De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - From Skinny Jeans to Vaccines

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

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Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast. De-influenced. And we're back, baby. It's just us too. I'm sorry, we are coming at you a little late. Yeah. A little late in the week. But hey, better late than never, right?

Yeah, we, um, these, I'm, I'm excited for today's episode. It's just a free flown one. Yeah, it's a free flow. I don't like, I don't like structure that much in these things. Yeah, honey, just let it ride. I like just talking about random things, just off the cuff. Yeah, what's just random? Spit it right now.

What's random? I know what's random. My pants? Guys, I can't. Jordan is always just so close when it comes to fashion. He's so close when it comes to his outfit. He's like, yes, yes. And then there's just like a big red X.

No. He got dressed this morning and like a pretty killer outfit, but his pants are so tight. Here, mine have a Jonah's brother. Yeah, they're my black theory pants. They're my favorite. Like a 2009 Jonas brother. You know what I'm saying?

Well, no one told me that skinny jeans are out. Like I feel like I just got into them and now they're gone. But I think that here's the thing. Here's the thing. For everyone. Is that I think that they might be out for someone like you who goes like New York Fashion Week. But like for me-

I don't got a New York fashion. What are you talking about? What I'm saying is like you're pretty up with the trends. What I'm saying is that like I'm pretty downstream. No. So if you're an early adopter, I'm a laggard as they would call. This is why it's so funny because you're, look at the shirt you're wearing. It is so on trend.

It is so trendy. This is not a classic look at all. This is, this is not Ralph Lauren. This is trendy. So you're trying to be trendy, but you're just behind. I'm having a hard time with the departure of skinny jeans, if I'm being honest. Oh my gosh. Jordan, so did all.

So did all of us. But here's the thing. We all had to mourn it about like last year, last fall. And we went through our morning process. And I'm, honestly, I feel for you. It's a really hard transition. And I still, to this day, like- I don't feel great in baggy jeans.

I don't. I know, I know exactly. Especially when you're like postpartum, I was like, really, guys? I'm postpartum and we're transitioning to the baggy jeans? Like, what, for real? They just do us dirty like that, like some of these trends. But like, hon, we just got to suck it up and just keep going forward. Where did this come from?

Was this, did this come from Australia, the UK, South Korea? Those are the main fashion. Milan? Milan. So, I mean, typically it trickles down. from like the fashion weeks, maybe Paris or New York. Which is just so crazy because like you know that these designers at Fashion Week are all about the clickbait.

They're just dressing absolutely ridiculous. No. And then we pick up on it and we let them control us. So actually what? So really I'm actually the trends that are here because as skinny jeans are trying to go out, I'm holding on and I'm going to say no guys, hold the line. Hold the line. Hold the line.

We're all going to wear them. I'm dead. That is funny. Yeah. No, there are, there is a resistance out there. Right. It's a small minority. And there are some out there that are fighting. And I'm sure they would love for you to join them.

Honestly. They're not going to go. They're not going down either. No, I'm not going down. I'll take this one. There's not a lot of hills I'll die on. I'm taking this one to my grave. No, and you know what?

If it's something you believe in, like I think you should. Yeah. The most unfortunate thing about this morning is, you know, you woke up a little bit later than usual. And I didn't have your immediate feedback. And so for the first maybe two hours that I was up, you were alone. I was alone and I was thinking, I want you to know this.

I changed my shoes three times because I was thinking, I was like, she's going to say, no, no, no, no, no. It's not about that. I was like, she's going to say that I missed the mark on my shoes. Like, that was my guess. And then I always know within the first 0.5 seconds of, your reaction if I nailed it. And you looked me up and down and I go, what did I do wrong?

And it was the pants. It was the immediate junk in the trunk that I caught. My eye caught. Well, don't blame me for your perversion. My eyes are up here. Keep your eyes up here. Eyes above the belt. Above the belt. Eyes up here. Oh, that's funny. No, but I appreciate your efforts. And you look great. You know what I'm saying? I'm just trying to help out. Like it's it's because I care. Yeah, absolutely. What else is new? I mean, we really haven't updated them on life lately.

I know because we had the Newton's, right? We had the Newton's. People loved that episode, y'all. Oh, my gosh. So then I did a poll last night and I was like, oh, should we have? So the Nelson's were coming last week to be on the podcast, but like morning of, they had to cancel. So then we rescheduled for two days ago. And then morning of, I had to cancel.

So it's been pushed, but they are getting. rescheduled on our calendar and we cannot wait to have Maddie and David. So they'll be on the podcast soon. You know what I'm going to call them out about? Just to stoke the fire for that episode. You know, have you thought about how they left us at Tao since that? Because I want to say I've probably thought about it maybe once every other day since it happened three weeks ago.

Why? They had plans before. I know. I know. The whole series of events didn't make them the bad guys. But, you know, a simple invite could have satisfied. Gosh. Well, so, okay, here's the story. So we were at Bridget's wedding, you know, and it was kind of like the after party and we were like, oh, like, let's go back to the hotel. But here's the thing. But they had already

had plans. They had plans and they were trying to transition to their plans with their other friends. Right. And we just hopped on the ride. No, and then they go, we're getting Uber. I go, we're going to come with. And we were not, like, I invited myself essentially, but I don't, I'm not really that girl that's like going to get offended if somebody has plans and they have to leave me. Like I don't really care, but Jordan is maybe that guy. Well, no. Let me tell you why it triggered with me. So, okay, they went to dinner with a guy named Tyler Sagan.

Okay. So Tyler is that famous hockey player. Dave, it's Tyler Sagan. Oh, shoot. You obviously don't know who these people are. I mean, listen, I'm not a hockey guy. I'm not a hockey guy. Yeah, I know.

Tyler Sagan. Okay, so he's a really big deal. And David was obviously an athlete. So I think the trigger in me was like, okay. These are the cool kids. And I'm not right in. Like, kind of. I was like, okay, so this is like A list or A team.

And I was on C team. So this feels very triggering to me. Once again, I just want to defend them because Maddie was saying bye to me at the bar. True. And she was like, we got to go. And I said, where are you going? And she goes, oh, I'm going to go change. Because first she wanted to change.

I go, oh, you're going to the hotel. I said, me too, let's just split an Uber. I know. We just hopped in the back like, do-to-do. And they didn't care or anything. But then they really had plans after to go to town. And they were late, so they skipped the changing. Yeah.

So it wasn't their fault at all. They had a reservation and everything. Okay, okay. Fair. But okay, fair, fair. Tell me yes or no, that wasn't a magical car ride we had. I mean, I feel like we had a great time in the car ride. The conversation was flowing.

We were telling stories and we've never told each other before. That's why I'm the gal that's just like, oh, you're going, I'm hopping. I'm taking a ride too. Yeah. I have no shame. Like, because we're, because you're going to like me and we're going to get closer. Yeah, we were headed the same direction. It was very logical for us to share a ride with him.

But here was what got me. Okay, so we have this awesome car ride. Yeah. I tell David and Maddie's stories. I've never told anyone. You're like, you're like, David, you're my best friend. We created a, no, no, David doesn't have friends. Oh, yeah.

He doesn't like friends. We talk about this often. He's a, he's a, he's a family man. He's a family man. He's like, no, I don't. He's like, Friday night? I'm hanging with my kids. Yeah. He's like, I don't have time for friends. And I'm like, dude, I'm like, me too. Great. And so we're very low-maintenance non-friends together. So we get to the location. They're like, oh, we're going to Tal. It was kind of like that moment. And he was like, we'll call you guys in 10 minutes. Oh, he did not say that. He said that. I will bring this up to him on the podcast. He said, we'll call you guys in 10 minutes. He did not hear that. He goes, we'll call you afterwards. We'll see what y'all are doing after. We'll see what. In 10 minutes. He said it was he positioned it as like we had such a great time in the car. We don't want to go hang with Tyler. No, I think they really did have a great time with us in the car. Oh, no, for real.

A hundred percent. Like I really think if we lived closer and had less children, we would be really good friends. Oh, I agree with that. We just have many babies and live further. So it makes it more difficult. Yeah. I'm also like fake outraged about this. It's I know. I'm totally kidding. I know you're messing around. But I am going to bring it up to him and make them feel awkward. on our podcast. That's what you do. Yeah, we did. Oh, we did.

Wait, we did recap Bridget's wedding, didn't we? Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah, yeah. We already went to that. Her pictures came out, by the way. Did you see? We're allowed to post. Oh, no.

So I got a text with the wig. Embargo's over. Embargoes over. I don't, I think that they were, honestly, I don't know the issue or what happened with the photos. It was embargoed. What does that mean? Like, traded?

No, no. Embargo means like when you tell the press, like, hey, we're giving you the story, but it's embargoed until September 2nd. Like you can't post it until September 2nd. She embargoed her wedding. That is so chic. Like, wow.

I wish I had... Vibes. I wish I had to admit people would care enough to embargo with me. I was trying to think of why they did that. And I think it was really smart because it allowed for them to enjoy their honeymoon and not have to deal with, like, social media. 100%. I even enjoyed the...

Like, I was more in the moment because I felt like I didn't have to take photos. In fact, when we were at events, I was scared to take photos because I knew I wasn't allowed to post any. And so I was just like, you know what? I'm not going to. And they had so many content creators. They had a luxury content creator business essentially there that just they travel and do luxury weddings and do like social media for them.

Wow. That's cool. I do need to clear something up. I had mentioned either on this podcast or to every other person at the wedding that the paparazzi were actually taking pictures from across the opposite hotel. It was their photographer. Yeah, it was their photographer. I told you that.

I know. But paparazzi sounds cool. It was more fun. Yeah. But I told a lot of people. Oh, gosh. A lot of people. I was like, yeah, I'd you'll see the PAPS.

Oh my gosh. They're there to capture Tyler. Well, it made. Tyler Segan. Yeah. It made Bridget and Mike look cooler that the paparazzi were photographing their wedding. And maybe it was just something I created my own mind. But I'm sorry for that rumor.

I was wrong. Yeah. That was a lot of fun. I really, really enjoyed that wedding because I think we were more in the moment. Yeah. And then, you know, I went to, speaking of weddings, I went to another bachelor. I went to Janine's bachelor. It was like, you know me, like, I don't get super sentimental about a lot of things, you know?

And Janine is someone that I'll get sentimental for. I know. You know why? It's because she doesn't need it. She has this special place in my heart. Like, she's just one of those people that, like, I maybe wouldn't, I won't see for two years. And which I always see her, so that's not really, but like, I'm like, when I see you, I'm like, you belong here. right here in my soul.

She's pointing to her heart. Yeah, I just, I just love her. Yeah. I, you know, and there's, there's another thing I'm going to say about her. I just respect her a lot. You know, respect is everything for me. Yeah.

I have to respect my people. We position her as, as a, there's like influencers that are Christians, which I would say we are, and then there's Christian influencers. I think she does Christian influencing. The best. The best.

Because you know why? Because she's even better person off screen. Yeah. And I've seen it. Like, I know it. She's actually more committed. and more like, what am I saying? It's not a performance.

Oh my gosh, what is it? Not determined whenever you're like hardworking behind the scenes. Dilligent. Dilligent, whatever. She's all that behind the scenes. And she's not performative and I love that. Funny story. Do you want to tell the story about the first time that Janine invited you to be in a YouTube video with her?

I'm going to tell it. Because it's funny to think about it now. Yes, set the scene. So, you know, I always talk about my YouTube days as, oh, I was a YouTuber. really in reality what happened was I got 100,000 followers within three months and then after that it was a total SHIT show like I did not grow after that I really struggled my videos didn't pop off like I was on the decline after three months it was like really hard for me but I was still out there hustling because I wanted I wanted it to work so bad but like I had a taste of like the goodness for three months and then it was like and just like total like train wreck like low gravy Like exactly like I was like a one hit wonder 100% I was thinking about him today I was like man he only had one song

Yeah baby you're so licious and so that's hard though I mean no but just side note about him He really doesn't want to be famous and he doesn't want to put up songs that make him like give him that much fame I read this article about him but anyway So so I was really struggling and and I would you know collaborate with a lot of YouTubers and have these spikes and like have these cool opportunities because I was one of the first YouTube out there. But it was really hard for me. And then mentally it was like a whole other thing. Like if I ever write a book, like I'll just go like ham because there's this whole phase in my life that really nobody knows about because honestly it brings a little PTSD when I think about those early YouTube days. I was so

unhealthy. Like it was hard. So then I meet Janine who was also kind of a fan of mine at first. Like not a fan, but she was like, oh my gosh, like she followed me. Yeah. And so Janine wanted to do like these collaborations and want to work together, but I was so busy at UT in Austin. She was at UT and Austin as well, but, you know, there's 50,000 students there. So, um, our past never really crossed. One day I get on YouTube and Janine's channel has skyrocketed.

Like she went, I think she immediately got like a million followers and I'm like still like 100,000 and I'm like, dude, what? What does she do? And so anyway, I keep hustling, keep puzzling. Our paths never really crossed. I get to a point where I graduate from college and I'm going to quit YouTube. I'm so discouraged. I'm like, dude, this isn't going anywhere for me.

I'm not growing. I'm not in a healthy place. Like, I'm just going to go get a real job. And then. And so one, it's Christmas Eve. Oh, no, not Christmas Eve. It's Christmas video time. Which is like October.

It's like Black Friday for YouTubers. So Janine asked Danny. like, do you want to be in my Christmas video? But we weren't even like really friends. No, no. She reached out to me and was just like, let's do a collab. I was like, oh my gosh, like this huge YouTuber wants to collab with me. You cleaned your entire apartment.

You had everything set up and I'll just never. I don't really remember the story. Really? Yeah, you can tell you. She came over, okay? And you thought that you were helping her film a video because like the YouTube language back then was really weird. It was like, hey, do you want to, yeah, like, it was like, hey, do you want to film together?

And sometimes that would mean, like, will you help me film my video? It's like taking my pictures, but really, like, just help me film my YouTube video. Right. But it's kind of like, my understanding or memory of it was like, you kind of have to pay your dues. So like, if David Dobrick was like, hey, you want to film together, that might mean you're just like filming his vlog. It might mean you end up in it. It might mean you have like a huge part in it.

You have a little moment where, like, David's like, oh, thanks, Danny for filming. And then you're in it for five seconds. And then everybody's like, who's that? And then it would help you grow. So you have no idea. So Janine comes over and she's like, hey, let's film together. And I think that in your mind, you were like, I don't know what's going to happen, but like whatever happens, like I'm going to be ready.

And Janine, I'll never forget. I was like standing in the background. Janine was like, hey, why don't you come film? And you like had this moment where we were like, really? Like, really? And then she was like, yeah, come on. Like, no big deal. And you were so not nervous, but like, you were nervous.

You were enamored. And then, like, it was like, it's so funny to think about now because you were at your bachelor's party. But, like, in that moment, like, Janine was a game changer for you. You have to understand, like, especially in the early days of this space, it's different now because I feel like you can, like, really earn your dues now because of the algorithm. Like, it's easier to do it on your own. But back then, like, the way that you grew was collaboration.

Like, the way that you grew was getting in somebody else's video, somebody else introduced, you like that one day that Ingrid Nelson shouted me out in her favorite video which was like a 20 minute video Jordan and she mentioned me at like minute 19 okay you would have to watch like the entire video to even see that but do you know like that day I grew so many followers because of her mention that she loved my YouTube channel she was like this big YouTuber back then that mentioned me and so it was like kind of just like a lot of networking it was a lot of just like meeting people collaborating helping them out there would be days when I would go help other YouTubers shoot their videos.

And then, yeah, they never did anything for me in return. But I got to learn from them. I got to see how they edit, what they, what, you know, what equipment they use. Because that was all like, that was gate kept. Like, nobody was sharing that stuff. So the way you learned is like you would go like shadow someone, you know? And their strategy and their, how their, their angles and everything. So, so yeah, I was just like to be around Janine, who was really talented.

I learned a lot. She taught me how to edit. like in a more creative way. She taught me like which camera to get, what type of lighting, everything. And so she was very gracious in that sense. But I think that she kept me around because she never felt like I was using her. Because I was always like always out. My biggest thing and I think you can attest to this is like anytime I do do anything with

another creative or another creator, like I always put our friendship first. Yeah. You've always been really good. You don't really use people. Yeah. And like if it ends up working out where we both. are going to like work towards our goal together great i don't care like i'm always going to put people first before like success because i truly like i've done it the other way and it's not worth it

like those things don't make you happy and like i just value relationships so much more than honestly a lot of things and so i've learned that the hard way um shadow janine getting married so yeah so that video is like still up too it's like really funny i know anyway um i watch it sometimes Do you really? No. But while you were there, I took Stella on our first daddy daughter trip. Oh my gosh. Should we tell that behind the scenes of like you canceling the trip or no?

Yeah, why not? Like people were so annoying about this. Yeah, they were. Honestly, I mean, like it was kind of in my favor because you were the bad guy. I know, which was funny because I actually wasn't the bad guy. I was going to go on a trip Wednesday through Friday. And like the place I was going to go is like really like the tickets were sold out. so I only could have gone Wednesday through Friday.

So I booked the trip. Which I didn't know that. Yeah, which I booked the trip Wednesday through Friday. And then Danny. Wait, sorry. Can I tell us? Because you didn't tell me that you booked it Wednesday through Friday. That's why this is so complicated.

Honestly, like let's not fight here, but like that's debatable. You did not tell me because here's the thing. I was always going on this bachelor. I've known about this bachelor's for months. And Jordan said, while you're at the bachelor's, I'm going to take Stella somewhere. I said, great. I'm going to be at the bachelor trip. This sounds amazing.

So then that week comes around and he wakes up on a Wednesday morning. He's like, I'm leaving. And I'm like, where are you going? He's like, you know, I'm taking Stella on that trip. I said, I thought you were leaving while I was going to be gone. Now if you leave on Wednesday, I'm not going to see Stella for six days straight. Like, that's not cool with me. Like, I never agreed to that.

So then we didn't get to fight or anything, but you were like, okay, I understand your point. I'm going to switch the trip to while you're gone as well. But it obviously was frustrating for you to have to change the trip. at last minute, right? Yeah, very frustrating. And so then I got on my stories and I was like, I'm going to open up about this moment because honestly, I'm overwhelmed. And like, dude, this is why like every time I try to get real,

it always bites me in the butt because I'm like, then this is like just like the worst timing. But that same night, I had also committed to go to a Jonas Brothers concert at like 8 o'clock with two other moms, Shawna and Tiffany. And I had agreed to post for the Jonas Brothers. It was like a, like a collab kind of. And so then that night I go to the Jonas Brothers concert and everybody's like, oh my God, you made Jordan cancel his trip.

But then you go to the Jonas Brothers concert. I'm like. I was like, I know, guys. I was like, DM me. I was like, dude, okay, did I want to go to that Jonas Brothers concert? It was like one of those things where you had committed a couple months back. And I think in the moment, you were like, oh, I'm like really tired. I wish.

And of course I want to sit Joe Bros. They're Diffy supporters. Like I absolutely love them. But I did have a lot going on and I was like not feeling that great. But like I said, I also more so valued my time with Tiffany and Shauna. Yeah. It was just like a segue to, you know, I will say their concert. I want to touch on this really fast.

Super nostalgic, really sweet. Joe seemed so sad. Well, that's like a whole thing. Let's pause. Okay, okay. Okay, let's get it. So basically the long and the short of this is that I was originally not going to go to San Diego. I was going to go to somewhere undisclosed because it's quote unquote controversial on the East Coast.

And then the hurricane hit. So I had to cancel everything. And so I was like, well, I'll just go to the San Diego Zoo with Stella. But then Danny was like, why are you going to San Diego when I'm going to San Diego? Like it's doesn't. Why aren't you going to San Diego? When I'm going, right. Yeah.

Because I would. Are you going? Well, because I was going Wednesday through Friday. She was like, why don't you wait? We can fly together. I'll go to. So it makes so much sense. So it was kind of just like a logistical mess.

But then, so you were right. I mean, you definitely were right. Like it would have been really hard on you to not see. To not see Stella for six days. Yeah, to not see our kids for six days. And I committed to this bachelorette so long ago. And like, it just really didn't make any sense. So anyway, he changed his trip to go when I was gone as well.

So originally. she would have gone to the Jonas brothers like on a time where you know everything was normal yeah I wouldn't have been gone yeah I wouldn't have been gone so anyway it was a little bit of a mess I came out the hero Danny came out of the villain yeah I'm just taking one for the team over here dude like yeah yeah it's brutal but I will say all that aside daddy daughter trips so underrated yeah best time of my life yeah and then stradden got to stay with nana and papa yeah like and listen listen I hear this is where I'm not the hero is people are going to going to be like, Jordan, why didn't you take Stratton?

Like, dude, there's no way to take two babies. Stratton can't walk yet. He's not talking. And like, like, there will be a time where we have daddy, son trips, like 100%. I already have them mapped out. I have them all playing in my head. He can't wait. I can't wait, but like he's just too young.

And so like Stella has a personality. She knows what's going on. Like she really knows when we are there and when we're not there. Like it's. That's what's hard for people that, because all the moms that hate on me for that probably don't have two or two. All the moms are like, oh my gosh. like Stratton didn't get to go. And I look at their profiles and they have kids too, but their kids are like five years apart. Yeah, it's so different. I'm like, dude, like you don't get it like Jordan taking Stella and Stratton to the zoo by himself. They could have done nothing. Nothing. And it would have taken away from. It's like unsafe. It would have taken away from Stella. It would have taken away from Stella's experience like Stratton's experience in a lot of ways because they would have been fighting. Like there will be a time probably in a year where we can take both of our kids. Like I would totally myself and you yourself take both of our kids. And you yourself take both of our kids. And you,

kids on a trip together, but like not now. And that's okay. Like we have a whole lifetime. When they say stuff like that, I want to say, get off my balls. Get off her balls. Like, dude.

I mean, it wasn't like that many people, but like, no, it was, it was. Because it was people that were upset about the Jonas Brothers concert.

Yeah, but people have like a couple things that they come out at you all the time. And it's like that you don't love Stratton. And like that you're, it's really hilarious. Yeah, it's so stupid. Gosh,

I'm freaking love Stratton. Um, other thing just in the intro here this is a free cuff yeah just like just let it flow can i talk about my ai art show yeah okay so i've been on mid journey quite a bit i've been doing deep deep debriefs to our divvy team on how to use artificial intelligence people don't know what mid journey is you got to you got to dumb it down for us a little bit mid journey is basically like all this like a i i art that you're seeing what you do is like you go into this discord server and you type slash imagine and you can literally say anything.

Like I could say... Imagine Danny Austin on a beach. Imagine Danny Austin. Well, that wouldn't work because it doesn't know who Danny Austin. But I would say like imagine a beautiful mid-century modern lakehouse on off the coast of France. France. Surrounded by wizards. Surrounded by wizards.

And I could say shot on a Canon DSLR. And it would literally spit out a photorealistic picture of. of these things, right? So I have been wanting to get our divvy company on like AI art for so long. I'm like, this could change the whole game because something that would have cost $100,000 to shoot and produce in the past can now be done in like 10 seconds, right? And so I'm hosting an AI art show. I put up $500 as the prize. And we are, I'm basically having everyone in Divi create their own AI art. And then we're having an actual art show where people will vote the winner. And the winner gets $500.

Is that your idea? Yeah. I love that. Yeah. That's like a really good idea. I know. I love it. We should do it for like our people too, our followers.

Oh, that's a good idea. Like crowdsource it. Like give like a trip away or something. Yes. Oh see. This is why we're like such a good team. To find the next AI artist for Divi. Genius.

I'm writing the stone. Yeah, or like a fun trip. Getaway. Yeah. Artist. I'm looking for the next Picasso. So good. Okay, anyways.

We're embracing technology. We're embracing the future. No, I gave a whole speech. You missed the speech. But at Divi, I went in and I said, listen, technology is not our foe.

Technology is our friend. Yeah. And, you know, because a lot of, I think the creative team, especially, like creatives are very,

they don't know whether to accept it, to try and push against it. Like the whole Hollywood strike, a large topic. and it is AI. I know, dude, but this is like the Industrial Revolution. I know. You got to hop on, like, because if you fight it, it's going to win.

At the end of the day, technology is going to win. And so we have to adapt and we have to be quick on our toes and change. And I'm really just saying this more so, I mean, because I experience this every day, too. Like with, like, one day you think you got something figured out on Instagram. And then 19-year-olds start dancing on TikTok. And you're like, what the heck? It's like, dude, then Jordan has to take hip-hop classes. Like, you think he wants to be in hip-hop classes?

Like, babe, I don't want to be in hip hop classes, but we are going to miss the freaking boat if I don't join hip hop classes. That's a true story. Like, I'm telling you, it's that extreme that like whenever something new comes out, like even podcasting, we're like, okay, we got to learn how to podcast. We got to buy all this equipment. We got to hire a podcast producer, which we never did, but we're still working on it. We got it. We turned this room that I literally just finished for the Danny Austin headquarters. Now it's a podcast studio.

And now our beloved ping pong table is split in half. We don't even play on it anymore because it's used to block the light for our podcast. It even has a post-a-note on it that says, please don't move. And it's like, well, we want to play ping pong. Not anymore because we got to get our toes and innovate. You change or die, people. Yeah, it's rough out there. Like, I'm not saying it's easy, but it's, it just boggles my mind because there are a few industries and a few jobs.

And my dad's job is included in this. but so my dad has a showroom at the Dallas Market Center. He's had a showroom there for like 30 years. And so basically what that means is it's like a big mall that like boutiques, retailers will come and shop and buy inventory for their stores. So if you all follow like Maddie Nelson, her shop Tallulah, like whenever for her boutique, her online store, she goes to market and she does, she puts orders in.

So you have to buy it in bulk and wholesale. So basically my dad is, has had the same job. for 30 years and this industry has changed a lot like Maddie's whole boutique is online right like it's all online it's all digital my dad has not changed one bet he still faxes all of his orders he puts all of his clothes okay y'all he which things that you could do over a zoom call right he puts all of his clothes he has these bars in the back of his truck he loads all the clothes like a closet and drives all over the country to different boutiques and shows the clothes in person to these women instead of doing a Zoom call and being able to meet with 15 stores in a day,

he'll meet with probably three stores in a week, you know? And it's just he didn't ever really innovate, but it's worked for him. And you know why? All of his clients are also in his same stage. Laggards. They're just. This is a technical term. I'm not making fun of that.

Okay. That kind of was, it's on derogatory. No, no, it's not derogatory. There's like an adoption curve and it's like early adopters, mid, and then laggards are the ones who like adopt laws. Some laggards, it works. And I think for some laggards, they value that. Like the woman that my dad still sells to, they appreciate him coming to him.

And the difference is their boutiques, they probably don't have this exponential growth. But they're content and they're happy. And that's something that can't be measured. It also shows like you don't have to be on the cutting edge of everything. Like it's going to take like generations for AI to be adopted across the board. Like it's like, it's not like if you don't jump on it tomorrow, you're going to be on. Yeah, but I think it also shows that like relationships still do matter.

Yeah. And I've even found that through like my own influencer business. Like just really valuing every single brand dealer, like behind the brand that we're talking to, there is a team of people. Okay. And like really imagining like the five or six people behind the screen and asking them questions outside of work. What are they going through?

Send them flowers when it's, you know, they're going through a hard time. Even if you barely know them. like relationships still matter so much more than just like oh uh this influencer sells the most let's hire her like i want to hire good people too because at the end of the day like that gives me more joy and peace than like a number yeah so you still have to you know value relationships and everything but um and think about people but you know i think that there's like a middle ground of course it's everything in moderation so gosh this episode is fire already um yeah no i'm i'm on board um can we we go back to the Jonas brothers?

Yeah. I don't really know much about the Jonas brothers. I do. Well, can I just give my unbiased opinion? Yeah. Because the headline here is hard. What's the headline? Tell me the headline first.

Well, can I just talk about the experience at the concert first? Yeah, before we get into the heartache. Yeah, so the concert was so beautiful, so nostalgic. Let me tell you. Like, it was a room full of millennials, you know? It was so funny seeing the Jonas brothers with like all these like 30 old. woman because the last time I saw the Jonas brothers, I was in like maybe middle school or high school. Like maybe I was probably like in middle school and it was such a tainy bop. Like I was probably,

I couldn't drive. I remember my mom had to drop me off at the concert. And I remember like I was like back row and I remember being at this concert when I was like 14 and thinking like I love Nick Jonas so much that like it hurts. Like my soul hurts. I don't know. I just liked him back then. No, I don't. I think Joe is the coolest now. But. Yeah, like I just remember like I love them. Like I want him so badly. Like I want to marry him. And then it's just so funny to go back and I'm like, wait, they're kind of my age and all these other women.

Like they're all have, they're all dads, right? Like, and it was just such a, it was so nostalgic. It was sweet. I met a lot of people that follow us, like, which was so cool. Because it was like, we were all like, what are we doing here? And we're like, I don't know. Like we all had kids. And we're like, we need to go home.

That's funny. There was like one point in the middle of the concert where me, Tiffany and Shauna were starving. So we went out and ate a burger and we sat on these picnic tables like outside and like all these moms that, you know, they go to the bathroom, needed water. They saw us and they like came and like surrounded our, like meet up. It was cool. A lot of people were not impressed by the intermission. So.

Which is a weird move. So the intermiss. So here's another thing. I was with Tiffany and Shawna. They both had three month. Okay, so like we had to go. And I was like really kind of starting to get a cough. I was it feeling great.

And so the intermission we thought was the end of the show. So we sprinted out. We sprinted to our car. And then we were leaving. We're like, why is nobody like following us? Like we're the only ones leaving. It was because it was intermission. It went like long.

But I want to say one thing about the show. They were sad. These boys were sad. Not in like they were like there was something in Joe's eyes. that he looked really sad. And I either thought he was tired or sad. Kevin looked the happiest. And then Nick was kind of in the middle.

But I just, there was something in my mama's soul that just was like, I want to give those boys a hug, you know? Well, is that before or after you saw the headline? Because before you saw the headline, you thought that they weren't giving. Yeah. So when I came home, remember the next day, I go, guys, Jonas Brothers retired. I was like, something was up. And then I told the girls, like, I was like,

something is wrong. Something was off. And I didn't know what it was. And then literally like last week, there were like these headlines, Joe Jonas and, uh, what's her name?

His wife. Oh, Sophie, Sophie Turner, are filing for divorce. And, um, that, it all adds up now.

He was going through all of that and like, you know, probably the, the public announcement during that show. Because Dallas is also kind of like their hometown. Like they should have been like, there's like, there's like,

Rangers fans. Yeah, brought the heat. Yeah. So I, yeah, so my, before you go into this, first of all, I didn't really know that people were that obsessed with them as a couple. Sophie, Turner and Joe. Because he's, she's, like, he's a short king. He's shorter than her? Yeah, like significantly. Okay. So that was. And that probably gives all the other short king's hope out there. Okay. So that's, that's an interesting take. I thought it was because she was on Game of Thrones. Well, that too, yeah. Yeah. I don't watch Game of Thrones, so I was like, I just like looking at them as a couple.

You know, like sometimes, and you never know. You can't judge a book by its cover. But there's like, there's like some couples you're like, they're going to make it. And then you're like, eh, I don't really know. Like Kevin and Danielle makes sense. But Nick and Priyanka. Chopra, yeah. And then.

Most famous person. Is she? I mean, she's like the biggest Bollywood star for sure. True. And then Joe and Sophie were just kind of like anomalies. to me, but don't you love an anomaly? Like, don't you love whenever it's like, oh, we don't see them together, but it's working. Yeah, maybe that's why people liked it because it was so unconventional.

But, like, I looked at it and I was like, I don't really see this last thing. I also don't know much about her, but isn't she, like, kind of crass? I don't know. I don't really know. I don't watch a show. I don't really know anything about her. But I do know that the Jonas brothers come from, like, a pretty solid family. And they're probably more, like, family men.

Like, they're probably, like, more toned down. Oh, so you think it's her fault? No. I don't. I just, I just, I, that's. I'm just saying what I know. Because I think that they have like a... What do we know?

Do we know anything? They were raised like super Christian? No, no. Do we know anything about why they broke out? Oh, no. I know nothing. Yeah. I don't, I'm not like a fan enough of Sophie to know.

And I'm not... It just surprised me how upset people were about this. Like, people lost hope over this. And I didn't understand... Did Jimmy Buffett die? Oh, gosh. She just is finding out. Yeah.

When? Wasn't he just out and about? Honestly, babe, I think this was like six days ago. I'm so sorry you're having to find out of this. Wait, wasn't he just out and about though, for real? What do you mean out and about? I thought I just saw, wait, hold on. I'm not laughing over his dad.

I'm laughing over. Wait, I swear to you. What do you mean out and about? I mean, I'm sure he was. Like getting shots by the paparazzi? I don't know. Okay, the only reason. I'm telling you this is I got. Are you thinking of Kenny Chesney? What? Kenny Chesney. I didn't I had no idea you were such a big Jimmy Buffett fan. No, let me tell you something. So I went down this rabbit hole. It was the most interesting, um, Instagram account where it's a poperazzi that has all these relationships with and he shoots in the Hamptons. Okay. And he was shooting like so many celebrities in the Hamptons and he has so, you know, like, um, like Ed Schradin walks up. He's like, hey man. Like, you know, and I just love that stuff. I love to see like, like,

content that the paparazzi shoot, I think it's just fascinating. They shot Bill Clinton at a bookstore with Emma Roberts. Got it. See, that was so random, right? Yeah. It's the coolest video. Emma Roberts is ex-ageing. She, like, just did yoga, and then Bill Clinton is walking into a bookstore,

and Emma Roberts, like, doesn't see Bill Clinton. And it's this whole video. So, anyway, and I was like, oh, we know Emma Roberts. So I started just, like, scrolling. And I swear to you, he just shot Jimmy Buffett. Oh, man. Well, yeah, so while she's looking that up, yeah, he passed away. I forget what it was.

I forget what the cause was. Man, how old was he? I think 74. That's young, right? No. Oh. So, I'm sorry. Wildhead's really disappointing.

Sad. What's the, what role did Jimmy Buffett play? You're like. A classic, you know. Right. Margarita Bill. Well, it's like, it's Jimmy Buffett, man. Like, everybody knows Jimmy Buffett.

I'm not like a huge fan or anything, but like, I don't like for anybody to go. Isn't Jimmy Buffett the guy who hit on your mom? Yeah. Wait, we have to call my mom right now about that. Was that Jimmy Buffett? Yeah, that was Jimmy Buffett. Yeah, Jimmy Buffett almost got into a fight with. Danny's dad because he was hitting on Danny's mom.

My mom was like, they were at the four seasons. Yeah, put it closer. Put the mic closer. They were hitting on, so they're at the four seasons that's now the Ritz, right? Up in, it's where we used to take the kid. Yeah, Los Kalinas. Los Kalinas. And they were staying there for the weekend.

And they were like playing pool or something. And Jimmy Buffett and his bodyguards. Yeah. approached my mom and mom call your dad hello mom approached my mom and were hit it was hitting my mom asked my mom if she wanted to go like party with them after my dad came up and they got in like a physical altercation and um oh wasn't he with like a football player his bodyguard was a football player yeah maybe yeah my dad will know and um mom's my answer.

And so then, you know, my mom went, or like the security came in from like the hotel because it was like this whole thing. And my mom said, you know who they kicked out? Yeah. My dad and my mom. Not Jimmy Buffett. They let him slide. But then he apologized and invited them to the show.

I think he might have like been drinking or something. And then he apologized and invited them to like. He came up to them at like breakfast the next morning and apologized. Yeah. So he's a nice man. baby. We all have our moments. We all have our moments. I'm just going to call my dad

really fast. Man, I didn't know that. Hey, Daniela. Hey, dad. You're on speakerphone, so don't say anything bad. Okay, just ask him. Really quick. Dad, was it Jimmy Buffett that hit on mom? Hit on mom at the Los Kalinas Hotel?

I'm sorry, I can't hear you. Dad, can you hear me? This is important. This is crucial. Well, dad, can you hear? Let's see. Hold on. Okay, say something again. Dad, was it Jimmy Buffett that hit on mom at the Lost Cleanest Hotel?

Hold on. I don't see if mom can hear you. This is good. Mom. I'm kidding me. Literally. She calls her 700 times a day. The one time.

The one time. Mom. Seriously? Call again. People are like, we don't believe you. No, come on, come on. Dad. Call again.

This is worth it. It's okay. This is long form content. This is what we do. Call again. Call again. Oh. He's probably got his like AirPods hooked up or something.

Wasting away in here, Margarita Ville. What's in? Dad, can you hear me? Oh, gosh. Dad, why can't you hear me? Dad. See, the intercoms on. This is a joke.

Dad, can you hear me now? Say something. Dad, was it Jimmy Buffett that hit on Mom? Yeah, yeah, I already passed away. He's the one that I had that encounter with. Did you punch him? Did I punch you? Yeah.

Not exactly. His bodyguard had a cue stick around my neck. And the other bodyguards were chasing a porch shop underneath the pool table. Port shop. I didn't actually hit him. I would have. I didn't actually hit him. It was because he was hitting on mom.

Was he hitting on mom? He had a big entourage with him. I mean, we were playing shuffleboard at the resort. And he just came with his entourage, just tried to take over. Did he hit on mom? We were playing a shuffboard, and they put, there's a pool table right in front of it. So they got the cue balls out. they're hitting these coupons at our heads.

They're shooting up against the wall. They're probably going 50 miles an hour. So I took one, and I was going to... Buffett just sat down and watched his entourage, you know, Jack with us, and he was air-asking, Mom, and Barry Kayed that are having a party upstairs. And she goes, no, this is we're just going to finish a game. So they hit another cue ball at my head.

So I picked it up and reared back like I was going to throw it at him. And then that's when they got me. Okay, but hold on. It wasn't Jimmy. Headlocked and we put a key stick around that neck. And then luckily, we were the only ones in the bar and the bartender saw what was going on. So they call security just in time.

Just in time. You almost lost your head. You almost had them, though. Oh, yeah. It was unbelievable. So was it Jimmy? So crazy, I ran into him two more times during that weekend. one time in the men's run.

And then, I mean, I was all over him, and then all of a sudden, look up there's, Ed Poneck was in the NFL. He was an all-pro rookie running back. He was your bodyguard. So he comes up, says, you want some one of me? You know, this guy's about 6-2, 2-25, you know. He had two more guys behind him.

And I said, no, I'll catch Mr. Buff a little later on. You would? Everywhere we went, I couldn't shake the clown. So, um, did, Did he hit on mom? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They were hitting on mom and hitting on Barry Kay.

Trying to get up to go upstairs a little party. And I was trying to explain to him that his mom's birthday were to celebrate it. And, you know, he didn't like it, you know? Wow. And security comes and they threw us out. Did he apologize? Did he apologize the next day? Well, two days later he did after I read into him the next day in the gym.

And then the father, one Sunday morning we're having brunch. And I don't know if you remember Scott Murray. He was the sportscaster on Channel 5. So he's sitting next to me, and he's asking about my weekend, and I'm telling him, and he just can't believe it. You know, he's thinking, how can I put this on my show? And then all of a sudden, Buffett walks in with his entourage,

because they're a couple of concerts on Dallas that weekend. And so they walk in, and so he looks over and sees me, and he walks across the restaurant. We were sitting up by the window, and he walked across my street the restaurant, and shook my hand and said, I have a feeling I kind of ruined you a weekend. He goes, I want to apologize.

And I said, I said, Jimmy, I don't know what you're on. But, I mean, you were crazy. And he said, I know it. Aw. At least he apologized. He's a good guy. Hey, where are y'all?

Are you headed home? Okay, safe travels. I love you. Safe travel. We're filming a podcast. All right. Okay. See you soon.

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Kind of strange ones, if I'm being honest. New study shows that dirty air is the biggest threat to health. Huh. I don't know. I don't know about this. You know, it's always something new. It's always something. Didn't they one time say like eggs were bad for you?

And then it was like bacon's bad for you. And then it was like, oh, bacon's good for you. I don't think bacon is good for you. Really? Do you want to know, can I tell you a story about, you know, the American breakfast, this eggs and bacon? Yeah, you love the story. I know what you're going to say.

Did I have already told this story? It's like the marketing genius guy behind it. Yeah, tell us right. Edward Bernays, the father of PR. It turns out that the American breakfast, he was hired by, What was it the pork? The pork conglomerates? No, I think it was the pork conglomerates.

No, no, it was pork. The pork conglomerates were like, guys, we got to sell more bacon. It's horrible for you. It's made from like disgusting pigs rolling over and eating their own poop. What can we do? So Edward Bernays was hired by the pork conglomerates

and they were struggling. They needed to sell more bacon. And so he didn't just teach them to sell bacon directly. He created the idea of the. American breakfast, which is two eggs and bacon. And it ended up just skyrocketing pork sales. Genius. Genius.

So I actually wrote before. Can I just speak on that a little bit? Sure. Because I feel like I have a little bit of wisdom to share. Okay. I was in New York when I was getting my hair and makeup done by Bridgett. I mean, sorry. What was I?

Bridgett to do her? For Bridgett's wedding. Right. And I was meeting with like this, or I had this girl that was doing my makeup and she was kind of getting started with her career. And, you know, it's so competitive in the, honestly, any industry, whether you're an influencer, hairstylist, makeup artist.

And she was asking me, you know, like for advice. And like, I was like, I don't know. But then I kind of, typically what I do whenever people ask me for advice like that, I put myself in their shoes. And I'm like, how, if I was a makeup artist in New York, and I wanted these people to hire me, but they've never heard of me. I'm not in the right circles.

All I have really is social media to get my name out there. This kind of reminds me of the American Breakfast. Yeah. But I told her, I was like, what I would do is, and I've seen this work with like a couple of other industries, I would create like a hairstyle that is, and honestly it might even be a hairstyle that like has already been created. Right.

Like let's just say it's like the, you know how everybody's like, dying over like the Pamela Anderson updo, which you probably don't know. But they are. It's like very trendy right now. I grew up on Pamela Anderson. Oh yeah. Okay. So big Baywatch guy as a five year old. Yeah. So what I would do is I would create a hairstyle and call it like the Danny. And I would do it like on I would encourage like all of my clients to do it and like start a hashtag and start like and it might even be a hairstyle. And like it's already around. Right. But it helps like brand something like a product to your name so that when anyone hires you, like, they get, you get like your name out and like maybe it's not even like that hairstyle as it's doing that hairstyle, but everyone's asking for it.

Can I give you an example? Yes. So Kelly, makeup by Kelly, Ann, she kind of coined this term called Jim Lips and it was so smart of her because like now it's like a super trendy thing. Like I see a bunch of makeup artists doing it. it's basically you outline your lips with like a natural looking

like nude lip liner and then you fill it with a clear gloss and it gives like the most natural like plump look to your lips and it's something you could even wear it to the gym because it looks like you didn't put makeup on and she kind of coined that term now was that the first time that we've ever done that

she didn't reinvent the wheel I've done that before she packaged the wheel into something that was so like unique and special like every morning morning when I wake up, I'm like, okay, do I want like a full lip or like a gym lip? And I think to myself, like she created that and now people attach her to that and now like her name's everywhere and she's blowing up. It's so funny. It's like innovation really isn't like new ideas. It's just repackaging a ball idea. It's marketing. It's all marketing. It's marketing. It's like there's probably

so many engineers who have created like amazing products out there but they don't know how to market it. And then. It's sad. And then a Steve Jobs comes around is like, okay, I'll take this and I'll market it better. And then he's the innovator, you know? And that happens in every industry. I know. Again, don't hate on it. That's just the way the world works. Anyway.

So anyway, this whole dirty air thing. You know what? I'm not buying it. It's the air purifier conglomerates. Oh my gosh. I literally wrote the same thing. No joke. Before we even started this, I said lobbying campaign from Pura.

That is funny. Wait, I don't think Pira is air purifying. I know. But they should. Yeah. Canopy or whoever it is. Well, and like, it's the same thing. It's genius, though.

Like, say. It's the same thing that Kardashians, do they plant all these stories to tell a story about themselves. They're planting stories. Like what? Like, I can't speak on some of the ones I know because it's like, I know. I love that. I know people. I love that.

And I don't want to get in trouble. I absolutely love that. But, you know. I know. what you mean. Yeah, it's all, it's all crazy. I mean, look at us, just a couple cynics, not believing anything the media tells us. Like, the air is not dirty. We're like, there's lobbyists behind this. Everything. Guys, but though it's like actually sometimes true, did you watch the new show, painkiller? No. It's kind of like the show, do-stick. It's about

the opioid crisis epidemic. And y'all, go watch that and tell me that this stuff doesn't happen. It is. No, everyone knows it happens. 100%. By the way. Some people are still like not on board. Yeah. How did people respond? This might get cut.

But how did people respond to you talking about vaccines? Really well. Really? Yeah. I think that people are so like that people woke up. Like people are like wait, why we went from not trusting pharma and that was like a very liberal ideology to then like, oh, let's totally trust everything that they're wanting us to put in our bodies. Guys, it's so like it is so marketing.

But here's the thing. I'm also not like anti-vaccine. No, I'm not anti-medicine or anti-vaccines, but like, like, give me the drugs. Give me the-18 shots for our kids. Like, I'm good. Yeah, no, like, I'm like, give me the flu shot. Like, I'm fine. But I am going to question everything more.

Right. And I'm just going to do like the necessities. And Stella had a, like, a reaction to her 12-month vaccine, which I talked about. And I'm not going to go really any deeper on that. But like, as a mother, you are. Like you only have, like you have tools and resources and like you're going to use what you have to make the best decision for your children and for your kids. And if you have something that like personally impacts you that you advocated for your child for and then doesn't work out, like you get to see something firsthand that some people maybe don't get to see. And so that's why I think that every experience is personal and we're truly all just trying to do our best.

Yep. Like whether you are pro vaccine or anti-vaccine, we are all trying to care for our babies to like don't hate on people for the decision that they make. I also think that there's a lot of natural remedies that are being like definitely lobbied against and covered up. Like I feel like I learned that through divvy like developing natural products that will help with hair growth versus finesteride. I'm like finesteride has all of this like, you know, these downsides. And like you're telling me that like all these natural ingredients when packaged together can't help it. Can I tell you something else?

It doesn't make sense. developing Debbie is, I've learned this like firsthand that these big companies. So let's just say that Divi's hair vitamin is legit. Okay, like I'm just telling y'all, I would bet my life on it. It is the best hair vitamin out there. I have looked at the science. I have looked at Nutriful. I have looked at hers and hymns.

I have looked at Viviscall. Whatever it is, Divi's hair vitamin is the best. It is scientifically the best. It has the most clinicals behind the dosages of the ingredients that we include. It has the purest form of aschagana. It is just the best. What I have learned is when smaller companies like Divi, because Divi is still a smaller company compared to some of these other huge companies,

you know, what happens often, this is insane. Is these bigger companies, let's just say like a Nutriful, which this isn't actually happening. This is all like hypothetical. Conjecture. Conjecture. This is all conjecture. These Bayer companies that see a smaller company that is threatening to the industry, they will come in and buy that company to kill them. Yep. So it is like equivalent to, and I'm not saying this is happening. And I also would honestly like, yeah. A bigger company like Nutrifle would come in and buy Devi and kill it and keep Nutifil alive because they already have been around for so much longer and they're more legitimate in the eyes of like the masses because they're. they've been around for so much longer.

They have all these terms that they can say, like, number one dermatologist recommended. I'm like, if any dermatologist looked at the ingredients compared to divvy, divy would be recommended over Nudefil. Well, dude, we talk to our, we talked, are we doing this? Are we, let's go off. No, but every influencer that pushes Nuterful over Divi, like, truly, like, you don't know what you're talking about,

because if you look at the science, divvy is better. I only get like this because, you know, I get competitive. I know, I get it. But, like, we talk to, we talk to, we talked to a dermatologist that I saw. And I was like, oh, like, why are you selling this vitamin? I'm not going to say who they were selling. But like, why are you selling this vitamin?

They're like, oh, yeah, they just, their reps approached us. They have more money. And I was like, okay, well, like, we don't have all the manpower that these bare companies have. Also, guys, because we haven't taken any money from anyone. Everything that we've done has been self-funded. So we maybe one day could take money from people, like a bank or something. and to grow and to hire a sales force and to hire all these people.

And I'm not opposed to it. I just wanted to take this like one step at a time. But I think what annoys me is whenever like the science isn't speaking for itself. Because you know that's my biggest thing with Divi. Yeah. I just want the science to be out there. I want the science to be out there. So they're not going to buy us and kill us.

But like so short of that, what they will do and have done, not defining who they is, is they will legally come after us and send us all these letters that are basically like threatening. Yeah, hypothetically, they'll send us. They'll send us these letters that are threatening and saying, you're doing this, you're doing that. And what they will do to kill small companies is like they will have these like really high powered law firms. And when you are going to fight something, like it's basically like for a big company, it's a cost of doing business. Like send them a letter, threaten them, scare them, take them to court. but small companies don't have the funds to actually defend themselves.

The funds or the experience or the know-how. Like this is all new for us. And so these other companies that have been around for 10 years, they have this infrastructure. They probably have like in-house teams. But not today. Not today's Satan. Don't pick on us.

We ain't falling for these tricks. It's really, really hard. It's tough to grow whenever all these other big companies want you to fail. I like just imagine in my head in about 48 hours. I'm going to get an email from our lawyers that are like, listen to the podcast. Dot, dot, dot. Let's talk. I'm like, I can't, I can't, sorry.

I'm just, I'm out here, I'm out here telling the truth, okay? This is de-influence. I'm here to de-influence, uh, fake news. I don't know what you call. Excuse me. Yeah, so basically not buying this dirty air is the biggest threat to health. Well, like, honestly, like, not falling for it. But honestly, like, duh.

Like, yeah, duh. Like, duh. Like, it's air. And we don't want dirty air in our lungs. Like, that will kill us. Yeah. As we smoke our vape pens. Not we, but like as a society.

I've never done that, but okay. Did you see how many stories other day someone was like, what are your thoughts on Mary Jane? Yeah. I literally didn't know what that meant. I went and Googled Mary Jane. Do you know where my mind immediately went? Spider-Man. No.

I went to TikTok and type. in Mary Jane because I thought maybe Mary Jane was a hater on TikTok that was making mean content about me. Gosh, you're so paranoid. That's where my brain went. And then I found out that Mary Jane means weed. I didn't even know. Schools are all over the U.S. schools all over the U.S. are beginning to do a trial of a four-day school week.

What are your thoughts? Really process this, though. No, no, no. I kind of like it. I think it has like broader macroeconomic impacts. Oh, okay. I like the way you're thinking. Why? Because if you, okay, so think about like when summer comes.

Okay, parents are originally like happy and excited to have their kids home. But like no joke whatsoever, it will affect like the productivity of the economy because they're like watching their kids. Like it's really hard to juggle like work in kids. Oh, okay. Like there's a side of school like where it is childcare. You know, like it is. It just like it is. Like you take your kids to school.

They're educated. That's part of the system. And it helps a lot of people financially. Yeah. So if you, like I'm thinking in the eyes of a business owner. Okay. Like if you, if I were to say, hey, you only are taking your kids to four days a week of school. Like let's say it's on a Friday that they're staying home.

Fridays are going to become much less productive like across the economy. Like if we had to watch our two babies when we had to work on. Friday, it would be brutal. And if, if, we're acknowledging we have a lot of help, but I'm talking about like America as a whole. Well, then also. It would really hurt people trying. I think it would hurt parents trying to provide for their families.

It's an added day. They'd have to pay for child care. Pay for child care or, you know, you know. Yeah. Or, or lose productivity at work, feel more stress. Like, because they're less productive at work, you know, like is my boss seeing this? Like, so I think it like sounds like a really good idea. but like I don't know if it is.

Yeah, I like the way you're thinking is very, like, realistic because my, you know, like, my initial reaction was like, I love this because it's like, maybe Fridays will become like more known as like a half day of work for like everyone. Yeah.

And maybe we'll get more quality time back with our family because I feel like our weekends now as like a society are so packed as well. You have soccer games, birthday parties, church. Like you kind of don't really even get like a day. of rest anymore. And so it would be cool if like a lot of those like personal events started to happen on

Fridays as well. I also think it would help the economy in a sense of like travel. Like I feel like a lot of people would start to travel more and then you're spending more money on like on those things. So you're helping support other businesses. And then yeah, I just think it would maybe put like the purpose of life back into perspective. Like why are we hustling, you know, five days a week?

I kind of agree with that. Like I think that like as a person, if that macroeconomic thing was not a factor, I think you can be more productive most likely in four days than you can five. Like at work, in your life, etc.

I just think that there's like this counterintuitive thought that people have especially, and I think it's kind of like a young 20 to mid-20s mindset. And I'm speaking from experience. Like whenever I was in my young 20s or mid-20s, and before I had kids, I was like, ah, like I never have enough time, right?

And then you get married and your time is lesser, but you're able to do more with it. And then you have kids and you have way less time than your friends who don't have kids and aren't married. But like somehow I find that you're happier, you're more productive. Yeah. And so I just am never, like we've had to deal with this like at,

you know, Divi or Danny Austin or whatever company we run. I don't think that all the time, more time off. equals more happiness. Like in fact, I think that idle hands sometimes can be the devil's workshop. But it's like an extra half day. It's like not that much. No, I mean, this is like a full day. Sorry, but I was saying maybe Friday's become like a half day of work. Oh, we already do that. Okay. At divvy. That's that's because we're like ahead of the curb, but like most people don't have that. Yeah, we also like like we've tried, we've started like, I don't know if this is rolled out yet, but whatever, they're going to listen to it. Um, flex hours. Like, so if you like, so if you like,

Like building your own rhythms, I think is like really important. So like if someone wants to go to the gym at seven and come in at 10 but leave at six, like that's totally fine, right? Or come in at seven, leave at three. Like we're starting to experiment with that at Divy because I do think that like what is hard is if you work in nine to five and you want to work out and you have errands to run, like it can create like life stress, right? 100%.

And that's also like even as a student. I think that four days of education is better than five because when I think of like, I mean, growing up in public school, I don't know what private schools are like, but I felt there was like so much like just like dumb time that like we did nothing in school. Like you know, like you would watch a movie for like two hours and you're just like, are we here? And it was just like dumb. And I feel like teachers would feel like they had like they're just more efficient in that time and they're probably like more refueled for like Monday through Thursday. Like Monday through Thursday is like grind time like let's learn.

Let's take advantage of this time. Then Friday, Saturday, Sunday is like rest, relax, appreciate life. Yeah. And sometimes I just feel like it kind of just like it lingers. Well, I think there'd be like less anxiety like less depression less all of that. I don't know. It's really hard. It's a really interesting debate.

Debate because like I'm kind of pro. Pro four days. Here's the thing. I'm pro if everyone were to adopt and because I don't. don't think it would be fair for like. I think you would have to match that with like rules in the workplace of four days. That's what I'm saying because that's not fair. And you can't do that.

You can't like if the government tries to tell me how to run my business, like I'm going to be pissed. Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. But maybe for government workers, they get, you know, but here's the thing. Here's the thing is that on the flip side of this, there's a book.

I haven't read it yet because I know it's going to create a lot of debate between us. It's called dumbing us down. And it's basically about like system, systematic education and like how it is like actually just like dumbing us down. It's kind of like creating a you know, um, we used to have the tax test, right? Or the star tests in Texas. Like standardized testing to basically quantify. Maybe the star test. Yeah. To quantify how well educated a kid is. Like it doesn't work. It like it's not showing like they're true. There's no room for nuance and like this kid is actually good at this, you know, versus this. It might be good for like the fundamentals.

but like I don't think mass education like does a really good job at like catering to different skill sets that a kid has. So like for example, Stella. Is that on the education system? I think that's more on the parents. I well. That's not fair to like make every teacher be like, oh, this student is good at creative so I need to like cater. I mean, okay. So precisely my point, I think we should homescore our kids. No. It's on the parents. No, but I think it's on the parents outside of that. Like for example, Stella's, I was up at like 1 a.m. reading this. Stella's school has these after school programs now. They're like 30 minutes long. Yeah. And she can be enrolled in basketball, creative, soccer. And like, what I'm going to read Stella's interest and sign her up for

something, I have to pay for it. It's extra. She stays 30 minutes extra after school. But like, that's up to me as a parent to like encourage that for her to sign up for summer camps. Outside of school. Outside of school. Yeah. I don't think that that's fair for the teachers to like be, like responsible for developing a child entirely like well no that's what i'm saying is like it's not possible for like it's not teachers fault it's not mass education's fault it's just like me questioning whether mass education actually works babe look at us we were in the no i think i no i i that's why i disagree i think i look at like school and where i learned it was what sophomore year of high school started a nonprofit to help homeless people.

And I learned the most about how to apply education by doing something like that through that experience than I would have ever like taking a standardized test or going through the like routine. But it's not for everyone, right? So like... But I think it's so much deeper than just like the fundamentals that you're learning.

Like when I look at and like when I look back at school, I did. I took every AP class. every pre-a-p class that you could. Like, I was not going to be in, like, a normal class if I didn't have to. And that taught me so much about how to manage my time, how to say no to, like, after-school activities to make sure that I had time to study. It taught me how to read efficiently.

It taught me, like, just, like, hard work and discipline and how when I put in hard work and discipline, then I could get into the school that I wanted to, which was University of Texas, and then that opened up so much more opportunity for me. So it's, like, the same thing when you're, you're, because Jordan is also against, like, college. Like, he doesn't think that students need to go to college. And I'm like, it's not about, honestly, like, what you're learning in college. I think it's going to be obsolete.

I think it's going to be so expensive. Unless they change something, it's going to be so expensive that it's not, like, sustainable. But Jordan, then how is Stella ever going to learn how to, like, be off on our own? Oh, by my program. I'm designing. You have time to create a program while we're running divvy? Babe, listen, I haven't shared with you the program, but I have, a whole program that I'm creating for our kids.

Okay. Let me give you a couple insights. Okay. First of all, Stratton's going through Eagle Scouts. No, if Sans are Butts, not. He's like, Mom, no, I don't want to be an eagle boy scout. I'm like, Stratton, you are going to learn to change a tie. And we're going to learn together because I don't know how to change the time either.

So you learn from your mistakes. Right. Age 10 or age five. we're going to gift them a family Bible. Can I just say that Stella is also going through Girl Scouts because she's going to learn how to hustle those cookies, honey? I love it. Like we're going to start on Instagram and we're going to sell those cookies in the masses.

We're going to get a warehouse. Wait, I want to come back to the warehouse comment. Okay, age five, give them a family Bible, teach them the significance of it. Age 10, we take a trip to Israel, the Holy Land, learn about Jesus. Age 16 and 17, we also take them to Israel. No, age 16, Stella is sent abroad for a year to study in Barcelona. She's immersed in Spanish culture. She learns a different culture, has to speak in Spanish for a year.

Then she comes back and we, no, I had a friend, Deirdre Hafeinz, in college. Hafeinz has it. She's actually, it's not that family, but it's another, like, big family in Dallas. Very, very wealthy family. But she, Deirdre Hafein's like, I would love to sit down with her. because she came from a very like, like wealthy background, but that girl was so,

um, down to earth, hardworking, did everything. Like she, she wanted everything herself. She was not going to fall. Her parents,

uh, made her study abroad for like a year or two. Right. And she came back completely fluent in Spanish. Like was just, it's kind of the same concept of like boarding school. Yeah. Her parents like did it right.

I feel like, but I like, I couldn't send our kids to boarding school for a long period because I do think that there's a side of boarding school where it's like parents, uninvolved parents send them off because they don't want to deal with their kids. That's really sad. But there's probably a side of boarding school that teaches them independence, that teaches them how to work with others. We go visit her. We go visit her. Are you kidding? That's why I'm sending her to Barcelona. It's a good place to go visit. I don't know, babe. I don't know if I'm on board with this. Okay, we'll talk about it. We have so long.

Yeah, but I'm working on. on a life map based on their ages. We'll collaborate on together. You know my mom sent me to study abroad when I was 16. Yeah, that's weird to me. But I'm also from, I mean, we were wearing true religion. I was 15 and I was, no, I was 16. And, but I was only sent for a summer.

And I'm not going to lie to you. It to this day has impacted me because I missed home so much. Like I have so much pride in our country because of that trip. And I loved Spain. Don't get me wrong. But like I never realized like how good America was until I had to spend three months abroad. Yeah. I like literally got back and like kiss the ground.

And now like I have so much pride for our country. Like I literally will like just be thinking about how much like people put like their life on the line or how many sacrifices they put on on the line just to like defend our like I could cry. Like and it's it's just something that I feel like a lot of kids like don't unless they go and experience other, you know, cultures and like. like travels, like they don't know. And same thing like when I went to Africa for a summer. And when I was a freshman in college, same thing. Like I think it's so important because it really makes you appreciate and value what you have. And that's all that life is about is being grateful for your blessings.

It's like the Mormons going on the two-year missions. Yeah, dude, it just puts life into perspective. Like, I'll just always appreciate it. And see, I was not prepared to like leave home because I had never done it before. And like the most depressed time in my entire life was like first semester of college. Like I was really hard because like I was never, I never had that experience. And so you're either going to force your kid to do it in college or earlier and be. In little increments.

You know, my mom didn't send me for a year. She sent me for three months. Right. And that was kind of, that was really hard. I was super depressed. Gosh, we're going to build. We should share our program. It's going to be fire.

It's going to be based on our program. based on Christian and family values, like teaching them things. Like I want our kids to be well-rounded, like them to know. Like Stella walks up to the airport check-in desk. Like she knows what to do on her own. Yeah, my mom always, like when we would travel, my mom would be like, okay, Danny, like, get us to our seats. And my brother and I would have to figure out how to get us there.

And we would have to, my mom wouldn't answer any questions. And I would have a question. She goes, go ask someone. And we have to wait in line. She's like, Danny, you know, why are you waiting in this line whenever there's this person? You know, she would give me like little hints. Yeah. But my mom made it, like, if we, she would like, we would miss the flight if we couldn't get us to her seats.

Right. She was like so adamant about it. I'm supposed to run to divvy. This was a great. This was so, such a fun episode. Man, we didn't even get through like. I know, but listen, we, we spit fire this episode. I had a lot of fun.

We spit in facts. Yeah, I think we're good. Let's close it out. All right. Guys, thanks for listening to this episode of De-Influence. If you would like to subscribe, we would really appreciate it because then we know that you like us and then we'll continue to agree more. And feel free to leave us a review. Also tell your friends.

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