De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan - Why Moving to Nashville Changed Everything
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De-influenced.
It looks like our living room, but there's a crowd now.
There's a crowd.
We're at like a production studio.
Well, we had to take, okay, so first of all, we're in Nashville.
Spirit fingers.
So it's crazy.
We have always podcasted out of our own house.
and now we actually have to rent a studio at Nashville,
which is so fun because we get out of the house more, you know?
Like I had to put on like a bra, like I had to put on clothes.
I even did a little makeup.
So this is really better for us,
but we do have a crowd now.
It's not a crowd.
It's people that work at this studio.
And then there's two more six, seven.
This is how Theo Vaughn does his.
Really?
All the big comedians, I feel like have big teams.
It's so funny because when you watch it,
like you feel like it's so intimate, like no one's there.
I agree.
think we can get used to this, but it did tell me that I would never want to do a live show.
But never say never. No, because you never tried it.
I'm just telling you, I'm going to be cool with these eight people eventually, but I would never
want to do it on a stage. It's kind of a weird environment to do on a stage. It would be odd.
Like when Theo did Mike Tyson, but there was like a giant crowd. Yeah. Because if if something
goes wrong or if there's an awkward moment, you're not just thinking about
the clip that comes out, you're thinking about like everyone's live reaction to.
It's a lot of pressure.
But that's why it's so good.
Yeah, no.
And we have to do this because we don't have any space.
Yeah.
For our own studio.
Yeah.
But yeah, I mean, I realize being in Nashville that what, so we've had like four couples come up to us.
Men have come up to me and been like.
Oh, this is so true.
And been like, hey man, love the podcast.
And I go, no, you don't.
I was like, you're not the demo.
You're like your wife set you over here.
I go, your wife sent you.
you over here. Danny's over there. You can go meet her. And I've realized that people who listen to this
podcast are like husband and wife couples. I never knew that. It makes me feel so weird to know that like
a man is listening to me. But no, what happens is it's like it's like the toast where you listen
to the toast and then you make me listen to the toast. It's like that thing. But apparently
I think a lot of what we talk about and fight about and bicker about on this podcast is very
relatable to other couples. And I never thought about it.
that I just thought we were talking about talking to your audience about pop culture stuff
and I was just here because you didn't want to do it alone.
Totally.
But now I'm realizing it's like we're bringing marriages together.
Together, babe, we are so relatable.
We're so relatable.
Yeah, I don't know about that.
Well, how are you feeling about Nashville?
I love it.
You're getting a lot of feedback that you look the happiest you've ever been.
most at peace you've ever been. Danny has a theory that it's just because she's wearing her curly
hair. When I wear my curly hair, people are like, God, there's something about you. That's so different.
You just look so happy. And I think it's the curly hair. But I am genuinely happy. And I'm like,
this is the best decision we ever made. But it, there is like this correlation to like curly hair.
You want to know the moment that we realized we were supposed to be here? Oh, God, there's so many.
Okay, I'll tell you. Most of them are not good moments.
I'll tell you. So it's, we moved here on July 3rd. And so we get invited to a party on July 4th.
Okay. The Independence Day. Yes. The 250th birthday of America. So this is a big one. Go USA. Go USA. And so we get invited to like deep south, Tennessee, past Nashville, Franklin.
It's like not that deep. No, it is.
literally 20 minutes from here.
I know, but it is.
It's not Nashville.
It's like Nashville,
Franken Leepers Thompson Station.
Okay,
yeah,
yeah.
So we go to Thompson Station.
Don't know anyone.
Our friend Jefferson,
Bethke,
invited us.
And we go to this party and we're mainly the ones with younger kids.
It's a lot of like adults.
There's a lot of college.
It's like an older family that they have,
they have kids in college.
So one of them plays,
like college basketball.
So he had a lot of his.
his friends that were like six five college students there.
Yes.
So we were like the like I was like wait like are we friends with the college students or the parents like I don't know.
But let me just set this stage.
So Nashville's beautiful.
It's very it's very different than what we're used to.
It's hilly.
It's very green.
It's very lush.
So we're like driving deep into the country and we turn on this road and on this road.
And on this road there's only three houses and they're on about like five to seven acres each.
it's completely lush green, perfectly manicured yard.
White picket fence.
White picket fences.
Sun is setting so it's like dusk.
You see fireworks going off in the background.
Horses back in the farm.
So it's like the most like heavenly environment.
So we get out of the car.
There's probably like a hundred people.
There's a hundred people.
They're all oddly good looking.
Yeah, I was like, what is this?
Like what's in the water?
No, it was giving Mormon.
It was giving.
It was giving.
It was giving such Mormon.
You're so right.
Like good.
looking people so down to earth. So like, oh, my gosh, your kids are so cute. One of the college students
come up to me. He's like, he's what? He's probably like 18 years old. He's like, man,
your kids are so cute. You knocked it out in like five years. You have four kids in five years.
That's like, good job, girlfriend. Like you're like, you're like, thank you. I'm like, who is this
person? So that's not even the best part. So random part of this story is back when I was a kid
growing up. My dad would always take us to Chicago Cubs games. I don't even think you know this part of the
story. And back in the day, there was this famous Chicago Cubs pitcher named Carrie Wood's, I think with an S or just one.
And Jefferson introduced me to this guy. And he's like, hey, this is my friend Carrie. And he's like,
and I'm like, oh, hey, Carrie. My name's Jordan. And I don't know anything. Like I don't connect the dots.
and he's like, you might have grown up watching Carrie play for the Chicago Cubs.
And I was like, I didn't fanboy, but I was like, oh my gosh, my dad and my brother would freak out that he was there.
Like, I was so excited to meet him.
But anyway, the best part of the party, this is how we knew we were supposed to be in Nashville.
They stopped the party.
Okay.
And they say, hey, everyone gather around.
And the owner of this house gathers 100 people around him.
Students, kids.
Complete silence.
All the kids looking.
and he says, guys, we're going to read the Declaration of Independence.
And he read the entire Declaration of Independence.
And fireworks were going off in the background.
And Danny and I looked at each other and we were like, this is the America we want to be in.
This is the best decision ever.
We did say that.
And no, he prayed over our country.
He prayed over our country.
He read the Declaration of Independence.
he had a lot to say about King George.
Yep.
He was not a fan.
He was not a fan of King George, which I don't blame him.
No taxation without representation.
The Stamp Act.
Yeah, he went over it all.
He went over it all.
But let me tell you.
This is a good reminder.
I always forget that.
No, because.
I always figure out about George.
People get caught up in the fireworks.
They get caught up in the hot dogs.
They get caught up.
In the Brought Wars.
What's it really all about, babe?
It was about the founding of America.
It's about freedom.
And I felt so grounded and present in America at that party.
You are saying.
Getting like hyped up to seeing it about it.
No, I know.
I need to go to Gap and buy a T-shirt says USA right now.
Right.
Exactly.
No, it was a phenomenal party.
It was a phenomenal party.
We met some cool families.
The only thing is they do live a little bit further out, but I exchange some numbers.
Yeah, no.
You don't be like, I give anybody my number.
She does.
Anytime I meet anybody, like, if you're, now if I don't give you my number, you're
You ever text those three? You're probably a little weird because I give it to everyone. And like, because I genuinely want to be friends like with everyone. But like I do, but I don't. Like I want to be your friend and like I think about it and I like have these visions and I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to give my number. We're going to go to the park and we're going to. It never really happens. But I was going to want it. But it just doesn't happen. Did you text the three moms? Okay. So here's a funny story actually. The one of the ones that I did give my number. Here's the other thing. If we exchange numbers, I'm not calling you. You can call me. And you. And. You can call me. And. And. You. You can. You. You can. And. You. You. You. You.
It's not because it's just, I like to be pursued.
Okay.
And I feel very uncomfortable when I put myself out there.
And I'm just, just call me.
And I will, if you invite me one place, then I'll invite you back.
Like, I'm very, very, like, different chat.
Like, we'll reciprocate.
Like, you scratch my back.
I'll scratch yours.
Like, trust me.
Like, you won't be the only one calling me.
But, but no, so someone did.
They did follow up.
And they invited me to a Bible study with, I can't remember.
I think it's her.
I think her name's Lisa Beavis.
Oh, no, you got to go to that.
No.
Do you know who John Bevere is?
Okay.
I'm supposed to meet him soon.
Okay.
Well, you have to meet him because this book, he wrote this book.
I want to say, I was probably, I don't know why.
Like the year like, oh, wait, is standing out to me.
Okay.
Like, maybe Google when this book was written.
Somebody, one of you eight people watching this.
Can somebody Google this?
Which one of you guys got a computer?
John Bevere rescued.
Okay.
So I, like, was like,
became like a Christian like you know like a Christian like well dude but I was like what does that
mean you know and I thought I knew what I mean I read this book when I was in high school maybe middle
school changed my life it's about a a pastor that um goes to hell it's so scary but John Bevere
wrote that book and it like actually changed my life because I always knew like what like being a
Christian was, but then, like, I read this book and I was like, oh, wait, like, like,
there's like God's word and like he writes it so that we can like follow it.
Like it was like just this whole thing.
Anyway, kind of changed my life.
What's it called?
Rescued by John Bevere.
Rescued.
There's like a hand and it looks like he's maybe like coming up from hell.
You better be careful.
We're about to become Christian influencers.
No, I'm not.
October 2006.
We're going to stay out of that space.
Oh, yeah.
Christian influencers get the worst hate.
I am an influencer.
Who is it Christian?
No, for sure.
That's always been our brand.
No, wait.
But we got to be careful because if we start creeping into the Christian influencer space, that hate is fiery.
They get worse hate than anyone.
No, anyone.
Because they go for the jugular like your soul.
No, they do.
Like your heart.
They do.
Like your character.
Yeah.
Like who you are as a person.
Like, people just are like, you're ugly and fat.
I don't like you.
And I'm like, you know what?
I probably am.
I don't think I look great today either.
But when they go for like me, it hurts.
Right.
No.
Ginny and Caleb get it on the chin.
Yeah, but good for them.
Like she was made for that.
Some of us were like, you know, some of us started so early on.
You know, we've just been through it.
We've been through the ringer so many times that it takes a lot to take us down.
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skewed, which is about...
Oh, it's all I had to say.
But I got invited to his wife's Bible study.
Oh, are you going to go?
That's what's so funny about, you know, Nashville.
Everybody's somebody, but I don't even know who you are.
But I, like, happen to know who this person is.
But, like, I don't really know a lot about, like, the Christian ministry spaces,
like, like famous pastors, famous authors.
But it's like everybody is somebody here, like an ex-baseball player or some big designer.
So it's like everybody's so.
talented.
But it's like everyone here also is so down to earth that it's like they don't come here with
that mask on.
Did you see Justin Baldoni moved here?
No, yeah, he should.
He should have moved here.
But you know what?
Okay, I have a theory and I just thought about this is why.
Okay.
So Justin Baldoni, he just came out with like a statement with him and his wife.
Did you see it?
Well, no, but I saw you were like DMing with him.
Oh, yeah.
I'm like justice for Baldoni.
So, yeah, so they came out with this statement, him and his wife. And basically we're just like, we haven't been able to talk for so long. And now, like, we're finally getting over the hump of all these legal struggles, legal battles. Like, thank you so much for everyone that supported us. And yes, I did comment on it. Heart, heart. And, but I saw, you know, he had moved from L.A. to Franklin. Okay. Idea. I think it's because, and I don't think he's like a conservative or anything. But Candice Owens is the.
reason, like one of the biggest reasons why everybody backed him, like, and went like so 100%
full throttle because she covered the case. Yeah. Candice Owens lives in Nashville. I think they got like
literally kicked out of L.A. You think so? I think like he like didn't feel comfortable in L.A.
Like all these celebrities, Hollywood, you know, and it became so like, it was just confused.
And so I think that he was inspired by all the people that supported him, like whether they were in Texas,
Tennessee, whatever. And they were all in Tennessee, I think. And so he moved out to Nashville because it's the closest thing to LA.
So Nashville is kind of like will limit me LA. No, that's what I'm saying. But I feel like it's, it's, it's L.A. in the sense of who lives here. And there's a lot of like celebrities and musicians. But I think it's, I think people like it's all the benefits of L.A. without the curses of it. Like people aren't fake here. Like you can kind of come here and take off your mask and like just be you.
Lives here for six days. We know everything about Nashville.
No, I'm just saying I actually had a conversation with the lady in the coffee shop today.
She was from L.A.
And she had a golden retriever and I pet her golden shrieve and then I was talking to her about this.
And she was like, yes.
Everybody lets you pet their dogs here.
It's like so nice.
It's like, she was saying she was from L.A.
And she was saying, you know, in L.A., you know, you kind of want the hustle and bustle of being around really creative, interesting people.
But it comes with this kind of superficiality.
And she was like what most people from New York and L.A.
realize about it here is you're able to get both of those things just at a nicer like pace with
stronger values.
Okay.
I have to tell you.
Wait, really?
Just slap it.
Yeah, you got it.
It was just a little fly.
Okay.
Oh my God.
I got it.
It was a little tiny one.
I'm so sorry.
No, it's okay.
Oh, no, just keep it.
That's the best part.
No, it was like a little gnat.
No, it's okay.
It's okay.
I'm sorry.
I didn't hurt you.
No, you for sure.
I couldn't focus.
It's also a lot of wild.
life in Nashville.
It was just like, especially in the video.
Oh, we had a furry caterpillar on our door.
That was really interesting.
Poisonous.
Well, I wouldn't have known.
It looks so friendly and furry.
I just wanted to touch it.
But something in my gut told me not to.
And thank God I didn't.
I wouldn't be here today.
So I do feel like it is, what do you think is different?
Just being here six days.
What do you feel is different?
Because you can blame it on your curly hair, but I have read the DMs.
And I actually agree that.
you, and you've even sat and told me, you've been like, I feel so much more at peace. Like,
you, you've said like, man, I'm so happy. You know, what do you think is different about your
life here? Or did we just need a hard reset in our life in general? I think it's a little bit of both,
you know, I think like, I think having a reset anywhere is, is actually, you know, people always say,
you know, when you move, like, what's the saying that always say, like, their palms are going to
follow you. Yeah, everyone kept telling you that.
They're like, you know, if you have problems in Dallas, you're going to have problems in Nashville.
I'm like, no.
I know.
I kind of feel like y'all were wrong.
I do feel like there is something to say about a fresh start.
And like just like picking up your family, fresh start, different mindset, saying we're going to do this, this and this differently.
And like starting off on the right foot, I think is is actually like kind of life changing for us.
Like we were like, and I think it was so hard for us to break some of like our old routines in Dallas, whether it,
was like, you know, the structure of like how many after school activities our kids were in.
All of that was just so hard to break. And then you have all these people like relying on you all
the time. And so picking up your family, moving Nashville and be like, this is what we're going
to prioritize. This is what our day is going to look like. It's just been, I just feel like I'm
like back in control as a mom. And I feel like I let go of so much control with my kids,
especially because I was like, I want to work and I want to do this and I want to do that. And so
it was really hard for me to balance everything so I kind of outsourced so much and you know I took that like two months off which really did help set back like put you back on like the right foot but it was still like not enough and then I think culturally it's just like yeah people like love like families here and they love um I think that like you're really um people just like like you're really um people just like like you're really um like you're like you're like you're like like you're like what family did you come from or what neighborhood or what zip
and that's just culturally like how it is,
which is fine because you can find good people anywhere,
but I do feel like it's like a little bit easier here.
I will say it's like very rare to meet someone like in the people that we've met
like that's actually from Nashville.
So I feel like it's kind of like a melting pot of like a lot of different cultures
and everybody comes together but they're like want something similar,
which is like I would say a lot of like just family time.
And it's like bring your kids over.
Don't hire a nanny.
We'll help.
Like we went to dinner and we went with like our four kids.
And I'm not going to.
lie like I'm scared to take my four kids into somebody else's house like it's it's really
anywhere it's really scary like I was actually really like I sat Jordan down before we went to this
dinner and I was like hey like and I don't know why I'm like this maybe just the way I was raised
like I am so scared to be like a bad guest like I always want to like clean up after myself or
I'm so scared to like break something like I just want to go into someone's house and like respect it and
then they will always invite me back because I've also been on the other end of it where like someone
comes over and it's like you just feel like they don't like respect your space and whatever so like I
told but it's really hard to do that when you have four small children like Stella's five stratton's four
he's really into swords right now which can be very scary because you like don't know if there's
a base around like it could be grown on their face foam swords no it's a plastic sword fame well I was
not real swords oh yeah not obviously not real swords he's four um and then we have summit who's like
becoming very mischievous he's 16 months now 15 months and like
Like that's scary.
And then newborn who just literally needs all of your attention.
And so whoever's holding the newborn is out of commission.
Out of commission.
So I'm like, so whenever we go to it and it's like this beautiful house and you know,
I tell Jordan, I'm like when we go, before we go, I'm like, hey, we need to sit down.
Like we need to talk about like how you and I are going to like act at this house.
I was like if I like we cannot leave each other side because like if I'm going to need a bottle,
I'm going to need help or you know.
So we just sat down because I was like also the worst thing is whenever you're a couple
and you fight in front of somebody else at their house.
I'm a drifter too.
When we go to someone's house, I'm gone.
He's gone.
I'm working the whole room.
No, he works the whole room.
This is actually a big thing for us like when we first started dating slash got married.
We go to a wedding.
Yeah.
And Jordan like wouldn't he would just buy like, bye.
And I'd be like, hey, I don't know.
It happens slowly.
It, I get dragged in.
And then I'm like, I got to go talk to this person.
But then he never like would be like, honey, you want to drink or like, are you okay?
I was not good at that.
And like, I'm like, so we would have like a.
a lot of time. So, which is fine whenever you're one on one, but whenever you have kids and like your
husband leaves and you have four running around like possibly breaking people's stuff at their house.
Like I am not well. And so, but no, we had, it was so great because we pulled up, they have seven kids.
Okay. The 10 year old immediate is like, Stella, you want to come play with me? This is the kids table.
This is where we're going to sit. The 17 year old is like, oh my gosh, I love babies. Can I hold him?
Can I feed him? Can I put him down? Can I burp him? Like, everybody was like taking my children and taking
care of them and I was like this has never happened to me before like no one has ever I've never
walked into someone's house and initially and like just immediately I feel like I'm part of their
family like I swear they would have like disciplined one of my kids if they had to like they were
they were amazing though they were amazing and um they were so like accommodating and like had
thought about like oh we got all the toys out for your kids like it was just so like kid friendly
family yeah oriented that um I do feel like that's just like it's that you can find that everywhere
but it's like really like
magnified here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then like I don't know
it's like pretty.
So you just kind of sometimes
want to stop and smell the flowers.
Or I guess the grass.
They have a lot of grass here.
It's really nice grass.
Yeah.
Do you not get community disciplined growing up?
Whatever mom was there,
we got that one.
What is that mean?
If you're like,
you're like I even think my kids
someone would discipline my kids
if they needed to.
Oh.
Oh,
she's like you're saying like whatever mom was in charge
at the time.
I honestly think that
just culturally speaking,
we would take our kids to some of our friends' houses, but we also had like three when they had
their first, right? So we had way more kids that were young. So we brought a lot more chaos to
like our friend group than they were probably used to at the time. But that's like what you were
saying. It's like a no-brainer. It's like if you're invited somewhere, your kids all go. And that's like,
it's like more culturally ingrained that like kids are involved in everything here, whereas like a lot of,
I feel like the things that we do. You can tell because of.
of the type of grocery carts they have at Target.
You know, do you ever notice that ours,
our target only had two of those grocery carts
that had like where the kids could sit in the back,
but this target we went to, they were like 15.
I know, hold on.
I mean, it's like even the targets are more like family, kid,
kid friendly.
Yeah.
They're telling you.
All the men's room have changing tables.
Nah.
No, true.
Nah.
When Summit had that issue.
You're kidding.
They didn't have that in Dallas.
I didn't even wait till the family one went straight to the mids room.
Okay, now that's saying something.
Y'all got to move here.
I'm telling you, it's crazy.
But that's the thing is, like, I don't want to hype it up to where,
because it does have this, like, small town feel.
Yeah, we don't want you here.
No, like, I feel like, that's what people would say to you whenever we were, like,
we're thinking about New Nashville.
Babe, people hate that I'm here.
People that don't even live here, hate that.
No one hates that you're here.
Oh, Jordan.
Oh, my gosh.
I mean, probably the minority of people hate that you're here.
like the OG Nashville, people like that lady who was mad that...
She was so mad.
Do we ever tell this story?
No, because I was like, I don't want to share something negative right now.
I'm just too happy.
Yeah.
But like people are there's like people that.
Someone basically got mad that we bought our new house because they said that they accused us.
Oh, no.
Oh, you're talking about that girl.
No, we did talk a little bit about that.
Yeah, we talked about that.
We'll be cool.
We'd be cool.
I've been a good neighbor.
I've only done like one outrageous stunt since we've been here.
What'd you do?
I just stood on my car.
It was like not that crazy.
Oh, yeah.
because you got the, you got my new van.
It's awesome.
It's awesome.
I got a Volkswagen ID bus, buzz, buzz.
Yeah.
I took it to Planet Fitness and even the gym bros were like this, they were like, bro, this thing is cool.
It's like.
They like got out of their Tesla and we're commenting on our VW van.
So I do have, you know, it's so cool, but I do have a couple of criticisms just just for anyone that's like interested in the car.
You know, I do want you to know like that.
Volkswagen CEO listening.
Yeah.
And so that, well, I'm scared to share this because I will.
love for you guys to sponsor me, but maybe you can sponsor me after you fix these issues.
Okay. It doesn't have cup holders in the second row. True. It does in the third row. No cup holders
in the second row, a van for kids and family. What are you thinking? Yeah. What are you thinking?
I mean, come on. Like, that's just like. They do offer them, but it's additional.
It's $100 additional and they clip onto the sides. But I just, I, that is so wrong to me. Okay. And I,
something that I honestly thought I didn't even have to have to check for like I was like why it's like
why would I even check that and it's like they don't have it so that's kind of annoying I did I'm trying to
order them but it actually is kind of hard to order them um if you do it from the Volkswagen site like
you can't no it it was hard to find this one no yeah it's so like so if you have a problem with it
like apparently they don't replace windshield wipers a lot of people told me that yeah there's
there's some weird things about this car um uh it is a lexie
So you do need to you can buy the like converter to charge it like with a Tesla supercharger.
That's good. But you have to buy it. It also has no like covered storage like all it's almost like okay. So like in your kitchen if you ever have like exposed shelves like you guys know if you have an exposed shelf in your house in your kitchen you have to keep it looking nice. Right. Because like if you have cabinets, you can just stuff your crap in there and just shut the cabinets. Well all of the storage in this car is exposed.
Except for the, what do you call that thing?
Glove compartment.
Where you could sometimes store, you know, like, besides that,
everything exposed.
So that's kind of annoying because that means you have to keep your car like somewhat looking tidy.
Yeah.
Also, it doesn't have great trunk space, like for groceries.
Now you can put that like third row down, like, you know, back how we used to do in the 90s.
Right.
Actually, you know what's so funny.
Back in the 90s, when my mom drove a red, big, big.
expedition.
The only way you could like,
like have,
we would have to take the seats out.
Did you ever have to do that?
Like we couldn't fold the seats down.
Oh, those were like very old.
Yeah. And so like when my mom wanted to like like take something across town,
we had to actually like I'm telling you the entire seat had to come out.
It was like a thing.
I remember that.
Yeah, it was a track.
So at least these do fold down.
But yeah, there's like, but you know, to me it's like I don't know if this is
normal.
But when Stratton was sitting in the third row, you can't see them.
Oh, that's probably a really bad.
They're kind of like, they're kind of raised.
Like the seats in the back are raised.
Yeah, you can't really see your children.
Like there could be a child back there and like you might.
It's the third row.
Yeah.
They're gone.
Like if they're back there, it's.
Yeah.
No one knows what's going on back there.
Yeah.
So, you know, maybe it's not very popular because they're perfecting it still.
They are V2.
V2.
Yes.
But besides all those things, it's a great car.
It looks great.
Yeah, it's cool.
We also got a golf cart.
Oh, no.
Now, the amount of times I got stopped this morning with this golf cart, like I had a man walk off his porch.
We went from having like no interesting cars and having the best cars.
This man walked off his porch, stood in the middle of the road, waved me down and go, hey, I'm Steve.
He goes, you got to tell me about this thing.
That's why I love people here because they just, you just meet people on the street.
Yeah, no, no.
I was like, here's my wife's number, but you have to pursue her.
Or else we'll never hang out.
Call me Steve.
No, but he was like, yeah, there used to be a big golf cart community.
Oh, what happened?
All the kids got older.
And then he was like, but we've been trying to get a resurgence going.
He was like, I feel like this golf cart here is the ticket because it has a table in the back.
He's like, you're like Steve.
Like, God told me.
I was supposed to say.
I'm here to help you.
Like, I'm here to help you.
This is the club car crew.
And it is amazing.
I literally got out.
We were walking around like I was showing off my ride.
T-shirt, like your sticker?
No, it's awesome.
It's awesome.
Yeah, so we moved here and then we got a new car.
And then we're living in a temporary home.
In a temporary home.
In a really cool area of Nashville.
Yes.
Should we say it?
Yeah.
I don't think people like, the thing about me is like people don't want to stalk me.
No, no.
And I get a little offended about it because I don't understand still why so many other
influences have stalkers, but not me.
That is it about me that people don't want to stalk.
Devin, Devin and Janelle back in Dallas had like a really bad stalker, like showed up to
the door.
And Danny goes, that's so sad, but like also like, why if I never had a stalker?
What?
It's like the meme where you get kidnapped.
It's like the girl that leans between the seats and she's like, so why'd you pick me?
Yeah.
So what was it?
But then like, but then Danny gets a stalker and then she's like, this is the worst thing in the world.
And then it gets quiet.
No, I wouldn't know because I've never had one.
It gets quiet in our lives.
And then she's like, she's like, why is no one hating me right now?
Am I irrelevant?
Yeah.
It's horrible to love-hate relationship.
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Oh, we've like, we, I think what set it off was the 4th of July.
We've been really into, back into history.
Yeah.
But wait, sorry.
We're living in a temporary home.
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
And we thought it was going to be for like two months.
Oh, you did.
I'm not that naive.
I thought we were going to be moving into this for two months.
We hired a designer and like Jordan's like so we'll be in the house in like two months.
I'm like, yeah, sure, babe.
I'm like, let's just get there.
She goes, we're going to try and get you in before Christmas and I was like, oh no.
Jordan's jaw hit the floor.
I was like, yeah.
Yeah, I mean.
It takes a while to order furniture.
And the house is not even built yet, like completely done yet.
That's true.
It's true.
You know, I spent all morning looking at different types of edges on countertops.
It was so fascinating.
That's another part of Danny's journey that's going to unfold soon is she wants to build homes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's already contacted a couple designers.
You almost bought that investment property.
It was Cheryl Crow's.
Cheryl Crow's old home.
I did.
It was for sale on Facebook and I was like, I got to have that.
This would have been a piece of work.
I'm so, like, this is how we know God is real.
It's because we didn't get the house.
And if we would have gotten that house, it would have been a lot of work.
Yeah.
And my, but it was cool.
My fear is, uh, beautiful home.
You love the excitement of the start.
You know, like, like, I'm going to start this project.
But then I feel like it was like, once, you know, the going gets rough, I feel like,
I'm going to be like, I'm over.
I'm going to hire somebody else to those.
I'm going to pick.
Oh, thank goodness.
That didn't work out.
Yeah, that didn't work.
out. But no, so we're living in an adorable home. We love it. I actually feel like we're going to be
sad to leave. You know why? You know what I noticed about some homes that just make it so
homey? Yeah. Crown molding. When houses have that like woodwork, that trim, you just feel
at home. And you know, we've never lived in a house like that because all our houses have always been
so modern. Is there crown molding in this one? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
It's the little things that you don't notice.
Yeah, no, I don't.
It's along the ceiling, the floorboards.
You also had a theory on setbacks.
I forgot what that meant.
Well, you said it felt.
So Jordan's like, why do we feel so like at peace here?
And I was like, it's because our house is set back off of the street.
And we've always had a house that's like right off of the street.
And so when our kids like would exit the front door immediately like, oh my gosh, someone's
going to take them or they're going to go in the middle of the street, get hit.
whatever. Like so you just, this level of stress that you carry on a daily basis when you have
a house that's right off of the street. It's like you don't even notice it. But now our house that
we live in is set off of the street. So like your kid could have like a five, probably 10 second
head start and you still feel peace because you're like they're not going to hit the street until like,
you know. Yeah. And so it's like you just you feel better. You it's it's almost like,
what do they say, feng shui? Uh-huh. You know, it's like, it's like the difference of, I don't
know if anybody sleeps like this and maybe if you if you don't you should change but like your husband
should always be sleeping closer to the door good point because it makes a woman feel safer because if
somebody comes into your bedroom then your husband's kind of the first that goes she was dead serious
when she said that too I don't realize but no I meant he's going to protect you for sure
It's a classic survival instinct.
I'm sorry, my mom really raised me like this.
My mom would make us, I've talked about this,
my mom would take us to the grocery store.
We'd all have to wait in a separate line to see you again.
No, it carried in our marriage.
Like, I feel like on the way to on our honeymoon,
like our first fight was that I just wanted to like board in C group because we all have assigned seats.
I was like, babe, do you realize then you might not.
be able to put your luggage right above your seat.
That means when you get up and you have to get something, you might have to walk four feet.
Can you imagine?
That would be horrible.
Get your act together and let's get on this dang plane.
It's like you really like twisted my nervous system just into like this like fight mode.
Honestly, it taught me a lot though.
I feel like I'm a better survivor after being married to you.
No, really.
No, truly.
No, and sometimes like you actually forgot about stuff more than I do now.
I know. Like you're more high-strung about. No, I'm trying to like retrain my my nervous system to chill. I know same. Well, well. So wait, what did you choose in terms of the countertops? Well, it's so annoying because every time I like something, it's too expensive. And so I always text in and they're like, we don't have that in the budget. And then I'm like, but I fell in love with it already. I'm like, I can't change it. It's like I can't change what I love.
Yeah, for sure. It's like if I would have met you.
And then they're like, you can't have that.
You have to go for the shorter one.
I'd be like, I can't.
I can't.
I already love him.
And so,
so the budget just keeps on increasing.
I've noticed that.
I know.
Every time I get the budget, it's like so much more.
I don't know.
She can't stop.
I can't stop.
And then I'm just like, I'm like, you know,
thank goodness they're all like wire transfers.
Because if this was cash, I was handing out, ew, I would have a panic attack.
I feel like I need to have a garage sale.
Because it's all so expensive.
No, it truly is the girl math that happens in Danny's head is so funny.
She's like, I'm like, I want, I'm like, I want the $10,000 change to the edges of the countertops, but then I need to sell this dress.
Yeah, no, true.
And a garage sale.
She's also like, we're like, we're at the garage.
grocery store and she's like, Jordan, take back Horizon organic milk. We need to get bored and I just got countertops.
It really does. In the math makes no sense. I know. It's so, y'all, it's so expensive. And what's so hard about, like, no offense. Like, I love my designers. Yeah. But they're so expensive and they just don't care about money.
No, they don't. They don't. They just, they care about aesthetics. And I'm like, same, you know? But then it's like, who's paying for this thing? And we get this like beautiful info picture and like this clause.
it's going to be stunning. And they're like, do you want this? And I'm like, you didn't tell me that was an
extra 15 grand. Funny story. You actually walked into this house two trips ago and walked out.
She was like, this ain't it. No, that's actually I, because at the time, I was like, I really wanted a big backyard.
And we really wanted like acres, but we didn't, we wanted like two acres, not like seven acres or something.
And we, when we pulled up to see this house, our realtor took it took us to it. And I said, no, because the
Looked into another person's backyard kind of like you could kind of you can't like see them in there because they're the privacy fence and trees
But but but I didn't like the fact that when I was looking out that you could see somebody else's roof
So we actually we showed up and I was like now next house and
So I we did turn it down but yeah, it called me back
The other funny story.
Jenny if you want to approach the mic I heard this story for the first time come on Jenny come on Jenny come on down
You have to come and tell this story.
I just heard this story for the first time.
And come in.
Please tell it.
I can tell it.
It's probably that's funny.
Jenny is basically like the president of Danny's brand.
And sounds so official.
I just started.
I started out like two weeks ago.
Did you know what I just started calling you that to everyone?
And so.
But Jenny has this story that I just heard for the first.
Yeah.
like a week ago. And it is when people ask you like here's the best way to explain
Dan Yostin. And okay, you tell the story. Okay. So back in 2020,
after I had Stella, I had, I got like this horrible mastitis. I always get mustitis for
all my babies. There's something about my nipples. I don't know what it is. Sorry. Sorry,
do they hate people in here. But. So what they tell you to do now back in 2020,
it was all about the warm compress.
Now in 2026, they tell you to switch between hot and cold whenever you have these.
Because what my status is, it's a clogged duct of like breast milk that gets infected.
So you get this like big red lump and it gets infected.
So you get this rational over you.
You get fever.
You feel like you have the flu.
It's horrible.
Chills, aches.
It's awful.
And so back in 2020, they would tell you to put like a heating pad on there.
So, you know, I was like, girl, I'm not going to go.
buy a heady pad. I'm just going to make one.
So I got like an old sock.
I filled it with beans.
And anytime I needed to use it, I would just put in the microwave for 60 seconds.
It's a great, it was a great thing.
And it served its purpose.
I always stuffed that thing in my bra, kind of like I used to in sixth grade.
I really did stuff my bra with socks in sixth grade.
One time I fell out.
It was horrible.
Jacob Cowan found it.
It was awful.
He was my first boyfriend.
He was Jewish.
I was Christian.
He told me I couldn't marry him.
I was like, Goet, please.
I was like, goy.
It's 1999, please.
I'm kidding.
So, yeah, so I had that, so I always use this sock anytime I need a heating pad or something, like, you know, something.
The sock did.
Every time you put in the microwave, it would turn a little brown.
So it started out as a nice white sock.
It was actually probably yours.
Yeah.
And it's just over time, I don't know what it did.
about the beans.
I guess they would melt a little bit or something.
And yeah,
so it kind of got a little yucky.
But I would always save it for the next baby because I always knew.
I'm going to have another baby.
So then 2020 rolls around.
I have Stratton.
Same thing.
Pull out my sock, microwave, gets a little bit more brown.
Then I have my third baby, 2025.
Same thing.
I always put it.
I always had this section in our house with all of my pregnancy stuff, you know,
and my breastfeeding stuff.
So then 2026 rolls around.
Same thing.
Have a baby.
Get my stitis, pull all my socks.
Eating blankets are improving year over year.
Year of a year.
There's ways to do it.
But like if it ain't broke, why fix it?
And something about me, it's like, well, I was raised by tornado and she was a hoarder.
She was the oldest of five.
And, you know, it's like, you can't get rid of anything.
And so it's really taken me a lot in my life to learn like what I need to get rid of,
what's actually like necessary.
what was that what was the method where you hold it and ask if it if it brings you joy oh i don't know
who remember it murray quondo yeah yeah yeah condo condo condo i think condo mary condo you know and like
i held the sock to my chest and i was like yeah it still brings me joy so i never got rid of it um
well do people know you're pregnant okay so jenny's pregnant congrats i knew first sorry and um
You know, I love to, I was like, this is probably my last baby.
So I got to give Jenny a lot of my old breast pump, a lot of clothes that don't fit my babies anymore.
So she sends me a video last week.
And she's like, Danny, I'm so thankful for everything that you sent me.
Like, you gave me the breast pump and I'm so thankful for all these new clothes.
Like, look at all the stuff that you gave me.
But this.
I had donated to her, my old sock.
But Jenny, here's the thing.
You're going to love it.
You're going to use it.
I hope you kept that.
Did you?
She threw it away?
Oh, she's not vice president of the company.
She's not present anymore.
Demoted.
She's demoted.
It was never officially promoted.
Well, I can't look at you anymore.
Oh, that's so funny.
Well, you can make it.
That's a good news.
And the reason you gave it away is because it was easier to give it away than it was to throw it away.
I could never throw it away.
It was Marie Kwan.
It was almost like you were like, Jenny.
I can't do this, but this is your problem.
And you know what?
I'm actually a little upset that you told me that you gave it, that you get thrown away.
Because here I am thinking it had a safe new home.
It is so true.
It's the, it's the craziest thing about you.
Like, you will.
It's like, I'm so cheap, but I'm not.
You're so cheap, but then you're so not.
You can't put you in a box.
No, but I just like, anybody that was raised like that knows like that can't be taken away from you.
Like what you cheap once you always cheat
Yeah no I get it
But like I try to be classy
Yeah
Yeah
Cessier
You know
Yeah
It's like when you go to someone's house
Like you can't go empty handed
Mm-hmm
So I'll bring them the sock
So true
You know
My mom always like gives
Like my mom always like
Gives people the gifts
That she didn't like
You know
Babe you do that
You 100% do that
I do not.
No, uh-uh.
That's not too.
Do I do that?
You guys better be careful because I've gifted you guys diamonds before.
No.
Well, that's different.
You actually have given them.
I buy gifts for Christmas.
You're a great gift giver, but like.
I buy gifts for Christmas.
I,
you even said I'm a great gift giver on Christmas.
You are a great gift giver.
I always listen.
But you also,
you have an Amazon closet that.
Well, yeah.
If I don't know you that well,
I will give you something that I don't like.
Okay, yeah, that's fair.
Because I don't know you that well.
But if I really know you and I love you, like, I'll try to buy you something nice that you've always wanted.
That's true.
That's true.
Yeah.
So you'll always know if I like you or not.
But the quality of gift.
You should tell people what I got you for Father's Day this year.
I actually like tried.
And I feel like you didn't really appreciate it.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
See, you want?
Wait.
Hold on.
This is what?
I give people dirty socks because they don't appreciate it.
Were those new t-shirts?
No.
What did you get me for fathers say?
I actually planned it like probably a month and a half in advance.
Was it an experience?
No.
Some would say it could be.
I gifted you a drawing that I didn't draw it.
Okay.
Do you know what?
Okay.
You did and it was so sweet and I'm so grateful.
But also we were on a trip before that.
Who are we with?
I remember someone goes,
are you excited for Father's Day?
And I remember your eyes got really big
because I think that you had forgotten.
No, I have the text messages.
I hired this girl to do a commission piece.
I sent her the picture a month and a half in advance,
almost two months because it took her two months to draw it.
Okay.
Okay.
That's, that's, I thought you pulled that off.
So offended right now.
I thought you pulled that off in like three days.
I remember we were with someone.
And someone goes, are you excited for Father's Day?
My eyes got so big because I was so excited because I've been planning it for a month and a half.
Really?
You're not joking around.
Girl Scout honor.
Oh, that's so funny.
Okay.
What day is Father's Day?
This year?
Like, in general.
I don't know.
It's, well, it was, it's in June.
Like usually.
It's in June.
I actually thought that you, and it was a sweet gift, I thought you pulled that off in like three days.
Third Sunday of June.
Okay.
I texted her.
May 7th. Okay, that's sweet. I'm so sorry. Yeah, you really didn't like act like you liked it. No, I did.
And May 7th, I ordered it. And I did look, the text message, May 7th. I believe you. I found her on
Instagram and I gave her my phone number. That's so sweet. So I actually probably found her a couple days
before May 7th. Let's just call it Cinco de Mayo. I was thinking about you. No, I believe you. That was so sweet.
Well, you never really said thank you. And now I'm really not feeling appreciated it.
No, I did.
And I sent her a picture of look, look, it's this picture.
I sent her these options.
I was like, here's three options of him with our children.
I didn't even put myself in it.
That's how much I love you.
That's so true.
You know what?
I love you, but you.
Her name's Adina.
No, I believe that you were very intentional about the gift.
You're not the best with dates.
My birthday, for example, my friend Michael Burns, his birthday's,
on the second.
Babe, this was like so two years ago that I used to forget your birthday.
Not the actual day.
No, she'd be a day off or two.
No.
I always thought your birthday was January 4th.
Yes.
It's January 3rd.
And she's got it.
Guys, it's a hard date.
It's a hard date.
And we have four kids.
Let me ask you, what's how much birthday?
January 8th, 9th.
8th.
I actually don't remember you.
I do not know when Smith's birthday is.
I feel,
people like ask medical forms,
I guess because I'm so embarrassed at the counter.
Is it January 9th when they stormed the Capitol?
Sixth.
Okay, good.
Then his birthday is January 9th.
So Michael Burns' birthday, second, Jordan's third.
January 6th, stormed the capital.
January 9th, Summit's birthday.
Yeah.
Smith is February.
18. Good. Okay. I remember the trick in my mind is it was like a couple days after Valentine's Day
because we actually got to go to the Valentine's Day dinner and then I always I always forget if it's 18th or 28th.
If you have seven kids, are you expected to remember all their birthdays? My parents always knew my
social security number. How am I supposed to remember that for four kids? I don't know. Actually, do you know
your social security number? Babe. It's I save it in my phone.
She hands it out at the park.
So if I forget, then at least 17 other people know.
You're like, if you want to stalk me, here's my phone number, my social security number, my address.
Only if you can remember it when I need it.
Do you want me to put you on Find My Friends?
No, I don't do find my friends.
That's like creepy.
Me neither.
You can follow me though.
I always know offended that you never wanted to follow me.
No, I feel like it's like a trust thing.
Oh, really?
Yeah, like why would I need to follow you?
I trust you.
Fair.
If I go missing or something.
Yeah.
No one's even stalking you.
I don't think you're going anywhere.
I think you're fine.
Ouch.
I'm going to remember this conversation next Father's Day.
I know.
I know.
That was bad.
That was bad.
Yeah.
Anyway, so let's get into the podcast.
How long has it been going?
Okay, we're good.
No, I have to tell.
We have so many other things to talk about.
Okay, okay.
Well, I just want to talk about everything you've been learning and how we started watching that new show.
Okay, yeah.
The new Little House on the Prairie, don't sleep on it.
It's awesome.
And it's like wholesome.
I've never seen the original nor read the books.
Fun fact, my brother was named after Michael Landon from Little House in the Prairie.
That's super fun fact.
Yeah, the new guy, his name is Charlie and he's such a man.
The main character?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You are too, though.
Thank you. Yeah. He's like building houses with his hands. Yeah, but you're like building houses built like in a different way.
Thank you. In like the modern way. Like you're the Michael landed of today. Wow. That's like the nicest thing you ever said to me. I know. You're really lucky after that fallers day. I didn't even deserve that. So it's a great show and it's basically set in a time where Western expansion was happening. So unfortunately the U.S. government was kind of kicking a lot of the Native American
off their land. And so what I was telling Haley on our team, who lives in Oklahoma, first of all,
I asked her if she knew what Oklahoma meant in Choctaw. What does it mean? Red people. It's derogatory.
Why don't they change the name of the state? Well, so here's the thing about Oklahoma. It's kind of a
weird state because there were a ton of Native Americans there. Okay. And a ton of land was kind of like
unfortunately stolen
yeah right in the western
or westward expansion
and do you remember that movie
Killers of the Flower
oh my gosh y'all this movie is
so good so you have to like
it's three hours you have to
kind of research the story
before you watch it so that because we
tried to watch it about a year ago
yeah but you got to know the story
and I read the book in Anguilla
and the book is by this guy
named David Gans
And he writes like a narrative nonfiction.
So like he'll tell a story that's like historical and it's really well researched, but he'll tell it in like a really like narrative format.
So there's only a couple authors that do that.
He's awesome.
And so he wrote the book, Killers of the Flower Moon, which is about or which is what the movie's based on.
And the movie is based on this tribe of Indians called the Osage Indians.
Okay. And during Western expansion, when the government was basically kicking the Indians off the land, they would do this thing called allotment, which basically means that they parcel up the land and then they'll market across all the colonial states and say, hey, come to Oklahoma, you can get free land.
Why did they do that? Because they, it was just part of like them wanting people to disperse.
Like they were trying to steal the land?
well and so by getting people there that's i think there's like a whole history of like you know first
we were like allies with the native americans and then it was like it became about resources then
it came about land because the ozage had found they had all that land that was like had oil well so so
the o'sage actually had the most like fertile lush land in like that oklahoma missouri area it was a big
tribe and um what happened was as we started
pushing the Native Americans further west. The Osage, which is what the book is about, it was a
tribe that was like, we are tired of the white man, the U.S. government, taking our land. And so they
were like, we're going to settle our new community and our new tribe on this like really rocky,
hilly, patchy land because they were like, there's no value to this land. It just has water and
rocks. So they'll leave us alone. The settlers will leave us alone. Well,
They were really smart because they, I think the guy's name was Big Bear.
Like it was the chief of the tribe.
He settled with the U.S. government.
And the one clause they threw in at the end was that we get mineral rights to this land.
The Osage get mineral rights.
Which no other tribe, like the Choctaw didn't do that, the Cherokee.
Like no one did that.
And so they end up striking oil on this like really rocky land.
Okay.
And they own the mineral.
rights to it. So all of the sudden, this Native American tribe becomes like this crazy wealthy.
Like some of the richest Americans at that time were Osage Indians. So it's kind of like this small
town that is like you have Osage. Like there's stories of the Osage like were so wealthy that if
they got a flat tire on their car, they would just buy a new car. And you would have like white men
serving the Osage and being their drivers. So.
So the whole movie in the book is this crazy story about how the FBI, it was the first
major mass murder case of the FBI under Hoover.
And what happened was there was this whole cottage industry of fraud who basically of white
people marrying Osage.
For their money.
To get their mental rights because what the government did was because they were so wealthy
and they couldn't take back the land, what they did was they basically said,
oh, the Osage don't know how to manage their money.
So what's that thing that Britney Spears?
Conservativeship.
So they created like a law that basically said, if you are not full-blooded
Osage, or I think it maybe actually is if you are full-blooded O'Sage,
you have to have a guardian to manage your money.
So for example, if you were Osage and you were like,
let's say you had five million dollars at the time,
you would have to go to your guardian and say, hey, my child is sick.
Can I have money?
I need some money for medicine.
It's horrible.
So it was like a cottage industry of people who controlled the guardianship,
but then what happened was a lot of fraud started to happen where basically
settlers would come into this community, marry Osage women.
And then the conspiracy that started to happen was all these Osage would start dying off.
Well, what happened was if you, if an Osage woman, woman,
Yeah.
If they married a white man, then...
That could be their guardian.
The man could be their guardian.
So they were kind of both incentivized to get married if you think about it.
Because then if she married someone that was good, then she had more access to her money.
Yeah.
Right?
She wouldn't have to go through a stranger.
They wouldn't have to go through a stranger.
So she, like, incentivized the marrying to like white men, right?
Or women if it was a man.
Which, of course, also diluted their culture.
dieted them. Yeah. And so, so the, the true story is, I forgot what his name is in the movie,
but it's played by Robert De Niro. And it was kind of this guy who went, was like a friend to the
Osage. He was known as like the best friend to the Osage because he had, he was the deputy sheriff.
He had all the politicians on his payroll. And basically what the FBI found out was this
person was, had doctors on payroll that was, that were poisoning all the Osage.
So all the women, all of these osage, like I think the death rate, the normal death rate at that time was like 9%. And if you looked at like the death toll of the Osage, it was like 30%. Yeah, the Osage women like never lived past like 45 or 50. Because they were all like dying off from basically being poisoned or their husbands would be poisoning them or like they basically married them so that they could kill them and take all their money. Yeah. Like there were a lot of cases where like an Osage would be like shot in the.
chest and it would be like labeled a suicide. So all of these kind of like never went investigated. So
Hoover, a part of the FBI kept getting inquiries and Hoover was really big on his image. And so he
sends this like Oklahoma sheriff. And he's like, hey, listen. No. Yeah, Texas Ranger. You're right.
Texas Ranger. And one of this Texas Rangers signed up and was like, hey, Hoover was like, if you sign up for
this, there's been a lot of FBI agents that have basically been killed off like trying to investigate
this. So this.
group of Texas Rangers goes in and basically finds out who was behind this and it ended up being like
one of the most major like mass murder cases of the Native Americans.
You got to watch the movie. It's so good.
And what's crazy, this is the crazy.
Lealardo DiCaprio is in it, but he does not look in it. Let me just tell you.
No. And what's crazy is even after they popped this guy and sent him to jail, it still happened
after and it probably still happened before, which means that there was like a whole look the other way industry.
Like this late so Leonardo's I don't want to give it away you just got to go watch it you got to watch it
it's awesome but Oklahoma the other thing I learned about so in little house of the prairie it's about the
family moving into the Osage land and it's like in the time where the Osage are just now starting to get
pushed out and even in the first episode there's this line where he's like we should settle within
like the rocky lands up here because then maybe the white people will leave us alone and so it's all kind of
of like part of the same lucky that they found oil there yeah okay wait this is a dumb question
because i know nothing when we buy our house do we own the mineral rights to the land below us
i don't know yes i think i yes because we own the land i i think we would own the mineral rights
in addition isn't that so crazy i know like but like no one's going to drill for oil in our backyard
Why not?
I mean, people go bankrupt.
It's like called wildcatting where you basically are guessing where oil is.
The other thing that I learned, which is relevant to us being UT Longhorns, is so when...
Also, the UT here in Nashville is the University of Tennessee.
It's very confusing.
I know it's very confusing.
So what I learned is that, so you know how like it's called the OU Sooners?
Do you know what a sooner is?
I think you told me, but I kind of forgot.
But it's like when they did the land rush, it's people that cheated.
Yeah, so the way when they parceled out the land, the way that they would like basically let people take this land is there would be a starting line.
They would literally blow a whistle and then people would bum rush.
And if you got to the land first, it was yours.
So you're literally running on horses, horses, wagons, whatever.
It was like literally like a rush to get this land because it was like stolen from the Native Americans parceled out.
And then it was like.
So you're telling me that it's yours for the taking.
Are cheaters?
No, no.
The Sooners were a group of people.
It was like a derogatory term because they skipped the start.
starting line and they would settle on the land before the official start. So it was like for a long
time it was like a derogatory term. But Oklahoma is basically red people in Choctaw. And then they've
got all these sooner. So it's kind of like such a bad PR state so that they started a university
and we're like, we're going to rebrand what a sooner means. Yeah. And that's why when the
Sooners come out of the tunnel, they come out on that wagon that they race on.
Isn't that crazy?
History is just so interesting.
So Sooners basically are a bunch of cheaters.
They're rebranded cheaters.
Hook them horns, baby.
I know.
How do you think OU explains this?
I was going to say, and I would love to hear it at my DMs because I know I'm going
to.
It's so memory holds that like it's like one of those things where it actually was something
bad but then like over the course of like decades and decades we just forget the original meeting
we're just thinking about it's just history they say the university embraces the the university embraces the
university embraces the complexity of our heritage that's what i mean oh you athletics teams are
either called rough riders or boomers for 10 years before our current Oklahoma sooner nickname
they basically are just like this is complex we can't explain it on the yeah no for sure i get
For sure.
You know, things are complex sometimes.
It's complicated stuff.
It's usually not black and white.
Yeah, never.
That's interesting.
Thank you for that history lesson.
You know, we always have to give you guys something educational.
That's why we are labeled an educational podcast.
Yes, for sure.
The other thing, which I'll say for next episode.
Oh, you can tell us now.
The Odyssey's coming out.
I'm so sure this is going to get cut.
It's going to be shorter anyway.
The Odyssey's coming out.
Oh, I know you have like a whole like boy gang guy gang.
Yeah, I bought seven tickets.
All my new friends in Nashville are going.
Have you ever read it?
Yeah, we had to.
The Iliad.
Well, that's the that's the precursor.
Oh, then maybe I didn't.
No, we did.
We read it.
I remember because I sat next to this guy that was forwarded in class.
When we read the Ilya in the Odyssey, I'll never forget it.
Yeah, I mean, we'll talk about.
my brain remembers. We'll talk about it next week.
But they say that your olfactory
senses are the strongest and you never
forget that. Yeah, you never forget that.
But I'm reading it right now for the first time.
I never read it. I thought it.
Really? Babe, it is so
cool. Yeah, that's why people liked it.
That's why people have to read it in school.
It's awesome.
Yeah, that's why they made a movie after it too.
Oh my gosh. But it's going to be really,
I'm super interested to see the movie
because it's so complicated
and there's so much depth that I'm like,
how are you actually going to do this in a movie?
Yeah.
But is there anything better than like reading the book before the movie comes out?
No, and I feel so pompous about it.
And you're like, you're like, this isn't like the book at all.
I'm like, hey, let me tell you, in the book, in the book, this is what happened.
Yeah.
I've actually never done that before.
I usually watch the movie and then read the book.
Oh, see, not me.
This is the first time.
I have to finish reading it by Sunday.
I would say the only, the only movie that ever,
like lived up to the hype of the books was twilight.
Oh, I never read the books or solo movies.
Yeah, I wouldn't have expected you to.
But that and maybe Hunger Games is pretty good too.
Really?
All of them.
Harry Potter.
Some would say Harry Potter.
Oh, yeah.
I never,
I wasn't allowed to read Harry Potter.
Okay.
Your friend Bridget told me something that blew my mind.
Yeah, tell us.
Okay.
On the topic of literature.
So this is no, no, listen.
Listen, this blew my mind.
Okay, she was telling me, I'm not a Harry Potter fan.
Okay.
And she was like, you should become one.
Because basically, do you know what fan fiction is?
Now, you know, I played a few video games growing up, but I'm not that.
No.
So fan fiction is like when you, it would be like taking Edward and Jacob from Twilight and then creating like sub-narratives and subplots and like writing like fan fiction about the characters.
So does a fan write it?
apparently there's this book and it's like blacklisted band and you can only get it on
TikTok and it's Harry Potter fan fiction and it like got like copyright infringement so they had to
shut it down and so there's this like inner sanctum community that's trying to get this book
and it's like printed on like the black market and it's all this crazy Harry Potter fan fiction
based on like the characters and like I love it what's like the most popular
fan fiction book.
I don't know.
Probably this.
Like where are we,
where's this fan fiction coming from?
What?
Whoa.
He's right.
Does he have a microphone?
Give him the mic.
No,
come on.
Twilight was originally 50 Shades of Grey fan fiction.
That's actually so crazy.
I'm mind blown.
I never read 50 Shades of Gray.
What should I know?
that's that's crazy okay it's called this book is called manacled and it's by sin luna s e n l i n yu and
apparently it's super dark and you can only get it on ticot but it's all harry potter fan fiction
wow i just i told her i was like i'm not a big harry potter fan but like i would read harry potter
just to read that and like get into it. That's just so cool. That's like a that's like a cold like a subculture
within a subculture. Yeah it's the deep tracks. It's the deep tracks. I love that. Do I feel like we need
something like that in like the influencer industry. That's such a good idea. Yeah. I have them sometimes.
But how do we do it? Like I don't know. Well you got to go you got to go gossip girl with it.
Oh it's like so then like there's a gossip girl that comes out.
And it's like, who is it?
But it's actually me.
And like I reveal everything about everyone.
Yes.
Because I know some stuff.
Yes.
That would pop.
Yeah.
But like also would it though?
Because now everyone's like, influencers.
Like who cares?
But he would have to be from someone that actually knows.
And that's what would be so fascinating.
But I would never do that because it's wrong.
Yeah.
No.
But like if I did.
I'm honestly surprised that there are not more.
like whistleblowers.
Yeah, that's a good call.
In the, in the creator space.
Well, I think that sometimes...
It's kind of like the...
It's like the celebrity industry.
Like, you know that they all know crap about each other.
Yeah, like we all know crap about each other.
But they just...
It doesn't leak really that much from like within.
It's always like speculation and like more and stuff.
People from the outside that...
But you know what?
Maybe it does actually leak a lot more than we think.
Just it's all on Reddit.
About celebrities?
Yeah, or just like people.
Yeah, I don't know.
Guys, thank you for listening to this episode.
We have to have a hard cut because now we're in a studio and we have a time limit on things.
But, you know, make sure you check us out on Instagram and TikTok, de-implence podcast.
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No, but thank you guys for listening.
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