De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - Is This the End of Our Podcast Era?

Episode Date: September 4, 2024

Hello De-Influencers, This is going to be our last De-Influenced Wednesday. Don’t panic tho because we’ve jam-packed this one with stories from the last two weeks and pop culture updates. We’re talking parenting hacks while shopping, why females love their true crime and a crazy story taking over TikTok. Plus, Dani’s causing a stir by being pro-media literacy?? We talk about the backlash and praise she got on her recent stories and why Theo Von may be the political interviewer the country needs. To stir up some more controversy, we’re getting Dani’s take on Sara Blakely’s new line of luxury-hybrid stilettos. Oh and of course we talk about the fear the internet has instilled in Tornado about the beloved air fryers, which ours is linked on our LTK, along with the Paris Hilton scissors Dani couldn’t pass up  ;) Paris Hilton Scissors Drew Barrymore Air Fryer While we’re on the subject of links we’ve worked with True Nutrition to get you guys a deal on some of our favorite supplements. Take the guesswork out of nutrition with True Nutrition and get 15% off with code DEINFLUENCED at truenutrition.com/deinfluenced ! Finally, we share some news about the podcast and why you won’t hear from us next week :( BUT we do hope you’ll be on the lookout for what’s coming next from De-Influenced. Don’t worry we’ll be back and better than ever before you know it! WE LOVE YOU XOXO

Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast. D influence. Y'all, we are dying over here because we just got confirmation of a guest that is coming on our podcast in like two weeks. Yeah, it'll be two weeks. Two weeks. You are going to freak out. It's going to be so good. It's probably the guest I'm most excited about.

Well, yeah, we. Although I did really love Jack Hollis. Y'all were obsessed with our last episode. we interviewed the C-O-O and executive president of Toyota, North America. And y'all were obsessed with that episode. Like, so many people are like, I'm sending it to my husband. Like, it's changed my life. Like, I'm in a similar situation as Jack.

And, like, y'all, I love it. It was so good. That was one of your guests. I got to keep raising my bar. Yeah, he's nice. I think I want to get Jonathan Haight on. Haight, hate. Tell us about Jonathan Haight.

He wrote The Anxious Generation. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's a, I think that we could, I mean, he's pretty popular now. Yeah. Like everyone's about his book, but I think we get him. Y'all should comment and tell us who we should go after. There's some people that we go after it and it's just like they don't, it's never going to happen.

But there's some people that like you would just reach out and you never know. And like they reply. And I feel like our next guest that we have on is kind of like, well, it's technically two people. It's going to be so good. I, listen, I don't want to shoot my own horn. What? I feel like this podcast is great.

I said this last week. I just kind of took a moment to reflect. This is the difference between Jordan and I. Like, Jordan runs on confidence. He is like all, even whenever I first met him and you were like 40 pounds heavier. That wasn't confidence. That was delusion.

That was delusioned. You are a little delusional sometimes. Yeah. And I run like really, really like realistic and a little negative, you know. And so we make a good team in that sense. But like, yeah, okay, to your own horn. Sorry. Beep, beep.

Okay, God. Do you feel better now? Are you good? No, I just, yeah, I think it's, I think, uh, I think we should do more of what we're doing. And I'm trying to figure out what we're doing that I like. I think you just are in a good place in life. So you feel like our podcast is really good. Maybe so.

And like, I was not in a good place for the first half this year, but I feel like I'm in a way better place. Yeah. The worst is when we have to podcast on the days we're fighting. It's like. literally the worst I almost we almost got there this week we'll go into that in a little bit data caved she apologized okay what's yeah that is the worst though that's the absolute worst it's the worst especially when it's like oh it's like a monday an episode comes out on

Wednesday like you can't skip like we have to do it you know what else is the worst I would say it's kind of the worst like this week where it's like I don't know what we're going to talk about but also that always seems like it's going to be the worst but then it ends up being the best episode. There's so much to talk about because we haven't updated them in the past two weeks because we had a guest last week. There's so much that has been. I know, but I don't know if it's like this with you. Like, I forget. Well, let's just get started. First of all, let's talk about Labor Day weekend. How was your weekend? It was a long weekend. How was it? Yeah, we, we, uh, what do we, oh, we, we, we had people over for the football game. That was so fun. Yep. Um, you know, I, one of the interesting things is I got to

observe Stratton for the first time, just experiencing like other children and like his mannerisms around other children. Because he's like with Stella a lot. Yeah. But Miles and Ali's son came over too and was stealing Stratton's cheese puffs. And it was so interesting. Like Allie wanted to intervene and be like, Holton, no, no, no, no. Let's see. Let's see what happens. And nothing interesting. But it was it was the start of him like, like his personality coming. coming out when he experiences conflict. Well, no, he's very territorial because his sister steals everything. Yes, very territorial.

So he gets very upset whenever somebody takes his toys because he's like, he's so used to it, especially when it's like another little boy. Yeah. Coming in. And so. So the result was hilarious because Holton is also very territorial. And what happened was Stratton spilled his cheese puffs on the ground. So there were probably like 16 cheese puffs.

And the way that they resolved the conflict, was whoever could grab the most and stuff them in their mouth. The first, like, they weren't, like, putting in their hands and trying to hold them. Yeah. And so they both just, like, had these, like, chipmunk cheeks full of cheese puffs and just, like, stare at each other and it was, like, good game. And they just, like, walked away for each other. And I was like, wow, this is, like, an experiment.

Yeah, it was, that whole day was so interesting because now our friends that, you know, a lot of them have babies. Their babies are getting older. And we had everyone over, babies included. And it was wild. Like the guys got away easy. I go downstairs. All the guys are sitting in front of the sofa.

Jordan's holding a rotisserie chicken like in his head, like a whole rotisserie chicken in his hand eating from the roticity chicken. Okay. And then Johnny has a pizza in his lap, like an entire pizza, like the whole cardboard box and is using that like as a plate just eating slice after slice. Like it's a whole like personal meal. And then all the girls are upstairs and we're like, I don't know if you heard all the like the crashing and bumping and running around.

Holton at one point, Sweet Allie, because Miles was out of town, so she's watching Holton by herself. And at one point, he gets up on top of the table and jumps off the table. And Allie tries to catch him

so he doesn't fall and hurt himself. And he bumped her right in the lip and gave her like a big bloody lip. Yeah. So it was like chaos. Chaos upstairs. And then downstairs, the guys are just like,

just gnaming, chilling, hanging out. So, Sunday was fun. We started to fight, which was really great for our weekend. It's like this whole thing and like I'm not going to get into it because it involves other people and like it just not it doesn't matter. But we Sunday we were like we need some time apart. So I took the kids to down to play which is like an indoor playground. So great like those indoor playground. So great like those Indoor Playgrounds are so great, but also really scary because you can't find your kid. And like, you know me, like, I'm the whole time.

I'm just like somebody's objecting myself. Like I just can't even like every, I can't even enjoy myself. Well, how many doors were there? Is there like one way out? One way in. Yeah, one way in, one way out. But you kind of just got to let go. You got whatever happens those tubes.

No, I'm not letting go. I was up in those tubes with them. In fact. Really? Yeah. I was absolutely like, I'm like, my kids are too freaking cute. I know, but like think back to your childhood. Like so many of life's lessons come from like being in those tubes.

And like like the social experiments. No, I know. And Stella was so quick. She would still run away from me. But I was like in the vicinity. I was keeping an eye on her. Yeah. And there were so many like parents.

They have tables and you can just like chill and drink a cup of coffee. And I was like not chill or drinking a cup of coffee. I wish I was. But then like Stratton's also just too little. He's too little. Like I can't. But they had a lot of fun. We stayed there for an hour.

Getting them out of those tubes was the worst moment of my life. It's like you try to do something fun for them. And then like it just you leave with screaming children regardless of whether they had fun or not because they don't want to leave. It's like you're kind of just like you're kind of screwed, you know, regardless. So then after that we got smoothies. Monday was an interesting day. We made up, which was nice.

That always helps a marriage. when like you're not fighting um and let's see i took the kids to target which was also an experience because you know i get those like big carts where they can sit like it's not just like a normal cart it's like where they have these like seats connected to a cart so like you're literally like a huge bus just going down all the target aisles which makes it really tough to navigate when you're really shopping for nothing like it's impossible um But, you know, they refuse to wear those straps. And so they are just like getting in and out and out, running all around, hiding in the clothes.

And I'm like, they're having so much fun, but like I'm like going nuts. And then of course, Stella falls out of the grocery cart. On to a counter with a Stanley cup knocks over the whole Stanley of one of the co-workers, waters everywhere. She's screaming, crying because she got a bruise. I'm like, this. This is, we're leaving right now, but still had to wait and legs. I was like, I still had to get, you know, strad and Sparta Man shoes and stuff.

So it was just like really, you know, chaotic. So what did I do? Well, it's okay, because soon we'll have three. I know. It was the first time that I was like, whoa, was this a good idea? But you did make a really interesting observation. You don't really see a lot of parents out. With three.

With three. No, you see. You see like the husband in the life. No, you see parents out with three, but you don't see one. Parent. one to three ratios out. Yeah. Like what do you mean?

You see parents like a mom and dad out with their kids all the time. Not one to three. But you don't see a mom out with her three kids. Young three kids. That would be tough. That would be tough. You don't sit that often. So what did I do?

I decided to take them to my favorite place, Nordstrom. Yeah. You have some bold. That's the thing is like if I take them out, I'm like, okay, we have a very specific agenda. Yeah. I'm like, we're going to the movies. Yeah. We're going chick filet.

If you don't eat your chick flay, we don't go to the movies. Like there's like carrots that I dangle the entire time. You're just like full tilt, like let's go shopping and try on shoes with two toddlers. That's how I was right. Like I'm very good with the flow and I don't like plan. I don't like structure. I like to just figure. Yeah, I know.

Kids thrive with structure. That's why I'm probably not the best mom ever. Sorry. But like, yeah. So we went to Nordstrom and Nordstrom actually felt more comfortable with my kids running around like that. I don't know why. Yeah. But, yeah, so we went and eight there.

It's funny because there's way more exits. I know. I don't know what it was. Like, you could really lose them in Nordstrom. I know. Yeah. But I don't know. I feel like Nordstrom is like such a, they're so good with like customer service.

And, you know, I had a, like, lost child on aisle nine. And I feel like they would actually care and help me. Man, you know that that's when that company has done something right. Yeah. It's like when you're like relying on them to find your children. Oh, I didn't tell you this. So you also can always get free balloons with helium in the shoe section, with the kids shoe section of Nordstrom.

Yeah. So I always get a pink one for still and the blue one for Stratton and I tie it on them. So when they're walking around, I could see the balloons floating around. Wow. That's a mom hack right there. Don't sell yourself short. That did help a little bit. But yeah, Nordstrom to me is just such a safe space.

Like they've just done a really, really good job at making people feel like they care. Yeah. You know. So yeah, that was my weekend. What kind of like pop culture things you listen to these days? I watched this show called The Terror when I was mad at you. You ever heard of it? No, it sounds very healthy though.

No, it's got like a hundred percent on rotten tomatoes or something. But it's about two ships from England. I think it's a true story, but obviously the show depicts like more sci-fi stuff. Yeah. But these two ships take off to try and find the Arctic passage and they get stuck in the ice. What's the Arctic passage? I think it's up by maybe. What's so special about it?

Well, it was like a faster way to... Oh, okay, connected, like the continent or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it was like a big deal to try and find it. And so... What are we talking, the 1700s? We were talking like... 18th century, 19th century.

1850, I think is what... Okay, 19th century. So anyway, it's a 10-part series, and these ships get stuck. Okay. and there's this creature that ends up attacking like the ship. Nessie, like nice monster. No, that would be more like, if you're thinking that trajectory, it would be more like the abominal snowman.

Oh, okay. Yeah, just. Oh, so the abominable snowman. Well, I don't want to ruin it and I don't think I'm ruining it. Like the creature ends up being like a glorified polar bear. Okay. But anyway, so then they like partner with the Eskimo to try and like get this creature. Anyway, crazy story.

And I, it's so haunting to me. that like I have thought about it for the past 48 hours because the whole story is like about this captain who tries is trying to like save his men from being stuck in the ice and then he ends up at the end just going and living with Eskimo. I think I think you did just spoil it for a lot of people. I know, but it's like you kind of still got to watch the show because it's like one of those things where it just like sits with you and you just chew on it. You know what's been sitting with me.

Yeah, that's what I want to know is what's up with you. So many things. You know, it's, no, I've been just, I take a nap every day and sometimes I watch something to put me to sleep. I'm so glad we're off Love Island though. I really feel like that was, the guys and I were talking about this in the pool. And like, I'm not saying it's like emotionally cheating, but there's something about these love shows that we feel a distance from our wives whenever you guys get really sucked into these love shows. Okay. Do you know what I'm saying?

It's kind of like the conversation we had. What's that fantasy book that you read? Oh. Thorn of Roses or something. Court of Thorne. Yeah. Yeah. It was kind of like when that we had that whole conversation in debate.

It was like all of us guys on the team, which is like me and J.D. And then all of the girls. And y'all were talking about how like you got so emotionally invested in these books. And we noticed a difference. I didn't say that. No. I was advocating for that. was that

like we always tell our husbands or people are dating like no porn but then you read these books and a lot of time they have like basically you're it's like porn that you're reading and so the husbands are like

oh it's so sweet like my wife is over there like reading a book but then you actually look at the pages and it's like and then he bit her bra off and then like so not sweet that was the conversation That was more so the conversation. And I had said, I don't, we already talked about this on the podcast.

I know. But so converting it to Love Island. Meanwhile, I'm over here reading World War II history. I know. It's true. You really, you really take in a turn. But like converting that to Love Island, it's so funny because I would just like walk in the room because I wasn't really that invested in Love Island.

And all it was was like a bunch of dudes and really short shorts and like their shirts off like having make out contests with these. And you're just like, oh, like, like, it's so funny because when you watch these shows, you're, like, I know that you're not like actually mentally invested in this, but you're like, I bet he's a bad kisser. Or like, no, I never said stuff like that. I would say stuff like, ew, he gives me the ick. Like, I wouldn't want to kiss him. And then you would, but you would explain some of the characters and be like, okay, well, here's the hot guy. And he's obviously so hot.

Like, look at him. And then like, but it just becomes this like thing that it's not actually emotional. Yeah, it's trash. I know. It's just trash. I know. It's trash. I am not going to watch another one because they're so addicting that like you just, you do get emotionally invested. I would say the girls watch it because truthfully like the challenges where they're making out and stuff is not why I watch it. In fact, I actually feel like I fast forward through all those because I feel like those are just for like promos for the shows and they're like all fake. But it's like fun to see the emotional connections and like the. dynamics between like the men and women and then like when new women. It's like a social experiment.

Yeah. Just with naked people. Essentially. True. But yeah, I'm probably not going to watch another one because those are kind of trashy. They just don't really do much for me. Really what I'm really into right now is, you know, I always go down the true crime documentaries. What do you think it is about true crime that hooks females as well? That's a good question. I think, um, I think it's fun. to like figure it out. Yeah. Like the mystery. And I think it's like it's fun to put together the pieces and like go read an article about this and then you go to a different source and you see a video about this. Like you feel like you are the investigator yourself. Yeah. Like you have that

power to make your own decision and then you get to see if you're right or wrong. It's like a puzzle. Interesting. Yeah. Huh. Because I wouldn't say it's fun to like be like, oh, I can picture myself there. Like that's not why. Because that's why I like a lot of the books that I like, like the World War II books were the one about the end. I'm like, I like to picture myself there and be like, man, what would I do? Or like, that's not why I feel like people like true crime.

It's more like I want to be able to figure out. And then it'd be fun if like I guess and then I'm right at the end of it. Yeah. The same reason why you probably like true crime. I'm not. I think that it's like, I think guys are into true crime. but I think that their primary audience is females. And I've always wondered, like, what is it tapping into?

Like, Love Island, I get it. It's the emotional connection. Yeah. A little bit of sex appeal spice in there. But true crime, I've never understood, like, what the draw is. Well, there was the murder of Lacey Peterson. There's a Netflix documentary about that one, which was really interesting. This one happened like years ago.

Yeah. But I definitely recommend that one. one. I'm like, he definitely didn't. Her husband. Really? Like 100%. Like it's just, but he still to this day, claims that he didn't. Um, but I won't give any more spoilers than that. Um, and then I watched one, um, okay, there's one about the Menendez brothers that's coming out. It's actually a true crime drama. Like it'll be, it's a drama based on their story. And it's about these, the two brothers, these two brothers that were like sexually abused and just like really horribly abused by their parents, their entire.

lives. And one day they decided to kill their parents. And then they got away with it for a couple years, inherited like the mansion and all the money. And then finally got caught because he confided in his psychiatrist. Oh. And his psychiatrist told his girlfriend at the time. And the psychiatrist's girlfriend and the girlfriend broke up. And then the girlfriend went and told the police to get back at the psychiatrist. What? Yeah. So anyway, that's... Also, I think that if you confess to a crime to your psychiatrist, it breaks HIPAA compliance. Like, they can break HIPAA compliance? Yes.

I know. So I was reading more about it. And that's what I was trying to figure out because it said that he broke client privileges or whatever. But I know. I agree. I think if you say that you killed someone, they have the authority to stop. Yeah, so did I. And we'll have to watch a show.

I see. So that one was really good. But now my new thing that I have been going down the rabbit hole is, have you heard of the Apple River stabbing? No, but you did tell me about it. But tell me about it as though I haven't heard about it because I think people need to know. It's really dark and scary, but it just recently happened. It's all over TikTok.

All the videos are censored because it is like a little bloody, but it's nothing like you're going to be scarred for life by. It's just really like, it's really creepy. But so this happened in Hudson, Wisconsin. there is a river that people can float down called Apple River. I think it happened like not too long ago, like this year, I think maybe a month or so ago. And you have a bunch of 17-year-olds that are floating down the river. I believe they're drinking. You know, they found blood, I mean, found alcohol in their blood. And then you have this man named Nikolai Mu. I don't know where he's from, but he has a

pretty heavy accent. A lot of people said that they thought he had like a heavy Russian accent. So he is snorkeling near this group of teenagers And apparently he had lost his phone When he was floating down the river He was with like a bunch of other couples and his wife Like they're just having a good time And he's snorkeling looking for everything Well these teenagers start harassing him

You know just being typical jerky teenagers Like and they start you know calling him names And they're like what are you doing over here? Creeper they thought that he was like spying on them Or trying to like look at the girls you know, booties as they were like floating by. You know,

they're just kind of messing with him. And he gets closer to them and he's looking everywhere and they start calling him a rapist and then it gets into like more of like a physical altercation where you have all these like teenagers kind of gang up on him. At one point they push him and he falls

and it's all on video because one of the teenagers is, is filming it. And it's all in video. So when he gets up from being pushed to the ground, he has, he pulls out like a little pocket knife that he has and no one knows that he has a pocket knife. And so he starts stabbing like these teenagers,

but because they thought that he was punching, they don't back away because they didn't know that there was a knife. So they kind of like keep coming forward. So then he stabs another one. He stabs five teenagers, kills one 17-year-old instantly. Another one, like literally he slashes so much. His intestines are literally falling out.

He's holding them in his hands. He stabs a girl. And so this whole thing was like, he just was convicted this past week and he was guilty, he was sentenced to 20 years in prison, but the whole thing was like, was it self-defense or was it not? And you can watch the video and that's why like everybody on TikTok is kind of trying to like come to their own. What's the majority saying? Um, the majority that from the comments I read were like this poor man was like harassed, like the kids, like this would have never happened if the kids would just left him alone if they

wouldn't have pushed him to the ground, like all this stuff. But then there's, this other side of it that's like, yeah, but why do you have to stab five of them? Like it was like a fit of rage almost. Right. But then I'm also like, well, if he stabbed one and then you had other ones coming at him, then so that it's just like a really. It's a mess. It's a mess.

Yeah. It's a pretty convoluted situation because it's like when you, if someone's attacking you and in self-defense you shoot them. Yeah. I think that you're like allowed to empty the entire clip. like shoot to kill essentially. It would be like if someone's attacking you and you shoot more than three bullets, it's a crime.

But if you only shot two, it wouldn't be a crime. It's kind of like what's the line at that point to truly say this crosses out of self-defense and into self-defense. The interesting thing is that it's on video. When you describe the story to me, it sounded like more of a fit of rage to me. But if they were all like coming at him and he's, I have to watch it. I can't watch it.

Like, I can't. I know, I know. I think I've been off the internet for so long that I can't like take in the toxic stuff as much anymore. Like I like watching and I'm like, oh, I know. It was hard.

It was hard. But I also feel like it's like news and I'm like, I'm learning. Okay. I think that that you just answered my question about the true crime is I feel like, I feel like secretly in your brain, you're like, I'm informing myself. And if I don't know the verdict of this Lacey Peterson case, then like, I don't care about the news. No, no, no. Like it's connected to news.

No, that is not what it is at all. It is like the Lacey Peterson documentary is a form of entertainment. Which I know sounds horrible. Like I probably, I shouldn't be saying that because it's obviously a horrible murder. That's what every true crime junkie says. But yeah, like I'm learning. I'm figuring it out. I'm like I'm the investigator.

Yeah. I can do this. There's probably also like this degree of... The same reason why you read thriller books or you read, you know. True. But... You were really excited about something. I know.

Gosh. Oh, I was going to tell you. So I think there's like this common culture with people that love true crime that like we're always, we're kind of extremists when it comes to like, probably the same reason why when I take my kids to an indoor. playground. Like, I can't let go because I picture the worst thing happening. You know, like, when I was growing up, my mom would be like, don't put the knife up in the dishwasher. Because if you do, you will slash your throats and bleed to death. You know that you do

that. I know. With our kids, you're like, hey, Stella, if you don't tie your shoes, you're going to trip and fall and you'll knock out all your teeth and you won't be able to eat apples anymore. I'm like, wow, descriptive. But my mom did the same thing to me. It was how you're raised. It's just by extreme paranoia. So when I was taking still at a target, Bubba was trying to like, you know, we have child luck on, but sometimes he likes to push those buttons,

look at the window, you know? And he was trying to push the buttons. And so I goes, Bubba, do not push the buttons. If you push the buttons and open the window, you will stick your head out and smash your head. And it will hurt. She's like you.

She's becoming me. I don't know. I kind of like it, though. I like to. still the fear of God and them about some of these things. Yeah. And it's probably like not totally healthy, but. Weird bizarre thing that's happening is we have no idea where she picked this up.

Oh, the F word. Yeah, she's been saying the F word. I know. Well, she said puck it. Puck it. Yeah, but when she's angry. So she's like, she'll like. Because I don't say the F word and neither does Jordan.

I will say like I've said the S-H word, but I don't say it around my kids. And she'll also be like, what the. and like say. No, see, I've never ever said what the F ever. I never say that like it's so trashy to me. I'm like there's no reason to be saying the F word like that. If it's like you shove your toe and you say, hmm, then I'm like, okay, get it. But it's so crazy.

I have no idea. We think it's the toast. It could be. It could be the morning toast. Because Danny does her makeup and listens to the toast. But usually Stella's not in there. Yeah. But we can't figure it up because we also like, I'm very intentional about like if they're

in the room, I will not watch my shows. You know where I think it could be? What? I'm on a bag on my girl. It could be Taylor Swift. Really? I think it could be. She says bad words.

Yeah. I think it's like, or whenever I work out in the morning, I put on like top hits. And so sometimes like those songs, like they just play randomly. Yeah. I need to find like a top hits that's like non-explicit. Right. Because I don't like to hear the cuss words either. I do wish like Taylor Swift like wouldn't cuss so much.

And it's like not because I'm like, I just want to be able to listen to it with my kids, you know? Yeah. Because I mean, she loves. Because like Taylor's so good without cussing too. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's just awkward. Like do you think that when Stratton gets that age he's going to be cussing in Spanish?

Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. No, I think that every kid goes through it. And Stella, even though she's only three is so smart. Like, I mean, that girl is insane. Like I get DMs every single day that people are like, I'm a school counselor, I'm a teacher, or I'm a speech therapist, and like Stella's speech is like way above her years. And even the way that she like understands, like even though she's three, like I could explain to her something as a bad word and she would, she would know better.

And so I'm just finding like the right time to explain it to her because if you don't do it the right way, then they will use it against you. And you, they'll be like, they'll use it to like push your buttons. Yeah. As a parent, when she said it, I kind of like locked up because I know you're not supposed to make a big deal about it. No, you know what I do. What do you do? When Stella said the word damn, remember when she's gone in the like phase of saying the word damn? Remember what I do whenever I, this is a genius parent hack.

Okay. So Stella started saying the word damn. And this was so this was like probably three or four months ago. What I do is I go, no, Silla, it's, oh, what a sham. Yeah. So that I'll turn damn into like a word that rhymes. I'm like, no, no, so you're saying it wrong. And then she'll be like, oh, what a sham.

Yeah. You know? And like, I've done that with her like even with dang. I think she said dang one time. And I'm like, no, it's no thing. That's how you say it, Stella. Like if you're serious with her, you don't laugh about it. You don't.

You're like, no, no, no, you said it wrong. And then they're like, oh, okay. And then they just like move on and they never say it again because they don't even think it's a word. It's so interesting where our children pick up their manual. Because some of the mannerisms, I'm like, oh, that's Danny or oh, that's me that Stratton's doing. But some of them are so like, like, like Stella is like quirky. She's quirky. And she has these like mannerisms that I'm like, I don't understand.

Like she'll be like, she'll be like, what's the big idea with this? Like, well, I say that. I go, what's the big idea? No. Yeah, I do. Oh, you do? Okay. Like she says that about everything.

Like Stratton will be playing with somebody. She's like, hey, what's the big idea with this? This is my toy. You know what I'm like? Oh my. gosh. No, but her mannerisms where she gets really excited in her eyes and like she's super goofy. She's quirky goofy girl. Yeah, that's crazy. Are you, so back to the, the shows. Oh, I can tell you more about what I've been watching and consuming. Well, I do want to ask this question. Do you feel like

there's so much content being produced that it's like overwhelming and you're not invested in anything? No. Really? So more content equals better for Danny? No, it's not more content. It's just more content of the categories and the topics that I enjoy. Like if there is a true crime in the top 10, I'm going to watch it. Yeah. There's one about Aaron McNair. There's a murder about Aaron McNair. I watched the untold.

About the sign stealer from Michigan. So yeah, anything like that. Like I love to like learn about it. Yeah. I just feel like there's so much content being produced that it's kind of overwhelming to me. I'm talking about a piece of content I did watch. Did you watch in full the Theo von Trump interview? No, I did not, but I heard you listening to it this morning.

It is. It honestly seemed pretty funny. I just have to go on record and say, we need more celebrities and, or no, more like celebrities and normal people interviewing politicians. Yeah. It humanizes them so much. Like Theo Von is like calling Trump like, homie, dog, dude. like they're talking about Theo Bonn's like sobriety and Trump's like man like you you're doing okay now

like he's like oh yeah he like told him he did cocaine and stuff yeah he was like in in recovery and Trump's like started talking about his his brother that died that was an alcoholic like who knew and Trump's like talking about all of his friends that he hangs out with and goes golfing with and it's just like why don't we get that get more of that I feel like it would help these politicians so much but like they just don't do it. Well, I think what's so weird is that I actually think that that is what Obama pioneered was like he was such a like public figure icon human. And I think that that's been like a role that the DNC and the Democrats have done super well

is like making their politicians like pop culture icons. And I feel like they're trying right now. And their campaigns are really good. But like I heard recently that did you know that Stephen Spielberg? produces all of Kamala's campaign. No way. Ads, yeah. Like, they just have such a good niche of creatives that are producing that content.

But I think the problem with them now, like Waltz and Harris, is that I don't think that they do well in sitting settings like this. Yeah, like interviews. Yeah, because like Lex Friedman is a big podcaster. And he, um, he offered to. get them in and he was like, I haven't really gotten a response, which is so odd because if it was Obama, he would have been on that podcast all day, every day. I just don't think she does well in like real-time interview settings. Well, same with, I mean, Biden, of course, but like Trump was

talking about how, you know, Biden didn't want to give up his seat when he was running for president, but it was all because of that one debate that he was like advocating for. Like he wanted to debate Trump and then just went over like it went over so poorly and so finally they were like like he had to concede essentially right but um yeah i don't know it was super like whoever's on trump's campaign team right now is crushing it in terms of putting him with like he did theo vons podcast but wait can i just say this and i don't know for sure i think i think that he did it because i don't know how this kid is like related to trump i think it's maybe his grandson.

Is it Baron? Yes, Baron. I think Baron's his son. That's his son. Barron's his son. Oh, Ben. Right?

Yeah, Barron is his son. Oh, he's so young. Yeah, he's like, he's really young. But his, so it's Barron. But I think he's the one that advocated for Theo Vaughn. So smart.

And then Dana White is the one that set them up. Yeah, because like, so do you know who Aiden Ross is? Uh, he's like a big Twitch streamer. I think they talked about him, yeah. Yeah, and they did a huge like live stream

and the controversy around that was. With Trump? Yeah. He went on a Twitch live stream with like the biggest, one of the biggest Twitch streamers out there. Uh-huh. And the, the controversy was that Aiden Ross gave him a Rolex live on the stream.

And then everyone went up in arms that it was like a breach of, like some rule like gifting, ethics, you know, violation or something like that. Wait, how? It'd be like if I gave Trump a Rolex. Yeah, but you can't get, you can't give him a gift over a certain amount. And so, why? Maybe it would be considered bribery for a presidential candidate.

So bribery, but wait. Trump gave him a Rolex? No, no. Aiden gave Trump a Rolex. So how does that benefit? I think a cyber truck too. So how does that benefit? Realistically, probably in the moment, it didn't.

But like they, it was, it became an uproar because it technically was a breach of these rules. Okay. I understand the rules. I'm just trying to, I understand why you can't gift your doctor things. That makes sense. Yeah. That's bribery. I'm trying to understand.

Oh, because then Trump could give him special privileges. Exactly. You could have just said that. I did. I said corruption. Okay, but, okay, I get it now. Like, if he ever got in trouble with, like, the pleas or something, like, Trump could. Yeah, hey, Trump, remember, I gave you that Rolex.

Come on, give me some grace. Like, you know, something like that. That doesn't make sense. It's the president. Yeah. But it was also, it's so funny because it is an example of just this crazy thing that happened on a live stream that blows up in his face because of this. That obviously died down.

No one talks about anymore. Yeah, Theo Vaughn had Bernie Sanders, and they talk about Bernie in this interview. Oh, they do. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that what it's so funny because of like what a lot of these comedians are doing better than most like mainstream media is like giving us both sides. Yeah.

Like they're being very measured. Like Lex Friedman, you know, has has a lot of like Elon Musk on. He has a lot of like politically right people. But he also is advocating to have Harris Waltz on too. And I was like, man, that's so cool because like I want to know long form both sides too. Yeah. And so it's kind of like, are comedians saving America right now?

No, seriously. I would love comedians to do more interviews. He did talk about Theo Vaughn was like, I would love to have Kamala on. Like, please, would you come? Yeah. Like invited her. That'd be cool if she went.

It would. I truly don't think it would go well for her, but like I would love to see it. But I don't know. I feel like people would have said the same thing for Trump. And I think the one thing that people took away from his interview is like, man, playing so much into a character, like when he is on stage, like doing these same.

Like he, like, was a different person in this interview. Really? Like, he was just so normal. And then, like, he turns into this, like, crazy person when he's on stage. That's, like, so mean and, like, weird. He's, like, a media man, though. He, like, knows who his audiences are. And I think the audience of someone who will actually show up to, like, a political rally

is very different than the audience, like, tuning into a Theo Vaughn podcast. That once like like normalcy and logic. Yeah. And then yeah. Wow. It feels like just generally speaking feels like politically, climate's pretty tame right now. Am I just,

am I just out of the loop? Like I feel like no one's fighting as much as I thought that they would be. I got a little bit of like slack, a little bit of heat in my DMs when I talked about the Zuckerberg apology. Yeah, I don't understand that one. Why did you get hate? Well, you know,

you just. Well, so, you know, Zuckerberg apologized for. Or did he apologize? I think he wrote a letter like saying he regretted. So I don't know if that's an apology. When the Biden Harris administration pressured him to take down posts that were like humorous, humor and satirical about COVID-19 plus take down content about the Hunter Biden laptop.

Yeah. And so he acknowledged that in like a letter and was like, I regret doing that. So I posted it because I was like, man, this is great. Like, you know, someone that was really powerful, he is at least recognizing and like publicly stating that he did something wrong and that he would not do it like that again. And I'm like, so all we can do is like take this as a win and everyone should learn from this and move forward. And people were, you know, you had conservatives that were upset with me because they were like,

no, Danny, he needs to be held accountable. and he and like I get it like what he what he did was really horrible but like these people are getting away with so much at least he publicly acknowledged it like I'm just saying it's a step in the right direction like whatever happens next like yeah sure um and then I had you know people were liberal that were upset with me because they're like well they were uh he did the right thing because he was taking down like misinformation about COVID and saving lives and that and then I'm like I can't I really pissed off both people I'm I really pissed off like the left and the right.

And I was like, damn, I was just. And so what I posted was, I was like, it would be really great if all of these, even though they're privately owned, I understand that Facebook is privately owned. I understand Zuckerberg can do whatever he wants with it. I don't know if y'all understand that. Like, it isn't, he can do what he wants, right? Right. And so, but it would be really nice for these leaders, even though they have the authority to do

what they want to give people free speech and then let people discern. and learn media literacy and decide what they want to consume. Like, no matter what, like, we should learn that regardless. And so then I just posted about, here's what, here's what media literacy is. And this is how you can decipher what is real or what's not or what maybe has an agenda and what doesn't. And this would be really great if you use this, if you are liberal or conservative. Like, I'm not taking one side or the other, but, like, people couldn't, they couldn't, they couldn't handle it. They couldn't handle the fact that, like.

Darn your moderate takes. I was so moderate, that I was so in the middle, and I was like just trying to be reasonable and logical and give somebody a resource that helps everyone, you know? I will say I did get like four texts that day of people texting me and being like, hey, so proud of Danny for posting this. And one of them. I wasn't even, it wasn't even like that big deal. It's like so logical. It's like, give people free speech and then use media literacy. It is not a left or right statement. Yeah. I think it's because the source that I, which I, I, I share.

I shared a source called Real News, No Bullshite. Shite. And I think, you know how, like, which they're supposed to be, like, moderate, this news outlet. But, like, you know how sometimes the left or the right, sometimes they come in the comments and, like, dominate? Well, I think it was, like, more conservatives that were in the comments that just happened to, like, go.

And so then maybe they thought I was, like, sharing. I don't know. I don't know. Whatever. So, I'm still going to share what I want to share. I honestly, I'm getting to a point where, like, I just, you know, No, you can't please everybody. And I still feel strongly about media literacy.

So our team's listening. They're like, she's going rogue. She's going rogue. She's going rogue. No, I haven't even said anything. That's like, whatever. No, honestly, I think that what people in media appreciated about what you said is that they, they equally don't want to be caught up in this crazy like left or right conversation.

They're just trying to deliver news to. Like one of the people who texted me was the founder and CEO of Morning Brew, the newsletter. And they're bought by the same. that owns Politico and he just, I think he appreciated you trying to educate your audience on media literacy because I think everyone in media understands how outrage works and knows it's kind of a lose-lose. And so moderate discussions are probably the path to the future. Yeah. But they're not going to come unless there's media literacy because people take the kind of propaganda on both sides and just get so crazy about it. People get upset because yes, there will be misinformation

spread, but that's what free speech is, is hearing both sides and like deciding what is real and what's not. And like that's where you take back your power and decide what's, you're looking at me like I'm crazy. No, I think I agree with everything you're saying. Just for some reason, I just know it's going to make someone angry. And I'm like trying to figure out, I'm like, I think that you're saying a talking point is going to make someone angry, but it's so reasonable. I don't know why. Well, because here's a thing is that like sometimes you think it's the truth sometimes you think like oh my gosh this is real but it ends up being wrong so like somebody was right the whole time so like let people share both sides of the story okay so an example of media literacy my uh my mother sent me a very very

you know scared text message maybe it was a go voice memo that was like danny throw out all of your air friars, they're poisoning us. And she had seen a TikTok, one TikTok, that said that all airfriars were poisoning our food and that all these people had died from air friars. I'm not saying that she's right or wrong. These airfriars really could be poisonous. Hold on. Pause, timeout.

Gen Z podcast producer. Can we hop on TikTok really quick and see if this is a trend on TikTok about airfriars? Let's just see. Let's just validate fact check, as they say. The biz? Well, my mom, like, it really scared her. And she knows that I air fry a lot of our chicken nuggets for the kids. And which is so confusing because I thought microwaves were bad, you know?

Yeah. So then I was like, oh. You thought you were. I thought I was like a granola crunchy mom. Like, and so I tell my mom like, mom, this is one video. I'm not saying you're right or you're wrong. But like, let's do some more research. Let's make sure.

But my mom is like to this day convinced that all air fires are demonic. They are all poisonous. demonic. Like she'll never be able to let her go. Yeah. Because of the way that that video like really actually impacted her. Yeah, man. I mean,

it's Facebook has. It'll brainwash you into thinking airfires are dangerous. I mean, we just, we weren't prepared for it. No one. I mean, millennials,

we were kind of prepared. But our parents were never prepared for the type of videos that were coming onto Facebook. Yeah. I mean, some of them get me sometimes. No, they get me too.

Like the one with the strawberries with the bugs. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, there's bugs in our strawberries. They're crawling out. I can't. I can't. And then so then I go take all my strawberries and like put like inspect them. And no, they get they get me too.

There's some there's some videos out there that like have there's this one where this guy. I actually just found this account. And if you all know this account comment in the in the comments and like tag him because he does, he takes a microscope like an intense microscope. like a real microscope, not like the ones that you have at home. Like he's like a scientist. And he inspects all of our foods. Oh, that's it. Like so he opened a back.

It's a Instagram account. Okay. So he'll do it like apples, you know, chips, crackers. And like he did it with a bag of Doritos. Ooh! He opened the Doritos. And I'm just like, see, I think this is, I think it's not real. Like, and I think it's like so not fair to Doritos.

But open a bag of Doritos, put a Doritos under there. And you see all these like little. white. It looks like lice crawling all over the chip. And like people are like, I'll never really do you eat us again. And honestly, it kind of scarred me.

That's. Yeah. The power that this man has over any food brand. I know. Does he ever endorse any good brands? Um, he doesn't never, he doesn't say.

Here's a sieta chip. Yeah. It's got good. I don't know. So then, uh, he, um,

he knows that he never says anything. He just puts it to music. Huh. So it really leaves like the viewer up to like make, he's like I'm a journalist. I'm just showing you the truth. That's crazy. But yeah,

honestly, I feel like some of his content is fake. That would be what for what purpose? His views are insane. He just wants to watch the world burn. Yeah. Get us, I mean,

he's kind of like a weird account. Like you don't see him. Like he doesn't identify like he, you don't see his face. It just is like, it's like viral views. That is so crazy. Like what if his whole mission is to,

he's like he's like, he's like media literacy. You just. You know, he's not even putting a face to himself. But what if it is a guy, okay, this is genius. This is very, what's it called when it's like you have to do what is ever necessary for the greater good? McAvelian, right? Uh-huh.

What if he is like this like McAvelian character and he's sitting here and he's like, I know that Kellogg's and all these big food companies are basically poisoning us with all these bad ingredients? And he's like, I have to take them down. And he goes and this Batman figure creates its TikTok account. and he creates fake content so that no one eats these bad brands again. Yeah. It's kind of like, I mean, those airfriars, I mean, that's a work of art, though. It's a really great invention.

No. No. So you guys are on air friars. Oh, look. Yeah, air friars are just so dope. No, I'm obsessed with the air friar. Isn't it a Drew Barry? Is it a Drew Barrymore?

Ours is the Walmart version, and we had a Hot Pink one from QVC that I thought was really good until I bought this, the way cheaper one from Walmart that was Drew Barrymore's collection. It's so much better. Why is Drew Barrymore coming out with an air fryer? She does a home line. Really? Yeah. Oh. Like coffee machine. Like, wait, like, why not? Well, it's just, I would never connect Drew Barrymore to my home appliances, but. Maybe her show. I can get there. People love her. Really? Drew? Isn't her show called Drew. The Drew.

Wait. No, babe, she is like the next Ellen. Yeah. You don't know this about Drew Barrymore? I didn't know she was. She could do no wrong. People are obsessed with her. Kind of like Kelly Clarkson.

Kelly Clarkson and Drew Barrymore are like queens to people. I did not know that. Yeah. Kind of like Paris Hilton. Not in that niche. Paris Hilton does have her own line at Walmart. I was there two weekends ago. And I bought.

The scissors? Yeah. I was like. Because the thing about Drew Barrymore is like she's all like neutral and like cute. But then Paris Hilton has a kitchen collection that's all hot pink. And like I couldn't not. I was trying to. They're gold and hot pink scissors that I just.

They're the scissors that you can like use to cut meats and like use them in the kitchen. And I was like, oh, we need a pair of those. And like they're so freaking cute. I haven't opened them yet. But like they're so cute. That is so funny because I saw those wrapped in the packaging and it was like Paris Hilton scissors. And I was like my first thought was like, wow, Paris is getting cut. desperate.

Like, no, she does so much. Why would you brand scissors? But I didn't know it was like a whole line. Oh yeah. She has like the, um,

spatulas, pots, pans, and knives. I was bought like some of her knives. To me, I feel like when you know you've made it is when you have a home line at Walmart.

Mm. And not even Target. I feel like Walmart like when you put your name and your face on something at Walmart and it is sold to the masses like that like, do you know how many people shop at Walmart? although I will say it was really sad shopping out at Walmart. Everything is locked up. I know.

And I like, because you know, I buy everything online these days, especially when it's like Walmart or Amazon. And I still go to Target because it's like the experience. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

you know, look at all the pillows and stuff. But Walmart, I really just go in there with a mission. And I was looking for wire. So like that was, I went to Target first for wire. They didn't have it.

So I went to Walmart. And I walked in and first of all, like I couldn't get a grocery cart. I was like stuck outside for like 10 minutes and like, Nobody, all the grocery carts were like taken. They like were gone. Yeah.

Like not even in the parking lot, nowhere. And I'm like, okay, what are we going to do? And it wasn't even like that crowded. So finally I waited like 10, 15 minutes. I got somebody else's grocery cart. And then I went inside and like it was so sad. Like I couldn't get anything I wanted. I needed eyedrops.

I needed why board game. I couldn't. You had to click the button, but I couldn't find the button. So I felt like such an idiot. Like like, somebody helped me. And they're like, click the button. And I'm like, what button? Like, where is it?

It's like very high. Like, you have to look up. Like, you would think it's just eye level. And, yeah, it was just, it was sad. It reminded me of that one time that we were in New York and we were trying to get a pregnancy test. True. And this was like 9 p.m. at like a CBS.

And, and, you know, we couldn't find help. And I was like, this is so, like, vulnerable already. Like, I know. We were, like, married four years and this 17-year-old kid was like, oh. And I was like. But what if I was like, you know, looking for birth control or looking for condoms or and I wasn't, you know, obviously. But like, like, what, like, that's very hard.

Yeah. I think it's, Amazon is very happy right now because I think people are like, I don't even want to go to the store. I'm just going to order everything on. Sometimes I feel like it's a little depressing when you like. Never leave your house? Yeah. When you just stay home all the time.

Yeah. I felt like I was like I really want, well, and I was doing holiday decorations. that day so I needed it right then and there. But I'm like, it's sad. Like, you know, going to Walmart and seeing your neighbor, your fam, a Walmart fam. So anyway, I just feel like that shopping experience is really different these days. But yeah, I did get my Paris Hilton scissors, so I was very excited about that.

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No. We love your voice. No. You're a queen. People always tell me in the comments. It's like, I wish Jordan had his own podcast. Wait, I read none of my feedback. Is this true that this is happening? They're like, I love Danny, but I really wish Jordan has his own podcast. Or they're like, Danny, can you please stop having a lot? Well, guys, let me just tell you about Disney's earnings card. Okay, you go first then.

It's so funny because when we started, I feel like they really hated my voice. No, people love you. Yeah, yeah. It's not a competition. We are united and we are won as a team. No, I would love for you to be the frontman. I could just take a back seat for a little bit. Well, we got to rebrand this because this is pretty pink.

But so Disney's earnings call. I was talking to you about this and you said this is so interesting. You should talk about it in the podcast. Oh, yes, yes, yes. So basically. Oh, because I said I want to take. And honestly, I still might take stride in the Disney World this weekend. Yeah, that's wild.

Just me and him. I love that. We need like we needed mother son time. Yeah, yeah. I love that. So a lot of people have been complaining about Disney prices getting so expensive. So our friend Miles and Allie, they're going for a week, which I think is so long to go to Taylor.

We were like, really? I was like, are you sure you want to do this? They're going with their whole family. Yeah, I don't think they've really done Disney before. And they're like, yeah, a week. And I was like, all right, go for it. But anyway, so when we went, I was shocked because I was not a Disney kid growing up. You were not a Disney kid growing up.

No. So I mean, I watched some of the movies, but. So we wanted that experience for our kids. with Zoh Strollers, but we paid for some things ourselves too. And I was just shocked at like how expensive these Disney vacations can get, right? And a lot of people are starting to complain about it. Like the American family who this is like such an iconic destination is like, hey, like this is getting out of hand.

And what is happening is a lot of the fees on small things have gone up like churros went up 50 cents and like they used to have this free shuttle that took you from the airport to a Resort, now they're charging for it. And so they're like doing all this. Well, what was so interesting about Disney's earnings call is you start to understand why that is happening because basically they have been losing money on Disney Plus and their streaming business. So why do you think they are?

Because I think it's a really hard, you have so much competition in the market. You have Netflix. You have Paramount Plus. You have HBO Max. Is there really that much competition? I think that you at the same time had this like, you know, it's not. Disney Plus is not just kids shows. Like Deadpool is on Disney Plus now.

And so. Oh, so like Disney Plus is competing with the Netflix. Yeah. It's an entertainment platform. And what's also happening like macroeconomically is like people are cutting the cord with direct TV and like all these cable companies. But then they're realizing, oh my gosh,

I'm paying so I'm paying about the same if I subscribe to all of these services. So there's just more competition like Netflix is dominating. Max is probably on the lower end. You know, Prime is doing well. So anyway, Disney Plus to get- You have YouTube where you can watch all these kids shows. Yeah, to get into that market was like, we're going to lose money. And so what they would do is they basically just treated their parks business like an ATM machine, right?

So they basically were like, we're going to use our parks business, which American family is never going to get away from going to Disney World, right? So they started raising their prices incrementally across all of these categories slowly over the past like three to five years. And so it's why everyone is like feeling it, even post-COVID recession, there were like, wait, this is like getting insurmountable. Like we want our kids to experience this, but it's getting really hard financially to actually go to these parks. Now you have to buy the wristbands when you go. Yes, you have to do the wristbands. You have to do all these things. And matching T-shirts for the whole family.

Even them raising the churo price 50 cents is like billions. Yeah, billions of dollars, you know, in revenue. And so basically they've been using this like parks. business is their ATM to fund their streaming business. Well, the cool thing about this earnings call is that for the first time, I think that it broke even. It might have made like a $19 million profit, but their streaming business is now becoming profitable. So the hope is that Disney will become more affordable.

Yes. But I think that they're. Or they'll just be like, let's know both. I don't know. They're pretty aware from my understanding that like families are actually starting to boycott and like not go to Disney. Which is so funny because if you were a go, it's always so packed. It's so packed.

But they're seeing it and feeling it to the point where it's like, okay, this is, we're starting to pick up signals that like if we keep doing this, like we are going to potentially jeopardize our parks. So free shuttle to Disney World. Yeah. So petition. Yeah, that's crazy. So let's stop going as a whole and maybe it'll be cheaper. But it's just so interesting because everyone is always like, why are they, why do they keep raising prices? Why do they keep raising this prices?

and they attribute it to like inflation, all these things, and it's really because they were losing money on streaming. I had a blast at Disney. It was a great time. They got it dialed. They got it dialed for the- They know that. They know that the parents out there will do what it takes to go to Disney.

The majority of the people there are Disney adults. Yeah. I had so much fun. Like I, when I left, I was like sad. And I was like, I can't wait until I get to come back. They've got it dialed. And I just like, you love seeing your kids so happy like that. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm trying to decide. Do you think that Sharaton is too young for me to take it? Yeah, I think you should go. I think he'll have a great time. Because, you know, Stella was so obsessed with all the Disney princesses. And, like, Stratton's not really a Disney guy. He liked the Peter Pan ride. Yeah.

But he's not obsessed with any characters. He likes Mario, dinosaurs. Those are not Disney, you know. He would love, he loved the Ratatoui ride. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying is like the characters. Yeah. Well, the problem is true. the problem with Stratton is like he's having to constantly fight what Stella wants to watch,

which is all Disney princesses. And he's just like, can we watch Mario? He's so chill. But yeah, I think that that would be good for all. My biggest criticism with this trip is like I'm only going to be gone a couple days. I'm going to the YouTube machine game. Yeah, I only want to take him for like a day or two. Okay.

That's a lot. Okay. Well, you took our kids to Myrtle Beach. That's true. So. It was so fun. You should do this. You should do it.

So. No, but I'm just going to have me to see. Stratton. And then I would have to get Coco to watch Stella though, but she would love that. She'd be like, if she stays like the weekend with Coco and Poppy. Oh my gosh, she would love it. She would love it. She gets to stay up every night until 9 o'clock eating ice cream.

Like, they would love it. So I got to call on. I got to make this thing. This is the way I roll. It's like, what, it's Tuesday. I'm like, I think I'm going to go to Disney on Friday. That's so cool. We'll see.

We'll see what happens. Addison Ray. What's up? Well, she's got a new bop. And I don't know. I just is. Back from the grave, kind of. Yeah, but was she ever in the grave?

Or was she just really curating her brand super well? Because you have the DeMilios that, you know, became so TikTok famous and they just milked it right from the get-go. They got their TV show. They put their name all over his popcorn in these shoes. And they're just like, you know, making dough. They're still like the biggest on TikTok too. Everyone says that they're not relevant anymore, but she still has like the most followers

on TikTok. Yeah, but you can have a lot of followers and be not relevant. We'll see how many views she gets. I think she gets probably like two to five million. Like Alex Earl probably beats her in views or gets the same. And Alex Earl has seven million followers, which is so crazy that I think Charlie has like 150 million followers and Alex Earl has seven million.

And they get the same views. Like that's just like how it works. But Addison Ray, yeah, like she like popped off so much during 2020 pandemic. Really out of that whole crew besides the Demilio, she's really the only one that's like super relevant these days wouldn't you say yeah right yeah you're talking about addison yeah i think she kind of stayed relevant for kind of sad reasons like her dad went kind of crazy and that's true you know her mom went on a day with then no that was that was not real i mean but it was like no what was his name that uh young gravy young gravy yeah yeah it's just you so

This just so fine. Even if it was just for media and press, like it's, it's her mom, you know. No, they didn't. It wasn't creepy like that. No, I don't think it was creepy. Like, I think it was just like, like, I think her, her family became very fame hungry, like off of her. Was my impression. That's got to be hard. It's got to be tough. But I feel like the D'amilia's parents are like super famous too. Like she's out there doing like crazy photo shoots in a bikini. Yeah. I mean, I have the same opinions about. I don't know who am I to say but like it seems like I love her parents yeah the D'emillo's parents yeah I love them I just think generally speaking it seems like the internet has not been good for Charlie or Dixie like mentally like I just watched them like being in the creator space and I'm like I feel like mentally y'all are struggling I know they're such babies but that's how old I was

I know stick around this is what happened to you but honestly I think that TikTok is way more vicious than what you went through. Like I think from a just mental standpoint, I think it's harder than any other platform. I don't know. You have to think about the fact that YouTube was the only platform. It's where everybody's eyes were. Yeah, but I also think it was so early that people still had some

sense of morality to them in the way that they would comment and stuff. Like it got progressively more vicious. There was an era or a time when we when we first started making video that the, the, um, what am I saying?

It was so difficult to make and produce videos that no one can ever make responses. Like the barrier to entry was so hard and high to start your own channel and make your own videos. Now it's like you pull out your phone, you make a TikTok and you can reply to anyone. And it's like so easy and everybody has the editing app on their phone. So like there wasn't a lot of videos being made about YouTubers. Yeah. Does that make sense?

No, I do. I wonder what you think, because like you have been through the whole cycle of like creating content, kind of like hitting a peak and then like, you know, seeing, oh, now I have kids and like what did that do for my mental health? What do you, what's your prediction on like the next five years for where some of these like TikTokers end up? Like, do you think that they will burn out? do you think that it's such an authentic platform that it's like not a hard workload for them?

Like what do you think is going to happen in the next five years? Like where's Alex Earl going to be in five years? Or Addison Ray? I mean, I think Addison Ray is at this like pivotal moment in her career because of this bop. She really hasn't put on any like music that's been like that good to be honest. But I do feel like she's curating this brand for herself, whether I think it's appropriate for a 23 year old or not has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. I'm just saying she's doing. something right and it's like she's creating like a brand like I don't know and it's like without

putting her name all over this and I know she had her cosmetics brand but she like I think shut that down it was at Sephora yeah shut that down um I feel like the demilios are all over the place that to me when I think about them I just think of sales I think of money I think of uh taking advantage like I don't feel like I don't feel like they're like creating like an art or a brand for themselves and so to me I actually feel like the demilios will die out pretty soon Like I think other people will come in and take their place. And Addison, I feel like I don't know where she's going to go. And I think what she's doing is a lot harder, to be honest,

because she might just like go this whole direction and it might not work out for her. But if she figures it out, I think she could be like huge. Interesting. Wow, what a dark horse. Yeah, Addison. Yeah, because I was like. But I don't know if it's like so strategic. I think that she took a step back probably for her mental health and probably like,

I don't know. I just feel like she's more of like a creative, like visionary. Like she isn't going to just do things because she's going to like make money or whatever. Like she's like, she's like leads with her feelings. And I feel like the demilios are so like logical and strategic and smart. Yeah. That it almost like hinders them because they do things that are just so like like this popcorn brand or like the collections that they do with some of their clothing. I was like, this is just so like not y'all. I wish you would have like stuck with who you were. and like your heart and like created things that you were really passionate about like it's so obvious to me like you're launching a popcorn brand that just is so like to me just take a dime like you're just trying

to make money right I mean am I wrong no the popcorn is what did me into the popcorn the shoes the clothing line like it's just too much and it would be the same thing I think people would feel the same way about like Alex are launching her podcast and going in that direction was like such a smart decision for me or for her I think because I think she's like curating her brand like really well and like you still are getting to know her along the way same with a call her daddy like I think she's doing a really good job with that and then you have these other people that feel like they have to take it take advantage of the moment like the demilias and I just don't think that it'll be relevant so I don't I think it just depends on on the long game for a lot of these people you know who the common thread between Alex Cooper and

Alex Earl is Kay Bailey Kate Bailey the best probably one of the best public publicist in the business. Yeah. Next to Tree Pain. Well, Cheapain, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

The girl's unreal. We should have Kate Bailey on the podcast. Oh my gosh. No, she couldn't, she wouldn't be able to talk about anybody. She's like so. I don't know.

She seems. Lock live. This is the, have you heard this song? It's, it's like hard for me to get into because it's a 23-year-old singing it. Can we put Kate Bailey on the podcast?

Yeah, this is Bob. It's good. She mailed it. Hey. Okay, that's enough. It gives me Mariah Carey vibe. You know what you should do.

And Sabrina Carpenter a couple of her songs, I really like. You should do your thing where you look up who the co-writes on the song are. Oh, yeah. What if it's like Alison Ray wrote it? I mean, honestly, the lyrics are not anything like revolutionary. They're like, listen to my innocence in the backseat. I like when you look at my booty and my jeans. Like, it's nothing like that deep.

But I will tell you. who the co-writes on the song are. Okay. Luca closer and Elvira. Wow, I can't even. Elvira and or Fajard. How many is basically what I'm asking? Three.

That's not bad. And Addison Ray is on there. Luca closer, let's just see. I like to see who these people have also. Luca closer songs. Okay. So he writes for our. Leonardo, Tate McCray, Addison Ray, Conan Gray.

Wait, it's just like all rhyming people. Yeah, he's written like a lot of things. So that's always interesting. Or it's a girl, sorry. Oh yeah, she's like an artist herself. So anyway. Is that the pod? Well, we didn't get into any of our segments.

Ah. Oh, wait, I do want to talk about one thing. Danny's very pro-sneeks. No, okay. She's the only one of the entire internet that's pro-snex. Hold on. I want to transition in the things that make you go, hmm, because I have a fashion topic that will really put your brain to work.

Okay. I was scrolling through Instagram and I follow the founder of Spanx terribly like pretty religiously. She has a luxury hybrid stiletto brand. She just launched called snakes. They really are like a hybrid between like sneakers and high heels. and this whole story that she put out, it looks like she went out for years

and was like studying like the physics of like the human heel and the high heels and the 29 inch incline or whatever. And so she launched sneaks, which is like a brand that now is, you know, addressing the pain points, no pun intended, of heels. But it's like, it's a sneaker and a heel all in one.

Which like, I think we've all thought about it for. Like I feel like we even saw some iterations of like the sneaker wedge heel. Like I think that or no, it was like a booty. Yeah, it was like a booty slash sneaker slash heel wedge heel that like some of the girls, like I think I had a pair. I'm not going to lie. So at first I was like, okay, all the working girls are going to go crazy over these heels. And then I go to the comments and people are like, oh my God, these are so ugly.

They're $500. Some of them are $500. Also like I think people. because she created Spanx, a billion-dollar brand. People were really excited for like the next thing she was going to do. She has like a lot of weight on her shoulder. She's a, she's a genius. So I don't know.

Like I just feel like I have a hot take. I am obsessed with them. Yeah. Maybe it's because I'm getting older. And I'm like, I could see myself one day wearing those. I wouldn't necessarily wear them now. And I feel like the iteration, like they could do some really cool things with the design. and people think the design is so ugly.

But like the black pair is like not horrible. Okay. Like especially if I was a working girl and like I had to go to like I was working in an office building and had to wear like slacks every day. But in like a pair of heels, I'd much rather wear those than like a pair of lubitans. Like lubitins are like thousands of dollars too. People spend so much money on their heels. And if you're, it's something you're wearing every day for work, $500.

Yes, it's an investment. But if you're going to wear it for years to come, which is why people invest in designer heels in the first place. I'm like, it kind of makes sense. I could totally see, like, news anchor hosts wearing them, people that work on TV, have long hours, they're walking on office buildings, teachers. Like, I'm kind of for the sneaks. And so, yeah, okay, Gen C, you don't like it. Millennials, some of you all think it's ugly. But what about the boomers? Like, what about, like, people like my mom's age? Like, my mom would totally wear those. And I feel like she would, like, cute in them with, like, a pair of joggers or something. So I, I,

I really trust your opinion on this topic. And you rolled over in bed and showed me that. And you were like very passionate. You were like, this woman is a genius. Yeah, because I think that what she tapped into. I mean,

Spanx weren't created for Gen Z people anyway. It was created for, spanks were created for like women like 30 plus. Well, and she was like, she tells her story of like, she went to so many co-mans to try and manufacture Spanx

and all of them kind of laughed at her and were like, this is stupid. This is what pantyhose are for. And she was like, no, like this is different. So she's kind of used to being laughed at on the front end. Yeah, I love it. And that's kind of why, like, I trust her too, is that I think she's very good at like

clickbaiting something that no one understands right now. Yeah. But you also did acknowledge this. And I'm curious, like, I want to talk about this. You said, I think where she went wrong was price. Because everyone is like, they're $395. Like, who would pay $395? But here's my take on that is that if you go cheap, then you're basically

categorized with Skechers too soon. If you go high price point over time, you can always lower your price point. No, I think 395 was the perfect price. There are some that are 500 or 600. That's what I thought. I think that's what I was referring to. I think 395 was like 350 could have been perfect. That's still expensive though for a shoe. Yeah? Or for like how much are heels? I mean, it depends. But you know, you go designer, you're getting into the thousands. And then you go to Nordstrom and you find like a good pair for 150. You know, you can get. get a pair from Target for 40. So you're acknowledging that she priced it a little bit more premium, which you appreciate because then it kind of like establishes it as more of like a

status. It looks like something you could have for five years, like 10 years. Like honestly, it looks like something that is not going. It's an investment, but it makes sense. We should have her on the pot too. And it makes sense because it looks like they put so much thought into the creation of the shoe. It does it. What I love about the $3.95 price. is psychologically, it's like you can try to knock it off, but they're not going to feel the same as sneaks. It's like when you invest in a running pair of shoes, like, you know, Walmart can knock off on clouds all they want.

They can knock off hokas. But were they really created with the same like thought process and like the arches and the cushion and the weight of the shoe? Like so, yeah, I would spend $150 to $200 on my running shoes instead of getting them from Walmart for that reason. Yeah. And so, yeah, I feel like that's what you have to do. do in that space.

Well, and she's like very clearly, she worked with that one fashion. I don't know. She like, was like, I worked with all these Italian designers. No, no, no, no. Like the, she put it, uh, Camilla. Oh, oh, yeah. Well, then her first post on her page was with Camilla Colho. Yeah, which is very clear she's trying to make it like high fashion and then probably go like

lower. Yeah. That's a great strategy. Yeah. You know what? We should have her on the pod and have her de-influence this new idea that she has. She kind of seemed like a quirky gal. Oh, I bet she's, yeah.

Yeah, you know, sometimes these billionaires, they get kind of weird. Well, her husband, do you know who her husband is? No. Her husband's a guy named Jesse Isker, and he founded a really popular coconut water brand Vivo or something. Oh, yeah, yeah. So he's a founder too, but he's a very quirky guy. So why he, one thing that he did, was you know that David Goggins guy that is a

well so he's like a Navy SEAL and he wrote the book that a lot of guys read that's like you can't break me or something it's a very popular book but he's like the guy who wait is that where you're like supposed to like endure the pain yes that is so funny I literally thought about that when we were getting our foot massages last night I was like Danny I was like trying to get my mindset into like the Navy like the Marines and be like endure the pain so it was so painful this is a really interesting story so David Gaggins is like huge now. If any wife listening to this,

ask their husbands, he wrote a book called, let me see. What is David Gagins' book? His book is called Can't Hurt Me. And it's basically like all about like this guy's crazy. Like he ran like a marathon with like broken ankles and just crazy Navy SEAL guy. Well,

anyway, he was not famous. And Jesse, uh, Isker wrote this book called Living with a Seal, okay? And he never named who the seal was in the book. But basically, you know, they live at Sarah Blakely and her husband live in this like high-rise Manhattan penthouse or something.

And he had a Navy SEAL come live with him for 90 days. And the Navy SEAL agreed and was like, hey, I will live with you if you do everything that I say to train you. And they would just. And train in what way? Like just endurance, mental mindset. that everything, you know, so they would like, he would wake him up at like three in the morning and be like, hey, we're going for a 20 mile run.

No. And the book is all about this. And this is Sarah Blakely's husband. But as he's running his company? Yes. And so he would run into, the book is like, talks about like he would run into board meetings because he would run from the place to the board meeting and come in like all sweaty, fall asleep in board meetings because this guy pushed him so hard.

Well, anyway, this guy did not want his identity revealed. at the time and then it came out and now it's Dave and Gagins and he's one of the biggest motivational speakers but he started by training Jesse that's an interesting story I know I kind of want that it's a really short book any Navy sales want to come live with me no it sounded horrible it sounded truly horrible or maybe a life coach yeah but the other thing only on the weekends the other thing that her husband's come out with is he has this uh it's it's literally called a big ass calendar oh yeah oh that That's her husband.

Yeah, it's a giant calendar that has every day of the year plotted out. So that you can like really see how every day matters in your year. And I, yeah. Oh, I put it in the, the dating awesome. Yeah, I don't think you use it. Yeah, no one uses it. Oops. Yeah, it's cool.

Well, maybe that's good feedback for him. Yeah, they're quirky though. We should definitely hang out with them or talk to them. I love a quirky person. Should I go into the next topic that makes us go, hmm? Yeah, let's go. Let's roll. So Surgeon General warns parents are so stressed they can't function.

Did you see that like a warning that came out from the like from general surgeon like about like, have you seen this? No. Okay. So according to an advisory put out by the by the Surgeon General American parents are overwhelmed and burned out with how fast paced the world is moving that it has become a health concern. Like they actually like made it like a health concern like careful if you become parents like you will be stressed. interesting so wait just like the pace of having kids and the surgeon general vivick murthy says american parents can

barely function due to suffering from stress money woes and loneliness in connection with this they say parents mental health conditions have exacerbated and there are concerns it's going to help children it's going to hinder children's development according to the report 33% of parents report high levels of stress in the past month 48% of parents say that most days their stress is completely overwhelming and 65% of parents said they're lonely. The surgeon general says it's an urgent public health issue and is calling for a cultural shift. What, like stop having children? He suggests a national paid family and maternity leave.

You should also do a pregnancy leave. That's child care assistance. Still your best idea. Child care assistance through tax credits and subsidies, universal preschool and poverty reduction programs. What are your thoughts on this? It seems kind of vague. I feel like the way that they worded it, like when I actually saw it, was more like, it was kind of like stop having children, was the vibe I was getting.

Interesting. Which like, yeah, I mean, it is hard. Let's be real. I will say this, like, so we were, one of my hobbies in life is to just drive around and look at houses. And I love to get on Redfin and Zello. And sometimes if I'm just feeling lonely, I'll just go get in the car and, like, drive by open houses and just look at the architecture or whatever. Well, I was, like, driving out by some neighborhoods

that are probably, like, a 40-minute drive to Dallas. And, I mean, these houses are so expensive. And they're, like, almost an hour outside the city, maybe an hour outside. Like, with traffic, probably an hour and a half. Like, it's really discouraging how extensive things are right now. So I feel for appearance. Yeah.

And then they have to buy, like, and then you buy an hour away, and then you have to commute every. Like, it's a lot. No, I agree. It doesn't feel sustainable. It doesn't feel sustainable, but I think it's still worth it. To have children. I think anyone who has children would say the same thing.

Yeah. All I have to say is be nice to your parent friends. Yeah, I mean. They're going through a lot. I have become so much, like I'm so less judgmental after having kids. Like I just I will see someone like at the grocery store or restaurant who has kids and their kids are throwing a fit and acting a fool and you're like I'm like I'm like God bless them. I love them. You know like they're trying their best or like people who get mad when babies or kids like act up on planes. I'm like you don't get it. I'm like just be there for the person. Yeah just be there for them. Like we're all trying. Yeah it is so stressful. I mean that's how I feel when I leave the house with both of them like. It's so, it's stressful. But it's worth it.

Yeah. Anyway. That's a pretty vague report from the Surgeon General. We've been recording for a hot minute, but we want to wrap up this episode with a little bit of a teaser. We've been doing this podcast for about a year. And it is actually half of our children's playroom. It's time for a little bit of an upgrade. It's been so fun figuring out how the heck to do this and getting to create content in a longer format for you guys.

But just like our family, we've evolved and grown, so it's time for some exciting things to happen with de-influenced. We're going to be taking a break for a week. So there'll be no new episode next week, but we will be back and better than ever on September 19th. Mark your calendars, everybody. September 19th, definitely follow us on socials at de-influence podcasts for sneak peek of what we're cooking up. Lastly, we just want to thank you guys for going on this journey with us for over a year and a half and supporting de-influence weekend. week out. Make sure you're following us on Spotify, Apple, and wink, wink, YouTube at Deimpliance Podcast. It really has been fun because when we first launched this podcast, we were like, we don't know if we're actually going to keep doing this. We did like a limited series. And I think it's become like probably our favorite format of content. Favorite medium.

100%. Um, and we've enjoyed it so much. And so we have just felt like, I always like to tip tiptoe into things and I don't want to like just dive in like head first. And so when I try it out, That's why we set up in our kids' playroom. And now we're like, okay, we love this. We're having fun with it. Like, we want to take it to the next level. So stay tuned because we're stepping it up. September 19th, baby.

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