Dante Gebel Live - Una vida en el museo

Episode Date: September 28, 2021

Toda iglesia tiene su manera de hacer las cosas; pero cuando las iglesias se fosilizan alrededor de sus prácticas y se convierten en museos enamorados de sus tradiciones, van camino a la decadencia. Por eso hoy es importante abrir la mente y comprender que es más fácil conectarse con las personas por medio de una relación que les brinde amor, antes que por la teología, los modelos y las actividades ‘cristianas’. Nuestra prioridad debe ser la gente, no la tradición. Y para alcanzar a la gente que nadie más está alcanzando, tenemos que hacer cosas que nadie más está haciendo. ¡Un mensaje retador!

Very well. All of the innovations, all the new, I always say that they're in their date of expiration, your fecese. All what we

think is relevant, vanguardist, in some moment, the new is the new. Diga what to say,

the one that the last cellulat. This is the ultimisimus and the ultimisimis no. In six,

seven months it's to start, you're you're asking you know you're going to do you're

and when you're going to say what you're old you're how you're I'm going to be the same phone where the child when

when he was the telephone that we did it we got the same telephone almost for the story

was to give to give us to the but so in however today the telephone the iPad

the computer the computer the rope all it's all around it's the law of entropy

where of all what we is relevant in a moment he has to beckon and at the final even the ideas new are you

are notices of the year even to the thing is innovative the pan is the only

that's the only that's the thing is the only that putrid or putrid out of the

refrigerator all the all the enfoques innovators all have all has the life

the finitude of the life no there nothing that's that's eternal, the exception of our

soul. All of all of those, of those ideas, of those things that we're going to expire, are going to

put newies, no there's any irresistible, no there nothing relevant for ever. And the strange is that

is that the people, that the people, we're living, we're living, the Christian, that's

we're supposed, that we're the experience of the eternity, a lot we're most resistententes

to understand that all what is new, will be beheas we're the most

resistent to the changes. And we'll forget that all what's in the

actual what's in the past as a status to be a

a old in the generation past and that we we're

we're that we're so that's that's when we went to we're

one of those autos that's they're they're they're they're

they're in motora new, one doesn't say, that's a few, nothing to be with the auto modern. In other one of a moment

that was the ultimate gritty of the model, like the thing is a cycle, the vestimenta and it's

to use. The solap ancha of the once, it's to be to be

the clothes that are the that's that we don't know to get, and rescat

what the old was over because now can't use. But, for sure, that what

is irrelevant in the present, that we say, those are antiques, was the ultimate of the

last of our parents or of our brothers. I always I'm going to in terms of the church, of the church

there's a time, and I am a monotematic and repetitive, but I'm there. There was a time

in the instruments in the music, it was the piano, the organo, and I was

sum, the violin, because my pastor a German he was the accordion went much

after. The accordion was in debate, if it was an instrument of the demonio,

no, because he He used the quartetto imperial in Colombia, and then it would have been consangrared to Satan. It was a debate theological important, but the organo and the piano were the instruments that were canonized, that were the that were the

that were the temple, in the church. The battery in the sanctuary was evidence that we were that we were the evidence that we were the evidence that we were the evidence of that we're ascending antigo.

Tal- maybe it's a little that's a lot of that's a lot of

that's in the time of the experience of the domino. But not it's many.

Not it a problem. They've lost their work to make to make that instrument

of satanass that was used for the rock for permission to enter to the temples.

And then more later, came the use of the dance, of the

pandero with the much chach dancers, the standartes, the dramas, the mimos in the

church, we're not we're not we're in many congregations. More later, the predicators commenced

used pantalones chupines, zapatias, some arrete, chaket of quero, no,

they're modernized one, you'd have thought that never a predicator could look like many

many many many, many, many, even, even, even was, he even

he did he did after it, he did some of the cures of the coulestone, put on a taburet, a basit with a glass with water, and more it's

more than a stand-up than a predica. And there's people that those churches because they're not that they're entering in a climate sacro,

but it's other that is new, that is innovator, it's a new all the world starts the same always, it's a

symbol of rebeldia, now the more rebel is the that is the or the is a little more formal. No? A day,

finally, all is notices atrazada. What was relevant also is notices atrasada

in the church or in our way of our way to present our services to God. Insist,

no, no, no, that is eternal, perpetu, that duke, that is true

idea is going going to the same way that the same can't You've seen as Hilsson,

all what it seems, ooh, what we're going to do, it's the same the same the same way,

acquiring a new normality, that was new, and it's ingenue, to think that that's a relevant for

ever, it's absurd that we think we in any area of our life that what we do we

do this we can be to the next generation. The most probable is that

not pass. Our children were created with dispositive that we've had never soneed of the

control remote I say on, off and the volume then I'm there there's 72

button that I never use in my life I'm I'm I'm

I'm to get to the cell so so you they're so

they're with the antivus and they're all they're so

I'm I'm know that the new generations are much more

more more that we've we've grown and maturand and in that order of

in that line of the line of there are people who's unique a church that was a

year that there's a new people there's there's kids here. So for

them music, the and the images, the are a tradition

for them is a normal. And this this, this way to this way to do this

is always attractive, will be always new, will be to to say prophetically what is going to

happen. Eventually we'll beheas we'll behecels more you more than I for reasons

obvious. And we're to make a generation that's that's that's the way

of River is the form of church no, there's this is a

archaical not not be a trident not be new for always and it

and logically I'm going to get to know because certainly I'm

going to I'm going to defend torpently to as a media that I'm be being old and my prostate is aggrandating I'm going to

I'm going to that's a but I'm going to be able to trypement the manner this to do and I'm

going to be the guardian of something that's that's not going to not going to

be a not going to be a my pastor Aleman when said in the church no time

there's to enter other instrument that not the violin And he was He was a necio, he was a theologist,

but he thought that God was envegecelsia with him. He thought that his gusto pass were to do the interests

of God. And when one's going to be born so that is good, because the behe's noble,

never gets without to beckes with varis, stria, cellulit and dolor of the wosos,

get to get to the back in the backno, you know, myira, that's embegecing.

No. It's never to imprevisto. That's that's well, day a day, the reloge

us mark the the reloge the light of the same, the the is part of the

Regal of the life. The thing is is to think that God is going to us to be with us

or that we're the last topon of the ocean the last Coca-Cola of the desert,

as well, so the same thing the way that we think we think we have

predicate much of us inconsientem we erred we're

we're that we're that we're that are that God or that's that's

the word of God no, it's what we knew our our

generation the people can say, Dante, no leo the Bible. Never did the verseical of memory, but not the

Bible. And one's the offend. And one's the before to start. My pastor or over before to start.

Like if not or the pardica not of God. No, he used the four points omelerticos. No,

he said the thing, the people, it's per die. How is it per die? Like the Spiritus

Sato, if not pass on the front, it's the pired, oh, he's been he said,

he did it so it did it to pass. It's never ever He's in his side. I had

I had to repeat to the side. Just me took the chick and I'm just to be and I'm never to repeat

to do you. The way of predicate is the way of we've seen in the church in the churches.

That is for us the way to predicate. If you not crested in a church, your

model of predicator is that that's the he's got to the way of the Christ or you've been

to be the maybe, or you know, all we received a strong influence of that we

not served of model or of tradition. So there are many people who still

say, you know there's that's that's that I'm a good and I'm

don't I'm putting a tela of that's not a great predicate but there people

who are the people who have a idea who are and in some

decades more in various generations are they're they're people

were they're stufuf that's that Judas Smith Rudi

That's all right. That's all right. Gratia grittal. Gritraiser, because the Bible, God grita, those are predicator. Yes, am I'm a critic. And this is a problematic.

If that model, I think that's where I'm going, if that model of our things, our creensias, entran in conflict with our

call, with our proposal, because no of us to none of us to the God to perpetuate a model. or a style

specific of the predication. We say, is that heeredo the mantle of fulano, I want to a double

portion of that. But we didn't know we've called to him to others.

Nobody said to God to perpetuate the model of nobody. And even to this.

We said that the Lord to change our generation, to inspire, to inspire, to inspire.

And if we've been called to to get to the people rot, to the people that

that needs to Christ no we can't give us the no one of even to protect the way in the generation pasted because that's

the predicators Billy Graham Jimmy Schroger were the predicators with his manner with his moment, for

his time, for his time if we we're not we're saying this is of God, this is of God,

so our old ways to do the things not were not even are the only that

are the only that What we've got to choose. Our children not going to to hear a lot of a hour of predicate

for more that's not going to listen. Our children you're not support a trailer of

a truer the trailer during the teaser two seconds two seconds two seconds,

you've two seconds, I'm still still, all right, and all right. The t'clock, I'm going to siphkale.

I don't want. I'm a stupid. And I'm saying, it's a genial, no, do you do TikTok? No, I'm saying, that's ticot-kero. I'm not saying that's

I'm not. I'm not going to know that never, I'm going to understand that. I'm not. I'm not.

I'm not. I'm not a other thing. That's the devil. That's not of God. No, because there

other manner communication for the new generations. And if we want to be a rio that never is detain. We need a embreagant doses, as Bill Heibel, of insatisfaction Santa. Dece, sir, we want more.

It has to be more. What other way can evangelize? Of what other way we can get with the message of Christ to the people that not come to the church? We need to God us put a cargour

for the which is, it's a value even to put a problem in our church that say, They're in the false doctrine. But I'm always thinking something that's going to be in danger.

Something that we inste to honor more than never. Are you ready for this conversation? Yes, or no? Because me are you saying, what are you saying, What are you doing? I'm saying, what are you?

Are you? Are you? Are you? Are you? Yes. Are you? In class? No, they can't respond

but put on YouTube if you're listed. Here we're going. This is the point. If you're doing, I'm going to do. no there

territory more critical to or more difficult than our mind

our mind is a camp mined our mind no never proverbs

237 says because what is his thinking in your thought

is he All battle that we're that we're to be got to be

done at once in our world interior. Always. Pyrdes the battle here? No,

you can't gain any battle out of all the other all the things. No, you have the

capacity to give a more, because not you don't you know, you know,

you can't be a samebrador because you're thinking that you they know

they're that nobody you know, then never can't causecha because

whenever you see you're that someone and you're you're not you're not you're not

because you're doing to your newness of your so you're a battle internal

and I include you I'm I'm Lucas 418 says the spirit of the

spirit of me because me has hunged the man to bring

good new to the people and then he's me have

envied to the people to proclam liberty to the captives

and liberation to the prisoners. That is the carcern mental. It's the carcels in the cell in the which we're

stereotypated and we can't get. If our mind is free, the possibilities not have

the limit. God to be to be to be your mind. A mind

abirted us can't see that for others are certain because they're

the thought. God, he says, pass, pass, pass, Cremes. No, no, I know, I know, I know, so's God, but this is of God. And no,

go to enter! Soloment with a mind that's we can't create to God. If we don't know our mind, we're

we're just present of a person person that's just for that you that's that's anxach never

to come back to the time original. A mind ensanchated when one ensached at the site

of the tinder, ensancha the staca of the mind, never more will be to his time

original. San Lucas says that the two that went in the man who he was

the mind for the mind to the mind. First, he brought the scriptures but

not they didn't the things because it didn't the mind.

To me that that the last he has accompanied the last

years, I I don't want a person with a

person so I'm can be very su generis I

can be very heart are open, but if my mind is a lot, if my mind

is attated to creensions, to what I think is of God, because so I never learn I'm,

I think you know, I transform in a neceo, one day I'm to start to defend this is the

form of the church, and those that are not the man, I'm going to be a man torpe.

For that those recalls, our creences, our traditions erredas, create the barriers that

we know the we're what we're We record about our infancy, of our youths, are the mode in that molded our mind. No, there's other way. The form that they're created,

what they said, if you had fathers that were that just were never to mark them to negative, it would cost to us to be a few years to sanar the esteema. God does the things

new, but the history we have to be. So, our records, the tradition, are the design of the mind. And if we don't we don't have a while, we can get trapped

in the interior of a properly a proper mind serrata and the Bible we need to give to all the

thought of the obedience to the obedience to Christ. All the think you get to get to get them

to give us to Christ but according the studies of great universities we have

70,000 pensions all day. These are two pensions for second are many

are many are many are many to get caughtive, the I've got to get

cativo, the The only way is, the only way is mediating the formation of what is a cosmovision. In the sense

more practical, the manner in that we always see our life. Our mentality interior design our world

exterior. All of us we have a way to see the life. And we don't we

don't get the people to the feet of Christ, one at the best, we don't terminate never.

What we do we do we're doing the way process us all the and that is our

cosmovision, a filter. All we see our our filter. If your filter is the legalism,

you're going to do all through the legalism. If your filter is the amalgura, you're

going to do it through the margura. It's like that story that I tell of the

that's that he mutes to the little bit of the borgue and the abel. And the

house apesta. This house pesta. It's out out of course apesta. And a sometimes the cheese, we don't have in the bigote. It's our filter.

And that filter also is called tradition. Or it's called O'Dre and if the Odre permanence is the new, because he will be to give a new, because you know you'll be to robber.

You know, you know, you know, that's going to do. My pastor the German, never said that the guitar, electric, and the trumpets are used in the church. He said, he went to the skyl, thinking, that good that's that's the one,

the exception of Dante that's my met with the battery but it's because it's diabolical and it's going to get to be to do you.

He's going to so if our construction of the mind has been molded by the manner sub-consient the influence of our parents

the influence of our leaders, our pastors, of some we've got we're going to think we're to think.

For that's Albert Einstein, I've had many times and temporaries of a chance of when I to go to the school. Because when

one goes to school, you're how to think. I went to the first time to the school and I said, I drew a house. And I drew a house like my own, a thing quadrada. Because my house was a quadrada, with a tank of water up, and the

master said, that's not a house. A house is like. Dibuja a two water, a house alpina, a chimney. I don't have been any teja. No, I had seen a chimney in the life. But a part of that, that's that was a house.

So is a A-cassed a My son Well I made I found I didn't I'm not

I'm not So I'm to say And then it's Our mentality filter the information that's

in this is the most is the most difficult of a predicate that

I'm before and you I'm before and you're so that is there

doesn't that doesn't what you don't what you can't what you

think one and better than what did it coincide with what I mean me inseeing when I do something

you know, no, no, it's a little bit more to find out of the Cosmovician, says this is the not of God.

for that's all overest it. because the poor public is a public is a public of people that is a public of people that CRE. Because the structure mental, that us makes very

very enceivable, has the same potential to become no enseignable. If we think that we know we all we know we'll get nothing

for learning. We'll become necous in our own opinion. We'll say, to be God me surprise

today, to see, God, I'm something new. I've I'm 30 years to believe. But the

Spirit Santo, he says that he does the new things new. That new are the new things

every Let me see, today I'll learn something. The majority says, no, I just learned. To the sum, give me something to discuss, to debate. No? When the Apostol, Pablo, he's scribed to the Romans,

they say, no, see amolden in the world actual. Bearing transformed through the renavation of the mind. What signific, not be molded in the world actual? That when the Apostol about this world,

to mold ourselves, in reality, is confronting our mentalities. There is a pattern of that's that's that's that's

that's he's, and Paul says, no see, don't see mule in that

way, renewing the mind. For that's an process

difficult. And this I never do you do you do this will be good,

and to your right, and the right, and say, and the to get in

confidence. Uh, very. and very. Now, we're, we're trying, Oh, listen, yes, or not?

Because still not it's not because it's to put in. This is to picketeer. We're going to think that

the spiritual and the intellectual are mutually are quite excruentes. If you're spiritual,

not have to think to much. Accepts for faith and not question, me,

we know. We're to think. We're not. That the Cerebrough in the baptism, and

no. Because a grand love from a great It's a dislumbra mrs. No, you can't say, I'm inamore at first-

see, and not know the person. You've dislumbred at first view. For there, you know a man, musculos, all troughed as

so that you can rachar queso, a guy, and you say, how you go? That's the time I'm going to

play to the tank? What's the of the back? The same, the reverse, no? So, in the Salmos,

us they're to ador with Cantic new because even

God to do the the people to be God, God's

the God's it's the name to the God, to be a God,

God, to be red a question. And as a way, we need

new new new melodies, because if you say to say to

someone that you know, you're to make to make to be

a expression of of the desgan, of the desden, of the desidia, of the routine. When one says, You know, we say, You love us, Father,

the name of Jesus, you know, we're saying, Santa Maria, for you say in peccas, right. No, there's there.

And when the leaders we're going to the equation, that's going to put more interesting. Because many pastors we're culpam to the people

for their opposition to the changes. I'm with many people who said, a me me took people very duna, in this

The area of the United, the people of the Hispanics are Dupans, are the Uruos. No, no, no, that I'm in this part of America Latina, that are terrible, the people. The people are closed. Here, the people is a lot of people. And the problem is much more profound and complexoing. It's a inflexibility of the people or the abstination is a problem of traditions.

Of others, Degrolesa, of a creencia is a complexion of traditions. Here, a lot of traditions, more here, more here, that we're in different countries. Mexican, no, was created as a Salvadoran. was created as a Guatemaltic or an Argentine, like a Costa Ricense.

We're we, we're not, we're unes the continent to the majority, but not separate the frontiers, the nests, the nests,

the way of the same, your mom could be like to be like to be like, but not are equal. And all the

churches have their way to do the times they're always they're times.

They're all the form in that's the way in that's the We need to change something. I say, well, I have to give you a new, open the mind, we are in the tradition.

We have a fear of God. The ministeries that in our Church were designed around this is the form that's the way that's the things. The presuppost is based on this is the form that's the things. The personnel that

the volunteers, are the part of this is the form that's the things. Cases. Cases, and say, this is the form that's the things. Today we're going to laver,

we're to do it, He's going to lift the offrenda and will start to prericate. This is the form that's done the things. The traditions conspiring in our contra. So the people get from other congregations and says, Here no, Santa Cena one every? Why? Because we do, eventually.

Why not one every month? Not in the Bible that has to be one. It says, do you. Do you? Do you do, I mean, all the borescence, all the cences. So, the Santa Cina should have been to do the almoverses and all the cences. Of your house? Why is here not a Santa Cena?

Because as, when it's not, in a lot of the blessing of aeneo? No, there's activity for dames here? Hmm, there will be something for solteros? Yes, solteras. So, so, so, so, so. So, so.

So, so. So, so. So, what form our tradition actual, terminate, in some kind of in some

moment, I'm trying, for some they're content with a little little, a little little,

but preserving the model that errederer, because they have made to get a new, to create a

God for something new. Because to believe to God for the new is difficult, too costoso, demasiado too risgoso, there's a lot of creethe that they're going to criticar. For that when I go ahead, I hear of people, no want to change. My people no

want to change. How did you guys for your people, me? I said to me, first, you're not, you know, I don't paried to you. Second, I don't, I don't know what I'm simply I go, before to talk of our

people, that not is our, Let me of the vision. Decime a one one one of the place. Describe me the future, I'll give to the

pastors, to be the people who are, paint me in an image verbal. Where is your church?

Where is the vision? If I I go to any member of your church and I say,

what is the vision of this church? And that me it is a number

of the telephone. What is the vision? And in all the cases, the

Leaders, that are that's that's good, no, or that's that they're not,

or that's not able to do you know, what is the vision of the church,

to communicate them. Well, we're going to help the thing, we don't,

but no, you're trying to how much practice your people are in

a vision. So when they can transmit, and communicate what type of people want to

want to do you know because the people can't bring the

people can't and the church isa to fossilize around of their practices and that's to come in the decadency

when the practices are more important than the people and every church has a model we have

a tradition but not all the churches know what is the model I'm the model is the more

more activity is better we're much and some will be a lot of one of one of

reunions for a damas reunions for the dam for the dams desperated for the dams desperated reunions for the reunions for this

there's this, there's a other, there's seminary for this, and the other more activities, not it's not but they're more, but they're

more activity is more. Our church is full of activities. And in this model, they're in a

lot of ministry with the hope that that something that's there's there's

the model, what is the model, what is doing the church that's great and

the famous. We're going to do the many people, they're there's not There are others that have the modero,

I've been in those congregations, The Savor of the MESS, that is the model, that the pastor, that's a new and it's like a revelation new. And it's the new

revelation, we have a new paternity, and now dependem of Fulano, and now we're new, and we're the new, and transition am it new, and receive it new. And the people go to the next

next year's going to go to another other thing, more new, recontra new, and the other gets old, and the people just know where the people, now we're not

we're not a covertura and we have a paternity new and then the church is that all

is the whole energy is in the music in the show things

new and they're and they're around of the adoration so that is

little but every is a important has a advantage is that the

people's and can't find a little that they're because at final the world

God us most we had to a pandemic, the target of the people that's the

people that not the people are not defectuos, those who are who are in those who don't encas

that you think it's a market that not's a never and that in this moment we don't have

no time the people need to a church of a love, to say this is your

place, this is the hospital of this is the home, this is the city, anyone

has to believe to believe to be you or no? It is more you're

here because you're in problems. And our major retort consists in assurances that we're to be able to make that

and to remain in that enfoke we don't we need to love to our way to because we

we're going to make the same error. I was the leaders after a last in the night of

ADN that when we came to the cathedral he had got to make many

to make this imagine I said, I got Pentecostal to a uniglesia reformed. I said, you want to put the toga? I said, Juan Carl Ortiz. The toga, so like as in a cork.

You want to put the toga. I go, no, it's a color. But what the good is that is going to be to be in calzone. I'll get to dance, I'll get a tog. I read a book of a pastor

that hered a congregation whose pastor an earlier loved a big piano that was a spantoso the piano. And he said, The first what I'm going to do you know

when he's is to keep that this horrible piano. And the Spirit Santo he said, no.

If you're to quit you, you're going to hurt emotionally to make sure. And what I'm to have to get to want to

the piano? He says, no, but you can go to go a little every single. And gradually

he went moving the piano because in that piano there was much inversion emotional was the

piano was to the whole and nobody he did the And that was what God when I got to

when I came to the cathedral I said, I guess. So, since I came to to the cathedral, I began to move many pianos emotional, many. Muchs. Not I went with a sote of

a quarter. Many piano of the motioned and it was doing so. I was doing so. And p. Me decice of anian. No, no, no, no. No, but

always exists. So, so, it's how we don't? I'm sorry, So, so we're we're not we're in and with the time

the churches are inamored of their tradition. The presuppostos are created around the traditions. It's like

I'm always, like that old sillon red. My papas had a sysion bird

that was like the santo grial for them. At the principle they were

before I wanted to need to my mom a place where I had been

a perfect. With the time it was associated to the records. There was an story associated with each one of the manches of the sillon.

And that mancha, why don't we clean, no, that was the derrame cerebral of the abuilla? But what, he's, he's all the cerebr? No, but when he got her the attack, he, he was, and there was a... Yeah, it was a... The right?

It was a spantousa. They were paged, they were emotionally in a sillon. And it was full of remians, with resort of the saliote, but I could be deprended to him. So, what he commenced

as a solution to a problem. Where we're going to siter? They're transformed a member of the family. Nobody could desaccesses of the sillion. My papa was more than a

little bit more than when we've got to be a bit of spiritual. Because we're we're not more we're just we're going to

the commission. And with the time, we're going to sit on their sysions and they're going to siters

in other place. And we're that our is that our children No, no, our

ascentos our our sissions red and feos, no! They're not to value the

stories associated with the manches of our past. And one of the reasons for those

that many churches are in the is because their leaders am more the traditions than the

people. And there a lot of leaders of the people who are inamor that's

the tactics of the activities, of the and Jesus was that

that the He loved the tradition. He fascinated. Sure, alleging that was the tradition

of Moses. But when he came to the single first, he had added many times 600 and

a piece of 113 LES, and they added to the ten mandamions. It was

the sunbra of what God did you initially. The question of that

Jesus had to talk more of the day Saturday. No

important that could say the sabbado to make a cabra of the pozo. But it was a

thing indigned prohibitism to be a child a creature that a time a day on that's a

matter. If the Sabbath you have to die. And Jesus said the Saturday is

for the people, not the people for the Sabbath. And the Phariseesion

had the other things. They thought that the tradition had the priority.

Jesus said that no, it's the people the people that has the

we're the doctrine and we If we're the people, this is a bad

a little this is a man, but I'm saying I'm but I'm

saying I'm so so God never never had

the intention that the Jews should to the

law and Jesus was to people convinced that

were convinced that they're that those those assassino

they were not and and the tradition and

the tragic that they were in a law and the reason

of that law that's the law that's the law they're in the

synagogue and the man was made on a burrito in a chusma

because interruped the tradition of those that was that

the lucre if the tradition not to get to the person

and we're we're we we're we're we we're

we're we What does it serve to have Santa Cena all the dominoes if the people take the cup like if you're eating a McDonald? No sir, we'll forget us the

why. When one when you learn the common, it's always the carolson-quitao. We'll say in Argentina. All the

ministeries of the church can't an atmosphere. No exist in the ambience neutral in any part in your house or in an office

of courreous, no exist the ambient neutral. The ambience are the message before

the message. The messages that communicate our ambience, the lobby, the

stationationation, the chicas of the bookstor, the Wilcom team, have the

potential to turn to be the message predicated here. The

exit of the church is in the money of our

people, I super conscientious of that because the sermon of River

always come in the stationationation always or no always they're in the field

in the stationationation when I get the moment that I'm going to all the

people all the people sent out of here after the last of the time

I'm when I go to Disney the the last the show

I've received a lot of people and I attended the the time for the

ticket, how I came how I cost to grab the sapata grandotas all.

All the of a pavo. With a reason I didn't have because it was a man, it's

so how you sit and you and before to hear me you've decided in your mind if you have to

you're going to go to you're to do you go to do you want to you're

getting a deced a docena when the people the people sent to here,

you know to be back and it's This is more specific in the case of those that came for the first time. Whatever is the time of our church, the church is a conglomerated

of ambience and of atmospheras. And, too, that atmosphere and that is we can't leave to the traditions individual of the volunteers. I don't know what I can't leave to have delivered to the assar. I'm going to occupy to every detail for that the person to be

receptive to the message and not has had taken complications in to get to the that's not that we're because we're

what we want to have people who we're going to a church a churchent, and the people

and the majority can't what they can't what we're all we're all right not so

the people that gets for the first but if me not they're not the people say the people's

that's staciones only, what I'm doing the people that's What is the station? And if it's not that you get, that doesn't get?

What I have to be doing? What do you have to be? What do you want to? If I do a church in a church. The people of the church, the people, we all. We want them to predicate an invite when the pastor is a time when the pastor's going to take the dominole-libre. And we have any idea who is the invite-to-your-law-rety-you-credit.

And no retina. We want us a cult of six hours. With the excuse that it was tantal the unction that we could have. The people not so care to go. If you're If you're If you're

You're going to Go ahead. The people that today no there's a chermon? Trajiste

just one new new that cost to invite one year. Well, I'm going, boy,

boy, boy, boy, and today no, there's because today's the birthday

or of the apostle or of the pastor and we we're going to be PowerPoint

the photo of my when he's he's a obhally oh, oh, is that

he's that he's a that's that's that's Father Dant and you you're

You've got to one who's that's going to be for suicide that's going to that's that's a suicide without,

the church that's that the pastor sub to after the people who the people and that's

he's not that he's going to put him to go back, let's come to come to he's just get to

the other are two hours and don't just are not the not they support more the

the person the church can't the church has a alaance that canalize his

hormones Pongase of the people, psalta, Rana, that's coming! And as the wife, he's going to

get to be to get to get to be the prevarer, you know, repeat to get to repeat with me, and repita

with me, repeat with me, because that does it do you know the time to learn the we're not over the people of the

people, we're we're just over we're just that we're just the time we're doing in the place where we're

more difficult is to be with the objectivity necessary to the incoverso what is the needs to be the way

more time less sensibility less sentient common all the all the other a more

time in a more more than more time we're in a ministerio less conscientious

of the inconsient in the other new. It's pass to me to me

I'm I'm I'm a form in that we do we do we do we do. But that no

means that it's good. It means that for me it's comod. But as a majority of the leaders, I'm

moved by intuition, but the intuition no about. The leaders need to neednces objectives of

that something is a but the people are coming. So the assistance of the people

can't get in because if we're decided to do a church for the people that

never would never would not that the the arena is full, but that's

a general with the people, with the which we're to get

to be a get a thing, we're we're never we're

so we're so we think that what I had my wife, she

said in Argentina to in Mexico in Mexico is the

woman of the woman, for so that's that

she said, that she said all what is all of rich,

sierra so, like. So, he was. He put to the the delantal

he put in a little something that was a robot cup, so. Limpio

and ordenado communicates that you is waiting to be you're a person? To you

a moment that the house was Kosovo. I've exploded Nagasaki Hirjima

in the middle of your cell and you can the visit.

In America Latin, no, not, it's aides, here's a time, here's I'm going to

visit to the time, to be the day, you know, you're to be in a lot of

there's in America Latina, t'embring, the perro, who, who, who's, the Tia,

with all the people, was the old, it's, don't, scone, they're,

we're, we're just, we're very very d'Ord we're not, for the family, we're just

for the cucarachas, don't sit in house. But for the visit, we we're in when we're

to come. Because what does the sooce and the desordernated, you know you're

not the pain for the thing. Or, we're even we've we've got

when you see, see, hey, eh, eh, you're to say, pardon me,

that just sth you a bomb, no, no, corred, corred, corred, corren,

corren, corren, cross the car, and pass, and it you know, there,

there People who don't see the disord, he's accustomed to. So, no matter how good that's the predication in a church, if no way order,

if no organization, we'll visit them for first and last time. Because the organized communicates that we're taking in serious what

we do. Like that the vestimenta. If I'm with a ropa or discuriedada, no I'm modern.

What I'm saying is I'm not I'm saying to talk to the people. They'd were the

people of never, and I never get that's a cheeryed with an azeite, but I don't know. The organized is, we're doing something important here. For that's, you never going to visit you

a bank, or nother, a bank, and have the aspect of socio, disorganized, because the banks want to communicate that all

all is all is under control. The exit of the bank depends that the people perceive that your money is sure with them.

The banks can't get things that at a business that the people, the Wilcontin

communicate something. These these kids are saying we're we're we're

we're we're we're we're waiting we're just we're we're doing we're

disorganized equivalent to a little attractive apart we can't we can't insult the

intelligence of the people if our church we're disorganisated

in the places in the people people interior of your auto if you have

a stita and you go to get a love to be that you're in the manned

through the vassos of soda and that's perfumated if you go to work

and that you're well as a guy that's not a person who don't

be a good programmer of computer and it's something but it's

we rest us we're we're we're not the necessity to change in the life

to make sure because to the evangelical He doesn't the word called. I have the unction and I have

the unction and the most important is the unction. Sure, if you have unction, we think we

don't need to do you need to be good. God use those who doesn't have the question to be your children.

That's not the ignorance in a virtue. Oh, and so good that's a little, I see,

how I'm going to use? No, it's not so. It's a good, in the moment in that you

know, the Spirit's Santo will try the words correct to your mind. But that's an argument against the

preparation. No, I'm going to prepare. Total, God, to put a word,

something. So, to sustain the exceptions, like if were the regla, not only is

a neceda, but it's contrary to the Bible. God can use to any other. Yes,

obviously. But when we're in our responsibilities of the, we have the regla,

not the exceptions. And Paul it says with clarity in Romanos 2.6, we have don't

different. Di-combeau, don't different, Firtte, don't is different. If the don't of someone is of prophecy,

that it is in proportion of your faith, if it's to present a service, that he's with a mer.

If it's to teach, that the people can't understand a other, that the people get to do you

want to to come to serve to the need to do it to do do it with

to And if he dirige, that diriga with smear, if must compassion, that it does with a legion. So the version, in the church, all, for God, it has to be with the excellence. Add the more, the more, the more, the more, what do you? That's my my God!

Hallelujah! Look, I'll tell you a secret and to what are in the house, too. For the same offender. In Matthew 13, no, because to be if someone who doesn't want to be message and say, where I pido that I'll give them

the offrendah? In Matthew 13, Jesus says the parable famous of the Sembrador. Well,

our silences is so full of people with different of receptivity. No, I'm not

about intellect. Different, according to the life, again. Different

as each one receive the word. Our audience, like the audience

that in the world, are all the classes of the or with the world,

is still in land fertile. Impossible. That's all what they're here's there's a place.

There's people who that's not the people who come in with trauma with crisis

that the year is terrible. Today you are receiving for the March

you you all because the life common is like

a one is a thing and those we're not

you don't you remember for the time to

you have too times you did the what you

did the scurrying. It's the life. And it's that every soil

determines if the word is a word is something we're not. But if we're doing

the job, determine, if the person will go to the

next the next for the session of the time. There

people are hard, but the soil are changing. The

my changed. I'm very very When my my heart

was resisted and they'd a great quantity of some that were not germin'

and my soil was changing a poe a poxie was more receptive, and the semilla decided

to return. We don't we're going that we're going, because a few it's possible

connect to through the love, of the relation with the people, before that

that person is connected by the theology. Why you go to River? You know,

You know, you know, no, no, no, there's people like I. You're just like, oh, like, as you're going to be the day of the station, the chicanings, the chico. Cas I piso one,

but it's put in the end. All are so amourosso, no, when I was there, when I sat there. And what you, well, for now not much, but me, it's, then the people

will be, and the soil, is changing. And I tell you a thing, we have much in common, more than differences with the inconversos. because you we're not

we're not we're not you no God you're you're

not no no no no no no no

no any of all those those matrimo and confronts

and different things we we do when we're

we're we're we're we we're we're we we

need in we all we we we're we

we we're we we're We have things of those we're lamented in the past to all us

have been erred to all us cost a time to give the majority, you know, all we have culpability

no me in the mind any one only a only problem that is exclusively Christian

all are simply problems what which means that there is a common camp

fertile where we're that we're that we're All we can receive the same message, all.

And the second message is for some colleagues that I'm looking and me want every day a little bit more. In this moment, there are many young here in the arena in both services. And I think to all

they're all that River. But if, for one of those casualties, some of these young is a mudd with his family, and of a casuality you end up your church,

I'll rube, I'll rube that you ches to to be to be a better. Not you scound a tradition and of your habits, so is how we do you, and you

don't you robes the passion that they have for the church for being too for being too to try to something to

for having to the people who they pay in the people. That's all of your people are you

are the people who are your own people who's And every domingo, or you're infunding

an amor more more more than you're doing a reason more to be to do you when you

don't have the obligation to do it because they're the father. And this is very important.

I don't I'm not I'm saying that you but I'm but we need to form part

of the solution. Why we're we're not tolerant with what not

doesn't? Why the grand commission not we all the whole I know that you're thinking

now right now because there's saying, I can't believe what this is going to say, for fin

someone who's that's going to do you know, but to get to get to we're going to we have to do things

that nobody more is doing if no Luria is change to change not is to do something

we're going to get the pulpit no no to change is that if we're

we're that if we're a squadron of buskker Enfocated in people that never would enter to a church traditional,

we have to have been a mind. One of the one of the year ago, and a car ratchel we said,

and all the world was doing so we didn't know for what because so, do you know so can

ask you. The wife said, Moma, not are so they're all so and then

he said abran the mind. Open my We are we satisfied with the idea of the rest of the life doing things of the church of the way that always

they did. I don't. I have romegis in the in the in the carous. We're satisfied with the form in that the tradition

is that we're going to continue designing the services the cults for people of the church? One day, one of the one

George he said after 15 years ago in a visit at the cathedral I'm

that you the day you decide with who you want to do you that day

you're to decide with who you're to you're but

you can make you because then you know because then you're

cause indifference to all. The day that you will be with

you you're to do you can't also with who you're going to fracassar. And I, deliberately, I decided to fracassar with the evangelists,

with the tradition, with the religion organized, with what you say, that's not about. That's not a artiste of Hollywood, not it's a predicator, for that I'm a psalm, to say, I'm a pastor.

What, how looks a pastor? Pardon, for being delgado, pardon. So, out of the broma, it's a year that no me import that

Of them, they're offender, to offend them, those who are those who are all what we do all what we do do we are to be connected

to save to the first. Lucca, us said that the day of the inauguration, all the

people of when when a repentent and the spirit of it's on and you and they're

what you're a studio biblico? No. A cult of adoration? No. A reunion of oration, no. All those things

have been done before to get to the Spirit Santo. One way that the Spirit Santo came to get

the church out of the not they were to keep a place of the building of the building. For that

we're going to need other changes. If the pandemic not we did the mind,

they're going to come other pandemias. And the tradition will go

We're going to siting in first fill as those that get in the ROTUS, not going to reserve ascent for pastors. Here the cameras not can be occupied by medical, but for people rot, because they are the invitators

most important. When we have clear that our invitators are the almas, we're going for the almas perdid, is it, really? We're going to

those who have they're not in any hygiene spiritual to enter in any congregation. We're supposed to have three Targettes of Credit, you

know, does one? Acaso, not does the two that you have to look desperately the last year? No,

you're obsessions with the people? No, you know, you're saying, me there's two. No, when

we're going to do we've we've got to we've been with what we've puted. When you do you

do you, you doxion with what you're what is the obsession of River? What is

what we're what we Because the churches for crevents, the churchesiesies to conforming evangelicals that never do conforming, they're obsessioning with things superficial. Because they're administering

people that not are perdied. And I know that you're that you're not going to be the people in your heart. But also we need to preoccupate in our agenda, in our service, in our style of predicate,

in our presuppest. Jesus said that there was more regosyho in the the sky for the people just about to find

than the people that that's there's more regoci for the perggy for the pergene

that went to look at the nine people you know because there don't know there's

so that many people I've got I've got many people I've got so when I'm going to

goos when I'm when I'm all the time all the time all the time that they're

all right they're all the all the people are all because are

And when they're They're not Recocyon, and in the sky, and nothing because no there are people encountered after years.

They're all the encountered of the always. So, de vera not we're going to pass the

life administraining what is what is being is still what you're still.

I know that the people of that person to make things of the church will be

going to do you when it's when it's men of the church we're

going to continue to be senando Santa no there have no

In Naviida, the people will come to listen to songs Navidna, no we're going to to avoid and it's good. In Action of Gracia, the people will attract all to their family.

But I don't met in this for that. I mean me aburred. Pardon, but me aburre. And no,

me look like, I'm saying, oh, I'm sorry, I'm going to be I'm going to be. But I'm amburren. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry, I'm in this to leave a wier in the world. And, maybe, today, doing until now and

to bring what we were called to do originally. What is to serve to God? Servier to God not what you're doing in the church. Servi to go and to go and to

the people. I'm a legalist in the way to recuperate me. I'm a legalist in the way to and I'm

say that you have yet to get to the front, to abandoning our task to be guides of museums of

the santa. Basta to be a Guias of museums. We'll to be soldados that at final to be

exactly for what we're for the case. Acaste exists other manner? These churches

we're out of the people. Let's celebrate the Señor of the Lord. Give a

applause to give you a applause great. If you think God about,

give you give us to give a applause to the Lord of Seniors, Allelieu! More, more, more,

more, more, celebrate, celebrate, celebrate, celebrate. Bavergo, -son-Rribe! It will be gozo in the

Casa of God Avergozo In the house of God There's a fiesta, Fiest, Fiest You know Cretes? There's a

Fiesta in the Cases of God Hallelujah We're going For the people We're going to Who are those Who are the

People are And amen to And Christ Christ's Transformen in a fiesta When You see

Here, the Semanae The same The same A man A man A man A man

A man an artist, when you see someone who's been someone who's maybe not change of life rapidly, no matter, remember the soil

are changing. The Spirit Santo is the Bible says that the Lord was going and was there. And some of

no, no, but those changed. No, no, it's the life that necessarily were from the

mess repented. Some are that they were to be a year, until a day,

his his heart had been not happened so we've happened that we the money.

That we're doing, and, our soil changes. So, there's people that, there's a other, and there's something. I was this

time with people in conversa, with producers of television, that me said, there's a energy, and they know they're

not saying unction, but I say, there's a thing, and I know this amicest, because me put good, when I'm

with you, even we don't even we're just every more, and he says, he's, he's, he's, you know,

and his world, I'm I do I do count that the spinoes go, the peteras go and the paders and it's a tierra fertile. And a few in the afand of creer to

to reforming what first learn in the theology, before to love those, the people do perceive. And there's to love those, and

then the other the Lord will do, amal, to be to love them, and there's people with pecados tremendous,

there are other with other who are doing in pornography, there are other who are in problems more grave

even, and they feel like because the church has said change or the

Lord to be to be a postate and I do you know I'm I'm

do you think that the God and that he has a and that

has a relation with him but we have to understand we

need to get for the people and let's let's hear you

hear listen me listen let's hear two hours after in the

house to look to look to look to Abandoned the cruises, of that because they're just, approbando the abort,

and that the matrimony equalitarious, out of the plaza with cartels. Jamas, Jesus, was in contra of Rome. Never. And I'm not I'm saying that's good.

But never, he inverted in, and we've got to the patio of Erodes to reclamar because they're aborting the children.

And, look, in the times of Rome, there were orgies. There were orgies. The aborto. Jesus said, no, that's my, no, that's all.

My rena no is of this world. I came to look at the I'm going to look at the energy to be if Biden or Trump or the Republicans or the democrats us will be able to save the pellejo. That's what I said, that's Rome. That's the world.

It has nothing to be with us. We have to understand that we have a city that not is of this world and to understand that we're here to inspire, to salar, to change. Not in basis of protest, but in basis of to love.

A person who does, Diggam-a-me. We're going to go to get, we're going to inspire,

we're going to do some and a little of the lewd, permea the society. You do you

do you? In the media, in the politics, in the public, in the publica, in the

universities, we need to get them and can't and change from the culture like Daniel

in Babylonia. You met, you met, like topos in a culture putrid, and

from the world, and that's necessary to do you get to get to be going to

get to be an exulting, the evangelist, you're going to say that said the sendae that's pervirtia,

you're going to be a man, that's going to be a good, but it's good that you can't

be able to because it means that the first that's that's someone who's

someone who who I'm a message and and someone who predicate the word of God, the word of God. You do you do you?

Diggam Amen. Levanted the hands to the sky, I said to me with me Jesus. You receive in my

heart. Let us. Let us. Let us. We're doing those that are in house. I'm in my

life. Enter. In my my heart. Pardon to my pecod.

Anota my name in the book of the life. I'm I'm I'm.

I'm. I'm. Now, all going, let's all around. The same unction that we're the same presence that we're all coming.

We're all, all, all, everyone, I'm doing all right for all. For those who are in the people, for those

who are in people, and Catholic, Muslims, atheist, atheists, Jesus, reformed,

Lutheranos. I want to all right for any religion. No, it's a sceptic, I'm not for you.

Because the Lord says, you know, I am, princessa, I've done my life for you. How you

He's the Lord. I'm all right now. For this presence divine, for this unison, for that mission, I'm going to the confines of the Father, now, now,

of the north, of the south, of the east and the west an unction seye, cea, cece, cece, this word. There, where they're looking in America, Asia, Europe, Africa,

Africa, Oceania, receive, receive, receive, and, says, God, I'm doing something something new. I'm doing

things that no no no-do-you-no-he no have subied to a heart of a man. We're going to go to the arms in combat against the filas-invasoras.

We have to need to get our needed, even if some have to get us in the lobby. The Lord me says that much

have to have to get to out of but he will that he will that people and that's a person, there's a

you. We're we're just waiting. We're we're waiting that evisement and will be that move of

almas and will be that move of repentimenting and God will be that all the things new

blessed you're oh, more, more, more, more, receive now,

say, Lord, I'm seeing things newas and those new things new,

open my mind, abre the mind of your church abe the mind of the

church open the mind for that we'll understand we're our

we're our our our our when he would

not that that I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm but start October with an open mind

start October with the mind open God God

your family. Pastor, God, to give strategies new for the church. No, don't have a problem.

The pandemic, no took it. The pandemic, destroyed the tradition, for that you have a real idea, in the

mountain, in your mountain, in your busk God, God, to do you do that new.

And what I've been never, and you don't have to see what does the other church

and receive nothing of any Congress, I'll be in the intimacyity.

And I'll I'll be my heart says the Lord I pastore are my and you

will be used to look at buskarlas you do you do you do the 909

and you are you are doing for stios repletos after the pandemic there will

be stios but incoversos the majority the those crecients those who will

getarant and will be there are many many many catolics

I'm I'm for a next superclasic, full of people that never piso a church. That the glory those toke.

That the unction is so strong that can't say what you say, nor put it in words. But what comes

is more for those who have been to be not for those that are out. And that people will

and that people will be commoverer and will be impacted because God says, is a

fertile, and will swelos difficult, iran pedigales and spino, but the Lord says, I'll change the soil in questions of hours. Before that terminate, those soils are changed, politicians are commmovied,

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