De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - Top Forbes Creator Calls Out Ice Cream Conspiracy
Episode Date: June 19, 2025Happy Thursday De-Influencers! We hope you're ready for this week's episode because let us tell ya, our podcast queen Dani sure is! She's giving hot takes on how you should be helping your single... friends, sharing THE broken ice cream machine conspiracy and of course we're talking about the Forbes top creator list. Plus, Dani is reflecting on what's changed from content creating in her 20s to now. OHHHH and we're trying a new format for our video watchers so let us know in the comments if you like this new layout!! We scored some great deals with a few of our favorite brands for our listeners: We've worked out a special deal with Hiya for their best selling children's vitamin. Receive 50% off your first order. To claim this deal you must go to hiyahealth.com/DANIAUSTIN. This deal is not available on their regular website. For flavor that pops, De-Influenced chooses Simply Pop. Go to cokeurl.com/simplyPOP to find out where you can try it. Huggies Little Snugglers, now with blowout protection in every direction* *Sizes 1-2. Huggies. Huggies.com. Shop the best selection of home improvement online. Get renovating with Wayfair. Head to Wayfair.com right now. If you’re ready to build your own empire—whether it’s merch, a passion project you’ve been sitting on, or even a summer side hustle, get on Shopify.com/dani and make it happen Go to www.vivrelle.com and apply for a membership today using code DANI for 30% off 1 month of membership - the code will also allow you to skip the Vivrelle waitlist. Skip the junk without overspending. Head over to ThriveMarket.com/DANI to get 30% off your first order and a FREE $60 gift. That’s ThriveMarket.com/DANI. Make sure you’re subscribed to our official channel on YouTube, @deinfluencedpodcast, and follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your De-Influenced fix! Stay connected with us on Instagram and TikTok @deinfluencedpodcast, and as always thank you for being a part of this journey. We'll see you next time! We love y'all!! D+J Produced by Dear Media
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Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast.
D-influenced.
Just a solo episode.
A solo episode, which is you?
No, just you and I.
Oh, just...
We've been doing a lot of guests.
We have, we have.
We've had a...
Stockpile of guests.
We have come in.
Why do you go over some of the guests that we've had?
Well, we're spacing them out because the internet might freak out.
It's a lot of intense guests.
Intense, yeah.
Well, not really. I mean, mine were not intense. They could have been intense, but they were not intense.
Yeah, yeah. Well, say who you had on.
I had some of the financiers behind the House of David, the new Netflix show or Amazon Prime show.
Financier. So they just, like, they donate to support the show.
Yeah, and they're producers.
Okay.
And then I had a billionaire on named Tim Dunn.
What are billionaires like?
Babe, he flew Southwest here.
It was the most confusing thing ever.
Yeah, but he's just like so down to earth.
That's like we've talked about visiting him.
He was wearing new balances.
Yeah, our Gen Z producer says she and him had the same sneakers.
The new balance sneakers.
And he has driven the same truck since 2013.
And he flew Southwest here.
I made a joke.
I said, would you fly Southwest here?
And he was like, yeah, I actually did.
And I was like, why?
Well, let's also be clear.
He lives in Midland.
Midland.
What else?
Southwest is like known for flying Texas.
Direct.
It's like it would take longer to like what other.
But Danny, he made $12 billion.
So like you're saying like take your plan.
That's like, that's like a, that's like 50 cents.
Yeah.
To him.
It's crazy.
It's crazy business.
Wow.
That is crazy.
He was a sweet baby.
And then we had Alex Clark.
Mm-hmm.
How did your people respond when you said that you had Alex Clark?
They love her.
Yeah.
She's beloved.
I mean.
Except for by Big Pharma.
Well, health is bipartisan.
She is coming after.
Yeah.
Health is bipartisan, but not when it comes to Big Pharma.
That's totally correct.
Yeah, yeah.
But she was fun.
Yeah, she's a who.
I really want to set her up with someone.
My only issue is I know no single men.
No, no, I, I've got one.
Yeah, we do have one.
We do have one.
Yeah, that could work.
That could work.
So it can honestly work for a lot of different reasons.
Well, why?
Well, just based on her criteria.
Yeah, she was like, I like someone funny.
Yeah.
I like someone.
Musical theater.
Yeah, outgoing, confident.
Yes.
But also it's.
not going to be intimidated by her career.
Yes.
Like it supports her career.
And I was like, wait, this kind of is the perfect person.
I mean, I've only met him once or twice.
It's one of Jordan's friends.
Yeah.
So I think, I think it's a good fit.
We'll see.
Have you ever set someone up and then they ended up getting married?
Were you a good wingman?
I think no and no.
To be honest.
So you never helped like one of your friends get a date?
No.
Wow.
I know.
it's kind of weird now that I think about it.
That's kind of sad.
Well, it's not because I was like, I'm not going to help you.
You're just like, I don't think I can help you.
It's like I was not around at the time of people getting set up with each other.
Well, where were they?
Where were you?
I don't know.
Like, when I think back to...
Did you ever go out with the guys to meet some girls?
No.
I like can't remember back to like any of these times.
Like, we would always have...
Maybe it's because in high school...
and college, I was part of like, the Christian community. The Christian culture. And so like,
you never like went out to meet girls. It's like you would just do big group hangs. Oh, yeah,
yeah. I, I dabbled in that a little bit. And then, and then people would just kind of like,
naturally pair off from that. Yeah. So like if I was a, I guess I was a, a Christian wingman in the sense
that when they came home and they were like, man, I just hung out with Veronica. I just met my wife.
That's my wife.
Like, you know, I would be encouraging, I suppose.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Man, there's like a whole fascinating discussion around Christian wingman.
Christian wingman?
Yeah, wingman.
Why?
It's just like, what does that even look like?
You just go up to, like, okay, so I was at the concert with the ACMs with Shawna and some guy that worked the concert took us to the bathroom.
And I was like, hey, are you single?
Like, my friend is.
That's right.
You know, and then he's like, no, I have a girlfriend.
I'm like, okay, well, you know, if you would have been single, I've been like, you should meet my friend.
You all should exchange numbers.
And then I would force them to exchange numbers.
And whether he calls her or not, that's up to him.
But like, I made it happen for her.
Wow.
Yeah, I used to do that all the time.
Really?
Because here's the thing, it's not scary because you're not putting yourself out there.
True.
You're like, I'm trying to help you and you.
Like, I'm just the messenger.
I'm just a value ad.
I'm just a value ad for boat.
Exactly.
And so I used to do that all the time because it's not like, hey, like, I'm like, hey, I'm like,
Hey, for girls, it's so easy because you're like, hey, my friend thinks you're cute.
Yeah, totally.
You know?
Or same with guys.
You could go up to a girl and be like, hey, my friend thinks you're cute.
Who was it that was talking to us?
But then you kind of don't have balls.
It was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was Tim.
He was saying that the number one thing that men fear the most is rejection.
It's female rejection.
And he's not wrong.
I could see that.
No, it's so true.
Even from our wives, we fear it.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, no, it's like, it's, he was, I don't remember the context why he said this, to be honest, but he was deeply right about it.
Yeah.
So I think it's harder for guys is what I'm saying to go up to girls and be like, hey, my guy over here.
No, it's so easy for a guy, because you're not being rejected.
It's not personal.
True, true, true, true.
But it's hard, but like it shows more balls in like class whenever you do it yourself.
Like, hey, I think you're cute.
True, true.
So if you're like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
You're right. Guys wouldn't do that where it's like, hey, hey, go tell them. Go tell her. Yeah, we used to do that all the time. No, guys don't do that. No, guys used to do that all the time. Really? Yeah, back in like college. Hey, my friend thinks you're cute. And then the girl's like, oh, yeah, that's what, guys, if you know a single person. Yeah. And you got to have their back. It is on you that they get married and that they find their love. Hot take. You got to take care of your friends and help your friends get out there. And when you see two single people in a room, you get them together. Even in a
if they don't end up working out, they can be friends and then introduce their friends.
Like, we got to just get the conversation going. And if you have a single friend, that is your
responsibility. We've got to turn around. We've got to turn around the birth rate. Yeah, we got to turn
around the birth rate. Preferably in wedlock. Yeah. And just help your single friends out. Yes. Yes.
You know? And like I said, it might not work out. But then at least that all those single people can
just get together and then just all date each other, you know? Totally. So anyway, that's my
my little rant for the day.
You know, I'm a sleepy girl today.
I'm very sleepy.
Same.
Same.
Why are we sleepy?
Not because of that reason.
Because,
um,
oh, we stayed up late playing Catan?
No.
Oh.
Are you kidding me?
You just got a huge gift this morning.
Oh, I know, but I slept in.
No, but tell them about the gift I got you.
Oh, oh, so Danny, uh, little logistics extraordinaire over here.
Wasn't that easy.
Got a surprise golf cart delivery for me for Father's Day.
Yeah.
With the baby blue seats I've been asking for.
You were asking for baby blue?
No, I'm just kidding.
They're not baby blue.
They're turquoise.
Oh.
Do you don't like them?
No, I love them.
I love them.
No, I love them.
I love them.
I love them so much.
You know what?
What are you going to say?
I was going to say now we have two golf cars.
And so it's like the black.
and beige one, I can drive.
And then it's like the white and baby blue one, you can drive.
No, the blue is cool.
Oh, I know.
I'm saying, that's what I'm trying to tell you is that the blue is so cool.
I agree.
You think it's girly?
No, I agree.
Stratton tried to tell me it was girly and I said, no, Stratton.
Wait, Stratton said it was girly?
Yeah.
And I had to say, Shradden, I love this golf cart.
No, I'm, yes, I'm dead serious.
I love this golf cart.
It's not girly.
It's blue.
I know.
Blue's my favorite color.
It's a cool golf cart.
Danny, I so agree with you.
They have brown and black available, but we already have a brown and black.
I totally agree.
I'm so glad you didn't get brown and black.
I love it.
I love it so much.
I don't like you right now.
I know it you're lying.
I'm not lying.
I love it.
You think it's girly.
No, I don't think it's girly at all.
I do think that you think that it's really.
Danny, that is the most masculine golf cart,
masculine baby blue golf cart I've ever seen in my life.
Anyway, it is a pretty bad A golf cart.
It has a digital screen, a backup camera.
I did a lot of like research on golf carts.
So this one is kind of like the indie brand that is like, it's like you have all like the big like Toyota's and da da.
But this is like the cool and upcoming one that's like up and coming one that it's a smaller business.
But they're extremely luxury.
And some guy drove it Yuri.
Was his name?
Yes, Uri.
How do you know?
Well, you told me, you said you were trying to get him in the gate.
And you were like some Uri, like Russian guy was trying to come into our neighbor.
Yeah, he's named after like some like Russian oligarch.
Like it's.
He told you that?
No, I googled his name because I was a little sketched out.
I was like, I just want to make sure this guy is in the clear.
But no, so it, so we got to deliver like from California.
We use Sky Performance Golf Carts.
If y'all are in the market for a golf cart right now,
they're having an anniversary sale number one, and they're like $5,000 off.
But they had the most amazing customer support ever.
Like these people, you would have thought that they were like, it was like they were delivering a golf cart to their own father.
Like, it was amazing.
And so, um, so I was.
Is this a dealership?
Yeah, kind of.
Or is it the brand?
Oh, that's a brand.
I'm sorry.
Oh, the brand.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a brand.
And, um, and so I was communicating with them for the past, honestly, like 36, 24, or
48 hours.
Trying to get this golf cart delivered, but since they drove it from California, they,
you know, they used like a third party or whatever to get it delivered.
And it was just like so crazy because we were supposed to go home to be home for work
on Monday.
But it was like going to be delivered at like 6 p.m. on Monday.
So like I had to convince Jordan to stay another day even though we had work.
Yeah.
But like that wasn't really that hard.
I was like, you know, stay another day.
He's like, yeah.
Okay.
But typically I like to get back to and get settled.
And so then they were so sweet.
Whenever we were considering that, I didn't even say this, Sky Performance was like,
oh, well, if it's going to be too hard, we can reroute the driver and just have them drop it off in Dallas.
And then we'll have somebody the next time they go out there ship it back to Long, or like to the lake.
And I was like, that is so sweet.
Like, no, it's okay.
Like we'll just, because then we would have to bring it here and park it here and then get another.
person, like a truck to come. I was like, thanks for the offer, but no, we're good. I was like,
we'll just make sure that we can stay. And then I had like your parents, like your parents, I wanted
your parents to stay just in case that you wanted to leave. You could drive back with them and
I could stay till it was delivered. Yeah. And like that would have been a harder cell. I know, I know.
Yeah. Well, I was going to be like, no, I really want like, I didn't get any rest. I want to sleep well.
You go back with your parents and like all stay with the kids out here or something. But anyway,
So, yeah, so then we found out it was going to be delivered at 4 a.m.
And then I was like, Jenny, I was like, I'm here at your service.
I will put my phone on loud and I will be up at 4 a.m. to receive the golf cart because you have to sign for it, obviously.
And then, so he got here at 4 a.m. and he was really sweet and he waited until 7.
That's so sweet.
Yeah.
So.
I do want to say, I am, my favorite Christmas ever was the Christmas that I woke up and there was a golf cart in my backyard.
And you recreated that moment for me today.
And it was the sweetest Father's Day gift ever.
And I am so impressed that you pull it at all.
I know.
I'm like impressed.
I know.
I know all the people that work at Long Cove now for sure.
Oh my gosh.
I'm so impressed.
Well,
Mama did good.
And then not only that,
but I got you a new pair of cowboy boots from Tukovus.
My first pair of cowboy boots.
First pair of cowboy boots.
He tried him on this morning.
He was like,
I really want a pointy toe.
And I was like, no, you don't.
Trust me.
Like, these have like a little point, but he wanted like a, like a sharp point.
Yeah, like a sharp point.
And I was like, no, you don't.
Yeah, there's a whole, there's a whole culture around cowboy boots that I'm learning.
So the square toe is like, you actually are like country.
Like you live in the country.
Like you are like a farmer.
Like you were raised in the country.
No, babe.
You're wearing like Abercrombie.
Well, but you got me a square toe.
You lived in a skyrise when I met you.
You caught me a square toe.
No, babe.
yours is like there's like a square toe a round and then a point oh okay i got the round yes yes they're
more like an oval round like um kind of like a roper style and so um so those are like yeah like
you know i'm from texas but like i live in a skyrise tepahub right okay okay yeah i'm really
excited i um i can i can feel myself feeling quite odd the first time i wear them out
if everybody all guys were called my boots is no no no i know i know i know i
You just kind of mentally own it, I think.
Yeah.
And for me, I'm just going to have to work on mentally owning it.
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Justin is also off his rocker.
He's not well.
And he just posted like these video or these like screenshots
last night of like a fight that he got in with his friend.
and it was like, he was so mean to his friend.
Oh, it was like video?
No, like screenshots.
I'll redo the text.
Okay, this is a text conversation between Justin and a friend.
And he, like, Justin feels like it's necessary to post these.
Okay.
And like, I don't know.
Like, I'm sorry.
He just does not look well.
He posts like six or seven times a day.
He said, I will never suppress my emotions for someone.
Conflict is a part of relationship.
If you don't like my anger, you don't like me.
is a response to the pain I've been through.
Asking a traumatized person not to be traumatized is simply mean.
Okay.
So that I was like, oh, fair.
I was like, I see you.
Yeah.
Kind of we're going.
And then the person replied, his friend replied, says, I'm not used to someone lashing
out at me.
It's not that I don't see and feel your anger.
And then Justin goes, out.
This friendship is officially over.
I will never accept a man calling my anger lashing out.
I enjoyed our short-lived relationship.
I wasn't kidding when I told you, I didn't need you as a friend.
I have good friends who will respect.
respect these boundaries. I thought you were a pussy, which is why I always kept my distance,
but I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. This confirms you were the pussy.
I always thought you were middle finger. Please leave me alone now. And then the friend goes,
I'm a pussy. Sorry, I hate saying that word. It's disgusting. I've never heard you say that.
I know. I've never said it. And then he goes blocking you now.
So he posted that on his feed. Yeah. And then I will say who is the friend?
Nobody knows.
But it's just like so weird.
It's like, why?
I mean, he's, is there at least one theory out there that he's on, he's struggling with drugs?
I mean.
I mean, he's, it's not given sober-minded decision.
I'll tell you the video that I hated that like kind of, trust me, like all of this.
I'm like, ugh, I get it.
People lose it.
And it's like, like, I've been there, you know?
But the one that.
I got me was when he was like smoking a joint like while he's like holding his kid and like
his kid's like laying on the sofa next to him and his baby's like probably a year or too old.
And like I was like that's not cool.
Yeah.
That's like like the smoke is like an I don't know.
Is he trying to rage bait though?
Like maybe this is all.
No, I think he just literally doesn't care.
Like does not give enough.
Man, it's so hard because Haley seems so classy.
I know.
It's really confusing.
And I'm going to be honest.
they seem like they're doing great.
But I feel like if he continues to go down this path when he's only like 31, 30 years old,
no, he's probably not even 30.
How could they be doing great if he's so unwell?
Well, he keeps posting like, like he posted a picture of like a dolphin jumping out of the water yesterday.
And he said like me when Haley Beaver gets home.
So like, I don't know.
He just says like they're still being flirty.
They post like flirty things together still.
But I just feel like at such a young age of this is the direction you're heading.
like typically it just gets worse and worse and worse until you crash and burn.
And like I feel like Haley's on the up and up.
And I think that she will get to a breaking point with him and be like,
I'm over here working so hard and like doing all this, these amazing things.
And like you're not keeping up.
Yeah.
But you know, who knows?
Nobody really knows like we're not.
But I will say it's like.
Well, we're rooting for him.
Yeah, we always love us and beeps.
I went and saw both of his movies.
theaters.
They were good.
He was the best.
But maybe that's what he's chasing is the old him.
No, I think that what Justin Bieber needs to do is he just needs to get out of Hollywood.
Yeah, why is he still there?
Yeah, just leave.
Probably because of Haley.
She's doing her thing out in Hollywood.
But like they're in L.A. in the heart of it.
And like, I just can see them.
Honestly, you know it would be so sick as if they moved to Nashville.
Yeah.
Like out in the country.
and like did this just did their thing um yeah so that's kind of it's kind of a bummer but um
well something else happened yeah on a not bummer yeah fourth time running Forbes top
creator Danny Austin thank you thank you number 13 14 14 14 oh 13 looking number 13 baby I think
I don't know actually let me see I think you you were in the oh number 14
You were in the 20s last year.
So I think you're moving on up.
Oh my God.
See, this is like, I got to just keep up in myself.
What am I going to do next year?
She's higher than Logan Paul.
Yeah.
That's a big deal.
And Alex Earle.
Oh, well, Alex Earl's too busy party.
No, but she's going to, Alex Earl is going to come up with something.
That means in the past three weeks, you've made the EY Entrepreneur of the Year.
you were nominated as Beauty Matters entrepreneur of the year.
Yep.
And then you made the Forbes Top Creator list.
And what's crazy?
Because I've napped every day.
As you've napped every day.
I mean, one can make an argument.
Danny, what's your secret to success?
I'm like, naps.
I mean, you kind of did it straight from your bedside.
It's crazy.
Yeah, I feel like, I'm like, this is, I always had this mentality.
when I was like in high school.
I was like,
I'm going to hustle so hard in my 20s.
That like in my 30s,
I in 40s I can chill a little bit.
And so I'm just so thankful that I did that.
I don't want to be doing that pace.
And I feel like because I went that pace first like so early,
like I really started hustling when I was like 19.
I'm so happy that I did that so that it set me up to be here now where I can nap.
Totally.
You know what I mean?
Like like thank you.
Thank you.
my college roommate for introducing me to Adderall at such a young age.
Yeah.
Which it also contributed to the like horrible, horrible depression in college.
So I don't advise people take it.
But yeah, don't do drugs.
Actually, a doctor did prescribe it to me.
But like, definitely should not have been on that.
Doctors be popping.
Yeah.
Giving that out.
Yeah.
No, no.
That was just, those were my college years, horrible time.
But yeah, like I'm.
Like, I'm so happy that we are not in that phase anymore.
Yeah.
But everybody sometimes has to go through it.
And so when I see people like hustling so hard and just like, you know, on the hamster wheel that we were on or I was on, I feel for them.
And I'm just like, God, it's okay that you're on there, but I pray one day you can get off.
Yeah.
So do you ever miss the old pace?
Never.
Never.
Never.
Never.
Yeah, because we've had a couple of busy days.
And sometimes I wonder, I'm like, do you?
You're like, what is she doing now?
No, no, no, no, no.
That's not what I'm wondering.
I'm wondering.
I'll tell you what I did today.
I cleaned up my closet again.
And I sell all my clothes to this consignment store down the road and they give me cash.
And so I just always, I'm like loaded with cash.
Like I'll be walking around.
I have $1,000 in my pocket, guys.
I'm just telling you it's like the best feeling ever.
Your audience is like Rob, Danny, Austin at North Park.
I'm like, honestly, I don't even care.
I don't even like want the cash.
Like a lot of places don't even take cash.
I just love it.
It's like so fun.
So I just get rid of stuff in my closet.
Yeah.
Well, I was asking you like, do you ever, do you ever feel a siren call back to that pace ever?
No, I would say the one siren call I feel that I want to like do again is I really sometimes miss like my community events.
Like my community things I used to put to your.
to meet people. I would say that's one thing that I like the other day I was like I woke up
I was like I texted out Jenny goes Jenny we need to do a community event we need to love on people
we need to get people together and I deleted it before I sent it because I was like you're on a high
right now. I was like so then I deleted it I was like do you really is this really healthy right now
and then what I'm going to do is I'm going to sit on it and just come. I'm so proud of you
yeah you're pausing
Yeah, I mean, sometimes like I, I feel the drag back into that siren call too.
You know, like I...
For me?
No, no, no, no, not from you.
Like, sometimes I'm like, oh, like, should we turn, turn the dial again?
And then I do the same thing.
I pause.
You know what I've been loving doing?
What?
You're going to just laugh.
I love doing trades right now.
Like brand deal trades, like where I don't get paid and I just get like a free thing.
Like I'm like, Jenny, I really want this lip glass. Can we do a trade? It's like so fun. And like, because I never used to do trades. Like I was like anti trade. But now I'm like, wait, Jenny, like I really want like a new chair. Like can you reach out to this brand? Can we get this new chair? And the chair will be like $300. But I'm like, can we trade? Like I'll do a story set and like a reel and like all this stuff. They're like, is this girl serious. They're like, this is very unequitable. But like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll do the trade, Danny.
Because I just like, I like doing, that's just, they're fun for me right now.
You know, you just go through phases.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm a trading girl.
If anybody wants to want to trade with me, let me know.
ReShall.
It's like, your inbox is like, no, no, no.
No, actually.
I just, I have to be careful with sometimes, like, small businesses because not, like, I would say, like, 95% are, like, great.
But, like, sometimes if it's a trade, then, like, I, like, maybe I'm like, oh, my gosh, I got bogged down with, like, life and, blah, blah, blah.
And, like, small businesses whenever they come after you are.
vicious. So typically when it comes to like a small business, like I just like to pay for it.
So, sorry.
Uh, question. What, what do you make of you being so healthy now off the hamster wheel and still making the Forbes top creator list?
Like, what does it all mean? You know? Like, well, I mean. It's like, ooh, what does it mean?
No, that's, I get what you're getting at. But like, let's not forget, like, we hustled a long. We wouldn't be on the,
No. Like we wouldn't be in the running or be considered if it weren't for that.
Hustle fate, decade. Yeah. I know for sure. I agree with that. Yeah. So it's almost like,
I just feel like it's like a tenured professor. It's like they worked really hard to get there.
They're tenured. So they're automatically like. That's a good answer. Yeah. That's a great answer.
Yeah. That's a really cool way of looking at it. Well, and I think Forbes is so great because they're like respectful to
their creators and they want to see us grow within our lanes. And so they've continued. And so they've
continued to support me. And I've continued to, there are some people that made the list like one
year and then you don't ever hear from them again. But I think Forbes sees my effort and they see
that I'm trying to evolve and I'm trying to be smart with my content and to, you know,
whatever it is. And so they've, they continue to believe in me and I appreciate that.
No, I love it. I love you, Forbes. I love you Steve Bertoni.
Bertoni.
That you say his name? I think so.
Yeah. Nice guy.
Nice guy.
Thank you, Memo.
Mimmo.
I love him too.
He's nice.
And thank you, influential.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, do you want to talk about some of the other people that made the Forbes list?
Yeah.
Let's do like the top five.
I'll bring it up.
I thought they typically released in the fall.
Oh my gosh.
That's another thing.
It's like, okay, first of all.
First of all I keep getting all these people are like, wow, shows you what you can do and you pay for your slot or whatever.
I was like, dude, people can't.
They're saying that again?
People cannot pay for their slot, number one.
And people are like, yeah, sure, you didn't know that you were being.
I was like, yes, we always know that we're considered because they reach out for our financials and our credentials.
You have to like confirm that you like, you feel like send them a lot of paperwork.
And so I knew we were being considered, but that doesn't mean that you make it.
You find out that you make it, made it the day that it comes out.
And no one pays for their, their slot, just so you know.
Yeah.
I'm so happy to shut on those rumors.
Is that, are those rumors happening again?
They happened last year.
No, I mean, it's just in my DMs.
I don't know.
I don't really care.
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Number one, we have Mr. Beasts, earnings 85 million.
Total followers, 634 million.
That's crazy.
That's literally insane.
That is crazy.
So I was listening to an interview with Mr. Beast and Theo Vaughn, you know.
And he was talking about how he, every time he goes to a fast food restaurant, he begs the person like at the window to not tell anybody that he's in the drive-thru.
and typically they will deny his request and take pictures of him and his car.
And every time he has to sell his car and get a new one.
Because people start chasing him, following him.
What?
Yeah.
He, like, he said it's, like, gotten to the point where it is, like, hard for him.
He, like, can't go anywhere.
And I believe that because he's, like, a different, he's a different level of fame than, like, a traditional celebrity.
No, he's, like, more famous than, like, Brad Pitt in his peak.
For sure. Because it's a different relationship.
Yeah, it's like we know him and like we love him and we followed him for years.
And then, you know, this other, this interview was so interesting because he, the thing with Mr.
Beast is he gives away all this money. And he's so, he's like extremely charitable.
But he is so real in his interviews. People are like, you know, Erthio's like, you know,
what drives you? Like, why do you do? And he's like, well, I just like out doing my last video.
and I like creating like successful things.
And he's like, yeah, but like, why give away all this money?
He's like, well, he's like, I'm not going to like sugarcoat it.
He's like, I just notice when I give away money, the videos do better.
And he's like, and Theo's like, okay.
Well, I mean, Theo's like trying to pull some heart out.
And he's like, yeah, the videos just do better whenever I help people.
So I just kept doing those videos.
And then he talks about how he's like, I guess he's coming out with or his show,
has aired, I don't know.
Yeah.
But they set the record with like the most cameras on one set ever.
I think they had like 2,000 videos rolling because every contestant had their own video.
And I think they were giving away.
How much was he giving away on this show?
I mean, millions of dollars.
And Mr. B talks about it.
He's like, all these reality shows make so much money.
And they like the guests only went like $250,000.
With taxes, that's like nothing.
He's like, I don't know why reality shows.
aren't like upping the Annie for, you know, their prizes because they can afford to give away,
like, a lot more.
Yeah.
Let's see what else did he talk about.
I think he's just like a really smart guy.
Yeah.
He's just smart.
And smart with not a lot of heart.
So, like, he's like known for that, like, not a lot of heart?
It's just like, I think Theo was like really trying to get it.
Like, because it's like,
It's hard to say he doesn't have a lot of heart when he's given away millions of dollars.
Yeah.
But it just seemed like the response that he gave was like, dude, it just does better.
And I just know what is going to perform online and what's not.
Well, he also did that interview, a diary of the CEO or whatever.
Yeah, that guy's on here too.
And he might be in his zombie states where he's like so on the hamster wheel and has no idea how to get off.
And so he's just kind of like numb to like everything he's doing.
Yeah.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Like that kind of state where it's like, I'm running.
running through the motions. I know it's killing it. I know I'm the best. But like,
why am I doing what I do? He's probably like lost connection with like,
he's probably lost himself in this Mr. Beast character too. Yeah, for sure. So maybe like
started where he like genuinely wanted to like help people. But it's now so formulaic to him that he's
lost. What I also thought was funny was he was like, what, how'd you come up with the name Mr. Beast?
And, you know, Mr. Bees was making videos for like, I think, like, seven, eight, nine years before anyone watched them.
Right.
And he said that he was, like, playing like a video game or something and he couldn't think of a name.
So he used, like, you know, you can like click to just do like a random generator name.
Yeah.
And he came up with a name Mr. Bees.
Like that was how it came out.
I did that too.
What was your name?
Noobber.
Cool.
The next number two on the list
My friends was plant shark
That's disgusting, dude
Plant shark
Oh, I thought you said shark
No, plant shark
I thought you said plant shark
No, no, no no plant shark
Which is so funny
Plant shark, that's funny
Okay, number two is Dar Mon
He earned 56 million
He has 137 million videos
So he's the producer
of these YouTube shows
where they basically go
like all Hollywood style
on these videos
and they have like billions of views
though and he does like scripted
video creator content
but he earns annually 10
wait the top scripted video creators
in digital annually earns 10 figures
from YouTube AdSense
and then he has his studio
wait, his studio has extensive brand partnerships, including meta and Google.
Let me see a picture on.
You'd recognize this guy.
Yeah, yeah, I've seen him.
Yeah.
Darmine.
Okay.
I like to follow his wife because he spoils the crap out of his wife.
And like, it's like he's always bringing her like a Chanel bag and a new Gucci watch and a new, like she's just like, she's a princess.
Is she an influencer too?
Maybe one day he'll treat me like that.
Is she an influencer too?
And Tuesday, Dave.
Well, now, just like because he always tags her and they're a pretty good team.
So then you have Adam W.
Let me see.
Adam Waheed.
You know, this guy.
He's everywhere.
Oh, he's number three?
Yeah.
We saw him in Tulum, smoking a cigar.
Just walking shirtless down the path.
We did?
Yeah.
No, we didn't.
No, we did.
I swear.
It was him.
What?
I told you.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, no, no, no.
It was a long time ago.
We also saw him at the Celebrity All-Star game.
He was on my team.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Did you talk to him?
Was he good?
Yeah, he was good at baseball.
Yeah.
Yeah, he was a nice guy.
How much does he make?
His quote is, I'd rather get eyeballs and figure out how to make money later,
which definitely makes sense for his brand because his brand.
It's like comedy.
Oh, I'm sorry.
He was not, he's number 24.
Oh, okay.
I was just like a little, number three is crazy.
They put some of the art in between.
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Okay, number three is Jake Paul, who earned 50 million.
He has 79 million followers.
It's so funny that we're on this list.
Like 163 million followers.
You know, 79 million followers.
Anyway, I mean, Jake Paul, what he's done with his brand is probably one of the most genius things I've ever seen in my life.
I think when they do these numbers,
it only accounts for their influencer revenue.
Right?
Yes.
Yeah.
So this is like only the money they're making from influencing.
Wait, I don't.
Do we know that for sure?
For sure.
Because this doesn't include anything on divy.
Okay.
So,
so,
but like let's just say that,
so you think that Jake Paul's making $50 million
of brand deals?
Yeah.
No.
Yep.
No.
For that many followers, yeah.
No.
Babe,
He's like selling out boxing events.
Like he's, yeah, he can pull big celebrity endorsements like that.
But he only, he doesn't do any brand deals.
I think he does some.
Okay, so he does three a year and you think they're all 20 million at pop?
No, dude, this is including like his selling his tickets.
Like there's no way.
No, because Danny, go to Logan Paul's.
It's not including Prime.
Okay, let's see.
Also, you think Logan Paul owns 100% of Prime?
No.
He probably owns like 20%.
Danny, I'm telling you, I can tell you from what they asked of us.
Like, it doesn't include.
I know, I just thought we didn't include Divi.
No.
No, no.
They don't want it.
It's just.
Okay, but what if I, what if Danny Austin as like me, I set up a boxing match and I'm about to box, you know, another influencer and I sell the tickets that would probably go to this.
That has nothing to do with Divi.
Maybe, maybe.
But like Jake Paul owns that.
W brand.
Yeah, but...
That's not included in that.
Okay, but this, there's no way he made 50 million from brand deals.
I'm just telling you.
Okay.
But he also could like own a management company and manage other influencers, and it could
be from that, too.
Well, you just said you can't include that.
I'm just saying they only include like influencer industry revenue.
Okay.
Tell you.
Ret and Link are number four, 36.
million earnings, 33 million followers.
The variety show hosted the internet,
continued to expand their comedy empire.
They have launched streaming channels on Roku,
Amazon Prime, and Samsung launched a live event business
and even published a best-selling cookbook.
Oh, so jealous.
The mythical cookbook.
Behind the scenes, their creator fund invests and supports rising influencers.
Can you invest in me, Raton Link?
I want to do a cookbook.
Wouldn't that be cool?
You've always wanted to do a cookbook.
I've always wanted to.
We'll talk about it later.
Okay.
Number five, Alex Cooper earnings 32 million.
Total fallers, 15 million.
So she obviously has her own podcast,
following a 60 million three-year stand with Spotify.
Technically, that's not that much.
What?
Which part?
Okay, wait, just kidding.
That's a lot.
That's $20 million a year.
Let's catch that.
Okay.
Following a 60 million three-year stint with Spotify,
she moved her sex and relationships turned to interview show,
Call her Daddy,
to Radio Giant Sirius XM earlier this year for a whopping 125 million
multi-year contract.
But that's not all.
Her podcast network has grown even shows in addition to call her daddy.
A documentary in her life dropped in June,
and her 2025 launched Unwell Hydration,
which sells sports and hangover drinks can be found at Target,
Meijer, I don't know, sprouts,
and an official partner of the National Women's Soccer League.
Up next, she's producing a Hulu reality show,
overboard for love.
She on that hamster wheel.
She's on that hamster wheel.
You can see it in the documentary.
Her documentary is so interesting.
I didn't know that, first of all, she was a redhead, so random,
and that she was bullied in school and that people made fun of her,
because she's obviously one of the most gorgeous people I've ever seen.
But it makes a lot of sense why she's so successful because she has a lot to prove.
And typically we don't see like really hot people like successful in business too.
Like typically, do you know what I mean?
Because like really hot people that are just born hot like just kind of receive everything in life.
Like they go marry like a famous athlete or they go marry like a professional or like a country artist or something like hot people just just inherit the wealth.
It's just, you know, but some of us had to actually have a personality, you know.
And so Alex Cooper was one of those people that had to develop a personality.
And then she turned hot.
So now she has both.
And it's like, wow, that's why she's successful.
It's so true.
You know?
God usually doesn't give with both hands.
That's so true.
And so like the best thing.
Like you can either be hot or have something to prove and then become hot later.
Yes.
Kind of like you.
Like you kind of.
But you have to evolve into, man, I hope our kids like are just not popular in school.
just not. I hope they're ugly. It's the best thing. It's if they're, if you're not popular in middle school or high school, it's the best thing for the for your future. I mean, but, you know, the only thing is like I, there were like a lot of hot people at my high school that like married the football players and like the hot football players. And like, you know, sometimes I'm just like, what's you doing in life? You need to just go stocky, stocking and just see what's going on. And they seem like they're fine, but they just like stayed in the same city. Like they're just doing the same thing, which is like honestly probably a great.
life. Like, you know, like, there's nothing like wrong with that. They're just like, I love that.
Um, but I would say like if you are one of those ambitious people, like it's better to be ugly at
first. Yeah. You know, so just. Everyone's like, okay. Danny Austin says be ugly. I wear no more
makeup anymore. I give up everything. No, no. It's just like, you know. I wear Birkenstons.
No, it's just. No, you know what I mean. It's like, you know what I mean whenever you had those friends in
middle school that were just naturally hot and they didn't need braces.
No, for sure.
It's like, it's like, cool.
Like, some of us, yeah, like, we have to have personality and you just got to like get everything
you want.
Yeah, totally.
So I didn't know Alex Cooper was one of those girls, but like I have like a little bit more
empathy and respect for her now.
Yeah, for sure.
Did you watch the Scooter Braun thing?
I keep asking.
I know.
I need to.
You got to watch.
Scooter Braun was on Diary of a CEO and he says the same thing.
He was like, he was.
talking about how he came from a very wealthy family. And like he was like, I just put on a mask on top of a mask on
top of a mask to prove to everyone that like I could do this. And then his off his kind of rock bottom moment
getting off the hamster wheel was like, man, I was at the height of my career and I was like more depressed.
I got divorced. I lost everything. And he was like he basically just went through this journey of
realizing that he can't like his success can't outpace his insecurities. Well, I'm sure like Taylor
Swist's army coming after him didn't home.
True.
That'll send anyone into a depression and divorce.
True. True.
Just saying.
True.
Like my best advice is like, don't mess with Taylor Swift.
So true.
It's like that's really what happened.
It's so funny.
There's like a machine going to Kelly interview where they're like asking him about like, like,
like name one thing about Taylor Swift you don't like or like criticize Taylor Swift or
he has to like eat the hot chicken wing.
Yeah.
And he's like, you'll have to be effing out of your freaking minds.
if you think I'm going to say one negative thing about Taylor, Taylor.
He was like, first of all, she's a nicest person.
Never.
Second of all, I would never, ever mess with that fan base.
That's so crazy.
Yeah, because they will cut you.
That is so crazy.
You're right.
That's true.
Okay, number six, we have Charlie DeMilleo.
Which she's been up to?
Well, she's been up to earning $23 million with 216 million followers.
In October 2024, Charlie DeMilleau accomplished the impossible.
She made her Broadway debut.
That was cool.
I love whenever, like, traditional celebrities go Broadway.
You know, like, I was just listening to another podcast with Shailabuff.
And David, David Manon, David Mano, Mao, I don't know.
He apparently is some, like, famous writer.
And Shailabuff is, like, he's, like, acting in plays.
That's cool.
I love it.
Like, Broadway?
We should go see one.
No, I think it's just a play.
Oh.
You love plays or Broadway?
A play.
When have you, when was the last play?
I don't know, but I just love it.
Oh, you know what?
The last play I saw, technically it wasn't a play.
But, oh, I would love to see the whale.
You know that was a play at first.
Oh, yeah.
Danny loves the whale.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, my God.
If you just want to cry, like crocodile tears.
When he just gets up out of that chair,
Danny just lost it.
I can't.
I mean, I'm talking.
Like, we had to leave the theater.
Because he just got up.
He got up.
Yeah, there's something about, like, didn't you used to watch, like, the, like, people.
Yeah, biggest loser.
Yeah, biggest loser.
People running races and pushing themselves to their physical limit will just break you down.
Oh, my God.
Or, like, whenever you have, like, the dad that has, like, the son that is now in a wheelchair and that he's, like, all I ever wanted to do was, like, run a, being, like, a triathlete.
And the dad's like, I got it.
And then, like, pushes his son in the wheelchair throughout the whole race.
Like, oh, my God.
What movie is.
Literally. No, you never seen those.
You know what I'm talking about?
No.
It'd be, oh my God.
Like, whenever, like,
like, people take their love, disabled ones on, like, races and do the race with them by pushing them.
Yeah, is this on YouTube?
No, it's just, like, like, it comes out.
Oh, my God.
I just saw her show their app.
Like, he did it for a song.
She's like that and then Theo Vaughn.
It's like, Danny's only podcasts are, like, comedians interviews.
I love comedians in cars getting coffee with Jerry Seinfeld.
Yeah, comedians.
I also love Andrew Santino.
Yeah.
And Bobby Lee.
Do you know their podcasts?
I don't know their podcast.
I know who they are.
I don't know.
Called bad friends.
Uh-huh.
Oh, those guys.
Well, Andrew Santino is like, he's like more kind of sarcastic, like, kind of like,
like mean comedy.
Yeah.
You know,
but like,
not mean,
but he's like sarcastic
and just like digs.
And then Bobby Lee
is just like Bobby Lee.
Like it's just so funny.
And then they interview,
yeah,
like they're friends and celebrities.
And I just,
I want more friends that are comedians.
Yeah,
like funny people.
Funny smart people.
We met the whole truth.
I know,
I know,
but they don't have kids.
I know.
It's really hard.
I feel bad.
Like inviting them around.
I'm like,
they need to go get like,
like I said,
they need to all just hang out
and all get married.
and then come hang out with us.
That's so true.
It is hard to get together with them.
Yeah.
I'm like,
what are you going to do?
Like,
just,
it's like,
it's like,
like,
just hang out with my three kids in me.
Like,
it's weird.
Yeah,
they'll,
I just feel bad.
They're not a vibe.
Yeah,
they're not ready for that.
Yeah,
they're not ready for it.
So we need to like,
we need to do it first.
Yeah,
for sure.
So,
yeah,
so that's a really good podcast.
I did listen,
I've been listening to Ian Carroll a little bit.
Yeah,
he's really interesting.
You want to hear something interesting I learned from him?
Yeah.
Okay.
So have you heard of the McDonald's ice cream machine conspiracy?
Well, that it's always broken?
Yes.
But this is actually not really a conspiracy.
I think this is like confirmed.
But so there's like even that all the ice cream machines at McDonald's are always broken.
And they are, hold on.
Let me get my facts straight.
So McDonald's ice cream.
their machines are always broken, which is so annoying.
There's even websites where you can like log on and see like where the McDonald's ice cream
machines are working and not working because there's a network of them.
Yeah.
So they're all made by this company name Taylor.
And so it was so annoying for all these franchise owners, these franchisees, because they're like,
people are coming to my McDonald's and they can't get their freaking ice cream.
And these owners are having to like spend money at their own.
pockets to get their ice cream machines fixed. And it apparently costs a lot of money. And they have to
like go back to Taylor and then Taylor has to like fix some. It's just like this whole thing.
So there was another company like a startup named Kitch that was like we're going to make it
really cost effective and easy for you guys to fix your ice cream machines. So they started doing it.
And there was like basically they had this like software or something and they would come and like fix
your ice cream machines. And everybody was like loving it.
like fixing on the McDonald's ice cream machines.
Well, then McDonald's, Taylor finds out.
And Taylor's like, oh, heck no.
If you guys use Kitch, we're going to mess up your warranty.
You're not going to have your warranty on our ice cream machines anymore.
And honestly, like, they're really, like, apparently Taylor started to, like, try to, like, what's it?
Not, like, tried to destroy, secretly destroy.
Yeah.
Kitch by getting involved in some of their, like, consumer reports, some of their, um,
Testing, like, Taylor was, like, very, like, slimy.
Right.
And so then Taylor, McDonald's and Taylor, come out and they're like, hey, and they're like, you know what, don't use Kitch.
Use this other, like, software, this other third party that's going to really help you guys out.
And it was called, like, powerhouse dynamics or something like that.
And so all the McDonald's owners are like, okay, thanks.
come to find out Taylor owned power house dynamics slash McDonald's.
So they are creating the problem to like make money by creating the solution as well.
Hmm.
Does it make sense?
No, it makes a lot of sense.
So they're like creating a faulty product that is essentially going to need to be fixed.
So they also create the solution.
So they're getting paid.
But couldn't it not be as nefarious as you're making it?
Couldn't it have been like McDonald's is like, hey, y'all's machines suck.
We're going to invest money so you can build a new line of them.
But they have to work.
Okay.
But why wouldn't Taylor just start making better ice cream machines?
I mean, yeah.
I mean, that would be ideal.
Why hide it in a third party?
So they did hide it?
Yeah.
There's a lawsuit right now.
Oh, from the franchisee to McDonald's?
I don't know who's in the lawsuit.
But yeah, it's like an ongoing lawsuit.
I don't know. This one, I feel like there's a logical explanation.
Or maybe not. Or maybe not. Hmm. It makes you go.
Nice you go home. It's just something think about.
Also, you know what's really going to put this Taylor and McDonald's out of business? Ninja Creamy.
Because I'm telling you, I made a McFlurry that is the exact same texture as a McDonald's.
Yeah, but it's like, you have to like work to do it.
Barely.
Like I'd rather get that 99 cent comb.
It's so easy.
I honestly.
And it's so much better for you too.
No, I agree with you.
Like I, especially now that I need to start eating healthier.
Like corporations, if you screw us, we're going to take matters into our own hands.
We're going to.
If you keep breaking the McDonald's ice cream machine and you hide it in shell companies,
we're going to buy ninja creamies and we're not going to buy ice cream for me anymore.
So my only issue with the ninja creamy, which I'm obsessed with, like, we're using it.
I just made a strawberry ice cream the other day is you have to remember that you're going to want ice cream tomorrow.
It's tough.
And like because you have to freeze it overnight.
And there's so many times I'm like, I want ice cream now.
Yeah.
And then I'm like, shoot, I didn't make it yesterday.
That's honestly, that might be the best argument I've ever heard against the ninja creamy is that.
No, but here's the thing.
You're preparing an indulgence impulse item.
Yes.
No one wakes up in the morning and says, you know what?
I'm going to have some ice cream tonight.
Yeah, nobody's like, I'm going to fix myself ice cream so that I can.
indulge and get fat tomorrow.
That is so true, Danny.
It's like you want ice cream when you're not thinking about it.
It's like screw life, screw the rules, screw sugar, screw fat, screw calories.
I'm eating ice cream right now.
Yeah, yeah.
But like, if I was going to logically put, like, my thought and effort, like, as the time,
and here's the other thing that kind of is hard about a ninja creamy, which I, you know,
you see everything that goes into your ice cream.
Totally.
So then you see the cup of sugar, the milk, the cream, the heavy wicking cream.
you're like, maybe this isn't a good idea. Danny, you made it, you made something that was
quite heavy, shall I say. It's true. It's true. There's a, there's a healthier formula.
No, I know. I know. For sure. I mean, when I saw you dump that heavy whipping cream in the
sugar, I was like, okay, she's taking a different direction. Well, it's good for us to know what's in
our ice cream because I just never even thought about it. Yeah, but mine is just like a sugar-free
pack of jello mixed with normal milk. No. No.
That's why the ninja creaming is genius because now we can make an ice cream that's healthy.
But you just have to think about it 24 hours.
They got the lever one now.
No.
Yeah, what you make in the creamy will like literally, you can pull down a lever and it'll
like do a soft serve cone now.
Oh, like a swirl?
A swirl.
Now that is something I could get excited about.
Exactly.
How much are those bad boys costing us?
I don't know.
I'm going to guess 500.
Yeah.
I mean, but the economic.
How many McFlurries do you get on a weekly bit?
It just, it all works out, the math maths.
Can I tell you something else that was like just totally missing from...
What if Taylor owns it?
They're just the ice cream monopoly.
Yeah, they just hit it behind a shell company and called it Ninja.
Creamy.
So the only other thing missing, like, okay, so if there was like an instant ice cream machine,
like that's something that's something you say I'm fan.
I don't know how you do that because it has to be frozen.
But the second thing that is missing is like a good.
good countertop ice cube maker.
Like what we have at the lakehouse?
Yeah, but like, here's my question.
No, they have them.
Why is no one doing pellet ice?
Like, what is so hard about pellet ice?
Yeah.
Like the sonic ice and the chick flay ice.
Like, why can you not get that at home?
Like, I know that there are some, but like everybody's making the cubes and everybody's
making the squares.
And I want the pellets, the circles.
You know what I'll tell you?
Do you know how much you have to pay for those pellets?
It's like, I looked it up.
A dollar pop?
Yeah, because that.
A dollar a pellet.
So very similar to the Taylor ice cream machines, the whole community around these like in counter or in cabinet ice sprinkers is they break all the time.
Like when we got ours at the Lakehouse, it was broken.
I know.
That's why somebody needs to fix that.
Kind of like they need to fix the McDonald's ice cream machines.
Yeah.
No, I get it.
But those, I was going to replace it.
with a pellet ice because you were like, I want the Sonic pellet ice.
Yeah.
I want to say it was like $8,000.
Babe, it would have been worth it.
Danny.
Babe, like, it's like a Chanel bag or a pellet ice.
It's crazy.
That Sonic Ice, they have something.
You're telling me, like.
I think they also sell Sonic Ice.
Like, you can buy bags of Sonic Ice at Sonic.
So maybe we should just go fill up our Ice Maker with.
No, I won't.
It won't work like that because then it'll mix.
But I totally get what you're saying.
And listen, there's a whole Reddit community about like literally.
Well, somebody do it.
Like, what are we waiting for?
What I'm saying is it's all out there.
Like, if you want to be on a Forbes list, somebody go make this ice cream, this ice, no, a countertop ice maker.
And make it like $500.
So it's like affordable, you know, like we can't be paying $8,000.
Here's the problem.
We don't know how to build anything in America anymore.
This is why we have to reindustrialize America.
Oh, so you're pro.
You're pro tariffs.
That's what you're saying.
No.
You don't know what?
You don't understand.
No, I don't understand what you're saying.
Because the tariffs are supposed to bring like building things in America back to America.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
So you're like the tariffs.
I'm pro reindustrializing America.
So you're pro tariff.
If tariff is a way to do that, listen, I'm not an Einstein over here.
Well, it's like we have to go through like the hard part to get.
For sure.
To get the good stuff.
But also tax.
credits. Like you could do tax credits so people buy, build like manufacturing facilities. Does that make
sense? No, you lost me there. Like Divi, if, if there was like a tax credit for us building our own
manufacturers. Correct. Yeah. And so you're telling me that we could build our own manufacturer and then like
give people jobs. Yeah. And bring like work to America. Oh, I would love that. And then we would have like a
booming economy. Yeah. But the problem is that no one's going to give us money to build a manufacturing facility.
Why not?
It's like super high risk.
Oh.
Because then you're going to have to find the talent to run it.
So it's kind of like a chicken or egg problem.
So maybe on top of the pellet ice maker, there needs to be another company that helps companies build their own manufacturing.
Or, or, listen, I'm no president.
What you could do.
What you could do is you do a tax credit so that companies feel like they can invest in their own
manufacturing. And then you offer immigration to America to poach the talent from the other
countries that know how to build things from the warehouse, like the factories of other countries.
And you give them citizenship to come move here and work here and work in our factories.
Did you just solve all the problems?
I did. Trump called me. Give me a call.
The Ninja's World is $350. Oh. I mean, so that's, can you tell me,
that in McFlurries.
Yeah.
Let me one second.
Well, but McFurray's a dollar?
No, McFlurie, pay inflation.
It's gone up.
Oh.
You crazy?
99 cent cone, still a thing?
No.
Oh, so sad.
I know.
That's like you being like,
they still give 50 cent haircuts?
Well, do you want Oreo or do you want Eminem
because there's a dollar difference in price?
Oreo.
We'll say Oreo.
Okay.
Cheaper option.
Good pick.
Who likes Eminem's in their ice cream?
The crunch is terrible.
You're a psychopath.
Oh, no.
That's my favorite.
Oh, it doesn't even.
You can't even feel, you can't even taste.
And they're like kind of frozen and they get stuck in your teeth.
It's just like eating like plastic.
Yeah.
That and gummy bears of my ice cream.
No.
Like that they get hard.
Oh my gosh.
That's bad.
Okay.
So a McFlurry is how much?
289.
So 350 divide by 289.
Quick math.
You got it?
We're like,
what is it?
What is it?
It was 289.
I think it gets my calculator.
And what size are we talking small?
No one gets a small McClary.
Wait, everybody does.
Because it's like, if you're going to indulge, at least get a small one.
You would have to make 121 McFluries in order to make that work.
Okay, so like what?
Six month payoff?
Three month, depending on your appetite.
Yeah.
So, I mean, it's a good investment.
You'd have to eat like more than two McFluries today.
Yeah.
That sounds healthy.
But they are healthier.
Yeah.
Well, this was a great conversation.
Let's get back to Forbes top cradle list because I think we only made it to number four.
Okay.
Oh, no, we made it to Charlie DeMilleau.
She is back on Broadway, which is pretty cool.
Let's see.
Okay, so the next step, we have Matt Rife, comedian, earned 50 million.
That's crazy.
I don't understand that one.
With 42 million followers.
How does he have really?
$42 million.
Is that on TikTok?
Rife spent years grinding on the comedy circuit until he fatefully began sharing his now
famous crowdwork on social media in 2021.
His fan base exploded.
Today, he attracts 40 million fans and makes massive money selling out more than
100,000 seats to live shows.
He starred in two Netflix comedy specials to a slate of comedy films is coming soon.
How did he make $50 million?
I don't understand.
I guess, I guess,
selling out the shows.
Or do you think from Netflix?
I bet Netflix gave him a big deal for sure.
What do you think?
Like 10 mil?
10.
He's 29.
Yeah, 10, 15 maybe.
Babe, I'm just telling you, these people are not making $50 million from
Brand Heels.
I think that they made an exception for him for sure.
Babe.
Because he doesn't do brain for everyone.
Well, then, you know what?
Next year you're going to be number one.
because we're going to include dividend.
That's,
and I'm going to,
I'm going to petition to Steve Bertone.
Okay.
Mark Rober,
he earned 25 mil and he has 80 million followers.
After skyrocketing past 57 million YouTube subscribers in 2024,
former NASA man Mark Rober
now counts nearly 69 million fans for his science content.
His videos include trying to fool a self-driving car
that post got 23 million views,
or comparing the power of a laser versus,
is a lightning strike.
That's cool.
I like this channel.
But he's experimenting beyond social media too.
His company Crunch Labs creates monthly subscription subscription boxes for STEM-themed subscription
boxes.
Whoever wrote these bios is a little bit of putting up.
He might need a little editing.
Okay, sorry.
You know I feel about grammar.
Number nine, Druski, 14-mill, 25 million followers.
the hip-hop satirist has one of the strongest fan engagement rates on social media.
Brands are big fans too.
In 2025, he co-starred in Duncan Donuts Super Bowl ad with Ben and Casey Affleck,
Bill Belichick, and Jeremy Strong.
Other partnerships have included Google, Nike, and Draft Kings.
Cabi lame, 20 million in earnings, 258 million followers.
Also, I heard that he just got detained at...
Yeah.
The mind of memes continues to the most followed,
continues to be the most followed human on TikTok with 162 million fans.
World famous for his spoofs and hot takes on viral trends.
The funny thing about him is he doesn't talk in his videos.
He's also Italian.
Did you know that?
Yeah.
Italian influencer scores millions for deals with brands including Hugo Boss,
crypto exchange,
Binance, and many Hollywood
studios, where he often post
cameos with top stars, including
Tom Cruise and Matt Damon.
You should not be in a rush
to make money, says lame.
Start by making the content you like.
Okay, I'm just, before we end the podcast,
I want to talk about two things
that make you go home.
You know what? I want to just commend you.
This has been your podcast,
and you have entertained me this entire time.
I've been a little sleepy.
You were sleepy, but you have
carried this show. And I'm so proud of you.
Okay, but you had me cracking up. Like, I was over here crying, laughing at you.
Well, what? You're just being so funny. You're just such a silly, funny girl. You're just so funny today.
Oh, funny. Huh. That's what happened to stop talking now altogether. That was so funny.
I'm as a funny gal, you know, what can you say? Um, okay, I want to talk about two things. I didn't even
realize that you weren't talking, but now I realize, and you need to start talking more.
Okay. Let's see. Two things that make you go, hmm, and then I want to give one little other minor update, and then we're going to end this episode.
Okay. So number one, things that make you go home. Walmart C is the future where delivery drivers put your groceries away.
Oh, no.
What? You know, that's what everybody said about Airbnb. That's everybody said about Uber. They get with it. Get with the times. We're innovating.
So they, you want, okay, so they deliver your grocery, someone comes into your house, drops them all, puts them away.
Yes. In a recent interview, Walmart's U.S. e-commerce boss Mark Lohr confirmed that the company is testing delivery drivers placed right in the fridge.
Specifically, Lord told Jim Kramer, whoever that guy is, that the future of grocery delivery includes putting items directly into customers' refrigerators,
enabled by smart home locks and live streaming body cameras for added security.
Oh.
I don't know about this one.
Okay, this is funny, though, because, like, we literally get in stranger's cars.
But listen.
Like, they could, a stranger could just lock us and drive us to an abandoned cabin and murder us.
You're just, how are you going to control the training of these drivers?
Because, like, it's like, it's like Amazon delivery, you know, they'll, or Uber Eats delivery.
It's like, it's just so hard to create consistency across the board.
Like, some drivers I'd want, or some, like, Uber.
eats delivery, I'd be like, yeah, totally, come on in. And then others, like the ones that are
like throw your stuff down. It's like, how are you going to control your labor in all this?
This isn't about Uber like gig drivers who drop groceries at the door. Instead, this is part of
the in-home delivery program. Okay. Staffed by vetted Walmart employees with background checks
insured vehicles and smart lock access, allowing them to enter your home or garage to unpack
groceries into the fridge or pantry. So yes, in that interview, Walmart confirmed they are
testing drivers who will go inside and put your groceries away, not just drop them off.
Love it.
I'm here for it.
Can I ask you this, though?
Is the Walmart customer someone that wants that type of concierge service?
But the Walmart customer, like everyone is a Walmart customer.
I understand that.
Everyone is Walmart.
Everyone is Amazon.
And everyone is Home Depot.
That's so true.
Everyone, no matter who you are.
We've all been to one.
Yeah, that's true.
Okay.
Okay. So I like it. Cool. The second thing that makes you go, hmm, Sabrina Carpenter is getting canceled. We've all been there. It's like, it's like, what is like? We need a new word for like getting canceled. Totally. You know, like we need a new. She's getting shunned because like we're all canceled. Like you're canceled. I'm canceled. She's canceled. You're canceled too. Podcast producer. Sabrina Carpenter getting canceled over album cover. People are not happy with our girl Sabrina Carpenter over her last album.
cover. The cover shows Sabrina on her hands and knees and a black mini dress and heels with an
anonymous man pulling her hair like a leash, mirroring the album title, Man's Best Friend, and a photo of a
dog collar tagged with the same name. Critics argue the art reduces women to pets, props,
and possessions reinforcing sexist power dynamics and objectification. I'm going to pull that.
You know, what did you think about you stopped? What did you think about the picture?
Glasgow's woman, women's aid, like,
labeled it regressive instead it promotes violence and control pandering to the male gaze.
Social media users and columnists slammed it as disgusting, deeply irresponsible and not subversive.
I do feel like Sabrina, Sabrina likes to cross the line. She's not, she looks all sweet and
cutately like a little teddy bear, but she's always just a little over that line. I think she knew
what she was doing, like that time that she had the really sexy performance in that, like,
famous church in that, remember? And she likes to be a little inappropriate. Um, she's not,
she's, you know, this is what ex-Disney stars do. They want us. She's Disney. Yeah, she's Disney. I forgot
what show she's the one who's dating this Outer Banks guy. She was what? She was on the high school
musical store. I thought she was on another show on Disney.
I don't know.
She was a little, I was a little too old for that.
But what did you say?
Is she dating the Outer Banks guy?
No.
Or is that Kelsey Ballerini?
That's Kelsey Bellarini.
I get them mixed up.
I get them mixed up.
Don't talk about my girl Kelsey.
I love her.
She's in Girl Meets World.
Girl Meets World, that's right.
Sabrina and her supporters say it's meant as a critique of how women are treated in society
leaning into satire and irony.
Oh, I could see that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, you know.
It's like, what do you expect from Hollywood?
Yeah, so she's like, here's an intellectual.
We're talking about it.
She's creating a cultural conversation.
She's actually pushing feminism forward, ironically.
By starting the conversation, she's pushing it forward.
In a Rolling Stone interview, she emphasized that female sexuality is held to more scrutiny
and that critics are reacting to the popularity of her explicit content.
Yeah, because, you know, it's, she doesn't want to be kid friendly anymore.
That's not her brand.
She wants to do what she wants to do.
She wants to cross the lines that we all talk about her.
And here's the thing.
It's making her more famous.
I really wish that you could take that heat.
Just a little bit of heat.
I always want to push that line just a little bit.
Yeah, because, but here's a thing.
You always want to push me over the line into something that I'm not.
Like, but you, like, you're like, you want to rage people to get the bait,
rage bait and be like, look, Danny is X, Y, Z.
And it's like, me crossing that line is not me.
Yeah.
That's like, I'm sensitive.
I am.
I'm very, like, hyper aware of everyone's feelings in a room.
Like, I'm like, oh, what is she thinking?
And so if you push me into something that's like, if you want me to be cookie from Empire, like, that's not me.
To be fair, you love cookie because you want to be cooking.
I know, but I love cookie because I'll never be cookie.
I'll never be cookie.
That's why I love her.
Okay.
So, like, then you can't say I'm wrong for trying to give you a little bit of butt top to get to cookie era.
No, but you try to push me to something that I'm not.
Oh, okay.
You're like, Danny, F the haters.
You don't care about them.
And I'm like, no, I deeply care too much.
They're like, we got her.
We got her.
I knew she cared about us.
I knew she loved us.
I knew this is an ecosystem.
It is my ecosystem.
We need each other.
I need my haters.
So, yeah, anyway.
And then the last thing I want to talk about in this episode is I just thought, you know,
I thought we would maybe, you know, we celebrated the Forbes interview.
or a Forbes list, what are we doing this weekend?
We are going to the EY entrepreneur of the year gala.
Gala? Gala.
Gala.
I don't know if we're going to win.
And honestly, I don't expect for us to win.
There's like 50.
How many brands are up at this point?
I mean, and just are, they do it by regions.
And there's like a ton of different regions.
But I think that our region has like 50 brands.
And then you go from the region and the finalist from
the region go to nationals. Okay. So I don't think we're going to win because we heard about
what some of these other brands are doing. It's like they're creating AI data centers.
They're like really smart little people, you know. I told our friends that if you come and we win,
we have a great night. If you come and we lose, we have a great night. I rue for you and you
don't remember the night happens. My only thing is, if we win, do we have to give an acceptance
speech. I've thought about this too. Has it been keeping you up at night?
No, it hasn't been keeping you up at night, but I've never given an accepted speech.
Well, Keith, let's keep it short and sweet. Okay. Our team will be there. If we win.
You say, you say something like, this isn't our award. This goes out to Divi team. And then they
shout in the background. I couldn't do this. My number one man, God.
First of all, I would like to thank Jesus, my Lord and Savior.
And then they like rush you off stage and they're like, Danny, there's no speech.
And you're just like, oh, I'm so sorry.
Well, are you thinking about, how are you thinking like you need to write one?
Because what I was thinking is that this is kind of the first time that we're acting like we won already.
Well, I'm glass half full.
See, no, you're actually usually glass half full.
But on this one, I'm glass half full.
Oh, I'm never that way.
Wait, then comes to things like this.
Yeah, you are.
You're truly not, actually.
So, like, are you thinking about it, like, who's going to give the speech?
Oh, no.
I was just curious if you've ever, like, what would you say?
See, the, like, okay, you, and the winner is Jordan Ramirez.
What would you say right now?
I would say something along the lines of, you know, we're super grateful.
Like, our team is here.
We couldn't have done it without them.
And I would give the credit to the team, the real entrepreneurs.
But you don't want to leave people with like a little tidbit, encouragement, sentiment.
Like that's all you would say.
No, I would then hand the mic to you for that stuff.
So maybe that's how we divide and conquer.
It's like you're like the inspiration and then I'll just make sure that like.
Everybody's thing.
Yes.
You're like the logistical one.
I'm like the heart.
Yes.
Oh, that's like us.
Yes.
Exactly.
Okay.
Well, I'll be thinking of a sentence or two.
But it's weird because usually, although we consider.
everything ours, usually I would be the supportive, like my role would be like I'm the supportive
behind the scenes person. Yeah. But I feel like because both of our faces are on this, I feel like
there's kind of an expectation to hear from both of us. And we're not really trained for that.
It's very outside of our dynamic. It's fine. We'll be fine. Okay. I've thought about it a lot.
You'll do great. Whether we win or lose, we'll do it together. Yeah, for sure.
Okay. Well, next week you'll hear if we won or lost.
Or not because we quote everything.
Okay, love it all. Bye.
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