De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - The Alix vs Alex Drama + Life Lately

Episode Date: April 23, 2026

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The following podcast is a dear media production. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast. Deinfluenced. How are you feeling? You're sore? I'm sore. I did my first workout. It's so crazy how workouts you really do, like, produce some type of endorphin or hormone or something because I cried in my workout.

Really? Yeah. You just started bawling? It's so funny how, like, this medication I'm on. the one that's like for postpartum. Typically like like Lexa Pro when I started Lexa Pro like I kind of was like numb to everything for a while until like my body got used to it. This doesn't like numb my emotions.

Like I still. It brings them out. No, I wouldn't say it brings them out. It definitely like I'm not like crying as much as I was. I was crying like probably five times a day. And I was like I have to, I don't know if I've explained this on the podcast. But did I explain like how I felt like every day was my last? Just tell them again

Okay so this postpartum The weirdest thing was like I I was living almost so much in the moment That it like hurt Because I truly thought that every single moment Like I would like be making lunch for the kids And I'm like this is the last lunch I'll ever make

Like so you're almost like so emotional about the moment That you can't appreciate the moment Because you're so sad that the moment's gonna end Yeah I know it sounds so. crazy but apparently it's like very common like it's and it was like I just and you you feel like today's your last day's deep to soak up everything and then like Stella would come out and it makes it hard to live life because then I like can't like you know discipline my kids or I can't like be like think

about the future because I'm like yeah whatever you want like you want ice cream and popcorn and everything right it's my last day so let's just do it all and it's your last day because you're going to die no it's like you don't you just are like wanting to soak up every minute like you don't want it to go away. Like I truly felt like I like these are my last days. I don't know why. Like I almost felt like I was like 99 years old and I've like lived my life. And I'm like this.

This is a good time. And I'm like it was so it's so weird. So it's taken that away to where I'm like, okay, I'm not I'm not 100 years old. I still have some life to live. So was that a hormonal response slash imbalance? Because didn't Ali, your friend Ali, didn't she have feelings of homesickness related to her? So apparently there's something called, starts with the D, but it's like when you breastfeed, you feel really homesick. And yeah, I guess I could maybe relate it to that same feeling of like, I miss you so much, but I'm with you.

Well, it's all like hormones being reproduced and added back and then creating these like very interesting emotions. Yeah, I don't know. But now you have a synthetic hormone. and you're a little bit more balanced. Yes, synthetic. It is synthetic. Yeah, it's a fake hormone. Yes.

It's not God-given. It's like a lab-grown one. It's a lab-grown, lab-grown hormones. So I'm really just not, I'm a synthetic Danny. Yeah, you're synthetic Danny. You also got an MRI today. But sorry, also with the Zorzouvet, zero-zuzu. I've been taking half.

I never, I never took the photo. Well, you took two. The first day. The first two days. It knocked me to like a different stratosphere. Yeah. So I decided to come back to diet. And then you took one.

Yeah, which is half. Oh, half. Oh, okay. I thought you went down to like half a pill. You're supposed to be taking two a day. I'll probably be taking one a day. Yeah. So I'm only half synthetic.

Because you didn't like, I forgot what. It made me drowsy. Yeah, you do not like to be tired. No. I'm more of an uppity kind of girl. Yeah, yeah. You do not like. I like red ball.

You would like, you would rather be sick than tired. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. So, yeah, so then I got an MRI. I'm just like, I'm all over the place. Only because I get, I decided I was going to finally go get Botox to relax in my muscles. But like, he's a neurologist, you know, so he's got to check all the boxes. So he's like, let's just make sure you, let's get you an MRI. It's funny.

I was sitting next to Danny when she was filling out the paperwork and she was like, you've got, you can't be telling them everything. Because she, she, it was like, have you felt? depression and she checked no and I was like Danny like be honest and you were like listen you like got mad and you were like listen don't be sending them down rabbit holes you got to control the information flow because otherwise it's going to become a circus it's so true though it's like you got to just kind of get what you want out of them and so you got to choose the information because like if you want Botox and your shoulders to stop getting headaches let's not go down this whole mental health path like you know I don't want to send them down

some wild goose chase. It's like just give them enough to where they know that I just am there for the Botox in my shoulders. Yeah. So, but you know, it was like per protocol to give me an MRI just to make sure. So that's why I got the MRI, not because there's, I don't think there's anything wrong. You know, it's like, he was like, MRI. I was like, sure.

Yeah. Why not? But the only thing about the MRI is, um, I got one probably six years ago, maybe seven. And I was very, very claustrophobic in there. almost panicked, you know. So then I heard that, you know, some people get Xanaxes like before they go in because they're like can make you freak out. So I didn't get the Xanax. So I was like, too much, you know, too many, too many things. So I just closed my eyes the entire time. And it was fine. It was just so tempting sometimes to open though. But I started, I opened while I was

going in and that big machine just starts to get so close to your face. And it's so, have you gotten an MRI? No. Oh, it's insane. Like, and you kind of feel like you're being buried alive. Like, oh. Yeah, so the machine just like, it's this massive machine, probably millions and millions worth, blah, blah, it's probably like millions of dollars worth. And it's just all this metal, like spinning around you, you kind of feel like you're in a spaceship and it just gets, and it's so loud. It's like, dang, like, me, me, me, me, me, me, like literally like that. And it spins around you and it gets this close to your face. this big machine.

I'm like kind of uneasy just thinking about this. Yeah. It's pretty crazy. I kind of felt like it's kind of like what you would think would happen if you were being abducted by aliens. When are they going to give you their results? Wednesday, two business days. So, yeah, I remember last time I was like really upset because I went and got my MRI

by myself. And it just kind of shows like how much I've gone as a person. Well, I said that I would go with you. and then you just bolted. Well, I was running late. Oh. And I was going to, so I actually Ubered there because I like, I was like really running late. Okay.

Well, I could have taken you. That's okay. Yeah. It's okay. You can't be in there anyway. Oh, really? Yeah, I don't really know what's going on, but it's probably not good for you to be in the room. Well, it's magnetic.

Do you tell them about any metal you have in your body? So, yes, that was the other thing that I kind of started, I forgot to tell them out a tooth implant. That's really dangerous. But I think I surely they're not like I know I have a screw in my gums, but surely it's not metal. I think there's like stories of it getting like ripped out. Really? Did you feel any pain in your tooth? I still got them all too.

Huh. As far as I can. You got lucky. You got lucky. Oh, they're crooked now though. Are they? Yeah. I was really sick this week.

I know. And I never get sick. I know. It was horrible. I'm so sorry for all the times that you're sick. I have such a greater degree of empathy for you. Wow, that means a lot to me. No, I do for sure.

It stinks, right? It's horrible, man. It's horrible and you feel so guilty. I felt pretty guilty. I felt thankful for you. Yeah. I said a lot of sentimental things. That's because I was nice to you.

Yeah. I'm not thankful for you whenever I'm sick. It reminds me sometimes. Anyway, sorry. But yeah, it was horrible. It's strep throat. Yours was pretty gnarly. It was so bad.

man. Yeah. So, so bad. And I just, you know, I just, I, I felt like it was the end. I was like, man, I had a good run. Yeah. It's, it's a strep really is brutal. It's brutal. It was funny when I came in, you were getting an IV. I was like, well, I was, I felt so guilty. And I was like, I don't want to leave you with four kids. I was like, so I literally texted the nurse. And I was like, hey, can you knock this thing out? I was going to get a steroid shot, whatever I need to do. But, steroid struts don't help strep. So the thing about strep, it's actually the best sickness to get because there's an antibiotic for it.

With my flu that I usually get or COVID that I'm like, there's nothing, you just have to write it out. And that's what stinks so much about my sicknesses usually because strep, there is a way to like fix it. Sinus infection too, I believe. Yeah. But I'm just a flu girl. Yeah, you switch flu A, flu A, flu A, flu A.

Flu A, flu A. And then sometimes we just throw a little COVID. it in there. Yeah. Just might not just stir it up. Actually, yeah. Strep for spring break. Strip for,

yeah, strep was for Easter. Yeah. I had strep on Easter weekend. That was hard. But yeah, hopefully I've been praying that our kids still get sick from it. The doctor did say that typically babies,

like usually babies will get it. Yeah. But I could see still are shutting. Who knows? Who knows? I rebuke strep in the name of Jesus in our household. There we go. Love it.

Preach. Preach girlfriend. Oh, let's look at our script. I forgot. I didn't even pick this up today. Oh, I'm going to a gala tonight. Mm-hmm. I'm excited.

I feel bad. Why? For my stylist, Alex. Oh. So, you know, she hadn't seen me in a while because I haven't been going places. Right. But she styled me for this event. And a lot of the dresses were really tight on my tummy,

which I kind of looked like I'm probably like, I don't know. know, 20 weeks pregnant right now. And just from postpartum. And she got a lot of heat in my, in my comments and stuff. People were like, this stylist. She's probably never had a baby. I'm like, oh, she hasn't. So, like, that's rude.

It's just rude. Yeah. How much hate are we talking though? She had a talking, she had some talking heads. That's good. That's a good degree. Talking heads is like when they take your video and then like green screen at level three.

Yeah. I'd say, I mean, if there's five levels. Yeah, level three. Level one is comments. Comments, yeah. Level two is DMs. Comments, DMs. Level three is resharing on your stories.

Yeah. With comments. Like, with it. Or talking heads. I would put all that in the same category. Level four is. Probably media gets involved. Mm-hmm.

Level five is like. Banned. You're gone. D-platforms. There's very few that make it to level five. Yeah. It's kind of like, well, you're, you probably never played it. It's like Grand Thept Auto when you get the stars and it gets like progressively harder to survive the more stars you get.

I don't know. It's like in level one, like the bike cops come after you. Level two, crime. If you like keep like breaking into cars. Oh, okay. The cops come after you. And level three, it's like the FBI comes out with you. and at level four, the army comes after you.

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So my theory is that what happened is I think that Alex Cooper is a very business-minded individual. Right. Okay. I think that Alex Earl is like business, but like more of like a girl's like hang out. Girl's girl. So my theory is that Alex Earl signed with Unwell, which was a great move for Alex Cooper. And Alex Earl was like, oh, cool, like I'll do that. Then what I think happened was that Alex Earle's dad started managing her.

Okay. And he was like, wait, like this was a terrible deal. Why did you sign this? Yada, yada, yada. And so the fight isn't really Alex Cooper versus Alex Earle. It is Matt, Alex Cooper's husband. Yeah. Versus Alex Earle's dad.

And now the girls are probably fighting. but I think it was like kind of the husbands or the males that are backing these people trying to kind of be like, wait, who's actually bringing more value or creating more value here? And then I think what genuinely started to happen was Alex Earle started eclipsing Alex Cooper. And I think Alex Cooper is very competitive. And so then that girl-to-girl blogger-to-blogger dynamic started being created. and then I think the relationship severed, but I would bet that Alex Cooper still has hold

on some of Alex Earle's revenue. Whether it's, I think it's over the Sips Margs company, if I had to guess, because Alex Cooper has like kind of a vertical now in beverage distribution because of her unwell brand. So it had been easy for her to be like, okay, like let's launch this for you. because that was like the whole unwell brand.

The whole unwell brand is like party girls. Right. You know, that kind of edgy girl that's like, you know, whatever. And so I think that that's why Alex Earle probably followed through in her contract of promoting Sips, but then in the background was working on her own thing, which is the real actives, which I don't think Alex Cooper has a part of. And now Alex Earle feels really powerful because that was hugely successful. So then when Alex Cooper,

talks about her, she's like, whatever, I'm untouchable. Okay. So the notes say Alex's podcast was dropped or left. Alex left the Unwell Network in February 2025. Alex Cooper said Alex Earle kept full ownership, implying it wasn't a messy firing. Alex Earl later hinted the situation was a hot mess behind the scenes and fans started to like kind of suspect that they had tension. So through 2025 and 26, both sides posted like cryptic TikToks and reposted by each other. Earl reposted content criticizing Alex. One of them was comparing her to a grim Reaper. But nobody obviously has said anything publicly. There's been like a lot of celebrities like Brianna Chicken Fry is like kind of like, you know,

made some videos about it saying Alex Cooper is a mean girl. Everybody is really on Alex Earl's side. I think that, um, so Alex Cooper finally publicly called Alex Earl out on TikTok accusing her of being passive aggressive, creating all this fake drama. avoiding just being direct. And so Alex's, Alex Earl said that she's going to kind of, she said, okay,

on it, like she was going to make a video kind of telling her side of things, but she still hasn't. A lot of people think it's staged because you see the video that was filmed horizontally at,

when she found out when, like the morning after Coachella, they filmed Alex Earl reacting to Alex Cooper's video and it was filmed horizontally. But couldn't have that been for her reality TV show? Yeah, I think that they, I think what happens is, this drama,

here's what happens, I think, whenever you have a TV show slash you're famous is, and you're like involved in drama. And I think this happens on a lot of reality TV shows. I think that drama is real. Like, I do think that,

because a lot of people are like, this is staged, this is fake, but I think that drama is real. I think that Alex Cooper is just a business girl. She's not a girl. girl's girl she will cut your throat to get a deal done i think she will post content like like she tries to get people to say things clip whatever and i think she got something embarrassing of alice earl

or um there's this tic talk of alice errol or cooper and alex earl that i think was deleted and it's Alex cooper have like has a grip on Alex earl's head and he's like binging it against the table and it says something like derogatory or provocative and i care remember what it was. But like I think I've heard that Alex Earl was really upset about that, but like Cooper wouldn't delete it or something. Something like that. And yeah, I'm sure there's like some really unfair deal that happened with the podcast. And I think Cooper is just like not, she's not in it for like the friendships and the good time. She's in it for like the dollar. But to be clear, this is, this is sorry, I missed this part of my theory. I think that the deal that Alex

gave to Alex Earle for signing on to the Unwell Network was probably a pretty straightforward deal. I think what happened was as Alex Earle blew up beyond Unwell, her and her dad started regretting signing the deal. And when you do a deal and then you regret it, it's easier to kind of like materialize the other party as the enemy. 100%. And you do that because like at the end of the day, you're mad at yourself, right? For doing it. But then you're also like Cooper, you were my friend and like you won't let out of this deal. Yes. Like we're supposed to be friends like supporting each other.

100%. But like let me out of this and Cooper's like, no dude. Like you sign the deal. It's business. And she's straight business. And so like I don't think Alex Cooper necessarily did anything wrong. I guess we're going to. I do think that Alex Earl will reveal what happened.

I don't know because I think that if she revealed the actual facts, I don't think they're damning enough for Alex Cooper to be honest. But the thing is people are going to like. But I think even if it. was business people are so Alex Earl right now it's the same thing if you look at um uh slow mo what's her name um not jesse Taylor Taylor Frankie Paul if you see what she is posting lately and you read the comments people are so for her they are like no one is upset with her like if you read her DM and maybe she's deleting deleting them but like nobody is they

are so team Taylor Frankie Paul that's how I feel like Alex Earl right now is and she's like Even if Alexer was like, yeah, I signed a bad deal, but she, but she wouldn't let me out. And she's made it sound like we were friends. People would be like, oh, she's so like such a brat for doing that. Well, it'd be split. It'd be, you'd have those girls who don't care about business and they're like, no, this is girl code. And then you would have people that are like, I don't understand. Like, this is on you.

It's just business. But I think more people would be like, this is girl code. And especially because like they acted like they were friends. It's like why people love Jake Shane so much because Jake Shane was like, um, interviewed by, I think it was Rolling Stone. And he told the interviewer like, yeah, if I interview anyone and they say something that they regret, like I 100% will always cut it out. Like if I have celebrities that I'm interviewed. And the Rolling Stone interviewer was like, really? Like, but isn't that what journalism is all about is capturing that like one slip up or that one

thing that they say? And he was like, I don't care. Like I will always, he's like, it doesn't matter to me. Like I would rather, you know, I don't want to like mess with people's mental health. and I want to give them that moment and give them that piece. And like, that's why people love him because it's like beyond business. Yeah. And. And I think Earl would go.

It's just funny because like no one's reading the Rolling Stone. It was a podcast. I know, but no one's like no one's listening to the Rolling Stone. So he like, eh, side point. That journalist is like trying to like vie for like actual journalism.

Yeah. It's like no one cares. Right. Exactly. But, but yeah, just so it shows like people are, are human.

Like, you know, and so I think that's probably what happened. And I think that if even if there's a 50-50 divide on like you just signed a deal like this is business, I think that Alex Cooper probably has enough enemies that would also come out of the woodwork that would then pile on to support Alex Earl. Whereas like I don't think that if Alex Cooper was winning the battle, a lot of people are going to come and pile on Alex Earl. Yeah, I mean, at the day, she seems generally pretty liked. Cooper is just like a really good business woman. Yeah, she's a really good interviewer. I'm sorry if you like people that think that she's not, she is. She's yeah. She's really good. And she's savage and like, yeah. It's all style. Like I mean, there's very shrewd people like that in business and they are successful. There's also people who do business not like that who are successful. It's hard to find that in between. Yeah. I mean, it's like, I've been asked a lot of times, like, I'm like paying for a service and people are like, tag me and share this.

Like, please, it's my work or whatever. And I don't mind doing that. But like, it's also a whole, it's like a whole other thing for me to like put on my list of things to do and worry about. But sometimes I'm so worried about the relationship that I'm like, I'll just do whatever you say because I'm so scared of like upsetting people. but I do feel like sometimes I do want to have stricter boundaries where I'm like, hey, I'm sorry. Like this is like a service I paid for. Like I really don't feel like working today, you know, and sharing what I, you know. But it's hard because I also want to be nice and help people. You know, so it's kind of like you have to find that in between and I do what I mean? No, I do.

I know what you mean. We, yeah. I mean, we, we've, I think that we have one style of doing business and we know others that have. a more Alex Cooper style. And I just, I feel like it's a very similar situation that I've been pulling a lot of my inspiration from where it's like, ooh, like,

it's not like there's like one that's right and one that's wrong. Like they both have pros and cons. Like I feel like our style, like we're maybe not always getting the best, best, best deal. Right? So we're conceding in the spirit of a lot. longer-term relationship, whereas I think other people will get as much out of they, as they can,

out of every negotiation, every deal, but then no one wants to work with them. Yeah. But both can be successful. It just depends on like your personality and your style. But I think Alex Cooper is like, hey, I'm out for me. You should be out for you. This is a game. We're going to play.

And I'm a savage. I'm a savage. Classy. But so, yeah. the only thing that's really interesting about this whole thing that made me feel like it was manufactured i don't think it's manufactured anymore was that they both have kate bailey i don't think that matters but it's an awkward position for her i think it makes it like more no for sure but i think it makes it more i think that okay bailey is her publicist they're both their publicist and she's like the best

in the game yeah but i think that that's what makes it like that's why they have so much attention I also don't think it's contrived because I don't think that this is good for Alex Earle's business right now Because her real actives was going up into the right and I think that this wait I feel like it's like so good for her business right now Like I am people that are Earl girls are like I want to support Alex Earl. Yeah, but it's it's very distracting to the launch of her business in my opinion I don't know I mean it's not going to hurt her business. I think it helps. Yeah. If there's a campaign that she comes up with somehow tying her product to

this beef, then I'll say it's contrived. I'll be like, Kate Bailey, you're a genius. I'll hail your storytelling and your PR. But yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I feel like what I was going to say about reality TV and like I don't think that any of this is fake. I think that when you're on reality TV or, you know, you're playing the game on social media. The drama isn't fake. You just latch on to the drama because you know that it's going to help in the end of the day. So it's like you try to just kind of squeeze every single bit of momentum out of it. So it's not fake.

But then like you're doing things for the drama. And it's like your things that you probably wouldn't do if the cameras weren't on. You're like, well, now the cameras are on. Like let's make a story out of it. Yeah. You kind of ride the wave with the drama. Like I could have done. that multiple times probably in my career what I I could have been like oh I saw this one video or

and I've done it a few times where like I made a you know a response back or whatever and I probably shouldn't have you know and then you could just like go back and forth and back and forth and just like and then it becomes this like thing it's tough dude opening up that can of worms you better be ready for a fight sometimes it's fun if it's like not that big of a deal yeah like the like attacking Alex like my stylist. I was like, I made a video addressing it last night. So I posted that video. She got a lot of hate and I was like, okay, let's talk about it. Because it's like not that big video. It's not like a character assassination. Yeah. You know, okay, I don't know if anyone else feels like this, but trying to keep up with nutrition right now just feels impossible. Like you hear

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it's it's silly every time i do i regret it why don't you get lacyc it's time it takes 15 minutes does it really it takes 15 minutes but then don't i have to wear patches over my eyes for like two days two weeks no no um yeah it might be time it's so worth it it's the best thing i ever did i'm sure like it's the prices have probably come down too i got mine for free 99 really so the guy in that the big guy Dallas that does it um key whitman doctor key oh yeah key whitman key whitman he's like he's got the big building on the side of the highway um yeah so we're but so like he was like oh just give me some leasing let me give you sight let me give you sight so yeah i don't know how much it is but i did a long time ago best thing ever did yeah um oh we have a q and a

oh let's do that that's fun okay so today we have a q and a which is so fun because we haven't I've done a Q&A in a very long time. Yeah. Do you want something deep or something light? Something light. Okay. What is your most useless talent? Oh.

He has a really good balance. You've always said that. That's so sweet. Yeah. Babe, I love you so much. Like, your balance is impeccable. I've never seen someone balance like you. It's kind of crazy.

He, like, you should have been like a professional skateboarder or like a BMX biker like that was your sport you just didn't know nobody pushed you you weren't a football player you shouldn't have done tennis nothing like that like you should have been like a professional skier or surfer surfer i could see that yeah yeah he's really good balancing huh yeah when did you first notice this like what's what activity have i done where you've noticed my balance probably skiing okay that's fair y'all he's like so good at skiing it's so weird because i don't really picture you as athletic. No, you, in fact, you typically are very forthcoming with people that I'm not athletic. Well, it was the day that I knew people. It was the day that I threw a football further than

you that I was like, no, I listen, footballs are hard. Football and basketball is really, football and basketball is like, it's really painful for Jordan. No, no, no, to watch. Basketball. No. In tennis, you're not good at that either. But babe, you are so good like skateboarding. But like you should have been like a motocross champion. But I'm glad that you're not because it's a little scary. That's kind of an interesting crowd. I think you know why I think you're so good at balance is you're so loosey-goosey. You have to be like very like relaxed to be balanced.

I'm like this. Which is so weird that I wouldn't be a great dancer. I know. I know. It's so weird. Yeah. But yeah. So he has very good balance.

And I don't know if it's useless. But. That's so sweet. What's my most useless talent? I'm not very talented. No, you're very talented. No, it's okay. Like, if I had to do a talent show, I would have nothing.

You do know the, what's the Jewish prayer? Borchata, I don't know, al-ah, al-hemal. It's funny. But it comes in handy, actually, more than you think. True, true. She's able to very quickly relate to Jewish people. Yeah, because all my friends are Jewish growing up. That's true.

Yeah, it has come in handy, but you do know that prayer, and that does, it's not useless. it's come in handy. The only thing I really wish I knew that I didn't is the macarena. It's a very easy dance. No, I know the dance. I want to learn the words. Oh, why? Because I just think it would be so cool if the macarena comes on and I'm like,

the pukata. Yeah, I would say that's pretty useless. Yeah. That's pretty useful. But it would be cool. So, anyway. I'm trying to think there's nothing that you do that I feel like oh that's useless I can cross-eyed myself is it wait am I cross-eyed I would say maybe well no that that could have come in handy too

I'm gonna say country Western swing dancing but yeah I haven't practiced it in a long time so I'm probably not that's good there's a lot of camps that you went to that were probably useless acting camp I went to newspaper camp typing camp typing camp typing camp computer camp computer breakdown camp that was where we took apart the computers and created things yeah um i went to oh i went to comedy camp i really thought i was i really thought that i was like gonna have my own show that was kind of like amanda bine slash that's a raven but really amanda bines like the manna bine's show was like my what do you call it muse totally like i was like i am destined for that you kind of did it

I know, kind of in my own way. Yeah, in your own way. But that, like, I wanted to be Amanda Bynes. Right. She was just everything. So, yeah, I went to comedy camp and improv camp did that one too. I think my mom just didn't want to hang out with me in the summers. I think that's what happened.

Because, like, I would just, like, and my camps would overlap a lot of times. So I'd be gone from, like, the morning was basketball camp, and then improv camp was later on. Do you want a deep one or a light one? Light one first. Okay. You can give me a deep one. Whatever. What's your toxic trait?

Oh, I have so many. Why are you talking to yourself like that? I rebuke that. No, but that's like funny toxic traits. Okay, okay. Like I, um. I rebuke you talking down to yourself. Okay, but no, it's like funny toxic.

Okay, as long as you think it are funny. I had a really good one that, um, oh my gosh. I mean, I eat a lot of peanut butter. A lot of peanut butter. Like sometimes I just will go in there and just get a scoop. Like all the time, really. But yeah, my toxic trade is peanut butter. And buying really extensive bags and then returning them the next day.

That is so true. I do that a lot. And then I often, if anything is wrong, I'll take ad bill. That is so. Like my eye could hurt, like, and I'll be like, I'm popping some to Maddil. That's a toxic trait. I'm getting off my Zyrtec. Yeah.

So I'm like pretty soon. I'm really just going to be on Lexapro. That's big. I know. What, what made you? Was there, was it our conversation that inspired this? No, I've, I've never, I've always. So there's one, there's one study that shows like a correlation, there's a correlation between like two things that

lead to an early death. And that's the amount of prescriptions you're on. Really? Yeah, we've talked about this on the podcast. But the one correlation is if the people that take the most medications typically die earlier. But like that kind of makes sense because maybe they're, you know, they have diabetes. So they're taking more medications. And so I don't know if they're, they didn't specify like mental health medications. But still, I think the goal in life is to be on as little least amount of medications as possible. Like Goey. like even when she's like 95 years old like she was like taking like one medication my dad is very healthy every time he's getting you know he goes to the doctor they're like great my dad like never

has taken medications so me and my mom are a little screwed but you know I've been trying to get off of anything that I like I wouldn't say depend on but like yeah I got off of my wellbutrin I'm not on that anymore um-hmm the zorzube is going to end because it's only a 14-day cycle cool. I'm not on a moxicillin anymore for my strip throat. So I'm really, we'll just be on Lexpro. Wow, you're going to be all natural row. Almost. Almost. I mean, you think you'll ever try to get off the Lexpro? I don't know. Maybe when I'm like, my kids are older. It's kind of hard right now. I'm needed. Um, do you read your Reddit feeds? No. We kind of, we kind of Sometimes, like, I would say like, yeah, I think I broke that valve a couple times, but, um, because I have looked at it before.

Ooh, brave. Yeah. You know, but like what I found, it's like, I don't know, for some reason when I get hate, it doesn't hurt me as much these days. Sometimes when she feels like she's not getting enough hate, she actually says, I want to stir the pot because I want more of it. Okay. So there's like, here's what she says actually. She's like, I'm relevant. No one hates me anymore.

I always know when I'm relevant because I'm getting hate. And then there's other times where she'll find that other bloggers have more haters than her. And she's like, why does she have so many? Why doesn't she have a stalker? Well, she has a stalker. Why don't I have a stalker? Or like one of our friends like, Janelle will come to her and be like, oh my gosh, I have so many haters. And you're like, nothing.

I got triple the amount. Remember yesterday when I got that picture from that guy? Yeah, she got, she got a guy who was like shirtless, who sent her a shirtless pick. Gross, dude. Gross, dude. And I was like, I still got it. I was like, I still got it. Yeah.

Guys are sending me selfless fit too. It was a nice little confidence for her. I was like, babe, look, this guy sent me shirtless pick. And I was like, your girl still got it. Oh, man. No, it's so crazy. Like people, I think, assume that I have like really, really crazy people like in my DMs or people are so normal to me these days. I agree.

I say the same thing. I'm like, I don't. It's I don't have people. Like, are like, are you scared for your safety? I'm like never. I feel like our friends that are like have less followers and less haters on the internet have crazier hater stories than we do. I don't have. Anything like, yeah, that crazy.

See, I'm irrelevant. And you talk about taking talent when I'm pregnant again. Who are your bucket list podcast guests? Ooh, that's a good question. Obviously, Taylor Swift forever. Taylor's was makeup artists. Taylor's with stylist. That would be interesting.

Taylor Swift's assistant. Okay, so moving on. My dream. Oh gosh, I know I have somebody. who would be your as well i think an exorcist we could probably we could probably make that happen yeah we can make that happen okay um that that's a good one so it's kind of hard to trump yeah no that'd be awesome or someone no that's it that's it that's my that's my dream well just who else were you going to say well there's always all these scientists that are missing

right now. And they were all connected to like propulsion and like a lot of crazy stuff. What's propulsion again? It's like the propulsion system that like drives a aircraft. So like propulsion specialists are the ones that

are trying to figure out how UFOs float. Yeah. Apparently. So a lot of those have disappeared and they were connected to like a lot of like nuclear energy. Huh. And like 10 of them.

Bye bye. Well, like half of them disappeared. And then there were a couple that like were just assassinated. Mm. So I would want to know someone who knows a little bit about that. I know mine. Mine would be Theo Von. But see, here's the thing is that do you actually want to meet these people?

Yeah. See, Theo Vaughn, I would actually want to meet. Like Taylor Swift, I don't know if I really want to meet her. Like, I would be okay without meeting her. The Yvonne, I don't expect Much. Like I just expect like a real conversation. If he was uncomfortable, if he was awkward, if he was a little like maybe even got a little snippy or if he was really funny or whatever he was, I would be like, yeah, I would expect that.

Yeah. I don't expect like this like perfect person. And that's why I, yeah. Like I could see myself being friends with the Yovan one day. Not like buddies where we're going like hanging out. obviously I'm married. That would be weird. But like I can see him being a part of our ecosystem one day. Yeah, for sure. For sure. I'd like to interview him. I'd like to interview Bradley Cooper. You met him. Yeah, there's something about him.

Like a mystery or? Yeah, he just, first of all, his eyes are so blue that it's wrong. Are they bluer than summit's eyes? Yeah. It's like not normal, the color of his eyes. He can't trust him. You said that about some of you. You were like, I'm worried his eyes are too blue that people aren't going to trust him. There's something about people with really, really blue eyes.

Blonde hair, blue eyes. No, you don't have that blonde hair. Well, I'm just saying that's... When your eyes are crystal blue. Mm-hmm. It's like they're like a night walker or something. Yeah, and they have a special privilege. privileges. Oh, yeah.

That other people don't have. They look smacks. Doors just open for them. Yeah. And that's, it's just like when you, it's like girls that have been pretty their whole lives. Yeah. They, they, they didn't get like the full training of life. Because they haven't had to. They haven't had to. They had, they got to skip a few stages, a few levels. So they didn't get that development. Same thing with people with really crystal blue eyes. That's true. Got to watch out for them. It was very, very true.

Yeah, so I'd like to see him in his eyes again. And then, um, and then, um, what am I do? Hmm. Well, I better get going. Where are you on? The airport. But actually, like, where are you going, actually? I'm going to Lexington, Kentucky.

You're going to go ride some horses? I'm going to go watch some horses race for a bachelor party. I'm going to call Peter. Honestly Yeah They're there They're at all the races Are they there?

I've seen them at like two or three They're like protesting outside Really? Wow Which is fair I mean everyone's like listen I don't own any of these horses Well I am going to own a horse one day But I'm going to be really nice to it

So you all have to come over for me Well listen These horses just to be super clear Are very well taken care of Yeah they are live in nicer stables than our houses. I agree. And they are worth like hundreds of thousands of dollars to these owners.

So yeah. Yeah. I mean, they just and they love to run. They love to run. The only time that they have to get put down is when they injure themselves. But that's just like any animal. Yeah. It's not like if they lose a race, they're like, you know, boom.

It's more like if they injure themselves, it's like there's no way to heal that. Well, or I'm sure they don't have to. Like they could give it to someone and rehabilitate the horse. I think if they if they can I think the owners typically do that because you can still sell the horse. Yeah. You know. But it's like but if the if the when you're running I think I don't know this for sure. But when a horse is running at that speed and they break a leg or something, I think it's so.

Okay. Now I'm like, no, I'm sad. Yeah. It's really dangerous for the jockeys too. Have you ever seen a jockey in real life? No, are they little? Oh my gosh, they're so little. But they're like, they're like jacked.

Really? Why did it be so strong? I mean, they're dealing with a very powerful animal. They're just very fit, like low body fat because they care about their weight. Because the lighter that they are. Yeah. You know, and they're all, they all seem Spanish, which I don't, you know, maybe that's just a thing. Why don't they have female jockeys?

I don't know. It's very dangerous. Very, very dangerous. So you're saying like females couldn't do it. No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying like I think it's it's kind of like, why are they not more female dirt bikers? Maybe there are.

Or why are they not more female skateboarders? True. You know, X games people. Yeah. But yeah, it's like, it's very dangerous. Because you know, when you're coming around these turns, like they're like, they're like butting up against each other, these horses. Like you fall, you're kind of dead.

Yeah. And you know how like you want a horse because they're really smart and you wanted to like see inside your soul? When you're when you're betting on these races, you know, like if a horse lost the race before, it goes into like the spread on the bet because it's like psychologically they could be down or like in their own heads that they lost the last race. Like they know when they lose or win these races. there's like a confidence element to the horses too you know wow it's it's it's it's a very interesting I would like to know and maybe I'll ask chat Shoeita after this is like the ranking of like the most smart animal it's like the top 10 smartest animal let's do that right now yeah really interesting question like who should we well I know octopusus octopi might be but actually it's they're actually called octopuses I remember I good okay so Octopuses might be the smartest.

Animals. Right. Dolphins are up there. Really? Okay, here's the rankings. That is so cool to me. Like that dolphins are smart. That is so cool.

It makes me want one. Here's the rankings. And I don't know if this is an order. Chimpanzees. What? Oh, man. I would love to have a chimp too. I love them.

They turn on you. They're kind of mean, I bet. They're strong. Cats. They have thumbs. Cats. Cats. Smart.

Really? That makes you want to have a cat, too. Pigs. What? Yeah. We eat them. No, I know. And then we really kill them in pretty inhumane ways.

So if they're smart, it's really sad. Oh, that is awful. Oh, I read on Twitter that they found out that lobsters feel pain. Oh, no. And we've been boiling them alive. Oh, no. I can't. It's horrible.

Pita, save the lobsters, please. Save the lobsters. Please. I was really, pigeons are smart. What? Crows. That makes me feel like they poop on us on purpose. You know?

Elephants we've known. Wait, why are not, why are octopus is not on there? Oh, they are. Sorry, we just already knew that. They should be the number one. Yeah, dogs, observant dogs. What kind of dogs? Because some dogs are dumb.

The picture here is a golden retriever. were really uh-huh no that makes me so sad yeah so I mean there's some smart animals out there pigs thank goodness we're at the top of the food chain

parrots rats squirrels squirrels I don't I don't buy it I'm gonna be honest I mean what's the smartest animal in the world this is like my chat jibu tea Chimpanzees.

Yeah. Chimps. What's the second? Where does the animal in the world? I'm sorry. I know. Because I can't. Dolphins. Wasn't there a story recently that a dolphin kidnapped a human?

But they passed the mirror test. They recognized themselves in the mirror. Is this a thing though? What other animal recognizes themselves in the mirror? I think a dolphin kidnapped a human. Well, then. And we try, they pay us,

or we have to pay this one with them. Dolphin, kidnapped, human. Well, didn't. Oh, sorry,

it's completely fake. The viral story claiming a Florida man was kidnapped by dolphins to build an underwater city is completely fake. I fell for it. I only, I skin past the because I didn't really care, but I did fall for it. I want to be honest.

Um, You know, babe, I think I got to really go fast because it's 119. And if I left right now, I would be at the airport at 201, which is really dangerous for me because my flight's at 250. And you're checking a bag. So you better get to it. I better get to it. And I know this is part of your master plan because you're going to miss me too much. Babe, I'm going to see you in like not tomorrow with an exit.

Why does it feel like forever? I know. To me. We've been getting along so great lately. Haven't we? I know. Have you noticed that? Because we just love each other so much.

There's multiple times in the past like five days where I've been like, I just love you. And we go to bed saying, I love you. I love you so much. I know. And we both mean it. It's not like performative. Babe, I've never ever said I love you and I didn't mean it. Yeah, me either.

Okay. Maybe like twice, but... Really? Just, yeah. Really? I wanted to feel it, but I was mad at you. Oh, I even love you when I'm mad at you. Oh, I love you too when I'm mad at you.

But I wanted to feel it in that moment. I wanted that little flutter back in my heart and it was feeling hard. Isn't it funny how you really can keep the flutter alive? Yeah, for sure. After eight years of marriage. But I feel it in very random moments. Do you feel in random moments? Yeah, but I would say I feel it daily.

No, I feel it daily just in the most random moments. It's like, oh, we're about to watch this show. And I'm like, glad I get to do that with her. You know? Oh, that's so sweet. And I would say that it's funny because the more that life goes on, the simpler the moments can be to create the flutter. I know.

Like we think about when we first got married, we were like going to like Paris and Cabo and I was like, this is so fun. Yeah, but it's like I didn't love you as much as I do now. No, I know. And now it's like, I mean, I would love you if we went to Cabo or I would love you if we just went to yaya football. Same. You know? Same. It's like, what a blessing.

Great, praise Jesus. Well, you remember that. Did you see that really? I know the lady with the plant? No, but I'll watch it on the plane. Okay, I really got to go. Okay, okay. Okay, bye.

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