De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - Sleep No More, Disappointing Followers & Meeting a FreeMason

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

Happy Wednesday De-Influencers, We’re SO back! And boy oh boy do we have a show for you. We’re talking all things London, sharing why some of Dani’s followers are #disappointed in her AND Jordan may or may not have exposed who Dani really is… Plus, is Jordan going to become a FreeMason?? Jury is still out on that one but we DO call our FreeMason friend and ask him ALL the things. They’re giving you a FULL recap of Sleep No More, Jordan gives his updated list of broadway shows and we watch an adorable TikTok video that Dani is now going to force Jordan to do.  Oh my gosh it feels so good to be BACK!! As always, checkout our socials ⁠@deinfluencedpodcast⁠ on Instagram and TikTok, maybe you share our clips and content with family or friends who may not know about us… That’d be pretty cool. Plus, De-Influenced has partnered with some pretty cool brands to give you discounts one some of our FAVORITE products. If you’re suffering from seasonal allergies Go to Claritin.com right now for a discount so you can Live Claritin Clear. Trust your gut with Seed’s DS-01® Daily Synbiotic. Go to Seed.com/DEINFLUENCED and use code 25DEINFLUENCED to get 25% off your first month. Right now LMNT is offering a free sample pack with any drink purchase, That’s 8 single serving packets FREE with any LMNT order. This is a great way to try all 8 flavors, get yours at DrinkLMNT.com/Deinfluenced.  Head over to dreamlandbabyco.com and enter code DANI at checkout to receive 20% off + free shipping! This code applies to new and existing customers. Cheers! WE LOVE YOU!! XOXO

And welcome back to your favorite podcast. De-influenced. We are back. We're back in the States. Did you miss us? Because we missed you. So big news coming off of last week. Yeah, the episode was kind of a hit.

I wonder if our numbers are up there. I feel like I haven't really like talked about it enough on my stories. But like that episode was kind of fire. It was kind of fire. I mean, I've never listened to it and I never will. But I think that it was fire because some of the comments on spot. were pretty fire. They said, Pretty fire.

This one was, this was one of the, we sound like such old parents that are like trying to be cool. Well, it wasn't mid. Okay. No cap. This one was,

this was one of the richest conversations of your podcast. I loved Jordan's choice and vote for more of his choices. Amazing podcast. Loved it. Long time listener. First time commenter. One more. Oh,

that was about Freemasons. We'll get to that. I am now a devoted follower of de-imluence because of this episode. So many tangible takeaways, but still relatable and fun. That was my vision. Good. I'm so happy. So why don't you pick another person?

I do. I have like seven. Okay. Who's your top three? I really want to get Jonathan Haite, hate on the podcast. Who's that? He's the one who wrote The Anxious Generation. We've talked about it a lot.

Okay. That one's going to be big. And how cool is it for us to represent social media and for him to tear us down? or tear down social media and talk about it's dangers and whether to stay in the kids. I think it'll be a really interesting conversation. I love that. The other person, we met up with your friend Allison, our friend, Allison, in London. Her dad is the president of Toyota.

Like, no big deal. Like no big deal. President, COO. But he's also the best person ever. And like, you know that whenever your daughter just, I mean, she cannot say enough great things about her dad. She's like, my dad is the most amazing person. he's like she just raves about her dad and like that's when you know he's amazing um i met him at a party probably two years ago when it was that era of covid where you just like couldn't do anything

right as a public figure or a brand like it was everything was so polarized yeah and he was navigating the marketing for toyota during that time and he had such interesting insights into like what was really happening yeah in uh corporate boardrooms and like why we would see all of our brands just kind of like virtue signaling left and right. And he like has really interesting insights into that. And I think before the next election, it would be really interesting to talk to him. And he's a Christian too. Yeah, he's a Christian.

Which would be really cool. So he's my other good. Christians doing business. Don't you just love it? I love it. I love it. So anyway. So John and Haidt.

Mr. Hollis. What is his first name? Jack Hollis. Such a strong name. Jack is just such a good name. It's such a good name. Who else? Brandon Fugel.

Would love to have Brandon Fugel on. Okay. I have some ideas for maybe this episode. Okay. People I want to call on the Freemason conversation. If they don't pick up the phone, then I have a whole other episode where I want to bring a pastor and that guy that we met at the church who was a Freemason. Yeah. And then maybe like a high ranking Freemason.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Let's set up a conversation. They can't talk about these things. They can't tell you much. Yeah. No, I'm serious. They'll get kicked out of them. They'll get it out of them. They'll get kicked out. We got Daisy to admit some info.

That got cut from the podcast, unfortunately. This is true. But we got it out of her. Well, I know you didn't ask, but do you want to know who I want on the podcast? Yes, of course. Of course. Sorry, I was just gloating in my win. That was really rude to me. So I've had this recent fascination with, I mean, obviously I always have had a fascination with these people, but I've been like diving deeper into. to female entrepreneurs slash influencer founded businesses. I love it. So I would love to have people like Mariana Hewitt from Summer Fridays. We already had Isabelle, you know, Maureen from Tart,

and just go like maybe Jamie Kernlema. Is it Jamie? Yeah, Jamie Kernlema from It Cosmetics sold her company to L'Oreal for $1.2 billion when they wouldn't even let her on to, like, they didn't want her on QVC or any of these platforms was because they told her that she wasn't pretty enough and that she, like, looked a certain way and no one was going to buy makeup from her. And then she sold her company for $1.2 billion. Like people like that, females like that, I think would be so interesting.

Amber? Amber Ben's box from, yeah, I'm kind of moving into like my business era. Yeah. Like I'm like, you know what I mean? You know what's so funny is I feel like you've actually been here for a while, but I feel like you're kind of like owning it as your own. You're saying you're not enjoying my content. No.

You would. You would go there. Tell us about London. Well, how did you feel about London? That was like kind of your second time? Yes, I am obsessed with London. I love how everyone is so proper. I like that there's a lot of history.

And the countryside was amazing. Are you glad that we didn't go to Amsterdam? No, I wouldn't say I'm glad that we didn't go. I would still love to go. Jojo is there. You know what's so funny is that... Jojo Fletcher's there. I don't know about you, but I was worried about leaving our kids for a week.

Like, I genuinely was worried. I was like, man, am I going to be there? And day four, like, feel really guilty. We FaceTime our kids every day. I thought you and I had a blast. Like, we committed to the adventure together. We had so much fun. I don't think that we really let, like, work pressure seep into the trip much.

Yeah. I had a great time. I would do that, like, once a year. year and not feel bad about it. Because we really haven't taken a trip like that since we had kids. No. Or even kind of since we got married. We did go on that one brand trip with Amarales.

But we didn't, I don't think we had sell yet. Oh yeah, you're right. No. Oh my gosh. We weren't even parents at that. Yeah, we would, we go on like short little work trips, but we never gone like on an intentional. This is our anniversary.

Like this is about us and our marriage trip since we had kids. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. What was your favorite part? Um, you know, it's, it's more of like a general thing, but like it, it was fun to kind of like reconnect and rekindle like our spirit of adventure together, like outside of our kids. Yeah. Because we used to do that all the time before we had kids. Like that was what was so fun about that era.

Yeah. And, you know, after having kids, it's like, oh man, like, well, we ever get to like go on adventures and stuff like that again. And so it was just really fun for that to. We were like obsessed with history while we're there. Literally like we would get y'all we would get into bed and we would just chat gbt like all the facts about war war two or like all these like the royal family like we were just it's kind of lame like we were just like learning the entire time. Yeah we were so I was so over history like we're in the Tower of London which was like that by the last day we were over it. I was so over it. I was like I don't care. I was like okay this this is great I got to get out of here. point you like learned so much and it was like okay we we have to go yeah we did a lot of history but

how about going to sleep no more okay so yeah we did sleep no more in new york we have to give like a a pretty intensive review of this because we built it up so much yeah how did you feel about it i think i told people on stories that i gave it like a six out of ten like definitely something i would do but honestly you can't anymore because it's closing down in like june so or go before june but um so for those of you all don't know, Sleep No More is this interactive, like, dancing, play experience.

It's like a show, but you're actually interacting with the characters. So you walk through a hotel, and the hotel is, like, set like a hotel, right, babe? Or is it? It's,

for a house. No, it's a hotel. It's a hotel. Yeah. And the characters actually are walking around, roaming around the house. It's a lot of, like,

lyrical dancing, interpretive dancing. And you can follow around each character and each one has their own storyline that they are performing. So each time you go through, like you could experience a different show each time just based on what characters you follow. It's pretty chaotic because the characters are running around, dancing around. So like you have to like chase like you're like winded. Like you're running around. And the people in there too, there's probably like a hundred people in there with you.

And they're like throwing bows. They are like aggressive. There was like one time where I like literally felt like was on the basketball court. I was like, get off of me. Like I elbowed her back. Like I was like stop. You're like, I want to see him. I'm like, no.

And at first I was just being pushed around. And then I was like, no, I'm going to defend myself. Do not push me. Yeah. Anyway. So yeah, so it was like so interesting and so cool. There was only one scene where we saw some booby. Yeah, I saw a boob.

You saw a boob. But I would say it's supposed to. like artsy it's not like you almost saw a pee pee but i knew i knew what was about to happen he took his pants off no he for sure was taking his pants off i don't think so and i was like hey let's go to a different room it was that oh but we stayed for the booby shot that one character with the beard you didn't leave for the booby shot you didn't leave for the booby shot you hear this he didn't leave for the boobie shot i i i wasn't trying to stay for the boobie shot she just kind of pulled her boob out and then i was like okay what do i do like i don't want to be weird about this she didn't pull her boo about this she didn't

She took her top off. That's what I'm saying. But like I didn't see both of her boobs. I saw a boob from the side. Yeah, they were like, it was like not like a, anyway, we won't talk about her boobs. They were great. So yeah, we did that. It was, it was cool.

My only thing was it was the retelling of the story, McBeth. And I did not follow anything. I have no idea what happened that entire play. Like their storyline was so hard to follow. There's no talking. It's all dancing. it truly made no sense. But the scene at the very end

where they're all sitting at the dining room table is so epic. It was one of the coolest things I've ever seen. It really is like from a, I keep calling it a medium, like a format for storytelling.

So cool. I think we agreed on the six out of ten. I just did not like the dancing. I was like, can y'all say something? Like give me something to like understand the story. I forgot the craziest part about Sleep No more.

Oh my gosh. Okay. This is actually crazy. This is crazy. So we go to sleep no more and when we walked there, so we were like so hot when we got to the building and it's really like as soon as you enter, they take you, it almost feels like you're walking through this haunted house and they have these characters come and greet you. And I'm like dying.

Like I'm sweating my face off. And so we get to finally go sit down where they have like live music and it kind of feels like you're, it feels kind of little burlesquey, but there's nothing, there's no dancers or anything. And you sit down and have a drink until they call your number. So it's so dark in there, y'all, you cannot see a thing. Like, I am shocked that I did not trip and fall and hurt myself, because it's like a lot of walking. We finally sit down, like pitch black almost. And I looked to my right and I'm like, that girl looks so familiar. That looks like Cody Sanchez, but like, there's just no way. Like, she lives in Austin. Like, why would she be here? It's such a small world

And I'm like, I'm not even going to say anything because it's so ridiculous that I would think that. Like, I'm not even going to bring it up to Jordan. Who's Cody Sanchez, by the way? Okay, so Cody Sanchez is a, what she, is she a podcaster? She's like, okay, she's a business personality. Yeah, like her whole thing is like on, she's big on Twitter. You know, I think we talked. Jordan's like obsessed with her, not as a person, but as like what she shares, her

content. Yeah, she's kind of like in the cool kids club of Twitter, to be honest. Yeah. Like she's very like cool. She covers like, like, um, she buys a lot of business is what she does. She buys businesses. Yeah, she buys like, honestly, she talks a lot about buying laundromats and like cash flowing them. And like that's her whole thing is she like teaches people how to buy businesses and then live off the cash flow of the businesses they own. That was pretty cool. I didn't know that. So anyway, we met her one time in Austin at this event and Jordan was like spangeling so hard. I had to like go and introduce him to Cody Sanchez.

Super nice. Anyway, so like five minutes go on. And Jordan starts eyeing her too. And he's like, bam, that's Cody Sanchez. I'm like, oh my gosh. I thought the same as I think, but we still cannot even really see her. It's like so dark. So finally we say hi.

It is Cody Sanchez. She's there with her friend and her friend's mom. She had come in for some like work event, come to New York, was flying back to Austin like the next day. We sat directly next to her and there were hundreds of people there. Like it was just wild. It was crazy. But it was cool because she was familiar with Sleep No More. She gave us like tips and tricks.

And yeah, so we got to talk to her for a little bit. Hi, shout out to Cody Sanchez. We love you. Yeah, I would say I'm going to skip around a little bit like giving Sleep No More six out of ten. Now Hades Town, which we saw in London. Yeah. 10 out of 10. Jordan cried twice.

I cried twice. I did it silently. No one knew. He didn't tell me until the next day. You wouldn't have known if I wouldn't have told you. But yeah, I was like, you know, like when you, when you're about to cry and you get that like lump in your throat. See, it's funny because I love Hades Town, but I didn't like it would probably go in top 10 for me, not even top five. Babe, I think that's heresy.

Like, I really think it's absolutely. It really is amazing. But it's like if you've seen Wicked or Lion King or Book of Mormon or any of these other shows, like it's to me it does not even compare. But it's top 10 for sure. See my new ranking of Broadway shows for anyone who cares. I gave it 10 minutes to process the show after I walked out. And then I have like a little, there's a couple of girls on the Divi team that they tell me all the Broadway shows to see. And I officially told them my new list.

Number one, Hades Town. Number two, a play that you're not supposed to talk about, but called Book of Mormon. It's a really good show. It's a really good show. Number three is MJ and number four is Hamilton. Chicago is like 300 on my list. He did not like Chicago. We took Bridget and Mike to Chicago and I wanted to show them Broadway and it was just so bad.

Yeah, they'd never been to like a Broadway show, right? I know. I know. Yeah, so I thought it was good, but it wasn't like the best thing I've ever seen. It was very good. Before we move on to our next segment, I want to give a shout out to Clareton for supporting this episode and providing us with samples. We're back in Texas with our babies and with our seasonal allergies, which is why I'm so

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event like was posting that they were there but then like all my everybody on my team was like do not post it and I was like well they're posting why can't I they so I didn't well I did and then I deleted it because I was scared you know what I would risk because one person we don't want to piss off is is meta that would be bad they're like nah you have your whole livelihood on this platform bye bye you know I will what I will break the NDA and say though we're getting in so much trouble okay say it no oh you say I know it's good meta this is helpful for you Adam yeah most Very amazing. Coolest guy ever. Oh, for sure. I mean, that walkout song. Dude, so cool. Very tall. Yeah. Very tall. But if I were to think of myself as a CEO, it's like that's who I want to be. Totally. He's cool. He's like, yeah, I got the weight of the world on my shoulders. But like, I'm just kind of the face. Like my team's the smart people. You know what I love to is like whenever people ask. Because they actually opened up a Q&A, which I am so mad I didn't get to ask him. I know. So many questions now I want to ask him. but whenever there was a question about like something that maybe meta is not doing that other

platforms or whatever he like totally owned it he's like yeah we need to be better about that yeah I was like I loved it he was so real he's like yeah I've noticed that we need to be better about that and honestly we need to hurry up because we're like losing time I was like thank you for just accepting that it was really encouraging the people that we met were amazing um all types of creators. It really makes you like, it broadens your horizons. Like you see how many different types of creators out there. And like you realize our bubble on the internet is so small. It was kind of overwhelming if I'm being honest. Yeah, I know. Like I mean, and honestly, most of them were super young. Yeah, we were like the old farts in the room. Yeah, they were like content creators that I was like,

you'll do anything for this. And I was like, man, I don't, I don't know if I have that gas that you have. But we did back in the day. I know. That's, So I'm saying is like it's kind of the new. We totally do have that gas. Like maybe not compared to what we used to. But like we flew to like New York for that event. Most people would not do that. Right.

But they like they these were vibey people. Yeah. Like they I was like you are a character. Yeah. They were. They were like out of movies. They were out of movies. I was like am I?

Like the way we were dressed. Or the sims. We were like the ones that stuck out because like we were dressed like normal. Yeah. So normal. Like so normal. But you said a lot of like your YouTube. day events. It reminded me so much of like VidCon or yeah, you have to be unique. Yeah. I was like,

man, you guys are the next era of Hollywood. Yeah. So, um, flew to London. That flight was like, not bad because I slept the whole time. Six hour flight from New York to London. So it was 10 hours on the way back since we flew from London to Dallas. It made me feel like I could do this with kids. I know. Which makes me feel like we should move to London. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Let's do it. Let's talk to our whole team, you know? So when we got to London, we did St. Paul's Cathedral. We did Westminster Abbey.

We had some tour guides, which, ugh, I just, tour guides are so great because you learn so much. But it's so hard because you also have to entertain this third party. It's true. And I just sometimes wanted to be with you or I just didn't want to be talking to anyone, but I didn't want to be rude. Like, you know me. I cannot be rude to anybody.

I can not. If they are there, I have to be talking to. I'd be fully engaged, but it was so hard for me. And so the third day, we did cancel our tour guide. They were great, though. Like Lucy, Hart Hart, like, love her. There's nothing on them. It's just a lot of energy you have to put out.

Well, and I think the challenge with, like, having a tour guide versus, like, going at your own pace is you'll never be able to fully communicate, like, what you are interested in learning about versus what you're not. Because you can't stop them and be like, don't care, move on. Yeah. It's like a pivotal moment in history. And they're, like, telling me about, like, the. style of the architecture, which is like, which is cool, but like they go into very fine detail.

Gothic, very traditional. You know, like, here's where they got the stone, where they ordered it from. And here was the conflict in ordering the stone. I was like, okay. Yeah. So it's just hard to kind of calibrate what you want to know and what you don't. Did you see I got in so much trouble by my, some of like my, I don't know if I would call them haters because maybe they were my followers that were just really disappointed in me.

when we facetined Stella in St. Paul's Cathedral. Oh, everyone was doing that. I know. Well, people were very upset. They thought it was very disrespectful that I did that. We had to show Stella the princess. No, it was Jesus. I was calling her about.

I phacetined and showed her Jesus. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I was like, sorry that I want to show my daughter, like Jesus on the other side of the world. It's so interesting for someone to get mad about that. when literally everyone is walking through this church with their iPhones out, you know, like filming, I don't understand. No, it was according to some of my people,

it was very disrespectful. Really? But I will say they didn't say not to have phones. The only place you couldn't have phones is when we went upstairs. Remember? We took the stairs up there because, well. You did that anyway, too. But I didn't post it.

It's like the whispering. It's the whispering gallery. and Danny's like, hey, Stella, we got a whisper. I'm kidding. I did not FaceTime her. I know, you were kidding. I pulled out my phone and held it against my chest. Yeah.

But I didn't post any of those. He caught you though. He goes, ma'am, mom, mom. Okay, now you're just calling me up. This is true. But no, we did FaceTime Stella. And you know what? I would do it again.

I mean, we told her, we told Stella that we were going on a castle tour. And we told her we were in a castle. And she was like, where's the print? It was the cutest. thing ever. She's like, why's the princess? And I'm like, I don't know, but there's Jesus. And she was like, her eyes were like this big. So yeah, we did London. One of my best friends, Allison, we talked about Jack Hall is her dad, president of Toyota. She was there studying. She's doing like an, a program, an interior design program there. So she showed us around.

She knew the cool places to go. We went to Hadesown. We went back to, we were staying at a hotel called Claridge's. Oh my gosh. My favorite hotel ever stayed at. at Winston Churchill stayed there. Back during when a lot of people were evacuating during World War II, there, a lot of the like shakes and like kings and queens from other countries would come and stay at clerages. And when they would call to get a hold of them, they would call the reception and say, hey, can I talk to the king?

And they would be like, which one? Because every single room had like a different king or queen. So there's so much history at this place. And so one night we went back and had like a jury. drink at the bar and we had high tea there. It was just so, we saw Tom. We saw Tom Hanks. Tell them about that.

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Yeah, we don't say anything to him or anything, but it was kind of a crazy moment that we're staying on the same floor as Tom Hanks. But here's what I will say, the amount of people who are not on Tom Hanks's side within your DMs is crazy. Because he's in the Illuminati? I made a slight joke about him being in the Illuminati, which like when you talk about the Illuminati and the Epstein stuff and all this stuff, there's like a couple key people that come up a lot.

Are the Illuminai connected to Epstein? No, sorry, two separate things that allegedly Tom Hanks did bad. Okay. So whenever you're talking about like Epstein stuff, it's like he got caught up in this whirlwind of like, it's like Tom Hanks, Bill Gates, like all these people. Anyway, I make a slight joke about, oh, we can't talk to him.

He's in the Illuminati. And I was, at the time, I was genuinely kidding. But like, people were like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Like, yes, yes, yes, yes. He's disgusting. Yes, he became a Greek citizen during all that. Yeah, that was pretty wild. That was weird.

That was a weird one. Huh. Yeah, so, but I think that for me it was enlightening because, you know, I say things like this all the time on the podcast in my own little echo chamber. But I was shocked at how many other people responded both to the Freemason stuff and to Tom Hanks. Okay, first of all, I want to talk about the Freemason thing because, okay, Tom Hanks being eliminated, who knows, we'll never know. Maybe we will know one day.

But like, I don't, I don't want to start that rumor. We don't know. The Freemasons, we met a Freemason at St. Paul's Cathedral. And we had a good conversation with him. This is a nice young Christian man. His wife was the sweetest person I've ever met. People in my DMs are convinced that the Freemasons are devil worshippers. Why?

Because of some of the satanic rituals they do. Now, before we go on, rituals don't always have to be satanic. Maybe they're not based in Christianity. But just because they're a ritual, that doesn't mean you're devil worshipping. For example, I was in the sorority, Chi Omega. I cannot tell you the things that we did are... They... Babe, you actually have to take that out.

You have to take that out. No, you literally have to take that out. Just bleep it. Just bleep it. Just bleep it. It's fine. You have to take that out. Okay, fine, just bleep it, and then we'll move on here.

But let me just say. You just destroyed sisterhood. Okay, but listen, we will bleep out what I said, but you are sitting here saying, some of rituals are not satanic. Meanwhile, what they did was, beep. It was not satanic.

You think that what they did to me was? I'm just saying like if I was an outsider looking and I'd be like, this is some pretty weird stuff. Okay. Also symbols of Kyo Mega, what is it? The owl. Yeah. Isn't that what's at the Bohemian Grove, the big giant owl? Okay.

Like the ball thing, B-A-A-L? You caught me there. But listen. But listen, some of these things are just done. Okay. I have nothing to say. I'm just saying, okay, here, let me help you. What I'm saying is that this is how people from the outside looking in do perceive things and are like, this is satanic.

But I know I need to read this. She's like, did I participate in satanic rituals at High Omega at the University of Texas at Austin? All these Reddit forums are like, yes, you're dead. Yes, you're dead. Well, you know what? I told you I had a surprise to your podcast. Our history, hold on. Our history.

Founded in 1895 at the University of Arkansas, Kyle Megga's largest woman's fraternal organization in the world with over 411,000 initiates, blah, blah, blah, blah. Throughout Kyle Megas's long and proud history, the fraternity has brought its members unequaled opportunities for personal growth in development. You know, we just ask Chad to BT if Kyo

Yeah, will you please? Yeah. New model. Chat Chitp. 4.0 used it. It's pretty wild. No, I use iris. The, okay, hold on just a second.

Is Kai O giving satanic vibes? Oh, wait, I forgot. You know what our symbol is? You're going to go out. Okay, any misconceptions about Greek organizations being satanic? Our symbol, I forgot to tell you this, was a skull in crossing bones. That was our, that's our thing, was a skull. But it was so ugly we decided to use the owl.

Okay, the official answer is any misconceptions about Greek organizations being satanic are typically based on misunderstandings of their rituals and symbolism, which are usually designed to foster a sense of community and shared purpose among the mentors. We all had to do it. It was like a thing. You know, I told you I had a surprise guest for this podcast. Wait, hold on. Kio Omega's symbol is the owl, a bird of wisdom,

which reminds the membership of their responsibility to strive for knowledge and understanding throughout life. What is the satanic symbol for an owl? Wait, Kaomaga's crest was adopted in 1902. Centred on the crest is the white carnation with the kai to the left and the omega to the right of the flower. Above these symbols are both the skull and crossbones and the owl. Beneath the carnation of the five letters, Roe beta, Upsilon, Eta, Ata, and Sigma, a laurel wreath used by ancient Greeks to honor scholars and heroes

surrounds all of the emblems known in love by Kyle Megas. You know why you also can't be trusted? Because your grandfather was the most high-ranking Freemason that you can be. What is it, 31st degree or something like that? 33-degree. 33-degree Mason. And that's why I don't like when people talk bad about the free- You know, honestly, this whole time, everyone's been accused me of being Illuminati.

Yeah, being Illuminati. And this whole time, Danny's actually the Hollywood plant that's Illuminati worshipping owls. No, my, it was a very prestigious thing. And the thing that I want to say about the Freemasons, it's probably very similar to being like in a sorority of fraternity. You do all these things. It's more for like the brotherhood or the sisterhood. It's a lot of rituals that are just based on tradition, not actually like what you believe. believe in, I would say.

But now the owl, it's like we strive for wisdom. That's a great thing. Our foundation that we supported was make a wish. That was like CIO's thing. Like there's a lot of great things that we did all together to like benefit society. But their rituals do bring you closer. Now, the one thing that I think can get

confusing in these organizations is when you are like invited to be in Cio, it does not matter what religion you are. They do not care about religion. So if one person is a Satan worship and the other person's a Christian, well, now you just got one Satan worship,

we're bringing everybody the whole organization down. You know what I mean? But that doesn't mean that everybody was like that way. But one of the greatest things about the Freemasons, he said, was that they didn't care about religion. They let everyone from different backgrounds because then it becomes a cult. If everybody believes in the same exact thing

and you're all doing the same thing, then you're just kind of, it gives cult-like vives. But the great thing about the Freemasons is everybody comes from different backgrounds, different beliefs, but they all are working together on a united front to accomplish one thing. His biggest thing that he was into,

this guy that we met at St. Paul's Cathedral, what did he say he was doing? It was like helping children with speech impediments or something. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, like, they're all, that's what his philanthropy was. Right.

But, and like, I think it's a beautiful thing. I, before I tell you about my surprise. Is somebody coming here? No. But I have a really good surprise. The introvert in me is like, please no. Okay. So what I will acknowledge is that to be a part of something like Kyo.

You're just upset because you weren't in a fraternity. No, it's true. All of my problems in life are come back. I come down to two things. I didn't play sports and I wasn't in a fraternity. All the things that like make you a team. But I represent a large swath of people who. The GDIs.

Yeah, the GDIs. The gosh darned independence. Who feel that they need to create a narrative fair or unfair against you guys because you left us out of your, you know, Greek parties and cut us out at the door and all these, you know, whatever. So you're saying it happened. Yeah, it happened. So, but what I'm saying truly is that to be a part of the, an organization that is probably like harmless,

like let's say for the sake of this conversation, Freemasons or Kai Omega or Tom Hanks and the Illuminati. And for the public to just basically pick apart all these symbols and then accuse you of being a Satanist, that's a, that's hard. Yeah. That's a hard thing. Like, and I will also say before I announced my surprise, Kyos were definitely the girls that you wanted to marry.

It was known. It was a known fact. I was scared to walk by the building. I was like, you guys are all so good looking and cool. Like, I'm sorry. I can't be here. So my surprise is we met, will you tell the story one more time? Which one?

Who did we meet? So we're at St. Paul's Cathedral. No, Westminster Abbey. No. Yeah. Where are we? Oh, yeah, the Gothic one. I'm so sorry.

I've been telling this story wrong the whole time. It's okay. It's so embarrassing. It's okay. We are at Westminster Abbey. I remember because the architecture was more Gothic. Very good. And we were in line going to look at one of the Mary's tombs.

And her sister, that's where like the term Bloody Mary came from. But honestly, I wasn't really listening to the tour guide. I was so like open. But there was something to bloody Mary. Anyway. And so I made a comment about the church. And I go, wow, this is really different. And then our churches back home,

we would never like have a tomb of someone buried. And we would never have these like people, you know, basically these monuments like put up in our churches to worship people. Like we just never do that. And the guy behind me goes, yeah, no kidding. He's like, our churches back home are very different. And I'm like, oh, an American. Yes.

And so then we see his ring. How did you like know he was a free mason? Did you see his ring first? Yeah, it was the same symbol that was on the building outside of our window in New York City that was like messianic lodge or whatever. Yes. And so then we start talking, his name is Spencer. And I was like, hey, what's this ring? Yeah.

And he's like, oh, I'm a mason. Do you know what that is? And I was like. You're like, do I? I don't think we told him that my grandpa. father was 33rd. No. So anyway, we start talking to this guy.

I ask a bunch of questions. I'm like, so is this like a cult thing? I was like, you know, a lot of people think you guys are pretty adjacent to the Illuminaudi and he laughed and he told me Shaquille O'Neal's a Mason and all this. So anyway. It's true if Shaquille O'Neal is. Let me not tell any more of this story because I have a surprise for you. You disappeared in Westminster Abbey and I went and found Spencer again and I got his phone number.

You're going to call him? texted him before this podcast. He's not going to tell us anything. Oh, he'll tell us everything. No, he's not allowed to. He'll get kicked out. No. The same thing with Kyle.

That's what I'm going to make you edit that part out. Like, I would get in big trouble. I can't tell you that. Do not edit out. Bleep it. Bleep it. It's funnier if you bleep it. Okay.

Listen. Let me call Spencer. So Spencer, our freemason contact. I did ask Spencer to show me the secret handshake. He said he wouldn't. Well, that was good of him. Hi, Spencer. Hey, Jordan.

How are you? This is, Jordan from Westminster Abbey. Hey, how are you? Spencer, are you back home? Yeah, yeah, we got home actually the day before yesterday. So do we. Are you jet lagged?

I was a little bit, yeah. I'm starting to feel better today. Oh, same. Good. So Spencer, you're live on the podcast and here's the situation, is that we promised our audience, as the journalist that we are, we promised our audience that if we ever met someone from the Illuminati or the We would dial them into the podcast and just clear the air, let's call it.

So I would love for you to tell us about how you got into the Freemasons and what being a Freemason means to you. Yeah. So starting off with how I get into it, I'm sure a lot of people have seen Percivoke Island or National Treasure. So that's kind of where I found like what a Masonic symbol was. And then I was actually at work one day. and one of my friends had a Masonic ring on. And I was like, well, are you freemason? He's like, yeah.

I said, well, what's it all about? Kind of like, you guys are asking now. He's like, well, why don't you come to one of our breakfasts? So they do pancake breakfasts once a month for charity or all that money gets donated that we raise. Did you feel weird at all after eating the pancakes? No, pancake, nothing special in the pancakes. Okay, got it. No secret recipe.

So, so, so, did that a few times and then decided it was something I wanted to look into. So I'd ask him, I said, hey, what do I need to do become a Freemason? And that's where you just need to kind of hang around for six months and do what they call prospecting. So you go to meetings, you don't could actually sit in the meetings, but you go, you have dinner, you hang out with everybody for a little bit before dinner and kind of show that this is something that you want to do for six months. And then you get voted in.

And then once you get voted in, you go through a process of like rituals and, you know, and kind of memory work until you become a master mason. And then as far as to what it means for me, I think I told you I was in the military. So a lot of it for me is about brotherhood and the opportunity to still serve. Being in the service you get out and you're like, well, now what?

And you kind of lose a piece of yourself because you're kind of only looking after yourself at that point. So for me, service and brotherhood was something I was really missing in my life. And for me, that's a big part of what pre-Masonry is. Gosh, dang, that's so sweet. I can't. How can you hate that?

Did Danny ever tell, she didn't tell you this. Well, can I tell you this? Yeah. First of all, Spencer, thank you for your service. Second of all, my grandfather was a 33rd degree Mason. Oh, wow. Thanks. I'm a 32nd degree, so that's awesome.

You actually, in order to get that 33 degree, you have to, it's not something you can just get. You have to be recognized for your work towards your fellow man and your brothers. So, I mean, your grandfather had done a lot of work, and it was very well noticed. Thank you. Wow. So, okay. So let's get to the juice here. You know, people, we're in a conspiracy culture.

We really are. You know, I told you, I don't know if I told you this, but we saw Tom Hanks on the fourth floor of our hotel. He was staying on our floor. And man. He's told everybody. You know, the comments we got back was like, people are truly convinced that this guy is wrapped up in some really bad stuff,

like the Illuminati and things like that. So I think that people attack the Freemasons in the same way. way that they attack the Illuminati, right? Do you get those accusations ever? No, I don't think that I ever have, honestly. Really? People see the good that we do, and, I mean, the millions of dollars that we donate. I think maybe the Illuminati get that wrap a little bit more because there's no,

there's no visibility into the good that they do, if any, right? They're more of, and, you know, not saying that Illumadie exists or something, but there's such a rationale of people who communicate and deal with, each other that make way more money than any of us ever could. And to say that there's not a group of those people doing that, I think we'd be wrong, right? Yeah. You do think that there is an Illuminati out there probably. Something to an extent of, you know, maybe not a formed organization, but there's

definitely a group of people who are looking out for each other's interest at the top 1%. For sure. So how many people are in the Freemasons? Is it like exclusive or if like I, you know, called you back after this and was like, hey, George is interested. Anybody who wants to that's a male can join the Freemasons. Who's over the age of 21,

who hasn't been convicted of any serious crimes or who's a felon or anything to that extent. So there's 6 million Freemasons worldwide. So it is the largest fraternity out there. And most of your college fraternities get actually all their secret rituals from the Freemasons. In fact, we host a lot of fraternities at our temple

because it's a really cool building. It's over 100 years old. So we actually bring a lot of, a lot of fraternities through there as well. Yeah, you know, Spencer, I was never in a fraternity. It's one of my biggest regrets in life. You know, we were just talking about Danny and her participation in a lot of the sorority rituals.

You're telling me that all of her sorority rituals trickled down from you guys at the Freemasons. I mean, we're the original first fraternity out there. So a lot of the same rituals that they go through, or kind of the way that they're set up are taking a lot of it from Freemasonry. Wow. I do have one question. Is it true that the Catholic Church forbids people from being Freemasons? It is true.

Yeah, it's been that way for a really long time back to like the 13th century with, gosh, I think his name's Pope. King Louis and Pope, I figured his name, but they'd actually kind of put it back together to get rid of free masonry because essentially the Pope owed the Freemasons a ton of money and the French kind of went up against them and kind of expelled all of them. So since then, it's been forbidden for a Catholic to be a free Mason. It's just because we allow any religion to be a Freemason, and they don't really like that. They kind of have that whole thing. If you're not Catholic, you're doomed. Yeah. And we don't believe in that.

I think one thing that we've learned from several tour guides in London is that the church, the Catholic church, they've had a long history of power dynamics and things like that. So that would make sense just historically. Okay. Are you, and you don't have to answer. answer this if you don't want to, but are you, do you participate in any type of faith? Like, are you a Christian? Anything like that?

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'm a Christian. We go to church every Sunday, me, my wife. You know, I grew up kind of in the faith. And for me, it's just, I think it would be a lonely world without faith. Totally. My personal opinion. Has there been anything in the Freemason rituals or anything about participating in the organization that has, like, rubbed you the wrong way as a Christian?

No. Not at all. I mean, you have to be tolerant, right? You can't be a complete Christian to the point where you don't believe in any other faiths coexisting. I think if you had that belief, you might get up the wrong way. Because a lot of our teachings are to be accepting of other religions. We have, you know, there's 32 degrees that you can take, and a lot of them do have to do with the lessons that we've learned from other religions.

So, no, not at all. I mean, you do have to believe in a higher power to be a Freemason. And it's just because a lot of our rituals are about, you know, spiritual aspects that wouldn't make sense without a figure of God. Yeah. Who are some major historical figures? Winston Churchill. Winston Churchill was a Freemason?

Winston Churchill and George Washington. Is that true? Yeah. Winston Churchill, George Washington. I mean, three of the founding fathers were Freemasons. So quite. you know, Benjamin Franklin. I mean, a lot of people are Freemasons, which is great.

And it used to be a lot more popular than it is today. I mean, if you went back to the 1940s through 60s, I mean, nine out of ten Masons were men were Freemasons back then. Yeah. It was just, it was almost like a social pub back then. Almost everybody did it because it was just very popular. Yeah. Spencer, we really appreciate you.

Let me ask you one last question. What is the biggest misconception about Freemasons that you want to clear up here on the podcast? I would say that everything secretive. It's not really a secret thing. It's an integrity thing. Any of the secrets that you want to go find out there, you can Google on the internet about premations. But we're not going to tell you that because it's an integrity thing,

not a secret. You can go out and get all of that out there. Got it. Nothing that we're doing is per se secret, even though to us it is. Man. Well, hey, we appreciate you. Danny, do you have any other questions?

No. Thank you so much, Senator. Tell your wife we said hi. Yeah, I will. Okay. I'll talk later. Bye. Sweet baby. What a sweet baby.

I just, I love it. I want to be a free mason. You know, you can't. They said men only. That's a hard PR thing to them. Let me tell you. They really want to open it up. It's okay.

I don't really. Yeah. You had coyo. I'm already taken by the coyos. Wow. That was interesting. I think a lot of times. like maybe some of these organizations that were founded so long ago,

like maybe the heart of it, I don't, whether it was satanic or not. Like, I don't know. But if it's not rooted in faith, it's going to become something that's not worshipping God. Which everything that isn't worshipping God is somewhat satanic. Like Satan is going to trickle into all of that, especially if it's not pointed towards the Lord. So I understand how things can get very like misconstrued. because it's like, what's like the bigger? Like I love that you're like, we're all doing these things and there's bigger heart behind it.

But like at the core, if the root isn't of that, it's going to get pushed around. Yeah. You know, the more that time goes on, here's where we'll end this topic. The more that time goes on, I used to really want to believe in this grand conspiracy that there was like this like set of elites that were pulling the strings and they were in control of everything. And like they all met at the Bohemian Grove and like worship. some owl and Hillary Clinton and all these weird people were there. But I just don't, I don't know if it's that organized. I think things do come to light, like the Epstein stuff.

Like I don't know how long these things are held secret. I think there are a lot of secret things, but they, most of the times I think they come to like meeting Tom, like, and listen, conspiracy theories, I'm an ally. Like I'm open minded. I've been the biggest ally on this podcast. But meeting Tom Hanks. All right of who? Just whatever's going down.

I'm just here. I'm here for it and I'm against it. Like when people thought that you covering your eye on that ad was Illuminati. I was like, no, no, no, no. Well, now I'm questioning. Danny might be a lumini. She might be a plant in this marriage.

I'd never tell you. But for me, it's like, I used to want to be like, yeah, there is an Illuminati, but we're totally not in it, you know? But now I'm just like, I don't know. Okay, I get it. Things that make you go, hmm. Just recapping trip in London.

We went to, we stayed in a place called Estelle Manor, the most beautiful place I've ever stayed in in my life. I can't even believe a place like that exists. It was like an old mansion that was like built in the 1700s that was renovated multiple times and is now a hotel. It's kind of like staying at a summer camp where you can sign up for archery or shooting or horseback riding or gardening.

Like there's so much you can do. But it's like, it's like, a boogie camp. Yeah, it's cool. I got a bullseye on my first shot. And your third. And my third. I had three shots.

First and third, I got bullseys. Like the third shot, I literally just went through my first bullseye. It was so amazing. I was so good at it that I was like, I was just. Dave,

you're a Texan. I know, but I was so good at it. Like, I beat Jordan. Like, Jordan did four shots like, yorning close. It was amazing.

It was amazing. I can't believe myself. Yeah. It was very cool. So then we, that was the English countryside. That's the Cotswaltz. Yeah. Beautiful place.

If there's anything that you're going to do in London, learn this from us. Churchill war rooms. Churchill war rooms. I mean, he's a Freemason, clearly, but number one thing you have to do. Yeah. It's incredible. It's basically like the underground bunker where Churchill lived with his wife and all of like the leaders in the.

military, not military, yeah. Yeah, the war chiefs. The war chiefs where they lived and basically planned the war, like execute, made all those decisions. And it was, um, like six feet underground. Like, it was just crazy. My recommendation is that you go to the Churchill war rooms and then you watch the movie, uh, what's it called? The Darkest Hour. Yes. Where Gary Oldman plays Churchill. It's like, that was a powerful night for us. That was so cool that we did that. Yeah. Just the one, two punch. We literally just like, today's episode is brought to you by Dreamland. We have spoken about Dreamland Baby on De-influenced a ton, but for the mama's, dad's, grandparents, or any

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Is it of my children washing the dishes? Because, I mean, that was pretty freaking cute. You have to do this with Stella. The accent is what makes it. Save your mind. Relatable. That's really cute. This is very cute for so many reasons.

First of all, Jordan, you have to do this with Stella. I know. I feel like I try every morning. The funny thing about Jordan is, you understand the dynamic between me, Jordan, and Stella. Jordan and Stella are the same person. Yeah, we are. They are so particular.

And they are so organized. And they are so on top of things. Like, and me and Bubba are just blown through life by the seat of our pants. Like, we're just happy to be here. And every night when I put Stella to bed, because Stella likes when I put her to bed and when, and then Bubba likes when Jordan puts him to bed. Every night that Jordan put, like I put Stella bed, he's like, please, please pick out her outfit. And I'm like, really?

I have to pick out her outfit on top of, like, trying to get this toddler to sleep in her bed. But we have to lay out all the perfect shoot. And he's like not only, he's like not only pick out the clothes, but have her buy in, get her buy in. Because you pick out her clothes without her buy in is not, it ain't going to happen. But so I feel like you should do this because you like you understand the importance of like planning ahead and not like that can be like y'all's thing. Yeah. I, the only just to be clear, the only reason I also get her buy in is because she won't change her mind in the morning. Yeah.

You have to get her buy in in the morning. Because she changes her mind. She changes her mind. And then honestly, like, and I think you've experienced this too, we will spend an hour with her picking out her outfits. And she's like, no, no, I want to change my shoes. Yeah, she's so particular. So particular.

That video is so cute. You're doing it next. Well, what a fabulous episode. We've been speaking for an hour and 20 minutes. Feel free to go follow us on TikTok and Instagram. The Instagram is De-influence Podcasts. And the TikTok is D-Influence Podcasts. And the TikTok is D-E.

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