Dear Chelsea - A Late Bloomer with Kaitlin Olson

Episode Date: January 8, 2026

Kaitlin Olson (Hacks, High Potential, It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia) joins Chelsea to chat about juggling 3 shows at once, forcing her husband Rob Mac to fall in love with her, and why balls... are funny… until they’re not.   Then: A postal worker can’t jibe with girls her own age and finds happiness in may-december friendships.  An ex-wife struggles to name a newborn.  And an ex-stripper chases her new dream job - but will her past hold her back? * Check out Redneck Kitty at @redneck.kitty * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at DearChelseaPodcast@gmail.com * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:54 Hi, do you hear my voice? I can hear your voice, miss Critics Choice Award host. You absolutely crushed it. Oh, thank you. I had such a good time at the Critics Choice Awards. I can't believe how I can't believe my dresses and my tucks and the way I looked. I was like, what? I saw pictures in myself. I'm like, oh my God. I can't believe that I'm 50 years old and I look better than I did when I was 35. Every woman that is listening to this, you need to know how much better everything keeps getting like oh my god my body my face everything looks better i'm so pleased and i have to tell you i love the way you look at a tux you know this already but like i love it that was my nod to diane keaton
Starting point is 00:03:38 but i loved it too i felt like a i felt like a real fucking bitch in that tux that's the best way yeah it was super fun i'm here in new york city getting ready to do some press i'm doing kelly clarkson and I'm doing Jimmy Fallon tomorrow night to promote my high and mighty tour. Tickets are on sale, people. Get your tickets. The tour jumps off in D.C. in February. So get your tickets.
Starting point is 00:04:04 And we have a fun guest today. She know her from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Hacks, and her new show, High Potential. So please welcome Caitlin Olson. Hi. Oh, look who's here. Hi, Caitlin Olson. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:04:21 God, I can't believe I've never met you before. This is crazy. I know. I was watching you in High Potential the other night doing your detective work. I'm like, have I met her or not remembered? And I'm like, no, I would remember your energy because I love your energy. Every time you're in a scene in any of the things that you do, you light up the room. And that is just like, you're so sweet. No, I mean it. I mean it. You're just so light filled. And I just love that about you. So congrats on being light. Oh, my. Thank you very much. I've never been congratulated. on that before and I really appreciate it. Well, there's a lot of things that are going to happen today that have never happened to you before. I can't wait. First of all, I can't believe
Starting point is 00:04:59 it's always sunny has been on for 20 fucking years or 20 seasons. Is it 20 years? 20 years, right? 20 years. It's 20 years, yeah. So you, that's crazy. That's like two lifetimes of television. It's getting weird. Like, for a few years ago, it was exciting. We're like, oh, we're breaking records. And now it's like, well, now we're just old and weird. Yeah, it is. It's probably, I mean, I'm not saying it is getting weird, but I can understand what you're saying about it getting weird. I mean, I think the main reason you have to be always grateful to that show is because you met your husband. So, like, if it weren't for that, then you can't have any mixed feelings about that. I have zero mixed feelings about it. I met my husband. I've got two kids. It's the best thing
Starting point is 00:05:41 that ever happened to me. But also, you don't want to overstay your welcome. You know what I mean? So at what point am I like, I should probably Irish exit. Should I just leave the show and not tell anyone? Oh, I didn't know if you were talking about your marriage or the show, but copy that. Either way. Either way. Both would be very exciting and a fresh start. You guys met the first year and you obviously hooked up right away. Is that right? Or you tell us, what happened?
Starting point is 00:06:02 I mean, in the scheme of things, it was right away, but it felt like a lifetime. He loves the story that I definitely was interested in him and took every opportunity to be at a party where there was alcohol to find myself, like, touching him with some part of my body, just getting really in his space. And he was like, okay, this is, this is, this is, unprofessional. And I was like, excuse me, I'm flirting with you. And I didn't understand it. And then I just hammered him with it, you know? I just poured on the alcohol. Right. And then I hammered him. Well, he hammered him. In the end, he hammered me. Let's just be very clear.
Starting point is 00:06:33 There was a flip that switched. My friend said that to me the other day. And I was staying with my friend Kat. And she's like, did you ever bang that guy? I go, what? Who talks like that? I go, first of all, I go, bang him. And she goes, yeah, you never say bang? I go, no, I don't. I don't ever say that. By the way, you're the one getting banged. I'm not, and she goes, that depends how you look at it. I'm like, well, I'm definitely not banging men when I have sex with them. They're banging me, thank you very much. So your husband's Rob McElheny, right?
Starting point is 00:06:59 But he goes by Rob Mack now. Did he change his name? Yeah, he made a big thing about it. He changed his name, and now he's Rob Macch, and I have two kids who are stuck with McElheny, so we don't talk about it. Well, he was actually originally Rob McElhenney the third. So your kids, right? Isn't that his real name?
Starting point is 00:07:17 There's a whole thing. His name has been a subject of great grief for him, our entire marriage, and I think his entire life. There's a lot of misunderstanding. I think on his birth certificate, it's just Robert McElhenny, but they put a space between the Mac and the El Henny, I think, accidentally. And so that's been really fun for me trying to figure out what my, because I have that technically as my last name. I don't use it, but it's like on my passport and stuff. But then his dad and his grandpa were Robert, but they have middle names and he doesn't. So he's not technically a third.
Starting point is 00:07:56 But I don't care anymore as the point. I just bored myself for the last 30 seconds trying to tell you care. Rob Mack. That's his name. It's easy. It's, he's great. Again, we're stuck with McElhoney, but that's a subject for another time. So how did you keep it a secret from the other cast members until you decided to go public with your relationship?
Starting point is 00:08:15 Well, we were just in our trailers a lot. And we just, I don't, I don't know. We thought for sure that they were going to find out because we thought it was really obvious because we were being very flirty. And we would travel for work back then. This is before we had kids. So we would be staying in hotels in Philadelphia and New York. And we'd always end up in each other's hotel rooms and like getting off on the wrong
Starting point is 00:08:36 floor with two cups of coffee and be seen by them and be like, I don't know. I, I, I'm not great with floors. I don't know. They had no idea, though. We kept it secret for a whole season. Wow. Well, that's impressive, especially in Hollywood terms. You know what I mean? I mean, those things are pretty obvious. Staying together for a whole season is impressive. Well, staying together for 20 seasons is even more impressive. I know. I read that you went to a baseball game while you were in labor. Well, I was planning a homebirth. That's, listen, I apologize already. This is going to be irritating. I was planning a home birth. So my midwife was like, you're going to go into labor. You're going to go for a walk. You're going to go grocery shopping. You're going to be in public so that you can't have a. a meltdown. You're to pull your shit together and you're just going to walk around. We're not going to lay down on a bed. And so I started feeling like I was having contractions and we were
Starting point is 00:09:27 supposed to go this game. And I was like, you know what? I'm supposed to go on with my life. Let's go to the game. So we climbed in, I folded myself into his, he had that original Tesla that looked like a little toy car that was like six inches above the ground. I folded my body into that. And we went to the game. And I think I made it seven innings, something like, I don't remember, but at a certain point, I was, like, throwing up and having diarrhea in the bathroom and I was like, probably time to go. And then what happened? Did you have the home birth? I did eventually, yeah, at some point the next morning. Did you have two, do both of your kids are home births? So I got pregnant the second time and I was like, oh, no, I should be, I probably have to do that again
Starting point is 00:10:08 so that they don't like find out and that turns into a therapy thing, like, well, why do you have me at home and then go straight to? So I decided to do it again, not because I wanted to. And three days into that when I was like, I fucking hate myself. I hate midwives. I hate babies. I hate everyone. And I did, I had him at home. Three days into what?
Starting point is 00:10:27 What do you mean three days into it? It was like two and a half days of labor. It was a lot. It was a long time. The second one I thought was going to slide right out. That's what I was promised. What a nightmare. Two and a half days of labor.
Starting point is 00:10:39 You were laboring at home for two and a half days before you had the baby. Yeah. At one point, we drove over the canyon behind garbage trucks because it was garbage day in the backseat of my midwife's Prius to go to the gynecologist to check something out just to make sure. And everything was fine. So then we drove back over the can. It was a lot happened in those two and a half days. Not a baby coming out. Wow. Wow. Wow. Tell me what playing the character you play on hacks has taught you about being a parent or what has it taught you not to do about being a parent. Yeah, I don't I don't know that I'd take any advice from from DJ. I love her.
Starting point is 00:11:17 But listen, DJ, I think, is going to end up being a real good mom because she's just going to look at whatever Deborah did and do the opposite. Which is always a good pointer. When you have great parents, it's impossible to replicate that, exactly. But when you have bad parents, it's almost a natural instinct to do the opposite of what they've done. Yeah, what a blessing to have a horrific childhood, you know, because then you know exactly what not to do. That's a great way to look at it. I want to know how you managed to be on starring in two shows, also on hacks. How do you, how, what, who's your agent?
Starting point is 00:11:53 How did you, how are you able to negotiate these kinds of deals? The good thing about Sunny is that we don't have a set time of year that we shoot it. We kind of shoot it whenever everyone's available. So I can, we can move that around and sort of make it work. It's only, this is my second year of kind of working literally every day nonstop. It's, it's starting to get to me. I'll be honest. It's a lot of work.
Starting point is 00:12:16 You know what it is? It's a lot of work, and it's working through now a second spring break and a second summer break for my kids. So I kind of feel like I should probably be going on vacation with you guys at some point in the next couple years, right? Absolutely. Absolutely. Especially because high potential is essentially a procedural. So that's a lot of hours. It's a lot of hours.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Yeah. I want to know about like the most fun memory or the most fun day of shooting that you ever had on. It's always sunny. People ask this, and first of all, I can't even remember all the episodes, but anytime I'm like lit on fire or I'm addicted to drugs or I've been thrown off a building, those are always the really fun ones. You read it. I love when people are like, do you ever read anything and be like, absolutely not. I'll never do this. I was like, no, who's that asshole? If they write me like big funny stuff, I'm so excited. There's a lot of fun, like, stunt stuff that I get to do on Sunny. Oh, you know, there was the one where we de-drowns in a bog. That was horrible. That was at like 2 o'clock in the morning. Yeah, anything like that that's insane. Yeah, well, I think that's what comes through in your, when I'm talking about your abulience, I'll use that word, my favorite word. Ooh, I don't know what it means, but I just inferred and I think I get it.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Yes, yes. That comes through in your willingness to just kind of be silly and outrageous, you know? Like, it's when people take themselves too seriously, you don't see that kind of shine through. It's like effervescence. Yes, an effervescence. Thank you. You're so welcome. Who's more vain, you or Rob?
Starting point is 00:13:43 Me. He's not that vain. No. There are other men on my television show that are a little bit more vain. Do you want to name names? Glenn. What about your kids? Do you let your kids watch any of your shows? Are they too little? You know, no, they're not. They're 13. My older one just turned 15, and he has been sneaking sunny scripts since he was about seven or eight. We'd find him in bed reading sunny scripts,
Starting point is 00:14:09 and we were like, well, this is bad. And then a few years ago, he started like, we would start we would show them different chunks of episodes and he's just obsessed with it and now it's off the rails he's like he's seen every episode he thinks it's amazing and i love that because it is a really funny show but when you're 15 you got to kind of fine tune that i mean i'll i'll pause things all the time he'll say stuff all the time where i'm like whoa that's not funny and then we have to have those conversations in time he's going to be a very very funny young man who's yeah who's funnier, you or Rob, in the family dynamic? I'm funnier. You're funny. And he'll tell you that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's smarter. He identifies himself as more of a writer, producer. He loves acting, but he would
Starting point is 00:14:53 say that I'm funnier. Okay. Well, that's good. That's smart. And which one of your children is more like you? Is there one that's more like you and one that's more like him? Yes. The older one who's sneaking sunny episodes is more like him and the younger one is more like me. And he legitimately cracks me up. The other day I got home, they had all had dinner. they're going to kill me. They'd had dinner and they were outside. We still have a trampoline in the backyard. My older one was spraying down my younger one who was jumping on the trampoline naked,
Starting point is 00:15:22 doing flips while Rob was taking slow motion video of him flipping naked. That's why I went to my dermatologist the other day and she was showing me her group chat between, you have two boys? Yeah. Yeah. She was showing me her group chat. She has four kids, three boys and one girl. and she was, I was like, this is so disgusting.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Like the way that boys talk to each other, the way that they drag each other, the nudity, the farting, the flat, yeah, the, it's all about assholes and penis, all about assholes and penis. All the time. There's so many balls. There's so many balls that I see on a daily basis.
Starting point is 00:16:00 My little one, Axel was chasing him with something, and he was like, don't do it, you do it, I'll strip. I'll strip. I swear to God, I'll strip. Because my older one's a little bit more prudent. And Leo's like, I'll just take all my clothes off. They crack me up. Balls are funny, you guys.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yeah, balls are funny until they're not. I think Rob talked about finding out he was neurodivergent. Like, when you found that out, I always find this to be fascinating. Did any of his, the aspects of his relationship or, I mean, aspects of his personality within your relationship, click? Yes. Like what kind of stuff? I remember going, oh, that's why, like, we would be in the car. just the two of us, like talking about something and that he would just go silent. Like, even while we were dating. And I was like, see, no, I'm still in the car with him. Like, he could just be completely in his own world. And I'm like, I'm not good with silence. I'm a person who has to like fill it or let's have a car or turn the music on or something. But what are we doing sitting here like not talking? And I was like, oh, there's so much going on in his brain at all times. Like he can easily be in a conversation with me and then just absolutely shut me out. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:17:09 trying to pick up the pieces of what just happened. That was one thing. There's a, million of them, though. But he's also, like, very prolific. He's super, super smart and he's constantly coming up with ideas or business ideas or show ideas or doing things a way they've never been done before. It's pretty fascinating. It's very impressive. Yeah, he probably misses you. Doesn't he want more time with you with all of your responsibilities? He does. They all miss me. It's very sweet. But it's one of those things, too, where it's like, he loves me a lot these days because I'm not around. I'm like, this totally works. I'm off doing my thing. Our relationship is great. You're missing me. Yeah. But yeah, it's exciting when we get to see each other. But I'm home. To be fair, like, I only work, they have me for 11 hours here. So plus drive time. Like, I'm home for evening. So we spend time together at night. Well, then maybe it is the perfect schedule. Yeah. You know? Yeah. It's great. I just need a vacation every once in a while and we're fine. Yeah. And then you get to get all your kinks out on set. Like get all of your energy out. And that way you can be like, you know, a full, complete mother. when you get home. You're not there all day dealing with them. I like that schedule. I love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Anybody can be a really excellent parent for three hours at a time. Rob's really doing the heavy lifting right now. I come home and I'm just a dream. I'm like the best mom ever. Yeah, that's the spirit. I always think about like mothers and how people handle stuff, especially in this business because there's so much to deal with, you know, and I could barely take care of my dog. I don't even really take care of my dog, to be honest. Today he had a limp, and I just was like, who do I text about this? You know, I'm like, and then they're like, did he, did anything happen yesterday? I was like, well, I was wrestling with him, so I'm probably the culprit. But I'm always just, I love your dog, by the way. Oh, thank you. Doug. He's so beautiful. He's so beautiful. And he's got
Starting point is 00:18:52 these big, beautiful brown eyes. It really makes me appreciate brown eyes. Because as a blue-eyed person, everyone in my family has blue eyes. So I always think of, it's this weird childhood thing, where I always look at blue. My parents both had blue eyes and all my siblings have blue eyes. And so I always looked at everyone with blue eyes like, that's home. And now that I have a dog
Starting point is 00:19:10 that has these beautiful brown eyes, I'm like, that's home. You're like there's some soul there. What's this? Yeah, he's definitely soulful. I feel like his voice, if he could talk, would be like Luther Vandros.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Absolutely. Absolutely. And that big thick tongue. Yeah, yeah. And they have purple tongues, chow, chow. You know that? They have those purple tongues.
Starting point is 00:19:28 So everyone always wants to see that. And you know what's so sweet about Doug? actually, he's so sweet with children, which is something that, like, you know, it's such a nice feature for a dog. He knows when to be gentle with small children, not with small animals, unfortunately. That's okay. Do you guys have pets? Yeah, we have two dogs and a cat, and they're all really good friends, obsessed with animals.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Yeah, I always wonder how cats get along with dogs, but I guess it's happened. I guess I grew up and we always had our cats and dogs completely separate. Other people seem to be able to integrate, but... Well, I think it depends on the kids. Cat. Rob didn't think he was a cat person for this reason. He's like, cats are all like finicky. This cat, I rescued him and brought him home, got him neutered and deflead and all that. And he, we had like him in a room and he came out of the room and saw the dogs came running towards him and he was like, hey, and flopped on his back. It was like, smell me. So I don't know. He just decided he was fine with it. Now they all play together. It's the best. And is it a fluffy cat or is it a skinny cat? He's a white fluffy cat with a big fat, fluffy tail. Oh, yeah. He can pull on it. He likes it. Does he like a fat face? a fat, fluffy face? Yeah, he's like, he's all fluff. He's like a big giant.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And if you hold him like this, he just like flops on either side. He's fine with whatever, which I like. I need that. I need you to be fine with me, man handling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like to put animals on their back and then just kind of molest them, you know?
Starting point is 00:20:47 Yeah. I want their bodies. I like the fur and I like the meat. The bigger, the better, the puffier. Yeah. All of it. Yes, yeah. Don't give me a skinny.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I don't want to have to be fragile. I got to throw you over my shoulder and you're coming with me. That's how I feel about babies too. I prefer them to be oversized. You know, like, I want a big nugget. If you have a baby on a plane or like, you know, then like the chunkier, the better. If you see a skinny baby, it's like, I'm not drawn to that.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And I mean, we already know how I feel about children, but babies obviously get a pass because they can be so luscious and just scrumptious, you know. But when they're thin, I don't like that. It's like a twig. Like it's too fragile. I don't want to be responsible for it. Did you have big babies? Yeah, big fat babies.
Starting point is 00:21:30 I feel like thin people. I know you're very thin. Because even on camera you look thin. I feel like thin people have the fattest babies. It doesn't make any sense. I don't know how it happened, but yeah, they were both almost nine pounds. Oh, God. Those are big babies.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Yeah. That is a big baby with your home birth with your two and a half day home delivery system. Yeah, yeah. Let me be very clear. It was terrible. Bad idea. We're going to take a break. And we're going to be right back with Caitlin Olson to get some, take some callers.
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Starting point is 00:25:19 Kelly and I have done a lot of things and played a lot of roles over this. the years, but both of us are just so proud to have been part of Family Matters. Did you know that we were one of the longest running sitcoms with the black cast? When we were making the show, there were so many moments filled the joy and laughter and cut up that I will never forget. Oh, girl, you got that right. The look that you all give me is so black. All black people know about the look.
Starting point is 00:25:45 On each episode of Welcome to the Family, we'll share personal reflections about making the show. Yeah, we'll even bring in part of the cast. and some other special guests to join in the fun and spill some tea. Listen to Welcome to the Family with Telma and Kelly on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, it's Ed Helms. And I'm Cal Penn, and we are the hosts of Earsay, the Audible and IHeart Audio Book Club. This week on the podcast, I am talking to film and TV critic, radio and podcast host, and
Starting point is 00:26:22 Harry Potter superfan Rihanna Dillon to discuss Audible's full cast adaptation of Harry Potter and The Sorcerer's Stone. What moments in this audiobook capture the feeling of the magical world best for you or just stood out the most? I always loved reading about the Quidditch matches and I think the audio really gets it because it just plunges you right into the stands. You have the crowd sounds, like all around you. It is surround sound, especially if you're listening in headphones. Listen to Earsay, the Audible and IHeart Audio Club on the IHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back with Caitlin Alston, who is the, she's on HACS,
Starting point is 00:27:15 she's the star of high potential, and she's on, it's always sunny in Philadelphia. so you really can't miss her. Caitlin, what was the best? Before we take a caller, can you think of the best career advice that you've ever been given? You know what? The best audition advice,
Starting point is 00:27:30 which is basically career advice for me, was to make it your own and stop reading all of the character descriptions so perfectly and trying to be exactly what you think they want because they don't even know what they want. Just read the material, make the material as good as you can
Starting point is 00:27:46 in your own voice and switch it up. Just make it at your own voice. own and then go in and have fun. And that was, honestly, that was very freeing once you stop caring about like, oh, I wonder if they're going to want this. They don't know what they want. They just want you to come in and be good. That was the best audition advice I got. And I still do it. Yeah, yeah. You have to own what you're doing, right? You have to make it your own and you have to make it personal to you. And that's kind of the only way to set yourself apart in any sort of
Starting point is 00:28:11 creative, I feel like any sort of creative medium. I think it absolutely, it, it, you can use that across the board. Just do what you want to do, be the best version. People like it. Great. If they don't, great. It wasn't for you anyway. You can't cram yourself into a box. Okay, great. All right. Well, are you ready to give some advice? Yes. Excellent. Excellent. Always. Always. Me too. Me too, sister. So our first question, this one's just an email, but this comes from Nicole. She says, Dear Chelsea, I'm writing in with a bit of a unique circumstance and would love some guidance on this. I'm recently divorced, and it's as amicable as it could have been. We share tween twins and co-parent great.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I kept my married last name because I hated my maiden name. I'm a veterinarian, and everyone in town knows me as Dr. X-husband's last name. That name is my kid's last name, too. My ex was totally fine with me keeping the name and using it how I wanted, even in our separation agreement. Now comes the tricky part. My ex never wanted more kids, but I do. I'm in the process of freezing eggs and hope to use a sperm donor before I'm all dried up
Starting point is 00:29:17 and my clock is ticking. I just turned 41. My ex is supportive of this. But do I give the potential new baby from donor sperm the last name of me and my kids? I feel weird. Not that my ex will mind too much, but I'm also thinking of his very traditional family who may find it offensive that I'm giving their name to a child that's not biologically theirs. That said, I want this child to share my current last name and the name my kids all have. Any advice? Nicole. I mean, that is your last name. When People divorced, does the husband have to give it back permission to give your name, to keep your name? It's not an engagement ring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:52 That's your last name. And also, who cares about the ex-in-laws? Keep the name. Exactly. Who cares about the ex-in-laws? I was going to say you could ask them, but then I thought, no, wait, why even bother asking them? Who cares to shit? We're never talking to them again.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Yeah. And you also want your kids to all have the same last name. Yeah. Yes, they're siblings. That's your argument for that, if anyone comes to you, or comes for you, I should say, about about passing that name along. Yeah. Especially if the ex-husband is okay with it.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah. Yeah. That's easy. All good. Problem solved. That's an easy one. Problem solved, guys. You're welcome.
Starting point is 00:30:25 All right, Nicole. Good luck, baby dust. Our next question comes from Redneck Kitty. She says, dear Chelsea. My name is Rachel, but my DJ producer entertainer name is Redneck Kitty. I'm 31 and I started DJing when I was living in Australia at the start of COVID. I was a COVID DJ. It's a thing.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I'm single. with no kids. Nine years ago, I lost my brother and partner, and that cracked me open in a very yolo way of living. I traveled the world, stripped to fund my dive trips, and went on skiing and climbing adventures, went from mansions to dumpster diving, and had all sorts of wild adventures in between. Wow. Therapy eventually reminded me that I might live longer than tomorrow, so maybe I should plan a future. After being at my soul's end with stripping last year, I was messaging chat GPT about switching careers, but decided first to consult Mother Aya, and she was very very much.
Starting point is 00:31:14 very clear. Music is my path. So I gave up stripping after nine years to pursue music. Luckily, I've saved smartly, and along the way, I met a couple sugar daddies who believed in me enough to give me some cushion to focus on my art. Now I've moved across the country to study under legend in the electronic music industry. I'm in school, and I love what I'm learning. But here's the problem. There's still this gremlin in my head screaming, who are you at 31 to suddenly decide you want to be a DJ? You're too old. It's a stupid choice. You'll never make it. You'll be a broke struggling artist forever. I should have started 10 years ago. Pursuing art feels scarier than free climbing a cliff without ropes, and I'm terrified. So here's my question. How do you
Starting point is 00:31:53 draw from that deep well of self-belief and confidence? How do you drown out the gremlin's when your heart knows what it wants, but your head just wants certainty? Is this a stupid idea? How do you trust yourself when your path isn't normal? Any advice on pushing past the fear and owning my space would mean the world, Redneck Kitty. Hi, Redneck Kitty. How are you? Hi. I. I. I'm good. I'm actually just, like, so excited right now. This is our special guest today. Caitlin Olson is here. Hi.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Hi, Caitlin. Nice to you. You too. Oh, I love your story. What a nice, adventurous life you've lived, and you're only 30. You have a whole, you have two thirds of your life left to go. And by the way, maybe more than that. Because they say if we make it through the next 10 to 15 years, you can extend your life until you're 150.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I don't know who the fuck wants to do that. I think I'll pop out before then. Yeah, I know. I mean, who could afford to do that? I think, listen, we all have those voices in our head, right, Caitlin? I mean, we all kind of don't know what we're doing or not certain of what we're doing. The proof that you have is that you're here and you've got the choice to do what you wanted to do and you got yourself all this way so far.
Starting point is 00:33:03 You're 31 years old. You're not too old for anything. This is the beginning of a new adventure. You've got yourself in a situation where you can actually choose what you want to do. do that is so powerful i think it's just like i don't know i kind of get in like the comparison space which i know is like comparison is a thief of joy but like i compare myself to all these like musical prodigies who like started when they're 18 and i'm or even you like you know you kind of like knew since you came out of the womb that you were like destined for greatness like you're like
Starting point is 00:33:33 i'm above all of you guys you know and i was like i kind of like a late bloomer in this of like i don't know realizing my path and so i kind of like get in my head and so i kind of like get in my head about it because I didn't know sooner that it's not right. And I don't know. That's just kind of like what I get in my head about. And like you talk a lot about wanting women to know they have like this deep well of resilience and strength and confidence that they can call on. And I'm just like curious, maybe like more practical tips on how you actually do that. But don't you when you look back on your life go, oh my God, look at everything that I have accomplished and lived through and here I am. And everything took you one step closer to where you are right now. And I think that you, I get that
Starting point is 00:34:16 feeling 31 felt really old to me too. I started doing sunny when I was 29. And like, and then I always say my 30s were way better than my 20s, which I thought was going to be impossible. And then my 40s were way better than my 30s. You're just getting started. And I think practically when you look back and you go, look at everything I've survived, I'm sure you've been through a lot more than what you have written out in your email. So you rely on that stuff. and you go, look at me now. And you also, you're so charismatic and beautiful and what do you have to lose, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Thank you. That's really nice. Yeah. And also, you know, off of what Caitlin just said, a great exercise, and this is in that book, David Hawkins wrote that I always talk about letting go, is writing down all of the things that you have accomplished, writing down where you came from, what you went through, how you, you know, all of the things you listed in that letter alone. I'm sure there's a zillion other things, but writing down as a reminder.
Starting point is 00:35:14 And every once in a while, like when I read that book, I'm reminded to do that, like all of the milestones I've reached, all of the accomplishments that I've had, even if you just go back a year and think about the biggest moments that you've had in the last year, as a reminder of your tenacity. And as a reminder to yourself of how powerful you are, you're choosing to make a decision. You're not letting life happen to you. You're happening.
Starting point is 00:35:39 You know what I mean? you're making your life happen for you and there's a lot of power in that and there's so many people who call into this podcast who don't have half of the confidence that you have and who haven't made those choices or haven't had the strength of mind to make determinations about what they want to do in their future and you're already doing that so like i would say when you get off of this call to literally just write down everything you've accomplished in the past year and then you're going to see in writing and you're going to understand how far you've come and if you do that every few months and as a reminder and like set it in your calendar and your phone as a reminder
Starting point is 00:36:15 to really reflect because this is the problem that I find is that we go so fast sometimes and Caitlin's life is just as busy as anybody's like you forget you know you forget to sit there and actually take a moment and be like wow you just got through all of this stuff and you just did this and you did you know I made this decision and I made this decision I got out of that relationship. I'm into this. Like all of the things that make you a person are really important to constantly think about instead of just zipping through life with no time to enjoy what you've done. No, you're so right. Like even just hearing you talk about it, like when I moved to Australia, I had like $500 in my pocket. And now here I am. Even just saying that, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:37:01 yeah, damn. I have done it. Yeah, that's cool. So hang up from here and do that, will you? I will. I'm going to make my list. Okay, great, great. And then put it on your refrigerator and kiss it every morning. Yes, I'm here. Different color lipsticks. Yeah, exactly. That's right. That's the spirit. That's the spirit. And then also if you have like a sound cloud or something, send me the link and we'll put it in the description so people can check you out. Oh, nice. Yes. I have a new EP coming out, Bootylicious bootlegs. It's basically a bunch of remixes to like the crunk dirty South hip hop I was raised on made into like tech house so if you're into that kind of stuff yeah I'm excited it's my first songs I've made I made a song I'm so excited there you go you made a song that's number one on your list
Starting point is 00:37:46 I made a freaking song I can't believe it I know this podcast is amazing I feel like I'm having a moment like my best friend she saw you in Vegas and she had like a moment where she like touched your hand and had a full anxiety spiral for three days that I had to talk her out of because she was like I felt like I meant God. I just did it go out. Oh, poor thing. Well, tell her I said hello and she has not met God and none of us ever will as far as I'm concerned. No, she's the one who put me on this podcast and I haven't even told her that I was going on.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Oh, my God. And hear it. And so shout out, you know who you are. I'm not going to say your name because she'll get pissed. But yeah, she loves you so much. All right. Thanks so much. We'll talk to you soon.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Thank you, guys. Have a great day. Bye. Bye. Bye. Look at how healing you are, Caitlin. This is two home runs back to back. I mean, that's that good light energy.
Starting point is 00:38:38 That's that abulience. Exactly. We're really doing it. We are really saving everyone. I love this. The way to hop on the train and get the party started. So our next question comes from Jen. She says, Dear Chelsea, I have a seven-year-old daughter who's a spitfire.
Starting point is 00:38:53 She's wonderful and loving and kind, but also she's exhausting. She challenges every single thing when she doesn't get her way. With her negotiation skills, she'll be an amazing lawyer or hostage negotiator someday. I don't spoil her, and she's very upset about that. She feels that each day after school, if it was a good day, we should go to Starbucks or Target or somewhere and get a treat. I tell her no and that we're going home. She throws a fit and whines and cries that she had a good day and she just wants a treat. I get it, girl, but we can't support a Starbucks habit for the both of us.
Starting point is 00:39:24 How do I help guide her to be a respectful person who listens to me and trusts me, especially as she gets into her teenage years, yet not extinguish her fire that I know will someday change the world, Jen. Well, somebody said to me the other day, I always love to ask people about their kids, like if they have favorites. I love to ask this question to men
Starting point is 00:39:43 because men always have a favorite, and it changes and it moves around. But somebody said, you know, the kid that gives you the most trouble is going to be the most successful. So that's something to hang on to. A way for your to teach your child about responsibilities and money like is to actually break, go to Starbucks one day, go get those treats
Starting point is 00:40:04 and then break down the receipt with her when you get home and show her exactly how much everything costs. I mean, I got something at Starbucks the other day that was $17 and it was one thing. I don't remember what it was, but it's absolutely ridiculous. So I think just kind of getting in there early and teaching them the value of money and maybe she can do little things around the house. You have to kind of reprogram her, it sounds like, just because she had a good day. That's a reward in it of itself. You don't get a reward for a reward. You know, her having a great day is great. But that's not something to be. But also, I'm not a parent. Caitlin, do you want to chime in here with any parental advice you might have? Well, you should be because that was perfect. And this just
Starting point is 00:40:46 happened the other day. Rob took one of our kids to a doctor appointment. And so he was like, if you get up early enough, we'll go to McDonald's. I'm like, why? Why? It's a doctor appointment. You're a teenager. You go to a goddamn doctor. and then you go to the dentist sometimes and then you go to the or like that's just that's part of life you don't get McDonald's every time you have to do something out of the ordinary but because I think it's like there's no like reward for having to just deal with like life stuff but I love what you said about come up with not basic cleanup after yourself because I don't think you should pay children for cleaning up after themselves we all live here we're all cleaning up
Starting point is 00:41:20 after ourselves but come up with little jobs for her where she can save money and then when she saves up enough money she can go to um Starbucks and spend it on something I think think that's great. But I totally agree with the, like, it was a good day. So everybody fawn all over me for not your, you're, what, in second grade? Like, it should be a good day. Yeah. And also, there's other ways to reward that, you know, like, oh, like a non-monetary ways to go home and play, okay, well, you know, on special days, on special occasions, we'll go home and we'll play a board game together for an hour. I'm going to give you my sole attention and we'll do something like that together. Or we'll plan something this weekend, just you and me, and we'll
Starting point is 00:41:56 do something like, there's other ways to make it. special other than you know going to starbucks or go to any of those places after school and also I just think like I remember my parents financially struggling growing up and I understood about money very early that if I wanted it I was going to have to go get it like I you know and I was resourceful enough and this girl sounds like she's going to get to that point I know she's only seven right is that what she said she's seven but you really just want to impress upon her how how much things cost, the world we live in, and the reality. Like, that's something you do once a week on a Friday, you know, to celebrate the weekend.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Okay, we'll go to Starbucks. You know, you know, and there's no reason to do that all the time. So that's my parenting advice for today's episode. All right. Our next question comes from Kristen. She says, dear Chelsea. My name is Kristen, and I'm 23 years old. I'm currently a mail carrier for USPS, and I'm fully independent.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I live by myself and fully support myself and my animals. I'm finding it hard to relate to people, my age and connect with them. I live in a college town at the moment, so most of my friends are in college or fresh out, and I'm having a hard time keeping friends. I feel like I don't really relate to people my age, and they're all immature, and I quite frankly can't stand them. They're very self-centered and weirdly mean. I'm not sure if it's me or why I'm struggling to keep female friendships. Please help Kristen. And she'll be joining us here in a moment. How old is she? 23. 23. Hanging out with college kids that are, what, 18 to 21? Or like just out of
Starting point is 00:43:28 college sort of thing. Did you go to college, Caitlin? I went to the University of Oregon. Oh, that's fun. I love Oregon. It's so pretty there. Yeah, I wanted to be close to my parents. I really, I didn't want to leave them. I was a very late bloomer.
Starting point is 00:43:43 I went home on the weekends. Caitlin, were you a late bloomer in other ways or in every way? I was a late bloomer in every way. I never snuck out of my house. I was like, why would you do that? My mom would be upset if she, like, if I was missing. All I wanted was boobs. I still kind of do, but not as much as before.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Didn't have a boyfriend all through high school, very, very late bloomer. I was like a little kid for a very long time. Got it. Hi, how are you? How are you? You're so cute. Look at you on your job sitting on your- I'm so sweaty.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Oh, that's okay, honey. We're all sweaty. I'm going through menipause, so I'm sweating too. So you're hanging out with younger people or people your age? Yeah, I hang out with a lot of older people. I just turned 24. Okay. And I can't seem to keep friends my age.
Starting point is 00:44:30 What happens? I don't know they ghost me. I just had a friend recently. She just unadded me on everything, and I don't know why. And I don't want to reach out because she clearly doesn't want to be talking to me. So I'm just not sure why. I connect with older women a lot better, like 50s, 60s. I just get along with them better, and it's easier to maintain relationships.
Starting point is 00:44:51 But I want friends my age to, like, hang out because I'm the same age as their kids. And that's just not what I'm looking for. Well, okay, it's not what you're looking for, but go where the light is. Like, if you're having relationships that are respectful and you're getting like something out of it, it doesn't matter how old those women are. I have tons of older. I just went to dinner last night with like 3, 70-year-old women. They're way older than me.
Starting point is 00:45:15 But like, I have friends that are 20 years younger than me. I have friends that are 20 years older than me. Wherever the light is, wherever those friendships, like you're going to make other friends in your life. This woman, obviously, or this young woman that goes. you, don't worry about her. Like, I understand that hurts your feelings. It hurts all of our feelings when we get ghosted. But just move on with, like, the intention of being open to friendships, whatever shape or age or size they come in. You know what I mean? Because when you have that
Starting point is 00:45:43 attitude, I feel like that has more of like a magnetic attraction. And it brings people who are more like-minded into your kind of sphere. And in the meantime, hang out with these older women. That's fine. That's not going to be the rest of your life. You're going to make other friends. You're so young. You're 24 years old. Like, you're going to meet other people. And you're going to figure out how to maintain friendships for longer periods of time. It might not have anything to do with you, quite honestly. Is there anything you can think of that you would have done to end any of these friendships? Well, the last one, she asked for money. And I said, I can give you money. So she unadded me on everything. And I thought it was because of money. But I'm like, there's no
Starting point is 00:46:26 way she wouldn't add me just because of money. Well, I mean, who cares? Listen, bye, bye, girl. Chelsea's so right. Also, I think you need to just focus on what it is that you want in a friendship and then you're going to find that in good friends. It doesn't matter how old they are. And like she said, this is all temporary. Listen, girls can be really awful to each other. And I like to think it's typically around like six, seventh, eighth grade, but it's truthfully, sadly, can be much longer than that. And that's just, something you need to be around. The second you get a weird energy or you get ghosted, then happily let that go. Just figure out what does friendship mean to you and what is it that
Starting point is 00:47:04 you're looking for? And if you're finding that an older woman for this small period of time, then enjoy it. I'm worried that it is something I'm doing because I continuously have these friends that I'll be with for like one to two years and then randomly they just like ghost me. So I'm worried I am doing something. And I've been trying to note that, but I'm not sure how to like keep track of it. I hear what you're saying. But Also, like a friend isn't just going to ghost you after one to two years for, I hate when, you know, when I was growing up and I had problems with like socially or whatever, those things don't go away. There's always people in your life that are going to not be there permanently. But like, sometimes it really doesn't have anything to do with you. I'm not saying you're completely absolved of anything. You know, maybe you, maybe you are doing something. But also people when, as you get older and more mature, people know that you're not going to get a hundred people. percent of everything you want out of every friendship. You kind of have to be willing to make mistakes or have people see all of you and still want to be friends with you. Like, that's the
Starting point is 00:48:07 sign of a strong friendship. So if somebody is fickle enough to kind of ditch you after something, like, you know, it is important to have self-awareness and be aware of the kind of friend you are and not maybe, you know, not be too needy. I don't know if these are any of the qualities that you might recognize in yourself, not be too needy, not be too demanding. you know not be putting so much weight on every friendship and just kind of go at it with a more ease like just think of it as more of like it's an audition it's not permanent you know what i mean and just to kind of think of it in that way like building blocks it takes a long time to build a really solid friendship it doesn't happen over six months you know that's kind of like a almost like
Starting point is 00:48:48 love bombing but with friendships so just give yourself a little grace and the women that you are friends with. Ask them if there's anything odd about you or weird about you that they might recognize because they sound like real friends. Maybe they have some feedback because they know you better. But I wouldn't focus on your shortcomings. I would really focus on just your attitude towards friendship. Yeah. And even like this friend who asks for money, like it's likely not that she's mad at you for not giving her the money. She might be, let's say, embarrassed that she asked. And you know, those sorts of things that she doesn't want the reminder. And I also just think this like 22 to 27, friendships are going to be changing. You know, it's not an easy thing to go through.
Starting point is 00:49:30 But some of my best friends I didn't meet until I was like in my late 20s. And there's some of my closest people. But sometimes the people you meet in your 20s, like they're, they're kind of in and out for a couple of years. It's just sort of a transient time, friendship-wise. Yeah. Yeah, that's just I get told I'm weird and off-putting a lot. I am very blunt. And I say what I mean. And I don't know. I'm not always unkind. in the way I say things, so I'm worried that could be it, too. I just, I feel like that's why older women get me because it's like they say what they want, they say what they mean, they don't take anyone's bullshit, and that's how I am.
Starting point is 00:50:04 That's how my mom raised me to be. And so I feel like those friendships don't last because I can be too, like, this is what I want, this is what I don't want. Right. Well, do you like that about yourself? I do. I get people think I'm way older than I am because of how I am. Listen, there's nothing wrong with being upfront about what you want and, and, and,
Starting point is 00:50:24 blunt about what you think. You would recognize if you were being unkind, I think, don't you? Yeah, I don't, I would, I think. I'm sorry. I think so too. And listen, don't be sorry. I think it's a dangerous game to start micromanaging and really putting such a microscope on every single thing that you're doing and trying to figure out what you're doing wrong. I think you need to just know what kind of person you want to be. And seems like you're a pretty kind person who knows that you want friendships and knows that you're going to be honest about how you feel about things. There's nothing wrong with that. So I don't know. I don't think you should be scouring every move to be like, did I do something wrong? Did I do something wrong? Because that's not a way to live. Just be,
Starting point is 00:51:02 figure out what your intentions are and focus on what it is that you do want and then enjoy the friendships that you have. And then they'll just kind of keep coming. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Don't edit your personality. Being blonde and being director, you're going to find your people. I promise you. You will. And we like your energy. Yeah. I'm into it. Maybe we'd be friends. Yeah, your Chelsea Handler approved. Exactly. All right, Kristen. Thanks, Kristen.
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Starting point is 00:53:46 Biggie. You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable? Because I want to get confident. This is DJ Hester Prins. Music is Therapy. a new podcast from me, a DJ and licensed therapist that asks one simple question, who do you want to be and what's the song that can take you there? Music changes what you feel, and what you feel changes what you do, right?
Starting point is 00:54:06 That moment where a song shifts something inside you, that's where transformation starts. This year, I'm talking to experts across every area of life, like personal finance icon Gene Chatsky, New York Times journalist David Gellis, relationship legend Dan Savage, human-concernation. connection teacher Mark Groves and the man who sheet my ear more than anyone, Questlove. They'll bring the strategies. I'll pair them with the right records and will teach you how to use the music to make change stick. This isn't just a podcast. It's unconventional therapy for your entire year. Listen to DJ Hester Prins music is therapy on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
Starting point is 00:54:42 you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Kelly. And some of you may know me as Laura Winslow. And I'm Telma, also known as Aunt Rachel. If those names ring a bell, then you probably are familiar with the show that we were both on back in the 90s called Family Matters. Kelly and I have done a lot of things and played a lot of roles over the years, but both of us are just so proud to have been part of Family Matters. Did you know that we were one of the longest running sitcoms with the black cast? When we were making the show, there were so many moments filled the joy and laughter and cut up that I will never forget. Oh, girl, you got that right. The look that you all give me is so black.
Starting point is 00:55:21 All black people know about the look. On each episode of Welcome to the Family, we'll share personal reflections about making the show. Yeah, we'll even bring in part of the cast and some other special guests to join in the fun and spill some tea. Listen to Welcome to the Family with Telma and Kelly on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Hey, everyone. it's Ed Helms. And I'm Cal Penn, and we are the hosts of Earsay, the Audible and I Heart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am talking to film and TV critic, radio and podcast host, and Harry Potter superfan Rihanna Dillon to discuss Audible's full cast adaptation of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. What moments in this audiobook capture the feeling of the magical world best for you? or just stood out the most.
Starting point is 00:56:19 I always loved reading about the Quidditch matches, and I think the audio really gets it because it just plunges you right into the stands. You have the crowd sounds, like all around you. It is surround sound, especially if you're listening in headphones. Listen to Earsay, the Audible and IHeart Audio Book Club on the IHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back with the magical Caitlin Olson, who was so good at dishing out confidence to young girls today.
Starting point is 00:56:57 I love it. I love these young ladies. Come on. We have to build them up. I needed this. I know. I needed it too. I know.
Starting point is 00:57:05 I needed this when I was that age. Yeah. Thank you so much for coming on. Congrats on all of your success. I wish you the best. I can't wait to meet you in person one day. I can't believe we haven't met. I love you so much. I can't wait to meet you too. Thank you for everything you do. Very inspirational.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Thank you. Take care. Thank you. Bye, bye, guys. I just announced all my tour dates. It's called the High and Mighty Tour. I will be touring from February through June. So go get your tickets now. If you want good seats and you want to come see me perform, I will be on the high and mighty tour. Do you want advice from Chelsea? Write into Dear Chelsea Podcast at gmail.com. Find full video episodes of Dear Chelsea on YouTube by searching at Dear Chelsea Pod. Dear Chelsea is edited and engineered by Brad Dickert, executive producer, Catherine Law. And be sure to check out our merch at chelseahandler.com. Hi, I'm Dr. Priyanka Wally.
Starting point is 00:58:05 And I'm Hurricane de Bolu. It's a new year. And on the podcast's health stuff, we're resetting the way we talk about our health. Which means being honest about what we know, what we don't know, and how messy it can all be. I like to sleep in late and sleep early. Is there a chronotype for that or am I just depressed? Health stuff is about learning, laughing, and feeling a little less alone. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Ed Zittron, host of the Better Offline podcast.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And this January, we're going to go on the road to beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, to cover the Consumer Electronics Show, Tech's biggest conference. Better Offline's CES coverage won't. be the usual rundown of the hottest gadgets or biggest trends, but an unvarnished look at what the tech industry plans to sell or do to you in 2025. I'll be joined by David Roth at Defector and the writer Edward Onguizzo Jr. With guest appearances from behind the bastards Robert Evans, it could happen here as Gare Davis and a few surprise guests throughout the show.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Listen to Better Offline on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts from. When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on? Biggie. You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable? Because I want to get confident. This is DJ Hester Prynne's Music is Therapy, a new podcast from me, a DJ and licensed therapist, 12 months, 12 areas of your life. Money, love, career, confidence.
Starting point is 00:59:30 This isn't just a podcast. It's unconventional therapy for your entire year. Listen to DJ Hester Pryn's Music is Therapy on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, it's Ed Helms. And I'm Cal Penn, and we are the hosts of Earsay, the Audible and I Heart Audio Book Club. This week on the podcast, I am talking to film and TV critic, radio and podcast host, and Harry Potter super fan, Rihanna Dillon, to discuss Audible's full cast adaptation of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. What moments in this audiobook capture the feeling?
Starting point is 01:00:12 of the magical world best for you or just stood out the most. I always loved reading about the Quiddish matches and I think the audio really gets it because it just plunges you right into the stands. You have the crowd sounds like all around you. It is surround sound, especially if you're listening in headphones.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Listen to Earsay, the Audible and IHeart Audio Club on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. I actually drop better when I'm high. It heightens my senses, calms me down. If anything, I'm more careful. Honestly, it just helps me focus.
Starting point is 01:00:57 That's probably what the driver who killed a four-year-old told himself. And now he's in prison. You see, no matter what you tell yourself, if you feel different, you drive different. So if you're high, just don't drive. Brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council This is an IHeart podcast Guaranteed Human

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