Dante Gebel Live - El síndrome de Atenas

Episode Date: February 10, 2020

Hubo tres reacciones al sermón que Pablo predicó a los atenienses después de ver que ellos adoraban numerosos dioses. Cuando él les dijo: ‘varones vengo a anunciar al dios que ustedes no conocen...’, algunos se burlaron, otros creyeron y otros más dijeron ‘queremos saber más de ese Dios’. ¿Cuál sería tu respuesta a Pablo? ¿Te conformas con creer en el Señor o en verdad quieres conocerlo? Para conocer a Dios tienes que relacionarte con Él día a día porque Él no es sólo sanador, Él no es sólo salvador, Él no es sólo proveedor, Él es tan grande que nunca terminas de conocerlo.

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Starting point is 00:00:11 The Apostle Pablo, in a certain occasion, was Athens, to Greece, that in the world oriental, was the site of the erudits, of the philosophers, of the intellectuals, the city of Aristotel's, of Platon, of Socrates.
Starting point is 00:01:02 And there was a city that you can Google or look at Wikipedia, including, and are the photographs, because it's millenario, is a sort of foro, but is an scenario natural
Starting point is 00:01:16 or so a lot of a mountainia is a mountainia that's a mountainia that's the world to the
Starting point is 00:01:23 day of today the aureopago the are the areaopago was the site where the philosophers are to
Starting point is 00:01:30 debate the divotive to the humanity the future of the planet of the world of the
Starting point is 00:01:37 world known in that then again they were there city. One
Starting point is 00:01:42 could be a public in the area opago, where they could say if you
Starting point is 00:01:47 were you're culpably or if you're about, and they were
Starting point is 00:01:50 in those situations also the recompensas deportive atena always
Starting point is 00:01:55 was the center also of the Olympic and even the even
Starting point is 00:02:00 not they not the not the place where the people was a
Starting point is 00:02:04 cult exaservable to and also the intellect. The
Starting point is 00:02:08 thing is that that that called Areopago, was full of idols. So, it's a mountainia, and around the mountain,
Starting point is 00:02:17 jenos, of what they're divines divinus. Grecia was a city polytheist of many Dioces. They were
Starting point is 00:02:27 Dioces in the mar, Dioces of the Dioces of the fire, Dioces of the Luna. So they had
Starting point is 00:02:34 occupied to think that there were Doses in all parts. The Dioces mythological were all
Starting point is 00:02:39 represented there in that city so that's a place that if there was
Starting point is 00:02:44 a city idolatra for excellence in the world was in the city polyteist
Starting point is 00:02:52 one could find out of those deuses even to the sueger they said there was because
Starting point is 00:02:56 someone said to all the people don't want they're not fend to nobody
Starting point is 00:03:01 the greeves want to the greeves want to pablo to predicate and is grime
Starting point is 00:03:08 one of the one of the messages more magnifices never-dough in the in the history
Starting point is 00:03:16 of the humanity in the day of in Athens is written in Greek in Hebrew
Starting point is 00:03:23 and in Arameo the discourse or the sermon that Paul in that
Starting point is 00:03:28 now how how predicate that people but not the problem
Starting point is 00:03:35 that they can a lot of there's something that I have
Starting point is 00:03:38 a lot that me that the greeks, at a certain of all the gods and said, what do we
Starting point is 00:03:44 don't we'll don't know if we've been able to we've been thought we've been the gods for all, the godio, the god of the
Starting point is 00:03:52 power of the power of we're doing, we're just a mountain to sculpir but someone and what can't we don't know if
Starting point is 00:03:59 we don't we don't if we're one invisible one that's one that's for over what would be a worse
Starting point is 00:04:05 error, not to put it and then so to not met the pata, to not hurt
Starting point is 00:04:11 to nobody, they're they're in a monument, no they're
Starting point is 00:04:14 in a image but put in an inscription. He's to
Starting point is 00:04:19 know-known it. It's like, for the doubt. To the God
Starting point is 00:04:24 not known. This that seems a little a
Starting point is 00:04:28 little I because is the god not known is the
Starting point is 00:04:35 God most popular until the day to day of
Starting point is 00:04:37 today. It's the God not known, the God most known of many churches today,
Starting point is 00:04:43 although it's a world even though the God not know is the God's the God's
Starting point is 00:04:47 most known in many congregations Catholic, protestants independently of the credo.
Starting point is 00:04:53 The thing is that Paul has a strategy. Sabe how get us a time.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I'm a diorporiopago look to look at the diocene oh, that interesting this,
Starting point is 00:05:02 that's good and this soon, and he's he says that's a good
Starting point is 00:05:08 a point to predicate. So when they say, when he the
Starting point is 00:05:10 word, he says, he's that he is a period of the area
Starting point is 00:05:14 and he is the thing if it's magnificent. Look, what oratoria,
Starting point is 00:05:19 what omeletic, what grand discourse of what they're to
Starting point is 00:05:23 do you do you know, men, men, and cabers, ladies,
Starting point is 00:05:29 ladies, I've observed that you are very religiousos, grand
Starting point is 00:05:34 revelation, was in a a But I was going and looking your sanctuaries, that are very interesting, for sure,
Starting point is 00:05:45 but me called one the attention. And they were all the God of the God of the God? Who? And he said,
Starting point is 00:05:52 me called the attention in the that you called the God not-known because
Starting point is 00:05:57 just to that that you are you don't know is the that I'm to make to make
Starting point is 00:06:04 to make to announce not be to be in this phrase to God that you're and you know that's the signorah
Starting point is 00:06:15 that's the syndrome of athenas that's that's a that's a real thing is a question,
Starting point is 00:06:21 not to not to not to not to say that says that he's that I'm
Starting point is 00:06:25 talking about and I'm saying I'm the city and the earth, that no abitance people, that can't
Starting point is 00:06:32 be honrado for your men, because no needs to nobody. not they have to get them to
Starting point is 00:06:38 to get them to bring them and bring them their own their own his own he's the he'll
Starting point is 00:06:42 to give to the life and I'm so God that God that God that's
Starting point is 00:06:48 there put a few the manseh when when someone said
Starting point is 00:06:52 when he said he he's all the men and he's put a
Starting point is 00:07:01 poor. He's says that one day he will do you give him he was
Starting point is 00:07:06 giving faith of that he he gave to his son and that he was
Starting point is 00:07:09 he went to the people all this discurs general are in the
Starting point is 00:07:13 17 22 terminate the sermon he back the
Starting point is 00:07:18 escalera lateral and the bible narrs what were
Starting point is 00:07:22 the reactions there was three reactions says that
Starting point is 00:07:26 when they there was that was that was
Starting point is 00:07:30 they were they because we we we don't
Starting point is 00:07:35 not for so for that resuscite they're some they're some of
Starting point is 00:07:39 some of some of the things to get a new know of to get to get you
Starting point is 00:07:44 don't you cover in the security, darts in migrations that not they're
Starting point is 00:07:49 not they get with the coyote but never never that
Starting point is 00:07:52 resuscite between the people so they're they're we're
Starting point is 00:07:56 we're we're more of this sermon we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:08:00 we're just you picked by the curious so,
Starting point is 00:08:04 so maybe we'll invite but others say that they're and they're and the
Starting point is 00:08:09 of the other people were in the Aereopagita a woman called Ramaris and others with them
Starting point is 00:08:15 Echos 1732 to get to here the history in what what occurred
Starting point is 00:08:21 in the context historical Valga redundance what I'm me
Starting point is 00:08:25 is that that the sermon the most most most
Starting point is 00:08:28 is this question I come to talk you of
Starting point is 00:08:32 you that you and that no know them. And the question is, is possible
Starting point is 00:08:36 ador to someone without know it? If not we know we don't we don't know
Starting point is 00:08:41 why we're to do because someone would be to prepare to the children, would be to do you
Starting point is 00:08:50 to an church to an god that is a god and you know, not you
Starting point is 00:08:56 know, the people, that's the church and never never had a
Starting point is 00:09:01 encounter real with God. You say, I believe in God, but creer not is the same than to know to know. Creeing in him, no, you can't change the life. Saber that exists a God, no can't change your life when really you have access.
Starting point is 00:09:16 When, as, as, all the relations are in movement, the relations human, and the relations divinies. No, there's a relation like, well, I just want to this person, and if I'm change of opinion, I'll say it.
Starting point is 00:09:29 every, all the days those days, they want more or you're more, or you're more or
Starting point is 00:09:34 less asercamient the relations are in moving, and Pablo, says, if you knowces to God,
Starting point is 00:09:41 you know to get to you know to get a day, so that every you know
Starting point is 00:09:45 more or you know more. Juan 15 15 relata what said the Lord,
Starting point is 00:09:49 I don't I'm not let's say Cervos because the sierbo
Starting point is 00:09:52 no does the he's I'm to call am my father, I've
Starting point is 00:10:00 given to know, not is marvellous that the Lord says, not is my serbo, a type
Starting point is 00:10:04 that just he's that he's a person, I'm that's a person who's to know me,
Starting point is 00:10:11 to know us, we're going to have to some some of some of some mursos, we're going to
Starting point is 00:10:17 have to dormit together, we're going to have to have ventures for equal,
Starting point is 00:10:22 to the part, because of that you're that's to be a sure you that just
Starting point is 00:10:26 limit to obey order but you going to be my friend, when you
Starting point is 00:10:30 know you know you never you're a friend you're a friend a person
Starting point is 00:10:34 in a person who is a person is a person all of all the
Starting point is 00:10:41 city put us one a Santa Anna or Anahen
Starting point is 00:10:43 this those we've in the city of the services public
Starting point is 00:10:47 of Anahe the water of gas of the light of the
Starting point is 00:10:52 barrido of the barrida of the I mean, all the
Starting point is 00:10:55 that a city can't do you do you do you you can't you can't
Starting point is 00:10:59 do you do you do you do you a person who should be a citizen indocumentate
Starting point is 00:11:07 indocumentated what you do that the question is you know you know you know the general, you
Starting point is 00:11:15 know the alcalde me says no no no me has no it's all
Starting point is 00:11:17 to do all the you know you can't you can't you're right but not when it
Starting point is 00:11:21 when it's the things of the God. The Christian cultural is that's the culture, live of the city, but one
Starting point is 00:11:28 knows to God. Then are those who live in the record. Vivir of is marvellousous when you have to bring the
Starting point is 00:11:35 record to present. So I'm going to put it so. Facebook us permit to encounter with the school primary.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And so he's just he's really to say someone in the social and he says, what's
Starting point is 00:11:47 he put the name, I said, I'm put the companyero in the school primary. And I see your
Starting point is 00:11:52 photo and I said, and then why you have the photo of the father? I go, okay, this is the father. I see a pelon, a gordotie, a little cat, and I was like the tortoise and I was like, and I was like, and I was just a friend.
Starting point is 00:12:11 This, that said, being my friend, was the most popular, had his cabellito large, to us we're just out of Chernobyl, to him, had his cabo long, he was a man,
Starting point is 00:12:21 was a man, the chica of the school primary, and they were, I said, why would you put the photo of the Papa? And then I discover that not is the Papa, what is he? That's him? That a
Starting point is 00:12:31 man, called Vida, he passed by and then he'll say, he'll say the same. That's what when the life is going to be passed and when we're getting a marrised to a record. And not is the same that the present,
Starting point is 00:12:47 the same happens with the barrios. When we're to our old barrio and we want to carisiar those old perros, encounter them with the chinole of the
Starting point is 00:12:55 and everything is rumored, there's graffiti in the paredes that were the blue of the point, I'm going to be the house of
Starting point is 00:13:00 my parents and I'm going how here I'm able to arm anormous autopistas with autoes to collection?
Starting point is 00:13:06 How here could say, oh, I'm to play in all the house, and I'm going to be here
Starting point is 00:13:11 to be here, I'm going to have played here. Someone encogued the house, and he said,
Starting point is 00:13:16 no, nobody he got, no, nobody pasas, and all the terms of
Starting point is 00:13:21 the barrio, and in terms of people, and in terms of in a beavelier extraordinary for 40 years. But not in terms spiritual.
Starting point is 00:13:29 When you do you fervras a little of God, of what you did you know, that's the
Starting point is 00:13:34 time that you have been, the record maybe that great, but he's a little, but you've
Starting point is 00:13:40 been a thing, and that's patetic, you know? People that someone
Starting point is 00:13:44 had had a time, and they've been the echo of what some was the
Starting point is 00:13:48 one of God. And when when you do you the you, you know, the marvellous
Starting point is 00:13:53 present, because you say, you know, I know how looks a God. No see how he's about today, I know
Starting point is 00:14:02 how I'm talking about before I'm when I was a little bit of that he's what I'm what is the
Starting point is 00:14:09 God? Do you know? You know, in the heavens? You know, in the angels and
Starting point is 00:14:14 they're saying, oh, he's been on, intercedient and the oration the oration is up
Starting point is 00:14:16 again. The Spirit Santa and has to interceder for you with one and other
Starting point is 00:14:24 other or only you know's a God? Because you because you're going because recorres
Starting point is 00:14:27 the patio but never entered to see a very but you're the obligation to know
Starting point is 00:14:32 God if you're you're you're other so you do you do you
Starting point is 00:14:38 do you to do you don't you know I'm going to that you know you you know
Starting point is 00:14:42 you know I'm I'm not my case I'm know so I know to
Starting point is 00:14:50 I can serve to be so you don't I like when I
Starting point is 00:14:53 like when I start to ask them I'm going to be in the church, but that I'm going to be
Starting point is 00:14:58 going to get to serve, because there's a change of the church. It's like that I'm
Starting point is 00:15:04 like it's, but not the way to make it's to make a commitment. No, me pithas
Starting point is 00:15:09 that has to have to certain compromisos that I want to prefer to be a
Starting point is 00:15:14 Christian nominal, like the man, the paralitical of the temple. That,
Starting point is 00:15:19 like they're in the the door says all the what is what what
Starting point is 00:15:22 what happens that's out also to consider a inconverso.
Starting point is 00:15:27 But not the sufficient as a kind of a person. Now,
Starting point is 00:15:31 how we know if we have to know to know to our
Starting point is 00:15:36 the mandam because the he says Juan but
Starting point is 00:15:40 he he's a mean he he's a bad
Starting point is 00:15:45 when you don't know you know you know
Starting point is 00:15:48 when you know when you not you know You, in reality,
Starting point is 00:15:53 segued to other Dioces, and were slaves of those Dioces. But now that you know a God, or more well,
Starting point is 00:16:01 that God knows, to you know, how is that you want to return to the old life inefica?
Starting point is 00:16:08 How is that are you want to be a clavos? In other words, Pablo, says to
Starting point is 00:16:11 Galacia, you know, you know, but not the sufficient, as to make the the old
Starting point is 00:16:16 life the for so for to know if one really really has
Starting point is 00:16:20 an encounter with God, we'd have we should ask us what are the names that you knows? How do you call you?
Starting point is 00:16:27 Papi, did one. How does it God, God, Lord, Lord, Lord,
Starting point is 00:16:32 Lord, Jesusua, because he likes to speak to in Greek, or in Hebrew.
Starting point is 00:16:37 What are the numbers? How are you? You know, you're not you're going to say it. What is the
Starting point is 00:16:41 way in the way in you're the way in the way that you know the way that you
Starting point is 00:16:49 never he's not you'll terminus to know every every every person he's
Starting point is 00:16:53 he's he's all he's not a little sonador he not he's only he's
Starting point is 00:16:59 so great that never you never you know that that's the mystery
Starting point is 00:17:04 of the religion to come to to know to
Starting point is 00:17:08 you know to you know you know I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:17:12 I'm present that is because you know because you want
Starting point is 00:17:14 you because it's there That I don't know that's that's I've revealed
Starting point is 00:17:22 how do you want to know to know to know God, say that's a man. How's the
Starting point is 00:17:29 question? How he's he's called? Because a many of you're going to you're also,
Starting point is 00:17:37 well, also conform God's he's always in the same distance. You hear
Starting point is 00:17:42 his voice clear or you're you're but you're you're you're
Starting point is 00:17:45 you're you can't you you know, you know you know you're in the same way to get in the
Starting point is 00:17:54 same place. I'm sorry. No, I'm not you hear you, I'm not I'm not to scoge you
Starting point is 00:17:59 get you. You're a little bit. You know, and you call? Because I remember when I was a
Starting point is 00:18:08 serbo. At the first it was a serbby a god that had sanated to my mom
Starting point is 00:18:13 sufficient as much to like to the service. God me gave 40 years
Starting point is 00:18:17 a mom that was a man who was seven years when mom she'd moria,
Starting point is 00:18:22 God he'd be a 40 years, I've got to the eternity. Sufficient reason for that I'm not
Starting point is 00:18:28 I'm sure not even nothing. I need to know of theology, of hermeneutica, of omeletic, nor the
Starting point is 00:18:32 Cavis. God, a mom, Papa, was an alcoholic and is a real real still still.
Starting point is 00:18:40 That's sufficient as for that I serve to the Lord. But I came to the year and
Starting point is 00:18:46 he was a year, and he came to call a friend, and because I started to know his
Starting point is 00:18:51 secretos, I know his suspicions, and a day I'm to call a little, Mete a
Starting point is 00:18:58 pata. Inverguenza. Mom, me said all those things. But with an love,
Starting point is 00:19:06 with a carinio, said there's a man that the cabo of Napoleon in a
Starting point is 00:19:12 certain occasion he was a man, he was a recluta without
Starting point is 00:19:16 that nobody to the most minimum order and he brought the
Starting point is 00:19:20 cabo, of the king of a recluta a a good,
Starting point is 00:19:24 a man, Napoleon at a pen bear to be to be with the cario
Starting point is 00:19:27 he's thank you and the soldier and he's put up and he said,
Starting point is 00:19:33 he went to the barracas he took his uniform
Starting point is 00:19:37 of recluta and he came for the then
Starting point is 00:19:41 he did you do the no he said the answer
Starting point is 00:19:45 the that's the first that was the stadium. I went to
Starting point is 00:19:51 the night of December of December of the year of 1996. And when I came to
Starting point is 00:19:57 the man said, I'm done he done, I'm going to, and the always, and he's that God
Starting point is 00:20:22 says, yes, Pescador and Mundo. So is how you you're you're
Starting point is 00:20:24 you're you're you need you need to know to know your your
Starting point is 00:20:31 your form to order revela how you know what you know we're we're
Starting point is 00:20:36 to come to let's do you know a question a question obviously
Starting point is 00:20:42 but need that they want to the amount to
Starting point is 00:20:44 how they have done on God have how
Starting point is 00:20:47 of those you have done you not not
Starting point is 00:20:52 not not not do you do you do a hei de ungida. Oh, all. Well, no predicate more then, then
Starting point is 00:20:57 you know, for what I'm going to tell? Yeah, it's all to God. Because there's people who say, Pastor,
Starting point is 00:21:04 and we're going to me. And we're going, so, sir, that's the cancer of we're not, he's not.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And then you're to be a lot. For you, for you know, the form in the order. You know, you're going to
Starting point is 00:21:23 the story fascinating of a pastor that he did a congregation that he had to be a corerer
Starting point is 00:21:30 to the corner of the door to we're in all the chere the crows, and the
Starting point is 00:21:36 pastor was so enojored with the dwean of the bar that was the house
Starting point is 00:21:41 and put this liquorerer yeah he put in the loco the doone the
Starting point is 00:21:44 the boy the one day there a torment electric and it a fire and incendial
Starting point is 00:21:49 the bar what is the is the is the story is the is very
Starting point is 00:21:53 this This is the only place in the only place where you can't do you the dwee the dwee
Starting point is 00:21:57 demand to the pastor and the church by the rio is the in the
Starting point is 00:22:04 jurisprudence it can you can in the presidents judiciales you can you can
Starting point is 00:22:10 demand to a pastor so you know to start you a new a rio you
Starting point is 00:22:15 so so so the judge took the the judge
Starting point is 00:22:22 and the pastor and the pastor he said no they can demand
Starting point is 00:22:27 for my or for our ouration or for our ouration, God has done that we're not ever we're ever we're doing
Starting point is 00:22:34 something. And the judge said, no I'm I'm think I'm a man, I'm a man,
Starting point is 00:22:40 that's the power of the oration and a pastor that he's a person, so you
Starting point is 00:22:54 go to work, you're like you're like when it you're not you're not you
Starting point is 00:23:00 don't be surprised, God, no! And if we're we're not, we're not,
Starting point is 00:23:03 we know we're we're, we're not I'm surprised much. For so we're not in the church to take testimony to
Starting point is 00:23:12 what's the oh, what's in serious? Oh, do you know, if God, if you're that's an
Starting point is 00:23:22 you're going to you're going to put you. Then we're like, like we're we do you do it,
Starting point is 00:23:26 that's our God, that's our God, that's God, God has a miracle. Anyone has to say amen.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I'm too I'm also of you think that that in the the sky there were certain
Starting point is 00:23:47 places for example, pastors, no? That God said, pass the ovegerio
Starting point is 00:23:51 meh, those pastors expect that are more near the throne. And that
Starting point is 00:23:58 there were there other people, there are there people, that the ministers,
Starting point is 00:24:04 we're not to come to come to the rest, that the world there's there's
Starting point is 00:24:06 there's there's there's something. I said, it's to do you know that he
Starting point is 00:24:12 has the pastors, his maestro, those evangelists, those behas. And then discover I'm not an
Starting point is 00:24:20 evangelist, nor pastors, no beheas. Well, they're not not quite not quite not much
Starting point is 00:24:22 but they're that's all all the world to enter, that's not that's all the same altitude.
Starting point is 00:24:32 All we're we're not. Or we adoramous a God without a God and if you
Starting point is 00:24:41 know it then maybe not there's there. Precupation is to know day-a-day.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Me, I'm surprised to find me with certain religiousos that they're a part of God, and
Starting point is 00:24:57 defiant the trance to that God that they're in a carita. This is God,
Starting point is 00:25:01 so it's God. God, they're the molde always, since that I'm
Starting point is 00:25:06 like a man, and then he's going, and then he's all right and to
Starting point is 00:25:13 the religiousos that he's to have a God in a in a carita in a
Starting point is 00:25:16 no, no, it's a just a second the the buttones that's the what's function.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Pongue a offrend, I prosper. I adore the dominoes, I'm an evangelical, this is God pecc, and
Starting point is 00:25:26 you condemn it, you repent, and this is God. That's not God. You know to God? No, because
Starting point is 00:25:32 you've learned the Bible of memory, because not even this book sacred, could contain
Starting point is 00:25:37 a God. Dicent the evangelists, no can write all what has done, because no
Starting point is 00:25:43 can't the books of the world. If not the world to contain what
Starting point is 00:25:47 what did Jesus, You think that will He's that's over the new to the new
Starting point is 00:26:17 to presentment to contain a God? And for that's called to come to us. The God that's not. You know, the God that's not. You know, the God? no has, pardon of God. And you go out of the church and you
Starting point is 00:26:24 say, I'm etchered and Jesus and I'm done back. He's God. He's God. You know's? That's fascinating.
Starting point is 00:26:36 No, they're going to enter to the ministry. God, and say, me too. Only they're
Starting point is 00:26:40 to be used the manual of instruction. Never in the Rehner. Church. The church.
Starting point is 00:26:47 God is not a congregation that knows to God. He's going to be reflected in your eyes, in
Starting point is 00:26:52 your rostro, in your manner to come down, to say, accept the desire to do you?
Starting point is 00:26:57 Do you? I'm going to talk to let's, in the area opago of the
Starting point is 00:27:02 century 21, to God that many do you don't know without but God
Starting point is 00:27:10 will be your ignorance. You know know that took them good intentions
Starting point is 00:27:14 just just for coming at the nine the but
Starting point is 00:27:17 today you decide how they can with some of the three reactions that were in Athens
Starting point is 00:27:22 saying, me interest, maybe you want to know more , burlantic or saying, yes, I want to create
Starting point is 00:27:29 in that God. If you say, I want to this God and you're in this last group, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:27:34 put you to put your to get to get the hand the Lord, revelam what I
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Starting point is 00:27:49 You can't say to the Lord, I know if you know, much, but I want to know more.

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