De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - "I Wanna Do You In The Car"
Episode Date: March 21, 2025Happy Thursday! Despite our silly title, it's been a sobering week. First and foremost, our thoughts and prayers go out to the pilot who tragically passed away in the plane crash you'll hear us men...tion on this podcast, as well as his family and friends. We share more details about how Jordan was supposed to be on that plane and how he's coping. Plus, we talk about some more lighthearted topics like Dani's love for daylight savings and Jordan being kookie? Forgive us, we're a little shell shocked and delirious this episode. AND we're finally sharing what happened in the suburbs... We scored some great deals with a few of our favorite brands for our listeners: Getting our baby dressed has never been easier than with Magnetic Me - trust us, you need to order these for your baby! Go to MagneticMe.com today - new customers will get 15% off their first order!! Today, Beekeeper's Naturals is offering you an exclusive offer: Go to beekeepersnaturals.com/DANI or enter code DANI to get 20% off your order! Visit premierprotein.com and go to Where to Buy to find a retailer near you or to find where to buy online. Visit JustThriveHealth.com and use code DANI for 20% off your first 90 day bottle. That's like getting a month for free! Get 50% off your first box of fresh, healthy food at The FarmersDog.com/dani. Plus, you get FREE shipping! Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/DEINFLUENCED. Make sure you’re subscribed to our official channel on YouTube, @deinfluencedpodcast, and follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your De-Influenced fix! Stay connected with us on Instagram and TikTok @deinfluencedpodcast, and as always thank you for being a part of this journey. XOXO, Dani and Jordan
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Deinfluenced.
We're happy to be here.
We're happy to be here.
It's crazy.
We've had a wild week.
Lots to be grateful for, thankful for Jordan.
I almost died yesterday.
Yeah.
Do you want to tell the story of what happened?
Yeah, I feel like a lot of people are asking questions.
So there was obviously a plane crash.
Yeah, there was a,
I'll just preface by saying there was a plane crash and the pilot passed away.
I did not know the pilot, but prayers for his family.
I don't know who his family is or if he has a family.
I don't know any details.
But yeah, there was a plane crash on the news yesterday.
And it was a small plane out of Mesquite Airport.
And so I've only flown on this plane about five times.
Usually it's for work if we have to do like a same day trip.
Well, but we've flown out of that airport.
Yeah.
So usually, so there's a small plane that's called a dry lease.
So basically an owner, usually someone, a businessman or something, owns this plane and he leases it out to other people who need to use it when he's not using it.
Right.
So it's a small airport in Mesquite.
several people have been on this plane.
It's a, I think it's a citation plane,
which is like the kind of F-150 of planes.
Like it's a super reliable plane.
Like a Cessna.
No, Cessna's are not reliable.
Oh.
Yeah, those are the small ones.
Oh, didn't we take a Cessna last time?
No.
Oh, okay, sorry.
And so it's like a reliable, pretty much private plane.
And so it's really helpful to us if I have to go with a group of the Divi
team to somewhere we have to go with a group to do a same-day business trip. So I've done it like
five times and we always leave out of an airport in outside of Dallas, Musquite. And we needed to go up
to Pennsylvania, which is where QVC is located for a meeting. It was me, our CFO at Divi,
our head of people, and then your mom and her team. There's a cool project. I'll talk. I'll
talk about a different time that we're working on potentially with QBC and Divi and
everyone. So we had had this trip planned and when I was planning it for some reason I was like,
I'm going to fly out of Addison. Like I never, which is another small airport, never fly out
of Addison, never have flown out of Addison. Had to pay extra. But just my gut was like,
I feel like we should fly out of Addison. It was also slightly more convenient for everyone else
involved. It's less convenient for me, almost to the point where I was like maybe I'll drive to
Mesquite, hop on the plane there, park my car there, and then fly to Addison and pick them up.
And that was a very serious thought. And yesterday morning, we all meet at the Addison Airport.
And I was texting the pilot the night before. And the plan was he was going to take off from
Mesquite and then Landon, Addison, pick us up. And then we were going to go to Pennsylvania and come back.
and around I think I texted him that morning and I just said,
hey, on our way to Addison, see you soon.
And the night before he had said,
looking forward to flying with you.
And around 7.45, we all get there.
I tell the Addison airport concierge,
I said, hey, just let us know when the plane's here.
8 o'clock rolls around.
Hey, is the plane here?
No.
The plane is showing that it's hovering over Addison.
805 rolls around 810 hey is the plane here no still hovering and then i got um a text from my friend
who sent me a tweet that a plane had crashed taking off in mesquite um and it very quickly dawned on me
that that was our plane and um there were a couple people in our group mostly on your mom's team
who were already pretty worried about getting on the plane um i think when you fly like
on smaller planes, even if it is private, you know, people get scared about that instead of
commercial. And so, yeah, we basically found out that the plane had crashed. And then we all
kind of had to go about our day a little bit. And it was just, I think we were all in shock.
And then slowly we all started opening up about what had happened, kind of realizing that, you know,
all six of us, realistically, if I would have sent one logistical detail to,
different, either in my life or for the life of the other six people, we would all been on that plane.
And I think we all started opening up about it. I told your mom and your mom was like, oh my gosh,
I had this terrible nightmare last night. And I woke up at 3.30 and just started praying.
And she said that she had felt like there were going to be technical issues with the plane or something
with the plane and she just had this really bad spirit.
And then I called you and I said, hey, Danny, I just want you to know, like, I'm okay.
You know, there was a plane crash in Mesquite.
That was our plane.
You know, we're flying out of Addison because you didn't even know where I was flying out of
like for all you knew I was still flying out of Mesquite.
I would have thought you were flying out of Mesquite.
Yeah, and you would have, if I wouldn't have talked to you, you would have thought I was
on that plane with your mom.
Oh, 100%.
Everybody.
And so I told you and you were like, Jordan, I,
felt this spirit at like, you didn't say 3.30, but like four in the morning, I woke up and I just
had this horrible nightmare. And your nightmare was so bad. You still haven't told me what the nightmare was.
And then your mom called your dad. And your dad even was like, I had a horrible dream last night
about this plane crash. And then someone on your mom's team said that her dad had begged her
for multiple days not to get on the plane. And then what's crazy is that today, this was like,
all over the Dallas news about this plane crash and they interviewed a local pastor in Mesquite
and this pastor three days before.
Because it crashed close to this church.
Yeah, it's close to this church.
But this pastor of this church in Mesquite was interviewed on the news and he said three days
ago I had a very vivid nightmare and I usually don't remember my dreams about a plane crash.
And I don't think, I don't remember if he said it was like a plane crash at his church or what, but, um, no, he did. He said that in, in the backyard essentially of his church, he had a dream. He said that when he heard there was a lot of explosion, he knew immediately it was, it was a plane.
Yeah. And so, yeah, yesterday was just really, it was very weird because I just think about all the things in my mind, the small little,
details that led us to the decision to not fly out of Mesquite and be on that plane.
And well, that plane, even if it, because we, nobody knows what happened. And they said it'll
take two years to the full. So I, I talked to someone who works at the airport today. And
unfortunately, the guy I talked to was really close with the pilot. And so he was, it's outside of
Heath, Texas. And so I think a lot of.
people in Heath use this plane a lot. They've flown to Super Bowls. They've flown to, you know,
Florida on this plane. And so when people found out, because Miles lives in Heath, and so when
people found out that one of Miles's friend was supposed to be on the plane, it kind of got around.
And it was crazy because my mom didn't know about the situation. She had heard about it from one of
her friends. And then I guess last night called you, you know, crying.
It just hit everyone of like, oh my gosh, we were so close to just an absolute catastrophe.
But if it was something that was wrong with the plane, even if it would have got to Addison,
y'all still would have gotten on that same plane.
Yeah.
So it could have the, you know, if it was an engine failure or something like that,
it didn't have to happen right when the takeoff happened.
It could have, we could have relented.
We could have all been on the plane in Addison and take it.
off. And so I think we're all just very, obviously, extremely sad for the pilot on board.
And he was a very decorated pilot, too. Yeah. 20 years flying experience. And so usually I think it's,
no one knows whether it was pilot error, like if he had a heart attack. If,
do you know how old he was? I don't know. Yeah, we don't know anything.
No one knows. But it will, there will be a preliminary report that comes out in two or three
which should show some details, but the full report of what happened with the plane won't be for like two years.
Wow.
And so it's crazy.
I was, I, yeah, I don't really like know how to feel, to be honest.
Like I think I was like kind of in just sort of adrenaline mode yesterday.
Because then you still had to do the whole meeting and go through with everything.
You'd pull all these people together.
So you kind of have to like.
Yeah.
We all kind of, we decided not to tell the people in the meeting that we were with, like, what had happened.
Like the other people coming to meet y'all.
Yeah.
To meet us.
And so, but then they found out, I think, through your stories later and we're like, oh, my gosh, I'm so glad you all didn't make it to Pennsylvania essentially.
And so, yeah, my parents were super worried.
Yeah.
It's horrible.
Yeah.
Pretty crazy.
I think you're very shaken up by it.
Okay, so, um, yeah.
It's also just kind of, it was crazy because you and my mom were, I mean, my mom was pretty adamant about me coming with y'all.
And there was like another thing, like when I denied coming on the trip, like there was another part of me that was like, because I remember when we flew to, um,
where did we just fly to out of Miss Chicago so Chicago yeah yeah but a different different plane but yeah same airport same airport same kind of situation where you know you we both were on the plane that small plane and like you know there was like all that turbulence it was a little scary and I remember thinking man if this plane goes down like our kids with both of us like I remember thinking that and so I remember making a mental note in my head hey next time we do business trips just one of us can go like it's fine you know I remember just kind of like it's fine you know I remember just kind of like
like that in my know of like why I wasn't going to come with y'all i remember that was like a small
it was like a factor like i was like we don't both need to be on this plane like yeah you know um
and so it's just it's just crazy but like i um yeah when you told me i was definitely very
shaken up um obviously so sad for the pilot so crazy that you decided to change last minute
because we always just fly out of mesquite like just the routine
And so definitely wild.
Yeah, like I said, I never, it's weird because I didn't know him.
I had never met him face to face.
But usually you text with the pilot beforehand.
And it's, I think the hardest part for me was I was like, oh my gosh, I was texting him last night.
Yeah.
And it was just like, I mean, we have like three texts.
It was just like, hey, I'm Jordan.
Excited to fly with you.
So surreal.
And just no one.
It, I think for me, it's.
like, so I got home and you were at your doctor's appointment. And so the first person I told was
Jackie who cleans our house. And she's very prophetic. She's like, she's always like, I see it. I feel it.
No, she's like, she's like Latina prophetic. She prophesized me over me all day. Honestly, she prophesized
over me so much that I'm kind of like, okay, Jackie, you prophesied me over yesterday. Like, I'm good.
And she, I told her. She's like, I'm not, she's like, I'm not meant to just clean your house. Like,
I was set here to pray for you guys.
She was for sure.
No, she was.
She always knows she can feel in our spirits like when we're fighting and stuff like that,
which is both a double-edged sword.
It's a positive thing.
She walks in and she's like, she's like, you guys are fighting.
And she also like wants to deal with it and we're like, Jackie, like, we'll figure it out.
Like, you know, so anyway, I told her I walked in and I don't know for some reason.
I was like, I want to know what Jackie thinks about it.
So I was like, Jackie, I almost died today.
And she was like, no.
She's like, no.
And then I showed her the video and like told her what happened.
And she goes, Jordan, I'm telling you, God told me, you're Solomon.
You have a purpose so much greater.
She said, yes, business and the family.
But like, and she talks just like that.
And she was like, you have a purpose.
And I like, I kind of am like still shaking up.
So I'm like walking to the bedroom.
And of course she follows me.
And then she like shuts the, I like shut the door and she opens it.
She's like, you have a part.
Do you hear me?
Do you hear me, Jordan?
Well, that's the one thing I was, I was going to say is, um, okay.
So my mom and my husband were going to be on that flight.
Listen, we hold, we hold a, we hold a, we pull a lot of strings for dating.
That would be a support system that would be very difficult to lose.
I'd be like, I'd be like, dad.
Yeah.
What are we going to do?
And your dad, your dad's amazing.
Yeah, I'd be like, I don't know what I'm going to do.
But we, like, Danny's mom and I, we're like the workhorses, like, behind this family.
Like, we get is done.
And I was like, I, again, just had the thought.
I was like, does Danny know all the passwords?
I was like, I go.
So yesterday when I got home, I was like, Danny, if I would have died today, who do you call about our finances?
And it's always our friend Connor Combs.
Now it's on record so everybody else can remind us.
Yeah.
Combs capital.
partners, he's a strong believer. He's super trustworthy. I was like, Danny, who do you call?
And she was like, Connor Combs and I was like, okay, good. I was like, where's the will?
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No, honestly.
You know, like, there was this like piece to like, you know, I feel like if this would have happened,
last year, it would have been, I mean, obviously, no matter what happens, it's devastating
whatever happens to your loved ones. But there's this piece that I'm like, I feel like Jordan
and I have been fighting for our marriage like it's every day is our last day. Like, it's like we,
there were so many times that we could have just given up. And honestly, it probably would have
been easier at times to just give up and be like, okay, this isn't working. Let's just take a break
and go find people that give us exactly what we want in this moment.
And it probably would have been easier to do that.
But it's like only because of our faith and the strength that I feel like God has given both of us.
And this hope that God has given both of us that it will be so much more beautiful on the other side that we did persevere and fight.
And I feel like we have been fighting for it both individually, like and together every single day of this of 2025.
Since last Sunday.
Last Sunday is when we came out of.
Especially last Sunday, but even this whole year.
And so.
No, no.
Last Sunday is when we came out of the fighting.
Oh, come out of the fighting.
We got back in sync.
What was the date?
March something.
Not fighting.
We weren't fighting, but just like, we were just not in sync.
Like, it wasn't, we weren't, like, moving as this, like, unit.
And, like, the one thing I just, like, thought to myself is, like, thank God that, like,
we've seeked God, like, up into this point.
and like I could die personally, like knowing that I gave it my all, you know?
Yeah.
And there's like, and so there's that side of it that I was like obviously thinking about.
Oh, see, I was the opposite.
I was like, are you kidding me, God?
You put me through this Job season for four months and then we finally come out of Job season
and then you're just going to kill me.
I was like, I've got such a better marriage to live with Danny.
We're now in sync.
I got more to live for.
And three days later.
Yeah.
You know.
But it's like obviously a very sobering, you know, reminder to continue to fight like that.
And to take it all very seriously because life is so fragile.
And yeah, I just, your mind just goes a lot of really dark places.
Yeah, you just got to suppress it.
That's what I've been doing.
No, see, I've been...
Just shove it down.
Shove it way down there.
See, I haven't been doing that, and I've been feeling all the feels, and I've let my mind, like, go to those places.
Like, I've let my mind go, like, okay, so it's me.
I'm raising the kids alone.
What do I do?
Or, like...
Do you remarry?
What's his name?
Sorry, I didn't go that far.
I didn't get that far.
I was just like, how would we get through this season or how...
Or just, like, how do I want to live every day moving forward from this?
Or like, what is God trying to tell me?
Or, I don't know.
It's just so, sometimes it's so weird how God works.
Yeah.
The last thing, and I think we can shift the mood.
First of all, I've gotten a lot of text.
I appreciate it.
I think I'm okay.
But I also admit, Danny told me I'm going to have to process this.
And I admit I probably am not processing it.
Well, you said last night you were feeling guilt.
I was feeling guilt.
Yeah.
Yeah, we don't have to talk about it.
Yeah, I can't.
I'm shoving it down.
It'll come up in a year.
I'll have to deal with the PTSD.
The guilt or whatever.
But, you know, yeah, for now I'm okay.
And on a lighter, slightly funnier note, our private equity group for Divi called me this morning.
And they're great.
I love them.
I feel like we're like friends with them, but they called me and they were like, hey, you know, so glad you're okay.
You know, we really realized we missed in our diligence process taking out a keyman policy, which basically is like an insurance policy if like one of the main executives at Divi passes away.
It's like an insurance policy that gives financial buffer to the investors to figure it out.
They were like, you know, we probably should, now that you know you're okay, we should probably,
they were like delicately like prancing around it because they were like, they don't want to be insensitive.
Like, you know, we should probably like, you know, take out a policy.
And I was like, so you're saying I'm a key man.
So you're saying I am special.
So you're saying that I matter.
You'd miss me.
So that was the positive side.
Like, Jordan's like, what would you do?
I'd be like, walk into the diviobus and be like, hey guys.
So I'm a CEO now.
Does anybody have a computer I can borrow?
I'm usually just mobile.
I'm just mobile.
Like, does anybody have an email I can have?
Like, no, I was like, you call this person to run the company.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Let's leave it a mystery on the podcast.
Okay.
Maybe it's our podcast producer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, but I'm grateful to be here.
I do not think I will be flying on small planes.
I'm going to be honest.
I know I want to kind of say this that I stand by that those planes are safe.
Yeah.
The statistics are really hard to track because you're comparing like private plane rides to commercial aircraft flights.
And so the statistics aren't like apples to apples.
But I do think that those smaller planes are, I think that they are safe.
I don't know if I will personally ever get back on one.
I do not think ever that we would get on one together again.
And I think it would have to be extraordinary circumstances to do so.
Yeah.
And then for me, this is like a personal decision.
But, you know, they sometimes are flown by two pilots.
They're sometimes flown by one pilot.
This was going to be a trip.
Every time I've flown on one, it's been two pilots.
Yeah.
This was going to be one.
with one pilot and just from a systems check standpoint, I probably would never, you know, ride with
just one pilot.
You would like, yeah, I think, yeah, that makes, that makes sense.
It's probably a little triggering.
Last question, would you go skydiving again?
Honestly, I don't think with my, so I don't think with this keyman policy I can.
Really?
What else can you not do?
I don't know.
I mean, I got to read the policy, but I guess I'm just now thinking about like, are you
guys going to like hamstring me in life? The first questions they asked, they literally emailed it
right after and they were like, do you smoke tobacco? And I was like, no, do you drink? Like,
what other dangerous activities do you do? And I was like, so many. Crazy. A little bit of a
daredevil. You're like raising three children. I actually don't think I can skydive because of our
life insurance policy. Oh, wow. Which is in place. So if the worst would have happened,
Danes.
I don't want anything but you.
That's so sweet.
That was the right answer.
Hard pivot.
Yeah.
Switching gears.
I was realizing this in the car the other day.
Oh my gosh.
Have you ever listened to Kenny Chesney?
I know.
You have this like, you're obsessed with him.
Baby, went to his concert.
I know.
It was so fun.
Where has he been?
I know he's big for everyone.
But he's a little man too.
I am.
So pro Kenny Chesney right now.
Yeah, he's great.
Maybe it's because we're going to Cabo next week and it's like, you know, like the right
vibes for Cabo.
Cabo and.
I'm like on a Kenny Chesney kick right now.
Well, another thing that was weird yesterday was we got like the final offer.
We were, we've been looking at lake houses and we got like a final offer on this lakehouse that
we've been negotiating back and forth with the sellers on.
And honestly, like I, since it is a lake house.
house like I I wasn't as um not that I wasn't sold on it but like it's not something that you you need
you don't need a lake house but it's like a huge blessing and I was like man we could have so many
cool memories here with the family and Christmas and Easter and all these things and um and then
after yesterday I was like just get the dang like house like I don't even care like why am I so
hung up on like the flowers that are going to be planted planted outside of the lake house and so right
we're kind of like yolo now yeah I'm kind of
I'm just like, why are we stressed about this?
Like, just get the lakehouse, live it up and make the mems.
Like, don't be so stressed out over if they're going to plant a tree in the front yard or not, you know.
Do you remember what I said to you in the car?
You said that I'm, that I have commitment issues when it comes to houses.
Oh, no, I didn't say that yesterday.
Oh, okay.
I said in my new found mentality, and this was fresh.
This was like four hours after the incident.
Oh, you want to live life?
Yeah.
And do you remember what I said I wanted to do?
you wanted to do me in the car.
You said you wanted to do me in the car.
Okay, yeah.
I mean, that's like, I did say that.
Yeah.
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That is what I said.
You're right.
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That's what you said.
She wasn't into it, but.
Well, not.
It was dangerous.
What were you going to say, though?
No, that was what I was going to say.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
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Yeah, so, so we got, well, I think we got the lake house, which will be awesome.
It's so kind of funny, like the lake house that we got looks exactly like our house now,
which I didn't really love.
I mean, it's beautiful.
It's so beautiful, but it's like I really wanted, like a different style, like, warm and stone
everywhere and really rustic-y vibes.
And they honestly just didn't really have anything like that.
I was like, you know, I'm not going to get hung up on the aesthetics.
Like, this is just for the MAMS.
And, but no, it's beautiful.
And it's fully furnished, which will be really nice for us.
Like, they're leaving, like, their plates and napkins, like, fully furnished.
We wanted a place big enough for our friends.
That was, like, our big thing.
We wanted to.
Jordan's, like, Jordan's convinced that we have, like, so many friends.
No, honestly, guys, this is so funny.
We were looking at, so there's, like, a neighborhood that we bought in where it's, like,
a lot of newer places.
And then we were looking at this, like, older property.
It was $12, that.
It was 12,000 square feet.
And we say that just to show you how big this was.
And I was convinced in my head.
Like this place slept 32 people.
And Jordan's like, we don't know.
And I was like, this is too small.
We have too many friends.
And then I started counting the friends that we have on our hands.
And I barely got off like one hand.
Yeah, you think that we have a lot more friends that we do.
And the thing is even if you have a lot of friends, when you invite everybody to a lakehouse that has kids, like they're, they typically can't all come.
No, I know.
Yeah.
And like also you don't need every single time you go, you don't need to invite every single person you know.
I know, but I just, we got really excited about it together.
Don't act like this is my idea.
Danny named this place that we were going to, we thought we were going to open up like our base with our own resort.
And she was like, it's going to be called the Ramirez Ranchita.
And I was like, yeah.
Like, and then we can like have like custom soot that's like the Raychita.
Yeah.
And like then we realized that we would have people out for opening weekend.
And then only like two couples.
would want to come like the next weekends until the next big thing and we would be stuck with all
of this space and we were like yeah we literally had this moment we were like what were we thinking we're
so dumb we're so stupid we're so stupid well it wasn't just that it wasn't the fact that it was like so
big it was the backyard was massive and it required a ton of maintenance it had like two outdoor
kitchens like it was like literally like a mini resort and um what was hard is it was the same price
as the house that we bought because, but it was outside of the community, so it was cheaper.
So what that means, though, is, like, we would have to basically, like, create the
environment, the resort.
Like, we would have to, because where we bought, they have, like, a lot of amenities.
They have, like, you know, they have a restaurant nearby.
They have two public pools.
They have concerts.
They have all the things for you there.
And here, you would have to create it all, which would just require, like, a lot more
work. Like if we were going to invite friends to come out for the weekend, we'd have to go out a couple
days earlier and like power wash it and get rid of all the cobwebs. There's tons of bugs.
But I was so convinced. Listen, I'm the least handy husband you'll probably ever meet. And I was like,
yeah, I can totally fix that. Like I need a nail gun. I would have to spend a power washer. I need
this. And I was like, no, Danny, don't worry. Like I can maintain this place. No. And here's a thing.
And then so we went, we went and looked at it while it's raining. So we weren't really able to like see the
backyard very like actually like experience the backyard we went back on a really sunny day and there
were so many spiders so many spiders not just like on the outside but also on the inside like cobwebs
and stuff I was like I can't like I can't I would not come out here by myself because I'd be so scared
of all the bugs that I can't I can't so then I was like if I'm scared of the bugs Stella probably
won't even get in the pool because she's so scared of all the cobwebs so anyway it was just it was an
her home like beautiful beautiful it was built in 2001 um so not that old but it was like you know a different
style um uh oh doesn't this make you think of our lake house this is kenny chesney it's a song called
get along it reminds me more of the ranchita so funny because jordan when i met him like
you hated country music no i mean this is like america yeah i don't know it's like Kenny chesney
he's like America in a bottle.
Yeah.
America in a bottle.
That's great.
Yeah.
So hopefully we'll be able to use it before Easter, which would be, or for Easter, which would be awesome.
So we're pumped about that.
What else has been going on with you?
How are you doing?
What are three things you're grateful for?
You're alive.
Strong number one.
Let's see.
We're going to hang out with some new friends this weekend.
Yes.
Yes.
We're making new friends.
Two new friends.
We're going to dinner with Broadmoor House tonight.
Stephanie from Broadmoor House.
She just bought a.
I don't want to say where it is just in case she didn't share.
Keep it private.
What else am I thankful for?
They let her in.
They kicked us out.
Explain that one.
Should we tell that story now?
I think we already did, no.
Did we?
No, we didn't tell a story.
Maybe we can tell it now because it's like funny.
It's like past.
It's in the past.
No, just don't.
We got kicked out of a suburb.
Kind of.
Ran out with pitchforks.
Yeah.
Kind of.
We had this like angry realtor.
Not agent, agent.
Not our realtor.
Our realtor is amazing.
This angry agent.
She tried to blackmail me.
No, not blackmail.
me. Sorry, what do you call it?
Blackball. Blackball? Like what do you? Yeah, blackball. She tried to blackball me.
She sent a video that I filmed of many publicly listed homes that you can find.
You can find the price and the layout and the pictures of all online.
She sent it to a country club to all the directors of the country club.
the board of directors of the country club, trying to black ball me from the country club so that I
could never get into the country club because I took a video of these homes and because when I went
to go visit the country club with someone that was a member, I took Swedish fish and crackers
from the woman's locker room, and which he said it was fine. And I think she just was an angry
person. I don't think she liked you from the get-go, to be honest. She was one of those.
And she never gave me a fair shot. I'm like, yes, I'm married to her, but come on. Give me a shot.
People always like, Danny's the worst. Her husband's funny. And I'm like, you don't even know us.
Yeah. They just, people, you know. This is the text she sent to our realtor. I'm not going to say his name.
Blank, your clients took Swedish fish and crackers from the blank country club?
Question mark, question mark.
This is completely unacceptable.
The video has already been sent to the blank country club board members.
I have lived in this community for 15 years and I will not tolerate this level of disrespect.
Take down the entire posts immediately and confirm once it's done.
And I was kind of like, I was like, we're nice people.
But like, this seems a little disrespectful.
I was like, all you do was ask nicely.
Yeah, like, it's kind of like, now I don't really want to help you.
Like, and honestly, like, I'm here trying to feed my wife who's breastfeeding.
And yeah, if she needs Swedish fish.
Swedish fish and crackers, like, I'm going to give them to her.
Guys, they were set out for anyone and everyone.
They're for public consumption.
And we were with a member that was like invited us to be his guest so that he could show us around.
because we were thinking about applying to be members there.
Honestly, we weren't really.
But like, and here's the thing that's so weird is the video we did end up taking it down because, you know, it's like we were just like.
I held out for as long as I could.
This drama is so not worth it.
Like, it's so silly.
No, we had to get.
We had to get lawyers involved.
We had to get lawyers involved over this.
And we're not those people.
We're not litigious people.
No, like literally, you could call me and be like, hey, Danny, like, you know, and do you mind taking that down?
You know what I would have done?
I've been like, absolutely.
I would been like, are you cool if I edit out this one or two clips and then I repost it?
And like, you know, we never shared where we were.
We never said the community.
Like just some people just want to fight.
And I feel like, do you feel like they just want to fight or do you think that they
didn't like that I was like a content creator?
To be honest, I don't think they liked you.
Which is so funny because I'm literally so nice to everyone.
Like, literally I don't have a mean bone in my body.
But there's these people that just don't like you.
Like, and I, listen, they think that they hide it, but I can see it in their eyes within the first five seconds.
I really can.
Like, they think that they're hiding it.
And I'm like, no.
I'm like, this is bad news bears.
Because you're, like, you're in this position with some people.
You are never going to climb out of the hole that you're in.
I feel like I've done it.
And they don't even know you.
It's literally just, it's your profession.
It's what you do for a living.
It's who they think that you are.
are. It's the manipulation they think you're doing. It's all of the above. But like that person was
one of those people. And honestly, what I felt was that community was probably full of those people.
No, I don't think so. I think that I'm kind of extreme. Yeah, you're being extreme because you're
hurt and that you say something like that. Her people, hurt people. And I, and I'm hurting people.
Because you were hurt. Yes. Yeah. And you're taking it out on the rest of the community. I don't think that it's
like that. I've heard wonderful things. Are you doing this because I have some
Oh, no, I was biting my lips.
Oh, yeah, you should bite your lip more often or bite your tongue.
So, yeah, I don't think it was the community.
I think it's just you find people like this everywhere, you know?
But so I don't want to take it on the community because honestly, maybe we will end up there one day.
I don't want to be, I don't actually want to be blackball.
And here's the thing, I'm not really a country club girl.
Like, I'll join one like because I want to make friends and like use the amenities and stuff and get the free Swedish fishing crackers.
but like it's okay if I have been blackballed there like I don't really care that much and here's another
thing I just want to say the video that we shared it was the one where we were going to look at houses
in the suburbs so a lot of you all probably saw it we took it down it's not live anymore I we re-edited
it and post like a new version on TikTok it didn't do as well because we had to edit so much out but
um but in that video like I was like pumping in the car and like had like the pumps up to my boobs
I'm like talking about breastfeeding.
I'm talking about like these not intimate things, but like just normal things.
It really grosses me out that this like female agent sent the video to all these old, sorry,
if you're a man on the board, but like all these elder men on the board.
Like that just, we don't know if they're elder men.
Babe, yes we do.
Like come on.
Okay.
It's like, I, you're stereotyping that it's old white men on this.
country club board. Give me a break. They could be a very diverse community. I'm going to look it up.
Let's look it up. Yeah. You think that there's a diverse. First of all, I doubt there's a female on this point.
You want to know how petty I am and how protective I am over my sweet baby, Danny? I almost sent a crate.
Yeah. No, not a box, not two boxes. A crate of Swedish fish and the exact brand of crackers to that country club and said, sorry, here's your repayment from Danny Austin.
and husband. Yeah, I'm sure they were really, really upset about those, the two Swedish fish
I took. Literally, they were, it was like not even a packaged Swedish fish. It was like the bowl
where you can take out a couple. I probably took three out and I put two in my Chanel bag just
floating around there. Like, there's probably still one in there. Like, that's the type of class you
guys are missing out on over here. Our podcast producer said that Danny was super nice. No, no, she heard
before she worked for us. Oh, yeah, sorry. Our podcast producer heard before.
before she worked for us, she just disclosed this for the first time that Danny is sweet and
her husband's a little kooky. That's what she heard. That's what she heard about us from someone
who used to live in the neighborhood. Well, I mean, is this how it feels? Oh, it feels terrible.
See, I thought I was just a funny guy. Oh, man, now I like hate myself. How do you deal with this
every day? It's horrible. It's horrible. I just immediately went from feeling really great about
myself to just horrible about myself.
Jordan. First of all.
You deal with this every day. Yeah.
See, this is like... And here's a thing.
It was so easy when I could just deflect onto you.
I just feel like, yeah, she's mean.
I'm funny. Like, here's a thing.
People hate me. I know.
Like burning passion.
See, I think people that call you kooky don't hate you.
And then they're just like, yeah, he's a little kooky.
A little out there. I mean, would some say eccentric?
because that's a title I will accept.
I've been working hard for that title.
Yeah, I like eccentric.
But I will say, if you can ever learn to just accept it and be like, I'm hated, it's so freeing.
See, I'm like, I'm not at that stage in my recovery.
I'm like, I want to isolate and I want to egg their house.
Like, that's how I feel.
I would egg their house with you, babe, because you're my man.
But no, there's just like this piece, whatever you.
you're just like, or if you're like, yeah, I am the kooky husband.
Yeah, it feels so good to just be like.
I think males have a much more fragile ego than females, though.
Yeah, for sure.
For sure. For sure. Men are so funny.
They're so like, it's just like they're a bunch of little, like, I just think of you guys as like little China dolls.
Yeah.
Like just little china, like pieces of China that are just so fragile.
Like, you know, when you enter like, a little.
an antique store and you're so scared.
Like you have to be so sensitive with them.
And like just touch them exactly right.
Like, or it's just going to,
I think that men probably feel the same way about females too.
And you know what?
It's always like the most menly, manly men that have like the most fragile egos.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
For sure.
For sure.
Like me, I'm,
how's your ego doing after last week when I called you?
you know oh the d word um no i've kind of like accepted that i was like okay yeah you know
there's that mode let's stay out of that mode let's not go there it's not go honestly my ego is like
really like recovering right now from this kooky comment still i'm not gonna lie it's okay i'm just
like wait i thought our neighbors like i i really thought i had my reputation in this neighborhood
figured out no i think like i was the i was the funny one no you definitely
are the funny one, but, babe, like, our neighbors don't love us. Don't worry. If you're a neighbor
listening to this, we have been looking at new homes. So just find peace in the fact that we
might not be here long term. The real estate market is picking up. We are trying to get out of here,
not because we don't love you guys. Honestly, it's because we want to have a fourth child and we need
more space. But don't worry. Find peace in that. Yeah. It's not that I don't love our neighbors or hate
our neighbors. I just, I know I do love our neighbors. I know. I love everybody too. Yeah. Love thy
neighbor as thyself, but right now I hate myself and so do I hate my neighbors?
I'm kidding. What else's going on? Um, I, last time we went to our marriage counselor,
our therapist brought up, um, their attachment style. Have you heard of attachment styles?
Yeah, there's like anxious avoider.
you have heard of them. I had never heard of them. Yeah, I heard about them from one of our friends who was
talking about it, but I forgot who. So there's four different types of attachment styles. And I've been
reading a lot about them. And I want to see if you can identify what I am and what you are.
Okay. So attachment styles are basically how people emotionally connect with each other, how they
emotionally connect in relationships. This typically develops, your attachment style typically is influenced
by the way that you were raised and how you were taken care of as a child.
So there's four kinds.
You have secure attachment.
You have anxious attachment.
You have avoidant attachment and then fearful avoidant attachment.
So secure attachment is like the healthiest of them all.
That means that you have healthy and stable relationships.
It means you're comfortable with intimacy.
You're comfortable with being independent.
You trust people.
you're emotionally available.
You communicate well.
You have healthy boundaries.
Question.
Can you change styles?
Yeah.
Oh,
you can evolve.
Yeah.
It's not like the enneagram where like you are one.
Yeah.
And I think that you can change styles and like be like in this one for one scene and this one for another.
So typically people that have secure attachment styles, they are raised in a very consistent and responsive caregiving home.
So then you have anxious attachment.
Okay. So this is when someone is a little clingy. They're kind of insecure. They fear of abandonment. They need reassurance. They're highly emotional. They're needy. I'm this one. I know. You are. I was going to see if you can catch it. It's so hard. It's not my fault. It's how I was right. They overanalyze their partner's actions. They struggle with self-worth.
Yeah.
This, little kooky.
Not always, because I don't want to blame any of, like, our parents here.
But this can sometimes happen when the parents are either neglectful or inconsistent parenting.
Okay.
To be clear, my parents weren't either of those things.
But yeah, we love our parents.
We're not here to talk shit about our parents.
But this is just what the book says.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
So then there's avoidant attachment.
This person is distant.
and independent.
They prefer emotional distance.
They value self-reliance.
They're uncomfortable with closeness.
Yeah, this is Danny.
They avoid.
Wait, hold on.
They avoid deep connections.
They are typically raised by emotionally unavailable
or dismissive parents.
Not your parents, but.
Do you think that I am uncomfortable with closeness?
But here, let me read the last one.
so that you can get the.
Okay.
So then the last one is fearful avoidant,
which means that they are disorganized
and send mixed signals.
They,
sorry, I can't read my hand right.
Crazy?
Is that my notebook?
Yeah.
I have no,
this word looks like I wrote,
Craily.
One, intimacy.
Oh, okay, okay.
So they crave intimacy,
but they also fear it.
They push people and then they pull people in.
They have emotional highs and lows.
They switch between clingy and distant
and they have a hard time trusting.
Typically, this comes from some type of trauma
or inconsistency with caregiving.
We're the middle too.
You think?
So you don't think I'm fearful,
but you don't think that I'm disorganized.
Like I send mixed signals.
You think I just am emotionally,
distant. I value self-reliance and I'm uncomfortable with closeness and I avoid deep connections.
I think that you are evolving out of that, but I think that that is your natural attachment style.
Okay. Okay. I totally agree. Isn't it so funny that like...
And I'm evolving out of mine. Yes, yes. That's why I caught... Stage five clinger.
See, such a stage five cleaner. Oh, my God. Because I'll be like... I love you. I just love you.
Oh my God. You were such a clinger on, was it Sunday?
Oh, yeah. I was overcompensating because I had been really distant.
And I was like, I'm going to swing this pendulum back.
Yeah, yeah. And then I went stage five quinger.
You went stage five clinger like, I couldn't walk into a room without being like just mauled by him.
Assaulted essentially.
It was okay. It was sweet because I know that you care.
But yeah, isn't it funny that like we're opposite attachment styles yet we're together?
Like, do you think that?
I think that the whole thing is like, I thought the.
worst, what is yours called? Mine's avoidant attachment. Yeah, I've heard that
two avoidant attachment people are really, really bad. And then two, what is mine called?
Anxious. Anxious attachment. It's just catastrophe. Oh, I could see that. It's like two co-dependent
people being married to each other. It's just wrecking ball for. So I wrote some key takeaways
that I've personally been working on, but I thought they could be helpful for both of us and maybe
for some of the people listening.
So my thing is when I don't like my feelings or communicating or just sitting with like
the sitting in something, I withdraw.
I'm like a withdrawer.
I shut down.
Jordan and I could be communicating talking about something.
And if I don't like the way I'm feeling, I kind of like go inward and I turn into this
little ball.
And I sometimes even, sometimes I even envision myself like like an egg.
where everything is just like bouncing off of me.
Like, oh, it's like a survival instinct.
Yeah, like I just am like, I go inward and I'm like self-protect.
And it's like I go into a little ball and I just think of all these things just like bouncing
off of me.
And sometimes I will actively start telling myself a story while the other person is talking.
That's what you're doing.
Yeah.
So like I start.
I'm like, are you here?
No, I'm actually not.
But I don't want to interrupt you because I don't want to start like World War III and like I
don't want to escalate.
So I go, I just tell myself, let them just keep going.
And I'll be like, so today the sun is out.
And later on, I'm going to organize my closet.
And just don't listen to what they're saying, Danny.
Just let it bounce.
Just let it bounce.
And I just like literally, I try to put my mind into a different place.
So I'm withdrawing.
And I'm like, you and Jordan could talk for hours.
I mean, this guy could just go on and on.
on and he speaks so eloquently and beautifully and it just go but then after a certain it's like
it's like what was charlie brown the teacher that's like wow wow wow wow like that's me so um so
what i've been telling myself lately is danny get back out there like get your get like like put your
up and fight like you know push through yeah and so i have to get myself back in the game
we almost we almost so one of our marriage counseling sessions danny did her little egg thing
and uh she shut down and she left me with these two marriage counselors we we had to have two
that's how serious for 30 minutes and then 30 minutes go by and i'm like talking and i'm like
trying to work it out and they're challenging me and i was like whoa whoa whoa why is no one talking
to Danny. She shut down 30 minutes ago and you guys are just mauling me over here. And she did her egg thing and
she was in her little egg and she was like today it's sunny outside. And I'm just getting hammered in this
session. You put yourself in that position. And then you know, that's how you justified it. You were like,
well, he put himself in his position. So it's sunny outside and I'm going to be my closet. And then I'm just
like fighting for my life in here. Yeah, but you could have tapped out and been like, hey, Danny,
I know. Where are you at? I know. I had a part. We had to stop blaming other
people for our i don't blame i don't blame okay so um so instead of withdrawing learn to express our needs
so put our like put your head back out get out of the egg crack yourself out of the little egg like
a little dinosaur and get back out there and fight number two sit with discomfort and and learn how to
cope this is sorry these are all if you're a you're a anxious avoider
This is just how to have better, healthier attachment styles in general, no matter which one you are.
This is what I need to do to get myself into the secure attachment style.
Sit with discomfort and learn how to cope with those feelings instead of trying to fix things in the moment.
Jordan, how do you cope with your feelings when you're feeling uncomfortable?
I usually don't feel uncomfortable with my feelings.
I think I try and talk it out.
Jordan, that's what it's saying.
It's saying sometimes you need to be sit in discomfort and learn how to cope instead of trying to talk it out when your wife is not in the mood to talk it out.
Oh, okay. Sorry.
I was missing the context of this conversation.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
Yes, yes, yes.
If Danny is feeling her feelings, I need to be okay with how that makes me feel.
And I need to sit with it and cope with it.
And sit with it and I just say, hey, Danny, I know I can tell you don't want to really talk right now.
I'm here if you want me.
Or if you want to talk for now, I'm going to give you some space.
Okay.
But what I'm saying is, Jordan, you usually feel anxious when you say that because then you're in your head like, oh my gosh, she hates me.
Oh my gosh.
Like I'm the worst.
Right, right.
So how do you deal with those negative things that you're telling yourself in that moment?
I say, I'm awesome.
I am nice.
I am good.
I'm a good guy.
I'm sorry, babe, listen, listen, we've been in recovery mode for like three months.
Okay, I'll tell people what I do.
Okay.
You take it away.
Okay.
So, to sit.
Papa's tire.
Pop us tire.
So if I was going to have to sit with uncomfortable feelings, like, let's just say Jordan is really
mad at me and he's like, hey, I can't talk right now.
I'm going to, I'm going to go.
I would always talk about it immediately.
I would be like I'm so mad right now.
Let's talk about it for three hours.
Let's just pretend because you know me.
Like sometimes I'm the one that's like, I don't want to talk about this right now.
I need a minute to process.
Then I like the puzzle.
I like to go on a walk.
I like to call a friend.
Just talk it out.
Journal.
Pray.
Listen to music.
The whole point you're making is that you don't have to process it out or talk it out at the moment.
You can go do other things that divert your anger away.
Yes.
Because I think a lot of times people try.
to push through these these conversations when you're in the red you're seeing red you're like
so emotionally aggravated that you're never going to get to like a point of peace because you're
so emotionally like angry and I can never see clearly when I'm angry I don't know about you
but like my emotions like when I'm emotional like I it's so weird when I'm angry
when I'm angry I feel like I'm seeing things actually more clear than ever
but then it always.
Yeah, no, it's for sure the problem because then I come out of it and I calm down.
I was like.
It's silly.
No, I mean, the repercussions are just so bad.
It's not worth it.
So bad.
So not worth it.
Number three, choose emotionally safe people.
So, like, this is a big one because I feel like back in your 20s, you feel like you have to be friends with everyone.
And you feel like you have to have a ton of friends.
But what I've learned in my 30s is that.
first of all I don't need that many friends.
Number one.
Number two is like I can be picky as I'll get out when it comes to the people that I surround
myself with.
Like I don't,
I used to be so insecure that I felt like when I went to a party,
I had to talk to like the most popular people there.
Like I had to,
I was such that girl.
Like I just wanted to be a part of the cool group, you know?
And I never really felt like that comfortable with them.
I just would push and push because I'd be like,
this is what's going to make me important.
This is what's going to make me valuable as if I'm friends with the cool girls.
And like I so don't feel that anymore and I don't feel like I have to try as much.
Like I'm like, I can go sit in the corner at this party with these two other people and just be totally content and at peace with who I am and at peace with like these people and how they influence me in my life than like trying so hard.
So just choose emotionally safe people.
Yeah.
You know.
Are we emotionally safe though?
Like, because we were anxious avoiders and, what was mine again?
Anxious attachment.
Adancious.
So what I'm, what I'm saying.
I guess in your 30s, you can choose emotionally stable people.
But like so much of our journey together was like evolving out of our emotional instability.
Right.
Yeah, I mean.
Like we had to like, we had to grow out of our anxious attachment styles.
Yeah, that's probably, that's why people probably didn't think that we were that.
healthy to be friends of. That's another hit to the ego. So we're kooky and we're bad friends.
That's all I'm hearing today. No, I mean, I don't think we're bad friends. I think that, you know,
it's like people know whenever you don't have your priorities, right? You know? And there's very
few people that you and I would probably take advice from, right? Because like for a lot of years,
we kind of thought that we had all figured out. But we didn't. No, we didn't all. We did. We
And so it's so special when you can surround yourself with people that you respect and you would take advice from. And like I think we're now at a posture where like we would do that. We would like be able to be like you have to have this humility. Humility to you to like see like, okay, we don't know at all. And we're willing to like have people speak into us. But yeah, I don't think that we were those people for others for sure. Yeah. No, that's that's true. Maybe just.
in a business sense. I think people came to us for business advice all the time. Yeah. Because they
knew that was what we prioritized. Sad. They never were like, tell me how to parent your children.
Oh. It's hard. So hard. Yeah. We're the worst.
Cooky bad friend. Worst people.
Okay. Last one I'm going to say is healthy love is stable, not
chaotic.
Stability in your relationships is so important.
You shouldn't be going through chaos in relationships every week and so much drama.
You know what I have a very stable relationship with is Ellie.
In fact, we were on our walk the other day and I was going to say something so mean about
another friend and I didn't.
And I was like, you know what, Ellie?
And I was like, never mind.
I'm not going to say it.
It was mean.
And she goes, good for you.
Most of my other friends, if I had said that, they'd be like, just tell me.
Well, you're going to say, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me, I don't want to know.
Like, that is so healthy.
Like, because when we talk shit, like, we both, sorry.
Danny, freaking Austin.
Sorry.
She's kooky.
She cusses.
She's the worst friend and she's the worst person.
Send it to the country club.
So, but yeah, it's just, it's really.
This is what happens when people are rejected from country club.
They go off the deep end.
They just give up.
They just give up.
We're really in the deep end.
We weren't even rejected to the country club.
We didn't even apply.
But anyway.
We don't belong.
We don't belong.
So yeah, I've been working on those things,
not just in our marriage, but in other relationships too.
Sorry.
I mean, it's just like, I can't do this day.
the plane ride and then the healing and the like there's just the kooky comment there's there's like black ooze coming out of me right now
I mean it's clearly trauma in my body I get it um I want to move on to something that makes you go
hmm did you hear about what Southwest is doing no so which is funny because your diet works for Southwest
I know, but he's, he's like going to retire soon.
So Southwest is taking away the free checked bags.
But apparently there's still the airline known for allowing two free checked bags when you purchase a ticket announced on Tuesday that they will be ending their free checked bag policy in May.
Starting May 28th, only Southwest's most elite rapid rewards A list preferred members.
Who's their CEO?
And passengers who book their top tier business select fares will receive two free checked bags.
frequent flyer A list members, Southwest branded credit card holders, and other select customers
will be allowed one check bag.
Everyone else will be charged for their first and second check bags on flights booked on
or after May 28, the carrier says.
It's a break with Southwest's 54-year history, one that could undermine customer loyalty to
the carrier, according to experts.
The announcement came as the company is facing pressure from investors to improve their
financial margins.
Man, isn't there any other way they could improve their financial margins?
The airline will offer to move from open seating to seat assignments.
What?
And sell extra legroom seats for an additional fee next year?
What, then why is this even Southwest anymore?
Is not even going to be the same airline?
Also announced Tuesday, our changes to Southwest Rapid Rewards frequent flyer program,
increasing the points flyers get for booking higher-priced business.
select fares while reducing the points earned on less expensive,
want to get away and want to get away plus fares.
Man.
Oh my gosh.
Bob Jordan.
That's their CEO.
Never trust a man with two first names.
And one is my name.
With the name Jordan.
So you kind of like,
I might not be seeing clearly these days.
You literally have to say the hair.
I know.
I was like, is this man me?
I mean, this man's like probably.
65.
Yeah.
I saw myself in him.
I know.
Oh my gosh.
And the hooded eye eyelids and the thick eyebrows.
What's the hood of eyelid?
It's just like when your eyes kind of go over a little bit.
Excuse me.
Sorry.
Don't worry about it.
It's fine.
I am just questioning everything.
I'm kooky.
I cuss.
I'm a bad friend.
I'm the worst person.
And I've hooded eyelids.
my gosh, babe. And your attachment style is anxious. I'm in anxious.
Anxious attachment style. With little self-deam and plummeting by the second.
Yeah, so Bob Jordan, listen, we're talking to you right now.
Erb Keller, the founder of Southwest, would be rolling in his grave right now, knowing that you gave up two bags fly free.
What is your company built on at this point?
I will say if they still have that free change fee, that's a big thing.
Danny, don't make me serious for me.
Do not.
You know, I was a Southwest ambassador two years in a row.
Yes, I was there with you.
Yeah.
I was one of the first Southwest ambassadors ever.
I was on the inaugural flight to Turks and Kikos.
Thank you very much.
I know.
And honestly, when they cut your contract, they really started going downhill, if I'm being
honest.
And I think it's without your voice speaking into the company as an ambassador.
No.
For 3 million Southwest Girlies.
No.
I think that that is literally.
They need me.
They need me.
Bob.
Bob, call me.
Come on.
Come on this podcast.
I'm in Dallas.
Bring Dick on.
No, sorry.
I have my own dick.
I have my own dick.
I thought Bob.
Bob, sorry.
I thought Bob was short for.
But Dick is short for Richard.
Yeah, yeah.
But his name is Bob.
His name's not Richard.
Have you met a guy named Dick lately?
Oh, sorry.
Your name is Dick.
But that's a hard one.
It's a tough one.
You would think that when it was adopted into the younger generation vernacular,
people would have really swayed away from it.
What are your take on this as a Southwest fan?
I'm not going to lie, we haven't been flying Southwest as much,
mainly because we like started flying other places.
We started flying American.
Yeah.
And they're the worst.
Yeah.
And they really, yeah, they're kind of just like.
kick you like a dog and you just keep coming back to American.
That's why we tried to fly these other little smaller planes because American just is rough on us.
To be honest, I feel like this is what a lot of things in your DM said.
All air travel is actually very dangerous right now.
Why?
There's commercial planes are crashing.
Like private planes are crashing.
You know, it's kind of just a weird time to be flying in the air.
Here's the thing.
As of March 14th, 2025, the number of aviation accidents this year is,
lower compared to the same period in 2020.
Okay, so it's just algorithms.
According to the data from the National Transportation Safety Board,
there have been 99 aviation accidents in 2025,
with 63 occurring in January and 36 in February.
In contrast, 2024 recorded 1,417 aviation crashes with 80 in January and 93 in February.
What is that? Wikipedia?
However, despite the decrease, it's chat to BT.
I looked this up last night, so I was curious.
However, despite the decrease in total accidents, the number of fatalities has increased.
In the first two months of 2025, there have been 14 fatal crashes, 10 in January and 4 in February, resulting in a higher death toll compared to the same period in 2024.
So it seems like there's there's like the same amount of plane crashes.
But I just honestly, I wonder if our algorithms are just smarter.
And like-
No, I mean, I feel like people are talking about it more, no?
That's what I'm saying.
The algorithms are smarter.
So people are talking about it more.
Oh.
Like I feel like because the algorithms are smarter now, we hear about one.
And then it informs us about the five other ones.
So the algorithms are really just feeding us more of what we're hearing faster than maybe they were two or three years ago.
I mean, it adds up if you think about it.
I start breastfeeding.
My whole algorithm is breastfeeding.
My whole algorithm was not breastfeeding through my.
months ago. It is just all I see on Instagram is breastfeeding, breastfeeding babies,
newborn tips. Like, it's all, it's everywhere. And so that's just kind of like my world right now.
Let me tell you something. If my algorithm keeps serving me plane crashes, I'm going to be back at
on site because that's going to be pretty traumatic for me. Yeah, I mean, for sure. But like,
I don't know. So it is interesting when you look at the statistics and actually wonder if it's more.
But I will say it seems like there's been more commercial plane air and crashes in commercial flights, which is always really scary.
Well, I mean, listen, we'll still fly commercial flights, but ain't no way I'm put my butt on a Southwest seat until Bob comes around on this policy because this is bullcrap.
This is not the ethos of Southwest.
And how dare he is?
Who does this man think he is?
Babe, here's the thing.
We've always been like A-LIS preferred, though, because we fly it so much.
But I'm not for myself.
I'm for everyone.
Okay.
Okay, Mr. Governor.
You're just trying to prime everyone for your political career.
Just trying to get out of this.
I am curious.
As founders and CEOs, do you think that this was the right move?
From a non-CEO, it seems like a rash decision that is resulting in backfire.
Here's the thing.
As founders and business owners, I feel for them.
I deeply do.
What else are they going to cut back on?
Like, it's hard.
It's hard out there.
If their margins are struggling, you got to do something.
Sorry, people.
Yeah.
No thoughts.
I was just thinking about it holistically.
Maybe they shouldn't have tried to fly to Hawaii in Turks and Kekos.
That's a thing.
Maybe they're expanding.
really they could have just been happy here, profitable here.
Just do it well.
But they got a little too big for their britches maybe.
Yeah.
He wouldn't happen.
And they got.
What can Divi learn from this?
Some would say greedy.
This would be like.
It'd be like us trying to go to 10 other retailers right now when we should just really
nourish, nurture the retailers we have.
With Alta.
Yeah.
And Amazon.
Or it'd be like us being like, we can also do skin.
care.
No, because that would be like Southwest being like, no, we can also do trucks.
That's true.
That's true.
They're just, they're still flying.
I don't know.
We'll have Bob on to the podcast and get some insight.
Okay, ready?
Yes.
Segment number two.
Things that make you go, hmm.
There is a new Texas bill that would allow voters to decide on daylight savings time.
This week, our clock spring forward an hour for daylight savings time.
And while it's lighter for longer, it can be an adjustment for everyone, especially if you have kids.
That's so true.
So it's like, why are you going to bed and when it's light outside?
So true.
Well, after much discussion nationally on whether daylight savings is actually necessary or not,
Texan is moving to let voters decide on whether it stays or goes.
So hold up.
We're going to have a different time in Texas than everywhere else.
That is so Texas and I'm all about it.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm so all about that.
We'll meet at 5 o'clock to Texas time.
That's like the people who are like, Texas need to succeed.
Yeah.
You know, like Texas be its own country.
That would be crazy.
That would be so crazy.
Do people still want that?
No, I don't hear about as much you're wearing.
Yeah, that was like a big thing for a while.
It was a big thing.
Under Obama.
Dumb question.
It's true.
That was when people thought.
That was true.
Yeah, I remember.
Dumb question.
Why do we have daylight savings?
No, that's not a dumb question.
I was actually hoping you weren't going to
ask me that because I have no idea.
Let me ask chat to be to.
Light savings time, DST, was originally introduced to make better use of daylight during
the longer days of summer.
The idea was that by shifting the clocks forward, people would have more daylight in the
evening.
That's beautiful.
Reducing the need for artificial lighting and saving energy.
It was first widely used during World War I and two to conserve energy for war efforts.
Over time, its purpose shifted, but the idea of saving energy remains.
Nowadays, though, the energy savings are debated.
And some argue the disruption to our schedules and health might outweigh the benefits.
Does that clear it up?
Totally. Thank you.
Wow.
That's like...
Okay.
Okay. Stop.
Okay.
So...
Okay.
Okay.
Turn her off.
I don't want to hear her voice again.
Sorry.
My gosh.
She's so spicy today.
I mean, the greatest generation invented it.
World War I.
What generation do we call?
What are they?
The greatest generation.
Yeah.
That's what they're called?
Yeah, the greatest generation.
Oh.
Right?
Yeah.
Look it up.
There's not, there's boomers, there's Gen Z, there's millennials, and then there's the
greatest generation?
Well, it's Jen.
No, no, like it's Jen something, but they,
are referred to as the greatest generation.
Because of World War I?
And two.
Okay, they can have that. With World War II, they can definitely have that.
Look it up. Make sure. I'm wrong. I'm not right. Yeah.
Okay. So,
1927, though.
I didn't want to be cookie and stupid.
But wait, I think that was just,
where was World War II? Yeah, so that was just World War I,
the greatest generation. Yeah. That's when this is a man.
But it's fine. Yeah.
So my point was, oh, my question is, if you had to vote, would you vote to keep it or to?
No, I'd get rid of it.
Eradicate.
I'd eradicate it.
Yeah.
We can't play God.
But I don't think God created time.
Like, the time standard.
Like, sorry.
Mind blown.
No, I mean, like, time, yes.
Did God create time?
No, but like the numbers that we associate with time.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
Um,
Britain's on level zero.
Okay.
I'm actually trying to figure out like what the question even is.
So like the question is,
do we not hop forward an hour?
Yeah.
Like do we just like.
No,
let's keep time the same.
Okay.
The earth can rotate at whatever it feels like doing.
But like time should not shift.
Okay.
That's what I think.
Shifting time is always a bad thing.
It's a bad thing.
It's plain God.
I kind of like the daylight savings concept.
So you like going to bed when it's light outside?
I like it.
I love whenever everybody wakes up and we're like, oh, what time is it?
It's so funny.
And it always gets it.
Yeah, Danny loves it because it's so funny to wake up and be like, oh, what time is it?
It's so funny because I love it because it gives me an excuse to me.
like late to things.
And I'm like,
oops.
It's like June and
Danny's like,
I'm so sorry guys.
This daylight savings
things have really
throwing me off.
I love it.
Like Danny,
it changed three months ago.
It's consistency.
And I just love that it throws a wrench in it.
It's just like,
let's just mix it up.
Yeah,
that is so freaking you.
I know.
I love it.
That is so you.
I'm like,
you're like,
can we vote for more?
Like let's change it like four times.
a year. Just to really eff up the economy.
Just change it and don't tell us. I'm like, let's just all show up.
Just change it and don't tell us.
That's so stupid.
I literally am crying because I just realized how much I love it. It's like a holiday.
It's like a holiday. For me.
Well, Danny's going to be like one of those blue hair protesters outside of Governor Abbott's office.
Like, don't take away my daylight savings.
It's everything.
Like, it's like, it's just like you.
Like life is forged.
This is so daddy.
This is so daddy.
She's like, eff it up every day.
Like, just like, don't even tell me what time is.
Like, let me just guess.
So to be clear, you are pro daylight savings and you actually would say,
thank you, man, have another.
100%.
Okay, got it.
I need it.
It's a holiday.
It's critical.
It's critical for me.
I'll just wake up and be like, oh, where am I? What time is there?
It's so important. It's so important. It's so important. Okay. Let's end on a positive note with an addition of chicken soup for the soul.
We've already talked about things that we are grateful for, but I want to know something that you are looking forward to this week, this month, or in the future.
I'm looking forward to going to the lake this weekend.
and making new friends.
And making new friends.
Same.
I'm looking forward to that in the next daylight savings.
It just changed.
I know, but the next one.
Okay, so you're not going to get more depressed when it goes darker earlier?
No, I don't get depressed because it's changed.
And I never understood why people are like, oh my God, I'm so depressed, it's dark outside.
I'm like, guys, this is so exciting.
It's so new.
Like, everything is different.
Like, you know, like, everything is different.
You should have seen her during that eclipse.
I mean, she about Peter Pan, she was like, this is so different.
Have you heard about the red moon that's going to be happening soon?
No, what's that?
I Google it because I actually don't know, but I saw that there was like an article that
the red moon coming to Texas.
It's just coming to Texas.
Do we vote on it?
No, babe, I think it's special.
Like, I have heard that it's like a special Texas thing.
Maybe because of the time.
Yeah, Texas.
Yeah, you're right.
This moon just showed up to Texas.
It's called a blood moon and it's coming.
Oh, oh my gosh.
It happened today.
We missed it.
It happened this morning.
A total lunar eclipse commonly referred to as the blood moon.
occurred early this morning, March 14th.
During such an event, the Earth aligns directly between the sun and the moon,
causing Earth's shadow to fall upon the mood and impact it with a reddish hue.
In Texas, the eclipse began around 10.57 p.m. on March 13th, with totality,
the period when the moon is entirely within Earth's shadow occurring between 126 a.m. and
2.31 a.m.
Shoot, we were asleep because we, I mean, we could have woken up and been like, what time is this?
saving.
In North Texas, including Dallas, skies were mostly clear to partly cloudy, providing favorable
viewing conditions.
That's why.
Yeah.
So if you miss the event, the total lunar eclipse is visible from Texas on March 3,
26.
So everybody set your call it nerds.
Or don't.
Or don't.
Just to keep it interesting.
Okay.
we have got to go.
We've got to go.
We've got to go.
Okay, well, we love you guys.
Oh, what's the thing that we always say at the end of the podcast now?
Did we make something up?
We just said we were going to just end it and it's funny.
Oh, we said that we were going to ask our audience to give us one.
Yeah, like, we're just going to be like, okay, bye.
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