De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - Maybe We Shouldn’t Have Said That…

Episode Date: October 2, 2026

This week, Dani and Jordan are questioning whether being too unfiltered on the podcast is finally catching up with them. Jordan issues an apology after his Alix Earle/Braxton Berrios “source” turns out to be… not so reliable, and they get into the weird reality of sharing honest opinions when the people you’re talking about might actually hear them. Plus, Dani recaps the Chiefs game with Brittany Mahomes, meeting Lainey Wilson, and the constant mom struggle of deciding what to say yes to. Then Jordan takes SIX personality tests, feeds the results to AI, and discovers the “primal loop” driving basically everything he does. Naturally, that sends them down a full AI rabbit hole involving therapy, data centers, almond milk, Google’s future, and whether robots are about to take over. Just a normal week on De-Influenced. Thank you to our sponsors: Cash App: Download Cash App today and make your money work for you. Visit our link in bio. Cotton: Cotton is The Fabric of Our Lives. Direct listeners to check the tag for cotton. Learn more at TheFabricOfOurLives.com Little Spoon: Give them meals + snacks that are actually right for where kids are developmentally—balanced, intentional and made to support real growth. Go to https://littlespoon.com/DANI and enter code DANI for 30% off your first order. Vionic: Use code DEINFLUENCED at checkout for 15% off your entire order at www.vionicshoes.com when you log into your account. 1 time use only. Vionic Shoes. Wearable well-being for your feet. @Vote: Use the links in my show notes to check your registration, get registered, or receive election reminders. Check Your Registration - https://tools.vote.online/embeds/check-your-registration?partnerId=c3b53a3d Get Election Reminders - https://tools.vote.online/embeds/get-election-reminders?partnerId=c3b53a3d Register To Vote - https://tools.vote.online/embeds/register-to-vote?partnerId=c3b53a3d Pledge To Register - https://tools.vote.online/embeds/pledge-to-register?partnerId=c3b53a3d Seed: Make gut health part of your routine. Get 25% off now with code 25DANI at seed.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast. De-influenced. It's one of those episodes where Danny's like, I don't even know what I'm going to talk about. No, I'm prepared. Sometimes I just feel like this podcast is bad for my brand. It's like a little too real. No, I feel that for my brand.

I don't even have a brand. You know what? Have you noticed anything different about me lately? No. Nothing? Your nails? No. No, I don't know.

What, no. I haven't been wearing my wedding ring. What? You know why? Ever since you joined that new gem. Honestly, yes, because I've always worked out with my ring on. And we do all these kettlebell stuff. And remember last time I was doing kettlebells?

I ruined my ring and I had to get it sent back. Yeah. And so now I'm like, like, so I was doing kettlebell stuff and I was like kind of felt like it just like, I don't know, like something's going. Yeah, hurt. Yeah. And I was like, why am I wearing this? Like nobody else is wearing a wedding ring. Oh.

So I took it off and like, it's weird. I feel a little naked. I know. Nobody's been hitting on me. So I still don't know why, but. Maybe it's your very public perception being married to me online. No, because, you know, most people don't, don't know. I'm just an average gal.

True. You know, we're just walking through the streets of Nashville just like, I fit right in, you know? I get it. But yeah, so I took that off and it has felt a little weird, but like, I don't know. Sometimes I think about it. I'm like, what's worse? Like, you know, like me wearing it and maybe messing it up or just me not wearing it and losing it. Like, it's more likely for me to just lose it all together and not wearing it.

So, like, I'd rather wear it and bend it. Yeah. But, yeah, so I'm trying this out. Maybe I'll get one of those, like, white rubber. ones. That's what, we did a, I don't know why we did this, but there was like a poll in the Bible study that I go to. And everyone was like, do you take off your wedding ring? And 80, 85% had the silicon bands. Because they believed it wasn't right to take off your wedding ring. Oh my. Okay. That's a little hardcore. Well, I mean, it's a good group of guys. What can I say?

It's a great, a bunch of gold retrievers. But it's like, I mean, I guess if, You have a problem. Like, you struggle with that. But it's like, me not wearing my wedding wing doesn't, like I don't act any different. No.

It doesn't even go through where I'm lying. I think it's more, I think for, um, for the guys at the gym, it's like, what are you, what message are you conveying,

right? So it's more like, it's so funny that y'all are so concerned. Like, the last thing I'm thinking about is a man at the gym. Like I'm at the gym and I'm like, what am I going to do today? I'm like,

what am I wearing to the event later? Yeah, for sure. And all these men always think that we're thinking about them. For sure. And I'm like, guys, you didn't even cross my mind. I didn't even check your hand to see it. Like, didn't even think, didn't think about it.

I know. Like, honestly, there's a part of me that's like, if someone tries to hit on you, I'm like, honestly, good luck. Good luck. Why do you say it like that? Because I just know, I know you and I know what's probably on your mind. And it's not that, most likely. I'm like, if anyone ever tried to hit on me at the gym.

Like, what am I going to wear to this event? like, like, I gotta pick up my kid from school. Like, the mental load, you gotta break through the mental load. When a man talks to me outside of like the house and you're not around, you know what I say the first sentence I always say is. Something my husband. No, I say, oh, I have four kids. True.

I always have like, I have four kids. I have four kids. So I drive this man. Like people, like, I get so many guys that approach me for the fan. And they're like, they walk up to me. Like, they're going to talk to me. And they're like, man, I just love your car. I'm like, I have four kids.

So I need it. I can't like not. tell people that I have four kids. Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. You're a loyal. I loyal, but you know, they weren't trying to hit on me anyway. It was your car.

It was my car. But I'm just like, yeah, I'm loyal, but like they're like, wasn't trying. Cool. Oh, man. Yeah, so I know I'm feeling a little sleep. Hey, I looked at my calendar and I put red X's on all the days out of town in the next like two weeks. Yeah.

It's 85% of my life. Well, don't you worry because you know what I'm going to be wearing the whole time, this wedding band. Maybe not this one, maybe a silicon one. But I will be wearing it. Yeah, I'll be wearing mine too. So anyone who tries to pray on me while my boo-boos away, I say X. I say X. I say, get what's the?

Get away Satan. No, not Satan. Bishiba. Oh, yeah. I'm like, get away, Bicepa. That's real caller. I'm sure she'll get all the Bible references. She'll probably really be deep in the word.

Well, you know what? Launched today was hairspray. Oh my gosh. Did it really? Yeah, you didn't know. Well, we've been talking about it for like a week is like get it out there. The new way to do launches these days is to like show something for like weeks before you launch it. because we used to do like the really fun drops

where it's like Tuesday, something launches, but it doesn't give people enough time to like learn. Yeah, because every see it out in the wild. Well, everyone's like in their reptilian brain, I feel like on the internet now where it's like, you're not really paying attention.

And so it's hard to like, like I feel like back in the day, if you tease something, people like, I got to go check their stories for this. On the calendar, it's happening. Now there's so much going on that unless you're dairy boy.

I feel like every time she does a pop up, it's like booming. Yeah, she really kills it. She created a great brand. Paige Lorenz. Paige Paul now. Yeah,

they came to Nashville on Friday. I really wanted to go, but it was like the only night that I had with my kids before I started all these trips and all this travel. And, but no, it looked like it was popping.

Yeah. The thing about her, she just, she brings in the cool girls, you know? Yeah, for sure. Like, they're super cool girls.

Like, she's the influencer of the influencers. I agree with that. Yeah. So we launched hairspray. We launched two different ones,

hard hold and soft hold. And we went to, oh, we went to Kansas City, the Chiefs game. Crazy. Such a fun experience. So Divi had a wags glam suite.

So we did the glam for like the wags before. And then we went to the game. And, you know, it's really fun to see Brittany. like watching her a husband out on the football field. You know what she reminds me of when she's watching.

Is that a little like, oh, RAP, Hayden Pantier from Friday Night Lights. Wait, Hayden Panette Tier wasn't in Friday Night Lights, babe. Oh, sorry. I remember the Titans. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry. They're super similar.

Anyone could have mixed it up. Oh, like when she was a little girl. Yeah. Yeah. For Coach Oates. Yeah. Coach Oates. Yeah.

Yeah, because you know how she's like watching. She's like, get out there, boys. That's like so Brady. She's like, Brina's like, let's play some ball. Why aren't we play? Everybody do your job.

And I was like, you're so tiny and so cute like yelling at the boys. Yeah. Like the football players like that. Like it's so, and they're all like massive big men. Yeah.

She's like, get out there, place a ball. Let's score some touchdowns. And I'm like, you're literally that, that cute little girlfriend. Yeah.

So yeah, we had a fun time and then. You know what you left me to do all day? So Danny went to the suite and our friend Summit. I love him. So all of like Patrick's friends are like Texas tech guys. Yeah.

And I'm not all the ones that you met. The ones I met. At the game. I've spoken about the Texas tech crowd. I literally was texting Miles, Ali Hunter's husband. And I told him that I needed to hire an anthropologist to study Texas tech people. Because it is the strongest bond ever. They're like they are.

It is like a DNA. It's genetic. Yeah. You are either born to go to that school or you're not born to go to that school. And obviously I went to Texas. And so they all hung out at tech and they've stayed friends. There's a loyalty to Texas tech people. And it is really a camaraderie built around Coor's Light.

And then also it's built around like kind of this scrappiness where it's like, we're going to take care of each other and somehow we're going to take over the world. but we're going to do it together. I feel that. I feel like it's like the scrappiness like that. And then also like they will always have your back. No. Like you get in any type of like anything you need.

Your tire goes out. You get in trouble on the side of the road. Whatever it is. They will come and they will get your back. So like summits are good friend. He was in our Bible study within Dallas. And so I come down the elevator and we don't get to see each other that much. And we come down the elevator and he's like, it's 10 a.m.

The game's at 7.30. And he's like, all right, man, listen. He goes, you don't drink. drink, you don't gamble, and you don't really watch the NFL. He was like, I think we should just stare each other for all the whole day. And then the other friends came. And I love just hanging out with these guys because they're all so bonded. Like I kind of was like, you know, they were super nice, but like I, I, I, you were kind of like a third wheel.

Yeah, I was like a third wheel to this crew. But it was so fun just to like hang out. Yeah. Where did you all go? We went to the, uh, uh, oh, to get brunch. Yeah. 1887. Yeah, Travis and Patrick's restaurant.

You know what I learned about that restaurant? It's 1587 because they merged their numbers together. Oh, duh. That makes sense. Did you know that? No. I was like, what happened in 1587? I was like, there is something his work old that happened.

Like, I was like, is that the year they started football? Like 15. I had no idea. But yeah, it's their numbers. That's so funny. I was like, well, why isn't it 8715? Well, because he's Yeah, he's top dog.

Okay, okay. He's top dog. Yeah, so that was super fun. And I like being around Brittany because I feel like she, and I love our collab that we did with Divy. And I know a lot of people, I probably covered this last week, but a lot of people ask like, how did that come together? I really like Brittany because, first of all, she's an entrepreneur.

She played, like, professional. Do you know she played professional soccer? I think you told me that. She's like a co-owner of the kids. Kansas City current. Like so she's like big like into like women's sport like supporting other like women in sports. She's also a mom of three. Like our age grabs are very similar. Like all of her kids are like back to back to back. And what I like about her is how like confident she is and how she does not change for anybody. And I like that. Like I want somebody like that to be representing Divi.

To me obviously the motherhood aspect is huge. Like I feel like she always is putting like her kids first, family first. Like she's very hands-on with her kids when, you know, she's in the spotlight a lot. And you could totally just like go one way where you're like, hire all these people. I don't, you know, I'm too busy for that. And I feel like she like really fights for time with her kids. And she like fights to be like so hands-on with them and getting to know her more like you get to see all that. And I just like really respect her. So I've loved with this collab that we did. And it's been really special. I've, I had known her like just through social media. But, Through this, I've gotten to like spend more time with her.

And it's in, wouldn't you agree? Like, whenever you're just like around all these people, they're just so down to earth and normal. Yeah, for sure. I think everyone just like wants to be known outside of whatever it is. Whatever sphere of fame you're in. Exactly. No, I agree.

It's actually like, it's probably pretty lonely. Like, you know, having that much fame and like not being able to go anywhere. Well, I think it's only if you don't have your people. Yeah. you got you have your people. They have really good people around them. And a lot of the people, it seemed like we're our OG people too. Yeah, like it's like people that you're friends with before, you know, you ever do anything. Yeah. And that's why it's so, I'm like not friends with anybody from my school. I know. But I kind of wish I was. Yeah. It was a great time in your life too. But I was like so boy crazy, you know. You had one boyfriend. But I was like, no, but I would like ditch. I had two boyfriends. You cliche and Caleb. But I would ditch my friends to go, hey. out with the boys. So I didn't have good friends because I was a horrible friend because I was boy crazy. Yeah, that's true. You know what I'm saying? That's true. So like I didn't, yeah, I just wasn't. So then I got to college and I was like, I'm going to be the best friend ever.

Yeah. And you did it. And then I did it. And then you're a great friend still to this day. To this day. But yeah, so a lot of people kept asking like, how did this come about? So that's kind of just how it came about. Like I saw her and I liked her. Yeah, not true. I think our team asked me to make a speaking of the NFL our team asked me to make a public apology to Braxton I know you're gonna get in trouble for this I knew it that's why after you said it on the last podcast I stopped you and I said do you know if that's true or not that's not true and you're like yes I have a confirmed source let me tell you something I believed it to my bones it came from my most trustworthy friend and I told him he's no longer my most trustworthy

No, you said that he was like wanting money to like look for a ring because he's like in that stage of his life. No, I did not say that. You're putting words in my mouth. No, you're just making up. You made something up in your head and then you made it. Anyway. So our team. Tell them what happened. Okay. So I, I said in the last podcast that I, I had had a source who told me a year ago that Braxton had a ring for Alex Earl. And I remember it because I remember saying, you have any idea how crazy this information is. And then he kind of backed off a little bit. And so I said it.

I mean, they're broken up. We were talking about the show. And then I was like, oh, yeah, did you know this? And I said, yeah, at one point, Braxton had a ring. So he said on the podcast. And then I knew he was going to get in trouble for that. So I stopped him and gave you a time. I was like, do you really want to say this?

And you're like, yes, I'm doubling down. Yeah, no, I believed it. My ex most trustworthy friend. Okay. And so then our team clipped it and then Braxton responded and said something like, let's not normalize lying on a podcast. Which is so horrible because I've always been pretty bit. I've advocated for him.

I'm a huge fan. I think he's a great dude. He wasn't being mean. He laughed after. He put like laughing faces. Oh, he did? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought he was just like pissed at me.

No, he was like laughing and he was like, hey guys, like this is news to me. let's not normalize lying on podcast. Okay, well, I told our team to take it down and I was like, you know, so I just want to apologize. I then texted my friend, my ex most trustworthy friend. And then he finally told me it was from secondhand source from him. Oh. And he was like, well, I'm sorry. I didn't know you're going to share on a podcast.

So I was like, well, you should have clarified. So you told him that you shared it on a podcast? Yes, I did. You better be careful because people aren't going to tell you stuff anymore. No, I don't want to hear anything from this guy anymore. No, I'm not saying any, but like that guy. I'm saying anyone in general. No one's going to trust you.

They honestly shouldn't. Here's the thing about me. Vault. Yeah, you are. No, if you tell me something or if I see something or if I, even if I see something that I know if I'm sure it's going to put, like put it in a light that's maybe not great. I'm not going there. Unless I don't like you.

You were talking about like, you were talking about this podcast being a liability. And if I was going to go down for something, I would have preferred it be something. like that I say against the government or about aliens or something. But then you'll be locked up. But like, but then for me to to get a slap on the wrists over something pop culture is so lame because it makes me seem like this like gossipy girl that like. And I only talk about the things that you bring up and then I have an opinion about them. And so I'm like, is this podcast really good for my brand? you know, like, is this good for my brand? Because, you know, it was supposed to be like this husband and wife thing.

We were talking about our lives. And then sometimes you do bring us into this like pop culture sphere. And I don't even watch the pop culture. I just like come at it from a human point of view. Like that's why I stopped. Because I was like, I don't think you know how big of a deal this like Braxton Alex thing is on the internet right now. Like it's going to. And you're just saying it because you're like to do to do. And I'm like, no, no, you don't just throw that out there. The other reason I think that I'm becoming a liability or this podcast is becoming a liability is because every year I become progressively more offline. Meaning I don't really know what's going on on the internet. And I'm like not up to date. That's so not true. You are on Twitter every night. That's so different though.

That's different than Instagram and TikTok. You know a lot. TikTok, you girls are mad about something new every single day. And I can't keep up. I think we're mad at Sydney Swinney right now. Okay. Right? You told me that. Am I? Or people are mad at her?

People are mad at her. Some, like, some women are mad at her because they're like, like she's setting women back in female sports, like hundreds of years. But then I'm like, dude, look at cheerleaders. Right, right. Like just. So I'm saying is like, you know, I just need to be careful. I can be careful. You do need to be careful. And I'm sorry, Braxton. I'll look at the camera. I'm sorry, Braxton. I'm sorry, Braxton.

I didn't mean it. I think that was very, like, mature of you to apologize. Well, I'm like her family. I'm team Braxton. No, okay. So this actually happened to the toast recently. So they made a comment about dancing with the stars about how Derek Huff and Julian Huff kind of just, like, own the show. And Derek Huff, they were like, why is the only professional dancer that gets like his own little spot?

Derek Huff and like, why is he dancing in between all this stuff whenever it's like not about him essentially. And then Derek Huff like saw the clip and commented on it. Yeah, it's hard. And they were like, and then they had also said something bad about like, it was one of the investors on Shark Tank, the guy with like the longer. I don't know. They were talking about him and like Derek Huff like defended his friend and defended himself. And Claudia was like, you know, my weenie of the week is is Derek Huff because she was like if you are going to show up in my comments

when you're that famous like I can't do my job like I can't have comments or like opinions or commentary on anything if every single celebrity is going to get offended by every single little thing and she was like what I said about him wasn't even that mean like you know so she doubled down that's the thing about

it is hard because it's like when we're talking I don't know how everyone treats their podcast, but we don't know what we're going to say. We don't know what we're going to talk about. It's a free-flowing conversation. And so we really kind of like, if we say something bad,

we kind of have to trust the process of our team. But it does make it hard when what you're commenting on, like, this is what I really meant by liability. Like, when you're commenting about pop culture stuff, but like these people become your friends

or like your one degree of separation away from them, it kind of makes it hard to do a pop culture podcast. Because you're like, I don't, I don't mean it. She was like, I can't share my honest raw take on things if like people are going to like come for me for everything I say. And she's big now and she probably like

doesn't think about how big her platform is. She's always like, because she also hangs out with like she'll see a lot of celebrities and she's like, it's so hard because like sometimes she runs into somebody that she said stuff about. Yeah. You know, but you, that's why we like it because you want to hear raw and filtered,

you know, just thought. and opinions, but... This is why nothing leaks out of Hollywood. It's like, you don't want to be the person that, like, outs your friend or, like, says this. It's a culture of silence. Yeah. And so the question is, like,

how do we approach it? Do we just... Yeah. Well, we don't really have that many friends. What am I talking about? I was like, um, I think we'll be okay. I think we're fine. Well, um...

But you did say something to me that I really do need... It, I woke me up. do need to be caught more cognizant of this. I think when we record this podcast, I genuinely act and believe that two people listen to it. Yeah, you have a problem. No, but it helps me, I don't want to acknowledge or think about the fact that this has listeners because it take it, that I don't want to like act, you know, I want to be able to just have a conversation with you. And I probably should be more cognizant that my words, have consequences.

Yeah. I'm learning. I'm listening and I'm learning. Speaking of celebrities, I met Lamy Wilson last night. How was she? You know, I was like, I caught myself being pretty bold. Like, I walked, so she was in the room and, like, everybody was, like, following her, like, freaking out.

And I walked out to her and I was like, hey, my name's Danny Austin. Nice to meet you. Thank you so much for having us. Can I get a picture? Is she really, really famous? And then she, like, hung around. after the picture. I kind of expected her because what I've learned about like celebrities in events, like they are there to take pictures. They are there to promote their product to get videos.

Like so to me, it's not uncomfortable or hard for me. I'm like, they're coming to this press event. They invited me because they want to get content. So I just like take the opportunity now. I'm just like, I'll just go for it. But I don't necessarily expect her to hang around, ask me questions, like become friends, you know? And she just hung up. around and we talked I she's you know she's an LSU girl so I was like I was like oh yeah what about that game were you at the Ole Miss game I was like oh what did you think oh yeah I was like what did you I was like what did you say she was she said she said you said you know she said I had some secondhand embarrassment for Lane Kiffin and she goes oh major secondhand embarrassment

oh she doesn't like I love him do she doesn't love him because oh because you know when they when Ole Miss and like all those like clips of them like running by like looking at him like yeah oh it's so. epic. Like if I was an Ole Miss fan, I would just be like, hey, hey. Like, it would be so fun to be an Ole Miss fan. But I agree with you. You know, I actually have been to like a lot of LSU stuff because of Logan Talbert. Yeah. They're like big LSU fans. So I'm like, I would root for LSU over Ole Miss. But because you just love him as a villain and I love him too. I love him as a villain. Yeah. I was the best. I couldn't tell if I wanted it was like, it was just

for Ole Miss to win. But like I kind of, it really took away some of his villain for me. He's too human now. But the argument is that like, okay, you beat Lane Kiffin with the team that he built. You could make that argument.

Like, yeah, but it doesn't matter because it's the same coach, like who worked underneath them. Doesn't matter. Because all it matters is if you win. I know, I know.

I know. I'm just trying to preserve them in my mind as a building. Yeah. Oh, talk about the football game that cheese game we went to too. I mean, might be a chiefs fan now. Randy Mahomes is sending me all of her

like all of the like she's doing like a couture line or something with the chief stuff and I'm like honestly they have cute of colors. And now I feel like I have like a tie to Kansas City in some way. Nobody from the Cowboys has ever reached out to me. I don't know anybody on the Cowboys. I don't know anything

about them. But yeah so I met Laney. She was super sweet. Super down to earth. what else have I done I'm going to meet a couple more people and I go to Malibu tomorrow with Brittany you're coming to Yes

I have been quite the tag along lately I just like I like just getting away with you though It's so fun But here's the thing because we almost didn't go to Kansas City because of like all the kids and everything happening Aren't you happy that we went? I was actually thinking about that in the car on the way here I was like that was

such a classic example of like, you just go and see what happens. Yeah, it's so classic like, this is why I need a Danny in my life because Danny's like so open to, let's just go, let's see what happens.

Like you're always going to err on the side of yes. And I'm always going to err on the side of no. Yeah. And we just, we're really good at listening to each other now of like when it should be a no and when it should be a yes. Like, for example, there's a lot of things that I cannot go to

because I do need to be with my children, like Lainey Wilson's event was like right after I got home. And I was like, listen, I think this is important. I feel like I should go. I think that I'll see a lot of my Nashville friends. It'd be great to see them. And, you know, just like really take time and try to like put. And Jordan was like, no, you don't need to go.

And I'm so happy that I went. Well, I only said, so just so people don't accuse me of being controlling. I only said, no, you don't need to go whenever you were like, I think I'm going to be too tired. And I was like, oh, you're fine. No, because also, because I was going to miss the kick. Yeah, no, I knew what you were struggling with. It's a constant struggle.

And everybody knows it's not personal. Like, anyone that is the mom understands, it's not, has nothing to do with the event or the brand or whatever. It's just like, it's so hard sometimes when you're like, I'm going out of town anyway. I need to spend time with my children. I should not be going to this event. But I went for like an hour and a half. Like, it was like, good. And then I got home.

We played with the kids. I said this to you. Like, I feel like, I trust your discernment so much lately. I've always trusted your discernment, but lately I feel like you're walking this line of how much, what do I say yes to? What do I say no to? And I just feel like you're making really good discerning decisions around it. It's not too much in one way. It's not too much in the other way. And we've had to, I mean, you've had to learn, we've had to learn this balance for years as we've had more kids. But I'm just like, that's why when you were like, I'm going to go. I was like, trust you. Go, girlfriend. Yeah. I just, you've done really good. You know what it is?

Thank you, babe. It's that imported machine. I just can't get, I can't wait to get back to it. I ordered a new USB because I still am. It's holding me back, these files, right?

These files, but I ordered it last night. So we're excited for that. So I'm really excited for that. I want to, um, I wanted to like embroider something for all of the influencers that are coming to our Malibu event.

That's a lot of work. I know. But, and I'm leaving. my morning. Oh my gosh. Speaking of which I got home. So the way I work with my stylist is like she comes in, she flies in from Dallas and we style like the next like 10 events that I have. So it could be like three months out. So you know how fall is. Fall is just like so busy. And like, but especially with hairspray launching, it was like for this commercial, for this this, for this, whatever. So I had,

I have all my outfits picked out. And when I got home last night to pass, because we're going to Malibu, we're doing this big influencer event with Brittany. The dress I was going to wear had like makeup all over it, which I was a little confused because I don't usually try on my dresses with makeup. I only know because like I look horrible. Whenever I shot my dresses, it's like right when I like got home from a workout or whatever. Anyway, so I tried to get it out. It's dry clean only.

I ruin the dress. And it's, I do have a backup option. The backup option is just like it's an Amazon dress. But it's just, you know, my area that's always hard is like my pudge. And I'm also like about to start my period. So I'm like really, really bloated. And that Amazon dress just doesn't really do me any favors in that belly area. So we went around.

I went around Nashville this morning to four different dry cleaners. And they're so rude too. But I'm like, can somebody can you? I was like, I'll pay $200 extra to expedite this dry cleaning. can you have it ready by tomorrow at 10.30? And everybody was like, no, nope, can't do it. Can't do it. Like, I drove around for probably an hour. The whole thing probably took two hours.

Because then I asked my nanny, whenever, when I went to my work at class, I was like, can you just try to drop this off to? She went to like three places to, nobody would take it. So I was like, you know what? I'm just going to try this one place, kind of a whole, like a hole in the wall by our house. And they agreed to take it. But I had to pick it up tomorrow at 11, our flight site 1245. Oh, that'll be fun.

Yeah, so we're going to have to carry everything on just, you know. Yeah. Okay. Isn't that just so stressful? What you just said? Yeah, like, I almost didn't have something to wear. That sounds horrible. I know.

It's, wow. Babe, you don't understand. This is at Nobu. I get it. Like, what would I wear? That's green? I don't have anything. It's horrible, babe.

I'm so sorry. What are you going to wear? I haven't thought about it. That's kind of what's going through my mind right now. Because I was not... Yeah, I just want to be prepared for this one. Yeah. Prepared, how are you prepared?

We leave like tomorrow morning. No, I know. I got to think about it. And there's no suit supply in Nashville. That's tough on me. Yeah. There's a Buck Mason. Am I a Buck Mason guy?

I don't think that's fancy enough. Well, the dudes there are like... They're fresh. I mean, like, the dudes who work there, I'm like, How did you even put this thing together, this ensemble? And they look at me because I always go in there to get coffee. Yeah, they've got coffee.

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shirts are too small and if i'm already replacing clothes because of our kids growing like weeds i don't want to replace things because they didn't hold up so i've become very much a buy it nice or buy it twice person one of the things i started to look for is cotton because cotton is durable it's easy to take care of and it's super long-lasting and durability is probably the biggest thing for me right now because Our kids are so hard on their clothes. They're wearing them to school, playing outside, and them getting food all over them, and I'm washing them, and they're wearing them all over again. And now that we're getting into fall, I feel like cotton is everywhere in the pieces I actually want to buy.

Denim, long-sleeved teas, jackets, all of these staples that you can wear over and over. But the other thing I've started paying more attention to is just what our clothes are actually made of. Cotton is a natural fiber that comes from the earth. And as a mom, I've become so much more aware of the materials that are touching my skin all day long, especially when you're dealing with sensitive skin in your family. You start thinking about those things differently. Yeah, I think that's probably the biggest shift for both of us. Before kids, I don't think I ever looked at clothing tag unless I could throw something in the dryer.

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You'll never guess it. Let me just tell you. This is absolutely doing with fitness or health. A dextas scan? No, I did a dexter scan. But no, I did. So we're doing a lot of hiring right now for Divi. Okay.

And hiring is really hard, especially like once you get to like the sea level. because you have to kind of round out your strengths. And so I had this idea. I was like, man, you know, I really want this to be successful. And the other thing about hiring that's really hard is, you know,

an interview is always going to be the best form of someone, right? So it's really hard to understand, like, who, once you get past the honeymoon phase, like what is working with this and partnering with this person really going to love? like, you know, look like, right? So what I did, are you listening to me? Yes.

What did I just say? I'm listening. What are you laughing at? I'm not laughing. I just got a text. What did it say? Nothing. Is it bad?

No. Is it about me? No. No, keep going. What is it? I can't focus now. So, so I thought you, you know, what I'm saying is that,

it's hard to like know someone, you know, in the honeymoon phase of like interviewing them because everyone's putting their best foot forward. Like we're putting our best foot forward. They're putting their best foot forward. You really only hear the good. You don't hear the bad, right? Mm-hmm.

So what I did was I took seven different personality tests. Really? When? Just an afternoon. I took seven different personality tests. Principal personality you, strengths finder. This one called the IMP5. 500, the Enneagram, the Myers-Briggs. Oh, I want to hear all about you.

And I uploaded all of my results to Claude. Oh, gosh. Yeah. It's genius, right? Yeah. And so basically now I've created this like executive coach for myself based on all of my strengths and weaknesses. Because all these different tests, they will not just get into like your tactical

strengths. It's also like how prone... Did you have to pay for these tests? Yeah, they were like, like $50 or something. But the value is limitless. Yeah, this is last you forever. Until AI takes over. So do you want to hear about some of my personality?

You can tell me if I was right in how I assessed myself. Do you want to hear? Yeah, I'm here. Okay. Tell me, I'm going to read you these one at a time. You say yes or no. Drives hardest when they... there's a standard to hit and sets the standard.

Wait, I want to hear the labels first. Like, what are you in each of these things? Oh, okay. Well, I can, I don't have them in front of me, but I can tell you I'm very high on conscious, conscientiousness. Conscientiousness. So like thoughtfulness and judgment. I was pretty high on judgment. Super high on anxiety.

Oh, great. Super high. Okay. Attention to detail was like pretty like mid to high. Okay. So funny because you like don't pay attention to detail at our house. No, I don't, not in our house, but like in a working setting. Let me just ask it to summarize.

Well, I want to know, like, are you the INFJ? On Myers-Briggs, I'm an INFJ on N-FJ on N-Gram. Enigram. I'm one. Pretty hardcore one. Really? Yeah. I've always didn't think you're one.

What did you think I was? A two. Give me a summary of my personality labels. I think if you're really true to yourself, you'd be a two. I think a one wing two. No, for sure. You're not a one wing nine. No.

So here's the labels that I carry. Jordan is actually a little bit more like, if he sees something like weird or uncomfortable in public, like he will make a face and be like, what are you doing? If I see something weird or uncomfortable in public, I'll be like, oh, it's great. It's great. Like, I'm just like, I don't want to waffle any feathers.

I'm like, everybody, you do you. If that's how you want to live your life. But Jordan will, like, say something. And he'll be like, that's weird. Why are they doing that? And then, like, not care if somebody is, like, paying attention or not. Yeah. So here's some of the labels as you ask them.

Okay. So on the enegram, I'm a one. See, Claw. I always thought I was an INFJ, but Claude relabeled me. An I and T.J. Introvert? I don't. Probably neurotic.

T, I don't know what stands for. But basically, you said INFJ, but your low openness, I'm not very open to new things. I'm not open at all. Is this in a working capacity? is this in life? Is this in, you know, I feel like... I took it like all pretty broadly. Like I thought about context of like personal... Wait, let's just talk about the fact that you took like eight personality tests. That has to describe your personality in and of itself. No, right. That's a one. That's an eagram one. Okay. Because the way that like when you told me that, that you were like, I took eight personality tests. I'm like, nobody's going to tell me who I am. Like I don't need a test to tell me what I am. That's because you're a three wing four. Danny's perpetually.

misunderstood. Less or so these days, but like, it used to be like, oh, just no one understands me. That's why I like NF's rap so much. Yeah. Like, I'm just so angry at the world. So INTJ is called

the architect. You take in the world through logic and systems aside from the head more than the gut. Oh, that is so you so logical. Like, you take all these tests and upload it to an AI thing. Like, that is you. That is logical. That is reasoning. That is like head before.

hard. And prefer a planned closed loop over an open-ended one. Oh, I'm an open-ended girl. I'm like, let's just show up, see what happens. Jordan is like, I want to know exactly what we're doing when we're good there. Where are we going to stay? And I'm like, baby, let's let the wait. Like, just let it open. Be open.

On the big five archetype, I'm the driven sentinel. Driven equals the relentless achievement engine. Sentinel equals always scanning for what could go wrong. Together, a high achiever standing guard, which is exactly what it feels like from the inside. So what I feel every day. On the principles you,

I'm an orchestrator. You naturally arrange people, resources. You want to be friends with Jordan because he plans everything. When we have a house, we will have so many like get-togethers at our house because Jordan will be thinking for the next four weeks, like what are we doing? And

so like we go on a trip, Jordan is planning everything. We go anywhere at Jordan knows like the park where we're going to park, blah, blah. And I'm like, we'll Uber and figure it out. Yeah. But you're Your way of life works too. Sometimes I want to adopt it. So you naturally arrange people, resources, and moving parts into a working system.

You see the whole board and organize it. On the Clifton Strengths Finder test, I'm executing domain leader of the four leadership domains, executing, influencing, relationship building, strategic thinking. You lead firmly. So you're like a CEO. You'd be a good CEO. Yeah. Okay.

So here's the interesting one. Big five ocean tests. conscientiousness, I'm 91st, it's the defining trade, organized, discipline, dependable, achievement, hungry. This is the source of nearly everything people rely on you for. Here's the bad one. Neuroticism. What's that word mean? It says the headline number looks moderate, but it's not.

Most of your personalities carried almost entirely by anxiety. Is that what neurotic means? Yeah, it's like very like always scanning for danger. like kind of, let me see it. Let me look up. Your threat detection systems run super hot under a composed surface,

calm on the outside, vigilant underneath. Neurotic generally means prone to excessive worry, anxiety, self-doubt, or emotional stress, especially over things that other people

might find relatively minor. He gets neurotic about being late. She's neurotic about cleanliness. Yeah. Do you really feel that way? Oh my gosh. I think. You just not express everything you're worried about.

No, that's what it says. Calm on the outside, vigilant underneath. I would say if you lived inside my body on a given day, it's like a constant alarm bells ringing all the time. Okay, let me ask you this. So yesterday I go to that event downtown. Yeah. Okay. So I have an Uber credit that they gave me.

And I'm like, I'm just going to take the Uber. And you're like, no, no, no, I'll drive you and drop you off, which was the opposite way that you were headed. Yeah. Is that offer, like what you're doing? Is that any part of neuroticism? No, I just wanted to spend time with you. And Stratton was going to come with me and I was like, oh, he'll get to see mommy and we'll drop her off and then we'll go to Jason's deli. Oh, really?

Yeah, it was just that. Okay. I always wonder, I'm like, is he worried? Like, I'm going to get kidnapped. No. I don't feel like you're, like, worried about me like that. Or like, is it like, yeah, I don't know. Not to be like mean, but like I would never do that.

where I would drive the opposite way. I know. It just doesn't make any sense. No, I know. That doesn't mean I don't want to hang out with you. You know, like, I still want to hang out with you.

But like, that just doesn't logically make any sense in my brain. I'm like, to me, also driving with you somewhere is not like fun. Like, it's not like we're hanging out. Like it's traffic.

It's like stressful. I'm also stressful driver. Yeah. So like, I'm like, I hate driving with you or riding with you. Oh my gosh. I think I'm going to die every time.

But you don't. I mean. Yeah. Yeah. No, I get it. I mean, trust me. I get it. I would do it if you asked me to, but that just doesn't, like, to me, it's like you want to

ride with me because you think it's going to be fun. I'm like, it's not that fun. No, it's not fun. I just like being around you. That's just fun. It's kind of nice, you know? Yeah. Extraversion, this is why I think these tests are right.

You recharge in private, avoid the spotlight, and don't chase stimulation. Just stimulated No we are very much like the exact opposite I'm like always chasing simulation I'm like I need another caffeine drink I need a massage I need somebody to scream at me The other thing that I think we're very opposite in Is I'm pretty low in terms of self-efficacy

Which is like My belief in my own capability Like I feed a lot on like encouragement From others You had to teach me this skill of like kind of believing in myself. And I've gotten way better at it. Yeah. But we're very opposite because like, I'm like, no one's ever going to believe in me as much as I believe in myself. Yeah. And you also like don't need any words of affirmation. And because you don't, like I think I'm,

I'm always like, like this morning, I had a really hard day yesterday. And I this morning was like, hey, can you just like, hold me? No, I was like, can you just tell me it's going to be a good day. I'm not a failure. And I had to tell you, but I needed that. Yeah. You know? What did I tell you? I said, today's going to be a good day. And you're not going to go to my coffee.

No, I'm kidding. No, I'm kidding. No, I'm kidding. So yeah, I mean, so anyway, I think this, this, everyone should do this. It's very fascinating because you can save a lot of- What tell people what they should do? I don't think they know how to do that. So go and I think the personality test that you should take is the Myers-Briggs,

the Eniogram, the, um, the, the, the Big Five Ocean Test, Principles You, which is Ray Dalios. That's a lot of... Maybe just do the first three. No. Clifton's Strength Finder. And then it's called the... Let me make sure I have it. You know, they say the Nogram is demonic.

The IPIP Neo score. Okay, so that's six tests. You take them. You upload all of your results to Claude. You label the chat therapist or executive coach, depending on how you want to use it. And you just talk it out. It's really like a more...

I'm actually... It's a huge life hack. People could save tens of thousands of dollars on therapy. No. Or what's crazy if you... And if you're... And if you're a small business owner, you should do this so that you hire not to your strengths and people who look just like you, but you hire to round out your opposite. And I think you will build a much more successful business because you'll have people thinking differently than you.

That is so true. You don't want to hire people like you. We did a lot of corporate stuff. And I haven't done this yet. But we did a lot of corporate stuff at Divi where they all took like the Enigram and different personality tests. And so I could take now our whole org chart and import their stuff and I could find out generally how certain people probably have a hard time working together and then you can bring them closer together to be like, hey, listen, you think like this, you think like this, but I need you all to work together. Here's how you're going to do it. Love. It's crazy, right? It's a great, great life hack. The other thing, not to talk about myself too much, but the craziest thing I learned,

is do you know what the primal loop is? No. Okay. So everyone has what's called a primal loop. And it's basically like this loop in your head that is like definitive of everything that you believe about yourself. And that primal loop drives a lot. I read this on Twitter. Drives a lot of, you know, the good habits and the bad habits, right?

So what I learned from this, and you kind of want to deconstruct your primal loop because you probably make a lot of decisions out of of like pride or ego or fear, which is my case. And mine's probably more I make decisions out of ego. Yeah. Right. Like I'm so scared that about like what people are going to think about me. So do you want to know what my primal loop is? Okay.

My primal loop is if I stop, I fall behind. So like that's so you. That's the loop behind everything that I do. And it comes from probably like it usually goes really way. back, like your childhood, something in your formative years. So interesting. Yeah. And so my, because vigilance is so like high, like my nervous system is so like, and this why I'm really glad I'm learning this stuff because Stratton has my nervous system 100%. It's like I feel like I need to protect myself all the time or see ahead because if I don't,

that I'm going to be surprised by something and it'll be my fault that it happened, right? Yeah. And so, you know, it's this idea that every moment I'm not. vigilant, I'm either failing or going to fail or falling behind because someone else is being diligent for me. It's like why I'll listen to podcasts on 3x speed or why I'll read these book. It's all like driven by this thing. That makes a lot of sense. And I was that's definitely how you are, but I bet a lot of people relate. So what's crazy though is I think that like the past three years of you and I's life has been like dealing with patterns and habits and beliefs about ourselves that got us really far in terms of like the world standards,

but probably not as far in terms of like spiritual, like our faith standards. And that loop of like vigilance is very, you know, it contributed to a lot of our success. But like I was talking to like a mentor this morning and I feel like the season of life since we moved here and like even a reason we moved here is like trying to learn. learn how to rest and like even like learn how to like Sabbath or learn how to just like be and deconstruct this idea that like my worth is from my performance. I feel like that's more you. I'm, I'm, I'm talking about myself. I'm talking about myself. Oh, I thought you said we because like I was. No, you've already, you've already, you're ahead of me. Like you've already done it. Like I'm just, I'm being. No for sure. And and um, and so I like woke up, did a workout and went got pizza

a summit like 30 minutes away at like an organic market. Yeah. And so like I'm struggling with this like pretty specific problem in our our life right now. And it's not like bad or anything. It's like more on our business. But I was talking to him about it. He was like, oh, God. No, my mentor this morning. And I was like, I was like, what do you think I should do? And he's like way older and he's gone through a lot of the same stuff. And he was like, have you ever just stopped and been like, okay, God, you have you given us this, this, this, this and this. Like, what do you want to do with? it and I was like, no, I've never asked that question before. Like, because it's always like, I have a plan.

I have an idea. Like, I have a path towards vigilance. And so, like, by being completely driven by this primal loop, I'm like, you're not looking at the bigger picture. Or I'm losing out on, like, maybe what God is, like, trying to give me freedom from. Yeah, that's true. I'm covering the primal loop.

What would you say? So, like, are there other examples of primal loops? What would my primal loop be? That's such a good question. What are some other examples? Are there like only like 10 different primal loops? I can guess mine. Guess yours.

If I stop, is that how they all start? So I can, do you want to read you some examples? If I'm not perfect, I'm worthless. No, I don't need to be perfect. If they really knew me, they leave. No, I feel like deep down. Maybe I'm like a little insecure. like maybe I'm a little too weird if they really knew me.

But sometimes I'm like if you really knew me, you stay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's confident. If I need anyone, I'll be let down. If I need anyone? Yeah.

No, I need people. I'm okay with that. If I'm not in control, something bad happens. That's me. No, I like to just show up. If there's, while we're getting down the list here. If there's conflict, I'm in danger. Am I a part of the conflict or is there just conflict in general?

Okay, this is not you. If I'm not needed, I'll be abandoned. The next one is so you. I don't know. If I'm not needed, I don't feel like I'm, I don't really think I'm ever really needed. I just want to be like,

yeah, okay, go on. This one's pretty you. If I let myself want things, I'll be disappointed. No, I want things. No, no, because I always want things and I'm super optimistic, and you are practically.

You're like, don't celebrate something until it actually happens. But that's not what it's saying. It's saying if I want things, I'm scared I'll be disappointed. I want things. I just don't,

I'm just not unrealistic, but I still want them. Okay. If I stand out, I'll be attacked. That's not you. Okay. What is your thing?

Hold on. I stand out. No. I mean, yeah, but being attacked isn't always the worst thing. Are those all the options?

That was, yeah, that was the example. It was like, but what do you think yours is? That was just the options from this post. There's probably more. If I stop.

I don't think there's like a... People won't care about me anymore. I feel like we read that. Did we not read that? No. Oh, if you stop, people will not care about me. So you're, it's like performance driven. Yeah, like, um, like, or I won't,

I won't like myself because people won't like me. It's like I like myself because people like me. Yeah, that's very like aneagram three for sure. Yeah, you know, it can be worse, I think. Okay, fall shoes are probably one of my favorite things to shop for because I love a cute flat, a sneaker, a boot, all of it. But at this point in my life, I refuse to buy a pair of shoes that I know I'm going to want to take off two hours later. That's why I've been loving Vionic. They make shoes that are actually cute and on trend, but they're also designed with comfort and support in mind so I can wear them through an entire day.

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Here So there's a fact that I've been telling people And getting really opinionated about I've said in like four different settings That are probably Is it like kind of like a hot take? Controversial Yeah I said it at it

I'll give you a hint I said it like our The parents we met at Stella school I said it at their house The parents that we met Okay I said it in the the coffee line yesterday in the Kansas City airport.

Okay. It's like a test of if you listen to me. Wait, when you say the parents, it's like the play date that I set up? Yes. And I went to their house. Okay. Those are the two main instances. I think I've said it.

And I think I said it to Olivia and Landon. When you were in the coffee line, did you say it to me? No, I said it to our friends. Miranda. Does that have to do with Nashville versus Dallas? No, it's about a nut. Oh. That almond milk is taking off.

all of the power. Yes. I've been very... Have you not shared this yet? No, I haven't shared it. We talked about, so the reason I bring it up is because you remember we were talking about Aaron Brockovich, the one who's discovered like the cancer in the water or whatever. Yeah. So then she is now her big thing is like water and data centers. Yeah, but if you listen to her podcast, it's hard to get the facts out. Well, she wrote a book, and I was going to read, I've read just a little bit of it. And it's called Superman's Not Coming. And she basically... Let me ask you this. Do you think AI edited her book? Oh, she for sure used AI.

I know, but isn't the whole book about AI? No, it's about AI data centers and like how they're taking municipal drinking water, which I get. So she's like spent her now, her big thing is water scarcity because she kind of like, she's looking for her next big case probably. So she wrote a book called Superman's Not Coming. And so I was reading it. And then I saw on, I think it was really.

Reddit and someone had this like long post about how we really shouldn't be focused on the water that data centers are taking. It's the almonds. And let me just read you some of these facts. Please do. It's crazy. So California almonds take 1.5 to 1.8 trillion gallons per year to like that's how much water is used to like produce almonds in California. U.S. data centers take 17.4 billion gallons. One almond, one almond takes 1.6 to 3 gallons. A pound of almonds takes 500 to 650 gallons of water to produce that many pounds. So I just thought the irony, and this is what I said in the line.

I said, let's pretend that your friend Miranda. was just bleeding heart like we got to stop these data centers. Yeah. She's not. She's not. She's not.

She's not. She's not. She ordered a coffee with almond milk. And I said, like, so let's pretend. You know, I think there's a certain demo

that likes nut milk. Yeah. Probably the same demo that's protesting. No, I think you're actually very wrong about that. A lot of people from all backgrounds like almond milk.

Personally, I don't. It tastes like cardboard. I don't understand the hype. But some people have to drink it because of their gut. I just think it's ironic that really like the bigger enemy is not data centers. It's not even labels. It's just like it's just ironic that people make such a big deal about something when there's like also.

It's like you're, it just kind of goes back to like you just don't know what you're talking about. None of us do. The tradeoffs are like there's always tradeoffs. Yeah. It's like people, there's a lot of like green initiatives that like take oil to produce those green initiatives, you know? Oh, for sure. And so it's like, what are we really talking about? I know.

But the reason this is like really troubled me is because they're building a data center in Nashville. Are they? I don't know if it got past. There was a lot of protests around it. We've talked about this multiple times. And I obviously use AI a lot. So I'm not pro data center. Man, you're bold for even admitting that.

That I use AI? Everyone does it. Everybody's going to come for you. Everyone does it. You know what's annoying? Is now on Instagram? And I don't like restarting my chat because it loses memory. I need more data centers.

I hope they forget everything I've ever asked. I hope they don't know who I am. What I was going to say is, oh, what's annoying is on Instagram now, you can post pictures or video and it will label it as AI when it's not. That's happening for sure. No, it's happening. That happened in Nali Kennedy, too. she posted something.

She's like, guys, I don't know why it's saying it's AI. It's not. Right. We're like, and then people are like,

oh, well, let's trust Google and AI for everything. And it's like, no, you can't. Yeah, no.

Instagram's like community notes and AI detector is so bad. So bad. So bad. So bad. The other thing that's interesting about AI that I read about is,

and our team can cut whatever they don't think is interesting. But you know how like, have you seen, how a lot of engineers are coming out from Anthropic, which owns Claude. Yeah, and saying that they have to quit because it's going to take over the world in 10 years. Right.

I believe it. So here's kind of the history of the past three weeks. So this guy named Jacob, who is like a leading AI engineer, comes out and is like, I have to quit. I don't believe safety protocols are in place. Yada, yada, yada. That sits for three days. Everyone's like, oh my gosh, the world's ending.

We got to like ban this. So then what happens is open AI. and Anthropic team up and basically say, it is a great existential threat that we do not take AI safety seriously. We need to push for regulation. So you then think they're being responsible, right? So then there's a, I forgot what it was, I think it was the New York Post.

New York Post article comes out, finds out that really open AI and anthropic teamed up to push for regulation so they could do regulatory capture and kill all of the open source AI models so that they can win the monopoly. Okay. So because what's happening is like these companies are valued at like billions and billions and billions of dollars.

And they're like, we have proprietary AI. Or our model is the best. Like Lama is the best or whatever. SORA is the best. And then like an open source Chinese company will like have the same level of intelligence on that, you know, model within like five days and it's open source. Right.

So they're trying to lock down their competition. So that's not even what is fascinating. Where's Google been in all this? Like if you look at like the leaders and models right now, it's clawed, open AI. What, sorry, when you say leaders, is that just mean the most people are using it? The most advanced models, right?

Okay. So it's measured by you're saying there's like scoring systems of like, Is it, can it do the work of this attorney or can it work? But Google is probably being used the most for AI. No. Google's out. Google's out of the picture. Being used the most?

No. So Google's like far behind, but here's what's interesting. The amount of times I Google something and then it says the AI version. Yeah, but they, people aren't even Googling anymore. Like their search traffic is down. In fact, people don't even say Google it anymore. Did you know that? This is a millennial term I learned.

Try it. No, they say search it up. Search it up. Oh my God, I always say chat chippy t it. Yeah, no, they say search it up. This is like new Gen Z slang. You say, surf it up? Search it up.

Search it up. It's replacing Google it because kids don't default to one search it anymore. So you say, hey, I'm, search it up. Rip, Google. And then do you know what a meat proxy is? A meat proxy? Yeah. It's a new slang term.

I was going to say somebody that is coming to work at a meat shop? No, someone who forwards you AI output. They didn't read. and just sends it over. So annoying. So you're like, this is a pure meat proxy, bro.

Meat proxy? That is so, like the amount of meat proxies I get in my DMs. You probably know Slop. Everyone says Slop. Like low quality AI content. I hear that all the time.

No, I never heard that. This is AI Slop. AI Slop. I've never heard that. Slop, yeah. Oh,

that. And then there's one more that you need to know. It's so obvious if somebody sends you like, a script or like an email or whatever, a text that's written by AI. You just say, bro, that's a meat proxy. Or this is Slop.

Yeah, this is AI Slop. It's a meat proxy. Okay. And then the last one you need to know is clinker. Do you know what a clinker is? A really clingy boyfriend. No, it's a slur for robots and AI. And it came from Star Wars, a Star Wars movie from 2025, I guess.

And a senator used it in an actual bill announcement. Clinker. Like if you ever see like one of those robot dogs or like a drone dropping off your food, you're like, look at this clanker. Clanker. It's like a slur to robots. Oh. We're in control. Like we, you better be careful.

I would be nice to them. I know, right? I'm not going to call them a clinker. Okay. So anyway, let me finish my story. So, so Google has been like totally dormant. And everyone's like, Google's going to die. Google's going to die.

Google's like in the, they're like in their basement. No. They really are. So behind the scenes, you know what they've been doing? they've been basically making this huge bet that will either sync Google forever or put them at the top of the race above all else. It's all or nothing.

The distinction is, let me read this. So theory one led by OpenAI and Anthropic is we keep scaling large language models, add coding agents, and let AI start building itself. So it's like called, I think it's called like recursive development. So it's that point where AI starts, improving itself, which is what they're saying will lead to world destruction, right? Yeah, totally, because you can't, then we won't be able to escape it because it'll be like a

human being that just like evolves and growth. So Google is betting on a totally different view. It's called world models. So while Open AI and Anthropic are basically really good at like predicting the next word that you're going to say based on patterns and like, you know, importing conversation threads and like learning human behavior, Google is betting on like teaching AI like real world physics and like how our actual like environment and gravity and all these things work.

And so they're going to be like at the leading edge of like living on Mars. Robotics. Okay. Because like these robotics and like AI will understand the world around you in a much like more sophisticated way. Here's the analogy. It says,

you don't have to knock a glass off the table to know what happens. You picture it falling, you picture it breaking, and you slide it back. Oh, shoot. Your mom just sent me a critical text. What is it?

I don't know. She's like, can I face time the kids? Is it bad? I don't know if she accidentally did it. What did the text say? It said she alerted like an emergency contact. Did you get one? Yeah, she did.

She did? Yeah. Oh, maybe she lost her phone. It's at the airport. Hey, did you just, did you, you, you just initiated an emergency contact. You just signaled an emergency, you just signaled an emergency contact to Danny and I. Yeah, look at your text. She's okay.

Yeah, she's fine. Drama. Okay. She's like talking to someone else now. She's fine. Ugh. She did it twice. honestly like she wouldn't do that she would just call 911

huh she wouldn't do that she would just call 911 that's why I wasn't worried yeah oh my gosh were you worried yeah I mean last time last time at the airport your dad like passed out so I know she would have texted or she would she wouldn't know how to do emergency contact I mean the amount of time she butt dials me though like on a daily basis is crazy yeah okay um Well, this has been really helpful.

I'm glad that my mom is okay. We'll keep you guys posted because we're headed to Malibu and then I'm going to the Amazon Summit in Scottsdale. So I'm going to learn a lot about Amazon. Prayers up for Danny's dry cleaning. Dry cleaning. And then I'm going to Harry Styles in New York when we do press. I was so busy.

My life is so busy. My life is so busy. Okay, I love you guys. We'll talk to you later. Bye. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.