De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - I Blew Up My Life

Episode Date: February 6, 2025

Hello De-Influencers and happy Thursday! Buckle up buttercups because this is the episode y'all have been waiting for. Dani is sharing the truth behind her social media break.  She shares why she felt like she needed to blow up her life in order to reset. Plus, Dani and Jordan also share what led to this much needed break and re-adjustment, how they're approaching things differently moving forward and the struggles they had to go through to get on the other side.  It's a more serious conversation than we usually have here on De-Influenced, but we're hoping it will help others who have felt the pressure and demand of trying to balance a successful career, family life and personal life. We hope y'all enjoy and maybe even take something away from this episode too. ❤️ Love,  Dani and Jordan  We've worked with some of our favorite brands to get you guys some discounts! Visit jshealthvitamins.com/dani and use code DANIAUSTIN to receive 20% off your order or first subscription order. Use code “DEINFLUENCED” to get 15% off your Primally Pure purchase. That's www.primallypure.com and use code DEINFLUENCED, at checkout for 15% off your order. Visit GoodRanchers.com today, and don’t forget to use my code DANI to claim your free meat and $25 off. Good Ranchers: American Meat Delivered. Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/DEINFLUENCED. Produced by Dear Media

The following podcast is a dear media production. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast. D influence. I like kind of forgot what our intro was. Like I'm glad that you said de influence because I was forgetting. It's the postpartum brain too, which is a real thing. I have a funny story to tell. So we have a producer in the room.

It's a male. And he clearly liked. did something different with his hair and Danny sits down. I feel like he's lost like 10 pounds too. Hold on. So nailed it. He sits down. Um, or Danny sits down.

She's like, oh my gosh. Did you do something of your hair? And he's like, yeah, actually like, you know, I've been growing it out. And she's like, have you been working out? And I go, Danny, that man, there's like this meme on the internet of like, you know, guys are always like one time this grandma told me seven years ago that I looked handsome and I remembered it forever. Like guys just so crave.

create this affirmation. I was like, Danny, that man will remember this forever. That's so funny, because you would assume like men wouldn't, but everybody's like that. No, every man wants like some type of affirmation, I think. But what's so funny about this story, and this is the shadow side of the story. You look very handsome today. No, no, no. Let me tell you something. I have been working out like a fiend for three months and you have never walked in the room and go, babe. I have to take my shirt off and take all my clothes off. And I have to take all my clothes off. And I have to flex in front of you and then I say, babe, do you see this and you still ignore me? Because you literally do it every morning and every night. You do it nonstop. So it's gotten to the

point where I'm like, yes, you look good. Yeah. It's just funny. That was really sweet. I have noticed that like you, you're looking more buff. Yeah, and so is Nathan. Yeah, exactly. Everybody, it's a new year. Yeah, new year and new year. Everyone except for me, really. Actually, did you notice today I'm wearing something outside of sweatpants? Yeah. I'm giving a little Miss Frizzle. But is it Miss Frizzles? That's her name?

Magic School Bus. Oh, I wouldn't remember. Magic School Bus? I never really watched that show. That was like a cornerstone of my youth. You didn't watch it at school? No. That's like a public school, like novelty.

No, never watched it at school. Oh, man, we watched it so much. The only time I remember watching that is maybe in like third grade. You know those big vans that had the TVs in them? Yeah. Like I would watch Dragon Tales, I think, and Magic Schoolposts on the way to like third grade. But I never like got into it after that. Where did you get a big?

Who was picking you up from school? I actually don't remember. Maybe it was like a neighborhood carpool. He was a stranger. He was a stranger. Oh gosh. The other thing about my media diet growing up is we've talked about this, I think, before. And this is no knock on parenting, but I feel like I watched American Pie when I was like nine years old.

That was definitely not okay. Well, I think that I don't really know. We just had like so many DVDs and they were all rated art. And I just remember my parents being totally cool that I watched them. You're like, you're like eight years old. They're like, no, Jordan's cool. Like you watch it. Like I remember being, you remember that movie Night at the Roxbury?

No, that one, no. With Will, anyway, I watched that like, I remember one day I watched that eight times in a row, and I think I was 10 years old. Well, didn't you also fall asleep to Baywatch? That's true. I did. I loved Baywatch when I was four, yes. When I was like four years old, I fell asleep to Baywatch. Every day.

I would like stay up until 10 because I wanted to watch Baywatch. Which is so funny because if y'all know Jordan's parents or like you or your brother, like you're not crazy kids. You're all very like traditional family. And I had another friend who his dad, he was like 16 years old. And his dad wouldn't let him watch Flubber. And that guy went buck wild in college. I didn't even drink until I was 21. He's like, if you dad is 21 years old.

I think the moral of the story is like you really can't control how your kids are going to end up. Wow. That's deep. Especially for today's episode. Yeah. So what is. Speaking of trauma. So what is.

You know, you came in hot. We had a script and Danny said, rip the script and half and said, I'm going to tell people where I've been. Yeah. So I decided, I always kind of assumed I would address it somewhat immediately when I came back online, like a month or so back online. I'm probably not going to address like everything. Like I'll probably leave out like 20%. I bet you won't. No. No, I probably will. Just because, you know, we'll save some of it for the book. book that I might write one day in 10 years. But no. So, yeah, I always figured I would address it.

I, you know, it has been funny. Like, coming back, you know, I feel like people are kind of over it, though. Yeah. They're kind of like, oh, she wasn't at the tart trip. Like, cool. She was just taking a break. So I don't even actually feel like I need to address it because, yeah, I was just taking a break.

And, you know, you don't owe anyone anything. Like, you can take a break. And that's okay. And you don't have to explain yourself or, but, but I just kind of want to, I guess. Yeah.

You know. So. All right. Buckle up. Where do you want to begin? So, okay. I guess I'll begin with 2024.

Okay. 2024 was actually a pretty good year in general. Like, when you look at, everything that we accomplished. I actually wrote down a bunch of the things that we did in 24 just because, you know, two things can be true. Yeah, no, read them all. I actually, I think it's a great exercise and gratitude. Yeah, exactly. So we launched our big-ass luxury scent that I always wanted to do called She's a Lady with my grandma, Goey. We launched our

electric picks collab. Divi launched in 2024, dry shampoo, hydrating shampoo and conditioner, hair mask, AirJ cream. Leaving conditioner. Leaving conditioner. That's the whipped mask. Oh, the leaving, the spray.

The leave and spray. I played in the MLB Celebrity All-Star game. We had crazy guests on like Jess from Love is Blind, Matt and Rachel, RIP, mom talk,

the president of Toyota, Jefferson Bethke, Tay and Kay, Matt and Abby. We had a lot of cool guests. Sorry if I'm leaving some other people out. You spoke at that Chase event?

featured in WWD, which was huge for us. We signed with Dear Media. We re-branded our podcast, spoke at the Forbes 30 Under 30 Summit, made the Forbes top creator list three times in a row, spoke at the Forbes creator event, gave away like basically, you know, $65,000 worth of luxury goods, did so many massive giveaways. Disney, divvy's business. Double divvy's business. Spoke at the J.P. Morgan summit.

Longhorns ranked five in the country. Longhorns ranked five in the country. You went and spoke on my behalf at the University of Texas where I was supposed to speak. I mean, and all while I was pregnant. So I did all those things pregnant, pretty much. You know what? Hmm. Still wasn't enough.

It wasn't that it wasn't enough. I just feel like. in 2023, the end of 20203, 2023, 24, everything just changed with my kids getting older. And I also, you know, I have a team of, I had a team of like seven people. And so at the same time doing all of that,

I also am, like, y'all, I'm so freaking hard on myself. Like the expectations I have on myself are brutal enough. But then also I have always putting pressure on myself to keep my team happy and make sure, like, for some reason, I have this, like, lie in my head or this idea in my head, like, I don't want my team to work for a loser. That's crazy. And so I feel like I have to push myself so that my team is growing with me. And I want them, I'm like, I can't just be like a normal mommy blogger.

Like, I have to be excelling because, like, these people's jobs and careers are in my hands. And I feel responsible for them, too. So in every aspect of my career, whether it's LTCK, podcast, guests, content, crazy giveaways, like I feel like I have to, I can't be normal in all of them. I have to be excelling at, at all of them. And people always asked like all the time, like, how do you do it all? I mean, I don't think that I was even, like, realizing what we were doing. And I wasn't ever, like, appreciative or content with whatever we were accomplishing because there was always something more. And I think it really started to affect my mental health as my kids got older. I think when I didn't have kids or my kids were younger and it was really only

affecting me or our marriage. Like you were a big boy enough to like see what was going on and take care of yourself. But when it starts affecting like your kids, that's whenever my self-esteem started to plummet. So I was like, man, like I'm really not really feeling content in my work. But then I also feel like I'm not the mom that I want to be. So the start of 2024, I think I really had this vision of the mom that I was like set out like I want to become this person and like I could not do it like I could not accomplish it I could not like change I was so stuck in my ways and stuck in like these unhealthy toxic patterns of just like more and more and more and if like something is not hitting the right way like we'll just do more like for another dopamine hit for another whatever

And like it just, and it never was, it never hit. It never hit anymore. And so that's really sad because then you're doing all these amazing things. You're speaking at Forbes. I found out I made the Forbes top creator list. And like when I tell you guys, like my soul was dead inside. Like I had, I did not like, usually in the past I'd call my mom and dad like, I made the list. Oh my gosh. Like freaking out or excited. I felt literally nothing. Like, which so there were all these amazing things happening. And I, felt just bland. And so I knew that was a problem, but I was always meeting with my mentor like once a week. And I'm like, listen, I'm going to have to blow my life up one day. I was like, listen, I'm too extreme of a person to like deconstruct this and pull one layer apart and be like, let's get rid of this and let's do it. I can't do it. Yeah. Okay. I have a question. Yeah. Can we just address, it's so funny because in this whole story arc, the reason I laugh so hard of you being like, I'm going to have to blow my life up is because what I want the audience to picture is like for

probably the past like two years, I've been like, Danny, like, let's just like dial this down or like let's just do this like one small change, two degrees to left. And this girl is stubborn as all be out and like would not, you were stuck. We called it internally the hamster wheel. Yeah. You know, because she was just this little hamster. like, and she's like, I'm so tired. And it's like, okay, we'll get off the wheel. And you're like, I can't.

The wheel's so good. I was like literally stuck on the wheel, like just running as hard as I could. And, um, but yeah, I was like truly dead inside. And I wouldn't call it depression. I wouldn't call it. I didn't, wasn't struggling with anxiety or anything. There were spouts of like depression probably from the hormones like when my first trimester.

But, um, I wouldn't call it any of that. It was just like general disconnect. intent probably. Yeah. Like, um. And what was like, I mean, you know, you're, you're, even if your mind wasn't willing to acknowledge it, I feel like like, you had a lot of health issues in like 2024 too. Yes. So I had, um, this is like a huge factor that I'm actually still dealing with. But I've told you guys, I had the influenza A, influenza B or COVID every month for 10 months out of the 12. 12. Like literally I was always sick. And then I would get over one. and then I'd be healthy for two weeks and then I'd be sick again, like, just like chronically ill. And so I'm

going, I'm working with like an immune specialist right now trying to get to the root of it because it's still happening. When I got, when I had my baby, I had bronchitis. I didn't leave the house. Obviously, you know, I had a newborn. And it just turned into influenza A. Then my kids got it. And then I got my stitis. So literally my first three weeks of being postpartum, I have had chills, aches, and fever like almost every single day. And breastfeeding on top of that. Like, it's just, and this is just kind of like the cycle of my life. Like, I was always sick like this. But then I just wouldn't stop. And I would just do more and more. I take some Advil, do more, more, like. And I mean, I was literally in the hospital, like, in the emergency room from this GERD. I was like throwing up when I was pregnant because I had

this horrible acid reflux. And I'm supposed to be making like a QVC. I'm supposed to be on QVC at like 1 p.m. And it's like 9 a.m. I'm like, give me that drugs. I got to make this flight. Like they're like, Danny, you're not going anywhere. Like I just couldn't stop. And so I just needed this. I needed to honestly like blow up my life. And like I kind of did. Like I literally, I mean, I told my friends and my family and we'll save a lot of the blowup or like honestly, I would call it like a rock bottom. We'll save a lot of that story. We don't have to talk about everything right now. But I eventually told my friends, like I have like seven best girlfriends. And then I told my family and I was like, y'all will not be hearing from me. I will be going bye bye.

I will not have my phone. I will be just off the grid. And yeah, and that's what I did. And I was able to focus a lot on like this inner healing that I needed to do. I know that's such like a, you know, I don't know. Hibby. Hibby word. But like I really needed to do it.

I needed to know like why am I like this? Like why am I so obsessed with accomplishments? Like why do I deep down feel so empty and like I'm never good enough? And like it all comes from like your childhood. Like it always does. And like I have told you, but like I was like the sixth grader that like was running for class president. And like if I didn't get class president like it would make me sick to my stomach. like I would just be obsessed because I didn't feel like Danny alone was ever good enough. Danny needed to be class president. She needed to be captain of the volleyball team. She needed to be because otherwise I wasn't valuable. Like I didn't have anything special for people to actually like about me. I wasn't. I didn't think I was like pretty. I didn't think I was funny. I didn't think I was smart. I didn't think I was like anything. So I always thought, okay, I have to like manufacture this this version of me that people will fall in love with. And for my child.

I think it really worked because I got like a lot of attention and I felt important. I mean like y'all, I was literally class president where like some VP or like every single year from sixth grade till I was a senior. Like not even joking. And I was always the captain of whatever sport I did. I played every single sport. And I hated it. That's the funniest thing. I hated it. I had so much anxiety before these basketball games. Like I weighed like nine, 80 pounds. And these girls are like, like demolishing me. And I, but I couldn't let go because I'm like, well, I'm an athlete and I have to play all the sports and I have to be good at all of them.

And so it just like, and then, you know, you take someone like that that's just not really ever really content with just being Danny. And then you put them on Instagram and you put them on. It's like the perfect drug for me. Like it's like I get the dopamine hits that I always wanted every single day, every single moment of my life until I don't. And then what do I do? Like, and then that's when like the depression kicks in. That's whenever like unhealthy patterns of toxic like relationships online. Not relationship online. Sorry. That sounded like I was like talking to boys online. No, not like that. Toxic friendships like start to happen. And and there's this like there's a psychiatrist. His name is Gabor Mote. And he talks about your authentic self versus like attachment. And your authentic self is like when you like actually love yourself and you're actually like willing to hurt other people or like let other people down because you are so confident in who you are, which is like kind of like what we should strive for. But then there's this attachment side of yourself that like you will completely deny your true self just so you can have attention and love from from other people.

Like if if there is a version of you that people like better that gives you more attention, gives you more laughs, gives you more smiles. Like you're like, screw the real Danny. Like I'm this Danny today. And like that is so me. Like I did everything for the attachment because I wanted to feel important and I wanted to feel valuable. And, you know, it's just so funny because it all really works until you have kids. I mean, when I say it works, it's unfulfilling and it's sad. and like you have to struggle a lot.

But like when you have kids, it was really hard for me because like I don't think that I realized until 2024. Like I have, I always felt this huge responsibility with, I'm going to say three million people because we're about to hit a million on TikTok. With these three million people that follow along with our life. Like I've always felt this like like I genuinely feel this like heart for those people.

I really do. And I feel like God gave me that heart for those people. But I've always known, like, I, there's, like, I don't know, like, I wasn't taking care of myself in order to take care of those people. And then I felt like I prioritized the three million people over the three people now I have in my home, which are my kids. And I feel like my true calling now is to minister to my three little babies in, like, prioritized. that over my three million and like that will come but like my true calling is as a mother and like I've never been able to accept that I've always been like I'm a I'm a girl boss and I don't call myself a girl boss but like in my head I'm like I'm a career woman like I'll never be a stay at home mom like I'll always be working and all this and in 24 like I feel like God started to change my heart in that way like he was like no like you like I want you to be a mom like I want you to like take care of your babies and prioritize your family and like I just went down like kicking and screaming and fighting and but then I feel

like my heart truly changed and like I didn't know I didn't know how to change myself so when it came down to the the the social media break like it was a very um you know me I don't really think about things like I just kind of do it like sometimes like I just like if I think about it too much it stresses me out so like if there's like a task at hand I'm like okay let's do it right now that's kind of how I felt about posting about my social media break. Like I kind of was just like, I'm going to jump into it, dive head first, see what happens. I didn't really have a plan of like what I was when I was going to come back, how much I was going to share what was going on. Like I really didn't have any of that.

But I knew I needed to change my behaviors in my life. And I knew I needed to change my environment. And when I say environment, I didn't mean like, I don't think. always have to change, like literally moving to a new city or, um, you know, like change, move into a new house, whatever it is. I, when I thought of environment, I thought of the people I was around, what I was consuming, what I was doing on a daily basis, what I valued. Like, I just felt like I needed to like throw it all away and like start from scratch. Um, and then when I thought of changing my behaviors, like, I was like, I know that in order to,

changed, like actually changed, like to be a changed woman, I know it's going to take time. Like, I knew it wasn't going to be overnight. And that kills me because everything I ever want to do, I want to fix it instantly. I want there to be an instant fix. And that's probably like a little bit from my childhood. Like, I mean, I love, my parents were amazing because they always like introduced me to my faith, took us to church. But there was a lot of like, pray it away type of behavior in my, like, childhood, which, so I don't know if I'd ever seen, like, real change, like, someone actually change and, like, what it takes to change as a person, like, how much work goes into it. And it was shocking when I started my break because I started to actually sit with myself and, like, see, like,

okay, what do I value? Or what do I like? Or what is my calling or what it? And it was, like, sad. Like, it was sad how, how little I had matured over the past, like, five to 10 years, probably because of how much my work got in the way. Like, I felt like I was 20 years old. Like, I was like, what do I, what do I even value in my life? What do I like about myself? Am I even funny? Am I nice? Am I a good person? Like, and you have to sit with all these things because you don't have work or this dopamine rush to, like, get you going anymore. So you just sit with it. and like stare at yourself. And so, I mean, half of the break was just that was just like sitting in the muck and being like, well, this is what I don't like. This is what I don't want to be.

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And so, and so that really, like, the first thing that I knew I needed a fix was my relationship with God. Like, I knew that that had, I think that I had such a surface level relationship with God because I was so ashamed. Like, I think whenever you're, and it's not even ashamed. I was like, I just knew, it's almost like where you, you know the areas that you need to improve. And so you're just like, okay, God, like, I know, like, we'll talk about it later. So I like, because I know I'm not doing well in this area, then I can't come to you for anything else, you know? And so, um, so I just decided. I was like, I have gone to insane lengths in my life to pursue my career.

Like I have tried to get on an airplane when I'm in the emergency room to go to QVC. Like I have flown private to make this Forbes event spent, you know, tens of thousands of dollars to get on this private plane so they can go speak at this Forbes event and then be home to see. Like I've gone to extreme lengths in my career. Why am I not going to extreme lengths in my faith? And like what what are those, like, how am I going to do that now? Like how am I going to be able to take all that energy that I had in my career and focus it now in in my faith as a moment? mom at home. And so that's what I was honestly trying to figure out. And so I was reading Revelation at the time. It was really heavy. Really heavy. But like I, I just like literally I listen to praise and put on praise and worship music 24-7 and I had it playing in our house. I had it playing on my phone. I couldn't even take a shower without it playing. And I just like soaked myself like in

the Holy Spirit like all the time. time. Like, it was just around all the time. And even the times, like, I didn't, like, know if it was happening or not or what my intention was. Like, I was just always reading scripture or praying and talking to God, 24-7. And I talked to him just like this. I'm like, hey, God, like, I'm struggling. Like, like, I feel like a horrible mom and I feel like this. And my prayers weren't pretty. They weren't, like, these eloquent things. I wasn't always on my, on my knees next to my bed. There were times I was on my knees next to my bed. But, um, but it was just like, like very raw and real. And I, I think for the first time I established this like true

lifeline that I feel like I never had in my faith where I actually feel like without prayer and without reading the word and without talking to God and to like praise and without praise and worship, like I don't feel like I'm going to make it. Like I don't feel like I can survive and be the person and be the mom I want to be without my faith now. And so, I don't know. It was just really, really cool how I felt like because of that break, God was able to come in and like, I don't know, fill me with the Holy Spirit, fill my home, feel my children, fill my marriage in ways that like I probably had always kind of like kung food out of my life for so long. And so, yeah, I mean, overall, I just had to break it all down. Just blow it up my life to become the person I wanted to be in. I decided I'm going to take a break from all the opinions of others. Like, I mean, y'all, I have people that hate my guts.

Like, even my neighbors, I have neighbors that literally take videos of my house. And I'm like, dude, we can see your car in the driveway. Sorry. But like, I, like, people hate me. And like, and that is, like, to take a break from that for a second and to like, like, literally shut it out and to not even know it's going on. was like the healthiest thing I've ever done in my life. Because I don't read my hate and I don't read like anything.

But like, you know, it comes up in conversation or someone will tell me in passing or a friend will mention this or that. And it weighs on you. Like in ways that you don't, I didn't even really realize. And so I just felt like I was very fragile to it, even though I thought, I thought, oh, I've been doing this for 13 years. Like, I'm not. I don't care what people think.

but I do because I'm human and it hurts sometimes. So yeah, I also took a break from people like unintentionally asking me for favors. I feel like I get a lot of even just in that. And I love to help people. I really do. But like I think I put myself in positions a lot of times where I agree to a, I agree to too much because I want to help so many people,

whether it's a photographer or a small business or whatever it is. And I had to take a break from that because I'm like, dude, I can't even help you. I got to help myself first, you know? And not only that, but when I help someone, I want to feel like true, like joy and contentment. And I'm doing it from like an authentic place, not because I'm worried about hurting their feelings. Because that's so much of, of like, sometimes the kindness that people portray in their brand. It's like you're doing it because you're more worried about what people think instead of, is this really coming from a genuine, like giving place. And so, um, so yeah, there were just like a lot of

things that I needed a break from. And I needed to be okay with just like being mom, being a wife, being a mom, focusing on our marriage. Um, and just like really kind of like growing into the person that I really wanted to be, I guess. I just talked for so long. I mean, that was probably 30 minutes. Damn. Didn't plan that this. morning. Did you have an outline? Is that all from the dead? I didn't look at it, but I do have one. I can follow it now. Why did you wake up this morning and decide you were going to share all that? Well, I mean, I don't know. I don't know. How do you feel sharing it? How do I feel sharing that? No, I mean, I don't know if I feel a relief. Maybe I feel like maybe it will relate to someone.

a little scary. Don't know if it made sense. No, it made a lot of sense. Do you think that it, we learned this in marriage counseling. I'm going to get curious, which means I'm going to ask you a lot of questions and really trying to understand how you're feeling.

I guess looking back on the past, you know, I've asked you this a couple times, but I think probably a lot of people feel stuck, you know, in similar bad habits or hamster, wheels like you know my I feel like in in our marriage I was always feeling like I could control the situation and I'd be like oh let's just turn two degrees to the left or two degrees of the right you know and I kind of always saw the catastrophe coming I was like this train's rolling off the tracks and I tried my best to stop it do you think it could have

stopped and gotten healthier in any other way for me personally no is that just a personality No, I think it's undelt with trauma. Like, honestly, I think it was these open wounds that I never actually addressed from like so long ago that until I was able to heal those and focus on those and understand why I was even, why, why do I feel like I constantly have to be going? Like, why do I feel like I constantly have to be achieving and why can't I just sit with Danny being Danny? Why is like that never good enough? And like until I address those things, no, I don't think so. And I don't think I would have known to address those things until I just. Blown up.

Does it make you look back on, you know, the years that you've been sprinting in any different type of way? Like, do you look back on them and are still grateful because that was part of your story? Or do you look back and say, hey, wow, like that was so unhealthy? No, I don't even look back at 2024 and wish I did anything differently because I have such clarity now. And I am very aware that the times that I've made the biggest mistakes in my life is like where I've evolved and learned the most. And like I know that I have to go through hard times to be stronger. So but no, I don't even look at 2023, 22, 22, 2021. Like I look at everything so positively.

Like I really do and probably more positive than you. You're probably like, oh my gosh, 2024 was such a hard year. She was sick all the time. And I don't look at it like that. Like it was hard and it was challenging. But, and I definitely was discontent. But I'm just like so thankful for all of that. Like I'm so thankful for a rock bottom.

Like it's gotten me to a place where I'm so desperate for this relationship with God. And I'm so desperate to not continue like the same old patterns. Like I'm literally desperate. desperate. And I don't think that people really change without this gift of desperation. Like, I don't think that they actually cleave to like what they need to cleave to until they've lost it all. And I wouldn't, that sounds like a little extreme because I didn't lose it all. But, but like, you know, um, we almost did. I mean, people were like, I'm like, I took a break on on Black Friday and Christmas. And they were like, okay, we know she's being serious now. And,

And that's just like a silly thing. But like, you know, yeah, I mean, one day maybe I'll share more about my rock bottom. But like, it was bad. It was bad. And it was bad for us too. Yeah, it was bad for our marriage. Like I think that it was, you know, I don't want to say that we almost lost it all in terms of our marriage. But, I mean, it was very bad.

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it took me a second. But for like this moment of clarity now, I have no regrets about 2023 or 24 or any of the other years of health prior because now it's just part of our story. Yeah. It's not something I have to look at as like regret or loss. It's like, oh, that led us to this like moment of reprieve and redemption. Yeah. Where it's like, I mean, I think that this year in our marriage is probably going to be healthier than ever. Yeah. And which is wild. You know, and it was, it was hard. Like we, even as a married couple, we had to work through. And just so you go, there was no like infidelity or anything like that. Like, that's not what we're talking about. But in our marriage, like, we had to work through a lot because all of a sudden,

I, I'm not consumed with work 24-7. I can't throw them. myself into when I'm not feeling good enough, I can't throw myself into a video to post to see if it does well, to feel better about myself. And so I'm sitting with a lot of emotions. And people didn't like that. They didn't like that about me. And it was hard. And I didn't know what to do with the emotions. I had a lot of them. And I had a lot of like built up resentment and anger that I finally had to sit with and be like, I'm angry at this person or this. And I have to deal with. my emotions and I can't just shove it under the rug anymore. And most importantly, not even just for me in our marriage, but for my kids. Like my kids need to know that it's okay to have feelings and it's okay

to, um, but like they need to know how to deal with them. And they need to know like, hey, mommy is not always right. Mommy has to apologize sometimes too. And, and mommy's working on herself. And I was just so sick of like talking about the mom I wanted to be or the faith I wanted to have. And I just wanted to start living it. Like I was. want my daughter to see mommy in the Bible and in the word every morning. I don't want to be like, we read the Bible. I want her to just be like, oh, I observe that my mom does that. And I don't want to be like, when we are sick, we pray. Like, I just want, when she comes over and steps her toe, I want, we immediately just start praying to Jesus. Like, we don't talk about it. We just do it.

Like, our faith is a lifestyle and we live it out. We don't talk about it anymore. And I, that was something I was really frustrated with my childhood, was just always talking. about my faith and like what does it actually look like to live live it out and and that's what I'm challenging myself with the most right now and like why why not to put my kids into the daycare when I go to church why can't they come and praise and worship with me for 30 minutes first like why am I following all these rules like I want them to see what it looks like to praise and worship and like to praise God like they've never seen that before and and why is you know this is a just stupid example but like Stella knows all the words to Taylor Swift,

but she doesn't know the words to my favorite praise of worship songs. Like those are all little things, but they're just, they're just little examples that you can see that maybe we're not creating the fruit in our home that we, that I want. And sorry, when I said we, but me,

you know, because I'm trying to work on myself and not other people. That's another thing that I learned is like, I got to focus on keeping my side of the street clean. And you can't control anybody else around you. just focus on you and everything else will happen around you. But so, so yeah, I think I just decided to fight for my children. Like my children are everything and I've decided to to fight for them. What are some other like, you know, the biggest decisions you've made around your life

and your business that have been most helpful in like protecting this piece? I do feel like I've shared a lot of them, but with my with my business in particular, the way that I came back online, I know it kind of pissed a lot of people off. Why is that again? Because I wasn't doing stories as much. And I don't know. Here's the thing about me. Like, I hate a plan. I hate plans. And I hate saying I'm going to do like when I come back online, I'm going to do this, this, or in two months, then I'll start doing this. Like, I hate that. Like, I so like to go with the flow. to see where the wind blows me. And I'm like, if I feel like posting something that day, like, I want to be able to do it. As long as what I've learned is, there are priorities. Like, there are, and I've always said there are non-negotiables.

And, but I don't know if I realize there, I have so many non-negotiables. Like, I have a lot of things that I need on a daily basis to be healthy, like a lot. It's hours of, like, I. I need to be able to wake up with my kids, pack their lunch, do my quiet time. I need to be able to work out. I need to be able to pick up my kids from school, whatever it is. Like, it's not just like one thing. It's like hours.

And all of those things, I do therapy now. I do marriage counseling. I do all these things that are requirements just for me to be the basic level functioning Danny that I need to be. Like, just basic. And those things like can not be tampered with. And in the past, those things were the first to go. And I still did them. But they were like, oh, got to do this video. Therapy's not going to make sense this week. Okay. Um, got to do this.

Okay, I'm not going to take my kids to school. Okay, got to do this. Okay, then Stella can do gymnastics on our own, whatever it was. And they were just so wishy-washy. And now I'm learning the, like, importance of them and like of the consistency of them. And so what I've learned is those are the boulders in my week and they can't move, but then work can flow and can make sense around those things. And unfortunately, now with these massive boulders, I can't do as much. Like, and maybe it's not unfortunately. It's probably a good thing because what I've learned is too much of that, too much of anything without, you know, balance, you start to resent it. And like, you start to resent these beautiful blessings in your life. Like,

these giveaways or this, you know, these videos that I get to film that should be so fun and funny and uplifting. And you start to hate them. And not because you like actually hate them. You're just not fulfilled in other ways. I, you know, I always refer to my wellness wheel now. And like there's so many parts of your wellness. It's spiritual. It's physical. It's intellectual. Like I need to be reading. Like I, instead of last night, instead of being on my, you know, whatever I was doing. Now I puzzle every night, which is like just a very calming, peaceful activity. Or I, I read. And like, and I'm not just reading to read. Like, I'm reading to fill myself up, you know. And, um, and so all these different like aspects of my wellness feel, like I literally

have one next to my bed and I look at it. I'm like, did I feel all the women? You know, did I, what's, what was lacking today? Did I, you know, take care of myself intellectually? Did I talk to my friends? Was I social? Does I maintaining my relationships? Was I this when you're working 24-7, all of that goes out the window. It's not prioritized. And so, yeah, you have to be, the hardest thing for me was being okay with not being like 100% on my A game when it came to my career. Like that was so, I don't know why, that was so painful for me. Like, but I think it's because I truly felt like that's what made me important. Like that's what made me meek and loved and special.

And it was like it's sad, you know. Mm-hmm. Don't you feel like the more, because I think that we've both been learning to like let go of that, you know, like career-driven identity. Don't you feel like the more that you've let go, like the more that it's not like Danny's doing all these wins? It's kind of like God's been able to kind of step in and almost like. you know, bless you professionally still too. Like I thought the most ironic thing was when you were on a break, you know, you always assumed, oh my gosh, everyone's going to hate me. Like, I'm gone. I'm, I'm irrelevant or whatever. And, you know, while you were gone, Divi's serum won WWD's like 2025

products of the year. Oprah's editors, like chose it as the best overall product. You got nominated for EY's entrepreneur of the year, which is like a huge deal. And to me, as just kind of like watching from the sideline, for me, the lesson felt like, man, both of us, but like you had always felt like I have to. And if I let up and if I don't do this, like, I'm not earning my keep. And it really kind of almost allowed for you to take a step back and for God to be like, hey, I got you. Like this all isn't you. You've thought it was and I let you think it was for a long time, but like, I've got you. Have you felt that at all since you've stepped back? Yeah. I mean, I'm very, God has been so good, so good to me, even in the prior years.

Like, he just, it's like, it's almost like humorous, like how he, like, um, it was so hard going through what we've been through the past couple months, but like it never was too much. It was like, and then the times whenever I'd be like, uh, struggling the most, like he always throws you a little bone like that. Like, and, um, but honestly like, and I, I'm just so, like, I'm so grateful and I'm so excited about all of those things and like, and I feel like now I can see that they're God's blessings like instead of just being like, oh, we did it or whatever. Um, but yeah, I, it's like so funny because I'm like, God, I wasn't even worried about that.

Like, I wasn't even worried about Divi right now. Like, you know, or. I know. And I guess I do have this question too. Like, why even come back to social media at all? Like, you were in such a healthy place and there was kind of this moment where you were like, you know, and I never thought I would hear you say this. You were like, nah, I'm okay without it. Yeah.

And you really were. You were so content. And I was content that you were content, right? And you were an amazing mom. And I just saw this, like, new health in our home. I feel like you had that from a very healthy place, you were kind of like, well, you know what? Like I do realize and recognize with my therapist. Like I do want to work.

And so like, I guess my question is like, why? Why come back at all? Yeah. I mean, I did, I did miss it. And I think there were times I was like, I miss it, but I could, if I really needed to, I could find other. Like if I couldn't figure out a healthy balance with it, I could find other ways to fill my cup. And I honestly still feel that way about social media.

Like if I if I can't figure it out and do it in a way that makes sense for me and it and I start to lose myself again and I'm not able to be the mom I want to be or the wife I want to be, then I think I could find other ways to serve people and to like make people laugh and to be creative. But but I love I love this way of being it. Like this is like what I've, this is my dream job. And I'm, I'm like, I love it. And I've loved it. And I've loved it since I started. I got lost in it. I think because I loved it so much, too much. I think I idolized it. Um, and it became everything for me. But I still want to be a part of it in like a healthy way. And I really, um, like I'm just, I feel very grateful for the people in my audience that. And I'm just, have like stuck around and who are still like I I noticed that they're actual people you know they don't just feel like members to me and it feels very it feels very serious this role I have

but at the same time it doesn't because I'm not a serious person but like um it feels like I don't understand why God gave me this platform but I know it was God given because like I know just like there's no way like why me like it has to be from from God And so I know that there's ways that I can use it in really positive ways to impact people. And like, I don't want to waste that. But I just need to figure out a way to do it right. I think there's a large part of your, or a subset of your audience that is like other creators. Okay.

And what you and I both know about this space is like everyone's kind of looking at one another and being like, oh, well, she's killing it and look at the pace that she's running. and so I need to run at that pace too. And what's been really interesting for me is like when I put my consumer of social media hat on is I think audiences are now kind of waking up and realizing that the pace that most of these creators are running is like inhumane, right? And I think they're like, hey, it's not admirable anymore. It's kind of like, it's like, ugh, like this is so much.

Like you're in the hospital. Like you're running yourself ragged and like you think it's for us, but like you can't get off. And so my question is like in all of these lessons that you learned, what would you tell the other creators that follow you that are like looking to what Danny Austin's doing to kind of try and figure out how to like model their career off of it too. It's so funny because I get stuck in the same thought pattern. I'm like, man, these girls are doing so much like they're killing it. But like they're probably struggling too. They're struggling. That's why I brought up the question is because I think the original reason we

created this podcast was kind of like de-influence what goes on behind the scenes. And I think what's really cool about your story is that I think that there's a lot of people, and this isn't like egotistical or, you know, propping you up or anything. I think there's a lot of people who looked at Danny Austin's career and were like, I want that. Right. And what you're being vulnerable about saying is like, hey, listen, like, I got it and here were the challenges and the shadow sides of it. Right. And so it's a cool opportunity almost for you to speak to them. all these people who are feeling like they aren't enough. Yeah.

And are feeling like they need to keep up with X, Y, Z, other creator or this demographic. Mm-hmm. Like, what would you say to them now? Yeah. I mean, it is obvious we live in, we live in like a pretty sick culture where we are all, not all, not all, but like, majority of us are prioritizing this, like, false reality. That's, it's not really real. It's not real. And I've been guilty of the same thing.

And it's like, it's kind of like making us all mentally ill, honestly. And like the anxiety and the self-esteem issues we have. Are you talking about two creators? Yeah, maybe two creators. I'm sure people that aren't creators probably feel this in a different sense in their world somehow. I mean, I think people that aren't creators that are just still posting, like, pictures on Facebook or their lives. Yeah, true.

When I was on MySpace, I was doing the same thing. So I think we kind of all, not all of us, but a lot of people probably feel similar. But, like, I think just acknowledging that first and knowing, like, actually what everybody else is doing is unhealthy. And, like, we are kind of all sick together, like, acknowledging that. And then acknowledging, like, it's okay to do things differently. And then, you know, for me, like literally what I did is I wrote down and I was like, what is like the type of mom or the type of person like I want to be? And I kind of like assessed

where I was at and where I wanted to be. And like this dream version of myself that was so actually attainable. Like it actually was. If I could just let go of of this pride that I had about this is what makes Danny important. And this is what me like. It was. Like, it was. was all actually what I wanted was so much less than what I was what I was like trying to achieve like and um and so I just I literally wrote it all down and then I was like okay this is who I am this is who I want to be how am I going to get there and that was the hard part because what I realized was was the way I was going to get there did not work with where I was at yeah and there was honestly no way Like, maybe for you who could destruct things so perfectly, you could take one brick, brick down, and the next brick down, and then chisel away here and chisel away.

I was like, no, I was like, I'm going to blow this shit up, like, and I'm going to be left with like the fire and the flames. And I'm like, this is exactly what I wanted. I wanted this to happen. No, not really. But like, I kind of did. And then, so, like, I'm not telling every creator to blow. their life up. But I think you would be shocked at how much you're going to learn about yourself or the feelings that you're going to feel or what you're going to have to sit with or stare at

when you just stop. I mean, I'm just going to be honest with you guys. Like, I lost millions of dollars in November, whether it was on the Divi side or the Danny Austin side. And I would do it all over again. I literally would do it all over again 10 times over. I did not care what's sober because what is all of that. First of all, I don't even really, I'm like, I don't even really want anything. But like, it's not even about them. It's the fact that I was achieving that made me feel something. But like, um, like all of that is is worth nothing. If I can't be the, the person I want to be. Like, how am I even going to use and steward those resources that God is blessing us with if I can't even have the clarity to know where they're supposed to be? Like,

it's, it's messed up. And so, so yeah, I would just say to other creators is like, write down who you want to be and then meet with a therapist, meet with your husband, meet with a friend and be like, all right, how am I going to get there and just start taking things away that aren't fulfilling and aren't life giving in your life. And taking the things away is the hardest part. That was the hardest part for me. Building it back was the fun part, honestly. Looking at my day and being like, all right, what book am I going to read? What prayer am I going to? I was saying. I was like, oh, this is actually kind of fun. Like, I put together my own praise and worship playlist.

So I did, you know, I built my own, like, strict routine with my kids. I took my kids, like, to all these amazing fun things. I got, like, really, like, I got really into scheduling, you know, like, scheduling, like, like, like, everything, like Jordan likes to schedule. Because usually I'm more spontaneous. And, like, now I'm like. I'm like, from, from one to two on Monday, I'll be with Stella. Then two to three, I'll be with Stratton.

And then four to five, I'll be with Summit. Like, you know, and like, usually I'd just be like, whatever. We'll just see you when, I'll see you when I see you, you know. But just that intentionality in my life has, like, made it a huge difference, especially with my kids. Yeah. When, um, this is kind of like relevant, but when you blew up your life, it, uh, kind of blew up mine too.

And so, um, I'm like, oh, it did? Yeah. And so, um, sorry. Sorry about that. When my life was blown up. I know that you don't think I do this, but this is the only thing that actually got me through that season. And feeling any type of hope. But for a pretty consistent three weeks, like I would wake up and I would journal and I would try and find three things I was grateful for.

No, you did. I swear to you. I swear to you. I know that you never give me credit for this. Well, it's funny because I make him do this every day now. I make him tell me three things you. You never told me that. Yeah.

So I did when, yeah, and so I did it for the month of pretty much December. And it was so funny, what I learned when I was doing that is it never was the big things I was grateful for. Because a lot of big things were still happening. Like we hired really good executives at Divi. Like a lot of big things were happening. For about seven days straight, the things I was grateful for were being able to work out. My first cup of coffee, because it gives you that like first initial buzz. We love a little good bus. And it was something about our kids. And I was like, oh my gosh. Like it was very, looking back, I didn't see it this way. I saw it as like, Danny blew up our lives. Right. I was like, why did you do that?

Like, I hate her. Jenny, I must die. A little bit. Yeah. But, you know, I was like, oh, it's so much simpler. Right? It's like what, it doesn't take much. It doesn't take much.

And it was never. It's ever like my yacht. And I think what I'm going through right now is, is trying to reconcile if we had that laundry list of things that we had accomplished in 2024. And at the end of the day, like, to be happy, I need my family and my kids. I need to be able to like do something active. And I need a cup of coffee. Like, I think where I'm at is like, why strive? And I'm in a process where God's reconciling my ambition to be like, okay, here's the goodness of it.

I think you're ahead of me and understanding that it's not about us and it's not about our wealth or our family or our kids' wealth. It's more about like stewardship. I'm just not like my mind gets it, but my heart's not fully there. But I think that that's where it seems like you're getting. It's more about stewardship. Yeah, stewardship. And at a certain point, you can't just always be healing internally. and looking inside, like at a certain point, you have to start shifting and serving.

Like, that's going to actually keep the wheel turning and it keeps the contentment and your relationship close to God because at a certain point, it's like, okay, like, you know, you've done enough with yourself. And yes, you need to take that break and you need to do and need to focus on yourself and you need to be selfish. And like, I skipped every single event with my friends. Like, I skipped everything. I was not present with any of my friends. I wasn't even texting people back. That works for a season. That's not going to work forever. Like, and so, um, so yeah, that's where I'm, I'm kind of getting to getting at is like, all right, now how do I take all this goodness? How do I take this message? How do I take what God has

like taught me? And how do I use it ultimately to serve him and to glorify him? Um, because yeah, then it's all for not. So this is a good wrap up question. But I just want to touch on the gratitude thing. My gratitude or your gratitude? I want to focus on that just for a second because I would say if I did have a regret of 2024 and if there's anyone that's listening to this podcast, if there's anything you take away from it, this one little thing could actually change your life and it's doing what Jordan did.

And you can even start like a text group with like some of your girlfriends or like, why you laughing. Oh, I was just laughing because I did it on chat chisbt and I was just remembering this time that I felt like chat chag chb t became sentient and asked if it could pray for me. And I was like, okay, I don't like this. Sorry. Nady don't do it with chat chvety. No, honestly, it's super beneficial though because now I can go and like ask them like it's possible that it remembers all my struggles. It's possible it could become the Antichrist. So like we'll talk about it later. but um so like i don't know it's probably better to do it with other beings that have souls um like a friend or a husband or maybe like your mom or something um but reflecting every day on three things

that you're grateful for i know it sounds so like you know um i don't know what's the fru-frew-frew like so fru-frew but it is um i wish so bad that i would have done that in 2024 like because there is so much to be grateful for and you will realize, like we said, how little it actually takes, like, to actually be content and to, like, be, to, like, I don't know, have what you really need. And it's, it's not much. And it's like, man, I wish I would have had that perspective because there was so many, so many amazing things. Instead of focusing on what it's going to do is it's going to shift your perspective on life. Like, it's going to help you deal with resentments. Like, you're going to realize how stupid

some of the things that you're sitting on. Now, some of them are very. But you're going to, like, reflect and be like, wow, like, this is so stupid that I was caught up on that. Like, when you actually sit back and see, like, what you're grateful for. So if there's anything you take from this, like, just try it. Try it for like a week. It's amazing. And like Jordan said, it doesn't have to be, like, these big, massive things. Like, it can be like, man, I got the best pair of socks. And like, when I put these socks on with these shoes, like, my feet feel so good. And, like, I'm so grateful that when I walk around, my feet feel. good. It probably honestly will be small things like that. It's little things like that that you're

just like, wow, that was awesome. And so the funniest thing when you went through your hours upon hours of therapy is the most frustrating thing was that Danny had mastered gratitude so much that anytime I was sad or angry about something, she'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are three things you're grateful for? And I'm like, I'm mad at you because you blew up our lives. And she's like, well, whoa, whoa, we're not talking about that. What are three things you're grateful for? And I would like, infuriate me to no end. It honestly kind of still does. I'm still triggered. But it's like, I now, I never used it like that. I usually just say three things you're grateful for like in the morning. No, no, no, no. But what, what I think that you did was you forced me because you had kind

of like, you had seen the well, right? And you wanted to lead me to the well. And you were like, you forced me to all these things. I wanted you to stop chasing things that weren't. That was my thing. Or thinking that my circumstances, oh, if you're, you're angry at this thing, if this is corrected, you're going to be happy. Like, you wanted me to, like, realize that it has nothing to do with that thing. That what is in your control is, like, what you're grateful for. Yes, because so many times, like, we're taking calls past five o'clock. Or we're feeling like, we have to fix this issue, like, instantly. Or we're focused on, oh, my gosh, this person said this about me. And instead of looking up and being like we live five minutes from like one at like a beautiful lake that we can walk and like accomplish so much healing around and like that's like such we live in such a cool place why do we feel like we always have to be like looking at houses online like we should be so thankful like we're so this is amazing and like we have like our kids are healthy like our kids are healthy like that's so that's huge that's massive and like it should bring us to our knees in gratitude and thankfulness every day

not like what's next or why is Stella acting this way or why is why doesn't she want to play soccer like I don't know those I never thought I would say this like you would ask me November December last year I was like it's over life is torpedoed babe I feel like we are so back are we back I feel like we are so back right now like our marriage like everything might be so back it's like not I do want to end on this question. So you kind of started your story by saying that you ever since sixth grade or whatever, you know, is always about like Danny Austin is not valuable without these things, right? What do you think that God is saying about you now? Or what do you hear God saying about you now?

Um, so deep. I'm a daughter of the high king. No. But I think it's funny that I was reading Revelation while this was all going down because it's, if you haven't read it, you got to read it. It's wild. It's like, it's a wild book. But like something that I've really been able to believe in like capture lately is that like I, like God is already won and because I believe in God and because I am a daughter of like Christ, I have already won too. So I don't know. Like I just, I feel like a winner. I feel like a winner. And like it puts everything also into perspective because I'm like thankful for that. But also I feel like I have this purpose and this message. And, um, um,

Like I want other people to win too and I want them to see that as well. And so, so yeah, I don't know. I feel like God's love me like, hey, like we already won. Like, calm down. And chill out. Like chill out. I'll take that. That's a great answer.

Profound. Okay. So we will end this podcast with saying three things. Like I literally. I feel like this is like so vulnerable. No, it's not. It needs to become. Okay.

Well, it will become less. Okay. I make Stella do it. What did she say less tonight? She says it's like so funny. Oh my God, I can't remember. It was like so silly. Oh, in bed?

Yeah, what did she say? You walked up and we were talking about it. Yeah, she said, um, it was like swimming or something or like? Okay. No. Yeah, it was, I don't know. Anyway, okay. So, um, yes, what are three things that you're grateful for?

Um, I'm honestly grateful for this podcast. I feel like it's, um, it felt like we had to kind of show up and there was just like this whole season that we went through. And it was like really hard to kind of like just put that to the side in our private lives. It feels good that it's kind of like out and talked about. And I'm really proud of you for this podcast. Two, I would say I am just really thankful. This podcast reminded me of just like the complete ownership that you've taken over like motherhood with our children.

And it's like, it's hard for people to understand and know unless you, like, lived in this home with us. But it's like, insane. I mean, it's like the mother is always going to be the heart of the home. And I just, I believe that to my core because I tried to be that, you know. And I couldn't do it. And I'm just really proud of you. And I'm grateful for that. And then three is, we get to leave and not work after this and like, go look at some houses. We're just like, we're content in our houses. then we're like, we're going to like an house. No, those are great.

But only to fill it with mini-ninos. That's honestly our biggest issues. We want. We're out of bedrooms. We want more kids. And we have no room. So, okay. So mine are not as deep.

It's okay. Okay. I'm grateful for my brown cowboy boots that I'm going to wear today because literally, like, no shoes fit me right now. Also, no clothes fit me. And I found this outfit in my closet too. So I'm grateful for this outfit. This is the first time I've not worn sweats.

Have you noticed that? Oh, yeah, yeah. No, it looks great. It's kind of sweats, but they're like, it's like a skirt. And then I'm grateful for, oh, Theo Vaughn podcast right now on YouTube. Oh, my God. He's so funny. I know.

You're, like, obsessed with him. It's so funny. He's, like, been around for forever. And you're just like, have you heard of this Theo Vaughan? guy and it's like yeah everyone has he is so funny like his humor is like he's quick yeah he's very smart oh my gosh i can't even repeat some things he says though um and um i'm also thankful for my um spectra hospital grade pump pump breast pump yeah i feel like it really gets cleans it out cleans the sound is is a very strange form of a smr let me tell you i got it

From my, Slurp. My hospital had, like, I got it through insurance, which was like, cool. I was like, oh, this stuff works, insurance? Oh, you'll do something? You'll actually do something that helps me. Gen Z will love that comment. Yeah, they sent it like two days after I got home and I was like,

oh my gosh, this is the best thing insurance has ever done for me that I'm aware of. So, so yeah. Cool. You know what? comment three things you're grateful for below. I thought she was going to say, let's please end in a prayer. No, I'm not, no. Comment three things below, you're grateful for too.

We've got to start doing that more. I'm serious. They're like, she's growth hacking her podcast with this gratitude bullcrap she made up. Okay, seriously. Okay. I love you guys and we'll talk to later. Bye. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services.

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