Dark History - 74: From Hoovers to Hentai: The Dark History of Porn

Episode Date: February 15, 2023

Hi friends, happy Thursday! Welcome to the Dark History podcast. PORN. Bom Chicka Wah Wah. We all know what it is, don’t lie Barbara, we know you know. And that’s because porn has been around for... a long time. There really isn’t one phase of history where you can’t find some kind of porn. I mean even cavemen had porn.  In today’s episode we go into the history of porn and specifically America’s turbulent history with it. MMmhmmm. Don’t watch this one with grandma, okay? You’ve been warned. Episode Advertisers Include: ZipRecruiter, Squarespace, Babbel US, and Apostrophe.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi friends, how are you today? If you are watching this over on YouTube, I have a microphone. I'm holding it right now, my hand. Just go with me on this. Okay, I'm a host. Let me host. If you're new here, hi. My name is Bailey Sarian, and I like to welcome you to my study. AKA my podcast, Dark History.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Now this is the chance to tell the story like it is, and I don't know, share the history of stuff we would never think about. So all you have to do is sit back, relax, and let's talk about that hot, juicy history goss. I don't know what it is, but when I hold a microphone, I just feel so powerful, like brand new. Like this is the price is right, and I'm like, come on down. Well, I don't know any of the crowd goes wild, and I'm like, ah!
Starting point is 00:00:51 Anyways, nothing to do with today's story. Today's story is exciting because it's about pornography. Something we can all, you know, come together with. So I don't know if you know this, but every year, porn hub releases their annual year in review. I look forward to this every year. Think of it. It's kind of like when you're Spotify wrapped playlist around the holidays for the end of the year where they show you like, here's what you listen to the most, your emo, your gothic, your chic, wow. And she likes a little bit of soul, you know?
Starting point is 00:01:26 They give you a little roundup of you as a person. When it comes to porn hub, as you can guess, all the info is about pornography. Now it's not personalized to one person, thank God, but it does say a lot about what gets us off as a society, as a whole, the whole country. And I gotta tell you, it's enlightening, it's fun. I love it. First of all, the top genre that was searched globally on PornHub last year, 2022, drum roll, please, Joan. No, it wasn't bird porn, you nasty.
Starting point is 00:02:06 It was Hentai. Hentai, round of applause for Hentai? Come on down Hentai. Well, if you don't know what this is, I had to look it up because I didn't know either. And it's defined as overly sexualized Japanese anime characters doing all sorts of things, if I say, that would probably offend most. But it's a cartoon at the same time. So you're like, oh, you know, so globally, Hentai, we're loving Hentai.
Starting point is 00:02:36 She's new. She's fierce. She's here. Okay. Hentai. But in America, specifically, the number one genre that was searched last year on on porn hub was You want to guess again? No, you can now see I can't even say that out loud. Oh my god
Starting point is 00:02:56 Fights anyways, um lesbians Lesbians Round of applause for lesbians. Yes, the scissors, sisters. Number one, of course. And number two in America. Hentai. People love animated characters getting busy, huh? Huh?
Starting point is 00:03:15 And then get this. You got your typical searches like three sums, latinas, cream pie, has nothing to do with a baked good. And of course, you're run of the mill gang bang. Fun! And I love this because a porn look,
Starting point is 00:03:35 I'm interested in where things, if you haven't caught on, okay, so I get very excited about this. The porn hub stats, they also break it down state by state and this is where it gets really interesting. For example, the most searched word on porn hub from users in Texas, panties panties panties panties. pant panties. I don't know what kind of panties, but they're looking them up. You nasty. Okay. What are you looking up panties for?
Starting point is 00:04:12 No specific panties, just panties. Very vague, huh? Anyways, Cowboys love panties. Okay. And then when it comes to Utah, this may be no surprise to many of you, but Utah is out there searching Mormon. Good for them. Good for them. Then we've got Nebraska. Nebraska was my favorite state, because they were searching the word rub. Are you be rub? That's it. Rub. Nebraska. I don't know what you're doing. But you're liking some rub. Hmm. Hmm. Okay. Washington State's favorite search was
Starting point is 00:04:51 fleshlight, which I googled and it's a pocket pussy. One I saw in a four local bottle so you can twist off the top and have sex with your four local. Brilliant. Who wouldn't want to have sex with a forelocal. Brilliant. Who wouldn't wanna have sex with a forelocal? Hmm? And then Alaska. Alaska is searching something very particular. Breast expansion.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Thoughts? Yeah, I'm not sure what that one was either, Joan. Breast expansion for $10? We need game show music. So enough with my porn hub searches. But all this got me thinking about porn. And why are we so secretive about it? I mean, it's very clear that everyone is watching it, but no one wants to talk about it,
Starting point is 00:05:43 right? So I got curious, and I looked into the history of porn to try to understand why is this so taboo. Hmm? Well, to say, I learned a lot would be an understatement. So Barbara, I need you to buckle up because this is going to be a wild mustache ride. Just kidding, no one was searching that I was surprised. I thought Texas for sure. They have mustaches there, I saw. Much like corn, corn has been around a very long time, and no one is really sure where
Starting point is 00:06:15 it began. There's evidence of it existing in so many ancient cultures all over the world, in artwork, music, murals, poetry, even hieroglyphics, all different kinds of mediums, porn. I mean, they were cave paintings, or shall we say cave news, dating all the way back to the Paleolithic era, which was like 2.6 million years ago. Oh, they were fucking.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Then there are these ancient Egyptian scrolls called the Turin erotic papyrus scrolls from 1200 BCE. I know, I can't even wrap my head around what that means, really. Two thirds of that scroll was just pictures of sex acts. Now, when I say sex acts, I'm not talking missionary or like reverse cowgirl or just panties. No, they got funky with it.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Oh baby girl Lisa, listen, listen, they got real funky with them. On this scroll, there's an image of a woman who seems to be about to make sweet love to a mushroom, but also doing her makeup at the same time. Very relatable. And we love a multi-tasker. And this is very similar to the Kamasutra, which is a book from ancient India that is basically a sex guide with poetry, advice, and lots of illustrations of two people making sweet love. And then the Romans, the Romans were the best and freakyest when it came to their erotic art, okay? While they were conquering lands left and right,
Starting point is 00:07:55 they were also bringing the people, porn. My experts told me that the Romans are actually the reason porn spread all over the known world. Wow, thanks, Romans. Back in the 800s, which I'm sure is really hard to imagine, right? Exactly. Were you flying around around the 800s?
Starting point is 00:08:20 Don't, you don't talk. I just talked to myself, don't I? But in the 800s in Japan They kicked off something called shunga which were erotic woodblock prints also featuring people getting nasty So just go ahead and google shunga It's it's honestly a beautiful art It's about two people making love fucking doing, doing the nasty, sticking it in the holes, bumping ugly. Bumping ugly's, boinkin, slipin' the corn in the haystack.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And honestly, Hentai seems to be the new shunga. They took some liberties when it came to the size of the mill anatomy. They had very big, veiny, winners. And just like the ones every 14-year-old boy would draw in math class, but these ones were, they're different. They're from the 800s, right? Worth millions of dollars and also hanging in museums.
Starting point is 00:09:16 So I guess it's safe to say people have been drawing dicks since the dawn of time. Maybe it's in our DNA or something. I don't know. We love a dick drawing, don't we? Now we're these illustrations intended to get people off. You know, we're there for educational purposes. Now we don't know for sure, but scholars think yeah, probably because for as long as people have been around, they've been Yeah, probably because for as long as people have been around, they've been in heat, horny. I mean, the proof is in really you would die. I mean, we're alive now, so someone had to be horny for that to happen correct. Yes. And maybe you were even a little horny when you clicked this
Starting point is 00:09:58 link. No judgment here. But sorry, no titty either. So safe to say there's lots of ancient porn in history. And if you're interested, you can go ahead and Google it, but beware, it will be on your Google history. So I'm going to now move on to America and keep the porn history focused on America. Because boy, do we have a complicated relationship with pleasure. Pleasure. Peel out pleasure. Maybe it's because of our Puritan past. Maybe it's the Graham Cracker, but either way it's quite fascinating. Now porn, which is also sometimes called erotica, especially if it's written down and not just visual. This was pretty popular back in the 1700s. They loved Erotica.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Ooh, one novel in particular was called, quote, Fanny Hill, memoirs of a woman of pleasure. End quote. Fanny, can you hear me? Anyway, it was of course written by a man in his late 40s who wrote this hot steamy page turner, and this was before 50 shades of grey became 50 shades of grey. Remember that was an iconic moment. Now Fanny's tales were originally published in England, but pirated copies were being
Starting point is 00:11:21 smuggled into the United States and selling like hotcakes. And I can guess why? Let me read you one of my favorite sections. Oh, my dark history book's not here. You know, when did we lose that thing? It just took off and flew away. Ain't that funny. Okay. Quote, the sense of pain, however, prevailing from his prodigious size and stiffness, acting upon
Starting point is 00:11:49 me in those continued rapid thrusts with which he furiously pursued his penetration, made me cry out gently, oh my dear, you hurt me." End quote. Ha. But for some reason, this book ruffled many feathers. Maybe because the lead character of the story was a sex worker, which as we've learned has been heavily frowned upon throughout history,
Starting point is 00:12:17 or maybe because it was the 1700s. Reasons unknown. Anyway, Fanny's story touches on elements of orgies by sexuality and massacism, aka people getting off on pain. Hot, but that actually scared a lot of people. Yeah, it made a whole bunch of parents go what about the children? What about the children? They're gonna read this and have penetration thoughts. Sure, they've lived through wars, starvation, and plagues, but how dare they see a thick old
Starting point is 00:12:52 dick and some floppy ass titties? That's where I draw the line. A big advancement for porn happens in the 1800s when the steam-powered printing press gets invented. Now, millions of pages of a book could be produced every day. And writers weren't just printing copies of the Bible. They were also writing stories about blow jobs, but stuff, and everything in between. Because I don't know, creative freedom, let the people have it.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And soon, software magazines were the name of the game. But not magazines in the way we think of them. They had no pictures, because photography wasn't even an invented yet. So it's just words describing sexy scenarios. This genre became known to the public as, quote, saucy and spicy, end quote, ha. The cover stories promised juicy stories like the
Starting point is 00:13:46 perky pinups and high healed cuties. I love a cutie the orange thing so good. But then in 1839 Booth Booth Capp Photography is invented. Now for the first time, people didn't have to just describe sexy scenes with words or have to resort to drawing whatever was in their naughty little minds. And as you can imagine, photography changes the world of porn forever. Not long after this, we got the first example of photographic porn. And it was surprisingly high quality. It shows a straight-faced man gingerly inserting his penis into the vagina of an equally straight-faced and middle-aged woman. But a lot of the time, the models in these pics were women in the lower class.
Starting point is 00:14:40 And I'm not sure if it was because they simply needed money or maybe they just felt that they could not say no, but that's who was showing their goods when they first started selling naked pictures. But some people use this to their advantage. I mean, you couldn't just sell these pictures out in the open. So some women would hang out in train stations and secretly sell these pictures to people passing by. Hmm. I picture them wearing like trench coats with all the pockets and then they'd open it up and be like, yeah, you want some pictures? You want to see my butt? You want to see that, you know, honestly good for her. Get that money girl. That side hustle. So, this is so fun. I'm living my dream right now.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I've always wanted to hold a microphone with the purpose. Okay, I'm living. I can die happy. It's all about me, Joe, not you. Ha, ha, ha. So, listen, get him real close. Because porn starts evolving. And the technology is getting better and better.
Starting point is 00:15:44 But then America hits a little speed bump. Whoopsie. The Comstock law, which you might remember from many of our episodes, Graham Cracker or Dildo, this law essentially bans all things lured or obscene. AKA anything like pornography related in all forms was banned. So let's say you were caught with one of those little floppy books straight to jail. A copy of Fanny Hill? It's gonna be rough because you are going straight to jail. But this wouldn't be the end of porn, oh Nene. This is where porn even deeper underground. Tududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududududud Maybe imagine once the whole moving picture thing exists the whole world changes
Starting point is 00:16:47 Pictures that move whoa now there are opportunities to make artful movies about life and war and love and of course Taking the train to the penetration station by 1908 the oldest surviving porn film that we can accurately put a date on shows up. Now this was a French movie. Of course it was. And it was called le coup d'air au la bonne aburgine. I'm so sorry. You know, I was taking French on Babel, shout out to you Babel. But obviously I didn't get that far, huh? Whoops. Anyways, it's called at the Golden Shield. Now this film was silent and ran for a whopping four minutes. Sounds pretty accurate to how the situation goes down. We love that.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Now this movie has a very simple plot, a newlywed man and his wife walk into their hotel and as soon as they walk inside, they hear a strange noise. What is that? Oh my God, what is that? Thriller, well, they walk into the bedroom and find a hotel maid getting a little creative with a vacuum hose.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck. Yeah. If you know what I mean, you know, the newlyweds take this as an invitation to start having a threesome with the maid. And, you know, the newlyweds take this as an invitation to start having a threesome with them made. And before you know it, you've got a hardcore porno on your hands. Side note, why is this always a storyline with pornos? You walk in on someone masturbating in a weird way and then you join in. Has that ever happened to you? Let me know down below.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Would love to hear your story. But it got me thinking that it's kind of funny how this storyline is still around. And I went looking for this movie actually on the internet. I was like, it has to be somewhere and I found it. And I'm not going to show you a clip because I, you know, daddy YouTube will be mad and everyone else. that a YouTube will be mad and everyone else. But it was, it was very realistic. They were definitely having sexuals for sure. Lots of hair, lots of, no, no sounds though, because it was a silent film.
Starting point is 00:18:57 So it's just awkward. You're just washing the maid with the vacuum. And I was like, that's kind of a good idea. I'm not mad at it. So porn, great. So this movie, the French movie that I was like, that's kind of a good idea. I'm not mad at it. So porn, great. So this movie, the French movie that I cannot get the name of, it makes its way to America. And people are getting inspired. Yeah, they're getting their vacuums out. And then at this point, cinematic porn pops off. Thank for domain. Pornography. Pornography.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Pornography. Thank you. And we're back. So technology evolves. So that means porn evolves, right? Because we're humans and we evolve. So by 1910, porn creators start using new camera technology, which allows them to focus more clearly on people and things. So this really gave them the ability to do close-ups
Starting point is 00:19:54 for that certain shot. Sorry, but this is, that's what they're doing. They want to be able to zoom and focus on that. Yeah. And now the directors have the ability zooming in on people's privates. Naturally, viewers started to get more demanding about what they want in their porn videos. Like, I want to see that whole dick, not just a little nub of it. I want to see that whole Vainey member. You know, so if the audience really loved the look of one guy's winner, then you know he had a bright future ahead of him. And with all these beautiful people starting to appear on the silver screen, people started wanting
Starting point is 00:20:34 to look like them. And porn becomes aspirational. I mean these porn stars, they were trendsetters. I mean, thanks to porn, you could probably get a group on for but-hol bleaching. Yeah, I know, I'm not gonna try that. I looked in the mirror though, and I was like, God does a lot to me to see that. That's why it's in the back. Don't look, okay, it's not pretty. Around the 1900s to the 1940s,
Starting point is 00:21:00 something called the Stag Film takes off and really just dominates the porn space. Now stag films were silent, black and white, and they were 12-minute long porn old videos. I imagine that most of them didn't last that long, but that's okay. These videos featured hardcore intercourse and penetration. Now if you wanted to watch one of these stag films, step one, you had to be a guy. Unfortunately, women were not allowed into these stag film areas.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Next, you and your bros would have to go to a top secret underground location to watch this porn. So think of the locations like Speak Yeezy's from the prohibition era, but instead of booze, you would be Go in there for butts and booze Yeah, the stag film got its name from the slang word stag, which means dudes only like an England Bachelor parties They're I guess they're called stag parties. Let know. Those of you from England, let me know.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Stack parties, is that a thing? Okay. It's essentially just one big sausage fest. Ha. So these stack-thumb audiences were completely made up of the guys who watched these things together. Around this time is when hardcore porn first fists its way into the minds of American porn viewers.
Starting point is 00:22:24 The first one came out in 1950, and it was called, quote, a free ride or a grass sandwich. So naturally, what do I do? I go, I start googling what the hell is a grass sandwich? And urban dictionary came up, which did not disappoint. A grass sandwich, according to the urban dictionary, is, quote, someone slices the hairs surrounding the anus and puts them between two slices of bread. End quote. Huh? Yeah. I wonder if they're, are they using jam with that peanut butter butter? Is it just I'm curious got no answers. Let me know down below if you love a grass sandwich.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Anyway, so these staff films were breaking all kinds of barriers and just a few years later around 1920. La menage mode de ren du Madame Butterfly comes out. And this is actually the first known film to show bisexual and homosexual acts. Hooray! Wooh! Spicy! The porn community?
Starting point is 00:23:37 Hmm, thriving. Undercover, of course, because this is still Comstock Times, baby. Which means, going to these stag films was technically illegal. So bookstores are becoming more and more popular in the 1950s, and these stores installed viewing booths for people to privately watch porn. So while you and the family are just browsing for the latest, curious George book, Someone is getting curious with his George. Just a couple of feet away. It's like right there and you're like, ooh. You see in the back of these bookstores,
Starting point is 00:24:11 behind some loose, flappy curtains, you could privately, secretly watch some pornography. Technically, this was not legal at the time, but if you pulled that polyester curtain closed, ain't nobody gonna know. This is also the time when short film loops became really popular. These were made from editing films together so they could repeatedly play on a projector without someone having to pause the porn and change the film. Isn't that cool? These were kind of like the first gifts
Starting point is 00:24:47 or gifs. Hot debate. Again, porn. Trailblazer. Let the people have their pornography. Also in the 1950s, this is when porn brings the idea of the pin-up to the world. Now the phrase pin up means a person can pin up a giant pick of a sexy lady like baby page on their bedroom wall. Very straight to the point, no guessing here. I mean this is why I had posters of Chad Michael Murray scotch taped to my bedroom walls to look at and pretend to kiss maybe. And then once World War II started, pinup pictures really took off. Back in the day, the government okayed and even encouraged pinup pictures to be created and sent to soldiers, you know, to help raise morale. And just honestly, give them a break from their grueling days at work. I mean, at war. So they're like, yeah, I just put up the hot lady,
Starting point is 00:25:43 let me stare at her. So they were giving, yeah, just put up the hot lady. Let me stare at her. So they were giving them something to fantasize about. And this launched the career of tons of models and actresses who were doing pin-up work. I'm talking people like Rita Hayworth, Marilyn Monroe, and of course, Betty Page, who was known as the queen of pin-ups. The Betty Page community has been coming, they come for me so hard.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Ooh, there's a whole website dedicated to why I should apologize to the Betty Page fans. It's a complicated history, but I love Betty Page. She just murdered somebody, you guys. Shit. Not the point. Fun fact, in the early 1950s, Betty posed for a BDSM photo shoot for photographer Irving Klaugh. Now, if you don't know, BDSM stands for bondage, discipline, sadism, and masochism. Many people think BDSM is more of a recent thing, but apparently it's been around since
Starting point is 00:26:42 the 1880s, but BDSM is essentially a more niche branch of porn for people with any of those four fetishes, I mentioned. Bondage, meaning you're into being tied up or tying people up. Discipline or domination? So, rewards and punishments? Sadism means you get a little thrill by inflicting pain or humiliation onto someone else. That's you, Joan. Yeah. Oh, wait. Yeah. And then masochism means you like it when the pain or humiliation is inflicted upon you. We have a strange relationship, me and Joan. She makes me do things that maybe I don't want to do. Like I really didn't want to lock you up in that cage and set you on fire and that's you.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I'm just kidding, LOL. Consensual. All of it needs to be consensual. That's the most important part of BDSM. Okay. No burnin' birds. ASMR. The BDSM themes in 1950's photo shoot actually made Betty the first ever bondage model.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Hot, iconic, love that. She also worked with that same photographer on some risque little short films. Now, these were black and white specialty films that catered to specific requests from Irving's clientele. So this is like only fans before only fans. You know, you could be like, hey, I want you to eat a pizza while being tied up. And then take a picture of that for me. And Irving and Betty, they weren't making the porn that everyone else was making.
Starting point is 00:28:29 They were delivering that spicy niche content. Their films showed Betty in lingerie and high heels, acting out fetish specific scenarios, like abduction, domination, slave training and spanking. All consensual. Number one part that is most important. Okay. Consensual.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Betty alternated between playing a helpless, submissive, and then also a stern, dominatrix. A girl who can do both. Hat. Hugh Hefner, the founder of Playboy, called Betty, quote, a remarkable lady and iconic figure in pop culture, who influenced sexuality, taste and fashion, and had a tremendous impact on our society.
Starting point is 00:29:15 End quote. Hugh Hefner, maybe you know him, maybe you love him, maybe you watched all that Playboy stuff. Remember that documentary? It was like exposed. And it was like, well, I could totally see him being a shithead. But Hugh Heffner published the very first playboy in December of 1953. Now, playboy attempted to brand itself as an upscale magazine. Heffner himself described it as, quote, a handbook for the urban male. Ant's credit, I mean, he achieved that alongside picks
Starting point is 00:29:45 of nude women, each issue had articles and interviews about news and culture with famous artists, politicians, even Nobel Prize winning writers. So he's getting credibility here. And you know that book we all had to read in high school? Fair and high 451 by Ray Bradbury. I actually just read it recently, it still holds up. But that originally appeared as a series of short stories in Playboy in 1954. Now all of that
Starting point is 00:30:14 sounds great, right? Yeah, well, little do people know that Playboy is beginning, much like a lot of porn started as a result of a man taking advantage of a woman's body. So even though Marilyn Monroe was featured on the cover of the iconic first issue of Playboy, well, she never actually posed for the magazine. Get this. She didn't even consent to being a part of it, and on top of that, Heffner never paid her a dime. Yeah, And on top of that, Hepnur never paid her a dime.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah, how the hell does that happen? Subscription. In 1949, Marilyn, she wasn't a big movie star. She was not yet. She was struggling to find acting work, and she could not pay her bills. So Marilyn agreed to pose nude for a pinup photographer. His name was Tom Kelly. Now for this work, Tom paid her $50 whole dollars, which Marilyn used to make a car payment. Great.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Now here's the thing, the photographer promised that people would not be able to tell. It was in fact Marilyn posing nude. She even signed her name to the work as Mona Monroe. So why did she want all of these conditions to be met? While in her own words, she said, quote, I may have wanted to protect myself. I was nervous, embarrassed, even ashamed of what I had done. I did not want my name to appear on that model release." End quote.
Starting point is 00:31:46 50-Hole Dollhares. Ugh. Poor thing. Well, the photographer ended up selling these pictures of Marilyn for $900 to a company that was based in Chicago. And when do you know it, Marilyn finally had her breakthrough the next year and her career popped off. From 1950 to 1953, she books major roles in something like 17 movies and Hugh Hathner. He sees that Marilyn is all of a sudden the talk of the town.
Starting point is 00:32:20 He's probably seeing dollars signs, let's be real here. So he ends up buying the rights to those Maryland photos for $500 and puts them in the first issue of Playboy and the rest is history. The wild thing is that Maryland never made more than that initial $50 for this. She even had to go buy a copy of the magazine to even see it herself. And here's another crazy part. Hugh Heffner and Marilyn Monroe actually never met in person. Yeah, never. She launched his business and he couldn't
Starting point is 00:32:53 at least take her to dinner. Say thank you. No. But this set up a heated competition between Playboy and other naked magazines of the time. Playboy had proved that there was a big demand to be met, but other magazine executives realized that things could be that I'm taking a step further. I mean Playboy was only showing top halfs and butt cracks. So there was a real meeting of the minds. And some guy said, Hey, what if we showed
Starting point is 00:33:27 peeps? And baby, this was a big game changer. Society has never recovered. Just kidding. Remember, they were drawing big old Dix in temples thousands of years ago. So it was really nothing new to see here. But America was rocked.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Rocked to its core. This kicked off a trend with magazines trying to top each other with graphic pictures and pushing the boundaries of the law. So one magazine called Penthouse debuted in 1965 and they made big waves all over the country because they're nude photos of women included. Go ahead, John. Pubek hair. That's right, John. Wow. Pubek hair. You knew that one.
Starting point is 00:34:14 So the creator of Penthouse said, quote, we were the first to show full frontal nudity, the first to expose the clitoris completely. I think we made a very serious contribution to the liberalization of laws and attitudes." And a lot of people were like, yeah, this guy has a point. And then in 1979, another magazine drops.
Starting point is 00:34:36 This one's called Hustler in All Caps, like they're yelling at you. Hustler! And then they go where no porn had its gone before. Their pages are filled with colorful photos that showed female genitals, sex acts, fetishes, and sex toys. Oh my god! Nothing was off limits for Hustler magazine. This ends up ushering in the golden age of porn. This is about the 60s and the 70s. This is when porn starts to become a cultural phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:35:11 In 1960, Stagg Films had evolved to what is known as an X-rated movie theater, and about 20 of them had popped up all around America. But over the next 10 years, that number skyrocketed to more than 750 opening all across America. But over the next 10 years, that number skyrocketed to more than 750 opening all across America. I really hope they were cleaning those seats. Should bring my black light in for that investigation. In 1970, we get the first full-length porn movie with a storyline, and that opened nationwide. It was called Mona, the Virgin Nymph. And some researchers point to this being the moment
Starting point is 00:35:50 when porn becomes a little bit more mainstream. It's no longer something you have to do underground or like in bookstore, boosts with sticky floors. Pornow from this era started to see theatrical releases. Like, you know, when theaters have those giant spotlights outside in a red carpet and photos, yeah, they were getting that type of treatment. And these films have much higher production value than the stuff that had come before. And the higher the production value, the less the less CD it felt.
Starting point is 00:36:25 It doesn't feel gross. You didn't leave feeling like a sinner, but did an iconic high production porno that defined porn videos forever comes to the front lines. The year is 1972. A movie sent shockwaves all over America. There's a shockwaves, you hear it? Episode, now let's get back to today's story. Pornography!
Starting point is 00:36:51 Okay, so look, the year is 1972, and a movie sent shockwaves all over America. You've probably heard of it, maybe you haven't, but it was called Deep Th. Deep throat. Side note, gnarse, the makeup company, they make a blush. It's called deep throat. Love that blush. But I had a lot of fun recommending it to some more mature ladies when I worked at Sephora. And I'd be like, oh, this color. And they'd be like, what the, I'd put the blush on them. And they'd be like, oh, this color. And they'd be like, what the, I'd put the blush on them. And they'd be like, oh, what? What color is that?
Starting point is 00:37:26 And I'd be like, oh, it's steep throat. Ah, ah, ah, ah. Like it was always awkward, but it was such a pretty blush color that I like worked on everybody. Anyways, let's go back to the actual story, Bailey, focus. Thank you. So when it hit theaters, people went absolutely
Starting point is 00:37:42 apeshit for it. It looked like a real movie. It looked like a real movie. It felt like a real movie, but the plot was still porn-based. The whole story is about an actress named Linda Lovelace, whose character discovers that she actually has a clit in her throat. Poor thing. And then she learns how to reach it.
Starting point is 00:38:04 The tagline of the movie is, quote, how far does a girl have to go to untangle her tingle? I feel like we could have done better, but with that, but okay, sure. And this movie became so big that one of the most family friendly and famous figures on television at the time, Johnny Carson even mentioned the new movie on his show. And it was a very big deal. Tens of millions of people tuned into his show every night. If Johnny Carson talked about something in particular, everybody was talking about it.
Starting point is 00:38:39 And it wasn't long after that it became kind of, okay, to watch porn in X-rated theaters. But even more than that, this movie delivered on its title. The sex act, known as deep-throating, got its name from this movie. So now millions of women have the pleasure of at some point in their life being asked to deep-throated. Guilty. Ha ha ha ha. So naturally, celebrities, diplomats, business people,
Starting point is 00:39:09 and critics all went to the theaters and bought tickets so they could be part of this cultural phenomenon. Because of this movie, a journalist at the New York Times coined the phrase, poor no chic. As in, it's now chic to watch porn in your designer outfit. Uh-huh, your designer dildo. Now some consider deep throat
Starting point is 00:39:30 to be the most profitable movie of all time. Okay, look, this math is good math. It only costs $25,000 to make the movie deep throat, okay? But then some believe the film took in over $600 million. Wow, and that is in 1972 dollars. That translates to the movie making $4.2 billion today. Holy crap, let's make a deep throat part two. Who's down? I'll be Linda Lovelace. Ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Just kidding, but I will. I'll be getting someone. Okay, look, sex really sells, okay? It's obvious. Now these estimates are disputed, and the filmmakers say the number is actually higher. But not all that glitters is gold, because as star I mentioned earlier, Linda Lovelace, all poor thing, she came out and said that she was sexually assaulted during the production
Starting point is 00:40:37 of the movie, and she did not have a good time. The death of porn's golden era comes because of another technological revolution. You see, in the 1980s, the home video cassette player, or VCR as we know it, was invented. Now, once the VCR splashed onto the scene with those portable cassettes, now you can watch porn in the comfort of your own home. comfort of your own home. That was a clap. And then, in 1985, the personal camcorder comes out, which means that the power is now in the hands of the people. Oh, you want porn?
Starting point is 00:41:16 Here you go. Make it yourself, peasants. I mean, the camcorder really launched the video era of porn, and people could record whatever they wanted directly to tape. So most people would, you know, film kids opening Christmas presents, family vacations, a new rug they got, suck in dick, all just the normal things people did with a camcorder. Fun. And then all this paved the way for a little thing called Girls Gone Why Do you remember those infomercials?
Starting point is 00:41:48 Warning! This video contains adult content not suitable for children I mean we had like a sleep over pretend we sleep but then you open one eye and you're like What is that? What is going on? Why are girls just showing titties? That was the uh where we were at at that time But that was nothing compared to the 1990s when porn was launched on the internet. No more VHS baby. Now, people could just upload their own porn to the world-wide web. Or, they would steal someone else's and sell it for a pretty penny.
Starting point is 00:42:23 It got real nasty. Like what happened to Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee, their private homemade sex tape got stolen and leaked to the internet. And for a while there was like nothing they could do. They eventually sued the guy which great, but this celebrity scandal, this intimate sex tape, just made Americans want more. They wanted more sex tapes, more celebrity sex tapes, a little inside as to like how they make love. It was very intrusive. But it was like what everybody was going for. If you were in living through the early 2000s, it was a rough time peeping in the national
Starting point is 00:43:03 inquirers in like the grocery store I mean we all know about the Kim sex tape. There was one night in Paris There was all these gross upskirts shots of female celebrities simply stepping out of their car And it felt like every other day there was some new celebrity sex scandal some of them were were coming off desperate Like look, I have a sex tape too It's just me posing in different poses. And then others like their tapes were being stolen, leaked, and it was violating. I feel like the 2000s were rough, and they set a real bad precedent, culturally speaking.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Because pornography is rising in popularity at this time in a big way, but porn itself is not the problem. Like anything else in the world, people found a way to weaponize it. And back in 2014, hackers took a step further and figured out how to break into personal eye-cloud accounts of celebrities and look through their camera roll for personal pictures. Yikes. And when I say personal pictures, I mean the nodes, they were looking for the nodes. So these hackers would get the nodes. Then they'd leak the pictures on the internet, and this became known as the FAPINING. I just learned that. I guess someone called it that. I don't know who. I mean, it was bad. There was like over 400 graphic images of over 100
Starting point is 00:44:26 celebrities, and they were leaked onto the internet. No, no, you cannot be doing that. That is inappropriate. You need to go to jail. Thank you. My time is done. Well, the everyday people at home, they were taking notes because by now the internet was wreaking havoc everywhere So really anyone could have a sex tape So this little phenomenon of using people's private tapes and photos without their consent and weaponizing them by making them public Starts to become a problem for everyone. I mean not just celebrities This is when porn just takes a freaking dark turn to non-concentral porn. In other words, this is when it becomes known as Revenge porn. Revenge porn is when essentially you don't consent to naked pictures of yourself to be uploaded onto the internet. Like you sent it
Starting point is 00:45:19 to maybe your ex-boyfriend or your ex-lever in general and then they hate you for some nasty reason. And then they upload the photos of you or videos of you onto the internet. So it's like some people would be scrolling and then get a text like, Hey, I just saw you on this porn site. Here's your pick. And you be like, What the fuck? It's not good. It's messy and it's disgusting. And people do this. And I feel bad for them because they're going to rot in hell. Sorry, I spoke with Satan. We had a meeting this morning and he told me, so have fun in the underworld. Anyways, so revenge porn.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Now revenge porn actually has a hot debate around the name. Some people want, I forget what they want to call it. I can't imagine the horror of seeing yourself on a porn website and realizing that someone had released your sex tape or your images with your ex or a loan to this website. I mean the trauma. Step one, how do you even get the photo and stuff down? You know, and this wasn't like a one time occurrence. This has been happening over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:46:24 So many people out there. It had become such a big problem that big porn websites like PornHub had to change their policies so that only verified creators could upload videos. I guess there's some sort of vetting process for these people who are uploading, but these changes, I guess, happened pretty recently, which is like, it's a little slow response, but hey, at least it's a step in the right direction, I guess. And really, these platforms are just trying to cover their asses from a, from federal and state laws, because as of February, 2021, 46 states and Washington, DC past laws outlawing distribution or a production
Starting point is 00:47:09 of non-consensual pornography. Hahahaha! AKA, you cannot release revenge porn. Nene, you little nasties. You're gonna go to fucking prison. And guess when the federal version of the law went into effect October 1st, 2022 Snaps hello recent, okay, but hey, it's in place
Starting point is 00:47:35 We're protected for the most part. I don't know what states didn't pass that but don't go there Because if someone releases a sex tape you made with a boyfriend They can go to prison. And that's what we want. Some accountability for being a shithead. So thanks, baby Jesus. These laws exist now. Because as you can probably tell about this story, technology keeps evolving and porn evolves right along with it. And that brings us to a new technological advancement in pornography, the deep fake. Now these are kind of scary because a deep fake
Starting point is 00:48:12 is essentially when you can copy, paste, someone's face onto someone else's body. And then you can make them do or say whatever you want. Sometimes they're honestly very convincing. There's this one TikTok account and it's a deep fake of Tom Cruise and I was positive it was him. I was like wow this Tom Cruise is wild because he's doing some wild shit but it was it was a deep fake. It was someone else's body and they put his head on the body and it was talking and like it's just creepy. Anyway what I'm getting at is this deep fake technology is apparently being used to morph
Starting point is 00:48:49 people into porn. Yeah. So you could put the president's face on a porn star's body and then ta-da. It's a porno with the commander and chief. It's giving people too much creative freedom and it can be quite dangerous because it looks so real. Now here's something crazy. Deep fakes and porn? It's been a problem for way longer than you might think. It actually goes all the way back to the 19th century, 1888. In fact, there was this guy named Lagrange Brown.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Hey guy. And Lagrange, he was a very well-known established photographer, and he shot photos for the New York Times. So he was hired by elite New York families to take portraits, but he also shot some scandalous pictures of naked women, sometimes in sexy little lingerie or even costumes. Now, Lagrange might be the daddy of the deep fake because he, when he was in his little dark room, developing these photos, what he would do is take a portrait
Starting point is 00:49:53 of an upstanding young lady, cut out her head of the negative and then put it on top of one of the sexy negatives, essentially creating a Frankenstein picture of what looked like a well-to-do girl from a respectable family posing nude. I love a good craft. He was a DIY king, but like this was, it looked real, you know, and it could ruin some people's
Starting point is 00:50:18 names. It was not very nice of him. The Grange must have had some time on his hands. I mean, it was 1888, so you were either churning butter or chopping off heads. So of course, he had free time. Anyways, he ended up making 500 of these non-consensual, graphic fake pictures over the course of two years
Starting point is 00:50:39 and put them on display in a Brooklyn saloon. I wanna see one. I didn't see one. I didn't see one. I forgot to Google it. I wanted to see what it looks like. I want one. This was 1888. So when people saw it, they assumed the photographs were real. I mean, why would you question it? Nobody even knew like, you could, then how photographs even worked, you know, like, so no one knows about cutting a negative. What does that mean? You know, he was like way ahead of his time. And it was more than enough to ruin the reputations of these women.
Starting point is 00:51:09 So the grain ended up being arrested. And then the truth came out that the photographs were indeed fake. Following his arrest, according to the New York Times, the pictures were put under lock-in key and shown to no one. Simpler times, those internet internet free days, huh? I mean, today the internet is making porn very accessible, maybe a little too accessible, someone say. And the reason I bring that up is because while I
Starting point is 00:51:37 celebrate porn, support it, whatever. There's also another site to it. It's a problem that's really playing out today. Many people are kind of curious to see how this is going to end up, can't be good. So today, around 40 million adults in America visit porn sites on a daily or regular basis. That's because this is a habit more and more people are picking up, especially in their teen years. So research has shown that the average age of someone when they first see porn is the age of 14. And as many as 93.2% of boys first see hardcore porn before they are 18 years old.
Starting point is 00:52:18 And this is kind of concerning or raises some red flags because these are formative years that these people are viewing hardcore. Horn. These are the years where young adults first start seriously dating and what they see on the internet can and has influenced how they act in sexual relationships. According to UNICEF, the United Nations International Children's Emergency Fund, they say exposure to porn at the young age can lead to mental health issues, sexism, objectification of women,
Starting point is 00:52:54 sexual violence, and other not-so-great outcomes. So yes, it can leave a lasting impression that influences how these young boys treat their partners in the future. I mean, when you think about it, when you're viewing porn at a young age, you're kind of learning how to have sex from watching porn. And it's like learning to drive from watching the fast and the furious, you know, not not a good combo. Most porn today is hardcore and women are usually not being treated the best.
Starting point is 00:53:27 They're being spit on, which some people like it. I got hot, but it's not normal. You know, it's not something you do to Nancy down the street. Maybe, if she asks for it, then sure. But it's almost like young boys are taught that degrading women is how they're supposed to have sex, and it's a little concerning. Almost like porn is racing boys to be aggressive towards women.
Starting point is 00:53:53 And worst of all, many are getting addicted to it at a very young age. Now, I know some of you are gonna be like, eh, well, I like just kind of take this and create something bigger, but it's like porn's not going to go away. So how do we help with kids being raised and not viewing hardcore shit? You know, I don't know. I don't have answers for you. I'm just giving you numbers to know Because at the end, damn, not your parents or anything. I'm just telling you what I learned. It's really that simple
Starting point is 00:54:23 Take this information, do something with it or don't. That's up to you. So porn addiction is a very real problem. As many as 10 million adults admit to having an addiction to porn. And now there's a lot of reasons for that, but some of them are that people need to find more and more graphic content to satisfy their urges.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Now this can lead to sexual compulsions in the real world. Research shows that watching porn and taking a drug like cocaine both trigger something called the dopamine process in the reward center of the brain. So think of dopamine as the pleasure chemical that is released when we experience something we like. Ooh, maybe you're eating some delicious food snuggling a puppy on your dog or what? And it really your brain releases dopamine because you're like, Oh, I love this eating french fries.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Or for many watching porn, yeah, you know, just make some feel good. So when the chemical is let loose, it makes a person think like, yeah, you know, it just makes them feel good. So when the chemical is let loose, it makes a person think like, ooh, me like this thing, me want more, more, more. But where porn and drug addiction are different is that porn addicts have a harder time recovering than, let's say, cocaine addicts. That's because cocus users can get the drug out of their system The pornographic images are burned into the brain forever. So what do you do? We're doing cocaine. I don't know. We're doing cocaine Joan. We're back to that. Yep, already So yeah, there are two sides to every story into our history and porn is no exception.
Starting point is 00:56:06 We can celebrate it, support it, be honest about it, talk about it, whatever. But we also have to raise a little flag and let people know about what it's doing to other people when it comes to addiction and teenagers, you know, we just, we, and researchers just don't know how this is going to end up. So we'll see, buckle up. I'm going to start wearing a chest, a chested about. Yeah. Now look, porn isn't going anywhere. It's always been around for a very long time before Jesus.
Starting point is 00:56:43 And it's always going to be around. So why not make it a safe space? And that's exactly what a website like OnlyFans is trying to do. People seem to like this one because the creator is totally in charge of what kind of content they put up, how much they show, how much they don't show, and they can really build personal relationships with fans and cater to whatever hot kink they want.
Starting point is 00:57:10 And their reviewers are sponsoring them directly, so it's more immersive, hands-on, farmed to table. But again, where does it end? I don't know. When we started the episode, I only mentioned a few of the genres on P hubs year in review, but there are hundreds, if not thousands, more out there. It feels like it's getting to a point where it's just not enough. And it's clear, porn addiction is affecting the youth, and then think about technology getting tossed into the mix. Ooh, I want sex with aliens.
Starting point is 00:57:41 You know what I'm saying? They have that. That's where you can find me. Sex with the aliens. You know, Facebook even has those goggle things where you can have sex with virtual people, which is like, I'd rather have weird, not weirdos, but like, you know, I'd rather have guys and girls have sex with virtual people versus going out on the street
Starting point is 00:58:01 and like doing something else, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. It's like, pick one, I don't know if I am? I don't know. It's like pick one. I don't know. But seriously, what do you think about it? It's like how did we get from the vacuum lady all the way to where we are now, with technology, with everything?
Starting point is 00:58:17 Like what is the answer here? Do we need less porn, better porn, no porn, amateur porn? What are we doing? I don't know. But one thing I know for sure is this, if you take the name of your first pet and put it together with the name of the street you grew up on, allegedly this is your porn star name. So I got a good porn star name. My porn star name is Sassy Irredanus. That's right. Irredanus is the street name I grew up on.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Sassy was my first cat. Sassy Irredanus. Just call me that Joan. Sassy. Sassy Irredanus. Miss Irredanez. Well, everyone, pornography, huh? Wasn't that a journey. Thank you for learning with me today.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Remember, don't be afraid to ask questions to get the whole story because you deserve that bar bra. Now, I'd love to hear your guys' reactions to today's story. So make sure to use the hashtag dark history over on social media so I can follow along and leave a comment down below in the comment section on YouTube so I can say hi. Hi, you can also join me over my YouTube where you can watch these episodes on Thursday after the podcast airs and while you're there you can also catch my murder mystery and makeup. I hope you have a great rest of your day. Be safe out there. Make good choices.
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