Date Yourself Instead - You are SO WORTHY of your wildest dreams ✨ with Andraya Kenton

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

In this episode, I sit down with one of my good friends and ultimate boss muses, Andraya Kenton - the visionary founder behind Celeste Starre, Meme London, and the newest self-love ritual essential, Luna Roca (yes, volcanic face rollers that literally shift your frequency).We talk about:The power of words and intention in building your dream lifeWhy your word is your wand (and how to cast with clarity)Manifesting success in business, love, and self-worthNavigating the sacred balance between work, motherhood, and home lifeTrusting you're worthy of big love and big dreamsThis episode is for the woman who knows she’s meant for more and is ready to claim it.✨ Use code LYSS for $$ off all Celeste Starre, Meme London, and Luna Roca orders — because you deserve to wear your magic.SHOP LUNA ROCA HERE. Use code LYSS.Shop Celeste Starre here. Use code LYSS.Follow Andraya on instagram: @andrayakenton

in Bali, you know how powerful the energy of the island is. If you say something, it happens right away, the good or the bad. So you have to really be careful and think about when you're going out with your girlfriends and you're sitting around the table, do you want to talk about the pain in the past? Or do you want to talk about the future and all the exciting things you want to bring into your life? It's your choice. Okay, guys, usually these episodes are solo, but today I had to have a very special guest

on the podcast. One of my amazing, inspiring friends, Andrea Kenton. I'm giving her the proper introduction because she is one of the most inspiring people I've ever met. She's a self-made multi-seven figure founder of not one, not two, but three of the most amazing brands. The jewelry labels Celeste Star and Mimi London and Stacked. Her waterproof jewelry brand with two stores and creative studios in Bali. Her newest venture is Luna Rocka, a volcanic face roller that's already going viral. It's sustainable and designed to help you glow naturally feel confident in your skin and take up space without apology. Her jewelry has been featured in magazines like Vogue and worn by icons including Rihanna, JLo, Kate Hudson, GJ Hadid, and so many more. But beyond all of this,

she's also one of my good friends and one of the most spiritual angel people that I know. You're also a mom. You do everything. You literally do everything. It's just super inspiring. And I know everyone who's listening today is going to be mind blown by this episode and super activated. We've been talking a lot about Kundalini on the podcast now, so I think they're going to be definitely activated after this episode. Exciting. Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to do this. Thank you for the amazing introduction. I'm blushing. You just do so much and you have so many things going on. I am amazed by how you do it all. I feel like also on top of that being a mom, having to balance your family, work life, everything, a lot of people will be like, how do you manage to have the time? How do

you find the time? How do you find the balance? I think we should start off with that. And also, I'll tell people how we met, but first, we could just dive right into a little bit of your story if you want to share. Balance is such a tricky thing to find. I think no matter what you're doing, whether you have kids or not, if you're, you know, at home looking after kids or trying to have a job, there's friends and all of it combined is super overwhelming. For me, there's always something that slides, unfortunately. I don't think you can be 100% all in. in any area of your life. But my spiritual practices definitely help me so much.

My morning meditations and beach walks. And I have to have some time for myself to be able to give myself to all of my family and my businesses. Yeah. How did you like even get started? Were you always really spiritual? Were you always into manifestation? Or do you think you were just born this way?

We've had this discussion before where I feel like we kind of know. knew we were born to or destined to do something different. Do you feel like that was always your path where you were going to create all these businesses and have this life? I think looking back, I never ever imagined I would be exactly where I am today. And I can't imagine where I'll be in five years from now. But I always knew that anything I wanted was within reach. Yeah. And I always felt very confident that if I had a dream, it was already mine from when I was a little girl. I would like look through the newspaper and see all the places in the world. How much does it cost to fly there and find it on a map and look it up? And I always knew that I would see the world and that

although where I grew up is a beautiful tiny town, I always knew that that wasn't for me and that I was going to travel, explore and build something. And I feel like I still don't know exactly what that is. Although I built all these different things, I feel like there's always more. And I think that's what's so exciting is to keep dreaming and seeing what comes Yeah, for sure. Something that I've watched you do is you have an idea, you have a vision, and you're just like, okay, I'm going to do it. And then you do it and you actually take action and do it. And I think that's also something so different that a lot of people don't do that. You know, a lot of people, they have an idea in their head, but they're too afraid to act on it or they're too afraid to actually work towards a goal because it seems too big or it seems too out of reach. And yeah, you just have so much. And on top of that, you're able to. also manifest the dream partner, the dream family, everything that most people are like, wow, how can you do it all at the same time? I think that's like a, it's like a superpower. Well, I don't think I can take all the credit because I'm a manifesting generator. So according to

my human design, which I lovely friend Mona has taught me a lot about. It is part of who I am. Yeah. And as far as actually thinks, I think it's exciting. Why wait? You know, when you have these ideas, fear is probably one of my biggest turtles because I have fear of fail. I don't ever, you know, I'm always a little, you know, afraid, but if you don't jump in with both feet, then what are you doing? Somebody else will do it. And I feel like we all get these ideas and these dreams, but they're not always just solely ours. They're, you know, they're available for lots of people. Oh no, I'm like, should I have to go? I'm like, wait, because I have so many ideas. But no, it's so true. Because have you ever thought of something? And then a few years

later, you see someone else has sold that company for a hundred million dollars. Because I thought of that actually many years ago, and that was my idea. That's definitely happened to me before. I think that happened to me with that Poshmark app. I thought of Poshmark when I was like 10 years old because I was selling my clothes on eBay. I was always this little baby entrepreneur. So my parents would buy me gifts and then I would just sell everything and they'd be like, wear all the toys and clothes.

And clothes I gave you little baby Capricorn. And I was like, oh, I have an eBay account and I sold everything you gave me on eBay. My mom gifted me really expensive things, like jewelry and everything. And I was just like, I want the money. And it really, but yeah, there was this idea I had. Why is there not something where people could go and buy other people's clothes that's easier? Because eBay was everything and it was so chaotic and so messy and hard to find things. And then Poshmark came out and I was like, oh, that was probably a good idea.

Yeah. That's why we have to help. And I think so often things in our head seem. much more complicated than they are. You just have to take that first step. That being said, as I've entered into the beauty industry, which is so different, I was saying to this new publicist that we're working with, I think if I had any idea how hard this is actually going to be, I wouldn't have done it. Yeah. So you sometimes have to just have like blind faith and jump in and try. And what's the worse that can happen? At least you tried. I don't know if I could sit

with myself when I'm 85 years old looking back and being like, oh, I wish I had done that, but I didn't try. You know, that's how I am able to take action. It's by the fear of not having done it and looking back on my life and regretting it. I kind of want to get into a little bit of your background because a lot of people probably want to know where you're from, how you grew up. Yeah, just more about your childhood or just where you grew up and where you started and how you started your first business.

Okay. So I grew up in a little tiny. town called La Conner, which is about an hour north of Seattle, and it's about an hour away from the Canadian border with Vancouver just on the other side. There were 20-something kids in my class, like all the way through school. So it was really easy to be really good at everything because there wasn't a lot of competition, so I think I had like a really inflated sense of self and everything. But you're moon's in Leo. Yeah. Right. That's true. That's true. And I've always been entrepreneurial.

My dad is an entrepreneur and always worked for himself. So I had that as a model. And my mom was like an incredible stay-at-home mom. And then also later on had her own businesses as well. And I always, always wanted like you to work. I started a pet walking business. I would advertise in the local paper. And when people went on holiday, I'd water their plants and walk their pets.

I also, we grew up near all these tulip fields. and there's a big tulip festival. It's like very cute in American. And I would, my parents were friends with one of the big farmers and he would let me take all these tulips and daffodils. And I started selling them to all the restaurants in the town who were like replenishing them every few days. And that kind of grew and grew.

And eventually they started charging me. And then I rented a piece of their field. And I set up a booth. And I was on the tour bus map. So the buses would stop and buy all the flowers. And then I rented a space to Kodak. when people still used film. And they were selling film for people's cameras and doing like course rides in the field.

And obviously my parents were helping me, but I would employ other people to come and help in the day. And I would work after school. It's like a short season. And we started doing some work with like the Boys and Girls Club. So we like morphed it into like charitable giving, which my parents also really instilled in me. And that was an amazing business. I wish I still had it. I think the Boys and Girls Club have it now.

But it was. That's so cool, though. So you were always an entrepreneur. Always. And I also had some different eBay businesses like you and sold things. And just always was, I mean, I've had so many different random. I tried to have a hat company once. I sold like sun hats and I was like gluing ribbons and like patches on them.

You are a master of side quests. Yeah, a lot. But that's the thing. It's like you're always reinventing yourself and always thinking of new ideas and you have obviously such a creative mind that you can't just do one thing. thing. And that's, that's amazing because you were born that way, you know. And I think that's what I've realized talking to people in the creative space and whatever. It's kind of like you're just born with this vision where you could pretty much do anything. But then sometimes things will get

in the way. I think everyone has that. But then there's people in your life who might tell you, oh, that's too unrealistic or that's, you know, not possible because you don't have the means to do that or you don't have the environment to do that or the money to do that. But how is your experience in that sense? Was your family really supportive of that? Or were you just kind of like, I'm going to do my own thing. And they were like, what is this girl talking about? I'm really, really fortunate that I chose parents, which I, you know, I believe that we get to kind of pick our, we're with our sole family.

We can kind of pick them. And they've always, always supported me. They've never guilted me. You know, I left the U.S. when I was 18 and I was back for a small stint in Miami, but they've never tried to pigeonhole me up. I think they knew they couldn't stop me also. I think wisely there was no stopping me. But touching on what you said about people telling you you're not enough or this isn't possible or you don't have the means, that's their trauma, that's their lived experience, that's theirs.

It's not yours. And I think it's important to constantly sit within yourself and take note of that and say, are these my fears or are these my friend's fears or my parents' fears? When you can identify that they're not your fears, I think it gives you more power to really chase your dreams without any, like, limits on them. For sure. And I think that's something that you also realize, as I know for me, between my 20s and 30s, I shifted so much into just anchoring more in who I am because there are so many voices. With my work, I was always really confident in my path and I always was really stubborn about it. And if anyone said anything about it, I was like, I'm still going to do this. I don't want to work for someone.

I kind of just want to do my own thing. I have so many ideas and I always kind of stayed true to who I was. But with just other things, I think when you ask too many people, when you give your power away and you're not listening to that voice inside and you're actually giving your power away to other people just by asking them for advice, it could lead you down the wrong path and it could lead you in places that you might not want to be. And I know in my last relationship specifically, because we were just talking about this, how I'm easily influenced by the people around me in my life with my feelings, I think I never could listen to my intuition because I was just with someone who would block it and make me feel like I was wrong or whatever. So I would make these other decisions and it kind of,

it led me on this path that wasn't really in alignment. So just interesting because yeah, it sounds like you've kind of forged your own lane and you were just like, this is what I'm doing. And that's how you've always been. So that's really inspiring. I am very, I believe in the evil eye and like accidental like jealousy or I think so many people don't mean to, but they kind of maybe like some of that we'll do it sometimes. You see something go, oh, I wish I had some of that. And I think because of that, I'm very protective of my ideas until they're ready to go. And I'm also not. Until they're like out. Yeah, I'm also, it's funny, my husband was saying, oh, you're going to talk about how you are terrible like getting any kind of constructive criticism.

And I said, yeah, so like with this specifically, if I were to say to you, oh, what do you think of this packaging? And you were like, oh, I don't like it. I'm like, well, what do you know? Oh, I see. So it's better for me to have a really clear, strong idea of what I want to do. And then when it's ready, I will speak to people that. whose opinion I really respect and trust, but I believe in protecting some of your ideas until you're really ready because you can be talked out of them or pushed one way or another.

And your gut, your heart knows what you should be doing. Yeah, especially I can relate to that from the podcast, just people pulling me in all different directions and making me feel like I should be doing things a certain specific way. And if I don't, I'm not going to be successful at it. And I was pressured really hard by my original management, who I signed with because they We were like, oh, we're going to get you this big deal and whatever. And I was like, okay. And I was just listening to them because I was so new to the industry.

But in my head, I was like, that's not how I want to do it. But because I was so new to the space and sometimes when we're new to a career path and we don't really know the ins and outs of it, we're more vulnerable. So I was just listening because I was like, oh, well, he might know best because he's been in the podcast industry and sold a huge podcast for hundreds of millions of dollars. So he knows everything that I should be doing to be on track to do the same thing. And then what ended up happening was I gave all of my power away and I was just trusting someone else entirely, even though it sat wrong with me. And I was like, this feels weird. It doesn't feel an alignment. I don't trust him when I spoke to him.

Every time I spoke to him, he was my manager and I was afraid of him. And I was like, this is not supposed to be scared of the people that represent me. It's very bizarre. Even though I know it happens a lot in like, or just here in like different industries, like the music industry, whatever. but the podcast industry, I was like, I don't want to feel like I'm walking on eggshells with my brand and what I'm building. But I trusted him. Oh, I didn't trust him, but I was listening to him. And it set me on a path where I just knew that I was going in circles and it wasn't going to get me to where I am today at all.

Because the more it grew, the more he was like, no, you should be doing this. You should be doing that. You should sign this deal just because it's money. And then someone will give you more money later, but you have to do this first. And I was like, I'm not going to do this just for a paycheck. And so what did you do? Like, was there anything specific that you did that was like a shift that made you fully call your power back in and totally trust yourself? I'm very clair sentient, I think it is, where you just feel everything.

And I think you're clear everything. Claire everything. Maybe. Maybe I am guided. I'm very guided. I'm very protected. And back then, this was before I started Kundalini, which we're going to get into. but I was doing a lot of energy work, but I wasn't doing Kundalini.

I wasn't at the point where at the level where I was accessing all of these different realms and really understood myself at a soul level. It was still like, yeah, I was spiritual. I was doing sound healing. I was doing meditation. But even then, when I was around him, at the time, I didn't know this was a terrible sign. I just thought maybe I was insecure. Right.

So I blamed it on myself. And I was like, you know what? I'm anxious, but maybe it's because I think he's a professional. He knows better than me. And he's this big guy who knows everything about the podcast industry. And he's at this big company. So I gave my power away because I was like, this guy obviously knows what he's doing. And then the shift happened when my podcast started blowing up and it started doing really high numbers. The first thing he said to me was when you hit 100,000 downloads, get back to me and I'll try to start negotiating deals for you. And so within one, one week of releasing the podcast, it hit 100,000 downloads. And he was like, what the fuck? Because that's hard to do when you're really new to the game. And there's five million podcasts at the time. Yeah, without all the support of like a big network.

It was just me with a microphone. And obviously, I had a following. But it doesn't translate that way. You'll see some of the biggest celebrities they try to start podcasts. And it tanks because it's about the community. It's about being authentic. It's not about. Well, this is it.

Yeah. You know, like many people think love is the highest frequency. But actually, authenticity radiates above love. Oh, does it? Yeah. Like, science can measure it. And so when you are so authentic, which you are, you're like always in all ways super authentic that translates. And that's why you're able to do that. And by listening to somebody else's version of who you should be, it's impossible to reach those kind of numbers because people can tell if you're real or not. Yeah, it was just so weird because I think when you work with people who aren't authentic, it also, it could completely. destroy your path. If you want to live in your truth and you're with people who aren't living in their truth, it's just never going to work. The business can't be successful. That's just what I believe. But I truly have noticed that with myself, if I'm around people, even having guests on the podcast,

the reason why I don't. And now I'm just starting to is because I made a decision if it's going to be guests, it's going to be people I know and that are my friends because it's authentic, right? It's the same thing. Whereas if I'm forcing something or I'm forcing a relationship, it just, it can't manifest the way that I want because I don't feel like I'm living in my truth. That was kind of the first lesson in really just sticking to what I know because then I hit those numbers and he was like, oh, you have to get to 200,000 now. And I was like, but you said if I get 100,000, we could start discussing deals and he was like, no, 200,000.

And he kept raising the goal post. Then I hit 200,000 like a week later. By the end of the month, it was in the first. millions. I had like a million downloads already. And I was like, okay, so what's your excuse now? Are you going to get me a deal or not? What's going on? And then he gave me this like whole lecture on how it's not how it works and how the industry works. And I think what happened was he didn't think that I was going to do it. He overpromised and then didn't deliver. And I was like, this isn't the right fit. And then I left and he was just, it was just so unprofessional the way he handled everything. It was like,

I don't even care to speak about it. The whole point was that it was a huge lesson and just following my path and that was the shift where I was like I can't trust someone who's not going to deliver what they said they were going to deliver but when you when he was setting those numbers were you specifically manifesting those numbers were you like okay I've got to get to 100,000 and putting that into the either that that's what you wanted and then that was happening I'm a specific manifester so I think it motivated me I needed it I think so it was a gift it was a gift yeah I mean he himself treated me really horribly, but it was a gift in the sense of, I'll show you what I'm capable of. And then I

surpassed it so greatly that his main client, I surpassed her in numbers really fast. And I think he got like, yeah. Yeah. But you're, but like, I got under his skin a little bit. But I was like, that's who I am. I am competitive. If someone says you can't do something, I'm like, well, watch me do it now. It wasn't in spite of anything, but I think at the time I needed it, as the initial motivation. And also, I did believe him in the sense of I thought by that point I would get a deal and it would give me a new career because I was broke. I had no money when I started three years ago. When I left my relationship, I had nothing. My parents were giving me money, which that was the first time that ever happened to me in my life. I never asked them for a dollar.

And then, yeah, I was spoken about it on the podcast. But like, I was also back up against the wall financially. So I was like, okay, if I don't make this successful, this is what I'm passionate about. I need to make money from this, so I have to figure it out, you know? So, yeah, it was just a big lesson in that. I've got a big belief that when you have a real passion and it's like a need, like you're like a physical, like, I have to follow this path. I think you can only be successful in it. I don't think it's possible to really be on your path and not be super abundant.

A hundred percent because it's your sole mission. I think I was born to do what I'm doing. I always wanted to use my voice and I always wanted to speak my truth. And there have been different times in my life where people have come into my life and held me back from my soul mission because they just weren't in alignment with who I'm supposed to be. It kind of steers you off course. And I don't know if you've had these experience. I mean, I'm sure you've been through relationships that have steered you off your path a little bit because it just it teaches us a lesson at the end of the day. But I feel like for the most part, I don't know.

Correct me if I'm wrong because I know people are going to want to know the relationships. relationship stuff. Do you feel like you've always made decisions that were good for you in terms of who you dated or who you were with? Or did you ever feel like you were dating someone and it kind of divorced and remarried? So I probably, but you know, so when I was really young, I had a very quick engagement. I had like this crazy story, this, you know, this guy I met. We had so many different things in alignment and we got engaged very quickly. And he was having an affair. I think I found out multiple affairs later. Oh, wow.

But at the time, it was kind of, you know, like one of my best friends told me, and of course it's like a punch in the gut. But I have always felt worthy of a loving, genuine, real relationship. I could have stayed, and people do for many different reasons. So there's no judgment on that. But for me, I knew instantly you're not my person. And there was no excuse in the world that was going to make me understand why he thought that was acceptable or if he was sorry or not

I was never I literally found out I remember him saying just hit me I was like I'm not going to hit you what's what's wrong with you I took my engagement ring off I threw it in the pool I went and took all of his to me luggage out of the garage I packed up my

stuff and that was it and I had given away some of my power I was working as a stylist and a buyer but I was spending everything I was making because I didn't have to pay for any bills or anything. And that, I think, gives away your power. I had to then, like, completely start over again and go from living this big, beautiful

house to this, like, little studio apartment, but I didn't care. I've always been like, I know. Hold on. We have to backtrack a little bit because people are going to be maybe a little bit, like, what are you talking about? I think you've always attracted maybe successful people, at least from what you're saying. He basically was taking care of everything. So at that time, you were just like, I'm going to sit back and chill.

Well, it was working, but I was a buyer and a stylist. And so as a buyer, I was traveling to Paris and New York and going to all the trade shows. And I was like, three for the store, one for me. So everything I was making, I was spending, basically. Yeah. Which I learned in retrospect never to do that again and make sure I'm also saving. And I was young, so it was an easy transition. And also, for me, there's no.

amount of ease or luxury that is worth being in an unhappy relationship or being treated in a way that I don't believe I deserve. And so, you know, we touched on my childhood. I was so lucky. I always felt loved and cared for and I was always taught to value myself and my worth and not to give myself away to anyone that doesn't deserve that. Yeah, you seem like you're really good at protecting your energy in general. Even when I met you, I felt like you're just the type of person. You could tell that you know your worth and you have boundaries with anyone. And I think that's such a gift too, because it'll guide you always to the right people or it'll attract the right situations in your life. It's like a filter almost because you're not just going to allow anyone to come in and

just like have a chat. No. No. No, I think it's important. And I think we can all make that decision. I was just thinking about, we went to Spain together and you just would disappear because they're just weirdos, I don't know, just funny. Like, there's just people that will approach. And you're like, no, like, I'm good. I've got to go outside. It is important. It's very important.

Yeah, I agree. Yeah. So I had a engagement that never materialized into a marriage, thankfully. And then I dated like a couple of people in between maybe. And then I met my ex-husband when he was in Miami. And we had a really great connection instantly. And he was living in London. I'd studied in London.

And we ended up dating and getting married, like 90-day fiancé style. Oh, did you? I mean, it wasn't really because I was in the U.K. But eventually, when you want to get a fiancé visa, you have 90 days to get married. I think it's 90 years. And we had two beautiful boys and built like a nice life. But he wasn't my person. You know, he's a really, really good.

man and he's a good dad which I'm so grateful for. We were able to sit down across from each other at the dining room table and we did our divorce. Like we literally used divorceonline.com, I think. So we didn't fight over anything and it was just for both of us, it was really important just that we were able to co-parent and the boys together really well, which we've been able to do, I think, pretty successfully, which is lovely. I've got a funny story about that though. I don't know if I should tell it. It's up to you. We could cut it.

You could tell it and then if you say to me, we are not posting this. Okay. So as I said, we did divorceonline.com. And when you get divorced, you get a decree nice eye and a decree absolute. So the first one is like the courts have received your paperwork and you have like a six-month cooling down period, I think. And then you get your decree absolute. I received the decree absolute. At this point, I'm now dating my.

now husband because it was like a long gap in between from when we were getting divorced to when it was finalized and for mey london we have these hot pink bubble envelopes that we ship everything in and we were laughing because I'm putting this decree absolute in these hot pink bubble wrap thing envelope and I was like I guarantee you the like divorced apart like the courts have never received a hot pink envelope so I send it all in blah blah blah fast forward like a year and a half two years and Matt and I are getting married. And we have to go to the council to register our marriage. And so we go in, we sit down and they're like, oh, you need your decree absolute. I pull it out. They're like, that's not it. That's your decree nice eye. And I'd moved house and I was like, well, I don't know

where it is. So I contact the courts. Bearing in mind, we're getting married in Chelsea and Westminster town hall before our wedding in the Maldives in 10 days or something. We're buying a house. My family's flying over, blah, blah, blah. Courthouse is like, sorry, we have no record. of you're divorced. And I was like, huh? What? What do you mean? And they're like, yeah, you're not, you're not divorced. And I was like, I actually don't think even my ex-husband knows this story. He was already living in Dubai. So, like, obviously, I was in tears. Matt comes in. He's like, what's wrong? I was like, I'm an adulterer. I'm getting married. I thought I was divorced. I'm not divorced. What has happened here? Anyway, I had to go through all these things. And luckily

I had a friendly judge. I had to sign things saying that. I hadn't had any more children with my ex-husband. We hadn't had, like, any contact to get, like, did-da. And they find very kindly granted my divorce with, like, a day and a half to spare. Before you were getting married. Because you have to, right? Yeah, you have, of course you're, otherwise you're polygamist. Like, you're not.

They wouldn't let you do it. But how would anyone actually know? Because you have to show the paperwork. Otherwise, they won't grant you a new one. That's pretty crazy. It was really, it was really, it was really tremendous. You know, those things in life that are like, at the time it was horrendous because I felt so bad. I felt like how one could I be so, like, use a lawyer maybe, don't take my advice and do it yourself.

Now we have, yeah, but we did it. Wow. That's a crazy story. So the day before your wedding, you were still technically married. It was like maybe one or two, but yeah, it was really, I was really stressed. And how did Matt? To be honest, he's, you know, he's my best friend. he's amazing and he likes to tease me about it every once in a while and he when I um when I get

overwhelmed or stressed he's always like my rocking and can kind of hold me and let me feel safe and calm down and I hope I do the same for him but he was really he's always amazing whenever I'm really stressed he's great wow okay so then let's transition into the next part of your life how did I just want to know how you met your current husband but you were divorced and then what happened after that? So skipping back a little bit, and this is something, you know, anyone that's in a position in their relationship where they're not feeling fully loved, I was raised Catholic and my parents are still married and I really believe in the sanctity of marriage and I really believe that you should never enter into it, you know, unless you have full intention of really committing. And there's definitely highs and lows and ups and downs. And so often, especially the older I get, the more friends I have who've been married for a long time.

And you can see they can be like a deep low and then things can be incredible again. And I believe that it's worth fighting for your marriage. However, in my case, the way that I needed to be loved was not matched. And my ex-husband used to always say to me, if you don't like it, you know what to do. Kind of ingest, like not like in a horrible way, but it was said all the time. And one day he said it. And I remember the moment, you know, Oprah always talks about an aha moment. He said it and I was like, aha, I do know what to do.

And it was so clear and I was like, I'm going to be fine. It started my own business, which gave me the confidence that I would no matter what happened ever. I could take care of myself and my kids. And that was it. I made the decision. It was very easy. I didn't need to seek counsel with all my friends. A lot of it I will hold close to my heart until I know what my decision is.

And so we had the discussion and we ended up good. and divorced and then I would say like seven months later or so I met my husband and I was planning on having like a few years of at least oh I wasn't planning on anything I didn't think I would even necessarily get married again and so how how Matt and I met I was actually with my girlfriend last night that introduced us in the place talking about synchronicities so I was with some girlfriends in Zuma which is a sushi restaurant here in London it's one of my favorites that's where we were With Zuma's brought up a lot recently. Good food. They're all over.

And there was a girl sat at the sushi bar on her Kindle by herself. And we ended up talking to her and her friend hadn't come and she wanted to have sushi. So she came by herself. She ended up joining our group. We ended up becoming really good friends. And it was through her one night when I was having dinner at Sexy Fish in London, another sushi restaurant. My husband was there and he knew everyone at the table. So after dinner, he came over to speak to us all.

And yeah, we have like some drinks together and exchange phone numbers. And he was very persistent. He kept ringing me. And I was like, don't people just text now? I don't know. I've been married for a long time. But he kept calling. And we built like a friendship.

And then probably like four or five months later, we had our first date. Like I said, we were already friends. But halfway through dinner, it was like I was hit by a lightning bowl and fell in love. And that was it. It was like from that moment, I like knew that he was. my person. He saved in my phone still as Merlin, like the magician. It was like he put a spell on me.

Wow. And that was it. That's so amazing, too. Did you know right away when you saw him that it would be something? Or were you just not in that headspace at all? Because you had just been divorced. No, I was not in that headspace. But he, like, he's cute and he was cheeky and I like the, you know, the English, British banter. But, no, I didn't. I wasn't looking for, I like, like,

two little kids. I was not looking for love yet, I don't think. But that's always when it happens because you're just in an open space of kind of like doing your own thing and also focusing on yourself and then you become that magnetic force and people will just find you. Like you didn't really have to do anything. And I think that's something I talk about a lot on the podcast. So many people will message me, including people who are going through a divorce, who have

been through divorce and they're like, am I ever going to find anyone ever again? I'm on all the apps or they'll just be in this mode of like, I need someone right now. I need someone right now. And I'm like, well, you're going to block it if you keep saying that because you're communicating energetically that you're lacking something, that you don't have it. And I think a big thing in manifestation, I think you're really powerful at manifesting is just not even really putting any emphasis on it. Yeah, I agree with that.

Well, I'll put it out there and then I'll leave it. And sometimes there's certain things you really, really want. So you're like, I put it out there, but I'll revisit it again. I think that there's nothing more attractive in opposite sex from someone who's just like fully in their power. You know, when someone isn't, if you don't chase, you attract, like to just be. And I agree. I miss the whole dating out thing. When I was single again, I didn't end up going on any. But I think nothing changes, if nothing changes. So my advice for my girlfriends is like if you're doing the same thing all the time and you're expecting to just like manifest the love of your life,

try something new, try a new sport. Everyone's playing paddle now. It's such a great, like, co-ed thing to do. You do have to put yourself out there. I think if you're like, wake up, go to work, come straight home, your chance of meeting someone is less than if you're putting yourself out there, like energetically, you know, like being open and having an open heart and being open maybe to speaking to someone that on first glance isn't the love of your life. But after you speak to, you know, people can become, the hottest person in the world can become quite ugly when you get to see a side of them that isn't nice. Yeah.

And vice versa. That just happened to me. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Where, yeah, some people can grow on you if you're open to it and also have an open heart. I think that's really important point, the open heart thing.

Because even though you say, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready. if you're actually chasing something down, you're not living fully with an open heart because if you're living with an open heart, you're just trusting, you know, and that's a big thing for me is I'm learning this now because when I got out of my last relationship, I was really broken and I had been in so many relationships

and been so codependent and always felt like I needed this guy to complete me. And I feel like I, after that relationship, completely closed myself off because I just wasn't in the headspace and I wasn't ready. And now I'm just starting to know what it's like to live with an open heart fully without a man, without anything else. It's just me. And so many beautiful things have happened to me that are unrelated to dating that have fulfilled me so much more than just jumping into a relationship.

And this is the first time in my life I'm actually experiencing that directly where like I'm meeting incredible women. I'm building friendships. I wouldn't have had otherwise if I had been with someone or I, been in that relationship. I've moved to a different city, which is also such a big decision because I've wanted to do this for four years. City and country. I'm living in your apartment, which the craziest story.

So guys, I'm going to tell you the most insane thing ever. This is crazy. I very short version, but basically I'd been looking for an apartment and I've recorded an episode about this where I was like, guys, I'm apartment hunting. I think it was like last episode. I was like, I'm still looking. I'm living in a hotel. last two months I've just been so stressed and looking literally everywhere, but nothing felt good

at all. And I had been scammed in April. I rented a place that was just like really run down and weird. And I was like, I can't risk the haunted house. Yeah, I was living in a haunted house, which whatever. That was a whole other, that's a whole other episode. But I was living in a haunted house with legitimate ghosts that were sleeping next to me. So I was like really kind of put off by London in a way. Like I knew I was going to live here, but I was just like, I need to make sure if I live here, I find the right place. And then I was on Airbnb while we were in Spain looking for an apartment. We were literally together in Spain. The day, I guess after you left, this apartment just magically quantum appeared on the app. And I was like, oh, this place is so nice. And then I showed a friend Isabel. And I was like, oh, my God, this is so nice. Maybe I'll just book it for the month. And then I was about to book it. But then I scroll down and I saw your name. And I was like, wait, is this your house? And I didn't know you're renting out a house. But yeah, your family runs an Airbnb company.

Yeah, my stepson has an Airbnb company. So you saw our last name, Kenton pop up. But I didn't know. I had no idea that it was your family's house. And I sent it to you, like, oh, yeah, this is my first apartment. This is my apartment. I was like, okay, so now I'm living in your house. Yeah, which is, I mean, if you, I knew your house hunting.

What are the chance? And I just didn't think, I don't know. Like I recommended Josh. I said speak to him. He was amazing. But I didn't think to recommend. I don't know. I didn't think about it. And then when you sent me the picture, I was like, oh, that's cute. I was like, oh, that's mine. It's just, it's really, really amazing. Yeah. Because I'm like, or are you going home now? And you're like, yeah, to your house. It's your house. It's your house now. Yeah. You're like, oh, if you go out the back door, you'll see all these amazing shops. And I was like, wow, this is so weird. But also, it's just, it makes so much sense because everything comes through my network, according to my human design, too. I never. I never. tapped into that because I didn't know what, first of all, I didn't know what human design was. I also just didn't know that that's how I operated. But it makes so much sense because every time I've booked something that I wasn't familiar with or just some random stranger, I had the worst luck. And then when I would get a reference from someone I knew, it was always in alignment and

always made sense. And then when I saw your name, I almost always like, what the fuck? That's actually, yeah, it was one of the craziest things. You say that, except for we could spend 10 hours talking about the crazy. things happening like over the last I know you know a couple weeks that's why we need a reality show because I know but we knew yes I'll watch it it's just so many synchronistic amazing fourth dimensional things that have happened where nothing is a coincidence it's just all happening for you in the best way and I feel like the more you do energy work on yourself

and we could touch on kundalini and that's basically how we met anyway but I've never notice the more I've worked on myself and cleared out anything that was holding me back and really just trusted and started to love myself, all of these magical things start happening to you. Amazing. And you can't stop it. And I feel like life has become a magical video game where I'm just walking through and I'm like, oh, I command this and it happens. Or I need this apartment and like it's your apartment and it's just like things like that where I'm like, it's all part of the plan, but you have to also heal in order to be that much in alignment. Because a lot of people, when you are going through things that are maybe a little bit traumatic or hard, it could create

these like energy blockages temporarily. And it's easily fixable. But it's, and I think that's the thing to remember is the trauma and these things that happen is real. But you also are so powerful that you can unblock them and heal them and you can turn your pain into power. And I think see so many people, especially within the healing space, they found a modality that help them heal and it's so incredible that they want to share it with so many other people. It's exciting that every day is a new opportunity for you to become like the best version of yourself. And we all slip backwards and it's forwards and it's a constant like push and pull. But it's really, really exciting, I think that every day is a new day. And when you notice these synchronicities,

Like really pause for a second because I think like for you and I now we've done a lot of this work and you see them all the time and we're all like this is crazy. But I think everyone has these throughout their day and just pause and go, that's cool. Thank you. I get it. I see it. And start listening and paying attention that so many times when something bad happens to us, I always say things happen for you, not to you. For example, yesterday my hotel lost a whole suitcase of mine. And I was like, okay, I'm going to stay calm and I'm going to wait and I'm going to wait.

And of course, they found it. They gave it to somebody who was in somebody else's room. But because of that, they let me have my room instead of checking out this morning before I arrived here, I can go back and shower and change before my flight tonight. So although that was like a bit of an inconvenience, it was actually for me. It was for you to make your life easier today. Yeah. Yeah. Which is cool because it happens all day.

You just have to look for it. Yeah. If something that seems like an inconvenience happens to you, it might just be a really big blessing because it might be aligning you towards something that's really good. It's happened to me so many times for sure where I just feel like maybe if I'm having a really off day and I don't feel well and I'm stressed and something's not going according to plan or everything's not going according to plan. When I start telling myself in those moments, this is happening for a reason and tomorrow something amazing is going to happen. It's going to make sense why all of this happened. It always happens. My day always flips and I shift into an entirely new reality where it all makes sense after, you know.

So. Yeah. It happens a lot. And I think especially as an entrepreneur, I can tell you like a thousand stories of my worst days that turned. Like once there was a warehouse fire. I once had a whole shipping container full of jewelry. End up in India, not London. And I received a shipping container full of car parts.

And they would not release my jewelry. from India and I didn't want to store the car part. So I, like, released it right away because otherwise I'm paying a fortune for storage. So I sent it back and they would not release my jewelry. And I had like deadlines, you know, where at the time we were like in sex. Did this person want your jewelry? Well, no, they just wanted me to pay tons. They were holding it hostage for like to pay all the taxes in India.

But even when we agreed to pay some of it, that was a nightmare. I had a fire that luckily everything was okay. From that I learned I need to ensure everything always. I was so blessed that my stuff was fine. But at the time our boxes, our Mimi Landon boxes, had denim, like denim on the outside of the box. And I was like, even if it's not on fire, the smoke is going to be sucked into the denim. I've just, I've been so, so lucky. But there's so many, you know, recently in the U.S., all the tariff charges and I had like a shipping container full of jewelry going there.

And I was like, is it going to be 50%? Is it what's happening? I don't know what's happening. But all of these things, I opened a, I had a pop-up store for Celestear and Bista Village. and I was so excited to be, you know, there's like Dior and Gucci and all my favorite brands there. And we did a beautiful fit out. And it was probably a bit of an ego project. I felt so lucky that I was invited to be there.

I didn't really read the small print. Read the small print. It was one of the most expensive learning lessons of my life. What happened? Well, it just, it ended up costing like 30 grand a month to be there and it was supposed to be like free essentially. I don't know what happened. The fit out was a fortune. And you signed the papers.

Everything. I didn't know. I was in LA doing a brand like a collaboration launch we did with my friend Beau. And I obviously with the time difference, I had like 100 missed calls when I woke up all ready for my launch day. And they were like, the store's not open. You're fine 10,000 pounds. And I was like, someone didn't show up for work and they find me. I've had so many crazy things happen. But because I had the brick and mortar, I was able to open Stacton Bowie. And I learned all these lessons. And although I had to do. go through that pain point, it prepared me for where I'm at now, and now we have our second store and we're going to open two more this year. And I wouldn't, without that experience, I wouldn't have been brave enough or crazy or stupid enough to try again. That's amazing. By the way, guys, she has an amazing, amazing jewelry store in Bali, and you should all go visit it if you're in Bali. There's a lot of people traveling to Bali now. Come back charms with us. Yeah. Stack by Celeste. It's, yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing what you're doing. And also, just the fact that you have

so much on your plate, but you still seem so grounded all of the time and you seem so, I mean, maybe you don't always feel that way, but you seem very put together and very organized and you just managed to do everything. And that's, that's really inspiring. I've worked towards being really grounded. And for me, a huge part of it is gratitude. Like, I really do, not every day do I meditate for 30 minutes, but every single day before I open my eyes, I say a prayer and I give gratitude. You asked me earlier if I've always been spiritual. I was really lucky to be raised in like an amazing Catholic family. So I had spiritual practices instilled in me my whole life.

Although it's not a faith I fully resonate with now, my connection to God has always been there because of that. And I think really, really being grateful for all of the small things along our journey, it makes you grounded. For sure. And taking that time to reflect and see how far you've come versus like, oh, I need to do a million things today. It's like, look at everything you've built and created. That's something I know.

I think that's harder though. Do you stop all the time? Like, I know, but like, you're like, no, I don't do that. No, I do. I do. Like, I'm talking about like, I'm grateful for my health. I'm grateful for, you know, like this life that I built. But often I forget, I think all of us do, like, to celebrate all the wins.

Oh, for sure. moment when it happens and then you're like especially as an entrepreneur I'm on to the next problem usually and sometimes it takes a minute we look back and you go wow actually yeah I've done a lot I think also okay we need to talk about this thank you for reminding me because this is such a big thing I admire and you your ability to not really think too much about the past because obviously of course you have to be grateful for everything you've built but it kind of does tie into your mindset what you just said I just look forward because I don't have a choice I have to like keep going and running. That's a huge thing in manifesting too. I think when you master looking forward

and when you master focusing on the future, what you want in your future, instead of absorbing yourself with the past, I want to ask you, do you think a lot of it attributes to the fact that you're always looking ahead? You asked me this last week and it's not something that I'd put a lot of thought into, but 100% I don't look into the past. Yeah. I don't want to live in past problems. I always want to either be in the now or a couple steps ahead, but I 100% never look back. Of course, like, we all remember stories from the past or talk about different things on occasion, but I do not live in victimhood, in fear, in, like, something that happened to me is not who I am. You can't change the past.

So dwelling on it or trying, I think, especially as women a lot of times, will overanalyze everything, especially with dating or with men, they'll, like, try to understand. you can't understand what's in somebody else's head. It's, you can spend 20 hours, 100 hours, saying, do you think he meant this or did he do? And it's a waste of your energy instead of going, okay, this didn't work. This is behind me. Spend those hours, like how to elevate yourself. Yeah.

Right? For sure. And that's something that in the beginning when you're going through something really difficult, like a really bad breakup or you lost someone and you're grieving them, whatever it is. In the moment, that could be really hard because in the moment it's pain. Of course. But the point is, and I think this is such a good point to me, because I've realized it with myself now just learning how to rewire my brain to only look ahead. And this is something my dad has always taught me to because he's this type of person. He's been through a lot in his life, especially with losing businesses. We're almost going bankrupt and just having so many things happen to him. I always ask him, how do you, like at your age keep going? And he always says the same thing. He's like, I never dwell in the past. I literally just wake up and do what I got to do. And that's it. And that's it. And that's it. And that's it. And that's it. And that's. And that's it. And that's it. And And that's how you have to live your life. Otherwise, you're going to be miserable. And I think that's such solid advice.

And there's not a lot of people who have told me that advice, but I noticed it just in the way that you operate. And that's why I asked you because I was like, I don't think she wakes up every day and thinks about what happened to her five years ago. Like, that's weird to you. I can't remember what happened yesterday. I was like, where do we go? But that's like a blessing in so many ways. I mean, obviously we all have certain gifts and superpowers. And sometimes like our friend Isabel, she remembers everything to a T and she's a computer.

And that's incredible in itself. But there are a lot of people who will store trauma from 20 years ago and not be able to move forward or they'll never want to get into a relationship again because they have this fear holding them back or blocking them. And I think it's just an important message just to, you know, tell people, if you want to manifest a totally different life, if you want to rewrite your story, you can. You can. But you cannot go back to the past. No. That's what's blocking you and holding you back from manifesting. During the year, I was on and off with my ex. I couldn't manifest properly because I was always thinking about how he hurt me, how he betrayed me, how he did this to me. And I spoke a lot about it. And what was happening was it was creating more of it. Yeah. The power of the word, right? So everything that I was going through, and I didn't know this at the time, how powerful your words are. It was like four years ago. I would just start replaying everything he did, everything he said, and getting myself in. to this mindset of like, why isn't this happening for me? It was because I was always immersing myself in the past. If you want to change your life, if you actually want to make a difference

and like change your life. You can. It's like quantum. You really, really can. And my kids always tease me because I always say your words or your wand. They always mimic me for it. But it's true. And especially in Bali, you know how powerful the energy of the island is. If you say something, it happens right away, the good or the bad. So you have to really be careful. and think about when you're going out with your girlfriends and you're sitting around the table, do you want to talk about the pain in the past, or do you want to talk about the future and all the exciting things you want to bring into your life? It's your choice.

And retraining how you think and how you speak to yourself, you can wake up and decide that you want to anchor in this new version of yourself, and you will become it. And the way that the energy of the planet is now, things are happening in hyperspeat. This doesn't have to be a 10-year journey. This can be like a day, a week, a month, and everything can shift. To me, that is like the most exciting thing. There's nothing better. Whatever you want to create for yourself, you really can.

Yeah. It's just about deciding, as you always say. I think yesterday when I was like, yeah, how do you feel worthy of your relationship and your dreams? And you're just like, I just decide. End of the episode. Done. It's done. There's nothing left to say.

You just decide. But there is some truth to that. because it is a decision at the end of the day to know what you're worthy of and know what you will and will not tolerate. Because I maybe program myself that way. Oh, I only deserve this one. And I capped myself at how much I deserve out of a relationship. That was a huge wake-up call for me, just knowing that wait, there's a different reality where someone is being whined and dined and adored by their husband and they're in love. And they have the family and they have everything they've ever wanted.

And I'm sitting here wondering if I should split the bill. No. You should not split the bill. Country bumpkin. Like a rinky dink. Like a rinky dink, a country bumpkin. I know now, obviously, that I can command that. But it almost seemed too big for me a few years ago because I didn't even know that timeline really could exist because I didn't have those examples around me.

The beauty of being around people like you, just people in our space now. I'm like, wow, it is possible. Those timelines do exist. It's just a matter of knowing they exist. And then once you know they exist, it shifts your thinking. It shifts your energy. I will never tolerate what I used to tolerate again. But you kind of have to hear it first from someone or see it.

Because, you know, if you only grow up one way and you only see things one way, you don't know anything else. Do you know what I mean? Like when I grew up, I met this girl and she had a Louis Vuitton suitcase. And I was like, that is the ugliest thing I've ever seen. Why would anyone have like a browns? I didn't know what it was. I was like, that's so ugly. Why doesn't she have like a normal black suitcase?

And she's like, it's Louis Vuitton. Like, what is that? You know? But you don't know what you don't know, right? Exactly. And it's not, I don't think it's just about like commanding something. You have to feel worthy of it. So your example you said with love or money, some people have one area worked out.

You know, you're like, I am worthy of being really successful in my career. And I can create the leads or the contacts and grow this multi-million dollar business. but they tell themselves this story, I'm unlucky in love. I'm unlucky in love. I can make so much money here, but I can't find love. And there's something there that's missing in the worthy part. So this is where the work comes in, where you have to figure out what am I lacking and why and identify it and then decide to change that. Because if you don't feel worthy of, you know, whatever, having a multimillion dollar business or find in the love of your life,

your life or traveling the world, then it will not manifest. It has to be something that you believe that you are worthy of and then it will come for you. It is for you, but you have to change your mindset and decide you're worthy of it. Because it's for all of us. We all are here to have an incredible human experience, I believe, and we're all worthy of it, but we have told ourselves these different stories or had different life experiences that have put caps on things. And even when I'm manifesting, which I never used to call it that, it was just being, like, it's just how I move through the world. It's always that or more. You know, we're not only are we going to be able to get a table at a fully book restaurant, but it's going to be the best table or more.

Like everything is, I mean, that's a stupid example, but it's always, don't cap yourself. God wants you to have it all. Yeah. I'm such a big believer in that. Just always saying or more and adding to it. Sometimes you think you're asking for the best. and you don't even know there's something even better than that. Sometimes I don't even know that there is a better option,

but if there is, I want God to give that to me. And that's important to set that intention too. Talking about the checklist, we also spoke about this. I believe if you are going to make a checklist of what you want in a partner, you need to match that checklist. A thousand percent. So if you're writing 100 things on there and you're only 20 of them, you're not ready to meet that person.

It's not a vibrational match. Yeah. It's not a vibrational match. That's a huge thing. thing too. And to be honest, I think this is also why I essentially haven't met my person just in this very moment yet, because I wasn't a vibrational match to what I really want or what I know I'm worthy of. I was always sacrificing little pieces of myself to accommodate and like kind of lower myself to make the other person be on my level. I didn't feel worthy of someone who could

actually get to my level. So every relationship I've had, I'd be like, well, I didn't really like that but maybe I could get over it or oh they didn't you know they're not treating me this well but maybe they'll change and I always made these little sacrifices which a lot of people that don't understand the concept of worth or like knowing their worth do because you think it's you just understanding people because I'm super empathetic and I thought I was doing a service like a good thing by kind of accommodating you were doing a service but stop doing that like you're welcome you've done you're I have done my service. And listen, like, I always say this too.

All of those services turned into the biggest blessing. I had so many stories to tell and turned into my career. Yeah. I wouldn't have any of those experiences. Like, I wouldn't have my podcast if I didn't have any of those experiences. Yeah. And I think it was all part of the divine plan. And now the plan is we're never doing that again.

Of course. But it does come down to worthiness because I remember, even though I'd say, oh, I want this. I want that. I want this. I at my core had a wound of not feeling like I was capable of actually having someone who treated me amazing and checked off everything on my list of things that I wanted. And also a lot of people do say, oh, you know, I try to manifest. But my family, they think I'm too unrealistic and I live with them and they're in my space all the time.

And they're telling me like, that's not possible. And I had this experience. I love my parents to death. But even when I've said, you know, I want this in a person. and they're like, your standards are too high. You know? It's that narrative a lot. They're like, you're too picky.

And I've just completely canceled it out because I'm like, no, if I'm a match for it, actually, my standards are, they're perfectly set where they are. Because if I'm offering all this, if I'm bringing all this to the table, why shouldn't I get the same in return? Yeah, absolutely should. You know? And then they be like, oh. Yeah, of course.

And I think when the time is right, I'll 100% find that person. I'm still building myself. I still feel like I'm in the process of building who I am and really enjoying that whole phase of my life. And I just feel like my life just, it's just started because I just literally moved two days ago. I think it's, you know, I am married and I was reminding new girls the other day. I have five kids. Like, I have three step kids for, you know, four them live with us. Like on top of everything you do. I think often before girls are married, everybody like wants to get married. And being married is such a beautiful, sacred, amazing thing. But there's also some beauty in this time you have with your girlfriends. And when you get to

be so selfish and build and learn new things and you have all the time to really focus on building yourself so that you can be the best, you know, wife if that's what you want to be or the best mother if that's what you want to be. And I think enjoy it. Pause a little bit in the now and really have fun soaking that out because I had so much fun being on this like girls. weekend, you know, and getting to to just focus on waking up when I want to wake up and not, you know, taking care of all my family, which I love doing. But it was a nice break to have and for you girls to celebrate that whilst you have it, because it won't be forever. Yeah. That's also so important to actually embrace where you're at now and not rush it and not

put like, oh, I need to get married by this date and whatever. And I think because we see so much online and we're consuming so much and everyone's in their own phase of life, it can get easy to compare or say, oh my gosh, is it weird that I'm, you know, 35, 36 and this hasn't happened for me yet, whatever it is. And when you said that, it really was very comforting in a way because I realize that you're right in the sense of you have to just enjoy where you're at because that time will come. But in the meantime, why are you trying to rush it and not live in the present? It's a big thing about just being present and observing what you have now. I know when I am married, and I have a family and all these things, I'm going to miss those moments, you know.

Obviously, it's such a beautiful chapter to have a family, have kids, all that stuff. But I think a lot of people rush that, like they rush the timeline. And then maybe making not the best decision for a partner just because they want that life, because they think it's going to be best for them. But then they realize, oh, I was chasing the feeling or the concept of it versus. Well, it's fear-based a lot of it, too. Which is understandable because everybody wants to find love. I've quite a few girlfriends that are in their late 30s or even early 40s that haven't found their person yet, but they're going to.

And now it's going to be their perfect match because they have built themselves into the best version of themselves. And let's face it, women evolve more than men normally. So, you know, they don't. They're like we're at a faster pace for sure. At a faster pace. Yeah. So when they now meet their partner, it'll be someone that they spend the rest of their life with. making this incredible beautiful life and they come into the relationship fully whole.

Yeah. You know, because part of it in my first marriage, I was so young, I changed so much. It's important to sometimes pause and grow and fully become who you're meant to be before you find your life partner, unless you're lucky enough to find one that will evolve with you. Yeah. That's a huge thing. I think that's probably number one on my, I don't even really have a list, but priorities for me in a partner is someone who's willing to evolve because I'm evolving every two seconds.

We're changing and shapeshifting every five minutes. I'm like, who's going to keep up with me? It has to be someone who's able to understand that and accept that and embrace me in every phase of my life because I'm moving so fast. And I'm sure you're the same exact way where it's like you're not the same person you were even yesterday. You know what I mean? I'm so lucky that my husband fully supports me being like nuts, basically.

Every time I'm like, I have a new idea for a business. He's like, okay. You know, or when I'm like, I'm going to it. sacred mystery school on an island in the middle of Indonesia. He's like, have fun. You know, I found the right person for me that sees me and lets me continue to grow and change. You can be yourself and fully yourself and authentically yourself. You have the space to do that. Whereas, you know, if you just went to some witch sacred mystery school, there might have been someone else and be like, what the fuck are you doing? You're nuts. Yeah. Well, I think they all thought I'm nuts. It made me like a

witch camp care package. By the way, it wasn't a witch camp. It's like a really amazing, like, I feel like you have to kind of explain this a little bit because people are going to be very confused. What did you do? It was like a spiritual retreat. Okay. Yeah. That's like a more easy way to understand it. But my family started calling it witch camp because I like to make fun of me because I love my crystals and my sage. But, um, no, it was this, it was really, really incredible. I had these two amazing teachers, Astra Michaela. It's been their like lifelong work studying in to all the sacred mysteries. And I was able to go and spend an amazing week with some really amazing people and just dive

deeper into who I am. And again, taking that space for yourself to grow and anchor in your true knowing. I think we all know if you pause and you dive deep, you know why you're here. You know what your mission is. Sometimes we're too scared to admit it because it seems so big. But we all have these missions. And in a smaller big way, you're touching people's lives. around you. So I really enjoy getting to dive deeper into that. And that's why I'm here today.

I've been so scared to use my voice. And I've been asked to do so many podcasts. And I always am like, I know, I know. I don't want to push it. But you just have so much wisdom. And I'm like, you need to share this with people. You need to speak your truth. Because yeah, now more than ever, people are absorbing a lot of podcasts. And it's so important to have your voice heard because you're so unique. You're so special. And you have so much going for you and so many people are going to be so inspired about your brands, jewelry and then also Luna Raqa and everything that you're creating now. Is there any specific ways you think of these ideas or inspiration or they'll just come in a download? How did you even decide to get into jewelry and now you're pivoting into beauty?

Do you just get these downloads? Is it spiritual? Is it inspired by other things? So maybe London, which is my longest standing business. I think all the stars kind of aligned. I launched it with my friend Alex. And then as that continued to grow and grow, my side path was diving deeper and deeper into my spirituality. And I wanted to create joy that I could lean even more into like pieces that help with manifestation and incorporating amazing crystals that I know have incredible healing properties.

I'm really big on I am manifestations. I have this piece of paper still from when I was 13 where I made. a list of everything I am or would wish to become. It's something I do with my kids every morning. So we play the I am game and the grateful game. And I say three things are grateful for. And three things, you know, I am healthy. I am wise. Like I'm an A plus student. I am a star athlete. Whatever it comes through for them on that day. And it's always something that you are, that you know to be true. And then something bigger than what you know to be true that you wish to become. So within my Sless Star jewelry, I've added lots of IAM manifestations into things and

lucky symbols and talismans that are inspired from my travels around the world. And I've had so much fun building and growing. But there was a little bit of me that was ready for something new. And I don't know. I guess it was a download like with the face rollers. It was yeah, instant and quick. Although I probably could have launched six months before I did. I really wanted to make it perfect because the product is so cool. And I think it's exciting to create something you know that every woman is going to want because it's going to solve so many issues with lymphatic drainage, making your face really snatch, taking the oil off your face instantly. I probably need one now. And now having to layer on makeup to let your true self shine. And with Luna Rocka, which means moon rock,

it's 100%. It's just a lava rock. It's just, you know, it's like straight from a volcano. It's like straight from an ancient volcano in a ball and you rub it on your face and it takes all the oil off. And it's really... How did you think of volcano rock? Is there... The science behind it? Yeah. And there's all these amazing trace minerals that come off of it. This product exists.

It's something that exists in Asia. Millions of women use it, but it doesn't really exist as much in the U.S. and the U.K. I've never heard of it. And I wanted to make it like a packaging cooler. It's all made from recycled materials, which is super important to me. But it just works. And it's so cool. You pull it out of your bag, you rub it on your face and all your oil is gone without having to cake on a bunch of stuff.

And, you know, there's a brand I won't mention that's gone, like really viral. with a lot of young girls and there's all these retinels and stuff in it and when you have really young skin you shouldn't be putting that on it and it's not good for you

and so I wanted to come up with something that worked for all ages I don't even use retinal because it like hurts and if you put it on and then you have sun exposure it damages your skin anyway

yeah I guess I downloaded it it was like this has to happen and how quickly can I make it happen and it's fun to talk about something that you really believe in

and so I'm really I'm really enjoying this journey with a new one, except for now I'm going to have a whole new. I can't wait to use it. I need another 20 hours in the day. You do so much, but you are a magician. It seems like you have so much time. What time do you wake up? What time do you wake up?

I'm like, wait, I'm trying to process this. Okay, you have three businesses. You have a family. You're always traveling. You have a million meetings. What time? Yeah, like what's your... 5 a.m.

But that isn't for everyone. I think it depends. Like, some people are night people. I sleep about five or six hours normally. Okay. But I think meditation helps with like extra sleep points. But yeah, I wake up at five. For me, that's like the magic hour before the sun, where we are in Bali. The sun doesn't come up until six. So I have that just before sunrise. There's no one awake. It's when I can do my daily practices. If I'm journaling or meditating, I've got, you know, someone that comes to the house and I'll do yoga or guided meditation sometimes. And then I'm winning. Like the day starts. I don't look at my phone in the morning. I love that. I wake my kids up and then I get them all ready for school and then I'll check my phone. Nothing good comes from checking your phone first thing in the morning.

Yeah. So I give myself that space and that really sets me up for the day. And I think I can get so much done before everybody else. So that affords me then time to, you know, see my friends for a lunch or something that I wouldn't be able to do if I was getting up at like nine. Yeah. Well, my kids would miss school if I was getting up at nine. Wow. But I also, unfortunately, I'm also up.

often until 12 or 1 or where it would be ideal if I could go to sleep at 10. Do you have any tips for me? I go to bed like eight. I don't have kids. I don't have anything to do. I'm just like, I go to my podcast. I go to bed early. Usually, well, lately, no, because I don't know what happened to me recently.

I had this Kundalini awakening. We didn't even touch on it. We have so, we could talk for like another 10 hours. But yeah, I've mentioned on the podcast. I've done Kundalini. Everyone knows who Isabel is. And that's how we met. We love Isabel.

That's how we met in the first place. We were at one of her sessions together in Bali. And, yeah, last night, I had a full-blown kundalini awakening in the middle of the night. And I slept maybe one hour. So apologies for me probably looking like. You look gorgeous, always. Like a troll. The kundalini elevates everything and it makes you prettier anyway.

More glowing. Yeah. But it really, it really is a lot of. energy, you know, it's a never-ending process. I don't think healing is like it just, you heal and then it's done. It's just ongoing. So I guess I don't know what happened last night, but I've just been up all night thinking of things, thinking of ideas. Yeah, crazy. But everyone always says healing. I used to sleep at eight. I think that the healing, it's important to remember, we're not broken. Like sometimes when, you know, you think you have to heal like a wound, but we're not broken. We're

perfectly intact and we're just evolving and growing and becoming the best version of herself. But I think it's important to remember that. You just dropped like the best line of the podcast. So that was a really good way to end it to conclude the episode. We're not broken. I think also it's just important to always reframe every word you speak into something more light and positive and healing and looking at the light side of it versus the dark

and not focusing on the wound but focusing on how can this strengthen me. how can this inspire me? How could this make me better? And that's a really good way to look at it. That's so beautiful. Oh my gosh. Thank you so much for being me. That was fun.

Thank you. That was amazing. You're so wise and radiant and doing a million things. So I'm so happy for you and I'm so excited to use Lunaraka too. Good. I can't wait to share it. On every flight. You're going to get like a big box of them.

Although they're recyclable and reusable and washable. So you don't even need to buy another one. And you can buy them now. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You can buy them online. Amazing. Amazing. Official.com, I think.

Elinoraka.com. Exciting. Exciting. I'll put in the show notes too. Thank you, everyone, for listening to another episode of Date Yourself Instead. If you enjoyed this episode, please make sure to leave a comment on Spotify, as well as send me a DM on Instagram Atlas or on the podcast account at Date Yourself Instead. Thank you again. I love you. Thank you so much, Andrea, for being here.

I'll put her info and all of her details and her amazing companies in the show notes as well. Love you. Bye. Thank you.