De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - Our Last Episode Before Baby #4… Chaos Incoming

Episode Date: February 19, 2026

Our last episode before Baby #4. We spiral about the Super Bowl, internet outrage, Epstein confusion, and the Frida Baby controversy… and somehow land in a full parenting philosophy debate about ...resilience, independence, and raising strong kids. Add in 37-weeks-pregnant emotions, membrane sweeps, vasectomy talk, and the general intensity that hits right before a baby arrives — and you’ve got this episode. Baby could come any day.Chaos definitely already has. See you on the other side of Baby #4. We rounded up some great deals from a few of our favorite brands for you: Share a little extra love this February and wrap yourself - or someone you care about —in comfort that truly feels special. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code DANI for up to 20% off. And if you get a Post-Purchase Survey, be sure to mention you heard about Cozy Earth right here. We've worked out a special deal with Hiya for their best selling children's vitamin. Receive 50% off your first order. To claim this deal you must go to hiyahealth.com/DANIAUSTIN. This deal is not available on their regular website. Redefine your standard of health. Secure 20% off your order and begin your intentional wellness journey today at Piquelife.com/dani Visit containerstore.com and use code DANI at checkout for a discount on your purchase. Tossing the toxins has never been more convenient! For anyone grabbing the Premium Starter Kit, you can get 15% off at BranchBasics.com with our code DANI For a limited time, new Cash App customers can earn $10 if they use code FAMILY10 in their profile at sign up and send $5 to a friend within 14 days. Terms apply Stick with your wellness goals. Go to kachava.com and use code DANIAUSTIN for 15% off. Subscribe to our official YouTube channel, @deinfluencedpodcast, and follow along on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your De-Influenced fix. You can also find us on Instagram and TikTok at @deinfluencedpodcast. Thanks so much for listening and supporting the show! Produced by Dear Media

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Starting point is 00:00:07 The following podcast is a dear media production. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast. De-influenced. I've already gasping for air. Yeah. Was I snoring last night? I was going to ask you. I don't think you snort.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I don't think you snort either. But I didn't sleep. Wait, that's so funny because look, my voice is kind of back today. I think I did snore, though, because my throat still is hurting. You had a slight snore, but it was like a cute snore. It was like a... Yeah. I drink...
Starting point is 00:00:36 I haven't been sleeping. being well at all. So I did a double scoop of beam. You're stressed. Tell us about it. No, I don't know. It's okay. No. It's a safe zone here. No, I don't want to. Yeah, I'm stressed. It's only millions of people listening. I'm just kidding. I was kidding. No, I'm not stressed. I'm not stressed. I've been, I've been more stressed. I did meet someone last night. So last night, we did the Galentine's Day party at Ellie's house. It was so cute. Like, there was like probably 10 of us. And I met a new friend, you know how I am. I meet a new friend. I'll never talk to him. Yeah, you should him. I'm like, I meet him. I'm like, God, we should be friends. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:01:15 it's like a stranger at the mall and you're like, here, take my number. And then I'm like, it's honestly, it's worse on your reputation. No, because you know what? They need to pursue me. Okay. They do. I'm so sick of pursuing. No, they do. I pursue my children. No, they don't. People never pursue me. I don't know. People, friends, never pursue. me. And they never asked for my number back. So here. No, I'm like, I'm telling you, if I give you my number, it's because I really want to be friends. But it's really because I want you to ask me for my number and then invite us somewhere. Do you need to be careful? Because you don't, you don't mean that. Jordan, you know what? You're wrong about this and you're wrong about the
Starting point is 00:01:58 Delilah invite. Okay. You thought that I just wanted to be invited to Delilah. And I knew it was going to be invited. It wasn't about the invite. I wanted to go. I know. But you think that you know me sometimes and you don't. Okay. I do want to be pursued by friends. Okay. I understand.
Starting point is 00:02:15 But if you're not cool, then don't pursue me. I don't want to be pursued. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, so we went to the Valentine's date, the Galantines thing, and I met a new friend. And she was like, is it weird that I tell you that like I listen to your podcast every week. I love it, blah, blah. And I was like, she was like, in fact, I was listening on the way over here.
Starting point is 00:02:35 And it was the episode of Preachers and Sneakers, or where I, like, ragged on Preachers and Sneakers. He was here yesterday. Well, I know. So she was like, yeah, that was like so interesting. And I looked him up and followed him. And I was like, girl, you're not going to believe it. He showed up to my house today. And she was like, no.
Starting point is 00:02:54 And I was like, I was in the garage bouncing on my ball the whole time. Because I was. You were scared. I wasn't scared. I would have faced him, but I wasn't mentally there. And like, it's really hard for like a pregnant woman. when you're like almost 30 weeks pregnant to feel like confident in your words. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Because like you just like feel the girth of your cheeks. It's like I don't know. It's like when you're talking, you feel like you're a chipmunk. And it's like I don't want to be arguing with you. You know, we had an hour and 40 minute conversation. And it was a great conversation. And the only thing that would have made it better is if you would have came in at the end. Did Nate text you?
Starting point is 00:03:29 Yeah, he did. And I was like, absolutely not. I figured. I was going to ask. But then I was like, I don't want to hurt Ben's feeling. He really thinks you don't like him. Really? No, I told him.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I was like, hey, she likes you. She just, it's like a game recognized game type of thing. No, it's like, it's like brotherly love.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Like, no, that's what I, but it's hard. Like, I'm not messing with him. It's hard to explain that to someone who doesn't know you though.
Starting point is 00:03:54 True, true, true. It's like, that's like how I, like, that's how my friends are like, I mess with you.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I just like give you a little nuggie. You know? Yeah. What do you call it? would you pull their underwear? But he was, he listened to the episode about us talking about him on his way here. Oh, that's horrible.
Starting point is 00:04:13 And then he was like, yeah, I don't really like know what I'm walking into here. But then I was super respectful. Why do you think he doesn't like, I don't like, why does he think I don't like him? Probably because of everything you said on the podcast too. I don't,
Starting point is 00:04:26 that has, okay. But you know, he's a troll. Like he put it out there. I want you to listen to that episode and I want you to to determine whether he's a troll or not. Is he a troll or was he someone who is navigating a very complex moral human dilemma as an
Starting point is 00:04:43 eneogram three? I think that you will find a lot of empathy for him in the episode. Game recognizes game, baby. Yeah, I'm teasing. I probably will. Honestly, like, we're going to be buddies. That's why it's so funny. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Like, it's so funny because I'm like, Ben, like, we're going to be. be friends. It is funny. Like you are treating him very brotherly. No, I know because I see him. Like I see like I'm not intimidated by him. I'm not like I see what he was trying to do. It's like so I just get it. I get it more than anyone. And so like that's why. You know what I would love to do is I'd love to put you him and J.D. in a room together. Oh my gosh. We would go so hard. Because all you all would do it's like that Spider-Man gift where it's like everyone's pointing at each other. No, that's so not what we would do. We would like create something brilliant. Yeah. Probably.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Anyway, I come out. I'm like, I bought preachers and sneakers in domain. I'm like, let's get them, boys. Anyway, so. We need some good, good guests like that. Oh, I have a list. Oh, really? Who's on your list?
Starting point is 00:05:56 Well, I really want Wes Huff on the podcast. He would be awesome. Like, I love him. But he's like, he might be too much. for our vibes. No, you're wrong because he went on Sean Ryan, who's like a new believer. And Sean Ryan just like asked him like every question that like every believer, every believer is like dying to know like, why does bad thing happen to good people? Like, you know, like, or what do you envision whenever like you die right now? Like where do you go?
Starting point is 00:06:24 And like Wes is like very like, he's not like a pastor like that's like, man, like, you know, and it just like kind of speaks out of his butt. Like he literally has like, like, like he'll like go through each scripture and be like well judgment happens this way and then Paul says this and it's like so um yeah it's just so like interesting and validating because it's like not just like speaker talk or pastor talk yeah i love i love hearing like people's point of view that don't that don't talk like this and like cadence we we reached out to uh Josh howerton oh he would be great he would totally come well i don't know i kind of think like during my maternity leave to like keep you sane.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I feel like you should do like hourly podcast like every Friday. Maybe yeah. But we went through. I texted Miles and Miles, I think Miles seemed skeptical that he would say yes. Oh, really? Like he might not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:22 He was like he's a big numbers guy. Oh, really? Oh, okay. Well, I mean, his podcast like like like. They slap. Yeah. He killed it. But he's hitting like,
Starting point is 00:07:33 like a certain congregation of Christians and in the pitch that I made was like hey like you engage with culture all the time you should come on because I think we have believers and non believers that listen to the podcast yeah I mean I would love to have Josh he had he had such a good clip the other day no I want to talk about I want to talk to him about his social media game oh yeah then he's he's not going to come if you say that right now why I mean maybe it would be interesting to know his perspective on social media. Yeah. And like does he post and ghosts, you know? Yeah. Well, he was talking the other day about, gosh, it was so sweet. What his family did for him the first time he was canceled a couple years ago. Oh.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And it was like, oh, my God. You just, y'all just have to get listened to the clip. Like, what's his podcast called? I don't know. Just look up Josh Howardton, his clips, his like, but the way that he dealt with his, his family dealt with his cancellation was just like, Brought tears to my eyes. I also really want to get someone on here who's misunderstood and canceled.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Who's been canceled lately? Carl Ledz would be great. No, he would be great. We honestly just need to like mass email these people and like see what's up. But who's like more recently been canceled that's misunderstood? Like everyone, I feel like. Like for example, if someone like had a really bad performance singing the national anthem and just got like destroyed. for it, I would want them to come on.
Starting point is 00:09:04 But that's like not character cancellation. Yeah, that's true. That's so not interesting. It's just like, oopsies. Who's been character canceled lately? Oh, everybody, babe. Like, seriously, everyone. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Bad bunny. Bad bunny. I mean, you know. Speaking of bad bunny, I'm I'm having a really complicated reaction to bad bunny because I love to have time show. So good. And it sent me down. Not that I, I didn't really get caught up in the politics of it all, but I just didn't think I was going to like him because I didn't listen to Bad Bunny. We didn't know. We didn't know. But he's so cool. It was just like he's such a vibe. So then I started listening to his music and I still can't tell if I'm into it. But what's so odd about it is it's been on repeat.
Starting point is 00:10:03 in my head for like four days. Yeah. Obviously, I have no idea what the words are. Nobody does. Like, no one does. People are like, you let Stella listen to the halftime performance. Like she understands Spanish. I was like, guys, this is like Eminem rapping like in English.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Like nobody understands what he's saying. Even people that sometimes speak Spanish, it's like so fast. But also, no, our kids were asleep by then. Thank you very much. Yeah. But also he's very creative. Yeah. very creative in a very diverse way.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Like it makes me feel like I respect this person for the same reason, Tyler, their creator. Yeah. So he's super crass and like horrible like with his lyrics. But like I believe he's a creative genius. And so therefore I respect him. Like he's so out there and doing things that are so like different. Perfect for the internet.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Like when he. So Tyler the creator is famous for he had. the roach climbing all over him. And then at the end of the music, like the whole music video is black and white, him with a roach crawling all over him. And then at the end, he just grabs it and eats it. No, is that real? It's a real video.
Starting point is 00:11:15 It's like kind of what made him pop off. Oh, I've never seen that. And then he was like, I just think his story is so interesting because he was part of this like group called Odd Gang. Yeah, odd future. And it's like all these kids from like Yonkers, New York that were all just super creative and probably went to art school and they formed this group and then he was kind of the Justin Timberlake of that group and just like took off and then he's just like everywhere now.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Do you want the full name? Yeah, yeah, I do. It's odd future Wolfgang killed them all. Yes, that's it. Really inspirational. The original members were Tyler the creator, Casey Veggie's Haji left brain, Matt Marchins, Jasper Dolphin, Travis Taco Bennett and Sid. Yep. Isn't that sick? Later members included Frank Ocean. Yep, Frank Ocean was in it. Mike G. And some other people I don't. Elboy.
Starting point is 00:12:07 So it was just like, it was just like this giant creative collective of like these 16 year old, 17 year olds making music. And then he just took off. And now he was in that movie with Timothy Chalameh. Yeah, yeah. He can do a lot. He's like very, he's very multifaceted. And I feel like those types of artists.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Like I feel like Bad Bunny's probably the same. I think the only movie he's been in was like happy. go more too. But I didn't watch it. He was phenomenal. He was phenomenal. The thing that I like about him is that he was bagging groceries in 2016. Yeah, that at a grocery store. That was weird to me. I didn't know that. And there's like pictures of him when he was bagged. Like he literally just took off in the last 10 years and is now won all these Grammys. He's performed at the Super Bowl twice. And so what I did like about his messaging was, first of all, I thought it was really cool that they highlighted like Puerto Rican culture. Like I loved that because a lot of people don't know about Puerto Rico
Starting point is 00:13:06 at all. So I actually great tax haven. But yeah, besides that, that's all they know is that Jake Paul lives there and to save on taxes. But I loved that. And then it was like really sweet when he handed that little boy the Grammy, which was supposed to like symbolize himself when He was little. And then he did take a moment. It was all in Spanish, but that was like the only part I could understand. But he was like, you know, he talked to the camera. He was like, you can believe in yourself.
Starting point is 00:13:35 You can do it. Like, you know, just like sweet. It was like wholesome. He had a couple actually getting married up on stage, like proposed to and married on on stage. Like, they legit got married. I thought that was sweet. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I just, I liked everything about it. How many? The booty dancing wasn't too much for me either. It's like it's not like it's like when Latin people booty dance it's kind of like it's It's okay. It's like it makes me want to do it too. Yeah yeah yeah. It's just so happy doing it's not it's not sexual it's just I didn't Yeah, that's just um how many people watch TP USA's halftime performance because the whole thing was like we did we did go over there just to see what was going on over there and it's pretty lame. I'm sorry. It was super lame. I like literally I watched it for like 20 seconds.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I was like, okay, we got to go back. Yeah, let's see. It says that they had approximately five million to six million concurrent live viewers on YouTube. Okay. Do you know how many people watched Bad Bunny's halftime performance? 128 million. Yeah, I think it was more people watched the halftime performance than the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:14:45 So either. Like the actual game. So either. I think it was the highest viewed ever. No, second. Who beat him? Last year is Kendrick-Glemore. I don't think that's true.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah, it is. Nate, will you fact check that? But so what's so funny to me about it is that they were boycotting the Super Bowl and like pushing people to TPUSA, which either means that the outrage that people feel towards bad bunny was like a little bit embellished on social media or tens of millions of people were just hate watching bad bunny. Yeah, no, it's hate watching for sure.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Both. It was both. It was both. Yeah. I mean, like, the more hate, what was it, Nate? Bad Bunny barely beat Kendrick Lamar. He had 135 million. Kendrick Lamar had 133.5 million.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Oh, that must have been new numbers. That's why they've been making such a big deal about it because it was the highest watch show ever. Even beat Michael Jackson. And that's why everybody's like, ha, ha, ha, like, beat you even though TPUSA, like, had their own show. That's what I'm saying is, like, don't you think that the outrage was leaned into to promote the show? Like I feel like if every year, there's something about the Super Bowl performer that gets controversial. And I feel like they have to use controversy to like sell it. It's just so funny to me because like I just remember growing up like Justin Timberlake like exposed
Starting point is 00:16:09 Janet Jackson's boob. And like we all turned out okay. Like you know, it's like everybody's like, oh my gosh, your children watch this. I'm like we saw a boob up on and like we're okay. Yeah. Like it's okay guys. It's like kind of I mean, how old was I probably like. 13. I don't know. It's like seared into my brain because I was like, do you remember the,
Starting point is 00:16:29 what was the thing around the boob? She was wearing like, no, no, no, no, she was wearing like a, like a, like a, a, a, a nipple. Tassel or something. Star. Oh, I don't remember. Yeah, it was like, it was like, for sure a thing because everyone would like talk about it, but all the guys talking about it. I'm like, I don't remember it. We're like, we're so boob. It's a star. You know there's stars on boobs. It's so American. But yeah, I thought I thought Bad Bunny was great. Yeah. So I don't know. I'm just like in this era. And maybe it's because I'm about to have a baby where like I just like not a lot angers me. And so I just kind of like take it for what it is. And I'm like, I'm just going to
Starting point is 00:17:11 watch this show. Like I'm just not going to like make a big deal out of it. It's not that deep. It's not that deep. And you know, it's just like, what do you expect? fact. Like, it's just always going to be this way. Like, and it didn't, it's not like it just happened. It's like we saw Janet's booby, you know, 30 years ago, 20 years ago. Mm-hmm. We're okay. We're okay. We're all okay. Brittany Spears was singing about weird things, too, you know? I will say that my favorite bad bunny song for the record, it's not DMTF or whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:44 That song's only good until the end, in my opinion. It's this one. Eo? Have you heard this one? It's like his fifth song? And I'm like, this one's the best. He performed this one, right? Titi Me Pregunta is okay to me. All right, I'll say this as a dad. Feeding kids well sounds simple until you're actually doing it.
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Starting point is 00:25:49 slash Janie. Okay, let's actually, you know what? I've never actually looked at the lyrics to Bad Bunny in English. So let's look them up. Everyone's doing that on TikTok right now. Oh, I haven't seen that at all. They're like, um, okay, here we go. Super Bowl lyrics in English translation. Okay. I literally have no idea except for at the beginning. I just, he says like, somebody asked me if I have a lot of girlfriends. No, it's like my auntie. Asked me if I have a lot of girlfriends. Yeah, he's like, yeah, I have a lot of girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Okay. So, okay, here you know. And he's like, I got another one. Yeah, it's like, that's kind of funny. Like, you know, and especially whenever you're little, you have like so many boyfriends. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's like mid 20s. Hell does he. I think he was maybe 28 or something.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Okay. So, Auntie asked me if I have a lot of girlfriends. A, I, a lot of girlfriends. Today I have one. Tomorrow, I'll have another. Hey, but there's no wedding. Ante asked me if I have a lot of girlfriends. A, a lot of girlfriends. Today I have one. Tomorrow I'll have another. A. I'm going to take them all to the VIP. The VIP, hey, say hello to Auntie. Let's take a selfie. Say cheese. Let the ones I already effed smile and a VIP, a VIP, A. Say hello to Auntie. Let's take a selfie. Say cheese. let those who have already forgotten about me smile. I really like the Gabriela's, the Patricias, the Nichols, the Sophia's, my first girlfriend in kindergarten, Maria, and my first love's name was Talia. I've gotten a Colombian who writes me every day, and a Mexican I didn't even know about, another one in San Antonio that still loves me, and the ones from Puerto Rico that are all mine. A. Dominican, who is a fresh haughty, A, fresh haughty, the one from Barcelona that came by plane
Starting point is 00:27:38 and says that my D is fire. I let them play with my heart. I'd like to move in with all of them to a mansion. The day I get married, I'll send them an invitation. Boy, stop that. Then, yeah, it goes into this.
Starting point is 00:27:53 So, you know, I've heard worse. I've heard worse. He's really the poet of our generation. It's really just, it's beautiful. It's really kind of just like a steady stream of consciousness. Yeah. Yeah, so that was that. I had a lot of people were like, why aren't you making a statement about the Super Bowl?
Starting point is 00:28:13 What statement? What do you want us to say? What do you want us to say? Well, and then they were upset. They were like, you need to make a statement about Epstein. I was like, Epstein, bad man. There. Epstein, bad.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Bad boy. I'm so confused. I can't sift through what's going on with that. Oh, Epstein? Yeah, I can't figure it out. There's a lot of people mentioned in the, the docks. The docs, but just because you mentioned the docs doesn't always mean that you're, I mean, some, it probably does mean that you're like a bad if you were really close with him. But sometimes he was just like a high up guy, you know, and I think a lot of people probably just like loosely associated with him.
Starting point is 00:28:55 And also was this guy just like emailing all day? I know, I'm like, why were you not like texting? Yeah, right. But you know how those like those boomers are. I know. It's like he's got his Blackberry. My dad. My dad loves an email. Like, you know, that was like kind of their version of text. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. I was just so confused by that. I'm like in a lot of the. Because think about it, they had, otherwise they did like long form the text like the iPhone wasn't here. Yeah. A lot of the emails were like conversational. I'm like who talks like that over email? My dad does. Really? Yeah. My dad. Like my parents when they would email, it's kind of like they're texting. It was like they're texting. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. It was just a different. are and I can't tell like what's fabricated what's not like I can't yeah figure it out I mean there's like what over three million files or something yeah it's a lot to sift through why can't AI just like go through it like I keep asking I'm like what what's real here um let me actually ask rock there's like a lot of
Starting point is 00:29:57 um okay so I know that a lot of people are leaving that uh what is he's a he was a sports agent sports agency Wisener. What is it? What is it? A lot of like talent is leaving that agency because he was like pretty associated with Epstein like that like Chapel Roan just left. Some other celebrities are like backing out. So he was associated in what way? He was just like in the files a lot like being close with Epstein like flying on the plane like stuff like that. Basically if you flew on the plane like you're not good. I kind of believe that. No, I agree. Yeah. People are like a do you mean like I you're not how about Peter Attia falling yeah is he the doctor guy yeah he fell pretty hard yeah he said some stuff it was not good not good not good at all um shocking
Starting point is 00:30:49 to be honest what he said no just that like he would be involved like I don't he seems like a guy that wears like really fancy watches and I never trust those guys that's not a bad take when a guy has veneers and a really nice watch I'm like not that ears are bad, but it's like the mix of both. I'm just like, I don't know how I feel about you. And like a watch is nice, but like when it's like diamond or like a weird color, like neon, I'm like I don't really like it's not that I don't like you. I just don't trust you. Yeah. I mean, it does say something probably about your ego. Yeah, you know, it's okay if you like watches and it's okay if you have an ego. I just don't trust you. Yeah, that's, I mean,
Starting point is 00:31:29 that's not a bad take. So let me just say this one. I have not been following. I'm ARA. I have not been following. Dave, who's Aura? I've never heard of this girl. What'd you name her like Aura? No, I don't, I've never used the chat feature on this. I haven't been following the Epstein files that much.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Can you give me a summary of what is true and what we've learned thus far thematically about everything that Jeffrey Epstein did from the latest release? Grock is always better for like real time information. because it can analyze all of the all the 3 million files right now no it can just see what people are saying it like monitors real time conversations I guess there was something that kind of exonerated Trump
Starting point is 00:32:24 where he like had this email he I don't know if this is true did you see this where he wrote an email like 20 years ago and was like I don't want to be associated with Epstein he's a bad guy yeah there was like an email that came out so Joe Rogan okay what we've learned from the latest release I mean, obviously, Les Wexner, bad man. So confirmed abuse, but limited trafficking scope. The FBI gathered ample proof of Epstein sexually abusing multiple underage girls, including
Starting point is 00:32:54 victim interviews detailing grooming and assaults. However, agents found scant evidence of organized sex trafficking operation benefiting powerful men. No client list, per se, emerged. proving elites were systematically involved. Instead, documents show unverified tips and allegations that were not pursued due to a lack of corroboration. I don't know if it was like a systematic thing.
Starting point is 00:33:22 High profile connections without criminal ties. Epstein's network included billionaires like Bill Gates and Elon Musk, former presidents like Bill Clinton and Donald Trump. Okay. Did you see the interview with Bill Gates' ex-wife? Yeah. That was like pretty crazy because she, they basically asked her, like, like, you know, about, and she doesn't deny it.
Starting point is 00:33:42 She's like, when they ask her, like, how do you feel about, I think it was like your husband being involved in Epstein's case or whatever. And she was like, yeah, that was a really hard time. And like that she like confirmed that that was like one of the reasons why she divorced him. Mm-hmm. Which is so crazy. Like Bill Gates, like, gets up on stage and like tells people what to do. And then he's like, a pedophile.
Starting point is 00:34:05 It's so weird to me. I really can't. Okay. Can we move on for this? Hold on. I want to talk about how Alex Earl and Tom Brady are hooking up, but it's not serious. I would say that, yeah, so basically he was just super connected to everyone and then everyone shunned him when all of this came out. Okay, I'm just going to say it. My kids absolutely eat off the counters, not always on plates, not always intentionally, but if there's a strawberry or a cracker sitting there, it's gone.
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Starting point is 00:40:25 direct deposit and promotions provided by cash up a block ink brand visit cache dot app slash legal slash podcast for full disclosure what the oh i hate when you read text like that oh god okay breaking news ew what okay we might have to cut this out because i've just not reading this but so i like do a lot of, like, promoting Frida baby and Frida mom. Like, because, and especially, like, I'm about to go into birth and, like, I've literally, like, I've made, like, three videos that I haven't posted, like, talking all about freedom mom and Frida baby and all their products. And a girl on my team just texted me and she's like, hey, I don't think we should post those
Starting point is 00:41:16 anymore. Like, have you heard everything going on with Frida baby? And I was like, no, send, please. And I guess they put out, like, some marketing campaign. I'm just not reading this. It's on their Instagram. And it's a rectal thermometer. And it says, this is the closest your husband's going to get to a threesome.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Meet the new three and one true temperature thermometer, the Swiss Army knife of temperature taking accuracy. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. For a baby? Yeah. I don't even, is this like real? No, that can be real. Nate, well, you look at this is real.
Starting point is 00:41:53 That can be real. But then people are like all over X saying, just took all the freedom mom, freedom baby stuff out of my registry. after seeing the post about their marketing in the past few days the brand just makes me feel very uncomfortable i don't use many of these products anymore but i'll be tossing out every single one free to baby should be disgusted with themselves this world does does not protect our children oh and then like this this one says on the side how about a quickie
Starting point is 00:42:16 and it's it's a thermometer what this is a real picture who someone in marketing is getting fired gross in general this is why i'm like I would never ever, ever get involved or promote. Not sorry, not not promote, but like create a brand for children or babies. It is just like, like they probably were sitting in a room thinking, this is funny, this is funny, but they like forget that you're like literally selling. It's like baby products. That is crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:55 I don't know if it, I mean. That's crazy. Are you seeing it, Nate? I'm seeing the, like boycott. There's like a red. it page about it. I guess it's probably popping off on like TikTok and social media right now and then it will probably hit like the media. They probably took it down. But anyway, here you have it. We're breaking news. Are you going to post the videos? I mean, probably not if it's inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Well, there's a lot of free to stuff in that hospital bag. I don't care if they're funny about freedom moms. Like, I don't know. I feel like, it's just weird. It's, but when it comes to baby stuff, It's like, let's not go there. But I will say that that freedom on the stuff like really does save me. I'll still be using it until somebody. Yeah, you don't have to like fully boycott it. You can just be angry. I'm angry.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Yes. And they need to be listening and learning. Yeah. Do better. They need to do better. They need to do better. And they need to make a statement about everything. And they really should fire some probably marketing employees.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Yeah, yeah. Should we talk about my pregnancy these days? Like what's going on? little update. Okay, so I'm officially 37 weeks and she's been membrane sweeping. No, I did it once.
Starting point is 00:44:25 What? Once? Yeah. You can't membrane sweep yourself and I guess you can but that would be very much. Oh, oh. Well, I thought, but you can do it multiple times in the office now. Well, I think like a membrane stoop, like it took three rounds. It's like a three round thing.
Starting point is 00:44:39 And then you've had two shows. No, just one. Just no, two. The day of and then the next day. Oh, I don't remember. It's like, I'm not keeping track. I'm just trying to. Basically, I think we're going into labor any minute. Okay. So this is what's interesting. I'm 37 weeks and four days, four or five days. And I've delivered all my babies at 38 and 1, 38 and 5, 30 and 6. My last pregnancy was my longest. So even though people or it's like, oh, the baby comes faster on your second, third, fourth baby. That's not true. Basically, everything you hear about pregnancy is not true.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Like, it just is, there's nothing. And everything, like, when you're sick, you're going to have a girl. If you're not sick, you're not, just throw it all out the window. None of it's true. So with this baby, I was looking back at my text with my Dula last year. And I started texting her on December 24th. that I was having contractions. I didn't deliver until January 9th.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Oh my gosh. Do you remember like how long we were waiting for that? Like we literally thought for like, I think it was the same cadence. We're at 37 weeks we were like, this baby's coming. And we were like every night we were ready to go to the hospital. And then the baby didn't come till 38 and six days. Yeah. So that's why I'm trying not to get ahead of myself.
Starting point is 00:45:59 But you also are getting ahead of yourself because you were for sure doing all of the things to get this baby out. You're bouncing on the balls. Yeah, I'm doing more. You're doing the curb walks. you went to a shady foot spa that would give a pregnant woman a foot spa or foot massage. You know, we were there like once a week. And you literally said to the sweet lady there, you said, get this baby out.
Starting point is 00:46:19 No, she doesn't speak English. And I was like, baby out. And she was like, huh? And I was like, baby out. Yeah, I was like push all the pressure points. It's also because I would like to get things going so that when I do it go into labor, if I'm going unmedicated, it's like not a really long process. I want it to be as far long as possible.
Starting point is 00:46:39 So that's also why I'm doing these things. And the baby's big enough to worry if he came right now. Like it'd be safe and fine. Yeah. So yeah, I'm just like doing all the things. Like why not? I have nothing else to do. Well,
Starting point is 00:46:51 except for hanging out with my kids, which I have been doing a lot. Launch a divvy product on Monday that you planned a whole photo shoot for and told the CEO and CMO. But yeah, it's fine. Ugh, you guys are just so uptight. It's just like, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:47:02 She texted me today and I said, I'm sure Danny has a plan B. Yeah. like everything in life is fluid fluid to your whims yeah you know it just like we're making work everybody gets so stressed out I'm like it'll be fine it'll be funny it's like you're launching a product I'm having a baby like like like daylight savings it's like what do and they're all running around I'm like guys this is what it's all about this is the chaos this is what makes the story good um so so yeah I
Starting point is 00:47:36 I've been doing all the things. So I've been bouncing my ball. My doctor actually told me to order the primrose oil capsules. She said those actually do work. I don't know anything about them. So I order those on Amazon. And then she said to drink my raspberry leaf tea three times a day. I was like amateur.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I was only doing one time of day last year. So I've been doing that three times a day. She said we did the membrane sweep, which I did look up like online the literature. And it does say that membrane sweep. sweeps and like doing it basically are the only two things that actually scientifically speed up labor everything else is kind of like doing it like three times a day was pretty key to inducing you don't you wouldn't even want that it's just science that those are the two that they said actually like scientifically yeah are proven um and so but everything else I'm just kind of like I've been walking
Starting point is 00:48:32 every day about three miles it's so weird because typically like at this point of my pregnancy I am in so much pain. Like I can't even stand up on my own. Like I can't walk around on my own. And this pregnancy, I've like not had back pain. I've not really had. I haven't been, in fact, I feel better when I don't wear my belly belt.
Starting point is 00:48:52 My belly belt, yeah, my belly belt because it pushes on my bladder and makes it have to pee a lot. And it doesn't really help anything. So I don't even wear it. Like it's so weird because I depended on some, like the chiropractor massages, all of that.
Starting point is 00:49:06 that so much last year. That's why I'm just saying every pregnancy is so different. Like, you really can't compare. But what else have I been doing? We did the foot spa, foot massage. I did a little bit of curb walking. That one's kind of hard. I'm just like I get out of breath. Yeah. Remember we were filming a podcast? Yeah, sorry. Jordan's on his phone. yeah so i've been doing all those things i did have jordan pack his hospital bag because i was like i was like just please be ready like i i'm gonna be so annoyed if like i go into labor and it's like really intense and jordan's like i would go pack my bag and i'd be like i've been doing this for like nine months and like you can't you couldn't pack your bag you know i could just feel the resentment
Starting point is 00:50:01 building so i like really was like please just go do it yeah the um the resentment mindfield's definitely starting to form, I feel it. Yeah. I've been good about communicating because I was like, do you know how angry I'm going to be if I'm in the worst pain of my life and you're like, I'm going to go pack my bag because I didn't do it the last week every single day when you asked me. You know, and you only pack like six things. I know.
Starting point is 00:50:28 It was easy. But still, like, I want to be ready. You want to be ready. It needs to be about me. There's a shot list for filming. Yeah. very stressed about that because I got to execute that one pretty well. And there's been little other things like, you know, we were at this restaurant the other day,
Starting point is 00:50:46 Smokey Rose. Oh, I was trying to do spicy food. That was another one. Yeah. And there were a lot of kids playing outside. Oh, yeah. This is a good conversation, actually. I was watching our kids.
Starting point is 00:50:59 And there was like a group of girls. And it seemed like the girls were being kind of mean to Stella and Stratton. my gosh they were just i didn't hear anything just hold on i didn't hear anything i just sort of saw from afar and i was letting them work it out it was like a group of like four or five girls that were stella's age that were like probably all went to school together and then stella and stratton would come over and so it kind just looked like they were having you know it's just like kids meeting kids it almost looked like they were having a standoff but it was very much like like um you know it was like four verse two but it wasn't like they were fighting. It was just like a, you know, they were just meeting up like that.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yeah. And so I kind of felt like, I was like, it just seemed reasonable to ask. Well, no. So what happened was, you know, I was watching them play and Stella would go up and talk to them and then she would run away with Stratt and then go back and play with them. And there was no fighting, like nothing like obvious. And honestly, they might not have been fighting. Like, I don't know what was going on, but I was watching from afar. And Stella wasn't. And Stella wasn't. crying. She wasn't coming as saying anybody's mean, nothing. And typically she would. Well, this mom came over with like a three year old, like a little baby girl. And she was actually really sweet. She was like, my daughter felt like convicted to come say, apologize to Stella. Because apparently she told Stella to get out of this world.
Starting point is 00:52:24 That's pretty harsh. And so so the, but this little girl was crying, crying. And Stella was like, oh, like it's fine. Like she wasn't she wasn't like, yeah, mommy, this three year old was being. mean to me because it was also like a baby like a three year old like cell is five you know and so it wasn't like cella was like acting like she was hurt or it confirmed my suspicions but it's like kids stay stuff like that that doesn't mean the whole group was against her like and stella had not come to us and said these girls are being mean to me she was happy as a as a clam we were leaving she was all good no complaints so we're walking on then jordan says he looks at stella it's very controversial i said were those girls being mean to you and danny says no and then stella all of a sudden she's
Starting point is 00:53:09 happy as a as a clam and then she looks down and she's like she she takes the bait and she victimizes herself and she's like yeah and i'm like dude you were fine five seconds ago i go babe why did you ask her that i was like let her come and tell us now she's the victim of this whole evening and now everything revolves around stella when i was like if that would happen to me when I was a kid. My mom would have been like, go back up there and tell them that they were being mean. Like, you know, and like go like, it's not that big of a deal. But I feel like Jordan was like what you were like wanting to be like,
Starting point is 00:53:42 were those girls being mean to you? Oh, come here. So Danny said, I said, I'm not going to raise Stella to be a victim. Yeah. And I was like if the girls are being mean to you, come tell mommy. I'll come help you out. But like we're not going to like whine and complain about these girls. Like it's just kids, you know.
Starting point is 00:54:00 And I'm not going to be like every. Stella already victimizes herself so much. Like she'll get in trouble. She'll be like, why do you even want me? Why do you even want me? Like, why do you even love me? You want to send me to a new family? I'm like, no, Sola, we love you.
Starting point is 00:54:13 We're obsessed with you. Like, girls are already still like victim mindset anyway. That like, I just feel like if she's going to be, if she's hurt or she has her feelings hurt or something, I want her to come to us and tell us. Yeah. I don't want to just assume. like she's got to be tough like you can't like yeah that was the first time that I really felt
Starting point is 00:54:36 we were entering into just the the pregnancy landmines oh stop that's like parenting no no for sure but and so then that happened and then um the next morning oh my god did you just keep tallies about everything no no no okay okay what was it no so then the next morning Stella like almost pulled to shelf out. And then I react, and I was like, Stella, what are we doing? Oh, please. That is so, okay, Stella was trying to get her own cup because she is Miss Independent. Okay. She's like awesome. And she doesn't need help for everything because mama didn't raise no wimp. Okay. So she's like getting her own cup. She's going to like pour her own milk, get her own cereal, whatever. And she's reaching for something. and the whole
Starting point is 00:55:28 like shelf kind of like like like kind of like pulls out yeah no no no it doesn't make a noise you didn't see it it like literally fell like the shelf
Starting point is 00:55:39 no it did I put it back okay but it didn't like fall on the ground no but it was like she had pulled it out and the shelf like fell backwards okay well and then Jordan looks at and go Stella
Starting point is 00:55:50 and you get mad at her when I was like I was like I don't feel like that should be we should be mad about. I feel like she was trying to be independent and it was an accident. So we should be concerned, but not like get her in trouble. So she like he got mad and then she ran to her room and locked herself and goes, why do you want me? I'm a horrible daughter. And I was like
Starting point is 00:56:13 Jordan, she was trying to be independent. It was an accident. It wasn't like she was doing something wrong. But I felt like you made her feel like she was doing something wrong. Yeah. It was hard because everyone in that moment felt misunderstood. I felt misunderstood. I was like, I was just trying to the shelf, you were like, my daughter's trying to be independent. You better let my daughter be independent. I was like, I want our daughter to be independent too. And then Stella was like, hey, no, I know. That's why I felt misunderstood in the moment because I was like, I agree. But it's, I think the, like, if you get in trouble for an accident, then it makes me feel like I wouldn't be able to take risks anymore as a child. No, I know. And I understand maybe that was in the inflection of my voice, but I didn't care that she
Starting point is 00:56:53 almost broke the shelf. Yeah, it was the inflection. It was the inflection. And so, then I was like, okay, I got to, so I wouldn't apologize. And then I was, yeah. Yeah. Those are parenting things though, I feel like. Yeah, I know. I typically like really pick and choose my battles. I know. You bite your tongue so much. And. And. And. Ordure your horrible husband. No, I'm just saying the stuff that I, I feel like will affect the way that they like like grow into humans are the things that I usually say something about it. No, I bit my tongue too. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Fine. We'll just keep biting our tongues and not communicate. Let's do it. Is there something I do with our kids that you feel like is going to mess them up when they're older? No. Is there something you feel like I do with our kids? No, I'm actually genuinely asking because.
Starting point is 00:57:48 No. My little too tough on them sometimes? No. I honestly think that what we're coming up against is that. we were just raised different. Not better or worse, just raised very different. You had love. I had you had survival. Like yeah, you could have survived on the streets and sold fake cats for money. I did do that. We did. And I could have nurtured a small bird. Like, I don't know. Like, I mean, and so what you're coming up against is we're both trying to prevent. Well, we had, we, I asked him,
Starting point is 00:58:25 existential question last night in the car. I was like, what do you think is better? Being raised by a family that like thinks you can do no wrong or being raised by a family that you're always in the wrong. If you had to pick one. Yeah. I don't know. I think the challenge of, okay, here's what I would say is I think the reason that we are such a good team is because we were raised under very different styles, not better or worse, just different styles. And I feel like I am trying to find a happy medium and I feel like you are too. And sometimes I push my direction too much and sometimes you push your direction too much and we just have to rebalance. Yeah, yeah. But I will say I've kind of softened up. Like I feel like especially with Stratton. Yeah, no, you you have softened up a ton,
Starting point is 00:59:25 but I still think that the root of the root of both of us is realizing the pros of how we were raised and making sure that those things are instilled. Yeah. But also like fixing the cons. Yeah. So like Stratton.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Stratton for example, I see a lot of myself as a kid in him. Yeah. Where he's like he doesn't he doesn't have a ton of grit yet. He doesn't have a ton of resilience. Like if he breaks his Lego, he kind of like collapses. Like he doesn't have this fundamental belief that he can do it and that his actions dictate like the outcomes.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Like he's responsible for the outcome. Yes. Like agency. Like he doesn't believe that he has agency yet. And I feel like that was something that when you're over nurtured, you know, like you can go your whole life feeling like you don't have agency. And I think agency is the most important. aspect of like being like surviving in the real world.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Especially probably as a male. And being successful in the real world. Yeah, as a male. And it's like really built into like what I think you're like a wife will expect from you. Yeah. As a provider and as a protector. And so, you know, I don't I almost want a little bit more of your style for Stratton. I know.
Starting point is 01:00:45 But it's harder. It's less natural for me to be like that towards Stratton. But anyway, I. Point being. we don't usually fight over like who's right or who's wrong you know in in terms of like parenting styles I genuinely believe that it's more you snapping at me or sniffing at me for the Stella thing okay no just I did not snip at you I was like babe I came to you it was a little bit more like babe wasn't like babe it was like babe no it was it was no it was no
Starting point is 01:01:22 I know because you know I it was a process of me bringing that up to you you know what if you're just going to get defensive you're right I snipped at you okay I snip snapped now what tell me um it just overall it didn't bother me I just I feel like we're entering into that stage of birth and postpartum where there might be a couple more snips here and there. I was super clear minded though like I didn't feel hormonal. I know when I brought that up. I know I felt very like Danny Browning. Yeah. It's so hard to bring up, like, things about your spouse that you want them to work on. It's like there's no right way to do it. No. I think you've done it in the right way. Like, I genuinely feel like I try so hard sometimes where, like, I will sit on it for, like, 30 minutes and be like, okay, like, how do I do I do this?
Starting point is 01:02:15 Or do I, or like, or do I say? The times that you come to me and you're like, hey, you know, I'm not judging it. Like, you're, like, preface a lot. And you're like, I just want to like say, you know, can you please just like not do this with the dish? I feel like I always heed the advice. Because I'm like, she's not coming from a bad place. Like she's not angry. She's not being irrational.
Starting point is 01:02:37 I know. It just never feels like it's done right. You know. When you're trying to communicate that. Or anything like bad, negative. It should never feel. But I mean, is there a way to, it's just, you know, it's just hard. You know, the.
Starting point is 01:02:52 the best times you do it right here on this podcast you want to try you want to tell me something what else you've been biting your tongue about i mean maybe i don't no i can't like something light something light no i really not the deep tracks it's friday i know i'm baby i'm not gonna like trust me i have discernment okay i'm not going to bring up something horrible right now i'm trying I think of something. No, I mean, I feel like everything's like, I can't think of anything. I've been throwing away my contact lenses. Sometimes.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Past four days since you told me. There were a couple of them. I honestly don't even get mad about it anymore. Yeah. Yeah, I don't have anything. I really don't. I was saying before in the podcast. That's a hard thing is like also like you never have anything to like criticize about me.
Starting point is 01:03:53 What does that say? Perfect. I'm kidding. You're just more easygoing, probably. Well, I feel like last year you thought I had a ton of things to criticize about you. Oh, yeah, you did. Yeah. I'm better now, though.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I'm perfect. You're perfect. The only thing I would say, and I said this before the podcast and we never got to this, is the reason I don't want to have any more kids. is not because I don't want more kids. It's because I just want you back. I know. I don't like being touched right now. That's probably the number one thing that bothers you about me.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Yeah. Sometimes I feel like you don't. I know you love me, but I'm like, do you like me? No, I like you and love you a lot. No,
Starting point is 01:04:40 I know. I know. But like sometimes it's like, I know that and I'll tell myself that. Yeah. But there's no, there's no proof in the pudding right now. Totally.
Starting point is 01:04:50 I get that. And I know it's hard. But that's just like something like I don't. I literally don't know how to fix right now. No, I don't know. That's why I don't want to make you feel guilty about it. But I am looking forward to not having more children for that reason. Be just normal.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Yeah, because right after you were coming back. Yeah, I was like, we're in Aspen. And I was like, we're back. We're at cool dinners. Yeah. She's looking hot. Yeah, I was feeling good. I was wearing my size jeans.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Yeah, she's feeling good. And a lot of it has to do more with how you feel about yourself. Yeah, for sure. That is what I mean by, like, like having you back because it's not that you're not here. It's that I know you physically, mentally, emotionally don't feel good. It's like so like just being touched. It's like, yeah. And so it was April what? No, no, July of last year. And then boom. I would say it was like the clock reset. It was like May or June too. I'll never forget that. It's like that WMBA game.
Starting point is 01:05:48 It wasn't that I wasn't like oh my gosh, we're going to have four kids. It's never been that for me. It was like I like now have to go through the season of well I think that's why some people have more kids and others because they can handle pregnancy in that like timeline so much better yeah I don't some people like love it I don't know I don't know what to compare it to but do you think you have easy pregnancies no no I think you your body does not like pregnancy God is like let's not do this again yeah no I Yeah, some, yeah, it doesn't seem like you. No, not at all.
Starting point is 01:06:29 I feel like I have very tough pregnancies in every way, like mentally, physically, whatever. But, you know, I'm also, it's tough to say that because we're also really blessed and I've never had like an actual issue in my pregnancy. No, for sure. And there's a lot of people that have had like, like really hard things happen. Mine's more just like, I don't feel great, you know. But you know what I look forward to now is we're going to get this baby into the world. Then we find out about what schools we're going to be in. Then we get to move.
Starting point is 01:06:57 And we kind of get to like, I'm going to snip it. Yeah. Okay. Get the, get the, get the, get the, get the, get the, Vesectomy. Okay. And then we get to kind of just like, just kind of like chill for a little while. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Like kind of rebuild our life. Uh, totally. You know? Totally. And if we want chaos, can we just not do it in the form of another pregnancy? Yeah, yeah, totally. Because we'll want some chaos. We'll get bored.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Yeah. do another divvy launch like yeah like hit the dopamine some other way but like let's just not yeah no i'm good with that we did it yeah we built the family yeah i want to get like more into like valentine's day gifts like for like the kids like i didn't have time to you love to skydive i love skydiving that's a good one um but i didn't have time to like really invest in like like the valentine like get excited about like getting my kids Valentine's gifts already. So I just did like the typical like grocery store bought ones. And like I can probably hit some dopamine highs just with that. Yeah. Yeah, you know. Yeah. And so I mean, are we going to be here? Are we going to be in Nashville? It's so it's exciting.
Starting point is 01:08:06 No, it is. There's some good dopamine hits. For sure. I'm going on my turn and leave. Okay. I probably might be back sooner than later. I also have this dream of like I want to reach out to like eight guests that Jordan is obsessed with and I want him to do like solo episodes with all of these like really interesting men. I don't really like talking to men on my podcast. You really don't. I actually don't really like men at all. Like I really don't want them around at all. Like I don't want a male doctor. I don't want a male like, well, Charlie cuts my hair. He's cool. I don't know, but I'm just like a very, I'm a girl's girl. Yeah. Anyway, so I want you to interview all these like cool men. And so we'll see if that happens. I feel like it would be good for you on your
Starting point is 01:08:49 paternity leave. Okay. But we'll see. Okay. So, yeah, I'll be back. I don't know when, probably like, how many months do we have? Maybe two months? Oh, one month.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Honestly, I might get bored. Like, I might be like... I'm telling you, you'll be back in two weeks. I'll probably be back in two weeks. But, okay, we love you guys. And we'll talk to you later. Bye. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services.
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