De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - Dani's Unexpected Breakdown.

Episode Date: July 31, 2025

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Save the every day. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast. D-influence. You know, I'm a little offended today. I can tell you're offended. I can't figure out why, though. Are I... I...

No. Oh, that's what I was talking about. No, you've done nothing wrong. I found not that you're going to try to make chicken and dumplings this weekend at the lake. And I thought, man, I'm such a lucky woman. Because, sorry, woman. I literally can't say it, right? I just said women for a woman.

Anyway, yeah, that I have a man that's going to make me chicken and dumplings. That's not all you said downstairs though. You go, that should be interesting, which I thought was very condescending. I called you out on it. I said, don't be negative. I wasn't being negative. I said, this should be interesting. And it should be.

I am thankful and I'm really hopeful. You know, you also told me you said you should go watch my highlight. Like you made my chicken and dumplings about you. No, I'm just saying I made chicken and dumplings about six months ago. And if you need help, I have a highlight saved. I might, I might watch it. It's not, it's not an easy task. Yeah.

You might be a little in over your dumpling. Well, what I, what I did was I, I Googled best, slow cooker recipe in chicken and dumplings is at the top. Yeah, see, the only thing is, is at the lakehouse, like, we have to, like, be there. So we just have to, we'll just, you know, we'll have to be there. We can't be, like, out of the pool or something. Yeah, but I thought, no, you kind of, like, set it up, and it runs for, like, five hours. Yeah, but, you know, like, you know, two hours later, you got to add something,

you got to do something. Yeah, we're always there. Maybe stir, maybe flip, like, yeah, so. I'm just trying to stay busy over here. No, I'm, I am so proud of you. It's going to be great. I've also really been crush in the Ninja Creamy. You've never, to this day, tried one of my McFlurries that I've made in the Ninja Creamy.

I know, you know, I'm just really not, I'm not really a healthy ice cream gal. Like, if I'm craving. But you haven't even tried it. You don't understand. I know. It's like a healthy McFlurie. I don't want to like it. I can tell.

I also don't like the fact that it's chocolate based. I don't like chocolate ice cream. I'm bringing vanilla mix this time. Then I'm more likely to try it. I'm also not like a Reese's in my ice cream fan. Like peanut butter should not be my ice cream. You know what I got for you? Oreos.

I'd do like an Oreo or two. So I feel like this is the weekend that you're going to try it. Yeah, maybe. It's just also like one of those things is like if I want ice cream, like I want, you know, Bluebell. I'm not trying to be healthy while I eat ice creams you know what I mean I think you should just give it a shot if I want to be healthy I just won't eat ice cream It feels like you're being really stubborn in this I feel like you should just try it okay Just try it I'll try it let's try it let's try it I'll see how it goes I'm also gonna grill wow okay and then I'm also

When are we have time for all these activities? No I have a I made myself a meal schedule Wow for the family this is this is why I'm married him because he plans out the timing of cooking the schedules. I mean, cooking schedule. Yeah. That is something I've never done in my life. It's like plan to schedule for eating or cooking. Yeah, no, it's so fun. You just make everything. It's so fun. Do you not like cooking? No, I just don't like scheduling. It's really my biggest issue. But if you don't schedule it, how do you know what you're going to cook and then how do you have the grocery store trip before. Two words. DoorDash. Got it. I don't think they deliver out there. I know. I know. That's why it is, yeah, it is a little bit more of a feat to go out to the

lakehouse because it's like, I personally would rather starve. We're about three weeks away from me catching a fish, filleting it, and serving it for lunch. We're pretty close. The only problem is I truly have not caught a fish in a month and a half. I just can't imagine that. those waters are healthy. Well, yeah, you don't eat catfish. Okay. Why? There's trout in there. Trout, you can.

What about a rainbow trout? I don't think they have rainbow trout. But I actually don't ask me these questions because I don't know the difference. I knew you want to know. I have no idea. So I was asking you. What's the difference between a trout and a fish? A trout is a fish.

Well, I like just a normal fish and a trout. Well, you got bass, you got catfish, you got trout. What's the difference between a bass and a trout? They look different. There you go. I don't think people really eat bass either. They do. They don't.

True, right? Yeah. You eat sea bass, but not, you don't eat bass. Like, you don't, it's a very like sportsman fish. You catch and release. I see, I see. But like I said, I have not caught a fish in about a month and a half. So I'm trying to figure that one out with chat, GPT, but it's not.

What's your bait? It's your problem. It's your problem. The bait. is the problem. So your dad comes out to the lake and he just gets live bait. So he just stops at the gas station and gets minnows, which is basically like fishing with dynamite.

It's too easy. It's a cheat code. I'm trying to be a real fisherman. A real fisherman, which means I use lures. And people say, listen, all these guys at the lake are trying to mentor me. And they keep sending me in different directions. Because one's like you got to have a chatter bait. And then the other one's like Thunder cricket.

And I'm like, hey, I'm not catching anything on this. And they keep saying, but when you do, it'll change your life. And so far, I've given this about a month and a half. And I'm pretty close to just going back to the plastic worms, which are all faithful, in my opinion. But I think it's a lot like golf where you can over-engineer it as much as you want. Like you can spend all this time. I need this club.

I need this gadget. I need this. And like at the end of the day, like, just get out there and play golf. I think just get out there and fish and fish with a rubber worm and you're probably fine. Okay. But it's it's quite embarrassing. I mean, I've changed my reel. I've changed my rod.

I've changed my locations. I've changed my timing. I just, I prayed about it. And I said, God grant me the ability to be a fisher of men. And he said no. And so I'm trying to figure out the lesson in all.

this. He said, you will not fish fish, you will fish men. No, he didn't say that. But maybe he's trying. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe he's trying. And so, yeah, maybe this weekend. And I also don't have a lot of time because the kids only like when I fish for like five minutes. And then they say, we're bored. Can we leave? True. Can we do the water slide? So I'm probably going to have to put you to bed, put everyone to bed, then head out, be just me and God and the fish. Just you and the fish. You and the big guy. Just praying for a solution. Well, good luck with that this weekend.

Sounds like you have a busy schedule. I have a really busy schedule. We never got to talk about why I was offended. About the chicken and dumplings? No, I did it. I wasn't offended about the chicken and dumplings. So you were offended about something else coming into the chicken and dumplings call? No, no.

Into the podcast. Yes, why were you offended? I was offended because we didn't make Time 100 magazine's top podcasts. That makes sense. I know. It adds up. It adds up. It is crazy, though, how many podcasters, top podcasters, like, in the world are not on those lists.

Like, it's just so silly. Joe Rogan's not even on this list. Oh, that's bullcrap. And he's literally number one every single week. He's number one by far. If Yovon is always, like, number three to five. he's not on the list. Wait, who's on this list?

Honestly, armchair expert. Okay, you like them. Is that DAC? Yeah. Let's see. Call her Daddy. Yeah. Let's see.

Mel Robbins. I don't see Mel Robbins. Serial. Cereal, the original serial? Reply all. Radio Lab. Let's see, Planet Money. These are like OGs though.

Let's see, making Oprah. Where's Oprah at these days? She's just, she in Hawaii still? I think she's got houses all over. Yeah. Good hang with Amy Polar. Amy Poller is funny. Yeah, I mean, it's really,

oh, Dirty John, that made one. Um, wait, is this like of all time? Yeah. But still, Conan O'Brien needs a friend. Uh, call our daddy, bodega boys. I mean, the Joe Rogan thing is clearly political because that makes no sense. Like he's so far ahead of the game. So far ahead of the game.

Oh, it looks like new heights maybe with Travis Kelsey and what's the other one? Do people listen to that though, or do they just watch the clips? I guess you'll listen to it. Huh. Yeah, that, oh, Tucker calls in all, I mean, honestly, I wouldn't expect him, but he's always in the top ten these days. And he didn't make it. Who, what celebrity do you wish had a podcast? Taylor Swift.

That would have such interesting, like, oh, I would just, I would love to know what she's thinking each week. Let's see. Who, what about you? I can't think of anyone that I am like, I wish that I knew their thoughts regularly. Shilabuff. That doesn't. Yeah, he'd probably be interesting. Yeah.

Because he's got a lot of thoughts, like it seems like on a wide spectrum of emotions. Like he's sometimes very angry. Sometimes very creative. Sometimes very creative. Been through a lot. Yeah. Yeah, he would be good. I would, maybe like Adam Sandler, like just hanging out with his friends.

Totally. It would be so funny. He would be just, but you know, I don't know, you know, he actually reminds, he, I would think of Adam Sandler as a funny guy on TV and he can do some comedy, but I don't think he's like funny off screen. Yeah. No, I wouldn't think so. Like a lot of comedians are just like good, they're good performers, but they're not actually

funny when you hang out with them. Yeah. You got to watch that, you know, the show I always talk about is getting coffee. and cars with comedians or whatever. Yeah, with Jerry Seinfeld. And you get to see these comedians and they're not funny. But you know who would be funny? Oh, you know my favorite little guy.

Kevin Hart. Oh my gosh. I think, man, him and Well Farrell, I would love for them to have a podcast and just talk about random stuff. You could have Kevin Hart and who's the other little person that you're weary of? I don't want that scared me. Sabrina Carpenter. No, I don't want to hear her thoughts.

really on anything at all. It would just anger me. I think Gracie Abrams would be interesting. She seems like she's... Daughter to my favorite director. I've told you this. Yeah. JJ?

Creator of Lost? Yep. Yep. What shows are you watching these days? Amy Bradley is missing. That's a good one. Yeah, she went missing from this cruise ship. Did they know what line? Royal Caribbean.

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Danny. Y'all stop guessing, start knowing. But there's like kind of like a lot of conspiracy theories about where she ended up. That was, that's a really good documentary. Let's see. The summer I turned pretty. Oh my gosh. I'm just waiting for the Conrad reunion. And I was like, yeah, my God, I was just, I've always kind of been team con. It's on. It's on. I was just about to say, are you team Conrad or team Jeremiah? And I was, we, I actually, we would get enough fight, I think, if you told me Jeremiah, I can't stand it. No, I'm not Jeremiah.

Thank God. Conrad. Thank God. Conrad always had, like, the more depth. Like, he's like, so much death. He's like my Edward colon. Like, I was never like a Jacob. Like, yeah, Jake came in.

He was hot stuff. Like, yeah, I get the appeal. But I was always like, Edward. Jeremiah? I can't. I have too many thoughts. I can't. Is Jeremiah the guy we met? Yeah, Gavin Kasselagin. Yeah. Sweet guy. Oh, okay. That's a guy. Like in person. So, oh my gosh, such a great guy. He's from, I think the Dallas area. Yeah, he goes to, yeah. He's a strong Christian. Yeah, strong believer. Such a solid dude. Um, but, but yeah, I've always, the character, Conrad's character. I mean, come on. He's like in med. school. He's smart. He's driven. And then you got Jeremiah who can't even like pass a great like this must be like this doesn't seem like a show that husbands watch with their wives. No. Because honestly,

it's too. In the acting, I think that everyone has gotten better with the acting and the production has gotten a little bit better. Jeremiah like I love you, but it's so bad. He got to step it up a little bit. So bad. No, he's so sweet, though. I love him. I love him. But, yeah, so that, I don't know when the next, I'm, I'm waiting for episode three. Oh, episode three's out.

Oh, good. Episode three, it comes out on Wednesday. Okay. What network is, or what streaming service? Probably Hulu if I had to guess. No, it's Amazon Prime. Oh. Yeah, I kind of just make my rounds.

When I go on the TV, I just go Hulu, Amazon Prime, like, what's out, you know. I will say, I've noticed though, because I watched, have you watched We Were Liars or We Are Liars or whatever it is? I tried. I can't get into that. The acting's so bad. That's why I have a hard time with shows that have bad acting. This is why it's crazy that I've made it through the summer I turned pretty because

the acting was so bad that like I'm sorry, I can't. Like I never could do. I was never like a pretty little liars girl. Like I couldn't get into those like really cheesy whatever shows. is because it just, I mean, it's cringe. No,

it's so bad. It's so cringe. But the summer I turned pretty, like I could, I let myself go there. I let myself go there. So yeah, I did summer I turn pretty.

I've been listening to, you know, my usual, it's a lot of Theo Vaughn. He had Sam Altman on the podcast yesterday. I thought we could listen to that on the way to the lake. Is it not funny though?

No, it's not funny at all. And honestly, Theo Vaughn just asked like the same question. He's like, man, so I don't understand. Like,

is AI going to take over the world? like he just comes from this like place of fear the whole time where you're just like okay like yeah but i mean the craziest thing about so sam altman is one of the founders of open ai he's like a bazillionaire and um and you know he if anyone would know or have an idea of where chat chp t slash ai is taking us it would be this man he has no idea or that's how he makes it sound on the podcast like he's like, Theo's like, so our job is going to be like eradicated because of A and he's like, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

Yeah, that's going to happen. And then Theo's like, that's so scary man. So like, what should we be doing? He's like, well, I don't know. Nobody can tell the future. You know, like we're just, you know, it just is what it is. And like every generation, you know, it's true that every generation, some big form of technology comes out that everybody thinks is the devil, like Google.

when Google came out, all the teachers are like, oh my gosh, my children in class are going to learn anything because now they can just Google everything and they can just find all this information on the internet without learning through books. And we all thought it was like the Antichrist. And then the next thing that comes out, you know, the iPhone and then this and then that. I will say this one does feel a little different because I don't think that any innovation or technology has ever been able to replicate a human and like the creativity of a human like this before. So it is now it's like not just coming for like the technical jobs. It's coming for like the creative jobs too, which is very scary. But I'm kind of like I feel like I am kind of on the opposite side where I'm like everybody just like get it together and adapt. Like okay. Like it's coming whether you like it or not.

And so just download it, use it. And honestly, you better teach your kids how to use it because otherwise they're going to go out to the world and they're not going to know how to get a job. Because all of their people are going to be like using AI to, you know, build these websites and build all these really cool platforms and build scripts or build whatever. And your kid's going to be like, I have to go to the encyclopedia to look up a word. And it's going to be like, sorry, takes too long. You're fired. Get out, nerd. Yeah, like we don't do books around here anymore.

You know what I think merging is going to look like, though? It's a little nerling thing. You're going to have like, you're going to have like the transhuman. So Sam actually, because one of Theo's first question was like, Sam, like, because apparently there's been a lot of talk about, like, one day pregnancy or, you know, like, actually growing babies will be outside the womb. Like, it'll now be like, because technically it adds up. Like, they could probably do that, you know, give all the nutrients and everything and just grow it basically in one of those little glass tubes.

And like you could go to the hospital and visit your little, you know, whatever, what do you call it, fetus. Yeah, yeah, fetus. Whatever. Put signs on it, figure out what the genders. And Theo's like, it doesn't sound crazy, you know, that that could be the future. And Sam was like, you know, I don't know, I just feel, he just had a kid. He's like six months old or something. I wonder if he's to see me just something.

They're at the birthdays. They can combine. And so he was like, I don't know. I feel like with all this technology and AI, where everything is headed, some of like the most sacred human rituals, like pregnancy or prayer or whatever, will be extremely protected and sacred.

Because everything else is going to be like so. Like, he's like, you just can't take away that human part of us. That like we want, because he was even talking about this like, I can't remember what it's called, but basically like this wealth project where all of like what AI does like all of the billions of dollars it generates we all would receive like tokens like almost like not it doesn't take

away capitalism because you still have to like do what you want with your tokens but we all receive this just like common currency and we all receive the same amount so that we all feel like it's like the universal basic income yes yes and we all feel bought into AI and we all feel bought into like what it's working towards. And he was like, it's an interesting thought, but like you also can't take away the human part of us,

that human agency that like wants to feel like we did it ourselves. And like we earned what we got. Because that will like send us all into a depression if we're all just like given, you know, like just given this universal basic income or wealth. He called it universal wealth income.

I can't remember. What was the results of the study done? on UBI. Because they did this, they tested this in Silicon Valley. All these billionaires were like, ah, we don't need income.

Like, let's just do it. And they gave it to a bunch of people. 3,000 low income participants in Texas and Illinois from 2020 to 2023. Um, received universal basic income. Labor participation dropped only by two percentage points. Um,

recipients worked 1.3 to 1.4 fewer hours per week. Time freed up was mostly used for leisure, not education, job training, or new business ventures. Some short-term improvements including reduced stress, better food security, slight increase in health care spending, but no substantial health gains or improvements in employment quality. Because you could still take your tokens and invest with them and build off of them too. Like you still have, you know, I don't know, I mean, it's... You had hard pregnancies. Would you grow a baby outside of your womb? It's kind of weird.

Oh, it's tempting. I'm like my life. But, well, gosh. I know, right? I mean, they said, too, like, it would be, like, a lot healthier because you would make sure your, like, babies getting exactly what they need and everything. Yeah.

I'm not going to lie. It's a thought. It's a thought. It's a thought. You know? I mean, if I'm not doing anything wrong. Yeah, like it's your baby. It's just not your womb.

I mean, it's the same thing when people use surrogates. I personally would. I would. I would do it. For sure. Leading the charge. You're starting the conversation. I'd have to think about like biblically what they

say about that but you know it's cool of god i'm being like absolutely for sure yeah i was reading that um that like birth rates are at our all-time low oh yeah i know i mean we've always we know in that but like i just saw another study it was like the average child that like amount of children that someone has is like 1.26 or something i was like i don't really understand yeah i never understand that The point two is like, what does that mean? I guess he's just kind of round down there. So one. So what we're saying is one.

There's one point two children. Yeah, so, which is kind of, it's kind of scary to think of like a world of only children. That's so true. You know, culturally. How, I mean, maybe that'll be a good for us. only children are always just such amazing people you know wait wait no no no they are it's because their parents gave paid so much attention to them i every single only child i ever knew they're like 11 years old and their mom's like bring the cavernay from 1942 and and the child's like

you're coming right up mother mother and like like knows multiple languages went to the like most amazing private school super privilege can like can like ride can drive a plane what do you fly a plane but also like has all these tutors they're they're very successful people these only children that seems really anecdotal no it is not i know a lot of only children i really do yeah i do and i grew up with quite a few of them one of my best friends what are five with their names Kendall cars Preston hex Colin mangram brandon young this is just annoying like You're being so annoying.

Like, I got four really fast. Okay, okay, that's fair. It's just I feel like the stereotype with the only children is that they struggle to work well with others.

They're slightly on the more selfish side. All those people I named are like probably very successful people and. No, not success or unsuccessful. They struggle to get along with people? Just, no, just like a little bit more like,

struggle with being self-absorred because they only have themselves. See, I just think they're mature. I think they're like mature. mature people because they like didn't have to deal with all that bull crap growing up like your sibling fighting with you and like somebody taking your toys like you probably just like grow up more peaceful because like nobody's taking your ish all the time and then you get to like be mature where you're like in high school and college and you learn quickly if i don't share i'm not going to have

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Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So we have elements of that self-absorption, you know. We're such narcissists. We are narcissists. I bet if you, okay, I bet if you looked at the statistics or the numbers of like influencers, like OG influencers, like people back in the day that were like, I'm going to be an influencer and people are like, no, you're not.

You know, I bet those, more of them had like, seen, uh, they were only children. Only children traits. Yeah. Probably. Maybe like a little more narcissistic. But then they all went on, because they were all Mormon, all the OGs, and then they went on to have many not only children. They had like seven kids. You have to, like, separate the Mormons because they're, this, that's like a religious thing.

Like they wanted to. True. It's part of their. It's separate. It's part of their mission. For sure. So. anyway

oh this actually does kind of lead to one of our things that make you go hmm chat chabit may be eroding your critical thinking skills I think this is such bull crap recent MIT study suggests that freaking use of chat chvety may erode critical thinking

and memory participants who relied on the AI to write essay showed lower brain engagement produced less original words and struggled to recall what they'd written, indicating a buildup of cognitive debt. Even when they stopped using Chitabit, their mental effort didn't fully rebound. While experts warn the findings are preliminary

and based on a small sample, the research highlights the risks of over-relying on AI tools as mental shortcuts rather than using them to support deeper thinking. Okay, I understand this if it's like coming from, like if you're a student. But like, I learned so much from Chachybt, and like, I don't think it's eroding my critical thinking skills. I think it helps me.

Because I'll ask it, I'll be like, why does everybody hate Sam Altman? You know? And then I get to hear like, oh, well, Sam Hallman is a controversial figure because da-da-da-da-da. And then I'll be like, who else founded Open AI with Sam Altman? And it's like Peter Thiel. And I'm like, oh, what are Peter Thiel and they're in Sam Altman's relationship like now? And I'm just, I'm critically thinking all over the board, you know?

And like, I don't think it makes me think less. I think it makes me think more. I don't know. And honestly, if I didn't have it, I just wouldn't have asked. I wouldn't go Google it. It's just too much work. I think that the argument they're making is like the less that we have to engage in those parts of our brain. Like, okay, this is a great example.

Remember growing up, like, I could remember like all my friend's phone numbers. Yeah. I can't, like, do you know my phone number? Yeah. Do you do? Yeah. Okay, I know yours, but I couldn't tell you my mom's or. or my dads or my brothers or all these numbers I used to remember.

I know all my family memories. Really? Yeah. I have this like weird thing about my childhood though. I remember everything. Yeah, I know. We should get into that later.

But like, so you also have really good long-term memory, but if I asked you what we talked about like five seconds ago, you're like, you like wouldn't remember a thing. And like you always have these thoughts. And then I'm like, oh, what is it?

And you're like, I forgot. I know. but I know a lot of fun numbers. But I think the point that they're making is like, I think that we can get so lazy like having the AI think for us that without engaging in that part of our brain, like we almost like forget how to do it.

But I don't know. How would I think it if I don't know? If I don't know who Peter Thiel is and then I can't think it, I have to ask it. No, no, I think what you're talking about is gaining information to critically think about it. And what that article is talking about is people being like, what should I think about this? But here's the thing.

People have been doing this, copying things from books, copying things from Google from the beginning of time. Like, I've been doing that forever. Like, I know you're not supposed to. But there would be times I'd be sitting in class and I'd be taking notes and like writing. I literally, an hour later, I'm like, I have no idea what I just learned. No idea. So what you're saying is that original thought has always been dead. I just think it takes a certain type of person and a certain type of topic to get you interested.

Here's the thing. I find War II fascinating now. Like, I literally could have cared less in high school and even in college about history. I became obsessed with history as I got older. I could not have told you what War II was about in high school or college. Yeah. I literally didn't know. I actually don't know what point you're trying to make.

Me either. I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm like, but did you remember the LMO? I have no idea what you're talking about. You're now talking about how you didn't want to learn about what we're two in your childhood, but now you do. And I can't figure out the thread how this ties back to chat Chb-D. Because my point is, is that I think as you get older and as you mature, you start to become more interested about things. And I think they're studying all these kids that are in school, that they're like, wow, it's eroding your critical thinking skills.

everything erodes your critical thinking skills when you're in school you don't care okay you just don't care that's a really good that's why i'm saying like even if you give a kid like i remember like back in our day if you had to do like write an essay about something we had to go to the library and we had to check the books out and that had to be like your source right sometimes if you were lucky enough you got into the computer lab and you could have an internet source but that was rare like guys like what year did you graduate college. I'm talking about in like middle school high school. Oh, I'm so sorry. Okay. Yes. Yes. That's correct. You didn't have to go to the library in high school. I mean, we both went to public school, but I don't remember checking out books for your like essays that you do write. I don't remember

writing essays in middle school. See, he doesn't remember anything. It's so bad. I spent a lot of time at the library because I actually did. Sure, sure. And not see now you made me forget my You gotta stop using chat gvety. It's a running. You've got no brain left. You're gonna have to get the neural link and just merge with it. Just merge with it. My point was, is that there would be sometimes I would just check out these books

and I would just copy like a sentence or two from the book. I'd be like, World War II happened in, you know, 19, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, because you're like, what is my fifth grade teacher going to like check out this book and catch me? Like, yeah, right. Or sometimes you could put like the source that you use at the end. You know. So basically your career was built on plagiarism.

Probably, honestly, for sure. No, for sure. Are you kidding me? All of ours were. Yeah. We all copied lines and books. Yeah, for sure. But then in college when you had like the essays,

but they could like submit their essay into like the plagiarism reader. Yeah. Then so I quit doing it. What if what if there was never a plagiarism reader? And that was just like this fictitious thing that the universities made up? No, I knew it was real because like some of my friends got in trouble for it. Oh, really? It'd be like 30% of your essay is plagiarized.

So now, though, I guess maybe, oh my gosh. Do you remember there was like a thing where you could like take a picture of a math problem and like upload it and it would do the math problem for you? I never could figure it out. But it was cool. Do you remember that? No. In college? Yeah.

No. I mean, that makes sense that that existed. See, this is what I always did. And like, I don't know if it still like exists. I'm sure the cheat. You can say it because the cheating's got to be way more sophisticated now. No, I wasn't even cheating because this was on, but like, okay, so like I would go to, like, if I had a Chem301 exam, you know, on, I don't know, hydrogen. Okay.

So I would just Google like chem 301 hydrogen exams and I would print them all out and I would use those as like my practice studies and always one of them was the exam. It happened every time. Wait, I'm sorry. I missed it. So, like, I would just find them online. Like, they were just there. Like, I don't know who's uploading them.

Like, other schools are uploading them as. And then the teachers, they think they're getting so sneaky on us. They would take like seven questions and then like, and then take a chunk of like another test and do like another seven questions. And I did all of those practice exams for to study. And I, so by the time I was like, I've already seen a lot. these questions. Sometimes they would change the numbers, though.

You know what it always was fascinating to me is the kids. What were those big calculators, T-83? Oh, yeah, T-I-A-83. The kids who knew how to like hide answers, like deep within the calculator. Or like, um. So it's like not on the main screen, but they were able to like toggle and like scroll down. And it's like, I can never, the furthest I could come to is I figured out how to write boobs on the calculator.

And like, we just thought it was hilarious. That was like sixth grade, to be fair. It wasn't like high school. 8.0.085. I remember to this day. I'm literally dead. No, what I would do is I would just, like, right before the test would begin, I would look at like the cheat sheet, you know, and I would take a mental picture.

And then as soon as they say, go, I would write down all the formulas immediately, you know? There's no way you did that. I'm just saying you can't, there's no way your short-term memory was firing on those. It was. This was back in the day. What happened? Well, no, I'm actually really good. It's like I still do that.

Sometimes when I'm doing a script for Divi or for a script for a brand deal. Yeah. I have great short term memory. We just talked about how you didn't. You're like Dory. We make that joke all the time. Hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Let's try it. I can't read. Okay. Mental snapshot. What was it? Day 3, 5, 4. Okay. you're right that does look like it's a five but it looks like check wait so what was it j354

yeah you're good okay wow impeccable you can ask me later on this episode okay um it it does seem before we move on it does seem like in this episode you're a little bit on one today is there was that from the frustration before the podcast what did you say that frustration was because we didn't make the time 100. Oh, so is that feeling you're feisty in a lot of your feedback today. I am not feisty. A little bit. I am not. You're you're doing a lot of you know what back in my you're you're doing a lot of. So you don't, you want me to calm down? No, no, I'm, I'm just trying. So you're saying you don't like my personality. No, I'm trying to meet you where you're at today. I'm trying to I'm trying to I'm trying to understand what type of tone, what type of mood are we in. Why does it matter? It doesn't matter. Let's keep going.

God, you're annoying me. I knew it. This is what I was trying to call out with the chicken and dumplings. Like, I don't know how to explain it. Like, I told you I was cooking chicken and dumplings and I saw contempt in your eyes. And I was like, why do you hate me right now? And then you come up here and you confuse me because you're like, oh my gosh, I'm so lucky to have this happen.

I'm like, you literally were staring like fireballs into my soul. I was not. You know what? It just hurts my feelings that you... She's going to cry. I want to make chicken and dumplings instead of being out with me. I knew it. I knew it.

I knew it. Instead, you want to make chicken and dumplings. She's actually crying. It's like a whole day activity. What about me? It's a slow cooker. The recipe literally said 10 minutes of prep time, five hours of cooking in a slow cooker.

Anyway. Oh man, that's so real though. I knew it wasn't about the time 100. I knew something with these chicken dumplings. And that's my favorite meal. And you come in here and you act like it's not special. Oh my gosh. You're just going to make it on a random Saturday.

Either your PMSing or you're pregnant will have to let the audience decide. This is what I meant. This is why I had to stop the podcast. I was like, I'm scared to, I'm scared to take another stuff forward. For real? Oh my God. No, I'm embarrassed. No, you're not embarrassed.

It's okay. Have I been really mean? No, you haven't been mean to me. You're just mad at chat GPT in the world. You know what? And yourself are not wanting to learn about World War II in high school and waiting until adulthood. Oh, my. my gosh.

Anyway. You're going to talk about something else that really piss me. Okay, for real. Things that make you go, hmm, did you hear about what Matt Healy's, Maddie Healy's mom said about Taylor Swift? Is that her ex-boyfriend?

Yes. Yeah, what did she say? So watch what happened live is Maddie Healy's mom, Denise Welch, Cheekly said she's glad she's not glad she's glad not to be Taylor Swift's mother-in-law A role she joked, she's happy to have lost. She admitted the situation was tricky but clarified she has nothing against Taylor personally. It doesn't sound like it, Denise. Denise also pointed out the irony that Swift couldn't talk during the relationship

but later released an entire album possibly inspired by it. She added that Maddie took it all in stride and is now happily engaged with the family fully moved on. direct quote. Obviously, on pain of death, can I talk about that? Obviously, on pain of death, can I talk about that episode? But not being her mother-in-law is the role that I am glad that I lost. Not that I have anything against her at all. It was just, it was tricky.

She, listen, you're not allowed to say anything. And then she writes a whole album about it. It's not wrong. She's not wrong. Yeah, she's not wrong. Yeah. Like, meaning she was probably under NDA. Yeah, I'm sure.

And then she like gets to release like a whole. I'm sure you can't even be in like the same building as Taylor without signing an D.A. Gosh, that's got to be hard. I know. But I think it's like it's probably to the point where she doesn't even ask. Like it's like all of her people. Well, we know that's not true unless our. Stop, stop.

We're not doing there. Guys, yeah, we can't. Okay. Sometimes we know things and we can't tell you. Okay. We signed a Taylor NDA? No, we didn't, but we kind of didn't. But we're scared.

We're scared of, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, that has to be really frustrating when it's like, I bet they signed all these NDAs. They can't say one bad thing about Taylor Swift, yet she can write a whole album exposing their relationship, exposing the smallest man that ever lived. And he can't really, but you know what? I don't feel bad for him because he can write an album too. Yeah. You know?

Wasn't he like not a good guy? I'm not saying what his mother is saying is not fair. I mean, I think he was like loyal to Taylor. What makes a bad person? I just thought he was like the bad guy, the bad boy. Yeah, but I don't think he was like a bad person. Oh, okay. I think he's just kind of like a party boy.

But like I don't think he did anything wrong. Got it. Um, well, she better be careful, this Denise lady. I know. Because you do not want to upset the Swifties. Do you think she's losing, um, some of her power, though? Like, people are kind of getting over it? No.

Really? Same? Still trucking? Yeah. She should honestly retire after that last, uh, that last tour. I don't think she will. She's going to like come out with another album, so? I would imagine so. She just doesn't seem like she's coming to like her end. Like she just seems like she's,

she feels like she's just getting started sometimes. It's wild. I know. It's really crazy. It's, it's kind of a little like sometimes. That's what I'm saying is like people are kind of like, okay, too much. Like go, go be happy.

Go get married, have some babies. No? I don't think she'll have kids. No, I don't think that's like that she wants that. Interesting. I think she just wants to keep going. More is what she wants. The world, the whole world.

I don't know, because you see Scotty Shuffler, he wins the masters and he's like, I don't get the point. And then you have Taylor Swift that's like going for like 20 years. And she's like, I'm more, more. And like, it's just so, he's Scotty Shuffler just feels so human. Yeah. And she just doesn't. She doesn't feel like a human.

it's like, but why, you know? Why do you keep going? And Scotty was like, I don't know why people keep going. He's like, I just probably won't. Like, I don't, like, I'll do it. But like, if ever gets in the way of my personal life, I won't. And then it's just weird. Do you think that Scotty gained respect from his competitors in the sport after that speech or no?

I think that they probably all, like, were able to take a deep breath and be like, we feel the same way too. bro. Like, I don't know what the point is. Like, I just am doing this because my dad sent me up for golf lessons and put all this pressure on me my entire life and now I have to win. But I don't, I don't even really like it. I think so many people like hate their sport that they play. Oh, oh, like professionally. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of tennis burnouts. That's what I've realized. There's a lot of people who burn out of tennis. Like they're raised, they grow up, they play in college. I think it's because it's a single sport. You don't have a team. That's true.

Says golf, though. I think a lot of people burn out of golf. Yeah. Yeah, and it's like, but I think when you play a team sport, there's so much camaraderie and there's so much, like, you really can't win on your own. You really can't with a team sport. It doesn't matter how good you are. You still have to have the point guard. You still have to have somebody rebounding.

You still have to have, there's not as much pressure on just one person, but those single sports can be a lot of pressure. It's like, it's you. It's just you. but you love it tennis you played today how'd you do um i played okay you know i really think it's my racket i've decided got it got um retuned yeah i need a new racket my racket is so cute it's pink but it's plastic and sometimes when i hit the ball it just spins around in my hands so so i think i need a heavier one where'd you play in the club yeah at the club with the girls with the guys with the guys They invited me to brunch, but I couldn't.

It was busy. Too busy. It's just too busy. I said, I'll meet you for Honored Palmer next week, ladies. So, yeah, that's interesting. Okay, this one's super interesting. Tell me. Things that make you go, hmm.

French president sues Candice Owens. French president, Emmanuel Macron. I don't know if you say it right. I know it's not Macroon, but Macron. And his wife, Brigitte, are suing commentator Candice Owens for defamation in Delaware, accusing her of spreading false conspiracy theory that Brigitte was born male. The lawsuit claims Owens ignored retraction request

and used the smear to boost her podcast and merchandise, causing emotional harm and public humiliation. The 219-page complaint seeks damages in a jury trial, marking a rare defamation case by a world leader in U.S. court. Oh, this makes me cringe. Owens has not yet responded directly, but our team framed the suit as an attack on free speech.

Well, it is hard, I think it's really hard to win a defamation case as a publicly elected official or any type of public figure. Because what the court will say is that the bar is so high to win a defamation case as a public figure,

especially a publicly elected figure. but this one is so personal. I don't know if she does that whole episode on it too. Have you listened to it? Yeah. Does she go like really deep? Like she like actually states like a methodical case. Yeah.

She even talks about how Brigitte was his teacher like growing up and is that true. Like what do you call it when you like try to. from a very young age. Groom. Groom. Like groomed him. Question. And it's weird that...

Did you see that video where she punched him in the face? Yeah. Oh, it was so good. It was so bad. It was so bad. And he just turns around. It was like, honestly, like, it reminds me of one of those, like, Disney Channel movies. Like, you know?

That was a good internet moment. Yeah. It was like, you, this has to be fake. Like, and they just caught, oh, so, yeah. Um, yeah, I mean. Can I, can you just summarize the case that Candace made? Um, she, she was his teacher. She was his teacher in that, I guess, what's the age got?

I guess there's like pictures of Brigitte as a male to, like working at that school or during that time period or something. I don't know. I can't remember. Don't sue me. President. Please. Allegedly. Apparently if you say the word allegedly, then you're clear of everything.

People are like, allegedly, Danny Austin, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, okay, so now it makes it true. The age gap is 24 years. Yeah, 24 years. Dang, that's a big age gap. And they got married. So, like, they were definitely dating when, like, he was underage. What?

They were definitely together. Okay. You also, you don't see a lot. of females dating minors, right? She thinks it's a male. Well, but you do see a lot of like teachers that like sleep with their students that are. Yeah. But maybe those are just like the five and they just get a lot of press coverage because it's so it.

I don't know. I think that the same way that males can groom. Yeah. I think females can too. 24 years is, that's a big age. cap. Yeah. No. Yeah, it's weird. I mean, that, that, that in of itself is weird, but it, the, the only thing that confused me is it feels like Candace Owens wouldn't risk a lawsuit. If she, if she herself, I'm not saying it's true, if she herself didn't feel like it was true.

Like I don't really know I know she's getting a lot more publicity than she did in the past. Sometimes I think she's a little too big for her britches. Okay. So that could be it too. There are some things that she is so confident about and so I know it all about

and I love to hear her opinion on things but I think it's okay to sometimes admit that you don't know you maybe think but then she just, all of her thoughts are fact in her mind. She's probably an eight on the Indian grant. One trillion percent. The thing about eights, love them to death.

She is such an eight. But like, eights are always confident and always right about everything. Everything. There's not a shred of like, I could be, I could be wrong. And we're talking about unhealthy eats. They lack humility. For sure, lack humility.

And I just, yeah, I have a problem with that in Candace. But, you know, I like to hear her opinion. on things. Has she widened her demo? She used to be like with Daily Wire only really was like kind of like a right wing figure. But then she started covering like Blake lively and other people. Like has she broadened her base similar to what's her name? Hold on a house and habit. House and habit kind of. She kind of appeals. I think Candace buried her in the crowd. I like that is one thing like you do not cross Candace Owens. Like I'm sorry. Whatever I feel about her like you just don't cross her She's like kind of like crossing Taylor Swift or Candace Owens A hundred percent so wait can you imagine those two at it I really can't because Taylor is smart enough to like keep up with her Yeah, sorry go ahead

So has she like broadened? Yes so I started listening to Candace when she was covering the Blake lively case I was never really into her politics and so now like you know she'll she'll talk about politics and I like it because it keeps me up to date with kind of like honestly I usually this listener and I have to Google everything that she's talking about politically but I'm like yeah it keeps me up to date with what's going on she's Catholic right yeah she's converted to Catholicism and then so yeah she's just so like aggressive it's a little off-putting it makes for good internet but she'd be probably pretty hard to hang out with

I actually think it's opposite. I think that she's actually probably a lot cooler in person. That's how all these people are. Like Alex Clark on the podcast was way more... She was like in her mode. She was in her mode. But like off camera, she was like way more soft-spoken, kind of just like read the room, was the same energy of the room. You know, she wasn't as loud as she is on her podcast.

Yeah. Like I was like, oh, I really want to hang out with her. And she probably, and she just seems to be more open-minded. I think you're pretty much consistent on the podcast and off the podcast. Thank you, babe. It's a compliment. It's good. It's a good thing.

Thank you. You are who you are. Well, that's been a great episode today, guys. Do we have anything else to cover? Any ground to cover? Hulk Hogan. I got a five-hour. Yeah, he did.

Rip. You know, 71's young. I know, but I, he probably put his body through a lot of things. I know, but I feel like he was just performing. No, for sure, but I think like, a lot of those, like, do you ever watch Iron Claw? No.

Yeah, you did. I think we saw it together with Zach Efron. Oh, you know, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, with Zach Ehron. The wrestler. About the brothers. Yeah, about the brothers. And like...

What's the brother's name? See it, horrible memory. Well, I forgot their name too. But it's kind of weird name, those brothers. But it's like a wrestling family. And like, I don't know if in that movie or if it was a documentary I watched, but like, they used to pound steroids back in like the OG wrestling days. And I don't know long term what it does to you, but like heart issues are for sure a part of steroid use.

Von Erick. Yeah, the Von Erickson. Yeah. That can't be good for you. And then we lost Ozzy Osbourne. He also did a lot of drugs, so. Just the great. So the point of the episode is just don't do drugs.

Don't do drugs, guys. Okay, we'll see you guys next week. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.