Dark History - 73: Tie me up Daddy - Top 5 Torture Techniques from Medieval Time

Episode Date: February 8, 2023

Hi friends, happy Thursday! Welcome to the Dark History podcast. Look torture is awful, but if there is one age that really turned torture into an artform, it was Medieval Times. No, not the super co...ol restaurant, we’re talking about the time in history where torture popped AWF. In today’s episode we take a little peak into the golden age of torture and go into the creativity and atrocious ways the medieval people used torture for entertainment.  I appreciate you for coming by, and tune in next week for more Dark History.  Episode Advertisers Include:  Apostrophe, ZocDoc Inc. and Hello Fresh Learn more during the podcast about special offers!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey! How's it going? Hey, pay attention to me. You're not paying attention to me. I need you to focus. Because if you don't know, my name is Bailey Sarian, and right now you are listening to my podcast, which is called Dark History. And if you're like, what's this? I've never heard of this before. Well guess what? This is like my opportunity to share everything I've learned with you about some stuff that like you probably don't think about. I'm just a really curious person and I want to know everything. So I figured I'd sit down on my nice little couch here with my friends and tell you about what I learned.
Starting point is 00:00:39 And guess what? Today is real good, real hot, real juicy, also morbid, but it depends on how you look at it. Yeah. So listen, let me tell you how I got here. It wasn't that long ago, when words used to mean something, you know, if you have a read like classic letters from the 1800s or classic books, ooh, ooh, ooh, I just finished the crucible,
Starting point is 00:01:00 highly recommend, go get that shit. Anyways, but when you like read all that stuff or you have write all that stuff, you start to notice that people really cared about what they said. It was like a performance, right? For example, I got a quote here for you. Let me let me tell you what this is saying. I don't know where it's from. Behold, your beauty is as radiant as the mid-summer sun. Your eyes are like dogs. Your body is a delectable odyssey. Stuff like that, you know? Today, we don't really have any words.
Starting point is 00:01:34 We say stuff like, I'm dead or DTF. That's just sad. We're not very creative, are we? You know, the only people who can say they are dead or like maybe dead people, fire, savage savage slaps. Ooh, slaps. I hate that. That's slaps. Oh god. These words used to mean something. Take for instance the word torture. I know, it's at a left field, but shut up. That's all agreed to stop using torture to mean something that is just kind of annoying. Like for example, the other day to call myself out. I was like oh my god
Starting point is 00:02:05 I went to the DMV today. Torture. Human Diables know what I mean by that but back in the day torture used to mean actual like torture. And when it comes to thinking of ways to hurt people, honestly in the history we humans have come up with some wild and honestly pretty creative ways to do it. So when I was looking into the topic for today's episode, one specific torture device that caught my attention is something from medieval Europe called the Armchair of Inquiries. First of all, iconic name. I could not get over that much better than what my therapist calls the couch of confessions Now this was a wooden chair, but not just any wooden chair, na na na. The armchair of inquiries was special
Starting point is 00:02:54 The seat backrests and armrests were all covered in rows of sharp spikes and we'll talk more later about how and why it was used But you know like man who came up with that idea? I take some serious thought. It's just giving me real DIY vibes. Almost like someone went to Michaels for inspiration was doing an arts and crafts project, loved the purple felt, glitter, and 27 steak knives to make this chair murder with assistance by Michaels.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Not sponsored. Anyway, this device set me assistance by Michaels. Not sponsored. Anyway, this device set me down a deep shocking rabbit hole. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Look it into all sorts of fascinating methods of torture. And I'll tell you right now, this episode does not disappoint. After we're done here, you're gonna be very happy to have not lived in medieval Europe because it seems like anyone could be accused of anything and end up in something like the armchair of inquiries.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Now, if you're like me, you've already been to one of those torture museums before. I mean, of course, hello, standard. And they always have those insane steam punk-looking contraptions and they'll have names like the pair of anguish, Lucifer's nail file, the iron maiden, like even if you haven't been to a torture museum, you might have heard of some of them because they're just that iconic. Like the iron maiden was a steel upright coffin, completely lined with metal spikes.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Not something you want to be slowly closed inside of. Well guess what, the iron maiden and a whole bunch of others supposedly medieval torture devices aren't real. They went around it all in the middle ages. Wasn't until the late 1800s when circuses and carnivals started to become popular, that con artists and showmen started to charge people to come see these fake torture instruments. And you know, for shock value, see OG clickbait, and we're still doing it today because it's just as
Starting point is 00:04:54 effective. People love to imagine their worst fears played out, I guess. In 2005, someone created a fake Wikipedia article for a torture device called the Spanish Tickler, which kind of looked like a Wolverine claw, but I guess it turns out it was fake. Like there's a lot of fake torture devices, and even in the torture museums, a lot of the ones they have up for the visual or whatever, they're fake. They're not actually real. And I thought that was really interesting. And I want to share that with you, you're welcome. The craziest thing about all, like, the fake torture porn
Starting point is 00:05:30 is that the real methods of torture that were used back in the day were actually like a lot more crazier. They even got very creative. I'm talking like game of Throne's level. That's what I've been told. I never saw a game of Throne's, but I hear it is pre-brew. And people have been finding creative ways to hurt each other since the dawn of time, really. I mean, back then, without social media, they had to figure out other ways to entertain themselves. And one of the best outlets it seems was torture, party.
Starting point is 00:06:01 So before we talk about the devices itself, torture has had some universal rules. And one of the most popular rules was that you could not, and they did not, torture their own people. Which is, was interesting that there were ground rules when it comes to torture. But I mean, that's cool. Everything else, pretty much, was A.O.K. but you couldn't torture your own people, how to be randoms. So throughout history, most of it has been inflicted on people like prisoners of war and enslaved people. And one of the earliest examples of this that we have actually comes from Val.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Valerian, I guess that's this guy's full name, was a Roman emperor back in the third century. I guess he was eventually overthrown by the king of Persia. So Valerian was taken prisoner and because he was a foreigner and a non-pursue citizen. His captors, well that gave them the green line to do whatever they hell they wanted with him. So the Persian king, I guess this is the rumor. This is what was said. Okay, but he used Valerian as like a human footstool. So literally he would like walk all over him when he needed to
Starting point is 00:07:15 Mount his horse like he would step on his back or Let's say he's sitting and lounging and he wants to put his feet up. Guess what? Val, get over here. Get on all fours. Let me put my feet up. Val tried to offer the king a lump sum in order to be released. But unfortunately, the king was tempted. He liked the footstool. So this pissed Val off.
Starting point is 00:07:40 And the king was honestly offended. The fact that this Valerian guy would dare to address him as an equal and like offer him money, so he could be set free was insulting. And the king was like, you know what, my little foot stool guess what, I'ma teach you a little lesson. So the story goes, the story goes, like this is some real shit. The story goes that he had Valerian Taita told him to open his mouth. Oh yeah, yep. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And forced him to swallow molten golds. First of all, what the fuck is a molten gold? Well, imagine lava going down your throat, melting everything it touches, and then solidifying around your organs. That's what was happening to Val. But the king was not satisfied and he wanted to do more to his little footstool. Turn to lava man. So the king had him Val skin to life, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And then he takes the skin, stuffs it with like straw and stuff and like sows it together and guess what? He kept Valerian's skin slash now scarecrow. In the main Persian temple, it was like a trophy or decor, but also making a statement. Like if you talk back to me, you're gonna end up just like that guy over there and Mr. Scarecrow boy. Oh. Oh yeah bitch like this guy was morbid.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Treating a foreign leader like this was obviously incredibly insulting to Valerian's people in Rome who would later defeat Persia and reclaim Valerian's skin in order to give him a proper burial. That's really nice. But what the Persian king did to Val is one of the most popular motives behind torture. Sending a message. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- years later with the Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church was essentially the highest power in Europe at this time like they were running the show. This is back in the Middle Ages. Like the church was their government. The government was the church, and that's just how it was. But, as technology advances and people travel, learn new things, get new
Starting point is 00:10:20 ideas, find themselves, some of them are naturally going to gravitate towards different beliefs, like Judaism or Islam. Now Catholicism was still the law of the land, but the rise of these other religions scared the absolute crap out of the Roman Catholic Church. And most of all, Daddy Poe, he was worried. These people are going to hell, we got to ZockDock.com slash Dark History and download the ZockDock app for free. Then, find and book a top rated doctor two day. Many are available within 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:10:59 That's ZockDock, Z-O-C-D-O-C dot com slash Dark History. ZockDock.com slash Dark History. So in 1252, the Pope decides to greenlight the use of torture for heretics. Now a heretic, to put it easily, that's like anyone who went against the Pope or the beliefs of the church itself. If that sounds really vague, it's because yeah, like most of it was vague. Most people associate heresy with being caught practicing witchcraft or like doing something demonic with your butt, but it could also apply to really anything. So as you can imagine, things get a little loosey-goosey. I'm pretty soon.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Anyone can be accused of being a hair tick and punished as one. The Pope essentially said, you're either with us or we don't know you, you're against us, you're an enemy, and that must be handled. And yeah, that scared a lot of people. So by the 1400s, the Pope and the Vatican are getting very worried by all these conversations and like all this free thought. We don't like that. They're thinking. We don't like that. So together with the king and queen of Spain, the church creates a group called Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da you haven't seen their outfits. Give them a little Google. Please hold them, googling their little outfits right now. I forgot to look it up before I film this, thank you. Oh, fancy, I love red. I love red. They're in all red, if you're not googling. They're in all red
Starting point is 00:12:34 from head to toe. Great for those of us who start our period. You don't have to worry about anything, and I'm saying red from head to toe. Since a bunch of the high ranking inquisition officials were cardinals, the inquisition became synonymous with these floor length red robes. It's very dramatic. I love red. The main goal of the inquisition was to quote unquote identify heretics, or in other words, anyone who was stringing off the good path of Roman Catholicism. Okay, so here's what they did. They had, they had eyes everywhere, okay, snitches, running around town, and usually it was men who were like spies in town, kind of, you know, and they'd go to the guys in charge and be like, hey, I saw my neighbor, so and so talking to the devil. And then the inququisition would be like, oh shit, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:27 So that's how they kept their eyes on everybody. My snitches, rats, loser. Okay. Now the Inquisition was actually pretty modern in the sense that they had some ground rules when it came to torture, or as they like to call it torment. The Spanish Inquisition Rulebook said that torment
Starting point is 00:13:44 could only happen for 15 minutes max. So humane of them. Way to go you guys. I mean 15 minutes doesn't sound that long, but like have you ever tried to hold a plank for a minute? I did that one time, it was too much. So 15 minutes? I'm busy, I can't do that. So as you can imagine, it was 15 minutes. You get it. The Inquisition had three forms of torture that were the most common. The first one is called the Strapato,
Starting point is 00:14:15 which to me sounds like a strap on. I'm like, you want me to bend over Mr. Pope? But no, that's not what it was. Your hands would be tied behind your back and then a rope would hoist you up from the wrist. After a minute, you might be okay, but after 10, your shoulders were definitely dislocated. Number 2 was called the tocha, which sounds like a perfume I got from anthropology, but
Starting point is 00:14:41 it actually means waterboarding. Specifically, the inquisition would funnel water into the prisoner's throat until they were nearly unconscious and felt like they were drowning, but they weren't. They were just fun and games. The third most popular torture method used during this time was the Porto, or the Rack. This was a big wooden table or frame with shackles on either end for your wrist and your ankles. Those shackles would then be pulled essentially stretching your body out like an x shape. You know, like, you know, it's kind of kinky like that,
Starting point is 00:15:20 like your wrist and then your feet and then it would just stretch. Bitch. Yep, your stretchin'. Sounds fun, right? Sounds hot and kinky. No, it's not. This would actually cause your joints to dislocate and then your bones would break. Tch, rough. Yeah, another rule of the Spanish Inquisition.
Starting point is 00:15:39 They were not allowed to kill you, but they could cut it pretty close. And here's the thing. you could get hit multiple rounds of 15 minute torment sessions, depending on the crime you were accused of. Maybe you were caught with counterfeit money, two rounds of torment, or maybe something more serious like sawdemy. Now that could get you eight rounds of torment. Do the math, 15 minutes times eight.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I don't know, let me know in the comments section, because that's a long time, so I was like, okay. Now because of these practices, the Spanish Inquisition is credited with really putting torture on the map. They were the trendsetters. Maybe not in a good way, but... A way. So in the year 1542, Rome was feeling very inspired. They're like, oh my god,
Starting point is 00:16:26 Spain is having so much fun over there. We should do that too. So the church kicked off the Roman Inquisition and they were like, we love the torture, but we need to have our own like virgin and and Rome. They popped off. They were like torture fun. It's up at a notch. They didn't have strict rules. So for example, they were allowed people to be tortured for up to 30 minutes at a time, and at this time actually, like it wasn't just limited to the inquisitions. In fact, civil courts all around Europe were using the inquisitions methods, but with no time restrictions, and like no rules. In other words, everybody, you get to torture, you get to torture everybody gets a job.
Starting point is 00:17:09 It's just really cool to look at from afar. You know, I mean, they started using all kinds of props, horses, wheels, rats, you name it, they were getting creative with it, and figuring out a way to use it for torture. Fun! Now, the Romans didn't name it, they were getting creative with it and figuring out a way to use it for torture. Fun! Now, the Romans didn't invent the wheel, but they did use it to kill one guy. And while no one deserves to be killed this violently, he kind of had a coming for him.
Starting point is 00:17:37 This is definitely a little pin note for myself, also, that I want to do a murder mystery, murder mystery and make up on this guy because there's this guy. Peter nears. He was a German serial killer and he it's said that he had killed over 500 people, including 24 fetuses, which he cut out of pregnant women. So if you're going to torture anybody, it's going to be this guy, right? So, at least, you know, so allegedly, Peter would use their remains in satanic rituals. And also, he participated in some cannibalism. Now, when this guy was caught, oh, oh, this led the church and like the whole inquisition to believe that this man, Peter, he was a powerful, dark magician.
Starting point is 00:18:32 And you bet they wanted to hunt this man down and torture his ass. Peter was a very sneaky man and it would take years before he was recognized in a Roman bathhouse and was captured and caught and brought in for the Romans to have some fun with. So the year's 1581, Romans had gotten a hold of this Peter guy and they did not hold back, I'm all smiling like, ha ha ha, because again, if you're gonna torture anyone, this guy, sure, we can all get up, we can all get behind this guy. So here's what they did. They ended up torturing him for like over the course of three days. On the first day, the Romans tore strips of Peter's flesh from his body, and then poured hot oil right on into those open wounds.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Ouch. Talk about zero to 60 real quick. On the second day of torture, the Romans did to Pete. Hot oil on his feet! So after they peel his skin into the whole hot oil thing, they then dragged his oiled feet over hot coals. Now essentially this was roasting him alive, which had me thinking like, oh I bet that's where like the expression roast comes from. Like on Comedy Central does it?
Starting point is 00:19:50 Maybe. Now it might seem like I'm making light of this situation, but I want to remind everyone at home that when Peter was arrested, the authorities discovered body parts of multiple fetuses in his suitcase. I'm honestly surprised a human can survive all of this and live to see the another day. But Peter did. On the third day of the presentment, the robot. Okay, so on the third day of his imprisonment, the Romans dragged Peter outside where they broke him on a wheel. Now, this thing, it's called the wheels. It was another torturous device. and this was an excruciating torturous means of killing someone. Breaking someone on the wheel was the phrase for when a big ass wagon wheel was slam down onto somebody repeatedly. In Peter's case, it happened to him 42 times, and what this
Starting point is 00:20:39 did was break their bones in multiple locations. It was such a brutal form of torture that it was reserved for convicted rapists, traitors, and murderers. Like beer. The whole point was to torture the convict as harshly as possible without killing them immediately, which would be considered too merciful. After Peter's legs and arms were broken,
Starting point is 00:21:01 his legs and arms were then threaded through the spokes of the wagon wheel and secured then with a rope. Just for a little extra flair, the whole wheel, body and all, was hung from a pole, kind of like a crucifixion. And after all this was said and done, the prisoner would be left dangling on the wheel to slowly die a painful death, which at times could often take days. Talk about slow and painful. Jeez, Louise. But for Peter, they really showed up.
Starting point is 00:21:34 They went above and beyond for this man, and they decided to dismember his body before cutting it into tiny pieces. Now I will say, it is a little refreshing to her story about someone getting torture, who honestly, I'm sorry Lord, kind of deserved it. Because back then, thanks to the Inquisition and the Church, tons of people were getting horribly mistreated for no damn good reason. Especially women, as always, like we learned in our witches episode. Yeah, so that's a problem. Like I had a funny feeling deep down that there were probably some creative medieval torture devices for women specifically and once again I was right.
Starting point is 00:22:16 What can I say? I just like know a lot. I don't know. It's just like something told me. Now let's get back to today's story. There was something called a breast ripper, which maybe you're like, what is that and you're guessing it right now? Well guess what? It was ripping titties off with hot irons. It looks like a claw almost, and then it goes around the boob
Starting point is 00:22:43 and just like, like salad tongs, okay, but claws and then just goes around the boob and just like like salad tongs. Okay, but claws and it just goes around the boob and clamps just the whole titty. And once they had like a fern grasp, it would be ripped away from the body. This is probably where the word statched comes from. I don't know because not in the name, but that to me is a real st that's a snatch. Do you want to talk about snatch? That's it, that's a sn... okay. And this tool will be used on women who were accused of cheating on their husbands, or maybe performing an abortion on themselves. There was also something called the cucking stool,
Starting point is 00:23:20 mm-hmm. Which was reserved for disorderly women. Ah, there you go. I mean, define disorderly women. Ah, there you go. I mean, define disorderly women. Exactly, no one knows whatever that means. It was like up to whoever was in charge that day. It was basically a teetertotter and on one side,
Starting point is 00:23:36 it had a chair, like a wooden, normal, ass-looking chair and then on the other side a pulley system that could like lift it up into the air, right? Now the chair, it kind of reminds me of like a squatty potty situation in a way because the chair's bottom where your butt went would be completely cut out. So your ass went through the chair, then they would tie the woman to the chair
Starting point is 00:23:59 and like hoist her into the air. So everyone in town could take turns shouting and throwing stuff at the women who were just hanging up there Terrified with their ass out. I do. Yeah, I know. I don't know like their ass. I don't know But honestly, I would take that one over the other ones, right? I'll sit in that chair Just yell and throw stuff at me. I'll shit on you. Watch me Yeah, anyway, so these devices against women were not even the most interesting ones I found. I also found a device that was used on witches.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Yeah. Or just women in general. Mm-hmm. It's been called one of the most misogynistic torture devices for women ever made. Congratulations. Most of the time, it was actually husbands that would request their wives to be subjected to this type of torture. Mm-hmm. Oh yeah, your dirty ass husband could be like, I'm tired of her ass. Which, it was used on the unruly lower-class women in order to be put in line in total lesson.
Starting point is 00:25:00 I'm talking about a device called the Skold's Bridal. Now let me tell you about this shit. One of the earliest uses of the Skold's Bridal was in 1567 on a Scottish woman named Bessie. Oh Bessie. Now Bessie did one of the worst things you could possibly do during this time. I know. Wait for it. She called out a man for lying. How dare she! Bessie? Get it to fucking get her Bessie. Oh dear you Bess. It was a big deal. How... I am so, you know, every day I wake up I say praise God. I was not born back then because what the fuck, like it must have sucked. Oh my God, right? Am I right? High five. Great. So I guess Bessie was buying something from a man in town. I'm sorry, I'm not laughing, but I am because Bessie was
Starting point is 00:25:56 buying something from a man in town. And she accused him of ripping her off in front of the townspeople. So the man demanded, Bessie be put in the scolds bridal. How dare she disrespect him. Fuck her though, you know? It was called the scolds bridal because in medieval time, a scold was essentially a woman from the lower class
Starting point is 00:26:20 who like didn't hold back when it came to speaking out and giving her opinions. And a bridal is that thing that goes like in a horse's mouth. So the person who's riding the horse can stop him from galloping away by pulling the horse lessons 101 with me, Bailey Sarian. So the bridal goes in the mouth and there's rains and stuff right or whatever and you're sitting on the horse And then like if the horse is galloping you want to slow down or just stop and generally pull back and this bar Here's my hairbrush go like this ahhh
Starting point is 00:26:55 bridal and that's basically what it did for women too Let me describe this thing to you guys There were definitely like a few different forms of it throughout the years, but the one bestie had to endure was a mask made of a really heavy metal iron. Now it had a metal strap on the top and the sides so it would fit tightly onto a woman's head and be really hard to take off. Like you couldn't take it off to be honest. On top of the mask, there were these spiky, metal, twisted animal horns. There were cutouts around the eyes, nose, and also mouth. And if you take a look at the picture, it looks like a scary haunting metal, like demon mask from a saw movie.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Like let's be a saw. I'm gonna fuck me up when I was a kid. Once the mask was placed on top of a woman's head, she would have to open her mouth to insert a metal gag. This gag was a flat piece of metal with a large spike on it, pointing down towards the tongue. Uh, that way she talked. You see what would happen if she tried to talk. She'd be stabbing her tongue, her mouth.
Starting point is 00:28:05 It was just scary and uncomfortable, but most of all humiliating, because you would have to walk around with this shit on. Especially if your bozo husband was the one who requested you be put in the bridal. Husbands would tie a leash to their wives who were wearing the scolds bridal, and force her to parade around town. Oh, God. In Bessie's case, she was paraded around town, like on this walk of shame, while blood was dripping out of her mouth. And the worst of all, the town's people were actually encouraged to harass the women. So they're like, please, feel free to spit assault. Um, I don't know. Just do shit
Starting point is 00:28:48 through them. Make them feel bad. And they did just that while the husband is dragging poor bestie around. So that's fun, huh? Thoughts, reflections? No, you cannot parade me around town with that on. Johnunty sick bitch. We'll not put that on for you. The next story was, well, it's real disturbing. There's a quote that says, anything a fiction author can come up with, history has already done it worse at least once. Ah, ain't that the truth.
Starting point is 00:29:22 So guess what, we're now in Hungary. 1514. During something called the peasant war, the peasant war was an uprising against their government. The government at the time kept taking away the peasant's food, clothes, and freedoms in general. So over 100,000 Hungarian peasants united together to overthrow the king under the leadership of a man named Georgie Datsa. Sadly,
Starting point is 00:29:47 the peasants lost this war, and they had even more of their freedom taken away. Georgie, which is such a cute name, was captured by the government, and sentenced to death by torture, and they were going to use Georgie's death to send a message to the local peasants. With a crowd of royals and captured peasasant prisoners watching, oh and also a live band playing happy music in the background, George's torture began. First, Garnt stripped George's naked and tied up his feet. Then they teased him, calling him the peasant king. They brought in a few of his peasant soldiers and forced
Starting point is 00:30:25 them to sit Georgie on an iron throne. But this wasn't any old iron throne-o-ne-ne. This was an iron chair that had a fire set underneath it, slowly heating up the chair like an oven. So the longer Georgie sat on it, the more his skin and flesh melted onto the actual seat itself. Ha, ha, ha! Yeah, his balls melted right on that chair. This is not enough, of course not. They then brought in a burning hot metal scepter. You know, like those fancy wand sticks that Royals need for some reason? They always got one. So then they shoved this burning hot metal scepter into his open palm. Then to complete the royal look,
Starting point is 00:31:10 they brought in a blazing hot crown and placed it on his head. Pfft, they went off. The dedication to this piece was like, wow, because like they gave him a throne, his own crown, and a scepter, but all of it's melting his skin and killing him. Like, wow. You guys are kind of crazy back then.
Starting point is 00:31:31 So Georgie, poor poor Georgie, had to sit on this slowly heating throne for over an hour. Well, the crowd gathered and happily watched. Here's your crown peasant king, here's your throne. You don't like it? Oh, point a little baby. You want to be a king? Go ahead. Tanting him. Then, because again, not enough, the guards decided to take things up a notch. They brought out Georgie's brother, one of the imprisoned peasant soldiers. And they decided that they were going to murder him right in front of Georgie. As if seeing your own brother getting murdered right in front of you wasn't enough, they then cut up his body into little pieces.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Then several guards heated up pliers and a nearby fire, and they started pulling flesh from all over George's body. Guards then told nine of the peasant soldiers to finish killing George themselves. How? Well, through cannibalism, of course. Eat them. That's right. They told them to go over to George's bite and swallow chunks of flesh where the hot iron had just burned his body, or if they didn't want to do this, let's say, well then they would be killed right on the spot. Four of the nine peasants refused to follow through with this, and were killed on the spot
Starting point is 00:32:58 the same way Georgie's brother was, murdered and cut up into a bunch of pieces. The other five peasants started chowin' down for their life. After taking several bites and swallowing, they were taken out of their chains and freed from prison. Yeah, you know, at what cost? Georgie died on the throne that day. His corpse was unripped into pieces. They displayed different pieces of his body all over, it was a warning to the peasants.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Don't even think about doing this or challenging us or speaking up or doing anything, ever again. An interesting fact, that throne that Georgie died on, that could be the origin of what we know, our history 65, and use code dark history 65 for 65% off, plus free shipping. Again, a big thank you to HelloFresh America's number one meal kit. For our final torture device, we're going to cover one of the OGs of pain and suffering. No, I'm not talking about family tenders.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I'm talking about the Porto aka the rack and get your head out of the gutter as nothing to do with titties. Now the rack was like... these shit. Okay, now the rack was a movie star. It was timeless, simple, yet elegant. I should have won all the awards for how effective it was. And not only that, the rack was international, honey, anyone who was anyone in the torture game relied on the trusty rack. I'm talking the Greeks, the Romans, the Russians, the French, the Brits. So you're probably wondering, Billy, shut up. What did it look like? Tell me, tell me right now. Okay, so listen. So there were two major designs of the rock. One version looked like a long wooden table kind of like Like a something you'd see in like an Adam family dining room, right?
Starting point is 00:34:51 Then another popular version looked like a long wide wooden ladder that was placed on an incline But it didn't matter which version you preferred for the rack because at the end of the day They both had something in common on each end of the ladder or the rack because at the end of the day, they both had something in common. On each end of the ladder or the table or whatever the fuck, they were two rotating logs or wheels. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, yep. Rotation is happening.
Starting point is 00:35:16 So let's say a convicted criminal comes on down. Come on down, you know, we're up next. They'd be taken into a room where the rack was located. Now this would be typically in like a dungeon or a dark place. Next, the person would be forced onto the rack. The person's ankles would be tied to one of the rotating logs with either like a rope or a chain or something like that. And then the wrist would be tied to the other log.
Starting point is 00:35:45 You're kind of putting that stretch position kind of hot, but then it takes a dark twist, bitch. This put the person in a horizontal position. Thanks, Superman, flying through the air. Great. I see you're imagining it. The interrogators would then come in and get to work. They'd grill the prisoner with all sorts of questions about what they were being accused
Starting point is 00:36:06 of. If their answer was unacceptable, or they didn't like the answer that this guy was giving them, which often happened, they'd start to crank the wheels on either end of the rack. Just very slowly. You know, to make the prisoner really feel it, live in it a little bit. Little by little, the prisoner would be stretched out way beyond how like a human body should stretch.
Starting point is 00:36:33 As you can imagine, this would cause excrociating pain and the prisoner would be screaming, hollering, shouting, all of the good stuff. Which is why normally this would take place in like a dungeon or somewhere dark because it was just so loud. They're so dramatic when they're getting stretched but the most spine-chilling or spine-ripping.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Part of this whole thing is that as a human being is being stretched out like that, there are blood-curdling sounds made by joints and bones ripping. Yeah, it makes noise and popping. I don't know what that sounds like, and honestly, I don't think I want to know. I think I'm good. And the scene was so gruesome that just forcing prisoners to watch this happen to other people
Starting point is 00:37:18 was enough to actually scare the crap out of them. And usually get a confession. But confessions weren't the only reason they used this platform of pain. They used it to pry information from people. They used it to send a message, like earlier with the Valerian guy. They also used it to set a grim example and keep people in their place. And it's been used like that ever since it was invented. The origin story of the wreck goes back thousands of years.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Researchers aren't positive, which civilization was the first to use it to turn people into stretch arms strong. But some texts say it first pops up in the Greek empire around 300 BC. Apparently, famous Greek King Alexander, the great, used the rack to torture some of his underlings who were planning to assassinate him.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Well, in the year 1477, there was another version of the rack that came out, and the British called it the Duke of Exeter's Daughter, because it was created by the Duke of maybe guessed it, Exeter. And guess he considered this device his daughter? No, I'm not sure. But while this rack was probably used quite consistently, it wasn't until about 150 years later when the Duke's grizzly daughter made it into the spotlight. In 1605, there was a group of 13 English rebels
Starting point is 00:38:43 who were really pissed off at the King of England. His name was like King James I, they were super pissed. The reason they were so pissed was because they felt the king was forcing his religion on the entire kingdom. And not only this, the rebels who were Catholics were tired of being persecuted and targeted for their beliefs. They said it was time for Catholicism to retake the English throne. So, they came up with a plan, or maybe a plot. On November 5, King James
Starting point is 00:39:14 was scheduled to give a speech at the House of Parliament in London. Now Parliament is essentially the English version of Congress, and like this speech was a big deal. It was an event announcing the start of a new session of lawmaking. Since the rebels knew the king was going to be there, on that day specifically, they decided that it was the perfect place to assassinate him. Kill him, dead forever gone by, so they came up with an idea. Why don't we blow up the House of Parliament? Yeah, they're like high five,
Starting point is 00:39:48 I'm like, yeah, that's such a great deal. But what the Reppels didn't know is that some bitch-ass Tatl-Tales sent an anonymous note to the King's men just before the event. This note told them about the plot, when, where, and how it was gonna happen. Just all the details, honestly, that they needed to know, in a convenient little package. Anyway, in the middle of the night on the morning of the big event, Royal authorities
Starting point is 00:40:13 searched the crypt underneath the house of Parliament. There, they found a man in a black coat, a wide brimmed hat, and a very chic mustache, and wearing boots with the spurs. Boots with the spurs. The whole club was looking at her. That song actually goes with the story because lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo lo Oh, whoa, whoa, they were underneath in the crypt. Anyway, so this mystery, Zorro looking guy, his name was Guy. Guy Fox. Yeah, great name. I love a name like this, because this is a name I could get behind.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Guy, you can't mess that one up. So Guy was one of the Catholic rebels I mentioned earlier. So the King's Goons confronted him, and they placed him under arrest. I mean, obviously, he's gonna blow up the place. Not only this, they see that he was guarding, not one, not two, but 36 barrels of gunpowder. Enough to rip apart the house of Parliament.
Starting point is 00:41:16 He went above and beyond, for sure. This became known as the gunpowder plot. Now, it didn't work. No, I know, it could have been cool. I mean, not really. And now poor guy was caught and he was about to pay for it. And it's not fair because there was a lot of people's ideas. He was just like, oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:41:38 Like was he willing to die if he was, it doesn't matter, I'm getting off track. Okay, look, so he gets caught. Guess what? Your turn, guy, so that night, guy is taken to the tower of London. I went there one time, it's real cool. Because today, the tower of London is the home
Starting point is 00:41:55 of the crown jewels in the British monarchy, and millions of people visit it every year. It's so cool and historic. I hear it's a tourist trap that I totally fell for. But from the year 1,100 to about 1952, it was actually a brutal, unforgiving place or prison. Sorry about that prison. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I was like, oh my God, jewels, ooh, buildings, culture. On November 6th, 1605, King James is, understandably, pissed off. So he sent an order over to the tower, authorizing the use of torture on Guy. So he would give up the name of his co-conspirators. The order said, quote, if he will not confess, the gentler tortures are to be the first used on him.
Starting point is 00:42:47 God's speed, your good work. Motivational awareness, I guess? So first, Guy was placed in a cell that was so small that no adult could stand comfortably. You sit, or even lay down. There was no physical way for him to rest, which in itself sounds awful. Step 2. Guy was taken into a torture chamber underneath the tower. There, he endured something called the Manacles. These were iron handcuffs placed tightly on Guy's wrists, which were then attached to a rope. Guy was lifted off the floor for hours on end, destroying his
Starting point is 00:43:25 hands, wrists, and even shoulders. While hanging, he was interrogated, at times, by the king himself. But Guy was no rat. He did not give anyone's name up, so they moved on to step three. It's time for Guy to go on a little date with the Duke's daughter, and get a put him on the rack. Guy was dragged into a chamber underneath one of the towers of his prison. There he was laid on the rack with ropes tied to his ankles and wrists. Slowly but surely, the interrogators asked Guy to give up some names. He kept refusing, so he kept getting stretched. Turn in the dial.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I don't know what a dial sounds like, but just imagine. And all that popping and ripping I mentioned earlier? Yeah, that was happening to Guy. And not just for a few hours, Guy would end up spending almost three entire days on the rack, going through just horrifying, excruciating, terrible pain. Eventually, he started to give names, and King James couldn't have been any happier, because now he's like, I know who to kill. You'd be skipping.
Starting point is 00:44:37 But even though Guy gave the king everything that he wanted, Guy's torture was not over. I mean, not even close. After sitting in his gel cell for a couple more months, Guy was dragged out of the Tower of London on January 31, 1606. He was then tied to a horse and dragged through the streets of London. God damn you guys, like, calm down. Jeez, dramatic much? Oh my God!
Starting point is 00:45:02 When they arrived at the middle of the city, Guy was forced, because he's still alive after all this. Guy was forced to watch his co-conspirators get literally ripped apart. First they were hanged. He's like, yeah, you're gonna watch this shit. Look what you did Guy. We're gonna watch it together. Let me get some popcorn. So first he's watching. First they were hanged, but while they were still alive, for some odd reason, they chopped off their dicks. I know, for fun, I guess. They burned the dick in front of them, like, ha ha ha. Again. I don't know. And then they would have a little winy roast, and then they would be sliced open, and like their guts and
Starting point is 00:45:40 hearts would be removed. And that's when they would die. After that, their bodies were quartered, meaning that they were chopped into four pieces. So, I don't know how, but they were. Then their heads were cut off. I get a little overkill, but they love the dramatics over there. I don't know what it is. Like, you guys need to just take a chill pill. Well, then again, they were really bored back then. They didn't have anything to do. So next, it was Guy's turn. You know, you're up, bitch. So at this point, he's weak as hell, because he's been enduring months of torture.
Starting point is 00:46:11 But as he climbed the ladder, and the rope was placed around his neck, he found just enough energy to really stick it to the man and jump. So the rope tightened quickly and snapped his neck, killing him instantly, which to you and I were like, that's not great, but it's kind of great in this situation because this meant that he didn't have to go through feeling like his wiener being cut off, him being sliced open with his guts being ripped out. Like, I was, he beat them to it, okay? Which I think anyways, guys' body was then cut into four pieces and distributed to the four corners of the kingdom. Now this was to send a message to anyone else who dare try to take down King James. And if that wasn't enough, they, it's never enough for these people.
Starting point is 00:47:02 They even decided to add some home decor to the castle. They stuck prisoners' heads. They were already dead, right? They taped the heads of the prisoners and put them on spikes. And little kebab. And then lined the bridge with them. Yep, they did that. So you know those like Halloween decorations you do every year?
Starting point is 00:47:20 Oh, some real shit. Yeah, now this, again, would instill fear into everyone who saw that shit. You want to send a message? I think that would send a message. At least for me, I'd be like, oh shit, is that a head? On a stick? You don't see that every day. And there is something else we need to cover when it comes to the Tower of London.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I just think it's so interesting that thousands of tourists visit that spot every day, stepping on the same stones that were once covered in the blood of tortured prisoners. And sure, the Duke's daughter was a brutal bitch, but one of the most popular devices of torture in the Tower of London wasn't actually a device at all. It was rats, like actual rats. Now, there were several ways rats would be used as a form of torture, but they would all end the same way. Rats would end up eating on the human flesh. Now, these rodents were often used through the method known as the rat box. This is fun. I saw the pics. So first, you'd get like, you tie up a prisoner on a flat surface. So, you know, tie their arms and legs and all that jazz. Second first, you'd get like, you tie up a prisoner on a flat surface.
Starting point is 00:48:25 So, you know, tie their arms and legs and all that jazz. Second, what you gotta do, or what they would do, is starve a bunch of rats, okay? So get some rats, don't feed them. Yeah, they're hungry. Okay, so then you're gonna stick the starving rats in like a bucket or something and you're gonna walk over to the prisoner,
Starting point is 00:48:43 dump the rats onto the the prisoner's stomach and then like you hold down the bucket or you just kind of let them run free whatever because eventually what they're gonna do, these rats, they're not gonna start eating you at first because they're polite. So usually they'd have to like take some kind of heat, let's say like a torch and they would kind of get it next to the rats. Get the rats nice and toasty, either on the bucket in the room. Just get the rats irritated, hot, going. And after a few minutes, the rats are obviously going to start freaking out,
Starting point is 00:49:18 thinking that they're in danger, under all this heat and whatnot. So then they're going to try to chew their way out through the prisoner's stomach, of course. So you see, you're alive and then rats are put on you and then the rats eat you, like your stomach and stuff. If you Google the images, oh, bitch, you won't be able to sleep for days, swear to God, don't look it up unless you're sick like me. So there was another version of this,
Starting point is 00:49:42 which is they would stick a tube into a prisoner's butthole, yeah. Sometimes in two of a jina, they would put a tube in there, then they would stick a hungry rat into the tube, close the tube, heat up the end, and guess what? You're going to get eaten now. And not in a good way. And right now, if you are not clenching your butt cheeks together, I don't know what you're doing with your life, you sicko. Sometimes the guards were just straight up tired and didn't even care to stick around for the torture.
Starting point is 00:50:16 So they'd open the prison doors, filled with men and release a bucket of rats. And the rats, which is go to town, eating the flesh of the prisoners until they got their fill and scurry away. Maybe this is the reason so many people are afraid of rats. Maybe it's been seared into our DNA, or maybe they just look like they want to eat us, and this is proof that they did at one point.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Now you can see a lot about people from medieval Europe, but you can't say that they weren't damn creative. And even though torture devices like the rack or the armchair of inquiries don't seem to be used anymore, torture is still definitely used as a way of getting information. And it's interesting that some of the oldest torture rules still apply. You remember Valerian? Rememium? Back in his day, you could only torture non-citizens remember?
Starting point is 00:51:03 Well, that still holds up. Maybe you've heard of a little place called Guantanamo. We don't have enough time to open that can of worms, but there's something interesting about who we feel we have the right to torture. And what torture means to us today. At the end of the day, it just seems to me that human beings love hurting other human beings,
Starting point is 00:51:22 but we don't torture like we used to. So I kind of feel like we've gotten a little better, but I could be completely wrong because I don't know everything, you know? Let me know down below. Well, everyone, what'd you think? If you had to go out with one of these devices, which one would you go out with?
Starting point is 00:51:37 I think I'd choose the Squatty Potty one, or the Boob Snatcher, because Boob's grow back. I heard it's like a lizard's tail. Once it's gone, it just grows, right? You know, I'm this is another side story, but I thought boob scrolled back. Never mind, actually. We'll discuss that another day. Well, everyone, thank you for learning with me today. Remember, don't be afraid to ask questions to get the whole story because you deserve that. I'd love to hear your reactions to today's story, so make sure to use the hashtag dark history so I can follow along. But I will say, side note, torture and torture devices is a hotly debated topic.
Starting point is 00:52:17 A lot of people don't want to claim that their kings and queens, whoever, like use torture on one another, some people say it was real, some say it was fake I don't really care what you think about that to hot debate because there is proof that these torture devices the ones that we at least mentioned here were used once upon a time so Don't take it personally. It was a real thing. Look history's fucked up and we're owning it. I don't think we should be doing it now, you know. Okay, great. Join me over on my YouTube or you can watch these episodes on Thursday after the podcast airs. And while you're there, I don't know, maybe check out my murder mystery and makeup. I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day. You make good choices.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Have a seat to my arm, Chairman Quarries, maybe. But talk to you next week. Love ya, bye bitch. Dark History is an audio boom original. This podcast is executive produced by Bailey Sarian, Junior McNeely from Three Arts, Kevin Grush, and Claire Turner from Made in Network. Writers, Katie Burrers, Alison Filoboz,
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