De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - We Took Our Shoes Off… And Lost Control

Episode Date: August 6, 2026

Our Costa Rica trip was honestly one of our favorite family vacations EVER…and then the trip home happened. 😂 This week we're recapping everything—from our flight getting canceled, getting stranded in Charlotte with four kids, and somehow still managing to laugh through all of it. We also ended up having a surprisingly real conversation about control, why Jordan finally took his shoes off (it's deeper than it sounds 😂), and what moving to Nashville has been teaching us about letting go. Plus we're sharing fun facts about Costa Rica, why we'd absolutely go back, and a few unexpected lessons we brought home with us. As always, this episode has a little bit of everything!! Subscribe to our official YouTube channel, @deinfluencedpodcast, and follow along on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your De-Influenced fix. You can also find us on Instagram and TikTok at @deinfluencedpodcast. Thanks so much for listening and supporting the show! A special THANK YOU to our sponsors: Ka’Chava: Go to https://kachava.com and use code DANIAUSTIN for 15% off your first order. Cotton: Cotton is The Fabric of Our Lives. Learn more at TheFabricOfOurLives.com. Visit Myrtle Beach: You belong at The Beach – Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Plan the best trip ever at VisitMyrtleBeach.com. Olive and June: Visit OliveandJune.com/DANI for 20% off your first System! Ogee: Thanks to today’s sponsor, Ogee: A higher standard for beauty. Go to ogee.com/DANI and use code DANI to get 20% off certified organic makeup that performs like luxury. Produced by Dear Media Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The following podcast is a dear media production. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast. Deimplienced. Before, oh. Oh, you go first. We both had something to say. You go first. Well, I was just going to say, before we get started, Jordan told me something that he's never told me before.

I'm actually so curious what you're talking about. He told me that in order to do this podcast and feel mentally well, he would like to take his shoes off. I did say that. And I just want everyone to know that like your biggest criticism and hate that we get from people online is that you always have your shoes on. Like if you don't know this, whenever I had Stella and probably Stratton, I was in the hospital for three days and Jordan did not take his shoes off one time. Like he would sleep with his shoes on, which made me so angry whenever you're like postpartum and hormonal and just like so annoyed because I was like, where are you going? Like take your shoes off and relax. Yeah.

He also wears his shoes all around our house on the. the bed, on the sofa, on the kid's bed. And like, people are always like, oh, Jordan, take your shoes off. And he just came in here and said, babe, can I take my shoes off? Like, I think I would be in a better mental state if I took my shoes off. And so I just want you to know that we are all rooting for you and we would like for you to take your shoes off. Really? Okay. Does the, does the, does the producer care? Approved. Okay. Approved. Yeah. So the good news about Jordan is he also doesn't stink. No, I never stink. No B.O. He like doesn't. You did say I got stinkier in Nashville. I still think about that to stay.

He actually did get a little stinky Nashville. There was like, but you know, it's like more like the outdoor smell that like anybody would get. And it was more because of the humidity. Oh, wait. He went socks too. Babe. We didn't mean socks. No, she approved.

We met just, we met just the shoes. You know, I don't want to make this like a deep thing, but I actually, it might be a deeper thing. So the reason I think I always wear my shoes is there's always a state of like preparedness or like seeing around. the corner. See, you are fear-based. No, I'm very fear-based. And my nervous system is very wired to be like, if I'm not like on guard all of the time, then something's going to go down and then it will be my fault. And so there's probably something subconscious about me always having my shoe on, shoes on that like if someone breaks in, I'm like ready to go. See, I've thought about before, but I'm like, I can run around shoeless. Yeah, I know, but that's just the difference between you and I.

It's like I feel like I always, it's the same reason I like you always want me to get, this is a very big thing. You always want me to get you your coffee before I shower and like put in my contacts and like I'm ready. And I want you to know the mental tax that is on me. That sacrifice you have to make right there is crazy. Especially if it's like I don't, I forget to pre make it. Yeah. Because then it's like, okay, I have to do like a whole task like without your shoes on. Yes.

It is like the mental load of the mornings like really stress me out because I feel like if I'm not prepared for it, then it's going to like come down on me like a title wave. Like baby wakes up at 5.30. Summit, Stratt and Stella will probably be up at like 6.6.30. Danny's coffee needs to be ready by 6.16. It was kind of like our agreement for like me having four children during the pregnancies. It was like, okay, now for the rest of our lives, he will bring me coffee in bed. No, I know. The morning stressed me out more than most things in my life. Can I tell you something? The way that you feel about your shoes is the way I feel about pants, wearing pants in the house. Really?

Because so many times I don't want to wear my pants. Hold on. I'm trying to keep up with the analogy. So that means. Well, no, let me just, I'll explain it to you. So, just like, there's so many times I don't want to wear pants, you know, like, I'm just like really not, I'm not really into like the things touching my stomach and squeezing them, you know, maybe because it's like the one area.

I'm like, you know, I just, I feel like a pant just really highlights that. that that fupa for me. And so I like so many times I'm like I don't really want to be wearing pants but I'm like you know what I need to be prepared. Just the pants on. No shoes. No shoes. No bras.

No plan. Just pants. But I do need to have pants on as much as I don't want to. That's your symbol to yourself that you're ready. If I have pants on like I can conquer the world. Now now the worst is whenever a guy comes over and you don't have a bra on. Oh, the mental load I'm taking on right there. I'm telling you.

Or like I have to walk to the door and there's a man at the door like, you know, somebody dropping off a package or something and I have to like do the little, you know, shrug my shoulders and cover my nipples. Sometimes though I will say towards the end of Dallas, I was just like, I just let it hang. I was like, I'm ever going to see you guys again. We lived in pretty much a glass house and you were just basically walking around naked. Yeah. So how does it feel right now to not have shoes on?

Well, we got some like. He also has very pretty. toes. Thank you. Yeah. I'd show them, but you got to pay for that. That's the Patreon. So it feels great.

We got like the worst thing about recording these podcasts is when something stressful happens right before the podcast. So hard. And I got this like call. It doesn't matter what it was. But it was just like, oh man. And so the reason I wanted to take my shoes off was it's actually a very symbolic sign of surrender.

Yeah. It's like, hey, I can't control this. I'm grounding. I'm grounding. I said to myself, I was like, you know what? The way I can like be optimistic in myself is to surrender and take my shoes off. And is it giving everything you thought it would? Yeah, it's also a really nice rug.

Good. I'm so happy for you. Maybe you should take your shoes off more often. Honestly, that's what I realized when you started talking about this. I was like, that is maybe a form of surrender. Form of surrender. Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, Jordan is kind of that guy.

He will carry the weight of the world and people's feelings. and like I have no idea that someone's upset or overwhelmed. And Jordan will be like, yeah, I think that's a lot for them. I'm like, well, why didn't they just say something? Like, he's always worried about people's feelings and stuff. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah.

But it's because you're such an empath. Yeah, let them. Let them. Oh my gosh. So that's hilarious. I tried to explain the let them theory to Stella, who's five years old yesterday. And she was like, because Stratton is like, like, annoys her so much. And Stratton is constantly just like, like, sing.

songs like you know tapping things just constantly moving very hyperactive and I'm like cell have ever heard the let them theory and she's like huh so I explained it to her so she looks at shot and she goes okay let them and he doesn't stop and she goes mom it's not working he's not stopping and I said no the whole thing is like you just have to let him do his thing and you have to find your own piece and she's like just dying laughing like it's like grabbing her forehead like so confused and so angry because she doesn't understand the let them theory I'm like it is kind of flawed theory for like children. Yeah, no.

In parenting. But, um, so yeah, we had a, what were you going to say before I cut you off? Oh, I was going to say everything I said. Oh, okay. Just the epiphany. Yeah. Um, I mean, we have had kind of like a little, I wouldn't say stressful last couple of days, but just, um.

It feels like, it feels like punishment for the great days we had in Costa Rica. Oh, see, you would see it like that. I view it as like, it's like daylight savings. like, you know what? I just realized I want myself. It's like our flight got canceled and I was kind of like, yay. I saw it in your eyes. I was like, this is when I come alive and I'm like, we get to go find a hotel.

We get a free $15 breakfast voucher. I was like, let's just like take this inconvenience and just grab it by the nuts. I was like so happy about the flight cancellation and like people get so annoyed. by you know what I get annoyed by? Like what actually would have ruined my day was if somebody told me that the flight was canceled and then they were rude to me. But she was so nice about it. I was like, this is a lovely flight cancellation.

I couldn't be happier. I get to spend more time with my family. I get to take a leadership role. You know, I love that sometimes where I just get to like kind of like, you know, Monday morning quarterback a little bit. I'm like, guys, I got this. I'm like, I didn't plan any of the travel and I didn't do anything. I packed the bags.

I was like really. I did do all the packing, but I get to come in and be like, I got this. Yeah. Especially because it was like late at night. It was like 10.30 with all the kids. And I'm like, ooh, we're to stay up all night and sleep in tomorrow. Like, um, so yeah, basically what happened was we went to Costa Rica. We'll recap that trip because it was fabulous.

It was one of the best trips we've ever taken in our lives. Um, but on the way home, it's already kind of like a crazy, um, flight experience getting there. It's three different flights. And we left it two. That was the only like, so we knew we were already going to get home at midnight with four kids. So you have to take like a small plane from where we were. Like we were up in like the tropical forest to just get down to like San Jose, which is like the main, you know, airport. So that was one flight.

And then we had to get on a flight from San Jose to Charlotte. Which is four and a half hours. Which is four and a half hours. So that's kind of already like pretty tough with all like the four children and like five and under. And then we connected in Charlotte to Nashville. We were supposed to. So after we got off the flight in Charlotte. in Charlotte, we were supposed to hop on like a flight, I think it left at like 11 or so to Nashville,

11 p.m. to Nashville. And so we're all kind of already on the verge of like, you know, breakdown. We pulled out the iPads at this point. This is like when you pull up the iPads. And so we're like about to get on this and they're like, yeah, no, your flight's canceled. So then, you know, Danny Austin, the quarterback stepped in. I'm just kidding. Jordan did everything. No, you did great. You did great. Um, no, and so we, um, found a hotel to stay in. We got two different ubers for all of our luggage. I was in, you're skipping so much of this story. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay. First of all, I should have known, I knew landing in Charlotte I was never going to get out of Charlotte. Jordan has a weird thing of Charlotte. Charlotte is now on my no fly list.

Four times I have been stuck at this airport. One time I showed up, they accidentally gave away my rental car to drive like three hours. So I, I, never got out of there. One time, the third time, they opened up my suitcase and only stole my shoes. Well, they were Travis Scott's. They were Travis Scott's, but like in, in Charlotte, like, who steals shoes? And then the fourth time we land with four children, I knew that we weren't going to get out. So there's that part of the story that Charlotte is cursed for me, for whatever reason. The second part of the story is you act like we just got a hotel. No, I had to save Danny from herself. Because she, She was about, okay, so we get up to the counter, the lines out the door because everyone is grounded. It was one of those days where like hundreds of flights got canceled.

Like thousands. So all of the hotel rooms that like American is going to offer are basically like booked up. So and listen, totally fine, totally fine. But like- Your dad works for-sav-U. There's a hotel chain. You might have heard of it called Ramada in. I actually. I've never been there.

I never stayed there. I'm sure it's a nice place. I'm not even commenting that the voucher was for the Ramada in. They wanted to give six of us, seven of us. Seven of us. Seven of us. A hotel room, two hotel rooms. No, babe, one hotel room.

One hotel room. No, they did not give us two hotel rooms. They said at the end they could only give us one hotel room with one $15 voucher for breakfast the next morning. So Danny, I walk up. And I was like, this is going to be so open. No, Danny was like in her like quarterback high where she's like, okay, I'll figure this out.

We're going to get a good deal. I'm like, hey, give me two. You were like, you were like, babe, should we stay at the Lakinta? Or should we stay at the Ramada Inn? The Ramada Inn has a restaurant. I think we should go to the Ramada Inn. I was like, wait, hold up. But I was like, but the Lakinta has a shuttle with no restaurant.

I was like, so what do we want? It's also. It's also 11 o'clock in night. No restaurant's going to be open at any of these hotels. And so, you know, I just feel like you skipped that part of the story where I had to save you. He had to intervene and be like, we're not staying in one room altogether. Yeah, no, that would be crazy.

Yeah, it was because we also had Brenda with us. We almost drove. We almost drove. But then they told us that it was going to be really hard to get a rental car. And they said not to tell the rental car company that we were going to drive it one way because then they wouldn't give it to us. Yeah. So anyway, we found a different hotel. We paid for it on our own dime and then found a different flight.

And you know what? It's all good. I do tend to not be that like, not to be that like optimistic person. No, you are. You are. But I do feel like sometimes. You had a great attitude. You could have totally been sort of an anchor on all of us,

like you being a bad mood, being like, we're all tired. But you were great. Oh, yeah, no, because I love it. You were alive. Yeah, I was alive. And I also had to get to like a CVS before 11 o'clock, like when they closed to get Tylenol for the kids. And I was like, me and this Uber driver, we were like, it was like we were on the amazing race. And that's why I would kill it on the amazing race is because I can buddy up with anyone.

And like basically he felt like he was getting Tylenol for his own children by the end of it. Like him and I were just like, we were like, we're going to figure the city out. Because all the CVS and New Orleans were like closing. So that's. Anyway, I did find last minute, I had to have like an Uber delivery, Uber Eats. And so she delivered like infant and children's Tylenol to me. Like, y'all, I have never smelled so much weed in my life. Like literally, I didn't even give the kids the Tylenol because it's the Tylenol alone

smelled like weed. Like it was so bad. I'm so confused. I was talking with one of the producers before we started this episode. And I'm so confused because Charlotte is the city where they recruit for all of like love is blind. It's recruited from Charlotte. So there's all these like cool. We've only experienced at the airport.

And the airport is so nice. Like it's beautiful and it has a lot of restaurants. I love that. Wait, is the airport nice? Yeah, right? Yeah. Oh, it's a nice airport. Yeah.

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Scott's. No, they still like years do case all the time. No. So we were like, we landed in Charlotte and we were trying to get our bags and these two undercover cops walk up to this guy, put his hand on his shoulder and they're like, hey, like follow us. And they basically like lead him out into like a private room because, and we asked somebody and they're like, yeah, that happens all the time because these guys are there to like literally steal bags. So they take the bags, act like they're theirs and then go get in the like getaway car and leave. Oh, man. So I'm, I have a very strong confusion with Charlotte because people love it. Like young people who are single. We have a really experienced Charlotte. The suburbs, they talk about it.

It's a great place to raise families. I mean, would you, does DFW like really exemplify Dallas? Is that the right word too? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was good word choice. Not really. So you can't judge a city. A lot of business travel. You can't judge the city, the city by the airport.

You know who knows this and understood this? This is so random. So Singapore. Singapore back in the day when it was just like a jungle and it was like an establishing. Yeah. You know, it's like a thriving community. A lot of business people moved to Singapore now. The prime minister that's famous for.

Singapore is Lee Kuan Yew. Okay. Did you know that? No, because I'm not good with names. So, Lee Kuan Yu is the one who's like, like beloved blew up Singapore and made it like the Singapore that we know today. His philosophy, he invested a ton in their airport because he said, we really need to make sure that our airport is the best first impression that tourists have of our city.

I think it's smart. It's so smart. No, I mean, it really is. Like, don't they have like a movie theater in their airport? Well, Singapore, have you ever seen crazy rich Asians? Yeah. The Singapore airport's like when they walk in and it's like, they're like, oh my gosh, this is crazy.

This is Singapore. Yeah. They have the big trees and stuff. What's the airport that has that water fountain that drops from the ceiling? That's the new JFK. I love that airport. No, wait. LaGuardia, the new LaGuardia.

Love that airport. The kids have so much fun. Yeah. Can just like dip a kid in there. It's a really important thing. It should be invested in. No, I agree. Denver is like so remote.

It's got all those weird conspiracy theories about it. Great airport though. Yeah, I mean, it's easy to fly into, but then people don't like it because then you have to drive so far to like the resorts or to like the downtown. Yeah, but do you want like, okay. Yeah, no, it's just interesting. Airports matter is what we're saying. We need to like really start like a campaign. Airports matter.

Airports matter. Yeah, so that happened. But we did make it back and I'm like a little sleepy. Okay, so the hardest part about making it back after like 30 hours of travel is that like life just goes on. And that's always what always bit me in the butt

about like, you know, trying to live in the moment is that like life does go on. And so and that happened to me so many times because like I was like the girl that was like, you know what? I'm just going to stay at the bar a little bit longer. Like, you know, and then the next morning it's like you still have to go to work.

That's how it is associated when you have kids. do. So like you don't really sleep much and like the life goes on. So we landed back in Nashville and the next morning, which is today, I had to wake up and go do a news segment for the local news. Yeah. Are you looking at me? I just had a question for you really quick. Yeah. Do you ever wish that you were married to someone like you? Oh, Lord, no, no. Okay. Two of us would be horrible. There's this guy. We'd be homeless on the streets. I know it. Like, I would be homeless on the streets with my kids, like in a caravan.

It would be, okay. And not like a fun caravan experience. Like, it would be wonderful. Not to keep talking about this experience, but okay, do you remember we're standing in the American Airlines line and we had just realized that our flight was canceled? Yeah. And there was this kind of like tall semi good looking dude who walked up.

He was very Nashville. Very Nashville. With the hat. And he walked up. So Danny's like already on our high. She's like, this is awesome. Like, we have no idea. Like, hey, where are you guys headed?

Like what's happening? This guy walks up and he's like, hey, he's like, my phone's dead. He's like, why are we all standing in this line? And they were like, we're like, oh, the flight scans. He's like to Nashville? And he's like, oh, man, I don't know what I'm going to do. My phone's dead. And you like loved helping him.

You were like, no, don't worry. I got it. You need a charger? Here's a charger. I was like, you're like me and you, buddy. Like, amazing race. And sometimes I think about it. I'm like, if you were married to someone like that who was like you that was like, we'll figure

it out? Like, what would things look like? And do you prefer that? Or is it like we balance each other out? No, I don't. I don't prefer that. Sometimes I do feel like, I'm like, come on, Jordan, just live a little. But I usually tell you in the moment, I'm like, take your shoes off. Like, feel the carpet. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, I'm just like, like, I want you to still enjoy life because, like, sometimes, like, Jordan's always so worried about the babysitter. And I'm like, she's fine. Like, she'll call you if she needs something. And he's like, check. And he's like, in with her all the time and I'm like they're okay like they're like adults they can handle themselves yeah tell you but then but then I get it but then our babysitter cancels on us today and like

decides to move on to another family and I'm like I think it's because our kids are too much yeah probably I think our kids were too much so but I agree with you I just was thinking about that because I wouldn't want to be married to someone like me and that's why like I knew when I married you I made the best investment of my life same Yeah. Because you know what? We'll talk about Costa Rica. If you married somebody like you, ew, y'all be so boring. There was so many, there were so many things we did in Costa Rica that like, if I was married to me, we'd have just never done. Yeah. I mean, too, I like literally made him like fly in like a tiny plane and like zip line in the jungle and I was like, we're going to die out here. But I was like,

it's like, it's like super like rickety. They like don't speak English. And we're like, I'm like, it's going to be great, babe. Yeah. You know, but there's always those experiences of those times where like the, not to be like somber, but when they threw that girl off the mountain, the top of the mountain, like she wasn't attached to the bungee cord. Yeah, no, that's why I kept, I, you know what, that's happened so little. It's like the odds. That's why I micromanaged them like screing my carabiner. So I would be like, uh, I don't think you screwed the carabiner. I go, I go, can you screw my carabiner all tighter? Because that's like, that's what happens is like they're so used to it that they're in like their flow state autopilot and then it's like, oh, we didn't

shot the person. No, I, I understand that. And but, you know, like, it's also like, like, If it's my time to go, it's my time to go. Okay. I don't want to be dumb about it. Like, I want to be smart. Like, I'm going to wear my seatbelt. You know, I'm going to make sure everything I do is like, they're qualified. They have like lots of reviews on Yelp.

Like, I'm very, you know. Yeah. I do my research. But, um, but yeah, I don't want to like live in fear. I know. I think that you might be happier than a fear-based person. I really think that dumb, fearless people are happier in life. I think you have to be because.

You're not, like, what are you worried about? What worries you? Well, I was really worried. I get very worried about, like, the kids, like, health. Okay, that's fair. That's easy, though. I was really worried about, like, the suitcases being unpacked when we got home, like, because that was, like, a lot, you know?

It's like, I don't like to have, like, all this, like, mess around. I like to have everything, like, pretty. Yeah. You don't believe me? No, I just, I get it. I'm just like, what's the big thing that, like, eats at you every day? Those are like, if I can get enough sleep, eight hours. Okay, that's fair.

And so like Jordan last night was like, really? We're going to bed. I was like, listen. Like this is the most important thing to me. Well, it was 6.30. I was like, this is the most important thing to me right now is this sleep. And like we have to respect each other's sleep. I literally said that.

Yeah, I left the room. He goes, okay, I'm leaving. So that stresses me out a lot. Spending time enough, like just time with my kids, each one of them. Like, I feel like I need to have like a strad in one-on-one date. soon. Yeah, for sure. That's been stressing me out a little bit.

And then I get stressed when like you're stressed. Like I felt like you were stressed this morning and that kind of stressed me out. Oh, about the babysitter? Yeah. And the other call that you got. Yeah. Like, okay, so like this is like so like when the babysitter canceled, I was like, yes. I was like, yes.

Okay, but just practically speaking, like, what was going to be your plan? Take the kids. Okay. Take the kids with us. And like if they say no, then I was going to say like you and sell it in Stratton can hang out in the car. Come pick me up. Or worse comes to worst. You stay home with the babysitter and y'all all watch the kids and I'll Uber to the or I'll drive myself to the show.

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Yeah. I'll do it. I mean, I've been living your style of life since we moved to Nashville. Also look, we took the kids. Was it not like the coolest experience for them? No, it was great. And they did great. It was great.

And we had like this big talk with them. And then not only that, but they let them in the studio and they were like, it's fine. Like we understand we bring kids all the time. I, no, listen. I, this is very. Like not to make something that's not deep deep, but this is deep for me because I agree with you like when our babysitter canceled. I was like, okay. He was so I had I had we've been gone for like seven days. I have a lot. I feel like I have to catch up on. Yeah. And it so I took them to frothy monkey and I was like listen big kids like y'all need to chill and like bring your coloring book. And I planned around that and it is kind of existential because the bigger question mark I feel like we've talked about on a couple podcasts here is like

how much of our lifestyle and routines and rhythms from Dallas we want to bring to here in Nashville and I told you one of the things I'm struggling with the most is like you know how much I how much of like the work routine I want to be in because it's just been completely shattered here like we just don't have a lot of stability here right now which is what me as a fear based person thrives on Like our house, you know, our house is not going to be ready probably until December. So we're in like a smaller place. There's really nowhere for you to retreat. We don't have offices.

We don't have like places to take phone calls. There's nowhere to retreat. And like we both work from home. So it's I know everybody's like world smallest violin probably. But it's like actually really hard to work. No. Yeah. If you have kids and you're like working from home, it's like impossible.

I think anyone would empathize with that. And with no office. And then on top of that like. Smith just doesn't, he just is protesting. He doesn't want to sleep through the night. Yeah. So there's no stability really in like when he's going to wake up. I am trying to see if we can like maybe have like somebody help us with sleep training.

Yeah. So so there's no stability in that. Like we're away from like we're making new fringe, which is awesome. So it's kind of like everything is new. And since we've moved to Nashville like it, I'm living how you love to live every day of your life. How do you like it? It's hard on me. It's been really hard on me and very challenging.

That's probably why I'm so happy. Because I'm like every day, it's like, no. I'm like, no routine. Baby sitters are canceling. Flights are being canceled. That's what's really challenged me. It's like a very like spiritual thing for me because I'm like, okay, you know, how much do I idolize this like make believe idea that I'm in control, you know?

And how much do I like worship this like this idea of control that never really. really existed. Like I treated that babysitter amazing and she still, she's still canceled and she still needed to like go to another family, which I totally respect. It's just funny because you and I are literally living the same way or we're living through the same circumstances. I am just living under this false belief that I'm in control. Whereas like you don't have that false belief and we end up in the same destination. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? Nothing changes. Nothing changes. So for me it's kind of like, okay, maybe what I'm actually starting to learn here is that I'm not in control and there's like a ability to just take your shoes

and socks off here and just like accept it it's beautiful but it is a wrestle it's a wrestle and it will be a wrestle for a long time but like you know what I think is like I can't wait till we fly through Charlotte again I'm never flying through Charlotte I already told the travel agent I was like no fly list No fly list. So, Costa Rica totally slept on. Like,

no, babe, people go there all the time. It's like a very popular place. I know, but we hadn't. And we never thought of even going. No, I'm going to be honest,

and this is horrible, but I never wanted to go because I was scared of the mosquitoes. I don't like mosquitoes at all. They just really, they irk me. I mean, who does? Right.

And so, and I don't really like bugs in general. And I've spent some time, I'm in Africa before and it kind of scarred me. Yeah. I was like, thank God. But no mosquitoes. God didn't call me to offer Africa.

But these were like also, never mind. We want to talk about that. So I was a little scared of all the bugs. Guys, I didn't see one mosquito there. I didn't see like one nasty bug. In fact, there were so many beautiful bugs. I kind of wanted to touch them. Right.

You know? Great weather. Great time. Well, it was a little toasty at first. But the people are amazing. Spanish speaking. Spanish speaking. So we got to practice out in our Spanish. The water was beautiful. The sand wasn't too hot. The waves weren't too big to where like the kids couldn't swim in the water. The hotel we stayed at. So we stayed at the four seasons, which was like a really good hotel on the peninsula, peninsula papagayo for kids. They had like the coolest kids club. Highly recommend. And there were so many excursions and like things you could do outside of the hotel. like go on like a monkey sightseeing tour or you could go ATVing through the tropical forest or go on a boat tour we got we rented jet skis one day we could you could go snorkeling it was just like the most magical experience ever because I think sometimes on the beach like or in cobo like I get a little bored it's like there's so much you can do it's just like lay by the pool and in cabo you can't even swim because you know the water's so cold and the waves are so dangerous it's very rocky beach Um, but in Costa Rica, not only that, but like, the food is so delicious. And the level of

hospitality that like Costa Ricans give you is like next level in my opinion. Like so much great like it was like, Inguilla was amazing. But this was like a 10 out of 10. The people are like very, so they have like free education there. So everyone is like very educated, very kind. It's like, it's like they're wise with their hospitality. Does it make sense. Yeah. Um, and it. And It's like their two biggest industries are like exports, largest pineapple exporter. I think. Yeah. No, they're not the largest pineapple exporter.

They have the largest market share of pineapple exports. Oh. Yeah, over 50%. Really? Uh-huh. He told me. And then coffee. Their coffee's amazing because they produce it all locally there.

Yep. Like if you go to the grocery store, there's probably a bunch of Costa Rican coffee. Uh-huh. And then their other industry is tourism. So like I feel like a lot of people just kind of. you know, really appreciate people coming in and like they're very welcoming too. I actually drew up a couple of interesting facts about Costa Rica that I learned. Please share.

Yeah, I learned so many from once again, like the people that lived there like are so, they love Costa Rica so much and they're like so passionate about Costa Rica and staying there. And so these are some interesting facts I learned about Costa Rica. It contains 6% of the world's biodiversity, even though it's only 0.030. 3% of the Earth's land area. So it has like a ton of different animals and fish and just wildlife that had like pumas and jaguars in the forest, monkeys. So it's like a really, really cool place to visit because you can just see all these animals.

They have no army. They got rid of their army in 1948. So they just invest heavily in education, health care, and conservation. They're very into like conservation, no plastic on the island. Or not the island, sorry, but in Costa Rica. It's not an island. On the peninsula. That confused me.

I thought I was on an island. Yeah, it's the peninsula. It's very close to Panama City in Guatemala and Nicaragua. So who protects them? I was thinking about that. Or is it just like, hey, let's not. I'll tell you. I think it's China.

China. They mess with them? No, I think they protect them in some ways. I think so. Let me tell you why in a second. It's a very strategic partnership. A very strategic geographic region to own. Right.

More than a quarter of the country is protection. So 25 to 30% of Costa Rica is national parks, wildlife refugees, and protected land, which is like one of the highest percentages in the world. It has both the Pacific Ocean and Caribbean Sea. So you can surf on one coast in the morning and swim on the other the same day. Pira Vida, that's like the phrase that they all say everybody. What does it mean? Because they kept saying it to me. It literally means pure life.

But it's kind of like their way of saying like, hey, what's that like good day? whatever, because where we were, I don't know if you know this, but that peninsula is one of the five blue zones in the world. Did you know that? Yeah, bad news. You don't believe in blues zones? They just got debunked. Okay, so I did see some of that, but regardless, I think that there's still stuff to like learn

from it. People live a long time there. Isn't it like they were, it was just debunked? I was reading about this. Andrew Heuberman. Yeah, he debunked them. Isn't it like all propaganda? I think so.

Or like not propaganda. It's like or like tourism boards or they were yeah. Or it's just or like they would go in and do like these census like studies. Yeah. And like the way they studied it was like not super sound. I'm still going to believe it because I just like it's like what was it like there's no harm. No one was basing their life around blue zones. No they were actually.

People do because there's the all these books written about these areas that are blue zones and like why they live to be so old. I think it is like whether. there's a hundred blue zones or five it's like just good advice because I'll tell you what they say in a second I personally if it's all debunked I'm just going to say it Nashville's a blue zone

there are five of these zones and most of them are very similar so you have the peninsula and Costa Rica Okina Okinawa Okinawa Japan

Sardinia Italy Ikera Echaria, Greece in Loma Linda, California. The Icarians. Oh, Icaria. Sorry, that was like so bad the way I said it. So yeah, a lot of these, it says they have lots of natural daily movement instead of intense

gym workouts. They mostly eat whole food, plant forward diets. They have strong family and community relationships, lower levels of chronic stress, a sense of purpose, good sleep habits, and low smoking rates. So the one thing I noticed when we were in Costa Rica is, I don't know if you noticed this, it actually made my eyes sweat a little bit, as Josh Hoverton would say. When we were like ATVing through those like local communities, there were so many people walking alongside the road.

Did you notice that? Like they were just getting from like they were, it was Sunday morning so a lot of them were walking to church. Everyone was playing soccer. Everyone was playing soccer. But let me get, but did you notice that almost everyone walking was holding hands? there was a 15-year-old boy walking with his mom holding her hand. Do you notice that?

No. I noticed everyone was walking hands like old couples, young couples, mom and son, mom and daughter relationship. Like everyone was holding hands when they were walking wherever they were going, which was just like so sweet because if you see a 15-year-old boy here in Nashville or Dallas or wherever, they're not going to be like, yeah, mom, I want to hold your hand.

I don't know. There's a lot of homeschool kid here. Yeah, I mean, maybe, maybe. For sure. But you could tell it was like a culturally like really, really like that's just like what they did everywhere they were going they were holding hands not like that we passed by like on the way to where we were going we passed by like it seems like every other mild their mild there's like a soccer field where everyone is gathering they're bringing foods and fresh fruits and all

this stuff and you have this community and they are all with their kids hanging out watching the husbands play soccer yeah which was so sweet because they're not like professional athletes but they're just getting together to like you know play it's competitive it brings people together the coolest thing I think was when we passed the church because first of all the music was blaring like it was like you were passing like a club like it was blaring like louder it was like a concert in there and you see all these people walking and you could tell that there wasn't like a specific hour that like oh church started therefore we all had because there were a lot of people in and outside of the building just hanging out people set up tables and chairs to like have breakfast

in the middle of the road. Did you see that? I did see that. In the middle of the road, they're like everything, it's like the city or the town had just stopped. And everybody's just hanging out and all like, they saw us driving and they were like,

what are you doing? Like where you're headed churches right here. It was like, it was like a day experience of just like community, hanging out, food, fun, holding hands. Like it was so sweet. It was so different than like I feel like the church. And a lot of these like,

it's kind of hard to explain this. But we were heading like we were driving ATVs up the mountain to zip line down basically. And so a lot of these communities were very remote. Like we probably went through like seven and they're like way up there on the mountain. Oh yeah. All of a sudden you see like a couple houses and like a soccer field.

We're probably 300 people that live in these communities. But I mean, it was just, it was so cool. And like no grocery stores. No grocery stores at all. Like they're having to do like markets and probably trade and sell with each other. Like a lot of them are growing fruits and vegetables in their backyard because also the weather is amazing. so you can.

But it was, it was really, really cool to see. So that was one thing that, I don't even remember where it was. You were talking about blue zones? I was talking about blue zones. Oh, my interesting facts.

But then one thing about the blue zones is, I feel like that type of culture and like what you see there is very common in those other blue zones. Yeah. So whether it's like accurate or not, like all of that. Now there was a book written on this,

like some, you know, I can't remember anybody's name. But they wrote, it's like a famous, like a very, very popular book about Blue Zones. And a lot of reasons why people also debunk it or debunk that author is because she also wrote in that like one of the things that like keeps people living so long is red wine or wine at night.

Right. And like basically that's been like extremely debunked. But maybe it's not the wine, but it was like the fact that people were getting together in community that was actually helping. Yeah. Don't you think like I'm not being like cheesy about this? Like don't you think there's a lot of elements to like what makes a blues. zone present and like here.

Franklin. Yeah. Franklin specifically. I think that's the the type of life that people are trying to accomplish. Yeah, because it does. Like, I think there's a correlation between your community and your stress levels. Like, that's the one thing I feel like I've taken away from here is the more that I'm around people, because we're probably more social here than we've been in years.

And we had great friends in Dallas, but it's just like everyone's like, come over for dinner. Come over for dinner. And I don't know if you feel this like, but I feel like, but I feel like, my general stress levels are like way lower. Especially when you have your shoes off. Yeah, when I have my shoes off and I've got no stability. Like technically I should be just in shambles right now. Right.

But I feel so much less stress. I think the social aspect, if you were to like quantify all of the things that make a blue zone, I think that the social aspect will keep someone alive the longest. Well, and that's a big thing. I think one of the reasons you find that or you feel that way in Franklin is I think a lot of people are trying to support like their local community as well, whether it's like a meat market or a farmer's market. Like a lot of people don't want to go to like the big grocery store. Like they want to support their community. Not only that, but they want like fresher goods that are not

covered in pesticides and chemicals. And so I feel like that's very prevalent in Franklin too. Like even that farmer's market we went to with Land and Olivia. Like the thing about the thing about shopping locally though, it is very expensive. Like I got that thing of guacamole. It was like $30. It's crazy. The tortillas I got at like the local. There's a lot. There's a lot. There's a thing about. a lady that makes tortillas and they're amazing tortillas, but they were 20 bucks for like, it's crazy. For like eight. The eggs were like, what, like 12, 14 bucks?

So that's the hardest part about like, I feel like where people are at, especially when they live in a city. It's like you want that. You want to support the local market. You want to help other people, but it's like, the math ain't mathin. It doesn't make sense for us, for me to pay $20 or people to pay $40, $30 for a thing of guacamole as much as I want to help you. Yeah.

I mean, that is like the conundrum is like the more that you stand against like big food. Like if we didn't have big food like we all starve. Well, and then people like complain about whenever, you know, all this process stuff. But then they're also not what look. We can't pay for the. That's why it is kind of like a privilege thing to talk about like you're. Oh, it's all those LA celebrities that are like, yeah, it's organic. It's been local.

It's so privileged. It's so privileged to be able to eat that healthy. Like. And so. Solve that problem a different day. Yeah, that's a big one. Well, I was also reading about like groceries are the most expensive they've ever been. Like in ever.

And there's some like term that they put to it. But basically like groceries are like one of the few goods that when they increase in price, they never go back down. They always stay at that price. I totally. It's it's so sad. It's horrible. It's like the one like if there was like a magic wand where it's like I feel like if you just fix

X, Y, Z issue, it would really alleviate a lot of strong. in like Americans lives. I think it's the groceries. Well, not only that, but like it's, I mean, it's just, I think that's why people were so excited about RFK. And I don't know if they still are. But like, so this guy that, yeah, I'm kind of like over politics. Like right now, I can't.

But let me pull up this guy. So I was listening to that Sean Ryan podcast that I love. And I was telling you about that Navy pilot. his name is Keegan Gill. Okay, so he did this whole, he was on Sean Ryan. He survived like one of the fastest ejections out of like a fighter plane ever, which usually when you're ejected like at that speed or that rate, like you just instantly die.

I cannot wait for you to attach this to groceries. Yeah, okay. So. I'm waiting for it. Well, to die it. Oh, to die. Okay. Yeah.

So he basically, he broke like his neck. He broke his arms, his legs. He was like 80 degrees. when they found him in the water. He should have died from hypothermia. He didn't. He should have died from he actually like had an artery burst. And it should have,

he should have bled out and bled to death. But because he was so cold in the water when he landed, it like prevented him from bleeding out. Anyway, had all these crazy injuries and was in the hospital for months and months, months, years. And going through PT,

he was paralyzed from the neck down for like the first like three months or so. And he talked about how, what they were feeding him in the hospital was like basically like just poison. Like not only like the food because everything is like super processed, they're giving him like ding-dongs and like, you know, Doritos and like just disgusting food. And not like that, but then that started to make him feel even worse. So then they put him on 24 medications. What?

So when he got out of the hospital, he was on 24 medications. He was addicted to every single one of them, gabapentin. and ended up being the hardest one prim to get off of. But just like that whole process. Gabapentin is like a nerve blocker or something. I actually have been prescribed it for anxiety before. And it's actually very, they tell you it's not addictive.

Oh, is that what they call a beta blocker? Bade blocker, yes, I believe. Oh, that's what, nerve pain, like with shingles you give. Yeah. And also it can,

the only other cause I've heard of is epilepsy. Like they give it to people have seizures. Yeah, so anyway. They said that West and a. Amanda on the summer house reunion. We're on beta blockers. We're on beta blockers. I could see that.

Yeah. Because I think it does kind of like chilly. It's supposed to help with anxiety. Yeah, it just kind of makes you numb. Yeah, it makes you a little bit more numb. I've taken it before. It didn't really do anything for me. It actually just kind of made me sleepy.

But you know, I'm like the anomaly. I'm a brick. So anyway, but he was just talking about how that made him sicker and sicker and sicker and like he couldn't get out of it because of that. Because of like he was like, here we are at the, the hospital. and they're like helping me every day with like my PT and trying to get me on my he started to gain like you know his arm functioned back his legs functioning back his brain he couldn't speak because his brain was so messed up like he couldn't even put words together he couldn't remember

anything and here they are giving him like the worst food ever it's just all messed up it's like what do you do yeah that's crazy I mean yeah what can you do I mean I guess I guess you can just like maybe start growing stuff in your backyard. Yeah. But that's like, then you have to have good climate. And you got to have land. You got to push further out from cities. Well, no, sometimes they have those like little garden block.

I know. I always wonder. I see these little gardens. I'm like, how long is that going to last you a week? Well, no. No,

you know who gardens lie is Bridgett. She gardens, like she has all over own cucumbers. She grows tomatoes. She grows everything. Like, and she cooks with them. I know.

I have no. I have no. concept of those little garden boxes like how long that last you. To me I'm like that's a day forever. No no I know that they can survive for years but like let's say you get through a season of your little garden box growing tomatoes. Yeah. It's like cool you have a week's worth of tomatoes. Like I have no concept of like how much land you need to like have a year's supply of food. Well did you see that the pineapple plantation we flew over

it in Costa Rica? Yeah but babe that's supplying more than 50% of the world's pineapples. I don't think that's true. It is true. You told you Tell me. I will look at Chachapiti. I remember he didn't tell me that. Well, if it's not true, then I want you to know that your boyfriend, Sergio, was the one who my mind. He told me that. He told me that it doesn't supply that.

Like, hold on. And also just quick note, I don't think this matters. I don't think people were coming here for, like, hardcore medical advice. But the gabapentin is like a nerve and brain thing. And then a beta blocker is for your heart. It, like, it keeps like stress hormones. Yeah. From getting in the bloodstream and like, please don't sue us.

We are not doctors. Although I do have a minor in biology. Where is the majority of the world's pineapple? I was going to say porn. Grown. The pineapple oligarchy is listening to this just dying to know if you say the truth. Oh, Kastrika, the world's largest exporter of fresh pineapple. Yeah, see, I told you.

Oh, maybe he told me it. It's not the biggest plantation of pineapples. Oh, that one that we flew over? Yeah. There's no way. That's what I think you told me. Just if anybody was curious, it's also the Philippines, Brazil, Thailand and Indonesia. Don't you ever just wish that we owned a commodities business?

Do you ever wish that? I wish that like almost every day. Not to be dumb, but commodities is something that everybody needs. Everyone needs. Like you don't really have to deal with marketing. It is a commodity. You know what I mean? Like oil.

Like. No, I know. We should be selling wood. Lumber. Remember we met that lumber family? Seven generation lumber family. I know. You think they're stressed out about like the state of meta ads?

Okay. But think about the oil and gas people with like AI and electric cars, they got to be a little stressed out. Babe, these guys are not stressed out at all because to make these things, you have to run the plants that run on oil. Like they're totally protected. But what about when it runs out? What?

Oil? Yeah, did we run out of oil again? Yeah, no, we can't. allegedly, but we'll probably have a replacement. But yeah, I mean, sure, it's like, it's something to think about, but that's what? Lumber. Lumber? These guys are.

Somebody's got to cut it down. We talked to a seven generation lumber family. Do you know why they're not stressed about running out of lumber? Because they own all the land where they regrow the trees. They literally cycle through thousands of acres of lumber and they just cut them down, rebuild. Cut them down, rebuild. I mean, I could try to get into it. Yeah, no, I think we should.

What's your favorite commodity? I don't know. Bottled water? That's always a good one. Bottled water, yeah, that's a great one. Liquid death already took that one. Yeah, they took it. That would have been a really good one.

There's a running joke on Twitter that every three years, there's a new like bottled water brand that takes off and blows up. And it's kind of true. Like it was like. I'm like so over liquid death. Like is everybody? I know. So then there's going to be another one.

Yeah. Yeah. So. I could maybe, I could see myself coming out with a bottled water. Well, my. How do I make water? better better. Well, so here's like if we were actually going to go down this path, this is what I would say is that no one wants to be in farming right now, right? But it's kind of like a really interesting

time to be in farming. Well, because one is robotics are starting to really take off. Did you see all those cameras this morning? Wasn't it kind of sad? Wait, what cameras? What are you talking about? Did you film the cameras when we walked in this morning? Guys, we were at a news studio. Okay. Think about like any news, sorry, I'm like kind of cutting off and interrupting you. No, it's okay. Think about any like news like movie where everybody's running around, like all of the cameras were robots. Did you don't notice that? There was nobody in the studio. She told me that everybody had been replaced by robots. Oh, I didn't hear this. Yeah, in the studio. So those students, those rob, those cameras were like literally robots doing the things, like moving the camera. Like they didn't have any cameraman.

That's a tragedy. That didn't you. Isn't that weird that the studio was so quiet? Yeah, but that's the second studio we've been in like that. But think about the last studio we were in, how crazy it was. Oh, that's true. With all those people running around? That's so true. That's so true.

It was so quiet. Nobody was in the studio. Anyway. Yeah. I mean, listen, this is, we can leave off. We don't need to talk about how we're going to start a farm. But like, it's kind of a great time to get into farming. A, we need more farms and farmers.

We're too reliant on other countries. Baby, does farmer want a wife? Farmer wants a wife? You want to be able to farm. But that's the thing is I don't know what we would grow. Just anything that like is a commodity. Is a commodity? Yeah, whatever is in the most demand.

Oh no. See, I just, whatever grows the best. In Nashville? Yeah. Because if I'm going to grow something, I want to be good. Yeah, true, true. We'll think about it. So I was going to tell you something else.

Oh, I've never finished my facts about Costa Rica. Oh, please. Okay. Okay. So the blue zones. Sloths are everywhere, but they are hard to spot. We didn't see any sloths or monkeys. We were kind of bummed about that.

Coffee is the point of national pride. They do have really great coffee. You won't find addresses the way you do in the U.S. directions often rely on landmarks, such as 200 meters north of the old church. It's a renewable energy leader. This is really interesting. Costa Rica frequently generates nearly all of its electricity from renewable sources like hydropower, wind, geothermal, and solar.

The rainforests are incredibly loud at dawn and dusk. That was true. It was very, very loud when we were seeing in the jungle. Because of the bugs? Just like, yeah, because of the nightlife. I mean, the wildlife. Oh, yeah, no. They're out there partying.

They're out there at the discotheca. So I thought this was really interesting because when we were going to ATV, no, actually on the way home from ziplining. Sorry, there were so many adventures. there was the guy that was driving us was a local to the closest town and he was telling us about how China made a deal with Costa Rica and all the Chinese when they moved there don't have to pay taxes. Yeah, their tax exempt.

So interesting fact, I don't think that's true. I did my own little research. Really? Apparently there's like a big misunderstanding amongst locals and they think that. and there might be like some advantages that they give them like business wise, but it's not tax related. So in 2007, Costa Rica switched diplomatic recognition from Taiwan to the People's Republic of China. Oh.

After the switch, China invested heavily in Costa Rica, including their helping finance the construction of the national stadium in San Jose. Did you see that national stadium when we were landing? So that's like all China. they increased trade and investment, purchasing Costa Rican exports such as agricultural products and medical devices. China is one of Costa Rica's largest trading partners, though the United States remains Costa Rica's largest overall trading partner in the country's biggest source of tourist and foreign investment. Costa Rica has generally tried to maintain good relationships with China and the United States. It welcomes Chinese investment while also maintaining strong economical, cultural, and security ties with the U.S.

So I asked, okay, do the business owners not have to pay taxes? Do Chinese people home, like Chinese homeowners not have to pay taxes? Chinese citizens and Chinese own businesses in Costa Rica are generally subject to the same tax laws as everyone else. Costa Rican tax laws do not exempt people based on nationality. The law explicitly states that taxpayers are liable regardless of nationality if they earn taxable income or conduct business in Costa Rica. So it talks about homeowners are the same thing.

You may have heard claims that Chinese businesses don't pay taxes. Those claims usually stem from one of three situations. Some companies operate in free trade zones where qualifying businesses receive tax incentives to encourage investment and job creation. Some businesses may illegally evade taxes as can happen in any country and then just rumors and misconception. Man. So he was wrong.

Boy, I was not. I was literally thinking China was taking over coast. I know the way he like, the way he said it. And then what was interesting was, I think the one of the most interesting parts of whenever you're driving through these towns in Costa Rica are there are like Chinese martes all the sudden. And you're like, where do that come from? Like everybody's speaking Spanish. It's very random. And he said that these marts are like, he's like, you get a bottle bottle of water for $4. You'll get it there for 50 cents. Like it's all, you know. But yeah, I thought that was interesting. Huh.

You know, it's like, do other people find this interesting or is it just us? You know, I was actually thinking the same thing about this podcast. This podcast has been, we're on just such an, a curie, like intellectual curiosity journey. About Costa Rica. And I don't read any of the comments or talk to really anyone about this podcast. I wonder if they find it interesting. I know. Because you and I do find some things super interesting that other people don't.

I think that they do. And if they don't, I feel like they're wrong. I just feel like you guys need to be interested in Costa Rica because it really is such a cool place. But it might be one of those things where it's like if you haven't read the book, then it's not interesting. Like maybe people that haven't gone are like, don't care. You know? Yeah. But if you've gone, you're probably like, oh, that's so interesting, Danny.

Like, yes, I saw a Chinese mark too. Yeah. Thanks for explaining that. Well, and the tourism board paid us to say all this. Yeah, we are working with the Chinese. No, Costa Rica. No, it's owned basically by China. By China.

So I'm kidding. We're not. We didn't. We don't. We don't take any sponsorships. I mean, I would. There's a number. No,

from foreign governments. It's kind of like who's that, who's that, what's that company that wanted to, oh, the vasectomy people. The vasectomy people. Like they wanted to,

like the people we didn't take a deal, right? No. No, yeah, because they didn't want it. But they wanted to pay. No, but if you would have like, yeah, they want it.

So like sometimes like brands just reach out to you that aren't brands like milk. Like milk will just. just reach out. Yeah, or cotton. Or cotton. And it's like, who do you work for? And they're like, we work for milk. And I'm like, oh, so you work for like Horizon? They're like, no, we work for milk. I'm like, like the, all the milks of the world. They're like, yes, the commodity, like the milk. And so like we've worked with milk. No, we haven't worked with milk, but milk did reach out. I would work with milk if milk ever wants to reach out to me. I like milk. Cotton seemed more

appropriate. Cotton, I really like cotton. So cotton, we work with cotton. Um, What were we talking about? Oh, Torres and Boards. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, so the vasectomy people. Oh, the vasectomy people.

Because vasectomies are kind of starting to be questioned. So we're like, who do you work for? And they're like, we work for vasectomies. Like there's a, there's a correlation right now between like prostate cancer and vasectomy. That's like a new conversation that's happening.

Allegedly. We're not going to be a medical list. I didn't even research it. But that that's conversation started popping up. So then who was it? Like who? It was the vasectomy people. The vasectomy lobby?

Yeah. The vasectomy lobby approached us and was like, listen, we want Jordan to document his vasectomy the same way Danny documented her natural birth. And I was like, yeah, who? Botox. Not a brand, just Botox. Botox for getting headaches. Just like not, don't mention a brand. Don't mention anything.

Just the fact that you get Botox for headaches. And then I really wanted to work with them because I did do it. And then they never replied. I was like, so rude. You're kind of a great candidate because you're like the only person I've ever met that. injected Botox into her shoulders. No, and I made a whole video about it because I did it in my shoulders. Did it work?

Do you still get, do you get less migraines? Um, it worked for like, I feel like a lot of other reasons besides migraines, just like overall tension and pain that I dealt with every day. Yeah. See,

feel stressed. Yeah. Yeah. I do. Wow. I don't want to say I highly recommend it because I don't know. Some people are like very against both facts. So I'm really weird about,

but like if they want to pay me, I'll do it. It's fair. To me it's like, okay. Yeah. So, you know how sometimes. She's taking some crazy brand deals, guys. One time she took a campaign from Burger King.

About cows parts. But listen, that's actually not the path I wanted to go down. You know, like sometimes I do respond to my haters. It's like I'm half Scorpio, half Libra. And like the Scorpio of me is not. I don't even really believe in anybody of those stuff, but I kind of do a little bit because, like, Scorpio is real.

I have some Scorpio in me, and when it comes out, it's like, brer. No, it's like, wait, hold on. It's like, no, it's like like like like. Like that. Not rare. It's like, yeah.

And so I, there was like this girl. Did you see you when I did this? No. I'm so annoyed because I didn't screenshot it. And like now the DM is so pushed back. Yeah. Wait, maybe I could find it. No, it's okay.

So this girl who looked super normal had the nerve to, she was like, hey, Danny, you know, I've been a follower for a long time because that's how they always start. Yeah. And the haters always start that way. The nice people start that way too. And that's cool. But I'm just talking about the people that are opinionated. The one who are about to announce. They're like, listen, I've been a fault.

Because they want, they want you to know that like they know you and now they see the flaw in you. And it means more because they followed you for a long time. Right. So she was like, you know, I just read this article and I just want to let you know like how disappointed I am in the video that you posted about all the things you rejected from the hospital. Like you have a huge responsibility as an influencer and I'm just, you really need to take that responsibility more serious because you could not only be impacting others, but be impacting like babies. And basically this whole article is about how. And she had like a couple of other like, you know, twisty turning like knife statements in there. that were like, not mean, but just like a little gutterol.

So the video that I made in the hospital of like everything I rejected. So I didn't get potosin. I didn't get the epidural. I didn't. I did, um, delayed cord clamping. Everything that I did was, it was like not that controversial. Like people do that stuff all the time. Like just not getting potosin or not getting.

Right. And I did. I told, I told the doctor I will have potocin, but only if I start to bleed. Like I don't need potosin if I'm not bleeding. So anyway, um, but you know what's so funny in the video. Oh, this article, she said, at me was all about how people, parents are rejecting the vitamin K shot. And so babies are like bleeding out. Like it's horrible. Right. So she's like, Danny like what? Is that true? No, yeah. It was like,

it's like science. Like vitamin K. I got the, I gave our kids the vitamin K shot. Huh. And she was like, I'm just so disappointed in your video and how like you promoted not getting the vitamin K shot. I was like, dude, I literally don't know what you're talking about. All my boys have had vitamin. All of my kids have had the vitamin K shot because vitamin K does help like especially boys if you're getting circumcised like prevent that like intense bleeding if that happens so I did it and she was here calling me up because saying I didn't so would you say bye I was like girl honestly it's so then we got into the whole argument because you know we went on and on oh y'all were like debating yeah but I always make my comments screenshotable so it's like if people are whatever posted and be like look at what dany said

it always makes sure that's screenshotable the worst thing is the worst thing is that's screenshotable the worst I'll say to you if you DM me is you're being really mean. Okay. Like I will be like, you're just a meany pants. I'll be like, you're a mean girl and I'm sorry. Like, but I don't even get sarcastic with them. I'm very like, hey, this is very mean. Right. You know? So anyway, so I replied back to her and I was like, hey, you know, honestly, it's really like, it's kind of people like you, I feel like to start these rumors because I did do the vitamin K shot and I did advise. I didn't advise anybody to do anything. In fact, the beginning of the video, I made a disclaimer, or a medical discount and being like,

I don't know what I'm talking about. This is what I did. But I kind of do know what I'm talking about sometimes. Yeah. My name biology. Yeah. And so I was like, obviously you didn't watch the video. And I do feel like it's people like you that start these rumors about me being a certain way.

And that's not even true. And da, da, da, da, da. And she was like, you know, I apologize, but I still stand by the fact that like you have a huge responsibility to like basically, what's it called? Sensor what you share because, you know, you could be. influencing like people to do something that's not. And I'm like, okay, first of all, how scary of a world would it be if we weren't allowed to share our personal experiences?

Look at the history. Look at when people were smoking while they were pregnant and people were saying that was fine. Or lobotomies whenever you have depression or different sleeping, like the ways that infants sleep on their back are the sleeping positions. Like there's been a lot of times in life where the world. The medical establishment was wrong. Where they were wrong. And like, but thank goodness we're able to share our experience.

and be like, hey, you know what? I tried, instead of getting on an antidepressant, I tried going gluten-free, and now I feel a lot better. You know, so there's just experiences and things that, like, I just, to me, it's like everybody has their own autonomy. And, like, just because you see a video of somebody jumping off a cliff, you're not going to go jump off a cliff. Like, everybody has to do their own research and do their own thing.

And, like, how scary of a world would it be if we couldn't share our experiences? Yeah. What she's really saying is, like, your experience made me uncomfortable. Yeah. I'm so sorry. Or maybe she's actually angry about all the babies that are suffering and I am too, but like I didn't make a video saying not to get the Viam and K shot. I did do the Feynman K shot. Yeah.

Okay. Well, it's on the public record now. Yeah. We know. Yeah. What was her name? I think it was Brooke. What was her last name?

I think he's her. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Her social screen. We would never. We would never. Or would be. No, we wouldn't.

I have so many tangents. You know, I never got to finish my interesting facts about Costa Rica. We'll just move on. Yeah. I feel like people are like over it. You think? Give us one more. No, it's okay.

Okay, okay. A lot of people that embraces or a lot of people in Costa Rica have braces. Did you notice that? Yes. Okay. That's it. It's because it's one of the largest markets for where people like travel to for dental care because it's cheaper. That's so interesting, babe.

So yeah, Costa Rica is great, and I highly recommend everyone to go. I did fly in this little red plane that was actually created for National Geographic to take photos. Now, I don't know if it was just photos in Costa Rica, but it was like a photography airplane. It was cool. What's so cool about this little plane is like the power that it has so you can like fly like right above the water whenever, like, above a valley or a river and then just zoom right up into the air and be really high into air. Mm-hmm. It was so fun.

And then I was like, I got off and I was like, Jordan, you have to do it. And then Jordan did it. And then we sent our nanny. And then we sent our nanny, Brenda. Because it was like one of those experiences where it's like, no, but like you want everyone to do it because it was so cool. Like I texted Jordan while I was on the plane. I was like, you have to do this and sent him a selfie.

Yeah. It was a really cool experience. Then. We saw two turtles mating in the water. I'm so happy you brought that up and we were kind of like is this a sign and then we were like

we were talking about like should we have a fifth child and then we go out on the boat and see these two turtles and I'm like this this turtle's murdering the other right in front of us we are literally witnessing a homicide

and then the guy on the boat was like no they're mating well he told me they were playing and I was like oh that's so cute and then I was like oh we also saw a lot of rainbows and just as a sign

like when we found out the night before we found out we were pregnant with who is which baby was Smith Smith yeah I saw a rainbow the night before and I was like oh cool God's God's saying I got you you know yeah you're taking care of and then we found out as a surprise that we were pregnant with our fourth and I was like oh and I saw a lot of rainbows in Costa Rica and then I saw those turtles mating so I was like maybe we should have a fifth but then our baby sitter canceled on us this morning and I said we should not have a fifth. Yeah.

We should definitely not have a fifth. Maybe someday. Maybe so let's keep the door open. Let's not be so fear-based. If we see turtles maybe again, then we'll really know. We like walk outside naturally. We go to the zoo this weekend.

Yeah. Then we'll really know. I don't know. I could see it. We don't test our Lord and Savior like that. No, and you know, I don't look for signs like that from God. I don't really either. To me, it's like a little...

Rainbow. No, I'm saying it's like a little... I don't want to put God in a box like that. Yeah, it's like I demand answers. Like, okay, God, show me a rainbow. Well, it means every once in a while, it's cool. You know, he's like, okay, fine. I don't know.

But like every day. You think God speaks like that through like signs? Yeah, 100%. I do. Oh, I don't know. You don't? Uh... I think the devil speaks like that.

that. So why wouldn't God? You might want to stop twisting like people really hate when we do that. I get comments about it. Did we twist in our chairs? Yeah, it's just like annoys people. It's like visually. We have a responsibility with this platform.

You have responsibility with this platform. Yeah, I don't know if I, I think that sometimes like something can happen and you're like, oh, I feel like it was like a God wink. But I don't think that like when people are like, like um like you know this is like pretty much the entire old testament is god giving signs but he was like a lot more like up up front with those oh the plagues and all that yeah oh yeah like you're talking like big signs yeah most of the signs were very like this is coming or this is

not i just don't like when people treat it like a like a like a hyper spiritualized things yeah what's the thing that you rub the genie's belly oh yeah no wait that's buddhuda I don't know. No, no. Well, you can rub Buddha's belly, but you can also rub a genie bottle. Yeah, yeah. And then you can just like, a genie's belly.

Genie in the bottle, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then just like ask her something and be like, God, show me a sign. See, but I think that what you and I both struggle with is I actually think we should ask God for more. I think he wants to give us more. But we don't like to ask because of our pride. That's what I think. just me.

Or maybe because of fear because it's like, will I really know that it's from God? Because will it, will the doubt like is my doubt more powerful than my faith? I don't know. It's so deep. Listen, I love this tangent. Maybe let's save it for our next episode. Okay. Well, we'll wrap up this, this episode because it's just been full of so much wisdom and knowledge and humor.

that's just what we have to offer. Tell your friends about this podcast. Yes, please do. This weekend's going to be really fun. Jordan's parents and my parents are coming into town. And we have quite a full itinerary. We do have full it because Jordan cannot not have plans. So we have lots of plans.

Well, we love you guys. Thanks for listening. And we'll talk to you later. Bye. Bye. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.