Dark History - 30: The Woman who REALLY Started Rock & Roll: Sister Rosetta Tharpe

Episode Date: February 2, 2022

Do you know who Sister Rosetta Tharpe is? Would you believe me if I told you she’s responsible for Elvis Presley, Chuck Barry, Little Richard, The Beatles, The Who, The Rolling Stones, Jimmi Hendrix... and basically Rock and Roll itself? Today we’re going to dive into Rosetta’s story and learn about how she is the unknown mother of Rock & Roll. Episode Advertisers Include: Liquid IV, StitchFix US, Ship Station, and ZipRecruiter. Learn more during the podcast about special offers!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi friends, I hope you're having a wonderful day today. My name is Bailey Sarian and I'd like to welcome you to the Dark History Library, or the Library of Dark History depending on who you ask. It's the same thing, right? If you're new here, hi. This is a safe space for all the curious cats out there who are thinking, hey, is history really as boring as it seemed in school? Oh, no, no. This is where we can learn together about the dark, mysterious, dramatic stories our teachers never told us about. Sometimes I like to tell you like how
Starting point is 00:00:34 I get to the point of the story. Like, how do I get there? Right? I don't know. Anyways, what I'm getting at is something I like to do for fun, is I like to think of different band names. Okay, because in my mind, look, in my mind, I want an all-girl punk band. Okay, I can't, I don't plan any instruments or anything like that, but I want to be in an all-girl punk band so bad. So if you're down, let me know. I'll play the triangle.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Ding, you know what? Eh. Ding, you know, it'll be so fun. But what I'm getting at is I like to think of different band names in my free time. Okay, and one of my favorites, one of the that I have settled on and you cannot steal this, God damn it, is the pocket pussies.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Is that not great? Come on, it has so many different meanings depending on how you look at it. All girls, we're gonna be like badass, we're like, fuck yeah, I'm just yelling. Mean the back of the triangle. You know, come on. It's gonna be, so let me know if you're interested. We can have matching jackets, patches. It'll be a good time. What I'm getting at though is music. And it fun, sure is. When you look into music, a lot of times it's hard to come across like the really rad all-girl punk band. They're
Starting point is 00:01:52 out there. Don't get me wrong. But I mean how many times do you look at a band and it's just men? Exactly. Like all of them. All the mainstream ones? Yeah. So as white men in their tight pants with no shirt on, we are bored. We are bored. So when you think about it, we have been spoon fed all these years as to what like the music industry or bands specifically are supposed to look like. Especially when so much music was created by black and brown musicians, both male and female. But what do we always see? Hmm. As a melting pot of cultures and identities, the United States takes credit for a bunch of things invented somewhere else. Like apple pie, that's British.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Burger, burger. German, Cowboys, Spanish. Even the tune of the freaking star-spangled banner was originally an English drinking song. So we don't even have that, you know. But rock and roll, now that is totally a homegrown product of the US of A. Hell to the S. And even though its history is complex, rock and Roll has a pretty clear origin story. Anywho, so let me grab my dark history book here and kind of turn to the page of the birth of rock. Here it is.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Birth of rock. Remember back when we did that episode about jazz? Well, if jazz was kind of the dangerous new kid from New Orleans, think of Rock and Roll as her wild child cousin who took a while to find herself. The first ingredient of Rock and Roll is the Blues. Now the Blues reflected the black experience in Southern United States and came into its own after the Civil War and emancipation. It represented freedom of expression,
Starting point is 00:03:45 as well as actual freedom. By the late 1920s, the other main ingredients of rock and roll were beginning to mix together. They were jazzed, boogie-woogie, and jump blues, which was a faster, more lively version of the typical blues. And all these styles were making their way throughout the country, starting to form something that kind of sort of feels like rock and roll.
Starting point is 00:04:10 So then, in the 1940s, all these styles of music are influencing one another, creating cool mashups and inspiring new inventive choices. And this leads us to a genre of music called rhythm and blues. Or R&B. I know what you're thinking. We know what R&B is, Bailey. Slow jams, baby-making music. Well, that's R&B as we know it today. But back in the 40s, R&B was an experience. It was heavily influenced by a more gospel-flavored version of the blues, called the role, along with the rock-abilly nature
Starting point is 00:04:46 of country and western music, which is where we get rock. Do this making sense? And some believe this is where the phrase rock and roll come from, or came from, I should say. While no one is 100% certain, most agree that rock and roll came directly out of the style of rhythm and blues. But what about the name rock and roll came directly out of the style of rhythm and blues.
Starting point is 00:05:05 But what about the name rock and roll? Well some writers use the phrase in a sexual context, as in let's go for a roll in the hay, which is like a phrase I never understood, still don't. Have you ever rolled in hay? It's pokey. That should hurt. Not fun. So actually, did you guys ever see 10 things I hate about you when Heath Ledger makes out
Starting point is 00:05:27 with what's her name in the hay? After they were playing with the paint balls? Come on, that was my favorite moment. Someone remembers over here, I think it's Joan. Joan, you remember that shit? We fantasize about that all day and all night, so I will roll that hay all day if it's with Rest in Peace Heath Ledger. Okay, anyways, rock and roll.
Starting point is 00:05:45 So while much of rock and roll's roots are traced to gospel music, the church was never gonna be her home. Her DNA was too bad ass and disruptive. She belonged in like a sweaty club, dance halls and stadiums, because it was all about being uninhibited, spontaneous and fun.
Starting point is 00:06:02 But the definition of rock and roll really started to take shape in May of 1942, when a music critic for Billboard described a song as rock and roll spiritual singing. Yeah, that song was called rock me, and it was a total game changer. Not only did it plant the seed of what rock and roll would become, but it also introduced
Starting point is 00:06:22 to the world of brilliant 23-year-old guitarist and vocalist named Sister Rosetta Tharp. This very song had a direct influence on a couple of names you may know. Tell this, little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, and over the next few decades Sister Rosetta would invent rock and roll as we know it today. But now let's pause for an ad break. So who the heck is Sister Rosetta Tharp if you don't know and have you ever heard of her? Probably not. How come a lot of us haven't heard of her? Let's talk about it, shall we? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:58 We're gonna do that. So Rosetta Tharp was born on March 20th, 1950 in Cotton Plant, Arkansas, which why don't they call it Arcansis? It makes sense. Kansas, there's an AR. Why is it Arkansas? Anyway, so she's born, step one. She was born to a woman named Katie Harper on a farm where both of them lived and worked. Now Rosetta was special right from the start. This was because music entered her life super early on. Both her mother and her father taught Rosetta's sing right from the start. This was because music entered her life super early on. Both her mother and her father taught Rosetta to sing and to play an instrument. Her mother Katie played the Manzalin and the piano, and her father played the guitar and her Monica. She also started playing guitar by the time she was four years old.
Starting point is 00:07:40 What the hell, kind of genius baby? Genius over here. Rosetta's mom was a traditional evangelist with the Church of God in Christ, also known as Kojik. This Kojik branch was a Pentecostal denomination that was composed totally of black members. In the years after emancipation, it was incredibly important for black Americans to have their own places of worship outside of white oversight.
Starting point is 00:08:06 This provided community, humanity, and a safe space, which was necessary because of how the country was back then. And even though her mother wasn't allowed in the church band, women in Kojit could be music teachers or Evangelists, and they were given titles such as Mother or Sister. Now most Pentecostal denominations demanded its members live clean and not give into worldly desires, meaning no booze, smoking, no sex outside of marriage, gambling, or no social dancing unasties. While Kojik was not a fan of these worldly desires, they urged their members to shout their
Starting point is 00:08:46 teeth with everything from drums to trumpets to guitars. And even bodies could be used as percussion instruments. Yeah, that sounds wild, but I mean just like clapping their hands or stomping their feet. So Kojik's services were exciting and dramatic with preachers who painted horrifying pictures of hell and lovely images of heaven. And the music was joyful and vibrant, incorporating elements of blues and ragtime as they sang slave spirituals and traditional hymns.
Starting point is 00:09:15 So Rosetta loved going to church services. This is where her first musical experiences took place, where she laid the foundation for her future rise to stardom. Despite the liberal attitude toward music, women in Kojik were helped to strict standards of modesty. No makeup, no jewelry, no fancy outfits, simply put, the women were very regulated. And this was because a church believed that these rules helped shield the women from degrading ideas that black women were wicked temptresses and sexually shameless. The church was real serious about how their women behaved. So when they found out Rosetta's mom hadn't always abided by those rules, they lost their
Starting point is 00:09:57 shit and completely turned their backs on them. This wasn't excommunication or anything like that. Kojik shunned them completely. And even though Rosetta and her mom were so firm believers in Kojik, this changed the course of Rosetta's life forever. I always say forever, forever. So when Rosetta was around five or six years old, the church discovered that her mother Katie was not married when she gave birth to Rosetta. In fact, she wasn't married at all. And this was a huge no-no.
Starting point is 00:10:29 A prime example of giving into worldly desires and living secular instead of sacred. So, the Kojit community in cotton plant shunned both Katie and Rosetta. Rosetta and Katie are left to pick up the pieces and now during this time there was a rising national tide of violent racism when black soldiers returned from world war one were abused, lynched, and even burned alive. The terrific period would later be known as the red summer of
Starting point is 00:10:57 1919. So black southerners began leaving the south by the thousands in search of economic opportunity and freedom from segregation and violence. The hope was this could be found in the North, and this became the start of what we know today as the Great Migration. So Katie looked at young Rosetta and a light bulb went off. Within their church, Katie could be an evangelist preaching the Word of God while Rosetta performed in saying and the drawing people in. To Katie this was a sign from God that Rosetta was ready for something bigger. Plus this was a way that they could make money. So in 1921 when Rosetta was just six years old she and Katie left cotton plant and moved to Chicago and now let's pause for a quick little ad break. Welcome to Chicago in the early 1920s.
Starting point is 00:11:50 At this time, the city was kind of lawless. Forhibition was in full swing, and speakeasies were the underground spots where thirsty Chicago winds could get some hooch. Wink, wink. I guess hooch is alcohol. I was thinking it was pase, but it's not. It's alcohol. The north side Irish gang was at war with the Italian mafia, called the Chicago outfit, and both sides were paying off cops. While all this was happening, black citizens and people of
Starting point is 00:12:18 the Great Migration settled on the south side of the city, including Katie and Rosetta. And around this time, Katie starts to go by the name Ma Bell. As soon as I hit the streets of the windy city, they stood out. Rosetta would accompany Ma Bell while she would preach on the street corners and in church. Their first stop in the city was the Kojik church, which was simply known as the 40th Street church. And Rosetta splashed onto the 40th Street scene almost immediately because somebody would play the piano while Rosetta sat on top of it singing and playing the guitar.
Starting point is 00:12:53 People who saw Rosetta play were just an awe of how well she could play and how young she was, right? And they were calling her a singing and guitar playing miracle. I mean, it's not an overstatement to say Rosetta was a prodigy, incredible. In Chicago, Rosetta discovered music as a way to earn other people's approval. And only that, other people's money. For Rosetta, this was when music became more than just a way to be spiritual. It was a means of survival. And while Rosetta sang at Fortiest Street,
Starting point is 00:13:26 the church collected money from people visiting. At the end of the service, they'd put in an envelope and present it to Ma Bell. But Rosetta doesn't want to keep playing churches. I mean, she wants to go big time. Name and lights. Super style. So around this time, Ma Bell unofficially becomes
Starting point is 00:13:44 Rosetta's manager. Now historians say Rosetta didn't have a manager at this point, but Ma Bell would book performances, collect the cash, and make sure Rosetta was ready for the next day. So it sounds like a manager to me. And as her momager, a very strict Ma Bell limited Rosetta's exposure to Chicago's booming secular music scene. Because at this time, Rosetta was only singing spiritual music because according to Ma-Bell
Starting point is 00:14:13 and the Kojik congregation, that's what a good Pentecostal girl did. Around the time she was 15, Rosetta and her mom hit the road and traveled what was known as the gospel circuit. Basically a road trip for Jesus. Oh, Jesus! Basically a road trip for Jesus.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Rosetta paid her dues performing everywhere from Pentecostal churches to tent meetings and revivals. She learned how to project her voice over the congregation, which was shouting, crying, and singing for the Lord. Now during this road trip, Mom Bell was trying to save the sinners, but to Rosetta, that didn't really matter. She just wanted people to get something from her music, be inspired, hear her voice, simple as that. But she also wanted to have some fun while she played, and this is where Rosetta's iconic guitar playing starts to take shape. You see most guitars at this time just strum some chords and hope for the best. Rosetta noticed this left a lot of dead space when they weren't singing, so she developed a new style of guitar playing where she would fill that dead space with individual notes to compliment her voice in order to make her performances non-stop
Starting point is 00:15:25 crowd-pleasers. Now she was adding her own personality to the music, which became one of her iconic trademarks. Rosetta got so good at picking the guitar, people said that she made her guitar talk. Remember how I described services at the Kojik Church? Well, her guitar playing parallel to religious practice of speaking tongues, almost as if God was speaking through the instrument.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Now, this style of playing made the guitar an extension of the person playing it, and this technique was, and is still copied pretty much, by every major rock guitars ever. Around this time in 1934, a-year-old Rosetta met a traveling preacher named Tommy Tharp. Rosetta met him while touring the gospel circuit with Maubel. They ended up getting married and performed the gospel circuit, but it led people to think of their relationship as more of a business transaction.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah, so rumors are swirling that Tommy would beat and cheat on Rosetta, and this type of toxic relationship would follow Rosetta until her death. But true or not, these rumors would follow Rosetta, Marbell, and Tommy through the gospel circuit and all the way to Miami. Rosetta's home base became Miami Temple, which was the area's biggest Kojik church in the 1930s, and people were coming in big-ass numbers to listen to Rosetta. The church broadcasts and Sunday programs on a white radio station, so Rosetta's voice and guitar started reaching a wider audience. And soon enough, people all over began attending services at Miami Temple.
Starting point is 00:17:00 All of this created a rift in the marriage between Rosetta and Tommy. Now whether it was because of the abuse or because Tommy was jealous, the marriage was on the rocks and Rosetta needed to escape. Now that Rosetta knows her music has the ability to cross over to more mainstream audiences. She decides it's time to strike while the iron is hot. So Rosetta ends her marriage with Tommy. She packs her bags and she heads out to New York. Welcome to the Cotton Club in 1938, the heart of Broadway. The Cotton Club was the place to be for Black performers. It came into its own and missed an explosion
Starting point is 00:17:36 of Black American creativity for singers, writers, actors, and theater companies. But there was one problem. The Cotton Club had explicit no blacks allowed policy with the exception of visiting black performers. Even the original stage was a replica of a plantation. Cheezus, take the goddamn wheel. Large white columns with weeping willows and slave quarters. Yeah, we're talking major racists over here, but the Cotton Club had a radio wire that broadcasted across United States and internationally, so it was one of the best places for black musicians to be seen and heard.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And because of that, black performers sucked it up, I mean, if it meant that they would get some stage time. And one of these performers was our girl, Rosetta. Originally, the club signed Rosetta for just a two-week gig as an opening act, but right away she stood out with her unique style and unusual sound. Rosetta would come on stage and gown with a quiet print, her hair curled in no jewelry. She would crack some jokes before she grabbed her guitar and started ripping into a kind of guitar playing. These white audiences had never seen before.
Starting point is 00:18:45 It was new, it was different, what is this girl doing? Rosetta shouted her vocals as if she were standing at the front of a church. Critics often struggled to find the right words to describe her, some called her a swinger of spirituals, and others labeled her a hymn-swinging evangelist. What they were trying to say was that she was fucking... ...brockin' it, she was killing it, she was a great... ...they loved her. So very quickly, the Cotton Club gave her an even better contract that made her a full
Starting point is 00:19:14 blown headliner. And as a headliner, she gave herself a new name, Sister Rosetta Tharp. A star is born! So that same year, 1938, Rosetta inked a deal with a label called Deca Records and made a record. On this record was the song Rock Me and it showcased Rosetta's incredible guitar style and melodic blues mixed with her gospel roots and holy shit did it launch sister Rosetta into the stratosphere. She was just 23 years old at the time and became Gospels' first real hitmaker.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Now even though Sister Rosetta was going against church doctrine by performing in secular venues like nightclubs, she still did her best to not totally offend the church. But it was precisely at this point when the church community started to push Rosetta away. The lyrics to rock me are pretty much in line with what you would expect from a love song. There's references to Rosetta being rocked by a cradle of love, a desire for two people to burn brighter. Just really sexual language, I mean according to them. But the twist is that the other person in the song is Jesus.
Starting point is 00:20:24 And the way Rosetta performed Rock Me, But the twist is that the other person in the song is Jesus. And the way Rosetta performed rock-me, made people think it was about sex. So a lot of the church crowd ostracized her. But Rosetta wasn't turning back. She had money and fame to go get. Not her fault they didn't understand the song. Geez, you nasty. It's about Jesus.
Starting point is 00:20:42 You nasty. So by 1946, two things happened. The first was at Rosetta recorded a single called Strange Things Happening Every Day. Now this single became the first gospel record to hit Number 2 on billboards race records charts, which today is known as the R&B charts. This specific song has been called the first rock and roll record.
Starting point is 00:21:04 And second, Rosetta survived another not-so-great-marriage. There was a second guy somewhere in there, but he's really not important to this story. What is important is that out of all this, Rosetta was having relationships with both men and women. Although she was open about her sexuality within her inner circle, she kept the secret from the public. I'm for good reason, because surprise, people are still not that welcoming about it today, especially from the church, the Kochik congregation. Yeah. And there was one specific relationship that meant more to her than
Starting point is 00:21:38 others. Was it Jesus? That same year, 1946, Rosetta went to a concert that would change the course of her career. The headliner of the show invited a performer by the name of Marie Knight on stage. Rosetta would later say that hearing Marie play was musical love at first sight. I mean puppy eyes. Marie was born in Newark, New Jersey in the early 1920s. And Marie, a natural born singer, had a couple of kids from an earlier marriage. After hearing her sing, Rosetta approached Marie
Starting point is 00:22:12 with an offer to collaborate, she said, girl, we should collab. So they hopped in Rosetta's tour bus and hit the road. Over time, these two became very close. How close was it known for sure some of our damn business, but some say it was an open secret in the gospel community that Rosetta and Marie were lovers. So this duo was revolutionary. Two queer black women who toured by themselves relied on no men and took control of all their
Starting point is 00:22:37 own business decisions. All while they were continuing to perform sister Rosetta's rock and roll sound, groundbreaking information is happening. all while they were continuing to perform sister Rosetta's rock and roll sound, groundbreaking. Information is happening. But then an unexpected tragedy struck. While on tour in California in the 1940s, Marie received a telegram stating that her mother and two children were killed in a fire. All this grief and strain proved to be too much for Marie, so their tour came to an end
Starting point is 00:23:04 in Rosetta and Marie Marie split as a duo. Shortly after this, Rosetta's career took a bit of a hit as well. And not only was she facing backlash from the gospel community for giving into worldly desires, she wasn't putting out as many hits. Anyways, let's pause for an ad break. And we're back! Anyways, let's pause for an ad break. And we're back! So by now, it's the early 1950s, and Rosetta needed something big to bring her back into
Starting point is 00:23:31 the limelight. Something that was going to turn heads and make people talk. That's when a couple promoters from Washington, D.C. approached Rosetta with an idea for a giant spectacle of a concert. The promoters tell her that there's this venue called Griffith Stadium that has been used for sporting events in like big religious revivals. Now unlike Ma Bel, Rosetta wasn't an evangelist, so she couldn't lead a revival. But there is a religious event that Rosetta can be a star of.
Starting point is 00:24:05 A splashy affair with amazing outfits and a stage where Rosetta can perform. That's when the idea hits them to combine a musical concert with a wedding. It was the PR stunt to end all PR stunts. Amazing. But there's just one problem. Rosetta isn't engaged. So the promoters built it into the contract that she had just one year. Rosetta is an engaged. So the promoter's built it into the contract that she had just one year to find a man. This sounds like some kind of weird-ass movie. Does it not? Sounds like one of those holiday Christmas movies. Hallmark? So, with the clock ticking, Rosetta heads back out on the road and this is where she meets
Starting point is 00:24:40 a man named Russell Morrison. Now, Russell was born in 1917 in Pittsburgh, and like Rosetta, he grew up without his father in his life. And as soon as he graduated from high school, he moved to Harlem. While he wasn't musical, he was drawn to the glamour of the jazz scene, so he did whatever he could to make himself useful to musicians.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Now people who knew Russell called him lazy and like a dreamer, schemer. But whether that's true or not, we know for sure he was willing to do whatever it took to live a life of Glitz and Glamour. Rosetta had that and she needed a husband. So it was, I guess it was a perfect match. And then the big night arrives July 3rd, 1951. Welcome to the wedding of sisteros at a tharp and rustle morson. It's a hot and humid summer night in Washington, DC. The cities in the middle of a mass transit strike, so trolleys and buses aren't moving,
Starting point is 00:25:40 they're not going anywhere. There's even a major league baseball game happening on the other side of town, but despite all of this, 20,000 paying customers showed up to what was built as the most elaborate wedding ever staged. Plus, the world's greatest spiritual concert. That's how they advertised it. Because everyone knew the wedding was a sham, even the local preacher cracked jokes
Starting point is 00:26:04 about whether or not Russell had enough money to buy the ring. So, Wedding Bell's ring and sister Rosetta officially married Russell. Just after they sealed the deal with the kiss, Rosetta still in her wedding dress, strapped on her custom white electric tar and proceeded to rock the hell out of those 20,000 fans. So you're probably wondering on what the hell does this big fake wedding have to do with rock and roll bailing get to the damn point. Well, most people say the first major stadium concert
Starting point is 00:26:34 in the United States was the Beatles performance at Shea Stadium in 1965. And then some other people say that Janice Joplin, a bad-ass musician in her own right, was the first American female stadium rocker. But Janice was just seven years old when sister Rose had a tharp sold out a stadium. And surprise, surprise, it also happens to be 14 years before the Beatles ever did. And what did Janice and the Beatles have in common?
Starting point is 00:27:02 Anyone? Anyone to any guess? If you guessed white skin, you win a brand new understanding of the problem with the history of rock and roll. Remember how I said earlier that rock and roll came from rhythm and blues? I know you do because we're smart.
Starting point is 00:27:18 You're a good listener. Well, at the time, R&B was mainly performed by black artists for black listeners. And how do we know this? Well, Billboard, the music charting company, started tracking songs in 1940. They were three big categories. Pop, country, and western, oh country and western, I'm sorry, that's like together. And R&B. Every week they published lists of the songs most consistently sold in record shops, requested in jukeboxes and played by DJs.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Now here's the thing. The Billboard charting system assumed that the market was segregated on racial lines, but how would they know if something was a pop hit versus an R&B hit? Well, it all came down to where the songs were being sold and played. If a store had mostly black customers, then it would, then it must be an R&B hit. They're making assumptions. And you know what they say about assumptions. And they make a snapshot of a horn, right? But then something interesting started happening.
Starting point is 00:28:20 A black quartet named The Ink Spots had 14 songs hit the top of the Billboard pop charts. Given how Billboard rankings were set up, this meant white people weren't just listening to The Ink Spots, they loved them. So a don-don-don music executive that not everyone buying R&B records were black. Shocked information. But how did this realization translate onto what was happening on actual stages? I don't know, we have to pause for an ad rig first. In the 1950s, a few musicians started picking up on sisteros at a tharps sound, which was now being called rock and roll. Chuck Berry, have you heard of him? Considered by almost everyone on the
Starting point is 00:29:05 planet to be one of the greatest guitarists in rock history, it's said to have been a huge sister Rosetta Tharp fan. Little Richard called sister Rosetta his greatest influence, maybe because his big break came when he was just 14 years old. Rosetta heard him singing one of her gospel songs and she invited him on stage to open for her at the Macon City Auditorium. The rest is history. The point is, whenever the early history of rock and roll gets talked about, there's always a handful of names in the conversation, but none of them is sister Rosetta Tharp. It should be. This is what we're getting at here. Thank you. So around this time, the founder of Sun Records realized if he could find a white man to capture this sound, he could make a shit
Starting point is 00:29:49 ton of money. We know this because he would say it to a secretary in bed. I guess just after sex talk. So Sun Records found their own white man who played, quote, unquote, black music. And that white man, his name was Elvis Frickin Presley. It's funny, well it's not funny, I'm sorry if you're saying that, but I was watching an Elvis biography the other day and they even say it on camera over and over and over again, his manager was like, we wanted a white man who sang like a black man.
Starting point is 00:30:22 So stupid, isn't it? Like, geez, the wheeze. Anyways Anyways Elvis Presley was born January 8th, 1935 in Tupelo, Mississippi. Sandy Hare, blue-eyed boy whose dad was serving three years in the Mississippi state prison when he was born. Great. Since mom couldn't afford to keep the house, she and her three-year-old moved in with relatives in Memphis, Tennessee. Now this was in 1938. The same year, Rosetta broke it big. But by all accounts, Elvis had a pretty stable childhood that he spent all in one place. Now music was a constant in Elvis' life. He would listen to music and church and taught himself to play the church piano. And for his 11th birthday, his parents gave him a guitar.
Starting point is 00:31:07 So when he was a teenager, he started visiting the local Beale Street venues where he would watch black musicians play. These shows completely changed his life. And he would see artists like BB King, Rip the Guitar, and he would hear other musicians sing better than he'd freaking ever heard singing. But he was the most captivated by none other than Cicero Zeta Tharp's guitar picking style. When he was a teenager, he learned how to play her songs up above my head, this train
Starting point is 00:31:34 and down by the river sign. He spent the year after high school working a day job and playing at small clubs at night, and Elvis got a call from the head of Sun Records. Now this was like June 6th, 1954. He wanted Elvis to sing a new song, and after some trial and air, they landed on, that's all right, Mama. It's a song. It became an instant hit and put Elvis on the map. Yay! But not really, because that's all right was an old R&B song created by Black Delta Blues singer Arthur Cruddub.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Arthur didn't receive any money from the song's success. In fact, despite his music being a commercial success, Arthur struggled to even support his family. Later in life, he had a bunch of legal fights in order to win back his royalties, but he never got the cash. Meanwhile, I don't even think sometimes it's about the cash, it's about the freaking credit as well. The cash and credit, thank you.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Meanwhile, high school and college girls were going bonkers for Elvis, and his place at the top was solidified when television rolled around. Suddenly, what a performer looked like became almost as important as the music itself. Elvis made his first television appearance on January 28th, 1956, and quickly became a regular fixture
Starting point is 00:32:52 on American TV sets. When Elvis released his version of Houndog, he had another hit. And this was another problem because Houndog was first recorded by a black woman named Big Mama Thornton. I fucking love her, you have to list, there's videos on YouTube of her, like her life performances, incredible. I wish I could just end it there.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I love her. And because of his rise, the press dubbed him the King of Rock and Roll. It didn't matter how true it was, the name stuck. All of this owes most of his success to a whole bunch of people It didn't matter how true it was, the name stuck. All this owes most of his success to a whole bunch of people who didn't get credit because without gospel, R&B and sister Rosetta, we wouldn't and don't have rock and roll. Wait, so what happened to Rosetta? Good question, I'm glad you asked. Sister Rosetta toured the festival scene in Europe through the 1960s and early 70s, and her artistry, just like in the States, inspired an entirely new generation of music,
Starting point is 00:33:52 specifically the British invasion of the 1960s. Ever heard of it? The Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Who? It was a huge deal and a lot of these bands loved Rosetta Tharp. Unfortunately history doesn't give her enough credit for it. Rosetta fell victim to the same eraser over there. A review of her 1970 performance at the American Folk Blues and Gospel Festival in London described Rosetta as a blacked up Elvis in drag. What the fuck, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Because history had already been rewritten and nobody knew that sister Rosetta had actually come before Elvis. The same year Rosetta was described as a knockoff Elvis. She was diagnosed with diabetes and then she had a stroke. Her diabetes was so bad she had to have her entire leg amputated.
Starting point is 00:34:46 And three years later in 1973 she passed away. Sister Rose had a laid in an unmarked grave from 1973 to 2008. Thirty-five years. All because her shithead husband never bought her a headstone. But don't worry, after she died he made sure to sell a bunch of her shit like a guitar and a mink coat. Sad. But the thing is, like one of Rosetta's most famous songs says, can't know grave holds her down. During Rosetta's lifetime, she owned two homes, a Cadillac, a shed for all her gowns. She became the first musician to have a tour bus. the first musical act to sell
Starting point is 00:35:25 out a stadium inspired the British rock invasion of the 60s, and she legit invented rock and roll as we know it. Sister Rosetta directly influenced the following artist. Clear's throat, thank you. Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry, Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis, The Beatles, Carl Perkins, Little Richard, Jimmy Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, I mean the list goes on, growing her. Point is, no Rosetta, no rock, and she did all this while being a black woman in the United States.
Starting point is 00:36:02 She's fucking killed it! And every year since 1986, the rock and roll Hall of Fame holds a big, over-the-top, induction ceremony in Cleveland, Ohio. Now, the Hall has inducted all sorts of people for contributions to music over the years, from lead singers and guitarist, artists who aren't performers, like producers and writers, and as of 2020, 888 inductees have been honored by that hall. Of that number, only 69 are women. Now that means just 8% of the rock and roll hall of fame are women, and not only is the Hall and Boys Club, it is getting increasingly white, of course, right, fuck. Less than one- third of the artists in the rock and roll hall of fame are people of color. Now Sister Rosetta Tharp wasn't inducted until 2018, 45 years after her death.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Okay, hold on, let me close my book, because that is a story about rock and roll, but mainly about Rosetta Tharp. She's a badass who changed music history, point blank period. And I don't know, I don't know what to say now. I think a lot of us are familiar with rock and roll, but a lot of us may not be familiar with Rosetta Tharp. Correct, I didn't, I didn't know a damn thing. I was like, what the, yeah, incredible. Ground breaking.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Amazing. Anyways, thank you everyone for hanging out with me and hopefully learn something new like I did. Remember, don't be afraid to be a nosy little bitch and, you know, trying to like figure out where things come from. That's how I always get these stories. Like, where did things come from?
Starting point is 00:37:42 I'd love to hear your reactions to today's story, so make sure to use the hashtag dark history over on social media so I can follow along and see what you're saying. Join me over on my YouTube where you can watch these episodes on Thursday after the podcast airs, and also catch my murder mystery and makeup which it drops on Monday's. Thank you so much for hanging out. I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day. You make good choices, and I'll be talking to you next week. Goodbye! Dark History is an audio boom original. This podcast is executive produced by
Starting point is 00:38:16 Bailey Sarian, Kim Jacobs, Dunia McNally from Three Marts, Ed Simpson, and Claire Turner from Wheelhouse DNA, produced by Alexi Kiven, research provided by Tisha Dunston, writers, Jed Bookout, Joyce Gavuso, Kim Yggid, a special thank you to our historical consultant, Gail Wald, author of Shout, Sister Shout, the untold story of rock and roll trailblazer sister Rosetta Tharp. And I'm your host, Bailey Sarian. Goodbye.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Untold story of rock and roll trailblazer sister Rosetta Tharp. And I'm your host, Bailey Sarian. Goodbye.

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