Dateline NBC - The Family Secret

Episode Date: December 1, 2021

In this Dateline classic, a traumatic secret tears a family apart after 27 years. Keith Morrison reports. Originally aired on NBC on April 2, 2010. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It was the little girl who learned it first, the 12-year-old. She who was there at the beginning when the family secret was born. Why did it get started? Why did she keep it so long? She was all I had. While it did its evil work. To think that he had walked away. We couldn't even stand it.
Starting point is 00:00:34 What would that secret do? Everybody has a secret or two, but this? I'm Lester Holt and this is Dateline. Here's Keith Morrison with The Family Secret. Ah, yes, families. I suppose you could say this one, the family, if not the secret, got started in the middle of nowhere, which is what they like to call it in Ainsworth, Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:01:08 It wasn't so surprising, perhaps, that when young Lloyd Ford was done with school, he'd gone out, joined the Navy, sailed off to see the wide world from an aircraft carrier, this man at the center of the secret. Sandy Burke is his eldest daughter. My dad was just a fun guy. He was very fun-loving. He loved people. People loved him. People tended to gravitate towards my dad.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Especially women. That was not a secret. When Lloyd went back to Little Ainsworth after his stint in the Navy, one of the hometown girls caught his eye at the county fair. Before long, they were married. And that's how Sandy came along and her little sister Pamela, who loved her dad, but apparently wasn't the only one. All of the women around here had huge crushes on him and his brother.
Starting point is 00:02:00 And I've always heard he had to have a woman in his life. And when Lloyd and his wife took their little family out west, it was, so they say, to get away from some other woman. Anyway, that's where little Tommy was born, and Lloyd learned to be a real family man. He loved fishing. He would take us fishing, and we'd just bring strings of fish home, or sometimes we'd bring no fish home.
Starting point is 00:02:25 So we usually ate them for breakfast yeah we did and then well the kids are always the last to know what happened or why but it wasn't long before their mom suddenly packed them up and headed back to nebraska there's been a lot of times in divorces a child will take one side or the other, and I took my mom's. My dad was the bad guy. My dad did something to make my mom leave. They loved him still, of course, even when he started courting the new woman, Judy. Twice divorced, three kids of her own, including Kimberly, Judy's only daughter, who, all in all, was happier on those rare occasions when there was no man around her mother. I personally liked it best when it was just her and the boys and I.
Starting point is 00:03:17 No husband. Because her attention would focus. You'd lose her. Yeah. When a new man came along, what was she like with that person? They were it. We still got fed and taken care of and the norm, you know, but it was all about them. And in 1973, it was all about Lloyd. They married and then divorced and then remarried and tried to pretend a Brady Bunch life on Clark Street in Boise, Idaho. Lloyd drove long-haul trucks, Judy styled hair.
Starting point is 00:04:00 They joined the Shriners, went bowling, planned fishing trips. Lloyd's youngest, Tommy, lived with him and his stepmom, but Pamela stayed with her mother in Nebraska and rarely visited. By 1980, Sandy was 20 and off at college, but still has always called Lloyd every week, until the day Judy answered the phone. And when I first called, Judy told me he was away on business. So I called back a few days later, and she said, oh, no, he isn't home yet. And I thought, that's funny, because he's usually only gone like two or three days, and he'll be back. And I called the next week, and he still wasn't home, and I called my mom. So I think that my mom called out to Judy, and she said, well, the truth was she thought that Lloyd had ran off with another woman, and she didn't think he was coming back.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Days went by, then weeks. No word from their dad. At the end of the school year, Tommy's stepmom sent him back to Nebraska to live with his birth family. It was hard. I mean, my dad, for Tom and I especially, he was everything to us. And you thought he loved you. And now it seemed perhaps he didn't even care. You know, when we first heard, I think we really believed he'd be back.
Starting point is 00:05:20 If he left Judy, he would be back to get us. That summer, Lloyd's father hired a private investigator. My grandfather would come in almost every week to give me updates on, you know, had we heard anything? The detective hadn't found anything. He was following leads, but nothing was coming up. They heard stories. He moved to Michigan. He boarded a plane and never made his connection. Even a story that he was on Mount St. Helens when it erupted.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Sandy and her sister Pam longed for answers, a phone call even. But there was nothing. Where was their father? Whatever happened to Lloyd Ford? Here's a hint. Sandy didn't know the family secret, nor did Pam. But Kimberly did. She knew all about it. Where Lloyd went and why. Because she was there. But if she revealed it, would anyone even believe the chilling tale she'd carried and hidden for so long?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Coming up... I spent my whole life waiting for the other shoe to drop, you know? And here it was. The secret slips out when Dateline Continues The sad thing about a family secret is all the pain it's apt to trail behind. When Lloyd Ford dropped off his family radar back in 1980, left the mall for another woman or some other life or whatever it was, the children of his first marriage felt utterly abandoned, devastated. I mean, the ground you stand on doesn't seem stable anymore because every single thing that we had built our trust and
Starting point is 00:07:17 security in was gone. These sisters couldn't know that the answer to their decades of questions might involve the complicated relationships in Lloyd's new family, particularly between a mother and daughter, between Judy and her daughter Kimberly. Little Kim, nervous, needy, desperate to be perfect. How does a little girl attempt to be perfect for her mother? She tries not to make her mad. You know, do things that I know would make her happy. Clean the house.
Starting point is 00:07:53 We all worked in the yard. Everything had to be just so. So it looked nice when somebody came over. So it looked normal. And if it did, the love could be so good, so warm, enveloping, happy. If only the furies could be kept at bay. You learned to read her moods?
Starting point is 00:08:15 Oh, yeah. Really well. If she wasn't in a good mood, we stayed gone. Out of the house. Stayed out of her way. Oh, yeah. Because... You didn't want us here upset. That, said Kim, was the woman her children knew so intimately.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Not like the Judy who presented herself one way or another to the outside world. She was different for everybody. To a newcomer or her friends, she's a very very loving giving person but what they didn't see was she would do whatever it took to get what she wanted you saw all this happening when you're a little kid sure she knows in a certain situation what she needs to say you know i should laugh here you know maybe i should cry watching said Kim, she knew very well that love, one moment to the next, could be given or withdrawn.
Starting point is 00:09:11 She was the one we feared. We did as you were told. If she wanted you to do something and you just kind of didn't do it. Oh, no, we never did that. Never. Just didn't want to rock the boat, you know? I was so afraid she was going to leave.
Starting point is 00:09:31 And thus, it was abandonment Kim feared when her mother brought men home. She was all I had. Because it was changing all the time. And all these men would come into her lives, your life, and then go again. But you had her. Right. Anyway, Judy stayed put. It was Lloyd who would not be sticking around.
Starting point is 00:09:54 After her husband seemed to disappear off the face of the earth, Judy filed for divorce. And when Lloyd didn't show up at the hearing, Judy got everything. Kim remembers a rainy afternoon when her mother pawned off their wedding ring. She remarried a man named Tom Goff. Life went on. A quarter century passed. By 2007, Kim was 40. The single mother of two teenagers of her own.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Still held in her own mother's emotional web. But unspoken guilt increasingly clouded her mood, even at work. This was her boss, Gary Ziegler. What did she seem like to you? It always seemed like she was carrying something deep down inside her, some kind of baggage. You know, I couldn't put my finger on it for a long time. Gary had, what would you call it, antenna for these things. He had called me to come have a cup of coffee with him, and he could read me really well. And he's like, what's wrong? And I fell apart.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Told him the whole thing? Told him everything. And that's how a family secret contained for more than 20 years was leaked for the first time to an outsider who listened in something like disbelief. Everybody has a secret or two. But this, I deliberated for days before telling anybody. You decided not to keep a secret?
Starting point is 00:11:30 Correct. I knew the way I was raised I needed to do the right thing. So Gary called the prosecutor's office, which called the Boise Police Department, which opened an investigation into Lloyd's long-ago departure, a 27-year-old disappearance, a case they never knew existed. But they certainly did now. And that's how, one day, the cops showed up on Kim's doorstep. I spent my whole life waiting for the other shoe to drop. You know?
Starting point is 00:12:04 And here it was. Coming up, what was it about Lloyd's disappearance? She says, how would you like it if Lloyd was gone? And you're thinking, there's no way she'd do it. Who would do that? The mystery is about to be solved when Dateline Continues. Kimberly had a secret. A terrible, unspeakable, guilty family secret. She'd kept it, nursed it, cried about it for a quarter century. Until finally no longer able to hide the awful truth, she'd spilled it to her boss. And now, she's about to tell us.
Starting point is 00:12:58 It's real hard-faced truth. It almost killed me. It was late afternoon. Spring was coming. It was 1980. Lloyd was still around, the rest of the kids outside. Kim was, as usual, trying to be the perfect little daughter, helping around the house. They were in the kitchen, Kim says, when Judy looked down at her and asked a very curious question.
Starting point is 00:13:22 She was just cooking dinner, and she says, how would you like it if Lloyd was gone? Gone to a 12-year-old? Going divorcing? Moving out? What did you think when you heard that? Sounded all right. Kim was used to Judy's uneven love life.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Divorce didn't sound like disaster. She loved having her mother to herself here's Kim's memory of what her mother said to her oh you know I wouldn't it be nice if he wasn't here and you know we could be together you know just you guys me and would not be nice the way just like I always wanted it but then subtly unmistakably said, her mother's idea changed. Didn't sound like divorce after all. She made a list of all his faults.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Do you remember what you said? I never really questioned her. I just sit there and let her talk. Safer. Yeah. And this went on. A couple days, maybe a week. And each day it was a little more revealing until finally she just blurted it out.
Starting point is 00:14:33 You know, what would you think if he was dead? Did you think that that meant? Well, I thought like maybe he had cancer or he was sick, you know. That maybe he was going to die and she was preparing you? Yeah, I mean, you never know. But that was not what Judy had in mind, said Kim. And soon it was much clearer what she did intend. And then when she said, you know, what if I killed him?
Starting point is 00:14:58 What if I killed him? Right. She was being so vague. And you're thinking, there's no way she'd do it. It was so surreal. Who would do that? And then that was the last that was said for a while, or what? For a bit.
Starting point is 00:15:15 And then she started going through scenarios. You know, what if I smothered him? What if, you know, what if I slit his throat? And you're sitting there and you're like, why are you telling me this? She was 12, desperate for her mother's approval, which is why, she said, she muffled the silent voice in her head that asked why she was being sent to the store to buy sleeping pills. When you went on that errand,
Starting point is 00:15:41 did you have any notion of what they were for? She sent us to the store all the time. Later on, you saw her doing something with those sleeping pills? Crunching them up. Crunching them up? Mm-hmm. To a powder? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Kim watched Judy prepare Lloyd's favorite dessert, ice cream with butterscotch topping. Watch Judy mix in those crushed sleeping pills. Watch Lloyd devour it. Next morning, when the boys went off to school, Judy kept Kim at home. So she knew her stepfather stayed in bed, saw her mother crush more pills in Lloyd's coffee, in his soup, in more ice cream. Later, said Kim, she heard a racket behind the bedroom door. Lloyd was trying to get out to go to the bathroom. And they had their fishing poles behind the door.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And he had the hooks in his hands. Oh. Yeah. And I don't even know that he felt the pain. Yeah. Did he say anything? But he was just all tangled up and he was mumbling. And the only thing I understood was Lloyd had said, what in the hell is wrong with me?
Starting point is 00:16:49 And he kept falling into the wall and she's, you know, telling him he's going to be fine and, you know, you'll feel better soon. Then, Kim says, Judy turned around to her, gave her another errand. I was told to go outside
Starting point is 00:17:03 and get the trunk and clean it out. Did you understand why you were doing this? But I wasn't. I think I was too afraid to comprehend what was going on. I was just living second to second doing what she was telling me to do. But she remembers, she said,
Starting point is 00:17:20 clear as if it was this very morning, what happened when she dragged an old trunk back into the house? She had come out of the bedroom and she was standing there smoking. And I was in the living room and she just put it out and said, I'm ready. Coming up, one moment of horror and a lifetime of pain. You just stuff it deep inside. When Dateline continues. Kimberly, 12 years old, saw her mother standing in the living room of their house on Clark Street in Boise, Idaho.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Behind the bedroom door, her stepfather was in a stupor, induced by the very sleeping pills Kim said her mother had sent her to buy. Now, said Kim, she heard her mother say, I'm ready. She told me to go in the bedroom, which I didn't like because we weren't allowed in there. She had been in there prior, checking on him and whatnot. At some point had put him on the floor on a sheet. And I really didn't know exactly how she was going to do it until I walked in and saw the gun at the end of the bed. And she went over and turned up the stereo really loud,
Starting point is 00:18:55 and she said it would cover the noise. First, she asked me to pull the trigger. She gave you the gun? No, no, she was holding it. She was holding the gun. And she wanted me to pull the trigger. Point it at him? Right. Where at him? In his chest. And then she said, well, help me pull the trigger. And I basically refused to do it.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And I started screaming at her, what do you want? What do you want from me? What do you want me to do? And she said, just cover my ears. And so I put my hands on either side of her, and I closed my eyes really tight. And she kept saying something, and it seemed like forever, and I just screamed.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I said, if you're going to do it, just do it. And it was just a moment later, it was this loudest noise I ever heard in my life. I ran out the backyard into the alley. Kim cowered there, shaking and listening. I was horrified. I just sat there. I mean, I was crying and screaming,
Starting point is 00:20:00 rocking back and forth. And listening. Listening for what? For his voice, her voice, something. Because you didn't think she had actually done it? I wasn't sure. Maybe she missed. Maybe he woke up, you know. There was a part of me who really wanted him to wake up.
Starting point is 00:20:26 But I made my way back to the house. Back to her mother. I think she hugged me and told me she loved me. That was supposed to make it okay? Yeah. And did it? No. What happened then?
Starting point is 00:20:40 I had to go into the room. And the smell was still there. The smell of what? Gum powder. And I didn't look at him. I just grabbed the end of my sheet that I was told. The sheet he was lying on? Pulled him down the hall.
Starting point is 00:21:00 She had one end, I had the other. Right. And he was too heavy. He was so heavy. This is where you got in close? I had to touch him. What did it feel like? He was still warm.
Starting point is 00:21:14 But very obviously dead. Yeah. But she was not finished then. Not even close. Her mother, she said, had another job for her. She said, well, we've got to lift him up and put him in the trunk. I had to grab him under his legs. He was so heavy. And we got him in there and she just shut the lid, closed the latches,
Starting point is 00:21:46 and we drug it out back and put it next to the house. Out the door on the porch? Stacked some boxes on it. Judy rented a carpet cleaner. Kim helped her clean the blood off the floors. She scrubbed the blood off the wall. She made it look normal. But that trunk kept sitting there on the floors. She scrubbed the blood off the wall. She made it look normal. But that trunk kept sitting there on the porch. What'd she do with it? A couple days
Starting point is 00:22:12 before she murdered him, she told the boys that we were going to plant a peach tree out back. And so they're to dig a big hole to put the tree in. And a few days after the murder, the hole's filled in. There's no peach tree. She changed her mind. Did you ever figure out how she got that trunk from the porch to the hole and got it filled in? She had asked my brother, Shane. So now there are two people in on it, you and Shane.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Did you talk to Shane about it? Not really. Your brother and sister, did the two of you say, my God, she just killed him, and we're complicit? That conversation never happened? Why not? He didn't talk about it. She swore me a secrecy. Made me promise.
Starting point is 00:23:09 There was more to the secret then. Judy, said Kim, devised a cover story. And when she said it, it sounded true. She totally lived the my husband left me for another woman. And that was really believable.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Yeah. And there was really believable. Yeah. And there was such a short time after Lloyd left. Lloyd was murdered. Funny how that stuck in your head, Lloyd left, because that was the fiction. That's what we had to say. Kim stuffed it all inside, locked up the secret, kept her mother happy. But it wasn't over. A few months later, she said Judy had another job for Kim and her brother Shane.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Couldn't leave a body in the backyard, said Judy. They'd have to dig it up. Move it. They'd buried it in an old trunk they had on the property back then. Out in the yard, said Kim, they started digging. We were digging for quite a while, and we came to the trunk, and it was falling apart. They looked at their mother. What should they do? And she was just so cold, and matter of fact, just, you know, grab what you can.
Starting point is 00:24:22 As we started pulling it out, there was this horrendous smell. He hadn't disintegrated. Not much. And you could still see his tattoos on his arms. They had decided that it wasn't going to work and to just rebury him. So he stayed there? He stayed. And you just...ury him. So he stayed there? He stayed. And you just
Starting point is 00:24:45 stuff it deep inside and try to be normal. But of course it wasn't normal at all. And over the years, said Kim, it was only her conflicted ties to her mother, that powerful emotional glue that kept the two close and the
Starting point is 00:25:05 secret horror bottled up. That and her mother's promise. Hundreds and hundreds of times she reassured me that, you know, I'll go turn myself in if it'll make you better. What should she do? A perfect daughter could never betray her mother, nor could anyone, apparently, in the circle of deceit that grew and grew. But betrayals were coming, and not just one. Finally, Kim would learn what could happen to a daughter who disobeyed her mother. Coming up...
Starting point is 00:25:42 My first reaction was one of disbelief, almost. The police have a job for Kim. Go undercover to catch her mother. Well, I just wanted to talk to you. When Dateline continues... Kimberly was the keeper of an awful family secret, a secret she had never been able to tell her own step-siblings, Lloyd's children, that she had attended the murder of their father, and so they knew nothing.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Nothing at all. In 1981, less than a year after Lloyd's murder, Judy got married again, and life went on as before. Fifteen years after the murder, Judy sold the house on Clark Street to her youngest son, Kim's little brother, who moved in with his new wife, who learned about the secret and insisted, get rid of the body. So now Kim, married with two kids of her own, returned to that childhood home and told her siblings where to dig. I had to go show them where it was because nobody remembered. But you did. Sure, it's still burning my memory. Kim's brothers and a cousin dug up Lloyd's remains, took them to a dumpster. The secret circle grew,
Starting point is 00:27:06 and Kim felt she loved her mother still, but warned her, too, it was ever harder to keep silent. I guess I had made a deal with her, which was I would never come right out and tell anybody. And I told her that unless somebody asked me directly, because I won't lie, she didn't like that answer.
Starting point is 00:27:31 So she'd always call and do a mental check on me and then do her old standby promise that she'll do the right thing. Different when the time came. Right. But she didn't. And now Kim had told, and 27 years after the day she helped her mother cover up a murder, Detective Brian Lee was at her door. My first reaction was one of disbelief almost. Really? Could this have been kept quiet that long?
Starting point is 00:28:03 What did she look like when she came to the door? I wouldn't say she was surprised. Almost expecting, probably, that we were going to be there. So she told it again, relieved to be getting rid of it. And then came the request she didn't expect. More than a request, really. She'd have to go undercover and record an incriminating phone call with her mother. What was that conversation like? That was so hard. I was going to have to betray her
Starting point is 00:28:33 to get what they wanted. Hello? Hey. Hey, did you get that? Here, as the call begins, they chatter for a bit about nothing much. And then... Well, I just wanted to talk to you about something. And I won't bring it up again. But I started seeing a counselor up here. I'm talking about everything. But anyway, I got to go again today. But just some things I didn't want to get clear in my head.
Starting point is 00:29:04 It's not something we like to talk about. Why did you pick me to help you kill the boy? I didn't. Why was I there? I don't know. Is that a phone call? No. I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Okay. The call was over. A failure. What did you think when you heard that? Made me a little nervous. I bet. She was pretty keen to what was going on, I think. Then, Judy called back. They pushed the record button.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Hello. You know, I can't say anything except that you don't know the regrets that I've had. And that I still have. I don't know that I can answer your question. I don't remember a whole lot of it. You know, we had talked and I was trying to figure out how to get out of it and I remember you just saying get it, get it, get it, get it. All I was told was.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I know. Yeah. I know that. But I'm just telling you what I was hearing. You know what I mean? And it was like at that, there was no turning back. I guess I felt like I was in a hole and I was trying to dig myself out of a pit.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I was in hell, I guess. I don't know. And I'm so sorry that I could be there with you. The police had what they needed, but Judy wasn't finished. I guess the only thing I can tell you, Sam, is that I love you more than I love life. I'm sorry that I failed you, and I'm sorry that you have to go through this. I know that doesn't even begin to help, but I laid down my life for you. That means the only thing to do.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Felt like I was going to die. I betrayed her. I betrayed my whole family. And now, the police wanted more. They wanted me to go over to the house and show them where everything had happened. Once again point out the spot where he was buried. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:30 It was, of course, burned into her memory. For three days, the police dug up the past in the backyard on Clark Street. We had to go over and process that area where we were told the body was. It's part of validating the story that Kim told. So was there anything left? We found fragments of bone and bone. Seventh bone fragment, all that was left of Lloyd Ford. Police were able to determine that at least ten members of Judy's family
Starting point is 00:32:01 had helped keep the secret. In your experience, when that many people are aware of such a dark thing, does it stay hidden for very long? No. That's what was puzzling to us, how this kept quiet for that long. It suggests a measure of control over those folks which would be unusual. Very much so.
Starting point is 00:32:23 But the statute of limitations applied now. Only one person could be held accountable, only Judy. And thus the law would ensure that Kim's awful secret would be exposed in court the crime revealed justice served. But would it be justice, or even the whole truth?
Starting point is 00:32:40 Kim had turned on Judy. But this mother hadn't quite finished yet with her daughter. I know she was screaming, do it, do it, do it. Just do it. Coming up, Judy tells her story, and there's one more twist in store. A jury could acquit her. When Dateline continues. Lloyd Ford missed his children's birthdays.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Missed their graduations, their weddings. Sandy Burke's brother Tom walked her down the aisle. Lloyd missed all that because, or so his family was told, he'd left them all, just didn't care. Just not having him there was really hard. But to think that he had walked away. We couldn't even stand it to the point that my brother and I would never had pictures of my dad out in the house. Because if you have a picture there, someone's going to have to ask about your dad, and you're going to have to admit that the person that you thought you were closest to
Starting point is 00:33:52 in the whole world had just turned and walked away. Where's your dad now? I don't know. But of course, it was all a lie. Their father never left them. And the truth, one police finally called to tell them. It was just almost indescribable to think that he had been murdered the way he had been murdered.
Starting point is 00:34:15 With absolutely no regard for human life, just none. Just treated like a piece of garbage. That was hard. Yes, and then they discovered that Lloyd's own son, Tom, had unknowingly dug his father's grave when Judy told him to prepare a backyard hole to plant a peach tree. I think it's almost impossible to comprehend that type of evil. Sandy watched online as the Boise police dug up all that was left of their father,
Starting point is 00:34:48 those seven bone fragments. They tried to understand how Judy got her own children to help murder their father. My dad was the only dad these kids knew, and yet somehow she got these kids to participate in the murder, to bury the body, to dig up the body later that year. How do you get your kids to do something like that? Where is your mind of someone that would do something like that? On September 28, 2007, Judy Goff, now a 61-year-old grandmother, took her dogs for a walk. And that's where police arrested her.
Starting point is 00:35:25 But when they took her downtown... She requested an attorney right as we sat down. That was it? Yeah, there was no interview. No surprise? Not to me, really. She had 27 years to think about that decision. Judy was charged with first-degree murder,
Starting point is 00:35:42 and that's when Patrick Orr, then of the Idaho Statesman, began reporting the story. This was somebody who had no criminal record. Her friends described her as a kind, loving person, somebody that they trusted. So there was a lot of confusion. There was a lot of shock. Judy appeared before a judge who determined she was not a risk and granted bail. And six months later, her public defender went on the offense with a stunning claim. Lloyd, she said, was an abuser. She killed him, she said, in defense of her life and her children. This is a woman who loves her family, whosoever she can for her family.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Reporter Orr spoke to Judy's youngest son. He told me that Lloyd was abusive. Lloyd? Abusive? His own children were outraged at the accusation. That wasn't who my dad was. It was ludicrous to think that there was anything going on in the home with my dad and Judy. No abuse? No abuse. Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 00:36:42 But as the date for Judy's trial approached, her claim that Lloyd was an abuser hit the papers, became big news around Boise. Would Judy try a battered wife defense? Lloyd's children, furious and upset about what they considered vicious libel, bit their tongues when the prosecutor told them, don't say a word in your father's defense. The truth will come out at trial.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Except it didn't. The trial didn't happen. Judy struck a deal. Please state your name for the record. Judy Ray Goff. To plead guilty to second-degree murder and confess. Though the confession wasn't quite the story her daughter Kim remembered. I had a rifle. I was sitting on the edge of the bed, and I had the gun across my lap. He was sitting on the floor by my dresser, kitty corner from me. The gun went off. It was a terrible smell, and he was dead. When you say the gun went off, what do you mean by that? Your Honor, I must have pulled the trigger.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Then the judge asked about her daughter Kim's role in the murder. So had you talked to your daughter about killing your husband? You know, she said that I did. I don't really recall that part. Did you call your daughter to come into the room? I don't think so. I don't know recall that part. Did you call your daughter to come into the room? I don't think so. I don't know why she was there. I know she was screaming, do it, do it, do it.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Just do it. Was she now accusing Kim here in court? Was she blaming her own daughter somehow? For the past 30 years, she's telling you, I'll do the right thing if it'll make you better. I love you that much. And when zero hour came... She threw you under a bus.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Yep. She left me there. So the emotion is what, abandonment? Sure. You're still that little girl who's trying so hard to make her mom happy. That's one of my last pieces of my puzzle I'm working on. Abandonment. Abandonment is a family issue, apparently.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Lloyd's first family struggled with it for 27 years until they discovered he didn't leave them at all. But now that they ached to defend him from a charge they believed to be a cruel lie, they could not. Not without a trial. Had the prosecutor abandoned them now? Why was it so important to you to see this go to trial? This was my dad. This was the only thing that we could do for him. We felt the truth would come out. It would give him back his reputation. She had taken his life. Then she has to take his reputation, too. Hi, I'm Sondra K. Berg. In March
Starting point is 00:39:34 2009, Lloyd's kids returned to Idaho for Judy Goff's sentencing hearing. We sat through her whole sentencing. And in the ending, the judge acknowledged us six kids and Judy as victims. Never once mentioned my father. Does this feel like justice? No. It feels like they wanted to get this case over with, that it wasn't important to them.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Roger Bourne, then chief deputy of the prosecutor's office, defended the decision. We thought that going through a trial where Judy Goff gets to take the stand and vilify their father for hours at a time would not be productive for them and would not be productive for the people. The risk, of course, is that a jury could acquit her. From our standpoint, that would be the worst thing. The sentence for drugging and killing Lloyd, for having the kids bury him,
Starting point is 00:40:33 dig him up, keep their awful secret, 10 years in prison. Judy declined our interview request back then. She was released from prison in 2018. And Kim wrote a book called Unworthy. What would you do for your mother? How do you feel about her now? I don't feel a whole lot about her now. She's dead to me. And I don't mean that angry and bitter. Because then I'd be like her.
Starting point is 00:41:07 But that's not my mom. My mom left a long time ago. The house on Clark Street sits empty. The backyard overgrown. The secret the deadly secret
Starting point is 00:41:24 found the family almost three decades. The unraveling tore it apart forever. That's all for now. I'm Lester Holt. Thanks for joining us.

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