Dark History - 109: Werewolf Trials, Real Life Dracula, & Where Zombies Actually Come From

Episode Date: October 25, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Look, we've all heard about the Salem witch trials, but do you know that there were werewolf trials in Europe? I know. And what if I told you one of the main reasons vampires became a thing was because of inbred European royalty? Oh, and zombies? Look, they're not as new as you think. They have a rich history that goes all the way back to the transatlantic slave trade. Yeah, we're expecting that one. Where are you? So get out that bag of candy corn and pop that popcorn because today's episode is all about monsters. I know, I love them. I mean, why do we love them? Why do we hate them?
Starting point is 00:00:41 And most importantly, like, why can't we seem to get a Nos? Hi friends, I hope you're having a wonderful day today. My name is Bailey Sarian and I'd like to welcome you to my podcast, Dark History. If you're new here, look here, we believe history doesn't have to be boring. I mean, yeah, might be tragic. It might be happy, but either way, it's our dark history.
Starting point is 00:01:18 So all you have to do is sit back, relax, and just let me ramble and tell you about this hot, juicy, history, goss, because it's juicy, okay? So look, it's Halloween time and who doesn't love Halloween? It's the only time of year when it's socially acceptable to have a house full of spider webs and graves on your front lawn.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I mean, any other time of the year, someone's calling the police, but not in October, baby. Yeah, so just leave October, baby. Yeah. So just leave them out on the lawn instead of burying them in your backyard. Now I've been wanting to look into today's topic for a minute, but I had to wait for the right time or like the right excuse really.
Starting point is 00:01:55 And hey, it's October, it's Halloween. So today actually makes sense, doesn't it? So today, we are talking about monsters. Wow. I mean, where the hell did they come from? Why are they so specific sometimes? And how did these weird-ass creatures come up again in different societies all across the world, but all throughout time?
Starting point is 00:02:17 We make movies about them over and over again. I mean, we even trust up like them every year on Halloween or like for that Halloween party. And still, we never get tired of them, right? Well, today we are going to get to the bottom of it. Talking about where wolves first because Paul is dying to know more. He loves where wolves.
Starting point is 00:02:36 He wants to be one so bad, not a skeleton, I don't know. Drink big. Where wolves? What is it? Well, they are people who turn into wolves at night, usually under a full moon, which is like really romantic. When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a werewolf. Thank you. So werewolf legends have existed in some shape or form for over a thousand years, which means wear wolves have been terrorizing children's dreams since before paper and pens even existed.
Starting point is 00:03:13 I know. Paper? How far back does paper go? We gotta do a dark history on paper because I never even thought about it until right this second. Take note. Thank you. Did you write that down?
Starting point is 00:03:24 Great. So where will stifers show up an ancient literature between 2100 and 1200 BC? In a story called the Epic of Gilgamesh by the 400s BC? Yeah, shout out to 400s. They were like these tales about this Russian tribe called the Newary. And like word on the street was that these men in this tribe, they could actually turn themselves, or they could actually turn into wolves a few days out of the year. Yeah, so only a few days they could be like,
Starting point is 00:03:55 I wanna be a wolf today. And they would. It also kind of sounds like animals. Remember that book as a kid with those covers where it was like a normal person and then they would turn into like an animal It was so random. That's what it reminds me of great. So them as Christianity starts spreading around Europe Belief in werewolves starts being labeled as sinful and pagan like the church didn't like that this idea that someone
Starting point is 00:04:21 Other than God could physically transform themselves from one thing into another, you know? Like, no, it should do that, only God should do that. In the 1500s, there is a huge rise in witchcraft. At this time, people are super paranoid. Everybody's making wild accusations towards one another. Like, neighbors would be accusing other neighbors of cutting off their penis, like doing magic spells with them. Yeah, with the penis, I don't know. Also, there was a lot of people like burning at the stake, times were tough,
Starting point is 00:04:55 times were very tough, they were bored. And basically, if the church was declaring that witches were real, then they have to admit that werewolves were real too. So, they did. So just like with witches, people associated werewolves with the devil. The church declared that only God could physically transform something, so it was believed that anyone suspected of being a werewolf
Starting point is 00:05:17 had made some sort of deal with the devil. I know. Shit. Yep. Pull. One of the first werewolf trials happened in France and it became known as the Polini trial. It all started on a dark night in 1501 in Polini France. There had been a terrible storm that day, and a farmer named Pierre Beergo was looking for his sheep. We should all got lost during a storm.
Starting point is 00:05:52 In the woods, green to Pierre, this is when he was approached by three men on horseback, and they were wearing all black cloaks. As someone shows up wearing a cloak, look the other way and run because no one has anything good to do or say with the black cloak. So these guys, they ask him about his sheet. They're like, where are your sheet? And one of the men promised Pierre that three things would happen. What? That he would find all of his lost sheet and two, that he would be protected and never have
Starting point is 00:06:25 any more troubles, and three, that he would be given money. In exchange, Pierre would have to pledge to quote, serve the man's master and meet with the man again in five days. So Pierre was like, okay, yeah, sure, why not? He wants to sheep back, a sheep are missing and that's how he makes money, right? I mean, it does sound a little vague, but whatever, I'm in, and then Booth, immediately after he says yes, Pierre finds all of his lost sheep. Wow, I know. So five days later, Pierre goes to meet with this mysterious man in the black cloak, and he learns that this guy, his name is Moiseh, and that he was a servant of the devil.
Starting point is 00:07:10 I know, wow, small world, huh? So Pierre is like, he's like, oh shit, I'm in a pickle. But a deal is a deal, you know, it's too late. So he swears allegiance to the devil. He had to, I don't know. And also on top of that, he renounces Christianity forever. Peace out, into the devil now. So according to Pierre, like shit sucks
Starting point is 00:07:32 because he kissed the mysterious man's left hand, yeah, which he described as black and ice cold as that, the corpse. I don't know why he's kissing it, but he did. I think that's how you seal the deal. Whatever, but Pierre goes on to serve the devil for two years. And just as the man promised,
Starting point is 00:07:53 Pierre's flock of sheep was protected. He had good fortune. But deep down, Pierre's like a really good Christian man. So he's like shit, like I need to go back to church, like I kind of miss that shit. So he goes back to church He's like I'm gonna. Yeah church and then he's approached by like another mysterious man He seemed with Michelle Verdeen don't know who he is, but he persuaded Pierre to return to the devil Telling Pierre that the devil would give him even more money
Starting point is 00:08:23 Only if he came with him into the woods. I know, sounds like one of those things they teach you in school. Like if someone offers you money, but you have to follow them into the woods, maybe don't go. You know, like I don't think anything good is gonna happen there, but we're not Pierre. And Pierre likes money, I guess.
Starting point is 00:08:41 So Pierre follows Michel into the woods. They come across this ceremony in the woods, right? So then all of a sudden this Michel guy, he turns into a werewolf. And Pierre, for good reason, loses his absolute mind because what the fuck is going on, you know? So later on, Pierre goes to trial and he shares his experience during this trial. Quote, in a wood, we met with many others whom I did not recognize. We danced and each had in his or her hand
Starting point is 00:09:15 a green taper with a blue flame. Still, under the delusion that I should obtain money, Michelle persuaded me to dance. And in order to do this, after I had stripped myself, he smeared me with a salve, and I believed myself then to be transformed into a wolf. I was at first somewhat horrified at my four wolves' feet, and the fur, with which I was covered all at once. But I found that I could now travel with the speed of the wind." End quote.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Sounds like a party, man. I'm in. What kind of drugs? Acid. Sounds like it. Well, according to Pierre, he spent two hours as a werewolf. Before Michelle robbed him down with that magical ointment and then boof, he became a human again.
Starting point is 00:10:00 And then once Pierre experienced this transformation, I mean, I guess he just could not stop. He really liked it. He and Michelle would go out constantly as wear wolves and terrorize the community. Fun. One day a man from the church is passing through this area and out of nowhere, he's attacked by a wolf.
Starting point is 00:10:20 He actually fights the wolf off and apparently injures the wolf so he can get away Well this man decides to configure out where the this wolf went and follows a little blood trail to see With the leads him to the injured wolf and it leads him straight to Michelle's cabin in the woods this guy knocks on the door and guess what he finds Michelle getting first a treatment from his wife Well this guy who got attacked, I guess he was like a church official,
Starting point is 00:10:47 and he's like, okay, like this is obviously evidence. This man is a wolf, like not just any old wolf, but a werewolf. So he goes back and he notifies authorities, which in the 1500s, I don't know who's in charge, but someone was in charge who's in that one's health care. So Michelle is arrested, he's entwarchored, and ultimately admits to being a werewolf.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And then on top of that, he names Pierre, as is a accomplice. Well friends, it's October. And that means we are officially in fall. Yeah. So it's time to like, cozy up with the blanket, maybe grab a pumpkin spice latte and like, get your flu shot, you know, fall.
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Starting point is 00:13:22 Well, it takes a full day for Pierre to make a full confession because he's like, I don't want to tell you people shit. But then finally, he tells the judge the truth that he was or is a werewolf. So Pierre admits to crimes the court really could not even imagine. And he tells them about a time when he and Michelle had transformed. I guess one night they had like been a wolf or whatever and they saw this woman who was just minding her own business gathering peas, peas, and then they attacked her and tore her to pieces. And then on top of that, like some man saw
Starting point is 00:13:58 and he came and like tried to rescue her, they ended up killing him too. Together, they killed an eight of four-year-olds girl and left only one arm behind. So they're killing people. He told the inquisitor that Michelle fought human flesh was delicious, and that one night, they strangled a girl and drank her blood.
Starting point is 00:14:17 So Pierre even spoke about time when they almost got caught. I guess he had captured a seven-year-old's boy, but the boy screamed so loud that they had to quickly get that weightmen on, like on their skin, and become human again, and get dressed in time to get away without, like, anyone noticing. The inquisitor asked Pierre to transform into a werewolf in front of them to prove that it was true.
Starting point is 00:14:40 The Pierre said that he had to be naked for his transformation to happen. Hot. The Pierre said he had to be naked for whose transformation happened. Hi. Michelle told the court everything Pierre had said was true. Ultimately, they admitted to diabolism, aka making a deal with the devil, murder, and eating human flesh. And that's how Michelle and Pierre became the first men
Starting point is 00:15:02 executed for being a werewolf. And this wasn't just like one off story, because in Germany, there were hundreds and hundreds of cases where people were accused of being werewolves. And it wasn't like it was a fair and balanced court system. I mean, just like with the witch trials, if you were accused of being a werewolf, that was it, you were done, right?
Starting point is 00:15:30 Same with the witches, like, how do you not prove? You're not, how do you not, whatever. The court had to plan of the wrong. Basically, it was like torture someone until they admit to being a witch or a werewolf, and then once they confess, then you kill them for being a witch or a werewolf. And then once they confess, then you kill them for being a witch or a werewolf. And that's how you got them.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Most of the time, the accusations were started by people looking for revenge for petty reasons. Like if you didn't like your neighbor Brad because he kept you up until 2 a.m. playing the harmonica for some strange reason, you can't sleep, can both. Guess what? You've got all the power, baby, because you can walk your little ass over to the church the next morning, and you tell them that you want to report a case of Lycanthropy.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Whatever the hell that is. Well, Lycan is the Roman name for Wolf, so like this became the official term for the crime of being a werewolf. And this was a surprisingly easy claim to make back then. All you had to say is that, I don't know, you saw Brad transform into a werewolf last night. Like, oh my god, it was nuts, you guys. You just saw it. You change your werewolf. And like, he's like in like, rar and like, it was crazy. You guys must have, you just saw it. And this sort of essentially would be a death sentence for Brad. because ever since the Polini trial of Pierre and Michel were wolves, were everyone's like worst nightmare. The most famous
Starting point is 00:16:49 case of someone accused of like Hamptoppe happened in 1589 in a small German town near Cologne. I know I love Cologne, it smells so good. This case involved a man named Peter Stump. I mean, there's not much on record about his life, but what we do know is that he was a farmer, he was a husband, a father, and really no one paid much attention to poor Peter, because he was just normal, right? He did his work, he kept his head down, life goes on, you die.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Now, even though this is like the most famous case of Lycanthropy, no court records or transcripts have survived. So everything we know about Peter and his trial comes from pamphlets and hand bills or like news articles that came out during this time. But the story goes that after a series of murders in the town of Bedburg and Cologne, the villagers start to patrol the town in packs. I mean, they want to find out who is responsible and hopefully catch them in the act. And finally, it happens. They see a rabid wolf
Starting point is 00:17:47 on the hunt, and the villagers chase it. They were sure this was the werewolf responsible. Now, there are a couple different versions in terms of what happened next. Some sources say that the wolf transformed back into a human by removing a magic belt. And the wolf that the villagers were chasing became Peter Stump. Another account, which you can find in something called the Nuremberg Broadsheet, says that a farmer was attacked by a wolf one night, but was able to get away by chopping off the left paw of the wolf with a knife. Later, the farmer sees that Peter's stump is missing his left hand.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Coincidence? I think not. Apparently this, it was enough to go to the church on suspicion that Peter and the wolf are one and the same. BOOM! What? Peter, poor Peter, he is caught that night and arrested. And then on top of that, tortured.
Starting point is 00:18:48 They attack him to the rack, which if you don't know what the rack is, you need to watch our medieval torture devices, which the rack is horrific. It's a horrific torture device. So they put him on this thing and then Peter confesses eventually to being guilty and then goes to trial. But of course, he's gonna confess. He's been tortured. I would confess, too.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I'll say whatever you want me to say, if you're fucking ripping me in half, right? I know. So in his trial, Peter says that he made a pact with the devil to become, you know, a werewolf, as one does. And it seems like this was the 1500s version of pleading insanity.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Like you're on or you're on or you swear. I can't be responsible for my actions. And it seems like this was the 1500s version of pleading insanity. Like your honor, your honor. You swear, I can't be responsible for my actions. I was aware while fat at the time. Zah. In some versions of this trial, Peter pled guilty to transforming into a wolf via that magical belt situation. I guess it was a gift from the devil himself. The devil gifted him a belt, a Gucci belt.
Starting point is 00:19:46 And it could keep Peter in his wolf form for up to seven hours in a, at a time. Oh, I'm right, I'm right, sure. Does the wolf still wear the belt? Or does it disappear once he turns to him? Because I'd be kind of cute to see a wolf with like a little belt. And me, you know, busy wearing pants.
Starting point is 00:20:03 No, because he's naked. The only way to become aware of what was to be naked, except for the belts, I got questions. Anyway, oh wait, I'm the devil, I made that up. He's lying. Peter goes on to confess to the court that he was responsible for 16 human murders and the deaths of many animals of nearby farmers.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Oh shit, Peter, you did a lot. Now of those 16 people, I guess like 13 of them are kids. Whoops, but he didn't just like kill them, you know, because why stop there? He also committed cannibalism with their corpses and one of his victims was Peter's own son. Okay, yeah, this guy's a little fucked up. Now Peter, he openly confessed to eating his son's brain, but correction everyone, he did so as a werewolf. So technically Peter didn't do it. It was a werewolf.
Starting point is 00:21:00 So, you know, he didn't do it. Peter also confessed to raping and murdering two pregnant women. He told the Inquisition that once the women were dead, he ripped open their stomachs and allegedly ate their children. Alright, Peter. So Peter even admitted to raping his daughter and having an affair with his sister. So I guess it's safe to say that maybe yeah, he should just be locked up forever and burned at the stake actually yeah do it Apparently he also added 25 year sexual relationship with a succubus Which is like a type of demonic creature that takes the shape of a beautiful woman So he had a lot going on. He was a really busy man
Starting point is 00:21:39 Understandably the town decided Peter was indeed a piece of shit Even if he was a werewolf and they decided he deserved't a piece of shit, even if he was aware of Waltz. And they decided he deserved the worst kind of death. So they put him on one of these like turning torture wheel things and it stretches his body.
Starting point is 00:21:54 So Peter was completely stretched to the point where like his bones broke and then they skinned Peter like they got all this flesh off. And then finally they decapitated him in front of a huge crowd and burned his body. You want to talk about extra? These people were extra. They did the most, but he did a lot about
Starting point is 00:22:11 things, so whatever. And then afterwards they put his head on a stake in the center of town just to remind everyone of what happened and what could happen to them if they want to misbehave. and what could happen to them if they want to misbehave? It's just a lot, right? Yeah. You imagine where you live now, like, before you go to Target, you would see a bunch of heads on a steak. Would you still go to Target? Yeah, but I would be like, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Anyways, someone once wrote about Peter's stomp saying, quote, of all other that ever lived, non-washed comparable unto this hell out." End quote. Some historians believe that Mr. Stump over here was actually a scapegoat for a lot of like the Christians versus Protestants fighting that was happening at the time. And like, oh, that actually might be true. But there are others that believe he was just a bona fide serial killer
Starting point is 00:23:06 and people are trying to make excuses for this man when he does not deserve it. I guess we'll never know. Then why are all of his like, the paperwork and stuff missing? Maybe someone got rid of that on purpose. I don't know, just a thought. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Oh my God, that scared me. God, I thought someone was watching me. Okay, so something that's kind of messed up on top of all of this. You remember how Peter raped his sister and his daughter, allegedly, but like, okay, allegedly, well, they also, they got the death penalty for being a crimeist in his crimes.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Man, living by them is a suck ass. Right? Being a woman, huh? Peter some story only gave the werewolf legend a whole new terrifying image in people's minds. I mean, he ate his son's brain. Right? Like, that's gonna keep you up at night. My thought was like, I wonder if he got any smarter. Because he ate brain. There's a theory there. I've ever tried to cancel a subscription and found it completely impossible to find the cancel button. Hello.
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Starting point is 00:26:00 That's rocketmoney.com slash dark history. Rocketmoney.com slash dark history. Today, historians believe that werewolf stories like this one were popular because they help some people make sense of the horrific actions of serial killers. Science, the society in general did not understand how a human could be so sadistic. So the legend of people transforming into wolves kind of helped them process the horror. Like a human kind of possibly eeousens brain, but maybe a wolf could, you know, people still do this today. Like it's a very common thing. Our brains naturally try to come up with some answers and excuses as to what might have happened instead of the truth. It's very interesting. Looking back, the reason were while trials popped off
Starting point is 00:26:47 the way they did in Western Germany and France, especially, was most likely because these were big farming areas with high concentrations of wolves. Therefore, they had the highest number of wolf attacks. It's been estimated that 30,000 people were executed for being werewolves from 1520 to 1630, and that's just in France. Isn't that nuts?
Starting point is 00:27:14 You only hear about the witch trial. When I heard about this, I was like, holy fucking shit, what? That was my reaction. England on the other hand, almost completely eradicated wolves by the 1500s. So it makes sense that there are zero records of any like Anthropy charges there. A biologist, his name was Edward O. Wilson, actually explained why Germany was so obsessed
Starting point is 00:27:37 with wolves and were wolves. He went on to say quote, we are not just afraid of predators, we are transfixed by them. We weave stories and fables and chatter endlessly about them because fascination creates preparedness and fairness survival. In a deeply tribal sense, we love our monsters." End quote. Now the next monster on my list is one that is very,
Starting point is 00:28:01 hmm, shall we say controversial? Throughout history, there's always a version of this monster that changes more than any other mythical creature. I mean, I'm talking about vampires. Yeah, we're just doing a whole Twilight show right now. We're just going through the Twilight list, I guess. But vampires, yeah. Now, people have a lot of mixed feelings about vampires.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Some people like them, some people hate them, some people think like they're kind of hot. Same, you know? I love vampires personally because, you know, everyone has a different thing that pops into their brain when I say vampire. Bluffee the vampires layer. Sparkly twilight vampire.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Tom Cruise, you know, Scientology, you get what I'm saying. But when I was researching vampires, I learned about a book that just blew my mind. This book was called The Black Vampire. It was written by an abolitionist named Uriah Derrick Darcy, and it was all about an enslaved person who was murdered at a Haitian plantation. He's brought back to life somehow as a vampire and as soon as he's back, he's out for revenge. Okay, so spoiler alert, he ends up killing his olden slaper, then goes and frees other enslaved people on the island. Now this is so they could all start a revolution and end slavery. I was like, ooh, that's deep. And it led me down the rabbit hole on the origins
Starting point is 00:29:32 of vampires. And surprise, surprise. The world's first vampire comes all the way from ancient Egypt. Her name was Segment. She was a goddess of like many things like war, chaos, plague, healing, and even the desert sun itself. She was really running shit, okay? An Egyptian art she's depicted as having a lioness head, but most important to know about her was that she had a taste for blood. So she wanted to drink as much of it as she could get her hands on and She was the daughter of the most important Egyptian god raw raw was known as the father of creation One time Ross sent Smith to kill the humans who weren't loyal to him So she's like, okay, I got you down and she ends up killing a bunch of humans
Starting point is 00:30:23 Then she drinks their blood, but the problem was she couldn't stop. She starts killing anyone inside just so she can drink their blood. And honestly, she couldn't even stop herself because she would want more and more and more. Now Rossi is this and he's like, oh shit, whoopsie, I shouldn't have sent her.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Like she's going to kill all of the humans who worship me. And that's what exactly what she was doing, not long after she was sent to go kill or whatever, Seth met just started murdering any innocent people that she saw. So Ra tries to verbally reason with her, but she can't stop herself. So Ra needs to come up with some kind of plan
Starting point is 00:31:03 to get her to stop. So he takes a lot of beer like thousands of containers of beer and he ends up dying, dying the liquid like this deep red. And then he dumps it into the Nile River. Now not only does this turn the water red, it also floods Nile River. So it just kind of looks like a river of blood. So raw wasn't messing around. And when Seckmet sees the red beer, she falls for it. She just goes to town, drinking and
Starting point is 00:31:32 drinking until she gets so wasted off the beer that she passes out. And I guess that ends her reign of tear. She just goes home and sleeps off the hangover. Seckmet was not technically called a vampire, but the basic element of wanting to drink blood is there. And the Nile River does still flood sometimes. Scholars believe the story of bloodthirsty Seck-met used to help explain the yearly flooding of the Nile and Ancient Egypt. And actually, sometimes the waters of the Nile do turn red to this day.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Experts believe it's because of volcanic eruptions near the area, but a lot of people are like segment. Yeah, stories like segments start to influence other cultures, and this leads to vampire stories popping up in cultures all over the world. Some are more wild than others, and one of the craziest versions of a vampire comes from the Philippines. And Filipino folklore, there's a monster called the Manonin Gaul, and she's a mouthful.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yes, she. Men have wear wool of swim and have vampires, tomato, tomato, we're all killers. The Manonin Gaul is a vampire-like creature that during the day takes the form of a beautiful woman, but at night She turns into her true form a woman with giant bat wings and sharp claws. Yeah, I guess she also detaches from her torso I guess she flies around with no legs Sorry, it's not funny, because that's really scary.
Starting point is 00:33:05 But still, she's finding around, she has no legs, and I guess her intestines are like hanging out. You guys got a lot going on over there, I understand. She creeps into houses through the windows, and then she sticks out her long tongue, and she puts it into a victim's body through any of their holes. Nose, ear, mouth, ass, take your pig. If you've got a hole, she's gonna tongue it. And she doesn't drink your blood.
Starting point is 00:33:29 She's set to feed on her victims and testions. And her favorite were said to be pregnant women and children. A man and a girl can be killed if you season. It's like, you know, this part really got me and I was up all night like, what, but like basil or something, I don't get it. Yeah, season. Spring falls, some salt or garlic on the legs.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Because of this, she won't be able to reattach to her legs. If she can't get back on her legs before daylight, then she's dead. So bizarre, right? That one's creative. You can also like stab her with a bamboo stick. So yeah, that's another option. Garlic stabbing, creeping through windows, we get closer to like the
Starting point is 00:34:12 vampire many of us know today. But vampire stories aren't really a widespread phenomenon yet. It's more specific to each culture and region. If you own your own business, you know the influx of holiday rush is just right around the corner, right? And like keeping track of all those orders on your own, especially, can be so stressful. Well, listen, you don't have to do it alone. You can prepare your business for the season and save time and money with ShipStation. Ship station can help you automate your shipping cost and returns and keep costs down with industry leading carrier discounts while your orders just roll on in.
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Starting point is 00:35:50 this, but the main reason was because of a disease called porphyria. It's an extremely rare blood disease that affects your blood's ability to carry oxygen. And the disease would cause issues like cramps and nausea, but it was also life-threatening. With this disease, your blood can't properly give you oxygen. So people would just get these really painful skin conditions and they would just be in a ton of pain. Nowadays, you would get something called a blood transfusion,
Starting point is 00:36:18 but you know, they didn't have this option back then. So people with porphyria just did the best they could to ease the pain. And one of the most important things they had to do was stay out of sunlight. This is because their skin was so sensitive, it would burn like crazy if they got sunlight. Porphyria is believed to have been more common
Starting point is 00:36:39 in the middle ages because of inbreeding. You know, you know what type of people tend to be inbred? Caterpillars? No, the royals. I guess they don't want some like outside rando coming into inherit their millions. So, you know, they each other.
Starting point is 00:36:56 That way their money stays within the family. They're like penny pincers. With inbreeding comes at a price. The people that's affected the most were rich families that come for money. They already tended to isolate themselves from a society and some of them start to develop
Starting point is 00:37:11 this body-morphing blood disease. I mean, hello, they live out of town, they're rich, they can't go outside. Are these people like not vampires? Also in the Middle Ages, over in Romania, there was a ruler named Vlad the Impaler. Oh my God, I forgot to tell you guys bitch, bitch. I stayed up all night, the other night reading about
Starting point is 00:37:33 his Vlad the Impaler. Oh my God, the knowledge I have on this guy. He was sick, he was sick. Anyway, so his official title was Vlad III, or Dracool. And Dracool means dragon and Romania. And he inherited this bad ass name from his father who had joined the military group called the Order of the Dragon.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And when he was just a kid, Vlad's father was murdered near their home by their enemies. And that same night, his oldest brother was tortured, blinded, and buried alive. Vlad, I guess, made it out safe, but understandably, this whole situation just completely changed who he was as a person. He stopped going by just Vlad and started going
Starting point is 00:38:17 by Vlad Dracula. And gasp, I know, we're talking about Dracula. Dracula was actually inspired off this huha, Dracula, or Vlad the Impaler, was known for being just an absolute violent and bloodthirsty leader. He was psychotic. Look, I could do like a whole murder mystery or like a whole episode on this guy because he was bugged up, okay. But in his life, he was said to have killed over 80,000 people and he killed over 20,000 of those people by impaling them. Yeah, I know I was like impaled them with what?
Starting point is 00:38:54 Well, to impale somebody, you've got a job like a sharp stick or a spear right up through their body. And Vlad said that he would really like to warm up the tip and he would like to leave them kind of dull because it was more torturous. It was so gross. And then he would just like put him, put him butt and have this thing come out of the mouth and he would just leave them to bleed out. Yeah, it wasn't fun because it's not like you died instantly.
Starting point is 00:39:24 It would sometimes be a really slow death. Often he would impale like these people in public outside of his castle. He would just line bodies outside of his palace so he could send a message to his enemies. Don't f**k with me. He apparently loved to tie people up and roast them alive or set whole last buildings on fire. He used to capture enemy prisoners, cut up the bottom of their feet, poured little rull salt in their open wills, and then bring a bunch of goats into lick their bloody salty feet. I know, he was creative, he was bored,
Starting point is 00:39:56 he was psychotic, and he... I am rolling my eyes because some people still think he's the greatest hero of all time. And he had these torture rooms where he would tie people over a giant pyramid shaped spear. And he would lower them on top of it, inch by inch over the pyramid spear and slowly impale them to death. So they must have been big roads. Oh, you can also go on tour.
Starting point is 00:40:24 You can see his castle. If he'd been there, let me know, because I kind of want to go, which is sick. I'm sick. I mean, even though he wasn't wearing a giant cloak or like biting people's necks and drinking their blood, that we know of, he probably was. He was still famous for being absolutely brutal
Starting point is 00:40:41 on Blenderstein, and his shocking life story really inspires one writer. And that writer was Mr. Bram Stoker. You know, Bram Stoker, right? Yeah, a writer born in Ireland in 1847. I guess he never went to Transylvania, never met a vampire that we know of. But he spent seven years researching and writing a book. His masterpiece was called Dracula.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I would gasp, but I'm sure you're putting the pieces together, your understanding where the end spell came from, right? You got it? Good. So Dracula, this book was published in 1897. And thanks to him, we have the playbook for the modern vampire today. Dracula is set in Transylvania and England, and Transylvania is real, and in modern J. Romania, by the way.
Starting point is 00:41:34 The story follows a vampire named Dracula, and Dracula, well, he's got all the classic vampire traits. He sleeps in coffins during the day. He could turn into a bat and also into mist, he sucks blood through a person's neck, doesn't love garlic, and also not fond of crucifixes. And he could be killed with a steak, medium rare. You get it? No, okay. But he could be killed with a steak through the heart or by going into sunlight. I know if this were tinderite's wipe, right. Like, steam, I love steak. Ah look, Dracula was released. Some people were like, ew, it's like
Starting point is 00:42:13 violent, scary, and sexual. And then everyone else was like, what, this is sick. People loved it. Some people were getting like turned on. I mean, sucking blood from someone's neck. Hot. Yeah. And everything you want from a good horse, or, honestly, it also came out not long after tuberculosis, which is a blood disease, and it was smashing through England. But because the science didn't exist yet, people naturally believe that TB was a sign
Starting point is 00:42:39 of something evil and haunting. I mean, of course, they did, why not? They're so creative back then. So this mass fear about blood diseases something evil and haunting. I mean, of course they did, why not? They're so creative back then. So this mass fear about blood diseases translates into Dracula being a head. People love to be scared. We kinda do, huh?
Starting point is 00:42:55 Dracula became the face of empires. And then Dracula was adapted to a Broadway play in 1920, which is so random, because we think about Vlad, the impaler who was like sick as fuck, and then they turn it into like a Broadway play in 1920, which is so random, because we think about Vlad, the impaler, who was like sick as fuck, and then they turn it into like a Broadway play. I got questions, but whatever. And that's how vampires became a household monster. Of course, there have been a few negative things that have come to light ever since Dracula popped off. Well, that impaler guy from one,
Starting point is 00:43:23 some experts believe that Dracula was written from a place of anti-semitism. The vampire character came from like Eastern Europe, where there is a large Jewish population, and the character was written explicitly to not be Christian. And in the book, Dracula also sometimes works with Jewish people to plan his evil deeds. He makes it a point to infiltrate society, which is something Jewish people were accused of back then. And when you take a step back and look at the details, you know, it's not super uplifting
Starting point is 00:43:56 towards anyone but English Christians. This makes sense when you remember that at the time when Dracula was written, there was a lot of anti-Semitism. People love to use monsters as a way to project whatever it is that society is fearing at the time. Kind of reminds me of the witch trials. They were just targeting strong individual women who spoke up. Another example of this is that during the AIDS epidemic in the 80s, vampire movies saw a huge spike in popularity. People were terrified of diseases that were contagious through your blood that you couldn't do anything about.
Starting point is 00:44:33 So now we enter the 21st century and vampires are everywhere we look. I feel like there's a new vampire movie like every week, which I'm not mad about, but all of them, for the most part, still kind of follow the Dracula playbook. Vampires did get a little sexy makeover in the 70s when the author and rice wrote the vampire chronicles. And they got the ultimate glow up when Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise played them
Starting point is 00:44:58 in the movie version of Interview with Vampire. I never saw it, I heard it's good. Don't comfort me, I'll get to it, it's on my list. But all in all, I think we like vampires because honestly, it's kinda hot. Someone wants to bite you on your neck and give you a little suck. Okay, come on.
Starting point is 00:45:17 He can't bug you during the day because he'll explode. Sounds like a dream man. He likes to sleep and stay indoors. Hello, Stainty. So the next monster I wanna talk about is very different from Vampire. Just it has a wild history.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I feel like it's actually not known by a lot of people. I mean, it's definitely a journey. So just stick with me, cause now we're on to zombies. And zombies are a little different than where a wolf is in vampires. They're special. They're like, I'm not like other monsters, I'm a zombie.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Hmm. So first off, every culture fears the undead in some kind of way. It's something that we all have in common, you guys. The concept that someone can die but then come back to life and wanna kill you was legit terrifying. The way zombies are depicted today
Starting point is 00:46:03 is way different than how zombies actually started out. Zombie mythology begins in West Africa. The word zombie can even be traced back to West African languages. The word, Nizumbi, which translates in English to corpse, is where the word zombie comes from. The religion most dominant in early West Africa
Starting point is 00:46:25 was something called voodoo. I know it's not like the voodoo that you and I are probably thinking of. Definitely has its similarities, but not the same. And the voodoo religion, it is believed that a body is just a body run by two spiritual elements. One has to do with your personality and it's ability to talk to spirits
Starting point is 00:46:44 and the other is the part of your physical body and how it moves and functions. In voodoo, there is someone called a bo-core and this bo-core is actually known as a quote, which for higher. They perform magic using dark spirits. Now these acts can be good and evil. The bowcores who would use their powers for evil would sometimes use their powers to create zombies. The bowcore uses spells or potions to trap your mind, memories and personality. So it's basically like wiping a person's
Starting point is 00:47:21 brain clean, the hard reset. And then the Bokor controls the body of that now brainless person to do whatever he wants. And usually that thing was evil zombie work, like attacking other people. Now, zombies are not a huge part of the voodoo religion. They start to become more important in the 1500s right around the time of the slave trade, when Africans are being forced out of their homes and trafficked to the Americas. We also learned that many of those enslaved people were brought to modern day Haiti and forced to work on sugar plantations.
Starting point is 00:47:57 87% of the island's population is thought to have been enslaved. Between the 1500s and 1700s, people from all different countries and cultures were enslaved together, and naturally their beliefs started to mix and morph and change with each other, including the voodoo belief in zombies. Plus, many experts believe the experience of being enslaved created the modern day zombie legend, because think about it, they had no choice but to work and do whatever their captors told them. Simons' laborers brought their enslaved to the south in America. And voodoo beliefs created Creole culture. And that's how the United States was introduced to a version of the zombies we know today. Even though all this was happening, most Americans
Starting point is 00:48:41 didn't know about the legend of zombies. They weren't household monsters like vampires, where this changes in the early 20th century. The United States occupied Haiti from 1915 to 1934 after its president was killed. American soldiers who came back from Haiti were telling stories about the different types of cultures they encountered there. One of these soldiers was a man named William C. Brooke. He published a book in 1929 called The Magic Island. But this isn't totally a good thing. He describes voodoo culture and beliefs, but exaggerates just about everything. He makes it really sexual, like just straight up objectifying the people there. And he makes the culture seem more violent than it was.
Starting point is 00:49:28 He was essentially capitalizing on the fear Americans had of enslaved people and people of color in general. It appealed to the masses. People didn't think like, oh, this is just one guy's take on what he saw. It was the straight up truth to them. The book turned the real culture of voodoo and to the voodoo culture many of us know today. Plus, the Magic Island was the first time most Americans had read about zombies.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Just a few years after the Magic Island was published, the first American zombie movie came out. Then movie is called White Zombie. People were obsessed with the concept of zombies. And pretty soon, word on the street was, if you were a movie maker and you wanted to make some money, you made a monster movie. For over 20 years, monster movies were big in the box office. And zombies, more or less, stay as these mindless creatures who have no desire for cannibalism. But that was thrown out the window in 1968 when a little movie called A Night of the Living Dead
Starting point is 00:50:27 comes out. And this is when we leave behind the African concept of zombies and they get like a whole new identity. The movie is directed by George A. Romero. And it's basically the first time we see zombies like you and I know today. It's about a group of people who get trapped in a farmhouse.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Outside, tons of dead people come to life. And all I want is to eat human flesh. Classic. Perfect. Scary. Boo. Night of the living dead didn't use almost any Haitian zombie legend. I guess the director sort of just winged it, not citing sources. He is not passing turnitin.com, you know? Romero himself said he was inspired by a famous vampire novel called I Am Legend. I haven't read it, but I did see the movie with Will Smith. Actually, I'm lying, because I fell asleep. But I hear, scarred for life, is what a lot of people say. So George Romero's zombies are not servants
Starting point is 00:51:26 to an evil master. Nobody even knows why or how they're coming back to life. It's actually ironic that in Night of the Living Dead, the word zombie is never used. The creatures are called ghouls or unnamed most of the time. But we know those are some zombies, for sure. So zombies don't exist, right?
Starting point is 00:51:46 I mean, who's to really say? Well, in 1962, a Haitian man named Clarevius Narcisse claimed to have been a zombie. He was a worker who went into the hospital for breathing problems. He reportedly died there and was even buried in a cemetery. But 18 years later, yeah. And I know a man walked up to Angelina and
Starting point is 00:52:07 our cease, his clarevius sister in the town square and claimed to be clarevius himself. Multiple people were like, yep, that's him. Good old clarevius. He said he had been dug up, brought back from the dead and forced to work on a sugar plantation. Some people believe he seemed undead, but look, who can I tell you to say? Not me, right? Joan, what do you think, girl? I don't know, maybe he just didn't die. Maybe that wasn't him who died. Ah, seems like monsters are really just a reflection of our own biggest fears. On a personal level, which is why we all have our own favorite monster, but also on a bigger societal level. It's almost like we need monsters to explain our problems.
Starting point is 00:52:54 But look, what I do know is if we don't have monsters, the only thing staring at us in the bathroom here is ourselves. Jump scare scare bitch. Happy Halloween, stay safe and enjoy those monster movies. Well, thanks for listening. Next week, we'll be talking about conjugal visits. Yeah, random hop, but trust me, wow. Where did they first start and why?
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Starting point is 00:54:43 My items for my business. Stephanie, where can I look at what you are making the sewing I would love to know? But yes, I definitely want to do an episode on Palmwell because there's some weird shady terrifying shit around that. And I think I'm going to do it. Okay? So stay tuned. So don't forget to leave some comments for something because I might read them here.
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