Dante Gebel Live - Iglesia de imperfectos
Episode Date: February 10, 2020La iglesia debería ser el lugar donde las personas tengan la confianza de admitir que han fallado; debería ser un lugar seguro donde poder compartir defectos, fracasos y adicciones sin caretas y sin... fingimiento, como hizo Pablo a los corintios, al hacer alarde de sus debilidades; sin embargo la mayoría de los que asisten a las iglesias se llenan de posturas para parecer perfectos. Ser auténticos y transparentes no es fácil, hace falta más valentía para tratar de dejar de impresionar a los demás y despojarse de las vestiduras reales –como hizo David-, que para enfrentar un gigante. Tratemos de ser auténticos en todo lo que hacemos, porque la autoridad y la sana estima siempre devienen de la autenticidad.
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He said the famous actor, or he said the famous actor, Budi Allen,
I thought that being alone was the worst that you could pass.
But the worst not is that,
but it's not that's arounded of people and still,
because the soledity is a sentiment,
independently of that is surrounded of rosters-known.
And I think that much people get to our churches,
gets to our congregation
looking a
word of comfort,
a word of
a word of
a word of
a lot of
the first
and one of
the great
reasons for
the way
that people
have an
idea
that's the
church is the
church
is that
is a
place that's
a place
that's
that's
that's
and that
and it
to come
to come
perfected
are their
people.
And then
the church
is the
place where
spanta
to the
they think they
they're not
have the
same hygiene
spiritual than
the rest.
Figgins it's
a contrassentive
is a
fallacy.
It's like
I go
always,
not care
to get to
a hospital
because we
say I'm
definitely
I'm going to
contaminate or
to contagion
to the
medical.
It's not
to go to
a place
necessarily
of what
what we
think we
we're going
that we're
that we're
going to
work
that's
the church
should be
the
place where
the people
admit,
admit we've
said that we've
failed and for
that's the
we're in
a church,
it should be
this in a
place a
place
comfortable,
where we can
share our
defects,
where we can
talk about
our fracos,
of our
debilities,
of our
necessities,
of our
addictions,
and it
should be this
the city
where we
can't be
what we
are the
we're not,
the place
and not the
place where we
are very
cool, very nice
or spiritual
because
that that,
you know,
ladies and
is the religion,
full of postures,
of poses,
that the majority
repeal.
That is the problem
that the
people have
with God,
that no it
with God,
but with the
religion.
And,
of that
fact, that
fact of
to be what
we're not
so much,
has that
the people
not with
a lot of
the
Christians,
has that
we're looking
with a
doubt,
because the
function of
the
our function is
restore the
lives that
have been
that have been
brokened,
that have
been in the
way of the
time, and
that's
those are the
encounters
of Jesus
with the
leaders religious
of the
people, with
those phariceos.
O'Gern
these words
and preston
attention if
a case not
to be
what God
today is
talking.
In one of
the
other of the
other
says the
Lord and
I'm saying
in San Juan
539.
You're
studying with
indiligency, the scriptures.
Because they're thinking
that in them
there's
there's a
life eternal.
And are they
are they
that they're
not in
my favor.
So,
but you're
not going to
come to me
to have
that they're
that.
So,
so the
Pharisees
uned
the nars
in the
scriptures,
the rules
and the
norms
sagrated,
runes
in the
words of
the
religion and
ignorable
to Jesus
that they
had
they're
they
they're
they're
they
they
they're
And as Jesus
us
or as he
said to the
Pharisees
that we'll
much less
and we'll
we'll
we're in
we're doing
to get us
to the
word,
the word,
the
we're doing we
do we're
we're trying to
get to
get to the
church
and immediately
tap
our errors.
That's
it's a
sub-consient
to create
tap our
errors,
it's
the wurto of
the Edend
to tap
our desnude
with
a hoja
of par
we're
we're
we're
tap our
parts
desnudas
not we want us
that we're
that we're
those
those are the
we're trying to
the world that
it's not really
the angelio
that we're
talking about,
you're saying
how is that
the people are
that's
not I
don't I
should be
about my
victories
maybe
if we
don't understand
what the
word
contextually
us
mean,
listen
the Apostol
Paul,
will
let them
to hear
this
morning
the
Lord
the Lord
he
said
that
me
that I
have
that
with
the
gracia.
I mean
he said
his
power
is perfection
in my
debilidad
for
so I
will be
to be
a rard
of my
debilities
are you
are you
are
what
says
Pablo?
I'm
to do
I'm
reading
the
card
that
Paul
he says
he
says he
says
he's
he
says
I'm
to make
alard of
my
defectors
in
me to
occultals
those
those I will
publicar,
those going to
to count to
the four
vintos
for that
for me
the power of
Christ.
For that I
regosy
in the
debilities,
in the
insults,
in the
privations,
in the
persecutions,
in all
the things
I suffer
for Christ
because
when I
think I'm
so
I'm
so I'm
so
and one
and one
is
the last
words,
that
when I
think
when I'm
this
that Paul
says
I'm
say
I'm
to be
a
hard of my
debilities
He not is saying,
I'm going to
I'm going to
the plasas
that I'm going to
I'm going to
I'm going to tell
hey,
I'm this
devility.
What I'm saying
Pablo is
is not I'm
going to talk
what are my
problems
for that the
people be
that a
past of my
problems,
a
past of my
discapacities
or of my
anomalies
spirituales
God
God me
still
amando
and me
still using
of the
there
there's
a verse
Bible
in the
version
paraphrase
of the Bible, the message in English,
that I love,
of Matthew 5.3,
that says,
your benition
is when you
has got to
the point of
limit.
When there's
there's more
of you, then there's
where God
finally,
it's just that
can do the
miracle-and-
when you're
a disaster.
Not I'm
not talking
of a
bad-estim,
because the
back-estim is
so peccado
as the
person.
One has
to know who
is in the
Lord.
None,
says the
word, says, the
word,
the word,
the word,
the
more
more
a
other
the same
of the
thing
you have
to have a
good
concept of
you know
not you
not you
not
not create the
topon of the
cucarach
of the
ecosystem
of the
ecosystem
human
but
so
you know
you have
you have
a
concept
that you
mean
I'm
this
debilities
no
so you
do this
not you
do this
but
look in
what I'm
that
I'm
so I'm
so I'm
so
that's
one
has
you
know you
know
that
what is,
even in what
we're doing
to do you
don't know
so when you
go to prayical
to someone
say you're
I'm going to
talk to make
to say you're
going to be
you're going to
do you know
to do it
you know what
you're going to
my
same California
that you
live in the
marriage I'm
married in the
marriage I'm
like you're
like the
same you
the same
the same
the same
woman but
then you're the
well but
you know what
but you
I'm very happy, I'm gozoosos,
if there are things that me
quested, but when I
think I'm going to west
to the difference
your, that's
only, it's
God, he'll be
with me, and
God and I
are we most
we're a majority.
God, we
are much more
than the rest.
Someone has
to say, amen.
I'll tell this
story, but
I want this story, but
I want to
take two or
three minutes
to record her.
Let me
to describe it
in the
scene.
It was the
good moment
of David.
The
The best moment of the
Ray David,
his best moment,
his popularity
was in ascendencia.
Not was a
president-electo,
was a rea,
ungid, but
even so I
gozaba of the
benedestit
of all the
nation, of
Israel, had
been derotado
the Philisteos,
had brought
a nation,
had captured
the fortress of
Zion, and
as if it
was a little
he'd
a ark to
Jerusalem.
The ark
typificable
the presence
of God,
which had
had given to
Moises
in the
travesia
of the desert.
He was like
a little
he's not
he's got,
he's a
house,
what he does
a question
of a
person to do
a person,
to the
people,
to the
nation,
it's
a house,
there's
electricity
in the
environment
because it's
a
celebration
that's
unusual,
ined
uned
the
forces
military
of David
have
all
the
intersections,
the
the
can't
the
defile military, the
Infanteria
of David
is defilar
to be defilar
with the
ark,
the francotirators
apostated on
the parts
most high
of the
torres
for some
eventuality
that could
be a
never a
local,
but it was
the
entry to
the rea
to the
capital,
a reputation
to protect
a
a coroner,
a status
quo,
of which
all the
nations
have to
all the
world will
to be
that
all the
defile
and David
he
he's
all
all
the
In a moment, David
is already
he said the protocol.
Nobody saw,
a rubour general,
he abhorred
of the multitude,
a verguenza general,
because David
begins to dance
like a
little bit more.
David
starts literally to
do so pure.
Seniors and
there are inivisions
when he does
when he doesn't
see he gets
well, if he
doesn't get a
kind, how he
gets the car,
all the
Exile, the angustia,
I want to go
with this dance
catarctic, that
I'm going to
do with a
dance and he's
and he's a
man, nobody
see to be
come, is the
re.
That's the
protocol.
He rompio
the protocol
real.
And Mikal,
Mikal, the
daughter of
David,
knows the protocol.
She knows
that a rye
can't be
so.
So,
so they're
the plebeyes.
What do you?
No plebello.
No,
the plebello.
It's
The slaves are the slaves with more dignity.
Not a king.
Mikal is the his of a rea.
It's the daughter of his son.
And then, he says something to his
as well,
I know much about recesses
recent electors,
entrances of arc or
defiles triumfales,
but I see of protocols real
because my father he was.
He never,
he never he was in paos
menorers,
and doing the ridicule.
He said,
that at enter, David,
he said,
and when he
he was
he was
he was
he was
he was
he went
and he
he was
he did a
he
he's a
and you
desprecise a
person a
one one
one desprecy
two times
the second
best the
most probable
is that
that person
has
had serrated
his
person has
to be sure.
You can
admire or
desprecate
to someone
and his
wife Michael
despise
a David
for what
is doing. But God
a
autenticity, and the
people, in
conversa,
am a lot of
the autenticity.
That is what
we're the
politicians.
That's what
we're exigigued
to the
conductors of
television.
That's what
we're exigued
to a
person, that
is an
real realtor of
God that much
non-ugniumed
we,
we know, we
know, we
when this
woman,
see the
authenticity of
your spouse,
says,
I don't see
I want to
have a
person
an spouse
authentic.
A me
I like more
to play
to the
realese.
I like
more
to come in
the revista
caras
not you
know,
but if you
I'm
really a
defective,
I'm
back to
Paul.
Pablo
said,
me going to
present to
say,
because that
glorified
God,
I'm
here the
point,
Chato,
said the
Apostol
cantinfla.
There's
the point.
There's
we're not,
we're not,
we're not
we're not
how we're
the glory
is the
God,
and no
there
applause for
us.
And if the
glory
is it
is the
God,
if the
people
start
about
of God
not you,
and
that's the
thing
of
the
truth.
The
fact
of
authenticityity
is a
thing
that you
not
see
not
me be
that I
don't
say,
it's
preferable
to
get
to
give
the
people,
you
make
you know
to
do you
do
you
put you
And time or
no, the people
will notar
the people
not when you
a problem
of esteem,
when you
when you
when you're
when you're
not in this
house,
it's because
not you
don't you
don't you
don't you
don't you
you're gonna
you're gonna
you're gonna
mickal
not only
he's
he's stil
sarcasm
that's
distinguished
the reid
the reid
Israel. David
comes in
Suddard and
when he
said he
saying, I
think he
distinguished,
he's
looking at
looking for the
window,
like a
any kind of
playing in
presence of
the clavas
of his
officials,
and David
he la
flimina
with the
mind,
well the
Bible
not says
that
does it
does he
that
David
flumino
with the
mind,
and she
was just
just taking
a
photo
for Instagram.
That
distinguished,
now
I'm going,
that
he
in presence of the
Lord,
that in best
to goger
to your
father,
look,
ironic,
irony with irony
with irony,
with God,
in bed,
to choose God,
to God,
to be the
other of
the family,
of your
father,
that is what
would
would be
because
never
a re
to another
king,
and not
have the
same
this is the
first time.
God
could have
ever
ever
to be
a
family,
me,
he's
he's
a man,
and me
he's
Governante of Israel, and
casually, Israel is the
Pueblood,
so my dear Michael,
while you take the
maleta to mandator,
I'm going to
continue to be
playing in presence
of the Lord,
because the
Lord me
brought up here.
Hallelujah!
Because,
look, the
vestigures
typical were the
identity of the
rey, like
the hueso'
clerical of
a sacerdote,
for example,
you say,
wow,
it's a father,
or the uniform
of an officer
of a officer,
or the
placas of a
police, the robes
were a symbol of
the position social.
And David
not found his
identity in the
realese.
David
not he
important about the
reality,
in adorer
to God.
He not
had his identity
in the
fact of
being a
right.
He,
his identity
was based
in ador
to be
the reyes.
For
so you can
to get the
the
roba of
the right
in the
world.
That's
did the
man,
that gets
to get to
a
a sena and
he's put
to clean to
lavar the
feet of the
disciples.
When
they say
you know
you can
do you can
do this
that's
reserved for the
most
the first
the
general
the sir
respond with
chururricular
wisdom
oh you
hear
this
this
is marvell
I'm
I'm
where I'm
to be
I'm
I'm
I'm
to where
I'm
to be
to be
to
you know
you're
to be
so
where you
you're
where you
you
or,
or,
or,
trying to
your
life,
you're going
to be
someone who's
someone who
is a lot of
and it's
degastante.
And if
you know
you know,
where you're,
worse,
is of stress.
But when
you know,
he's,
he was,
he was,
he was,
he was,
he was
saying,
no,
I'm
in the
people,
I'm
to be in the
mountains,
and I'm
put the
oceanos
in the
water,
and I,
with
these,
I'm,
to laver. So,
so I mean,
no,
it's me
in the
alliances
for lavarsel
all.
All the
contrary,
I'm
being being
God.
Fabriott.
What are
your
vestigurances
real?
What are
the
robes
in the
that
you
assigns
identity?
And not
I'm
I'm
in
terms of
geners,
tel.
What is
the coroner
that you
put you
identity?
And if
that
coroner
is
a
one?
You need
to
you
say, doctor, licensed, pastor,
Ujir,
brother,
because if not
you're not,
you're sure,
so,
it's a bit,
that's a
thing,
that you think,
that's,
that you're,
because they're
in your country,
and because they're
in your country,
and you,
don't know,
you're not,
doctor, to
you're,
to do you
do you,
I don't say,
I'm a pastor,
and so I
say it's a
shock,
you're a pastor,
no,
I do,
I do,
I do,
I do
pastor when
the time
that God
I'm in the
time that God
I'm a
God, I'm
Dante Gavell
I'm
a pastor
conductor of
television,
author of
my
hand be the
sombrero
conformed
God
wants to
me
can be
but my
identity
not is
assigned
by the
profession
or for the
job
and much
less the
name
me can
assign
identity
and the
name
has to
have to
have
to be
with the
thing to
now
if I
I said, no, it's that
me called
a God
that's
a manned,
but every
every time
that I'm
a new God
that's unge
asses,
I'm not
a prostitutes,
that the other
was an
embustero,
when I
when I
know the
when I
know the
more,
more
that I'm
going to
think that
I'm the
exception.
God
was who
inunded
a David
as a
man,
and he
is the
that is the
don't
don't
to
each one
of
us
but
a
a
other
the don't
can
be able to
that's
more
important
than the
that's
that we're
when the
thing is
when the
realtor
because that's
that's
there's
there's
there's
we're not
we're
in the
question,
this is the
question,
express the
other
the world,
but
to look to
a pastor
and say
look,
I'm
I'm trying
to
look you
the good, the
bad and the
thing
are the
people,
but
all the
churches
in
all
or the majority
we're
in the
robage
real.
We put us
a rope
real
for that
not discover
what we
don't
because the
authority
is always
of the
authenticity
and I
have
discovered
that the
authenticity
not
not that
not is
that I
don't
I'm
I'm
because he
he
also
a
generation
those
children
and
those
my
people
you know
what you
do
a political, in a
in a documentary, in the
people, in the friends,
and even in their future
a pair of,
you know,
know what he's
an authenticity?
You know,
that chick,
that chick,
that's a chick,
I mean,
me, I'm
very fingida.
You know,
no, it's very
plastic,
oh, la,
how much,
how you go?
To me,
that no,
doesn't get
to the
brain, because
look,
what is,
pure muscle.
What's
got to
cut the muscle
and put it
on the
gril.
So,
if the
leaders,
we're
transparent,
it's,
it's create
a culture
authentic.
If we're
we'll
thinked,
it's create
a culture
of occultamintamint,
of hypocrisies
that's
that's
can't
to be
a guy,
he's trying
to be the
same,
and there's
a
thing for the
that's
more
more
more than
to be
more than
to be
a
because if we
we're
we're trying
to be
all the
people,
this is
I'm
this is I
am,
So, so I'm
And you have to be
valiant for
to be able to
do you
know,
you know,
what people
or ought authentically
ante the
Lord?
I mean,
I see those
I'm going to
hear of the
food,
and be in
some of orations
that Paul
Coelho
would bea
to bea
to bea
God
eternal,
we're in
a misdance
to make
to make a
coinonia
with this
you cyro
to have
brought to
you're
to share
to share
to
the
community.
I just
I don't
this is
no, this is
what we
we're going
to be
what we
to eat.
For
so I
say I'm
more sinceres
between the
parades of an
hospital than
between the
walls of
an
church.
There are
actions
more authentic
on the
graham
recently
that the
cemeterio
than
on the
carpetas and
the alfomber of the
people,
we don't know
because we're
we're going to
do phrases,
we're done
of postura
I think
that's
we're not
authenticity and
we're doing
nothing to
nobody.
At the final
of the day
I prefer
that I'm
for what
I'm in
for what I'm
for what
I'm in
because if
they're
after they're
in the
fatchats
is going to
get to
be decolm
like a
castillo
of a
place.
So I
prefer you
I'm
that I'm
that's
for what I'm
that's right
that's
it's right
to try
to try to
to try to
to
to
try to
the
vestigurances
to the
a giant.
It's an instinct
ancestral that
does that we
cover us with
auburned
with the
desnudees emotional.
I mean,
I have a
theory.
It's my
theory.
Not I don't
say a
theory an
ancestral,
nor that
they're
in the
seminars,
it's a
time,
I,
I,
I, that
I know
much of
theology,
but I
know much
of the
people,
I can
affirmar
that I
think this
theory
has a
29%
of credibility.
My theory
is
that,
while the
things
you're more
you're more
you're more
propens to
have more
more problems
of identity
the more
the things
in all the
areas
as a year
that more
more
car,
while that's
better
car car
you're
a major
problem
of identity
you're
because
it's
more
more easy
to fundamental
your
identity
in things
incorrect.
In
instead of
your
grace
to
God
you,
you
you're
in your
aspect
external
in your
career,
in
your
in your
money,
because
you're
designed to
adorer.
Here not
it's not
if you're
to do you.
All we're
we're not.
Because,
since we
know,
we're
we're
when we're
when we
we're
we're we.
The thing is
to who
or who
adoramus?
There are
the money,
there's who
adorren the
credit.
I've
had been
people to
my side,
other's
adoring to
the
other people
we're
we're talking
a
I was a Argentine that said,
I'm,
I'm going to
invite to
eat a
eat a
pasta.
I don't
need to go
to come,
because he
was going to
the problems
of esteem
and identity.
When the
people adored
what you
know what
not mean,
the
this is a
theory
too is my
that's a
idea that's
that's
the defile
and he was
the rei.
It was
in his
major moment
of the
popularity.
Not it
a moment
where I
had to
to do a
look
or an
eccentricity
to get in
the
portals
to be in the
phyllis
the philisteos
had recaptured
the city
of the
city of yon
had
had brought
the ark
of the
king
was he
was he
not only
because
portable
a coronas
but he
loved
all the
those women
and all
the men
were all
they were
to be
still
they were
everyone
were the
superero
of the
children
was the
men were
with a
jerno, for
the
jerno,
for the
so when David
enter,
I think
he perceives
that the
ovation
he's going
to be
he's
he's
the
thing that
he's
he's the
thing,
is,
quaterse
the
the
clothes
in the
clothes
in the
in the
men,
that's
that much,
that much
to get
he was
he was
loco
and
make the
people
adore
what you
have to
do you
the
presence
of
God,
and
a
simple
rake
without
robes
is
a
a
in
Calzone
Those are
Those are
Homes and
Women in
Calones
What are you
In calzone
Sin the fash
With the
With the
You know
You're
You're
With the
Other
Without the
With the
With the
With the
What are?
That's
That's what
Is that
David
He's saying
To the
People
This is
Today
If you
They're
Adolars
For simply
A Vestimement
For
You
Adolus
You
constructing a
castle
of Naipes,
a house
over the
arena,
and tard
and there
is there
in the
desplomeming
if you
know,
you're
you're in the
job, and
you're
you're
and you
do you
doorme's,
school,
work and
notrimoion
are very
poor
to fund
your
identity.
For
so there's a
mix of
a
joy when
we're
we're doing
when we're
there's
there's
there
no,
no,
you know
if you're
you're
always,
you're
I'm
Yeah, but also there's
some of
some of the
reason, no
know what you,
but so it's
when you're moving
to a country,
you're going to
a country more, and
you're in
alexe's
because,
you know,
you can't
fundamental,
no,
no goso
in something
in an
alliance that
you portas or
in a
paper that
they're
because your
security
fluctua.
The security,
what you
maintain
firm, is
that your
identity
is in Christ
saying,
I'm a
man in
calzone
like David
and
when a
cal
with a
cal,
with a
Michael, well Mikal, with this
you castes.
Not with the rey.
Because at the
most you castes
with a woman with
vestigurial.
You're inamorastes
of a vestido real.
And if you
amortation of a
real,
what you've
been about the
love, not of
me.
And if you
have done
to be the
love, you're going to
do you,
going to be
David.
This is I
the man
that when he
when he's
the presence
of God
and he
doesn't know
you're a
rye,
buskate
a rye in
other nation
because in
this nation
there is
an adorator and the adoradoer
always is going to postra
the last year of the
presence of the rea
of the rea.
There's a-kind
has to say amen.
