Dante Gebel Live - ¡Sólo es Roma!

Episode Date: January 20, 2021

El Nuevo Testamento presenta al gobierno como necesario, e incluso dispuesto por Dios, pero no necesariamente como protector o amigo de la fe. Cuando la iglesia trata de unirse con el estado y cree que tiene que fijar las reglas para el resto de la sociedad, tiende a ejercer el poder y se desvía hacia el fundamentalismo y fariseísmo contra el cual alertaba Jesús. ¿Existe entonces una manera de relacionarnos con la política y la cultura, sin perder nuestros valores cristianos, en especial en una democracia en la que tenemos derecho a expresarnos? Cuando vemos que el mundo se está deslizando por una pendiente moral resbaladiza ¿podemos transformar la sociedad de una forma que no asfixie nuestro mensaje de amor y gracia, sin insultar o denigrar a los de la vereda opuesta? ¡Un mensaje retador!

In the culture universal, there are phrases that we're for certain, but in reality, in the way of the fame of those same phrases, settergeversed his form original, or the way in that were dichas. For example, Ham Priy Bogart, never said, Tocla de new, Sam, in the classic movie, Casa Blanca.

But, many people affirm that, that is he said, and no appears in the movie. Or, like when certain people, to be a like that's a culled, as a giovanni, signal that we've, but in reality, that phrase never says that's ever seen as far as serbantus. Every way that someone me mention, I'm going to know that's just the that I confess I that I ame to use her to titular this message. At the principle,

yes, because I teemy that someone was to make it as an insults personal. But if I was it as a recordatorial private, a recordatorial personal, and this phrase is true. result that at the beginning of of the 90

George Bush father was he was his re-election and had levels of approbation superior

to 80% but the economy in the economy in the United had a tap of a

process then James Carville strategist of the campaign of Bill Clinton in

1999 he took that recession in favor of Clinton and acuned

a phrase that's that's used much in the ambitist in the arena political until the

day of today. Carville called a cartel in the office of the office of

the then the government of the bunker of Clinton had three phrases

that pretendied resuming the spirit of the discourse that the

candidate had to maintain as the campaign. The most popular

was the phrase of the The first said, Change versus more of the same.

It was one of the things that he had to pointualizing in his campaign. The last resable, not you

forgets of the system of the and the middle is the that is very famous.

He put it's the economy. Stupido. And the phrase since was popularized

every that when someone wants to emphasize the importance of an issue for the goal of an objective. And I do this introduction, because in a

libretta, very private, me scribe to me myself, something that I only me permit to say, and that I can't give me the lusho to forget me.

I'm scribed, it's another reino, stupid. Me, I'm wrote to me myself, of that's a phrase that I'm

my name myself and no pretend to get to let's the same bolsa. I, I need to be durer

to make certain principles, certain things, because I tend to forget them. And me repit to

that phrase and other once, when I have the tendency of inconscientently to mixlar the reino

natural with the reino supernatural. The mixla is basically what is

what is the concretism. The syncretism cultural, is when the culture of the world, in this case, is entreathe subtilement with the culture of the reigning. And that is very dangerous.

A reigning has to be with the law and the external, and other renal has to be with the heart and the internal. Martin Luther King said that a government can't impede that the blacks lynch to the blacks, but no government can obligar a person black to

to love a person a person a different. For that's exige a transformation of the heart.

And Jesus himself gave a little importance to the reino terranal, to the

political and he made he a enigmatic norma that some have been a year

in trying to disucidar that he said delen to Cesar

what is of Cesar and to God what is of God. But, Well, you know, scudrine in the scriptures, and be that at his

other way, the Apostle Paul, utilized plainly his privileges as, as a human Roman, no? He was fronted to the culture with the new message of Jesus at the same time that had respect for the authorities politics. Testificed Paul, ante the functionaries

and in occasions he opposed to the militarily Romanos, for that they were to protectiered of his enemies religious. And when he arrested, appelled his case to the most high up the cupula of the justice Roman. So, in

resum, the New Testament present the government as a necessary, even disposed for God. But not necessarily, as a protector or amigo of the faith. Is that clear? So, at least, at the

Cabe, Jesus, Paul, and the major part of the disciples, they were most martyrs, and the first Christians were confronted to the persecution by part of the emperators

Roman, so, the government of turn. But that's just not more the basis for what I try to try to try to try to transmit you

to part of God. As some years, I read, or I'd tried to interiorize me about the

different enfoques that the church has had been with the world secular a

interesting. When I was about the church, obviously, I'm going to the church in general. One of those of those enfoques is Christ contra the

culture. When the church, in certain moments of the history, was negable to make to make to

the un-nors to singe to the sombrero to the authorities, to be recutated for the

army, the world, the Christ, contra the culture. After a few a time

in that the second enfoque was a when the church was to put a society

in synony with the values Christian as much as it was possible the

third enfoque was Christ with the culture when

when was that religion and culture that syncretism

of that he was that you was that in

a moment the the church was succumbient and absorbing the culture that was over there

and with the time was disappearing the convictions of the faith. It was getting the essence of

the real real estate. And for ultimate, the fourth enfoque was Christ was Christ

on the the culture. Not transforming it, nor in contra, nor

with her, but on the same, referring to the times in the church had in

his hands the power real. When the reality is that's allodilipersia.

And, and I always me seemed me it was quite the four enfoques had something to contribute, and could

signaled examples biblical, of each one of those enfoques, in special in the Antigues.

Because the Reyes, like David, like Salomon, combined practically the church and the state.

The prophets solian denunciate the culture that he those rodea. But at the same time that the prophet Elis was he oponied with force, to the regime of Akab, another man, or other prophet,

called Addiah, was who had administrava the palace of that Acab, and at the same time that maintained esconded to the veritable prophets of God. One was in contra and the other was from the other was from a top. Amos and Oseas rogian against the state. But Isaiah Acted was a kind of a prophet In fact of a prophet

within the court Daniel, one of the most known who was an alt-functioner of two governments different. Nemias, that didigio,

a destacement of the, of the caballiaria Persia. So, the question that I am the first is the first

task to think together and here me going to get to the to what God

me said to do, whether there is, is there exists a way of relation to question as Christians with the politics and the culture,

especially in a democracy in that we have a right to express ourselves. No? We should we're not retire a contraculture and dedicate our energies to the Reigno of God? Or we'd have to work actively to transform this society?

That's my question, but honest. to start this message. And if we transform to the society, another question, we'll suppose that we're saying, no, we don't,

we can pass for the life without trying transform our governments, the society, well, we can do

a way that not affixia our message of love and of grace, we can defend values moral,

our values eticists, without insults or denigrar to the veredda opuesta? In resum, as he said, a famous

predicator of a few years, can't, perhaps, can't get the way in the cross, sent us in the

ascented of Pilato? Go, for part. The, who has been fascina this, because I mean,

it's like, the word of God is like it's like it's, it's like, to get us the examples

that are, and to ask us questions that in these times that's special, in this 2021, so aligid, that has been, it's necessary that we'll have to make.

In first place, it's probable that the Millennials, much of the generation new, doesn't know that this to make clear the church and politics is a phenomenon

relatively recent. I don't remember during my newness. I, in the churches that I grew, neither was even even said, it was mention,

a little of political. And so, and it was a little to the sum, it was a abelio of

he said, we're going to our president. Punt. And rapidito, because not that some people are

to think, we're politicized, no? That's all independent if we're back to governments

militares, as we were in Argentina for a good time, governments of a

government democratically. But we're majorment, now that I think, we're more most,

Christ, Christ, I'm in a church, Christ contra the culture. It was

almost, it's a very little, for the least in Argentina, almost after the year 2000,

that the Greta was made to full of our congregations. But of the new, I remember

that as we're very distant of what was in the governments of turn. And I

saw I used to talk to the young and adolescent, I of fascination,

how we're predicated that the battle of Armageddon was imminent I've that the

10 members of the market European, the 10 integrants were, they'd

for complete the prophecy about the bestia with the ten quernos.

And you gave the reference, that the bestia with the world was the market

common European with the European with the people, that in

little time, we were to sell the front of the grand computerora, this when not existed the laptops, nor the cellular, or the microchip, they said that it was a grand computerer

that was a good one or two mansana entire in some part of Brussels. I remember. That the war nuclear was to stashar. I was creed, I was listening messages, sabbadoes for the night, that the planet was going to

be to tambalier, to a moment, or other, and that Jesus was going to regresser much before the 2000, that we'd want to resisted to get to the year of the year.

And, of course, I'm growing. With the time, the market common, that now is the Union European,

ampled the number of members and he got to have to have ten quirkness. Russia was debilited

and the provable antichrist were changing. I spoke of this, a message in a

message titled, a grietta. The thing is that came to the case, because I

had been desperately esperat- in ir' with the the sir, of a

moment to other. Not much during the war of the Gulf

to see the he was in the thing, he was not resisted

the archive, but even channels of YouTube appear

messages that someone of a VHS those digital

and a lot of predicators said Sadan Hussein is

that is that so and then he was

changing the candidate to Bill Ladden to George

Soros of Juan Pablo II, to Bill Gates, of Obama Chavez. In all those different moments or temporations of the church. And of the humanity, the Christians

pass us for cycles of temores, after of hope, of encanto, but the fin not yet was. And when I go to back, and we're to go back, and we're going many

times exactly for the same cycle. Talbiz never in form more more than the cycle

first of our era. In that many Jews were they were to make sure they to get to

the terror of Rome, of the Antichristo of the that was the government de facto,

the invasor. If you were the people, who is the Antichristo you said Herodes,

the Cesar. I don't some of the the of the government oppressor.

And the first message that Jesus proclam is the reign of God has been a

carcated. And, and every that was the word reyno, activate

in the Jews records of standartes distosos of the exhits of the

men heard of the fathers, the abel the the baysaluel,

the Marfil of the Islamon, the nation of Israel restored

And, nearerite there Jesus were the dissident, the called celotes a mode of guerrisseros armed to play against Roma, but for

his own a real frustration, the senial to start the revuel, not came to never. And with the

past of the time, the conduct of Jesus is like that was disengnanaecco to all those who

were in a leader according the molde traditional. Those who me see on domino

and say, but you did this in some Let me advance because this is the base to understand the other.

For consternation of the multitudes, result was clear that Jesus was about a class strangely different different of the reign. It was other reign. The Jews were that the people

were reveled against Rome. They were waiting a reign visible. Comed at the mess. Someone who was given to give a planes

social, abundance of employes, syndicates that regulen to the people who and Jesus

an reign that significable to say to say to make the cross, renunciated to the

and even to marr the enemies and a matter that he was applying the expectations

of the muchedum they were dismorenando for when Jesus was clavated

in the cross had been had been had had been had to a messiah, a

liberator, murieling. So the word reigning significable one thing for Jesus and other

thing totally different for the multitude. Jesus was rejected in grand part because not satisfis

the image national of how he had or how he had a messia me explain?

What? What he said Jesus with the Reign of God? The reign of God has

Well, Jesus said that the reigning of God is like the Sembrador that's he used, between all the metaphors or the parables, this. And as well, as well, the campesinos, not all the semis that is seattle, produces a coseech. The Lord, he's explained. Some of the semillas can in terrain pedigoso,

others are the psalons, others can't the insects, others are suffocated by the malice. And all this is it It is natural to the campesino, but no it has sense to the constructor traditional of reynos. I'm implicated.

Acastle the reels not are not are not are incapacitated, according their power, to impose their own own power, to show to show us fortaleigh of the enemies? And Jesus indicated, for example, with the

parable or the metaphor of the Sembrador, that the Reigno of the the reno of God, is humilde, is discreet, coexist with the mal, messages that, no aggrado to the

intentions patriotic Jewish to revelars. He said, one's a small, another not will grow, another is going to get, no,

not it was what they were. I wanted a type that's imponged. And the Reign of God, he said the Lord, or

said the Lord, he said the Lord, it's so chiquititito, so that the people

that the people is a bit of it. And he's that he's not going to have to not a

probability that the reign no and it is a world and does a sombre

to the poor to the people and the not people rota

because the kingdom of God operates as like a seed

of a massac the sacrifice, negation to to see a cross, it's a

in a inversion sabied to pertain to this reign marvellous and when we're going repasando the

parables of the reyno in my case I don't want to generalize I'm

I'm in the count of how lejos is my comprehension of those images

domestic I have I'm I'm the tendency to imagine

the same class of reigning that the Jews are you. A reign visible, a reigns

powerful. So it's obvious that I need to hear to hear the description that Jesus

does to the reign of God to not frustrat me with the presidents that we have,

the governments in all the regions, in Europe, in all the different, all the

world, because today, we're not we're not we're not. So, and the

powers governmental and oppressors, When I go to see Jesus, I'm going to show a an attitude of desprecio, a attitude of desprecio, calling,

of Erodes, that's a sorra, which is a expression Judea, what means a person insignificant, ininia? They're in Lucas 1332,

for those who know they, for those who are to see, the Lord said, and he said, and he's going to be looking Erodes,

and he said, go, and say, and say, let's say, and say, to that sorra, that'sorra, that today and tomorrow

I'm going to expulsing demonies, curing to the first day I'm going, I'll have terminated.

So, I was not he was insulting, when he said that sororra who knows the terminology

the terminology Jewish, I was saying that insignificance no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, was the government that tried to eliminate it was like

like the Lord said, it's Rom. So it's Rom. So is Roma. So is Rom. For those oprimed His or

excellences, Jesus offered a message of consoled and alivio. He called well-aventurated to the

poor and the persecuted. But the one of the incit-init to those oprimid to that

to get to be the words. So, with a word that

they've irritated to the guerriller, a the guerrists, to the celotes, mando to

to your enemies. Jesus invoked a class different of power. Amor. No co-action.

Amor. And who embuscabom in Jesus, to his salvador political, they defraudar.

To Jesus, as I said, a pair of a few days to know as a friend of the

cobrators of impuest, group that is identified clearly with the expletors not with the exploiters. Although it censured,

censured, and debated against the system religious of the era, troted with respect to a leader as a

nicodemo. Although he spoke of the dangers of the money and the violence, he wasntro

love and compassion to the young rich and to the centurion Roman.

So, in resumed Jesus honro, the dignity of the dignity of the people

or not were to or not or not were to not a kingdom of the reigning, or the basis of the race, or the class social, and other divisions of that indole. And, affiliation political. Jesus, no

asked if it was a democrat or republican. Peronist, radical, Kisnerist, of the arena,

of Bukele, no asked. Oppressoreses and oprimedos had access to their reign.

For that I'm I'm going a phrase and I'll always, because I need to learn

me myself, that says, it's other a stupido. Me I'm saying to

me. Every that I participate in a cause in a that I feel with convictions clear,

I'm I'm sure because for me I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm

not really very easy to adhere to a political of a polarization and without

doubt in post to defend my convictions nobles capable I'm

I'm I'm God, also me to love to a woman that has to be able

to get to be a child and I'm to make to the medical that he did he's

not to approve. Amar, I said. The Lord is I'm saying that I'm a

person promiscua and the rich proprietor that's that's the

people. You're saying, yes, but they're to change. Those are three points apart.

Those have to love if I'm if I'm to be to be to be to be

I'm going to ask if I'm understanding in reality what is the Evangelio of Jesus. You figure out that the movements political, for their

own own naturalness establishes limits, disting, separate, jugs, segregate.

For the contrary, the love of Jesus, it's over the limits, transcends the distinctions.

Otorgia grace. Independientiment of the value intrusic of an issue, or,

yeah, the group in favor of the life or the group that defends the abort, the movements political are in the risk of revestirn't of a mantle of power that sofoka

the love. So, yeah, I'll say, I'll say Jesus I'm praying that the movement activist noble in the which I'm participating, no, they're exclude the love, or, of the contrary,

I'm trying to trycioning the reign of the skies. No? I'm into a war santa in favor of what I think, but I'm

to love in that war. And there is when I'm the reigning the renal of the sierra. It's like

we're saying if detest I don't know I'm soport to someone because no

has my same doctrine although I dishrase that I do that I'm

do parted I don't have common no I just that I'm in contra of Christ

because I'm a resel an odio solopado, the odio visceral, eclipsa, any flasada large, any mantilla in the head, the odio tap all that. When I feel tempted to be the reigning of God

as a structure of power, me have to go ahead of the story of the Juselan, a scene in that reune two reigns in the antipodas. So, they're one in a place and other in the the city opposite. In that day, culminate, the

dirigents of the reign of this world, they encountered car to car with Jesus and his reign. Two Reyes, Erodes and Jesus, who personificated two classes very different of power. Because Herodes had all the class of soldiers, legions, to impose their own to story, the book of history. The story, they're

how used Herodes that power. He robbed the husband, the brother. In to who they dissentied, he said to capitol to Juan the Baptist as a diversion in a feast. Now,

Jesus also also had power. But he used with compassion, alimenting the hamrientos, sanando the and the

unfermos. And a despite of the clear example of Jesus, I think that some of some of

his followers not have not been have been to have preferred the style of Herodes

than the of Jesus. Because the power of this reign reigns always attract.

For that costs so to let's the shillons presidential and they're in the power as

dictators and manage the urnas in the better of the cases. Others

are to get a through the forces armas. So the story muster

that when the church uses the instruments of the

kingdom of the world so so the the

other structure of the other the respect that

the the church, inspired in the world, diminution, in the same proportion in the same proportion in that

the same thing, they're doing this, and they're like us. And the Lord said, no, you're not,

you're not a bea-a-a- , and say, to respect to the grits. No, are a semissa diminut

in the garden. Leavadura in the mass of the pan, sal in the meat,

salt, that permea the society. So I go to the metaphors, to the parables that Jesus uses to describe the reigning that came to instaurar, and it's like a force occult.

As I do always, that squadron of buskedom in combat against the filas invasors, but a squadron that operates from from the church, Jesus no said nothing of an iglesia triumphal that part the power with Rome.

The reign of God It also function as a movement minority, in opposition to the reigning of this world. Me, I'll explain. And, listen, when you more

crese that minority, to me, it's like that reigning of God is changing subtilment of essence. When we're just going to be a minority, something is the

scriptures. When I'm a unconverso, what is for you a Christian evangelic? The response says, well, someone who is

who's oppone to the rights of the homosexuals, someone who's who's put in the abortion. And I mean me preoccupies because the

Evangelio of Jesus never was only that was a platform political. Now, convengames,

I don't think we're that the democracy us bring to the Christian all the

opportunities to express what we think we think we think we can't not

say what you know, it's the point to go is that when we when we when we're

of this world, perhaps that we can't forget our our our main to present to presentar

to the world a class different of reynes in the grace and the pardon of God.

Approval the laws that make respect the moral is very good. To who

we don't like? If we don't we're not not going to not but it

doesn't the problems human, is clear? If to come a year.

All what they're to say the historians about the evangelicals of the year of the

year 2021, is that we've been just the values, have we have we've fracasated

in the mission that Jesus us did to come to give to know the

love of God for the people and say, you know, the same

you're, and then you will be so you can be you

said. Jesus no said the last the all those who are my disciples, if approvay

good leases in the Senate, if eliminate the immorality, if meteys a pair of a diputistrian in the government, if devolveys

the decor to the nation, no, if you've a more the one with the others, this is the sello.

That will be the distinction. Those are Christians, because they are and they are. And the

Lord said this the night before a night in the power human represented

in the poderio of Rome choccoed de front with the power of God.

To the life Jesus was in a space of a kind of authorities religious

rigid and the empire pagan. Sin embargo respond giving his

to those to the people they were those When the governor Romano Pilato

he asks, he says, you're the reigned to you're the king of the Jews? Jesus says, my reign no

is of this world. I think he's to look to say, I'm saying to reasona. Pensapa,

if my reign not of this world, my servitors would be that I would be

to be not given to the country, but my reigno not is to be to you,

Pilate, Pilate, I'm, you, I have another citizenia. If not, they'd be in

the people armed here and there were a war civil, but my reigning not there's in

other occasion, the Pharisees and they asked, when he was to get to the rena

to God. Jesus, Jesus, he's, the rena, and they're here, or he'll

be it, or he's not, because here the reign of God is there is a one of

this. So, so it result, that the Reigno of God, is a whole of

rules different to any of any of any of the reign of God. The Reign of God

has frontiers geographic, no has a city capital, no has a office of

Congress, nor the public, no, the government, no,

it has a unidad basic, their followers live in middle of those

enemies, not apart of them, separate by a bay, a wall,

a wall, a of a church. This reign no live and creases into the human.

For that's the Lord, it's not between us. It's not between you. We're

are still not going. I'm creed in the school Dominical that we're going to

Jesus we're a person who they're they're they're they're the first

that they were they're we're we're not the world be my

home no Pue de the world be my O'clock. You know, I had

very clear that that we've in a reigns in a nationality in a time that

simultaneously perteneouses to the kingdom of I, I always knew that had

double citizenship, although not appeared in my passport. I

always knew, I took you're Argentino but also

parteneas to belong to God. And in his mandat

does Cesar, what is of Cesar, And to God what is of God, Jesus Jesus'estrothed that there tension between those reigns, between the reigns where

we're nacees and the reigns to the reigns of the Lord. For the first Christians, the lealty of the reign of God significed a choque with the reignsible of Cesar. When he said, da, da, the Cesar, what is of Cesar,

and da God what is of God, no, they're going to have problems if repartain well the pelota. No, they're going to have problems. There will be a tension. How, no? If there are two reigns. We've seen in our time

demonstrations dived of chockes of reynos. In countries communist, like Albania, what more, the Union Sovietic in its moment, China,

the government obliged the church Christian to pass to the clandestinidad, so that's it was invisible, literally the

church. There were great goleads of persecution during the decades of the years of 60,

70, I remember missioners that were, So, so multaversientes Chinese, so it was encarceled, and so it was torturable,

so they prohibitioned the activities religious? How do you say, to say, to do you, what is of the Cesar, and to God is what he's of but a person

of the government, it produced an abivation that was the major abivation of the history of the church, 50 million of the crevents,

for the most, 50 millions, they, they're adhered to a reigno invisible, while the reinable was made to

to suffer. The church, a me seems to make it to be a little

when it's a very to be the way, when it's the more crece. The story

says that from the Bible to the contemporary. When in the United,

the God went to the God credit, even in the

people in the people, and the suno American reemplas to

the when the church was when the church was members preferrify

to help out the service because he'd a job to the dominoes to get a dollarito more.

That's all I'm I'm in this country. Cresent that were they were fiel and

they disappeared months, because he got her a job where they got them

a 25 dollars more. When the country was to come and the

God was the credit, for to get to to the

Rein Invisible. So, one has to question to Cesar, is for no less what I

I'm going to when I say, it's another reino stupid. Is our first purpose to change our government?

Or procurar that in the government there's lives that can't to continue to Christ? I'm going to

replantial the question. It's our first purpose, to change the reign external,

changing what pass in the house in the house rosada, in the house of the color that's in every

country, or promove the reign transcendent of God. God is not by means,

but by a way a reign that transcending the nations. We can't think that God is

green, that God is is Argentino, and that God is is a nation. And always

I feel that we do the two reigns. For the visible, the visible, the

visible and the invisible. How do this? Because every time that's a election, in any

country where we're residing, the Christians we're not, if that's the man of God, or is the man

that's the devil. No, that's the man who is that he's more santo. I'm

to do you do you know, that we're going to be our preference electoral in the urnas, because for

that's the democracy, is the exercise, democratic, but if we're going to say we're

a salvator. As we When I thought those Jews, that Jesus to instaurar a reigning a reign on contra to Rome, we're frugated, only is Rome. I see, me situ in the

time of Jesus, no, I imagine in the church debating Citibereo, Octavio, Julio, Julius Caesar, were the only the man of God for the empire.

Jesus, in the last cenn, who thinks that you're going to governal the empire when he's when he's mure to, I'm

preoccupied, I'm a man padoo. Or what is Pio, Jesus propuginginging to his disciples to occupy the Congress of Rome. And what, what do you think, if we vote to Peter, we'll candidate us to replace to Pilate?

So, that's that the politics of Roma no has nothing to be with the Reigno of God. So our true matter, the focus of our energy, not should be Christianized to America, because it's going to be a battle a perdid. The world will go to bad and worse,

it's the Bible. Our task is to try to be the reigning of God in a world that we know for what says the scripture, every bit more hostile, peor. If we're we're going to

that the world entire is by a pendente moral, resbaladisa, capa that that's it can't that the church as, as it happened in Rome, as, it was in China, or in the Union Sovietica,

establisher a signal that is full of promise and of the world. In the world, tendre that affliction, to the disciples. And he said, also there's

there's to hear of war, rumours of in war. If not we're going to be rumors,

and when there's rumors and when it comes the war. What I say? What I'm

noturbies? No, don't be sure. No, they're going to start antichrist

desperated, because it is necessary that all this that contestes, but even

not is the thing. The word of Jesus. No, he said when When they're in a Pongeren to

to pray to to order and to to play to to the war to be. When they're the pestilence

and the hunger, then they are reprender to that this parre. It has to occurrary.

The presence of the mal guarantees that is that is that is written what is

written. I sometimes I say, is that I think I think of the

nameo or I'm too neceo or I the Bible very literal, but I mean, all the life of the chiquitito me taught me

that's the world that's the world that's the world. It was to be to be a little, but he was to be to be doing.

For a time, the reign of God should coexist with an active rebellion against God. The trigo grows with

what, together, we can't pretend that there a moment that we're going to we're going to go to

the 201 because we're doing all the church, it's not going to do the The reigning

as a long as a a force invasora secret that that operates in the reigns

as a topos. The reino is composed by Trojans. And to us quite to understand

that? If you're God, what are you get into there? Why don't you go to

the channel Christian? If you're God, what you're doing with a

mundan? What's they said to Jesus? What does you say to be a samaritan?

The PUR we're just on this side of the greta. So, one is the question, a bit, why God is so so-power- a kind of

a species of a secret to sock-cabar to the demon? Why not comes with and it invading

all? Well, the Christians not we know that will come with a

but we know when that's that's the end of the world.

When the author out the story, the the work has

concluded, the the disciples most the most the people most the people to have been difficult to

this perspective of the reign because after the resurrection when for finally they had

been that the messia, that had been to derrocar to Rome but as a king a vestido of a

still he still he still he still he's he still he's sure you're

the reign of Israel in this time? Before that the time? To be the type

He was Jesus resolutely showing the mark of the crew and the people, and what are going to happen with the government of here? They'd keep on a reigns visible that was

to replace the government of Rome. They thought, well, Jesus' Terranal he could crucifical, Roma was he could kill, but this that is immortal,

now is he could go to Rome. Jesus ignored the question and said, that anuncern their name to the confines

of the earth. There is when it's when he when he he was to see he was

a instant after the angels said, that's that's been taken to you

have been to you will be as you will be to go to the year

in the church the church and he's content

with form part of Rome and and not the vanguard

of a a rino of the world the risk of not have understood never the essence of the

evangelist. I'm saying, no me important the world because we we're going to, what I'm saying is that the New Testament,

upunt a time in that says, it's going to doble all the rodilla and all language confesser that is the

Lord. It's obvious that that still still no the apostle Paul about that

that all the creation jimed, listen, with dolores of part, look, the metaphor

that uses of a mom, parturienta, with dolores of partos for a redemption that still not was realized. So, we're going to give a light the reigning, but when they're going to look to dole, or what is

the worst, we want to retracine the nascent. Not they're that the dolores of partos, they'd have to occurrish? Now, you're saying, all right, all this is that happening, both in the States, United, as in America, as in Europe, is it's written in the Bible, and what we do we do we do we do we can't

make those Christians the values moral in a society secular at the same time that we mustramed that question he said if were destroyed the cements the fundaments

what will be the just? Look at that's the question the salmista what was the right when the fundaments are removed what we're going to do?

Well, some don't the way to be the sexual abracosal to be the

unsecreted, in the reds, to the people who do you, to do you sometimes I

see in the reds, how they're of the presidents, the government to be un-goyance, have to

get to all, are the people, they're those who are those who

do you know, I don't know that's the question, the what he's does the

what the the fundamental so a time I'm a sense that some people are the

people who met them many people in the Congress to make the nation give a

year of a really? De really? We're thinking that to have a vivement

spiritual we need a reform legislative? If we're the history of the

church not exactly to the right Jesus atrajo the

person more those pari's morals, he went to to look to the people

rot, not to the justes. Of other other way, he would have abandoned all that people and had

had been focused on the empire. Why not so Jesus part of his ministry and predicating

in the Palacio Real? Why not he went to to to say to Cesar?

Why not he said, no, we said, no, we're going to convince him to Pylato, because if

came to all to all to all to when it arrested, not were the people were the peccators notorious of Palestine to the

cross, the moralists, the people who they were in their murder. So the politics, that always functions, according the laws of the justice, no seduce for that we'll make a trueke of grace

for power. And always that we'll get us, we're going to start to be able to when the church try to unirce with the state,

tend to engercer power in the place. When the church crees that has the regla for the rest of the society,

it's a fundamentalism and pharisaism against the which Jesus alerted. I said

a few years ago, the project of making descend the sky to the earth always

has been the result that we make us to make sure a class of reign that could

coexisting in Jerusalem and that could extend to Judea, to Samaria and

to the rincones of the area. In a parable advirt that those agricultors

that's that's redact to get to run to bad at the water. Cue because they're

start destroying the trigo with those malas yearvas. And he said Jesus, dejects

the only the only the question that they have been to be that's that's

that's you're fiftate that the apostle Paul about about

much about the people about the person says there there are there

there are that's there's that's there are and others have

meant and others who are with chism and dissension, but no about the immorality of the Roma Pagana. Very few times Paul remitio against the abuse of Rome. And look, it was the

empire that more slavitue had, idolatria, orgies. Nobody assassinated many assassinated tantos babies like the empire Roman? You think, you

think that not offend them to the Christians as in our society in decadence offends to the Christians of today?

I told you that the women of Roma, had his baby, and if it was a mbrita and they'd be able to a man, they'd abandoning

to a way to do them to be the animals, and the animals of rapine, after they

were after they said. I told that Romanos like Greek practicable

a life sexual totally totally out of any a

mark moral. They were sexo with men, women, women,

and women, and they had the custom to use muchachos young

as clavos sexual, menores of age. It's saying in the time of Jesus and the

people, these two questions moral were in forms that today are they're

delictive in any in any country in a country. Well, but the

aborto is in almost the world that a person

that's in the women women that's not you know, the

borgal, No, any country permits legally the sex of children. No,

there's that Jesus and Paul knew these these practices and I see a Jesus that said

nothing of her I don't think he was that but no of those two

was he was in the reino that was in the reign alternative

of God there no there no how to make to

make to be this to make to be Rebeth. For so I sometimes

I make questions about the enormous energy that we're taking these days to the restoration moral of the

world. Not we're concentrating more in the reign of this world than in the reign that

not is of this world? Because the image public of the church evangelic

of today is practically defined by two questions that Jesus didn't even

even so how we can dispensar grace to the Christians in

a society that every day is a more of God. I go to the Bible and there

a lot model of a lot of response Elia was in Cuevas and

he had incursions oppressive against the regime pagan of Akab.

His contemporary Abdias he worked in the system

regential the palace of Akap and and and

and you know the the great the God

Esther, Daniel occupied on the empires pagans Jesus

submeted to the judgment to the public Apollo appelled to say

that's or in the government that this not is the point because one is there

not not not so far or for for them for

the people the bill not does not a

public not a that we are people because

when Paul and Peter exort to that they

they were to they were the rei, it was because there a monarchy, in a democracy, the citizens are the rea.

Vote. So it's very difficult to ignore the government when, for the right constitutional, we're not going to we're doing this government.

Because all those we vote and we and we're going to make a policy. The problem is when we think and if a day the Christians

are we most a majority, amen? Why not proclam a majority moral and moldy the culture to the culture of

our amen? It's not going to pass. Because in first our

principal contribution consists in dispensar the grace of God. Jesus

never didn't that any institution interferer with his

love for the person for Jesus was more important than that any

classification the person the person was more important that any any

any any etiquette I so so how it is to to be to have to raster

by the grieta of the polarization, grittal to the lines to the manifestants, to the enemy that's at the other side.

But Jesus orden-o- to love to our enemies. So, we'll question. I'm going to ask you

me a few months, almost when started the pandemic. Who is my enemy? Who are

our enemies? Who are the enemies of the evangelical, of the Christian? What do

in the mind? If you Satanazi, but after that, who are the enemies? The parties are the abortions?

Trump, Biden, Maduro, Obrador, Fernandez, the producers of Netflix contaminants the

culture. Who are our enemies? The president that impulsed the law of abortion when in reality

is doing nothing more and nothing than what he promised during the campaign? Of really

who votes to someone are people, they're they're they're doing what he was

to do during the campaign? It's the only thing that's doing, is it's the only thing. It's the only thing. You know, now the politicians not the publicists, and they're

expressing during the campaign. I'm going to promote the abort. And there in the urnas, it's all right that we choose

our preference for the candidate that we're not that's aline with what I think. But not

sonymos, with a reformer in the country, because in first instance is going to the

scriptures. What we pretend we're, we think we're going to be a group of pastors in the house of government and he's to be able to pray for it, it's going to be that sanctify the nation? Or that now, yeah, if, was touched by God, I'm a moment, I think it temble,

he, will impulse a leg of justice just. In Argentina, we've even had to presidents that metian versiculses biblicals in the discourse of campaign. Levantate and you, remember? Lucas 21, 28,

says, when these things start start, Erguios and And levanta the head because it's your redemption If my activism

for much well-intentioned that's ever I don't I didn't the evangelist I'm Attacred on the

law and not in the Evangelio of the grace Jesus Jesus said that we'd we'd have

a signal not the correction political not the superiority moral

the the love and Pablo added in 1st of Corinthians

13 without of what we do any of the fact that we're no goodness theological, nor ardient

sacrifice personal will be for something. So how we're doing the way in a world secular and

in a world that a bendiente moral every day manifestando the fruit of the spirit

of God what is? Amor, gosos peace, patience, benignity what more?

Bonda, faith, mancedum, Temptalance, all the things that can show with temples serrados. The arms of the Misericordia are

powerful. That's what you have to show. When the church was extended for all the empire

Roman, the followers took them as the words, Christo is the Lord.

That was a, pardon, a fronta direct for the authorities Romanas that

they were the people were the jurors Cesar, the state

is the So the first Christians so farjured certain rules to work to do not to comply with with the state

and to do you. Prohibia certain professions. The actor that had to represent the role of

the power of God's pagan, he was negated. The master obligated to

teach mythology pagan in the schools publicas renunciable. If

you were Christian no could be a gladiator that was the life

of other human by deport. So Justin, who would be a martyr, delineed the limits of the

obedience to Rome. He said, something like, only to God we rending adoration. In the

other, we serve him and he said, he said, we know us as the government of the

men, but we're for us also, that you're also, that's also, that

have a decision, and that the years. Some of the first of the years, some of the other no had nothing of the juries. And when surrogia the conflict, the Christianos valiant were stills against the state, appellant to

an authority more high. The missionaries that led them in the evangelist, other cultures, had to confronters with certain practices, that put them in conflict direct with the state. In the India, for example, we were, they were in in contra of the matrimoion of the children, the quema of spouses. Someone is saying,

Allelush, why they're saying, The imolation of biudas, no I said, Opunnerce, that's it. In America of the South, prohibitioners Human. I'm talking about it last years. In Africa, the missioners

were repulsions to be the polygamy, to the clavitou. So, the Christians understood that the faith not simply private, that had consequences for the society.

So what we have to say of the moment actual? Well, we have to have to have the same of the battle. I'm conscious that it's obvious that in things like the abort, the things sexual when they're

when they're getting with our children, are questions that are our attention and we're going to get a voice. For that we're in democracy. And to set us valer at the moment of the urnars. But that's not signific that we're going to instauring

a reyno here. Because there is when we're necions and we're savors like palomah.

Vita that the paloma has a little bit more and mansos like serpients. Exactly the opposite of what

he ordered Jesus. There is when we're going to attack to all the world with a world,

with a carcino. I'm going to pray for the government for that the intendent and they're

those casinos and they're in the the time the time to adorn to God. The government can arresting to

the racists, but no can't cure your odio. The government no can't teach them to love. The state can establishes that make more difficult the divorce, but no can't obligar to

the conjuice to love to. The state can't authoring subsidies to the poor, but can't obligar to the rich to show compassion and generosity. The state can prohibit the adulterio,

but not the lusuria. It can prohibit the robber, but not the codicia. Could condemn the staphah, but not the orgoy. It can favorize the moral, but not the sanctity. For that we have to be less preoccupied about what's the grosses of the Senate or the Court of Supremes

and more preoccupated about what happens within the delgated of our churches. Because the renovation of the spirituality in our countries not going to descend from the government,

as we going to to get to Maduro, to Fernand, to Amlo,

or to who can see, that from a Borgue an abivament. If it's going to

get to the people that's going to be to be up to up to get to

this. I'm going to be that my country, pretend that Fernand that's

Mackri, that's in the power legislative of moral and sanity, it's a

dream, no going to happen. The same here, if we're we're going to

define the future of the church, no, it's that is that's he's going to get to be men, no.

I'm going to get into the vot. What I'm saying is, the churches are the lobeges between lobo,

a treasure in the camp, the semilla more little of the wurtta, the trigo

that grows between the cissue a lebrada in the mass of the pan, a lot,

some grams of salt in the car. All those things make in a movement

that over the society, changing the inside to the inside of the end of

out. No, it's a carmion to be a tach of hamon. With a

little salt, just that for you don't do you do that a wusty

organized, of soldiers, because I was to be to be a

way to a time, through the world. And I say, I'm

a other possibility, the great institutions of Rome, the

Code of the legal, the great bibliothecals, the Senate, the legions Romanes, the years,

the acuptu, the camin, the monuments public, were desmoronando. But the little group of Jesus prevailed

until today. To me it seems that for a year in the church we've a spee

to reflect the society denunciating and we quehando no of what we're about

in the other, in the other, that reveling a different. We're known for all what

we're not and we're not for the reign that we're not. I tell you one thing, if the

world desprecrecy a notory, the church is a precator notory, eh? But,

you know, they're saying, how you're you're defraudas Dante, you,

you've got a photo to be a childi, me defraudate, and who will to love. If the world no

knows to love to love, if the reigning to care, if the world he quits, help, help, to the people, the church, should offer food and curation. And me scribes,

yes, but that's a person that's a lot of, they're repented? Diffon, said the Lord, for when it did you did you do

for one of my little, but first you did to repenting and baptize, you, do you do you? If the world oprimed the

church, the church, to levant, to be the oppressed a paria, the church should proclaiming the love reconciliator of God. Reconciler of God.

But how are accept a gay? If the world will be the autosite satisfaction, the church should be the sacrifice, the service.

If the world exige vengeance, the church has to dispensar grace. If the world is divided in greets,

in greets, when put the title, only is Roma, a lot of crecent. We're going to be, Dante, to what side you're going to be?

To be able to be? To be what you're going to be to? If you're going to be on one side or in the other of the government of the turn, then you're not you're not.

I'm going to be the right of the Reigno invisible. The church should be manifest an unity. We're not we're not

I don't have communion with those who have my sanest doctrine. Of the really, if the world destroy to his enemies, the church

those will be to mar. That is the vision of the New Testament, a colony of the world still. The grand predicator Moody solied to say, of every 100

men, one lea the Bible. The other 99, they're all Christian. So, we're we're receiving us orders of a

power more than the other than a single word or a one single phrase. In this, know all those who are my

disciples, one's to the others. The act more subversive that we can realize as an issue is obeisance. You'd you think that the country will change? Because you're going to to get it, because you're going to protested? When you're saying to a member, no, listen to

fulano because no has a sanai doctrine, if the world you're going to know because of us, not for how you divide you. The reason for the the world the politics demonstrated to be a trap so great for the church is because it's very rare

that the power convivate with with the people that's the list of the people and the enemy and thenemings to thence

to them and castigar to the enemies. And the Christians don't have the order to to love

to the people. The political tracer limits between the people

in the change. The love of Jesus, atravies to these lines to now, for

That's supposed, that this not means that the Christians do not we can't involve in politics, we've been involucarern us. But it means that at a certain, no it's to

let's make that the rules of power desplacens to the mandate to Amar. Acorate that the escalator of the

power is to the grace is to back to go to you know, I'll talk to this,

it's a question moral and it's under the category of the 10 mandamient to think

what municipality what government national to make to do a law a law a law that the cause of the cause of the

cause of the but we can't make that the orgues are illegal Jesus resumed all the law of the Antigues to the Antigues

a manned with all your heart with all your ser with all your force and with all your mind

listen what authority human can control the can't control the the

so even even the so even the Christians we have the obligation to obey the

mandations, no we can't get in the error, of that we have to convert those mandates, go to be able to

to be the two of the people, not you know masts and robes, were brought to get to

the system legal. But then there no, there's society pluralist that can codificer in

their system of their legales to the other eight mandamient to be so the important

that are to be the important that they make in prison a son a

child because no the church to work when it's a person. When I'm going to be able to do you. I'm going to be able to be able to the soul. Samuel never said to be able to postularer to be a man. But Samuel never to be to be the essence of the message. So, Jesus us gave to his followers the mandate of

to be a disciple to all the nations. Never no-in-comended that Christianizaramos to any nation, which would be a matter

impossible. When the the church, we're going to our metas is reformed the culture general or

reforming the political, we're risk to darker to darkerer to the evangeles of the power.

Termino with this. In In the 1989, in the point most algerid of the war fria, the great and respected Bill Graham visited Russia

and was reunio with the leaders of the government and the church. As they put an impediment to predicate, was a plen a war free to visit Russia.

And the Christians' conservatives of the States to not to say the Pharisees of the same was criticed durissimo, because

he was all the Russians with respect and with courtesia. They said, he had to have assumed a paper prophetic, not

he was had to have about the abuso, of the rights of the human, of the

human, one of the critic, he said, in a period, because there had no, a period,

Dr. Graham, a card of lecturers, a pastor, Dr. Graham, that's a a very much of a

You've done retroceder to the church to get a year, and Graham responded to the day

next, I feel profoundly aborgosal, you know, because I'm doing I'm trying to do that retoceder

two-million years, to be the church original. So, when I see the precipice

moral to the United, the rest of the countries of America Latina or my

property, Argentina, I confess that I sometimes I think the temptation to create to do something to change

all the when they're in the way of our convictions I'm trying and I'm think I'm

in the reddish I'm a sad for my country I'm to do I'm I'm

I'm to get a and make to make the people people we're we're getting the same

leagues than other reyno A Sometimes I have I'm going to to

do you I'm I'm going to I'm I'm I'm and I'm to start

to be able to all the Christians that I do you do you do this and do

and say I'm a that I'm so neceo that I sometimes I think that I'm very

I'm that I'm on my convictions santa I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm and other Sometimes I'm so torpe that I feel I'm going to sit my tracero, hours front of a computer and denunciate

to those who not prodigant the truth. Because I also feel that is a way to serve to God. I'm so too that if the government me gave a plan social and an assignation economic, familiar, I'm going to defend it and say, it's not, I'm not God. And if you're met with my

candidate, that's that that has that's that's going to go to the church, so they're able to do. but if I to increase to to increase to get to start the government

and say that's the devil so I'm not so I'm I'm not about you, I'm to be you, I'm saying

to be ignorant a very I'm very so niceo that in the way of my time I'm not

to look at the times I'm sometimes me don't to start to protested to the

place of Roma and God me says Dante only is Rome and I

repeat one and another again my reigning this world,

Rason, Pylato, if my reign were in my servitors would beleary for that I would

be able to I'm not here. But my reigning not the way. And as I

don't know, I'll be the God, will be in this or he'll go to

when the government can be when the law, and the when they're there's

the reaper but I'm so, as I'm so much, I'm too so much

I'm I do not just to forget all what the Lord me says in the scriptures. For that's maybe now you know that you know,

because it's that I told at the initial of the sermon that my libretta of puntes me

I'm myself. It's other reign. Stupid. I'm going to go to me.

I'm going to go to the other side. I'm going to ask for that God do you do you know

to do your heart, to your intellect, but only he can to get to your

alma. I know there's a other side thinking, what we're going to be going to be

going to be to go to go to be going to do we're going to do let's but

but I'm that all that's that's there's going to be there's

rumors of war and pestilences and and brunner but but tranquill the

fin still still the end the thing of the we've seen. While we're trying,

we're saying some salt, seamo that form, we're the semilla of mostasa that's

when nobody see and so it's hard. I'm going for all those who are saying, I need a

question new in my life. For those that says, Lord, I need recobrar,

recuperate my call, my call, how you the Lord. Me

said the Lord. for that you are a agent of change that you must be the fruit

of the spirit. You show to that the people know that there's

that there's another alternative, that's a little to have to to to the people who

think that's different someone will have to cross the bay

and give a arm with that that looks a a pino

a other color and that he say, even we're in the antipodas,

even in a dichotomia of the thing, how you know, how he will be

to love, if he gave an opportunity to an adulterer, and a ladron in the cross,

and a coprower of an cobrator of impuctor, that is my God.

I'm for that this 20, 21, we understand more than never that

And all what is going to occurring and all what is Roma. No, you assuces for the news. No, you assuces for the news of the next year that comes. No, you preoccupy, no you inquietes. No, I'm saying that you're alexing, because the disgrace,

the dolor ageno, us have to cause consternation in the heart. But no you inquietes, no sturbies, says the Lord. Tranquilus, I'm with you. My reign, your reigns, your reigning, not is of this

world? It's more than the sun. And for there we're going. We're going to to give this evangel to the world. There's a there's a different.

No, it's what in the court's supreme can say. No, it's what in the camera of the deputators,

that in the camera of senators say, and here is a reigning, that's over the reigning. There are things

that not they compete to the Cesar. There are things that not they compete to the

Faron. I am your God, and I am at control. No, he has moved. Listen, no, he moved, the Lord of his throne, me, did you? The Lord still, sat down in his throne. I goro and bendigo those who are who are receiving the Lord now.

If you're Catholic, atheist, or Jew, or whatever, say, the, Lord Jesus, enter, my life, change, transform my life. Has to me a new creature. As me understand, of that we're salt, of that we're love,

the Lord. You try peace, you try tranquillity to your heart all right. Oim,

all be all all right. You're thank you thank you. Thank you for being. Thank you for

having to be having to want the message at this hour do it do you to do it that the

rey now to get here, of that we we're here to be to make the light

and not the light the light above of the almud but it God

thank you thank for all squadron in combat in combat against

the Filas invasolars. Thank you. We're going to be. We'll see the next. God, God,

I'll go with the placas final for you get to us a little more. Grasias. God, God,

God, he guard, and make a resplanderson his rostro over you. That's a little

domingo, a little initial of a time, and we're here. God, thank.

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