De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - We Have Trust Issues Now...

Episode Date: July 30, 2026

This week we're catching up on everything that's happened over the last few days... and somehow it includes a trip to urgent care, a fake broken toe, girls' night, minivan debates, and a life update after our move to Nashville. We also answer some of your questions about how we're really doing since the move, what work looks like now, missing family, surviving life with four kids, and why neither of us is getting much sleep these days. As always, it's a little chaotic, a lot of laughing, and feels like you're hanging out in the living room with us. Subscribe to our official YouTube channel, @deinfluencedpodcast, and follow along on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your De-Influenced fix. You can also find us on Instagram and TikTok at @deinfluencedpodcast. Thanks so much for listening and supporting the show! Sponsors Cozy EarthHead to cozyearth.com and use my code DANI for an exclusive 20% off. Cash App If you're ready to start teaching money habits without adding more stress to your plate, download Cash App and set up a managed account for your child today. For a limited time, new Cash App customers who are parents can use our exclusive referral code FAMILY10 to earn $10. Download Cash App, enter the referral code in your profile, send $5 to a friend within 14 days, and you will receive $10. Terms apply. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Cash App Visa® Debit Flex Cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, and The Bancorp Bank, N.A., pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. See terms and conditions for the Sutton prepaid card, Sutton debit flex card, and Bancorp debit flex card. Savings and Offers provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Parents and legal guardians can open a managed account for kids 6–12. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. Ross Find your nearest Ross at RossStores.com. ResortPass Go to resortpass.com/dani and use code DANI for $20 off your first booking of $100 or more. resortpass.com/dani, code DANI. ResortPass—the day is yours. Rythm Right now, Rythm is offering our listeners 15% off your first month and free shipping at rythm.health/dani. Stop guessing, start testing. Our Place Upgrade your kitchen with Our Place today. Visit fromourplace.com/DANI and use code DANI for 10% off sitewide. With a 100-day trial, you can try it completely risk-free. Starbucks Learn more at Starbucks.com/Partners. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The following podcast is a dear media production. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast. De-influenced. Babe, how are you? It's been two days. Two podcasts, two weeks, or two podcasts in one week is the hardest weeks. Well, they're not the hardest weeks, but it is, the reason we have to podcast two times in one week,

usually it's because we're traveling or we have something. So it's actually really exciting because we leave for Costa Rica. That is true, but we leave, we're very bad at pacing ourselves. So if we have things we want to talk about, we're not good at breaking them up into two episodes. True, true. So last episode was fire. It was fire. It was a more serious episode, very educational.

Yeah. I didn't think it was serious. I had a blast. No, me too. But you also said, before it started recording, you said, hey, I don't have much to talk about this. You've got to carry this. No, every time we sit down to podcast, I'm like, hey, just so you know, like, you need to carry this whole podcast. And then she usually talks a little time.

And then I don't shut up. Yeah, tell me about the past couple days. I have a couple of fun things that happened. Tell me, because I actually don't think I have anything that really happened significant in the past two days. Okay. I have a lot of significant things that happened in the past. Okay.

I got bamboozled. Yes, you did. Bambuzzled with a capital B. I can't believe how bamboozled this was. My four-year-old lied to me for like a full 48 hours. I mean, like, this kid. So I found this like cute little play cafe to take my kids. And they were just having a blast.

You know, it's like one of those cafes, you pay. It's basically like a co-working space with like an indoor playground. Like it's amazing. It was over in East Nashville, but so many cute moms. We were there for like an hour and a half. Right when we were about to leave Stratton trips on a truck like a toy. Now, I don't know if you remember this. But before we got married, I broke my big toe.

You remember that? I do. I forgot how you did it. I tripped on a dog toy. And it was so painful. Hazels? Funny enough, it was Bella's my mom about her. My mom like got Bella, her small dog.

Like one of these like massive bones. Anyway, tripped on it so painful. I remember Jordan, I went and told Jordan like, oh my gosh, like that was the most painful thing that ever happened. And I remember you laughed. Like I'll never forget that because he was like, I don't know, you were like in a mood. And it to this day, it has been like nine years. And it still hurts me, my big toe. Like still hurts, because you can't do anything when you break a toe.

So. Are you sure? You can't do anything? You can, like, have surgery and stuff, but, like, no, you don't really, like, do anything when you break a toe. So you're telling me you woke up this morning and your big toe still hurt. No, it still hurts. Like, that's why I get so mad whenever you, it hurts when you, when it goes down, when you, like, push it down. So, like, you know, when you're getting, like, a pedic here, I don't know if you know this,

but, like, they crack your toes sometimes, like, almost like when you crack your knuckles, if they were to push my big toe down like that, oh my gosh, hurt so bad. Still to this day the same amount of pain. Like it doesn't go away. So actually, I went and got an x-ray one time

and they're like literally there's like a chunk of bone missing from your big toe. So when I run a lot and stuff, like the nice thing is I'm not a ballerina. So I don't really like point my toes down that much. But like when I run, it hurts really bad. So anyway,

the way he tripped on that toy was like very like reminiscent of my, breaking of my big toe. And like his reaction and everything. And so and the thing about Stratton is he cries a lot. He has kind of like a hard time like regulating his emotions. He cried longer than normal. So I just knew like something was wrong. And I offered to like take him to like dino land and to take him to the park. And I was like if you walk like I'll give you ice cream. Like I tried all the bribery like nothing works. So I was like, okay, this is serious. But I said, let's go home. I'm going to put a show on for you. And we'll ice it.

And we'll see, after you go to bed, we'll see how you feel in the morning. So went to bed, put my kids early, they got to watch a show, you know. Wizard of Oz terrified him. They, no, they hated it. He was under the bed. I was like, this is a classic, y'all. That's kind of what I knew just, yeah, I want to read the story. Yeah, he was like, my kids did not like that.

He was under the bed. So then we watched Smurfs, which was just like, ugh. So next day we wake up, he is still in pain. Not only that his pinky toe is swollen. and bruised. So I was like, this is serious. I was like, I'm a horrible mother because I made him sleep with a broken toe.

And he will not walk on it. Screaming, crying, whatever, like, you know. So we call, like, one of those, like, urgent clinics, and we go in. And unfortunately, you know, we wait. We'd sign up. They're like, our x-ray tech is not here. And I'm like, I know that's what they're going to need.

They're like, we'll still see you and, like, let you know, like, what's going on. I'm like, dude, we need an x-ray. But we stay, we do the whole appointment. She feels around. and he's still in pain and he's like, and she's like, yeah, like, you need to get x-ray. So he still won't walk on it, so they give him a boot. And I'm, like, I don't know.

I'm getting signs of, like, maybe he's faking it, but like, how horrible would that be if I'm the mom that's like he faked it, but like he actually had like a broken toe? So I get home from this because I'm like, I'm going to just see if like he'll walk by tonight. So I got my stories and like, I'm like, yeah, so he has a boot on. Like, I don't think it's broken. I think it's, you know, and people reply to me. they're like, wow, if I were you, I would have rushed him to the, to the next appointment to get an x-ray.

Like, wow, Danny, you should really take him like, poor thing. Were they really saying that? Yes. So I deleted the story because I was like, I'm not doing this. And I called the next place and I was like, fine, because you know what, you're right. Like, I'm going to feel so guilty if he really does have a broken toe. So I drive out to Bellevue, which I don't know, like Google Maps took me like a crazy, crazy way. but I get out there and like we wait in the waiting room they didn't call ahead so they didn't know

we were coming so it was like this whole thing I'm with Stella and Stratton we wait like about an hour and finally like we're about to be seen because there's and then some lady comes in I did say like bless her heart like she was struggling like she was screaming in pain like it sounded like she was having like birth yeah and so they're like sorry we have to attend to this other girl she's in more pain I'm like okay stratton's like fine but My toe purple. My toe purple. And so Stella and are like making up so many games.

Like we're having so much fun. We're playing catch. We're playing like doctor or whatever. So I'm like I know for a fact that Striden, his toe is broken at this point. Because I'm like he would want like he's just sitting there. Bored as all get out. And so I'm like at this point I'm like convinced like his toe is broken. And it really is like swollen.

Right. So they finally come in and we get to finally have the x-ray. He gets up on the table. they do all the pictures he gets all the attention you know and um you know selen i are hiding in the back from the x-ray machine we get to watch everything and x-rays are done and um i'm about to take him off the table and he goes um what what the doctor say and i said um yeah i said she's going to look at the x-rays and i didn't tell you this he goes can i walk and i go oh my god i go yeah you can you can walk, he gets up off the table and he walks. Walks away. Literally walks away. I have been at this from

10 a.m. to 3 p.m. all day. All day. I paid hundreds of dollars. I am like waiting for. I'm like so, I'm also like so embarrassed that I also have been like asking these people like, when's our appointment? So I leave out of there being like, yeah, calm me with the results. I'm really concerned. You know, I'm really because I'm so embarrassed that like he was actually faking it. So he like is walking. out there and I pick him up because I'm like, I don't want them to see that. He's actually walking now. Oh, yeah, he faked the whole thing. The whole thing. Yeah. He got in the car, was walking around. He's running around when we get home. I could not believe it. So just like in hindsight, was that, was that like an attention thing? Or do you think psychologically he really had

psyched himself out that he couldn't walk on his foot? I think a little bit of both. But I think my biggest issue, my biggest parenting issue I had here was that I allow my kids to watch shows whenever, because we're like, we don't do screens unless we have like a family movie night. And I allow my kids to watch shows when they're sick. Yeah. So like when it's because like when they're screaming, crying or they're in pain, like I feel so bad for them. And I would, I think in my head, like, what would I want to do right now? Like I would want to like chill, relax and like watch a show.

Like when you feel sick, that's all, if you're not going to like be sleeping, that's all I want to do. So it's like kind of like my, you know, I'm trying to like care for them. But now they're so smart and manipulative that I should have known because Stratton does on a daily basis and come up to daily basis come up to me and he says, mama, I hot. I hot. And then I always touch his forehead. I'm like, you're not hot. And then he does that he like knows that doesn't work. So he goes, I cold, mama. I cold. And that doesn't work. So now he knew like with the toe. So I have a theory. And And my theory is that, okay, this is my thing with Stratton. So Stratton has an older sister that is very demanding.

And like, it's like always what she wants to do. Even if, and listen, I say this from experience. I try and play games with Stella and she gets mad at me because I'm not playing the game right. And we're like sword fighting. She's like, daddy, you pretend to be the dragon. I'm the princess. Then I want you to come in here and knock three times. And da-da-da-da, she's bossy.

So she's super bossy. And so like it always has to be her way. And I think that Stratton just really wants like to play his way. So he never gets time to himself. Yeah. So I think what it is is that when he says that he's sick or he's hurt, he's actually trying to say, I'm bored and want to be left alone. And here's why is we were at a tent last night outside tent on a farm for like a high school church service.

And I brought Stratton with me because I was watching who was preaching. And it's like 98 degrees outside. And I'm like having a conversation with this guy. And Stratton tugs on my shirt and I'm like, what's up? Stratton? He's like, I cold. And the guy goes, there's no way he's cold. And I was like, I know. I was like he actually means he's bored.

And so I feel like it's like he's communicating like I want to be left alone or I want to have alone time by saying, oh, I'm sick or my toe hurts or what happens. you like oh see i just think he wants a show and then the reason why they would say ballistic is because like he was sick so usually they get to like pick the show whenever they're sick but like i picked wizard of oz and that's why he went ballistic because he lost control he thought like oh this is the one time i'll get to watch you know some like lego man or whatever but like i chose the show so he i know but i kind of feel for him because like when does he get to watch what he wants no when does he have control because like yeah it's like anytime he's playing by himself like stella's like hey what are you

playing we're going to go play airplane we're going to go play this but he kind of he's like he's like pretty codependent on stella and he's always like okay i want to make stella happy though i know this is the problem that's why i'm still in your son no for sure for sure like i i i we've talked about this like i feel for him i'm like i understand you just want your sister be happy you just want your sister be happy but you also kind of, but you also like kind of just like want to do your own thing and you like kind of want to be left alone. You want to have some alone time. But he never gets it. When I took him to that church service, an angel. Yeah. Like we went, we went and got tacos before. He sat the entire service through. Oh, still like, never. The only time he tugged on my shirt was when he was like, I'm cold. And it was like getting late and he was probably like ready to go. But he was still so sweet about it. And I was like, did you have fun? And he was like, I loved it. But you know what he said at the end? He goes, next time let's have Stella come. And I and I got down on my, I truly got down on one knee and I go,

hey listen, I go, you're with Stella a lot. I was like, you know, sometimes I think you and daddy should just go do things. What do you think? And he was like, okay. Oh, Christ. It was so sweet. So I really feel like it's like,

he's just got like a nervous system that's just totally like twerked up all the time. Oh, it is so twerked. Because, yeah, because of his sister. Yeah. And I get it. Sometimes she walks in the room and I freeze up too.

I know. It does kind of stress me. I always walks in. I'm like, oh. And then this is the funniest story is like we get back home and you're still at like your friend dinner or whatever and we get back home and we were the babysitter's like, hey, Stella's like she said that you absolutely have to go up to her room and say good night. And so I'm like, okay, she's not asleep.

So Stratt and I walk in and we like open the door really quietly. and she's got her face mask on, like her furry princess face mask. And she hears us and she literally rises up, rips off her eye mask. And she's like, where have y'all been? And in that moment, both Stride and I both felt. We were like, I was so sorry.

And then we were like, it's okay, Stella. It wasn't even fun. We didn't get candy. And she's like, did Bubba get candy? Because you gave me a piece of candy. You needed to give Bubba a piece of candy. And she's like, Daddy, listen, I'm going to go to sleep, but you need to tell me everything that happened tomorrow morning.

forget. Funny. She's just like that. Yeah, she's like that. You know, I get it. Like, you know, I'm not like, but she affects Summit in a totally different way. Because Summit's just like whatever. But yeah, because Summit's like, he's like wound up different.

Yeah, no. Someone's like a nine on the Instagram. Like he's like the peacemaker. He's like, just like chill. No, I think Stratton's the peacemaker. No. Because Stratton wants there to be peace. I think some is just like, whatever.

I don't care if you're unhappy. Give me that toy. I'll eat it. Yeah, that's very nine behavior. Just not going to stir. in the pot. What I was going to say is like I do kind of relate to Sela because like I did fake being sick a lot growing up. Did you not? Me too. Yeah like every kid did. Yeah I would go into the school bathroom wet my shirt and then go to the nurse and they'd be like I threw up. Oh. And they bought it

every time. Every time man. They just call my parents. I would just like rub my forehead like so many times to try to make it hot. Oh that was overkill. Oh no. That's true. No all the time. It's a good idea. Yeah. But I do. It's easier to fake the stomach bug than it is a few. That's what I read. I never did the stomach bug. But you know, it's hard. I think I was just like begging for attention to. Yeah.

And I mean, a lot of people in your DMs, I will say, I don't know what they were saying before they were calling you bad mom for not getting x-rayed. But after where they were like, oh my gosh, this has happened to me. It was like a very relatable thing. They were like, our kids always like fake this. But they did clarify that it was usually their like second or third born, like the middle children, who typically are just per capita, they get a little bit of the middle children. they get a little bit less attention

because you typically have like a demanding firstborn. I gotta say though, like this felt like premeditated a little bit. Maybe. Like I feel like he was like planning this for a long time. I really do. No, I do think we sleep on him. No, I know. I think he's like, that's what I've always said.

He's the dark horse. He like kind of pretends like he doesn't know what's going on, but he knows what's going on. He does. He knows what's going on. And the way he played this out, this out was like pretty brilliant pretty brilliant and like what kind of scares me is like I don't know uh what do you call it like the grit he had like no shame because like we were there for a long

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all those like black and white cards. You know how they like it just like really wears a baby out. I think all escape rooms are the same. Like I did like I solved like one clue and I was like I am so tired. Like I the rest of it I was like so checked out. I just like ran around with the girls like and they were finding all the clues and I'd be like, oh yeah, it's that way. It's this way. Like I was totally pretending like I was like after I saw that first one I was like I got nothing left up here but it was like a really good one that I solved yeah like and it was the first so like I was like kind of like the hero right and we had kind of just all met right you know and so it really like set the tone for the night like hmm how long did it take you guys I'm not a big like escape room person

no but I think like I feel like we should do it again what's so funny about this escape room is like we could do it all over again and like I probably would forget the clues yeah you know Do you think you and I would have fun doing it just you and I? It's really hard. Like super challenging. This was only a six, but it felt more like an eight out of ten. So no, I almost feel like you need a big group because it's so much brain power. And it's so much, like, especially when there's some of the clues that are like mathematical

or like math where like or it's like a letter stands for a number type of thing. Like that's just like a lot of brain power. But it was so fun. And they go all out. It's kind of like being at Disney World, these like little escaping. rooms. Yeah, no. I mean, I know Bridget really likes them. Oh, she's like, that was like her second question to me. And she was like, how do you feel about escape rooms? Oh, yeah. Well, and it was great because when I got there, I didn't really know

everyone, but like, they were like, hey, like, your brother's on the wall in this bathroom. And I was like, see, I was like, you don't know what you're hanging out with. I was like, my brother's on the wall. And they're like, wait, what is your brother do? I'm like, he models for the escape room. I was like, what is your brother too? Um, so, no, we had to do. So, no, we had a great time. I met Bridget's friends. We went to sushi son or sushi sands. I don't know how to pronounce it. Did a veggie roll? Yeah, I did. Super cool spot. Like, it's, it's off of 12 South, but it's like in this little pocket area and it was like such a vibe. Like, I definitely did not dress appropriately because I kind of thought when they said we were getting sushi, you know,

like, sushi places. Sometimes they're like more like, I don't know, chill, hold the wall. Like, you never know. Sometimes the best sushi places are like hole in the wall. So I kind of was like, oh, it was not a whole in the wall. Oh, and you were. Like I should have been wearing like definitely a crop top or a halter top or something. Did anyone say anything about your car? Oh my gosh. I am so happy that you brought that up.

I need to tell you something. You don't like it? No, I love that car, but it feels different when you're driving it alone. To a girl's name. Okay. So all the girls there had like a matte black. Tesla, like a raised up, like massive wheels expedition, black, like, black escalade, like, all these, like, fancy cars.

And I come in, I'm like, beep, like in my little, like, green and white minivan. And, like, I was like, this is such a vibe kill. Like, I'm, I have no sex appeal right now. Nothing. It was, um, you could, I mean, people love it. I get questions about it all the time. No, I know. I got a text this morning.

It just, though. Different going to like a swanky restaurant, like pulling up to like a swingy restaurant, like pulling up to like a swanky restaurant like girls night like everybody's like dressed to the nine and I'm like hey you know it could have taken the golf car well no I came straight from the escape room so I was just thinking about it and I was like maybe yeah no I won't say it say it no it's okay I just I want you to read my mind yeah I you want a different car well no I want that car and I just want to drive it when I have my kids no I know you want a different car. Well, I don't know. Just be thinking about it. My birthday is my car. But I kept saying like, hey,

this is like our kid's car. And then Danny would get really mad that I would say it's the kids car. She was like, it's my car. No, I know because it is my car. And I love it. But it's just such a personality. Yeah. It's like only one side of me. Right. It's like what about the side of me that's like, ooh. Yeah. Yeah. The you know, swanky, yeah. This, you know, the swanky cool girl that goes out like one time every month. I get it. You know what I mean. No, I totally get what you mean. Um, yeah, so we can work on that. I know. Well, just, we'll just think about it. Birthday is in October. Also, Christmas is like right after birthday. So it's like, that's good. And then Valentine's Day is right after that. So you just be thinking. So I did ask Bridgett because I'm not really a huge car person. And, um, I asked her what I should get.

And I texted it to you last night. I didn't, I had never even heard of. these cars. I don't think you're texting. No, I did. I sent you a picture. It's a, um, granad deer. You know what those are? Oh, yeah, those are like really, those are pretty, um, rugged for you. You don't think I'm rugged? No. What? I mean, I can see you driving it, but oh, yeah, I mean, it's, it's like a pretty, like, uh, we wear hats now. No, I know. It's a pretty, like, girthy car. Oh. It's like, um. Why are they so expensive? I think it's like, it's like a G-wagon, but like rugged. Like this?

Oh. Yeah. Those. They're cute. They're becoming very popular. It reminds you like my Barbie Jeep that I used to have. You know? Yeah.

Okay. Well. We can talk about it. We can talk about it. I have no idea. But I understand. And I do think that I saw this coming. And I, it's okay.

It's okay. I will say I also get, this is, it's just weird. But like when I pull up at night and I get on my car, Like there's something like when I get on my car at night like I like to just go like straight to where I'm going But the fact that I have to like go around and like plug it in Yeah kind of scares me no I get it I'm like I just feel like I'm just bait The other thing I would tell people if they are going to get an electric car is because this happens with the test list too Is we right now like have we plug it into a standard garage outlet and then we have an extension cord and then it plugs into like the

adapter and then we charge the car it charges two miles every hour that's insane it's insane it takes over 50 hours to get a full charge and so if you don't plug it in like each time that you're leaving it under that power source it ain't going to work you can get these like wall adapters like the superchargers we need to get that put in our house i know but i don't want to get it put in this house because we're going to leave no i know our next house oh no that's what i'm saying so did you tell them the builder uh Nope, but I'll text them right now. Yeah, you better. You better.

But you have to get the supercharger because it's, it makes it almost like unfunctional as a car if you don't get that. Yeah, I've been on like low battery since I got it. No, for sure. Yeah. My mom ran out of battery and her car on the highway and like I kind of get it now. Yeah. I was like, how could she do that?

And now I'm like, oh, I understand. No, it makes total sense. And the other thing that's a downside if you get this van is you have to buy the adapter for the superchargers. I think I should just like come out with like a new car brand. Like how hard is this really? I mean it almost bankrupted a billionaire. Tesla?

Yeah. Well, he was just like going like a little too crazy. He had a little too much pride. You know? To be honest though, you probably do have a strong point because in the same way that you say there are not a lot of female home builders. There's not a lot of female car designer. most likely.

I mean, I'm serious. Like, somebody needs to call me. Ford, man. Ford, yeah. Kia. Probably a man. Probably a man. We don't know, really, but.

Toyota, Japanese man. I'm telling you. It's a huge market opportunity. Email me, call me. It's just. DM me, comment down below. Like, I got a lifetime of knowledge. She got a lifetime of knowledge,

but she's in her trad wife era, so she will need a CEO. And also, just to give me like a little credit, like, I've only had, sorry, the sexy doesn't, I'm like, I've only had two cars in my entire life. I drove the Mercedes C240 that I got in high school all the way, like, I think for 12 years. And like up until I got my Porsche Cayenne, which was like my dream car, we leased it. And I loved that car. Like that, I would love to drive that car again.

It just doesn't fit all my children. Yeah. So then I did the minivan. So, but my mom drove an expedition. growing up, explore. Did you ever take your parents' car out like when it was like illegal? Like when you're 14?

No. Oh, he did it all the time. No, never. And that's so horrible. That is so horrible. It's actually not though. Like what happens if you get pulled over in that instance?

I don't know, but I would only stay like in my neighborhood usually. Like I would drive it to my friend Bailey Curtis house when my parents are out of town. That is so crazy. That's a crazy thing you do. I don't know, I'm kind of bad girl sometimes. One thing I've been trying to stay consistent with lately

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And I learned... The whams. Uh-huh. No, wait. Wams. Wams. Yeah. Wives of musicians.

I've been learning about, like, the business behind touring. Oh, interesting. It's like so expensive to tour. To fund it or to... Both. Yeah, for sure. You're renting out stadiums. I know, but, like, you know, I just, just things I never really thought about.

How much does it... So, like, just make up numbers, don't give, like, precise numbers, but, like, how much does it cost to go on a tour? like a stadium tour. Oh gosh, I don't know. Stadium tours are like outrageous. Okay, just like what did you learn maybe? I mean, what I learned is just how much of a percentage like all these people take from you.

Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's a lot. And then like tour buses are like 100K and like a lot of brands or a lot of bands have like multiple tour buses. And so like easily you're just like, and I mean, that's why they literally like drug because I always wonder. I'm like, why are like driving? I like just fly. But now I'm like, oh, it makes sense. And they sleep on those tour buses every single night.

Yeah. It sounds awful. No, it sounds like a horrible life. It sounds like I honestly like don't blame like all these rock and rollers for being drug addicts. Like I would be too. Life on the road. Life on the road. No, I mean, and then you have to go and then you have to like be on.

No, it's so hard. For that many people and like the entire production. And you're away from like your friends and family for the most part. And you're like, And you're with these people that like you're with all the time. Like you must get like really sick of them. I know why one direction now broke up. It makes sense.

Yeah. And didn't Harry Styles like go M.I. for like a couple years? Well, that's what I'm saying is like they were probably were so sick of each other. I'd be sick of them too. Yeah. How did the Jackson 5 do it for so long? Yeah.

And they were real brothers. So, um, I was talking to one of the dude perfect guys about touring. Oh, because they went on tour. Yeah. They go on tour. And, um, you know, he was just talking about how hard it is. He was like, it's, it's one of our most rewarding things because we get to, like, interface with our followers and our fans. And, like, for them, they use, like, as a big ministry opportunity.

But he was like, when we're done. Yeah. He was like, we cannot see each other for a little while. Oh, yeah. Because we're, we're, like, done. We've been together. And I was like, how do y'all not fight? And he said that they play FIFA.

That's what keeps them out of arguments. Funny. We love that. Yeah. Yeah. But it's weird, like, because, you know, the, they're. They're older guys too. You know, I know they appeal to a really young demographic,

but I could not imagine. Like I went on a trip to Florida with unmarried guys when we were married and had like Stellan Stratton. And it was just like, I don't belong here anymore. Like I'm married with kids. And so being married with kids on a tour bus with like other dudes that are married with kids, it's got to feel very. It's weird.

It's got to feel weird. Yeah. It's got to feel like, okay. I noticed my job, but I also like, I also like don't belong here. Like, think about how hard that is. Like, if you were a musician and like you were leaving our kids like for weeks at a time. No.

Like you would be so homesick. Yeah. And then like, what if you were like come out on the road with me? And I'd be like, no. Like, I'm not going to go live in a tour bus with my four children. Right. So hard. But then if I was like doing what they love.

But then if I was like, it's also got to be hard in a relationship because then if I'm like a rock star, hypothetically. and then like, you know, there's all these like groupies around, you know, you've got to be like, yeah, I'm not cool with that. Yeah, I'm at home with the kids and like there's this other life where you're living. It's just, but the reason I think that, because I always wondered why these like, like OG rock groups like Aerosmith or, you know. Go back on tour. Go back on tour.

No, it makes sense to me. Like Back to Boys too. It makes sense because honestly, there's so much money in it. And all of the touring they did prior, there were so many hands in the cookie jar. Yeah. They're probably not walking away as, like, wealthy as you think that they are. When you've just split it, too. Yeah, they go through, I think like entertainers, most of them,

unless you're like a Tom Cruise, Kevin Hart, mogul superstar, they walk away and they have, they go through seasons of being rich, but they never, it's hard to transition that into like wealth that you can live off. Oh, see, I have a different theory. What is it? Of why these bands, like, get back together, like 20 years later and go back on tour. You don't think it's money? No.

I think that they, so they go on tour when they're like up and coming, rising to fame, super famous, and they probably do the whole tour thing, like the Jonas Brothers, like probably super unhealthy because they've never done it before. They don't know how to do it. They don't know how to like, like even split percentages, whatever. So they probably go and they're like so burnt out and so tired. They're probably take a break for like 20 years. They're like, I'm going to go raise kids, have, you know, have a family, get married.

And I think their kids grow up. And they're like, wait, I miss this part of it. And I'm going to go back to it with so much more wisdom and do it like the right healthy way. Like the backseat boys, I feel like their way that, like they have so much like longevity with their career now because I feel like they have like boundaries and they like know exactly how to go on tour and be healthy and do it. You know, it's like and I think they just like love the music side. They love the performing side, but they know what not to do now. Like the Jonas Brothers like they're back together. Like the, oh, I don't know if like the three, but they are like close again whenever they had their moment.

They had to like break apart, go do their own things. And now it's like, okay, we've grown up, we've learned our lessons, like, let's do this the right way. Yeah. Because if you're a performer, like once a performer, always performer. It's like, and I also now empathize with like musicians who cancel shows or like cancel or like cancer towards because it's like, you know, the PTSD it gives me is like when you had like a team of five. Right. And like the entire.

I think seven seven. Yeah, probably seven. The entire business orchestrated around your. output. And so then I just remember like realizing the pressure you felt during those times to be like, hey, if I don't go, this whole thing doesn't go. And like you love the people who are on your team. And you can take what you felt and you witness and maximize that times like 50 for like, like, you got tours, but you got managers now. You've got fans. You've got like selling like millions of tickets. You can't, you can't be off. You can't be off for a second. I'm telling you. It's just,

Taylor Swift, I don't know how she does. Taylor Swift and I would be so curious to like really understand how Forrest Frank is doing. The reason for it is like he's going through the traditional touring system. You know, he's got J.P. Pecluda who's been on this podcast with him. Oh, does he? Yeah. I think he's like going around different cities with him. Oh, why just to like mentor him or like?

I think he's a part of the show. I don't know. I've never been doing it for. Frank concert. But you know what? I think bringing a pastor is a good idea. No, I think it's a if that's why he's doing it, I think it's a genius idea. But it's interesting for him because he's obviously trying to walk very faithfully, you know, in his faith through a really trying like just circumstantial event, which is a tour. Yeah. And it would just be interesting to hear his perspective of like life on the road and touring while also being a father. And like a Christian,

it's just got to be interesting. Does he live? in Nashville? No. I think he lived in Waco. What? Yeah, that's how he knew J.P. Wait, I did not know that. Yeah, I think he was like in Waco and then I think he went to Arizona.

Oh. Maybe California. Yeah, you're right. He's like a skateboarder, so that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. I don't see a lot of skateboarders in Nashville. No. Anyway, okay, so I do want to move on with,

only because we did promise our audience at Q&A, so we had people submit questions. Oh. You didn't know? No, I didn't know. Okay, so we have some questions from the audience, and I kind of want to get to them. Should I pull them up too? So, I'll ask. Oh, okay.

Yeah. So I'm going to ask you, first, they wanted like a life update about our move. How are you really doing being away from both of your families? How has the transition to Nashville been overall? Oh, you want to take that one? No, okay. You want me to? Yeah, you take it.

Okay, so how have we really been doing away from our families and how's the transition been. It almost feels like whenever you go to college and you're like, ooh, I'm away from my parents, you know, I kind of feel that way because we've lived in Dallas near our parents like, I mean, our entire lives, except for college. And I think what's special about moving to a new city where you don't have as much family is you really have to like rely on your community and build community. Like usually whenever we need a babysitter or something like we're sick or whatever, like you could so easily call your family and your parents, which is so great, but it's also really sweet to, like, build that type of, like, trust and

community. We're, like, super reliant on them. And so I feel like being apart from them has, like, really helped us make good friends really fast. Therefore, I feel like the transition has been easier. And I have so many, like, cool people that have, like, really taken care of us. I think you feel the same way with some of the guys. Yeah.

That have made the transition, like, so easy. And, like, I feel so thankful for them. They've invited us to everything, birthday parties, escape rooms. I mean, this girl's wearing, and if you're not watching, her hat literally says Nashville is my happy place. Well, it's funny because, like, everybody's like, you're so touristy with these hats. And I'm like, I know.

I love them. But it's also the truth. But it's also, like, the truth. Like, and yeah. So I don't know, I felt like it's good. Of course, like I'm, it's, I miss parts of Dallas and I miss being so close to our family. But, you know, they're going to be here all the time. It almost will make the time that we have with our family, like, more special because it'll

be like when they come visit we'll like really cram in some fun stuff yeah I agree I mean I think that um I miss the kids being able to see their grandparents as much but I they've been face timing but I think for like our nuclear family like no question this is 100% where we were supposed to be so I have like a good question what's been the worst part of Nashville um the worst part of the move we're like nothing it's amazing nothing I mean it's more humid here than I thought it was going to be. It's a little bit more human. So like there's been a lot of things we've had to like get in order just like naturally with the move, um, like finding babysitters and, you know, like getting all of our furniture here. Oh, I know one. And I would say like there's a little bit of a mental load

that I'm like looking forward to getting a little bit more settled to where I feel like, okay, it's like a little bit more peaceful. I would say also the hardest part for for me and I don't know if you'll feel this too is realizing like what we want to. bring from our old lives into our new life, like working rhythms and like, um, you know, just like daily routines and little habits and commitments and what we say yes to and what we say no to. There's been a lot of things that, um, you know, a lot of habits or work rhythms in particular that were that I would follow in my Dallas life that like I've not really wanted to have here, but like I've had to like take these calls or being on these standing meetings or

whatever and that's been hard to kind of sift through. I know the worst thing about movie to Nashville. Oh. Our sleep. Yeah, I was going to say sleep, but it's so generic, but yeah, I'm exhausted. I think because of the move, like Smith's sleep routine is totally off. Yeah. So like, for example, he was up at 1230 and 4.30. Oh, I do want to talk about this. This is a really great time to talk about this. Oh, gosh. No, it's not bad. Okay. I do want to know. So Smith has not been sleeping through the night. A lot. He's either doing like that, you know, where he's up at 12 and 4 or he's up at 3.30. And Jordan has been the one to get up and feed him every night.

Do you feel resentment over that? No. Do you feel frustration? Towards you? Yeah. No. Do you feel like I should be doing it sometimes? No.

No. Why? Um, I mean, this sounds so basic, but like I feel like you do the 930 feed. And I appreciate that. I'm like, oh, this is just like my job. Oh, really? Yeah. 9.30 at night feed?

9.30 at night, yeah. Hmm. But I am, I will, I don't feel resentment, but I think I'm starting to realize I'm very tired. Like I, I mean, because it's not just he wakes up at five. It's like 4.45. And if he wakes up in the middle of the night, it's like, I'm, yeah, I'm pretty tired. I know. And this is so horrible of me.

And I'm not saying like this is. justifies anything but sometimes I'm like now you know what it felt like to be pregnant for four years no for sure I mean I it's the hardest like that's how you sleep when you're pregnant yeah I don't not at all the only time I would say the only time I feel and I wouldn't even say the word is resentment but frustration and or overwhelm is probably the best word is like if you sleep in on the weekends I feel very overwhelmed because it's like Smith, like I've been up for two and a half hours and then the four kids come down and they're like, I'm starving and I'm just like, okay, but let me just say the morning that you did that, that I did that, you still had more hours

to sleep than me. Yeah. Your sleep score was like a 90 and mine was like a 75. I know, but I didn't feel it. I'm just saying, it's true. The downside of having. It's so funny because like, He's like, I'm so tired. I've been up with him forever. And he still has more sleep than me. Yeah, the downside to having an eight sleep is you can kind of quantify who's right. Who's wrong? Like, I can be like, I'm tired.

Yeah. And I'm like, well, really? You have a 98 sleep score. No, I. It's like eight hours and 30 minutes last night. Yeah. And I feel like you, um, the reason I don't feel resummit is like I also feel like you're a lot more. And you're transitioning into this is like you're really present during the day.

Like if I'm on calls and stuff like I know. And I know that that's a lot too. Okay, let's see. But I'm tired. I know, honey. I'm even tired right now. I know. I know.

I can tell. He woke up at 4.30. I know. And I was like, I'm just going to let him cry it out and go back to sleep. And then he just didn't. And then the funniest thing is like I get up with him and he's not even hungry. He just starts laughing. And I'm like, you're, I'm like, I'm mad at you.

That's how I feel. I'm not mad at you. Danny. I'm mad at him because he doesn't understand. He's so cute though. Okay, moving on to the next question. Did your team move with you slash what does work look like now? Our team did not move with us. We tried. We offered them. We tried to get the stars. One of them is married to a doctor and I was like Verterville's there. I was like, I can call some people. I don't know. No one. But yeah, so we tried, but they probably cannot move. But they're still working for us remote, which has been great. They came up last week for the North Shore anniversary sale to help me with like some content and some meetings

and stuff that we had so they were here for three days so we'll probably just do that like once a month where they fly out for three days and we just kind of cram everything we need to do in there. I have a new girl that's working for me in Nashville not full time but she's been helping me a lot with like filming and some content some brand deals I have and she's been great and so yeah our team is kind of all over. The nice thing is we can work remote, same with Divi. Like whenever we have right now we're doing, we're planning like a big product launch. We're super excited about something's coming. And all of that is over Zoom and it's like so efficient and so great. You know I hate meetings. I'm like, Danny hates me. I hate them. I'm like this like seriously we're going to talk about

this for an hour. Like text me. I'm like word vomit. Like this is like not doing anything. I'm like, okay. Like what are we going to do though? Yeah. You're a workhorse. I'm a workhorse. I'm a work course. Yeah. I don't like talking about work. I just like doing it. In fact, talking about it makes me a little anxious. Oh, I know. And Divi hired a CEO a while ago and so they're fully remote. So no one would have moved here. And the nice thing about Divi is like I am 100% involved in like creating the formulas and like product innovation and stuff, product development. But everything else, like we have people that are way smarter than me doing a lot of Divi. So You know, I get in on like the, like some of the marketing concepts, but like sometimes not even.

So I get to kind of pick and choose like what I'm involved in, which has been really fun. So, so yeah, we're all kind of working remote. We got their remote life going. All right. Oh, the next question was Smith Update. How's You Sleeping? We'll skip that one. How would you describe each of your kids in three words?

Why three words? That's so specific. Oh, three words, like one word each. Yeah, one word each. Oh, okay. Stella? Me. Yeah.

I was going to say intelligence. Ooh, so sweet. Stratton, emotional. Yeah, I was going to say emotionally intelligent. High EQ. That's two words, babe. Yeah. I guess we can hyphenate it, maybe one.

Summit. Bro. Lacrosse. Chill. Smith. rascal. I was going to say like happy. Yeah, he's happy.

He's such a happy movie. It's so hard to know what his personality is right now. No, but like you can tell. You can tell like because Stella didn't smile at all like for her first like three years of life. Yeah. Do you remember how like I was like I used to cry. I'd be like she's like so mean. You remember?

Because like I would be like Stella and she was like so serious. I was like she doesn't like me. Yeah. And she's like so obsessed with me. But she loves you so much. She literally like all day long, he's like, Mommy,

I just love you. I love you so much, Mommy, like I love you so much. And it's just like, I know, I'm so amazing for you. I'm so great.

I love you too. Um, no, but Smith has more of like the summit personality, like as a baby, because Summit was very smiley, giggly like that. I have a great question.

This is not on the script. But because the, the funniest thing about our family is, is there is a through line that goes from tornado to Danny to Stella. Like that is three peas in a pod. We are three tornadoes. They are three tornadoes and it's like if they were together you'd be like, whoa, don't like literally you should just leave the room. Like you should be scared or else you're gonna have to join this.

So I'm curious like what because she's so similar to you. Yeah. What would you want to teach Stella and either like like not pass down to her? Like what would you want her to know about you to be like, hey, you're going to encounter this? I was very insecure as a kid, like very insecure. And I compared myself to like the other little girls all the time. And I want to protect her from that. But I don't know how because I just feel like sometimes these things are like, you're just born with it.

Like some kids are like super confident outgoing bubbly and they are just like are like that. And I feel like I just wasn't. I was very shy, more reserved like, you know. And I just, yeah, like every time I went, I remember, I mean, probably up until I was in like high school, I was so embarrassed of my dark under eyes that like whenever I would go anywhere. And I, because like nobody was like wearing makeup when you're like in fourth grade. But like I would like sneak some of my mom's concealer and like put it on. And I was so sad. I was so embarrassed.

And like anywhere I went, I would and I didn't even want my mom to know I was wearing concealer. And I'd like go put it on the bathroom. because I was so, and I remember one time, this is like so sad. I went to TJ Max with my mom because that's like the only place we ever went. Like we went probably three times a week. I'm not even kidding. And I remember I was probably, I want to say in second grade. And I was trying on clothes because my mom loved to like buy me new clothes.

We love to try on, like we just loved shopping there together. And I remember in second grade, I looked in the mirror and I started crying. And my mom was like, why are you crying? I go, I'm so ugly. like I literally thought I was so ugly when I was in second grade that I was so embarrassed. I was so embarrassed to go anywhere. And I don't want Stella to feel that way, but like, I don't know. So can I ask you something?

That's why I've always like been like overly humble, not to the point where it's like, oh, she's humble. It's like because of like probably like an insecurity that I, that I have that like care. Like it's very hard for me to feel like like good about myself. So that trait you're describing. Is that like all little girl? Or do you feel like you were like uniquely insecure? No, I think it's a lot of little girls.

I think a lot of little, but then there's also some little girls. Like I had a friend who she was a little bit like, you know, on the thicker side, you know. And she wore these crop tops in second grade. And she like, babe, she literally thought she had the best voice ever and she would sing every day at recess. And like she had a horrible voice. And we would just like listen to her. And I'd be like, how does she think that she's good? And like she truly like every single time they ask like, what do you want to be?

when you grew up, she was like, I want to be a singer. And like, we're all like, dude, like, you're not going to be a singer. And I, like, love, I look back at that. And I'm like, that is so sweet. Like, I love it. She had that innocence and that, like, confidence. And I would have never been like that. Yeah.

You know, we'd, like, get in a room and we'd be like, okay, let's all seem like our real voices. Like, did you ever do that? No. It must be like a girl thing. But, like, we'd sit around a circle and be like, all right, I'm going to go first. And, like, we'd all seeing, like, our real voices. It's so funny. Because the reason I ask that is I do feel like,

I do see that in style a little bit. I know, like a little insecure, like, constantly like, embarrassed really easily. Oh, I'm so embarrassed easily. Like, to the point where it's like, you make it more embarrassing because of how you're acting. And I see it took me a long time to gain my confidence. And I think a lot of it, here's the hard thing.

I think a lot of it was like really good for me because I feel like I was never able to like rely on maybe these like external things like I had to like have a decent personality or had to like really challenge myself to talk to people and like I had to like really work you know you have to like work for it whenever it's just not I don't know so here's the question so I think your mom identified that same probably insecurity and timidity and you too and she probably tried from a good place she probably tried to pull that out so that you would be more confidence confident what would you, what worked and what didn't work and how would you teach Stella? I think that the, I think honestly, the best thing or what I've been doing for Stella,

because I always felt like my shot, like being shy was wrong. Yeah. Like I felt like being shy was embarrassing. It was wrong. Like I felt like I was always being compared to other girls that had more outgoing personalities in me. So it made me feel even worse about it. And so I always tell Stella, I'm like, I don't care if you're shy.

Like, you can be shy. You don't have to go talk to that girl. You don't have to play with them. But you have to be kind. and you have to have manners. Right. So I always tell her it's okay to be shy, you know. And besides that, I mean,

a lot of times I feel like it's like protecting them from things that they're like going to compare themselves to, but you also like can't protect them from everything. Yeah, but you can protect like how we communicate comparison to them. Yeah. So I try to never like be like, oh, like you should go like dress like that other little girl. You should be like that other like be outgoing like that other little girl. Because she's been hanging out a lot with Ella Favre who's like obviously the most outgoing

seven-year-old on the planet. Yeah, she's a star. And she's a star. And she's, and Stella's very different than her. Like, you know, once Stella opens up, she's outgoing too, but she's very, she's way more shy and reserved. And I always like, I'm like, I'm like, that's so great about Ella, but it's okay that you're not like that. It's okay that you're- Have you seen that she's adopted some of her mannerisms? No, really? Yeah, for sure. Stella is very impressionable. And I was too. I still am. Like, if I hang out with someone that uses a certain type of word or they move their hands a certain type of way, I will adopt it 100% all the time.

Like my roommate in college always went like this with her hair. So like I started doing that. And then my friend Becca, remember Becca? Yeah. She always, whenever you would talk to her, she would go like this. Like when she was really trying to understand that, I just started doing that. Like I just copy everybody's manualisms. I don't really have anything on my own.

Yeah. I feel all the same ways that you feel about Stella, like you see yourself in her. I feel that was Stratton. Yeah. I feel it. And I told you that. And I was like, I really, um,

I really want to really analyze like what I would have done differently as a kid. I think you're a great dad to Stratton. Yeah, I know. He, he's someone that I even realized this last night. It's so hard with four, but like he needs way more one-on-one time. Yeah.

You do a great job with Stratton doing one-on-one, though. Yeah. I probably should do a little bit better, but it's so hard because still like it's so upset. Like you can't go anywhere without her. She'll like be mad at you for days. But yeah, for sure. Um, okay, I wanted to ask you, do you want to have more babies?

Honestly, it was so funny. I was talking to, so at this church service, it's like on a farm where they also do a homeschool thing. I have no idea what you're going to say. Well, she was saying that she has four and I was talking. I was like, yeah, you know what? We're in Nashville big families. Maybe we just have more.

And then I woke up this morning. You're like, what was like, 4.45? And I was like, no. You're crazy. I was like, you're crazy, Jordan. Do you think it's like a mental illness that I want to have more? Not to be, not because it's like, oh, having big families is bad. Sorry, like, that's not what I'm.

But like, I'm not okay. And I want another one. I think it's, okay, I think this is controversial to say. I think it's borderline irresponsible. Okay, no, I'll take it. I'll receive that. No, no. No, I'm saying I feel the same.

We're in the same, but. I feel like it's borderline irresponsible because I think at what point when you keep pushing for more children are you putting like the bigger picture at risk. Yeah, but you know what? Whether it be like our marriage or our relationship or our sanity or like our time with the other four. They start taking care of each other. They become like a little packed and that's something like, you know, it's actually probably good for them. But we haven't seen that yet.

Yeah, we haven't seen that yet. They're not old enough. That's the thing is like people say that all the time and they're probably right. So someone who is maybe four years ahead of us can coach. us and be like, man, don't slow down, keep having more. But like, we've never, we, we have never experienced relief in any sense. Because the minute that we get relief of our kids, like, being a certain age where they can like get dressed by themselves, we have three others that can't. And then by the time they're all self-sufficient, we have another one. It's psychotic behavior.

And something that we haven't really shared, I don't think I've shared it ever on Instagram or on the podcast, but maybe I have, but Smith was in the one percentile with his weight. So I have been like, that's why he's not also not sleeping through the night is because I am doing zero sleep training. Like when he cries, I just feed him. Cry, feed him. Um, because I just want him to gain weight. And so now he's in the five percentile. And like there is, I've like hired doctors and therapists and OTs and PTs and all the things. And everybody's like, yeah, he's fine. He's just developing in like his own time. And he's on like, he has like a. He has like a. consistent growth curve so there's nothing to be concerned about. But of course, like as a mom,

like my friend Ellie's baby at a month old weighs as much as Smith weighs at four months old. Like that's it, it worries me, you know? And so it's things like that that like are so stressful. And then I'm like, I can't imagine going through all of this and then also being pregnant and feeling sick and feeling guilty about like it would be so, so hard. And so when you say, when you say irresponsible, it's like mentally, too. No, that's what I mean. I would say predominantly, I mean mentally, a little bit physically in the sense that like. My uterus might fall out.

No. Well, sure. It's possible. But like, I meant like, um, okay, so when you're pregnant, you go, you have really hard pregnancies. I think that's just factual at this point. And with the others, it's like I could carry the load of like, like, managing two or three, I, if you're out, yeah, no, it's not good.

I don't think I can do it all. Like I, and I, I would be worried about, um, being stretched so thin mentally myself and then like needing to be the strong person for both of us. Like, I just don't know. I guarantee you everyone's going to be like, God will provide in the comments. Like he's going to be gracious to you. And I'm like, save it. save it you Nashville moms I don't want to hear it

okay are we planning on staying in Nashville long term yeah I'm never going back I was my answer was going to be I think that we will be in Nashville to raise our children I think we will go further out is my guess yeah probably with more lands and then I think that the even if we weren't in Nashville I don't ever

CS being called back to Dallas. I don't know. Probably not. What's something you would de-influence right now? Oh, something I would de-influence right now. I did go off on the hatch sound machine. Sound machine. I can't say sound machine.

I saw that. They're horrible. I hate them. They're the worst. Don't charge NAN it too. Oh, I like NANET. Well, I just don't understand why are you making me pay a subscription for a core product? No, I agree.

It's wrong. like for Hatch to like hide features behind a paywall like what I'm paying I'm paying a monthly subscription for a sound machine no it's it's that's crazy it's nasty that's crazy so did you see I like replace them all with like Amazon ones for $15 and we can travel with them they're so much smaller I know the only problem is the hatch does have it to where like you can schedule it to where it turns green in the morning when they can like get up and come down to do you have to pay for that feature yes yeah that's exactly I'm not paying for that yeah it's so silly Well, if they start coming down...

I'm like, just use the sun. And when you see the sun up, you can come outside. The son, I can tell you from experience this morning, the sun does come up at 5.05. So I don't know if you feel... Well, why don't you just let them get up and play in that little playroom until we come get them? Daddy, Daddy, strident hit me. Daddy, can you come do this? Like, it's like, it's just too much.

I know. You know, something I want to talk to about. is like you've been getting on them for like not sleeping long enough, but like I didn't sleep. I always hook up at 5 a.m. until I was like 13, 14, 15 years old. Like it's just the way that I was wired. Also,

you've been getting onto them for being such picky eaters. And I was too. And you probably were too. Yeah, it's just. Yeah. Okay. This is what I'm saying. I don't,

I think I am a little bit more irritable because I need to sleep. You know, so if anyone's feeling that in the family, it's probably that. Except we both got seven hours last night. Maybe I just want you to listen and understand. Okay, I love you. I'm sorry. What are the best and worst parts of being an influencer? The best parts totally outweigh the bad part.

I love it. She loves it. She'll do it until the day she dies. I literally will be in a wheelchair going to the Northshameter grocery sale sharing my favorite finds. I... What's so funny, too, just about you that I just want to say is like, people crap on influencers all the time because they're like, they're just doing this for the money.

She's just doing this with... Ask Danny how much money she makes. She has zero clue. Like, she has zero clue. Any single number that goes on her business. It's true. Zero clue. I typically, like, will be like, how much money did we make last year?

And then I get like one update and I'm like, okay, like, let's try to beat it. And then I just just like go into my zone and I never ask for another number. Like if she feels like she like bought a designer bag, which she can for sure afford. She has this weird girl math ledger in her brain where she's like, I need to start selling my clothes. Like because I feel guilty for buying this bag. And it's just the funniest thing. The times that I splurge on my clothes is when I've, allowed myself to splurred on my clothes whenever I'm like representing divvy or I'm going to an event.

Because somebody somewhere one time told me that it was important for me to have a nice image when I'm representing divvy. And so I was like I use it as an excuse. Who said that? I don't know. Or did you ever not have a nice image? I guess they just were like yeah, you should if you're going to spend money on like your outfits and like go all out. It's like you should dress well for divvy. you know if you're going to be like the founder of divvy and i'm saying say no more the other thing i would say and i don't know if you agree with this i don't even really feel like if you like i don't think that you or our family thinks about yourself as an influencer like you might say it as like no i look at all the i look at all the influencers that are influencers now and i'm

like y'all don't even know like you're not like you're not ogy like we are but what i'm saying is like I feel like, like, I've been doing this for almost 15 years. It's very rare to find like an influencer that's been doing this for 15 years. But that's what I'm saying is I don't even think because you don't know how much money you make, I don't even think you see it as like a job. I think it's just a part of you. No, exactly. I started when I was 19.

I was a baby. Like I don't know a life without it. But I also don't want to know a life without it. Like I love it so much. I love the freedom to share what I want to share. I love the way that I can pivot. Like I love that I can like, use it to help people. I love that I can do it when I'm bored. Like a lot of times I just start

doing it when I'm born. Truly. You know? Like and like usually when I find like a good book, I just don't work as much. But I have to be careful because like if I find a good book like I'm actually not working for a while. I know you still haven't opened up Theo Gold or whatever. Yeah. Oh, Theo of Golden or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. And um yeah, I just like love. It's also like a really fun challenged because I love to like teach people new things or just love storytelling. What is the worst part about it? I mean, a lot of people don't like me, which is hard sometimes. But that's probably the hardest part.

I would say the hardest part for our family is I call it like proactive PR. So like, you know, so many things on the internet are misconstrued or like it's like especially since TikTok came out, like, it's like you pull it a thread and it's like you build a narrative out of the thread. And for the people on the receiving end of that narrative, it's almost entirely, it's impossible to unwind the ball of yarn because it's like you're operating off of this fact that's not true, but I don't know how to go back and explain that one fact. Okay. So I would say the hardest part is that I often want to defend myself or create content to explain something. But then that like just everybody knows it always makes it worse.

or it's just like giving more attention. You're almost like making the issue bigger. So then I just don't. And that's like frustrating because a lot of times like I want to be like, I just want to like get on and defend myself. So I just has to ignore it. And that's annoying because you have to like swallow your pride when you ignore something like that.

Like and I think as human beings like we just want we want life to be fair. And like sometimes we're just a little bit more prideful. And like my ego sometimes it's like really hurt whenever people are saying all this stuff. It's like not true. And then I had to be like, just live with it and just let people believe a lie. Yeah. Or sometimes I did make a mistake. I'm a little rascal. Yeah, that's good. What's the hardest right for you?

I would say that. Like I would say, I don't mind it being a part of our lives by any means. I think over the past couple years, like I've really like, If I go to an event, like a local event in Nashville or meet new friends, like when I'm meeting you, I am not meeting you as like, oh, my wife or our family has a following on Instagram. I'm like, hey, this is real me. And so it's hard when some of the narratives get so out of control that it affects like a relationship. A relationship or like how I feel walking into like real life rooms because I've just learned you've been doing it way longer. But I think since COVID, there's been such a vast rift between real life and like actual life, like the real world and what's going on in the real world and like how digitally consumed someone is. And you can tell this by like, you know, people's mental health or mental state. There was this article I was reading in my email newsletter and it was talking about how like women in the South that it was like a New York Times article or something. And it was like women in the South are keeping New York fashion and business. because they actually have places to go and dress up.

Oh, funny. And they were like, we're seeing the collapse of like consumer economies and like buying things in urban women because they're like, I don't, they're just, their whole lives are online. Oh, funny. And so their dramas online, their communities are online. Oh, yeah. And that just like does something to people. And so I think it's hard to like exist in that world and this world sometimes. But it's not a big deal.

I'll take it. But we're good. I mean, those are pretty good questions. Do we want to do any more? No, let's go. Irish goodbye. Well, bye.

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