De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - Dani is Starting to Warm Up to Nashville

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

After our latest trip, something shifted… Dani is officially starting to warm up to Nashville. We talk through what felt different this time, from the people and culture to some unexpected moments that made us seriously consider what life could look like there. Is Nashville actually a better fit for our family than Dallas? We also get into the reality of this season of life with four kids, a chaotic weekend of parties and events, and a real conversation about marriage, emotions, and learning how to handle stress together. Join us as we try to figure it all out. We rounded up some great deals from a few of our favorite brands for you: Tossing the toxins has never been more convenient! For anyone grabbing the Premium Starter Kit, you can get 15% off at BranchBasics.com with our code DANI Let this Mother's Day be a reminder that she deserves care, too - discover how Cozy Earth turns everyday routines into moments of softness and ease. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code DANI for an exclusive 20% off, and if you see a post-purchase survey, be sure to mention you heard about Cozy Earth right here on De-Influenced. Stick with your wellness goals. Go to kachava.com and use code DANIAUSTIN for 15% off. Shop minnow's spring 2026 collection at shopminnow.com and enter code MEETMINNOW15 at checkout to receive 15% off your first order. Try Salt and Stone's discovery set to find your perfect scent — Go to SaltandStone.com/DANI and use code DANI at checkout for 15% off your first order. Families are better when they're working together. Right now, Skylight is offering our listeners $30 off their 15 inch Calendars by going to MySkylight.com/Dani Learn More at Starbucks.com/partners Subscribe to our official YouTube channel, @deinfluencedpodcast, and follow along on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your De-Influenced fix. You can also find us on Instagram and TikTok at @deinfluencedpodcast. Thanks so much for listening and supporting the show! Produced by Dear Media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The following podcast is a dear media production. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast. De-influenced. I wish you all could have seen moments before this. Jordan was rearranging. Oh yeah, if you're watching this on video, we have a different set background. It's actually just the left side of our set. The left side of our set.

But it was really cute because Jordan went and got all of my awards from downstairs in my office and he wanted to display them behind me. And so we have our EY Entrepreneurship. of the year. That was an American influencer award. Not to start this episode, just bragging, but, you know, J.P. Morgan. Female founder, Inc. 500. Emerging brand of the year.

That was 2025, I believe. Wow. You know what's so funny is, it's a lot of accomplishments, but, oh, oh, Inc. 500. You still feel hollow? No, I was going to say, I feel like my biggest accomplishment is you. Oh, so nice. I know. Who put you up to saying that?

I really felt it in my heart. Wow, I believe you. I was like, I really did. Well, I was going to say my kids first, but then I was like... He's here. I might as well say him. No, but I actually feel like... That just came because you were around, but like I had to choose you.

Like, that was something I, like, did. Right. Like, I, like, made that decision and I did good. I've also been making you laugh a lot lately. I know, because you don't take everything so seriously. used to be so like sensitive and it was like yeah no your family doesn't like sensitive people you guys were not raised to be sensitive we also don't really like really nice people yeah no you think they're boring no i like nice people sorry that's not the word um it's like when people are like

too nice mousy you don't like mousy people tell people what i said she but did she did say that if she dies i am allowed to remarry but i have to marry someone really mousy because she said if i marry someone like her then she'll haunt me for the rest of my life i said if you if i die you can't remarry but i want you to marry like the sweetest girl in the world like i want her to have absolutely no edge like i wanted to wear like those really long dresses with the flowers on them with a headband and just like i want her to cook for you every meal and i want her to just like love you so much but just really not be funny not not have any edge to her and just be nice.

Yeah. Then I'd be okay with it. I was sick, what, last week? And I never get sick. And I'm not really, like, needy. I don't really, like, need much, right? Yeah, no. And so I was so sick, though.

And Danny made me a sandwich and brought it to me, and she was like, look, I'm so mousy. He also were, you had strep throat. It was probably the gnarliest strip that I've ever seen. If you ever Google like strep throat and they're like, this is what a throat could look like. That's what Jordan's looks like. It was so white and pussy that it was so bad that it turned green on the sides. And then, yeah, I've never seen a case of strep that intense. You know it remind me of?

Childbirth. No. It reminded me of that cyst that you have that has teeth. We don't know that for a fact. No, I think about it probably once a week. It's got hair. It's like a little throat ball. I have a dorsal.

What do they call? a dorsal cyst Dormothet, whatever. I have ovarian cysts. Don't Google it. If you don't know what we're talking about, do not Google it. Not everybody has, they don't all have teeth. Sometimes they can.

Yeah, it's in hair. But you know what? I don't think that I do because I got a full body MRI and I feel like they would have seen them. They were seeing the teeth? Yeah. Yeah, you're probably right. Did you have anything from that MRI?

No, I'm all clear. All clear. Interesting. Yeah. But you do have ovarian cis. I've had ovarian cyst. Like every girl has ovarian cysts. Huh.

Jenny, do you have them? Yeah. Every girl has them. It's like a riot passage. Really interesting. Yeah, you just get a little cis on your ovary. I should get an MRI. Yeah, you know what I was seeing about that?

You know when the last time I had a physical? Like 10 years. Uh-oh. You have been actually a little funky. No, no, no. I think I'm very healthy. I don't think I need any doctor to tell me. what to do. Yeah, but you never know. You should do one of those pernubos and you should do it soon. Yeah,

I should. I should do that. They're kind of outrageous, but you know, it's like, you should have, you got it. Today has been one of those days for me. I, it's weird. I have probably two days a month where I'm just on a freaking high where I just wake up and it's like, it's like I've taken an Adderall, but I haven't. And it's like I don't touch that stuff anymore. She's clean. Just, you know, that stuff effed up my life. Um, but, But man, it's like I just like, I need to do things. I need to just like clean and organize. Yeah.

You know, do you ever feel that? And today was one of those days. And it usually, I don't usually wake up thinking today I'm going to be like the Hulk and like a Hulk organizer. But I kind of like just, I wean myself into it. And what it started with today was, you know, I have a busy weekend. So I have, um, today land and Olivia are coming in town and I have this real idea. I'll tell you about it in a second that I want to do.

tomorrow I am having Stratton's birthday party with no coordinator. So I'm the coordinator. You know how I do with coordination. Not good. I get overwhelmed. It's like, it's like 9 a.m. I'm getting my hair makeup done.

I know I'm bougie, but I didn't want to deal with it. 845, the balloons arrive. 9.15, the cake arrives. Oh, no, wait,

the cake is actually arriving today. Oh, see. I'm not downstairs. If somebody comes, like I'm going to miss it. You know, at, this time Captain America arrives.

At this time, these things. So I'm, Chick-fil-A is coming. You know, I'm doing cake. I'm doing pizza. And I, it's me. It's on me.

Is this like a blogger birthday? Or is this like a pretty chilling? I tried to keep it chill, but you know, things add up. Yeah. There's a train coming. And Stratton is,

Stratton is like, he's my boy. You know what I mean? Yeah. That dirty dog. I just, I have to give him everything he wants. I just,

he looks at me with those big blue eyes and I'm like, I'm like, like you want to train and Captain America and ice cream in a bounce house. I'm like you got it baby. I can't say no. Stella I can say no too. It's easier for me. I don't know why that is with daughters, but with boys, I'm just like, you're just going to just spoil the heck out of you. So anyway, that's happening. And I'm a little worried because one thing about me is like when I am overwhelmed with logistics and have to be social at the same time, I bring. breakdown. Like it is, you're really good at that. You're really good at being social and being

logistical and having to film and taking that I am not created for that type of stress or that type like I'm fragile, but I'm doing it tomorrow. It's because it's because your brain's spaghetti and mine's pasta. But I also, but the reason why is too like I am so concerned about hurting people's feelings or people feeling uncomfortable or people like not knowing where the bathroom is or like not having a drink or like not finding a condiment or not having a good time that like it it puts so much weight on me and like I also just feel I don't even feel this way sometimes like in the like public eye but just even if I didn't do what I did like I want people to like me you know and so then if I'm like busy talking to someone and then somebody comes to the door because I have to deal with the logistic

and I have to interrupt them and be like sorry I got to go like it breaks my heart and I feel so bad So anyway, that's why I typically don't like to do this, but I'm doing it because it's cheaper. How many people are coming? That's another thing. They put me, they put when I say they, it's me, I'm on RSVP duty. And so I lost, check it out a long time ago. At a certain point, I was like, okay, it's just a lot of people. It's just a lot.

I was like at first I was trying to keep it so small, but then once again, worried about hurting people's feelings. So then I was like, well, I'll just invite this one person from that group. And then like three days later, I was like, I have to invite everybody from that group. So anyway, I'm not stressed about it. It's going to be fine. You know, you know what Billy Elish says, we're all going to die one day. Yeah, no, for sure. So it's like, you know, you can't stress about the little things.

So I'm doing that. And then tomorrow night, I don't know when I'm going to do. I'm doing. I don't really, I don't know, you got any plans? Tomorrow night after this big bash? Yeah, you got any plans? No, we're going to show. Just making sure you didn't have any. No, no plans.

Okay, that's good. I can't, babe. We can't go anywhere. I know, babe, that's why it was a joke. I was going to say, like, we are landlocked here with four children. I know. It's like, it's like, oh, well, you go anywhere. It's like, you know, because I know we're not like lulls.

You ever feel like the weekends just feel like war? yeah for sure i'm like i feel like friday five o'clock i'm like okay work's done i was like time to gear up well i'm like it's time put on the armor of the lord it's honestly time to just go to bed because you have to wake up so early it's like yeah no for sure it's like i i can't entertaining four children over a weekend is is proving to be very difficult because the big kids want to do different things than the little kids and it's really hard for us to go all the same place together yeah because because it's really the two youngest. They're really like.

They're really like, they're really laughing. They're like, we used to have a little bit more freedom and now it's like completely shot. So that's happening. And then next morning, I wake up and I'm hosting Olivia's baby shower

with my mom at her house. And that's another scary thing. Because if you think I'm unorganized. And she's the party planner, right? Yes. She actually did get Ellie's sister, Caroline, Thank you, Jesus. I've been praying about that. Thank you, Jesus, that you intervened my mom's heart.

And she decided to use a party planner because that would have been, that would have been fun. Like just, oh my gosh, such chaos. Like it's just just as me out thinking about it. So today I was like, the reason I was even talking about this is because I had my stylist go and pick out outfits for all of these. Oh, shoot, I actually don't know what I'm wearing. for Shredden's birthday. It's okay. But I had her go pick out like baby shower outfits and stuff because, you know, nothing fits. And, you know, it's, I don't have time to go shopping.

And so she brought over a bunch of options. And so I started trying them on. And I think like once I get my body moving and grieving, then I'm like, my hands are busy already. Let's just start getting rid of stuff or let's start organizing or let's start, you know, like doing the things that I have been that have been on the Tudor list for so long. It's really good to be on our team, our house cleaner, or our nanny during this time. Or just in my general vicinity.

Or just in your general vicinity. I mean, you could be the neighbor over dropping something off. Well, only if you're a nice neighbor, just saying. If you are in Danny's general vicinity when she is in this mode, you will get so much free stuff. Yeah, that's insane. You got to hang around me at the right times. Yeah. It's only once or twice a month.

But it's crazy. Because what I like to do is I like to build and build and then just like shower people with gifts all at once. And it's just like, you get a car, you get a car, you get a car. And it's like. Did you give away the MediCube though? No, because I know you love that, babe. I would never, I would never give away your MediCube. Great brand.

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Yeah. So I have a very busy weekend. So I want you to just know that if I'm, you know, anxious, mean, it's not personal. So just keep up the whole like don't take things sensitive too much, you know. Yeah, no, I'm groomed for it now. Yeah. You have been way better about that. really just whatever whatever life brings my way I'm just all right I'll receive that yeah but no but I feel

like what what I'm saying it's like like all be mean and you're like you're like you little meany you know instead of being like you're mean you know yeah no no there's there's only like even uh but I'm never mean it's like I'm just like snapping no for sure I mean it's hard because I there was a situation where we had to make a mutual decision okay recently Okay. And it was a very complicated mutual decision. It's like every different of marriage. Yeah.

But this was like a big one. Okay. And I didn't feel heard. Well, I didn't either. So. Right. But then Danny told me I wasn't listening to you because you actually don't know what you're talking about and you don't know what you want. And I know better about what you want.

But the amount of times you've said that to me. No, I haven't. never said you don't know what you want. That's like stepping on a landline. Okay. You're right. Because I've learned that it's not about who's right. It's about how I make you feel. You know? And then I had this, you had this wonderful opportunity to do the same for me. And you just blew it. Oh. You just, you just, you just, you just, you just, we're going on that path this morning. No, no, no, no, no. It was bad. You chose violence. No, we're fine now. I'm over here. I'm just trying to talk about the weekend. And like once again, you're in the ship just straight into an iceberg.

I mean. No, we, we, it was, it was a good moment though because I feel like it we, we've solidified that I'm crazy. No, honestly, though, I really could have gotten very upset about this. I know. Thank you. And I didn't. I was just like.

And then what's so funny is I didn't get upset. And then you go, you know, we never finished our conversation. I go, yeah, we did. You told me that you know better than me. me and I don't know what I want. And then we talked about it again and then we were still good. Babe, but sometimes I do know better than you. No, it's you really think that. It's okay. Okay. I'm over it. We already talked about it. Yeah, no, we're over it. Um, anyway, we really haven't been fighting that much. No, I know. That's what I'm saying. I don't think we fight that much.

We used to. We went through that era. Yeah, we did get through that era. That year of fighting. I know. I think about that a lot and I was like, why do we fight so much? It's because you were so serious. No, I think you changed. But I think you changed. I think you are stubborn. You know, I'm just teasing. We both changed.

Yeah, we both changed. Yeah. Now I'm like, I'm like, what are we? You remember that article I was talking about where it's like parents with four kids are the least stressed people and you were like, that's like propaganda to have more kids? I think it's true. Propaganda to have more kids? You, I thought the article headline was true that when you have four kids, you have so little control over anything.

No, I just think it's Instagram's algorithm giving us exactly what we want to hear. Maybe, but it's also true. Okay. We're not sure. The reason we don't fight about anything is because there's nothing to be stressed about it. No, I mean, some ate a roly poli. I didn't even call a doctor. I was like, it is what it is, you know, like.

It's probably like. And then he and then Stella dropped a whole thing at Jello the other day right next to the front door where everybody walks in. I put it right back in there and give it right back to her. And you know what else? It had Red Eye 40 in it for sure. Yeah, it was. And first of all, I don't know who's buying that jello.

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to me down to like you know and be like oh her emotions don't matter because your emotions do matter you know but like at the same time like what did you how did you change because now you just kind of ebb and flow when you used to get so offended over my emotions do you remember like six episodes ago when i played you that clip from that like Australian guy on tic talk and he was like the husband's like the concrete wall and the woman is the waves crashing against did and the man just needs to do you remember that yeah that i feel like honestly changed my life wow it was that ticot that's why we love ticot no it was like it was like he was like had this like australian accent and he was like yeah i feel like he taught me that it's not that your emotions

don't matter it's just that they're gonna like yeah they're gonna just like go and sometimes waves are going to be big and sometimes they're small and sometimes it's calm and you just learn you have to be sturdy you have to be sturdy And because that's what you want from me. Stability. Emotional stability. You don't want me to solve them. I spent years trying to solve your emotions.

And then I was like, this is like a dog chasing its tail. It's, I don't want you to solve them, but I also don't want you to join in in the ocean with me. No. And that's a huge learning lesson. That's what you were doing. Yes. And then it created so much chaos in our family because like you would be like wanting to crash against this wall. I'd be like, yeah, let's crash against this wall.

Back to that we keep talking about this scene. But like, Zach and Jen. Yes. Jen is like, I'm feeling all these things towards Whitney. And Zach's like, yeah, this sucks. And like she pulled him into the wave of emotions. Yes. And he probably loves her so much.

He wanted to please her. This is, we're talking about slow most, uh, secret lives of Mormon wives. Yeah, that scene where we've talked about it every episode for like six episodes. It's such a like that episode has so much wisdom packed into it. Yeah. That it's, it's the most important episode of the entire series. Yeah. We don't, honestly, we talked about it for like, like, probably 30 minutes.

We won't, we won't talk about it anymore. But, like, what I'm saying is that, like, I used to get dragged into your emotions. Well, I first tried to solve them. But now he just kind of laughs at them sometimes, but not in front of my face because I would literally get so angry. No, I usually just walk away. Oh, that's not. No, no, no. Not like, like, if you're, if you're stressed or anxious instead, it has nothing to do with me.

it's not helpful like for you maybe other wives want this but like you don't want me to help you like you don't want me to solve solve it what you want is for me to be stable whenever you when you solve it yourself yeah that's just you maybe that's not everyone yeah but yeah you just don't you just kind of ride the waves yeah like a little surfer yeah riding the waves i think the best advice is just to be that steady eddie for an an emotion wife especially in postpartum especially in you know pregnancies or just like being a female is emotional like and I think it's that's how we're wired and I think men are are you know the other reason I used to take it seriously and I think this is maybe relatable is that I used to see your emotions

as a reflection of me so like what I mean is like if you were sad it meant I failed If you were angry or frustrated about something, it meant that like I should have proactively solved a problem for you. And I think I got so stressed in our marriage because I, you know me, like I will try really, really hard to things. He's a hands-on dude. I will try really hard. And I feel like I tried to solve and de-stress are so much in our lives. And it just wasn't working that I just felt resentful because I was like, yeah, failure. But it. It really, then you learned it had nothing to do with you. No.

And then I found out that it actually was counterproductive to try and solve things for you. Because then I took away your power to solve things for yourself. Yeah. I think, yeah, everything you're saying, I echo. It's the good. We talk about this. My friends talk about this a lot. It's the good husband syndrome.

It's the weirdest thing. It's like, I think. I think most guys at least that I hang out with want to be good husbands. We just have kind of this counterintuitive knowledge of what that means and looks like. A lot of us are like, oh, like I want to like take as much stress and pressure off of them. So like I want to, you know, uh, make sure that she, uh, doesn't have to stress about the baby or stress about this. But like you, it's so important sometimes to like let you figure things out. Let us stress about the baby because the, that makes the moments that are sweet with the baby so worth it and special.

You know. There was something that I was going to say about that. Yeah, I really like that advice to men that have wives to really like, you know, try your best to be that stability, emotional stability, and not take everything so serious because sometimes we feel something so strongly in the moment. And then the next day you're like, you know, I'm over it. Yeah. And now if you're still like like holding on to that emotion that I had the day prior and I'm already moved on, then it's just going to cause like so much conflict.

The one thing I will say that I feel like we both can get better at is we still kind of struggle both of us. I'm saying both of us with the silent treatment. Like when we get at each other, like I'll admit, I'm probably the leader in this. I'm like, I'm not going to talk to. okay and then I'm like I want you to approach me but I feel like you know I'm like sometimes I'm like I'm the one coming to you and you know being like okay we're going to talk about this we don't need to go down this rabbit hole but I'm just saying I I bet I bet it's relatable I bet a lot of other couples are like whenever you get mad at each other you just quit talking but then it's

like who's gonna make me on who's gonna do it who's gonna come talk it can go on for days It can go off for days. Weeks. And then the worst is like, we've never gone weeks, but it can go. When you like half to talk and be like, is a plumber here yet? And you're like still angry. It's like, did you pack still as lunch?

You know? I think that, you know, I don't know how you felt about this, but we were looking at a house recently. And I kept making a quip about like who got the best office. and it like really oh i don't want to talk about i get so yeah it really but hold on hold on hold it it really frustrated danny and so we get back in the car and her mom's with us with like a smith i think and stratton and we get in the car and i forgot what you had said you had said i said dan i said jordan's being a dick something like that but it was like it was like it was like kind of awkward because her mom was there and like you kind of snapped but i don't think it was even that forward it

was like it was it was it was that behind your back not to your face it was something like it was you said that to the other people no to my mom before you got in the car I go transpere the dick but like so so okay I would love to unpack this scene so um well but sorry hold on hold on so we won't talk about the actual so I made a quip and it made Danny feel like I just like I threw like I kept making jokes about this office and like who was going to get the office. Many of times like probably over seven times total. Yeah, because we had looked at this house multiple times. So it was like in the total span of three visits.

So it like really frustrated Danny because you felt like I was laughing at something that you're making a functional decision on. Okay. The context is not as important. So Danny's upset and we get in the car and you're, You don't say I'm a dick to me. You say something more like, hey, do you need, do you need to like be heard on something? Or like, do you need this office?

Like, you keep talking about it. But you say it in kind of like a firm way. And I'm like, oh, I was. I was mad. I was live living. So I then say in the car, I go, Danny, I was just kidding. And you were like, well, you keep kidding. And so like, yeah, you know, you say so like, I'm like, what like what do you want to say?

Just say it. Yeah. So then we drive like 20 minutes. we have this other meeting and we're in the car with your mom so we don't have the space to really like work this out in the car we probably could but i didn't want to like talk about it in the car but i knew you're about to like go silent treatment on me but then we had already gone silent treatment on you you were we went through chick fill a line i was like did she get sauces yes but you also what i felt so i was processing in this 20 minute drive and i was like okay

i think she's actually really overwhelmed wondering if this house is the right house and she's trying to think about a lot of decisions and she is stressed and she feels unappreciated and all the decisions that she's making. So I was telling myself this because I was kind of annoyed that you were annoyed with me. I was like, this is crazy. But then I understood. So then we park. And before our meeting, I go, hey, let's make sure this is the right place. And I pulled you out of the car. And I was like, she's going to let me have it. And we walked around the car so we were away from your mom. I remember my first sentence I said, you go, what's the one? And I go, I feel like you're just not being nice to me.

Yes. You said that. And I go, and I forgot what I said. I don't know, you can tell them. I felt like I did really good in this situation. You did. Because I pulled you aside. It was probably one of your top three moments.

I think so too. Thank you for saying that. Because I pulled you aside. I took my sunglasses off. Oh. Put them on my head so that you could see my eyes. Okay. And then I was like, hey, like, what's wrong?

And then you started crying. And you said you're not being nice to me. And I could have easily argued with you and been like, I was just kidding. Like, why are you upset? But I was like, oh, I'm so sorry. Like I won't make any more jokes. Yes. And I, and then you were like, I was like, I know that you're probably really overwhelmed.

I know that you have a lot of decisions to make. I know this is a really important meeting after. So like, why don't we just be good? And then like you go to your meeting. And if you still don't feel good afterwards, like we'll still talk about it. And you didn't say like, okay. thank you and then I gave you a hug and then you got my yeah you decompressed and then you did the meeting and you felt so much better after the meeting and then it was like it was bye-bye it was great there

I've play by play I thought that was a good one you did but it was a great example because it would have really gone south otherwise no and that meeting would have sucked balls sucked balls dude and I was like and then she's got and it would have compounded because then you would have been mad at me and been like if you weren't such a dick before the meeting then like I could had a good meeting and so i would have picked yeah i knew i had to nip it in the bud and just follow my sword i appreciate that but it's a great example of like you weren't really mad at me were you yeah oh okay well then my understanding of women is actually no i confused no i i will say i was probably like 30% mad at you 70% overwhelmed that's what i thought yeah because even when you

got in the car back in the car your mom knew you Your mom probably thought I did great too. Oh, yeah. But I think my mom kind of agreed with me a little bit. That I was being a dick. A little bit. And she never agrees with me about anything. Really?

Yeah. I don't know what I was doing to be. I think maybe, I think it wasn't that she thought you were being a dick. Sorry. We don't usually talk like this. I only use this word. When it's really. When it's really serious.

Yeah. It's like the arrow she keeps in her quiver. Like if I pull up the D word. So, because I used to call it dick mode, but now I just call you dick. What? But no, okay, so this is the situation. I think that, you also didn't see a lot of the moments while we were looking at this house, but I had Smith with me.

It was a very overwhelming situation that I was just in with all these people. And you would, you would leave and go be on a phone call, which is fine. I know you're busy and working and stuff. But then, like, I'm having to, like, talk. talk to these people, like we couldn't find a bottle, we couldn't find formula. I'm like in a room with like all these men. I like would have to be like, hey, can you all leave so I could whip out the boob? I don't know if you even knew. Like it was like a very like stressful situation. But at the same time I'm having to like like be on. And I think my mom just felt for me. Like I think

she felt she knew how overwhelmed and stressful it was. And so I think just like, I don't know, just some of the conversations we had, I feel like were like, yeah, I just felt like you weren't being very nice or sensitive to that. And then like the jokes about the office or jokes about this or that, like it was just adding on top of the overwhelm and stress. And I think my mom felt that. And she was like, she felt the eggshells and she was like, Jordan, you're walking on him. Yeah. Yeah. And she was like, Jordan, like you need to like chill out probably a little bit. Because Danny's like, there's a lot. lot, you know, and I think she probably, but I don't think she was like, oh, Jordan's being like a dick. I think she just was like, oh, I feel for Danny. And maybe Jordan's not being sensitive to yeah. I probably, because I missed almost all of that. Like I kind of was like. So you would come in and then you would have like your opinion, but then you would leave and like miss out on all the stress. And I think that's where she kind of felt for me. It was like you got to come in and say what you wanted without experiencing like the chaos. Well, I also. That makes

sense, but I also didn't really feel like I felt like you were in command mode. Well, because I had to be because you were out taking phone calls or whatever. Like I had to be the- Well, I started taking phone calls and disappearing because I was like, I don't feel like I'm valuable here. Maybe both can be true. But like even being there with like our two small children is valuable, like helping watch that.

Well, I had strutton with me. Yeah. Anyway, we don't have to unpack this. But yeah. So I think it's the one time my mom is. agree with me in my life. So let's just take it about that. Well, she probably felt like, because I don't think I understand when walking through a home

or designing a home. We're not designing a home, but I wish they were. Designing a home or making decisions for if a home is good. I don't think I really understand what goes through the female psyche. But it's, it's a lot. It's overwhelming because you're not just thinking like, oh, cool room. Like it's pretty. Oh.

You're like, hey, like. like functionally this needs to be there. So when I'm like, hey, can we have a pizza maker here? You're like Jordan. You're like, can you just stop? Right now our children don't have a place to sleep in this house. Can we not talk about a pizza oven? Yeah, yeah, right.

Or like, I don't give a crap about your reading nook. I'm like, where are our kids gonna put our, their dirty shoes when they come home from practice? Like, it's hard for me because you're like, what if we had a double-decker closet with a spiral staircase? Well, you know, that was the last thing we talked about. I know, but it's just. I say it up for the end.

No, I know, I know for sure. Okay. You're right. You're right. I know. Thank you. So, yeah, we haven't even really gotten to the fact that we did go to Nashville. We are still considering Nashville.

Like, we've had some interesting, like, I don't know, like God moments where we felt very called to Nashville. We've been praying about it a lot. There was an angel that came up to Daniel. An angel appeared. An angel appeared. at Jason's deli in the form of this probably 80-year-old woman. Grandma. Mostly honest, everybody there that day was 75 plus.

Yeah. And it was amazing. And she came up to us and she told us, we just want, I want y'all to know that God is proud of y'all. I know. And it could have not been a real person. It could have been an angel. I think she was probably real because she was with their daughter. Unless they're both angels.

I mean, you never know. The other thing about Nashville, I will say, is it's the craziest place where if you're carrying a baby, the general population is so invested in babies. They love them. The TSA agents are like sweetest baby ever. They're like, they're just so, it's very family oriented. There was this New Yorker in front of us in the TSA line and she was like, that would never happen in New York. and I go, this would never happen in Dallas. Yeah.

It's like they all just were like, you're a mom and a dad. How can we support you? Yeah. She came up to us and was like, God's proud of you. And he loves you. And he gave you those four little blessings. We're like, should we move here? Yeah.

So we've been like really, really on the Nashville train. And, you know, we applied to a bunch of schools in Dallas. And that didn't go great. so we're just like It's because Danny posts her side booed You know, I'm a little She posted her side booed In a

Maternity photo And you did it, you did it on bid day You did it on the day That we were supposed to submit applications For private schools We probably had a lot of yeses And then you posed that photo And they were like absolutely not

It could be the side boop That is keeping us back It actually was a little bit I remember the one school that we really wanted was like a sweet Christian school. Christians don't really like us. Christians just don't like social media. What we do is like the antithesis of what they stand for.

Not all of them. Not all of them, but a lot of them. Maybe the Dallas Christian culture. The Dallas Christian culture. But we actually didn't get into this sweet Christian private school and then you posted the side boot picture. And I think it was a little bit of like, fine. You don't want me?

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You know, like if I would have gotten into some of those schools or I, a little, because I do feel like sometimes these schools that are vetting you are looking more at us than they are your kids. Because like, how can you vet a three-year-old? And they're like, what's his favorite book? I'm like, I don't know. I'm lucky if he holds a book. the right side up, you know?

Well, it's just very like, I mean, you were talking about this and say what you said like in Jason's deli. Oh, man. That was like two days ago. I can't remember. Okay. What she was saying was she was saying like, and this is what I've always felt about, maybe any place outside of Dallas is, is the actual thing.

But I've always felt this specifically about Nashville is like, when you're there, the, the culture is so different that you can kind of just like, like you don't have to like, Like no one's sizing you up based on trying to figure out what's your net worth or like who do you work for or how are you valuable to me. It's just kind of like everyone just sort of like is and people are successful there. But it's just this weird different dynamic. And I told Danny, I go, hey, listen, when we land back in Dallas, I want you to compare and contrast like how you feel here because you said something like, I feel like I can just like be here.

I don't need to be something I can just be. It's so crazy because I know that people, we've been talking about this so long on the podcast, but I felt like this last trip I actually experienced that feeling in Nashville. I think it's probably because I like met and conversed and hung out with a lot more people. And like everybody there, first of all, is cool. Like everybody's like doing amazing, cool things. And it's like everybody's doing them because they love them,

not because they were pressured to do it because they were born into that family or they feel like they have to fit in or they feel like they had to go to this special school. And Dallas has this culture of just making you feel less than if you weren't a part of that. And I'm talking about Dallas. Now the suburbs of Dallas are great. Like I was, you know what I mean? Like suburbs are suburbs are totally different than like a main city. But like Dallas, Dallas culture is is very much that like you, the way that you become like successful is it's all. who you know. It's all who you know. It's like, and sometimes that can just like really wear you out where you just feel like it's, it's like, man, I'm going to have to like hustle my entire life to be able to like,

you know, you know, get what we want. And which to be clear, we did. We did. And like even, you know, whether even like private schools and stuff. Like I, I feel like we had a hard time with some of the schools because we both didn't go to a private school. When I feel like in Nashville, they don't care about that. Like I feel like they were just like, are you good people? What your values. Well, how do you want to raise your family? And I really felt like they were like looking at us, not like our backgrounds or our parents or whatever. And it felt like they really wanted like Danny and Jordan, you know, and outside of social media. Because there's nothing. There's so many like celebrities and like artists and famous people that move to Nashville that like we're nothing

special there. You know what I mean? So nobody's like wants to use you because everybody is, is already like kind of made it. It's like they just genuinely like want the best for you and they want to surround themselves and their families around good people too. And not, I'm not saying that you can't find that in every city in the world, even New York City. Sometimes I just feel like maybe it's a little bit more work to find that, you know? Yeah. In Nashville it felt like less work. And you know, like I have a hard time. It's a I have a hard time with four kids really putting in that work. And I love our community here. That's like the one thing that like makes me so sad if we ever moved like that we would leave. But that took a, that took years. Years to build that

community. Well, and I tell people too, like I think that we're at this like tipping point with all of our friendships where it's like everyone's going to start going to different schools. I know. Everyone's going to like move to probably different suburbs. And so it's kind of like a very interesting new chapter for probably all of our. our community, if I'm being honest. Like we were the only ones with kids when we first had this community, which means that everyone is really flexible around us. Now everyone has like two or three kids.

So we only see them. I think that's just a normal kind of transition in life for everyone. Like you start hanging out with who your kids go to school with. Right. And that just happens. And so if you, if your kids, if you're friends with a family and your kids don't go to school together, you can still stay close. It's just going to take work.

Like you're going to plan trips together, planned Fourth of July together, plan memorial. It's not going to be like, oh, see you Tuesday after work. It's like, or at school pickup, no, you won't. You won't because you have to go the same school for that to, or, you know, to see each other. So, so yeah, I don't know. I felt different about Nashville than I did. And I, and it's like, I don't know, maybe I didn't realize how much Dallas sometimes does drain me a little bit until I got there. But, you know, that's because I also allow it to drain me.

You know, it's not like everybody struggles with that. Because let's be real. Dallas is an amazing place to raise a family. No, for sure. No, it's like you've always said this. Like, it's not a place problem. It's just like, I think cultural alignment is important. And I think every city has a different culture. I think that Dallas is probably more akin to like New York, L.A.

I felt the same in Aspen. like because there's just so much wealth there like I felt like everyone was like dressed up and you know it's a little bit more like low key in Aspen but like when you get into these places everyone is so successful that there's just this natural comparison that you feel and I feel like where we were getting where I was I think I was a couple months ahead of you and realizing all this but like I felt like we were getting is like we have all these like awards that you were talking about and I'm like like do we do we have to have more like I don't I don't want more that's a lot of work like

it it's like I think that we thought um maybe I just thought like happiness was at the top of this mountain yeah I was like I got to the top of the mountain and then it was like oh no there's another mountain and then there's another and then there's another and I don't really want to traverse the next summit. I just want to like be content. I know. That's why I'm going to get some horses. Oh yeah, sure. But the only thing is I don't really know where to begin with that. You know, like, how do you do that? I need to find somebody like a friend that has horses or something. Yeah. Maybe they could teach me about them. Jason's deli. Just ask around. Jason's jelly. Just ask around. Jason's jelly. Those ladies. They have horses for sure. 100%. 100%. Only thing about Nashville is they

don't really believe in sidewalks. They really don't like sidewalks. I've never seen anything discriminated against as much as sidewalks in Nashville. Very bad urban planning. Very bad. They were not. They were like, hey, we're country. We're going to be country forever.

And they didn't realize they were not going to be country forever. They were not ready. That is kind of like very contradictory. As many kids as people have out there, no sidewalks. I know. But you know, oh, you know what I just thought about. Maybe that's why everybody has such close family units because they can't go anywhere. They have to hang out with their siblings.

That's fine. But it's insane. That's why they're also close with their siblings because they couldn't just ride their bike over to their friends' house because they're basically riding on a highway. That's a really good thought. It's a really interesting thought. Oh, I've been doing this new thing lately. I haven't told you. Oh.

So first of all, when we pray at night with the kids, I've been really trying to pray for a bubble of protection. No, I like bubbles of protection too, but. Binding Satan. Binding Satan. I like that one as well. And I pray for angels. I was like, so those are, I got those in the bag. What I've really been praying about is, like, our family unit and, like, teaching our kids that, besides the relationship with God, like, the number one most important thing is family and your siblings.

Like, because I feel like that's a huge miss that. that some parents forget. Like you sometimes forget to like teach your kids that you're on the same team. And like if one person fails, you all fail or like how important it is to stick up for each other or to be there for each other. Because like we, I know we're going to fight. But like at the same time,

like your, your siblings are your number one because your mommy and daddy, we're going to pass away one day sooner than y'all. Like y'all are going to have each other. And we're not going to always be there. And so I've been really trying to like, teach and it's been working. So like the other day,

Stella had a baggie full of jelly beans. And she asked if I could, she could have some and I was like, yeah, you can have five because you're five years old. And she had five. And so then Stratton came in the room, of course,

and she's like chewing the jelly beans. And Shatten's like, I want some, I want some. And I'm like, Stratton, those are Stella's jelly beans and he starts throwing a fit

and like going crazy. And Stella goes over and goes, here, Baba, you know what? It's your birthday. So you can have four. And so she gives him four, but he's upset because he doesn't like the colors. So he starts throwing another fit.

And he's like, I don't like the colors. I wanted red. I wanted blue, blah, blah. And she goes, she looks at me. And she goes, here, Bubba, you can have the whole bag. It's because it's your birthday. And gave her the whole bag. Did you ask her if she liked the jelly beans?

No, she liked him. She was eating them. Oh, she did? Yeah. Because I could tell her, she's very good at being like, I actually don't want this toy. so here's this. No, I know what you're talking about and she does do that a lot

but she's been begging me every single day if she could have more of those jelly beans. Wow. She gave up to him, I promise. I believe you. She's been doing stuff like that and then this morning

she got dressed and I always put stuff on her you know, her pick out her outfit but she hates whenever I pick dresses that have zippers. Well, she had Bubba slip up her dress for her. That's so sweet. It's so precious.

So precious. But no like and and so like whenever I talk about like our family unit, they get, I'll like do like, I'll get us like in a huddle kind of like before like a soccer game or something. And they love it. And they're like if they're like if somebody messes with mommy, then Bubba has her back. If somebody messes with me, then Bubba has my back. If somebody messes with daddy, then mommy has daddy's back. And like they've been like talking about it and like reiterating it to me.

And it's like working. No, babe, you're so good at this stuff. I know. You're so good. I know. Live in it. Do it. It's why I married you.

Amazing mother. I love it. It's so cute. You know, something I've been wanting to talk about is, did you hear about this new secret, this new slow-mo OC? Yeah, they're going to try and franchise it like the housewives, right? Yes. There's so many LGS everywhere.

They could do Utah, California. But it wasn't Aspen over or not? She married Parker who was LDS. Oh, he was L-D-S. Yeah. So she's like, she's definitely, like, deserves to be on the show. You know what I'm going to tell you? It's going to be a better.

The Mormon church is not happy right now. They love their image. They love, they've got some great PR teams. They do not like this. The two things they don't like, the Book of Mormon Broadway show and the secretalized Mormon wise. Yeah. For sure.

But you know, like every, you know, the Catholic church, they take some hits, you know, the Protestant church. took some hits with all those hills songs that people really like to just like ding well because it's so interesting it's so different it's different yeah but i guess so is catholicism and everything you know but no but it's it's it is it's interesting it's like it's more of like a bubble that we're also like new it's newer yeah right but very prominent yeah very growing i think it's like one of the fastest growing religions in the united states of america yeah so I genuinely think it will be better,

better than the other one. You think? Oh, 1,000 percent. I mean, you got Aspen Ovard. She's a thruple. She's in a thruple. Yeah. You know that?

Madison Bontempo with the world's cutest children besides my own. Dude, her kids are beautiful children. They're just those blue eyes. It's crazy. Yeah. They're like baby models. Little baby models. she's um she's really sweet uh you got abry woods um which she's kind of like um people love to hate her

well okay so we sat next to a girl on an airplane who just like on the way home from nashville who was like you know she just we you know we were just talking having conversation and um she had just gone on farmer once wife or whatever yeah anyway she started opening up about like all the shows that she likes and doesn't like and all the influencers she loves and doesn't love she had a big thing against avery woods i think so i'm not a huge like i i like text abier woods like or not like we're sorry i don't text her like we're friends like but i'm like i have her number and i've texted her about like a giveaway or like this or that but we're not like i don't know her at all um but and i don't keep up with all of her stories or her posts or anything but i think what

the culture around abry woods is that she was a nurse married to a police officer and then has now like exploded and people are and like she has this like new beautiful house and she's like smoking hot now and very sexy you know and I think people kind of miss the old relatable Avery Woods which just kind of happens to like every influencer like you like they're so like humble and they're just like you and they're so real and then they like explode and now it's like who is this person it's such an interesting like fork in the road in the influencer career because I think two things happen. So like you start out super relatable creating content from your bedroom, right? But then there's so much money in this

industry. You start making money. And people either go one of two ways. They either lean into I need to show less of my life and be more private and convince my audience that I'm still relatable. the example of this is like showing off your Walmart bag but then like having the designer bag it's walking dinner yeah so it's like that's the example but I think that that creates like this weird rift in people because you're not authentic so you're kind of like living this character yeah and it's supposed to be a real relatable authentic and the internet is so smart they like no yeah they somehow know so so some people take that path and they're like you know I'm just going to like not be myself. I'm going to be relatable version. And then others lean into it. And they're

like, I do have wealth now. I am different. All that. And I feel like that's what Avery's doing. And so she's kind of doubling down. Yeah, she's owning it. And I feel like her confidence makes people really uncomfortable. But I kind of love her confidence. I love when people are just who they want to be and they don't hide it. But I also think there's another like road that you can take is, No matter like who you are, how successful you are, how famous you are, like, I guess, like Alex Earl is a good example. You're still always going to have struggles. And like you're still always going to find ways. There's always ways to be relatable because an emotion is an emotion is an emotion. Like you can have everything in the world and still feel depression or you can have, which is the same thing as like some, the average Joe living across the street. You know, like everybody can kind of experience like the like similar things.

And so there's also a path where you can, you know, get all the awards, do all this, but still kind of be real about like what's going on. And my opinion is it's the hardest path to take. And it's like people like, people like, well, smell a spoil in. No, no, no, not. No, I don't think it even. I would say that you did this well, right? I would say Alex Earle is doing this well where they like remain like their, the context of their life changes and their environment.

changes and their wealth changes, but they don't change. And so people follow them along the changes and are actually happy for them throughout those changes. In my opinion, the only way that you accomplish that path is you, and you can't fake this, you have to be genuinely humble as a person. You had, you had to go through some puberty probably. You had to like go through some trial or conflict in your life that like made it to where you know that you don't deserve what you're being given and it probably was luck of the draw and like

you're grateful and people see that and I think that with Avery she her her status changed so drastically like I didn't even know she was a barista at Starbucks and then a nurse and then you know married it all happened so fast and I think we struggled with this too it all it's like boom like over like three years it changes so rapidly that I think like She'll. It's almost like you make the full cycle. She'll, yeah. Everybody has to come around.

And honestly, the internet's so flippant. They'll love her tomorrow. So true. She's going to go on the show and then everyone's going to be like, I hate her. I love her. I hate her. Yeah, I like her. But I like that she's confident in doubling down.

She's like, even if people don't like where she's at, she's at least being honest about it. So true. This is what they do these days. Who does that? Ginzy. Oh. It's like, yeah. Queen. It's kind of like one of those things.

It's kind of like. It's kind of like. But like, it's like, you know, we used to do this. And now it's like. Yeah, yeah. It's like. Okay, I got it. Okay, let's go get you pull away. Okay, okay.

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