De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - We're Going Through it, Jordan's a Hater, and of Course, Taylor Swift

Episode Date: August 21, 2025

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How are you feeling? I literally had to help her up to get up here. I feel great. Yeah, no, for sure. She's been sending me a lot of pretty honest. text this morning, like gifts of her and, or of like someone in the fetal position, her saying, I only have 10 days of left of this first trimester, but I don't think I'm going to make it.

It feel, it feel that way sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes it'd be like that. There's, there are some days of this pregnancy where I wake up and I'm like, I, I, I, I can't do this. Like, I can't. Is it the nausea? Yeah.

It's just the perpetual. nausea that just like it's just kind of like you know it's truly like the same way of like feeling hungover oh you know that for like three months straight yeah that's horrible and you know like the days that you're hungover you're just like today's awash like you know I'm not going to be doing anything productive like I'm not motivated I don't care what I look like I don't care what I do I just need to get through the day but then it's like grand hogs day and it starts all over so you just you know, it's just, you know, I don't want to complain, but sometimes it, are you not allowed to complain in your first trimester? You know, it's just, I know, people are fickle.

No, it's okay, it's okay. It makes sense. It's, it's all good, you know, they say that you should be thankful for the nausea because it means that your body's doing the right thing. So I'll just try to reframe my state of mind 24-7, but. If it makes you feel any better, I threw up this morning too. Yeah. I don't really know why. I think I took because you're codependent. Yeah, right. I was like, I want her pain to be my pain. You're like, I, you're like, she doesn't feel good. I need to not feel good too. No, it's so funny though, because I started feeling nauseous and I was being a big baby about it. I was just like, oh, my tummy hurts. I feel so bad. But it was like, I think what happened is I took my vitamins before I ate. Okay, that's a great. Analogy of how you feel. Feeling yes like where your mouth is watering we're like everything in that in that 20 minutes where you're just like I can't even like if I move I'm going to throw up and like everything sounds bad nothing makes it that's how I feel all day. I know it's horrible it's just in see I just threw up and I felt better like I'm I'm totally good now sometimes when I do throw up I feel better for like 30 minutes really yeah like honestly like I could throw up right now.

if I wanted to. What are you supposed to think about ice cubes? I don't know if that's like a rule. I just, that's my rule. Like when I start to think about, because sometimes like these intrusive pregnancy, nausea thoughts come in and like,

all this picture like the most disgusting thing ever. Like, it just happened. Ketchup and man, he's mixed together. Like, I can't. It's one of my biggest fears.

It's kind of like I, I replay this one scene of like, Nikki, who's being an art. team at LTK conference dipping her french fries into venez and it instantly yeah she hasn't been here in like three years so that's that's random she knows because she we shared a room and she's sitting on the beds and i'm like niki what you're doing will haunt me for the rest of my life and i think about it it's like it's an intrusive thought and so sometimes those intrusive thoughts like just

Like a whole coffee of, I mean, whole table of coffee. Like, just cups of coffee. Like, almost like beer pong, but all coffee mugs. Yeah. That's another intrusive thought. There's probably at least like 40% of the audience that's also in their first trimester and they're all listening to this just throwing up in their cars right now. Yeah, like, but then when those intrusive thoughts come in, I just picture a bowl of ice.

Yeah. And it makes me feel better. It's kind of a- try to smell the ice. It's a good kind of like psychology lesson too because like we get like I get intrusive thoughts like you're not good enough. You're a piece of crap. And then I just maybe can also think about a bowl of ice.

Let me try. No, I still feel bad. If you just picture like your dad hugging you. Yeah. Yeah. Just like. Okay. Okay.

We'll find what you're like what your picture is. Yeah. No. I think yeah, I need to figure that out though. Um, but I gave into my intrusive thoughts and I definitely threw it. up this morning. You know what's so funny is what I've realized about myself, this has happened twice now where I've been on a work call. And for whatever reason, are you not on a work call? No, no,

but like I want to talk about two specific instances. I'm on a work call and I'm like, I don't, like this shouldn't be interrupting this, although it's a very like, I should have easily been like, hey, I'm kind of feeling nauseous. Like, let me call you back. But instead, I put it on mute. and let him keep talking. And then I threw up. And then I would stop throwing up. And then I would be like, oh, hey, yeah, no, that makes total sense. Like a filler word.

And then I would, and like, he never knew. Well, you did the same thing when you broke. That's what I'm saying. When I broke my pinky toe, it was literally at a 90 degree angle. Like literally. And I, the toe. I carried it on. Was bent completely backward.

And I was like. And I look down and I see Jordan like, like, like screeching in pain. And his, because his phone's on me. And I'm like, hang up the dang phone. He's like, I can't. And so I take him to the emergency room and he stays on the phone call. Yeah, no. That was such a funny era.

Remember we had people sign up for our email list? Yeah, to see my broken toe. Yeah, because we couldn't just post it on the internet. It had to be like behind a concealed wall. It was bad. It was like 90, full 90. Oh, you need to find those photos. Was it my pinky toe?

Yeah, I remember they had to pop it into place. It gives me the hebi-jee-jeeves. It was funny. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm so happy like those little moments happen where maybe you can find some empathy. Oh, yeah, no. I was like, I can't believe that Dany's felt like this the past two months. That's inhumane.

It's not fair. The good news about you. Did you see the other post they sent you this morning? About the summer I turned pretty? No. Oh, no. You didn't see it? What is it?

It's all the different types of materials that... Oh, break condoms. Yeah, yeah. I, shoot, I saw it like when I was walking into the coffee shop. Will you read it to me? Well, I just, I thought it was maybe something that should be more like publicly acknowledged and publicly known just for anybody out there trying to prevent. Condom destroyers.

Lubricans you should not use with latex or synthetic rubber connoes. Coconut oil, baby oil, body lotion. butter. Dang. Wait, what about grass fed? Vaseline and body oil. I don't know. I just,

it's interesting. So basically what, what, what? People use butter. So let me ask you this. You know those like crunchy granola moms are like, I only use butter. Really? No, I would assume. If it made it on the list, it's got to be those weird country.

I did have a friend growing up that would just, Take a bite out of a chocolate, like, you know, a butter stick in the fridge. So this is kind of hard. I can't be good for you. And then I know their friend, I can't even say it right now. Yeah. So, so what you've just discovered is very important for people to know. Is that basically all, all lubes?

No, it needs to be water based. So, yeah. Also, I don't know if ours were latex. It was like sheep wool or something. They were just. That was the only thing that made them. There was something to do with sheep. Sheep?

Yeah, it was like sheep skin or sheep. But they're vegan, so they're obviously not sheep skin. Oh, yeah. There was something to do with this brand of comics. I wouldn't make this up. Where would I get, like? They were Lola. That was the brand.

So I don't know what you're talking about. Lola is going to be all over us. They're going to send us a lawsuit. No, I mean, you know what? It's fine. Allegedly. Apparently if you just say the word allegedly before everything, you're saved. That's what TikTok taught me.

They're like allegedly Danny Austin is a man. You know, and it's like now because you say that, it's. Oh, man. Lola condoms. Let's just see. I mean. Is there something sheep in there? No.

No? Okay. I don't know where you get there. No, they're just ultra-tham. latex um with ingredients like natural rubber latex the highest quality lubricant

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made by women women said it right you did it good okay um non-toxic gluten-free uh

Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, they had really nice branding. And the thing is, is like, I think we are to establish the fact that you bit through it. No, I think that what happened is that you were like, get the butter. Oh, my God. You're disgusting. I'm kidding. That never happened. No, but it sounds to me like it's neither of our faults.

It could have just been the fact that we didn't know. know you can't mix oil and water. I never said it was anybody's fault. It's a beautiful thing. We're procreating. Yeah. I feel like last episode played out differently, but maybe. No, we, they did not.

Okay, you're right. You're right. You're right. Anyway, I'm excited now. Okay. Yeah. I believe you. You know, it's funny because can I just talk about something that's really been

bothering me that I found on the internet? It's very random. Okay. And listen, I don't usually like to drag people, but I need help understanding. Do I know about this? Probably not. Okay. But it's, it's in your algorithm because I only am like, like feed fed your algorithm.

Man, you must be getting a lot of my summer, the summer I turned pretty right now. Yeah. It's actually good for me though, because I, it makes me only stay on for like 10 seconds. And I'm like, what's going on here? And then I'm like out. But, oh my gosh. The reels are so funny. There is this guy.

Okay. And I don't know his last. name, y'all will have to help me. His name is Clayton. Eklard. He was like on the bachelor, I think. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's dances. Yes. Okay. So I just, okay. Does anybody ever see in my comments on X defending him? Anybody? Oh, you, you defend him? Oh, this is such a good topic. Oh, like I, this is great. First of all, I probably defend people on X three times. day. Yesterday I went ham on the girl.

No, yesterday I went ham on the girl that got her title taken away. She was like racing in high school and she used like a fire extinguisher to like to, anybody hear about that? No. Okay. So this girl in high school, true story. I can't remember where this was. It's not in Texas.

She won the 400 meter dash. I think she ran like a 52, which is like unreal. Like I set a record in my high school and I ran like a 58. Okay. She's so. fast. Her dad, after she won, her dad handed her a fire extinguisher to like fire extinguish her shoes because she's so fast. Like they're her shoes on fire. Like it was like a funny like celebratory thing. And there's some guy that did that when he won like the Olympics. And so it's like a gesture that like

some famous Olympian did. Anyway, she got her, her like medal taken away from her. Her state championship metal taken away from her because it was like unsportsman like conduct conduct and i went ham i go this girl is fast i was like you guys better give her her metal back this is wrong i said a warning what has sufficed like this is she didn't hurt anyone it wasn't done out of like maliciousness i was like if i would have been racing against that girl and she would have done that i would have thought that was funny and cute not now i understand like it's wrong but like not take her metal away and her dad handed her the fire extinguisher. Anyway, so I get on X and, like, I defend people.

Yeah, Clinton from The Bachelor, like, probably three months ago. Like, he knows, like, I'm all over those. People make fun of him all the time because he's, like, hip hop dancing, and they make fun of him because he looks like, like, whatever. And I'm like, let the man, let the boy dance. Like, he is putting himself out there and makes him so happy. I was like, you do you, boo-boo. I'm so proud of you.

Like, you just keep dancing. Oh, this is so interesting. Okay, can I ask a fundamental question? You're on X or do you mean threads? Like the Instagram version? I'm sorry, I'm on threads more than I am on X, but I'm on both. You have a Twitter? You have an X account?

Yeah, I got more followers than you. Wait, so you comment on X. Yeah, I mean, maybe not so much on X. I think you're talking about threads. I don't really remember, but I'm on both of them. So. Probably, no, you're right. I'm more on threads.

X is a little bit more like mean. So, so anyway, okay, this Clayton guy, he dances on Instagram and he does it all the time. Yeah. And he just posted this video. And listen, when I see it, it actually does create a visceral reaction where I'm like, this is so annoying. His dancing? Yes. Oh, I love it.

And lame. And like, I'm like, what are you doing, dude? Oh, I love it. That is like my visceral reaction. Well, anyway, he posted this video and he, it's like this long dissertation about how he's like, I know that y'all are making fun of me. I know that you're doing this. But he's like, I am just being goofy. I'm expressing myself. And he's like, it's crazy. Like y'all were all rooting for me when I tried something new. And then like,

you know, now you're trying to tear me down when I'm like trying to get good at it. And like, I'm going to keep doing it. And like this says way more about like how you feel about yourself. Yeah. And how I feel about myself. And it really challenged me when he posted this. And I really had to stop and think about it for like 30 minutes because I was that person. I was like, dude, what are you doing? What? Why? It just bothers me. I don't know why. It bothers me so much. What does that say about you? Well, what he said it says about me, and this is where it gets really existential and crazy. I don't know about you guys, but I personally cannot live without caffeine. Every morning, I start my day with a cup of coffee to be able to function as a business owner,

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it says about me is that like, I'm mad at him because he's trying new things and like putting himself out there and trying to learn new things. And it bothers me because I'm like,

you want to be that guy. I should be doing that. And then what really effed me up, this is what really got me. Do you feel that way, though? Well, so like do you wish that you could just be free and like just like post a video of you doing If I'm being honest, a hundred percent. I know.

So you're really just a jealous hater. I'm just a jealous hater. I know. And here's where it gets really crazy is that like he's probably, I think he's older than me. There was a time where I signed up for hip hop classes for hip hop classes. And I realized this when I was hating on him. I was never commenting. I was just being like, this dude's so lame.

like what a loser. And then I watched that video and I was like, oh, wait, like, I did do a hip hop class. And I did want to be that. And I am mad at him because like that is actually what I want to be doing. Now, there's a, it's kind of complicated because if I would have continued with my hip hop class and turned into that, I still think I would have like cringed, you know, and been like Danny. Like, why, why are you letting me post these like dancing videos?

But it was a, it was a really kind of like interesting. moment for me on the internet, but it's more interesting to me that you don't think it's cringe. Because I know who you think are cringe. You tell me every day. I have a list of males that Danny think are cringe. And the list would shock you. It would shock you. But this, this list. And I can't say anything because I don't want to hurt anybody's feeling. Well, listen, I'm not disclosing who it is. There's one person that pops up and this is what Danny says. She goes, I can't stand him. He makes me cringe so much, all he reminds me of is a penis. I said his eyes remind me a penis.

And you say that every time. And I'm shocked that this person is not on that list for you. Like to hear you say, that's so weird. Opposite of cringe to me. Yeah. Why do you support him? Because. Because you also, here's the thing about,

you. You, you, what makes you cringe with males on the internet is you don't like the males on the internet that are so clearly trying to get attention for themselves. Like the males that like really want to be famous and like be like, look at me. And to me, he is the epitome of that. And so it's weird to me that you don't find him to be cringe. I feel like because of what he's doing is ultimately like a little feminine, I respect it. Like if he was posting, like kickboxing videos, I'd be like... That is so strange to me. That makes no sense.

I don't know. I know. It doesn't fit the formula. Because there's a lot, I know, again, I know your list. I really need to reflect on this. I think about this list all the time. Yeah. And all of those males do feminine things that make you cringe because it's like they're

trying to be the stars of the show, you know, on the internet. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I know. No, it's really hard to explain, but maybe I just need to take some time and, like, really reflected and, like, put words to it and, like, put labels to what I'm feeling. I have a theory. Okay.

I think that you don't find him to be cringe. Yeah. Because he reminds you of your childhood best friend. Which one? No, no, no. He knows it. No? Mm-mm.

Oh. That was my favorite. No. What? That makes no. No. So there's just, like, more grace because. No, but he's like jacked. He's like a football player.

Is he, is he a football player? Was he, he's like an ex-football player or baseball player. University of Missouri played football and then he was on the Seattle Seahawks practice squad, I think. That's why I love him. Like it's like, he's like, he's like a football jock and he's like, well, I'm going to learn how to ballet dance. Like, it's like, wasn't, wasn't, aren't there other football players that like take ballet lessons to like help them on the, I was a rumor? No, no, like, I think it's the linemen because it helps them with their best. balance. Yeah, like they're all these, like, double-d-d-d-d-dose. You're on your bad day. Yeah, so, like, I, I love that because it's so against, like, who he is. Like, I just, the guys on line, okay, first of all, I'll just say this blankly. If you talk in a cadence that mimics, like, millennial pastors, it's gonna give me the ick. I'm sorry. That's true. It's just, like, if you talk, if, and I don't care who you are, like, you can be the best person ever. and but like it's just gonna give me the heck it's like it's like it's like but but d'riden like he's being

different like he's finding hope and his expression of dance and that that my man is swaggy like I'm like I'm gonna vomit I'm gonna vomit like just talk like an old person you know and I'm sorry so that's gonna give me the ick um like guys trying to be sexy three trying to be reels. Yeah. I think it's, I like when guys post content and try to look goofy or try to make fun of themselves and it's like goofy.

But when they do reels and they're trying to like be sexy and like kind of give an eye or like, like, like you can tell like when guys are trying to be like. Yeah. Hot in a real. Even though they are like, I'm doing to be funny. But like it's like no, like we know what you're doing. Sure. Like we can see through that or maybe just I can.

Or maybe I'm delusional. But like I don't like that. I don't like that. I like when guys post it. And that's why I feel like Clayton, what he's doing is like so opposite of what a girl would think is attractive, but he's still doing it. Yeah. Like he knows that he's not like that. But I just love it.

It's so sweet. So cute. Like it's like to be seen this big jockey muscular man like trying to do like the same. He's like it's precious. It's precious bow man. Well, this is such an interesting conversation. I didn't know you were out here on threads just defending them. Yeah.

We're a house divided on this issue, but I'm doing a lot of reflecting of why he bothers me so much. And I'll really work on it for Clayton. Yeah, it's okay. Like, you're honestly just an internet hater. Yeah, I know. I know. Anyway, so, um, should we talk about the fact that we know what the gender of our baby is now? Oh, I forgot about that.

Yeah. Yeah. Man, time flies. Well, so first of all, I did this test called the, um, peek-a-go test or peek-a-boo? I can never tell if it's a G or B, but I think it's called the peekaboo test. And it's actually pretty cool. You can take it as long as you're six weeks pregnant.

Also, I do have an Arnold Palmer arriving soon. It is complete from Chop Shop, half lemonade, half unsweet tea. Babe, if you would. Yeah, you want to tell a story? Is it here? Yeah, it's waiting for me outside.

Yeah, I'll go get it. You want to? It's my pregnancy. craving. Yeah, I'll just keep talking about this. Yeah, you keep talking. Okay. So, um, I like never come back. So, yeah, so we did this test called the peekaboo test. And it's actually pretty cool. You can, um, you can do, there's different, two different forms. You can either, like, lance your finger and, you know, prick your finger. I mean, and, uh, you know, get the blood out, whatever, which is like a little bit more work. Because I've done that a few times in the past. And,

like, sometimes my fingers don't bleed enough. So then I'm just like stuck there squeezing the blood. And it's never comes. So I upgraded. I think I spent like $20 extra to get the one that like clips onto your arm. And it's like a 10 minute process, but it pricks your arm and, um, you stick an adhesive on there. And so just like all the blood like flows into a tube and it takes about 10 minutes. Um, and that one was a lot easier because like you press this big red button to prick yourself and it doesn't hurt at all. Um, and so then I, I did the test on sending. I shipped it on Monday. I got my results on Tuesday.

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So the thing is, yeah, you can't have any male DNA around because they're just trying to detect male DNA. So if you accidentally get male DNA in there because your husband administered the test or you didn't wash your hands or some sneezed on you, then you're in trouble. So, but I don't think we don't. I will say he did press the button for me, but I had him cover his hand with your shirt. Yeah. So hopefully that was kept it safe.

Oh, honestly. I mean. Sorry, we're kind of giving away with it. Did you already say? No. Oh. But like, yeah, it's a boy. You ever have another boy where our fourth child is a boy.

So we will be having three boys. And Stella. And Stella. Yeah, but I don't think that that would have changed. the result. Maybe though. But you went through your shirt. Which has my DNA on it. But like how would that have gotten in the blood? Maybe on the button that trickled it into that when can we get the real one? It's a boy. Yeah, you're right. It's a boy. Okay. Yeah, it's bet it's but yeah. So we had a moment, you know. Well, you know, first of all, I've always wanted to tell it to have a sister. I am so

excited now about having Summit have basically a twin. It's going to be so cute. The fact that Summit has like somebody that close in age, it's going to be precious. So I basically have twins, twin boys. Yeah. Which I'm so pumped about. But I will say I was, I'm just going to be honest. I was hoping for a girl at the time. And I did maybe cry a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. But you bounce back really fast. Yeah, no, I just, I think I was just wanting to cry in general. It seemed like that. Yeah.

Because there were a couple times you stopped and then you would like, like kind of want to force more tears out. You always say that about the way I cry. And no. I've never said that about the way you cry. You have said that multiple times. Well, it just seemed like you wanted to cry, which maybe when you do cry, you really want to cry, which is fine. I'm not forcing tears out. No, totally.

That's just the cycle of a girl. crying. You cry and you hysterically let go and then you gather yourself and then you do it again. I absolutely agree with you. I never cried like that? No. I didn't need to. It would be good. Yeah, I remember, you know, yeah, we don't cry that much, boys.

We should cry more. I always feel better after, to be honest. I just feel like I always have to be strong. Wow. Yeah, it's okay. It's a deeper complex probably with men. Yeah, see, I just. I let it out and I was like, I'm just going to wail.

I'm a little whale. And then I'm just saying, I gather myself. And then I'm like, I'm still more whaling to do. It was funny because when you were crying about the gender of our baby, I knew that there was nothing that I could do. But if this was two years ago, like, I would have felt so like responsible for your feelings, like codependent, you know? And I really just kind of sat there, comforted you, didn't feel like I could do anything.

I had to fix it. And you were good after like an hour or two. You were pumped. You were like, okay, like my boys need to be in sports. Like my boys need to be, my boys need to be super competitive. And you were like, I didn't think that. You like went full boy mom pretty quick. No, I was like, you better teach my boys how to hunt and fish.

I was like, you're in luck. I said. I was like, I'm just learning these things myself. And then I was like, and I want you to take up golf because I want them to be able to golf with all their friends. I know. Yeah. I just feel so out of control having boys.

Like, I don't know how to, I don't know how to like teach them things because every, I don't know how to do any of things that those things. I think that moms have to teach boys how to like, you know, understand their emotions, how to process their emotions. Like, you know, how to be respectful. Like, that's dad's jobs too. But like, you know, I think that I've always felt. like you would be a very good boy mom. Like this was not. I am a boy mom.

No, I know. But I, but they're just becoming little humans. They're still young. Yes. But I, I've always thought that you had really good traits as a mom to raise in rear boys. And I think that God doesn't make mistakes.

And I kind of felt like a boy was coming sort of because I feel like, you know, it's been sort of an opposite year. So like anything I thought was going to happen is just kind of like the opposite. I thought this was going to go good. It actually went, but, you know, so I was like, this makes sense to me that it was a boy, but I also think it's exactly how it should be design. The biggest question I have is whether you are actually going to agree to me getting snipped at this point.

I think that you're going to, I think you're, and listen, my body, my choice, like, I'm going to do what I want, but like, like, if I want to get snips, like, I'm going to get snips. This is what I mean. is that I could see now us entertaining more children. I would need a huge, like, three-year break. I know, but that's just with our track record, that's really risky. I know.

But you can reverse the snip, too. I know, but I wouldn't want to do that. That just also seems risky. Yeah. The funny thing about you is you don't like to constrain. your future in any way. I like to just keep the options open. You love the options.

And I knew that my best window to get sniffed was probably your first trimester because you're just feeling so bad. And I knew that the minute that you started feeling good, you were going to be like, let's hold. Let's wait. We just don't know, Jordan. We don't need to make any big decisions. And then the babies, you're going to be like, let's wait until the baby comes.

Something could happen. and then you're going to come and you're going to be like, let's just wait. I don't like to commit or constrain myself to any type of future. And then I swear to you just with like how it happens, like we're, we're going to roll the dice again. And then we will have twins. No, it's just now I think what we do is when we use natural cycles, we just don't on those weekends. Like don't even trust condoms or conscious. You know what I mean?

It's just like those weekends that are red like, you know, You just go. Well, see, now I feel like I'm being constrained by the future. Now, now I'm upset because what you're doing is you're, you're limiting all the possibilities that I want and see. It's like five days a month. You can make it. Okay.

It's fine. We've talked a lot about procreation on this podcast the past couple weeks. Well, it's just kind of what, what we're doing in life right now. Yeah. Um, I did notice like, did you, Stella was a little upset too. Was she? Yeah. Yeah.

She's, she's still learning how to express her emotions, but she's a little upset. You could tell? Yeah, and we've talked about it a couple times. Uh, what'd she say? She's like, I wanted a girl, mommy. That's exactly what she said. Yeah, that sounds like her. And then she's like, um, nobody ever listens to me.

Nobody ever wants to play with me. ever. I'm going to go goodbye forever. It says. It says Disney movies. We've already weaned her off, but she's dramatic. Yeah. We're exclusively Peppa Pig in bluey right now. It's still. Yeah. But the thing is, I did tell her. I was like, Stella, you're the queen now. I was like, you're the only girl. You get all of mommy's handbags,

jewelry, everything. Anytime we go get our nails done, it's always me and you. Like, just me and you. Just me and you. Anything, anything girly is just me and you, like, you get it. And she was like, okay. I like it. That's her too. I was like, you don't have to share with anybody. She's like, oh, it's kind of nice.

Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah, we should talk about when we told our family. Our family still doesn't know about the gender. It's not because, honestly, we just haven't gotten there. Yeah. our life's logistically just a lot right now. Yeah.

And it's like I almost feel like annoying being like we're pregnant again. That's how I felt too. Like I was like and everybody like feels like they have to be like oh my gosh, congratulations. And I was so that's why I just texted everybody. I was like because we've already gotten that attention for the past year like, you know. And so I don't want we have. We both have siblings that don't have children yet too.

And so it's like it's like every time we have to announce it. It's like, okay. Yeah, so I just, I didn't really want to make a big deal of, I just, I don't know, we weren't really in, in the mood. And yeah, I almost felt bad. So yeah, but we did tell our family, we should, you should tell them how we told your mom. So we were pregnant. They don't know the gender, but. So we told my mom, we had Stella and Stratton draw a picture, but we drew it.

And it was like, all five of us, but then there was like a sixth. Am I getting this math right? Yes. Three. Yeah, three. Four or five. Yeah. Yeah.

There was six. And then we like had her give Nini her present for her birthday. Which was a picture that Stella drew. Okay, I drew the stick figures, but Stella colored it. Yes. And it took him a while. Well, and then we went through them and everybody was like labeled underneath. You know, it was like Stella, because there was a baby on the picture, which was Stratton.

And then there was like another baby next to Stratton with a question mark. Yeah. And so, like, Nini's like, oh, my gosh, it's beautiful. And I'm like, Nini, first of all, can you not tell that I drew that? Like, Stella's good a try, but not that good of drawing. I go. And I'm like, there's daddy. There's mommy.

I was like, Stella, explain to her the rest. And Stella, there's Stella. There's Strut. There's Summit. And your mom's like, oh, my God. It's so cute. The whole family. I'm like, yeah, yeah.

But what about that extra one, Tammy? Like, and she looks up at me with those big eyes. freaking out. She was shocked. She was like, guys, what are you doing again? And then a couple minutes later, my dad got what was going on. Yeah, he was like, took him a second. But yeah, no, it's, I think shock is most people's reaction at this point.

Yeah. Just being pure, shook. It was sweet. We told my parents on my mom's birthday. We just gave her a birthday gift of a pregnancy test. I also got her a real gift, but. Um, so that was funny. And yeah.

Then I texted my brother. Yeah. Um, okay, new car. Uh, the car mom has been messaging me. Um, we are going to probably need a new car. I did try to drive your escalade yesterday to smoothies in Sephora with Stella. And, um, I can't. Really? Too big?

I can't drive that thing. Huh. Yeah. So what? What did car mom advise like? I don't know. We need to have like another session. Consultation.

Yeah. Because I'm, what would be between the two? They have like a some car, like smaller SUVs with a third row. They're just not as spacious. Oh, I see. Which is fine. Yeah.

I need to be functional. We're not going to do like the road trips in my car. I honestly would keep my porch kind if I could put a car seat in the front row, but you can't. Mm-mm. Which is so funny because like, I don't remember having a car seat as a kid. I really don't. I don't either. I mean, probably like obviously an infant, but I just remember sitting in the front row of my dad's Cadillac in the middle seat with just a little strap that went over the waist.

Like, and that's what we did. I remember sitting in my dad's lap driving. I want to see when car seats were mandated. Yeah, I mean, I was thinking about taking Stella and strut into like a random parking lot and letting them steer the wheel while I drive, you know? Because like those were like the best moments. I think they're a little young for that. No, but they don't really. That's like seven, eight.

You just started doing that. Oh, really? Not like three. Oh, I mean, I don't know. I feel like I remember my dad taking me to like these random big parking lots and like he would steal the weird, but I would just sit on a. his lap and like we would go five miles an hour and it was like the coolest thing ever isn't that was maybe that's what didn't brittany spears get in trouble that's all she was trying to do she's so misunderstood man poor girl what year were car seats no honestly brittney spires does reference that

in her book she was like i growing up in the 90s i always sat in my parents lap when we drove and then the late 1970s and by 1985 all 50 states have some form of child restraint law in place. Yeah, but to what age? Because now you put a kid in a car seat till like eight. Yeah. No, I'm very pro-car seats, obviously. I want my child to be safe.

But I'm talking about driving like three miles an hour in a parking lot. Booster seats are often required until age eight. There you go. There you go. Man, we're going to have a lot of cars. seats and a lot of diapers. We already do have a lot of car seats and a lot of diapers. I do really like those, I was going to say G-Waggons.

Duh. I really like those Waggeneers. Yeah, the Jeeps. Jeep Waggeneers. Those are gorge. I also really like the Lincoln Navigator, but that's kind of like an escalade. Yeah. Kind of big like that.

I think the Waggeneers are like just as big as escalates too. I think they're like. a little bit more slim. Yeah, I like those waggon mirrors. I like maybe a ranger with a third row. That'd be cool. Ranger with a third row. Yeah.

I'm telling you, like don't sleep on Kia. They're coming out with some... Who has a key? What are you? Don't sleep on them. Yeah, they're great. They're pretty sick.

I don't even really care. Can you just get me one? I just like white with tan interior. Okay. I got you. And I like a big sun really. Your beer face coming up. Oh, yeah.

I got you. No, I would do a manny van. I just don't like the way they drive. You know what I like? Honestly, it just makes me sad. I don't think people like these, but the, so the Volkswagen vans. I've told you about these. Like they redid them.

They're so cool. Uh-huh. What about that? No. They look, they're like, they look like the Scooby-Doo van. Yeah. But they're, they're like cooler than minivans, but like, Not many vans.

It's a really, let's go test drive one. Let's just see. I was a fan of vans until I test drove one. And the way it drove was like it was, it was horrible. Do you remember that? Yeah,

I know, we tried. They don't, like they don't have any pickup speed. Like, I, she likes to race. I'm a big racer when I get to those, especially at night when I pull up to somebody and we make eye contact and

I read my. Yeah, and you're driving. when you see those halos on the lights because of your flawed lasic eye surgery. She's really like I wouldn't let you drive at night. I know and I had to drive at night. I had to drive Brenda and the kids, all three children and Brenda, home from. It's dangerous.

Where did we just go? Tennessee? No. Where did we just go our last family vacation? Oh, Colorado. And I had to drive everyone home at night like that. Like it was like 10 o'clock at night. Brenda, like literally the whole time was like grabbing the window like, like so scared.

And I was like, Brenda, I'm sorry, I can't see anything. I literally can't see. It's the LASIC eye surgery. There's a lot of, um, there's a lot of information coming out about LASIC eye surgery. Not being good. Uh-huh. See, I love it though. I mean, my, my glasses were thick.

I couldn't see nothing. And now I wake up and, I mean, I don't have great eyesight, but I can. Were we dating when you wore glasses? Yeah. Yeah, because I got it. Well, I was living at Mueller in that little 500 square foot. Oh, I remember your glasses, yeah. Uh-huh.

Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't. It got so bad that if I lost my glasses, I was screwed. Like, I was screwed for the day. Or if I couldn't even find my contacts without. I was so blind. And so, yeah, I love it. The halos are totally worth it.

Plus, it's like a great excuse to get out driving. Like, like literally can't see, except for those emergencies. Yeah. But what the nice thing is when I do have to, if I squint really small like this, I can see. So it's okay. Like, if I really have to, I can. It's just very uncomfortable for 45 minutes. So, yeah, we're surviving.

I got the flu. That was fun. It's really weird because I got the flu from Summit because he got an ear infection. And an ear infection causes a cold and a baby. And then the way it transfers into my body is the flu. which is super weird because it's like, the flu, I don't think is a virus.

Wait, sorry, is the flu viral? Sorry, I'm sorry. I'm not a doctor. The flu is viral, but the,

a cold from an ear infection is not. So I think what happens is, I think the flu is just dormant inside of me. It's always on. It's like that light switch is always on. And anything that comes and disrupts it, just turns the switch. It's just like,

yeah. Did you ever watch that movie? osmosis Jones? Yes. I just imagine like a little flu in there. And like osmosis Jones is trying to find it. Yeah. And like the flu keeps getting away.

Yeah. That's sweet. I just have a little osmosis flu living in me. Yeah. It's not good. Yeah. But you haven't gotten it. I mean, we were due.

Yeah. I had it in April last. So it's like every three months. Yeah. Yeah. It's about we were due for it. I'm good. I'm good.

Doctors can't figure it out. I'm a medical mystery. You're a medical mystery to. I need to be funny. Almost every doctor we've seen. Yep, it's true. But blood work is just clean his whistle. It's the weirdest thing.

It's the weirdest thing. I got a great report on my full body scan. What was that? Purdue. Yeah. Yeah. The only thing I got is those ovarian cysts besides that. Good.

Are you about to do function health? Yes, but I'm pregnant. So it's like. Yeah, it's skewed data. Yeah, like what are they going to look at? They're going to be like, Wow, you eat really unhealthy. It's like, I know.

Sorry, I eat a bag of hot chitos a day. Your cholesterol is high. Your cholesterol is spiked. I'm like, yeah, have you seen my nightstand? It's literally every type of hot chito you can get. I get the puffs. I got the extra hot. I got the regular.

I got the hot, spicy ruffles. I got the spicy fritos. It's literally disgusting. But you know what's so weird about, I'm not kidding you? Like, you know, when you brush your teeth, like with it, toothpaste and like you're just like wow I'm like so clean like yeah yeah you know and just like wow everything I just had in my mouth out the gunk like I'm all good like that is how I feel in my stomach when I have hot chitos pregnant it like cleanses my soul my gut I know it's really weird

it's like anything can be going on but when I eat a hot chito it gets in there and it scrubs it yeah their marketing teams for sure listening they're like call Danny awesome right now. This is the sales angle we've been waiting for. I know it's so weird, but if anybody else has pregnancy hot chito cravings, like they know what I mean. It's like the spice gets in there and it's like, it like takes away my tummy aches. Huh. I know. And hot, spicy hot cheetah is the only thing you can do it. Like if you ate a jalapeno. No. No. I'm telling you I am a medical mystery. Like I need to be sent in. Yeah. And you know what really hurts my tummy are smoothies.

You know? It's so weird. Like a protein peanut butter banana smoothie. I'm like, I'm going to vomit that gives me a tummy egg. How do vegetables feel? No good. They're neutral. Neutral.

Neutral. Yeah, I can't. Eggs. I can't really do eggs pregnant, but typically new. Usual stuff. I'm telling you, it's really only hot cheos for me that does it. Huh. I believe you.

And like, and like, maybe. maybe a little bit of lemonade. So yeah. So lemonade is like my, um, sugar and food dyes. Lemonade is like my, um, mouthwash. And hot chitos are like my tooth face. Mm-hmm. I, I'm tracking.

I'm tracking. I'm tracking. Yeah, I was talking about this morning. Like all my, uh, my stories like, like everything makes me nauseous. Like when I, there was this aunt. that was dead in my sink. Did you see it? No,

I didn't see it. Well, when I want to throw up, I think about it. Ice water, ice water. I know, it makes them throw up.

And then there's like also this pillow outside that has like a little bit of like dirt on it. I'll just think about that pillow. Like that one really just gets me going. Like it's, you know, sometimes there's like people. Not you.

Thank God. The people that I pass. And I'm like, I kind of want to throw it. But it's nothing personal. It's not personal. It's like the aura. Yeah, it's first trimester. It's first trimester.

It's just like I don't like that color on you and it makes me a throat. Okay. Yeah. You're probably a great person. But I can't stand due right now. Yeah. Like aprons. I don't know.

Aprons. Like an apron. It's just so nasty. He's like, what is that doing on your body right now? I want to drop. Sorry. Keep going. This is super helpful.

Trust me, other pregnant women are going to watch this and be like, I get it. Because think about when you're at a grocery, like, think about when you're at a restaurant and all the different foods that are gathering on the apron. Like, he's probably wiping ketchup on there and then mayonnaise, and then he's carrying out some shrimp, and then there's some shrimp on there next to the mayonnaise. And he's pulling out the pin. Delivering like a drink with lemons and limes in it. And it's like, that's so wrong.

And you know, you know that our health codes are not saying you have to wash your aprons. You know that he touches his face. He touches his boogers and he wipes it on the apron. It's disgusting. And then he hands you a chip or a check. And a pen. And then you sign it and then you bite your nails.

Or if this is what really. And you just ate his boogers. No, wait. Just think about it. Just think about it. Uh-huh. The condensation on a glass. of water.

He's got all that gunk on his hands. And then the condensation, it mixes with the sweat and the stuff on his hands. Now it's on your cup. It's horrible. This is the psyche that those celebrities go into where they're like, they can't shake hands. And they can't, like, touch anyone. They become what hypochondriacs. Yeah, that's how you get there.

Because you're not wrong. Yeah. But if you obsess over it too much, you end up a bubble boy. Yeah. Yeah. Which you're close. Yeah. I mean, you've been quarantined in that bedroom for, you want to talk about something that's real nasty, though.

Our sheets? Yeah, the sheets. I don't know. I changed them. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. No.

I change them like twice a week these days. And it's not your fault. It's not your fault. Hormones. Totally. Creating night sweats. Oh, is that what you were saying? Oh, I was talking because all the hot cheetos I ate in it.

Yeah. Like, I'll just give you a reference. And this actually happens. So this isn't me accusing of you anything. But Danny's. Danny's sitting at the dining room table this morning eating breakfast and she asked me to go into the bathroom and bring her her deodorant. That was a first in our marriage. Like you literally said, I smell so bad from my sweat that I need you to go to the other room and bring me my deodorant.

Well, I'm sitting with the kids. I didn't want to invest in for a time. Yeah, no, totally. That was just a first for me. Yeah. Donna Karen. Oh, God, we have so much to talk about. Oh, we do.

Okay. We have so much to talk about right now. Okay. We have to talk about things that make you go, hmm. Taylor Swift on the New Heights podcast. Yeah, so I didn't watch all of it, but were her fans impressed by her or did it kind of like ruin some of the mystique? No. It gave us, we got so much information.

It gave us it actually, this was the best thing that happened from this. Okay. So Ellie, y'all know my best friend, Ali. Like she doesn't, she's not really big into pop culture. And, you know, sometimes I really feel like that is a part of our relationship that is lacking. Like I, it makes me sad that we can't talk about these big moments together, especially Taylor Swift. I have, you know, a lot of my good friends are really not huge Taylor Swift fans. Yeah. Allison Hollis is, so she's kind of like my go to. Shawna was never a fan. Remember? Like she never liked. to Taylor Swift, so that was hard. So I've really, when I've been kind of a solo Taylor Swift fan, I usually send it to my team if something like big happens because they like Taylor Swift. And Ellie listened to this podcast. And I would say Ellie probably keeps it, she probably like doles it down or waters it down how much she probably didn't like Taylor Swift to me.

Like I think that she's always like, yeah, like she's fine. But I think that deep down. she really probably didn't like her, you know? And she said, you know, last night I watched the interview instead of watching the summer I turned pretty. And I was like, whoa. And she was like, yeah, I just wanted to be able to digest and like consume Taylor for like an extended period of time to really understand what she was like.

And it basically, I mean, I wouldn't say it turned her into a Taylor Swift fan, but it, she gained so much respect for her. She was like, wow, she's so humble. is filled with so much humility, is so intelligent. I love the relationship. She's so normal. I love the way that she, like,

was so concerned about her parents and worried about her parents staying with her dad in the hospital, like taking turns. Like, she just seems like she has a very good head on her shoulders. And I was like, and then she was like,

and it's crazy, like how smart she has. I was like, this is what we've been trying to tell you. Like, you know, like, she's just everything and so talented. And she was like, I love how much thought goes into everything that she creates.

and something that I thought was like really great about this interview was it showed how much she propped him up and like how much she respected him because there were since it was his brother there were moments that they were trying to like that Jason was trying to pull out or like make fun of Travis you know yeah where and it's just like brotherly love like that's what you do you make fun of him hey like do you know what the word esoteric means do you even know what a contrarian is or like whatever and like Jason's trying to like make fun of Travis and and Taylor'd be like no he's smart like he's smart he's acting like he doesn't but like he knows like she like defended him and like propped him up and just like made him a better person kind of and like I don't know I was it seems so kind like I loved

their relationship so how does she stay so normal she's on on social media she talked about it She's like, I don't do social media really. Like she doesn't do comments. She doesn't do DMs. And something that Ellie pointed out to me, she was like, I love all of her hobbies. Like all of, because Ellie has very like old school hobbies like that. I don't think she's like sewing, but like, you know, baking, like taking care of the home. Taylor loves to sew.

She loves to do like very like traditional hobbies. And Ellie's like that. And she was like, and I think that those type of hobbies keep her so normal. Yeah. Like she loves to bake for people. She loves to create. She loves to close to their parents. Like she was making like I think little bags or like blankets or something for Jason Kelsey's

kids. Like I wouldn't even do that. I'm like girl, when do you have time for that? And she's out here like making albums every other month. Like it's so crazy like on tour. I think it's the time that confuses me the most of like how she has time to do all these things. I don't understand it.

It's like she must get in the studio and just like do everything in the studio in that moment and like create songs. songs like on a, like, it seems like she writes a song in a day. And then she's back and then she writes another song in the next day. Like, I feel like it would take me a year to write two songs. I would kill to know what her team looks like. Like, well, she has over 100 people on her team. A hundred people?

I feel like I know that. I know that. I wasn't supposed to say it, but yeah. Oh, that's right. I remember where we got that information. It was a long time ago. Long time ago, a long time ago. Yeah.

So. Nobody that we talked to consistently. What would they all do, though? She built everything. Remember we talked about this with that guy? She does everything in-house. She built her whole team in house. So they probably, and she said on the podcast, she has ways of knowing what the internet

is interested in. She has probably like a whole analytics team. It's not the internet. It's her audience. It's her fans. Right. But through the internet. Like someone's monitoring all of the conversations happening.

She gets on. And helping her plant these like Easter eggs. No, she stays connected to her fans. Like, do you remember when she was really big on Tumblr? Yeah. She would, like, write things on Tumblr and, like, comment back to people. And I do think she gets on to connect with her fans. I just, like, I think that was one thing from the interview that was so clear was she has this genuine, authentic adoration and respect and love and appreciation for her fans, which so many artists don't have.

Like, you don't see Justin Bieber like that. you don't see Olivia Rodriguez like that. Like you just, and maybe they are, but you don't feel that way. And I feel like Post Malone does a really good job at like truly appreciating his fans. And like they just, they're, they're, the way they carry themselves in the way that they talk about what they do. Like Justin's like, quit pulling me. I'm so annoyed with press. And Taylor's like, oh my gosh, I can't believe that like I get to do what I love because of you guys.

This is insane. I'm so grateful. Like it's a totally different state of mind. but they're both just as famous. Yeah, so true. And it's like you either going to look at it, like you're going to look at it bad or you're going to look at it good. And it seems like Taylor just has a really healthy way of looking at it.

I also think it was funny that she made a joke. She was like, she said something like the press like was probably like, what are we going to talk about, like talking about her relationship with Travis Kelsey? And she like acknowledged that it's like a unique relationship. Yeah, she's so self-aware. They're so different, but I thought it was like, cool. And she did do a really good job of building him up too. Yeah, there were even moments where he was, he was belitting, belittling himself,

like self-deprecating. And she would look at him and go, you're so handsome. And, like, touch his little chin. And it was like so sweet. It was like, she almost was like telling him like, don't speak to yourself like that. Yeah. You know, and the advice that she gave about your energy being like a luxury good and not everyone can afford it.

You know, that was a game changer, I think, for a lot of people. Yeah. It was this girl, I'm like, she's like a walking little Chatsy BT therapy sesh. Like, you know, she's so wise for, she said she's never been to therapy. That was also when she was 30. I read that in her interview that she did. I can't remember who it was for. It was maybe for Vogue when she turned 30.

And she talked about how she's like never done therapy. And I'm like, I think it's because she reads a lot. She's like very into, you know. Man, it's crazy. That was a good interview though. You liked it? Oh, phenomenal. People responded well.

Yeah. I mean, I think it turned a lot. It's really sweet. I think a lot of NFL because she was so self-aware that when she like did the interview, there was like a clip of her being like, yeah, I know that you have a huge male audience. And I know that the one thing that your male audience and all these. sports lovers want to see more of me. Like, you know, and she's like so self-aware.

She's like making fun of herself. Like, it's funny. It's good. And so how can you not like that? I know. How could, like, like, I don't understand what you could watch about that interview and not like about her. Was there anything controversial in that interview?

No. I mean. And then them talking about how like all Travis, like, consumes on the internet is like baby otters. Is that what they said? Yeah. He, like, is obsessed with baby otters. and like otters and he like wants to save an otter.

And like Taylor's like yeah, he's obsessed. Like they all they do is like bake sourdough. She's obsessed with making sourdough bread. And he plays video games. Like she was like when she found out that she got all the rights back to her music, she went to go tell Travis and like ran into the room and he was playing a video game. Like it's so normal. You know?

That is so funny. I know. It's so funny. Yeah. And then the funniest, the craziest part to me is she was like talking about how it was so romantic that Travis Kelsey went on the podcast, his podcast and tried to meet Taylor Swift at one of her shows. And basically the security was like, yeah, not going to happen. Because he didn't do any like pre work to try to set that up. So he was like, I know the elevator girl.

So I thought I could just like get in there and try to meet her. but Taylor doesn't meet anybody before after the shows usually. And so then basically this clip comes out and he was like, yeah, I tried to meet Taylor Swift. Like I, you know, basically saying, I want to date her. And she was like, that was like the most romantic thing ever. Like I'm like, has no one ever just tried to date Taylor Swift publicly? That's all you had to do. That's so strange.

Yeah. She was like, that was like, she was like, this is the type of. gesture or guy I've been writing songs about since I was 16. Maybe this is the one that's going to work out. I think it might because they are kind of opposite. I think she really respects him for who he is and like what he brings to the table. And although he's not this Joe Alwin character where they can have these like super deep intellectual conversations.

I mean, maybe they'll get there. I feel like she respects like. He's like, look at this baby otter. He's like, I like my brother. I think she, like, respects, like, what he brings to the table and all of his friends and camaraderie and energy and positivity. One of the big points that I felt like he kept making was they're both, like, he kept being like she's an athlete. Yeah. And she made the comparison of, like, you know, he calls it a field, I call it a stage, you know, he calls it a locker room.

I call it a green room or whatever. And I think that they probably do bond more over their drive in totally different fields. And I think she probably really appreciates that. Yeah, he was saying like after the show, he got to go back to her like kind of rehab center where she does all of her stretching or she does her like cold plunge, her massages, her stretches. And he was like, it's literally like what an athlete does. Yeah. And he said something.

The one couple clips I saw, he was like, we work out in the gym. And she, like, goes hard in the gym, too. He was like, she works out harder than me in the gym. Yeah. So, I mean, that would, that would keep them together, for sure. Yeah. It's just so sweet. It's just, like, when is this, when is this going to happen again in history?

Are they, like, a, I don't follow the NFL. Are they, like, Super Bowl candidates this year? They're really good. I don't know. That'd be crazy. And if she performs, I could see it. Wait, sorry, did they win last year? No.

The Eagles won, right? Dang. Yeah, they didn't win last year. That would have been epic. No, but if they win this year and she performs. Oh, do you... Interesting. I don't know, I feel like...

She probably would. Do you think she performed this year? Why not? She's not on tour. Maybe this year. She couldn't last year. She couldn't last year. She was on tour.

Yeah. Wow. Guys, like, it would be the biggest rating ever for the NFL. I know you can't stop. You're blushing, just thinking about it. No, I mean, I'm just like, that's crazy. It's just crazy for, like, the NFL.

Like, I want to, I want to know how much they would pay her to do that. It would be so good for. They don't pay people to perform for the Super Bowl. But they honestly should pay Taylor's life. That's the best advertising they could ever do. She's like, like, helped, I guess, I don't know if it's like the valuation or she should bring like over a billion dollars to the NFL. that's crazy man and it's like so oh i loved when they were talking about how it's so sweet like now

you see these dads and daughters like wearing their 87 jerseys together like makes one to cry it's just like so sweet like Taylor thank you for what you've done for us we don't deserve it I'm not worshipping her I'm just saying it's nice the only thing I want to ask you is have you have you Guys, I, my whole algorithm right now is the summer I turn pretty. Oh, yeah, I don't, I don't even know. I have no idea. I've just. Is this the Jeremiah guy?

I, it is so odd to me that there are so many millennial like 35 year old, 40 year old moms. And we are so obsessed with this show about these like, what, 19 year olds? Like it's. And the acting is really bad, yeah? No, not with Conrad and Billy, but. Wait, wait, sorry. Is this the same show with that Gavin kid? Yes.

Okay, got it. But, like, I mean, the way it has to be in a chokehold, I can't stop thinking about anything. Like, honestly, I think I think about it more than the Taylor Swift interview. It's crazy, but I, yeah, I found out why last night. I think the reason why is, like, the way that they produce the show and, like, the, the, I don't know, vibe is, like, the right word. It's all so 90s. Yeah. Like it's, Connie with the 90s hair, it looks like Leonardo DiCaprio, like on the Titanic.

So, and then the way he dresses and even the scene at the, like, it's just all, it's our childhood. The way that she's like biking to go pick up peaches or biking to go to the grocery store, like, I think it's speaking to us and it's like, it's so nostalgic. I think it's nostalgic. And then it's like the type of love that we grew up with in the 90s. I'm trying to see what it has on rotten tomatoes. No, I know it's not good. It's just...

It's 64%. I know. I'm telling you like it's... I am shocked at myself. Yeah. But oh my gosh. The bathroom scene. I can't.

What's the bathroom scene? I mean, I've washed it over and over. And the way they got that water dripping from his hair across the state. I can't even. So it's like for millennial females, it, you have to watch the reels. And it's like, I kind of thought it was like just me at first. And I'm like, kind of embarrassed that I'm like, I'm in my bed.

Like, oh my God. It's like your little girl again. You're like, oh. And it's the way I felt when I went to my first Jonas Brothers concert. Huh. Yeah, you're just like, oh my God. Like, they're going to pick me and we're going to get married. Like they're going to be like, you, that girl.

like the very last row, you know, and you're just like so, oh my God, I can't believe it's happening. It's so weird. Interesting. How it's, this is, this is happening to all millennials. Everyone. Every female. Yeah, it's not just me. Yeah, it's just feeling this. It's so funny. Interesting. The community is, oh, it's crazy. He's talking about which team are you. Oh, I'm Conrad. Conrad's the blonde or the, they're both kind of blonde, but yeah, yeah. He's the better. He's the best. better actor. So not Gavin. Chris Briney, I think is his name. What's Gavin's name? Jeremiah. Got it. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I mean, that's all I got to say about that. It's so weird. It's weird.

I have to show you some of these clips. Yeah, I can't wait to watch them. I'll get a new haircut and everything. I've already thought about it. I've already thought about messing up his hair and doing a middle part. Okay, bye. Okay, love you all. Bye. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.