves, you have to disconnect from them where you cannot have any communication with them or anybody else. Like you have to literally disconnect completely. I've had people on here who talked about it, who have left. Right, I understand. And I mentioned this chick who was in the church. So here's what she had said. When I said to her, I said, well, I don't understand. I said, you're on a date with me. I'm like, you're not thinking of converting me.
Starting point is 00:54:32 She goes, I was married to a guy who was Muslim. She was, I was married to a Middle Eastern man who was Muslim. She was for eight years. She goes, he didn't go to the years. And I've always been in Scientology. This chick's father was in Scientology. She said, I never. I never tried to convert him.
Starting point is 00:54:48 I never tried to get him in the church. She goes, and I said, yeah, but I said, I have a friend named Stacy. And Stacy told me that at some point they will tell you, as you ascend, they will eventually tell you you have to disassociate with anybody who's not Scientologist. She goes, yeah, that's not true either. It's not anybody who's not Scientologist. There's only people who speak negatively about Scientology. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:55:09 That's what she said. She said, if I'm with someone and they start talking negatively about Scientologists and try and get me to get out of Scientology, she goes, I have to have a conversation with him where I say, look, you have to stop this behavior, or I just can't talk to you anymore. Right. You have a disconnect. Right. And to me, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Like, if you're going to mock my religious belief, then I just can't be around you anymore. I mean, you truly are a believer in anything. If I was a true believer in Catholicism, and every time I hung out with Danny, he was like, oh, what's going on with Jesus? Oh, hey, do your fingers hurt, do your hands hurt? Can you wear the holes in your hands? what's about stigmata and you started mocking me then eventually i would say dan you got to stop doing this and if you say well and i'm not going to i'd say okay well cut kick rocks we're done okay but what if you did what if you did an interview with somebody or wrote a wrote something online
Starting point is 00:56:01 questioning catholicism or questioning anything about it and then she has to disconnect from you completely i mean i i don't know i don't know the complete i don't know exactly It's not. I mean, you're trying to make it sound like mocking or like always like ridiculing or whatever. I mean, it's even if you question it publicly, they have to completely, you have to completely disconnect. And if like I've had a guy on here who his entire family is still in Scientology, he left and that they, he hasn't had contact with any of them since. Like they do things where they send people out to his house with cameras to literally stalk him and follow him everywhere he goes. And that happens to numerous people. I mean, it may happen.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I don't have enough information to make an informed decision. It's crazy how much more shit they do. Like, hiring private investigators to follow people around, armed, filming them, confronting them at their homes. I mean, it's fucking wacky, bro. Bad things happen. Bad things do happen, especially in Scientology. Everywhere.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Mm-hmm. I mean, I don't know. We're not going to solve this. We don't have to solve it. I need another bud light. You need another bud? Help me out. They're ready for the paintings.
Starting point is 00:57:19 I mean, I mean, let's, I want $275. You have my, my PayPal. Send $275 and your address, or you can give my email address. I have more, and I'll make more. But I've got like 10 of these things. Yeah, they want to see it up close. All right, hold on. Ow.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Oh. Just grab one of them. Put that up. What's the back? What the fuck? Oh, geez. What did you do? No.
Starting point is 00:58:04 What did I do? You tripped over all the fucking electric. What do you expect? What an electric shop is there? What can't you want a real speed of that? No, we're not big time. No one can hear you, Matt. Get in front of your mic.
Starting point is 00:58:19 I'm telling Danny to go ahead and spring an extra $10 and get the longer cord. so that I don't Show us what you got, Matt Matt. All right. I don't know what I don't know if you can see them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:32 So I have. Can you see these? Uh, hold on. Yeah, they look great. They're cool. Go back.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Go back farther. Right there. Yeah. Put it right where your head would normally be. Oh. And you can go on my, you can go to my Instagram. Uh, actually I have pictures of them on my Instagram.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Do you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. beautiful matt beautiful set them back up what are you left
Starting point is 00:59:03 comments people don't know how you can't find a woman they said women love true crime look first of all it's not that I can't find a woman it's just says listen I'm I'm 51 years old and look if I when they're in there the fuck you're looking at the negatives what are the negatives I mean look if I wanted to get some fatty and I hate to say that but if I wanted to
Starting point is 00:59:30 to get some road hard fat chick that looked like a fucking trucker then yeah but I'm sorry I have a little bit of standards you got a documentary and a fine arts degree your fucking top tier you got millions of views on YouTube yeah
Starting point is 00:59:45 what more could you ask for I mean you know you got a good hair line I if anybody wants one of these beautiful paintings from Matthew B. Cox Yeah, give my PayPal. Let us know.
Starting point is 01:00:02 I gave them the PayPal. Or actually, if anybody has any relationship advice or if any of you What are you doing? Find ladies out there on the internet want to hook up with Matt Cox, maybe set up a date. Leave your number in the chat and we will call you live. Nice. We'll call you live on the air. Listen.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Please. So does anybody want to talk to Matt? Put your phone number in there. Put the number in there. We're calling. Hold on. We got another donation. What's what?
Starting point is 01:00:34 Give them my PayPal and my cash app for donations. Unbelievable. All right. Put in a put in a, put. The doctor just donated a 99.99 for towards a real studio for Matt Cox. Woo-hoo. Nice. Unfortunately, that money went to him.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Went to Danny. Well, you asked them to donate it to me for my new cord. That's longer so you don't trip on it. Oh, God. You know what I'm going to do? Can they pay you in crypto? Mm-hmm. Bitcoin?
Starting point is 01:01:04 I don't have, I don't know. You can pay me in Bitcoin. Yeah, well, because you're rich. I'm not. How do I send... To the moon, Alice. How do I send a link? Bitcoin's almost at $60,000 right now.
Starting point is 01:01:18 GameStop to the moon. Hey, how do I send this link to somebody? Let me see your phone. Share. Yeah, I can't find it, though. What does it have that thumbnail? No, it's that one. No.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Every time I do it, it's like a minute video. Type in the person's name right there and send it. Okay. All right. Does anybody want in the chat? Anyone want a painting? What? Did you type his email address in?
Starting point is 01:01:46 Yeah. A bunch of times. Oh, so you did the Picasso on the... I see that's a Picasso. So Matt's PayPal is, if you want... How much you charge you for the paintings? 275, and I'll ship them to you, provided you're in the United States.
Starting point is 01:02:00 275 and your mailing address to contact. dot Matthew.cox at gmail.com. PayPal, that's his PayPal email. Matthew, no, no. Contact. Matthew. com at gmail.com. Yeah, that's what's connected to my PayPal.
Starting point is 01:02:18 And to my cash app. And cash app too. Your cash app is dollar sign CoxCon 69. Yeah. But it's connected to the same email address. Same email address for cash up. So if you want to buy one, or if you want Matt,
Starting point is 01:02:36 or if you would like Matt, you can donate, send some money to Matt's PayPal, and he will do a live commissioned piece of fine art for you. Right here live on the podcast, he'll draw it for us. We can all watch it. For how much?
Starting point is 01:02:53 How much is that one? I have no idea, bro. This is something he's, this is your- Drop 50 bucks and we'll give you one of those. I got a phone number. You want to call it? Screen it.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Make sure they're legit. What am I supposed to screen? What do they say? They just dropped the number. They didn't say nothing? No, they just dropped the digits. Yeah. Huh?
Starting point is 01:03:13 I know. Yeah, I get all kinds of people like send me random emails that like, call me, bro, and it's like a number or they just say crazy stuff. And it's like, what? I saw you on, uh, I saw your podcast. You're amazing. And, like, call me. Be cool, bro.
Starting point is 01:03:32 What are you doing? I mean... You want to be your friend. Yeah, but, you know, give me more than that. Give me... Explain to me what's going on. Like, you sound like a psychopath. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:42 You sent me, you sent me a five-word sentence. Like, you know, like, basically where... I feel like, you know, I looked into your eyes and I can tell where kindred spirits, call me. Calling you, psycho? You're going to have me in the middle... In a well somewhere asking me to rub lotion on my fucking skin. Absolutely not. Hey, do you think the Scientology girl come on the podcast?
Starting point is 01:04:06 She would never come on the podcast. She wouldn't, right. She's pretty, she's, uh, can we call her? I don't know. There's no. Matter of fact, if I sit, if, if I think even talking about her may have been, did someone just cash at me 69 cents? Nice.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Nice. 69 cents. That's awesome. They deserve a picture. You should draw them a commission. It was probably a dollar and it took money out. It was hurtful, though, is what it is. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:31 So let me think, what is her name? Okay, let's go. I'm currently doing a live podcast with concrete, period, and Danny, comma, with concrete, comma, would like to call you, period. What are your thoughts, question mark? This should be good. We're going to get a Scientologist live on the podcast, on the call in. I hope she lets us call.
Starting point is 01:05:06 So have you guys hung out? Never going to let you call. Tell me this. Have you guys seen each other since that first date? No. She's not allowed to see you again. You're done. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Yeah, you're done. That check was way too hot. Someone just sent me a dollar to cash app. Nice. I mean, and the funny thing is, is I know I'm supposed to be appreciative. So I appreciate that. Thank you very much. But he's really not.
Starting point is 01:05:33 I think it's, it's, I have a, a guy that every time I post, he sends me $2. Really? Yeah. One time he sent me $5, he goes, because that was an exceptional video. Didn't she actually appreciate because it adds up? It's a couple cups of coffee a month. Didn't you just do some fucking commercial for some home security company? Yeah, yeah, right? So a home security company hired you and flew you out to Oklahoma, right?
Starting point is 01:06:00 Well, it was, it's called, it's called Home Title. lock. So it's like life lock, but for your home. So it protects people against the crimes that I actually committed. I actually met Newt Gingrich. What? Yeah. Nate Gingrich, right? Like Newt Gingrich was like 100 years old when I was young. And so when they told me Newt Gingrich is going to be interviewing you, I went, he's still alive. And they were like, he's 77, but yeah, he's actually, he's, he's, doing good. He's, he's doing well. He sounds like, that's nuts. Wow. What was that like? What was that like? It was fine. He was,
Starting point is 01:06:36 you know, nice guy. There were two FBI agents there. It's nice to talk to an FBI agent when they're not looking for you. So, you know, I met a bunch of people.
Starting point is 01:06:45 It was like a huge production. They flew me in. I stayed two nights. I only worked one day. So, you know, it was, it was cool.
Starting point is 01:06:53 It was in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, which is really a nice city. Like, I really felt like Oklahoma City was like, going to be like scummy. Bro, everywhere I went. Nice, clean.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Everybody's, light. It was really very nice. Huh? I've never been. I mean, I've been before, but it was when I was flown in by the BOP and Con Air, and they
Starting point is 01:07:14 unloaded me into the holdover for two weeks and then loaded me back on the plane and flew me out. So I didn't get to see a lot of the city on that trip. You get to see many sites, huh? No, no. I couldn't. Matter of fact, it was freezing cold when they caught me, too, so I couldn't,
Starting point is 01:07:29 the windows, I remember, were frozen up. So you couldn't even see out the windows all white. So I got to see nothing. That bites. Yeah, yeah, you know. So any more hot dates besides the Scientology girl? No. No?
Starting point is 01:07:44 Nothing that, um, no, not really. So you're on the up and up. At least you're feeling better now. I mean, I'm starting to feel. You've kind of, you've kind of get past the depression. Well, I am because I'm starting to basically come to the conclusion that, you know, like I was holding out that the thing with Jess and I, like, was going to work out.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Like she's going to figure it out. She's screwed up. She's going to come back. She's going to apologize. I'm going to give her some shit. But I'm going to be okay. I'm going to be like, look, you got to figure this out. We got to work this out.
Starting point is 01:08:16 And I was going to give her a hard time. But the bottom line is this. I'm at the point now where I realize that's probably not going to happen. No, it's definitely not going to happen, Matt. So. Yeah, you need to move on. Right. $2.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Someone just sent me $2. That's great. You might not sell one painting on this podcast, Matt. The last podcast, you made like five grand, right? No, no. I sold the one painting for $2,200. I actually sold that painting twice. I had to paint another guy bought it for $700.
Starting point is 01:08:42 I painted him another painting. Damn. You made at least $4,000 in that last live podcast. Did not make $4,000? What are you talking about? Oh, you're right. No, you didn't make any money. I forgot.
Starting point is 01:08:53 No, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. Someone just sent me. Someone did send me. What? Whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait. Last time you guys made some cracks I didn't catch. What was that? I later saw it.
Starting point is 01:09:03 But later when people told me, did you know that Danny said this? I didn't know if I was speaking at a turn because the feds are listening and you owe them money. Oh, no, I pay them. I'm good. Okay, well, somebody just sent me money. Actually, yeah, someone sent me money. How much money? The someone, Matthew Clements sent me 266.
Starting point is 01:09:28 They took money out for the people. Which color does he want? Matthew, Matthew Clements. Matthew Clements. Do you want pink? Do you want? Dark. The doctor sent me money to. What's that middle one? What color is that? Maroon.
Starting point is 01:09:42 That's like a purple. It's like a maroon, purple. No, no. That's a merlo. It's a merlo. Yeah, that's a merlo. It's magenta. We got a punk pink, a merlo, and two oranges. I actually like the pink. I like the pink too.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Pink popped out the most. Mr. Clemens, what color would you like? Let us know in the chat. Got to let me know. The guy that sent you 69 cents wants to know what your favorite Bond movie is. is. My favorite Bond movie? That's what he said.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Oh man, that's tough. That's a tough one. No, I would, do I really want to, do I want to say Casino Royale?
Starting point is 01:10:17 I don't, I don't want to say that. That's a tough question, bro. You paid 69 cents. I'd have to watch, listen, and it's in,
Starting point is 01:10:26 and it's a tough one, man. Like, I haven't seen the new one. New one might be amazing. I heard it was really good. I, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:42 What about Specter? Specter is pretty good. Spector was good, but I really liked Casino Royale. Cassano Royal was pretty good. Have you seen any Bond movies? Have you never seen a Bond? What are you?
Starting point is 01:10:53 I'm sure I've seen a couple of Bond movies. Are you serious? You guys don't know anything. So you don't know anything. I love James Bond. Yeah. I've always loved James Bond. I haven't watched a Bond movie since I was...
Starting point is 01:11:03 Are you serious? Like I was 12 maybe last I won. Who the hell plays Bond now? I mean, I mean, um, Daniel Craig. Yeah, Daniel Craig. They're like, yeah, yeah. He's like a little, like, British guy.
Starting point is 01:11:16 A little British guy. He's like a kind of little, he's little-looking, right? He's, he's frail. Frail? Frail? He's James Bond. Daniel Craig. Google him. Tell the crew I said hi. So, Jen.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Craig. Jen just said to tell the crew I said hi. Who's Jen? Jen is the Scientologist. She said, not tonight, but thanks for the. the invite, we'll catch up tomorrow. Tell the crew I said hello. What's up, Jen?
Starting point is 01:11:45 Howdy, Jen. Tell her to tune in. Tune in. Hit the chat. Are you... I can't... It's picking up all this crap. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Are you watching? Period. It's on live. Period. The N64. Is she... Does she know Grant Cardone? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:12:12 Why is it? He's a Scientologist. I don't know. She didn't know anybody. She lives in Tampa. She didn't know Grant Cardo. Grant Cardo is a Scientologist? We're talking about you, period.
Starting point is 01:12:25 And Scientology. What? No, we're not, you're talking about Scientology. We're both talking about. I'm nothing. You have an issue with Scientology. I have no issue with Scientology. So you would be a Scientologist?
Starting point is 01:12:40 I mean, if I believed in organized religion in any way, I mean, I'm not opposed to it. I mean, honestly, the idea of Dionetics isn't, like, Like it's a very, it's all about bettering yourself. Right. I like that idea. And getting rid of all the negative resistance in your life, all the negative influences in your life. I like that. It's a very, yeah, I love it too.
Starting point is 01:12:59 The general idea of dionetics, the problem is once you get, once you get past that, then you start getting all of these crazy, like, how clear are your, you, your, your OT level. And you start giving them all this info during the auditing, the auditing sessions are weird. When you hold those, like, you have to hold these metal rods and they interrogate you and they ask you these questions. I don't, I mean, I don't know anything about that. It's kind of crazy. But you would, you would try it, though. I'd try anything pretty much.
Starting point is 01:13:25 I mean, with the exception. I think Scientology should get Matt Cox. I think he would be a great addition to the religion. What are you doing? And the prison of belief. Okay, so somebody just said, I will buy, Hugh, this guy, Hugh. Have you seen the documentary? He said, I'll buy, he just said the documentary.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Did you, he just said, the prison of belief. Yeah, the prison of belief. It's an HBO special. Have you not watched it? No, I don't. Bro, you need to watch it. It's a fucking amazing documentary. I think it's the same guy who did the Enron documentary.
Starting point is 01:14:03 The smartest guys in the room. That was a great documentary. Same guy, I think. Pretty sure. Okay. It's honestly, it's one of the best documentaries I've seen in a long time. No, I've seen a lot. But that HBO Scientology one was fucking bonkers.
Starting point is 01:14:20 And I had that guy, Mike Rinder. and another guy, John Sweeney on the show recently. They both did lots of work on Scientology. What are you doing? Should we end this thing now? Oh, sorry, go ahead. What's up? Nothing.
Starting point is 01:14:36 I'm wondering what you're doing. You're just sitting there scrolling on your phone. I mean, I'm barely listening to you. I barely, somebody sent me $3. That's great. So I barely, Hugh, yeah, somebody he's now, he's trying to talk to you now, Alex Gibbon, whatever. Alex Gibney.
Starting point is 01:14:52 That's what his name is. Is the director. Now he's talking, he should call in. I mean, you can call in and talk to the game. Yeah, have this guy call in. Tell this guy, what's his number? Let's have him call in. Maybe he wants to talk.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Matt Cox doesn't want to listen to anybody. He just wants to hear herself talk. I'm listening to everything. What a fucking dick. So Jen said she's not watching, by the way. She's not allowed to watch. She's not allowed. She's not allowed, I promise you.
Starting point is 01:15:18 They're talking about her in the chat. She doesn't have YouTube. She is... She's not allowed to have YouTube. She's allowed to have YouTube. No, she's not. Okay, hold on. Let me ask her. Ask her.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Are you allowed to use the internet? Hold on. The real internet. You want me to ask her? If I type it, we'll be here all night. Yes. Okay. Danny says you're not watching because you're not allowed to use YouTube or the internet, period.
Starting point is 01:15:43 That's not true. comma. Right? Question mark. Because then she will find out the truth about Scientology. Like, she hasn't already. fucking, look, she's a, she's a business person.
Starting point is 01:15:55 I mean, she's like, work in corporate. A lot of Scientologists are business persons, people. So you think if they don't hear anything? You don't think they hear anything? You're saying, you're saying, you're making an argument, opposing argument. Well, first of all, my argument is kind of, like, comedy. I'm kind of just,
Starting point is 01:16:11 I'm halfway just, like, trying to push her buttons. But, uh, it is true to an extent that I know some people aren't allowed to do the research. Maybe, maybe that's old. Maybe they don't do that anymore. She, listen, she seemed fine. She didn't seem crazy. No.
Starting point is 01:16:28 No. You would join Scientology for her if she's like, Matt, Matt, come live with, let's move in. Come on. I'm a guy. I'm a guy. I'd pretty much do anything for a piece of ass. Of course I'd do it. I'd fake it.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Move in with being. I'd be Jewish. I'd become Jewish if, listen, if you were a Muslim, I'm willing to, let's start praying five times a day. I mean, let's do it. What does she look like? Tomorrow. That's what I need to know.
Starting point is 01:16:49 This lady right here. This lady goes tomorrow. Matt Cox, move in with me. She said not true. Give me your babies. She said not true. The question was not true. I'm not believing until I go through her phone.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Until you go through her phone. You're crazy. So, all right. Okay. If what have your bait, first of all, I'm 51 years old. She's like, okay, that's ridiculous. Matt Cox. She wants to spend the rest of her life with you.
Starting point is 01:17:16 She wants to have five kids with you, 10 kids with you. And she sounds more and more saying all the time You guys live happier ever, happy Happily ever after. But you have to join Scientology. I mean, yeah, why not? Sure, let's do this. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:34 I think you'd be a great addition to Scientology, honestly. You could be like the new John Travolta because they try to recruit celebrities to try to promote their... I'm not a celebrity. I'm like the anti-celebrity. You kind of are a celebrity. You're kind of a celebrity.
Starting point is 01:17:49 No, I'm like infamous, not a slub. Didn't you go to a Starbucks and some guy like bumrust you because you saw your Matt Cox? You're a celebrity. Some guy, but he knew me because. Austin saw you at the airport. He just recognized it. Austin doesn't, isn't impressed by me. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:18:06 He still knows who you are. Tolerates me. I mean, it's different when people recognize you. You're famous. I can't do this. Okay, so what else are we doing? We're selling paint ins. We're not.
Starting point is 01:18:19 We sold one paint. So which painting does that kid want that gave you? I don't know. He hasn't come into it. I didn't see him talking about it. All right. Does anybody else want a painting? No?
Starting point is 01:18:30 Maybe so. Hold on. We need to sell some more paintings. What are you doing now, Matt? I'm reading something that somebody sent me. I don't, I don't even know what this is. You tell me, what is this? Let's call somebody.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Let's call somebody. Something in the, what is this? Somebody sent me a screenshot of something. What the hell is that saying? Ha, ha, ha. Hope he's rotting and lockup. Maybe some lucky person will stumble across his stash and keep it. Who is that?
Starting point is 01:19:09 So he's saying. Jamie Duhill. I'm saying it. Who's rotting and lockup? I'm not. Who sent you this? You know how to use the phone? We're doing a podcast, man.
Starting point is 01:19:20 What the fuck are you doing? It's about the podcast. Somebody wants you to do a painting of Frank Amadeo. I've dressed up like the notorious B-I-G with the gold crown. Oh, fuck yeah, Matt. In the Coogee sweater. Do it right now. Not do it right now?
Starting point is 01:19:36 I got on the, what? A little thing. Yes. Did you hear what all that shit was? For what? We'll do it. I'll walk you through it. Get a canvas real quick.
Starting point is 01:19:43 You can't paint that that quick. Get a canvas and a... You could probably sketch you something. Yeah, just sketch it. Nothing recognizable. That's fine. As long as Matt Cox did it. Yeah, that's all it.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Send the money. Send it. Let's call it money. Get the canvas. Get the canvas. Get the canvas. Get the canvas. Get the fucking can.
Starting point is 01:20:00 I want you to draw Amadeo. Somebody will buy it. You brought it. Are you, so if nobody buys it? If nobody buys it, I'll buy it. How much? 50 bucks. Send the money and I'll sketch the fucking thing.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Just do it, Matt. Come on. Oh, for Christ's sakes. You're irritating as fuck all. You're a grumpy old man, Matt Cox. Does everyone understand how what I have to deal with? He's heartbroken. You got to be sensitive. I have to deal with fucking Oscar the Grouch over here.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Yeah, let's paint something. They want to see the painting some more. You got to hold one up there. For everybody listening, not watching Matt's over in the corner, giving his canvas and his easel and his paint brushes. Matt reminds me of, does anybody watch Lord of the Rings? Have you seen Lord of the Rings? He's like Tyrion Lannister.
Starting point is 01:20:52 He's just so smart and articulate and little. That's what I'm talking about. And cute. The canvas, the markers. I'm ready to see what you got going on. Okay, here he is. He's back. I might bid in on it.
Starting point is 01:21:06 He's back with the canvas and the... I want to buy these things. And the paint pens. All right, Matt. Do you need a reference picture? He's stressed. Matt's stressed, everybody. I mean, there's nothing you need reference for.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Yeah, I do need for the guy. No, no, no, no, no. I want you to draw Matt, uh, what's his name, Amadeo? Frank Amadeo from mental. Only mental. I don't want you copy a nothing. They want the biggie version.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Just first draw his face, okay? You can draw what they want so they'll buy it. Tell his face. What am I doing? You're drawing a mental portrait. Listen, granted, this is better than prison, but it's like, what does my life come to? You're a whore for YouTube.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Exactly. I mean, it's, it's... You're a YouTube prostitute. Now, draw the fucking painting, Matt Cox. I used to have 12 guys that worked for me. We were kicking out millions of dollars in bad paper every fucking month. You understand?
Starting point is 01:21:58 Oh, yeah, yeah. You got it. And, you know, and now I'm taking shit from fucking Danny and hat right. Draw Frankom. Out of everybody in the room, including Austin, because I can just hear him snickering.
Starting point is 01:22:14 The hat rack is actually the most sane person in the room. Except for this chick, she doesn't said a fucking thing she got here, so I don't know anything about it. It's not her job to say a thing, Matt, you're the star here. You're the one that's supposed to be entertaining in the crowd.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Okay. Honestly. Look at this thing. Look at it. It's all white. You've got to get the paint in there. Is that how it works? I think so.
Starting point is 01:22:39 I hear the whispering All right Frank Amadeo With the biggie hat coming up Let's see what he's got going here Oh he's taking a break He's scrolling on his phone It does nice paint markers The deck of colors
Starting point is 01:22:54 Oh fuck Come on Matt Okay This is that was The Scientologist shit What's you say No forget it now I'm doing this
Starting point is 01:23:03 Tell me what she said Forget it What I'm pick Pick something I'm supposed to do Can you do two things at the same time Can you fucking ink your marker And tell me what she said I'm ink it
Starting point is 01:23:11 Look at the ink That's nice. Wow, that's beautiful. A lot of ink. Can somebody hold this up for him while he paints it? Shane, go hold it for him. Don't, don't. Here, put it up on here.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Stop, let him order people around. Put it on there. Okay? This fucking guy. Tell him, man. We need the live view of you doing it. Can I get the stuff ready? Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Fuck, what a, oh, gee. Oh, so bad for your wife. Fuck. Shout out to Lexi. I saw her in the chat. I feel horrible for her. She's got to be going through hell. She's made some bad decisions.
Starting point is 01:23:49 No, she'll take half. She's probably put in the work. Yeah, she's earned whatever she can end up. The warden runs the show over there. I'm hoping she's got like a 10-year plan. She's 5 in to a 10-year plan. No, she's already like 11 in. Is she, you been dating her for 11 years?
Starting point is 01:24:09 Yeah. Oh, fuck, boy. She's putting in a time. Real, recognized real MacLock. What are the other ones called? Pasco. Pascopens. Pascopens, yeah. So they don't have Poscopens at, they have them at...
Starting point is 01:24:24 They're at Michael's. No, they don't have them at Mikel. Really? I used to always buy POSC pens for Michael's, because I used to do a little art on my surfboards. The Pascopens. I assure you, I ask, they don't carry them. That's weird. And this is what she said.
Starting point is 01:24:35 She said, oh, these are just as good. They're not. Really? By the way. They're not as good. It's all right. They're pretty good. We'll make it work. These are good. These actually work pretty good.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Aren't you guys going to keep talking? Yeah, I'm going to walk everybody through it. How many people even watching this thing? It doesn't matter. 350. Are you serious? There's that many lonely souls watching Danny? They're watching Matthew Cox.
Starting point is 01:24:57 90% of them right now are in the chat. They're watching Matthew Picockos. Shut up, Danny. You fucking asshole. I love it when they really fucking go out hard. So, answer me. I'm going to talk to you about art while you're doing this, Matt. So when you went to college for your fine arts degree, you went to USF, right?
Starting point is 01:25:17 Yes. You know all this. So I know, but I want to talk. I'm interested in it. So when you go for a fine arts degree, what kind of art, like what do you, when you say I'm at Cox High, I want to get my degree in fine arts? Is there different categories of fine arts? Because your style is obviously very unique. Like me personally, I'm a fan of like the abstract looking art that you can't really tell.
Starting point is 01:25:41 hell what the fuck's going on. Like, Pollock, what's his name? Jackson Pollock. I love Jackson Pollock's work with the paint splattered everywhere. You don't know what's going on, but it just, you look at it and it just fucking grabs you by the throat because you just want to stare at it and it's, you can
Starting point is 01:25:57 see whatever you want in it. But your style is more like comic book style or like Lost Surfboard style. Like back in the day, lost surfboards... They would call that pop art, which would be... Pop art, yeah. More reminiscent of Andy Warhol or
Starting point is 01:26:12 Roy Lichtenstein Lichtenstein I don't know how to say that he's Yeah So there's there are You know Those guys that are like Talking to your mic
Starting point is 01:26:22 Try to talk into your mic at least Yeah Okay so yeah That would be more So there's a guy Actually there's a guy Jason Skelton In Tampa
Starting point is 01:26:31 He's like huge So what inspired you To want to become a fine artist You're saying The fine artist thing Okay Give your mic closer It's an art
Starting point is 01:26:42 I mean, what inspired me is that... Yeah, like, what made you want? Was there somebody who you saw... Recently? No, no, when you first started in college and you wanted to be... Because I could... I first started, it didn't.
Starting point is 01:26:51 It started when I was in... When I was a kid. So who was your first inspiration? I want to be like that. Was there anybody that you wanted to be like? Yeah, Frank Verzetta. Frank Verzetta? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:00 And Boris, I forget his... Boris... Whatever his last name was. Boris... Boris is his last name, I think. Anyway. Yeah. Frank Fersetta.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Yeah. Can you look him up real quick so we can see some pictures of him? How the hell do you spill that? If you put, even come close, it'll come on. Yeah. What? There's not many people like that. Frank Frizzetta.
Starting point is 01:27:18 He did a lot. Yeah. Ver. Ver seta. No, not V with an F. F-F-F-S-E-S-E-T-T-A. F-R-E-S-E-T-A. Just type that.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Broseeta. Yeah. There's a A. Frazada. Fresetta. Click on images. Of course. I was like, like, 14, 15 years old.
Starting point is 01:27:42 I loved his stuff. I used to read comic books. He illustrated a ton of comic books. That's like old, uh, you know, it was like Man of War covers or the Rumpelmints guy. Ooh, that looks like a fucking magic card.
Starting point is 01:27:55 He's awesome. I wonder if he did this. What? Look at this. I'll tell you. And then look at the Rumble. Watch the Rumblemints logo. Have you ever had Rumble Mitz,
Starting point is 01:28:06 Macawks? No, I don't know what that is. It's a shitty liquor. It's an awesome liquor. It is pretty awesome. All right, what are my,
Starting point is 01:28:12 what am I doing? What am I drawing? We're doing Frank Amadeo with the bigie crown. All right. Ten bucks. I got ten bucks from Horton. Cool. Trying to get the Batman arresting Gary Sullivan. I actually have this guy who wants me to paint Batman arresting Gary Sullivan.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Wow. We just fucking expose. So Rumpelments basically copied a Frank Fersetta painting for their logo for one of their pictures. You remember that band Mano War? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You remember it that vividly? what the fucking posters look like. Look at these.
Starting point is 01:28:45 This is their album. All right, Matt. Come on. Let's go. What am I doing? We're doing Frank Amadeo with... And what's you wearing? Wait, show me the picture.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Wait, let's do Frank Omadeo's face with the biggie crown. The biggie crown and the chain. That's it. Okay, hold on. Can I get a reference picture for Frank? I have them. I've got it. I already have it.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Got one for Frank. So let's go with a reference photo. So Frank Fersetta. And who else? Boris? Boris? Yeah. Vand whatever and it just put in Boris art
Starting point is 01:29:18 Orris art Something's gonna come up I forget his last name What you want me to look up? Never mind, don't worry about it Boris Okay, what am I doing? Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, let me think So what's the difference between someone like you
Starting point is 01:29:34 And someone like Jackson Pollock? He's dead I'm only close to it I mean your fucking paint style I mean he's completely abstract It's, it's... What was he like? Do you know anything about him? Did you have to study him at all?
Starting point is 01:29:49 What the fuck? What the fuck? What am I supposed to do, bro? I mean, I can't. What am I? There you go. Get creative. This one. It's got a little bit of a bump here. You can work around it. Okay. I'm just saying it's not like a perfect canvas and that bothers me, but that's fine. All right. So we're going to go with, uh, fucking you guys want to have the biggie. Okay. Okay. Here we go, everybody. Matt Cox.
Starting point is 01:30:20 is he's doing the sketch now what is going on I'm doing a walk I'm doing a walk I'm doing a play by play am I doing the whole head just the head in the crown that's it
Starting point is 01:30:31 I would do yeah I think so okay fuck it do a bust you know what a bust is I know what a bust is okay I'm gonna get the audio
Starting point is 01:30:45 yeah that's beautiful look at that walk us through it while you're doing it Matt so I'm sketching Amadeo this is
Starting point is 01:30:56 the worst. I can't... That's awesome. We need to take some calls as well while he's painting. Nobody wants to call. Somebody give us your number. We'll call you while Matt does this painting. We'll call the first motherfucker that puts their number in the chat.
Starting point is 01:31:18 I got a number. Frank Amadea. People love him. People do love him. He's the emperor. The emperor. Wow, that's great. So he's already got the face pretty much sketched out.
Starting point is 01:31:38 What do I do? What do I do? Send Austin the number? Yeah. How do I want to send it to him? I send him on, like, a paper airplane? Yeah, write it out here and show it and give it to him. I need a pen.
Starting point is 01:31:52 What happened to the pen you were writing with earlier? I didn't write this. Matt did. It's right there. All right, so Matt's got the hair. He's doing the hair right now. He's already got the face, the shoulders. He's doing the outline. This is a great fucking painting or a sketch. He's doing the Biggie Crown. This person put that in the chat like 20 fucking times. They're going to be stoked to your drive.
Starting point is 01:32:23 Really? Let's give it to, let's give it to Austin so we can call them in. I want to talk to him while Matt's doing the sketch. There's like a hundred numbers coming in now. Is there? Yeah. Let's do this guy first.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Who? The guy that you were just looking at. Who put it in 20 times? No, no, I'm talking about the painting, I mean. Oh, oh, okay. The painting. Just pick one, bro. All right, we're calling Lou Bob.
Starting point is 01:32:45 I mean, how about you, Austin? Just pick one and call him. You see the numbers? Yeah, Austin's got the chat pulled up. Yeah, call him up. They said you look parched, Matt. You need a drink? Matt, I got some tequila right here.
Starting point is 01:33:00 I don't need... I have Casamigos tequila. He doesn't drink? George Clooney. I think we should get him drunk for the first time, though, on this podcast. It's against his parole, probably. No, he's allowed to drink.
Starting point is 01:33:11 Actually, I think you're not supposed to drink, but I don't think they give a shit. They can show up on a drug test. Show us what you got so far. Show us what you have so far. Wow, look at that, bro. The number you were trying to. to reach is no longer in service.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Fake number. Throw another one. That's fucking great, Matt. This dude is talented. This is silly this. So silly. Look at his little tiny arms. I honestly love this. Can I have this for my shelf, my bookshelf?
Starting point is 01:33:47 What's wrong? What's going on? I'll pay you $100 for this. You kidding me? As long as nobody outbids me. I got 100 on this painting, this drawing. The person that requested this wants to call in. I'm bidding 100 for this.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Fuck them. 100? Yeah, I like this. Oh, fuck. You better have cash. Who are we calling? Do you know the name, Austin? What is Dave?
Starting point is 01:34:20 Hayden? All right. Oh, the jets. We need the jets, the jet plane. This is good. The text now subscriber you were trying to reach is not available. Please leave your message after the tone. Hang up.
Starting point is 01:34:36 nerd. Horton just sent another 10 bucks for something. You want something about... This is fucking dope, Matt. This is a great piece of art right here. He's got like the rays
Starting point is 01:34:53 coming out of Frank's head, the orange rays. This is sick. Now, can you make his crown... Do you have a gold marker over there? Oh, there you go. If you donate 10 bucks in the chat, we'll call you. If you give a real number.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Yeah, if you give a real number, we'll call it whatever number you put in there. to be real. Max, send a number. Show us what you got so far. The progress. This is beautiful. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:35:27 Wow, you made him look buff. Fuck, yeah. We'll take bids on this. I got 100 on this one. What are you thinking, Matt? What am I thinking? Yeah, turn the mic towards you. I'm thinking I should have stayed in school
Starting point is 01:35:52 and I shouldn't have committed fraud. What do you mean? You got a fucking master's degree. A master's degree? You got a bachelor's? Get a BFA? A fine arts degree. Hey, how's it going, man? Awesome.
Starting point is 01:36:08 Thanks for calling in. Yeah, beautiful. Yeah, I've really honored and enjoyed a lot of math stuff. Do you really? Put your headphones on, Matt, so you can hear this guy, okay? Matt's doing up. I feel like everybody's yelling at me. Matt's being a portrait right now.
Starting point is 01:36:26 I got walked in. People are being yelling at me. What's going on? Let me know. Matt's on. Matt can hear you now. What's up? Do you got any relationship advice on him?
Starting point is 01:36:35 No, that's relationship. No, I've really enjoyed Matt's stuff over the past few months. And here's one of the things, especially when it came down to the situation with Jess and stuff, which is my ex is all I think. But, you know, seeing these kind of things happen and everything and knowing everything that he has gone through and done in the past,
Starting point is 01:36:56 him coming to a point where realizing that standing in honor is important, to me is that's really where everybody needs to achieve to be. That's some good advice. What's your name? What's your name, man? Brian Parker. Brian Parker. Where are you from?
Starting point is 01:37:15 Where you live? Well, right now I live just south of Tampa, down by Fort Myers, originally from Michigan. Okay. But, you know, looking at being deep in all this stuff. When I first came to Florida, I moved to every grade city. That was like, that's where they were bringing in all the jobs. drugs and stuff and people were kind of looking at me sideways you know what i'm saying you know until i figured out what was going on there yeah and it's an amazing life down here and i'm
Starting point is 01:37:45 looking for living on the water how old are you i am 51 now so i can kind of i can sympathize with that a little bit although i'm 5-7 so i mean i guess i'm a giant you're a giant God, he'd be five to eight with a good pair of shoes. No, well, you know, I don't even need a good pair of shoes. But, you know, no, in my eyes with what he's gone through and where he's come to mentally, you know, somebody from the Church of Scientology, good God, you know, they're supposed to be ascending to a higher spiritual level. In my viewpoint, Matt has already ascended to a much higher spiritual level than many of them
Starting point is 01:38:28 because he can realize what things are really about. He's learning about who he really is, where he's really at, and that's really what it's all supposed to be about. What do you mean? What do you mean when you say who he really is? Explain that. Who he really is. When I say that, it's because we are birthed or born into this world with a misconception
Starting point is 01:38:52 and given a playbook that we're supposed to follow, and it's never really about who we really are. are inside. You know what I'm saying? Right. And so we have to come to a point in life where we sit back and go, wait a second, who am I really? Am I supposed to be following this little playbook? Is that really what is laid out for me in my life, even though I see everybody around me following the same script? And you kind of sit back and go, okay, wait a minute, who am I really? Yeah. Instead of being told who you are and what you have to do. You've got to decide that for yourself.
Starting point is 01:39:30 Hell yeah. Matt, what do you think about that? Sure. Have you ever taken psychedelic mushrooms? Yeah. Hell, yeah. I'm asking Matt or me? I'm asking you.
Starting point is 01:39:44 I know Matt hasn't. Yeah, I did try them a couple times. The first time, actually, I had started, I tried acid. I had just gotten out of... Hell yeah. I had been to the Marine Corps, gone through most of boot camp, and saw what it was all about and said, yeah, this ain't too cool. I'm leaving this shit.
Starting point is 01:40:04 And they said, oh, we'll send you to 11worth making little rocks out of big rocks. I said, okay, you've got my address. So anyway, I left. And before I got back to the house at night, somebody said, hey, try smash it. So I said, okay, cool. And I tried it. Nothing happened after 20 minutes. So I tried another hit.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Oh, no. Yeah, so that was an interesting experience. But to me, you don't need those things to really connect to who you really are, where you're really from. I think it's really about the experiences you go through in life and things like that. And one of the things that I've noticed, listening to the Matt, listening to many other people, is that these people that live the ordinary life, you graduate high school, you go to college, you start a family, yada, yeah, yeah. You know what? That's boring shit.
Starting point is 01:40:58 Nothing ever happens there. people that can go out on the limits and really try to accomplish things that are kind of fringe, that's where your amazing stories come from. That's your amazing experiences come from. And those are the things that really teach you about yourself. I've said that many times. That's profound. What kind of weed are we smoking on tonight, my man?
Starting point is 01:41:21 I don't know about profound, but I think it's definitely true. If you want to hang out, you want to have dinner with somebody, you don't want to have a dinner with the guy that's in a, accountant that he graduated high school, he married his college sweetheart, they had three and a half kids, there are 2.5 kids. He got a job working at IBM as in the accounting department, and he teaches Little League. He's a wonderful guy, and God bless him, he's the backbone of America, and we need middle class, upper middle class people to run this country. But the truth is, that's a guy that after dinner with him, you want to shoot yourself in the head. Now, the guy that's had
Starting point is 01:41:57 three DUIs, right? Hell yeah. And been arrested a couple of times. And he was maybe... Rob a couple banks. You know, that's the guy that you're like, this guy's got some stories. He's pretty cool. Yeah, this guy, you know, I mean, he's, he's obviously he's a job. Maybe he's a job. Maybe. Maybe. That's the guy that's, you go, now this guy's been through some shit. He could tell me some stories. Well, that first guy that you described, that's the guy that I call the good slave.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Yeah, nice. The good slave. Okay. Cool, man. Well, hey, Thanks for calling, man. I really appreciate your time. We enjoyed hearing your words of wisdom. And keep watching the show. Oh, absolutely. I'll bounce back for you, too.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Be blessed. Have a great night. Appreciate it. That guy was cool. That guy was super cool. All right, Austin. Call somebody else. That was a good one, Austin.
Starting point is 01:42:46 We got a good vibe going here tonight. This painting is turning out great. Matt's got these crazy fucking ultraviolet rays shooting out of Frank's head. Fuck, this is good. I'm already tired. This is better than I thought. His hands are getting tired He's got to raise some money here
Starting point is 01:43:04 This is horrible No this is good man We need to get The person who suggested this They won't send the number They want to email the number Yeah email to email to Daniel at Concrete.com They probably don't want it in the chat right?
Starting point is 01:43:24 That's fine Here somebody just threw 10 bucks and put their phone number And call them awesome Yeah yeah call the guy who just donated 10 bucks Marson somebody donated 10 bucks said let's get on that Jason painting
Starting point is 01:43:37 Oh I know that's that Oh oh Call this guy I know that I know who that is He didn't give the number He didn't give the number I designed his Jason painting Really?
Starting point is 01:43:48 He already designed it from you Hello? Hey what's going on bro Hey what's up guys How you guys doing? Good man how are you? What's your name? Where you from? Man my name is Alex man
Starting point is 01:43:59 I'm originally from Romania, watching you guys. Wow. I've heard Alex. Alex wants this for his girlfriend. She loves Jason. Oh, really? I'm going to show you my... Listen, even showing you the Jason thing,
Starting point is 01:44:13 you're going to give me a hard time about it. But it's my take on Jason, like a new modern-looking kind of... When I'm done with it, it'll... I'm going to do it in magenta, like that blood red kind of dark. Magenta with hot pink. That's Merlot. It's not Murlough. It's the tube says magenta.
Starting point is 01:44:29 So it's a super, I got a super cool take on the Jason. It's going to be cool. You're just not going to think it's cool. What's your name again, man? My name is Alex, bro. Hey, do you have any words of wisdom for us? No, I just want to ask Matt a question, man. About the real estate, if it doesn't mind answering.
Starting point is 01:44:47 The question is like, what does he think the next bubble is going to burst? Is the market going to fall or is it going to keep on going up with the mortgages right now? Because everybody, everything is selling like crazy. Everybody is buying like crazy. The rates are down. How long does he think this is going to last? Or what does he predict for the future? Is it going to be crashing like in 2008?
Starting point is 01:45:08 Or is it going to be going down slowly? Or what's his take on it? Oh, I think it's going to crash. I think it's going to be 2008 all over again. I figure there's probably, they could probably keep it propped up for another, what, 12 months to 18 months maybe? But, I mean, how long can you just keep pumping money into a system until it eventually
Starting point is 01:45:28 crashes. So do you think it's going to be like 2008 or it's going to be worse, especially with this $2 trillion bill that they passed with the inflation coming up? Do you think it's going to be worse than 2008? Or it's going to be something like 2008? I honestly it's just a gut feeling. Like I don't have the numbers.
Starting point is 01:45:44 I wouldn't even know how to begin to calculate those numbers, but I'd say within the realm of the 2008 financial crisis. I'd say it's about probably in the same, that same realm. I mean, the bottom line is the government will bail it out and then it'll take
Starting point is 01:46:00 the problem is, is this time, it's not like they have anybody to blame. You know what I'm saying? Like this time, it's like who do you blame for this? You can't blame Wall Street. So they're basically going to blame this pandemic, right? Basically, because of the pandemic, everything is going to be.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Everybody's going to get paid bills down. But the difference is that you have to think about the TARP package. The TARP package was passed. They went and they said, we're going to give the banks the money. We're going to take stock and exchange. Well, keep in mind about 90 to 95% of the TARP funds have been paid back. Who's going to pay back the money if the entire economy crashes? They can't go to the banks. It's not the bank's fault. So it's just going to have to be inflation. And inflation technically
Starting point is 01:46:41 is just you're just redistributing that loss among people. So that means that basically a loaf of bread doesn't cost $5. It's costing $15 and $20. So people are hungry, people aren't buying real estate. There's a crash. People are being laid off. They don't work. Government has to come in. So, I mean, it could be the 2008. It could be worse.
Starting point is 01:47:02 I don't know. I'm not that guy. I'm not an actuary. I can't, you know, crunch the numbers. I'm not that smart. But I think ultimately it does happen. You know, I think what, to me, I even did a video on my channel about this.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Like, to me, what I would do? Because the guys ask me all the time, what would you do with real estate? If you wanted invest in real estate, what would you do? What would you do? Okay, well, what I do is, because you don't know if it's going to happen
Starting point is 01:47:24 in the next six. six months or it's going to happen the next year. What I would do is I'd buy as many single families as I could and I'd turn them into rooming houses. I'd take the living room, dining room and I turn it into a bedrooms. So I take a three bedroom, two bath or a three bedroom one bath and turn it into a five bedroom because the one thing that's going to happen is people are going to need to are cheap housing. You can put bunk beds in them. Listen, when people get hungry, things that they're saying right now, oh, I'd never live in a rooming house. Really? Well, when you're living on the street, you won't mind bunking up with.
Starting point is 01:47:55 another guy in a room as opposed to having to sleep on the curb. So the fact is that that's something you can buy right now. And it doesn't matter if you're buying at the top of the market because you're only buying them for cash flow. So it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't matter if you're $100,000 upside down. If your cash flow is a couple thousand dollars a month, what do I care if I'm upside down? I could be upside down $12 million if my cash flow at the end of the month,
Starting point is 01:48:20 if my positive is 20 grand a month, what do I care if I'm in debt or upside down 12 million? As long as I can maintain it and walk away with 10 or 20 grand a month, that's what I do. So I would be buying everything, every single, every shithole single family I could buy right now,
Starting point is 01:48:38 I'd buy it, turn the living room, dining room into a bedroom, and I'd rent them out as rooming houses. Obviously, there's certain areas you can't do it, you can't do it in a PUD, you can't do it in a deed-restricted community. I mean, you have to look into it a little bit. but it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:48:52 You can buy houses that nobody wants to live in right now because guess what? People that need to live someone somewhere will rent a room. People are renting rooms right now for $150 a month. I mean, I'm sorry, $150 a week.
Starting point is 01:49:05 God damn. They're renting rooms right now for $150 a week, easily. You can put an ad on Craigslist right now for a room for rent at $150 and within an hour, you'll get $15 to 20 calls. Guys, desperate to rent the room.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Because the truth is, is look, if you're a 40-year-old man and you're divorced with two kids, you have to pay your child support. You have to. There are all these things you cannot cut. I can't cut food. I have to eat. I can't cut making my car payment or making my insurance or my health insurance or paying my
Starting point is 01:49:36 my child support. What can I cut? My living expenses. That's the only thing I can cut. So guess what? I want to see my kids. I want to pay my child support. I want to be able to have health care.
Starting point is 01:49:46 I want to be able to have my car so I can go see my kids. I want to do all these things that I can't cut. So I'm willing to shack up in a room. I'm willing to shack up in a bunk. If you said, hey, I got a bunk bed you can rent in a room with three other guys. It's going to cost you $100 a week. You'd be shocked how many guys will say, I'll take it. And be thankful.
Starting point is 01:50:07 They'll be thankful to pay $100 a week because they don't have a choice. What's that going to be like in a year and a half from now? People will be desperate to get into those rooms. So that's the only thing that's a for sure thing right now. But there's no way you cannot continually pump money into an economy and expect that you're not going to have inflation and a crash. And there's all these economists out there that'll say, they'll all say it's coming. And then there are other economists that are saying, oh, no, it'll be fine, it'll be fine.
Starting point is 01:50:39 Well, what the hell do you guys know anyway? Everybody said everything was, you know, peaches and cream in 2007. And in 2008, it was like, oh, my God, this is horrible. Why didn't we see this coming? People never want to see what's right in front of them. They don't want to see what's bad. They always look on the bright side of it. And hey, Matt, one more question.
Starting point is 01:50:59 What about deflation? Do you think we're experiencing right now a deflation and the reason they're pumping money into it is to prevent the deflation? There's too much stuff out there so they need the purchasing power? Deflation? Or inflation? No, no. deflation.
Starting point is 01:51:18 I don't know anything about, I don't see any deflation that's happening right this minute. What do you mean? What are you basing that on? I don't know. What is deflation? No. It's when things are under value.
Starting point is 01:51:28 Basically, no, basically deflation is when you don't have the purchasing power, you have too much stuff stored in warehouses and people don't have money to buy it. So that way people go out of business because they don't sell their product. So that's basically the deflation, right, you know? Okay. You have the product, but nobody has the money to buy it. it. So then everybody's going out of business, no matter how cheap they try to sell it, nobody's going to have the power to buy because there's no money into the economy.
Starting point is 01:51:53 You feel like that's what's happening right now? I don't know. That's what I'm asking you. Do you think maybe that's the scenario of like the reason they're pumping so much money into it or whatever or I don't know? I have no idea. I mean, I think they're pumping money in the economy just because they're trying to keep everybody going right now and everybody's bills being paid and people, you know, eating. I mean, I think that's what they're... My question is, where does all these trillions
Starting point is 01:52:19 come from? Obviously, it's just, you know, the money is not... Obviously, they... I heard, you know what I heard the other day? I heard more money has been printed in the last four years than in the entire history of the United States.
Starting point is 01:52:35 I don't know. I don't know. But isn't that the causes, the houses are going up because the money are devaluing, So you got to pay more money for the same thing. You think the house is going up and value. But what's happening is the value of the dollar is going down. So you've got to put up with more dollars to buy the same thing.
Starting point is 01:52:53 You think, oh, my God, my house is half a million. I bought it with $300,000. But the inflation is so bad that you actually have to put up more money to buy the same thing. Isn't that the same concept over here? Well, I think that there's a lack of inventory on the market right now as far as houses are concerned because the banks are obviously, they're still lending money. and people are putting money into houses right now because they don't know what the future holds, but here's the nice thing about buying a house.
Starting point is 01:53:21 If you buy a house for $200,000, even if you're paying at top market, even if you're paying $40,000 more than the house was worth a year ago, the fact is you're buying a house with a fixed mortgage payment. So your payment's $1,500 a month. So whether the, whether if there's inflation and let's say, let's say, even if it doesn't matter if there's a crash and it doesn't matter, and it doesn't matter if the prices keep going up, you've got a fixed rate. So you have a fixed payment from here on out.
Starting point is 01:53:55 So people dump money into homes right now because they just don't know what the dollar's going to be worth in the future. But at least they'll have a home over their head with a fixed payment. So if the prices go up, they're good. If they go down, they're still good. because if you were to take $100,000, $100,000 might not be worth $100,000 in two years from now, or a year from now. But your house payment will remain the same. I don't know if that makes sense. I probably didn't explain that very well, but they're getting into a house.
Starting point is 01:54:27 And they're borrowing the money from the bank at almost nothing, two, three percent interest rates? And they're borrowing. Yeah, but let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. One second. Let me interrupt you one second. You see, that's the trick. That's how thing the trick is.
Starting point is 01:54:40 You see, the value of the house is going up, the interest is going down. Everybody said, oh, my God, I'm making a good deal. The interest is low, but the house is high. But isn't the same formula if I'm buying a house at $300,000 with 5% interest or I'm buying a house at half a million dollar house with a 2% interest? Isn't the same thing? But people think, oh, my God, I'm saving a lot of money, but I'm paying over the value of the house. But I got a little small interest rate.
Starting point is 01:55:04 Isn't it the same? I mean, it's similar. I think that your payment is. fixed and so if the if if prices keep going up at least your payment at least you're locked in at at the same payment and your money is invested in real estate so your money should be secure i mean i'm i you know i'm not exactly i don't know if i'm answering the question right i'm not sure if i if i'm even capable of answering the question after all match just a con man yeah No, no, I appreciate, man.
Starting point is 01:55:41 Listen, it's an honor to talk to you guys right now with Max Ritz and it's a real honor, you know. Hey, man. And that's the reason, yeah. Do you want to buy any artwork from Matt? No, he's trying to buy artwork from me. Listen, I'm on the phone right now, so I can not watch you guys on the stream. So we're going to have to probably hang up and I'll make, if I don't buy it, I'll promise I'll make a super chat donation over there for Matt, okay? All right, you got a deal.
Starting point is 01:56:06 All right, man, thanks for calls. Thank you, guys. Thanks for calling and thanks for watching, man. We appreciate you. There ain't no problem, man. Man, thank you so much. You're the best. I'm on the Jason.
Starting point is 01:56:18 All right. I'm on it. All right. Have a good one. See you. See you. You didn't like the Jason thing? I thought it reminded me of Nikki Minaj like sitting there with their ass hanging out.
Starting point is 01:56:29 But it was Jason, so it gave me a weird vibe. Bro, it's, it's going to be weird. No, it's going to be super cool. It's going to be real dark, dark, dark, dark. Like the whole thing's going to be dark. Why does everybody you draw like squatting? I'm just trying to get the whole, I'm trying to utilize a space as best as possible,
Starting point is 01:56:46 trying to get as much of the character in there. Okay. Plus what I want to put in there is I want to put, I want to put something about Jason being, you know, all about. Austin, call up the next guy. All about slaying. Let me see what you got. Who wants to buy this picture of Amadeo?
Starting point is 01:57:00 I think Max is a girl. Hey, everybody's saying call Boziac. We should call him. We should call him after this. Hello. Hey, what's up, man? Thanks for giving us your number. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 01:57:16 Is it concrete? This is concrete. Yeah. What's your name? Where are you from? Hey, what's up, guys? I guess my stream is a bit delayed because I'm not here in my... Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:25 There's about a 30-second delay. Okay. Turn your volume down on your YouTube. Yeah, yeah. Give me a sec. Yeah, I dig that. Yeah, what's up, man? That's weird.
Starting point is 01:57:37 I'm not put. Jason V. All right. There you go. All right. We got you. So what's up? Good, man.
Starting point is 01:57:43 Where are you located right now? I'm actually in Canada, in Montreal. In Montreal. Wow. Yeah, man. I'm just, you know, living the life up here, quarantine, like everybody else, trying to avoid that. Nobody locks their doors. They're all drinking syrup.
Starting point is 01:58:01 Do you, are you interested in any of Matt's artwork? We're trying to peddle some of Matt's art. Pays Bills. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I sent him an email a little earlier. I'd be willing to get, like, a custom piece done. I was wondering how much that would cost. Matt'll do it for you right now for $50.
Starting point is 01:58:19 He's simply a massive piece. He's saying like a scribble. Matt just drew a portrait of Frank Amadeo on a piece of, I think, honestly, I think these are more genuine because he does them live. They're live on the podcast. Yeah. Don't agree with him. I don't agree with them.
Starting point is 01:58:36 I don't know. I like it, Matt. I think that's cool. I fuck with that painting. Matt's like old school. You know, you know what? Matt, if you do something that's similar to that Maryland-Munreau poster that you did, but in a quick, you know, quick time, I'll give you $50 for it for sure.
Starting point is 01:58:54 Right now. Of what? What do you want? Maryland. He's saying Maryland. Send the 50s? I got a bunch of Maryland. Matt will do it right now live on the podcast and we'll sign it for you.
Starting point is 01:59:05 All you got to do is just PayPal and $50. Not Maryland. You know what? Making a self-portrait, Matt. Self-portrait. Fuck, yeah. With the perfect hair line. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:14 Hey, they're saying paint you in like a most wanted picture. Black and white. Black and white, self-portrait like Maryland for 50. Diculous. All right, he's doing it, bro. He's literally walking over to his stack of canvases right now. He's going to do it. This is good.
Starting point is 01:59:29 This is great. I had $2.5 million in a bank account one. Hey, do it where you're... I had six. I had 600,000 in cash one time. In cash. Now you're sitting in this dump with us. So Matt's starting the painting right now, brother.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Danny's mother's basement, and I'm fucking hoping to get somebody to send me 50 bucks. It's so sad. So do you have any words of wisdom for Matt? Do you have any advice for his love life? For his love life? Yeah, we need help. Yeah, Matt's having some issues right now. He just had a big breakup.
Starting point is 02:00:08 up and he's trying to find a new girlfriend. And he's having some issues because he's getting kicked off all the dating apps because he's a con, con man. I'm a felon. He's a felon. Well, you know what? I sympathize with Matt, man. I'm not a huge fan of the dating app.
Starting point is 02:00:22 No. How old are you? I don't find it. I don't know. I'm 30. Okay. Yeah, I've never used one of the dating apps either. I find in most cases, they just end up in really shallow connections.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Unless you get lucky, right? but if you want like a deep long-lasting relationship, I feel like the dating house is not really the place to be at. Matt, think, Matt, listen to this. I've been with my wife for 11 years. We met at a bar. At the bar? With him.
Starting point is 02:00:53 Yeah. She was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. But you didn't meet with an app, did you? No, we just met at the bar. She walked up to me. No, but two-thirds of marriages are from dating apps. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:09 Maybe in like 2020. Like the last five years. Yeah, recently. Yeah. I mean, I watched, I watched some of your recent videos, Matt. I think you had just released one. Is it today? I think I watched the one.
Starting point is 02:01:27 Yeah, people were hounding me. Yeah, yeah. I watched that one. Matt's suppressed, man. I don't know, man. I just keep pushing. You know what I mean? Like I watched a lot of your videos.
Starting point is 02:01:37 And I like the. fact that you're thinking of your time out of jail early, it's time that you could just use to do what you want, right? And just try to pursue your career and changing. And I think, you know, I'm only 30, but I think that life is short and you got to do what you want to do. So I honestly, I admire that. Like, instead of just going to a 9 to 5 and just going right back into the system,
Starting point is 02:02:00 you're trying to do your own thing and build your own business and do what you actually love. I mean, honestly, that's amazing. I, it only took me. I thought about that for about five years in prison, and that's what I came out with. Matt really took the bull by the horns. I mean, when we did that first podcast with him,
Starting point is 02:02:17 he took that opportunity and ran with it. He's done so, he's doing commercials now. He's been flown across to different countries. He's doing Netflix documentaries. I mean, it's me. It's incredible. I'm impressed with Matt Cox. Yeah, go for it all to Danny.
Starting point is 02:02:34 That's what Danny really is getting at. He's told me. He's told me. I'm just really impressed. He's just, he's being humbled. Many times we've been, I've been begging him and pay for a meal.
Starting point is 02:02:42 And he's like, fine. And then he's like, you know, you owe me like all this. Like everything that's gone right in your life is all. It's not because you put any effort into it all. It's all me.
Starting point is 02:02:52 You know that I'm like, yes, Danny. I thank you so much. Hey, by the way, I sent 20 bucks earlier with the super chat. And that was, uh,
Starting point is 02:02:58 oh, hell yeah, and that was for Matt. Do you hear I'm saying that was for Matt? I'll buy you dinner, Matt. Thank you. I appreciate. I appreciate you. I understand this show is all about the guest and people love the guests. We got lights to keep on here too, man. To keep these people like Matt coming in here for you guys to, you know, love.
Starting point is 02:03:19 Yeah, for sure, man. You guys got a great thing going. Every dollar helps. Yeah, it's my pleasure, man. I love supporting, you know, channels that have content that's more out there than what everybody else does. I like that you guys have no But there aren't a lot of them, so sometimes I watch concrete too. No, but you guys have no filter. You know what I mean? You're just like, it's almost just like a couple of guys like hanging out and just doing whatever,
Starting point is 02:03:46 and it's actually pretty cool. Thanks, man. I appreciate that. How long have you been watching our stuff? Not super long, but I've watched everything that you've done with Matt. Oh, awesome. A few other things. Like when you had that,
Starting point is 02:04:03 Scientologist guy. That was a really dope interview. Oh yeah. Which one? I forget the guy's name. We've had a few Scientologists guys. That's why I ask. But anyways, yeah, the Scientologist stuff. Rinder. Yeah, yeah, Mike Rinder. Yeah, that one was amazing. Yeah, he was interesting, dude.
Starting point is 02:04:22 Man, the guy's story is crazy. You really get to see, like, how insane Scientology is from the inside. Matt's dating a Scientologist right now. That's a lie. That's a lie. Yeah, I was hearing that before. a 10. And she's a 10. I mean, look, if it works, it works. But I just...
Starting point is 02:04:40 I don't know, man. The stuff that they do in there just seems like it's straight up brainwashing. It is. It's really fucked up. It's a prison of belief is what it is. Yeah, I mean, especially when your leader is just going around, like, you know, yelling at people and
Starting point is 02:04:57 you hear stories about him, just, like, beating the shit out of people who just do things that he doesn't like, you know, or get on his wrong side. Like, that's... That's kind of messed up, right? It's kind of the opposite what, like, a religious leader is really supposed to do. Yeah. No, it's, it's wild, man.
Starting point is 02:05:14 It's wild. What's his name? David Miscavage. He beat the shit out of Mike Rinder a few times, and Mike Render was his, like, number one executive in the Church of Scientology. And he kept him in this building with a bunch of other guys and would, like, punch him and kick him on the floor. He would, like, push him on the ground and kick the shit out of him. Yeah, it's wild. Yeah, the guy basically has played.
Starting point is 02:05:35 It's not followers. It's crazy. It is crazy, man. Well, cool. Matt's working on this picture right now. It's looking really good. He's just in like the beginning phases of it. But yeah, we appreciate you
Starting point is 02:05:51 commissioning Matt for this piece of artwork. And anything else you want to ask Matt personally? I think you lost them. You there? Yeah, yeah. Sorry, the line just cut. Oh, no, no, no. No, Matt's working on your piece right now.
Starting point is 02:06:09 I mean, yeah, you got a quick question for you, Matt. I mean, you know, you've been through a lot and, you know, you've gone to jail for a long time, too. Like, you've had a lot of time to kind of think shit through. I'm just wondering, like, what advice would you have for someone my age who's much younger? You know, just looking back at your life, like, what would you have done? Obviously, apart from the mortgage fraud and going to jail for 12 years, like, what would you do differently to kind of have a better life? like either mentally or just in terms of your job or, you know, your lifestyle. Don't look at me like I'm going to say something profound because I'm not waiting for it.
Starting point is 02:06:52 Because, I mean, honestly, and this is like horrible because like all of my advice when people ask me this and people ask me this all the time, believe it or not, for some reason they think I'm inspiring, which is something I've never gone for. Let me just give you a little bit of words of wisdom. Matt's a false profit, first of all. Yeah. So basically all, my only advice is the same advice. any father gives anybody. It's like the same shit your dad says. It's like, you know, I mean, you work hard, be patient. Don't try and keep up with the Jones. You know, I mean, it's, it's, it's, I mean, it doesn't, the thing is, you know how many times.
Starting point is 02:07:27 You can't keep up with Jones. You know what many times I, and I find myself doing this, Danny's going to mock me. But it, only because he knows deep down it's true. But I mean, I, I actually, Danny actually has a pretty good, like Danny could drive. he could drive a super nice flashy car he doesn't you know what I'm saying like like I noticed that danny puts his money where it's where it's smart and not where it's flashy to let everybody know hey look I'm a big shot and I find myself doing the same thing constantly where it's like I want to get a new nice car that I pull up in a really nice car and I think what are you doing bro you're going to put
Starting point is 02:08:05 money into a car that's going to depreciate like like I'm trying to reinvest into things that will make me I'm trying to not do things because it will impress other people. And that's the problem is that I think most people are trying to impress people that basically don't like them anyway. And they're not patient. They want things right away. They don't want to work for it. They don't want to save. And just in my opinion, that that's like a huge downfall is like, I have to get the bigger house.
Starting point is 02:08:34 I have to have the better car. I have to have. Why? What does it matter? I mean, why don't it get something that you can afford, save your money? money, be smart, be humble, be appreciative. Life is so fucking good out here, and people have no clue how good they have it. You could be a Jew in 1938, Germany.
Starting point is 02:08:57 You could be an African-American, African-American in the 18th century in New Orleans. You know, you could be, I mean, there are so many horrible, horrible situations. you could have been born into and the truth is life is amazing here and people just don't appreciate it and i mean that to me but to me that's like that's not words of wisdom that's just the same thing that your dad would tell you so i don't think i don't think that that's profound i think that that's just something something that i didn't believe it's like you know what reminds me it's like it's like it's like money can't buy happiness you know but everybody wants to find out for themselves so you know it's like but i've had money and i was never happy i was never
Starting point is 02:09:41 really happy. I didn't even realize how miserable I was outside, free, with tons of money until I had nothing and I was laying in a bed in prison where I realized how unhappy was. I was super happy in prison writing. Happier in prison writing than I am
Starting point is 02:09:57 right now because I'm now having to struggle to make bills, to do this, and I really don't have the time to write like I want to write. So it doesn't make sense, but the truth is, is if you gave me a million dollars, the only thing that million dollars would do was it'd give me time to start
Starting point is 02:10:15 writing, which is something I like to do. That's all the million dollars would do. It wouldn't change me. It wouldn't make me happy. It just give me a little bit more freedom. That's all it would do. That was moving. I'm touched. So I told you you'd mock me. Some people, they just can't help themselves. Yeah, that's honestly, that's amazing advice. So basically just, you know, do what you want to do and don't really care what other people think. essentially. Yeah. I mean, how I think about it like this too.
Starting point is 02:10:44 I mean, and you've already... Don't get sucked up into all the fake bullshit on YouTube and all the ads. You want to make more money on Amazon? I make a hundred grand a day on Amazon. Follow me at grant cardone.com and join my pyramid scheme. I mean,
Starting point is 02:10:59 all that shit's so fucking whack, bro. Yeah. Yeah, man, there's way too much of that shit. It's crazy. Like, everybody wants to get rich quick and not do anything. Everybody wants to be a guru.
Starting point is 02:11:10 Everyone thinks they have the answers and they want to sell you a course. Yeah. Just do what you want. No, I mean, do what makes you happy. Do what makes you happy. I mean, do what makes you happy and don't focus so much on making money because ultimately making money is not going to make you happy. Do it what you want.
Starting point is 02:11:28 Do what makes you happy and the money will come. I mean, in the end, if you're good at something, if you're the best at something, you're going to make money at it. But don't take a job because it pays a bunch of money. Don't do something just for the money. I would find something that you love to do and do that and stop worrying about keeping up. Most people take jobs because they want money to buy shit to impress people that fucking hate them. They don't like you anyway.
Starting point is 02:11:51 Everybody that I made, I stole all this money and bought a bunch of stuff to impress a bunch of people. And when I went to jail, nobody was there. You know who was there? My mother. It is nice, though, living in a nice house. Like, when you have a nice house with a pool and, like, big space and a big space. big yard. I mean, it's better than a cat.
Starting point is 02:12:13 It's better than living in a 500 square foot apartment. I will tell you that. But don't get, don't put the cart, uh, what's it called? The cart in front of the horse. Yeah. Yeah. Don't put the cart before the horse.
Starting point is 02:12:24 Don't do that. Take your time. You got time. Oh, how do you? I'm 30. Oh, bro, you can make three or four bad decisions and still come out on top. Yeah. You can be fine.
Starting point is 02:12:38 It's funny because you're, you're still going to be all right. advice really kind of hits me pretty hard because right now I have a job that I do like but you know it's a regular job you know it's like a nine to five and I mean it does pay it does pay really well but I'm at a point where like I get really bad tendonitis rate and like really bad when I work and I'm at the point where I'm just trying to decide whether I should quit my job and just focus on my health and just do something else that I I like. What's the job if you don't mind me asking?
Starting point is 02:13:13 I'm a financial planner. Tendinitis? Yeah, he's typing all day. Oh, your hands? Yeah, I've had really bad tendinitis over the years and it's kind of gone up, you know, in my neck and in my back. And anyways, it affects my quality of life a lot just to be at a computer all day working. So I'm at a point now where I'm trying to decide, you know, do I keep this job for the money or do I just do something else and, you know, try to do something where I can actually feel good physically.
Starting point is 02:13:44 Yeah, the advice kind of hits me pretty hard. Thanks for that. I think it applies. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, you can't. You can't. How's that painting coming?
Starting point is 02:13:54 It's coming good. Give me a sneak peek of what it looks like. Hell yeah. It's horrible. It's horrible. Quit your job. Put all your money in GameStop. It looks like the 12-year-old version of Matt Cox.
Starting point is 02:14:07 Well, it's like I can't see it yet on screen. right, it takes about 30 seconds. He's only got the outline done. Wait until he gets the shading done. It'll look way better. You want it black and white, right? Yeah, black and white. Okay.
Starting point is 02:14:19 Cool, man. Well, hey, we're going to call the next person. Thanks for calling. We got your send Matt the PayPal, so he has all your info. And he'll ship this to you with your address and everything. And thanks again for calling, bro. I appreciate it. Thanks for watching all the Matt Cox content.
Starting point is 02:14:37 Yeah, so where am I sending the money? Contact. Matthew.cox at Gmail. I'll post it in the chat again. He'll post it in the chat again. It's contact. dot Matthew. dot Cox at gmail.com. That's PayPal.
Starting point is 02:14:50 Okay. Sounds good. And that's his pay. All right, brother. Have a good night, man. Ciao. Call Boziak. Call Boziac.
Starting point is 02:15:02 What's his number? It's in Danny's phone. I'm sure you got it. It's his new number's not in my phone, actually. Matt, let me see your phone. real quick I gotta find I'm looking for it
Starting point is 02:15:21 I'm getting it for you I got it there you go don't say it let me just read it don't show the camera Matt's sausage fingers can't help but press every fucking
Starting point is 02:15:34 I'm not sure which one is it I'm not sure I'm gonna give some shout out somebody UMX studio sent 20 bucks somebody sent $11 said ask Cox to look up
Starting point is 02:15:51 Quadriga. How much? $111. Fuck. Quadrigga. It's quadriga. We'll look up quadriga for $11 $11. It's a chariot drawn by four
Starting point is 02:16:07 horses abreast. That's a lot of money. Does he want Matt to draw that for him? I don't know. Fucking, you better draw that for him for that much money. I'm a mate. The guy who... Yo, what's up, bro? What the fuck? fuck is going on.
Starting point is 02:16:24 What up? Not much. We wanted, they wanted us to call you live on the podcast because Matt's here, uh, Matt's here horn out some artwork for the people in the chat.
Starting point is 02:16:32 This is Boziak? Yeah, I've been watching. You're watching it? Yeah. Hell yeah. Do you, do you have any words of wisdom for us on the podcast today?
Starting point is 02:16:40 John Boziac? Matt, Matt, you motherfucker. What happened? I heard you talking shit on me. He was talking hell of shit on your name. What did I say?
Starting point is 02:16:50 No, he was. Because I heard, I heard him. You guys put him on. I caught it. I caught the beginning of the conversation. He was putting some major... I was saying that people were lies.
Starting point is 02:16:59 Like, you forget what you look like. When we went in that restaurant the other day, everybody's looking and people are nudging each other and pointing at you and shit. And I'm like, you don't realize he's completely tatted up. His head's tatted up. He walks up, he's like, yeah, I'd like the number four. And the woman in the counter, she looks like,
Starting point is 02:17:16 she's like ready to hit the fucking button. You guys didn't walk into the bank together, did you? Heck no. Okay, good. No, they would have called the police. Are you back in Arizona? I'm back in Phoenix, yeah. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:17:31 Yeah. How'd you enjoy your trip to Florida, man? We enjoyed you coming in here on the show, the podcast. Yeah, it was dope, man. I had a good time. I always have a good time when I come out. Your girl wasn't mad at us. Your girl wasn't too mad at us, was she for being in the couch?
Starting point is 02:17:47 No. No, she wasn't tripping, dude. That's funny. I wish I could have got to hang out and do some more painting. Yeah, that would have been cool. Did Matt walk you through, walk you through the basics of fine arts? Gave me the finer points, yeah. Yeah, it gave me the finer point.
Starting point is 02:18:10 Cool, bro. We were just fucking around. Well, the John Bozziak podcast is dropping this Sunday. Is that what we're doing Sunday? Yeah, it's dropping this Sunday at 11 a.m. For people who are looking forward to it. Tell how my order the book. My boxes, too.
Starting point is 02:18:26 I got my boxes. I ordered the boxes, by the way. Remember the boxes we were trying to order? Yeah. I ordered them. So, anyway. Was it from the company I actually had contacted? No, I never heard from them.
Starting point is 02:18:43 It was a company in Orlando. John, do you want to purchase a piece of artwork for Matt Cox to help pay his bills? You know, I have my own paintings. I'm trying to get kind of off to all of my subscribers as well. The answer is no. If anybody wants to go ahead and head on over to my YouTube channel. Oh, man. Everyone go, yeah, if you want an artwork from John Boziak and you're not really into Matt Cox,
Starting point is 02:19:19 John, what's your PayPal? Oh, yeah, it's just Jay Boziac or my cash app. So you can hit me in my cash app. I rate IR8T. Everything's on my YouTube channel. Just look in the description of my videos. I list all of my social medias and I list my cash app. Yeah, check them out.
Starting point is 02:19:40 John is the most prolific credit card scammer in the history of cybercrimes. So if you're into that kind of stuff, go send him some money on PayPal and he'll draw you a personal piece of artwork. Yeah, check out my art. It's all up on my YouTube channel if you guys want to check it out. And I just watch my videos. And if you like my shit, you know what to do. And also, I got a little bit of financial advice for your subscribers. All right, let's hear it.
Starting point is 02:20:15 Get out of crypto. Get out? What? What do you mean? It's almost hitting 60K. Crypto is going to fucking tank and people are going to lose everything. It's going to do like 1929, but it's going to be different. Why?
Starting point is 02:20:29 What, wait, wait, wait. Why are you saying this? It's a bubble, man. Danny doesn't want to hear it. He doesn't want to hear it. The bubble's going to pop. It's artificial. The price of Bitcoin is artificially inflated.
Starting point is 02:20:41 By who, Elon? Elon. Well, I mean, you know, Elon likes to watch. Elon likes to play with markets and watch shit go up and down every time he makes a fucking tweet or he may, you don't make the move. But what people don't realize is, you know, Bitcoin is, tied to the American dollar. The price of Bitcoin is based in U.S. dollars, is it not?
Starting point is 02:21:03 Am I just misunderstanding this whole thing? I mean, yeah, I mean, obviously there's a dollar, a U.S. amount attached to it, but what are you saying? How is it attached? How is it attached to U.S. dollars? Explain that. The U.S. dollar tank, which is going to, I mean, just ask Peter Schiff, watch anything that Peter Schiff has to say,
Starting point is 02:21:22 I mean, when the dollar tank, and when there's hyperinflation going on in the country, Bitcoin is going to be fucking worthless. Hmm. Time to sell. Absolutely worth it. What do you think about GameStop, GameStop, GME? We're up right now, baby.
Starting point is 02:21:42 Oh, man. I know, I know. It's a yo-yo. It's a yo-yo. It's fun to watch. It's fun to watch it. So should we buy or sell, should we buy or sell GameStop right now? Buy the dip.
Starting point is 02:21:53 You know what? Buy GameStop. You know what? GameStop to the moon right now. To the moon? GameStop to the moon. I'm on the GameStop train, man. Are you really?
Starting point is 02:22:03 How much money have you spent on GameStop? I'm about $1,100 in at this point. $1100. Yeah. Really? You think it's going to keep going up? Also, you know, it's going to keep going up. You know, real estate, real estate market is getting ready to take a shit, just as
Starting point is 02:22:19 as Matt was talking about earlier. And, you know, I think the only, you know, real tangible thing right now to be in is, is, is buy gold, buy silver, buy gold. No, I think buy real estate, too,
Starting point is 02:22:29 though. I mean, if you're looking to buy land, I mean, I would invest into, you know, go buy 10,000 acres or something,
Starting point is 02:22:38 but I think the, the real estate market is, it's the one, it's the one thing the government can't print more of. True. I mean, I would wait a year.
Starting point is 02:22:47 That's scoffing at me right now. He's in disgust. I would wait a year before I jump in the real estate market, because I think the next 12, 12 to 13 months are going to be extremely valuable. Yeah. You have to look at interest rates. I mean, we're at zero right now.
Starting point is 02:23:01 They're going up. Interest rates are going up. They just went up yesterday. What's about 2%. I don't know. This went up a little bit yesterday. I don't know what the exact number is. But they went up.
Starting point is 02:23:14 I heard they went up. You know, I mean, listen, you know, we're borrowing all this money from the Fed. The Fed just keeps, you know, cut and checks to the government. And then we just keep, you know, living off the backs of our children and our children's children. I mean, what's the national debt right now? I mean, how many fucking trillions of dollars is it in?
Starting point is 02:23:30 So many trillions. And county is, listen, there's so many bubbles right now, the safest place, if you're going to invest in anything, in my opinion, it's going to be gold. It's going to be silver and gold. I think crypto, I think, I think crypto is going to ruin a lot of people. But what do I know? What about light coin?
Starting point is 02:23:52 What about light coin? I don't know, man. I think I'm just not a firm believer in crypto. Like, I just don't, like, I understand the technology behind it, and I understand the hype around it, but I think it's going to be, I don't know, I just, it's not, it's not tangible. Yeah. Like, you can't hold it. You know what I mean? Like, and I can't take Bitcoin to public and buy groceries.
Starting point is 02:24:20 I can't take Bitcoin to the, to the mobile and put gas in my car. You can buy a Tesla with Bitcoin. It has to be exchanged for dollars. And we, and we know that, you know, you get 2% inflation a year. The Fed say, I think it's more like 5 or 6% a year. Bro, do you know how much Bitcoin, the federal government, confiscated from Ross Ulbricht? It was $500 million.
Starting point is 02:24:47 It was 69,000 Bitcoins. What is the math? Can you do the math for me real quick? 69,000 Bitcoins. Bitcoin, what is Bitcoin at right now? Like 57,000 or something? So like 57,000 times 69,000. It's something like 3 billion.
Starting point is 02:25:13 Yeah, it's like 3.9 billion. It's insane. All right, well, thanks for... Thanks for calling in, bro. Go ahead. Thanks for your words of wisdom. We're going to call some more people. Subscribe to my YouTube channel, Bozziat Conundrum.
Starting point is 02:25:32 Follow me at Instagram at Slimby Nature. I appreciate y'all. Thanks for fucking with me. Hell yeah, bro. Thank you. All right. Later. Matt, how's that looking? That's coming along. Wow. That's pretty damn good.
Starting point is 02:25:50 That's beautiful. Yeah, yeah. We're ready. All right, we got a couple more calls, and then we're going to wrap this thing up. We've been on here for, like, almost three hours. Three hours? We've got to call that one person Max from the UK. Call Max. They sent it to Danny's email. That's the guy just called.
Starting point is 02:26:13 No, that wasn't it. Hello? Hello. Hey, hi. Hey, baby. What's going on? Hi. I'm doing great.
Starting point is 02:26:23 How are you all doing? How are you doing especially in the pandemic? We're doing, we're doing wonderful. There is no pandemic in Florida. We're in Florida. We're a hardy stock. That's the way to look at it. Yeah, happy to hear that.
Starting point is 02:26:38 Who are you? What's your name and where are you from? So I'm Deja and I'm from the U.S. Virgin Islands. Have any of you ever been there? I actually have been to the U.S. Virgin Islands. Your name's Deja? Yeah, Deja, just like Deja Vu.
Starting point is 02:26:55 Wow, interesting. That's a good strip club here. Yeah. So for the person who has been the Virgin Islands, how was that like? Did you enjoy the beaches? Yeah, I love the Virgin Islands. I was actually there. I was actually in the Virgin Islands for a Bill fishing tournament.
Starting point is 02:27:10 It was for a Marlon fishing tournament. And I stayed on some guy's boat, and we were like right, we were in one of the Marines. is there in St. Thomas, I believe it was. Yeah, St. Thomas. Yeah, we were in St. Thomas. So we did a little bit of diving. We did a little bit of fishing and a lot of drinking. And it's kind of, my memory is kind of blurry, honestly.
Starting point is 02:27:34 It sounds like you did a lot of drinking. Yeah, we did quite a bit of drinking. Wow, that's great. So what makes you call in to talk to Matt Cox today? So I called in because I actually got a call and I just wanted to know if you had any advice on how to make a little extra catch right now. Yeah, we can think of a lot of ways. Deja. Hey, wait, wait, wait, deja, deja, deja, deja, deja.
Starting point is 02:28:07 Would you be willing to come to Florida and go on a date with Matt Cox? Yeah, Matt. Matt's on the month. I can already tell the answer. I will pay. I will pay for your plane ticket. Ooh. Wow.
Starting point is 02:28:24 So I am willing to come to Florida and spend time with you all. What type of state? Because I am not single. I'm currently taken. Oh, she's taken. That's not going to work too well. Yeah. Matt's looking for, you know, Matt's looking for a single woman.
Starting point is 02:28:43 Then that wouldn't be me. But I'm sure he's going to find a really great person. First, let me ask you this. do you have any did you hear any of matt's talking about his love life and his recent breakup and all the all the online dating apps he's been striking out on i haven't but um if you give me a quick rundown that'd be great the quick rundown is matt's matt's girlfriend of almost two years just broke up with him a little over a year a little over a year she just broke up with him she said basically she loves him she loves him She loves spending time with him or whatever, but she's afraid of committing to him long term
Starting point is 02:29:19 because Matt wants like a long-term relationship. He wants to settle down, have, you know, maybe have kids, blah, blah, blah, blah. This girl's never said that. Matt's fifth kids? We stop, stop bad living. Matt's 51. She's 34 and she broke up with him,
Starting point is 02:29:36 but she still wants to like talk to him and text him and hang out with him and be friends. But she doesn't want to like tie the knot with him. She just wants to keep doing what she's doing while she's in school, blah, blah, blah, blah. She just wants to hang out with him, but she doesn't want to, like, be with him and commit to, like, a long-term thing with him. She wants no commitment. Exactly. So, all the fun, but no commitment.
Starting point is 02:29:58 Exactly. Yeah. So Matt's on all the dating apps, and he can't find a girl to take him seriously, not taking him seriously, but he can't find a girl to. I also haven't, you're making it sound desperate. I also haven't looked extremely hard. I've been kicked off several dating habits. Habits? Apps.
Starting point is 02:30:15 Apps. Because I'm a felon. And I haven't really made an attempt, be, you know, that much of attempt. But I'm going to. It's been a month. I'm fragile. He's fragile. Stop.
Starting point is 02:30:29 Let me tell you how it really is, Deja, okay? So he's been on a couple dates, blind dates, on these dating apps, whatever. And the girls are like, oh, we have great chemistry. You know, I love talking to you, whatever. But we're just going to be friends. Because whatever, because he's too, he thinks it's because either A, it's because he's a felon, ex-con, ex-felon, or B, he thinks he's too short. Is he too short to pick up women? So he thinks of something like physical, like, oh, he's too short?
Starting point is 02:31:01 Or it's because it's, I don't think it's because of the, I don't, honestly, I think it, I doubt it's because of the prison sentence, because of the ex-felon. Because a lot of people are ex-felons. It's because you did a couple years in prison for a fraud. That's not that big of a deal. But how tall are you, Matt? You're five. I'm five, six. He's five, six.
Starting point is 02:31:20 How tall is your boyfriend? That's funny. Deja? Oh, yeah. My boyfriend, he's six three. He's a goddamn giant. Hang up on her. Don't hang up on her.
Starting point is 02:31:38 Do not. Well, I'm pretty tall myself, so it kind of makes me feel a little shorter. How tall are you? How tall are you? She's five seven. about 5-8 yeah hang up on her don't know do not hang up on Deja how long have you lived in the Virgin Islands for
Starting point is 02:31:54 um I'd say my entire childhood so until I was 18 um and then I left where'd you go to PA for college so I wanted to pursue engineering specifically chemical engineering and didn't quite have the focus and the level of research that I wanted to do back home.
Starting point is 02:32:20 So I figured, you know, time to travel. Okay. What college in Pennsylvania? Villanova. Are you a great and really good at basketball? Are you a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers? I am. I spent some time in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 02:32:40 And I have family in Pittsburgh. So, yeah, black and yellow all the way. Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. We're coming to the Virgin Islands to party with Daisy. Do you know I beat Juju Smith-Sister in a game of Madden? Did you? What? Smoked his ass.
Starting point is 02:32:57 Proof it. Sounds pretty interesting. It's on one of the videos on the channel. So anyways, all right, go ahead. I ask whatever question you have for Matt Cox, shoot. Didn't have any for me. Yeah, she does. Matt, it sounds like you're a really great guy, someone that's really fun to be around.
Starting point is 02:33:14 And, you know, this person that you're seeing, they're lost that they don't want that commitment. sometimes people are afraid of holding on to a good thing as weird as that sounds. And I know online dating can probably be really tough. I personally met my boyfriend through online dating. So if it's a testament that it can work, it, you know, take me, for example. But I would say, you know, really try to find someone that you can communicate well with someone that you can have a lot of fun with and play with. And once you find that person, then those conversations of whether this is something short-term or long-term maybe you can have earlier on and really all the best. Deja, do you think his ex-girlfriend's thinking like she's thinking like bird in the hand versus two in the bush type thing?
Starting point is 02:34:12 Can you say that again? Is she thinking? Is she like have the mentality like a bird in the hand is worth, is not? knot worth two in the bush. Like she's thinking that maybe there's one out there better she can find so she doesn't want to she doesn't want to tie the knot with Matt. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I was thinking to.
Starting point is 02:34:30 I think, I think exactly. That's well said. You know, um, it's better to kind of have you around and have someone to chat with, but not have that commitment. Right.
Starting point is 02:34:41 Right. Right. She wants, what do you think she's really looking for? What do you think her mindset is? She wants her cake and she wants to eat it too. Exactly. And that's not really fair to Matt.
Starting point is 02:34:53 It's not. It's not fair. Setting boundaries and kind of saying, you know, this is what I define for a long-term relationship. If you want that great. If not, then I can't give you what this relationship is. She wants to maintain her emotional connection and her great relationship she has with Matt. At the same time, she's going to college. And she wants to scout as much young.
Starting point is 02:35:21 because she possibly can while she's still in college. Well, say. She likes women, too. And she used to have a girlfriend, which is crazy. Yeah, let's not do that. That'll just piss me off. We don't want to piss Matt off. I think she really needs to understand what she wants,
Starting point is 02:35:43 and she definitely wants more. You want her cake and wants it to, and, you know, maybe, just separating and having some time apart. Yeah. Well, Deja, thank you so much. I appreciate your insight. I'm so glad we had a girl. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 02:36:06 It's so rare that we have a girl. Do you have any questions for Matt that he can help you with? Yeah. So, Matt, you said that you're an ex-convite, and I think that just going through that process, you'd have a lot of insight.
Starting point is 02:36:21 And what do you think is the biggest thing that you've gained or biggest change in perspective over the last couple years? And that's a really big question. I don't understand the question. What's the biggest? I think what she's asking you is what was the biggest thing you learned from your time before prison, in prison, and after prison. What was your biggest takeaway as far as perspective goes?
Starting point is 02:36:51 And as far as your outlook on life? I mean, it's the same thing. It's a dad answer. It's money can't buy happiness. Talking to the mic, Matt. It's money can't buy happiness. It's the same thing you already know. It's money can't buy happiness and find something you like to do and do that thing.
Starting point is 02:37:12 And stop trying to keep it. This is the same thing that your father would tell you. What do you do for a living, Deja? I make candy for a living. So I'm a chemical engineer at a candy. company. I won't see which company, but that's what I do. So you can think of me as a Lily Wonka engineer.
Starting point is 02:37:33 What kind of candy? What do you put in that candy? Virgin Islands finest? I think that's a little yeah, secrets of the Virgin Islands. We sprinkle in tropical paradise. Wow. And in breeze of sunshine.
Starting point is 02:37:48 You're a chemical engineer. But thanks for sharing your perspective, Matt. Wait, wait, wait. I want to hear more about this candy stuff. What's the name of the candy? The candy stuff. Send some candy. It's a pretty big candy company.
Starting point is 02:38:06 It's a global company. Where's it based? Where's it based? In Chicago. He doesn't have a problem. In Chicago. Danny will get you fired. Candy won't get me fired.
Starting point is 02:38:18 I don't get you fired. I don't know if I can quite say the name. You can't say the name. So they don't do marijuana candy? No. But marijuana is now legal in New Jersey. so I'm expecting to see a lot of candy
Starting point is 02:38:34 with meat in it. Are you going to stay in the Virgin Islands forever? Are you going to ever move back to the continental United States? I'm actually still in the U.S., but my goal would be to eventually retire in the Virgin Islands. Something about the culture, music, and hospitality back home will always be in my heart, so that's where I want to be. when I retired.
Starting point is 02:39:03 Well, thank you for calling in and sharing your story. We appreciate you, Deja, and thank you. Thank you for watching. Thank you for having me. You have a great podcast, and I hope you have a great rest of your day. You too.
Starting point is 02:39:19 Have a great night. Bye. She was great. What a great fucking caller. Deja sounds finer than frog hair. Yeah, Dana. Deja sounds hot. She got a boyfriend.
Starting point is 02:39:34 and her boyfriend's taller than you are. No, we're on par. Six three? Six three? Oh, okay. Hey, somebody, David L donated 50 bucks that I want Matt to tell me in detail about the loans he got from Pinnacle Bank. Pinnacle Bank. 50 bucks.
Starting point is 02:39:51 Pinnacle Bank. Yeah. This guy, this guy, this guy knows something. He said details. Oh, shit. I've never heard you talk about Pinnacle Bank. Oh, listen. Yeah, I don't remember hearing about it.
Starting point is 02:40:03 How does this guy know about this? So much fraud through Pinnacle Bank. And specifically, specifically, Amy, Amy Early. Amy Early. Was the account executive. Oh, shit. Now married, going by a different name, but she's, she is following me on Facebook.
Starting point is 02:40:23 So I see her, her every once in while. So she sees your stuff? She sees my stuff. You think it's her? Oh, I know it's her. Oh, shit. But yeah, she, oh. we did a ton of fraud on Tenicle Bank.
Starting point is 02:40:37 Oh, my God. How much fraud? Like, what do you think? Million, two million, three million. Oh, no. Ten. Ten million? Fifteen million.
Starting point is 02:40:44 Ooh. That's what I'm talking about. It was Pinnacle Bank Corp, and it was owned up to Pinnacle. It was owned by a guy named Gary Vaughn. I remember it because it was, it sounded very close to bond. Vaugh. And I used to a joke all the time, Vaugh. Gary Vaughn.
Starting point is 02:41:03 So, yeah, man, listen, they caught us on over and over again committing fraud, too. Really? Right. Right. Gary caught us one time. One time we got caught with like, it was like, there was a couple, several million dollars, and they'd already sold a few million dollars to household bank. And then they caught us with like a million dollars in fraud, and they sold it.
Starting point is 02:41:29 They knew it was fraud, and they sold it to household bank again. Another one. What? That was like the industry. They called up. He was a little threatening when he realized that I was like, look, I can't cut you a check for the money that you thought you call it. So I don't know if you're expecting. I'm going to cut you a check for like a million dollars.
Starting point is 02:41:46 You're wrong. That's not going to happen. Yeah. And he was like, no, but you know, we're going to go ahead and put this in a package that we're selling. So if it comes back on us, though, you have to agree you'll help me get rid of any loans that come back on us. Of course. Of course. Sure.
Starting point is 02:42:04 What am I going to say? Yeah, no. Oh, yeah, no. No, you're a hit. Call the FBI. Fuck you. Of course. I'm going to.
Starting point is 02:42:11 Of course, Gary, you can rely on me. Of course. I'm trustworthy. And Amy would always run interference. She would call you up and be like, listen, this is what they just found out. This is what they know. I don't know what you're going to say, but this is what they know. And I'd be like, okay.
Starting point is 02:42:25 And then the phone would ring, like, five minutes later, the phone would ring. Boom. I'd be like, yeah, what's it? And I'd already have a story completely ready. What? Oh, absolutely. Like, if I didn't know beforehand, you don't know what to say. You're fucked.
Starting point is 02:42:37 Yeah, you had to drop. They asked, did she go to prison to? Amy? No, no. She got to know. When Pinnacle eventually went under, I like to think by no fault of mine. I don't know that's true, though. I'm sure you were a part of that.
Starting point is 02:42:53 When they eventually went under, she just got a job working for Citibank. You know, Citib Group, Citibank. Oh, yeah, reputable bank. And yeah, she went to work for them. God, there was a chick that worked there named Nash. What was her name? We all went to dinner a few times. Anyway, yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:16 But in detail, my God, bro, we had canceled checks. We had fake pay stubs. Fake. I mean, there was so much fraud that we put through. And we knew all the underwriters. They would come down. They'd take us to like. they literally when they, after Gary caught us with a couple million dollars in fraud,
Starting point is 02:43:35 a week later he flew down and took me and three of the brokers out to, uh, out to dinner. And said what? He actually said during that meeting, he got drunk and he actually said, um, oh, I was just thinking of something I can't even say. Say it. No, no, I can't say. It was not, it's not Amy. Anyway, um, because I always liked Amy.
Starting point is 02:43:57 I was kind of had a crush on Amy. You did? Yeah. Maybe she's available now. Yeah. She's not. She's not. Okay.
Starting point is 02:44:02 She's married. So Gary got drunk, and I remember Gary, we were talking about fraud, and Gary said, to be honest, he goes, I don't care how much fraud goes through that company. He goes, as long as it doesn't come back on us, he says, as long as it goes through our underwriting department and they don't catch it. He goes, and it doesn't come back on us. He goes, if it does go into foreclosure, he goes, I don't care how much fraud goes through that place. We know fraud's going through the place. He told me one time he caught a guy with fraud. He caught a guy with like a $250,000 fraud.
Starting point is 02:44:33 Like literally they'd funded the loan. And like when they went to go sell it to their secondary investor, the secondary investor caught the, it was fraud. Like it was blatant. It was like W2's pay stubs. Like the phone number that verified the guy's employment, like literally like went to the owner of the company. I mean, so he called him up.
Starting point is 02:44:53 He's like, oh, I had him. He was done. I told him I was going to call the FBI, this and that. Gary said, look, we have to pay. X amount of dollars to maintain that loan until we can sell it. Now, you're saying, now we can't sell it, so it's stuck on our books. And we have to pay a fee the longer it stays on there. Here's what the fee is.
Starting point is 02:45:13 So he said he came up with some ridiculous fucking like $5,000 or $6,000 a month. He was this guy had paid this like $5,000 a month for like four or five months. And really the money was just going into Gary's just taking $5,000, $5,000, $5,000. And he said, I don't care if he pays that fee forever. He said eventually He said the guy was paying it Till eventually the guy They sold the house
Starting point is 02:45:33 Or refinanced the house He said oh he's up to like $20,000 $25,000 at this point He was laughing about it I mean he was drunk And we were like I was thinking this guy It's fictious
Starting point is 02:45:43 Wow Whatever happened to that guy I mean his company went under Yeah I'm sure he turned around And opened up another company What was his name? Gary Vaughn
Starting point is 02:45:52 Gary Vaughn Somebody in the chat Find out what the fuck Gary Vaughan Yeah, for real. We need him on the podcast. We need him on the fucking podcast. I bet he's got some stories. Gary Vaughn is now the CEO of Citibank.
Starting point is 02:46:05 Where the hell is Gary Vaughn? Somebody find Gary Vaughn for us. Please. How's the painting going, man? It's looking really good. Call one more person and we'll end this thing. I'm not thrilled. I'm not thrilled with it.
Starting point is 02:46:20 Oh, yeah. It's all right. This is my. It's all right. I guess. That's great. Look at it. Who else can we call?
Starting point is 02:46:27 Can we call Armadale? No, he's never going to answer the phone. No, he won't. No, you wouldn't. What if he did answer, though? Yeah, what is? Should at least try? I mean, you certainly can try.
Starting point is 02:46:36 You should try. What's his number? Let me get it. I mean, I'm not supposed to be talking to him, but you could, I'm sure. Well, we could talk to him. Sure, you could. I don't have a phone number. Oh, you know, a phone number?
Starting point is 02:46:45 Oh, I can't call them. Who else? Cool, could we call? Call somebody in the chat. Awesome, just pick someone. Is anybody else? We're right to end this podcast any minute now. So, only one person has.
Starting point is 02:47:01 Only one person has purchased a painting. That's upsetting. Unreal. I haven't checked either. Pretty sure. The first podcast we did it with the first art auction, Matt sold like at least $4,000 for the paintings. Keep saying that.
Starting point is 02:47:16 It wasn't that much. Yeah, that's it. I sold, got one paint. Oh, never mind. He refunded it. No. Oh. He funded it.
Starting point is 02:47:28 You got more? I got another painting was obviously. Who. Somebody else sent. Um Somebody else sent 300 bucks Wow who Hugh
Starting point is 02:47:41 Hugh sent 300 bucks Hugh What I don't know for what though The 300 It's supposed to be Yeah you give him a painting for 300 I mean obviously
Starting point is 02:47:50 He sent too much money I'm okay with I'm always okay with that Of course Max says she sent her number To your email Like 10 times Is it a girl?
Starting point is 02:48:00 Yeah That asked for the fucking Elmadeo painting You call him No, I don't have that number. It's in your... Have you checked your email? He's got to check his email.
Starting point is 02:48:13 She requested the Amadeo painting. And she's in the UK. She said it's like 4 a.m., hurry up. Hello? Hey, what's up, bro? How are you doing? I'm good. How are you guys?
Starting point is 02:48:25 Good, man. Who's this? This is Isaiah from Texas. Isaiah from Texas. Isaiah Mullins? No, no. Oh, okay. How you doing, man?
Starting point is 02:48:37 You've been watching the stream? Yeah, I've been watching for, I think, a year now at least. I kind of listened to Matt Cox's podcast on the way to work. Hell yeah, man. Do you got any advice, any words of wisdom for Matt Cox in his current situation in his love life? I'm 18, I'm only 18, so I don't have any words of wisdom in that sense. but I did have a question for him.
Starting point is 02:49:08 Go ahead. So Matt, do you have any experience with crypto NFTs? No. You know what? Does Matt Cox even know what NFTs are? I know. Non-fundgible tokens. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:49:24 I think he should actually look into that with his art. I think that could be something pretty lucrative. Oh, I've had probably four, probably three digital. I've had like three guys ask me to do paintings with Bitcoin, like of Bitcoin type. No, no. NFTs are completely different. Okay, I don't know. NFTs are like digital baseball cards. I have no idea with that.
Starting point is 02:49:51 Yeah, so you could make a painting and tokenize it and say, you could do 10, you could mint 10 of them, meaning you could create 10 of them as a maximum supply. and do drops on your channel or whatever, and people can transact them, and you'll even have a 10% royalty for every time someone buys and sells it after that. Bro, I'm telling you, NFTs are the next big thing. Yeah, they are. It sounds like it's just make believe.
Starting point is 02:50:20 It is not. It totally is. Everyone's talking about it right now. It's like all the hype. People are making a lot of money. NFTs, bro. Yeah. Like a video clip.
Starting point is 02:50:29 Like a video clip of like a sports highlight of like LeBron doing a fucking reverse dumb. or something? You do understand I can barely use my iPhone, right? Yeah, they can do gifts and... No idea. Like, I don't know half the functions on Instagram. I just figured out how to post stories. So, what's your
Starting point is 02:50:46 name again, bro? Isaiah. Isaiah, would you be willing to, like, give Matt a crash course on NFTs and explain to him how he can do this with his paintings? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 02:51:00 Definitely. I've been doing, I've been doing all kinds of crypto stuff for like three years. and also that, I forgot his name, but whoever else came in on the phone and was saying stuff about how to get out of crypto. Boziak. I could tell that that didn't really sit right with you either. Do you have anything to say about it? I don't know fucking shit about it.
Starting point is 02:51:20 All I know is... He's got money in it. I have, I own some Bitcoin, and the price is, like, going through the roof. I wish I would have bought more when it went down to, like, the low 40s a couple weeks ago. Yeah. But a close friend of mine who's actually really big into Bitcoin, and he does a lot of, he runs a lot of like meetups in Atlanta with, he's really versed in Bitcoin. He's telling me to buy light coin right now.
Starting point is 02:51:50 Yeah, it's extremely undervalued. But just crypto in general, all the things the other dude was saying, he was basically stating things that were actually the opposite of what his, conclusion was. So him saying all the inflation that's going on with the US dollar, that's actually good for Bitcoin. When this next round of stimulus comes out, you will actually see an increase in the price of Bitcoin because that money that they are inflating our circulation with is encouraging investors to put their money in something that isn't losing value, something like Bitcoin or gold or silver. Or real estate. So that same analysis he was saying actually applies to the opposite conclusion. Wait, wait, wait, he was
Starting point is 02:52:35 basically, he was saying Bitcoin is tied to the U.S. dollar. He was saying that when the economy crashes inevitably in the next year or so, he's saying that Bitcoin will also crash. Yeah, Bitcoin, it is in a bubble, but it is not, it is still
Starting point is 02:52:53 going to grow for probably until the end of this year. I'm saying somewhere between 200 and 400K. That's where it'll top out. God damn. 200 and what? Until then. Somewhere between 200 and 400,000 is probably where it will top out.
Starting point is 02:53:11 Wow. It's only at like, it's below 60. It's like right around like, it's almost 60,000 now, right? Yeah. Yeah. Actually, even the next month, it will probably hit somewhere between 70K, something like that. Wow. But yeah, like coin is a good investment as well.
Starting point is 02:53:32 Yeah, light coins. undervalued. Yeah, not necessarily the price, but the ratio between its last all-time high and now, it's pretty undervalued. Okay. How much money do you have in cryptocurrency? Like I said, I'm only 18.
Starting point is 02:53:51 I started it like a few years ago. I've probably made somewhere between 200K and 300K. Woo-hoo. Wow. Jesus. That's a shitload of money. Yeah. Yeah, I'm basically day trader as well
Starting point is 02:54:07 You're a day trader as well? Yeah What do you think about GameStop? Well, about what happened already? No, what's going to the future? The future. I mean, I don't really, I don't, like the whole thing with Dogecoin and GameStop
Starting point is 02:54:28 and all the short squeeze and whatnot, I basically stay as far away from that as possible because, I mean, what goes up that quick has to come down. And I mean, that's exactly what happened. But in the future, I'm sure, I don't know, like, it's not really my zone. I'm not with the hype trains. I like to pick on things that are neglected or are really, I don't know, undervalued. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:59 So I don't really know what happens. What should we buy right now? Hold on. Let me give you something. In terms of crypto? crypto or any kind of stocks what brokers do you guys use I don't invest
Starting point is 02:55:22 on fidelity I don't invest yeah fidelity there you go I don't date you only got like three options I don't pick stocks but Shane does You guys have coin base or anything Yeah I have a I have Coinbase
Starting point is 02:55:37 And I have another wallet another crypto wallet I forget what it's called Okay Coinbase you got a decent selection I'd say, well, what time frame? Are you talking short term? I can give you something that's in the next month you'll double your money. What's that?
Starting point is 02:55:57 There's something called OXT, which is a privacy coin to VPN service, crypto. OXT? You know, Edward Snowden? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, OXT, it's on Coinbase. Yeah, I think sometime this month, maybe in 10, 15 days, they're having an event. and actually seen that announced OXD as it's one of the top five innovations. And like on par with like the COVID vaccine and like the Apple M1 chip, all these things.
Starting point is 02:56:29 Like it's a pretty, it's a really low market cap undervalued and I've got a pretty big, pretty big bag in it. What's in it? What's it cost right now? Sorry what? What's it costing right now? I think it's 61 cents right now. Oh, fuck. Let's go. That's a price I like Look at that
Starting point is 02:56:51 OXT Okay I'm buying some tonight So you gotta get coin base though You don't have any crypto wallets yet Well download it tonight You gotta upload your ID Yeah for long term
Starting point is 02:57:07 Lightcoin's good Dash is good Ethereum obviously I think that's one might That's my second biggest holding Ethereum Okay So you're holding on to your Bitcoin You're not selling it
Starting point is 02:57:17 no i'm i'm holding it till probably December or November that area I mean I do technical analysis so that's not like a set date where I'm waiting I'm waiting for my indicators to tell me what to do okay all right shoot me an email bro I gotta go to the next caller but shoot me an email I want to talk to you more about this stuff danielconcrete dot com
Starting point is 02:57:38 okay all right all right thanks for calling man thank you guys yeah thanks Isaiah bye bye all right Fucking 18 years old. Oh, he made $200,000 already. Austin called Max. The dream come true.
Starting point is 02:57:53 Are you kidding me? Ridiculous. Max, we're calling you right now in the UK. There's how many hours of front of us? It's not a girl, too. He said he's a bloke. He's a bloke. I wish it was a girl.
Starting point is 02:58:04 Girls are more fun to talk to. Dajia was fine. Dajia was fun to talk to. Send some picks. Oy, oi. Oh, mate. What are you doing, bloke? Hello, is that the concrete people?
Starting point is 02:58:19 Yes, this is the concrete podcast. How many, how much, how much quid are you willing to give up for a portrait from Matt Cox? You requested the Amadeo painting? Well, I've only got like 10 quid in your bank account. 10 quid? Yeah. It's not fine anything. That's like, I got, I already, somebody already sent me money.
Starting point is 02:58:41 You already bought the Amadeo? No, somebody else sent me money. No, no, no. I just thought it was a good idea. It was a great idea. I already got money for it. How much you get for it? 300 bucks.
Starting point is 02:58:53 300 bucks? Matt, let's go. 300 bucks? How much quid is 300 bucks? Well, probably about 250 pounds. Wow. I don't like saying pounds.
Starting point is 02:59:07 Like saying quid. Quinn sounds like you don't give a fuck. Well, you're not a quid. 250 quid. Yeah. What time is it over there? It's 16 minutes past 4 in the morning
Starting point is 02:59:22 4 in the morning What are you up? Max, what the fuck are you doing up at 4 a.m.? What are you doing? I can't sleep. He's watching Matt Cox. Are you on the uppers right now? No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:59:38 Other than the natural uppers is having bipolar disorder. You're bipolar? Yeah, well, Yeah, although I'm not mad like the emperor. Like the emperor. Nice. He likes the emperor.
Starting point is 02:59:52 He called him the emperor in the chat of the watch. I love it. Well, people in prison call him the emperor. Emperor, he'd go. I've got a couple of business ideas for Matt. So he can have to support it. All right. Well, Max, before you give us the business ideas,
Starting point is 03:00:07 we want some relationship advice for Matt Cox. Oh, God, he doesn't want to come to me for that. Why not? I mean, same reason. Because I'm terrible with that. How's your love life, Max? Not very good.
Starting point is 03:00:21 Not very good. No, nonexistent. I'm with you. How come so many of our, how much, how come so much of our audience is from the UK? Is it because of Sean Atwood? Is that why?
Starting point is 03:00:34 No, I don't know, really. I mean, I got into watching your show through watching your interviews and Matt. I like listening to the two grand. stories I think that's fascinating. The true crime's good. Everybody loves some true crime, don't they?
Starting point is 03:00:52 Yeah. Women love it. Did you want to hear these business ideas? Yeah, yeah. Hit us with the business ideas. Let's go. Right. For the first one is, you start selling some really
Starting point is 03:01:04 cheap wallet that have your signature, employees are on the fact to the fake social security card, Gary Sullivan on the inside. And you market them as Matt Cox is prison wallet.
Starting point is 03:01:19 Yes. Yeah. I like this. Max, I'm going to make those and I'll give Matt a cut of them profits. You know, in prison, guys, they have a, in Coleman, they have leather shop,
Starting point is 03:01:34 right? So it's, you can buy leather and make, you can make purses and wallets. So you could actually have inmates make the wall. They're actually, they're technically, they're not allowed to sell wallet. It's like they give them, oh, I made this for my sister, and they mail it to their sister.
Starting point is 03:01:51 And then they, but they'll make, they'll make super nice wallets. And they'll embroider, what is it, embroider them and everything? Yeah, so you could, you could have the inmates make the wallets. That's cool as hell. And sell them. With Gary Sullivan. Yeah, that'd be so awesome. What's the next one, Matt?
Starting point is 03:02:08 Thanks, Gary Sullivan. The other right here, the other idea, right? just following on from the Frank Amadale's is that you record Frank rambling and then you put them to music and release them as well as spoken word album
Starting point is 03:02:26 so his message wouldn't reach the masses easier I like that but I actually tried to get him I tried to get him to write a book called what is it Capital Genesis, which is his business or his
Starting point is 03:02:45 How to Take Over the World idea. Like I was like, write... Right. I asked him to write a book. Like, like, write, let's write this down. Let's actually make a... You could be 100 pages. You could sell that book. And he just, he can't...
Starting point is 03:03:00 He couldn't focus long enough to actually get it done. And he writes like... It's just way... It's just over the top. It's just over the top. Like, he couldn't do it. And I was trying... I couldn't talk to him directly. I was working between me and somebody else trying to get messages,
Starting point is 03:03:14 and it just became a nightmare. But I hear you. I mean, it's a funny idea. It's just until I actually get permission to go actually talk to him. He's not in prison anymore. No, he's on house arrest. He's on house arrest. He shouldn't have been in prison in the first place.
Starting point is 03:03:31 He shouldn't have been in prison in the first place. Well, that's debatable here, Max. I think the difference is that, like, in the UK, like, if you're mentally ill, they'll send you to an actual to like a hospital. Here they don't give a shit. Here they just send you to prison. Matt,
Starting point is 03:03:46 he didn't pay like 300 million in taxes or something crazy shit. No, he didn't, what are you talking? He basically stole 180 million. You got to do what you got to do. I wish that was a, you know.
Starting point is 03:03:57 You gotta do what you got to fucking do. Yeah. Have you had any successful telling Frank stories for like a film or whatever? Oh, yeah. Man's got all sorts of stories for films.
Starting point is 03:04:14 How could you imagine, like, Frank, I'm going to like a thriller mini series? Oh, listen, you know how hilarious. You realize you could get five to ten years out of his story. Think about it. Think about how many times he's trying to, he's trying to. He gets close. Yeah, he gets close, but puts together a coup and it almost happens. Then he puts together another coup and it almost happens.
Starting point is 03:04:37 The CIA is trying to stop him from doing that, and they're trying to get him to do this, and the NSA comes in and the, I mean, the politics involved. I mean, you could drag that fucker out forever. It would be 10 seasons. And he's, and he's, he's, oh, you didn't read the book, but bro, listen, do you understand that he,
Starting point is 03:04:55 I didn't read it? He actually went to a meeting in a Darth Vader mask. Like, went to a boardroom meeting, walks in, you got to read the book, bro. You got to get the book. Matter of fact, it's on,
Starting point is 03:05:07 I got to, it's on Audible, too. So he actually, I mean, and when I, And when I heard that story, I thought that's insane. That that could have never. Then I read the transcripts when he was being sentenced. And one of the boardroom members got on the stand and actually talked about how he came in, sat down, and conducted the meeting while wearing a Darth Vader hat and nobody said anything. That's so fucking amazing.
Starting point is 03:05:31 That's just sitting there during that. It's the greatest thing I've ever heard. What's going on? Yeah. He's a god. He's an emperor. I saw someone uploaded, like, his depositions or whatever, onto YouTube. I can't, what?
Starting point is 03:05:46 What'd you say? He'd seen that. Someone's uploaded last of, uh... I can't tell what the phone. He said someone has... Like deposition. Someone has uploaded, what? Like him being...
Starting point is 03:06:00 Someone has uploaded videos onto YouTube of Frank basically, like, had any story. It's a lawyer. Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those have been out for a long time. Those are actually depositions. It's a mock deposition. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:06:16 Yeah, there's like a mock deposition that's on YouTube. It's been up for like... It's Frank? Five or ten years. Yeah, it's Frank. There's lots of video of him. Max, we're getting Frank on this podcast soon, so stay tuned. We're trying.
Starting point is 03:06:31 I'm in contact with him, and we're going to make it happen. And Matt Cox is going to be present as well. so as soon as we get his PO to sign off it's going to happen. Brilliant. Brilliant. Well, I'll let you go, guys. Thanks, Max.
Starting point is 03:06:46 Have a great night, man. Thanks for watching. We love you. Matt Cox's prison purse. Prison wallet. Prison wallet. Yeah. So we're going to, we're actually, we're designing some t-shirts,
Starting point is 03:06:57 some concrete t-shirts that are Matt Cox. We've been talking about it for a central focused. The front pocket's going to have a fake ID that says Gary Sullivan. or a social card or something. With Matt Cox's face. And we got some, it's, it's gonna be done in the next week or two.
Starting point is 03:07:14 So what is happening? We'll let everybody know since it's done. We'll give Matt Cox a cut of the profits. Don't worry. Yeah. Matt Cox's prison wallets. We need that. All right.
Starting point is 03:07:24 Do you hang up on Max? I think we're good, Matt. We just did like two, three hours. Three hours. It's 11.30. It's almost midnight. All right, that's ridiculous. Any last words?
Starting point is 03:07:41 I'm, you know, I, I'm tired. I want to go home. I want to. When is that place? I'm not getting dinner. I'm getting you dinner right next to our next. Timehouse service food until like 2 in the morning. Are you serious?
Starting point is 03:07:53 Yeah. Where are we? What's happening? Let's go. All right. Good night, everybody. Thank you for watching the Concrete Podcast with Matt Cox, live show. We love you all. Thank you for watching and subscribing and viewing and,
Starting point is 03:08:06 getting in the super chat. Matt Cox, any last word you want to tell it? I don't have wisdom. There's no wisdom. All right. All right. Oh, wait, wait, no.
Starting point is 03:08:15 You got to subscribe my channel. I got an Instagram, Cox Pop Art, right? As Instagram. And I've got my channel, which is Matt Cox, Inside True Crime. And I have a Facebook thing.
Starting point is 03:08:29 I don't think anybody's on Facebook. No, no. Fuck Facebook. I mean, I don't know. I don't really. I actually kind of like Instagram. Instagram, to be honest. Like at first I liked Facebook, but now it's like Instagram.
Starting point is 03:08:40 Facebook's done. Is it over? It's over. It's for the old people who are outraged about politics. That's me? Basically. That's me. I think you'll fit in.
Starting point is 03:08:49 There you go. All right, buy the paintings, buy the books. Buy it all. Buy OXT. Matt Cox, fuck yeah.com. All right. Goodbye. Goodbye, ladies and gentlemen.

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