De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - He's Back: The Banter Resumes

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

Jordan is back after two months, and we’re catching up on everything! From a playful “time for a style change?” convo to Halloween plans, plus all the life updates in between, this episode is full of laughs, banter, and that classic Dani & Jordan energy you don’t want to miss. We scored some great deals with a few of our favorite brands for our listeners: Visit facefoundrie.com and use code DANI at checkout for 20% off your first service. Function is a near-360 view to see what's happening in your body, and my first 1000 listeners get a $100 credit toward their membership. Visit www.functionhealth.com/DANI or use gift code DANI100 at sign-up to own your health. Give yourself the luxury you deserve with Quince! Go to Quince.com/dani for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. For a limited time, our listeners are getting 25% off their entire order. Just head to CowboyColostrum.com and use code DEINFLUENCED at checkout Modern-day makeup that's clean, strategic, and multifunctional for effortless routines. For a limited time our listeners are getting a free Cool Gloss on their first purchase when they use code DANI at checkout. Just head to Jonesroadbeauty.com and use code DANI at checkout Bring your traditions to life with independent art and design this holiday season. Use code DANI for 20% off Minted Holiday Cards, Gifts and Wrapping Paper. Make sure you’re subscribed to our official channel on YouTube, @deinfluencedpodcast, and follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your De-Influenced fix! Stay connected with us on Instagram and TikTok @deinfluencedpodcast, and as always thank you for being a part of this journey.  We love y'all!! - D + J 

The following podcast is a dear media production. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast, D-Influence. Just kidding. That was good. He's back. I saw all your DMs. I know. Everybody's like, please, Jordan, please bring you back.

Like, like, y'all liked one or two solo episodes for me, but everybody's like, please, I miss Jordan. People really miss you. How does that feel? Yeah, sometimes. I didn't see any of that, but I do appreciate it. Oh, you didn't see any of it? Mm-mm.

Oh, well, it's like my entire DMs. Sometimes I just want to be wanted. Sometimes I just need to go away and then let the people decide. No, but you've been really busy. Yeah, I've been busy. Jordan's been busy. But you're back. I'm back.

Well, how are you? I'm good. I'm really good. How are you? I have a little cold. I had a hard week. Every year, there's a hard week of my life. And it is the two females, the most important females in my life, my daughter and my wife, their birthdays are back to back.

And like, what did you do to deserve that? No, it's hard. I know. I really mentally prepare for it. I feel anxious about it probably a week before. And the reason for it, Stella's a little bit easier because she's easier because Stella, is in that phase where she believes she's a princess and she is a princess. Yeah.

So she'll be very vocal about what she deserves and what she wants. And you have had this habit on your birthdays the past couple years of being like, I don't want anything. I don't want anything. Like I don't really want to like see anyone. Please don't do that. And then I just know like I have to in that moment say, do I like listen to her and respect. her wants or do I go and I try and do something for her because what she's saying underneath

what she's saying is like I want you to plan it and so this one was tricky typically I'm not trying to be mischievous no you don't know you just don't know what you want like I don't want anything and I don't want to see people and you want that until usually about four or five p.m. on the day of your birthday and then around four or five your first. face goes from happiness to sadness. Well, I, I've just, so, okay, sorry, I'll let you finish. I was going to interrupt. Yeah.

And when it goes to sadness, then it's like, okay. And it's not like you're mad at me. It's like just the birthday blues. So I have an extreme case with the birthday blues because every year on my birthday since I was a little girl, because I was born during market, like market week. So market week for my parents is like the craziest week of the year. two or three of them and they go to market at like 7 a.m. and they're gone till like 7, 8 p.m. So I never saw anyone on my birthday. So every day I'd come home or I'd wake up on my birthday

and my parents would be gone or, you know, like the day would just be another day. And I was always sad because I always felt like all these other kids had like these crazy cool birthdays. And then I was just always like, I would literally come home from school and just like kind of sit there, especially when my birthday was on a weekday. And I always had. birthday parties and stuff, but my actual birthday, I just was alone every single year. Yeah, no. I, I, it's like, I just, I just sad. Abandonment. Yeah, but like, I'm not trying to like, go out small as violin. Like, I'm fine, obviously, but like. But it was weird because, so this, this birthday, you know, Stella had a big

day, you know, because she's, she's Stella, right? Well, also, like, you have to give me some credit, I planned a very big day for her. You did. You planned a great, well, So what do we do day of Stella's birthday? So I got her those balloons. It's been kind of like Stella's birthday week. That's the problem. Like she literally, so it's Sunday. Well, it's Sunday.

Her birthday was on Wednesday. She had a party on Saturday. She comes in on Sunday still wearing a shirt that says the birthday girl. And like, she can't like understand that it's not her birthday anymore. Like on Sunday she's still wearing that. And then like she wants to wear it to school today. And it's like Monday.

And I'm like, no, honey, your birthday was last week. So now Stratton's also so confused because he's like, well, if it's her birthday every day, like, why isn't it my birthday every day? I don't get this. What do we do on her birthday? What did you play? So her birthday, I planned 5.30. They came and installed the five balloons. I wanted it to be a surprise. She comes in my bed at like probably 5, 45, 6th and she's like, mommy, there's a man outside putting up five balloons.

And I was like, oh my gosh, this is the one surprise that I really wanted. And Coco had given her like a watch with a screen on it the day before. her birthday so on Tuesday and so she ever since she got this little play it's like a play kids watch but actually has like a screen on it um which we were not aware of until she got it and so she has been waking up every single morning at like 5 am to play with her watch because she's so excited about that so so anyway that's why she was up and then she comes in our room then um we made breakfast and everything for her we gave we surprised her with her new pink car because that's all she wanted was a princess car right And then we took her lunch at school, dressed her up like a mermaid.

Remember I did her hair with the clippins and everything. Took her chick-fil-A to all of her, like, classmates. And we made goodie bags for all of the kids in her class. And then picked her up, took her to ice cream. So we're like, where do you want to go to ice cream? She's like, not this place, like this other place. So we drove like an extra 20 minutes to go to like the special ice cream place. And we got there.

And she's like, wait, no, this isn't the one. I like the one next to our house. So we had to drive all the way back to the ice cream place next to her. next to her house. We spent like an hour trying to get ice cream. Got ice cream, went home, and then we were going to go to dinner that night, but it got like, we were like also beat. So it was just her birthday. And so for your birthday, yes. I got you flowers. The only thing is you have to understand. I've also like been under the weather. Like you can probably even hear the congestion now. So, but on my birthday, all I wanted was a picture of my kids all smiling.

Yeah. And I got it in that morning. You got a whole photo sheet. Yeah. So I, I booked a photo shoot all my birthday of my three children, and that's all I wanted. And it's the best day to do it is on your birthday, because like, not that they really care. That was my birthday, but I was like, smile. It's my birthday now. That's what I want for my birthday is for you to smile. And then they're forced to. Yeah. So about a week prior to Danny's birthday, I asked her what she wanted. And there was, what was that bag we saw? Oh, the row bag. But it's suede. And you can only wear it like during fall winter. And it's so cute. But I was just like, if I'm going to spend that much, it's an extensive bag, I would like it to be a year round back.

Yeah, but you were telling me all about it. It's like not, it's like, it's like, not a subtle luxury or whatever. So anyway, I was like, hey, I'll get you that. And then you were like, no, I don't want that. I was like, please, do not get me that. And it was a type of please that was like, like, firm. It was like not, I'm saying please and I actually want you to do it. It was like firm. So I didn't do that. So I got you flowers and I got you a card. But sorry, sorry. The only reason I told you about the row bag is because I wanted you to see how silly it was that that bag was that expensive. And then you're like, I'll get it for you. And I was like, no, like the point is, is that it's shocking to me that bag is that much. Can I tell you

something? The amount of money that I would be willing to spend to avoid the birthday blues and feeling like a failure on your birthday is insurmountable. Like, I don't even know how much it was. I wouldn't even care. I'd have been like, whatever it takes to not feel at the end of the day. That would have made me feel icky because I was like that's just so crazy to me. Well, let me finish my story because here's what's confusing. Okay, sorry, sir. Is that so we start the day off, flowers, card, great. It's beautiful.

Yeah, we're going, we're going well. Simple. Then we do the photo shoot and I go to the photo shoot. I make sure I go to the photo shoot. I'm like, okay, like I got to be quality time present. So we're trucking there. And then all Danny wanted after several interrogations was just a cozy, night in with her girlfriends. So I made a flyer on Canva. Circulated it a week before. And you wanted

pizza hut. So then I do that. Okay. And then around three o'clock, and I believe you, you were sick. I was not feeling good. Around three o'clock, Danny's like, you know what? I don't think I want to have my friends over tonight. And I go, hey, let's just give it an hour. I'm like, you always feel better. I really was feeling I know, but there was a side of it, maybe 10%, 20%, that felt more comfort in my parents are at market. Oh my gosh. No, I'm so over that. I just need to be alone on my birthday. Oh, shut up.

No, no. That's still not what it is. So then I can't- No, because I always have my girlfriend's over, like, for my birthday. We always do pizza night. That's kind of like my thing is we do sweats and, like, pizza on my birthday. Okay, but here's the thing that haunts me to this day. I'm fine with you canceling the girls' night.

What haunts me is that the next day you go to Highland Park Village and I'm like, is she going to buy a bag for herself? I did put myself on a wait list. That's what I'm saying. I offered to get you a bag. So do you understand how set up for failure I feel? No, because I was so proactive in being like, okay, this, this and this. And then it was like, you know, in your mind, what I was scared you were telling yourself is you were like, no one, like he didn't even get me anything. Okay, wait a second. Let's just back up here for a second because I did go to Holland Park Village. I put my name on a on a list, which doesn't mean I'm ever going to get it. But what did I buy that day? Yeah, you bought something for me, which was really confusing. Then I was like, my mind is after right now because I was like, I have no idea what's going on. I was like she had the birthday blues and then she was making up for the birthday blues because she feels like her needs weren't met. And then she ends up getting me something. So,

So am I good or am I bad? I just don't think it's like that deep. Well, yeah, no, probably not. But yeah, I mean, I think we agreed to this probably on Sunday after this whole saga. The point of that story is- We agreed on Sunday that you were having some hormones. No, we didn't agree to that. You accused me of having hormones.

We did. I never said, yeah, you're right. I'm being hormonal. No, but we were watching a show. And I said, Jordan, stop. because I was like, it's going to piss me off the more that you accused me of like hormonal acting. You didn't, you didn't acknowledge the hormones, but what you did say is we were watching this show where a woman was in a high powered position and Danny said, women shouldn't carry high powered positions because we're really unstable. And that to me was like you acknowledging that you are going to get me so canceled.

You were acknowledging that yes, I have been quite hormonal lately. Well, no, some women can handle their emotions better than me. so maybe some women should be in high-powered positions. You know what I'm just saying is I shouldn't be in one, okay? Because you're a horrible. I'm just saying, don't vote for me for president because you'll have three weeks of the month that'll be great and then one will be horrible. Yeah.

So I'll just. But we survived. So my birthday is January 3rd and I'm going to give her hell. Jordan, do you know I've already been shopping for your birthday for like two weeks? Well, good luck because whatever you get me, I'm going to go shopping for it. myself the next day. Okay. To me, it's not that deep. Jordan always feels like there's a thing beneath the thing beneath the thing. And sometimes I'm just like, no, it's just like I didn't want to do anything on my birthday. And now I feel better on Friday. So I'm going to go like,

look at nice things. No, I honestly think that that's like, it's actually been inner Jordan. There's been a lot going on in here, like learning about you. And I, I realized. And we've been together for 10 years. I had this thought and I was like, I don't even know her anymore. I was like, I was like, I feel like I understand her less the more the time goes on. And I really had that epiphany. And I was like, how does that make you feel? No,

I think that I actually feel peace about it because I think I just realized that women are the most complex creatures. And I don't think that we're designed to understand. Because if we, if we were given the knowledge, like if I bit the apple and I was given the knowledge of how you work, I don't know. it's like that's what the whole lifetime of marriage is for.

Like what would you be doing? It just keeps me chasing. I'm like, I don't understand you. And then we fight about it. And then I'm like, oh, I kind of understand you.

And then we get to this other layer and I'm like, I don't understand. And it's because it just, it's like, I saw, I feel like the algorithm, my Instagram algorithm like really, or your Instagram algorithm knows that I'm on your Instagram

because it serves me content. And can you please get off of my Instagram. By the way, just so you know, Jordan doesn't have an Instagram, he has mine. So if you're ever getting story replies, story views, it's Jordan. Yeah, for sure. Which is like also sometimes kind of like hard because people probably see that I'm watching

their stories and then in person they think I know what's going on in their life and but you're really the one watching it. Yeah, no, for sure. But anyway, there was this Australian guy and he was like, I'm not going to try and emulate his accent, but he was like, he was like, the wife is like, he's like, you're the sea wall And she's the wave splashing against you. And I was like, oh my gosh. I was like, I saved it.

I actually think I could play it. Play it. I don't know. I don't think I've seen this one. It's so, it's so deep and so real. And I was like, gosh, thank you Mark Zuckerberg for this. It's like, I really need to hear this right now.

Oh, this is another one that I got. Intended to be in discipline and daily routine. The woman is the feminine. And is that to do with our cycles? Oh, sorry. save this maybe. I'll get control over saving that one. Our cycles.

That was me trying to understand. I can't. Oh my gosh. I would love to see your chat, GPT. Owen. Like, oh my God, you totally use chat as like a little,

um, therapist every day of how to deal with me. Um, well, you've been pregnant for like six years straight. So I feel like. Look at us both on our new phones. I know.

We both have the iPhone 17. I got orange and Jordan got Navy. I'm just not used to seeing something like that in Jordan's hands because he's always had this tiny little iPhone. I know. It's like tiny cups, tiny iPhones. They're just like miniature things. Okay, let's be honest for a second. Wellness can get so confusing.

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Let me see if it comes out. It'll be sure. Oh. Did you write it? Well, I found the guy. Hold on this. Beach water. Yes.

Every day different. Some days calm and clear. Some days. The daughter. Daughter. This is the daughter. the only constant for a girl is change. The tides pulling her in directions she never chose.

Everyone judges the beach against their expectations. Too rough, too calm, too cold. Not what they wanted today. Everyone needs something from the water. Comfort, beauty, peace, but no one asks what the beach needs. What is the mother? The mother. This is you.

That was stellar. She knows those shallow tides because she lived him. I think it's like a mother post menopause. Our daughter can't even see yet. Storms that would terrify the beach. Still, she's expected to be beautiful, bountiful, providing everything without receiving. Sometimes they clash.

Beach meeting ocean creates massive riptides. Which I've also experienced. Which I've also experienced. Both changing, both under pressure, both exhausted from being. everything to everyone. That's you. And me? Exhaust it.

I'm the harbour wall. I don't understand water. I'm stone. I can't feel the tides. I can't change with the currents. I don't know what it's like to be pulled by the moon. To change without choosing. To be needed by everyone while drowning.

But I don't need to understand. I need to be the one thing that doesn't change. The fixed point they can crash against without breaking me. The shelter that's always there, no matter how far they say, well, how, why. Okay, you get to just. But anyway, that changed my life. I was like, this algorithm is dialed. Well, good.

I'm so happy. Thank you for being my wall. Do you feel like I'm a wall? I feel like I've really tried to be better at being a wall. Because I used to be like, all right, the moon's pulling. pulling you. It'll pull me too. You're like, I'm jumping right in the ocean.

No, I feel that for sure. Yeah. I feel the, the rigidity of the law. You know. Yeah. Well, I think what you think you want is for me to... Jump right in.

Yes, that's what you think that you want. And this has been the most interesting thing about our marriage is that you think that that's what you want. But I think what you really want is the safety. of the wall? I don't know. Wall sound kind of boring. Let me think about it.

Let me ponder on that one for maybe, I don't know, a week or so. Yeah, it'll take you a while. Yeah, I mean, but we did have some, it was an exciting week. It was exhausting, really on both of us. A lot of logistics going into, tell us birthday. Yeah, what's been going on on this podcast? since I've been gone. Well, is that my hair?

Yeah, have you been sent to my seat? No, I actually haven't. Yeah, so it's been, it's been, you know, speaking of waves. We've had highs and lows. Okay. I would say by last week's episode was probably one of my lows. I talked about Doge for like about 45 minutes. And, you know, I go pretty deep.

Just you? Yeah, so. I'm talking about the government and IRS and how poorly they've run. run and I mean that's the one thing is I don't really know how that fits into de-influence but the thing is is like when I'm when I have to talk for 60 minutes on my own like I just there's like 30 minutes and I'm like okay I'll talk about things that are relevant and then 30 minutes where I'm like okay well I'll just gonna talk about what I find interesting this week and you know every week I do like the most random deep dive like they didn't ever get to experience my deep dove on

octopuses like but I went pretty deep for octopi and just so you know it actually is pusses. It's not octopi, but I know that sounds better. Um, yeah, so there's just, it's been a little all over the place. Yeah. We sure did miss you. Well, we really did. Yeah, it was kind of, it's funny because we started strong without you. Oh, no, I knew exactly what was going to happen. I was like, I was like, I don't even know man. Yep. You know, I was like, I got this. Well, so I really did it. And you know what? I really don't sometimes. Okay. So I'm fine. But, it's better this way. But I would need you, but this is just better.

Why can't you just admit? I just am saying. Because I can do it if I had to. Yeah. Every four or so months, Danny's got to prove to herself and me that she don't need me or any man. No, I don't do it like that, that,

you know, in your face. Okay. Anyway, what happened was I said, hey, I need to take a break from the podcast. You should take a break with me. And Danny said, I don't, I don't need no man. And then I was like, okay. And what I knew was going to happen is imagine our podcast studio is a metaphorical stage.

I knew that Danny was going to march right onto the center of that stage. And the lights were going to shine on her. And she was going to say, let me talk about Charlie Kirk. And let me talk about this. And then I just knew after like three or four weeks, it was going to start, okay, I'm running out of things to talk about. Okay, that's not sure. I think we did two months.

About two months. Like, that's pretty freaking good. Okay, two months. Yeah, we did about eight episodes. Yeah, yeah. And so then, and then it was like. I mean, that's pretty impressive. For someone that didn't go into launching the podcast, like doing it solo,

like I didn't ever, like that's not my gift. My gift is being a co-host. Yeah, yeah. You know? No, for sure. Well, your gift is being the main character with a co-host. No, you're the main character, too. No, no, no, no.

Okay, whatever. So, so, but anyway. It's 50% with the podcast. So, so how did it go? I mean, what's been? I mean, I'm just telling you. What's the most controversial thing you talked about? Oh, I mean, I did an invitation for people to accept Jesus into their hearts.

I prayed about that. so I might be seeing new people in heaven because of me so that's pretty cool I'm just kidding that's so fun though they got to like get you know because like every night pillow talk I get Danny in the raw like she just whispers in my ear about Doge and stuff and then you guys got that full experience yeah I went crazy on Doge what other random topics did I have Charlie Kirk was the first one I think that was a big one that was a deep dive I've had other deep dives, though. You did your friendships.

You had a whole episode about that. Deep dive. But what was like another random deep dive? I'm trying to remember. You don't remember what you said. You blacked out. I literally don't know. And that's the thing about me is I'll study for like hours for a podcast.

You know, like when I do these podcasts with myself, I prepare for like two hours. Yeah. And then you know, babe, I don't remember anything. I don't remember anything I said. I don't even really remember what Doge is. But you know what? You performed. I mean, I gave people what they wanted.

My thing is, is sometimes it got so hard. I didn't know what people wanted anymore. Because I get confused of like, because sometimes it's interesting to me, but it's not interesting to other people. Yeah. I do feel like I talked about the government a lot. Well, I think that subconsciously that was like, because like, that's my thing.

And so I think it was like subconsciously like, you know what? I don't need no man. I don't need Jordan. I'm going to talk about the government. No, I'm going to be honest. with you, it was things that I found interesting. No, you actually have a brilliant mind. You really do. God love him. No, I'm actually serious. I'm serious. You really, you, you go deep on several things. The only problem is you forget it. I know, but I do go deep on pretty much everything. Oh,

we should talk about the movie we watched last night. Yeah, what was it called? House of Dynamite. It's great. Oh, it's so good. It's so good. I think everybody should watch it. It's on Netflix. I think it's like number two. I think it's number one on like the movie section right now. And the thing is about me, when I vote for presidents for some reason, ever since I've been a little girl, I have pictured like whoever I'm voting for for president is like in a war room sending missiles and going to war.

Like I've always pictured that version of a president. And then I've never really seen it. ever since that, you know, you know, like in Austin Powers when he's like sitting in a chair and he's like, and he's like pushing the button? Like I always, Dr. Evil. Dr. Evil, yeah. You know, I just always love a president, you know, kind of like that. You know, like, does he push the button or not?

And so I've always voted for people that I'm like, yes, of course, like social issues are matter and all these things. But I'm always like, will he be able to protect us in war? in this movie actually like set up that scene for me yeah but it also showed that like it's not really the the president makes the final decision but it's like the bureaucracy of the people around him pushing for different but like you have to admit like he made the final decision that's so crazy to me honestly I don't want to ruin the ending but wait no don't well you can't really ruin the ending yeah I mean like you don't but doesn't matter don't talk about that don't

it for people. Okay. They need to watch it. It's a, it's a great thing to watch. Like, it was, it's highly engaging. I would say the ending, eh. I know, but you know, babe, it really makes Shepaunner. You know, that was the point.

Yeah. You want to know what I think, though? I think that they just didn't have the budget to like do a freaking good ending. No, I, because the only thing is so the whole, we tell them what the movie's about. The movie's about a, a, uh, a missile coming to hit the content. continental US that they don't know where it came from. And it's basically like unfolding the crisis of the 30 minutes that they become aware of the missile. 18 minutes, I think. 18 minutes that they become aware of the missile hitting us. And it plays it out from different perspectives of how they handled it in real time. And you know what I have a I was just thinking it'd be cool. It'd be cool if in the movie when they showed it was actually 18 minutes for each perspective. I was it? I don't know, but that would be cool. Maybe they did do that. But what's happening? Not to be cynical, but like what's happening is like there's so much content now. And you can just tell that Netflix is really dialing in this model of let's get like one name actor.

Let's not have any crazy CGI or explosions or action scenes. And let's just do like high character driven drama that is fast cut like a TikTok. And it captures you in the first like three minutes that you're watching it. So it's kind of like the TikTokification of. content and I guarantee you that that didn't cost them that much to make the movie. No, because they never actually even, so like, no, I better not say. But like, okay, so this is a very similar type of movie as the lost school bus with Matthew McConaughey. Yeah, see, great marketing. I'm like, I want to watch that. That's amazing. Matthew McConaughey,

obviously. Yeah. You could tell it was probably pretty low budget and, but it was so enticing and so engaging because it leaves you on this like huge cliffhanger at the very beginning. Yeah. And it's super like fast pace. It's very smart. It's smart. They know how to make content. Well, they have a lot of data. Like I think that Netflix invested like billions of dollars in their like data analytics of like they test the thumbnails. They test like when do people. It's like YouTubers. Like they test when do people drop off. So they know they have this model now that like the studio system doesn't have that is like we don't. We don't. really need seven name actors. We can get one and just write the script in this way and you will watch it throughout the whole thing. But then what happens is like all of these movies that I watch,

I don't, like they don't, they don't leave a lasting impression. So I end up going and watching like all of the studio movies that like are so good. Like what's the one we saw with Leonardo DiCaprio? That was a huge bust. That was pretty good. Yeah. was, what's it called? The one battle after another. Yeah. That was like a two and a half hour movie. Yeah.

So, am I wrong about it? Yeah, four billion. So, so like, four billion or four billion? Four billion.

So I was, because they have like 250 million subscribers at like 20 bucks a piece. That's like $4.7 billion that they have. Did you just do that mental math in your head? No, I have a calculator. Oh, okay.

Remember when Artie just taught us that we'd never have a, you're never going to have a calculator in your pocket. So probably what's, I don't know this for sure, but what's happening in Hollywood is like, all these studios are like, wait, Netflix is the only one who knows how to make content that matters. And then Netflix is like, we don't really need you studios. And all of the, it's kind of sad. It's really, that's why we're being raised with just crap movies. But I really did like that movie. Maybe I actually do like this model. Well, I think it's like, it's a.

numbers game. You just kind of. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. To me, that movie left, like, left a last, like, left elastic impact on me. Well, there's going to be certain ones that, like, like, what is Jin Z's version of friends? Or the, the Titanic. Or the, yeah, or the Titanic. What's their version of that? Oh, well, probably like, Barbie. I don't know. Or somewhere I turn pretty. Or Oppenheimer. No, not somewhere I turn pretty. There's still, like, pretty good movies being made out there. Yeah, yeah. Anyway. Yeah. Well, yeah, y'all should watch it. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. And then, man, I just, it was kind of funny to watch that after, like, blasting the government with Doge. And then you watch that movie and you're like, wow, they actually are pretty competent in security. Yeah. So what else? What else is going on? life.

What are you laughing? I don't know. What? I don't know. I'm just thinking about when you were squirming in your seat by yourself without me here. Just being like, oh my gosh, I just talked about Doge for 20 minutes. Okay. First of all, I only swirmed for probably the last two episodes.

The other episodes, you can ask Nate, I actually talked way too much. I, like, would have eight segments and then I would only get to three. No, yeah, all of them were over an hour, too. I don't even think I can last an hour. We're struggling at 31 minutes. We're struggling. Though that was the most surprising thing about doing solo episodes is when I was prepared, I would so overprepared that I would have, like, I would run out of time. Yeah.

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And I would rip out like an ad from Ralph Lauren. And I would take it to T.J. Max and try to find the exact look. Well, Jordan has been dressing like a certain way for quite some time, you know, like the Nikes with the skinny jeans. with the Abercrombie teas. It's fine. It's a great look. I'm fine with it.

But, you know, it is like, it's like, you know, everybody kind of evolves. Like, that was like the end of an era. And so I've been trying to get Jordan to dress a little bit, just more mature, you know. And, um, but it's been a battle because he's very stubborn in his skinny jeans. He likes things his way. So I knew I was going to have to take this into my own hands, you know. And so I took him to probably the most expensive store I could find in Dallas. Like I was just like, I just want to go.

put him in something so grand so that he can see my vision. So I did. I took him there and I had him put on this ridiculous outfit. And he was like, dang, this is good. Like, I get it. Like, admit it. You put that on. You felt pretty, pretty swell.

Yeah, it was. Yeah, of course. What, say what you really want to say. Please. I just, when I said, oh my gosh, I feel like a million bucks. you're talking about when I said that? You were wearing a million bucks probably. I know, but I, you know, you put me with that man who was the stylist.

Mani, I love him. There was a lot of pressure in the room to love everything I was wearing. Baby, it was just me and Mani. I know, but he was forceful. No, he wasn't. He just, he wanted so. You know, be careful. He probably is a de-influence listener.

He wanted so bad for me to be excited about the clothes that I was wearing. Because we were so excited. I know. I know, I know, I know. So you're saying you didn't like it? No, I did. I just, I didn't love it. What?

Yeah, I didn't love it. What did you not like? I didn't like the shoes. Really? The jacket? The jacket was okay. What? But it wasn't like, like, you know, how much it was.

Forget about price. Like, did you like it though? The cashmere sweater, I could see your vision for that look. really out of everything you like the cashmere sweater yeah yeah the pullover that's the one thing that i'm in i'm in a i'm in a pullover era okay this is uh this is lulu okay so anyway you i do catch your vision i catch your vision okay you caught the vibe i caught the vibe okay so now i'm not kidding all like one of the jackets he tried on was ten thousand dollars it's like ridiculous.

So. Yeah, I felt gross. I was like, I was like, what? And then I was like, you could pass it on to strad me. Yeah. I was like. It was also sweet. So it would probably be like sort of yesterday by the time that.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's just like who does that? Like who who, who, what kind of man walks into that store and buys that? A lot of men, babe. Just not men like us. I mean, obviously it's their reason. And that's what I'm saying is I was like, I don't, I don't belong here. I was like, I felt really good.

I was wearing like a suit supply jacket and a button up walking in there. And I leave and you feel like so. And I genuinely, I had gotten compliments at church on this jacket and I walked into, what's it called Laura? Laura Piana. And I walked in there feeling good. And then I walked out feeling homeless. I was like, I, it's so weird.

I was like, I felt so good. And now I feel like there's this whole other world that I'm like, I was better off in ignorance, honestly. This is so true. And so whatever, I put him in the look. I got the vibe that you had to admit they had cool stuff though. Yeah, no. I mean, like it's. It was nice.

Yeah, of course we all want to be that. Okay. Of course. I'm just trying to get you to admit that it was cool. It was a good vision. It was a good vibe. It was a good style. Yeah, for sure.

That's all I'm really saying. No, for sure. I don't want you to buy the $10,000 jacket. No, for sure. Anyway, I got the vision for you, and now I have been bargain hunting. And I took pictures of what we liked at Laurel Piana. No, I really, really hope man, he's not listening. And I have been getting the look for less.

Let me tell you, and this is not sponsored, but Keats, our sponsor, like, they have cashmere for like $59. $99. Don't, do y'all want to know how much the cashmere sweater is that Laura Piano are? How much were they? $2,500. Yeah, that's crazy business. I was looking on Keynes and you could get the same similar look for $59.79.00. So I put in a big order for you. And then I did, so I did that. And then I did um, uh, you know, suit supply actually had some really good. Suge is good good. Suede supply highly,

highly endorsed. No, they had great, like kind of lookalikes and like not crazy expensive prices. No, no, no, no really good prices. I mean, I guess, you. leave there and you're like a $5,000 jacket and you see like a $300 jacket and you're like, wow, this is a bargain. I just don't, I genuinely don't understand the psychology. Like, I want to see how this Kaints brand feels. And I, I want to know, okay, like, do I genuinely feel the quality is different? Because here's the thing is like, they're all handmade in like Italy, the Laura Piano ones. Yeah, like here's the thing is that they're not manufactured. Right. But, but the problem is my lifestyle.

does not support having nice things like that. Like I, do you know how much crap I got for hiking in Travis Scott's? No, it's disgusting. It's disgusting. And I'm sorry, I'm a disgusting human being. But like that cat. He doesn't understand the luxury also because he didn't buy them. I bought them for him.

Y'all, he plays like pickleball and Travis Scott sneakers. Like they're a really nice pair of sneaker and it like kills me. It's like, guys, I just want to say it's like, it's like hiking and working out. in like a Chanel flat. Like you're just like, why are you doing that? Like you've so many other shoes and like it even looks silly. Like why would you hike in the Chanel flat? Yeah.

And if anyone thinks I'm flexing, I'm not. I'm just stupid. Like I just am straight like to have no idea. And here's the thing is that I was like, Danny, if you get me this cashmere sweater, I am 100% gonna put it in the dryer. I know you'll ruin it. And I'm gonna-

That's why I would never do that. Yeah, no. And so I can't support that. But I also think if I wore the same jacket at suit supply, I don't know if I would be able to tell the difference in quality. Oh, I could definitely tell a difference. That Laura Piano one, the way that it was made and had that built-in vest in it, but that's okay.

Like, you don't need to know. Yeah, I'm just a small little brain. You just wear your little bonobos. I don't like bonobos. Well, I bought you a jacket from there. Their pants fit weird. Okay, I didn't buy you the pants, but they had a jacket that looked super similar as the Lorapiano one.

Different color, but it had this like suede collar. It looked so cute. bought that for you. I think that one was like 200. Did you buy stuff from Susan's like? I was going to go on Friday. I already booked an appointment. I did. But that's okay. I'll go with you. Okay. That would be great. Oh yeah. I got you a black belt black loafers. We also have a yeah, we'll have a good yeah because they book you with a stylist so we'll have like a mediator too. Oh, we'll have a mediator so we don't buy like it was so great like oh my god I'm so excited. Yeah, maybe we can. You know why it's because you're you're my prize possession.

So when on my birthday when I went to Helen Park Village, I bought things for. for you. Okay. I love that. That's so sweet. You're the best. Yeah, you're my gift. You're the best. I didn't, yeah, I love that. Well, I just on your birthday, I didn't feel like the gifts. Well, because on my birthday, I was sick and so sorry, not everything's about you. That's such true. How dare I? And my birthday, I can act however I want. It's my birthday. Yeah, for sure, for sure. What's so funny, can I just tell you a story? Sure.

So, Danny on her birthdays growing up on Christmases. Okay, what is, okay, just go into it. I mean, I just feel like we're always going back to my childhood and you're the one that brings it up, not me. Okay, go. Growing up on her birthday and Christmases. How do you even know this? You didn't even know me. Well, because it happened when we were dating and engaged too.

Okay. Every Christmas, Tornado, we love her. She would, Danny would be like, hey, I want a Mark Jacobs watch. This is so true. And all the girls in like eighth, ninth grade are like getting like Mark Jacob watches. And I promise. I'm going to bring this full circle. So don't, Tornado is going to be fine.

Every, every birthday, Danny would be like, I want a Mark Jacobs watch. And Tornado would go to like Sam's Club. Every, every freaking time. And get her a knockoff version of this thing that Danny wanted. Every time. And for years. I went like Nike sneakers and she would go to like Walmart and get the ones that like look like 90 sneakers but like don't have the swish.

For years, every Christmas we'd be heading over to tornadoes and I'd be like, it's going to go down. Because Danny asked for X and she got Y. I always got the discounted dupe. And so that was always like a story. and it was just a huge part of like Danny's growth. My childhood. And I just find it, you know, I've really,

I've really had an appreciation for the mother-daughter dynamic between you and your mom lately. And the argument I've been making to both of you guys is... You know what? She didn't get me anything for my birthday. I'm going to text her about it right now. No, no, no, don't. Please.

We're in a good spot. I'm just going to say, did you get me to my birthday? No, stop. Okay. God, please stop. I just brokered peace. So, okay. So what's so funny is that

Danny took me to a Laura Piano store to look at a $10,000 jacket. Oh my gosh, I didn't know they were going to have it. And then she spent all day yesterday looking for the knockoff. And she is presenting it to me as a good gift. that she is so excited about it. And I am excited about it. You know I would have supported you if you wanted to buy the $5,000 jacket.

No, I for sure. I believe your mother would have supported you too. No, she wouldn't have. I wanted the real Mark Jacobs watch. Okay. It was also probably $150. And then she goes to Sam's and buys one for $89, which is like so close to $150 or $120, whatever.

Yeah. All I'm saying is that I think as time goes on, you've learned to gather a greater appreciation for your mother and her tendencies. And it's not a bad thing. But this is so different. Okay. Because you didn't even want the jacket. Totally.

That's, you're right. Like, if you came to me and you're like, I want that jacket, I would get you that jacket. Uh-huh. But you didn't even want the jacket. Yeah. So I'm just buying you things to buy you things. Totally. Yeah.

You know what? I'm not going to stop for anyone. Okay. This is what's happening. Okay. This is what I get. for trying. Okay.

I don't mind you trying. I actually appreciate the dupes. I actually appreciate the dupes. They're not even dupes. There's a $200 jacket at sue supply. Yeah. That's not even a dupe. If you want me to go to Chinatown, I'll get you a dupe.

It's so different. You're right. That was so dumb. Let's cut it out of the podcast, but also don't just for the record. Okay. You know what? I just am not feeling very appreciated. So you know what?

I'm not going to do this. Forget that date to suit. fly. I'm going to go hang on my friends. I'm going to go do a podcast by myself. He's like, you can do eight podcasts by yourself. Yeah.

Why don't you do? Yeah. You can do the next eight by yourself. How easy it is for you. Oh, you are so appreciated. I love you. I cherish you.

I've been trying. No, I believe you. And I love you for it. And I recognize it. And I affirm that. Mm. Okay.

Anyway. In a weird way, I think we're in the best place of our marriage right now. Do you feel like that? I don't know. That one kind of hurt my feelings. Oh, that one did. Okay. That was too far.

I felt we were laughing. We were having fun. No, I know, but I thought we were just joking around. I know, but I really have spent like hours shopping for you. No, I know. And I've been looking at nice things too. I know. Babe, I believe you.

I'm so excited for this trial. Like I almost got you a thousand dollar jacket, but I knew you'd be mad at me. No, I'm, babe, I'm going to go downstairs. When does it come in? Today, tomorrow. Well, the good news is you're going to try on your Batman costume that I also got for you for Halloween. And I'm going to throw out the rotting pumpkins. And you have to throw out the rotting pumpkins and the balloons from Stella's 5 that are all dying.

Okay. I'm going to do all three of those things because you know why? I love you. And I appreciate you. Okay. I'm just going to text manny. He's my man. It did seem like you'll have something special.

I was curious about that. We really hit it off. I know, he's a sweet man. Like, I'm like, he's like, Danny. We met like 24 hours before. He is so perfect to work in a store like that. He's just probably my newest friend. He's the only person that I would text and would just like, like 100% always agree with everything I say.

Yeah, no, I closed the door to the dressing room and it wasn't soundproof. And he was like, you got him in here. And you're like, I got him in here. And I heard the whole conversation. And I was like, I'm just going to pretend like, he said, Dan, you did it. And I'm like, yeah. He was like, let's dress him like a million bucks.

Let's spend some money. And you're like, yeah, me. This is a good time. I do want to ask you something. Because this has been a big topic with all my friends. And just on the internet and, you know, with everybody hating, like, I think I still get a real once a day sent by my mother about how demonic Taylor Swift is. how are you feeling about Halloween this year?

A lot of my friends are not letting their kids dress up and do trick or treat this year. I say we skip it. Okay. What do you say? Why? I just, it's not, it's not the demon stuff. I just don't really like dressing up. But how do you feel about just Halloween in general?

We've never talked about this. Well, how do you feel about it? We've had some crazy run-ins lately. Yeah, we have. Well, it says, okay, so it has Christian, first of all, it has Celtic roots. Over 2,000 years ago, the selt celebrated some sowing on, is that what it's called? Soen on October 31st, making the end of harvest and start of winter, marking the end of harvest and start of winter. They believe the veil between the living and the dead was thinnest, so they lit bonfires and wore costumes to scare off spirits.

Then there's a Christian influence. in the 7th century, the Catholic Church established All Saints Day, also called All Hallows Day, on November 1st to honor all saints and martyrs. The evening before, October 31st, became known as All Hallows Eve, literally Eve of All Hallows. Over time, this name was shortened to Halloween. The church likely chose this date to absorb and replace the pagan Sew-in Festival, a common strategy in early Christian hero. Many so-in customs like bonfires and costumes were adapted in. to Christian practice, creating a blend of religious observance and folk tradition. Solling. Okay, let's see.

Soul caves. Solling or soul cakes means it's in medieval Europe, people would go door to door, offering prayers for the dead and exchange for small cakes, a practice that influenced trick or treating. Some occult groups do celebrate and attempt to have spiritual encounters on Halloween, but that is not a large representation of how the average person participates. participates in Halloween. I don't know. So what do you think about it? I think it probably probably opt out versus opt in. Okay, but I know you don't like just in, but I'm not talking

about you personally. I'm talking about the children. No, that's what I'm talking about too. Okay. I just feel like there's been a lot of like, it's like, you know, world's kind of in a crazy place, you know. Isn't it always? Like I used to go to haunted houses. I don't think I did anymore. So that's the best way to flirt with like your fifth grade boyfriend. Totally. You get to hug the whole way. You like skim their fingers and you're like, whoa.

That you hold hands. That jolt that goes through your spine. And they're like all over you like. Yeah. And then you're like, yeah. But like then like the girl you're holding hands with is also like holding hands with your friend. Yeah.

Did that just. Oh no. Sorry. I was like yeah. Oh wait. You were that girl. No. Trust me.

I think I wanted to be that. girl but I wasn't. No yeah like the whole just man that's a part of childhood right there and then you're like up late you're like parents mom drives you home yeah and you're like out in the middle of nowhere gosh what a thrill what a thrill I loved I didn't like haunted houses because honestly I would keep my eyes closed the whole time and I would just hug whoever I was interested in at that time I could see you liking haunted houses though because you like to skydive no I don't I don't like evil things though yeah I've never really like But I like them because what I would always do.

So my key move when it came to flirting with a boy at the haunted house was I would always get underneath their shirt. Like literally. And I would. Forward. Yeah. So I would put my head underneath their shirt like from the back. So my forehead is on their back. And so I was actually completely covered, shielded from all of the evil.

Yeah. And then also I was getting kind of like grinding up on somebody. And I would just hug them kind of like a bear hug. It's so funny. Why didn't you go like the front? Because I just, I felt like I was too Potentially kissed. No, because I was like, I'm not like a kisser like that.

I'm not a slap, Jordan. Oh my gosh. I'm not that forward. He's probably like, who's in my back? No. And so, but I liked, I didn't like to go forward because sometimes I would open my eyes and see what was happening. So if you just go underneath the shirt and you look down, you only see the feet around you. So you know if there's something scary happening.

But if you can't see them, then. Yeah, yeah. That's a good move, babe. No. So I always, I always. I always did the haunted houses because I never saw anything. I literally would get my eyes up, like, close the whole time. The sounds sometimes get you.

Yeah, the sounds get you. But that was enough for me. Or everyone else being scared. Yeah, but like I never do scary evil movies. I've never seen any of those. I would, signs is probably the scariest movie I've ever seen. That was scary when you see the little leg. Yeah, when they cut the fingers off.

Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, yeah, I just, I don't, I don't know if it's like, I don't know if it's the time we're in or it's like the age that we're at. I just like don't want to mess with scary movies or anything evil. We don't do like we don't do scary Halloween decor. We don't do any of that. But I will say to me this is kind of like, okay. So Stella and Shetner are like so excited about the candy. Like they all they care about is the candy.

Yeah. Okay. And then of course, like he cannot wait. to dress up like Spider-Man. Like, he's so stoked about that. Stella is so excited about dressing up like a mermaid. Like, you know, it's, it is like the Super Bowl for these children. They're just like, cannot wait.

I remember the thrill of like Halloween. I was like, I'm going to get so much freaking candy tonight. Like, yeah. And it was so fun to go with my neighbors and we go door to door. And it was just like the best time, like of my childhood. Like, I just had so much fun. And to me, like, I never. ever in my life, probably until like my 30s, understood that Halloween was actually ever even

evil or had evil like roots tied to it whatsoever. And I just thought everybody's trying to scare each other and whatever. To me, this is one of those things that if you put your foot down, your kids will be so annoyed because they have such a pure heart going into it, that your your kids will be so annoyed because they're going to be like, I just want to get candy with my friends. Like, why is that so wrong? To me, that's an opportunity where you have a kid that rebels. Like when I think when you stop a child from doing something that they feel is so pure at the time, whether it's like they want to dance to a song or they want to join tap or they want to dress up and go get candy. And they are like really, I do, I don't think that they have ill intentions.

pensions or ill will or nasty hearts when they're like on Halloween like I think they literally just want to go with their friends and get candy and to me that's going to be like one of those things where they go to school and they're like your mom didn't let you trick or tree and then they're going to be like yeah my parents are crazy like and so then it's like now I know my parents are crazy now I'm now I'm going to not listen to my parents now I'm going to go do what all my friends are doing because their parents are actually normal and my parents are not normal like I don't know there's just some things that I think like, and I'm not saying because, but I think that you also teach your kids about the evil parts about Halloween and how we aren't, like, we have rules and guidelines. Like, I don't let,

first of all, still think that witch is like the worst word in the world. Like, she thinks the witch is like the B word. So like, it's close. Yeah. So whenever somebody says which, she goes, mommy says, I can't say that word. Because I don't like, I've been telling her since this is like two years old. I was like, you're not going to say the word which. And I think it's because we watch a, a Disney show or something with a witch in it. And I said, that is a very bad person. I said, you do not say that word, witch. She thinks it's a bad word. And whenever she sees like a witch costume or she sees it at the, at the mall, whatever, she always says, those are bad people. Like, mommy, mommy doesn't let me say that word. And so things like that that that I'm teaching her,

like, we don't do evil costumes. We don't do scary movies. We don't do this or that, like, you know, and the things that you teach them obviously about Jesus, I feel like trump a lot of those other things. But I just feel like you have to be very careful with how strict you are with your kids. Like even the Taylor Swift argument. Like I saying like Stella, you can't listen to Taylor Swift or like your kids can't listen to Taylor Swift or something. You do what you do. But I think it's more about teaching your kid like, hey, Taylor Swift says it. like it's not right like don't listen to the song and like i hope that you learn to have that personal conviction like yourself and that you learn to like listen to things that like do they make

you feel good or do they make you feel bad and like let them learn that and decide on their own instead of saying you can't listen to her stuff because like she's going to be like my mom and dad don't let me do anything and that's when you get crazy kids that want to go party you go crazy because they feel like they were so restricted can i tell you something that's why i'm so thankful to have you as a wife and a mother to our children because like I think I'm pretty strict I say no a lot yeah you say no for no reason I know you've told me that and I've they're like they're like daddy can we call on the side of like he's like no I'm like why I know I got it's like you told me that and you called me out on that and I've really thought about that

and I was like why am I opting to know so much I don't know anyway we'll figure that out later But I will say, I feel like if it was just me rearing our children, I think that they would miss. Because you want to do the right thing, right? Yeah, I always want to do the right thing. But like I would be, I lean more towards like, let's shelter. Fear based. Yes, yes. Like I personally.

Danny went on a rant yesterday. And it was, it was. About fear based parents. It was an impassioned one. And she was like, I'm sorry. so sick of all these parents making decisions out of fear. And I actually thought about that this morning. I was like, Danny hates fear. Yeah, I do. You think it's like so lame. Oh, I don't think it's lame. I think it just hold you back from living your life. And like, you're just like an eternal

optimist. You really are. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's crazy. Well, I have this really strong belief that good will always trump evil. And so like, even though I feel, like, I feel a hundred percent confident that I could send my kids to public school and let them be taught all these crazy things, but I do believe that what I will teach them at home and over the weekends will trump what they learn at school. Like, I think if I build that type of relationship with them and they experience, like my biggest prayer every single night when I go into my kids bedroom, every single night, both of them. I say, I pray that I pray that you get to know Jesus at a very young age. Like that's my biggest prayer and ask to God. Because I want them to have these personal convictions

and go through these things themselves. Like, because that's like, and I know that it's not going to be perfect. And I feel like all these parents are so scared of their kids making mistakes or sheltering them and do, which is so, I think it's beautiful because you want to protect your children. Like I understand it. All kids are different. Some kids need to be that way and some kids don't. but like I think that kids I mean we all had to experience like good and evil and then had to choose to live the good yeah but like I do feel like when you shelter them they don't see all of that and then that's whenever they get out of that bubble and they like don't know how to live their lives because the world is an evil place like they need to learn how to fight for good when they're five years old not when they're you know 20 not when they're 15 I don't know and and the thing is to me like I just just also have always had this, like, belief with my children. I've always told them, like, you are going to be different. Like, you're going to be different. You know, you're always going to be different than everybody else. And it's because you're a Christian. Like, sorry, it's going to happen.

And, like, you're going to want to do things differently, maybe listen to different music and you're going to find those personal convictions that work for you that, like, what God is going to speak to you and you're in, like, in his own way and have his own plan for you. But I can't control so much of that. Like, that's really the way that God is going to, and I know that God is going to be faithful. I know my kids are going to get to know Jesus at a very young age. I don't know if they're going to choose to follow him, but they're going to get to know them. And it might be a bad, a bad way of getting to know him. I don't know. But like, yeah. So I don't know. I just, hmm. Gosh, you're so special. I mean it. I'm being serious. Well, earlier you hated me because I would buy you dupes.

I didn't hate you I Where did you get your optimism You know Like I genuinely mean this like I don't think a lot of people Are optimistic like you're optimistic Is it grit

Is you're like oh I'll always like figure it out No I think that I like had this epiphany Probably when I think Francis Chan was speaking When I was like I went to go hear him speak when I was really young And He had this like sermon.

Not the answer I expected. I'm shook. No, he had this sermon that like really spoke to me. I never forget that. Like I remember I was sitting in like the stadium. And it was basically about like it was basically about like are you going to waste your life? Like are you going to live in fear and not try things and not like try to speak about the gospel? And because you're so scared.

And he said the worst feeling in the world is when you get. to your deathbed and you regret your whole life. And I've always just thought about that. And I'm like, I don't want to regret anything. Like, I'd rather go for it and fail and just like feel like, like it's all going to be okay than just be like, stay in this like bubble or whatever and live in fear. I don't know. I mean, I love it.

I'm so thankful for it. Because it's like the opposite. It's what I struggle with the most. But the thing is, too, I feel like in the moments that you fail or the thing, when things don't go right. Like I got an MIC in high school. Okay, which so like that's probably an unideal, an unideal, like a not a good, like if, if you were looking at parenting and you were like, my kid drank alcohol before they were 21 and then got in trouble by the police, you would look at that as a failure as a parent. From a parenting standpoint, like I think of Stella getting

kicked out of school. I think of her drinking when she's 17, 15, 16. And as a parent, you'd be like, I'm a failure. Like my kid got a ticket, got caught by the police at a party where there was drugs, alcohol, marijuana, all the things. Like, that's a failure as a parent, right? That's what we would all think. That's what you would think right now. Yeah, for sure. If Stella got kicked out of a clock, that was probably the best thing that ever happened to me. Ever. Because like that was when I got grounded for like two weeks, but I grounded myself for like two months. And that was whenever everything was stripped away from me that all my achievements in high school, everything I'd worked so hard for, it was all gone. And then I just had to sit with Danny Austin at home and I had to

figure out like, and I joined like Young Life and I was really involved with Young Life. And I feel like that's like one of the times that I experienced God the most. So I know my kids are going to have moments like that. I can't like protect them. And honestly, those moments are like what bring them closer to God sometimes. I pray it's never like so drastic. Like I was just I had a couple of sip of beer to party. It wasn't really that big of deal. You know, I didn't do anything that bad. I was just I was hiding in the back of somebody's truck like or it was actually my car heading in the back. So you pray that your kids are protected and all of that. But like we all, every single person has had struggles. No matter how much your parents have tried to protect you,

we've all had something. Yeah. That hurts. And your parents can't. protect you from everything. No. I mean, the reason I appreciate you so much is I feel like that's the that's the lesson I feel like I'm trying to learn right now. Because I was convinced that like my risk mitigation or my fear could protect me from everything. And I feel like the theme of this year is like, oh, I can't really. You don't really have much control as you think. No, you have zero. Zero. But you want to be you want to be smart. with the risk. Yeah, no. I mean, I'm not like, yeah, but I think that, um, I've always been a very smart risk taker. That's how I consider it myself. Yeah, no. Like I always picture the worst of the

worst. And I'm like, okay. I'm homeless. It's not that bad. It's worse the worst. I'll just go call a buddy and see if I can say with them for a little bit. That's the worst thing that can happen. Okay. Oh, we got. I'm going to try it. It's who happens. Yeah, no. I mean, it's a very, um, it's a very unique mindset that you have. A lot of people want it, but we don't have it. Only you have it. Teach us. Let your kids get candy on Halloween. Just kidding. Don't do whatever you think is best. Please listen to me. I really don't know. I just don't want my kids to think like I don't want them to go crazy. I didn't let them get candy. Do we have fun? Yeah. We didn't have cover anything on the script. We never do. I never even look at them. It's good to have his

backups though because some some some weeks i come and i'm just feeling a little groggy or grumpy or just no you're so grumpy sometimes you're grumpy too you're really grumpy okay well we love you uh make sure you check us out on instagram de-influence podcast and ticot d-influence podcasts and leave us a comment what do you think about celebrating hallibrene sorry we're not celebrating Halloween what do you think about letting your kids go out one time a year put in a costume and going it canning from neighbors. Okay, love you, bye. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.