D&D is For Nerds - D&D is for Nerds Channel Update

Episode Date: December 21, 2024

A lot has happened since we first decided to re-tackle Barovia. And while the next campaign to hit your ears would normally have been the (maybe??) last season of Vampire Infested Barovia, life got in the way and we couldn’t record before Zammit’s baby was born. So have a listen to where we’re going with the story, what’s coming up next as well as some listener questions.If you could do us a great kindness and follow the Jarren’s Outpost Board Game Kickstarter that would be much appreciated! You can also check out the website, as well as follow us on instagram and facebook. If you’re wanting the 2024 Nomesmas Special you can purchase it as a digital download or sign up to Imagination Adeventure+ on our websiteor Apple Podcasts. And be sure to check out our Digital Downloads store in the upcoming weeks for Jarren’s Outpost Remastered and Abridged. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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not the grand wizard. It's okay, you put it on. It's okay, you put it on. Turn it up, one more time. Greetings adventurers, and welcome to a D&D's for Nerds Channel Update. Possibly the first ever? I am not sure.

No, surely not. I feel like there's 100 hundred percent been like a ten minute Yeah, very possibly like a two minute you just use. Oh, yeah being like Yeah, a two minute thing where I'm like what's going on? Oh, no Hit record Yeah, this is what's gonna happen. But no, we thought that it was a high time that we let you know about what the future of D&D is for those is gonna look like, at least into the next year, to just keep you abreast of everything that's happening on our end so that everybody's freaking across

it. That's something we should be doing more often. Well, who can say? For the number of times that we get, we do put like little, well here's the trick. So we do put little stuff at the beginning and end of episodes to let people know what's going on. But we still do get a lot of people messaging being like, is that, I don't understand, is that the last thing?

I gotta say, I gotta say D&D is for nerds fans, I love you to death, but sometimes it seems like you don't listen to the podcast. But this is not an airing of the group. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is the same space, but it's not an area. It's not an area. You begin a podcast. Yeah.

Yeah. You just hit the floor. The problem is here. You hit jump 15 seconds. Yeah. Well, we might put some stuff at the start of the end. Uh, the skip button's real easy. Yeah, it's right there, dude.

Uh, also another problem as well with when it comes to like, I guess where we're hosting everything Mmm, at least a public feed It's like you can put like a programmatic like add-in that like we can do which puts it into like every single episode Oh, that's if you download it, which is great. But if you like me and forget You might get the same thing. Yes promoting say like a live show that was a year ago And if that happens you're like, well I know they're gonna mess this up, I'm gonna skip it.

Fair enough, forget it. So maybe this is a better way to do things. You can't avoid us now, you hit the skip button, you're just gonna get more announcements. Exactly, if you don't listen to this episode, it's absolutely on you for being confused in the future. But basically, first of all we wanted to say, obviously I hope you really enjoyed Return to Grace.

I think that was a great fun campaign. Handsome Tom and Cass and you, Adam, did wonderfully. Me too, I was there as well. I didn't want to compliment myself. You did incredible, man. Yeah, thank you so much. Let me give you the accolades. You were amazing.

Oh, you too, guys. As someone who only edited and was in it, let me give you all flowers. Oh, thank you very much. Beautiful work by all of you. Whoa, you actually have flowers. That's crazy. He literally bought in a flower each.

Everyone was okay. So the next campaign that we are going to be releasing on the D&D is for Nerds feed will be familiar to some. So we have basically as part of our Kickstarter campaign to launch our Jaren's Outpost board game. We've gone back to the initial Jaren's Outpost Rumble and Jaren's Outpost board game. We've gone back to the initial Jaren's Outpost Rumble and Jaren's Outpost Hustle, and we have remastered that campaign for you to listen to with sound effects, with music,

with improved audio as well, because we recorded that one so long ago. So long ago. Audio was not perfect. I was on much older mics. I don't know if you remember this, but when we were recording it, it was during a, it was like a heat wave. Oh yes, that's right. And I put in a fan, like an oscillating fan. I remember this.

Yeah that's so funny. Which was great because when nothing happened. Yeah when like initially like yeah it's fine it's not being picked up and whatever but of course, you know, yeah when it wasn't pointing at the mic. Yeah Yeah, did that make it you record like five seconds while the fan is pointed at the mic That would have been an old place down in the spare room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was going to say the spare room in, I was almost going to say like the street name, but like we don't live there. Who cares? It was in Delaware.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. In Delaware. Yeah. It was the Delaware studio. I was thinking the other day, the first fall from Graces were recorded there too. Really? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

It's, it's, it, cause I remember doing them, cause they, there's so many things here at the Indies, where we're like, oh, hey, this would be a neat idea. Well, we'll do this between campaigns. But yeah, that happened. That happened absolutely at the Delaware studio,

which is crazy. With the oscillating fan as well, I just want to ask, because often if you have like a noise in the background, if it's consistent, you can EQ it out. But because it would have been like, yeah. So we want to get off again.

So we had to do is isolate that little bit of there. And then you basically got to EQ it out for the whole thing. So I think it was on HT's mic as well. So it was kind of like, you know, he's a mic only, but then because his mic sounds weird, you're gonna gotta then do it to every single one. Like do a master thing and EQ it. Hey, it was a fun thing. Anyway, yes, it's Sean Allen is the editor.

He may be familiar with his work on the first Longhouse. Yes, Longhouse 63 he did work on, which a lot of people really love, which I always appreciate. But yeah, it's a very similar thing that he's done for Jaren's Outpost. I've listened through to it. It's incredible so much just wonderful like work little touches You wouldn't even expect And yeah, it is slightly abridged because we're so much fast. Yeah, exactly There's so much fast that's in in those games you want you shit that I let me tell you you've lost Oh, I know it's not supposed to swear in the channel

That is one of the words Wonderful sister show, Thumb Cramps. This is not safe for schools. Going into this, Joel was like, if you swear, I'll fucking fire you. I'll fucking fire you, you piece of shit. I will slash your own goddamn throat. I'll slash your goddamn throat.

I'll slosh it, then I'll slash it. A slosh slash, I was taking a bath, your throat, dude. Anyway, so it's a bridge. So I think it's about 14 episodes. Yeah, it's about 14 episodes because initially when we did it, again, the channel, again, the channel, when we were doing everything,

we used to do things in like half an hour chunks. Like 30 minute episodes. And then we sort of moved out to like an hour episodes. And we sort of backtracked a little bit to 50 to 45 minutes and still trying to find that kind of sweet spot. I love it because of that season one of Jannan's Outpost is like 15, no, but like 20 episodes in season two is eight.

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. That's another one of the reasons why it's kind of like, oh, it's really frustrating that we have these like half an hour episodes and we have an hour episodes after them. Absolutely. And so part of it was trying to have like at least a semblance of it all the same

Absolutely and and because it of that like a bridge nature all of those like emotional moments and like the exciting action like it It just hits like the pacing of it rocks on a realist and like it really I think it's very At I mean it sounds great. The new edit the new abridged version is really really good, but I think it's very telling of me as a DM that when I listen, I Listened through it and I was like, what did they cut out? I genuinely could not remember. That's what it feels like like I was because I was listening through to it to give because obviously when your favorite moment doesn't appear Because I was listening through to it to give because obviously when your favorite moment doesn't appear I'm so sorry, but I genuinely don't remember me neither

but because so I listened back through it one because I just wanted to hear it but also Because initially it was way more episodes that meant that some episodes had to be retitled basically Yeah, because the title wouldn't make sense anymore. Um, and yeah, I was exactly the same I was like when like, like, what is missing from this? Like, this is what I remember Jarren's outpost sounding like. Well, I have to say, like, you've got to remember, it's like, well, we do it initially. Yeah. Yes, exactly. There's so much faff there, right? And, you know, as we're doing everything and then it's like, okay, cool. And I take it away and I edit it.

Yeah, yeah. And then so it's like, you may or may not listen to it then. Yeah, yeah. So if you do, it's like, you might listen to that. And it's like, oh yeah, cool, that's that. And then what, 10 years go by? Yes, yes, exactly. Something ridiculous. We were actually kind of talking about this

on one of the shows that you can gain access to if you're an imaginaut, if you sign up for the Imagination Adventures at sanspetsradio.com. But on House Rules, a show me and Adam do, we were talking about Adam finishes a campaign and then he just puts it out of the world He doesn't know what's gonna happen to it after it

Yeah, I was like, yeah, and then I take his idea of first pass at it I edit it and then I put it out into the world Snap it up. Thank you You get the final part yeah, you get the final listen on what did and didn't happen Yeah, I sometimes I'm like, I wonder if this will happen You get the final listen on what did and didn't happen. I sometimes am like, I wonder if this will happen. I wonder whether this joke will go or whatever. You know, some fight with Boris will happen or something like that.

And I'll be like, did people know Boris talks? Did that get cut out? I think they did. It's part of it that wishes I could, like, you know, someone that, you know, I give it to someone else who isn't involved in the campaign at all. Maybe actively hates D&D. That's a good idea. So they're like, I hate all this bullshit. Cut all, maybe actively hates D&D. So that's a good idea. So they're like, I hate all this bullshit,

cut all this nonsense out, that was pointless. And you just don't think about it, but then one day you check the D&D's notes feed and there's nothing's been uploaded in two years. Sometimes I find out as well that something just always gets cut out and I think it has affected, like for example, I found out, I don't want to say recently, a little while ago, I found out has affected, like, for example, I found out, um, I don't want

to say recently, a little while ago, I found out that anytime I say numbers, essentially that gets cut. And I feel like I, as a result, I don't say no numbers because sometimes I just need to say it to myself, but, um, I, numbers, um, have just stopped coming up. I've kind of noticed that. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've kind of noticed that, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause it just, and you know, that's part of like

this remaster is that those sections, because I don't think we were that judicious back then. So those sections where it might be like, okay, 15 damage, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, has been kind of removed. So it's just like you hit, they've taken some damage. Like, you know, it's very punchy. It's very exciting.

I hope you all enjoy it. I think it sounds incredible. Yeah, it's awesome. It's very punchy. It's very exciting. I hope you all enjoy it. I think it sounds incredible Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's it's awesome. It's so awesome Of course if you do like that remember to us sign up for the Jared's Outpost board game. Yes, absolutely Kickstarter, I think we're trying to aim for I think it's like a thousand people to be following Yep, there's currently about 600 and change I think at the moment So, you know, we're getting close but we'd love you to be part of that That just means basically that you're following it so that when it does launch which should hopefully be soon Yes, the goal is because we're talking to or we've

Hired people who have done kickstarter before because we've never done. Yes is our first kickstarter ever And they said they're like Epco once you get that sort of a thousand followers, then it's like, sweet, what we're gonna do is, once we get that number, then we'll be launching within the month. Absolutely. And so at the moment, in terms of where that board game is at, everything is pretty much done. Absolutely.

We're sort of just going through it all, like those really fine tuning, making sure everything's aligned. It's that kind of like making, you know, is it off by point something on this particular? Like piece of board. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No part of this is a million. There's not a million anything going on.

So it's like, you know, like looking at things, making sure they're all aligned. And so we're sort of going through that and getting like the, you know, another prototype getting printed. Absolutely. So we can kind of really look at all that and make sure it's all like sweet and ready to go So that's so the cut so look we're not one of them kickstarters Where it's just an idea and a dream?

That's a scam and we're not gonna just take your money we have it's done. We're not scamming. No one's scamming. I understand that saying it's not a scam maybe you make it sound like a scam. But let me tell you it's not a scam. We're not like other Kickstarters we put out. We do. But yeah, it is. It's completed. It's a completed functional, extremely fun game. Which again,

truly sounding more and more like a you gotta be on our side. I think the trick is I don't want any more sass from the peanut gallery! I think the trick is to stop saying that it's definitely not. Just move on. As you've said, we've played it with a variation of it on tabletop simulator. Should be another updated version of that. Hopefully sometime soon with the new artwork and all that kind of stuff.

Well, not, I say new artwork, but basically the new layout. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Again, redesigning everything you're like, I really like this like city scape design and then you're like, but it's taken up so much room. Oh yeah. I guess I'll cut it.

That hurt. So that'll be on the tabletop scene. So we can play around that. But like it's been really- For updates you should follow the Kickstarter, but also you can follow on Instagram. Yes. Yes. That's true. Did you mention that already?

No. No I did not. Oh my god. To repeat you and then be mocked. Truly the terror. Adam, the reason you could false Instagram went through my brain and was like, we have an Instagram. Yeah, I remember. What's it called? Is it Jaren's Outpost? I think it is. You can foster Instagram what went through my brain was like we have an

You know, we'll dust it off Yeah, by the by I guess the reason why we're doing this. Yeah. Oh heaps good is I have a baby now Child is just over what day is it? Half of your brain goes to the baby. Oh, it's Monday my friend. Ah yeah, so he's like a month and change now. Yeah. A month and a half. Oh god, I'm so tired. It's not even, it's like 4pm. Yeah. So yeah, we had a kid. You can be tired at any time if you haven't had enough sleep. That's true. That's true. Yeah, so I've had a baby, and I say I, but my wife had the baby. I was there supporting her. You were around.

And yeah, again, as well as things, when you're doing something like this, when you say, I feel like a public facing show, and you're, you know, a pub, yeah. I was, I don't say a public figure, but that feels wrong and bad. You're like a guy people know. A guy people know tangentially.

People know Joel Zab. You know, we're like Z grade. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Z grade celebrities. I'd picture so far as to say double Z. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Double Z, yeah. I was gonna say, what happens after the Z? Does it just go like AA?

Or does it go umlaut or something? I know, I think AA is good. We don't want that. Question mark? Sometimes when you are done with the alphabet, you get like the punctuation. The terror bangs, something like that. So with that.

And so it's kind of like, you know, and the bad thing is like, not many people are across everything that punctuation. Yeah, yeah. So with that. Yeah. And so it's kind of like, you know, and the bad thing is like, you know, not many people are across everything that we do. Yeah, of course, absolutely. Which is also another problem of like, you know, where is that we're posting to try and get people's attention.

And so when it's like, for example, hey, this is the last episode of Return to Grace, people are like, I missed it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Like, now fair enough. And so these things that like, you know, it's just been a kind of a problem, I guess through many different media,

I guess organizations, they're trying to get that message out there of like, you know, hey, this is coming up or hey, this is happening or hey, we're doing a live show or hey, we're, you know, this over here. So like, yeah, not everybody's across it. But yeah, so we've had a child, you can don't know how many- The Royal We.

Yeah, yeah. The Royal We. Don't know how many. I don't know if I wee. I don't know if anyone uses the royal wee. I think so. Yeah, it's easy, you know. When the queen says in my eyes, we are disgusted. I don't know if that's how you use the royal wee still. Sorry? Isn't the royal wee like a royal eye?

I think it means to refoy, yeah, to refoy. Like if the queen's, if the queen says we are hungry, she's referring to herself. Yeah, Well, she doesn't say that anymore She's hungry for brains Come back to life as a zombie anyway, go on. We would like some brains. Yeah. So I guess I get it's like You know me and my partner have a lot of trouble conceiving Yeah, and I don't know how many people know about that either tangentially or not, but it's just like, you know, it's been Yeah, I think that's kind of also why, like, you know,

D&D's for Nerves in particular, because it is this kind of long arcing storyline. Yeah, absolutely. Different things and different campaigns and these things that happen, happen sometimes in the middle of a campaign. Yeah. Or happen while we're middle of recordings.

While life just sort of. And life will just kind of, you know, we're all really just punching the breadbasket. Yeah, pull the rug out from under it. Absolutely. And so there is those kind of like, maybe these, and maybe we should have done some channel updates earlier on to kind of explain these kind of like big things or these, these, these why

were things changed? Why, what happened here, et cetera. And it's kind of like, well, you know, like the, uh, like the Greyhill camp. Yes. Um, like the very first one, not the further adventures with the Greyhill, Greyhill with like me, Cass. The one that's in the main feed. Yeah.

The one that we get guests for. So it was like me and Cass and the reason why like Jack you were having some issues Yeah, I said some life stuff was sort of happening for me at the time So I was like, I just can't be there for that. And so I was like cool me and Cass I just did that and it was meant to have like kind of like that like finish off that like a one season I mean were like that like I think it was like I just turned into the spider. Yeah. Yeah But then it's kind of like the thing you think with yourself is just kind of like, you know It just kept happening kind of overt kept happening. Yes with yourself, it just kept happening, COVID kept happening.

And then me and my partner had like, I don't wanna say like the first of several miscarriages. And so it was just kind of like, we had things in the bag, but then we had to take time off. And then it was like, we can't really get people back to do certain things. And we didn't wanna continue, make a new story out of nothing.

So we kind of just kept, okay, well why don't we just use these characters. Yeah, we're already here. Let's just keep telling this story. So why they're like, you know, it's 30 minutes. I'm like, well, that'll give us, you know, a little bit more time. Yeah, for sure.

We can buy ourselves. And it's just like, well, things didn't calm down. COVID got worse and well. Absolutely. So yeah, these things happen. And so I was like, that's kind of why maybe it just, it's crazy how much it's like the personal life will affect the creative life. Oh, 100%.

I don't know, maybe it's because you want to put up a little guard. Yeah, yeah, totally. I don't want everyone to know too much this stuff. So it's like everything's going fine, everything's normal. This is how we intended things to go, but actually everything always, and especially here sandsman's radio on like a more macro level like we do D&D's for nerds That's like one arm of the network. Yeah, then we also have plenty of that star Which is another arm of the network and let me tell you listeners dear listeners Life is a constant battle of balancing those two arms literally tomorrow

Yeah, I had to cancel a world of darkness thing to do a baseless speculation thing like yeah That's stuff, you know tomorrow in our time for your time. I don't know when you're listening Yeah last week. Well, unless you're listening to this in like five years from now Five years. What's the future look like space man? But yeah, so like you know life life gets in the way So, I mean hopefully ideally maybe we'll do more channel updates as time goes on But yeah, partially you're right. This is also to just give you an idea of what the future is gonna look like now that Johnny Baby has entered the fray.

Has entered the arena. A new foe has appeared. And boy, does he love to scream. We were listening to his beautiful dulcet tones not long ago. He's doing something which is called like purple crying. Oh boy Well, I like to call it. He's purple screaming It's an acronym. Oh What it stands for it was fun to guess

When my wife told me about that was like an acronym and then I tried to do it I first off did not know clearly know how to spell purple How did you spell oh I was guessing so many wrongs. This would be my guess. Please, uh, relent. Please, let, and then in brackets, me, and then I don't

have anything for the E. You're not guessing how he spelled purple, you're guessing what it stands for. No, no, no, no, he's not wrong. It's pretty close to what I was doing. As in what I was guessing. Oh, right, no, no, he's not wrong. It's pretty close to what I was doing. I'm not wrong. As in what I was suggesting. Oh, right, yes, yeah, yeah. But it was-

Am I dumb? Did he not spell purple, though? Did he? I think I did. Yeah, I think, check the tapes. I think I'm dumb. Maybe none of us know how to spell purple. I'm 99% sure I know how to,

but now you've put doubt in my mind. That'd be a great way for us to discover none of us know how to spell purple. Or just read in general. But it's, yeah, they get like, yeah, purple face weirdly, like because they're screaming and crying so much. I was about to say, that would be so stressful if my baby turned purple.

Yeah. Oh yeah, well, it's a very bright red. And it's like, they get to this thing where they're crying and they stop breathing. Oh no. And so you gotta like, glow in their face to kind of like, hey, remember to breathe, idiot. Christ. But no, it's a peak of crying. Unexpected because crying may start for no clear reason,

which is lovely to hear. Yes, resist soothing, which is lovely. Okay. The pain like face, long lasting, which they can cry up to five hours at a time and in the evening. So it's a, maybe it cries late afternoon or evening. It's crazy that it's not an acronym,

but it's an acrostic. Hey, can I say? Yeah. And I'm sorry that I have to be the one to say this. Every single letter as you were going through made me feel more and more like babies are stupid. Babies are stupid dude. Oh my God.

It needs you. Johnny baby needs you Genuine contempt I would be so frustrated at Johnny baby if I had to deal with purple crime Yeah, and apparently we're not in the worst of it at the moment. Yeah, that's insane Yeah, when we talked like the bid wife and midwife was like, okay So you they showed like a graph? Yeah, I can exponentially like rising. It's like you talked to like the midwife, and the midwife was like, okay, so they showed like a graph, like an exponentially rising. It's like, you're here. And I'm like, where are we?

And it's like down the bottom, like, oh no. Oh, come on. Jesus Christ. But that's it. You know postpartum depression or whatever, I don't postpartum contempt. How dare you? Just yeah, postpartum like shock, like, oh. You're affronted.

Come on baby. That's actually it's a really cool thing because like the whole purple crying was it's only really been I think it was it's like a yeah kind of coined it around 2007 to prevent. Oh wow. It is to prevent shaken baby syndrome. Oh my god. Because they're like this. Well, the thing is-

I could imagine shaken baby syndrome being part contempt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was so funny, like before Johnny baby was born, maybe I've mentioned this before, before it was you guys, but on one day before he was born, we spoke to two people independently, separately. And like, as they're chatting, they're like,

oh yeah, just word of advice, don't shake the baby. Just like, independent of each other., just word of don't shake the baby But independent of each other It's like you're gonna wanna and now having been it you're gonna wanna Yeah, I dude I'm so I'm 100% there You want to shake the baby to save your baby? People would need to be telling me that while I'm while I'm shaking the baby. I'm sending you texts. Hey man, just a quick reminder. Don't shake the baby. So it's kind of like, look, your baby's gonna be

crying for maybe no apparent reason. All the things that you're gonna do, your system's in place, it's gonna be fine, but it's not gonna work. And so like, hey, there's a reason for this. It's just this. Well that's good, you're like, it's normal. It's normal, this is okay. And it's very fun. Because it's working as tandem, we're like, it's normal. It's normal. This is okay. And it's very fun.

Cause it's working as tandem. We're like, you know, okay, I've reached the end of my limit. You take the child. Okay. No, cool. Well, yeah, so last night, last night, like four, no, it was like, yeah, four AM,

we started screaming, wife's trying to handle him. And then she's getting like, she's like, oh, I'm gonna throw you against the wall. I'm like, hun, give me the baby. She's like, no, I gotta like, no, give it now. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. Tag team, tag team. And she got up and me the baby. No, I'm not give it now She got up and left and I didn't I didn't see her for like

Half an hour and I was like, which I was about to say what did people do before this shaking babies? Yeah, yeah turns out that yeah, she's wet outside she to pump and then a cat sat on her and she's like well I guess I'm like, oh, I guess that's a nice way of soothing. Yeah, that's good, that's good. So yes, obviously you're pretty occupied with Johnny Baby, as you just heard. So after the Jaren's Outpost campaign, basically for those who are wondering, when the next season of Vampire Festival Barovia is coming, don't worry, you are gonna get it.

But whilst Johnny Baby is on the scene, it's probably going to be until things calm down baby wise. It might be a little bit of a while, but we do have a bunch of campaigns that are going to happen in between when Zammat is more, you know, free to record. After the Jaren's Outpost remastered campaign, we are going to be jumping back to Sir Grace. Me and Adam are currently in the middle of actually recording that as a kind of like, just to sort of- A reminder of what's happening, but also giving you some idea of what's going on. Me and Adam are currently in the middle of actually recording that as a kind of like just to sort of a reminder of what's happening, but also giving you some idea of what's going on in the wider with this

specific story, the Sir Grace arc, if you will, the kind of what answering some questions, expanding the universe and explaining some things. I think there's been this interesting thing with this whole campaign from way back at the end of Search for a Helm where Sir Grace is clearly set up to be the sort of big bad, but it's extremely unclear of what his motivations or plans are. So I think this game is a little bit of, obviously not revealing too much, but of sort of starting to give you some hints as to what's going on there. Setting up some, I also am taking this opportunity to set some things

Up things that I wanted to do in a in you know when both you two plus Handsome Tom and cast yeah when everyone reunites for the big joint game together to defeat so grace Yeah, some setting up some pins so that we can knock them down later. Absolutely. So interesting cast the characters Yes, it truly is. It truly is. It's a very tense, weird game, which is, it's a lot of fun. So you'll have that after that.

And then hopefully, I mean, by that time, obviously depending, if not, we do have a bunch of other ideas and other campaigns we wanna do. Yeah, so like again, like Rovio, I think it's season four? Mm-hmm, yeah, I think it's season four. Yes.

Yeah, we would've liked to have had that up and running kind of now, but I guess prior to you going to the UK, we had a couple of like COVID scares that were happening. I got really ill at some point for some reason. I am just generally stupid. Yeah. Nice.

Right, right, right. Right. Yeah, I got like a cold or some viral infection for about a week. And then when you guys came back from the UK, I got just kicked with COVID so hard. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, it's like- And then, yeah, we just kind of ran out of time before the- For sure.

The pregnant- The baby. And yeah, it's just kind of these things where it's like, you know, best laid plans. And so, because like, with something like Barovia, because it's just kind of those things where it's like, you know, best laid plans. And so, cause like with something like Barovia, because it is a, it's a longer campaign, you kind of need to really be paying attention. You kind of gotta be present there. Like, you know, you need to be, you know, on as it were.

It's been a very fun campaign. It's also been a very like, you know, it's a very intense campaign. Yes, absolutely. It really is. And because it is like long going, you kind of need to know sort of what is going on. You need to be able to remember.

Your own motivations. Which I'm excited to after. After possibly six months. What the hell was that? Because it's not just a matter of, how many arrows does Pip Mandarin have? It's like, we're emotionally. What is my relationship with this?

Yeah, oh, we're emotionally. I know. We're in my, the Pip Mandarin quote unquoteipp Mandarin, quote unquote redemption arc, am I? You know what I mean? To be able to pick up immediately where you left off. I know. That stuff's tricky. I remember, like, you know,

I think it was like towards the end of like the last campaign, the last season. It was this kind of thing of like, oh yeah, hey, okay, cool. When we get back on it, like maybe like, you know, go really hard, like heck they go really aggressive at this one character. Yeah. Because they've said this one thing, like, okay, cool. We're gonna like, you know, go hard on them and like, you know, just kind of, you know, go really hard, like hectic or really aggressive at this one character Yeah, because I've said this one thing like okay cool

I'm gonna like, you know, go hard on them and like, you know, just kind of slick, you know do that and before we hit You know record I'm like editing the previous like session where you know, it's like, oh wait. No, hang on No, no, no, that doesn't make city sense. Yeah Hang on. Absolutely. Yeah, the other way around hang it a second Unless you're thinking about it constantly and getting a constant reminder and again, you know This is this is the nature of the beast like we're doing this we're doing plumbing We're doing bassless. We're doing beyond the map like a bunch of stuff There's a lot of things to pay attention to and keep track of and if life gets in the way, too

I remember as well. There was a conversation you and I Joel we were having where you were getting as Hector But I think also maybe as Joel you were get there was a character, she was getting a bit, not as Marolda, Eileen. Yeah. Eileen? Iona. Thank you, oh my god. We're talking the same character.

Oh my god, six months from now I got it. Oh, is this the same? Yes, I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then we also had, I don't know if you remember this as well, and this is just like, again, we sat down, we had a day of recording and then we you were editing and you were like You know the stuff we did the previous session. We did exactly the same stuff. We've actually repeated ourselves

Yeah, we're stupidish Never mind that whole day of recording in the bin and that's just because you know you Something you got to do every day or at least something in a multiple times a week and it happens a million times Yeah, regular D&D game, but you don't notice this stuff. Absolutely So something I've heard that this is not my quote, but I think it's very true. I've heard it said People tend to remember closed circles. Yes, forget Open ends. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, which kind of goes back to the remastering of Jaren's exactly It's like when you get someone who has you know open dead ends. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah. Which kind of goes back to the remastering of Jaren's album. Yeah, exactly.

It's like when you get someone who has, you know, with fresh ears having a listen to that and they can listen to the whole thing and be like, oh yeah, these threads, they kind of went nowhere so that we can just nix them and you'll be none the wiser, which is kind of, you know, sure, it's not a great job. Oh, an incredible job.

You just can't tell. Picking up those things that were like, oh yeah, no, this wasn't actually needed. And it was actually quite surprising. I wish I could have had the numbers exactly in front of me, but like the amount of like, you know, minutes or like, oh yeah, no, this wasn't actually needed. And it was actually quite surprising. I wish I could have had the numbers exactly in front of me, but like the amount of like, you know, minutes or like he actually cut, I was like, that's impressive. Like for sure.

And it just doesn't really seem like anything is missing. I gotta tighten my stories. So yeah, so also by the by, there is also another Gnomesmas special. Yes, that's true. I'm so excited for this one. Oh my God. 2024, that's how you say the year.

2024. 2024. 2024 Gnomesmas special, which is gonna come out on the, not Ognot feed. Because it is not canon. Yes. You better hope it's not. Yeah, this was a real, look, they're always crazy. It's a five- Because it is not canon. Yes. You better hope it's not. Yeah, this was a real, look, they're always crazy, the Noblesmith specials,

but you're gonna understand how personal this one became. This one was insane. I fell off my chair multiple times. Yes. In shock. That'll be starting on December 21st. We'll be daily until then. The last episode will be of course airing on Christmas It's beautiful present for you. Yeah for all you if you are an imagination

Adventure subscriber. Yeah, of course. We'll also have it available as a digital download Grab it and help support. Yeah, all you ever listen to is this channel update and no and help support. Solo? If all you ever listen to is this channel update and gnomesmas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, cause you know, obviously we- You know those people scanning podcasts for channel updates? Oh, I'm a channel update freak.

I'm a channel update guy. I love a channel update. I love knowing. How mysterious if you had no context for any of this. But yeah, sorry, please. Oh yeah, as I said, yes, so that's coming out, I think this week, I don't know what date it is, sure. Or it's already out, I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know, but hey, sign up to Imagination Adventures or purchase it from the website. We appreciate, I mean, like, you know, that's what makes, that's what allows us to do all of this stuff, to give you this content, is when you buy those digital downloads or you sign up for all of the bonus content that we do.

And there's so much good bonus content that we do. And there's so much good bonus content on there. It's gotta get some fricking eyeballs on it. And also when you sign up and do all this kind of stuff and you're helping support us, you're actually helping feed my child. Yeah, exactly. You don't want that Johnny baby.

Come on, man. I'm gonna melt the feed. It's so real. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, guy. It's so real. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, guy. It's taking a cross-haul, like the imagination adventures. There's another Bobby Hager.

Yes, there's another Bobby Hager game for, yeah, it's been completed, it just needs to be edited. I think it's some of my best work, personally, as a DM, I think it was really good. Yeah, it was phenomenal. It was an incredible little detective adventure. A lot of great moments where I'm like, holy shit. He's like, this is a clever sum. This is freaking guys. Tell me a freaking story.

So yeah, that'll be out, you know, very early on in the new year. Um, if, if you sign up, um, yes. And I guess to sum up what's going to happen for the, the sort of foreseeable future for D&D is for nerds. You are as soon as possible probably going to get the Jaren's Outpost remastered, which is a brand new completely remastered version of Jaren's Outpost hustle and rumble, abridged with sound effects, music, improved audio. It's incredible.

That's gonna be next. After that, you'll be getting a Sir Grace game. I don't know if we have a title for it yet necessarily. We have maybe a working title, but we have nothing set in stone. So you're going to be getting a Sir Grace game that's going to give you a little bit of background on what Sir Grace is doing, what he's up to, where the world is at. Can we give the working title? Is that allowed? Is that legal? Yeah, that's legal.

State of Grace? Yes, so State of Grace will be coming after the Jaren's Outpost remaster. And then after that, possibly depending on where things are, we'll be getting back to Barovia. But if not, there will be a bunch of other related sort of Fairburn Point games that we have kind of in the works, sort of ready to go if we need them. Yeah, I guess for like long term listeners of D&D is for nerds, I guess the Merchant of Great Birth 3 campaign.

Yes, the Alxotha Tales. Where it was just kind of like one central event that happened and then those sort of I guess D&D is for nerds. The, I guess the Merchant of Great Birth III campaign. The Alxotha Tales. Where it was just kind of like one central event that happened and then those sort of spinning different like, you know, things that were related to that. Absolutely. That is sort of like the idea if my time is.

Is still. Wow. Yeah, absolutely. Well, you know, what I hear is the babies get real easy as they go. I know, look, he's kind of. The terrific toons. Oh, that's what I hear, that's what I hear. the babies get real easy as they go. Yeah, I know. Look, he's kind of... The terrific twos.

Oh, that's what I hear. That's what I hear. The wonderful ones. Look, I'm not... Terrific twos. It's crazy. Thrilling threes. I'm not even thinking about one or two or three.

I'm thinking he gets to six kilos. Because I'm like, he's currently five point something, whatever. When he gets to six kilos, apparently they sleep better. Whoa. So their stomachs are better. The heavier they get the sleepier they are. I'm sleepy all the time, and I'm more than six kilos My belly is real big It's apparently at the six kilos the stomach It's a little bit bigger which means he's like a little bit fuller for longer

Which means he's not gonna wake up as much at night which means maybe we get to sleep. That's exciting. So I'm excited So I'm like fatten up boy Just about to say manja manja. I need to imagine anytime you're feeding Johnny baby to be like eat Why you so little He's like no no no no no he's in like them like, you know, the 90% like the 90% or whatever. It's so skinny baby. Yoghurt him, yucky. Need some fat on those jeans.

I've always wanted a fat baby. Johnny baby need more lard. Lard for baby. What you do is you get the breast milk and you mix it with like some lard to really just fatten him. Cut your breast milk with lard. Greasy, greasy breast milk.

That's fucking awesome. But yeah, so that's hopefully what the future of the D&D's for Notes channel is gonna look like. And of course, the complete remastered Jaren's Eye Post will also be available as a digital download to help, I guess, yes, support the making of this board game. Yeah, absolutely. And once again, if you go in the show notes, you'll find yes, support the making of this board game. Yeah, absolutely.

And once again, if you go in the show notes, you'll find a link to the Kickstarter where you can follow us so that you'll be alerted when the Kickstarter launches. Again, we're looking for a thousand people. That's not many. That's, we could do it. We're already at like 600?

Yeah, 600 and change. You could do it. You could do it after this channel update. You could make it happen. You could do it right now. Pause, critically, return. Don't pause. Do it while you're listening. Do it while you're listening.

Multitask. Multitask. I don't trust them. I don't trust them to do that. I'm scared, but I'm also scared the second they pause, they'll get distracted. They'll get distracted. They'll pause, they'll hear a dog outside and be like, I don't know if a dog. We have done polls about this and the average Sands Pants radio listener is very easily distracted

Yeah, I saw a thing I think I was on reddit and it was like POV like never get me to record your proposal Yeah And it was someone like recording their friend like proposal and they hear something and they look over and the camera follows And there's a fence and behind that there's a little raccoon. Yeah, and he's like, oh hey little boy what's going on? The raccoon's there and I'm like, yeah, show me that raccoon And they're like, oh no, and the boy was going, the raccoon's there. And I'm like, yeah, show me that raccoon. And they're like, oh no. And then they went back and they've already finished rehearsing.

And I'm like, yeah. Oh, I imagine. Well done for going back, but I wouldn't have. Listening to Science Pads Radio is like taking negative one riddle in a day. Yes. But please do follow the Kickstarter. Like it truly has been this massive labor of love

from the three of us Like you've no idea how many hours we've poured into making this a fun like be like if even if you're not a fan of D&D's For nerds, I'm not saying that you listening on But even people who don't know us who have played the board game really enjoyed it and I think it's fantastic I'm extremely proud of it. Yeah, and I would love I think you'll love it too. Tell your friends about it as well Yeah, exactly Follow us get us to that to that there. I don't have to necessarily Just the following is something. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's like genuinely

It's been very interesting playing with people who you know We demoed it with some people and they had never heard of us Yeah or the you know the podcast or anything and they're playing it. And like a big fear of mine with this game is that it is like stratagems, like an outward for just like a very complicated kind of like, what the hell is going on with this board game? Yeah, how am I?

If a game is very complicated, we refer to it as stratagems. The kind of game that obviously we use the example as well of Scythe, a great board game, if you've ever played it. And when you're initially reading about it, it's like, okay, so you can use a top row action, a bottom row action, both or neither. And when you read that without the context of the game, you're like, what it, it's like, okay, so you can use a top row action, a bottom row action, both or neither. And when you read that without the context of the game,

you're like, what the hell is going on? Okay, it is alternate history, 19th, why is this relevant? What is happening right now? There's always a big fear of, because again, I like those complicated board games, because it's like kind of how mine just kind of operates. And so when we were making this, it was this very complicated thing,

and it was sort of like paring it down, adding things, subtracting things, making things kind of operates. And so when we were making this, it was this very complicated thing. And it was sort of like tearing it down, adding things, subtracting things, making things kind of like moving parts. And it's sort of very, very concerned and worried that it's like, oh, there's too much going on. But from like, you know, people that don't really know us that well at all, they'd never knew us before, sat down and played it like, oh, actually, no, wait, no,

this is, it's pretty grateful. The amount of relief when you explain the rules to somebody and they're like, oh yeah, I get it. And you're like, really? Oh my God, thank God. And the rules to somebody and they're like, oh yeah, I get it and you're like really? Oh My god, thank god and that they finish it and they're like that was awesome And they they played it, you know in interesting new ways as well. So yeah, look, we're very proud of it We'd love if you could follow and then hey if you want to support us as well when it launches

Holy shit, that would rock. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, please do please don't just follow us Don't follow us in that when it finally launches on Follow Us. Because yeah, there'll be a retail edition and a deluxe edition. And we're hoping to kind of do some cool things, be like, all right, cool, so we're gonna make some like Kickstarter exclusive.

Yes. Like items, NPCs, those kinds of things as well. For sure. So that'll be hopefully a lot of fun for everybody involved and not at all stressful. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but no. Yeah, we're all extremely proud of it. It's fantastic Please give us a follow link in the show notes. You're also laughing at how many times he said yeah? Yeah. Yeah Yeah, leave me a frickin peanut gallery over here. Oh swearing. He's not allowed to swear in a channel update I said frickin. I said frickin. That's not a swear. That counts. No

You said so at the beginning. Frickin' doesn't count. I might have said, I don't know man. My memory shut the shit. You're using his baby brain against me. Swearing, swearing. So yes, that's the channel update. But we did ask in our Discord,

which you will gain access to the Plus Discord or the Subscriber Discord if you become an Imagination Adventures subscriber. We did ask people if they had any questions for us regarding D&D is for Nerds. So we'll go through them now. If everyone's okay. Al asks, do you think there's an audience for solo RPGs,

not as in one-on-one like the So Great series, but taking one of the games designed for journaling and having a single person narrate it? I don't fully understand this. I don't know what that is. So I think there are some solo RPGs which are designed to play by yourself. Right.

And I think Al is asking, do you think there would be ever- Like a choose your own adventure. Yeah, do you think there would be a market in doing that as a- Well, choose your own adventure novels are- They're huge. I don't know how huge they are, but they exist.

This is a genre. No, no, absolutely. I think it'd probably be the basis of a, uh, they, they would exist in a certain way, but how you produce it, like off the top of my head, I'm just thinking it would be a narrative show. Yes. So what you'd be doing is like, sure. You'd, you'd do it all.

I don't know if you'd be reacting live or rolling everything live, but at least you'd be taking it as the basis. Maybe you'd be doing it like live, whatever, but then you'd be editing it. And then you'd might want to do then you might wanna do different voices. And- For the different characters, these characters. So like there's probably a market for it maybe, because again, it depends on what-

It's like an audio book. Yeah, it's basically what you're doing is an audio book and it's a very, very- With like random chance added as a- It's interesting, it's something different, I like that. I think, I don't think we would ever do it necessarily because I think part of our strength relies on the interaction between the, you know,

everybody here at Sans Pants. So it would be, I mean, it's still, we'd probably be good if it was Solo Xamet, Solo Adam or whatever, but I think people would probably prefer it to be at least two people. But I think there's definitely a market. Old Diabet says, what's everyone's favorite character

that somebody else has played? I.e. Jackson's favorite cast character, but not his favorite of his own. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Yeah. Okay, let's see. I think my favorite character of yours, Jack, is either, like, I don't know why, but either, I was gonna say Sir Great Birth or Hooch like a Lumber.

Hooch like a Lumber was incredible. I don't know if I could even do that voice anymore. Because both just, especially Hooch, every time you spoke I just couldn't concentrate on what you were saying I was laughing too much. Because the way you could just walk up a sentence. How did he even sound? Hooch like a... was he like that? Something like that. I can't be to the going outside or the in my house. It was very summer like that. It was very of mice of men. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Absolutely, yeah, I got a lot of time for Hooch. Yeah, a lot of time for like Hooch. I like your idiots. They're very fun. I'm very good at, hey, surprise, surprise. I'm very good at playing an idiot. Ah, you know, Greg Piss. Greg Piss was great.

Yeah, yeah, good luck Greg Piss. And tell you what, listening back to the Jared's Outpost campaign, I was like, fuck man, Greg Pierce, he gets it done. Greg Pierce was the kind of thing where it was like, usually it's like, you're the idiot guy, whatever. But this like, Greg Pierce is like, he's a bit of an idiot, but he like, you know, he's, he's doing it. He's a croft.

Yeah. And so I was like, you know, you, you know, you're, you're putting your whole ass into like, you know, getting shit done, but you're still a little stupid. Yeah. Whereas like, I don't know. So great birth. So great birth. Yeah.

Just like dumb as shit. So great birth. Did he sound like this? Right birth yeah Mark okay, it's a great birth perhaps you've heard of me Fancy it was like like less of the rolling perhaps you've heard of me Anyway, I think I care about perhaps you've heard of me there it is I'm lost in oh I want to hear the real great birth like yeah for yourself I'm eating HT I'm like yeah pop Perry

of course Perry yeah oh I thought to be clever what's it is pop Perry he done, what's his name in the... Heracles Melville? Well, yeah, in Beyond the Map, but also in the Colton Worsher. Oh, he was great in Colton Worsher. Yeah, he was really good in that. Yearning de Los Angeles. Yearning de Los Angeles.

Yeah, yeah. Great character there, too. Yeah, very good. I quite liked in that Connie's character drifting snowflake. I thought was very very nice. Loved his tail. Yeah, loved his tail, loved taking his tail from him. Spoilers. Cass

Gadd is the one in the the lonely tower. Oh, yes. I just like that she forgot, like at the very end kind of forgot the last previous like days. Yeah, she forgot the adventure they had. Yeah, Fisch. It was a good name for a character too. Love that I used to know a person named fish. That's crazy. Yeah Christian name legal Christian name. Yeah, I saw her her driver's license. That's awesome She worked as a camp counselor fish her parents really loved the band. Oh She worked as a camp counselor. Fish?

Her parents really loved the band. Oh, that's even funnier. So I was gonna say, pH or F? Yeah, pH, yeah. Is it better to be named after the band fish or just the animal? I don't think either is good. Yeah, either really.

I think I would prefer to the animal. Yeah, yeah. The fish fish, not the band fish. Although I'd like also calling your kid Bird. That's what I'm thinking, that's so strange. Also good. I would be very much like, I don't know. Here's my child, fish, lizard.

Yeah, that's true. Yes, I am Mrs. Lizard. Oh, I think my favorite- I am she. Yeah, one of my favorite characters of yours, Zammet, is Daryl. I can't remember his last name. Daryl.

But I truly love Daryl. And I love imagining, I don't know when we talked about it But I love imagining Darrell who spoilers for Northern Bounty became a werewolf at the end of the game In the world where he did I always loved the idea of him going to Barovia Yeah, he was such a comedic the original plan We'd spitball that was fit for there that was spitballed for a while. Like post, like hecking. I think so.

But I just, I think that's such a funny cause Brovure is such a serious place. And the arrows would have just been like, oh crap. Yeah. Oh no, what's going on? Fuck man, what are we doing? We're in real trouble. I love-

Whale Wolf and a Singlet, awesome look. I liked the, I think it was where we got all those different puppies. Yeah. I'm just there quietly, whatever. And then Adam asked something and then I'm like, okay, I'm named them. And like, you've already named them?

Like, yeah. And like, let's list them all off. That was awesome. And at one point we have to fight like a big snow thing. Yeah, as a two-headed snake creature. And then it's just like, we'll give them one. Give them the puppies. Maybe two, which one's our card?

You gotta choose. I think you have to give them all the puppies, save one, I think. No, we gave him a lot of puppies. We definitely kept at least, I wanna say four. Yeah. There's definitely a budget, like he said, it was very funny.

Who I also, obviously I love, what was the name of your character in, in Hustle From A Pride? How have I forgotten his name? Edrick. Edrick. I also love Ed love what was the name of your character in? In in house from a pride how I forgot his name Edrick I also love edrick and hector. I think I think was good. I quite like that You've got such a knack for it's a thing. I cannot do for playing interesting good characters I do not have that ability. Yeah, I can't find what makes a morally good or like a lawful good character interesting I we had a come we're having a conversation currently because there's a series I or like a lawful good character interesting I we had a come we're having a conversation currently because there's a series I'd like to do a world of darkness series for Beyond the

Map where it's because I have a recurring character. Yeah, Tom is a recurring Yeah, and I wanted to give you a recurring character and my original plan for it was kind of like a Saturday morning Yeah, kind of you know hero type character and And we had like the first conversation with it. I immediately, you weren't like outright saying no, but immediately I was like, oh, Jackson does not want, Jackson does not want to do that. It's not even that I don't want to, it's just that it's so hard for me.

It's like, it's such an uphill battle for me to, I'm just really bad at it. But I think you're amazing at it. I think every, like, when I think about the awesome moral complexity of Hector, I'm like, fuck man, that's good role play. That's what might help, Jeff. If you have a mate, it's just kind of like,

again, playing this with Edrick and with Hector, I always find it's kind of like, when is the point of giving up? Yeah, yeah. It's like, because giving up is always that that option and they always want to take it. And they always just want to be like, I've had enough. Yeah. I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah. I need to leave. And I don't, and then it's like, but if I leave, will that make things. Yeah. And so that's what I really like.

That rocks. Both those characters. What I really love about like the husband of pride campaign, is that, that, that notion. And I guess it either happened either accidentally or just one of those magical happenstance. But the theme was just like, the more you try to do your best, the more you may. Yes, absolutely.

And I love that. And I love at the very end, he's just like, the best move for me is not to play. Yeah. I don't like that with the Edric. That's so cool. It's that kind of thing for a good character. Yeah.

If it helps. No, no, absolutely. I think that's very useful. I quite like you, both of you and Joel Duescher. I don't know if I would necessarily classify these as different characters. I mean, I think maybe Jack, for you, all of these are different characters

because you portray them very differently, but you, Zamet and Joel Duescher, you both play very, I feel like it's kind of, you're playing the same seed of a character each time time your characters in all of the place life ruin game. Yes What's funny because you guys are different day? I think they have the same seed every time I Character's play road is rich casino. Yeah Bury me in a little boy funeral.

Each of them have like a little catchphrase that differentiates them. Give me a little boy's funeral. That's so funny. I'm so funny. I don't laugh harder at anything than I laugh at the... Yeah man. Which we... Oh wow Johnny... I mean there's so many other things we got to do. The thing is though, when it comes down with Johnny baby, it's like finding like right now, like finding an hour and an hour and a half or whatever to record this relatively easy, finding a multiple day several weekends, which is kind of why it's like, look,

Barovia, we don't want to do like, we'll do a day here. Oh, hey, don't worry. Don't worry. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Because then you just play your flash rule and we can, you know, you can knock that out in three hours because we don't worry. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Cause then you just- Like a place slash ruin, we can, you know. You can knock that out in three hours. Because we ain't surviving. Sure, yeah. You don't, well, obviously Adam, you don't- What about this for a place slash ruin lineup? Cass Hayden, you.

Don't do that to me, dude. I think you'd enjoy it. No swearing, no swearing. No swearing. Oh, fuck. We have questions, that's right. Lewis Wood says, I swear. I swear. I swear. I swear. I swear. I swear. I swear. I swear.

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because you just have to start him at like negative five and be like, get back to zero. We have a theory for a heist game that might happen sometime. At some point in the future. That's definitely been something we've discussed for years. We've got so many other things to do. It's not been recorded, but it's, you know, it's something we've discussed for years. We've got so many other things to do. It's not been recorded, but it's, you know,

it's something we'd like to do. But I definitely, I would, if I could pick any character, I mean, maybe it's the obvious option, but I would love to return to Greg Pierce. I think we had this idea at the end of, I think, Northern Bounty, with like, the Arrol and Chet Faker. Yeah, that's right.

The Arrol and Chet's right. Because like, Chet Faker died, but it was like, love the idea of Chet Faker reincarnating as a kobold. And just that scene of Daryl finding that out or whatever. I get how do you find that out? But just somehow he's clued in.

Going into a kobold, like a hovel. Head above everyone else. And just being like, you know, Chet, Chet! I'm here! I'm here! I don't know what's happening. Like Chet, really cutting in with all, why am I like this? Where am I?

I'm coming to God now, my boy, what did you do? And then Daryl and Chet, Chet is a tiny little cobbled who doesn't want to be a cobbled. That is good. I like that idea. I've also had the idea of like doing another Merchant of Great Birth. Oh yeah. And I think I figured out, you know, I think we have discussed this on there of like doing another Merchant of great birth. Oh, yeah, and I think I figure out you know

I think we have discussed is on there like how we could actually do that Yeah, and I really like that idea because I really like again Those characters at a certain point. Yeah, I very again may be hard to do because one got killed by a bear and one got Blowed up. This is true. Yeah, but I think I've you know, man all that comic book Marvel I think of you know, big man all that comic book Marvel Man preps me for so much garbage. Yeah, but I reckon I got like a way we could Okay, I'd have to renail the accent My clothes Never lost it but yeah, that's one I'd like to I think that those two It's fine. Took a late birth. There it is. Yeah. Out of the entire time. You still have it.

You've never lost it, but dude. But yeah, that's one I'd like to... I think that those two I think would be very funny to go back to and... Yeah, I think yeah, the doing like more Jaren's Outposts kind of like... City kind of. We have not really... An urban game in a while. Again, I like the city urban game and Jaren's Outposts is a really cool thing that we've already pretty established. Sure, yeah.

As well as how like, you know, what the hell, like, you know, the first periwinkle? Yeah, yeah. How does he govern that area? Absolutely. For sure. Does he know what's going on? Yeah, he truly, it was unexpected that he became in charge of the city, yeah. As for the second part, I don't know. I'll let you know how, when I figure out how to maintain a canon.

Fair enough. Captain Co says with the helm crew. We've had a series of multiple stories following the same party members Which are the previous D&D is for nerds character or parties? Would you want to tell a multi-chapter story about a really interesting thing? Just reading that right then is that this is not the first time we've done this If you recall, yeah both Jaren's Outpost and Northern Bounty, not Northern Bounty, House of Armor Pride, were kind of the first version of this where two characters from one game went off and had their own game. So we've kind of done it in the past.

Yeah, getting distracted by something. I guess I have so much fucking dandruff all of a sudden. What the fuck? Sorry, go on. It could be plaster from the ceiling. Okay, maybe it's plaster. Yeah, we're making holes in the ceiling. Well, not we. I've not done any holes in the ceiling. Okay, maybe it's plaster. Drilled into the air. Yeah, we're making holes in the ceiling. Well, not we. I've not done any holes in the ceiling.

There's one piece of destruction I'm not involved in. I think other characters we should have done. Well, I mean, another thing that I think that we initially had plans to continue on more like directly that we will at some point, but it's just kind of gone in the back burner is like the gloom and all of that sort of- There's a whole end of the world happening. That particular plot line for D&D's For News, which is still happening, but we-

His name's Shane? Shane, yeah. Yeah, the knight of castry I play. Yeah, that's right. Fuck you, we're a knight of castry. Yeah, with Shanks. Yes, L We're in Night of Castery. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was Shanks. Yes. It was Shanks.

Lilla. I was trying to remember a different game. I didn't realize you were talking about Buried Beneath. I was trying to think, if you played a character named that in a different game that we did about The Gloom. I believe I did. What a great name, unintentional. I didn't even really think, name it after me. It's good though. I didn't even think, The Gloom is such a great name for it.

It's awesome. So spooky. Again, when years ago as it were, the idea of like the prologue to I guess anything we were doing with that, I would love to have like Shane going up to like, I guess, I don't know how it works in your world, the council of like the Knights of Caster and whatever. And just like basically be like like so this is what's happened This is what happened and blah blah and it's like laying it out And so we need to act and then just pick well, you know, we don't even like don't believe you

Yeah, like you know, there's like yeah. Yeah. Well, he's well he couldn't do that. He's been destroyed. Remember? No, Shane's alive Oh Shane Are you thinking of anton de sorcier and no I'm sorry, I'm here. Are you thinking of Anton De Saucer? No, I thought you were saying Gloom himself? No, no, no, no. Going up to the council of the Knights of Castrail or whatever that is. And then just being like, you know, hey, we need to act because it's going to be a thing.

And it's like, you know, wow, we've got other problems that we're sorting out. That's a pretty minor problem. How long is it going to take? Brother. Brother Duke. That can go on the back, bro. Brother, we're hearing about this Sir Grace character. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And like, oh yeah, we could be, oh hey, we could even tie that in there. Yeah. But I can't believe it. It's happening at the same time. Which I think it'd be a cool kind of like, that's the kind of setup to be like, we need to be acting now, why aren't we doing anything?

Blah, blah, blah, smash cut a thousand years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell yeah, that rocks. You know, like the fall of the Elven wilds, like, you know, those kinds of things. Cause I love those ideas of like- Sanding of the seas. Yeah, like, you know, just doing these kind of-

People don't know what the, people don't really know, you guys know, cause we did the Pirates game together, but people don't really know what's going on. Exactly. I broke to the Pirates game. Yeah, yeah, well. Say love you.

It was talk of resurrecting it, I remember. It was talk of resurrecting it. I'll believe it when I see it. But there was talk of resurrecting it. Well, talk of resurrecting it. I'll believe it when I see it. Again, getting back to like, you know, hey, how much you remember, how much you lead, and whatever. The idea of like, because I think they're somewhere. I can't find the files. They exist. But you gotta remember, that was...

I wouldn't mind another crack at it. Every single time we do another crack, I feel like it gets a bit better. Burevi was better the third time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it truly was. a good stuff in what is better in their initial parts I would like hate to lose it, but you gotta remember it's nearly 200 hours of content that happened five six But like again love to you know, maybe Do that subscribe to imagination adventures by That's how you get the Pirates game, okay? You're like, Joel, you're like, we'll lose all of those cool moments.

Joel, we'll make new ones. We'll make new memories. Okay, Okaba asks, over the last eight years of doing D&D is for Nerds, how do you feel about the series as a whole? Any changes over the years that you like? Anything you used to do that you would like to start doing again? Anything you didn't like about making the series that you now wish you never did, anything you would like to do but are having a hard time working into it.

Basically, what are your thoughts on D&D's for NERDS as a whole? Okay. I would like to do everything one more time at least. Every single season. From the beginning. Pretty much. Fucking Kriff Pompom Kriff. I think it gets a bit better every iteration.

I genuinely do. You're probably right. Yeah, yeah, fair enough. I think, I a bit better every iteration. I genuinely do. You're probably right. Yeah, yeah, fair enough. I think, I don't know, there was this push and pull at the start, because I like those interconnected things. Because if you listen back to the auticus, it starts with basically the camera following Leo and Brif, and then it kind of pans to someone else.

And that's kind of the absolute wank I love. Yeah, sure. And I think that was very early on, you know, the absolute wank I love. Yeah, sure. And I think that was very early on, like I think, you know, it's like, hey, Adam, why can't we pull this thread? And like, you know, it's like, oh, an offhanded thing mentioned in like, again, season one, why don't we follow those characters instead? I like that kind of stuff. But then, you know, Marvel movies kept happening. Yeah. And man popped up in like the Falcon or whatever the vice versa. Yeah. And it was like, yeah, fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. Nevermind.

And so like, again, but that's coming from my, you know, comic book. Background kind of. I still try to insert the Falcon into every season we do and Xamac keeps taking him out. Cutting room floor. I don't know, I like that as a concept, but again, it's like, you know,

how do you do that as an execution? And like, we sort of went away from that bit more when it's like, you know, how do you do that as an execution and like we sort of went away from that Bit more when it was like, you know starting to kind of like not having things so directly. Yeah, sure It's a lot better. Yes. Yeah, I think maybe doing that from the very start would have been nice To do that. Yeah Probably not killing off a certain Wonderfully annoying cat. Yes became the mascot for the series despite appearing in two seasons One where he gets unceremoniously hucked into a well

Movies, I feel like chat about that cat has died down Sorry, it's gonna start up again It's the striseland Stries land Yeah striser strays and strays and yeah, right and what like Tarzan Strys-land. Yeah, welcome to Strys-land. Strys-an. Strys-an. Like Tarzan. And what? Oh, ha ha.

Peanut Gallery, swearing! Go on. In terms of, I guess, more recent stuff, I think there's probably a... Personally, the Grey Hill one we did in the main feed, it's a bit long in the tooth and it feels probably longer in the tooth

because it is 30 minute episodes. But I honestly think it's a pretty decent cut there. If you, yeah. You could probably get rid of that middle season and you'd be fine. And a bridged version. Yeah, I think there's a really good abridged version there when we weren't just laying down the tracks in front of us. I think that gets laid down at the feet of,

speaking of laying things down, I think that gets laid down at the feet of speaking and playing things down. I think that gets laid down at the feet of Big T sometimes. Yes. I think it's quite unfair. Yeah, I think Big T rocks. I think I was the one who definitely could have tightened that up. There are long stretches. No, I don't understand. If I had to speak as the person who did the first edit.

Yeah. If I had to speak to the problems, and I think it's still a great campaign, but I think it's just, it's one of those situations where you, you know, sometimes with the D&D's for Nose campaign, often these days we go in with a plan, but sometimes we don't, sometimes we go in and we're like, let's just see what happens basically. And I think that was a weird hybrid of the two where you initially were doing a sort of, this is the plan.

And then it became a see what happens. And then it, but it has a killer ending. You gotta admit. I think the first season, yes, you are. The first part of that, like, you know, you can kind of cut into three gotta admit. I think that the first Three parts, which I think we end up doing yeah like the feeds But like the first part is really good and third part is real good It's a middle season that kind of is a bit lag well this is why I think a lot of it actually should be laid at my feet because I think a lot of that second season drags out because

I decided that it's fun to just entertain my friends and give them nice things That is lovely, but it doesn't listen well. Again, it was a very good thing. And again, it could be on like, you know, the editors. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We could have like really started like, you know, hoeing that in. But again, we were like laying down the tracks in front of us and almost like, you know, by the time. But there's like that campaign, like we started as goobers.

We wanted to make like characters. We wanted to do season one and two again. Yeah, exactly. From memory. Yeah, and so I was like, let's just make some like, you know, silly little goobers and whatever. And like, you know, we go to camp, we go out of camp. We got some like-

Little funny adventures. Characters that are there. But then it's just like, you know, we sort of had to end up with like, you know, at some point being like, this is a bit rudderless. So being on like, me as like the gloppel druid, to be like, what if I went on like a spirit journey and tried to kind of have a bit more of like pathos there.

I don't know how much that worked well. I think I've spoken about this on House Rules, but some characters, you know. He was a mayfly. Yeah, some characters are mayflies. Some characters are designed for eight episodes. Some are designed for 100. Some are designed for 30.

And he was a character designed for eight episodes who had to live the 30 episode lifestyle. 100%. And there was one, I think there was like a gameplay decision that I really did not like that we did, which was, yeah, you, Adam. Yeah, this guy. This guy here.

I think Greyhilt was bad because me. Yeah. I do think that. I think it was like, I don't was like it was on camera on micro off my But like when we leveled up you got each of us to make decisions for the other characters. Yeah, that was bad Especially like again, it's that kind of like especially when it comes to sort of like the the gameplay aspect I know a little bit more than cast does yeah, that's a point where it was like I was an idiot More than cast does yeah, we got to a point where it was like I was an idiot

Beautifully messed you both up has cast made bad decisions for you and you made good decisions for her that she couldn't capitalize But like it was when I was a spider-boy yeah, and then it was just like ah cool And then when we level up we're an audio medium sweet I'll take you know if we can make it take the feet so I have yeah that but please so at least I can Talk to castle yeah, not be a weird just like as an audio medium and I tap the ground for yes But then I think yeah, I didn't either convey it before and then when we were doing it and then just missed the opportunity I was like ah

Could have been a talking spider Yeah man And so that was a very very very frustrating campaign in many different in many different ways. Yeah for sure, but I think like the ending kind of yeah It brought it together and then I think there were parts that I loved Absolutely with the gambling. Oh the frog god rock dude again that whole first part the first kill second God is the frog gods like the climax of season one Yeah, yeah, like that's's way later in my head, I really, really like really loved that.

Cause that was the intentional ending. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that's the frog god and then we're gonna go to the Capitol and deal with, you know, Sir Grace. That was gonna be the, you know, intentional ending. But then COVID blew out. Yeah. We didn't wanna start another campaign

and I was still dealing with life stuff. So I kind of couldn't come back and it was like, well, okay. We'll do another season. Cause we haven't finished the ending. It's like, we can keep going. And then, but you started another season. You've started a new narrative arc and yeah. And it was just kind of like,

but there's that Gollum chase. That's actually really funny. Yeah. The Gollum chase is awesome. Is that the one where Cass? We split up. Cass does some insane shit where she like, she has like, Dude, you gotta narrow that down.

Turns into a horse and carrier. Yeah, she turns into a horse and carriage, but like upside down or some shit. Anyway, I would say for me personally, like how D&D is for Nerds has changed is, in the beginning it was like, oh, let's just play. And like, I don't know how people feel about this kind of like gradual change to the show, but you know,

in the beginning we were like, let's just play D&D and have fun. And then I think over time we were like, oh, we can tell really interesting stories with really interesting characters. And so I really like where D&D is for nerds is now. I love a stupid campaign. Like, that's why I love, you know, being in the further adventures of the Greyhawks Free Company and being like 50 chickens or the corn night. But I get so much more out of being like Pitt Mandarin or Sir Grace or something, you know,

in the current form where we can really tell like an interesting fantasy story. That's so much fun for me. Yeah. Graham J asks a question for Adam. How much storyboarding do you do at the beginning of each of the current campaigns considering how wide the story has gotten? Where do you wanna take the story when this story arc is over, future or past?

When will we get to hear more about the original Greyhill cast? I do no storyboarding because I can't draw. Gotcha. I typically, the way I do it is, well, yeah, typically for the main feed, the way I do it is I will write Act 1, maybe Act 2 of the story, but I won't have Act 3 finished until I know kind of where things are going as well until session one is over. Yeah, Phil. Yeah. So I know I'll have an idea of where I want things to go.

Like I'll know what I think I'm going to write about act two or three, but I just won't commit anything until I think it's very similar to how I think it's similar on my part, but I don't think it's going to be like, I don't think it's going to three, but I just won't commit anything Until I think it's very similar to how I think it's similar on my end as it is to the player I think that you don't find your character until you're a few I don't think I really know what I'm doing with the story until a few sessions Yeah, which I think is also why like you have this idea of like I want to read her

Yeah, once you've once you've got a bit into it you're like I should have done that for this guy I should have done that for this guy. Maybe I think I'm just better now than I was Oh absolutely, big time, I think we've all improved We're all growing, we're all growing Um, were there any other parts of that? Did I answer every part of that question? Yeah, pretty much Oh wait, where are you gonna, after the Sir Grace arc has ended, where's next? Well, we should really end the world.

That's, we've been threatening to do that for a while. It's been on the cards for a long time. I feel like the next part of that would be, and I think when the Sir Grace Arc is done, I think we will probably, that's when the Pirates game will get, that's my prediction. Yeah. Once again, I don't have, I Haven't actually written act three on this yet. Yeah. Yeah, that is The Pirates game though is kind of for me at least the next step in the world ending campaign And I think the world ending is what I'd like to do after we're finished with grace. Yeah. Yeah

That kind of also makes sense and especially like as you know, just before I'm mentioning I, yeah, that kind of also makes sense. And especially like, as you know, just before you mentioned it, I was like, oh, you know, we could easily get tie in there with what's happening with like the gloom, so gray, so black. Yeah, absolutely. But obviously, as always, who knows? You gotta understand listeners, how much of D&D is for Nudes has just been shaped by,

oh, this big change has happened, let's pivot in this direction. I think we've spoken about it before, but the entire a helm arc Yeah began because we needed something to put in between Whatever the most recent campaign was and something else and we were like, yeah Yeah, yeah, like you know, we did that a helm thing during like so it was great for three. Yes. Yeah Yeah, it was part of that little like, you know, it, it's like oh and they're trying to do like something similar

Yeah, it's not the tails. It's like oh then this is and then it was like oh We want to redo because our first very brief attempt at at Brovia wasn't you know, we didn't love it We were like well, I guess we could include You know like why not this character is just sitting there and I'll make up a new character and they'll you know However many years later here we are and this I think maybe the last question. So L asks They say question for Sam it we know that the world of Arknut is your brainchild and Adam just likes to take credit This is true But how much development do you put in these days and then they say the serious version of this question is how much of the

World has been player generated First DM created which I think is a really interesting question because I think in the beginning D&D is for nerds was Adam would come to us with a game Mm-hmm, and then we'd play it and then I think we got more, D&D's for Nudes was Adam would come to us with a game and then we'd play it. And then I think we got more involved, probably to an annoying degree, where we were like, Adam, run this game.

Adam, run this game. But I see it these days as a very healthy balance, I think anyway, where it's extremely collaborative between every player that's part of it. And I know, and I love that I can be like, like for example, in Vampire and Festa Brovia with Keening, where I was like, hey Adam, can he be my ex-boyfriend? And you're not like, it actually doesn't fit my plan

for the game. You're like, I'll see what I can do. And then that I can just like, I can give that idea to you and I can trust you that you're gonna do something interesting with it and that vice versa. You can give something to me and dammit a seed or an idea or whatever. And that I think it's very collaborative these days,

which I personally love. Absolutely. Yeah. I don't think we butt heads as much as we used to in the first year or so. When it was just kind of like, all right, this, and then like, this is the rules of D&D. These rules are stupid, Adam. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think the one I always remember, the example I always remember of this is one of the first ever like spin-off games that we ever did Way back in the day. It's like, predates, it's the one that Merchant of Great Birth came out of, but it- Oh no, was this the first- anyway, what it's- I remember we had a guest, it was you two and a guest player. What is his name? Fonz? Fonzie? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Farina. Thank you

Um, I clearly I remember this person. That was his nickname. So you're actually okay but in that one at the end of it you're fighting a dragon, yeah, and I Very distinctly remember it was just the fight was just taking a little while because dragons are tough And I remember you getting a bit frustrated being like this is not interesting. We're just wailing on each other And me being like this the Dragons hit points That's the name of the game But I think these days in a weird way we found like it's not as though we've gone in one direction or the other Yeah, it's just it's like that happy median between you being like well

I'm gonna use the rules of the game to make for an interesting you know I think encounter or whatever. The Great Birth One's a really good example. I think it was you trying to sheath a animated sword. That's right. Because it was very funny, and that's what your character would be doing. I want this sword, but because rules of the game is like,

now everything now is in six second chunks. Yeah, that's right. Because it's all in a round. Whereas I'm like, because that's the second chunks. Yeah, that's right. Because it's all around. Whereas I'm like, because that's the rules, as written as it were. Whereas I feel nowadays, if we were doing that, you might then pull something out of your ass being like, okay, you're trying to tame a sword.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What can we- We'll figure out. Feasibly here try and do animal handling, I guess, mixed with fucking your knowledge. It's also kind of funny that like maybe you know cause how difficult it was It's kind of where some of the humor came from Sometimes it's the joke of trying to she the sword and sometimes it's the frustration of why won't this dragon die? At least the same

Same game. At least the same. Same characters. Same game. I do not remember the fighting the dragon. I think the one thing I remember about the most occurring thing was like, I think it was the Northern bounty. The trying to get, not Northern bounties, sorry, husband of pride, trying to get like, you know, the, the Paladin, elf, whatever.

Searching. Searching for them and like trying to get them to like, just took weeks. Basically like, all right, well, we go and try and do like a, either like a leaflet, like, you know, like, Hey, we're going to do a thing. It just took weeks basically. And it was like, all right, well we go and try and do either like a leaflet, like hey, we're gonna be, we wanna fight you in the Maccas car park or whatever. And you're like, it takes two weeks. And I'm like, what?

First off, no. I have no idea what you're saying. What is this? I don't remember this at all. So it was a part in a Husk Firm of Pride where we needed to do something and we wanted to do it immediately, but just by virtue of where stuff was and the distance between places.

We were trying to get the elf paladin out to have a fight. Yeah. It was an elf paladin or whatever. But anyway, it just took two weeks, which is just how long it would have taken in game. But it's always that tricky thing, I think, with D&D where it's like it takes two weeks and you're like, well, I would have stopped. Day two. Day two, I would have stopped. You're like, well, I would have stopped They to they to I would have stopped you like well, it already happened or whatever I don't really remember that

Yeah I think though this change comes with from 3.5 to fifth edition where I think you're you were saying it's kind of like a merging Of rules and narrative where I from my perspective actually, I think it's a complete letting go of rules Oh, yeah, this kind of rules for everything. And Fifth Ed, less so. A lot of the like narrative focus now comes from you. One of you will be like, I want to do this. And I'll be like, well, Fifth Ed doesn't really have rules for that. So whatever, let's just do something.

I guess. I'll just roll. And anytime you hear me talking about luck checks, it's because there's no role for this. I'm just, whatever. Well, there's no role for this. I'm just yeah, whatever Well, there is a role for it and it's just it's a yes or no basically doesn't work as it not Yeah, I guess yeah nowadays, but I'm gonna see for sure Well, you've done this for four times in a row now. Let's make the lecture. Yeah. Yeah, exactly

Absolutely. But yeah, so yeah, it's a it's it's much more collaborative these days I think well, hopefully that that answered your questions and just once again, let me just give you that reminder, baby, about what's next for D&D is for nerds. You are gonna- Do not hit the skip button. Don't hit the skip button yourself. Listen to this. Listen to this.

You're gonna get a remastered Jaren's Outpost next. After that, you will get a State of Grace, a Sir Grace campaign showing sort of the background of what's happening there Then hopefully after that Joel's am it will be D baby Take it back. I take it back. The baby will have calmed down and he'll be freer and we can return to Barovia If not, we'll be doing more fair burn point campaigns your adventures surrounding Fairburn Point.

The Jaren's Outpost campaign is partially to promote our Kickstarter for the Jaren's Outpost board game. So please, the link is in the show note, jump on there, we need 1,000 people, we want 1,000 people following. So before we launch, we'd love if you could follow to find out, get all the updates and be notified when it does launch

You can also head to I think it's just Jaren's outpost calm. It's a website. I was yes I was gonna say just do or type this into your web browser Yeah, we're gonna make it as easy as possible for you to find this. Yeah, it's the website Jaren's outpost calm And you can have a look there. There's some like, you know previews of art. There's some character stuff there There's a couple of at least that one things called like the Ballad of Greg Pierce, a song that has been made for it. Because again, this is the kind of stuff we want to kind of do with the Kickstarter. It's like, you know, enough people sign up, enough people follow, enough people do these kind of things, we can kind of do some dumb shit.

Yeah, exactly. Like, hey, can we do a vinyl printing of like songs inspired by Jaren's albums? Yeah, absolutely. You know, those kind of things as well. You want an authentic pair of cement shoes that Greg Piss wore after the Halfling families caught him. Yeah, so like, yeah. Fundership. Is that a little epilogue?

Is that? That's what happened to Greg Piss in the end. He drowned in the sea. So yeah, so yeah, jarenzoutpost.com. There are some blog posts there about the making of the game, which I really should update and add more. They're just, they're sitting there in draft. Yeah.

There will be updates. There will 100% be updates, but there is also some stuff that you can listen to. I mean, listen to watch, read. That's the, the- The eyes one. The eye one, yes. Oh, that's also watching.

Damn, damn, swearing. Swearing. I think that if you're intrigued by how a board game or even just design changes, and one of the ones up there is the evolution of the player board, which is really fascinating, at least from my perspective, where it started and where it ended and why we made some of those changes.

Yeah, so go on there, there should also be a link to the tabletop simulator if that's what you enjoy doing. Get a sense of the game and see if it's the kind of thing that's up your alley. I think it fricking will be. And yeah, once again, we also have the Gnomesmas special coming out. If you subscribe to Imagination Adventures,

or you can just get the digital download from our site. It's a beautiful one this year. Genuinely a beautiful heart-heart. It's truly pretty magical. Magical, come to the disclaimer. Yes, it comes with an incredible disclaimer. Come to the disclaimer, not for you. Not for the listener, for the players and the DM kind of.

Well, I didn't need the disclaimer, I just needed the reminder. But the disclaimer includes you. It's a reminder for me. That's true. Truly a beautiful, beautiful story. So check that out for some Christmas cheer. And also, you know, hey, thanks for listening

for the last eight years. Obviously without you listening, we could never have done this and we would never be able to invest so much time in- Eight years? I think it might be more, man. I think it's a decade, buddy. One guy in the Discord said eight,

so that's where I got that from. I think it's a decade. We've certainly known each other for a decade, but have we been releasing for a decade? No, we've known each other for- Well, me and you have known each other longer than- Yeah. Yeah, obviously, Adam. We've known each other for a decade, but have we been releasing? Nah, we've known each other for... Well, me and you have known each other longer than... Yeah, obviously Adam.

Obviously. I don't know what this guy's saying. Anyway, I'm trying to do a sincere thank you, and the fucking peanut gallery is coming in here being like, Well actually, Jackson, what, eight years? Am I a Statler or a Waldorf, do you reckon? I don't know hold off your frog Yeah, yeah about ten years ten you well legitimately this is a legitimate sincere

Thank you for listening all these years and supporting us like that That's fucking amazing that you have invested your time and you know for those of subscribe and people bought digital digital downloads and merch and come to live shows your money too like that's incredible and yeah I just want to give a sincere thank you to everybody that's listened. Genuinely thank you. You go out you know you earn a living you do your things and then you're like actually these idiots these knuckle fucks over here that are just you know doing little yucks over whatever. Yeah goofing around on each other. There's a couple dollars their way. Exactly. You've got no idea how much we appreciate it just makes it all worth it, so thank you. Thank you. Thank you and on that note. I've been Jackson Bailey

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