De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - Our BIGGEST Conflict to Date

Episode Date: February 20, 2025

It's your favorite day of the week ;) or at least we hope so! It's Thursday and we have a juicy episode for you! We're telling you about some of the more controversial things we're thinking about implementing with our kids AND we're talking about our biggest conflict and actually start working through it in real time on the pod. We've received so much positive feedback about being open and vulnerable with you guys while we're on our journey post two month break and we're just so grateful! PLUS.. we LOVED the halftime show and are in AWE of Kendrick Lamar.  We've worked with some of our favorite brands to get you guys some discounts! Visit jshealthvitamins.com/dani and use code DANIAUSTIN to receive 20% off your order or first subscription order. We've worked out a special deal with Hiya for their best selling children's vitamin.  Receive 50% off your first order. To claim this deal you must go to hiyahealth.com/DANIAUSTIN.  Use code “DEINFLUENCED” to get 15% off your Primally Pure purchase. That's www.primallypure.com and use code DEINFLUENCED, at checkout for 15% off your order. Right now, ShipSkis is offering our listeners 20% off your first shipment when you go to Shipskis.com and use the code DANI. Go to Shipskis.com and use the code DANI to get 20% off your first shipment and save yourself the hassle this ski season. Make sure you’re subscribed to our official channel on YouTube, @deinfluencedpodcast, and follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your De-Influenced fix! Stay connected with us on Instagram and TikTok @deinfluencedpodcast, and as always thank you for being a part of this journey. See you next Thursday!!  Love, Dani and Jordan

The following podcast is a dear media production. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast. D-influenced. Guys, my baby got hurt. Somebody messed with my baby and I don't like it. And I'm not talking about seven. I'm talking about my baby boy Jordan. Yeah, no one mess with me.

I threw my back out deadlifting. I want to beat up that deadlift. I was doing sumo squats for the first time. Oh, that's a, you know, girls love a sumo squat. We do those all the time. It's like, really? Oh, yeah. It's like every workout, we do a little sumo squat. Yeah, absolutely. I'm so happy that like some of the men are joining in on this. Yeah, no, it's terrible. I know. Men hate leg days. No, I, this wasn't leg day. This was like core and back, but my, I was like lifting it and I felt like this slip. Oof. And it scared the crap out of me. Did you thought you were like, we're pretty?

Yeah, I thought I like ruined my walking ability for my life. Oh my gosh. Were you just lifting too much weight? I also wasn't familiar with like the form of sumo squat. You weren't like really tuned in. No, I wasn't like tuned in. Honestly, I didn't really want to be doing them. And so mentally I was like it was my last one too. Oh, I hate that. And then I literally had to lay there. Oh, at the gym. Ambulances came. Paramedics. No, they didn't. They had to give me an adrenaline shot because my heart stopped. No, I mean, that pain that you have right now, that's, this is what's so crazy. That's what happened when I threw out my back when I was pushing with Stella. That's how hard I was pushing.

That's got to be terrible for your Bajajah to be all healing and then your back to be out. So yeah. That was a miserable. So I was, oh, for a week, I don't, I don't, you can even remember this. I couldn't walk. Like, I had to, I, like, walked like the hunchback of Notre Dame. That's how I'm walking. Yeah.

And, but I was like also had just pushed out my first baby. It was wild. But I also didn't know because, you know, like, it was your first time. So I was like, oh, your body's supposed to hurt. But then I realized, I was like, wait a minute. My back's not supposed to be like this. And that's when I went to the chiropractor and then remember they adjusted me and then I started crying. See, this is what I really don't get is.

It's like this Brian Johnson guy who wants to like never die. Yeah. I don't get it. I'm like, at a certain age, I'm going to be like, all right, I'm good. I don't know what that age is. I don't want to comment. Babe, that's so depressing. No, it's really not.

it's accepting. Yeah. No, I get that. I mean, you know, like I call Goey all the time. I talked about this. My grandma's 98. And every time like, when I talk to her, she, I'm like, Goey, what's you doing? She's like, waiting for the good Lord to take me. She's like, but then, you know, I would tell her. I'm like, sorry, Goey, I prayed in second grade that you lived to 100. I'm like, I think you have a little a couple more years. Yeah, like, I mean, the purpose I will probably feel around like 75, 80 will probably be like my grandkids and playing a role in their lives. But like, let's take grandkids out of for a second. Okay. Like at a certain point, I feel like we live our lives where it's like, every day's our last, you know? Like, I feel like I get. Oh, that's a great way to live. Yeah,

I think I like, you feel like we live that way. Oh, 100%. Oh, I feel like we've seen some, you know? Yeah, yeah. And I, like, and I, like, and that's the thing is like, I never want to be on my deathbed and be like, I wish I would have. Yeah, no, no, no. I think that we both live like that. And so I cannot imagine being at 70 and being like, okay, I got more to see. You know, I think I'm going to be like, hey, I've done it. 70 is not that old. I know. 70's always my number. Jordan, but what am I going to do? What am I going to do for 30 years when I'm

still alive? You're going to thrive. We'll set you up for success. You'll be playing shuffleboard with the other ladies. My dad is 71. Oh, that's perspective. Like, my dad is like, we've got a lot more life. Okay, 80, 80. My dad still works out. Like, here's, I don't want to lose the plot here. No, 90, 92.

It's like a good number, I feel like. The point is, is like all of these billionaires that never want to die. Like, the fact that our bodies are aging, you can't reverse that. So like if I had to walk around like I'm walking now, like, you know, just kind of hunchbacked and like moving slow. You're like, if this is getting old, I don't want it is what you're saying. Yes. Okay. Yes.

I totally, but, you know, that's why it's so important to take care of yourself in your younger years. Yeah, I know. You know, my biological life? My dad takes no medication. My dad, every time he goes to the doctor has like, you know why my mom always said it's because he doesn't stress. My dad is like the least stressed out person. My mom's always like, I had to carry all the stress. Like when I think of my dad, I just think of floating in the pool, chilling like a villain, happy, content.

you know, doesn't need much. Just happy to be there, you know? Yeah. Easygoing. And I mean, I honestly think that adds years to your life. What are we all stressed about it anyway? You know, I did this, you know, this company I've been telling you about function health. Function of health or Function Health?

No, just function health. You've been calling it Function of Health. No, I haven't. Oh, okay. So Function Health is a blood work company by Dr. Hyman, right? Yeah, anyway. Oh, Dr. Aeman or Hyman? No, not Amen.

Okay. Amen. But he is, so he, basically you go to like a quest and then you get access to all of your blood work. So I just did a bunch of blood work and then it'll give you like a biological age. That you're going to live to? Oh, no. Oh, that you are right now. I'm 34.

In real life. But my biological age according to my blood work is 28. That's phenomenal. So I've been going around saying like I'm 34, but biologically I'm 28. That's what people ask. But I, everything that I do, I typically like to roll you on too. Yeah. I am so scared for you to get this blood work done.

Because I'm now, I'm actually okay. You think I'm like 54 at heart? Well, like the stress. Let's do it. Let's do it. Should we do it? No, totally. But it's, I got it.

What if your biological age is like 50? Well, then I got some, something to work on. Dave, I don't know why you're underestating my health so much. Like, I'm always, every time I go to the doctor, it's like, perfect health. I just get the flu a lot. Yeah, no, but they're going to check your cortisol levels. That's the one I'm scared to see. But honestly, you've been chill. My cortisol levels are fine. True. This is, I'm thinking, you're, you know what, I need to get you out of this box pre-break Danny. I got to get rid of that. That's the old Danny Lee. Hello, she's dead.

She's dead. Yes. She's dead. Yes. I'm chilling in the pool like a villain. Yes. So true. Speaking of body, I do want to talk about mine. You know, I just, I have to be a honest. I'm not feeling myself these days. Really? Yeah. And, you know, I've been eating healthy. It's been about three days now. Yeah. What? Did you see that something I snuck last night? I mean, I think I literally was like, you were like, yeah, I'm not into diets. I like bread too much. And I was like, well, if I eat bread, like, that's really what does. And you're like, yeah, I'm just not going to give up bread. Yeah, but I haven't eaten a lot of bread lately. Actually, I don't think I've had bread. in three days. I've been supplementing it with oatmeal. Oatmeal, oats, grains, rice.

I don't know enough about like the bread ecosystem, but isn't oats and bread the same? Jordan, the only thing is that like I'm breastfeeding. So if you could just get off my nuts right now, like, okay. And I also just had a baby four weeks ago. Hey, listen. I can't even work out yet. You brought this up. I have not said anything about your body. I think your body's great. I feel your judgment though. Just because you eat eight, chickens in one day. Doesn't mean the rest of us have to it. Okay.

Okay. See, literally, it's so much protein. It's scary. Finish your thoughts. Finish your thoughts. No, I just, I, I just wanted to say, I'm, it's just, I'm feeling it. I'm feeling a little insecure. Really?

Yeah. It's okay. It's just this area right here with the belly that just, you know, yeah. It gets us. It just, yeah, it just sits. It just sits there. I'm like, what do you do with there? Like get out of there.

And then it just affects like all my pant sizes because my legs, I don't mind my legs. It's just that area around the belly that it just, you know, it just won't go away at that stubborn area. And then it makes me go up like three sizes in my pants just because that one little area. You know, they call it the Fupa sometimes. The jeans video where you try it on jeans. Yeah. Very relatable. I've had many women come up to me and be like, love Danny's jeans video.

That's like so relatable. They come up to you. Truly. Our PE group today was like, loved that video, been there. Like, walked into Divi. Love that video. Been there. That's probably one of the hardest days is trying to put on jeans after you had a baby. Like I remember each, after each baby that one day after having Stella. I remember that day after having Strudden. And I'll never, and I'll remember that day after having Summit. It's just a horrible, horrible feeling. Does mother jeans though, I didn't put the link. I'm going to put the link to those. my stories one day because those are stretchy and we really need the stretch. Abacrombees aren't stretchy. So that's, that's hard. That's hard. But for what it's worth, I think you look great. And I love the curly hair. I'm a fan. I'm Stan. Thank you, babe. I appreciate that.

You know, we got really good news today about Summit. What? He doesn't have a dairy allergy. Oh. Yeah, you know, I know you weren't concerned, but it kept me up all night last night. Um, so Summit has this baby acne that's all over his face and all of my kids have had baby acne. And then like I started to get acne too right now. Maybe I think it's the hormones and stuff, but I, I typically don't get acne like this. Like I don't get like the pimples. If I get acne, it's usually on my jaw, which is so weird or on like the outside of my face. But right now I have acne like everywhere. Um, anyway, so I had noticed on Summit's ears, they were getting really crusty and it looked like, Presley is such a gross word. And it looked, it was almost like, looks like a rash on

just his ears and they got kind of swollen. And I was like, okay, this is definitely not baby Agni. So, you know, of course, I hit up the, the good old reliable Google. And it told me that summit 110% has a dairy allergy. But I was wrong. Did you ask chat GPT? Did I, I guess I could have sent a picture in? Yeah. Oh, man. It identified the rash on my chest. What did it say it was? I forget. It's a really complicated word. Yeah, the boys on your side of the family have like skin issues.

I know. You know? Should I send in the picture right now? Yeah, ask them. Okay. It, they, them. The antichrist. Is it I think AI is?

I don't know. It's been praying for me lately. It's weird. And it's been asking me to pray to it too. Oh, really? No. I'm joking. It's like, no.

I'm like that's called anechrist. Okay, I said, what is this? I'm not a doctor, but from nature, it looks like your baby has some redness and small bumps on their face called baby acne. Oh, there you go. Okay. Well, it was accurate. Yep. Man, what's the point of doctors and doctors these days?

I know. It's tough. It's tough. I mean, I literally called our doctor. and I was like, hey, and I don't want to tell it, tell her that I like, I like research via AI, but I was like, hey, like, you know, I kind of made it up. I was like, I talked to a couple other doctors already. Oh my gosh. And here's what I, here's what we've narrowed it down to. What do you think it is? Right. And yeah, it's crazy. Like with function health, I have all of my blood work.

Yeah. And I asked chat GPT about it. And then with 23 and me, we have all of our genetics. and then I asked Chad you be like my health is in my hands. Wow. Your health is in our hands now. AI's hands. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I found out from the doctor, like the real doctor and not AI.

That actually is a baby rash. She does not have a dairy allergy. And like, how does that work if your baby has an allergy to your breast milk? Hmm. Hmm. I'm like, that just seems like, I don't know, conspiracy theory there. Yeah. I always thought it was the formula.

The formula companies? No, no, like, because he's, he's supplementing with, with Bobby. Yeah. Yeah, so I thought that that was what caused it. So I wasn't worried about it. I ordered more of that holly, like the German one, because I want to try that one. Yeah, let me tell you, pediatricians, not into the German formulas. The German formulas.

German formulas. I'm just getting so, but we've always like Bobby. That's always in. Or like we did infamilchental ease with Stella and then Bobby was Stratton. And then now I'm going to just try this Holly one again and see. But it's like, it's all German. And pediatricians do not like, like they have, what did that guy do in our appointment? He looked at it and he goes, hmm, can't read it.

It's in German. But it was like so condescending. It's so condescending. I'm like, how many times have you said this to other parents? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So anyway. It's because they're bought. They're bought by the form. They're bought by Big Pharma.

No. I'm kidding. They're great. So, yeah, how was this weekend? What do we do this weekend? Oh, we put three car seats in. We put three car seats in. I don't know what I was thinking with that car of mine. It's okay. I figured out.

I have like a small sedan and it, I don't know why. I just really wanted the sexy mom mobile. And now it's like major regrets because we had to fit these three car seats to And it's like you can't even enjoy the car because it's like my car my C has to be so far up near the steering wheel that it's not even comfortable at this point. But it's a lease. We're in minivan territory. I'm still, I'm considering it again. But I did see that Lincoln Navigator. I saw someone drive a white one this morning. And I was like, that was a sexy ass car right there. You know, we still have the Mitsubishi. You know, I thought about this the other night. Stop. I freaking hate that car. It's sitting up in Colorado.

Oh, my God. That's so funny. I know, right? I always forget about that. I always forget about it. But, like, there's been a couple times where, like, Brenda's had to take, you know, strad somewhere. I was at work. You were here.

And I was like, I should bring the Mitsubishi back down. Where would we put it? Where would put that car? Our neighbors already hate us. I know. On the street. We need one of those lifts. We've been seeing in all the cars in the suburbs.

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Yeah. Our kids are going to have major problems if we do that. They're going to go to their front house and be like, can we watch Disney. It's like telling your kids, like, you can't have sweets in the house. But tell them what we have been seeing with Stella in particular. Well, you know, I don't know if it's just having a toddler that's four years old, that's a girl or if it's Disney. But Stella has been getting like these mannerisms.

and this like obsession with flipping her hair and this like, wo is me mentality. I'm like literally just describing probably any four year old toddler right now. But like we kind of feel like it was from Disney. Yeah, there's like we, we are seriously questioning where she learned like the dramatic facial expressions and like the dramatic movements. Like it's hard to explain it over audio,

but it's like she will walk to her bed, pause and be like, oh, my life is terrible. and then throw herself like on the bed face first. And I was like, that is from that brave movie. Yeah. It's like the mannerisms of Stella are the mannerisms of like Pixar Disney princesses. Well, like, or the other day we were doing timeout. And I was upset with her because she had hit her brother really hard on the back.

And I was like, Stella, like, we don't hit. That hurts him. And she goes, I'm not pretty anymore. And I go, I don't care if you're pretty. Like I said, look at mommy's hair. And she goes, my hair is not pretty anymore. I'm not a princess. I'm not a princess anymore because she was in timeout.

And I was like, where are you getting this from? Yeah, there's no way that that is like born into them. Like that has to be some type of media exposure. And you're not getting that from Peppa Pig. You're not getting that from Bluey. It is only the Disney princesses. We do a lot of Peppa Pig and Bluey. Those are kind of like the two favorites in this household.

We tried Trash Truck with Stratton, but you know. Stella's like a dictator. Doesn't let anything slide past you. And so we do a lot of that. But then, you know, like on the weekends, they'll watch like a Disney movie or something. And I don't know. Like I'm kind of feeling the same way as you.

Yeah. I'm thinking we honestly, you know what I'm thinking? I think we go straight up educational. PBS. I'm talking Sesame Street. I'm talking maybe a little Miss Rachel here and there, sprinkled in. You know, like I'm talking like we're counting cows on the TV screen.

I think we should just go. fully back to cable. I think we get rid of all the TVs in the house. Yeah. You know, I have really been. We have the frames is like, it's not a TV stellar. It's art. Yeah. Well, you know, like I didn't really like, like, we've been off the screens for a while, but they've been like kind of, you know, making their ways back and the, in the, and I really tried to like ramp up their nighttime routine where we were doing puzzles and we were doing it. And like, I saw a huge, it was so much more work on us, but I saw a huge behavior. shifts with the kids.

Yeah. Like instead of watching TV, I would like build them those forts and stuff. Or instead of, you know, them going and watching a movie, we did puzzle night. And then we did floor puzzles. We did, we would like work on Stella's letters and shapes and stuff. But like, it just took so much more effort from us. Especially when we first got the trampoline after Christmas. They were loving that.

They'd play dinosaur out there all the time. I know. I actually have been reading this book about simplifying your home. because I'm a little scared of like the toddler tantrums lately and just like the toddler behavior. Like I truly don't know what to do. Like I feel like we've tried everything. With which one? Seller or shrottner both.

Both like every all the time. I'm like I literally don't know what to do. Like it's so it's so confusing because then everybody's like, okay, temper tantrum like, okay, try to reason with them and like understand their feelings. But then it's also like be stern and be consistent. and be this. It's like so hard because they're also like screaming. So it's very like counterintuitive to be like, okay, let me try to like understand your feelings right now and then put my foot down and not give you what you want right now.

But also it's just really tough. But I've been reading this book about simplifying your life and simplifying your home. And one thing I was reading so much about is the amount of toys we have and how the amount of toys you have. and how the amount of toys you have can actually really can kind of like lead to ADD, ADHD, like the stress among children. Like it says that you should only have like 10 toys out for your kids. 10. Like in the entire home or just like out at one time? Out in like a safe play area.

Yeah. They're very like also they talk a lot about having safe spaces like where you play. Like that's like the play area. And only have like 10 to 15. I'm like we literally have like 50 toys. Yeah. We have like four giant bins. Yeah.

And then it talks about how like the toys that you have should be high quality toys. So they should be, I actually wrote down like the different types of toys that they encourage. Open-ended toys, which are blocks and dolls, like things that they can like play with, like open-ended. Number two, problem-solving toys like puzzles and shapes. Number three, fine gross motor toys like stackable cups. Number four, sensory toys, kind of like those texture. like the sand and textured balls and music instruments and then number five books and art supplies so like crayons coloring books things like that so i um so i realized this the other day and then

it also talks about how much you're supposed to encourage like play like just like make believe play like i used to like pretend i was a cashier or pretend i had a restaurant so i told i noticed like yesterday stella and stratton were like going nuts over the toys they were like fighting over the same toy. And so I was like, okay, guys, instead of playing with this, I was like, let's play Amazon. And Stratton, you're the mailman and Stella, you're the Amazon girl. And let's go around each house and deliver mail. And then I got them like book bags so they could put all their mail in it. And I showed them how to like make envelopes and put stamps on it and deliver all the mail. And that like, I mean, you know, it got them for like probably 20 minutes,

which is like pretty good. That's like a win. I walked in there fighting. Well, that was over the Yeah. Yeah. And that was actually towards the end. That was towards the end. But it worked for a little bit. And like, at least they were like doing something together.

They fight so freaking much. It's like impossible. I know. But, but yeah, so I've been reading a lot about this. And I'm thinking, I'm thinking I'm going to get one of those big black trash bags.

Yeah. And I'm going to. And here's the thing. It doesn't say to throw away the toys, but it says get rid of anything like super flashy, loud, obnoxious. Get rid of those toys.

Like just get rid of like, like don't eat. But then just store them all and then go like on a rotational system. We're like, okay, every two weeks, you, or maybe every week, like, you switch out the toys. Smart. We have so many freaking toys when you walk into our house. It's over on me. I don't even know where you start.

It's scary. We almost need to start from the ground up. Also, you know what I also realize, which I think our kids probably get this because of school and they have recess. But kids need three hours of physical activity a day. It's like having a golden retriever puppy. It's a lot of play. At this age? Uh-huh.

And I think boys need even more. Yeah, Stratton. He needs more. Yeah, three hours. I mean, they probably get like an hour at school. Maybe two. And then like at home they, I mean, they definitely get it because they run around. They wrestle, yeah. They wrestle. They wrestle you. Wow.

Yeah, it's a lot. You know, do you want to tell them about when you took Stella to work? Oh, yeah, I took Stella to work. So Jefferson Bethke always talked about like integrating your kids into your life. Oh, yeah. Danny doesn't like this one. So I was like, I just on a whim. I was like. I like this one, but just not at this age.

Okay. So good thought, wrong timing. Well, let's keep going. So anyway, I just one Tuesday, I go into the office on Tuesdays. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to take Stella. I don't know why. I was just like, I want to hang out with her today.

She wanted to hang out with me. She told me. And I was like, she's like, dad, I like you do. She was like, can I come? And I was like, you know what? Yeah. Come. Yeah.

And so we packed her a bag. she packed her briefcase. She got all dressed up. And I was like, it was so freaking cute. I took her and I was like, you know, your, your pictures on the wall everywhere with like Divi. And I'm like, that's Mommy. I was like, remember this is in Mommy's bathroom? Mommy made this. And I like get to tell her about it. And then she gets to, she's shy. So she didn't meet like everyone that I introduced her to people. And, you know, I would have meetings and she would like play with her laptop while I was on my laptop. I ordered her Chick-fil-A. It was like the best day. I've ever had. And then I come home and I tell Danny and she's like, yeah, I don't feel great about this. And why didn't you feel great about it? I can't remember. I want to be honest with you. It was like an intuition. Yeah, which is hard because that's like something you see. I do not. Yeah. So I'll tell you what my intuition was. As a mommy. Like I had this like mommy intuition and I didn't like it. And I couldn't really articulate why. at first, but like I really thought about it. And many of reasons. One, I didn't like the fact that we were taking her away from her peers to be around adults. Like, I didn't like that. I didn't like that you

were planning on taking her every Tuesday because I felt like that was a little overkill and it messed up her predictable routine and kids thrive off of a predictable routine. I also didn't like that you weren't keeping an eye on her 24-7 like she would at school where it's like every single minute at school is is at least her learning Spanish or playing or you know communicating with kids and her peers and and like learning independent and at work like that I was like what is she doing just like because I know that she took the iPad. I'm like what is she doing? Is she playing on the iPad? Is she actually like iPad sucks? Like it's it's not an iPad. It's like a like it doesn't it doesn't work. Yeah, I just didn't know what she was doing with her time there.

And I know that she probably thinks it's really cool. But for something, I don't know why. But like she's so innocent and doesn't know about work or buildings like that. And I know that like you do, I do want to integrate my child and like teach them about those things. But just not at four. Like I wouldn't mind her going like every once in a while for like a special occasion or something where like the, we call. kind of roll out the red carpet for her. But I wouldn't want her to just be there sitting around, like, alone.

I just, I feel like. She wasn't sitting alone. She was hanging with me, honestly. Yeah, I don't know. That's just how I feel. I know. And I'm not saying I'm right. That was just like my mommy intuition.

I would much rather her be at school with her friends and learning Spanish. Fine. I'll take shud. Oh, God. No, he's too young. Please, no. Stratton really, like, he needs that, like, predictable routine. So, I don't know.

But, you know, I think, like, every, maybe once a month. Yeah, no, it was like, I mean, she really did. No, I know she loved it. I'm not saying she didn't love it. She's just so, like, curious that, um, can I be honest? I also read this study. What, I showed it to you. I texted it to you.

But, babe, still is four. Right, right, right. You're reading studies that are about, and Jefferson, Becky. Right. Probably wasn't saying take your four-year-old out of this and like teacher to work. I feel like we should call him. I feel like she should die in. They're just so impressionable at this age.

And I really think that like something that the book I'm reading talks a lot about is trying to reduce the amount of stress that children take on. Like in keeping a predictable routine helps a lot with that. And that's like a lot of times that's when kids develop like OCD or or, you know, 80s. or whatever it is because they don't, there's, they have so many like external stresses, whether it's from like their parents fighting or unpredictable routines or the news is on and they're learning way too much way too fast and they're not being like shielded. Yeah. Like children, it talks about in the book like children should be shielded from adulthood,

you know, and like let them develop, let them have creativity, let them have their routine. And the reason why they feel like safe to be creative and to, have pretend play is because of the predictable routine. And as soon as you take that away, they go more like in, inward instead of outward. You know? Yeah, I mean, usually I was like the structured, scheduled one. And here I am trying to be loosey goosey taking my daughter to work with me. I mean, it's fine. Like every once in a while, you know, like if there's something special going out of the office or if it's like a really slow day. You know, I'm cool with it. But guys, When I went on my break, I got a little granola.

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Make sure you use the code Danny so they know we sent you. Oh, what have you been going on your worship walks? Yeah. What have you been learning? What have you been like reading about? You always like actually are kind of a sleeper. Like you're always like learning interesting things and thinking about and processing interesting things. Like well right now I'm learning. Usually they're pop culture related. But what's going on? Right now I'm learning how to love and respect your husband. Oh, okay. I'm actually reading a lot of books. I'm probably reading like four books at a time right now. I read love and respect throughout the day as I'm like just here. I read my parenting books right before bed. I read my Bible study like. first thing in the morning. And then I have this other one that's like about emotional stability. And that one just kind of go, it's like whatever. It's like, ooh. Janine recommended that one to me. But yeah, so there's this thing called, I was actually on a walk this morning and I was talking to

LA about this because I think that this happens so much in postpartum eras for a lot of couples. So tell me if you resonate with this. Mom is postpartum. Okay. And I'm saying this is something that happened between me and you. Probably not this baby, but maybe like with Stella. So mom is postpartum. Mom is hormonal.

Kind of has this like is has anxiety a little fear based because, you know, you just picture like everybody picking up your child, giving them the flu, walking down the stairs, falling, you know, 10 flights of stairs, ninja's breaking through your, house. So you already like had this like super intense fear with your child. And then you have this husband that comes in and like sometimes does things not the way that you would want them to be done. Maybe it's feeding the baby. It's taking your daughter to work. No, but I'm talking about like newborn phase. Oh, sorry. Um, so I'm saying like, okay, like a bottle paste feeding. So, you know, or was that, yeah, bottle of it. So paste feeding is like whenever you put the baby up and like,

you put the bottle in like 90 degree angle so that the baby really has to work on their jaw muscles whenever they're sucking the bottle. And I've never told me this, but sometimes like with Stella, like you didn't do it. And it would always bother me because I was like, oh my gosh, I'm going to have to breastfeed and her jaw is not going to be strong enough because Jordan isn't feeding the baby the way that I want to be fed. So then you're hormonal. And instead of finding a safe time or space to communicate to your husband, you snap. You just snap. And then you become, over time, you become naggy, you become annoying.

And your husband is now a little resentful towards you. He doesn't like the way he's being treated. So then he's like, fine, I'm not even going to do it anymore. Like, you know, we've been through some cycles like that. Yeah. You feel, you resonate with that? Yeah, less so in this one. But yeah, I know what you mean.

Yeah, I think I'm just, I actually am not even really speaking for myself. Ellie and I were just talking about this because we were talking about the book I was reading. And so this, you get on this cycle, this book calls, I'm reading a book called, I think it's called Love and Respect. You get on this cycle called the crazy cycle. That's what he calls it. And it's when the husband is not giving the love that the woman wants. And the wife is not giving the respect that the men desires. So you just, yeah, you just get in this vicious cycle where it's like, you're constantly playing the blame game.

And you're like, well, he's not loving me the way that I want to be loved. therefore I have, I have a right to treat him this way. And then the husband's like, well, she doesn't respect me. So like, I don't really feel like I'm going to love her the way. And the hardest part about the crazy cycle is one, it takes one person to be the bigger person to get off of the crazy train and to be the bigger person and to like give love when love isn't deserved or to give respect when respect isn't deserved. And so a lot of times I think this happens with couples when maybe they've just had a child because like it's so easy to treat men without respect because you think that you're so justified because it's like your baby or like you're postpartum or

whatever it is and you get into like this just like really like this crazy cycle with your spouse and in a really vulnerable hard time. Yeah. So we talked a lot about that and I've been reading a lot about that in my book and it's just so insane to me how different men and women are wired. Yeah, operating systems are just... Yeah, it talks about, like, how men... Like, we both see the same things throughout the day, but men see it with blue glasses, blue, like, what am I saying?

Like, blue tinted glasses and women see it with, like, pink tinted glasses. So we both are seeing the same thing. It's just tinted and, like, like, actually appears different. And so, but yeah, I mean, so now I'm, like, reading in the book, I'm like, okay, like, so I get the concept. I'm like, what? Like, what do you actually do about it? Like, what throughout the day or what can, because you know, I'm a very action-based person.

I'm like, what can wives do to show their spouses respect? So my question for you is, as a man, what makes you feel respected? Because, and I think that not only do men want to feel respected and be respected, but they also want to be desired. Is that what the book says? Or is that your, oh, yeah. So it's so funny we were talking about this yesterday in marriage counseling too. We weren't in marriage counseling yesterday. Yeah, it was yesterday.

No, we weren't good. It was not yesterday. Monday? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, so I think that it was funny because me and the other male therapists, I think we're viving on this because we were talking about like love and respect. And I hadn't started reading the book yet.

Yeah. And so we were talking about how I was like, man, I can walk into work in any office and like be the hero and solve people's problems. And they're like, oh my gosh, like Jordan, thank you. You saved the company. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like in the back of my mind, I'm like, man, that's cool. But like, I really just wish my wife is proud of me. You know, like, it's like I want that from Danny probably the most.

And it's not saying that she isn't. A lot of it you just don't know about, you know. Or I might like softball you things like, hey, I lifted this much today or, hey, I did this at work today. And I think it's very easy to be like, oh, cool, I'm so proud of you because I think in your mind you're like, yeah, you're awesome. I love you. but in my mind I'm like, oh, like I wanted that affirmation because that makes me feel like not just a hero to other people, but like a hero to you, you know? So, but so do you feel like I don't do that when you tell me that you lifted those weights?

No, I actually, I actually think on the topic of like, like gym or fitness, I actually feel like you struggle and like you like know that I'm right. You're right. What do you mean? Like you know that like, like you know that I have improved. But it's almost like I feel like you hold back on like giving me that reaction because I feel like you don't want to like inflate my. No. That's my true theory.

That is so stupid. I like. That's that was that's always been my theory. Sorry. I'm not saying that your feelings are stupid. No, no. I don't think that. But that's always been my theory.

not what I think at all. I'm not trying to like not inflate your. Honestly, I probably just am bad with words. Like I'm not, I am not telling you because I don't want you to like be confident and like me to notice. I, I, it's it's like weird. I'm just not, I'm just not, I'm something I'm working on is my, the love language of like affirmation like verbal. Yeah. And it's hard because, and I think that this is always what happens is like you end up with a spouse that typically desires the love language you are not able to easiest, like, I guess give the easiest, right? So like my, I was raised in like an affirmation type of home. Yeah. I don't feel like you were. That doesn't mean that you were raised in a bad home. It's just like affirmation was not like really

anyone's love language in the Austin household, right? And so I, I am used to receiving love in that way. That is the hardest love language for you to give. Yeah, like, I'll come up and like touch your muscles, but I might not say something. The hardest love language for me to give is quality time. Because like I'm so like efficient with my time. And like I like to always know that like I'm spending every second valuable and like I'm living life to the fullest. And so quality time of just kind of like doing nothing and being bored together is the hardest thing for me to give. And that is what you desire the most. And that is what you desire the most. And I really feel like God designs it and, you know, calls people together for this very

reason. Because for me to love you, I have to genuinely give up a part of myself and sacrifice to love you. Yeah. And like that's the growth aspect of it. And I think that you probably have to do the same and like learning how to affirm. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I don't know why I'm not very good at it. I just feel so silly sometimes. I know. You said this the other night and I still don't understand this thread. It's very vulnerable. Yeah. It's very vulnerable to be like, you look so, like, I don't know why. Like, I like can't do it. But I, but I, I feel like I've gotten a little bit better. But is that about you? I don't know. I don't either. I don't understand this one. You need to go like an inner healing retreat to understand. You want to come? Because I'm going tomorrow.

I don't know like what it is. Why I'm so bad at verbal affirmation. It's the same reason I also hate conflict. There's something about it. Yeah, the craziest thing about our fights the past like two months as we like recalibrate life is like I feel like there's been instances where you've had to get us off the crazy cycle because I was stubborn. And then there's instances that I've had to get us off the crazy cycle because you were being stubborn. And I feel like we've both learned so much from just like owning our side of the street. Like as our, you know, conflicts, we're basically in just like this giant recalibration of like what we want out of life. And that's like a hard season to be in in marriage because Danny's having to like adjust to this new Jordan and I'm having to adjust this new Danny. Right.

And so it's all normal. But it's been so interesting the more that I have owned my side of the street. So like any conflict we can think of. I've just been like, hey, like what is my. 50% in this. The more that I've done that, the more that I realize, like, our conflicts smooth over faster, you're able to be vulnerable and, like, humble to come to the table with me. And, like, our resolutions are so much easier because we're not focusing on, like, hey, I'm justified in feeling this way about you and vice versa. We're both like, hey, we're on the

same team. How can we be better for each other? It's like the eye instead of you. Yes. It's like, I need to work on myself. And it's like my, my issue is, is me, not you. It's so hard though. Even if your spouse is, you know, I'm just trying to think feeding the baby wrong or something or, you know, throwing his wet towel on the floor. I'm literally just making these up. It's like, it's so easy to just feel like it's all your fault. He's not listening. Like, he's not doing what I'm asking. But it's like really, can you look at yourself? And like, be like, why, why am I communicating in this way? Like, why am I so ficy? What's best, what's like the next best thing for me to do? Maybe it's just take a step back and find a safe, a better time to communicate to my spouse instead of, you know, just attacking him and being naggy. Like, there's always things that you can work on on your side of the street. Yeah. It's hard.

It's so hard. Like this last one. It's very common to, what? This last one, the reality TV show. Yeah. So Danny. is like pretty progressed in this potential for a reality TV show. Is that fair to say? No, I wouldn't say I'm progressed. I'm learning more. Danny's learning more about a reality TV show. And it's been a conflict between us because I'm very against it.

vehemently. Vehamately against it. And, you know, the first time we talked about it, I reacted in a way that I was like really angry. And I felt justified in how I approached you with it because I was like, we just went through this break and you just blew up your life. Your words not mine like in the last episode or whatever. And now we're reintroducing this like whole bit of chaos back into our life. And I felt really justified in that. And I think your narrative was, you say it.

I don't want to say it for you. About the show. About the show. This is just a hard conversation because like we still don't know a lot about this. show. So like I don't know. Fine. Be idealistic. What is your like rose colored pink colored glasses version of the show though? I mean, um, I would say with the show like there's a lot of opportunity to like share our story, share what we're learning. Be a good, um, like resource or influence for people. Like, um, just show up in a different format that we've never showed up at. And, um, to me, it's,

like also I'd be doing it with like two or three of my really good girlfriends and it just seems like every show kind of needs one or two people that kind of keep it grounded and can actually be like a good influence and I thought maybe it was like a really cool opportunity for that but I'm also like I've always said this and whether you believe it or not I'm of course I'm prioritizing my family for yours and so I just want to learn more and see what that would actually take and I don't know yet. So like whenever like I just process slower and I want to gather all the facts and then I want to make a decision. I don't want to like that's just how I've always been. Like I want to know everything and then I'll be like, okay, that doesn't

make sense. But I'm not going to say no to something until I learned everything. Yeah. So like the first time we talked about it, it didn't go well because like my whole approach to it with like you need to see my side. You need to understand my fear in this. Like you need to kind of like, it was kind of manipulative because I came at you angry and I didn't leave room for you to make the decision by yourself, right? Because I was trying to manipulate you to see my whole fear and what could happen. And you're just a more optimistic person than I do. I value your opinion. And I want to know like what those fears are too. Like I want to know, know, you know, your fears and make a pros and cons list and be like, oh, these are legitimate fears.

I think it was just the way that it was communicated, to be honest. Like, I feel like still to this day, we haven't had like a level-headed logical conversation about it. What about last night? I still feel like maybe I haven't shared like totally even on this podcast, like, kind of what I've been processing about it or like what my thoughts are or what I feel like. Yeah, I don't know. Well, what a perfect place to do that. Do you want to do it now?

I mean, not really. Okay. Well, like, I, what I was saying as it relates to, like, the love and respect thing is, like, I feel like last night I didn't come at you with anger. I had to be like, hey, all these fears and anxieties that I'm feeling about this show, like, those are like my problems, not yours, you know? Whereas, like, I think the first time I was, like, throwing those feelings at you and then trying to, like, get you to make them stop. And it's like those are kind of like my feelings, my problems. Well, it's also kind of like a thought crime because I didn't commit to anything either. Like, and I wasn't, I said I wasn't going to without your buy-in.

Yeah. I was just like learning about it. So I just felt like I was like being accused of just something I hadn't even done. Yeah. So, you know, when you said like in the book it talks about females see things with pink colored glasses and what is the difference in how the book describes men see the world and women see the world? I think that men or husbands want to be the protector, provider, keep everything safe and stable. And like, so when there's a disagreement, they ultimately go

like immediately to feeling disrespected. Like in an argument that's like the first place that they go. They're like, my wife doesn't respect me. I'm being disrespected. So what is the pink colored glasses? I think that in that moment, a woman thinks like immediately, I'm not being heard. Like, I'm not being understood. He doesn't want to understand me. He doesn't understand my feelings. He's not listening. He's being defensive. But if men jump to protection and stability, what do women jump to with pink colored glasses? Um. opportunity. No, I think they want to be understood and loved and cherished, ultimately.

Yeah. Understood. That's why I brought up the reality team because I think it's like the perfect example of like, we're both looking at one situation with two different lenses. And I think we're both on the same team. But you're right. Like the first conversation we had about it, I did feel disrespected. Yeah.

I would say maybe what woman wanted is like the emotional intimacy. To feel heard and understood. Yeah. Last night you go, are you going to ask me any questions? Yeah, because I felt like the, in this whole situation with the reality show, I feel like you've made your point and your feelings very, very clear. But I don't think that you've been like actually curious about mine about the show. Yeah. And like, and so, yeah, I think I've kind of thrown in some of my thoughts here and there.

And I think right now, like, on the podcast was like, I kind of was put on the spot. You were like, well, what are your thoughts about the show? But like, I, yeah, I don't feel like you've been like asking me, well, why do you want to do it? Like, you haven't asked me that, like, really once. Yeah. You just told me like the 18,000 reasons why you don't want me to do it. Can I ask you now? Yeah.

Why do you want to do it? Well, I don't know if I want to do it or not. But there's, there is, like I was 50, 50. I would say I'm more 7030 now, which 70 is no 30%. Yes. So the reasons why I would want to do it is, okay, on a more surface level, it sounds so fun. like more surface level. It sounds like a challenge. It's a new format. I've always been curious about TV. I didn't. I've never done anything like that before. And so I think that that was something that I've

always been interested and curious about. But when it comes to this concept, it is about Christian wives. And I feel like I've learned a lot about being a Christian wife. And I don't think I've done it perfectly at all. And I think that's why there's a lot of wisdom that I could share. And every single time I've thought about it, I'm like in every situation, like in any piece of drama, I feel like I could because I've, I've lived so much life. I feel like I could be a positive resource and a source of wisdom for like a lot of people. And it's so funny because like I watch reality TV. And I think on every show, there's like one person that I admire that I actually like look up to, whether it's like their story or, um, their vulnerability or whatever it is. And I, I'm not saying I'm going to be that

person on this show, but I always know that there is that is needed. You know what I mean? And so, um, so yeah, I just feel like it could reach a lot of people. And then so yesterday I was actually praying about it. And I'm not saying like, I'm not trying to like, whatever. I was literally praying about it. And I was like thinking about it because I had just had this like follow up call with with the production company. And I didn't know what I was feeling about it. So I was just like, okay, should I be should I do this? Should I not do this?

And I'm walking outside of my house like praying about it. And literally this white car pulls over to me. And she was like, Danny, Austin, as I'm praying about it. And she like looks at me and she's like, I am just now listening to your podcast about I blew up my life. and oh my gosh girl like i am just so happy that you're sharing this message and you're impacting so many people i was listening i was like crying listening to it um like you're an amazing role model thank you so much for for being vulnerable and sharing all this she's like i was like i'm gonna go blow my life she's like i'm a realtor down the street and like i went to utt and i just absolutely

love you that it was like literally i don't know i was like so encouraged i was like wow thank you so much like i was literally just walking outside of my house so i was like i'm so encouraged Thank you so much. She's like, keep sharing your story. Keep being vulnerable. And I was like, okay. And so I got my car and drove away and I was like, why am I feeling so much peace about this show right now? Like, I feel like this show is not like my husband doesn't feel good about it. Like so many people on my team probably don't feel good about it. And then I'm like, why do I feel good about it right now? And I'm not saying that that was like, you know, whatever. It's just, it's part of the journey of getting there to deciding whether it's yes or no. I'm not saying

that that was like a yes. You know what I mean? I think it's just all part of the journey. Yeah. And so, um, so yeah, I don't know.

I've just felt like a lot of peace about it. But then I'm also like I, um, I also know that I think everything you do, I do can be done in a healthy way. And I feel like I could find out that formula. But at the same time,

I also wouldn't want to drag my family or jeopardize like my marriage. because of it. So it's like I'm weighing those, I'm like looking at all of it and I'm like, is there a way that I could do it once I learn more about the details to where it could actually strengthen my marriage and strengthen my relationship with my, you know, with my kids? Or is it just something that's just going to be taxing and take away from from that? And so I'm looking at all those facts and I'm figuring it out. Like I just need time. Like I need and I need to gather the facts and understand exactly like the time commitment it would take and you know who else is going to be on it and what are some of the storylines and what are what are they like going to allow me to share

what are they not and how are they going to try to spin narratives or not like and I guess sometimes you don't know until you're there but I don't know I'm just I'm just learning more yeah so my side of the street is in this is like you asked me last night you were like Can you just, like, trust me and, like, let me have time to kind of make this decision for me. And that really struck a chord for me. Like... Not for me, for me and the family. Yeah, for us.

I agree. I don't think that post our first fight where I put a lot of assumptions on you that, like, you're just doing this again. We're going to have to have... I blew up my life part two on the podcast. And, like, once I, like, got past all of those assumptions and understood like, whoa, this is one of those. Usually we're not this far off on different pages about a topic. Like, if it's like moving or this or that, like usually I'm slightly more fear based and you're slightly more optimistic, but we're like kind of hovering in the middle and we have to like

come in the middle to make a decision. This one, it feels like, I think we're both like, whoa, why do you feel so much peace about this? And I don't. And I think a big part of it, and this is why I was like, hey, can we talk after I go. to my retreat is because I think a big part of it is I am extremely fear-based. And like, that's not probably good. Like you can say that men see the world with like desires for stability and protection. Those are probably true things. But there's a way for even that to become unhealthy. Right. And so I really was kind of happy that we put a pen in the conversation because like I before we talked about it again,

I wanted to make sure that I had done the work on me internally to be like, whoa, like, what if, don't get excited about this, but like, what if me not being open to the show is me doubting that God is within this and that you could be a light to more people,

via the show, right? Like, why do I doubt that? I believe in you. I know who you are as a person. I know who you are behind the scenes and on camera. So if there's anyone that I would bet on from a, you know, role model morality standpoint, it'd be my wife, Danny Austin. I think that where...

That's why I've always been supportive of your platform. I've always been supportive of the lifestyle that it creates, all of those things because I believe in you. So my question is, like, is God... is God big enough to control these snake producers that I don't trust and these storylines that we lose control over and the drama that has to be created to make this show interesting. It's almost like I think that where I'm struggling with it is like I feel like it's literally giving up control of the narrative. Whereas like you have control of your narrative on your platform. It's giving up the control of the narrative and saying like Danny's peace means that there could be a God-given person.

purpose in it. And I doubt that. I truly, right now, I doubt it. I doubt it. I wouldn't bet on it. I don't trust these people. I don't trust producers. I don't trust production companies. I know the nature of the entertainment industry is like you have to drag people through the mud. So that's where I'm at. But like, I'm going to go on my retreat. Yeah. And I could very well come back and be like, namaste. Hello. I would love to be. I'm like, this. It's like, what is reality? What is TV? Like, it's just us, you know? So, I mean, I'm happy with where we're at. Like, I don't think, I think you see my perspective. I see your perspective. I think God's going to like speak to both of us about the opportunity. But. Yeah. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call love and respect. No, I respect your feedback. And I appreciate it. love you and your optimism, even though sometimes it drives me nuts. Truly, I'm not making a

decision. Like I told you, I'm 70 30 right now. 70% no. We'll see. Have we ever talked about the fact that we went to a New York Fashion Week fashion show and sat next to Drake and Serena Williams? I think we have told that story. And Anna Wintour and Gigi Hadid. Yeah. And Adriana Lima. See, this is why we can die at 80. I mean, we've done it. We've done it all. So, which was so crazy that we, like, sat next to Drake when he was dating Serena Williams. And now she's, like, obviously married to that Alex guy and whatever. But what are your thoughts in her, like, you know, she was, like, performing at the Super Bowl or dancing at the Super Bowl with Kendrick Lamar to the disc track? Yeah. So, like, I'm confused because isn't it controversial to say that you don't like the halftime show.

To be clear, I actually loved the halftime show. We loved it. I loved it. I actually thought it was awesome. I thought it was like simple yet like artistic, like chef's kiss. I am not like, Kendrick Lamar is hard for, I think he's incredibly talented. Like I don't just put on his music.

Yeah. And I'm like, oh, I got to listen to my Kendrick album today. Like maybe the first one. I never listened to any of them. But like I just, I appreciate. him as like an artist and an individual. And I just think it's like if you're in a like beef game with Drake. Yeah. And you go into the Super Bowl dissing like champagne poppy who's like like considered universally as like one of the best. What a move. I'm like the balls on this man.

I am like go king. Like go do it. And then you put Serena Williams and who's the other person in the red? I see. I know. Oh, Siza. Siza. Is it also Drake's X? Oh, I don't know. Oh, also, oh, that's hilarious. See, that's what I'm saying. I'm like, man, go off. Like, I think it's so cool. I like it because he was more of the underdog. But isn't it funny, though? Like, he had Sturney Williams, but she's married with kids now. And she was dancing to his disc track. Who cares, man? If you could go, like, do the Crip Walk to, like, rag on your ex, who she's,

shall not be named, I would be like, go off. Like, I'd be like, do it. That's awesome. It's just interesting to me, though, because first of all, do you remember the first ACL we went to, Kendrick Lamar was performing it? Remember that? It was like headlining. He was there.

And I remember walking by his stage and being like, what is this? It was like very angry rap. Yeah, no, but he's like, he's awesome. Yeah. But I do think it's interesting because Drake has so many more hits. But here's the thing. So you miss this line. And I could be making up a narrative that I have no idea what I'm talking about. But in it, I can't remember the specific word he said. But it basically was like you can basically pump up and fabricate fame, but you can't recreate influence. I don't remember the exact line. But basically what he was saying is a lot of people in the music industry, smaller artists, independent artists have made claims that labels will basically juice. like albums. I remember...

Kind of like the algorithm. Yeah, like they juice the algorithm and they basically, I don't know if it's bots or you know, fake streams, but it basically like kind of creates this world where like what you think you should like

is what you end up liking because it's like, oh, it popped off and got 10 million streams. Or it's like always hitting like number one. And apparently Drake is infamous for this. And the reason I know this is like a very underground industry.

This is so random. Okay. I was at the horse races once in Pasadena. And I met this guy in the music industry. And it was just like this rag tag individual. And he was like, yeah, the labels pay me to basically like black market. I forgot what he called it, black market like song streams. And it's like a whole underground industry.

And so what Kendrick Lamar was saying is like, Drake, your famous fake, you can't recreate my influence. Like his is real. Does that make sense? It makes sense. It's so cool. I'm like, like, I, my level of respect towards Kendra Lemaar is. No, I think a lot of people respect him.

Yeah. I will say, um, he seems more influential than Drake. But Drake is more famous. Yeah, Drake's soup. Yeah. Way more famous and like way more, you know. But by virtue of social proof is like, the argument. Like, you're famous because the record labels got behind you. Yeah. And

propped you up. But Kendrick actually influences. Because of my actual art. Like, my art has actually created the influence that I now have. But you don't think that Drake is talented? Yeah. I mean, yeah, for sure. You always go do that little thing that you do where you like, see who writes their own songs. I bet Kendrick Lamar writes a lot of his own lyrics. And I bet Drake has probably 18 different co-writes on each of his songs. Let's see. It's the difference between Taylor Swift and Beyonce. Yikes.

I know. Sorry. Sorry. But what I'm saying is she has a lot of co-writes on it. Beyonce does. So she is an artist that the label machine has created, whereas you could argue Taylor Swift is like a tried and true artist. The other thing that I think can't be slept on is Drake had to

completely 180 his image after degrassy. That is amazing. Like he was, wasn't he playing like a disabled kid, right? Yeah, I was ever, I never really watched digressy. I'd one for them always watched. Yeah, this guy. He was like a Disney Channel character. A Canadian Disney Channel character that pivoted and took over hip hop.

So like they both can be great. We're just living off the tea. Yeah. We just love it. That's, and honestly, it's like, Coke and Pepsi. They're both going to be more famous because of this. They just seem so different to me. Drake and Drac and look, Kendrick Lamar. Like, it's a different sound. It's a different. Like, do you remember Danny when we used to run the Katie Trail and you

showed me that in Machine Gun Kelly song where he like tried to take down Eminem? Oh yeah, yeah. It's like these beefs are such good marketing strategies to like. Well, was it MGK or was it? It was MGK. It was. Yes. Wait, it wasn't, um, wait, hold on. It wasn't, um, the guy, Nate from Hope. No. My friend. No. No, it was M. GK. MGK wrote the song. Um, there was, let me see. Wait, MGK raps. He used to rap and then he uses, he used that. Oh my gosh. I do remember this. I used to obsess with that song. The song is called, um, it's so funny. that you remember that? Rap devil.

Yeah. So he wrote Rap Devil to attack Eminem and then Eminem came out with the disc track back. And then ultimately, I mean, Eminem kind of like put him in the ground. And I think even MGK was like,

yeah, like he's the king. Like he buried me. Yeah. But ultimately it was so good for MGK because it like rose him to fame. I would have been like, who's this at the time? It's like 2018.

That's what's happening with Kendrick Lamar. Like, but like look at me. Like I'm not a Kendrick Lamar a fan. And now I'm like so, I'm like, been playing the song, not like us and I've been reading the lyrics. But it's so crazy because all that matters, in my opinion, to end this battle or, like, keep the battle going was who got the Super Bowl slot. If it would have been Drake and he would have been able to perform his disc track on Kendrick and on the Super Bowl stage, I think he would be like the king at this point. Yeah. Because just to do that on a national level and bring a beef.

But it just makes Drake. It makes Drake more famous. And now we're all just waiting for Drake's next move. Yeah. I don't know if he has one though. I think he's buried. Let it, yeah, let it die. Yeah.

I think he's kind of, I think he's done. Not like done forever? No, no. I just think he lost. With this few. He's better off from a PR standpoint, just like moving on and like starting a whole new chapter. Yeah. But I think that Kendrick struck fear in this man because like,

he knows that Kendrick is a better, like if he tries to come out with another distract, Kendrick will bury him. I agree. Kendrick Lamar, one of the greatest rappers of our time. I guess for our last segment, we could do a little chicken soup for the soul. Yeah. What's one thing that happened this week that you're grateful for? What's something you're looking forward to?

I'm honestly grateful for this podcast conversation around the reality of TV show topic. Hmm. Why? Um, I just think that we, I don't think we haven't figured out, but I think that we, we love and respect each other in it. Mm, that's good. Um, I liked the conversation as well. I would say, um, something I'm actually really grateful for today is I had a really good walk with Ellie. You know, our friendship lately has just been like prime. Like, it's just so good. Like, the type of friendship where like, everything. single time you hang out, you're like, it's like iron sharpens iron, you know? And we're just both so healthy right now that we're like just sharpening each other. You know, we just come out and we're sharper. And like, you know, like she's really healthy in certain ways that I'm maybe not so much. And like we're just really like give and take. Like just like, just buttering each other up.

It's good. It's a good friendship right now. Like in our friendship always has been that way. But I would say she's always way healthier than I am. So maybe I usually have just like taking from her, you know, not actually, but like just her wisdom. And right now we're just both like, we're just good together. What is something you're looking forward to? We're about to go look at a couple more houses. You know, and that's like, I'm, I, it's so funny. Like every time I walk around our house, I'm like, I just love this house.

I really do. I love where we live. But I also feel like I'm just ready for that next stage of life. in that next, the next phase of just having a little bit more space, a little bit more, like, backyard, not feeling like so on top of each other all the time. And so, um, but looking at houses, even if we don't find the house that's perfect, it's just fun. You know, it's kind of like window shopping or like going to the mall. It's like I don't, I really am, you can attest it. Like, I'm the type of girl that I can go to the mall. I'm not, I don't have to buy something. Like,

I just like to walk around. I like to see things. I go to Sephora all the time. I look at all the new products, I don't buy anything. My thing is what I typically do is I'll go to like Blue Lemon, I walk around, I see it. And then if I'm still thinking about it, when I get home, I order it online. I do that all the time. Yeah. But that's how I feel about houses too. It's just fun. It's a fun, like, hobby. Are we going to the maps game tonight? Girl, I got to get my sleep. I don't know. I, the game really starts to like 8, 8.30. And I'm usually in bed benign. So with this breastfeeding schedule, I would have to say no. but I would love to spend time with you before you go bye bye okay well I made us dinner reservations

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