Dante Gebel Live - El maestro del dolor

Episode Date: August 22, 2022

La pérdida es la norma de la vida, no la excepción; sin embargo nuestra cultura cristiana minimiza la tragedia y nos lleva a exhortar a la gente a que olvide rápido su luto y mire para adelante. Tenemos miedo a prestarle demasiada atención al dolor y no entendemos que las muertes, las enfermedades serias, los divorcios y otras crisis, debían ser momentos de discipulado para ayudar a las personas a salir de la tendencia cultural de adormecer el dolor. Recordemos que el mensaje central de Cristo es que el sufrimiento y la muerte traen resurrección y transformación. No puede haber nacimiento a lo nuevo, sin dolor. El dolor nos confiere un corazón de grafeno y nos da la capacidad de crecer y de ser receptivos al dolor ajeno.

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us, and as you said, a assistant here, and the transmission in vivo, for an operation to a heart-abird. I'm going to transmit it what I think. God me said that

did you do. We're going. We're all. Very. Yes. I saw a few days after I read an interview that

in the graph in the graphic to a grand scriterer Mexican Socorro Benegas. And she did a various

many other novels, the last quote, the most recent, is the name, where it ardi, and she's in all this quote about the of the story, as well, putting it as a sort of fiction, with reality, and the periodist in this interview

he asked a Benegas, what's when really we're really a person, talking of the duel, about to, and her to a person-kear-to-you-

and she says, or respond in the interview, us We're basically to ourselves when one when one when one

is a man who can't be able to be the same for much that

we're a person mutilated. And that is the duel more great, the duel

of the people that we were because not only we're

not only we're not just we're we're we're so we're

so so the duels is being mutilated I insist, no we'll be

to be the first of the infortunio. So, I said the author. And then he said, in the moment

of the duel, one is so an disadvantage with the rest of the world. Apparece in those who say,

if I would have your situation, I would be a situation, I'm not what I

know what I'm doing, and she say to the give you do you're and why, you're just

you've been so, but all It also seems that they're in solidarise, but no they can do. And that interview me is to think about the vast series of peridies that accumulamous in the trajectory of a life and that, in some way,

as the author, Socorro Venegas, are mutiling our own. There are peridididestiners, the murder of an child, the fallacishment of a conjuice, a discapacity, the divorce, violation, abuse, sexual or emotional, a cancer terminal,

infertility, a suicide, someone that we love us, we have us, we're trying, other pernities but that also dole. They're insignificant for the rest,

but we're notewed. Reprimedas or negated they're in our lives like rocks that are in not they're not they're

they're asphyxia us can't the oxygen our skin starts and behege and we

mudamos and our our amissaries and our sometimes disappear and a a little

we're we're going growing and every bit more dependientes and it and we're we're not

we're not we're not necessities. In a muddance, we have some of the old and a lot of photographs that we can't recover, and of those which we don't have copia. An auto atropella to a new mascot a fiel.

They're pern't. But dolein. Others are more difficult to classify because they're more occultas. A baby that nace moor. An embarazo fallido. An abort. And the question is not to calculate

if it's a peridda gradual, if it's subita, if it's a tragedy, something we're we're going to, if transit the public, if transit what private, the perid is the norm of the life. Perder things or perder people,

is the regla, not the exception. And I see that our stories and our temperamentos are different. Here, no more, we're a plethora of temperament, a plethora of temperament, of characters, and that each one responds to the pain in a different.

Not all respondemes equal, but what we don't is ignore it, nor the pain our own, nor the other norgene. Responding it in a manner different, but not we can't ignore. During many years,

in our churches, in general, minimisamos the peridas, and this we drove to a absolute sensation of superficiality to a profound fault of compassion,

of empathy, is like that we're in the subconscious collective of that you're in a burden, is to bellow is to have a little faith.

So, our culture Christiana minimisa the tragedy, minimisa the peridas. Like our capacity for the

empathy with the pain is almost perdida. It's it's not quite understand that someone

is suffering much time because still is going to the death and the

problem. And when our life experimented a perid, we're

we're we're so much, it's so the culture of the superficiality

that we don't that we that when something we're we're we're just

we're just something that's something that's something that's not the

people, not the devil, the devil not can be so that It's like that we're

in a surprendrains that something that something we'll hear. Then we ignore us. We're indifferent to the perid, ante the disorders, and I'm wondering

if we're not, we're doing we're so much we're not people depressive, even in the church, because even in the congregations there's an explosion of drugs

prescripts for the insomnia for the anxiety as never before in other generation. We're We're We're in

consensable to hear in the quantity of people that's in a lot of because of other way can't consider

the suing the I'm not I'm not going because if we know we know we

there's there so far there's to be a little a little peace

Jesus defined the process of the life with these

words and it he's the literally to the point as always he

said he was about that he didn't he said the gran of trigo Juan 1234 Juan 1224 if the

grain of the tree no in the earth and he and he he

gets only but but if he he has fruit

if no he gets only he he he's much

fruit if the if the gran if the gran of a sterile. I have a granite, but no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, so it's reproduces. For that creases, for that's fruit, has the granite not to be, not not start enthrased, so not start planted. So, Jesus,

all the time that he says, characterizes the life Christian like a murder. All the words and all the Lord about is,

you have to die, to be to be resuscited you, you have to pass by the cross. And the the church

we have, a position unique, me is a me, a point, I don't know how I say it, a privilege, a providence, to accompany

to the people in the conjunctures critical of their life, in those moments where it's a moment where is really

die to something, I'm talking of the people of people, the church we've been

to understand the divorcees those the translado geographical with all what means to make

to turn the world known to adventurarn us to new to something we don't have an idea, or a culture distinct, a new

a different in this case. Those are the moments of discipline to help to help us to get to our tendency cultural to

adormecer, to ignore the dolor. We have the opportunity unique to say, you're going to

say, you're going to this is the site correct, no, you could come to other

other during years, and this is an autocritica, we've seen those people who have suffered abuse in their past, and never has permitted transiting his the loss. We say, no, no, no, no, no, not back, because there you know you're not to know you're not, and not we permit us

that make the transition, the duel, as we said, the dominole past. To be able to advance, a lot, to be reverture and see what we did we do not repeat the error. Of other mode, we're condemned to repeat it. Celebrates the day of the mothers and, we always we'd

to be sensible or empathic with the parishes stetrile, with the women solteras, for the which the day of the mother is the domino most difficult of the year, because his dreams of

conceive, they're more and more, but we're not we don't know that's the women, and we're saying, oh, it's the day of the mother. I don't think that with this we're going to celebrate.

I don't know, that we don't know the empathy, of the The women that in a day normal and traditional are suffering, the people who get a kid, and we exhorting, how rapid, they'll go to your life normal, as, as how it's possible. Perder a child, that no has a man, that is a d'olour that, I presume, no, never.

Citamphys Pensis 4-4, and we say, regozy-hous in the senior, always. One person knows that's that a time, a divorce, a divorce, a separation, a a tradition, and we recitamos Roman 828. Romanos 828, and we say, and we know that those who ames God, all the things, they'll help them.

Yes, I know. But I'm going to beattraying a lot, us confies. And at times, not we'll let us that traverses his luto, that, that, that, does the valley of sombrass, for the perthia of his ownies,

David, he said, even he traverses the valley of sombers so it's not an option we have to have to

not can't there, not get us there's there but eventually we'll have to cross

valleys of a a boy starts to explore his pasto and he

looks archaeologically in his and he does a question that he he's

he's when he he's no, no, no, you're to be to be

an adult, look to be a that's a very that's why it's aene. But we're much fear to present

attention to the pain but I'm convinced that many of the majority of the days, God,

it's not the dolor to make us the dolor is necessary. No, we don't love,

to me not much, to us to us we're just we're going, if we're there's not

there, no there, no, I'm there a phrase there that says, we're

we're going, we're we're the pain of maintain as we're more than the the

the way of the time we're when the the of the problem

is more great than the the the pain to the then the

pain the the the qubranto for that is necessary the duelo

for that is necessary respect those that are suffering although

we're in the church because is the process psychological and the

response emotional and the experience of a period. And one has to have a theology about that. There's here there's much people that have

heard about people who have been able to or have been to have been to a lot, that is the process,

nothing less to adaptarse to a new normality of aida, a chair a car a cuna

that no has a a a little a little a a house silenciosa

a a a a a a perid of employment physical, to to be a lot of mulettes, to be confined to a cilia of a road, to a a change of a position comodda financial, to one that is more pauprema. That's a new normality. We can't say, I can't and you have to have a

a legria. Cuest. Dicen that there are five steps during a duel, the psychologos. First, the negation, the enojojo the negotiation, the depression, and finally the acceptation. Those are the five steps of the duel. And although I me me helps a lot, and I know that this is utilitarian, practical,

I mean me also observe in the scriptures how David had traversed his duels, between tantos that are in the scriptures. But me surprised how David, because David, because David, he was preser, as a poet, with his prosa discarned he was

he was he went about the process of the problems I'm he's the response

to the death the when David when David he's enter

of the death and Jonathan he he can't a

song a endeach that is a song of a

song of all the people in the his people in the

his Israel y' y'clock for Saul in second

of Samuel 1-24. He asks to the women of Israel that are the

God. David is anxious because others are they unan to the

yenton that derramen the pain of the long perid

that now is the nation of Israel. It's

like he has a piece that has been

going that he's not not he's not you know

he's no he's no he's we're we're we're we

In 2nd of Samuel 1.18, David also, his end-decha, or so, his song of lament, he's ensign to the millions of men of Judah. He says that the year-notary not

a part of a lot of the woman. David, to be said to be a a manorrior, he said, that's not all the women,

also the women, and the men don't know. I want to that memorize and that repitance, this lament

for Saul and Jonathan. And I'm when was the last time that we can't in the church a lament

like that in the service of adoration to God of God. Of actually, who remember the

last time that's the important to afflixirce for a perid and integrate to the adoration

to God? Today I am to to honor and I'm a year to I'm when it's

the last time that someone you know, well, if you have got to

you know, you're a man, my I mean, he'lle, like a macho, that's that you

get in the moco in the bigotias, and so generally, they say, no, confiase victory, no, so why,

David, obliga the people to pay the attention to the because they want to

they express in their dolor, insist, for the muft of Saul, the ex-reye, and Jonathan,

his no, not a case much work to do, now that comes a transition to a new gestion of government

that he has to take the throne? No, has other directives, financial, economic,

to give? Yes, certainly, yes, there's the transition governmental, but David

and he is the indispensable that is the pain for the mother for the

motherness spiritual. It's that a very, that not that is good.

It's well, it David knows how important when we dedicate time to lamenting our pardias before to go ahead.

Not to get it there. But there's a time that we need to be a pause. If I don't I'm re-wee my life, I don't know if I'm

to be able to continue. David knows what important that is for the people to be to be connected

with the reality and not to we're from we can't we can't we can't say something

The Psalmos, is the book most popular of the Bible, is more or less in the middle of the scriptures, includes, for those who never were read or not know, includes

salmos of adoration, of action of grace, there are many salmos of the sabbordination, of repentimient, salmos

that expresss but the majority is so much to be so much salms of many psalms of the 150 psalms are classificed

like lamentos Cortavenas the majority of the 150 Psalmos are like the boleros or like the tango Argentino

me dejo and she went with another the disgrace well, something are so the Psalms

Salvando the distance no how you're that they're that they're that they're comparing the Psalmos

with the tango Well, David described the majority of the Psalmos, according the tradition. And the lamentos prested attention to the reality to this life that sometimes is put a day, to a day that sometimes is difficult,

and a lot of times even brutal, and it's just a lot of it. And it's allms that take note of the apparent absence of God that we feel. No, I don't think that God is absent, what we're not that we're not sure, The Psalmos

Adverten when the circumstances that are that God is not even is good, that we're that's

situations that says, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, me say God me is that

God, because I don't so I'm so so much. Salmos, that clamens consoling, that clam

compassion, the Psalm 43, 2, says, why, I'll, and I'm enlutated

for the oppression of the enemy. He's Pregunda, God, why do you have to with a dolor? Because the enemy no part of oprimed.

The Psalm 77-8 says, has cessed your miscarriage? How many we've said in private? Lord, you

have you did me? You've did you have to have my sericordia of me, says the

Psalmist. Salmo 42, 3, says, were my my pan of day and

the night because one is to worry in the socigo of the night, when the

soul is enhanche, when we going to get to get to be all the day there's a

day. Salm. 68, 6, says, me has put in the ojo profound.

A psalmo that's the call to the call to God, to be in the old you, in tiniblas

profound. So, over me it seems to repos to nojo, me has affliged,

sir. There are written, are churned, and much of us have been have adopted the custom of denigal the

of the affliction, no, I'm not, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm going, I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm going, and I'm going, and I'm going, and I'm going, and maybe the way more popular of not to present attention to our dolor and in our

perid, are the mechanisms that have to be with the addiction. When we're trying to let us, we're going to dole, the people uses the job, the television, the alcohol, to go, to come from, of parranda, the negotiations,

the adventures sexual, all with the end of mitigating the of the pain, of not think. For that's that the alcoholic to take for not think. I've known a man who said, and why tommas? To forget, to forget, what?

To forget what? To forget what I'm not. And what we use those Christians? To avoid the dolor? He's servied to God, incansablement, the being 24-7 is servitor of God.

Usamos the servie to God to not have to confront the pain to the other activities Christian, the start all the time in the church

and serving are being down-as when we're using not to get us to get to get to

the pain, it's an addiction more santa if it's more religious but addiction

at Because we have the pressure to to show a image madura, spiritual. That's not yet to the majority, to show that all right. And we'll forget us that none of us is perfect. That all we're not, generally the predicators

not sullen count those infortunes, his frustes, his depressions, but for, finge. And not because are hypocritas, necessarily, but because they're thinking

that if they're authentic, that's that's going to say, that if they are sockxabar

the authority, the person is saying, if this is a devil that's to be made to me,

I'm suicid I'm thinking that. I think it's not. I think we know that we don't seem

that we're not we don't know me say, not me say I'm say that I'm can't

how many we're we're going to certain things of our history pasted

to dishonor the name of God. How could we say, oh, that if you could be able to borrow, no I want to me it. David not do.

As a rey, could have made make sure any register of his fracaso moral, but used his power to assure us

that in the books of history all the generations future say that he had fracasasable. Of course,

David wrote a question about the There is the Psalm 51 when says a song that composed

David, after that pecced with Bedsabe, and she repinted, so he put the title for that it gets clear. Not it's like

those composers that can't, not know if he can't to the Luna, to the friend,

to the man, to the man, he, he, he's, it's a

question to be a can't to be in the services of Israel, and

it's publicer also in the manuals of cult, that are the Psalms, he put in the cancionero,

the day that I fracced, another of the great men, Pablo, he's written, he says to the churches of the he pastorea, he says,

about the ruegos that he has personales, about the what God, not he responded to a gujong of the

that all presumed that everyone says, no, he was a court of a bit, no, no, he's talking

because in other occasions he l amplia more, and my body, has, all the contrary, what my spirit desire.

He'll talk of a debility that wants that God he quitted. And then he

he says to God because he recalls to the lectors that that that's that doesn't

humilde and that he's perfection to God in your debility. Abre the

heart Christians know what? Do you today? Or, in a public?

I'm to tell my my debility. The Bible not occulted the defectors and the

Dolor of Moses was a exas was a exorcist was a prostituta Pedro reprended

to God he's enborrachos Conas was racist Jacob was a manis

Juan Marcos abandoned a Pablo Elia was he was deprimed heemis

was depressive and suicide Thomas was Timoteo had ulcedas. You have you had more Bible than a mesquita, Lea.

When you're in the moment equivocal, it's because not he's been the Bible. So the secret was that not occulted the the other, and he was the other people

the Brees expressed physically their lamentos. Rasgabed their vestigures, they put silice, they put silice, and thenusas. the

Caida of Jerusalem, Jeremias He's written a book of the Bible has been, who knows, Lamentations. Lamentations.

It's like to say, I've created a book called Corkabena. Lamentations. Not is metaphorical. They're lamentations.

The quejas of Jermias. And there are in the scriptures. Imagine Jesus, according Isaiah 53, 3,

baron of Dolores. In the situations, is at the tomb of Lazzar and in the other than

for his friend, he said, well, going, all the world, we're going, we're doing,

let us, power, power, power, empower, power, empowerse, chicas, chikas, chik,

people, imagine it. I'm not, let's get her to get the little man, Lassar, let's get the

man, or when Jesus was going in the cross, in the In the other to clamor, God me has desamparred,

why me has desamparado? I would say, I'd say, well, no, it's for a t'ritor, so, afflis, it's indispensable

for a spirituality real, that is not the not that's a moment too, for some I'm

that I'm that's a catastrophe, more grand, that the reality, that is genuine, when we are submerged in a fault of reality, no there's a better thing,

I'll say in a manner fina for that you're at the University of Harvard, like I, I went. I mean from out of the photo, I saw a photo, and I went to various, I saw it. But I want to get that way. No, no, there's a better thing to be be in a middle of a nubes of flatulence religious.

NUBE of gas mental. Every day I know more people living there. It's like the religion does license a lot to that sometimes we live in a world of fantasy,

irreal, a life inflated with anabolic, that not is condice with the reality of what suffer the people. For that

a few, we're so many we're not quite I've known the long of this peregrineral Christian from people

that de facto that he's the job because God he said that has to live for faith. He has eight children, and God, in a revelation, he said,

"'dea the employment, he lived for faith. A crevente that were in projects pharaonic, that were nevering their life, his matrimonial, because God's it in a revelation,

to him, incomprobable, but God's he was after to eat seven tacos, he went and he took revelations. Even people that were to

do not to go to a medical a time because they were to curate in the name of the Lord, even others

that were a pastor and without a background, without any preparation, they were an church

because they were not they were to do you know, nobody was commissioned, nobody

was ordered, and by the pretext, me the said the Lord, that abra a new

church where there a new church, that's the flatulence mental, the fact of

and the real life spiritual not is a a way of the reality, but a compromise absolute with the reality.

For that we don't have to elude our errors, to look atas spiritual, because the dolor is a great maestro. The passing

for these situations difficult are us can't. How we're to counsel to other parishes, to other

parents, to other abelos, if never we've been a pair, fathers, and abuelos.

If never have known what is having a child. Could someone who

never was a mother to come to be a mother to do?

No. We can understand what is a infirm terminal of

cancer if never we've never a time the

it does it does do with those who suffer. Jobb it was all

a single day. The prophet in a one day heard of all day, heard wealth, and much of

we've experimented about all the life, no? No, in a single day. But we

do we our youths? Well, you know so much but you don't know

so you're not trying of the process of the embegisement neither with ciruptics plastic,

no cosmetic, or with a good diet, or with exercises the process of the

embegesimient the law of the law of entropy, not is detient. Who

has lost his dreams? The dream of a career that

could to to continue, a marriage, a family, the

and we also experimented peridid every that every we're a new

country, so you go to a better a better a so you

you go to Venezuela, of Buenos Aires, of Mexico, and you go to Switzerland, there's a there. Of the known, of the of the people, the people. The majority of us experimented a perid catastrophe in one or in various moments of the life.

When a member of the family mourn repentinamently, an infart or an ACB, changed radically the story of your ape-yto. When our conjuice has an adventure with another person, when we're

only after of a divorce dolorous, when we're diagnostics, a cancer, when we're despise,

after 20 years in the same company, in the same company, of a job stable, when our

child, when our child is with a disability serious, and we know from that is

a chiquitito that possibly never never will to be to be a automobile, never

will never will and we know that has five, six, seven years

that that that's that will live to be and that little bit and that chikito

will be a man with a mind of a minute of people who want

sopirted because only a father he can love so only a mama

a mother a man a man can't abort abort We're

we're trying for a tradition of the church, for something we're going to we're having a revelation

and we're how I've so I'm so I'm sent him we're really a pastor even at

sometimes for God myself. We're we're not our illusions about this new family

in Jesus that's the church and we're saying we're saying we're oh, I think you

and then how long time we've done to give to give us the church perfected

No, there people perfect, as we we'd we're we're just we're in actually a

person who doesillusioning and hop so knew of those perid of those disillusions Hobb

was Elom Musk the Jep Bezos the Bill of the Bible says that

had 7,000 obehas we know abrums the richness that he had

7,000 obeges had 3,000 camels that that was carisimim 3,000 camels, 500 juntas, 500 asno, a grand plantilla of employees.

Today, we've seen his rostro, always, in the portade of Forbes, all the years, because he was the man most rich of the world. Between his active, there was a flotet of Roll Royce, Bugatti, Lexus, two Tesla to go to the fairia, aviones privates impressive negotiations

prosperous notrimonies immobiliarious in expansion and Hop 1.3 says that all the people were

the person of the major renomber was one of the most influential was a man was a man

too was he was he'd partado of the mal and then all the

forces of the the sky and the earth, they put on the contra of Hop, and Hop saw in the middle of a polemicca. To do the story short, the enemy go,

and he'll talk with God, he says, I want to get the covertura, for that I'll afflige, and we'll see this type, without any form, without, and the

yacht, you, he said, and the poor the guy was down to look on the tennis around. Calley,

cached, rations, a tornado, desat his fury, the man more rich of his times,

had been in the ruin, his 10 children muriard in a disaster natural, 10 funerals, enterer a little bit

10. Homme, no peco? No, culp to God. He was, he responded in a manner incredible, he,

he was covered of ampoyas dolorosas, says the word, from the plant of the feet,

and the coronet had ampoyas a biruela of the mono. The suls they infestated of gusanos. So, no, they had no

the sepsia, minimal. He entered a fever very high, with some scalofreous atroces,

the insomnia, the delirio, the haugue, gendarer their days, not could respirate, that's

a horrible other option that muders to be out of the murals of the city, to the basurer

of the refuge of the marginados. He was sent him, isolated, suffering his solitaire destiny, and, for the last, his matrimony was to be a house, and he says, "'What, woman desalmada, that no

"'a'n't, but, despite of 10 funerals, "'de a mom that entierrared 10 "'and a husband seriously "'enferm, he has enough, poor "'pourne. "'For so, Ba' and reproach, and says, "'Tonabye, still, maintain your integrity. "'Tonabye, there is a

"'alough to do you to God? "'Maldice to your God, and die' are words but only those who have experienced the dolor intense,

you know, that one says words so much that's and hostiles as in moments of the

and what makes more disconcertante the history is the naturalness immerecited of his

suffering because no there connection between that time of the

and a way or culto or exposed it, is unjust why the

love of God does this to How would we have we said, after a pernard of so catastrophic? You know, you've been in Beverly Hills or you've been in a zone of residential?

Of a sudden, a hurricane, you're going to get in the nada, indigent. How would we've responded? I'd say, always, the suffering is difficult, is difficult, and, but also different for each one. It's a little bit. Every family and every culture affronts the dolor of manner distinct.

I think that our culture is of terrestrial. I think that our culture is determinant in the manner to affrontal the dolor, yet we're North American, Latinos, Chinese, Arab, Afro-American, judio, of Europe of the East or Caucasus. But all of us front us the way distinct of the d'olore.

In an extreme of the spectro, are the anglo-sajones, the gringoes, the whesso-coloured, that, always they do they're in a funeral, they're just like, without alboroto, and with disorder. It seems like, the little, they said, if you'd say,

Some day, you'll have an infortuny, no you'll get a calm. I've gone to the first funerals in my life, gringoes, are very pragmatic. The majority, always, there's exceptions to the regla, no? But the majority? No, you know if you're in a memorial or in the entry of the Oscars?

Viener, the memorials, or the funeraries, grink, are so, the child, totally stoic, the chiquet, he's, and he passes so. Like, for a graduation. Bestied impeccable, like a cat of a rick, all so, he says, oh, papa, was really genial. Oh, you know, I'm

to use balloncesto, and I made the best malleysed. And he's the old in the cajone, but no, me he was. In the extreme opposite, we're the latinos. That we pass us all the night y'n' front of the ta'oos. And it's more, there are peores.

In other places, like Italy and Greece, the women have a roba nigger for the rest of their life, the Greeks and the Italianas. Rupas for the rest of his life, then has been a morton his husband. Capas that they have three maridomers more, but with a roba negras. And in the funerals Italian, I've seen.

After they're going to the ferectro with the puns, gritty the number of the Murt. The vudas enojoujus, insults the morton, because he's murdhese, my calzone, perches and morto, perches and morto, perches and morto! My ay, la siato, me do, ma piento, bedo, be da peanto,

perches and mort, And all the world's enter. Salta, they're in the tomb. When they go to the ta'oos, they're they're up, they're to get. Turn in dietro, torrent, Enso, Juseppe, Tord, en diem, Torn, and he says, retorn,

and, what's going to go back? Enso, he's going to move to the year, and now have the opportunity. And yetro, Joseph, Ence. And our culture, Christian, how is? We're trying to eviter the dolor. We think, no, no, this what's not what is of God,

must be related with my pecations the best of my time I'm going to

keep you look at what you that's what you that's the people abandoning the

because it's like to get to go to the it's like to get

to get the I'm going to you're to get a man and I

see I'm a look and what is the question of the Christianism

we we're that the way is to the life is a like the gran of trieo and the resurrection.

Now, I know that it's more easy to predicate it than to divil. I don't know. But we have to familiarize us with the disease, and now me to pass this. Look, when we're small, the brain. The cerebr is that very designed by God

that cognitively, the cerebrough creates a barrier defensive to liberarn us one of the most grander. to be given to God. For example, if a nennito, a new, a new, a new,

sexual or emotional, the negation is a mechanism a mechanism of super-servincy. It's like the mind to protect the the right of the mind of the

sufficiency and it and it permits to the child support that circumstances in the majority of the case. It's very very solidable,

not experimented those when one is an infante, with the fin to survive emotionally. No, the transition to the adultess us exige that madure us and superemes those mechanisms of defense of the negation

and to look at the reality. Because Jesus said, and I knower and the is a very, and the truth, or wills are, libelres. But if we know the truth, never tendreys libertar. So, inconscientiment many, we've got to the life adult

many mechanisms of defense to protect us of the dolor. And in that stage of the adult, block we'llke us our cresiment spiritual and emotional, as I said the dominole-pastard. So we have many mechanisms of defense against the dolor, especially the Christians.

It's the number one. In the worst of the cases, with a bottle of tequila, with wine, with an hour of pornography in Internet, with sex casual. Number two,

we negam us. Pretendeming that we need. We ingeemions a plan for that nobody

notes that we're that's a farce. Number three, we minimisamos. No, no me dole,

this is going to pass, I've got victory, there's other that I,

I can't queja. Yes, but it's your daughter. Has you had to

your It's your It's your dolor. Number four, we enterramos, we're in our own calendar of activities,

we're putting to serve to God without a time, because the most occupied we're less time we have to think

in what that's truja to our heart. Number five, we're just we're just we're flagellas

we, we're just we're not with latigues but we're we're slits to do things to doors,

RITOs to catar, penitences dolorous disrasated a sana doctrine, all for that duela less

what really we need to do it, what really a manned on the head, never a

cut the cabo, mida the falda and he never a bed the and he

a heart a heart a woman. The really, God, will be the

embassely the of the same, we've not we mention the the dolor,

never we can we can't callation, not you don't be a family, much

less that's is the pastor. And we maintain all very superficial. Crucamos the dead for that the monster of the

water is to maintain in the bottom of the long. Number seven, we're deviant the dolor. Attacked to

our children with explosions of character. We're desquitam with our conjure. We grittam

to the employees, to other conductor, to the Chinito, that all the Chinese manage well,

I know because you have to get to We don't know we'll never, we'll never to lastimar.

Then we're the photo of the family perfect, we're Christians perfect, we're living for the social, there's a lot of people that live for the social, that, in bed to do you

in a restaurant, with the person that they're in front in the mess, they're thinking in a photo to see a other. They're at the place, in the place,

they're thinking, when you, when you, when you, when they're and what put you're, and then they're not more in the play. You're seeing what's the

guys are the guys who are the guys. And we're a lot of material, and we're doing this to get to

make them, but you're taking a lot of photos to give a false testimony of something that no way.

That's to avoid the confrontation. And Job us present a manner brilliant of how

we've been out of the family of Jesus without the culture the temperament or the gender. In first

he pretexts attention to the dolor, as well as David. Jureen, Houses of Jerusalem for Saul and Jonathan. Well, Job is equal. He presta attention.

No, he ignores. No, minimizes. For so I go, we have a pocaology in the congregation for the enojo, the trestesse, for the duelo,

for the depression. We're asking, how are you? In Victoria! Hallelujah! In Victoria! Who goes? Who is?

Who goes? No, Because I'm perfect, hallelujah. Who is? Because I occulted the hemorrhoids and suffer them in silence. What does, Job? No reprimed nothing.

Grita his dolor. Maldice the day that he was there in the scriptures. It's there in the scriptures. And a few are the censure us but not us correspond to us censure what we don't us convienes.

He says, J. H.O.K.E.K.E. The night in that was announced, nace, a new. Oh,halla, that

day, is a world to that's in Hohp. 3.3. He grita, in a, in

a oration osada, he grita God. He says exactly how it's so it's

not if God not the God. It's there. There's 35

capitul of how he's done. Dude, he I was, I was to doubt.

I'm grito. He asked where was God, and why he was going to do you? No, he bit the horror of the situation, he was fronted. He said, this dolor, me is going to be a number one, to say, to me me is passing a dolor.

For that I'm going to river. Because I'm in a dolor. For that I'm listening. For you're doing a service for streaming. Because I'm with a lot. No, it's a peccado. if the Lord not is

a man he was called baron of Dolores according Isaiah in second

in second place transit the duel of the dolor it's even

even that the valley of the death not temere

mal anyone said Job he he he did

I know I don't I don't I'm a

I detest more than other culture to expect

the Argentineers, we don't even to expect to, to expect to to be able to an avion. I see of that when aterisa the

plane, a voyage ahead or a voyage at last, you're going to all like, and we're like a polo so and we're just like we're going to

open the door, we'll have been three hours and a a half, no important, I know, I'm going to get to try the and a half a

and a minute, I'd like to get to get to be the emergency and that to get to get to to get to get to My major

RETO, for more of 50 years that I've been to when I've to transited the limbo of the

spirit. I preferferior the control, like all you're for more that me come in that that

man, I'm going to Santa Clara of Assis. I know that's I'm going. I'm

I'm trying after they have been, after after I'm the promise that that would

have a He's a issue, and he engendra a baby of a way natural? I'm

know. The Ismailes abunded in our churches and our life personal. The tachos. For so

one of the mandates of the general is guard silence against the Lord.

Guard silence and he he's with patience Salmo 377 7. Guard

silence. Cere alpick, the geta says a version Dante Abloi and

and he's here. Obedece, requires humility. Job passes a period of duelo where the all has-le-doed, they're going to have because the theology of the people that was about Job, as a lot of the theology of who not have been

sufficient God in the equation to try to help us to the time of the time of the dolor. All want to resolve us the problem and to give us a consequence. When one wants to listen to a counsel, one wants a

So, Job had to battle with his three religious, that were convinced that he was suffering for a peccado. Job, you're just causechating what's he said, they said, to have the other religious, and he says, "'Algo have you done.

"'You're suffering for your "'Pecado.' These three friends representan the legalism of the church. And this not was the He was suffering, a person that was that he was innocent.

And his friends, as many, many people, they were God, and they were in the place of God

and said, this, Jesus. So, Job, had two luchas for the other,

with his people, and he said Jehovah, and see to all the thing, he was going,

you know, that's a person, who you're to know, what you're doing, what you're

doing, that's bavosos, pardon, that those, they're, they're distributed strategically for that you find out of two to three per day.

One says, today you're going to to find out minimum three, that's distributed in a manner strategic. In his intent to explain what God is doing, they're torturing.

You've passed to feel better after having been to have been to let me, let me tell you a word of alient. The Lord me

says that, even to keep the because this cancer will impurearer when you repentate of these his own, he said, he said, that the victory the coroner and you go to other side?

There are moments that you exasperate. So, Job understood that he can't hear to when he's passing of the lute not be the

not the same, I'm going to go to this, it's supposed to we're a manoeuvre, it's supposed to do you're a pastor and we're going to ask for what?

In third place, Job accepts his limits. He's limited. I'm a question if the pernida more great that we're going to have is one day to know that we have limits. That's humildes. The principle of the sabedure is to know what we know.

Job accept those limits. I'll give a list realist and cruda of your limit, because you're saying, I'm not, I'll give a list. I'm including. I'm going to include. Just to you. Not just so that you're not so little.

Our body is physical. Our body is dying. All our bodies are dying. All are more closer to the tomb than the utero.

No, no one is in reverse. No, no one is we're doing and some day we'll get to the polvo.

We're going to eat, and to live a day more. Figate, what dependency? Who says, I can't

I'm used to not eat? The day that you you're accustomed to not to eat, you're to eat, and you're going to eat, and dolemen. Neither all the ciruans

plastic of the world can't detain your process of embefficeriment. No, it's. Another limit, our family of origin, our family actual, as you said the doming

our origin ethnical, our culture, us gave limits, don't and limits. All, we get to our adult with limits limit is hered-aided of our family.

Our state civil is a limit. The matrimony is a limit. The solteria is a limit. They're done by God. If you're a casso, not can't do the things of soltero. If you're soltero, not the number of the new you have is a limit.

It's not the same a matrimony who has two children, one that has 14. Let me, if not is a limit. Our capacity intellectual, none of us is brilliant. In mathematics, engineering, carpentery, physics, and music at the same time. No, no, an Argentino is...

Well, in all of that. Our talents and don't are limits. Jesus had all the dones. I can't have two, three, capas that you have ten, but it's a limit. The resources financial. We're limited to the resources.

Our level of prosperity does limit. Our material prima. God, God, a personality, a character, a show unique.

I have in the spectrum that is that integrates the category more of the

spectrum is a don, and it's a limitation at the way, because that

that's a problem neurobiological in my case is a don't great to

to write, to but I limit in certain emotions socially

I mean, it produces certain routines obsessive, compulsives, that no you'd not you'd be to tell, because I'm just chismery, no, I mean the case. Our time is a limit, we have a life to live it. We can't do all of all. I'd like to live in Oregon

and to enjoy the there, of Portland, in the Toscana, Italy, in Manhattan, but I can't. I'd like to have other professions, other disciplines, No, I can't, my time no me can't. The life has no

my life. Our environment or the church is a limit. We're in me of cards and spina. Who,

not could be the church perfect? But we don't have perfection to do that so we can

we can we can't we can't be a good, too much to say I'm

to say, I'm the good our comprehension spiritual is a limit.

Dutronomio 29, 29, the secret to God. So, and to Creser means that

not we're the center of the universe, that not we're the edge of the planet. And for

some, it's very dolorous to learn this. But our ego tends to be so

exaggerated that we act we do it's a very much we're just, and we have fantasies. For that

the famous flattulences mentales. We're always we're talking of the great visions

and we're to do more than what God disposed what we did we do we we're going to

we're doing we're doing we're going to we're going we're in pauses convinced that if we're going to our world is going to

the church the the business the new the things we're going to no no no no no

we're going to go to the world will be those who want you want to the

tana will be the Italian tu atahu and will more calzons for you're

you're the gringo say, oh, it's been, but you're going to you're going to we're going to our throne

to run us to be able to the rest of the humanity, it's a obligation, that's that's a

part of us, and we need those limits. And this is in part the reason for the

whole to feel a question, is a requisite to get to get the

the maturity because the limits they're saying, wow, what dependient I'm,

you know, what one you see what one when we gotroth COVID that one and says, no, no, no, I'm more or less, but there are

some of those that not can't move from the camera. It's an spanto, that sensation, where a year was all right, and of a sudden,

the dolor is in all the body, you doggas? There one says, what limited I'm, I had plans

for the vacations to go to that side that's the lesson of Job. Because he not only

only was transformed spiritually but when when he was that when the Lord was prospered to new

and he did two times more than he had and the Lord bendico

the last of the first he's his richness so duplicated

God he gave two and he lived for many years

but that he was he was my master when he

said I'm limited I'm I'm my grace he

is my favor his power his power is perfection

in my debil somebody has to say amen

Look, much attention to this. The message central of Christ is that the is that the suffering and the death bring resurrection and transformation. But recently came the resurrection when something when something new. When nace the new, we'll become compassives as our father. If you passed out for a new,

for a problem family you know you know that you know to the boy to the wuerfano to margined

to the first first we understand we don't we justgues the dolor us depoja of the

pretensions of what not is essential we are more apt to desacerns of things that not

are important you know that the does that you know what you do you what is what you

what you what you what you what you not you we're We've been able to impression to others.

Now, not us motivate to grader to the people, now we've been for the social. We learn to say, God, know, why? No, I don't know why this. We'll learn to say, God, why, I don't know. Because now it's a greater humility,

a more vulnerability. The pain makes it that we'llke us that makes that we can't we put us in the center of our lives and comece us to rechase our metas puerile, superficials, trivias. Flue a new more of us that before not we had. So I want to understand this.

There is a lot that is before the operation. When you say, or me intervenes chirurgically or this dolor me matta. But then there's a the pain that is after the intervention,

is the post-operatorio. or time of recuperation, that says, go and make a reposso, no's move. There are people that after the operation has been to

have to be sitting, or the points to turn, or you have to have to bea and you can't get a venda. That is the

pain of the recuperation. That is a good thing. I know that there's a person here, if at a

majority, that's living the the dolor of the recovery, the post-operatorio. Only because

you're not means that not means that you're You're getting bettering. If you dole, it's because you're cicatrising. For the first time, they're

arranging your things. The other dolor is the that you know you're going to keep having. This is the dolor of when God met you're going to here with a car with because I'm working, says the Spirito-Santo

in your heart. You know, when it's when you've got the anesthesia of the mouth, then I go to go to the dentist and they've worked much because they used in a Rucanal or a limpeza.

If you're going to get to dole. And what logical, if they were meting the man there during a hour and a half, well, today the Lord

met you know during a hour in your heart and you will be a day, you're going to do this time,

you're going to say, wow. The dolor before the operation no had a purpose. But the

pain after of the operation has a purpose. Tampocoe can't be a new no longer.

The mammy know of this. The crescimento dole. And the most important, the church,

one that's the whole and he and he and he and he

gets to understand the rich fruit of the compassion divine to the

people. Only the great master of the power us does the

power to do the people to do to us so we don't

we don't do you know to let me give to

someone to be to someone of a man or a little

a nina of a papa, that all the he's all the he's a he's a so he's, he's not, he's put to

get a and make a and say, and I'm to show a people who doesn't know and that's

even being that's a little. It's just what Jesus needed to to get us to get us

to get us to get if it's trying to do we're we're trying to ourselves perfect to

Jesus and we say, Lord, use me. Here's my eras. What does if that we ask us to say that's

a rapid, saner rapid, of actually is a good time. The best is the post-operatorio. No,

you have to open the points. Kepte quiet. Descans, they're in him.

What is you that's you, that's desperated for sanar, those cargues to you give to

give to a God, that remueva, are just what needs to God to moldy your character there.

There are two types of of the one that us in us that creates traumas

for whose their can't enter the light and the other the other

the other the other that we confiere a carfeno that

does the capacity to be the self to the

I know I see that there's there there there's there to be ableient and he had to be

to confront the dialysis, the chemio, the caminor, the care of intensive, I know that a bit of other option that's being a other option, as to be a very part, a tripas, a corasone, a new a perid, a humiliation, and you had to respite

and have to have supered the peripal of that the voyage internal, of that the voyage desgarrador, has that we have disponged of a tendon spiritual,

magnificent. The dolor is a grand docente, it's a great docent, it is the faro that we

know from that there's a risk of imminent and that we can't chocker against the arrecifs. If we

decided we to scondern in the bodega like a polizone we're not to solution the problem

we're going to the only a possible is to go to the rumbo, alas, be a pilot of tormented, to take our lives

for the timon, to find mares more serenos, corrients more propicias, vintos more esperanzas and the apprenticeship not will be a unique, not will be it

not going to connect with the life. So, so I, I'm this morning for the first to us, to us celebrate

and honremes and we we're adjudicamos to a grand docente don't know. We're going to see sir,

thanks, because that's me brought to here, me capacity, me and he said,

we're going to honor to the master of the Lord. We're to unra with an

applause to this and it celebrate for the moments difficult like Job.

You have you ador for the moments durus? Thank you. For

the moments of the honor. Celebrate the re. Hallelujah! No, no, no, no, no. Celebrate

of a very like a great victory. Dill, Lord, thank you. Cerempa

that dole but I celebrate to God that I took to pass now. Hallelujah.

Go, go, go, go, go, celebrate the rey of Reyes, to the

seigneur to Seniors. Hallelujah. This this time this time

I've heard a secret that I'm going to a perla more before you I'm going to I'm going to the great predicator

he says that has understood to the long of the crises and the that none

of us can make to make to make sure to make sure the transition of the time that

that God determined if God says that are three months are three months

are three months of recuperation if you do you do the

or you're in a vacillade, or what it's four, five months of of post-operatorio. Nobody can achicate the time that

God dispone in the process. What we can is to do you, do you know, move to the camera and

you're saying to the time. It's three months to to get to the earth prometida. Nobody could

do so much to three months. But if they could be to be allargars to 40 years.

The time that dur is your more of what God said that has to do that it's your decision.

The dolor we're going to all, the suffering is an option. So, one has stipulated a

time, because you have set up, because me want to be that I'm that I'm that's a

longer that that's that not that's permitting in this duel. Ketka'n't you, no, you know,

there's anything you know what you know what you can't do you, no, they're not in the Lord, confia in him.

It's hard to confier in him, and yeah, a few, I see nothing, but still confiding in him. He was fiel, he no has changed, a past of your infidelity. No extir, no alergues the process

of the dolor. No, you're frieges, no you're ruining. Today you're operated, I have, I'm, I'm like, I'm, to

start what I'm, going to keep me the wands, I've got to what I think God me said that God me said that you know that you

get to your your time not stires the time come to see a God immediately consult your

medical all the prescriptions every day all the mornings if it's possible every every night

be the first that you do you do you do you do you and the

first time you know the prescription medical no no no not corras after the effect

placebo no me dole no I'm doing I'm It's really. Yes, sir, I'm

too, I'm too, I'm agustied, that's normal. Corre to the medical every

that you need to you know you know you're not you know you'll do you

do you do you see to you're to say to sanar and you you're

to sanar and you and you and day to the don't is less and it's

less and and it's and when when you when you look a negota men

and it is a a step of your life where and the life, the

is a better to find more maddu, and more solid, and more full of compassion. And, before to

criticar a parke to a person who's bad, before a bad election sexual, and before to signal to

see that different, the pain you will have made to pass for the humiliation, and you

know, and you'll understand to who think different realities, the heart is the

heart will be just a soldier who was in the war and is a he's and he has

sicker and he's he's, he's, the other people, are the men who's

menaceous of the cair religious, caskars vacas, caskars basins and

has suffered, and we've suffered, and we're going to go to the people, we're to say

amen, how you the Lord? Now we're We're going to for the perdido. We're going to the people

rot, hallelujah! Let's, go, go, go, celebrate. Celebrate the

Reyes. The rea is in house today. U. D'combe for the people,

for that all the people of the continents repitants, I'm saying, Lord Jesus,

enter in my heart, pardon, my pecals. This The oration is impressive, say,

I know, I know my name in the book of the life. Have me a new creature. Help me, Lord.

Now, hevante the hands, I'm and I'm and you also pray. We're going to ask for those

who are in house, we're going for those who are in the trance, for those who are in duels.

There are here families that literally are going to doelos. The domingo past, I'm

for a great, a great a little of our congregation that her his son was assassinated after days

and then she said, I'm so I'm not I'm saying, no I'm saying, no I'm doing more than

than I'm my mom me I'm trying to say I'm going to talk we're going to go and you go and you

do you're doing the same now with you're doing where you're in your house here I'm

I'm here I'm to come you're those who are over the world of things rotas

of things perdid, of dreams failed, for those who are to enterer with their

separate with their for those that are that's enderran with a man who

was the nostalgia of what you once and as said

that said you feel you is amputed and there

and not there and puttas and there not there what there

is psychatrisation and say the Lord I want

to Contigo, no me you'll be you're sure you I'm in an environment controlled,

you're you're in a mind you're in a ambit controlled. It's a suerterer where you're

you're you're you're in a middle of an island in the Isla Galapagos but

like the little tortugas to the puten a finton so

is how you're like you not you're in an island, you're in an

decen of the Lord will be there's to your help. No there will more cargo. No, there will

more, more the Lord of that you can't support. God knows of what you know how you're doing.

And he has deseched and he has done many times like the alfarer. But, let that the

Lord you processe. No play more, no des more things against the aghom.

Deja that God processe. Your character in the middle of the Jora as a macho,

man, a woman. And, say, the Lord, atravieso, the valley, knowing that I'm going to

go to go to other side. Dallie to God, because he, he,

he, he, he, he, he, will be a , he will

keep her the vendas after that you can't make a little, the

while, while you're at a metaphorically to that that's a mule,

that camera. You're controlled. Has heard that phrase? The

infirm is under control. He's assisted all the time. He's oxygen,

has what you do you do with your life? The Lord has

put in in care. And you think he has abandoned but

he said I put in good times. 24 hours to

I'm going to I don't to be to go to not

to go to the to the apartment to

control because I have plans and projects for you very great, says the Lord. And for that your character has to process to, for that's your temperament has to pass by the chrisole. The or has to be down and the impuresa has to be it to

keep and that ira occulted in you, that dolor occulted in you, that's a lucuria is occulted in you, to be suburbia and not you assuptes. I you're trying to refine, says the Lord.

I'm I'm trying I'm trying and say the Lord, let's the man

and come in and start to ador to do that God, give you give us for the

great master of the doctor that he is a life, in your family

in your things me says the Lord, I don't I don't you know

to get to get to be to be to be to be to be to be

I'm going to be to open puberty, I'm to give the you know

the you're a dose of reality, not you do you stupes, I'm at control, says the Lord. Have you

know that's a mountain rusa, where the children can go with a tranquillity. It's a

risk of controlled, and what you are living is under control. Cree, says the senior.

I'm I'm I'm saying, I'm I'm saying, I'm transmitted to this, your

people, what I've said, me has said, I'm going to give to house, now,

recuperation, but I know that the process has determined in some, have to continue in others, and has to

commence, also in some of those. I know that this process is for good, because the thinking of beingestar, you know, for us, and not of mal, because it's it has placid to amarn us and adoptar us, and sendan us.

Grasias, Lord, for to teach us, thanks because it's, thanks for the moments difficult. Now we declare our, Lord Jesus, that nothing regular our adoration, nor our and our legria, and our

gosso, and even we'll we're going to know that you are at control. God is sovereign. God still standing in the throne, River.

God no us demer. Bendigo your life, my friend. Bendigo your life, my friend.

Amen. Amen. And amen. Glory to Jesus. Alian has to applauded more than that that's celebrate

the rey. Di with me Lord Jesus. Fertte. Senior Jesus. Receive. this word, in the world, in the

body, in the mind in the soul, in the spirit, amen and amen, glory to Jesus. Chao, people marvellousousa, all the day

all the people of the world, chow, chao, chou. Your voice saying, a man, father,

me bivou for you and me curates of the hered my Jesus, all my

cargas last you I can't I can't comprehend I go to your dulce voice

saying one and another other yes you're welcome you're

am one and again and I another welcome to river

you are your Jesus I'm