Dark History - 135: Dark History: Trafficked & Beheaded!? The REAL Story behind your Disney Favs
Episode Date: June 12, 2024Hi friends, happy Tuesday! Once upon a time, bedtime stories were straight-up R-rated. Kids were being tucked in to tales about cannibalism, SA, body mutilation, and so much more. And the best part i...s, these stories are still around… but disguised… as your favorite *Disney* movies. That’s right, some of your favorite childhood memories have absolutely *horrific* origin stories. I appreciate you for coming by, and tune in next week for more Dark History. Want some cool Bailey Merch? Shop Dark History Merch: https://www.baileysarian.com _______ You can find the Dark History podcast on Apple, Spotify, wherever you listen to your podcasts, and every Thursday here on my YouTube for the visual side of things. Apple Podcast- https://www.apple.co/darkhistory Dark History Merch- https://www.baileysarian.com _______ FOLLOW ME AROUND Tik Tok: https://bit.ly/3e3jL9v Instagram: http://bit.ly/2nbO4PR Facebook: http://bit.ly/2mdZtK6 Twitter: http://bit.ly/2yT4BLV Pinterest: http://bit.ly/2mVpXnY Youtube: http://bit.ly/1HGw3Og Snapchat: https://bit.ly/3cC0V9d Discord: https://discord.gg/BaileySarian RECOMMEND A STORY HERE: cases4bailey@gmail.com Business Related Emails: baileysarianteam@wmeagency.com Business Related Mail: Bailey Sarian 4400 W. Riverside Dr., Ste 110-300 Burbank, CA 91505 _______ Go to https://www.Zocdoc.com/DARKHISTORY and download the Zocdoc app for FREE. Then find and book a top-rated doctor today. Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to https://www.RocketMoney.com/DARKHISTORY. Check Out https://www.Squarespace.com for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch, go to https://www.squarespace.com/DARKHISTORY to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.
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Once upon a time, bedtime stories were straight up R-rated.
Kids were being tucked into tales about cannibalism, sexual assault, body mutilation, and so much more.
And the best part is, these stories are still around, but disguised as your favorite Disney movies.
Work, Disney, work!
That's right, some of your favorite childhood memories have absolutely horrific origin stories.
Some of these stories were written as cautionary tales,
but others, like Rapunzel, were inspired by true events.
Oh yeah.
And spoiler alert, no one lived happily ever after.
In Rapunzel's case, her dad chopped her head off.
If you're ready to learn the dirty truth
behind some of your favorite childhood movies, then stick with me to hear The Dark History of Disney,
Part 2.
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Hey, you know, we're used to fairy tales being lighthearted, aren't we?
Innocent, fun, everyone lives happily ever after, after they learn their lesson, you
know?
And that's because today fairy tales
are considered for kids, right?
But it wasn't always that way, nay nay.
Back in the day, adults told each other stories
because that was just how they entertained each other,
really, I mean, there was no TV, no books.
I mean, but even after books became available to the masses,
not everyone could read.
John Updike, a famous author, said that adult storytelling back then was, quote,
the television and pornography of their day.
Hot. Yeah, I would like to see that reenactment.
Porn but live action? What is that? An orgy?
But it was storytelling back then.
But as society advanced and people became literate,
the tradition of storytelling didn't just die out.
Oh no, it gets handed down to kids.
The same stories that peasants were telling each other
around a fire became popular in Victorian nurseries.
And if they were a little scary or violent,
it was believed that it would help scare a child
into being like better behaved.
In the 1800s, a lot of these oral and written stories
that had been around forever,
finally got edited and published
by people like the Brothers Grimm.
And even though they were considered dark,
they were considered completely normal,
quote unquote, fairy tales.
Totally fine for children at bedtime, okay?
So let's jump into one of my personal favorite Disney stories, Rapunzel.
Rapunzel, Rapunzel, let down your long hair, right?
Yeah, that story's so fun, I loved it when I was little.
But I always thought it was kind of weird that it took Disney so long to make a movie out of it. I mean, Tingled
came out in like 2010. So there was a delay. So what was the holdup, you know? Well, for
one thing, allegedly, in the true story of Rapunzel, her dad kills her. Oh, yes. And
that's just the tip of the iceberg.
The very first written version of the Rapunzel story was recorded in 1600 by an Italian poet
named Giambattista Basile. Without Basile we wouldn't have Rapunzel, Sleeping Beauty
or Cinderella. Just to name a few. Basile created fairy tales based on the oral versions
that had been passed down for generations.
Most of them came from Greece and all across Italy.
So Basile took all these stories, wrote them down
and published them in one big book
that translates to the Tale of Tales.
This came out in 1630 and was a huge inspiration
for the Grimm Brothers.
In Bazille's version of Rapunzel,
things go a little crazy.
It all starts when Rapunzel's mom steals some parsley
from a garden when Rapunzel was just a baby.
Unfortunately, she gets caught and as punishment,
baby Rapunzel is taken away from
her and sold to an ogres, which is a female ogre. I know it was like a Shrek crossover.
I was not expecting at all. Then the ogres locks Rapunzel away in a tower for her whole
life. So I guess that's, that's where we get the whole tower thing from.
But then in 1812, the Grimm brothers take this version
of the story and they ramp things up
to a whole new level of weird.
And then in this dream I had, I'm eating his head off
while he sings, God bless America.
I mean, what do you think it means? Paul, are you even listening to me?
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This is when the name Rapunzel actually comes into play.
The word itself is actually a type of vegetable,
like a parsnip or a radish.
So one night, according to the Brothers Grimm version,
a pregnant woman is having a crazy craving for Rapunzel, the vegetable.
Now there are Rapunzel vegetables growing next door in her neighbor's garden, so the
woman convinces her husband to hop the fence and steal some from the neighbor. So he does.
Hops the fence and gets some. And the next night, I guess he goes right back
and he takes some more.
Well, apparently the husband and wife had a hunch
that their neighbor was a witch.
And this version of the fairy tale was written
at a time when witch paranoia was like at an all time high.
So it makes sense that the Grimm brothers
would wanna change the villain from an ogres to a witch. Because it makes sense for the time. Anyway, for whatever reason, the husband doesn't ask his
neighbor to borrow or have some radishes. I guess it never occurs to him. And when he comes back to
steal more vegetables, the neighbor catches him red-handed. Now this was unfortunate because she was in fact a witch just as they
suspected. So the husband tries to explain like it's for my wife she's got
these crazy cravings you know she's pregnant please forgive me and the
witch is like oh interesting okay so then she tells the guy she's like okay
you can have all the Rapunzel you want if I can have your baby.
That's my witch voice.
I can have your baby.
And okay, so that's, she's asking for a lot, it sounds like,
but in the story, the man agrees
without even consulting his wife.
Once the baby is born, the witch comes
and gets that baby,
scoops that baby right up.
She's like, mine.
And she decides to name the baby Rapunzel
after the radish plant.
So for whatever reason,
the witch decides to raise Rapunzel in a tall tower,
completely sealed off from the rest of the world.
And as she gets older,
Rapunzel grows this beautiful long hair.
And I guess the witch is like, hair, long hair, free ladder.
Okay, I don't know how her thought process,
but that's how I don't know.
So every day in order to visit her adopted daughter,
the witch sings a secret rhyme to Rapunzel,
I guess to prove that it's her.
And then Rapunzel throws her braids down from the tower
and the witch climbs up. So the two of them they hang out, brush her hair, do some homeschooling,
whatever. And like it's pretty impressive of this witch, right? Because do you remember having to
climb those ropes in PE? Like this witch must have had some serious upper body strength, huh?
Good for this witch. But one day, a man is passing by the tower and hears Rapunzel singing.
So he's like hanging outside spying on her all day. He waits until the witch comes for a visit
and learns their little secret passcode. So when it gets dark, this man who was lurking outside pretends to be the witch
and gets Rapunzel to let down her hair.
Next thing you know, boof, Rapunzel is pregnant.
I know, well jumped there, but it happens.
So the witch comes back one day, like a few months later,
and sees that Rapunzel is very confused
about what's going on.
I guess like there was no sex ed happening in this tower because Rapunzel had no idea
that she was pregnant or like what happened to her.
So when the witch finds out she's pissed.
I'm guessing this was all reason that she put Rapunzel up in the tower to protect her
and like now she's dealing with teen pregnancy? Is this an episode of Maury?
The witch chops off all of Rapunzel's hair and banishes her into the wilderness to fend for herself.
When Rapunzel's man comes back that night, the witch pretends to be Rapunzel. And this man does
a little secret code. And the witch tosses down the braids and lets him climb up. He's thinking it's her, you know?
So when he gets up there, he's obviously horrified to find a witch instead of Rapunzel.
So this man is so shooketh that he falls off of the tower and he lands in a patch of thorns.
And I guess he's mostly fine, except that two thorns land exactly in his eyes and he's
blinded. Ugh what a bummer huh? Meanwhile Rapunzel's out like fending for herself in the woods
and she ends up giving birth to twins and she's out there just like raw dogging it just trying to
guess like what do I do? She's in the woods, Prince is blind. So the the prince,
blind prince, is wandering around for years before he finally hears Rapunzel
singing and they are reunited. She cries I guess cuz she's happy she's crying ah
and the tears magically restore his sight. The original true story that inspired
all of these versions of Rapunzel was actually
about a girl named Barbara.
Now this is factual.
Barbara is just a beautiful girl
with a rich dad named Dioscorus.
So yeah, I guess no men were even allowed to look at Barbara without an interview from
Dioscorus.
So Dioscorus is Barbara's dad.
And again, the year is 1275 and this girl's name is Barbara.
Yeah, I just want to stop right there because her name is Barbara.
Barbara goes way back.
The name Barbara?
Way back.
Everyone else had these wild names.
Dioscorus, whatever, whatever else name you can think of. And Barbara. name Barbara way back everyone else had these wild names Diaschorus whatever
whatever else name you can think and Barbara isn't that wild I know I thought
the same thing I was like that's nuts Barbara huh yeah I know so daddy is
strict okay and Barbara's not she's not loving it she told her dad that she was
you know she wanted to date whoever the not loving it. She told her dad that she was, you know,
she wanted to date whoever the hell she wanted to date. And her dad was like, I don't freaking think
so. Lock her up. So this was in Rome and there was a major shift happening with religion. Most people
were so pagan and Christianity was only recently becoming a thing and people did not like it. In the year 1275, Christianity was seen as like
the witch. So Barbara gets locked up, okay, and while she's locked up, she stumbles upon a book,
which I'm guessing was the Bible, because Barbara reads it and she fully converted to Christianity
while she's grounded behind her father's back.
According to Jacobus de Vorgine, who recorded this story,
things did not go well from there.
Barbara's dad discovers she's been becoming
like a Christian in secret,
and he ends up dragging her by the hair to the Roman courts.
I just had an epiphany.
You know how a lot of like Christian women
are named Barbara?
Come on.
Okay, anyways, a judge asked Barbara about her crimes
and Barbara says that she only answers
to the authority of Jesus Christ.
So, you know, it's pretty obvious that at this point,
Barbara is indeed a Christian.
So in the street a mob forms and people start attacking
Barbara. They're like, we've got a Christian. Whoa, like they're so like, oh
So they get really brutal. They attack her cuz she's Christian and they're cutting her up with knives
They're throwing salt in her wounds and then they're burning her skin a
with knives, they're throwing salt in her wounds, and then they're burning her skin.
A bit much, right?
So I guess Barbara is like fighting for her life
when she sees her dad approaching,
and she's like, oh my God, dad, like, please help me,
daddy, you know, help me.
So he picks up his sword, he walks towards her,
and she's like, oh my God, yay, like he's gonna save me.
But then he chops her head clean off.
Wow, all right.
So between that and the teen pregnancy,
I guess I could see why Disney
maybe took their time adapting this one, huh?
Now sitting here thinking like,
what's the moral of this story?
I don't know, here's something here.
I'm just gonna throw some ideas at you.
Tell me if it hits.
Maybe the moral of the story with Rapunzel
is like respect your elders.
Don't get pregnant.
Barbara is an old name.
Moral of the story?
It's been around for a long time, huh?
That's the moral of the story.
We've had Barbaras for way longer than we even
think. Honestly, I think Disney should have went with the OG and like chopped their head off.
That's wild! That's fun. Listen, the other day I was in a mood. I was on one and I decided I'm
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Now the next story, yeah I think it's a lot of our favorites, maybe it's not,
but it was one of my favorite movies growing up
or Disney movies growing up.
It has a hot prince, it has little fairies
and a crow sidekick.
I know I was thinking about this show and I was like,
maybe this movie had a bigger impact on me
than I even realized because I have a crow's sidekick.
I know! Isn't that something?
I'm talking about Sleeping Beauty.
I do like to sleep, huh? Yeah!
I know, the scene where her dress keeps changing colors.
Well, we're here, so surprise, surprise, none of that was actually in the original
story.
The original version of Sleeping Beauty was written in the 1600s by our guy, John Batista
Bazile, the guy who inspired the Grimm Brothers.
Back then when Bazile wrote it down, this fairy tale was called Sun, Moon, and Talia.
And I guess it had been around for years.
Now, just like the Sleeping Beauty you and I know,
it starts with the birth of a princess.
But this one's name is Talia.
So when Talia is born, some wise men show up
and predict that Talia is in big trouble.
They see something horrible in her future, A splinter. That is pretty horrible.
Have you ever gotten a deep splinter? That shit hurts. But anyways, specifically a flax splinter,
which is like a grain used to make clothes. Flax? I don't know. But I guess, you know,
flax splinter, it's gotta suck. So the king is like, no Flax in the castle, period.
He wants to protect his daughter.
But just like the Disney version,
the princess finds herself in a weird room
in the castle one day,
and she finds an old woman spinning thread with Flax.
Somehow Talia gets the Splinter and drops dead. Bummer. I know. Her dad, the king,
devastated. He abandons the whole castle with his dead daughter locked away
inside. I guess a hundred years go by and a random king from another kingdom is
passing by the castle and decides to go inside. He's like, oh cool, abandoned
castle, let's check it out.
So he goes inside, he's like looking around
and this guy, the king, he finds Talia
who has been assumed dead for a hundred years.
And this king is like, oh my God, she's so beautiful.
And he's like absolutely captivated by her beauty.
But instead of like giving her true love's kiss,
like Prince Charming, this king has sex with her.
Rapes her, you know what I'm saying?
I think it would be called necrophiliac, right?
Necrophilia?
I think that's what they call it.
Yeah, that's what they call it.
But sure, guy.
But then here's the twist
Talia is actually not dead. She's a zombie. I know she I guess essentially was in a coma. So after this incident
She gets pregnant and gives birth to two twins
Nine months later the fuck is going on. I know I don't know these back then. Stories were weird. Mind you, she gives birth and all this stuff
all while she is still unconscious.
I don't know.
It's like a Twilight birth, really.
But she gets lucky, I guess.
One day, one of her babies
was having trouble finding her nipple.
So I guess the baby went for the next best thing,
her fingers.
So the baby is sucking on that finger
and I guess it's the cursed splinter finger.
Okay, so the baby, sucking on it.
And this baby is able to suck out the poison
or the curse splinter situation
that was in Talia's finger.
This is the weirdest story I've ever heard, I know.
The baby sucks it out and this wakes Talia up.
Now ain't that some shit.
Just imagine getting a splinter one day
and you wake up a hundred years later,
you now have two babies, twins,
and everyone you know is dead.
You know, it's just like, what year is that?
I'm not even sure what I'd do actually.
Well, at some point, Talia names her kids Sun and Moon.
And we're not sure like exactly when she does this
because she's been asleep.
So maybe when she woke up, she's like,
oh my God, Sun, Moon, that's your names.
Now here's a crazy coincidence.
Around this same time, the Predator King
comes back to visit Talia.
He's like, I'm gonna see if she's still there
and have sex with her.
And surprise, he's like, bummer, she's awake.
Damn it, yeah.
And she has babies now, are those mine?
Fuck.
Responsibility.
The problem on top of like the problem
on top of the problem here is that the king
at this point was already married.
And when his wife finds out like what had happened
and what he did, she obviously was pissed.
So the queen comes up with an evil plan. She orders their cook
to kill the twins while Talia isn't around and then have them cooked and fed to her husband,
the king, unknowingly. That'll teach him a lesson. I guess as the story goes, the cook didn't have it in him to do this, you know?
Instead the cook kills a goat and serves that instead.
The king's wife somehow finds out she's pissed
and she decides that she now has to like kill
not only these babies, but also Talia.
And on top of that, she's like,
you're still gonna cook them, okay?
I mean, you know what they say,
if you want something done right,
you just gotta do it yourself. And this queen was like I'm doing it. So the
queen prepares a boiling cauldron of poisonous snakes and plants like toss
all of them into it and make some kind of horrible soup and at the last moment
the predator king he intervenes and he pushes his wife into the cauldron instead
work so Talia and her twins live wow but I guess they end up with the king so you
know I don't know how happily ever after that is but nighty night I don't know I
mean it's pretty wild that this was like in a kid's book, huh?
Yeah.
But ZLA, you were sure an interesting guy.
Full of imagination.
Or maybe just back then kids were built different?
No, I don't think so.
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This next story is a classic
and it's referenced to this very day.
And it's actually like the very first Disney movie
about a fairy tale.
And it came out in 1937.
Again, it was like based on the original fairy tale
from 1812 by the Brothers Grimm,
except the Grimm version is more PG-13 instead of G.
Oh, and in German, she wasn't known as Snow White.
She was known as Schnee-vitchen.
Okay. Well, in the beginning of the Disney movie, you know, with Snow White,
the Evil Queen stepmother asks for Snow White's heart in a box
when she sends her away with like the Huntsman.
But in the Grimm's version, the Queen asks specifically for Snow White's liver and lungs.
Yeah, because she wants to have them for dinner.
Makes sense.
Just like in the Disney version,
the huntsman doesn't hurt Snow White.
I mean, who could?
Instead, he brings back the lungs and liver
of a young boar for the queen.
And she boils them with salt and eats them.
In the German version, Snow White also runs away
and is taken in by dwarves.
But these dwarves have no names
and no special personalities.
They're just seven dwarves.
The Evil Queen comes calling to the dwarf's house
not once, not twice, but three times
before Snow White finally falls
for her poisoned apple trick.
The dwarves come home to find Snow White apparently dead
and they carry her away in a glass coffin.
Years later, a prince sees Snow White and falls in love.
I know in these old stories, like, um, it's a lot of men being attracted to comatose women.
It's really interesting. It's a theme. I don't know what's going on.
The prince tries to buy Snow White's body off of the dwarves and the dwarves are like,
um, why do you have to make it weird?
Like that's our friend.
What do you want to do with her?
But the prince will not take no for an answer.
And he is begging the dwarves.
He tells them that he will die
if he can't see Snow White's body every day
for the rest of his life.
Necrophilia again, huh?
I don't know.
But apparently he begs and begs and like this works.
They're like, all right, dude, sure.
And the next thing you know,
the prince's servants are carrying Snow White's glass coffin
back to his place.
And when they're doing so,
they accidentally drop the coffin.
And when the coffin is dropped,
I guess it like gives Snow White
the Heimlich maneuver in a way. Like she's able to like cough something up when the coffin is dropped, I guess it like gives Snow White the Heimlich maneuver in a way. Like she's able to
like cough something up when the coffin is dropped. You get it? And a big old chunk of like that poison
apple comes flying out of Snow White's mouth and she suddenly comes back to life. And then after
this Snow White and the prince get married. Then in the story, as punishment for her evil deeds,
the queen is forced to wear a pair of iron shoes
that were heated over a fire.
So they're red hot and they make her dance
and dance and dance, you know,
in these shoes until she drops dead.
Do you remember when we did that episode
of the dancing plague in like,
when was that, season one?
Cross, right?
Ah, do do do do do do do do.
So again, like I was trying to think,
okay, what's the moral of this story?
Do they have moral?
Like, what's the, what's the moral of the story?
I think in this case, or maybe in both of these,
you have a better chance of getting a man
if you're in a coma.
You know?
That's my takeaway.
Okay, and our last story takes a bit of a turn.
We all know Alice in Wonderland, right?
Love it, so great.
It's movies actually based on the book by Lewis Carroll
called Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.
In it, Alice falls down a rabbit hole.
Alice ends up in Wonderland
and goes on to meet all kinds of wacky characters.
She learns about herself
and she grows literally and emotionally and it's fun.
It's different. It's wild. Unexpected. Now this fairy tale is a little different from the ones I
mentioned. It was written in 1865 and was completely created by Lewis Carroll and what caught my eye
about this Disney favorite wasn't the story, it was the author. I know what you're thinking,
Bailey we know the author was probably on some wild drugs
when he wrote the story,
because that's always the rumor or whatever.
I mean, what else could inspire someone to write
about a hookah smoking caterpillar?
Drugs, you would think, right?
Lewis Carroll, who wrote Alice in Wonderland,
wasn't actually named Lewis Carroll.
That was just his pen name.
His real name was Charles Dodson.
I don't know why I can't fucking see that last name,
but I can, okay?
But that's his real name.
He was said to be very modest
and he didn't want his personal life
to become everyone's business,
so he wrote under a pen name.
Or maybe he was hiding something, either way, you know?
To keep things simple, just gonna call him Louis.
Simple for me.
Louis was born on January 27th, 1832
in a British town called Cheshire.
Cheshire, Cheshire, Cheshire Cat.
Makes sense, huh?
I guess he came from like an extremely religious family
with good connections.
And when he was old enough,
Lewis went to Oxford University, just like his dad.
And he kind of never leaves Oxford actually.
He ends up like working there as a librarian
and then eventually gets a job as a math teacher.
Some sad news, there's actually like zero evidence
that Mr. Lewis Carroll was eating magic mushrooms
while he was writing Alice in Wonderland.
I know, he thought of that all himself.
But what he did like to do was hang out with little girls.
Yeah.
And Alice, I guess was based on one of the girls,
little girls he liked to hang out with.
So Lewis's office at Oxford
was apparently right next to the Dean's house
and the Dean of Oxford was named Henry Liddell. And over time, Louis and Henry, I guess, became
buddies. Louis starts to hang out with Henry's family, his wife, Lorena, their three kids,
Edith, Lorena Jr. and Alice. Alice.
Alice was based on a real girl.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
And she was just four years old
when Louis started hanging out at her house.
But it wasn't until one day on a little family boat ride
that Louis and Alice formed their special bond.
Louis apparently made a big impact on Alice
and her two sisters when he started to tell
them a story.
I guess he had made up the story like right on the spot.
Little did anyone know at the time that they were like getting a sneak peek at what would
become you know the most popular child's book of their time, Alice in Wonderland or Alice's
adventures in Wonderland.
Alice loved the story so much that she asked Louis to write it down.
Yeah, she's like I want to remember it and read it all the time.
So he did. And from that point, I guess Alice was his muse.
Apparently Lewis even wrote in his diary about the first time he met her.
I know. Eh, what? Yeah. Normal thing for a 30-year-old math teacher to write about in his diary, some would say. Martin Gardner, a historian, wrote that quote, Carol's principal hobby,
the hobby that aroused his greatest joys, was entertaining little girls, end quote.
Not great, not great, you know? And I was like, okay, maybe he's just like, maybe I'm
like being the perv. Maybe he just really loves kids in an innocent way, you know?
But then I read something else.
Martin Gardner went on to say that Lewis, quote, thought the naked bodies of little
girls, unlike the bodies of boys, extremely beautiful.
Lewis would do these nude sketches and take photographs of little girls.
And apparently he always asked the parents permission first.
So that's good.
We don't have any of these pictures or sketches, which I think is great.
We don't need them.
But Lewis had very specific instructions for them after he died.
He said that these pictures should either be returned to their families
or they should be destroyed.
Which...
Fuck yeah. It's said that Lewis would
make friends with little girls at the beach and on the train and in his bag he always carried
around little toys and puzzles to entertain them. He also carried safety pins specifically
for putting up the skirts of any little girls who wanted to go wade into the water without
getting their clothes wet. which is like so thoughtful.
After Alice grew up, he wrote to her and said, quote,
I have had some scores of child friends since your time,
but they have been quite a different thing, end quote.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what he's saying, but I don't like it.
I wish this was a story about a man who was tripping balls
on mushrooms or something, but no, it's
not.
He just likes little girls.
Yeah.
All right.
Looking back at everything we've learned today, you know, Disney definitely added some flavor,
cleaned things up a bit.
They were heavily influenced by these stories, right?
They just, you know, didn't follow them
all the way through.
You know, it's interesting the way
Disney adapted these stories.
They took a story that featured a creepy predator king
from Sun, Moon and Talia and made him Prince Philip
in Sleeping Beauty.
They took the creep guy who was outside of the building
in Rapunzel and made him into Flynn Rider, in Tangled.
Oh, and then in Snow White, of course,
like the random prince who takes Snow White's body.
You know, in Disney, he becomes Prince Charming
and he rescues her.
Oh, I mean, okay.
All right, Disney, make your money, I guess.
I don't know, they needed inspiration somewhere
and they got it and they just added some spice and had some princes save some women and
called it a movie. Disney really made us believe that like witches were really the ones out there
that we had to watch out for right, but really the whole time it was like the perverts. I don't know.
right? But really the whole time it was like the perverts. I don't know. Anyhow, speaking of disturbing stories, did you guys hear about those people who died because they drank that caffeinated lemonade?
Did you hear about that? That's some wild shit. I read that story as I was drinking a Red Bull.
Not funny, but like I was like, oh shit. But it made me realize like I don't really know anything
about energy drinks. I mean, where did they come from?
It seems like just one day they like popped up
and now there's so many of them, right?
Are they good for us?
I'm gonna say no, but are they bad for us?
And like, what's bad about them?
So I had to get answers.
And once again, it did not fail me
because let me tell you, it's not great.
So tune in next week for the dark history of energy drinks.
Oh, fuck, I know.
I'm sorry.
We'll be talking about it next week.
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Thank you, Moon Goonin.
I like it too, it's super cute.
Yeah.
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Love that.
I'm 59 years old and I have learned way more
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Nikki C8886 said I want the story and conspiracy against crows and ravens.
The fear and stories about how they tie into death.
Nikki, why are you going to do that? Nikki, I've been obsessed with crows, you know, and the disrespect kind of like pigeons.
Did you watch her pigeon episode? Well, if you didn't go watch pigeons,
cause it's kind of similar. They're so smart, crows. And you know,
maybe we should do an episode on them.
I think he would like that.
Yeah.
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And I'm your host, Bailey Sarian.
Have a good day, make good choices,
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