Daybreak - How Meesho is making India’s second-biggest logistics player's biggest fear come true

Episode Date: September 1, 2024

For a while now, some of the biggest players in India’s third-party logistics industry have been riding on the success of e-commerce unicorn Meesho. As of 2023, it accounted for over half o...f the 2.5 billion shipments that were being handled by third-party logistics players. Companies like Delhivery and Ecom Express happily rose to the occasion and partnered with Meesho to handle all its order deliveries. For logistics companies this was a dream come true because most of the other major e-commerce players in India – like Flipkart and Amazon – take care of all their logistics in-house. Now, Meesho has announced the launch of Valmo, its own in-house logistics arm. Naturally, third party logistics partners are nervous. But no one is more shaken up than Ecom Express.Tune in.P.S The Ken's podcast team is hiring! Here's what we're looking for.Daybreak is now on WhatsApp at +918971108379. Send us a hello with your name and since when you've been listening to us and be a part our community. Also, if you have any recommendations for this Thursday's Unwind segment, send them to us as texts or voice notes.Want to be part of the Daybreak community? Introduce yourself here.Daybreak is produced from the newsroom of The Ken, India’s first subscriber-only business news platform. Subscribe for more exclusive, deeply-reported, and analytical business stories.

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Starting point is 00:01:57 For a company like Misho, that clocks. millions of orders every single day, solid logistics is everything. So companies like delivery and eCom Express happily rose to the occasion and partnered with Misho to handle all of its order deliveries. This was a big opportunity for them, especially considering most of the other major e-commerce players in India like Flipkart and Amazon take care of all their logistics in-house. Flipkart has its own logistics company called E-Cart, while Amazon has 80s,000. or Amazon transportation services.
Starting point is 00:02:33 So for all the other third-party logistics companies, having Mishu as a client was great for business. As of 2023, it accounted for over half of the 2.5 billion shipments that were being handled by third-party logistic players. Which is why, when Mishu announced that it was launching Valmo, its own in-house logistics arm, its partners were understandably nervous. But no one is more.
Starting point is 00:03:00 shaken up than ecom Express. Its core business is under attack. Its biggest client has officially turned into its competitor and this could not have come at a worse time because the company is set to go public soon. And this is the company's second IPO attempt. The first time it had to cancel its plans because of unfavorable market conditions. So as you can tell, there is a lot riding on this. All you need is one look at the company's financials to know just how dependent it is on Mishu. The e-commerce platform has pretty much been its lifeblood. According to its IPO filings, over half of its nearly 3,000 crore rupee operational revenue registered in the year 2024 came from one unnamed customer. And at least four people have confirmed to the Ken reporter
Starting point is 00:03:55 Gorov Bauer that the unnamed customer in question is in fact Mishu. But even before Mishu announced Walmo, things were not looking great for Ecom Express. It was not growing as fast as its biggest competitor delivery. And for the last two years, its revenue has almost stayed flat. Analysts said that is largely because unlike delivery, EcomExpress put all its eggs in one basket. While delivery had built full service logistics to deflect the Walmo impact, eCom Express was busy doing everything it could to Wu Micho. Welcome to Daybreak, a business podcast from the Ken.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I'm your host, Nickda Sharma, and I Don't Chase the New Cycle. Instead, every day of the week, my colleague Rahal Philipos and I will come to you with one business story that is worth understanding and worth your time. Today is Monday, the 2nd of September. Anyways, Ecom Express and Mishu have sort of grown together. They were both founded around the same time, EcomExpress in 2012 and Mishu in 2015. From the very beginning, both companies have worked very closely together. Of course, this meant that Ecom Express started getting a lot of business from Mishu very early
Starting point is 00:05:42 on. But it was more than that. Former executives say that Ecom Express employees would make frequent visits to Mishu's first ever office in Bangalore. It was a humble, home-like space crammed with employees, a far cry from the fancy sprawling office that they now have. It was around last year when things started changing. This was when Micho started scaling its in-house logistics. It was the next natural step. Like I mentioned earlier, most major e-commerce companies take care of their own logistics. There are two main reasons for this. First,
Starting point is 00:06:20 The company does not want to rely too heavily on a handful of third-party logistic partners. And in Mishu's case, it finally became big enough to launch its own logistics business. And second, it wanted to have more control over the process. Simply, because it would then be able to bring down the cost of returns and failed delivery attempts. This was a sore subject for Ecom Express. A former employee told again that Misho had set a target for the company saying that returns should not exceed 18% of shipments. But unfortunately, eComexpress consistently failed to meet that target month after month.
Starting point is 00:07:00 So now, Mishu is taking matters into its own hands. As of now, it has managed to move more than a third of its order volumes through Valmo. And a consultant in the logistics space says that this allocation could go up to 50% in about a year's time. Mishu claims that Valmo has reduced its logistic cost by nearly 10%. So, Mishu does not own any trucks, warehouses or sorting centers, unlike third-party logistic firms or other marketplaces logistic farms. Instead, Valmo is a tech platform that breaks down each leg of the supply chain. Unorganized local players handle the shipments at each step with Valmo coordinating handovers.
Starting point is 00:07:45 So, Mishu is able to avoid the costs associated with building physical infrastructure. It also does not have to make any big investments towards automation. So, where does this leave things for Ecom Express? Well, back in the day, it was taking care of 1 million out of 2 million of Misho's daily shipments. But now, Mishu has grown to over 3.5 million a day and Ecom Express is taking care of of the same number of shipments. So, the logistics company is stuck between a rock and a hard place, and Mishu has made the most of it.
Starting point is 00:08:25 More on that in the next segment. Hi, we have an exciting announcement. If you are a regular listener, you would know that the Ken's podcast have hit many milestones this year. From daybreak crossing 1 million downloads to the launch of our first ever premium podcast two by two. We want to keep this momentum going. And for that, we are looking for talented people to join our team.
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Starting point is 00:09:34 Mishu basically gave EcomExpress an ultimatum. Match Walmour's costs and we will shut it down tomorrow. Ecomexpress could not do it. So it tried to meet Mishu's demands in other ways by updating the logistics company's processes to develop new reports and analytics. Another way was offering early morning deliveries. This was despite the additional infrastructure and labour costs. But Ecom Express was willing to go that extra mile if it meant it could get more of Mishu's shipments. It also scaled up reverse pickup services for items returned by customers, another costly venture that did more harm than good.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And despite all of these efforts, it still remains in a pretty uncomfortable. comfortable spot. Meanwhile, delivery always wanted the upper hand. It never wanted to be at the mercy of the marketplace. And the way for it to do this was by diversifying its client base. So now the company serves over 20,000 small and medium enterprises in its express parcel business loan. Compare that to Ecom Express, which only has 6,000 customers in total. Delivery is also building the range of services it can offer out. outside of e-commerce. For instance, its party truckload business,
Starting point is 00:10:56 where it moves relatively larger shipments from multiple clients in a single vehicle, makes up nearly a fifth of its revenue. The company has also ventured into warehousing and supply chain services. But that said, delivery still needs Misho. So, it is most likely going to lower its prices to reduce the volume loss thanks to Valmo. Plus, its full-service logistics model, is more asset-heavy as it needs to own tractor trailers and has invested in building large automated warehouses. This is where Ecom Express has a slight advantage. It can lower fixed costs
Starting point is 00:11:37 while still having more room to slash costs, even when its revenues take a hit. But apart from that, its bet on different revenue streams have not quite panned out. More on that in the next segment. It's not like Ecom Express has not tried to diversify its services on offer. For example, it started something called modular services with Walmo in mind. So EcomExpress plays a part only in a particular leg of the supply chain instead of handling the shipment end-to-end. The company is also trying to prioritize its other big customers, particularly Reliance-owned online fashion marketplace Agio.
Starting point is 00:12:24 It has been pushing for a greater wallet share from them. So it has been trying to diversify, but a lot of its bets have just not been successful. For example, the company also delved into warehouse management and operating dark stores for quick commerce players. But this makes up only one tenth of its revenue. And it's not clear how strong of a revenue driver this will be going ahead. And that is because major quick commerce players like Blinket Zepk, or Swiggy Instamort would not want to hand over control of their highest volume dock stores to a third-party
Starting point is 00:13:01 logistics company. It would end up compromising their speed. At best, dark stores operated by third-party logistic companies would be a small niche in tier two locations. And as for modular services, its share in eCom Express's revenue remains so small that it comes under Express parcel business. The company aims to grow this division to 5 to 10% of its overall revenue by next year. The company is also dealing with somewhat of a leadership crisis. For example, Ecom Express had two sets of people, key account managers and sales personnel, both to deal with the same clients, which caused internal conflict between these teams. And the lack of clarity exists from the top of the food chain too.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Former employees told again that none of the company's founders were deeply involved in day-to-day business. The company just went through a major shake-up of the top-level leadership. It got a new CEO named Ajay Chittkara in September 2023. Chitkara led the enterprise arm of the telecom giant Bharty Airtel before he joined Ecomexpress. With him, many other top-level executives came in too. The hope is that this will herald. a new era for the company. It certainly looks like a much-needed refresh is underway.
Starting point is 00:14:29 But is this enough to revitalize stagnant revenues and introduce more agility? Only time will tell. A break is produced from the newsroom of the Ken India's first subscriber-focused business news platform. What you're listening to is just a small sample of our subscriber-undi offerings. A full subscription unlocks daily long-form feature stories,
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