De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - De-Influencing Tornado (Nothing Is Safe)

Episode Date: May 7, 2026

This week, Dani’s mom “Tornado” joins the podcast and absolutely nothing is off limits. From how she got the nickname to her unexpected TV past, the conversation covers parenting, work ethic, relationships, and the differences between generations. Along the way, she calls out everything from Dani’s home habits to how she approaches life, and she does not hold back. They also get into motherhood, building businesses, confidence with age, and what it looks like to step into new seasons of life without overthinking it. It is honest, chaotic, and full of moments that will either hit close to home or make you laugh. We rounded up some great deals from a few of our favorite brands for you: Rent today at cort.com/podcast New customers can use code DANI and get 20% off your first order at perelelhealth.com/dani Cotton is The Fabric of Our Lives and make sure you're checking tags to ensure it's the fabric of your life too. Learn more at TheFabricOfOurLives.com Subscribe to our official YouTube channel, @deinfluencedpodcast, and follow along on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your De-Influenced fix. You can also find us on Instagram and TikTok at @deinfluencedpodcast. Thanks so much for listening and supporting the show! Produced by Dear Media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The following podcast is a dear media production. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast. D-influenced. Guys, I have the one, the only, my mother. My mother. Tornado, Coco, Ramirez Austin. Can you believe that? Welcome to the pod.

I'm glad to be here. You sound a little, you have a little sexy rasp going on. Yeah, you know what? This is something that I just thought I would add. to my tornado mom persona. What do you think? Wait, you know what's so funny? I used to be on radio, didn't you?

I did. Actually, no, what not radio? It was TV, remember? Oh, but it was called. Country Crossroads. So my mom was on TV. Like, no. Okay, let's, let's, it was cable TV before cable was a thing.

Yeah, no, really. I used to go to school and I used to tell everybody, like my mom's famous. She does, she does, you know, commercials in Spanish for really weird lawyers. And she's on a TV show. You know, it's just kind of funny how life takes you. I ended up being on this TV show with no experience whatsoever. I was a co-host for a guy named Bill Mack. You probably don't remember him.

They should call him the Midnight Cowboy. He sounds like a Midnight Cowboy. Bill Matt. Yeah. How did you get that gig? And what was the show about? It was actually a Christian-based show, believe it or not. It was on a cable channel.

And what they would do is they would, highlight country music artists. And then we would have these segments where we would talk about just encouraging things, you know, about life and just, you know, it wasn't a Bible preaching thing, but it was just kind of talking about life and, you know, what it's like. How in the world did you get that gig? You know, I used to work for an agency. Do you remember Kim Dawson? Yeah, they're still around. She's killing it. They, yeah, no, she's great. That's where I got my start. And she said they were looking for a co-host and you want to go try out. And I was like, okay.

And I went and believe it or not, I got it. So you tried out for it? Yeah, you tried out for it. You just had to sit there. And you know what's crazy about it? You had to wing it. It was all like. Yeah, because it's conversational.

Yeah, it was very. And I was not very good at it. But Bill Mack was so good at just bringing up these topics. And I was just, I had a lot of energy. That's why I got the gig. I'm going to Google it and see if it comes up. Oh my gosh, please. I don't know.

I still have the tapes from those, and I have to tell you, I cringe when I listen and watch them. Bill Mack. Okay, let's see. Country Crossroads is the name. Gosh. Yeah. Okay, wait, Bill Mac, Country. I put.

Country Crossroads. Oh, wow. Oh. Is it there? He passed away in 2020. Yeah. He was older than I was. I was a young. He looked like a sweet baby. Oh, he was amazing. It says Bill Mack,

1929 to 2020 was a Grammy-winning country songwriter and legendary radio DJ known as the Midnight Cowboy, primarily broadcasting in Fort Worth. Famous for writing Leanne's Rhyme hit, or Leon Rhymes hit Blue and George Strait's drinking champagne. Yep, yep. I will tell you. It's kind of a big deal. And we used to interview country music artists and stuff. And it was pretty cool. You know, back in the day when I wasn't even a big country music fan until I started doing that. So, okay, so you started doing that, but you were, I feel like this is like another part of your life. Like, do I know nothing about? I have so many parts of my life you don't know about. Well, I did find out that you were married previously when I was 21 years old, mind you, which we'll get into that because that was crazy. That was a whole lifetime away.

Okay, but before we get into all of the stories, let's back up a little bit. Okay. So your name is Anna Marie Austin, but you were actually Ramirez. Well, yes. Your maiden name is Ramirez, which is so funny that I married a Ramirez. But we're not related. It was actually a little scary when you told me that you first met Jordan. And I'll never forget you said, you know, Mom, I bet this guy and he is so cool. Like, I don't know.

I just think he's amazing. And I said, well, Danny, that's amazing. She goes, the only thing is I don't really like his last name. I go, what is it? And you go, Ramirez. And I went, that's my main name. Well, I knew, obviously, your main name was Ramirez. That's why I replied to his message because I thought maybe he was like a cousin or something. Well, exactly. That's what I thought. Because I don't have any like, like white cousins. Like, you know, on your side of the family. And so I thought, white cousins.

You know what I mean. You know what I mean? Like, I look different than that. Yes, I know. And they always call me the white girl. Yeah. when I would go to San Antonio. But anyway, so he was a Ramirez and I was like, a cousin that looks like me. And I literally thought he was like a cousin. Because we have cousins sprouting up everywhere, you know. Yeah. They're all over the place. And so, but luckily, no, it was just another Ramirez out of the hundreds of thousands, millions of Ramirez is out there.

It's like Smith. It's like so, and so funny is Jordan's mom's maiden name is Smith. So like we just have like the most basic last name. We have the most common Hispanic name and the most. most common white name. In Smith. But anyway, so yeah, so that's your name. But the biggest question that we get is why do you go by tornado?

Well, thanks to you. I started calling her tornado. Actually, I think it's because dad used to call me the tornado. Yeah, little tornado. He always used to call me tornado. The tornadoes here. Like, I just come in the room with like, you know. Well, you and I have the same energy, duh.

Yeah. And so you started saying, you started calling me tornado. And you said, hey, you're going to be. tornado mom and I was like wait a minute I'm not destructive yeah and you're like no you just got a lot of energy because she comes in a room and kind of like a tornado it's like everything starts to be cleaned and that's sorry not what a tornado does but a tornado just kind of comes unexpectedly that was more the vibe of the tornado are you saying I showed up unannounced a lot no it wasn't like that it was like I knew you were coming over but you never knew where she was going to go what she was going to get into

and so like she comes over and it's like she will fix it on like wow all of them the air purifiers in your house are so dirty. Let me go clean them completely out. Bring them to the garage. Start watering the garage. And I'm like, literally, like honestly, it's so helpful and it's so great. But it actually ends up being like more of a mess at the end of it. Because it's like now we have to deal with the air purifiers.

I'm telling you, there are so many things when I come over here. I'm like, oh my gosh, I cannot believe they have not done this. And I literally. What are some of the things? Well, first of all, the air purifiers that were turning your walls black. Y'all, our walls are literally black. When I would come over, I literally would have allergies. I would, my voice would change.

Maybe that's why it's like this. Because I'm over here so much. And why you get sick a lot? I also have four children that are at daycare. But no, it honestly could be, I was not, if you listen to the podcast, I was not an advocate for the air purifiers. One, they're loud. Two, they're ugly.

three, Jordan put them in every single room. And they bring blacks. Like it literally colored all our wise black. It's permanent and ruined all of my drapes. Yeah. Because he never changed out the filter. And I didn't know yet to change the filter because I wasn't the one that bought them. Well, this is a thing I've noticed about Jordan.

When Jordan does something, he goes all in. And I'm like going, or is it out or in? He goes. Both all in or all out. And so when I saw those purifiers, not only did he have one or two or three, but he had like four or five, like in every room. No, mom. And they're massive.

No, mom, you don't even know this. I got rid of like four of them. No, you did it. Some of the rooms, he had them double in there. I was like, he literally thought he was sucking demons out of the, out of the room. Like I was like, and I was like, Jordan, because I came home one day and they were boxes in the dining room like to the ceiling. And I was like, Jordan, no.

And he's like, this is going to save our home. So then I did a little bit of research. And I was like, you. you only need like one or two for the whole downstairs. And then maybe one or two, but he bought one for every single room in the house. Here's the problem with that. There's maintenance that goes with it.

You've got to replace the filters. I know you don't. That's why I come over and have to fix everything. Okay, what else? Because I want to see if you will bring up the one that's been bothering me. What else around our house? You come over and you're like, oh my gosh, I can't believe they haven't done that. Oh, man, there's so many things like your patio outside.

Oh, tell us more. crazy. I had to clean all the cushions in the backyard. It's disgusting. Yeah. I mean, there's there's a lot of things. Okay, tell me more. It's okay. It doesn't hurt my feelings. No, I don't want to go through the whole checklist because, yeah. Okay, what about what? Okay. The bushes in our front. Oh, no, okay. The tree in our front? I have to tell you, there is a tree in your front yard. That's touching the ground. That is literally touching the ground. And I'm like, why do they not get out there? Like every time I come over here, I always forget to bring my little clippers. But I swear I'm going to do that.

Let's order one. Well, go ahead. Go for it. I will do it. I don't understand why y'all don't do it. That tree is literally touching the ground. It's so hard because there's like so many other things that I have to do that like I'm like, I'm not thinking about the trees in my friend yard or my landscaping.

I think either one of y'all have that sort of gene in you to like do maintenance. Totally. I don't. Like, I love cleaning and organizing. How is that possible because, like, that's all I do? And you, like, you picked up none of that for me. But I love it. You don't like to garden. You do clean, but I don't know. There's just not. Like, I love to clean and organize and like get, but I've always loved to do that. Yeah. But I used to ask your friends when they would come over. You'd be in your room and I'd hear you. And I'd, and you'd go, you want to help me organize my drawers? And the girls would go, no, not really. It's sure they're Their moms would get mad at me.

Yeah. But no, I like to like keep a home that's like tidy, you know? So I like cleaning and that type of thing. But yeah, like when I have to go and I like building things. But when I have to like go fix like a faucet or something or like a leak, I'm like, well then who does it? Nobody. And then it just like doesn't get done.

I do it when I come over. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's okay. So now we know. I'm a tornado. I have a question for you. What?

I want to hear what it's like to be a mother of four right now. Because you know what? It's so amazing for me to see you as a mom with four kids. And not only that, but like the experience I had with you when you had the baby. Oh my goodness. Like I know that I knew that you had it in you. But like to actually watch it, it was like, wow. It was like I was so I was so impressed and in awe.

Really? Most people online were not impressed. Really? Why? Because I think they thought I was like a wuss or something. Really? Yeah. Oh. Yeah, they thought I was a wish. Yeah, let them try to. Yeah. Let them try to do it and we'll talk. Yeah, it's so funny because like, I consider myself pretty tough. I think you're pretty, I think you're pretty tough. I think, you know, maybe not as tough as I thought I was. You know, like I always. You had two babies unmedicated. That's pretty darn tough, you know. I know, but, like, but the way that I handled it was so much worse.

What's, what's the right way to handle? Having a baby. I don't know. I just, come out of your hoo-ha. You know what I- It's the size of a watermelon. Like, seriously? You know, like, how are you supposed to act?

I think that I've realized that some people, okay, like, for example, when I am cooking, like, I always, you know, I make my kids these egg bacon and cheese burritos every morning. And so many times, like, I'll act. accidentally touch like the pan when it's hot. Some people are like an internal. Yeah. I'm like, ow! I'm always like an external, you know, ow! Like I always talk out loud. Like I process out loud. Like I'm like, you know what? So I think that's also why I, that's how I dealt with my pain. It was. Okay, but I have a question for you because. It was external, not internal. I think we all do

that. I mean, if I get burned, I'm going to probably go or say something I probably shouldn't say. But have you ever notice how guys have no pain tolerance? Like, Mark, I'll take a tortilla that I'm warming up. And he touches it. And he's like, ah. And it's not even that hot. No, that happens all the time. What is it with guys?

They cannot, they can't handle any amount of pain at all. But then they also like punch each other in the face. It's so weird. Yeah, it is kind of weird. You know. And they live to like, they live to like roughhouse. And I'm like, that doesn't sound fun at all. But girls are so much stronger.

I agree. I agree, I agree. As far as pain tolerance goes. So anyway, I just, yeah, it was a, it was a very special moment. It's so funny because I, I think the second time I did it, it was a lot more challenging, which you would think because I'd already done it before. Yeah. Like, I don't know, this one was just a lot more challenging, but it was like, this postpartum has,

has been really good. Both of my postpartum's with unmedicated births have been. really good because I feel like it starts the whole like I'm not going to do what everybody else is just telling me to do. I'm going to like actually take control of motherhood and do what feels good and what feels good. Maybe not feels good. But like what feels right. Yeah. And so then you just do everything more by like gut and instinct than you do because oh everybody else is just doing it. Like I've literally the past two weeks been considering homeschooling my children. Oh my gosh. I think you should do that. Me too. Hands down. I'm so sick of just. Yes. Yes.

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Like, do you ever look at yourself now that you're the mama and you're sort of, you know, guiding them, protecting them. Do you ever find yourself saying or doing things that I did to you? All the time. Or if I didn't like it, I do the opposite. I know. Well, you know what? That's what I did too with my mom. You just do the opposite of what you don't like. But you find yourself doing and saying things that that your mom said to you all the time. I'm trying to think of what is something that your mom said or did that you did to me? That's a good question. Even like a name that they called you like, You know, you always used to call me pumpkin. Oh, yeah.

Or angel face. Yeah, yeah. No, you know what they called me growing up? Flaka. You know what that means? Skinny. Skinny. And you were skinny too.

As a matter of- Grandma used to call me back up. You used to get a lot of hate. I remember. People would message you and go, oh my God, you're anorexic. And I just want to tell them, this is the way she is.

This is the way God made her. She's skinny. I really wasn't. I really wasn't. I have other problems, but that wasn't one of them. Yeah, no. That was not one of them, but you were super, super skinny. So I was called Flaka, but I was, my mom was a

tough cookie. We had five kids. She basically raised us by herself because my dad was always gone. And now having four kids and imagining raising like four or five kids by myself, like I, yeah, I would need to be in a mental institute for like a whole year. No, and that's why my mom is crazy. She literally is cuckoo. She's crazy. Yeah. And, and you know what? But now, I mean, I never, fault her for some of the things she did because, you know what, I just looked back and go, wow, she had a big responsibility and burden on her. And of course, I was the oldest, so I was the mama. And so I was always the one that was helpful and the one that, you know. But what is something that she did with you or said to you that you did to me? Or you made me like a meal or like a name or

something used to say? I think my mom always drove me really hard, like work ethic. And and I think I did that to you. I really think, yeah, no, you don't. I'm teasing. I mean, you've already been to, what, 10 therapists? You should be over it by now. My gosh. That's actually not how therapy works.

Oh, it doesn't. Okay, well, I never have been to therapy because, yeah. It could be helpful a little bit. I know. We could all use a little therapy. But, no, but yeah, she used to drive me really hard and have a lot of expectations of me. And I think I did that with you in Landon.

I think that was fair because I never let you, first of all, I never let you stop anything that you started. Do you remember that? Did your mom do that to you? Oh, yeah. My mom was like, you know what they used to say in Spanish? El flojo, Traváááá dos Besses. You know what that means?

Okay, hold on. I know something works two times, but what does floho mean? Floho means lazy person. The lazy person works twice as hard or works twice as hard, or works twice. So anytime we did something, if we didn't do it right, she would make us do it again. She would say el flojo. Travajos two vases. He has to work twice. Yeah. Because he has to do it again because he didn't do it right the first time. So I think I did that with you guys, you know, like I didn't let you quit anything. And I will tell you, there's a lot of positives that go with

that because I look at your brother. He wanted to quit playing guitar when he was little. And his guitar teacher now granted for those moms out there that are like wanting their kids to play a musical instrument I say expose him to it let him try it but you're going to know whether or not they have an aptitude for it it's not whether they like it because no kid likes to practice no kid is if you play the guitar it hurts your fingers you're not going to want to keep practicing but I remember asking his teacher and he said you know what lane and really gets it and he's quick and he picks things up so I said okay he goes He goes, if I were you, just, you know, keep him going forward. And sure enough, I did. And he came in thanked me. When he was older, you know, I remember, do you remember he would cry? No, you don't remember.

No, I remember. He would be practicing. And he'd have tear stains on his guitar. And he goes, I don't want to play. Because you made and practice 30 minutes every day. I said, I don't want to practice. I don't like the guitar anymore. And I go, I don't care.

I said, you're, I'm paying for your lessons. And you're going to finish out the school year. and you know I'm not you're not going to quit and then fast forward later in life he came out to me he goes mom thank you so much for not letting me quit playing the guitar yeah I think it's a really good lesson I mean I'm dealing with that right now with Stella she hates dance she hates valiant which is so funny because like I feel like every little girl like loves you loved it love it and I wasn't good or anything but it's like Stella I feel like sometimes it's like an old soul like she I feel like deep down she knows she's not going to be a dancer

So she doesn't want to do it. Like she's like, and I'm like, why don't you want to do it? She's like, it's hard. And I just don't like it. And so, but I did tell. I was like, you have to finish it out. And her recital is Saturday. Yeah.

And so I told her like, you can do the recital, you know. But it was so funny because she got like her costumes. Yeah. And I don't remember. I don't know if you remember. But like I remember for that rehearsal or like costume day, like where you got to dance on stage and put on makeup were like the most exciting days of my life. Oh, you love you live for the costume.

The costume. I could not wait like. And they would always tell us, like, you would make me put my costume away so we wouldn't lose it. And I would, like, sneak in my closet and, like, try it on because I was, like, so excited to wear this, like, two, or, you know, show my belly, like, Britney Spears. You were so cute, too. Oh, my gosh, those costumes were everything. I loved ballet, dance, or tap, jazz. I would have done even more. And the funny thing is, I wasn't good at all. Like, you know, I really didn't have a lot of rhythm. You know, compared to, do you remember your friend Wesley? Oh, she was like, she went on to become, like, a professional dancer, by the way, just. saying. Yeah. Well, you know, and I- everybody compared with her. And I want to say something because I remember back in the day, I wanted you so bad to

like be a good dancer. Like get your hips into it and like have like- And I would try to teach you because I'm like, girl, you got some Spanish blood in you. You should have some good back. But I didn't have swag and like Wesley had so much swag. And so we would like do these dance like, you know, routines. You'd be like this, like a little bored and she would be like But that's what I mean is like some kids are just like born like you said,

that aptitude. And like Wesley, if you would have met Wesley when she was seven, you would have been like, that girl's going to be a dancer when she goes up. You can just tell. You can just tell. Yeah. It wasn't in my blood.

And you know what? And that's why I didn't force you to go forward. Yeah. But I made you finish it and it was fun. So that's what I'm dealing with Stella. I don't think I'm going to force her to go through. Well, you know what? But just let her,

you know, and this is kind of, well, she's five. But she doesn't like it. And so I'm letting her finish it. She doesn't like it. She loves tennis. Oh.

She's going to be a national. So I'm being like really not strict, but I'm like, okay, you're doing. So my, my role is with my kids is they have to play like one instrument and do like one thing that's like athletic. I think that's great. So you can pick whatever it is. But right now I chose for her. I did piano because it's just like a good like a good. It is. You know, you learn how to read music. It's good for math. It's good for math. Good for. Good for hand eye coordination. Yeah. So I'm just doing piano now. And then if she gets to be in fourth grade and she's like, I want to play a different instrument. I'm like, sure. But she's been doing piano for like about a year. Do you remember you want to do? You remember you want to do? You want to do. to play the flute and your lips wouldn't allow you to? I know. You had the wrong shaped lips. So apparently, like, I had, like, a tear drop in my lips and the air goes sideways instead of forward. So, like, I actually, like, my dreams were crushed when I went to sixth grade, like,

band orientation. They were like, you can't play flute. Like, it's impossible. The only reason they were crushed is because all your friends were doing it. But you ended up taking percussion drums. Remember? Well, percussion is, like, xylophone, piano. drums, snare.

I could have seen you on the drum line. Well, they mainly put me on the gong, which was not great. You know, like, I'm with all the cool kids, but like I literally only had like three notes per song. So it worked out. Hey, the one thing about Danny, Danny, you were always good at everything.

But not excellent. But you just weren't great. It's true. But that's okay. It's ever running. But you were a great runner. I was great at running. But you were always good at everything.

You always made the top teams, the A team. but you were, you never, you never excelled at that one, you know, that one thing. But look at you now. But I would say I'm kind of like that now to this day. I don't think I'm like great at anything, but I can like, I have, I have my hand in the lot. That's me.

Yeah, you know, and I think that's okay. I love that. Me too. I love that. So, you know what? Okay, you want to know something. But you know what the worst part about us is? What?

Is that if we ever had to do a talent show, we don't have talents. Think about it. Think about it. And I hate that. Because there's been so many times people like, what's your head? And I'm like, I don't have one. So that means you could never be a Miss America or Miss U. Yeah, and I would have been, I think.

The Miss USA, the one that you. Any of them. No, one of them you have to have a talent. The other one you don't. Oh, Miss America. Miss America, yeah. One of them you have to have like a serious talent. Yeah, that's Miss America.

I never made you do beauty pageants either. Thank goodness. Oh, I would have loved it. I know you probably would. There's one thing about me like I love to be on stage. Yeah, I think so. Look at you now. You know what I secretly always wanted to be?

What? A flight attendant. That's what I wanted to be when I grew up. That's sweet. I could see that. You could still do that if you really wanted to. Are you kidding me? No.

I just want to go travel and have fun. I'm going to work on the plane. But you could do it for like one of those like high end like luxury airs. No. I'm over. I'm over it. I get a little scared of the turbulence and stuff. I'm like, I'm a little too like practical.

Okay, wait. Tell me. What did you always want it to do? I forgot. Hold on. What did I say? I just remember you told me you wanted to do YouTube videos when you were in college. Oh,

you know what I always wanted to be. I'm a little embarrassed to say this. Oh, no. I always wanted to be like a Disney actor. A Disney, like one of those like. Like Amanda Binds with her own show or like, you know, like on Disney,

like the, like a childhood Disney star. Who is that girl that, Helena, Selena Gomez, no, Miley Cyrus. Is that Molly Cyrus?

I wanted to be like Miley Cyrus like, like, Everybody thought you looked like Hannah Montana back in the day. And I was like, I think I'm destined to be on Disney. And then I would go to these auditions number. Yeah. And then I never. No, you couldn't sing.

No, it's not singing. It's acting. Oh. I used to, oh my gosh. I remember about the plays that you used to put on with your friends when you came over. The little skits you all used to do together. I really wanted to be an actor. Yeah.

But I never really pursued the style or the art. You could still do it. You know, I just. I just don't think I have an act for it. It's hard to memorize all the lines. You know what? That would be my problem. But you know what I've learned in life now at my age? I've realized, and I think this was part of being the part of that Q50 group, I've realized that like, man, you can still reinvent yourself after the age of 50.

Like these women that I met seriously started new businesses, started new careers. And it's just amazing to see like, hey, life's not over after 50. Love that. I mean, and I look at me like what I'm doing now. Like, you know, Instagram, thanks to you. Yeah. Which, but like all the different things that just kind of have, you know, things have always kind of come my way. I'm launching a new swimwear line with Hermosa. Like, I've never launched a swimwear line. And even a clothing collaboration. I mean, like, where in the world did I, do I have the qualifications for that? Well, I think that's a good thing is like nobody really has to be qualified for anything these days. I mean, look at both of us.

What are we doing? We have microphones in front of us. How'd this happen? You know what? That's pretty cool, though. Yeah. Really, if you just, you know what it is? I think what sets people apart sometimes is like having the idea, but actually implementing it and doing it.

Yeah. I think that was you. I think that you, both my kids, you and Landon, are the type of personality, huh? Doers. Doers. And you guys are implementers. We don't talk about it. You just do it.

You think about it. You're a visionary. Like you think of so many things. Thank you. I've had so many people telling that lately. You are. And then you know what? You do it.

And Lane's the same way. Yeah. We don't like, we don't like to talk about it. We just do it. And everybody's like, what are you doing? And we're like,

we just started doing it. And that was like kind of like the YouTube video thing. You're not afraid. You're not afraid to like step out there and take the chance. You know why I say like, I'm like the worst thing I happen is you end up homeless. And that's not that bad to me. What?

I know. That's just like literally I used to tell myself that all the time. You did? Yes. It really got me through a lot of things. Well, maybe that's because I told you when you were going to pursue YouTube after I put you through four years of college, I told you two things I'll support you, but you can't move back home and I'm not going to supplement. I know. So I always would be like, okay, I'd be like, do I want to go after this career path? I'm like, what's the worst thing that happened? And then I would think about, okay, it would be like, I can't pay my rent and I wouldn't have a home. Do you really think you wouldn't have a home? You, you think you couldn't. can come back to, I mean, I told you that just to put the fear in you. But I'm just saying, like, that's, that to me wasn't that scary. So I was like, I might as well just pursue my dreams. And that's the worst I can happen. It's not going to get that bad. You know, that's what I was thing. That's how I feel. I'm a total optimist. You are too. And that probably annoys a lot of people. Yeah. But I feel like, like, Jordan is very fear-based. And I'm very, like, Dad, that's your dad. Yeah. Everything scares him. Everything's scared. But Jordan-

scares me. I'm like, what's the worst that could happen? That's what I'm saying. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. So you move on and you just move on. And honestly, I think that it's really hard to say this when you're going through it. But like truthfully, if I look at my life in the times that I made the biggest mistakes, it's why I run such a different type ship now or a tight ship now. Like I learned so much about what not to do through my mistakes, like being canceled for like those fake bags or being canceled for this or that. Like, yes, it was the worst thing ever and I like was depressed for a month about it. But now I would, I learned so much from that. Like I feel like I have so much integrity behind every single little decision now with my business. Because I'm like, I will not ever

cut a corner again. Yeah. You know? So it's like, yeah, the stuff that did fail, like that, that makes like the next move so much better and stronger. The most successful people in life have failed more than once. And you know what? If you can't fail, then I don't think you can succeed. Then you can't live. Yeah. Well, no. I mean, I think you almost need to fail in order to succeed. No, it's so true. And that's what kind of sets you apart, you know, from others that like if you fail and you fall apart, then you know what? Yeah. Debbie was not the first business I launched. Let me just say, you know? Yeah, do you remember the beaded, was it beated bracelet or was that me? It was called QED. Oh, the beated braille. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You did key lead you used to, you used to do beaded bracelets and used to make me help you. Honey, I have done so literally everything. Businesses. Okay, I feel like any time you start talking about moving, it sounds exciting at first, and then you actually start thinking about everything that goes into it. And we've been talking about moving lately. And one of the biggest things that keeps coming up is like, okay, wait, what are we doing about furniture? Because it's not just packing boxes.

It's figuring out what fits, what you keep, what you replace, waiting on deliveries. And it adds a whole other layer. to everything. That's why something like court furniture rental actually makes so much sense. Instead of buying everything up front, you can rent furniture that's already curated and designed to work together. You just choose what you want. Pick your delivery date and then they handle everything and delivery set up all of it. And I feel like especially for us, if we do end up moving, the idea of walking into a new space that's already set up and ready would be such a game changer. Because normally you're waiting weeks for furniture, living in a half-finished space,

trying to piece things together as you go. I also think it's nice because it gives you flexibility. If you're in a space for a shorter amount of time or you just want a fresh start without committing to everything long term, it actually works for that. And then when life changes again, they come pick everything up. So you're not dealing with moving it all over again or trying to resell things. It just makes the whole process feel way simpler. Rent today at court.com slash podcast. That's c-O-R-T-com slash podcast. Just to give you a little background, I grew up in a Hispanic family in San Antonio, and we were all, since I was a little girl, what we used to do was we started a bit. My dad was in the military, okay? And so once he retired, because he started very early,

we, my mom got the, my mom was always the, and she was the one that started everything. She was the thinker and she was the one the idea person and dad would make it happen and so dad when he was overseas found these roses that looked smelled and felt real and the petals they were made of paper which you know you know paper comes from wood so there were these wood and they felt like real rose petals so then he came back home he brought some of those and my mom said we need to make those and sell them and anyway so dad somehow found the materials you know did all the research got the materials we came home we deconstructed one of the roses and then we took that that fiber that fat you know the wood pedal things came in squares and then we would cut it out and then we started to wire it around a stem and it was

so funny because i remember that was probably some of the most fun times as a family because there's five kids right and we're all like you know we're all old enough to do this we all sat around And we'd have these competitions to see who could make the prettiest roses, right? So anyway, once we developed that, dad got us into the airports. We opened up these little flower carts. And we started selling these roses. And we used to miss them with a rose oil spray. So not only did they feel and look real, but they smelled real.

And then we got into the airports, these little kiosks. So that's where the whole entrepreneur thing, we used to sell turquoise jewelry in the malls. And so my mom always thought like any type of business that she could see. Oh, we used to sell pottery. When we were kid. Pottery? Did you make the pottery? No, we'd buy it from Mexico.

Remember the rot iron pottery? If you go to San Antonio, you'll see it everywhere. And we used to sell those and we used to go door to door. Wow. As kids. We used to carry door to door. Pottery? And one time my dad made us go out in the, it was cold and it had snowed over.

And my mom was like, no. Louis, it's too cold for the kids. He goes, oh, they'll be fine. So we're walking across the field, me, Yvette and Lewis, and we're Karen's pottery, we're freezing to death, and we're going. And I think people were buying from us because they felt sorry for us. And I'll never forget, Yvette. Oh, my God, she was such a wimp.

She's walking across the ice, and she bit the dust and, like, immediately started bawling. And my dad was like, okay, Yvette, you get in the truck. And then we had to finish out all the way. She was the favorite. Oh, she was the favorite. So, like, did you get to keep the money yourself or was it for the family? It was for the family. Yeah, we always did it for the family.

Wow. Yeah. But anyway, all those businesses I did, you know, and I still do that to this day. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing because I feel like I'm a restless soul. Like, I get bored with things easily. No, I get that. But you know what? You know what drives me?

It's building some. No, it's really not the money. No, it's not the money. I know. I'm just kidding. It's building. something. Yeah, it's like starting something and see it flourish and see it grow. Yeah, no, it's like a- And then once it does and then I actually start making money, then I'm like,

okay, I'm over it. Same. And then I have to start over again. Same. I know. Half the fun is just building it. It's building it. No, I mean, I like so resonate with that. And I think because, so then you did that with your family. So then you kind of introduced me to that hustle culture. Like maybe it's not as as intense as yours was, but maybe it was more intense, actually. Because we would like, you go to- No, you know what you taught me? My parents taught me to work hard. They said, you need to be a hard worker.

And you know what you taught me? You said, mom, it's not about working hard. It's about working smart. Yeah, yeah. So it's a hard work. It's a hard, smart work. It's a, yeah, combo. But I think that I picked up that gene because I remember when we go to Colorado.

And, you know, we went with like a bunch of families, a bunch of kids. And like, all I wanted to do, me and Landon was instead of like playing with all our friends, who would go into the ponds on the golf course and look for all of the golf balls. Yeah. And then bleach them, sell them, scrub them, set up a table and sell them to the golfers. To the same golfers that lost them the day before. Yeah, we were just selling them their balls back. Do you all remember, like, Laina was like, oh, Pro V1.

Those are worth $5 each. Yeah, so we would charge five bucks. And, oh, my God, we killed it. You guys killed it. You would sit out there. No, and it was like, also, I don't know how old I was. I didn't want anything. I didn't even like really know what money was about.

But like I do remember we made bank. And like I remember what's so crazy is. Do you remember Laine used to say, mom, money just doesn't mean that much? And he goes, money just doesn't mean that much to me. And I was like, okay. But I remember when I, that was like this summer that after that I told my dad, I was like, I want to open up a bank account, you know? And for all these little things that I'm doing, like I want to start saving my money.

And I was like, I don't know what I'm saying my money for. But I just started saving money. It was like so fun. And that is why. when I went to college, I was able to buy my first camera. Because these cameras and the lenses, like the lens alone that I bought was like $1,400. It was so outrageous. Like, I was like, like, how can I ever justify that?

And because of that banking account that I started from that one trip, I had enough to buy my equipment for YouTube. You know what? Both of y'all were like that. Landon put down $50,000 down payment on his first house when he was 25. he had saved that money. Remember he won that competition, so he got a little jump start. Yeah, he won $10,000 when he was in.

You did the same thing. You would take your money. You opened up a bank account. I remember I would work in doubt would be like, you don't need to be working so hard. You're a little girl. I'd be like, that's all I want to do. Because I remember I worked at that consignment shop.

Yeah. Anyway, yeah. So I just, we both have that like worker bee gene where it's, it's just like so fun to build things. But I'm the same way as you. I get, I get bored. And I have to move on. I wonder what you're going to do to your kids.

because, you know, one of the things is, like, I never made it easy for you all. I never gave you the money for stuff. I think you both got a little bit of money when you graduated from college. Do you remember when you bought your car? Oh, my gosh, Danny. So, Lainey got his first car, and we had a budget for that car. And I remember you saying, okay, Danny, okay, you're turning 16 and you need, you know, what kind of car do you want? You go, I want a Mercedes. It's because our friend, our friend's dad owned a Mercedes dealership and I was like... No, but wait a minute.

So you wanted a Mercedes and I said, well, honey, here's a deal. I said, this is your budget? And not only is this your budget, but you're going to have to drive this car until you graduate from college. So from 16 till you get out of college. Also, I drove it until like two years ago, just saying. Well, I mean, you kept it longer.

I kept it forever. Do you remember what you did? Because there was no way. I said there's no way this little girl is going to get her Mercedes. and you were very specific. Had to be white with tan interior. It was a Mercedes. It was a smaller class.

I forgot what number. And so I said, there's no way she's going to do it. Oh, and I told you it can't have 100,000 miles on it. It's got to have low mileage. I think it's like 20,000 miles or less. Yeah,

because you're going to keep it through your whole college career. Yeah. High school and college. And you went online and found it in in freaking Florida. Florida. We had to ship it from Florida. And then so this little girl got her car at, in her budget, and luckily we did have a friend who owned a Mercedes dealership.

He inspected it. He certified it for us, for you. And I was like, that's exactly who you are. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And Lane is the same way. I don't like to settle. No, you don't. But who does? I know. Okay. Actually, let me tell you a story about that. What? Speaking of settling and cars. So, like, when I meet Jordan, he first of all, He didn't even own a car. I know. And that was the thing. It's like, so I'm like, you know, I'm excited because this guy asked me on a date.

He pulls up in an Audi. I'm like, all my girlfriends are like, oh, my God, he jokes an Audi. You know, we're freaking out. Come to find out like three months in, he had rented that car for our first date. He had sold his car. He didn't even have a car. He drove those little car to gos all over downtown Austin. That was his business.

So then it was like, later on, I was like, you know, we'd go on a date. He'd be like, can you come pick me up? But yeah, in Austin, you don't really need to have a car. It was like his business. business was he was working for um ride scout yeah ride scout it was kind of like a new birth situation but um anyway but like speaking of that is um like so jordan the difference between jordan and i is like that's so me i'm like okay my budget i'm gonna get every single like little you know and i care so much jordan uh i remember he i had convinced him like you know you

you got to get a car like for this to like work out between us oh i remember so he had a budget as well and i'm like what car are you going to get he's like i don't know He calls his dad and is like, Dad, can you just pick out a car for me? His dad goes, picks out a car. Jordan never test drove it, never saw it, nothing. His dad just picked out and Jordan paid for it. He did not care about it.

And he got that dang Mitsubishi. And it had cloth seats. And it had black cloth seats. And with a wet dog in there all the time. It was smelled horrible. I'm sorry if anybody drives a Mitsubishi, but that car was a tonk of way. Don't you still own that car?

Oh, we do. It's in Colorado. Yeah. You know the worst thing about that car? He's like, you don't have anywhere put your elbows from you're driving. I hate that. I really think you need a minivan, but just saying, I don't know. I probably am entering that era.

Yeah. I'm proud of it. Can I tell you, I got to tell you a pretty cool story. So, you know, Alex, who works for me, she, she. Is this the emoji story? Yes. Okay, I don't know it. You don't know it?

Okay. So we communicate back and forth. And before I did this podcast, was going to do it. She said, hey, you know, here's the outline. So we're going over it. And we start talking. That's so funny because I never look at my outline. Oh my gosh.

That is, you know what? Normally, I wouldn't either. If I didn't have Alex, I wouldn't have done it either because I never look at my calendar. Yeah. And then I get in so much trouble. And then she'll go, Tornado, have you read your text? And I was like, no. And she's like, well, I've already sent that to you.

Because I'll, can you send me that? Anyway, you and I are both the same. Yeah. So anyway, so we're going over the whole, the outline or whatever. And one of the questions was, what is the most used emoji? On your phone? that I use, that I use. And I said, okay, my most use is the one that has the three little hearts around the

smiley face guy. Yeah, you use that all the time. And sometimes everything. And then I always use that other one. You know, the one that goes like this with the big eyes? You use that one all the time. That's usually when I'm confused or surprised or shocked. And I don't know what that emoji means.

See that guy right there? I use him a lot too because I'm always confused about stuff. So anyway, when Alex's response. to me sometimes I'll ask her, hey, did you get a chance to like, do this or whatever? And she'll go, yes. And exclamation point, exclamation point. I'm like, okay, I just asked. You know, like, I feel like she's getting after me like, oh, no. Yes. And then. That's just like, yeah. No. But I always see it as like, you're over emphasizing yes. Like, yes. Of course I did. Oh, see, I would think of like, yeah. And no. And so, and then she does that. And then she does

to me all the time and sometimes I feel like going well Alex I was just trying to ask because and sometimes I'll respond that to her and she's like oh no it's fine you know whatever so Alex told me today and I never knew this about this young generation but you guys don't like using periods apparently because if he said yes it'd be like yes okay I don't use periods anyway but like but then but if you have nothing it's like so mean it's like yes but to use that exclamation mark means to me like you're over emphasizing. No, it's like happy, excited. No, and I didn't know that. It's like, honestly, it's kind. Like, thank you for putting the explanation point. I feel so much better. I think we need to have, I think we need to have an emoji lesson to, like, people my age.

But that's not emoji. That's a punctuation mark. Yeah, but, but even those type of things, because I never knew that. I always thought she was upset with me or like annoyed that I was asking. That is so funny. Always. And Beth did that to me one time, too. And I was like, Beth, you're not like that. No, yeah, no, that's a good thing. when people put an explanation point. You want that. In fact, that's why I use the heart with the thing with the three hearts.

That's why I can't stand the way that dad texts because the way he texts just sounds so angry. Exactly. It's like, and then the way he spaces things out too. Yes, yes. I'm like, either you're so angry or you can't see the keyboard. Like,

you know? No, he can't see. I know. He can't see. That's why it's like you really can't take text personally. That's why we don't like text because I can't understand what. you're really saying. Like, there's no. I don't like, I don't like texting because I voice text now and it never gets what I say right. Wait a minute. Did I hear you right? What? You voice text now? I always

voice text. No, you didn't. You gave me so much. Mom, I don't, I don't voice text in public at a table whenever we're at dinner. Yeah, I don't do that and I will continue to give you grief for that. Well, sometimes I need to respond quickly. No, but I think that's rude. I don't do it at the table. Yes, you do. But I do not believe that you voice text. text now. Mom. You never did. You used to cringe when I did it. Because I don't like whenever you do it in front of people. I think it's rude. And whenever you're like in front of people like in line or whatever, I will always text. But if it, I'm by myself and I'm working, all I do is voice text. Okay. Well, that makes sense. But anyway. Okay. So now I know whenever you do an exclamation mark, you're not

mad at me. It's a positive. It's a positive thing. It's trying to be kind. Okay. I like that. I like that. Okay. Let's see. What else do we want to talk about? Do you want to talk about my cosmetic journey? And you're not very good at transitioning between topics. Let me tell you that. I kind of like to get it, get to the point. Get to the point. Okay.

Well, I mean, I do feel like a lot of people have asked me. How old are you? 66. I don't care. Are people still like sensitive about when you ask them about their age? You know, some people are. Some of my friends are. But for the most part, I've never been sensitive.

Yeah. That's probably because you're pretty. If you were ugly, it might be a little more. offensive. I don't think that has anything to do with it. It's just like you get to a point in your life, like after 50, you just come to the realization it is what it is. And you know what? You really don't care what people think that much anymore. I love that part about getting older. But I feel that way. That's what I'm saying, because you're getting older. Oh, gosh. I know. Jordan was, you get a confidence. This was so funny. Like, so this was two nights ago, I was, um, where was I was in the kitchen.

And Jordan's like, babe, come here, quick, quick. And I'm like, what? Like, I was like, had one of the babies or something. He's like, no, this is an emergency come. I really thought like something was wrong. Maybe he had like a splinter, a piece of glass in his foot. Like it was like that type of urgency. And I ran in there and he was looking in the mirror and he was like for the first time he had found all of his grays, which I've known that he's had them because I can see his hair. You know, and they kind of sparkle. They're just kind of like, you're just like kind of dispersed within there. They don't, they're not really obvious. Like only if you like were with him every day would you see. Yeah. But he has like a good amount sprinkled throughout. He doesn't have like,

I'll marry. Like, mine's like right here with the grays. His are just kind of, which is honestly kind of nice, you know. Oh, I love guys with gray hair. No, I know. And so I was, he was like freaking, he's like, babe, I have a gray hair. I go, hey, gray hair. You have gray hairs everywhere.

What are you talking about? That's from having four babies. He looks at me and he goes, are we going old together? Oh my gosh. You guys have no idea. You're in your 30s. Come on. I was like, babe, yeah, we are.

He like, oh, we're going old together. I was like, welcome. the party, I've felt this way for the past two years. Like, he literally thinks that he's like still 25. Like he'll walk into the room and he's like, all these old farts. And I'm like, no, babe, you're like 35 years old. Like, we're getting up there. Oh, I still think I'm a lot younger than I am. I know. But you know what? 30s are, I'm going to tell you from my experience, the 30s were rough. They're the toughest time in your life because that's when you're having babies and you're raising your kids. And let's face it, life is challenging. It's exciting and fun, but it's challenging.

then you turn 40 and you still look pretty good you know if you take care of yourself or whatever and pretty soon you're getting a little more confident and you're like yeah you know my kids are older they're self-sufficient now there are some off in college and now you start to sort of realize like okay but 40 year kids are not off in college well you were weren't you no I think you were in 50s mom you're young but you're not that young oh my god your 40s I was like in elementary school were you yeah yeah I think you're right Yeah. It's okay. 50s is college. Go ahead. 50s. Okay. Well, 50s even is to me, like my 40s were great. Because you look good. You have a lot of energy. You're still doing great. Your kids are, you know, they're pretty self-sufficient. Yeah. You're not wiping diapers. Yes, exactly. And then 50s, now you're transitioning. Now you have your kids going off to college. All of a sudden, you're like, wait, what's my? Who am I? What's my purpose? What am I going to do? And now you're left with your husband and you're like, did you do your triathlon when you turn 40 or 50? 50. Yes. Yeah. I was in high school, I think still. Yeah. Oh, were you? Okay. Yeah. It just been

graduating. Yeah, I did a try. Yeah, they were in high school. Yeah, that's, that was my challenge. Yeah, so I think a lot of, like, 50s is when kids start moving out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In 60s is grandma era or 70s. Yeah. Yeah. Grandma and this is. So which has been your favorite decade? Oh, right now. Really? I mean, I, I, I will say I liked my first. I will say I liked my 40s a lot. It was, it was a lot of, I had a lot of fun in my 40s. We did a lot with our friends. We still had, you know, still looked decent, look good. Feel good. Energy. Yeah. And then 50s came and oh my God, I gained a lot of weight in my 50s. I don't know what happened. You were a little so, I'm kidding. No, I was. You were not. It's okay though. It's life, you know. I get it. I'm in that

era. Yeah. It's fine. And so anyway, so that 50s was kind of a funky. I'll tell you why, what happens. your kids leave you and all of a sudden you're like what's my purpose and all of a sudden you go into a weird funk yeah you get into like a depressed sort of like oh my gosh like whatever now it's you and your husband you're like okay who is this guy and do i even like him anymore no they're very different probably it's very different because now of a sudden you've dedicated so much time to your babies and your kids and now of a sudden it's not they're not there anymore they don't need you that much oh that would be weird it's very weird just wait till you get there i mean and it's kind of sad in a way I know I get it.

You know, you eat a few. You start drinking a lot of wine. And then you gain about 50 pounds. And then pretty soon you're like, wait, stop. You got to get this back on the road. So I did. And so 60s has been great. Now, other than getting cancer when I turned 60,

yeah, that was not. Hey, but thank God I've overcome that and, you know, made me, gave me a new perspective on life. And now I have grandbabies. And to me, like, that's the most rewarding of all. I'm excited to be an aunt. Because I want to know what it's like to have the good parts of the kid, but not hard parts. Yeah.

Well, like I want to know what it's like for like somebody to be like, Aunt Danny or D.D. Whatever. And I like to show up with all these toys. And I'm like, then they start crying. I'm like, peace. Yeah. That's me. That's grandma.

That's grandma stage. That's how I want to be like. You don't worry that much about your kids anymore. I mean, you do. You still think about them. But it's not like you worry now. Like, you know, you know, worry about them. Being healthy.

having friends growing up what are they going to do how are they going to be all these yeah i want to be a cool aunt yeah you will be i know because i know how to deal with kids so like they're going to love yeah yeah you know and i'm going to have like so many like little are you going to have another one kid yeah no you're done for sure i mean i'm not you know never say number it depends i think if i homeschool my kids and get a farm are you using protection because you're like you are fertile myrtle i am very fertile or maybe it's Jordan this fertile. I don't know. No, you're fertile and he's fertile. Yeah. I don't know. I don't want to talk about this with my mom on a podcast.

Next question. No, but I'm super excited to be an aunt and I'm so, I'm like so pumped to have our cousins kind of be like, you know, have a kid have cousins. I'm excited for that too. I really want you guys to have a really close relationship because, you know, I grew up with a ton of cousins. That's why I want to have, I think that's why I want to have it. I found this, that families or kids that come from big families often just want like two kids. Because they're like, it was so chaotic. Like I never got any attention.

Like, so they just want to have two or three kids. But kids that also didn't come from big families want a ton of kids. Yeah. So it kind of just is like a cycle over and over. Unless you kind of land in the middle. But that's why I want like five kids and like all these kids running on in total chaos. because I didn't really have a chaotic kid, like youth, you know? Like, I was with my friends a lot, but me and Lana, like, we didn't really fight that much.

Y'all didn't fight. You know, if we fought, it was like picking on each other, but it wasn't like a true, like, vitriol towards the other person. Like, I want to know what it's like to just take a shirt from your sister and be like, this is mine. No, you don't. Oh, my gosh. We used to fight so much. Because you just have, like, these built-in best friends, built-in besties. And, like, I had to work hard for my friends, you know?

I kind of just wanted to come with, you know, with the territory. I love that your kids are close together. I wish I would have had you and Landon closer together. I know, but, hey, yeah, I know. But it's all good. But like, but I think that Landon might have his kids close together. Oh, he's already decided and so has a little. Because you know why, Landon and I have a very similar mentality of like, just like,

rip off the bandit and just like do it. Yeah. You know, quit talking about it, just do it. And so I think that's why I had all my, and because I'm a female, I've, I felt more pressure to just get it done sooner. obviously doesn't have to worry about fertility and stuff. So he's had more time to process. He married young, so she's got plenty of time.

No, she's got plenty of time. But like, you know, for me, I was like, if I want to have five kids, I have to get started like now. You know, that's how I felt. And that's why I felt like there's like been a lot of urgency with me. Well, you know, back in the day, they had kids since like 18, 19 years old. You know I'm an Irish triplet. I never even heard that expression before. The triplet thing, the Irish triplet thing.

you're, I've known people that have been Irish twins, but I'm an Irish triplet. Yeah, you have Irish twins. Well, I guess I'm off by a month because mine are 13 months apart and I think it's 12 months apart, but like, I think I qualify. I think I still deserve it. They're close enough. Trust me. We deserve it. They're close enough. So yeah, my mom was a little cuckoo. I don't blame her. Yeah, I don't either. That's why I never, that's why I never complain about her every now and then I'm just like she's cuckoo, but, you know. I think we can all complain about our mom sometimes. Yeah, I mean, it's okay. It's like part of what we do. Yeah, it's like, but we love them, you know, we love them and we respect them. Yeah. And, you know, yeah, it's good. Well,

so tell us more, speaking of you being in your, you said you're 65. Six. I'm going to be 67 this year. Wow. Oh, like in a couple of months. Well, tell us about your cosmetic procedures because, you know, people want to know. And you went to Dr. Mike Chiodo. Kyoto? Kyoto. I always said Chioto. No, it's Kyoto. I know.

It's just like, they're like some of my best friends. But, you know, they're like so much my best friends that I just avoid saying their last name. Like, I've avoided this long, but now I like don't know how to actually say it. No, Mike Kyoto. I love him so much. I love Bridget too. Me too. Like, bless her heart.

They're the best. They are the best. He's like. They're like the most generous people. And like you are, they're so genuine and they want everybody in their circles to succeed. and just so giving. We just love them so much. And not to mention he's really hot.

Mom. I'm old. I'm not dead. I know. I know. You know I've gotten to the point, sorry, side note that I've started calling everybody honey.

That's what I do. I know, but mom, I'm like half your age. And I'm like, I'll see somebody and they're like older than me. I'm like, I'm sorry, honey.

But like I just calms out. I know. Anyway, so yeah, you went to. Okay. So you want to hear about my. cosmetic journey, right? Yeah, why are you holding your phone? You have like a script? No, I'm just

answering like messages while we're talking. No, I'm just kidding. No, I think she probably is. No. Are you bored? No, I'm not bored. It's okay if you are you going to come. Okay. So, have I had stuff done? Absolutely. Put this down. It's making me anxious. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah, I've had stuff done. I mean, starting with Botox. Okay. And I've had, I don't, I'm not a big filler kind of girl. Yeah. One time I did it, try to, to do it on my lips. Oh, it hurts so bad. Remember when your friend came over and did at our house and almost passed out? Yeah, that was not fun. She did it to me. I'm not big on the, the only way I would ever have my lips done if I could have the Kardashians doctor do it for me. Same. I know. I got mine all

dissolved. Those girls. And I look at videos of like when I used to have lip filler and I'm like, oh, that did not look good. Okay, can I tell you something about this whole cosmetic thing? Sure, please. Growing up like for the longest time, like I was, I'm a, low maintenance girl. I color my own hair at home. You know, I rarely, like, I was not big in. It's true. She didn't have, like, any makeup growing up. I was like a low, low, low. Your dad has no idea how good he had it. No, it's true. My girls would go and get their hair and their nails. I did my own nails. No, I'm high maintenance. Like, I, I am that girl. It's okay. But I would, I was not for the longest. And I still don't think I am. No, you're not.

But I've gotten to the point now we're like, what if I, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was, I, I, I was, I, I, I was. when I look good, I feel good. Yeah, so whatever. So, but it's not that important. Like, I don't want people to think like, oh, you have to do all this stuff in order. No, let's be real. She had doctors or reject her and like, say, do you want to collaborate? And she's like, sure, it's free.

So that's a lot of times, like, why. But like, I have never really heard you complain about anything. Yeah. You know, I think the one thing I remember that you did that you complained about is you said that, like in your 40s, that saggy eye lit stuff. And it made you not be able to see. Yes. So you got that done when you were 40.

And that's the only thing I can really think of. And that was hereditary, by the way. That happens to you. Like sometimes my mom had that. So yeah, I had my eyelids done early. And that was the first thing I ever had done. And that was it. I didn't even do Botox back in the day until.

So, but recently I've had my neck done. Dr. Mike did my neck because that was one thing where you show age, you know, is your neck. And then I've had Botox. I've had, you know, I go to skin farm. So I get these treatments. treatment's done like I've dead the vampire facial. You think that stuff works? You know, I mean, I'll be honest with you. I don't think it works. Well, I'm never seen like, I'm sorry, like, I know if this is sponsored like for you. That's fine. I don't know. I don't know. But I'm going to be honest.

Like, I've tried. I don't think any of that works. Well, wait to get to be my age and then you'll be singing a different note. I think, I think a lot of those things do work. One thing I, maybe you have to do them a lot. One thing I won't do is that chemical peel thing. Oh, I want to do that. That's the one thing I feel like does work. No, don't do that. Why? I know people say it's good because it gets down to that lower layer, but I'm like, no, I'm not going to do that to my skin. I don't even do facials. I don't like facials. I love it. You know what I do? I exfoliate with those elamist pads. Yeah. I use those and that's exfoliation enough. So you've gotten your neck done. I got my neck. I had veneers done years ago, which I would love to get my veneers done again.

You know, it's been over 30 years. I'm getting minded next weekend. Jealous. But anyway, that's one thing I would love to do. Dr. Dooley, by the way. Okay. She's so good. Well, hey, Dr. Dooley, if you're listening,

hit me up. Anyway, then what else have I had done? What else? Oh, I just recently had. Oh, the air sculpt. The air sculpt thing. So that was another thing. Like, they reached out and like she got it for free, so she did it.

I know. What's you going to do? I know. So tell me, did you like that? I mean, I'm going to show the results of it. Yes, I have liked it. Because here's the thing. When you're aeroscope is not for people that are trying to lose a ton of fat.

It's problem spots. It's problem spots. Your little belly spot or your love handles, it's a great way for you to get rid of those because no amount of exercise or diet. I mean, I'd have to lose so much weight and I'd be way too skinny in order to get rid of those. Can you, did you like notice a big difference? Like, do your clothes fit different or no? I feel like they do. I feel like they do fit differently on my waist. But you know, it takes up to six months to get the full final results. Because you're like swollen in this stuff. Yeah. So I'm, what are you just eating a bunch for six months? Well, that's what I'm kind of worried about. Where is it

going to go? Yeah. I kind of hope it goes to my booty. I'd like that. Not for you, but I want that for me. I know. And so what else have I had done? I think. That's it. You had your eyelids in your 40s, your neck. Yeah. And then. And Botox.

And I've done those vampire facials. I did this thing called skin beve right here because this is the area that I really struggle with around your mouth. Uh-huh. You know? And so we still haven't fixed that. I don't know. I'm waiting for somebody to reach out to me. You're like, I know just the thing.

I just know that thing. Okay. Yeah. So other than that. And I, you know, color my hair and... You color your own hair. And I self-tanned. I do not like getting a spray tan.

Really? Yes. Well, you're like, Mom, you're like literally Hispanic. You don't need... No, but I mean, that loving tan stuff, man, that stuff is great. I know, but you're so... I love it. You got the olive skin.

What else do we want to do? So people, I want to actually, I'm going to do some quick hitter fun questions for you. So the way this is going to work is you got to put your phone down. Okay. I'm listening. Are you really texting people? No. No.

Okay. So quick and a fun question. So I'm going to ask you something and you have to answer as fast as you can. Oh, gosh. Okay. What's a random thing you're weirdly picky about? Oh, my gosh. I can tell you this right now.

When I fly. I do not like layovers. I have to have an aisle seat. Yes. And I fly American. Why don't you fly Southwest? used to be like such a big Southwest girl what happened to you what happened to them oh oh wait tell me more uh no no it sounds like you have something that's like really personal

southwest is great i own stock in Southwest you guys no but tell it seriously what do you not like why do you know i don't know i feel like they changed their whole vibe they used to be this fun friendly love in the air and i feel like they become very corporate Really? Yes. I don't feel that family sort of friendly vibe anymore. Is it because they got more expensive? Well, that has a lot to do.

Yeah, okay, that makes more sense. Yeah. Because I still feel that fun family vibe. You do? Yeah. Okay. Like, okay, so last week we flew. Well, maybe I haven't flown them enough recently.

So last week we flew Southwest and, you know how like sometimes they ask people to like check their bags before. Oh, yeah. Because they don't have enough like overhead bin. space. And I almost pulled up my phone and recorded, but this flight attendant who was working that area came out. And he literally was singing and like dancing and like making it so fun. And everybody was just like dying laughing. And I was like, this is why I love Southwest. And I love that they have assigned seats now. Yeah. You know what? I do like the assigned seating thing.

It's so much less trust. Do you remember that you don't remember this? Well, maybe you do. But your dad used to travel every week and every weekend, right? And he would fly only Southwest. Because it was Texas. And that was back in the day when we used to be able to go to the gate to greet them. I don't remember that. I know. And Landon was a little. Yeah, he was little.

You probably weren't even born yet. And he would go up to the window and he goes, there's my daddy's airplane. It was Southwest. It was Southwest. Yeah, I mean. And they used to serve peanuts. They gave up peanuts. I hate peanuts.

I love peanuts. I'm so happy we're over with peanut. They actually have really good seasoned pretzels. I know. You know what? I just flew Southwest. And they were pretty good. Yeah. No, it's really good. I really enjoy Southwest. I'll give them a chance. I think the reason why you don't

fly Southwest is you want your American points and American flies more places. That's true. I'm, and I'm traveling a lot more internationally now. Yeah. And see, I'm more. I like my status, you know, I get that. Because I, you know, I used to have like the companion pass on Southwest. I was like literally so far up there. But, but I, I have traveled a little bit more American just because they do go more places. I get it. Okay. Okay. Sorry, that was only one question. I know. Okay. Okay. Okay. What's something you're always losing? Oh my gosh. Well, my glasses.

Yeah, I have like 10 pairs of pairs of years over here. But you know what? I just did. Can you tell? I've been reading my phone without my readers. Did you notice? Contacts. I'm wearing contacts.

They're multi-focal contacts. Oh, God. I might eat so much. They're amazing. You can see far away, middle, and close up. Wow. What brand is it? They're contact one.

Contact one. Shout out. I think it's Alcon. Alcon is the brand. Yeah, I've already reached out to them because, yeah, I want them to work with me too. You know, it's so sad. I, you know how, you know, I don't typically reach out to brands. Like, I don't, like, well, you don't have to. Well, sorry. What I mean is I don't pitch myself for brands. Yeah. Yeah. So that's exactly what I meant. Exactly. I go, sorry. I was trying to say it in a humble way, but then I said it again. Sorry, what I really mean is. Yeah. No. So, but. because like you said, I like to keep things interesting. And I was like, so I went to Jenny and I was like, here's some brands I like really want to work with. And I've always wanted a pizza oven.

Okay. But like I don't want to buy a pizza oven. And like I'm a little overwhelmed. And I would love to have a brand because I would love to make content about that because I feel like that'd be fun to talk about a pizza oven. Yeah. So I have been like really trying to find like the best of the best pizza oven brand. Okay. So I had like two that I like narrowed it down to and I was like so excited and they were both replying to me.

So then it got narrowed down to the one and it was like the best brand out there. I won't say what it is. And I'm like, they're like you can customize the piece of it. Like I'm like going back and forth and I'm like asking chat GPT. And like we go through like these so like so many rounds of negotiations. And then all of a sudden has this ever happened to you? They're like, sorry Danny. We just talked to our supervisor and we're no longer interested.

And I was like. Yeah. I don't know what happened. Yeah. And it's like so hard to not take it personally. So then I asked why. Because I was like what? Yeah.

What was it? Was it something I said? Was it my naked maternity photos that I posted? Am I too controversial now? Like, what is it? They actually just sent this back right before I walked in the room. They said, and I want to see if you think that you agree with this reasoning. Okay.

Because I did have a brand one time tell me they're like, we were moving forward and all of a sudden they said, okay. Yeah, and it's like, we've been talking for days. And like I had sent selections. I was like going to hire like a designer to help me like figure out we're going to put it. Like I was like gung ho. You know, this is happening. I already told Jordan, bam, I'm getting you a pizza oven, you know? Yeah.

And that's what you did wrong. I never talk about something until it happens. No, I know, but this was like so in the bag, you know? Yeah. And to be honest, like what the pizza was oven was worth, like wasn't like. Yeah, it was. Yeah. It's not like crazy.

Like I can just buy the pizza oven. But sometimes it's fun to help a brand too to grow. Well, I was like. And it's not even big brands. But it's also like this. I don't know anything about pizza ovens. And I love that I'd be able to work with them and they could educate me about all the different things.

And then I could be like, guys, I worked with this. I looked at all this research and I work with them and I'm like a pro at this. So anyway, they said, my supervisor took a look at Danny's accounts and found that she has a completely different audience from ours. Our audience consists of 75% men, 45 to 65 years old. Yeah, that makes total sense. And then they said, we're also used to doing seven to 10 collab reels and posts with our chefs and customers. Oh, that's. I don't know, though.

I feel like, don't you want to be introduced to a new demo? Well, if you think about, you know, that might be a little old school because you know what, who's the one that usually brings those, you know, those I, the wife. And let me ask, let me tell you this. The wife says I want that, you know what I wanted Mark to get was one of those egg smokers. The green eggs. Yes. Can I tell you something? Yeah. So that is so true because I wanted this pizza oven. And I just felt like I'm like, I'm so overwhelmed because, you know, you also have to like worry about like the ventilation. Where does the smoke go? Like, yeah. So I sent all the stuff to Jordan. I was like, hey, can. Can you just like confirm that our backyard a lot? Like that's why the men are doing it, but they're doing it for their families and their wives. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know about this guy.

Yeah. I don't know too many men that it would be like, oh, guess what? I want a pizza oven. Would you want a pizza oven? No, I think men would want a pizza oven, but it's the wives that are pushing it along because these guys have families. Absolutely. Women drive everything in the home.

Everything. everything. It's so true. They do. Well, I don't know, Clint. I think that you're really missing out. Just saying. Yeah. So, you know what? It's okay. It's okay. I'm over it. It's only going to drive me for the next five years of my business. I'm just using. Okay. Are you more of a planner or figure it out as we go? Figure it out as we go. What's something small that instantly puts you in a good mood? Oh, seeing my babies on FaceTime if I'm not with them. Yeah. Yeah. What's the most overrated food? Dude. Overrated food. Caviar? You know, I'm not a big caviar lover.

I've never tried it. I think that is a little overrated. Like, like. Fish eggs, right? Yeah. It's like when you say, maybe I haven't eaten the right type of caviar, but I feel like even if I did.

You know what? That's such a lie I did. Try it one time, and it tastes like salt balls. Yeah, I does. It tastes like salt water ball salts. You know what? Overrated? Oh my gosh.

This is overrated. Oasters. I believe that. And I've never had one bit. Okay, first of all, when you eat oysters, I've never known anybody to eat an oyster just on its own. They always got to put the red sauce on a cracker. So you're really just eating red sauce with crackers.

Yeah. And the texture's wrong. It's wrong. You know, the presentation's pretty. But I personally am not an oyster. It's overrated. I agree. Yeah.

And they say it's a aphrodisiac. I think that really works. Is that what makes you want me? Yeah. Okay. I didn't know. I've tried it. Oh, Lord.

Next question. Favorite TV show you've watched recently? I watch a documentary. Okay. It was, I watch a lot of documentaries. You know what I'm into? Crime. What female isn't? I know, what is it about females that love crime documentaries?

Because we're so much smarter than men, like we could figure it out. Like, we know. Like, you watch it and it's like, it's like, you guys really didn't know that this I was going to murder his family or wife? You didn't know that? Just look at him. I think it's the. curiosity in us. Like we have to know what happened and how it happened and why it happened. Like it's the like guys don't care. Like how many guys, except for your dad. Oh my God.

Your dad is like a woman. He asks so many questions and has to know so many details. I think that's a lot of men actually behind closed doors. Yeah. Like you just sit there and like gossip with your husband is the best. So Jordan's that way. Jordan asks a lot of questions. No, I just talk a lot. Like when you go out with your girl, when you go out, with your girlfriends. Does he come home and go, so how was it? What did you talk about? Oh, yeah. He does? Oh, Mark does that to me too. Like, what's up? Like, what's new with the crew? Like, you know. But you know what? I'm not a I don't like to talk. Yeah, I'm like, I don't really care what your friends are doing.

Like, you can keep it to yourself. I mean, I care about your friends, but like I don't need to know what the whole conversation was about. Right, right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right. What's one thing you could eat every single day? Um, popcorn. Yeah, you kind of do. Something everyone loves that you just don't get. Something that everybody loves that I don't get. I have a few of these, but.

Let me think about this because, um, that everybody loves? There's so many things. Like what? Give me an example of yours. I know. I'm trying to think it'll help me think. Okay. I think vampire facials, like I don't, I don't get it.

I just feel like they like mess up your face and then like it heals and everybody's like, well, I'm so lowy. I'm like, well, it just healed so it looks better than it did yesterday. No, I'm talking about things that people love that they do all the time. Like, what do they do? I know. That's what I'm talking about, too. I can't think of it right now. Let me get back to you.

No, wait, let me think. Okay, hold on. What I don't get is why girls do those pointy fingernails. I do not. Oh, my gosh. I do not like that. That is so overrated to me. Like, I just think, why?

Oh, I don't like your nails. Mine is square. I don't like chrome. I think it's been overdone. Do you hate the shape of them, though? I like my nails. You know what I found out when I went to have my nails done at Rose Couture? I was with you.

Oh, yeah. And you know, she says, she goes, what shape would you like? And I go, well, I wanted a little bit. Square with round edges. I was, I'm sorry. She told me. She was, I always tried to describe it. Okay, I want a little bit flat, but a little bit, but rounded on the

edges she goes square round. I go, no, yeah, like a little bit. And she goes square round. And she kept saying that and she goes, square round. And I go, oh, so that's all I have to say is square around. Yeah. I didn't know that. So I learned something every day. Now I don't have to explain myself. You don't get like, you don't like my nose? No, no. It is not attractive at all. Oh, see, I love it. And I love when girls have them. I know. Okay. So that's just something I feel. I wonder though, like if we ask like men, you know, like what men would think. Let's ask one. You've never thought about it. Well, can you look at it now?

Which shape do you like better? Be honest. You can be honest. I won't hurt my feelings. Yeah. You know why? Because I can get better back scratches. See, men just look at it as volatility.

Well, my need to be done again. Are you sure you don't want to look again? No, I'm just kidding. But I've always thought they're more feminine. And that's why, like, maybe men would like them because they're like, here's the thing. Can you kind of come across as like a little bit more like dainty, like needy, like, oh, my God. I think men like long fingernails for sure.

Because I used to have long fingernails. But they weren't. What other shape are you going to go? Long. No, the thing is I cut mine short because I use my hands a lot, you know, garden, whatever. But I used to have them long like that, but they weren't pointy. But mom. And guys loved that.

But mom, they were pointy. No, they weren't. Yes, they were. I remember your nails growing up. When I was like five years old, you always had that dark red color and they were just the shape. Really? You don't remember? No.

Mom, you always had, I could find pictures. Maybe it's, I don't know. Okay. Oh, I believe you. Yeah. And I love whenever I can like tap things. It's like so like that's a drummer in you. Um, okay, who in the family would survive longest on a reality show? A reality show? Like for doing what? Physical stuff? I don't know. Just maybe like a reality show. Let's okay. Who would who would survive the longest on a Bravo TV show?

Oh, not me. I would say probably Landon. Really? Yeah. I think Landon would. Because Laynda just doesn't care. Yeah. He just doesn't care. And he would just sit back and he's very methodical.

He's very logical. And, you know, Linden listens more. Maybe your dad too. I think your dad, well, if it was any- God would get kicked off for saying something. Oh, he'd get canceled for sure. For sure. He just, you know, he's just old school, you know.

It's okay. All of our parents. We all have that one person in our family. We're just like, Dad, you can't say that anymore, you know. I know. It's hard. But yeah, okay, so I'm just like, kind of curious, like, why not me? I think you're a little too emotional.

Okay. I'll receive that. Who would be the worst to travel with? Your dad. Oh, my God. He licked so true. He can't. Oh, he cannot go.

He can't figure anything. out. It's like a child. It's like a child. I travel with a five-year-old. Yeah. No, it's true. I remember the time, like, he was like, he still can't order an Uber and that's hard. That's hard. If you had a warning label, what would it say? A warning label. Do not mess with my kids. Ooh, I like that. Okay, let's see if there's any other topics in here. We talked about travel. What are some of my bucket list? You know where I want to go? I want to go to the Galapagos. islands. You know why? I want to see those big turtles and they lay their eggs. And then when they hatch, you see all these little baby turtles and they just skedaddle back into the ocean.

Really? So the Galapagos turtles, what you want to see? Do you know where the Galapagos Islands are? Let me guess. Are they near Honduras? I just read that up. I don't know. They are. It's off the shore. Guys, I literally, I pictured Honduras and then I pictured all those. islands and I thought maybe those are the golfs. They're off the shore of that. It's not in Hondur, but it's like, yeah, off the shore. It's like island. I was right? Yeah. Sometimes. Guys, Ecuador. That's what it is. Sometimes I'm so much smarter than I think I am. Does that ever happen to you? You know what? You were super smart growing up. No, I wasn't.

Do you remember when your brother thought you were a genius because you could name all the shapes, quadrilinearial triangles? That was like because I was like four and. And you went to a Montessori. Thank you very much. All they did was make me polished brass. I hate Montessbury school. I'm sorry. I'm sorry if you're in Montserie school. I had a horrible experience myself. Why? All I did was polished brass. But you loved it.

No, we didn't. I didn't know that there was another option. What do you mean you didn't know? Because I was like, five. I wish you would have told me. I would have talked to your teacher. Mom, I didn't know that that. I was like, why is my mom sending me here to polish brass?

I don't know. I thought it. But the other thing we would do is, okay, so let me tell you, the only reason why I ever memorized what that triangle was, we would do stations and it's all self-examination. play because it's Montessori. But I was always drawn to the polishing brass station. But there was another station. Because you like to clean. That's why. Yeah. So I would just polish brass. But there was

another station where you would take a piece of paper with a shape on it and put it on a sponge. And they would give you a thumbtack. And you would have to thumbtack the whole shape out of the piece of paper. Yeah. So like literally that sounds like fun. No. And you know how many times I poop like? help with that thing. I did not like Montessori school. And I much rather would like, I send my kids to my kids to Spanish school, which I don't really know what they're doing there, but they're speaking Spanish at least. Hey, I love that they're speaking Spanish. That's all good. Um, okay, what's next? Um, okay. Wait, what was we, what were we just talking about? We were talking about where we were traveling to the Galapagos. Hey, where's your bucket list place? Oh, I haven't been to a lot of places.

So I have so many places. Like, but my biggest thing is like, I want to go to Japan. Tokyo, Singapore, I want to go to Singapore. I want to go to Germany. I've never been to Germany. I really want to go to see Anne Frank's house. I think that would be really cool. That's in Amsterdam. I know Amsterdam's like not the like crazy.

I've been there and I've seen it. It's not that great. But I'm like a World War II buff. Yeah, you like that. It's like it's not about it being great. Like I don't think it's going to be great. But like I am so obsessed with World War II. I like to see it all.

Amsterdam is probably not one of my favorite. I know, but like I like to go because of the history. I'm like a, when I travel, I'm more into history than I am anything else. You know, you know one place that I want to go that you keep giving me a poo-poo about? I want to go. I'm not giving you a poo-poo. You just invited me. I said, I don't really want to go. I love China. I've been twice. I love it. I would go back again. There's so many places in China that are incredible. No, I believe you. And you know, the other place I really enjoyed seeing, I think you should go is Dubai. Well, no, I know. Apparently it's not really good to go right now. Well, no, no, right now.

But no, I would love to go to Dubai. That was also on the list until this is like worse. You know, I'm going to Switzerland. I want to go to Switzerland as well. Yeah. Okay, we need to get you out more. Well, I know. Well, you're a little busy right now.

But if any of them are family friendly, let me know. Should we take the kids on a Disney cruise? I want to take them on a Disney cruise. So badly. Like, I love Disney World. I love taking my case to Disney. It was one of those things that I was like, I'll never be a Disney parent.

And then I went and I was like, there's nothing better than seeing your kids' faces at Disney World. And yes, they might not remember it. Well, then it's more for me than it is for them because it's so sweet. It kind of is. It kind of is more for us. But it's so sweet to see. Yeah.

But I've heard the cruise is amazing for the family and stuff. But Disney, now that I'm in my collab era, huh? If I collab. I'll email you. The goodness is I think I have the perfect demo for you. Oh my gosh. It's teasing. Okay.

So let's see. Is there another, you know what? Do you want to know what advice I would give myself? Yes, please. I'm following, hey, I'm following the outline. But it's more like conversational than it is the outline. No, I understand. So if you can figure out a way to transition in the conversation.

Well, the problem is, is like we get into these things and we go off to a rabbit hole. But yeah. But that's the way it's supposed to be. Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay. So speaking of the Disney. She just says this. I stop talking.

Speaking of the Disney thing. Oh, yeah. You know, taking your kids and stuff and thinking about like your kids' experiences. Yeah. Do you know one of the things that I wish that I would have probably done a little differently? See, this is a great transition. Yes. Okay, I'm learning.

I'm learning. Yeah. And is I think I wish I wouldn't have made you guys participate in so many things. Really? Yeah, which is really interesting to me because I think about like, you were so busy growing up. And I wish I would have taught you to do chores. I did do chores. No, you didn't.

No, you didn't. Okay. But I just, I feel like I made you, you know what, you know what got me hooked? This is what happens to young moms. And if you're a young mom out there, you probably are falling into this kind of trap where, because I see you doing it too, Danny. like all your friends, their daughters are doing dance and ballet and, you know, they're doing this or tennis or they're doing soccer or whatever it is. And you feel like, oh, I got to get my kid to do that too. I don't have any other friends that have their kids in any stuff because I'm the oldest.

Oh, really? Yeah, I have to pave the way for all my friends. Okay, well, then maybe I should speak for myself. That's how I felt. Like growing up my, my friends all had their kids doing this and that and this and that. And I just kept thinking, okay, I got to get my kids too. They got to do this. They got to do, you know, they got to do soccer. They got to do dance. They got to do all that. And honestly, I feel like you were so busy so much. And granted, a lot of it did make you into who you are today.

I was busy. But I think sometimes kids need to, like, not be busy. They need to find ways to cope with themselves and not be busy, not be bored. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like kids get bored easily today. Don't you? I got pretty bored easily. I know, but it's okay to be bored. That's the thing. I never wanted you to be bored. So it's okay for kids to get bored because that's when you become more self-expressive. Like they find things that they get more creative. They get more. Or they get more lazy. Or they get more, what do you call it, self-reflective? You know how you're always telling me? I think that that's a very idealistic way of looking at boredom. But I think the reality and the truth of the situation is, is if a kid doesn't have something to do, they're going to go play video games.

Or they're going to go watch TV. No, but you don't let them do that. You let them go be bored. Let them go figure out what to do. You know what I used to do when I got bored? I went one time like, I never really had a whole lot of time to get bored because we were always working. That was a different thing, you know, compared to you guys where you were always doing activities. But one time I got bored.

And so I decided I was going to go out in the backyard. And I built a whole village out of mud. And then what did that teach you about life? And then I made little trees. I made little trees. I made little trees. And I just remember it being such a creative outlet. And it was so much fun.

And I was so proud of myself for doing it. So you think that's better than place. Like I think I could have been, if I was smart enough, I could have been an engineer. Yeah. I could have. So you think that that moment is better than being like on a soccer team? I'm not saying to participate in sports. Sports are very important.

And I think it's really important to have that team mentality. Like it's not just about you. Or if it's going to be about you, then make it about you. You know, be good at it, tennis, whatever. Yeah. But I think team sports also teach you to be a team player. Yeah. Which is good.

And have friends. And have friends. You know, it's a social thing. It's more like a social thing, I think. Yeah. I think so too. But it's okay to be creative. Like let your creativity come out.

Like sometimes you don't really get to, you know, express yourself in those ways because you're too busy trying to keep up. up. Did you ever feel, you can be honest about this, did you ever feel like you were sending your kids off to do so many things that you like missed hanging out with them? Yes, that was my other point. I wish I would have had more time to like sit down with y'all and play with you. You know, like I didn't have that time because it was like, okay, you get home from school. Hurry up, get ready. You got to have a snack. You got to hurry up. We got to go to soccer. And then we're going to have to go to, you know, whatever. Did you really want to be playing with us? Or didn't you want to be doing your own thing? Well, I mean, maybe a little both. I mean, I kind of wanted, I think I was lucky that when you

were in school, I got to go play tennis, you know, I got to do those things. But I wish I would have taken that time to really like connect with y'all. And I think that's what a lot of moms miss out on is because they are so, you're so busy. You know, you're so busy. That's what's neat about being a grandma is like we get to actually stop and sit down and enjoy time with them. And it's easier said than done when you're a mom of four or a mom of two. It all sounds so great and idealistic and beautiful. But like I don't think it's a reality. Sometimes I'm like, like I love you, but like I don't want to sit down and play with you anymore.

Like, you know, I really want an hour of myself. It's because you're in the throw of all the mess. I get it. Yeah. You're right. It's idealistic. Yeah. So I mean,

so you have to wait to your grandma. And it's like when you have four or five kids and it's like one of them is bored, it's like, that just happens like natural. especially because I don't let them watch any TV. So or we don't do any screens. But I do think until what we do is like we'll color and we'll Lego and we'll do this. But sometimes it puts a lot more work on me because I feel like I have to provide all these activities for them. Well, that's why you have grandmas and that's why we hang.

But you know what I mean? Like it's just so idealistic to be like, just let your kids go. And I'm like, yeah, I would love for that to happen. And sometimes that does happen like where Stella and Stratton will like be in a good mood and like build a fort together for 30 minutes. But then the other three hours, Mom, I'm bored. Mom, can we watch a show? No.

Mom, can I do this? Mom, can I do that? And I'm just like, can you all just like, leave me alone and just like go do something? Can you make them go outside? Yeah, but they don't want to go outside sometimes. Like you, it just all sounds so beautiful. But then you're in it and it's like it doesn't work as well. But like that's why I do like having activities where they get out of the house.

Like tennis and it's only 30 minutes or like swim lessons or whatever. And they seem to like really enjoy them. for still a hates, you know, dance like we talked about. But, um, I guess it's a fine line. I don't know. Yeah. Sometimes I just feel like we're just always so hard at ourselves looking back at what we could have done differently. It's like, you probably were just doing the best that you could in the moment. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Like, you know, you have no idea how much I used to worry about like, oh my gosh, like, especially you, because, you know, being a girl, girls kind of have it a lot different than boys do. Girls are. Yeah, you kind of have to, you, it's like, if you want to be a,

cheerleading in high school, like you have to start cheerleading when you're five. Oh. And it's like so intense and competitive. Yeah, it is. And sometimes girls aren't very nice to you and, you know, and so whenever, I'm sure, if you're a girl mom, you've been through this where, you know, your daughter comes home and they didn't ask me to play with them or they didn't, you know, let me participate or whatever.

And then you're like, but why? Like, my daughter's so great. That's what I'm thinking. And like, and then it makes you feel horrible. And it makes you feel like, oh, but why didn't. they like her. And then you go. That's Jordan.

And then Jordan would be like, that girl just leave you out on the playground. I'm like, babe, stop. And he's like, no, I saw that girl. She didn't, she didn't let Stella play with her.

I'm like, babe, just let it happen. It's going to be okay. Not everybody's going to be nice to sell all the time. And I'm like, but you're making it a big deal. We're just going to make it a big deal to her.

Just like, let it go. Like, let it go. Like, let it go. And I'd overcompensate and I'd go, you want to go to T. Max or go buy your toy or go get you some ice cream like I would overcompensate like okay oh poor baby like they were mean to you I don't think that's a bad thing though it'd be like let's go get ice

cream no it's not it feel better no I know I'm just saying that's what I used to do for you I think every mom probably does that I think I think so too I'm just curious to see like having one girl what that's going to be like versus the three boys I'm already living in it let me tell you she's like a mini teenager I know she's really sassy but she loves me. She does. She loves me too. It's the best.

She's the best. But you know what? When she's in the mood, she is the sweetest. She's fun. But then when she's had enough of you, she's like, I'm done. It's very obvious. Yeah, very obvious. When she's sweet, she's sweet.

She's not seeing that. Yeah. Well, anyway, this has been a very fun. It's really been fun. So we've kind of overdid it, but, you know. We've talked about a little bit of everything. Yeah, we kind of did. For your first podcast.

I think I would say A minus. A minus. I need to learn how to transition. The transitions are a little scattered. You know what? People listening to this are like, their brains are like, it's like a ping pong ball. That's how my brain. That's how my brain is every day.

Yeah. Well, where can people follow you? Come, I guess you can do it to tornado.com. Yeah, on Instagram. Tornado mom on Instagram. Yeah, go check her out. She posts like a lot of outfits, Amazon. gardening, travel, all the fun stuff.

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