De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - Should I Tell Them The Really Bad Thing I Did?

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

Happy Thursday De-Influencers! Welcome back to YOUR favorite podcast! Today Dani's sharing the BTS of country club life, Jordan's calling the Amish and maybe walking back wanting to join their lifestyle? Plus, Dani is owning up to something bad she did.. You'll of course have to listen to find out because we aren't in this business of spoilers around here!! We scored some great deals with a few of our favorite brands for our listeners:If you’re ready to build your own empire—whether it’s merch, a passion project you’ve been sitting on, or even a summer side hustle, get on Shopify.com/dani and make it happen Give the “dads” in your life a unique, heartfelt gift you’ll all cherish for years—Storyworth! Right now, save $15 during their Father’s Day sale when you go to STORYWORTH.com/DANI! Go to shopminnow.com and enter code SHOPMINNOW15 at checkout to receive 15% off your first order. Huggies Little Snugglers, now with blowout protection in every direction* *Sizes 1-2. Huggies. Huggies.com. Looking for a formula and want to try Bobbie? Bobbie has an exclusive offer just for De-Influenced listeners. First, visit www.hibobbie.com to find the recipe that fits your journey. Then, apply promo code DANI to get an additional 10% off on your first purchase. Make sure you’re subscribed to our official channel on YouTube, @deinfluencedpodcast, and follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your De-Influenced fix!  Stay connected with us on Instagram and TikTok @deinfluencedpodcast, and as always thank you for being a part of this journey.  We'll see you next time! We love y'all!! D+J Produced Dear Media

The following podcast is a dear media production. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast. Deinflienced. What's up with you? Well, I'm just preparing for this massively social weekend that you've prepared for us. I know. You just decided you were going to be social and you went all out. Well, what's happening is we spend every weekend at the lake.

And so I was like, okay, Jordan, can we send this one weekend back in Dallas? And so since it's like the one weekend we're here, basically the whole summer, I'm like cramming in like five friend hangouts. New friends. New friends. Bold. Like I invited a family that I met at Stella's dance recital. I went and played tennis at the club with a mom that I met at Stella's graduation, which is so funny that I meet all of the moms in Stella's class on the last day of school. No, you can't be alone.

It's so mean. No, they all were friends. Oh, really? Yeah, that's why I was like, how do you guys know each other? They're like, oh, we play tennis at the club and we do these things. Yeah. And then, you know, it's like one of those things where everybody's like, see you Tuesday. And I was like, what's Tuesday?

Like, what are you all doing on Tuesday? Did they play Mahjong? Yeah. When did Mahjong come back? I don't know if it just came back or we're getting older. Yeah, did it come back? Like, was it always a thing? But like now we've crossed the threshold to where we hear about it more.

You know, or these things trendy. Like, like pickleball is obviously trendy, but like I remember all the moms played tennis when I was like in sixth grade. Do you think of it was like 2020, the hard years of the internet? Mm-hmm. And all these like Highland Park moms, stepward white moms were playing mahjong. They'd be accused of cultural appropriation. Have you thought about that? No, I've never really thought about that.

Um, no, I feel like because I thought about a lot. I think if they dressed up while they were playing Masha, that would probably get them in trouble. Don't they? No, like dressed up like. Oh, like yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, no. No, but no, I think playing the game is, it's totally fine. So, like, you know, I like, I still, I love a good game of Dradle.

And you ever play Draydle? Or Mexican Train. Mexican Train? Your mom loves Mexican Train, but hey, we're around. What I mean is this is. So you can't mess with us there. No, I think that they would really appreciate it. Yeah.

You know what I think blew up Mahjong is that crazy rich Asians movie. Oh, probably. Because that was like that Mahjong was like the game that she played against the mom. True. Where was that movie filmed? Well, it's all about Singapore. Singapore, that's right. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. But I think that people in Singapore migrated from China to Singapore. Right? Yes. I don't know that history. We haven't, we haven't made it to ask Danny anything about World War II. I'm still focused on America. She's growing chronologically.

So she's like American Revolution. Let me tell you about World War I, World War II. The Alamo was like, you know, what 18. 1850s. Yeah, 1850s. So she really, Danny's like, she read the Bible first. And then she went. And then she went.

American Revolution, and then she went World War I, World War II. And so you're making your way through the world's history. And then I went, where did I go? Guatemala? Oh, yes, because of the CIA. The CIA. Yeah. Sent her down south to South America.

Yes, yes. She's eventually going to get into Mao and Genghis Khan, but she's just got to get there. I went Vietnam for sure. Vietnam. Yeah. Anyway, so I'm making my rounds. around the world. Yeah.

Yeah, I went to the club this morning and I didn't get kicked out. What is the club? For just all of us non-stepford wives. Club girls. Well, you know, I'm 32 and I've never been invited by a country club member. To a club. To a club. So this was pretty special for me.

Any tennis lesson I've ever taken, I've had to either sneak into a club or take a lesson at a club that doesn't require you to be a member. Because becoming members of these clubs is pretty aggressive. It takes years. It's pretty wild. Yeah. And like, let me tell you like, almost criminal. Well, y'all know, y'all know, it's actually not, which we'll get into that.

Sure. But. Seems quite discriminatory to me. Not really. You pay to play. If you pay, you get to go use all. resources. It's just, it's. All right. I'm just trying to represent most of America. It's honestly just capitalism. Like, okay. Okay, go on. But yeah, so if you know me, like, I've been, I've been kicked out

of a few country clubs in my life. I mean, mainly just one, you know, well, the Swedish fish. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. Recently. And so, you know, me and country clubs, like, we have an interesting relationship, mainly because I'm just not invited. But I got invited and I was so excited and I went this morning to play tennis with the gals. And I was, I was like, oh, it's beginner level. Like, you know, I'll fit right in. These ladies, I mean, these ladies know, these ladies know how to play. And I was just like so like I was kind of like oh, because I was probably like 10, 15 younger, 15 years younger than some of the gals. Don't matter. Let me tell you. Don't matter. I feel like with tennis, it's like the older you get, the better you get. I don't know.

And there was this one leading zebra. Oh my gosh. She could put spin on that ball. Like you got to watch out for Debbie. She was amazing. Yeah. So, but then I started to get my. I started to get more competitive, but you know what I realized when I was playing tennis with these like, let's just say eight other women in their 40s and 50s? I am so mean to myself and so like, like when I miss the ball, it is like the world has been crumbled in front of me. And like I'm like, Danny, idiot. I'm like, it's a ball, Danny. And when they miss the ball, they're just like, next one. And I And I started to pick up because like these people don't know me. So like when I play tennis with people that I know like I can talk and be like,

Ah, Danny, you idiot. Like get the ball. Hustle Danny. Oh, I was standing in no man's like you know, you just talk to yourself. And but like when you play tennis with people that you don't know, like you kind of have to be a little bit more like reserved because like they don't know you. So the only words they're hearing from you are the words you're speaking to yourself. Yeah.

So like halfway in I realized like, why is nobody talking except for me? And like they were making mistakes. too. And they would just be like, huh, and the next one. And I would make a mistake. And it would be like, oh, shoot. Oh, idiot. You know, like, I was just like, I'm embarrassing myself. So I had to like calm down a little bit. Did they say anything? Like, did they like share the gospel with you and teach you about grace? No, no, no. They're just living grace. They're living example of the grace. No, but they were so sweet. And we played with Levi was the tennis instructor. Nice guy, nice guy.

And then afterwards, they invited me to the club for lunch. Wow. And let me tell you, like, I had stuff. What's it like in there? It's like a palace. It's just like old? Like mahogany? No, we sat outside.

I actually didn't go like inside the physical because it was such a beautiful day. We sat mainly outside. But, you know, it's so manicured and the grass and the flowers. It's just a beautiful place and you just feel like important. Like you walk around, you're like, who are you? Like, I don't know who are you. I don't know who you are and I don't care, but I don't. You know, it's just like, it's so interesting.

But the only reason I would ever like become a member is so that I could play tennis there probably because I wouldn't use like the other facilities. If the board is listening to this, I will be a great member. I will make sure my kids do not swim in the adult pool. I won't bring my laptop. I won't take any pictures. I won't play mahjong by the pool. They don't like that either. Let me ask you this.

Do they treat men and women equal in these clubs? Well, that's what all these leaders were, they were complaining about the entire time was like they have, like, the men's locker room is like three times the size of the female locker room. But the main reason is because of like, I don't know how long this club has been around. But like they were kind of probably architected or like built when, you know, females were like not as important. Yeah. So the history and that culture kind of bleeds into it.

Yeah. Kind of bleeds into it to be to this day. Yeah. So, um, so yeah, it's interesting. But like a lot of the, the females are using the club more like the wives of the members because like I think only one of you can be a member so like if both of us wanted to become member or like if we wanted to be able to use the club like it would either we'd have to me or you and the thing is is like a lot of the husbands are the club members and so the wives have

like no voting rights so they have like a lot is this what you're what what your could y'all vote uh it's uh 19 20 something what is this 19 18 18 no yeah so um yeah so um yeah so um yeah so um But the women are the ones that have most of the opinions and want most of the change to happen to their facilities because they have no voice. Totally. The locker rooms just stay small and ugly. So sad. It's just, oh, it's really just something to. It's disgusting how oppressive country clubs are to women in America.

And I'm just going to go out and say it. Like, it's disgusting. Stop. So listen. Listen, you start a country club. That's only for women. You reverse it. Oh my God.

Stop, Jordan. Oh, my God. We should do it. I know. I know. Totally. The women's club. Yeah, yeah. Reverse discrimination.

You throw that discrimination right back at them. And it's like, if the husbands want to come, like, you have to talk to your wife. Yeah. And husbands are like, okay. Like. I kind of love this idea. No, for sure. Women's only clubs.

See, here's the thing about country clubs. Like, if someone's in the audience listening. totally invest in this podcast and goes and builds it just call us. But, so, here's the thing about these country clubs is, like, I've never been a hater of country clubs because they do offer so much.

Like, they have multiple pools. Okay. That's pretty cool with lifeguards. Do they have burgers? Yep. You can actually order at the window and they bring it to you. French fries?

Yep. And then they have all these free snacks. And like, you know how I feel about it, a frack. Like, What kind of fracks are we talking about? Oh, Doritos, Cheetos, goldfish, just like any granola bar you could ever dream of.

Pretzels, like everywhere. Soda Fountain. Do they have a grand piano that someone's playing on 24-7? They have a band that comes called Girl in the Squirrel, I think. A Girl in the Squirrel, that's a band that comes. And, yes, they come on the weekends. And here's another thing. Okay, so this is interesting.

In the men's locker room, they have like a sauna, a hot tub. It's like this whole. In the women's locker room, they had none of that. Really? Yeah. And that's funny. So we had a board meeting in Arizona and it was the same thing. Yeah.

It was like when you went to the men's locker room, it was like this palace. Yeah. And then the women's like didn't have any of the other things. I know. That's because like that's how they, it's just, it's crazy. It's disgusting. You know, I'm not really much of like a sauna girl anyway because it messes up my hair. But no, I mean, it was a great experience.

And I actually really like the social aspect of it. And I like that you can just go to the club for dinner. And like, you don't have to worry about making reservations and stuff. And I don't know how much these places are. I think they're a pretty penny. I think they're a pretty penny. Yeah. Did you feel like you belonged?

No. Hey, please. I mean, you know me. I'm trying to like imagine how you acted in there because I know you so well and I know that you were like imposter syndrome

you were like imposter syndrome and I know that you probably just deeply wanted to be liked by these older women is I'm curious like if you they're like the kids are by the pole I'm like it's some annoying kid I hate kids exactly

exactly you're like was that did you have some of those vibes Like you... No, you know, I was really true to myself. And if I... Here's the thing. If I don't agree with what someone says, you know what I always say?

You're so funny. I always say that. I'm like, if somebody makes a comment that I'm like, oh, you crack me up, you know? It's just kind of like my go too because I'm not lying. I'm telling the truth. But no, I, that's kind of old dandy that would have felt like she had to fit in. I was truly myself. Love that.

Yeah. Like they were all talking about, you know, where they summer. And I summered the same places and I wasn't like, I summer and just be, you know, like, you know. Oh, so they were, they used summer as a verb. That's when you know. That's when you know you're in a country club. No, no. Seasons become verbs.

No. I honestly, like, loved these people. Yeah. Like, I, they're amazing. They're your best friends. Like, we might be best friends. I did tell Stella there was like we went to eat lunch after we got our nails thing yesterday and we were in the bathroom and like Stella was like talking about like I think she was like

yeah like mommy I got like pink and purple nails and like nobody else has pink and purple nails I said yeah there's probably other girls that have pink and purple nails like in the world she goes really like who are they and I go I don't know but when you meet them you are instantly best friends. So the entire like restaurant, she's like looking around for, I go, if you see a girl with the same nails as you, you were literally just instantly best friends. Oh, that's so cute. You guys know we've talked a lot about building our business divvy.

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Totally. Hey, and then happens. What else has been going on with you? I feel like I've had a really busy week. I feel like I haven't really connected with you. Oh, it's fine. We've got the rest of our lives. Don't stress about it.

No, I'm not stressed. But what's been going on with you? How's your heart? How's your soul? I don't want to talk about it. I really don't. It's like us every night, by the way. It's good.

I did get new rugs. Yeah, for sure. I had these two men come over. I told you about them. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. I've never smelled so much weed in my life. Like, because I posted on my Instagram stories that I needed to get rid of this rug.

And by the way, it's like, sorry not to like shit on anthropology. But like, don't ever, ever order a rug from anthropology. Ever. Don't do it. Only order clothes. They are meant to sell clothes. They are not meant to sell rugs and probably furniture if I had to guess. Ordered a rug from them. It came all messed up. Ordered a replacement. Oh, should I tell them what I did? Yeah. It's embarrassing. I'm not proud of it. Are you talking about when you...

I was a pupil pleaser. Yeah. So I'll tell the story. So Danny, Danny has these giant rugs delivered to our house. Giant. And the guys drop them off. And she's like... Well, they're replacing another rug they delivered that was like damaged. So they had called me and I scheduled this delivery.

I had an R house rug being delivered and the replacement for the anthropology rug being delivered. Basically the same day. Continue. So basically. So basically what happened was these two men drop off this rug. And Danny's like, hey, can you help me put it down? Well, you have to have all of the furniture moves. Well, they say no because they're like, we're not allowed to stay in your home.

And I said, what about for a hundred bucks? And they're like, I was literally holding the chair about to move the furniture. And they go, sir, put that chair down. Yeah. It's like, your wife's got a deal. So they move everything. I'm helping them. I drop two pieces of furniture on my bare toe because I was not prepared for this moving initiative.

Baby, you have to take advantage of the moment. And so Danny's taking advantage of the moment. And they lay this rug down. And we move some heavy equipment, a heavy furniture. We had to move the dining room table and then all the chairs, which are each, like 50 pounds each. So they start and I leave the room for a second because honestly, you all, like, I don't know what it is. But like, when I put people in an uncomfortable position, it makes me feel so uncomfortable that I had to leave the room. Yeah.

Like seeing them struggle with the furniture, even though I was paying them, I was like, so she leaves. So we're all just moving the furniture. They lay the rug down. And then she's like. No, I come back. She comes back. And then she's like, hey, can you actually move? Well, I'll just, I'll end the story here.

So she comes back. They leave. No, I am like, thank you so much. I offered them another 50 bucks to do a couple of other things around the house. I'm like, oh my God, it looks great. Like, you're like, you're killing it. Like, thank you so much. Like, God bless.

They shut the door and walk out. And then she says, that's totally not the rug that I ordered. And I'm like, wait, what? Like, we just paid them $150 each. And, like, you were so thankful and so appreciative and said it looked so good. I was lying. And she was lying and she knew this entire time that we were laying down the wrong rug. I felt so bad.

I could say anything. You were such a people pleaser. I know. Y'all, I felt because I felt like I was putting them in a tough position, even though I offered to pay them and like it was like a fair deal. They put it. They were working so hard. And then I came back from like my room and like, you all were already like moving the table back over the rug.

I'm like, it looks great. I love it. And then they're like, the worst part is like, they make you sign for it. Like, is this the right rug?

And I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, Jordan sign it. Sign it. So Jordan signs it because I can't,

I don't have the balls to tell them it's the wrong rug. I don't know. I have problems. I didn't talk about this. Yeah. Yeah. So, so.

So yeah, that was funny. I mean, like we have this rug now that we're, it's staying. No, it's staying. They're not going to take it back.

I have I hired the two potheads today to come and move it. So it's in our garage now. And they replaced it with the damaged rug. This rug's all right. Yeah. So anyway. Do you feel like deep down you wanted, you didn't want the right rug to be here? No.

Because if you had the right rug and all the rugs in the house were settled. Oh, trust me. I'm cleaning all the inside of our drawers right now trying to get all the product and gunk out. There's so much I want to do. I want to clean out this room. It's almost like you're nesting. I'm just honestly doing things that I want to do. You're not pregnant.

Well, I don't know. You tell me. No, you just started your period. You're not pregnant. Oh, yeah, I'm on my period. Yeah, you're good. No, I just, I genuinely think I'm, like, doing things that I've been wanting to do that I just never have had time to do. Succulents.

Yeah, I got a new succulent at Trader Joe's. The hard part about this new era of Danny is that she, when I come home, she's like, babe, Have you seen my succulent? I'm like, absolutely, it looks so good. And you're like, I feel like you are not appreciating this succulent. And I'm like, Danny, I have told all of my friends about the succulent. I've sent pictures to our family. And I've said, look at this succulent that Danny has.

And so it's important to you. It's important to me too. It's important to you because it's important to me. 100%. Well, I just can't wait until you open up your little drawers in your bathroom today. I know. I did. You organized my content.

Yeah, they're going to be all clean, no gunk. Also the ones in the kitchen. I got rid of all of the, because here's the thing. Like, our house is just kind of falling apart. There's a giant crack in that wall right there. Yeah. You got to fix that one. And look at all the dust in that air event.

Like, that's got to be cleaned. Like, it's just like, I am. I look at this crack and I'm like, that's a Saturday project. I'm like, dust Sunday. I'm like drowning. Next week, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday projects. No, I'm drowning in projects. You are, should you get an HD TV show?

I mean, call me. I'm not cheap. But I'll do it. Teasing. I would love shit, please. So yeah, that's been fun. I've also started running again. So I'm so sore.

It's, it's really unbelievable. How far are you running, though? I ran about four miles with Ellie yesterday, and we ran at a pretty good pace. Now, we ran and walked the whole time, which is always hard to do. I saw you started doing your hit workout. Yeah, I know. That was impressive. I know.

It's so hard. I hate cardio. I do feel like this little pooch I have is like, it's getting a little bit smaller. Just a little by little. I would never run with you, though. you're too fast. I'm not that fast anymore. That's the thing.

If you're going to start running with me, now would be the time. So I'm pretty slow. I'll think about it. I'll consider. Just think about it. It could be a really great bonding activity for us on top of this podcast.

This podcast has brought us really closer together. People don't know that. People don't know that. We've really hashed out a lot of things live on this podcast. Or they're brought up in this podcast and then we hashed that later. Yeah, there's been a couple things where I've just had to be like, hey, that joke really hit, hit different. Oh, my God. He talks about that all the time. He's like, you were so mean today. And I was like, I know. I know. I get really mean on this podcast. I'm actually not as mean

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And just so you guys know minnow is spelled M-I-N-N-O-W. So if you're calling us and you're Amish, you're actually not Amish. But we talked about some Amish communities that we wanted to visit on our last episode. And since then, it's been like the greatest thing because my inbox is just full of ex-Ams. Oh, really? Uh-huh. And I thought it was just Sally. No, I've had a ton.

I think that's just the only one that I forwarded to you. But I've had so many people that were like, hey, I grew up Amish. Like, if you need someone to talk to or have questions for, like, call me. So I guess Sally is ex-Omish. And I'm going to have Jordan ask her questions because honestly, I'm feeling a little anti-social. I've had a big morning. Hey, you better get it together because you planned a whole weekend. And I'm not carrying this load on my own.

I know, I know. It's true. Yeah, you're not going to dip out and leave me with the bag here. Do you know what you're going to ask her? No. Hello. Hi, is this Sally? It is.

Is this Amish, Sally? Yes, it is. Hi. This is Jordan and Danny. Hi. Hey. Hey. So you're live on the pod. So don't cuss, okay? Okay. Do Amish people cuss?

They do. Okay. So they won't like, not that you could understand it for the most part, but they have their own cuss words. But yeah. Yeah, because it's in Pennsylvania Dutch. What? Yeah. Yep.

What's the, there's different cuss words? Yeah. So Pennsylvania Dutch is a dialect of. of Dutch basically, right? So, I mean, people argue about it a lot. I say, like a majority of people say it is a made-up language. So there's, so it's like a mixture of German and English, pretty much. Yeah, it's like, what's the, what are they speak in Louisiana?

Is it, it's not, there's like a, it's like a French dialect. Yeah, is it Creole? No. It's, like, it's not, there's not, been really a name for it except for, I mean, we always just call it Amish. Yeah. So can you tell me a little story? Yeah, can you tell me a little story in Pennsylvania Dutch right now?

Hmm. Um, we Amishwa, have a in New York one and nobody in Ohio, get over, and nobody here. Oh, my gosh. What did you say? Yeah, what did you say? I said when I was, I think I said when I was three, or wait, what did I say? When I was Amish, I was in New York and then I moved to Ohio and then I left the Amish. Okay. So you were one of the Ohio Amish, not Pennsylvania. So, yeah. So I was actually born and raised in a small community in New York.

Uh-huh. And then when I was 16, I moved to Ohio to live closer to my boyfriend and lived with my Amish aunt and her family for about two years and then about, it was in 20, 23 in January, I left the Amish, but still lived with them until this past July of last year. And what does it look like to leave the Amish? Does that mean you're excommunicated? Like, can you go back at any time? So it varies with families and if you have ever joined the church.

but in my situation it's it's very weird so growing up when I was three my dad left the Amish and left my mom and us kids so she raised me and my three siblings Amish and then I think it was in 20 yeah it was in 23 she ended up leaving um but after I left I was still living with the Amish family And so my family has never shunned me, my mom or my siblings, or anyone. Yeah. Even though my mom had joined the church. But then my boyfriend, when he left in January of 23, we haven't heard or seen his family since. Yeah, because it's not, it is kind of a shunning.

It's a shame thing, right? To leave the community. It's kind of like, I think, leaving like the Mormon church or something like that. What was it like being raised? What was it like growing up Amish? what'd you do for fun what we did for fun well I was a rebel

so partied you like went to movies yeah partied so when I was normally like you know I know you know what

Rome Springer is I heard you talking about it yeah but so normally you started around 16 17 I started at 13 um

and when you started the what did you call it Room Springer, right? So that's when you basically go out into the secular world beyond the Amish community and you decide whether you want to remain Amish or whether you want to basically participate in Western culture. So yes and no. So whenever you start room free, I mean, you're still living at home.

It's just basically when your parents give you the go ahead, like kids and go do whatever you want, which literally consists of most Amish kids end up. that's for a cell phone. That's when they start partying, the drinking, yeah, all that. And then whenever they turn like 18, 19, 20, they're recommended to, like, join the church. And then, but if you start dating while you're in order to even get married, Amish, you have to join church beforehand. Got it.

Hey, Amish Sally, I'm going to call you back on FaceTime audio. Hold on. I want to know what she did like did she like did she like her chores like what did her day to day look like yeah for sure like was she turning butter or like doing more modern activities you know I'm serious like was she milking cow hi Sally? Hey can you hear me? Oh yeah this is what this is much better babe the mic picks up on the top okay so um questions for you like this is random when you said that you drank. and partied. Did you drink like moonshine?

Pretty much. Yeah, like all types of alcohol. Well, what I'm saying is like you didn't go get like coors. You like made your own beer. Oh, no, no, no, no. Oh. We went and got our own beer, like bought

Oh. Yeah, baby. If you're going to break the rule, like you can break it all the way. That's like one of the main things that I do not agree with, the Amish, is how normalized it is to drink and smoke and

like, do all that stuff. Yeah. Huh. And so what was your upbringing like, you know, just like in a day to day? Was it a lot of like chores because you're educated up until like what, eighth grade? Eighth grade, yeah. Okay. And so after eighth grade.

Or no, just even when you were like before eighth grade, like what's the day to day look like? Yeah, what's the day to day look like? I mean, definitely chores at home. Get up now. We didn't like go milk the cows or turn. the butter or anything like that. But, I mean,

for the girls, it is very, very common. Like, you are taught to cook, you are taught to clean and stuff like that. So I would, I don't know. I was also taught to sew so I can, I know how to sew, like, all the Amish clothes. But yeah,

and then you're, once your chores are done, you're sent out to play and you basically live outside all summer. And then in the fall, you start school. Did you watch TV? No. No.

Absolutely not. We did not have any electricity. Except for, like, years later. So that's another thing. Nowadays, a lot more people do have electricity, but you're only allowed to have electric if you're renting a house. So as long as you're renting and that house has electricity, then you're allowed to have it.

But you're still not allowed to have, like, TVs or anything like that. So you didn't have, like, at night you would have to light candles to see. So we had what we called propane lights or like gas lanterns and stuff like that. Nowadays they have like in this community where I'm living in now, they use like DWalt powered lights and stuff like that. So this is kind of a funny question, but did you guys all live in the same community? Meaning like there's this giant, you know, call it 50 acres and everyone in the Amish community has their own house. on the 50 acres, or did you guys move into developed neighborhoods? And it's kind of like you would have a mix of some people who were Amish in the neighborhood and then some people who weren't Amish.

Yeah, that's how it is. Really? So, like, my next door neighbor could be like an Amish person. My neighbor across the street is an Amish family. And then I have neighbors in my backyard that are Amish. And so they just, they genuinely will just not, well, I guess they do use electricity because it's a rented house. Yeah. Or if you buy a house that has electricity, you're allowed to keep it for a year and then they make you shut it all. Or they ask you to shut it all.

Who's they? Like the church or like? Yeah, the bishop and the preachers. And so Amish, you guys would identify as like Christians, right? So that's actually what, that's a big reason why I left, why me and my husband now left. is because we, my husband started reading his Bible and we became born again. Mm-hmm. And so we gave our life to Christ. And then we just had so many convictions and that's why we left. And because, so tell me if this is true, it's, there was a time where basically the Bible for the Amish community was only in, I don't know, like not everyone could read the Bible, right?

And then there was this like, there was this period of the Amish history where then was it converted in English so that you guys could read or was it you guys were raised only in basically Pennsylvania Dutch. And so then you learned English and you could read it. How did that work with the Bible? So growing up, the only Bible that I, that we ever had in the house was written in German. Yes, that's right. If you go to church, they preach in German. I never was able to understand it. And I know that like 90% of the Amish.

do not understand it. But, and even now, like, the ones that do read their Bibles, it is most, like, majority of them read it in German, which they don't know what they're reading. So, I mean, you can say they're Christians and some people will argue about it. So would that be, did you feel when you couldn't read the Bible on your own, that that was a way of people making the Bible in the community something that it wasn't? So it was kind of a form of control?

Yeah, 100%. That's why my boyfriend's family won't talk to him. That's why they've shunned him is because we became born again and they don't believe in that. Right, right, right. So. Because you're not supposed to know where you're going or like any of that stuff. Because you're kind of like their. Go ahead.

Go ahead. They have their own take on like scriptures and stuff. Like you can read a scripture to them and they'll have like their own whole different meaning from it. Right. And it's it's more built around the culture of being Amish and like the authority structure of parents and bishops and stuff versus the actual like your new interpretation of the Bible. Yeah. So hi, Sally. Sally, it's Danny. So when you left and this is in 2023, was there like a culture shock or because you kind of were the rebel, like you already knew about like famous people or music or whatever like was it a huge culture shock or you kind of

were already accustomed to it no i was kind of already accustomed to it because and another reason for that is because my dad left when i was three and we would go visit him like every other weekend and so like yeah i mean some things were i'm sure but do you have an example of something that was like maybe like a silly thing that was culture shock or like things that people were talking about and you're like, I don't know what they're talking about. Definitely politics. Yeah. But like, I don't know.

And then the whole thing with the, I don't know. Not anything that comes to mind. The whole like, when I started reading my Bible in English and when I gave my life to Christ, that whole thing, like, like the way I don't know how to explain it. Try. Yeah, nothing that, I don't know, nothing that really comes to mind because I, yeah, I already had so much experience. Would you say, like, your friends that were, like, that followed all of the rules, Amish rules? Like, they don't even know who Taylor Swift is type of thing? Oh, everyone knows who Taylor Swift.

Okay, okay. I was just trying to understand. I didn't take everyone, but, like, the younger generation definitely does. They do. Okay, okay. Oh, so interesting. Because that's a big thing. Once you start Roomspringa, they have these, they call it like a player, but they had this system installed in their buggies. And so like Friday nights, Saturday nights and Sunday nights, like they'll ride around the roads and like drink and listen to music and stuff like that. Like if you're a rebel, but you're not supposed to.

Well, once you're in Rome Springer, then you're basically like told go do whatever you want. Oh, interesting. So interesting. So, Sally, we'll let you go in a second. But, you know, I've been cooking and fishing a lot more lately. And, you know, there's a large part of me. I won't quantify it with percentages, but could be close to 70%. That really is kind of in on this Amish thing. So do you want to try and dissuade me from joining the Amish community? Because I'm pretty close. So the only thing would be is the man-made rules, like if you can live with the man-made rules and living like basically for another man and doing only as he says. I have problems with authority. Giving up your phone. I could do that. I happen to drive a horse and buggy. I could do that.

I would need to be taught, but I could do it. But yeah, it's just like there's there's so much stuff that goes on under the Amish that is very like swept under the rug and hidden and stuff like that. Like I'm so I'm pregnant with my first child and I don't we're debating on whether or not we want our kids around the Amish family or not. Yeah. Does your, is it your boyfriend or husband? Husband now. Wait, why? You didn't ask why.

Well, because I think there's a lot of cultural issues, right? No, but ask her why. Yeah. And I don't know. There's just, yeah, it's just we don't, like, I don't want my kid to, I mean, I don't care if he's friends with like the other Amish little kids, whatever. But it's just, it's not what they show it to be, like their beliefs and everything like that. And stuff like that. Do you think it ever was or do you think that it's just eroded as Western culture is creeped in?

I think it's always been that way. Right. The abuse and everything that's under them, I think it's always been. Nowadays, it's more talked about and stuff like that, but still, yeah. Is it, sorry, this might be like a little too deep, but is there like a lot, I mean, you hear about this in like the Catholic Church or a lot of different organizations. Is there like a lot of sexual abuse? Yes. There is so...

I mean, that would make sense, because, babe, they're not on their phones, they're not on the internet. There's actually someone, there was a study that came out just recently, and they were saying about 85% of Amish people go through sexual abuse.

Wow. It is insane. No, that makes a lot of sense. Okay, so I'm probably not going to be joining the Amish community anytime soon. You really dissuaded me. Turn some butter. Just go on our backyard and turn some butter, okay? So, Sally, last question is, are there any good documentaries or books about that you think give a really good, real representation of the Amish community?

No. I don't think so. Well, you should write one. Yeah, I wouldn't say so. Have you ever heard, what is it called, the show Breaking Amish or something like that? Yeah, I was going to watch it, but I had to pay Nat Geo or something. Yeah, it's all scripted. And yeah, none of it actually actually like shows the true stuff that goes on under the Amish. Yeah.

So last question. Does your husband have a beard? He's trying to grow one out. Me too. Oh, no. I feel him. I can't do it. Yeah, I get it.

Well, thank you so much for talking to us. You should definitely write a book. Yeah. I think you should. and we are so glad that you are a born-again Jesus follower. Welcome to the party. Thank you. Okay, thanks. If you guys have any other questions anytime, just feel free to message me. I definitely will, and we have your number. I have so many questions. They'll just come later.

Okay. Sounds good. Thanks, Sally. Bye. So you missed that, but when she was talking about not wanting her kid to be around, that's the first. Maybe it was just like a woman, like instinct. Like, I think she was saying, that because of think about it. If I'm a female and I'm only educated up until the eighth grade, I am just listening to the community, to the church, to these men, I, in, I am going to feel very small as a person. Like, like, as a female, because physically I'm not as strong, I'm not as educated. I don't know. I can't do all the things that everybody else can do. So you just listen to these older people that are guiding you. And as a female, you probably have a lot of,

you're around, they don't have technology. They're on cameras. They don't have ways to post if something has gone wrong. Like, it makes so much sense that there would be a lot of sexual abuse. Yeah. And especially, and I didn't want to bring up around like child sexual abuse, but I, I can only imagine. I would not want my child around like, I mean, half the reason why like a lot of kids or I would ever even put my my kids into a certain school because there's cameras everywhere. There's ways to post if something went wrong or whatever. But in these communities where there's literally no electricity, like I would never let my kid go hang out with all these other.

I would never. Man, my mind's a little blown right now. I've never heard this. I literally thought they were just turning butter, fishing and living off the grid. No. And I don't like, I don't like community. where people are left vulnerable, especially with without education. Like, it doesn't, that one kind of weirds me out, like, that they don't have education

past eighth grade. That's just setting people up. That's setting people up to, like, brainwash them. Like, you're brainwashing them because you're not giving them the tools to understand their environment or their future. Like, it's... I mean, I get it. I just...

Sorry. It's got really heavy. I was just looking for a good conversation. Sorry, I just. Ooh, Sally, go write a book. Mm-hmm. Man, I will not be, I also forgot to ask her if they were really good at volleyball. Yeah.

I'm pretty sure the Amish are very good at volleyball. The good news is that we're probably not going to get a lot of hate for this podcast and or counter-ar arguments because they don't know we exist. Yeah. And they just are living in their little, they're like, whoa, what's a podcast? Like someone's going to come. I'd be like, Danny, like, I am so offended. My Amish family is so offended. I'm like, well, you're breaking the role. I'll tell on you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We kind of got a little blackmail ring going. It's like you snitch on us or you come at us. We'll come back at you. We'll tell them you have a cricket wireless phone. Yeah. Cricket wireless. I'm dead. Wow. That's so interesting.

Interesting. We should start having, like, we should go like a little bit more Theo Vaughn and just start inviting like just different types of people. I am so mad right now that you even are saying this to me. Do you have any idea how many different people I've tried to have on this podcast? You're always trying to bring it in like somebody to perform an exorcism on me. And I'm so sick of it. I'm like, I'm fine. No, there's this guy named Tim Timothy Albarino. Do you remember? He was on my list. Is this the guy that does exorcisms? No. He's the one who, what did he do? He found some like ancient civilizations in South America. He's like a Christian Indiana Jones. I found this guy. Then you have him on.

I did. I tried to have him on seven months ago. I DMed him from your account. He said, let's do it. I'm so down. Now he's on Joe Rogan. He's on all these big podcasts. Okay, have him come on Dio.

No, we missed it. I'm just saying I call interesting. people ahead of time. And so if you're giving me the green light, babe, I'm going to because I'm going to just take those weeks off. And it would be nice for me. I'll go to the club with the girls and play tennis, okay? I think you would love these people. No, I think that you would have more intellectual conversations with these people because I don't really know. So basically you're talking about like, I really just wanted to know if this Amish community knew who Taylor Swift was. That was really, that was the question that was going to keep me up at night.

And that's all I really needed to know. Okay. And you can ask all. All the other questions, but I wanted to know about that. Oh, my gosh. So basically what you're saying is you don't want to do this podcast anymore. So basically the, the... So basically you don't love me anymore. Hold on. Hold on. That's how he will end up.

Okay, basically, you just don't love me. Hold on. So basically, this is for the clip. So basically, Danny, you're quitting this podcast. That's good. Okay. That'll get a bunch of you. Flip it.

Clip it, clip it. Um, you know, wow. Sally, Sally, Sue. Sally Sue. Sally Sue. God, I love that name. I heard a really cool name today. Yeah, forgot it. Oh.

Danny. I forgot to tell you something. This is huge. I was walking on the trail of White Rock. Sailor. Sailor for a girl. That's so cute. I'm writing that down because if we have a girl, it's a S name.

Danny. Look What I It's hard to see this video Look what I ran into It's a coyote Let me see A coyote was literally

Staring me down On the trail And I had to get big Oh my gosh No it was like guys It looks like a fox It was like First of all

First of all I don't think that rule Works with the coyotes Where you get big and they go away No it did But Danny it was so weird Did you feel one With the Yohie

You kind of like... I did the Yody. Yeah. Is that a bad word? Oh, it was just so funny. Oh, because Jordan taught me what Chode was the other day. And I was like, oh, Lord, thank you for telling me because that seems like a word I would like use by accident. And it's so disgusting.

No. If all didn't know, it's a little peepee. Oh, it's such a nasty word. So, so it was probably five feet away from me. And I... Oh, my God. Jordan. You are literally a football field away. No, no. Danny, stop. Stop. I was on point five. It looks further away than anything.

Does coyotes attack humans? Babe, have you not seen the signs everywhere around our neighborhood? Yeah, but like... There's an infestation of coyotes right now. Why? They're like killing dogs and cats and birds. Yeah, I believe that, but what about humans? No, I mean...

Okay. It's like a dog. That was big. That was a big dog. No, I know that looks like a fox. But it was staring at me. Like, did you see it in the video? It was like staring into my soul. Yeah, it reminds me of, um, Jacob from, uh, from, um, Twilight.

Yeah. Anyway, I just, I just thought it was so cool. I saw a Yody. John's one with the Yoder's. I forgot to tell, I could just text in people. Everybody. Oh, can you air job it to me? I'm going to post it on my Instagram stories.

Sailor Ramirez. Okay. We have to have another girl. Yeah, you've been talking about this fourth kid and I, I don't think we're on the same page. If I'm being honest, we'll talk about it. I'm going to refee you one night. Honestly, you're like, you're like, I'm kind of cool with it. The only downside is I wouldn't remember a crazy wild night.

Actually, the girls were talking about, they were telling me all these places that they, they go out and east Dallas. Like there's like these like iconic like karaoke night, not the one nostalgia plays, but like, have you ever heard of the goat? Uh, in Lakewood.

Anyway, it's like where all of like the old people in Lakewood go. That's what they told me. And, um, they said that both of their husbands have been roofied there. Their husbands were roofied. By females?

No, like it's like such like a dive, like scary bar. That like, they're like, our husbands were roofied there. Wait. People get roofied? I thought that was like a movie thing. No, babe.

Wow. I had a friend from high school got, she got roofied. Where does one purchase roofies? Is this like a dark? Probably the same place they're buying Ozempic these days. Is this a dark web thing? Man, I'm so naive to the world, I feel like sometimes. I just kind of always generally assume.

that people are trying to do their best. I mean, just good people. I don't know, like, I don't know, they might be, but I feel like that was really, like, like my eyes were really opened when like my friends in high school's parents grew weed in the backyard. And then I was like, oh, that's normal? Like, like, did that never happen to you?

No. I went to multiple parties where like the moms were like smoking weed. Huh. And like had it like in. their backyard. Yeah, that's, that never happened. And then I was like, whoa, my upbringing is so different than yours. Like, I understand why you are like that and I'm not. Like, your mom buys you weed. These kids were crazy, is what I'm saying. Yeah. You're giving the impression you grew up in like a very bad neighborhood. You grew up in Richardson. No, but. You went to JJ Pierce High School.

Okay, I also got an MIC in like one of the sketches neighborhoods. Yeah. Okay, Danny, we get it. You're bad. You're bad. You're hard. Is that what you're trying to tell us? No, but like.

You're hard. You've seen some stuff. Well, I personally had so much fun on this Friday podcast. I think that we, I think that it's time that we probably go take a nap before Danny's extremely social weekend. you need to recharge. You can't leave me with his back. I feel you.

I know you. And I know what you did this morning. You expanded all of your social capacity by 10 a.m. in the morning at the club. And then my physical capacity by cleaning the house. You have planned Friday night. You have planned Saturday morning. And you have planned a whole pool party at our house on Sunday. So you better get together, girlfriend.

I invited two different neighbors. I told you that, right? Yeah. One of the girls that lives on. our street and also did I tell you that like the girls at the club said that our street has a group chat and it's like iconic and I don't know no babe you're for sure not on it but you are definitely in it let me tell you're not on it but you are in it 100% uh well okay all right happy Friday everyone we love you so much but bye bye please know

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