De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - An X-Rated Episode

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

Happy Thursday! Let's start off with a disclaimer! If you have small children around maybe don't listen to this one out loud, or perhaps grab some headphones. We're talking about Dani's recent diagnosis for when Jordan's not acting himself and that name of this diagnosis definitely has an age requirement. Plus, we're getting a little political this episode so bear with us as we try to articulate what we're thinking.  Finally, we have a message for Dani's pumping post haters that you won't want to miss.  Oh and the reality tv saga continues... Plus we scored some great deals with a few of our favorite brands for our listeners: We've worked out a special deal with Hiya for their best selling children's vitamin. Receive 50% off your first order. To claim this deal you must go to hiyahealth.com/DANIAUSTIN. This deal is not available on their regular website. Visit premierprotein.com and go to Where to Buy to find a retailer near you or to find where to buy online. Visit JustThriveHealth.com and use code DANI for 20% off your first 90 day bottle. That's like getting a month for free! To Spring Into Action and help American farms with every purchase, visit goodranchers.com now and remember to use my code DANI to get free meat for a year and $40 off. Take proactive care of your vaginal health and head to OPositiv.com/DANI or enter DANI at checkout for 25% off your first purchase. Make sure you’re subscribed to our official channel on YouTube, @deinfluencedpodcast, and follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your De-Influenced fix! Stay connected with us on Instagram and TikTok @deinfluencedpodcast, and as always thank you for being a part of this journey.  XOXO,  Dani and Jordan

The following podcast is a dear media production. Hello, and welcome back to your favorite podcast. D. What? Oh, I'm so sorry. What? Let's start over. Okay. D influence.

You're just going to leave me hanging there. I know I was. I'm sorry. Well, actually, I think so that, can we turn up mine a little bit? Or maybe both. Is it my voice as slow or is it? It's your, I think it's your headphones. Okay.

Hello, hello. Yeah, that's better. Mine too. Hello, hello. That's better. Yeah. Okay. Oh my goodness.

Should we start over? No, let's just roll. Let's just roll with it. Just keep rolling. It's real. It shows that we're not in this produced, overproduced studio. We're just filming this while you hold your Lola's mom cup in the de-influence room. I know.

Too sad. We did pick up Lola's ashes. She's in her eight their bed. That's where she likes to sleep. Right there. That's Hazel. Oh. It is sad because it's like.

Producers don't know whether to laugh or not. I know. It's sad because like, like I instantly cried when I got Lilith. I mean, Hazel's ashes as well. But it's like, what do you do with them? You know? Are you supposed to? They tried to sell us this urn.

And I was like. Oh, the box. Well, we have a box. But they tried to sell us like a more like you remember like meet the parents like the yeah Like a pot a clay pot yeah and I honestly I I kind of tripped up in the meeting or in the you know when I was there Because I was like I just I don't know what Danny would like decor wise And so it's tough to choose Lola's urn so I just went with a pretty safe Brown box I didn't even open it not the box but like I don't think you're supposed to

Oh, I was like, I don't think you're supposed to open. No. No, I, maybe we should go out and. Scatter them in the wind. Do people do that still? Let's think where Lola would want to be underneath our bed. She's kind of where she loves. Yeah.

The place that she. Sorry. I'm not laughing. She's right where she loves to be. Sweet, Loa. I was thinking we should take her to like behind a Taco Bell. That's right. She loves to be. You mean like where you found her. Yeah. Right. I was going to say that too. But, you know, yeah.

So sad. We have to cut this. Keep some of it in. We have to. People will laugh. People laugh. Anyway. You know, speaking of edgy jokes. Yeah.

I've been, we were just having a conversation with our producer before this. And we were talking about our view of reality. And like, we all have different algorithms. She's Gen Z. Yeah. And I was like, how do you feel about the world? And she was like, oh, yeah, I think it's doom. And I was like, really?

Because all my algorithm is feeding me is like, we are so. winning right now. Like as a country? As a country, like we're about to so win. Well, there's, what is your algorithm? You're, you're, you're, you're, I'm maha. So, you're just a bunch of, we're making America healthy again over here. So we're slaying dragons. We got that red dye out of candy. I mean, now we're talking about fluoride and water. Danny's cooking with beef tallow now. Beef tallow, magnesium, hydrogen water. So I'm really, and I'm in a place where I'm not looking outward. I'm looking inward. And I recommend all of America do that. Right. Right. So my question is, if you're maha, are you politically,

are you controversial as maha? Like, do people let you be maha without being maga? So it's hard because are they the same. People are like, this is not what we should be focused on. Health? Yeah. Like, or like these are not the biggest. issues in the world right now, which I never said that they were. But like I said, I feel like the way... But this girl had the flu 14 times. They're the biggest issues to you. Here's the thing, though. The only way we can all become healthy together is if we all focus on our individual healths, whether that's spiritually, mentally, or physically. That is so healthy of you to say. So I'm just like

everybody should look inward. But no, there's, I also see the chaos on the algorithm. Like, I saw Trump and Zelensky's as, yeah, fighting. Like, not cool. They got a little, cuckoo up in that room. Oh my gosh. Can I show you this video? Just so, oh my gosh. I sent this to my friends. You're going to die laughing. So someone took a clip of the Zelensky and Trump thing. And I'm going to let her watch it and then I'll explain it. Basically, they basically for for no one like watching this, hopefully they overlay it. But for no one watching this, they basically, for Photoshop this giant settlers a Caton board in. And it was like Trump saying, you don't have the cards. You don't have the cards. And he's like, I'm not playing with cards. And it's basically them arguing. You don't have the cards. Them arguing over settlers a Caton trade. That was, that was brilliant internet.

That's a funny meme. You know why it's even funnier. Why? So we really sad, my friend Janine of 12 years, my friend of 12 years, Janine. I just repeated myself. Did I mention? We've been friends for 12 years. Did I mention? She recently moved to Oklahoma. They announced they moved to Edmund. So sad that she left. But we had a going away party for her. And this is Janine's party.

It's a pizza party. Like the girls go all out on the decor. You know, we're all focused on Janine. Jordan brings settlers of Katon. Like the game that every single female hates, especially Janine. And he has brought this game over to every single. single friend hangout group that we have had. Yeah.

And every single time, the girls go to me and they're like, Jordan brought settlers at the time. No, it's a bit at this point. Like, listen, we never play. Our friends have never played this game with me. But I always am like, oh, you know, we're hanging out. We could play settlers. And everyone's like, no one wants to ever play settlers. So now I just bring it around as a joke.

And like, I walk into every party with this game. And truly, there's always like one person, though, at these parties. and they come up and they're like, bro, nice move. We try. Great game. Nice try. I actually don't mind playing it.

I think it's kind of fun. But last time we played it with my mom, like she gets so ficy. Yeah. It's hard. So here's the other thing. I want to go back to this Maha versus MAGA thing. I want to get slightly controversial.

So I just genuinely want to know. Are you controversial because you're Maha? I don't know. Would you say? Yeah, I mean, okay, yes, it could be controversial because of like the vaccines, like the measles outbreaks that are happening right now. Uh-huh. That could get a little controversial for sure. So tell me if this is just my algorithm lying to me.

But didn't the former director of the CDC go onto a podcast and admit that the CDC had never really like hardcore reviewed the vaccine schedule? His name is Robert Red, Red, not Redford. Robert fact checker. Robert. It was a clip just going around. I think it was a podcast that just came out. Redfield, Robert Redfield. He just came out and, you know, admitted that the CDC had not deeply investigated the vaccine schedule.

But I thought we were all on like the same page that like the CDC and who are like corrupt. See, this one, this is what I'm confused about. I thought we could talk about these things openly and then our gins. Well, I don't, I am like, am I trapped in my own reality? Here's the best thing about a podcast is we don't get live comments. You know? So like it's not popping up right now like you're wrong and you're that. So you can just talk about things like openly. Well, I will tell you one thing. Let me tell you a story. So did I tell you this this week? I found myself with one of the largest chicken supply chain consultants in the country. Can't wait to hear about this. No. So price of eggs are up, right? And I asked him, I said, man, you know chicken. Your family's chicken.

Yeah. Why are the price of eggs so high? You know what you told me? Biden slaughtered like 150 million chickens because of a potential bird flu outbreak. Fact check. So what is the bird flu? Do you remember when there's swine flu and then there was bird flu? How dangerous were these flus actually?

Good question. Do we know? We don't know. Okay. Yeah, it just. See, my thing is it seems like American obesity and like our diet is actually killing us more. You're so maha. I'm just saying like it just.

She's so maha. And it just feels like if we could get ourselves healthy, then when we get the bird flu, we would survive it. Can I tell you something about my week? So did you know that I haven't really eaten any fats in like two years? Yeah. I do know that because you eat this. same thing every day and it's very rigid and every time we go out to eat he won't eat anything because he eats before. Yeah. Let me tell you this story. So I've been trying to cut weight for

two years and it was the weirdest thing. Like I have friends who will drink like a 12 pack of beer and eat some chocolate and they look great. And I will eat just one of those pieces of chocolate and I will retain it. And I have like cut my calories down. I've been trying everything on my health journey. Well, this week, I had an incident, a little tiff, with one of my friends. And it really bothered me. Like, I was like so. Can we just tell this, right? Yeah. It's not that big big deal. So I'm taking the shower and minding my own business, listen to my praise of worship music. This has never happened. Okay. Jordan comes storming in the bathroom, throws the door open. And he's like, babe, you're not going to believe what happened. And I was like, I was kind of bracing for like,

I was like, what happened at the gym? Did you get in a fight? Does someone cut you off when you were driving? He's like, okay. So you know our friend Connor? He texted me the night before and asked me if I wanted to go skiing. And I was like, yeah, man. And then the next morning, he texted and said, never mind, I'm going with my family instead. Can you believe? leave that. And I was like, what's the problem? Like, no. And he's like, well, he asked us if we wanted to go. And then he pulled out, like so flaky. And I was like, okay, he's going with his family. It's not like he invited like his other best friends. Like, and Jordan was like had this like, visceral frustrated reaction to it. And I was like, what is going on? Like, why is he so angry

about this? Like, you literally found out the night before. Yeah. And so then I'm like, so we're talking more about it. And I'm trying to be like a good. good wife, I'm trying to ask questions. And I don't know, listen, Danny and I have been going through a lot of renewing of our spirits, our minds, our communication, our marriage. And honestly, when you're going through so much growth, I was like, oh my gosh, I'm just so tired of growing. Like, I thought that I was basically uncovering, like, like, bad stuff in me. And it was, like, coming to the surface and coming out in a visceral way. You're having to deal with your emotions. instead of being like, oh, whatever, you're like, oh, I'm upset with Connor now.

Yeah. So I was like, oh, my gosh, I just didn't know. Like, I've just been burying things that I feel. And I was like, I'm actually really mad that he didn't. He pulled out of the ski trip. Well, what really happened was I, guys. So we got out of the shower and we're talking about it more. And like, I kind of start like, you know, getting curious, asking more questions.

And like, I kind of start telling him, like, hey like babe I love you but this is not that big of a deal like and then I was like you don't understand me you're you're gaslighting me and then I was like how dare you like this means everything this is everything so then I I was like Jordan are you taking like testosterone or are you on some type of vitamin that is like affecting your mood like what's going on so then so first of all I'm Natty It's what they call it at the gym. I'm not on steroids and I'm not on testosterone.

Oh, man, you really fold us. Really? Liar. That's so funny. That was good. That was really good. No, but honestly, I, so about two weeks ago, I was talking to chatchibati, and I was like, chat chit, why can my friends drink 12 packs and eat chocolate and they have six

packs and I don't? And chatGBT, analyze my diet. I uploaded all of my fitness pal meal logs, which I had tracked for a week to chat GBT. And chat GBT is like, bro, you don't have any fats in your diet. And I was like, yeah, chat GPD, I don't eat fats because I'm trying not to have fat. And then it gave me this huge lecture, pretty condescending, about how you have to have healthy fats for hormone regulation. So for two, the week after that, I started adding like grass fed brutter and not a ton, but just like enough to get like my fats in. And I asked you like really convicted me. And I was like,

oh no. I was like, I have changed my diet. And so then I go to chat GBT and I'm like chat chagipt. Listen, I'm having like mood swings and like irritable and like fits of rage. Is this normal? And it's like and in chat GPT goes, yeah, Jordan, your body's like re-regulating like having fats. Like you're going to feel irritable for the next like two weeks. And then. And then I said, is this like how Danny feels when she's PMSing? And it said, yeah, Jordan, this is how it happens. And it happens to her every single month. And then I go to Danny and I gave her a big hug.

And I said, I'm sorry, I'm PMSing. And I said, can you imagine having that once a month or can you imagine that for nine to 10 months straight when you're pregnant? Because like I knew that you were right. Like I knew it wasn't a big deal. but to me, it was everything. I mean, you literally busted in my shower. Like, I was just washing my hair.

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Listen, my whole 2025 is a series of counterintuitive thoughts. The more that I let Danny just do her own thing and be autonomous, the more she respects me and loves me. Makes no sense. I did everything for you. For two years, got nothing. If you feel autonomous. Because I don't want a father.

Like, I want a husband. No, for real. So that's counterintuitive. If I eat butter, I actually start losing weight, not gaining weight. Makes no sense. And so, like,

there's like an episode of Seinfeld where, like, George Costanza, like, does everything opposite of what he thinks. And he ends up getting, like, all these raises. And, like,

he gets this, like, really pretty girlfriend. And I feel like I'm in that era of my life where I'm like, I'm going to, what would Jordan last year do? I'm going to do the opposite of that. And I think my life is going to totally change. It reminds me of when Tony Robbins got that poisoning from eating the same thing every day. Oh yeah. He got mercury poisoning from eating salmon or fish every day. I know. And he was like literally poisoning his body like slowly over time with mercury and then didn't realize it until he was like extremely sick like how to be

hospitalized. I just hate how, I hate how there's such thing is like too much of a good thing. Because I'm such a rule follower. I'm so rigid. And like it's just, it kills me every time. I know. I know. But like that's why they always say like at the end of the day, like health is all about eating a well balanced diet. Like well balanced. You have to have your healthy fats, your proteins. Yeah. Your carbs. Everything. No, for sure. But yeah, you, you go pretty hard than paint, which is one of the greatest things about you is you have this insane dedication and drive and discipline. But it's just like, you have to be driven and disciplined towards the right thing. Or you're going to go too hard. Yeah. We were listening to that Mr. Beast podcast.

Yeah, I related so much to that podcast. It was, the episode is, I think if you Google diary of a CEO, Mr. Beast interview, around 40 minutes in, he starts being open. And he starts being extremely open about how his rigidity and being the best and being the biggest YouTuber is actually making him so miserable. Well, they asked him, he talks about his mental health. And they ask him, like, are you happy? And he's pretty much like, he doesn't say it outright. But he's like, like, I'm miserable, miserable because I'm willing to push myself in ways that nobody else is is willing to push. themselves like I'm willing to sacrifice in ways nobody else is and it like no one would want to

live the life that I live and that's what makes me great. It makes me successful. But like you can't be great and successful and be like basically content. Yeah. And happy with your life and well balanced. And like and he was just like he just keeps pushing himself every single day. And he talked about having the flu and he talked about getting sick and like still he was like so sick and still like he knew that he had to film these videos. So he's flying like 200. days out of the year, 250 days out of the year and just going and going because he knows at the end of day that's what's going to make him great. But it's like, yeah, he kind of like admitted that it, like he's miserable. Well, he said, and I think what you and I related to the most was he was talking

about the cycle. And the cycle is like he has a video that just crushes it. And then he rest for a day and then he gets this itch of like, I've got to get that dopamine rush again. Yep. And so then he'll come out with like stranded on a deserted island for seven days or like, law. myself in a coffin for three days. And he keeps one-upping himself, but he kind of talks about how the high of each one-up is not enough anymore. And the misery of having to chase the next thing is really the misery that we technically got caught in. Yeah. Right. It's why we blew up the life. Yeah. It's a cycle. But he's still going. And what's so crazy about Mr. Bees is, you know, he's out there raising money right now. We got invited to invest in. To invest in.

Feastables? No, no, Mr. Beasts. Like, the pitch that we got was, do you want to invest in Mr. Beast because Mr. Bees is going to be the next Disney. And so he's like, I'm listening to this interview in one ear and then I'm getting this like, oh, we're going to go and be the next Disney another year. And I'm like, this guy's not going to make it. I don't know. Or he will because he's willing to sacrifice everything. You know, it's interesting that he just got engaged too. And he was talking about his fiance.

And like, he's like, there's very few people on this planet that could like, I could. have a healthy relationship with. And he's like, why? And he's like, because I need someone that basically is okay. Like he's in, in like more words or less, he said, I need someone that's okay at being like second in my life. Like work will always be like number one. And I need someone that's like confident enough and has their own life enough to be number two. Oh, is that what you heard? I heard under the scenes was like, I need someone who's probably more codependent. Well, no, because she does her own thing. Like, she has her own life.

Like, she is basically like a genius. Like I looked at this girl on. Oh, she is? Yeah, she's extremely intelligent. And she's always learning. And like she's in school. And he says that like basically when they get together, like they just talk about like the lectures that she's like learning about and what she's learning.

And then she goes off and like does her own thing. Like because he's like, I need somebody that's okay with me being gone for. two weeks and doesn't need me. So she's very independent is what what I heard. But she's also willing to like sacrifice. He's like it's very hard to find someone that's as smart and as like intelligent and driven as she is, but also willing to put her stuff to the side to follow him around essentially. All I can think about is like when they have kids. I know. I just feel like this like whole marriage thing like to hit like it might be a little eye opening after. Like I think that novelty is going to wear off and you're going to want someone that's willing to make sacrifices to put you first and your relationship.

Well, we're reading for him. Yeah, yeah, you never know. We passed on the investment. Yeah. I was like, I don't know. He did say that he, I related to him too and he started talking about feastables and he was like, he said that where he gets excited is when he gets to work on his company and grow his company. but he's like the only thing is I have found joy in something that like I can be replaced at

and no one can replace me on camera. And he was like out of all the things that I like, it's like the one that I can be replaced for and like the camera work and filming, no one can take that. So he feels like he's stuck. At Divi, I never told you this, but at Divi we had a couple people apply for like sea level positions that actually came from feastables. And I never talked to them, but I think someone on our team did. And they just talked about the way that he kind of built it was around Jimmy, Mr. Beast. And so it was even really hard for these like high powered executives to build the brand beyond him

because the way they designed it. Whereas I think with Divi, we were very intentional. Very intentional about not building it to where you had another thing. Yeah. And it's, trust me, it's so much harder. Like, it's so much easier to do what he's doing. Yeah, it would have been easier for me to launch everything or for me to be posting all the links. But like, yeah, we didn't want that. But I can't imagine what he's going through because he talked a lot about like context switching. And I just remember like 2022, it was like, you had your thing, we had your thing over here and then we had divvy. And it was just so hard to come to you and be like, Danny, you just filmed this video. You're exhausted. Now can you make a really important decision on this

product, do you like this formula? And you're like, ah. It's like maddening. It's maddening. But I kind of liked doing that. I feel like that's harder for you. On tech switching? Yeah. Oh, maybe we get so upset. Oh, I would. Okay. Yeah, yeah. For sure. Sorry. Sorry. All the time. I was just thinking about, I had one example in my mind when we were filming that YouTube video for Matt James. And he was over with Rachel. Yeah. And we were filming. We were filming. And we're like on camera at the same time I'm like hosting them. I'm entertaining them. And then our old CEO, Divi showed up to like approve some products and packaging components and stuff. And like as I have these guests in my house, we're filming a YouTube video like we're like saying lines.

I had to go over and like make all these big decisions for like our scalp serum. Those are huge decisions too. I know. And I thought I hit him to like a champ. And I was like. Well, you almost made. I think you almost made the wrong decision. Do you remember? And then I was walking out and I was like, no, no, no, you can't do this. Like, you can't change this bottle. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Anyway. Yeah, so speaking of making America healthy.

Well, so last thing I will say about this, did you hear that the food companies are now trying to get, include ingredients that are getting around OZMPIC and GLP-1s? Wait, what do you mean getting around? let me read you this headline because it'll help you understand. So I saved it on Twitter for you because I knew it would just make you angry. Uh-oh. The headline is, OZimic could crush the junk food industry, but the junk food industry is fighting back. Oh, I saw this. As revolutionary new weight loss drugs turn consumers off ultra-processed foods, the industry is on the hunt for new products. So basically, this is from Jillian Michaels. Health person. Yeah. Generally. respected. It appears that the major food corporations are now attempting to engineer their products

in ways that circumvent the effects of GLP1 receptors, effectively counteracting the appetite-suppressing mechanisms of these widely used weight loss medications. So basically like, it is crazy. But did you know that like when all like when tobacco started getting more regulated, all of the tobacco companies ended up buying a lot of the food companies that we now like buy from? So they all have like a trace back to the addiction of like cigarettes and nicotine. And so it makes sense that they're basically trying to engineer around this whole thing. But if they pull it off, that's like I'm kind of not even mad. I'm like that's so maniacally genius.

Yeah. No, they definitely will too. But I've been listening to so much Gary Brecker and I've been listening to all the seed oil talk, which seed oils are in everything. But then the craziest thing is they're talking about how, how, okay, so seed oils are the worst. But then they're talking about how avocado oil and olive oil are also not great for you because of the ratio of like linoleic acid. So like your omega-6 fatty acids to the omega-3 fatty acids, like your omega-6 in threes, it should be like a one-to-one ratio. But some of these oils are like a 20-to-one ratio or a 30-to-one ratio.

So they're just really, really high in omega-6s. that's why we always take like omega-3 fish oil. And, but the only one that's like really good is, or the only way to cook, essentially that is like a good linoleic acid ratio is beef tallow. So then I'm like, do you have to buy beef tallow now to like cook? And like are, so these like, like, sioux like food chips and all these like gold fish, are they supposed to be cooking in beef tallow sash? Like is that even possible?

But what I'm really getting to, is like all these processed foods with all these seed oils and whatever it is. Like, yes, avocado oil is better than seed oils. But like just it's all bad. Like you should be eating whole foods. And it really just like whole food. Whole food is like not processed.

Yeah. So then I was like, oh my gosh, do I need to start making like my own Cheetos and my own crackers? Like I get how people start making sourdough bread. Yeah. Like I get it now. I didn't understand the craze before.

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own crackers. Like, because that's what I eat the most. So I would say like chips and crackers. So she's honest. She's like, I'm so maha. Like I just need like and then I'm just really hoping like the sioux chips now that they're bought out. I think who bought them? Like Walmart or something. I thought it was like PepsiCo? No. Yeah. Is it Pepsi? Um, I just hope that they don't mess up their ingredients. Those are still pretty clean. We can always protest. The seed oils?

No, just outside of their offices. CETA's. If they start changing, we'll just protest. They're from Austin. But they sold. Yeah. So we'll go to Pepsi Coast offices. Yeah.

It's gated, but we can get in there. I've been reading also a lot about mental health. Mm. You know, my book, The Whole Brain Child? Yeah. I'm reading so many books. Like, it's a little overwhelming right now. We're kind of like pretty studious these days.

No, I also started reading a book about, it's called Vax Fax, about vaccines. It's wild. We will go there. Yeah, bold. But if you're looking for a book about Vax Fax, like, it's called Vax Fax. It's so good. You know that book, you know about the author of that book? He got his medical license removed because he disagreed with some of the vaccine schedule.

And what I didn't know that someone told me when they gave you that book was that if you oppose the vaccine schedule, you can actually have your medical license removed. Oh, yeah. I didn't know that. He talks about this in the book, but that's why so many doctors are silent when it comes to. Like, a lot of doctors, if they kind of agree with you with the vaccine schedule, they can't tell you that. So a lot of them are just recommending this book. And they're like, I can't tell you. So just go read this.

And then you tell me what you want to do. Which is so crazy. It's also why I was like kind of just trying to like chit chat with the pediatrician. Because, you know, we've delayed a couple. And I was like, hey, like, come on. You like all these? You want all five of these? Come on.

And she was like, like I knew she was like. Wanted to talk. She wanted to talk. Yeah, you can't. And she wouldn't. She'd be like, oh, you know, like, she was like, I mean, you know, do your, do what you want. Like she could lose her rights of practice. Like think about all the money and time that she spent in medical school to get to where she's at.

And then from one conversation, it could all be taken away. That's why they don't talk about it. It's scary. Same reason we didn't talk about politics in 2020. But now. Babe, we're not talking about politics. Stop it. No, I'm not talking about politics.

I'm saying it's the same gag order that we were all under. Yeah, yeah. It's so crazy though because it's like, it's like medical advice that your doctor should be able to talk about. Yeah. And it's so messed up. Yeah. And your followers are like, Danny, it's just Pura. Like just tell us what politically you think and lose the Pura deal.

Anyway, so I've been reading this other book called The Whole Brain Child and it's all about, I think I talked about this yesterday, but getting your yesterday, wow. last episode about getting your child horizontally integrated because, and I was thinking about this. So it's talking about like the left and right side of your brain. And your right side of your brain is more about like emotions and entertainment and feelings. Left side of your brain is more about logic and reason and language. And when you're a child, the right side dominates. Like that's all you, you make every decision off of like emotions. There's not a lot of logic and reasoning that comes in until you're about four or five.

And it was just talking about. For me, 34. But I'm stunted. I'm learning. No, but it was talking about how the goal in parenting is to try to get your child to be horizontally integrated. So like when they're feeling all these emotions, you try. You have to kind of help them understand the left side, like the logic and the language

and the reasoning. And so you have to be heavy on that in parenting. But then I was thinking about it. And I was like, the way they're describing a child brain is like our marriage. Like you are so the left side of the brain and I'm so the right side. Yes. Like everything. And like you're so heavy in all of that.

And I'm so heavy in the emotional like spontaneity, whatever. And we just need to find out a way to be horizontally integrated. I know. We're so close. Like guys, listen, we're working on ourselves so hard. What do we say this week? We were like, I'm just so like, we're so. like we're so close to being in sync.

No, no, no. We're so close. Yeah, we're almost like integrated. It's like this. We're both improving individually. Do this. A heart. Oh.

But I don't feel a heart yet. We're not in sync yet. Okay. That was a bad analogy. But what, what I would say is like, Danny's amazing mom, killing it, crushing it, working on herself. I'm like actually crushing the game of mommy.

No. I, the reason you, like, my eyes walled up a second ago. Did you see that? No. It was like five seconds ago. Oh, no, I didn't. Oh, it's because every time I think about it, I almost cry because you're such a good mom. Right.

No, truly. Look, they're welling up right down. Stop. Tell me more. Why am I a great mom? No, I mean, you just, you put your mind to it like this year and you just like full on went and did it. Like, I mean, you just, you're like outside playing soccer with Stella and I'm like, it's great. No, I mean, they like love you.

And I just, you sense it in our home. We've talked about this like every episode. We don't have to go down it. But it's like there's just a, there's an aspect of you that can't be replaced. No, nanny can do it. Like, no, like I can't do it. There's just this like heart of the home you can't replace. But on a different topic, you know, do you want to tell them what you diagnosed me with this week?

What was it? There's so many things I diagnosed you. Let's just talk about dick mode. Oh, yeah. That's the one you diagnosed me with. Yeah, he has this thing. It's called dick. mode where he just becomes a dick for like i've never heard this in an entirety of our marriage

and i was shocked by it i think about it every single day i was like tell them the uber story no okay sorry no okay sorry because that was hard because i was i was in dick mode in the uber because i was worried about you being canceled let's just tell the story okay we don't have to i don't want to embarrass you no that's okay no that's okay no Okay, I won't. Anyway, my point is, okay, so there are times.

Why don't you tell them what it was about? What? They'll laugh. They know the story. Oh, the reality TV show? Yeah, reality TV show came back out. No, we can't tell the whole story. Okay, so this reality TV show that I said no to, they,

they want me, don't you. They just, they can't give it up. So I told them no. And then Jenny, who's basically my manager, she got on a, she like emailed the agency and was like, yeah, Danny's like the production company. Danny is out. She's not going to be doing it. And then like a week later, Jenny call me and she's like, hey, just do you know. They're making it really difficult for you to back out. And I was like, well, what do you mean? Just tell them no. Like we, we signed the contract, but in the contract it said I could back out anytime. And she's like, no, like, they really want to talk to you. The CEO of the production company wants to get on the phone with Jordan and you, but mainly Jordan, and figure out if there's a way that we can like make this work. And I was like, no, get away from me, Satan.

So then I was like, oh my gosh, this is so funny because we were just talking about how maybe if we were producers on the show, it would work out. Or we were talking about how maybe we would like want to actually produce our own show one day. Well, what we said, to be clear, was we were in the car and I was like, I thought it was a genius move that you were like, I'm going to ask to be a producer. Because I was like, oh, that's good control that you have. And then the conversation was- And you said now that's something I could get behind. You literally said that sentence.

Probably so, because I think we've always felt that we would be good reality TV show producers. Okay. We would be a good mix of drama, but wholesome. See, I'm not making this ish up. Like, you said stuff like this and you got excited about that when we were looking at that house in the car. So anyway, like this conversation was on speakerphone. So Jordan, like, heard it all. And so then I hung up the phone and I'm like, they can't get enough of this, you know?

And I'm like, would you get on the phone with them? And Jordan went in a full on dick mode and was like, just making all these days like, oh, absolutely not. Like, I'm not going to talk to them. And I was like, oh my God, what a douche. And so I walked away because I was just like, I'm not going to deal with this right now. Like, so I went to my room and you were like, you followed me in. And you're like, are you okay? And I was like, I just am fearful that we'll never be able to have a conversation

whenever it goes outside of what Jordan wants. Like, why can't we just listen, learn, have a conversation with this guy, see where the wind blows us. You never know what could come from it. And so then the conversation, our fight, like, went three or four layers deeper. It was like a whole thing. And Jordan's like, I feel like you have deeper resentment toward me. Like I feel like there's something else.

And I said, I want to tell you, but I'm scared to tell you. And he was like. I thought it was going to be like, yeah, you know, this one time you hurt my feeling and you go, okay, yeah, I'll tell you. Yeah, you have a dick mode and you went in a dick mode. And to be clear, Danny's never said the D word. in our entire marriage. So I'm shell-shocked. And I'm like,

it was like a curbball for me. I was like, what? And I was like, but I received it well. I go, wow, thank you for telling me that. I feel like this makes me really understand where you're coming from. And then, yeah, I mean, the past like seven days since that happened, I've just been like really contemplating this dick mode thing. Because the reason I call it a dick mode is because I don't think that you're a dick

inherently. Is Dick a bad word? I've never really used it before. It just sounds so dirty when I say it though. It's okay. Just turn this off if your kids are around. Yeah. Sorry. Turn it off six or seven dicks that we said to go. So I just call it D mode. Yeah, call it D mode for safety. So yeah, I wonder if dick is a bad word. It's such a gross word. Anyway. Well, and that's why I'm so curious, Why did you use it at me? Because it just felt right. They just felt right. It really did.

And so, because it's kind of funny too, but I don't feel like you're inherently a D. I feel like you go into D mode. Like, that's a thing. So, like, and it's, it comes out ever so often. It's not all the time. So that's a good part. Yeah. I still feel very defensive about.

this reality TV show. Really? Here's a thing. Say it. The thing is, is you gave me the trust and freedom to figure out my own process. I know. I did. So I think what's probably healthiest... I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I think what's probably wise is for us not to talk about it anymore. The reality TV show. I thought it was dead. I thought it was dead. I thought it was dead when I left on site. It was, but you were on the phone call when Jenny calls. I know. I know. That's why, yeah, it's just hard because you're like, they want me. It's like, oh, it's so back. And I'm just like this, I'm like, yeah, I'll talk to the CEO. Like, leave us alone. I don't mean

that. Sorry, you can talk to my wife and us. Anyway, they did say that I could still film the pilot and then make a decision afterwards and I could learn more from filming the pilot. Oh, this is breaking news. I didn't know this. Are you serious? Well, I have a call with, that's what my call at two is about how does it make you feel? Wow, this is like real live take. Hmm. I feel scared. Oh God. Okay. I feel very fearful. Okay. Um, but I accept. You accept? I accept.

I accept that this is your decision. You accept or you trust me? Oh. Oh, there's hesitation. Um. What do you not trust me with? Hamster wheels. I think I do.

I think I do. You think you do? I'm going to get curious here. Okay. Um. what have I done lately recently that scares you that I might get back on the hamster wheel? Outside of this reality TV show, nothing. What have I done with the reality TV show that makes you fearful of the hamster wheel?

I don't know how to explain. It's just a look in your eye. I just know you want it. I think I know that you want it. And I know that when you want something, it's like me. it's all or nothing. So you're doing the pilot. For real? I haven't decided. I have a call at two today about it.

I wish I didn't know that. I was going to go on a walk and just have a really pleasant time with myself. Now I'm just going to... That would be codependent if you didn't go on your walk. No, I'm going to go on my walk. I'm just going to have to listen to some loud metal music. Or maybe praise and worship. Or praise and worship.

Either way. Yeah. No, honestly, I feel I genuinely, we had a breakthrough with me this week. Yeah. I can't talk about it because it's like, it's too deep. But we had a breakthrough with me this week. And this all just, this all dates back to my childhood. We're fine.

We're fine. So do you feel like in, I'm asking this like, because I'm genuinely curious, like, do you feel like you're in a good place to make or to have opinions about this? I guess probably no I would say I'm early I would define myself as early recovery from codependency

and a lot of my issues so probably not do you think you're in a good place 100% okay 110% okay but that's just me

that's okay I mean I really am not feeling that much stress on this reality TV show thing. Oh wow. Okay, good. My last note was, I want to share this meme that you sent me. Wait before, okay, okay, yeah.

This meme that, and it's hard because you can't, it's a video, so I'm just going to read what it says. Danny sent me a meme after she called me. Yeah, this, I'm going to play it. After I call them a dick. So it says you're an outrageous temperamental bad-mannered female, but I realized I can't live without you. And it's a shameful confession to make. And you sent me that with the like, kind of like that emoji that's like.

No, it was the emoji that was like. Oh yeah. That was like the teeth and it's like, sorry. And it's the truth. Like it really is the truth. So go do your reality TV show. you bad mannered ill-tempered outrageous female and it's okay that's like i've sent i sent that all i sent that to like all my friends oh you did and they all just died laughing because it's how we all feel yeah we all feel

well can we switch gears a little bit yeah i want to talk about um a couple of my latest reels not that you've seen them okay Um, so I've had a couple where I am, uh, they're talking about pumping, like relating to pumping. Sure. And the comments are wild. Really? Really? Yes.

It's, it's mainly women that haven't probably breastfed in like 20 years having opinions about my content. First of all, they are, uh, a lot of them are like, why are you pumping? Like, why pump when you could breastfeed? But then a lot of them are like, this is so disrespectful to your body. Why are you showing this? What? Like it's too much to be sharing. Like it's too.

And it's not like, okay, I will say I did show my nipples. Yeah, I was going to say you've had to have a nip slip. Yeah, but like it's not like really like the whole thing. Like it's like it's like you can't really see what's going on. But anyway. You just see a little like pink. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like it's so, it's just wild to me because I know, trust me, like I don't, it's not like I like want to be like showing off like my boobs or anything. But it's just like I am doing it so much. Like you pump so much during the day that that's just what is happening. Like you're feeding a child with like something that your body is. is making. And so it's very like natural. You know, like in Europe, the woman just bust out the

boom and start feeding. Or that beach in Mexico. No, the beach in Mexico. This is true. But like, it's just a way of life. And if you don't want to see it, then like don't look. But like it's, the thing is, is like women can't. Okay. So like you can't help it. Like you, you have to pump or you have to feed every two, three hours because like your child needs to get the milk. For me, the reason I have been exclusively pumping, I do latch him sometimes throughout the day is because I have, he's had a hard time latching. And I've gotten mastitis twice. And so the only way I can like keep my clogs like, I mean, my ducks unclogged is by pumping

every two or three hours. Like my supply is like weird otherwise and I get really, really bad pains and mastitis. And so that's why I'm exclusively pumping. also because people can help you bottle feed the baby. So it's just is so different. Trust me, I wish I could just breastfeed. Like I actually think that'd be a lot easier than having this machine I'm hooked up to 24-7. But like I also had to go to the Divi office for a day. Like we had to go to Chicago for a day.

Like there's things being like a founder and being like business owners that you kind of just have to do. Like you can't just like not show up. And so pumping gives mom. the opportunity to show up in other ways that sometimes they need to that maybe just help their mental health too. And so, but so it's just crazy how many opinions people have about this thing when it's just like feeding a child. Also, I just think it's helpful.

Like what percentage? Like 10%? Well, I think the reason why women are so bothered by it is because they probably don't see it a lot. But like, and, but there's nothing wrong with it. And maybe people do need to. see it more so that they're not ashamed about it or you don't feel weird about it. So like that's why why I post about it because I know I'm not doing anything wrong, you know? Like I don't feel a conviction

that it's like, oh, Danny, you shouldn't be sharing that. Now, I'm not going to try to show my boobs and my nipples off. Like that's not my goal here. I'm not trying to be like one of those influencers like free the nip. Like, no, I'm just, I don't mind having, and you know, like if I'm posting a video or something, I try to cover it up so that you're not seeing anything like. inappropriate, but just the act of pumping, you know, people get so offended by it. Yeah, I think this one's dumb. Yeah. I think it's dumb. I think it's like really, are you sure these are real people? Yeah. Really? Mm-hmm. So do they think you're like exploiting your breastfeeding for content, essentially? No, no, they're just like why this is TMI. Hmm. I think it's like TMI. But I just have to

to say when you are pumping or breastfeeding, it is so much work. It's like mentally exhausting too. It's also like very emotional. Like I don't know what it is about it, but like maybe it like releases hormones that like make you feel like emotional. Like even like I've thought about stopping and like it makes me want to cry when I think about stopping breastfeeding. Like because I think that it's something that really connects you. to your baby and it's like you are doing something that is so like amazing for them like whether and I'm no whether your formula feed I formula fed stratton from like week two so like I'm not Stella I breastfed for about three months stratton I breastfed him for like two weeks so you know

fed is best like you go formula like more power to you whatever it is but I'm just saying like I think that there is scientific about like the hormones that are released while you breast feed and like that connection that you have with your baby. And it's like really special. And it's very, it's like a way that you feel like you're providing for them. It's very natural. And so, yeah, to me, I feel like we should be like encouraging women and like helping them because it's also really hard. And so we should be encouraging them to like keep going and that they're killing it and they're doing like the best that they can. And I felt like sharing videos or pictures of me pumping was supporting that narrative, not hurting it, you know?

Should we pull up who commented that and just read their names publicly? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, let's publicly shame the people that are trying to publicly shame you. And let's see how they feel about it because how dare you to my wonderful goddess breastfeeding wife, you come after her. You come after her, you come after me. And I will shame you and I will send it to your employer. And I will get you fired.

Too far. Too far. And I will send it to your children so they know the mother that you are being to them. I kid, I kid, but I do think this one's real dumb. Yeah. I'm being honest. I think you, you whip those things out. Thank you, babe.

Just cover the nips. Yeah. Let's not be too crazy. No, no. I'm not trying to be like that. Yeah. Like, no, I always try to cover. Because that's a slippery slope to only fans.

You know. If you think about it. Totally. You can't let you go down that slippery slope. There's probably a huge demo market for breastfeeding moms in there. Honestly, it's sickening, but probably so. Ew. That's gross.

I know. Just really gross. Topic number two. Things that make you go, hmm. Incentivizing your children's trust. Their trust are incentive driven. So if the children obtain their master's degree,

their doctorates and so forth, there receive bonuses that are written into the trust. That is so interesting. This is so not original. Like all these old Dallas money, these families got these trust so dialed. It's insane. Wait, you think that they all do this? 100%.

What? Yeah, 100%. They're based on, I think they're based on marriage. I think they're based on fidelity. I think they're based on so many things that you would never imagine. So interesting. What, would you ever do incentive? trust for our kids. I don't want to leave trust from our kids at all. Sorry. I'm like, oops.

I set those up. Well, I mean, like, so like my parents gave me a little lump sum for like half a wedding. Yeah. I wouldn't say that's a trust though. No. So, like, I would, I would probably, I want to save money for my kids' weddings. That's about it. I don't really want to, I don't want them to ever feel like they have anything coming for them. Honestly, that's one school of thought. That's a big school of thought. I just want them to figure life out on their own and I don't, I feel like it's a crutch. I think that there's an age that probably it makes sense. Like, I think if you're going to do a trust, it's like 35, 40 because at that point they have to figure out their lives first, you know, and they're probably just enough established to where if they're at that point of

having kids, like I'm going to be 35. By that time, I'll have, what, three kids, four kids, maybe, we'll see. Or did they just lack to they know they have it coming? I don't think so. I think you just, you don't want to wait it out like that. And again, I think that there's probably like things that you can put into place. I don't know, but then you become really controlling, potentially codependent. You know? See, I just also don't want to have control over my kids' life like that. No, it's like, I've- It's like kind of creepy. Like it puts, It's too much pressure on me. Babe, you got to get into this, like, old Dallas money scene because, like, I feel like I'm a friend.

I'm okay. I feel like I'm friends with, like, a lot of second and third generation, like old Dallas money. And the things that I hear are insane. I can't imagine. And it's like a whole thing. It's so incestuous. It's like a whole culture that they live by where they're like, oh, yeah, like this guy who manages my family's family office. Like, yeah, he's really hard on me, but not hard on my brother. And it's like a whole world of dynamics and nuances that they have to deal with.

And so the biggest, I have, this is not like a, I haven't studied this statistically. But I feel like for the most part, there's kind of this like concept if you come from like old money Dallas of wanting to kind of get out of it, which actually means like literally severing off any needs you have from your parents and going completely on your own. Yeah. And the ones who do that are typically very respected within this. like old money network because they're like, wow, like good for you, man. Like you did it. Isn't it crazy? It's such a first old problem. No, it's a problem. But it's a problem. But these are all like really

good people. They're awesome people. It's just dynamics that are very niche dynamics that not many people know how to like navigate or deal with. No, I understand. I think I'm just still. And more so they can't talk about it because they sound like the world's smallest violin. No, true. So true. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I wouldn't want to set up incentives for my child with their trust because I don't know what they're going to need out of life. Like maybe they shouldn't be getting their masters. Maybe they shouldn't even be going to college. Like, what if they want to go serve in Africa? Then they're not going to get like the right amount of money because they didn't get their masters in college.

Yeah. I don't know. It's tough. It's tough. I think it's, the more that I heal from codependency, the more it feels helenipendent and very controlling. Yeah, to give your kids. Like, if I give you money and I trust, like, you better always be nice to me and invite me over to visit the grandchild. Well, also, isn't it just breeding grounds for resentment your kids are going to have towards you?

Like, your kids are going to be like, like, F you mom and dad, like I know best. And honestly, like, at a certain point in their age, we should be like, yeah, you know best. We trust you. We're here to consult. I know, but I think it's so much easier said than then. Probably. So much easier than then. Probably.

Like, as soon as I find out that, like, my kid is. not enrolled for like the right classes at college like you better believe i'm being up there being on their butts being like you better sign yourself up for that class like i'm just gonna watch them like ruin their lives is that what that's what people are saying don't be codependent like that like i'm just it's gonna be hard it's like stella you're not getting an art history degree yeah like yeah yeah she's like mom i want to go to vannebole and city art history she's like mom i want to be a art curator at the met and you're like absolutely not daughter it's gonna be like she's gonna be like you're crushing my dreams you know

understood my dreams and you're like, I'm a realist. And then you're like, okay, pay for your own degree at Vanderbilt. Oh, yeah, and then she'll never talk to us. Yeah. So there it goes. That's fun. Anyway, we need to be good before that comes. I know.

We need, we got to get, we got to get insane. It's going to be so hard. It's going to be so hard. The last thing I want to say before you guys go, can you leave a comment of what should our outro be? We need like a saying that we say at the end of each episode. Like Gary Brecker always says, and like all. always it's just science. He says something like that. We need something like that. We need an

outro. Yeah, like just like... You don't like the Irish goodbye? Like, okay, bye. Okay, bye. I always thought that would be funny if we did that. We should just end it right now. Yeah. Don't even say bye. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.