Dear Chelsea - A Pretty Sleepy Bitch with Blair Socci
Episode Date: April 11, 2024Blair Socci joins Chelsea to talk about secret ayahuasca trips, why she’s happy she’s single, and her experience being an 0nlyfans mogul for exactly one day. Then: A sister thinks weed should be l...egalized - especially within her own family. A girlfriend treads too lightly when her boyfriend can’t keep it up. And a polyamorous experiment leaves a twenty-something newly divorced. * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at DearChelseaPodcast@gmail.com * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees. This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi, Katherine.
Oh, hi, Chelsea.
Welcome back to LA.
Oh, hello.
Shabbat shalom.
Chelsea, I have an update from one of our callers.
This is from Emily.
She called in on our Joel Kim
Booster episode a while back. She was having some difficulty getting her writing done,
and we gave her some advice. Emily says, Hi, Katherine and Chelsea. Update about my no-nonsense
writing habits that I've been improving in the last few months since I talked to you guys.
I actually ended up quitting my job and going back to school for graduate studies, and not surprisingly, that has really helped put me
back into the writing headspace I was first in when I started this series back in my undergrad.
I took Chelsea's suggestion, and I now dedicate the first hour or two of my day to writing,
and you were right. Not only does it feel less like a chore, but the quality of what I'm putting
out is a lot better. I'm now proud to report that the first three books in my series are done,
and the first two will be ready for beta readers in the next four to six weeks.
There we go! Yes! There we go!
My sister and I are trying to budget coming to see you soon,
so I'm looking forward to seeing you live again.
Thank you both so much.
I really love the advice, and continue to admire and religiously listen to the show. Emily. That's incredible. I know. Love it. Well, our guest
today is already on the line, but she's been named one of Variety's 10 comics to watch. And
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Hi, Blair.
Sucky, sucky, sucky.
Hi, Chelsea.
How are you?
Oh, cute.
You're so cute.
You are.
Well, we're happy to have you.
Rosebud Baker texted me.
She said, you have to have this girl Blair Sucky on.
I thought it was Sochi.
So it's Sucky, sucky, sucky.
And she was like, you're going to love her and she loves you. And I was like, oh my God, I love a young comedian that I'm not
familiar with. Oh, that's so nice. Yeah, of course. So it's so nice to meet you. It's so nice. I've
been such a fan for so long. I was like, this is just a thrill for me. So what's your story? Tell
me about yourself. Well, first I was reading that you got certified a thrill for me. So what's your story? Tell me about yourself.
I will.
First, I was reading that you got certified in a lot of different kind of wellness genres over COVID.
So you are certified.
What are you, a mindfulness instructor?
What are you?
Gosh, you know.
How do you identify, Blair?
Tell us.
I guess I identify as comedian.
But when we were in lockdown in L. in LA, like just things got so weird.
I just started taking online courses compulsively. I took two levels of breath work. I did TM. I did
tapping, you know, EFT tapping. I did Reiki. I still not sure what Reiki is.
No one is sure what Reiki is. I've also done Reiki and left more confused than when I arrived.
Yeah, but I just started taking courses.
Rosebud was like, we're going to have to tie you to the ground so you don't float away.
So what was your favorite thing that you took a course in or got certified in over COVID?
I guess breathwork was the first one that I did that sort of started it all because
I didn't know that breathwork that you could just your body could feel like that just from breathing.
It was really, really bizarre.
Who did you do it with?
I did it with these people called Revelation Breathwork. They have a lot of classes. But
yeah, I remember just being so shocked because we have
DMT in our spinal fluid. So I don't know. I know you've done psychedelics. I've dabbled myself.
And I was pretty shocked about how your body felt. You know, how did it feel?
Oh, I mean, it just feels like you're your whole body's vibrating like you're high. It's bizarre.
Ooh, yeah.
Have you ever tried it?
No, I'm not good at breathing. So I'm always a little put off. Like when I ski,
I always notice I hold my breath. When I ever have to get like a chiropractic adjustment,
they're like, you're not breathing. You're not breathing in your diaphragm. You're not.
And I'm like, yeah, I know. I don't, I'm not a good breather. So so breath work always like even meditation when I have to do like four breaths in and then four holds and then inhale
for four exhale for four even that for me is challenging so I probably need breath work more
than the average person I have to say I'm exactly the same way and I still resist doing breath work
and every other like person is always like are are you breathing? You know, and I resisted because it's almost like more laborious to me at this point than going to the
gym. Like you really have to be in the mood to do it. It's so physical. Yes, it is. It is physical.
Is this breathwork like different than what you would do typically when you're meditating? Is it
more intense? What's the experience like?
Well, meditating is just like sort of regular breathing.
And then like breath work
is this really physical breathing technique.
Where you're blowing in and out, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Huge inhales and huge exhales.
So in meditation, like you don't, yeah,
you're just supposed to breathe regularly
unless they'll be like, okay,
it's like a sometimes guided meditations
will go through a different form of breathing exercises. I wouldn't even call it breath work, but it's
almost just to calm you, you know, it calms your whatever that section of your brain is that I
can't think of right now because mine isn't on yet. Yeah. You know what's sick? I feel like a
lot of it is from just like this lifelong unconscious sucking in your stomach. And I'm
like, I think that's why I just don't
breathe that much without realizing it. Or I noticed sometimes if I'm in an uncomfortable
situation that I hold my breath, which is actually very funny because I obviously don't hold very
much back. But I find when I'm in an awkward or uncomfortable, I'm like, my breathing is off too,
because I've started to become a little bit more aware of my breathing in the hopes that I can improve upon it. Yet. I'm not really willing
to do any of the exercises that would help me. I know me too. Honestly, I, I, I don't do it
enough. I need to, I need to do it also. What about, when did you do ayahuasca?
Well, I did it most recently, two months ago. And how many times have you done it?
I've done it three times.
Oh, okay.
How about you?
Just one time.
I did it.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Well, I did it twice, actually, but it was for a special.
I was shooting for Netflix.
Oh, yeah.
And I did it there.
We went to Peru, and I had one night with my friends, and then I did the next night alone.
So you said three.
Like, how different was each experience?
I've done it three weekends. So
however, I guess, yeah, that's six nights. Yeah, I don't know how like, I, they say it finds you,
but someone I guess everyone would always say, like, don't ever do it in LA with white people,
you know? And I was like, Okay, I guess I'm not doing it till I make it to, you know, Peru. And then someone, a friend of a friend just like had a good experience.
And I went and yeah, it's funny that people always are like, whoa, you're like some druggie.
And I'm like, there's nothing recreational about it.
It is like the most hardcore.
It's work.
It feels like.
And did you, were each of the three experiences vastly different?
Yeah. Every single one was different, but all of them, I was, you know, shot into a different
universe. Tell me about the last one. What was it about? Like, what was the thesis?
I would say, well, this is going to get really deep and it sounds, whenever you're trying to
distill it down, people are like, okay, cuckoo. say is like I was like, oh, nothing's wrong with me.
That's what I learned. And it's like it's not even like I'm thinking every day something's wrong with me.
It's probably like an unconscious thing. But then I was like, oh, there's so much love.
Like, that's really what I felt. Yeah. Yeah. You have this overwhelming feeling of love and positivity for sure.
Yeah.
And I swear, like, I walked out of there with a different worldview that I think I had trying, was trying to grasp for a while.
Yeah.
It's not even positivity.
It's peacefulness that ayahuasca gives you.
Yeah.
You're like, you have a sense of peace about the world that you didn't have before, I would say.
Yeah, because there's a lot of just letting go
and sort of acceptance, I think, that happens
because you go into these dark crevices
and sort of, I feel like, aspirate those wounds
and then you leave and you're like, oh, I'm good.
Yeah, please don't use words like aspirate
on this podcast, okay?
I'm a medical professional
and I'm the only one who can throw around that kind of vernacular.
It's an accident.
Forgive me.
Did you have any, like, in the previous two sessions with ayahuasca?
I'm trying to avoid saying journey because that's another word that I don't want to hear.
Yeah, same.
Did you have any, like, mind-bending, like, epiphanies?
Yeah, I mean, there was crazy things.
Like, one, aliens came in my head and talked to me.
One, I went in my parents' bodies and felt how they felt about me. That was wild.
That's cool. Yeah. And I was like, whoa, they love me so much. Because sometimes you just
have a disconnect with those things. And then to be able to feel
someone's perspective was crazy. Did you tell them that? Did you talk to them about it? No,
no, they do not know that I have done ayahuasca. And so hopefully no one tells them. But you know,
well, they'll find out now. So that's what happens when you talk about it publicly. It gets back to
the people that you are hiding it from. So congrats on that
and welcome to my life. I think they're used to it, you know, with comedy. Yeah. Yeah. So tell me
about, are you single? I'm single. Yeah. Yeah. You seem single. How can you tell the hat? Happy,
you know, buoyant. I mean, people, yeah people yeah people don't single people don't get enough
credit for how fun and happy they are like they're fun oh thanks I think I mean a lot of married
people are fun too but it's a very distinguishable quality for a single person because they're just
up for more fun adventure like that kind of vibe I catch that that from people. Yeah, well, I feel the same about you. I mean,
I do hope I meet the right person. But I have just so far been like, I don't need anyone.
I'm like, I'm not gonna do it unless they're really, like, really, really, really good.
Yeah, unless they add a whole part of your life that you don't already have.
In addition, yeah, which hasn't yet been. I can't say that has totally been my experience, but you know.
What hasn't been your experience? A guy adding to your, to your life or?
Yeah. Which I have to take responsibility for, you know, people that I've chose,
but now I'm just like, oh, I just, yeah. I just want someone who's like brings peace, fun, you know, ads.
Yeah. And no drama.
Yeah.
I've been around a lot of drama lately and I'm pretty wiped out from it.
Isn't it so hard in this business?
Because like for me, I'm always like, I want to date a regular person.
And then I'm like, but when am I going to find a regular person when I'm doing comedy every night?
They're everywhere. That's why you have to get out of Hollywood.
That's where you meet regular people is away.
Yeah, it's just like doing stand-up all the time, you know?
I know, I know.
And fucking male comedians is just not on my bucket list.
No, it's not going to work for me.
No, no, no, no.
That is not hot or alluring at all.
Yeah, if you find the one who doesn't have gout,
I mean, I still don't think
it's worth it. Well, they either have gout or they're sober. So two things that don't interest
me. I don't want anyone with gout, which would indicate that you do drink. And I don't want
anyone sober. Yeah, 75% of comedians are sober now, I would say. I think that's my estimation.
And I also I'm like, I want to put out like a PSA like hey guys I've gotten away with using drugs and alcohol all this time and I didn't have to get sober so why are you
such a pussy yeah you quitters yeah quitters it's like if you just don't ever let anything if you
never ever abuse anything too much you never have to give it up so just remember that in your
alcohol and drug use journey like you have to give it up. So just remember that in your alcohol
and drug use journey, like you have to temper yourself. Sometimes you can't party. Sometimes
you can't drink for periods of time, or sometimes you have to tone it back, but always just be open
to that and be like, yeah, okay, I'll take it easy so that I don't ever have to quit. But you know
what? That's irresponsible to some degree, because I know a lot of our listeners are sober. And so a
lot of people do have an addiction and a disease. And so, you know, I want to respect that and also
remind people that I don't have that. Yeah, it's been interesting. I know when you're in your early
20s, you're like, Oh, my God, like, I can never be friends with sober people. And now I'm like,
literally, all my friends are sober, you know? Yeah, I know. It's the world of comedy. So do you, have you dated any comics?
You don't have to mention names. Yeah, I have dated comics. Those are sort of my few long-term
relationships in the, since I started, but not for a while. I've been off that train for a while.
And is it hard for you to, I mean, I guess it is hard for you to
meet regular guys. Well, I would say I'm a little shy. I'm also like a pretty sleepy bitch. And,
you know, just being on the road all the time. It's like whenever I have a day off, I'm not
really feeling like horny. I'm not really being like, wow, I can't wait to go meet a stranger
and ask him how many siblings he has, you know.
And then they find out I do comedy.
And then they ask me if I've ever heard of Bill Burr.
Tell me about it.
I mean, someone just invited me to go see Bill Burr at the Rogers Arena in Vancouver
because I'm in Whistler.
And I'm like, know me less.
I mean, I love Bill Burr, but it's like they immediately start educating you on your own
job. And you're like they immediately start educating you on your own job.
And you're like, okay, thank you.
But no, I'm trying to date now.
And I've actually been because I'm trying to change my attitude about it.
And I'm trying to enjoy it and like put on an outfit.
It's been fine.
It's been fun.
Nice guys, I guess.
So I was reading that you get trolled a lot on TikTok, that the people on TikTok you claim are very mean, which makes sense because they're all kids, aren't they? Yeah. I mean, I just sort of
enjoy it now, like what people say about my voice, them saying I sound like all the Rugrats at once.
But no, I wouldn't say I get trolled any more than anyone else, but I do have fun with it.
Any more than any regular white girl comedian who's pretty. Yeah, exactly.
So you started an OnlyFans account or is that a joke?
Oh, no, that's real.
It started as a...
I can't wait to subscribe.
I only had it for 24 hours because my reps made me take it down
because I auditioned for a lot of children's, you know, stuff.
But it started as a joke. I wrote twitter one day i was just like hi or something
i don't know what and i said like on this was two years ago before everyone had an only fans
and i was like do you have to hey on only fans you have to uh can you just do feet or do you
have to show whole you know innocent just having a good time and then it and then it somehow got like 50,000 retweets so
I was like oh yeah I got just I had no idea there was a market I'm starting one immediately and I
got one within 45 minutes and these people are freaks for feet I always thought that was sort of
a joke yeah there's a lot of stuff that goes on on OnlyFans that I didn't even know was a commodity
or a fetish so you could basically have it without showing your Pikachu or your asshole.
You can just show, I guess, your side boob.
It can be as simple as that or as niche as that.
Yes, thank you, Kathy.
I say this in the bit, but I made the title of my OnlyFans,
Blair Socky, ankles down, no hole.
So literally everything was below my ankles and it was doing quite well. But then all my dreams and hopes got crashed down when I had
to take it down after 24 hours. A shame. I know. Are you fucking kidding me? Who gives a shit
what anyone is doing on OnlyFans? What are we, the church?
I know. Yeah. America is getting really, really embarrassing and hard to deal with, quite frankly.
I know. Are you seeing these young kids now that say like they don't want sex scenes in movies? I was like, God, you guys are dorks. I've heard about that. They want to see like scenes with
friendships and stuff because that's what they don't have. Like that's their porn.
It's like they don't, you know, they're online.
So you think they want to see scenes with kids
because they don't have their own friendship?
Wait, what?
Yeah, they're like, we don't care about sex scenes
because they can see it all online.
So they're like, we don't really, that's boring.
And they really want to see like deep
and meaningful friendships.
Like that's what they really want to see in movies now.
Oh, wow.
It's so weird. Maybe that's headed, maybe that is headed in a good direction then. Maybe that's what they really want to see in movies now oh wow it's so weird maybe
that's headed maybe that is headed in a good direction then maybe that's very that's what
they're craving maybe that is a good thing maybe all the social media is good because it's taking
us back to where we need to go which is not where we are yeah I don't know where did you grow up
I grew up in Orange County oh well sorry well, sorry about that. And then I
started comedy in New York, which I didn't know I was going to start comedy. I moved there
to become a novelist in grad school and then just like accidentally started comedy.
Who are you friends with in the comedy world that I know besides Rosebud?
Well, yeah, me and Rosebud started together at the exact same time. We've been best friends
ever since. But oh, you know who else I had up here this weekend we're sydney marie and amina do you know
them amina amani those are all my girls i started with sid and marie too oh okay oh perfect yeah
they were the only black people on the mountain yesterday we got them a ski lesson and then we
took them to apre and amina was like i think think I could ski with you. She's like, look,
showing me her video of her skiing.
I'm like, no, no, Amina,
you have to fucking turn, okay?
Just because you skied straight for 30 seconds.
That doesn't mean you can ski on the terrain that we're skiing on.
But we had them,
they came on my Saturday night
and they spent two nights here
and yeah, they're ridiculous.
Oh my God, that's so cool.
Yeah, Catherine, we have to put them on.
I'm going to do a counseling session for them and their relationship
because they have a lot of beef between each other.
So let's book them as well.
I just really only should have comedians
on because they provide the most joy
and happiness. Those girls
are so much fun. They're the best.
Oh yeah, they're so funny.
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Okay, so we're going to take callers.
Catherine has people that are calling in for advice.
And, you know, we're just changing lives one life at a time here.
That's what we're doing. And it's pretty serious business.
I love it.
Blair, you're going to maybe help us hook some people up,
break up some marriages.
You know, we'll see what happens.
Perfect.
So our first caller is Sarah.
She is from New Jersey.
She says, Dear Chelsea, after a series of dumpster fire relationships and a lot of therapy to figure out how to break unhealthy dating patterns, I finally found an amazing guy. He's communicative,
empathetic, considerate, and loves making me happy. He has a great career, owns his home,
and is financially stable. He has a big circle, owns his home, and is financially stable.
He has a big circle of great friends, and his family is so sweet. It's only been five months
together, but I could really see myself marrying him one day. There's just one problem. Our sex
life is horrible. Our attempts at intimacy have been awkward, unsuccessful, and leave much to be
desired. I want this relationship to work, but his lack of experience and failure to launch make me Oh, yeah. That's really difficult. There's a lot of guys that can't get it up. What's going on?
What is this?
I think a lot of it's porn, but also could be depression.
Yeah. Hi, Sarah. We're just talking about your lack of
sex life. Hi, welcome to the podcast. Hi, thanks for having me. This is our special guest today,
Blair Saki. Hi, Sarah. So no sex at all? Did I hear that correctly? Limited, limited sex.
So penetration? So it seems like he's able to keep it up if we, if he's laying down. So we're limited
to me being on top, which is a lot of, it's a lot of work for me. How interesting. Yeah. What does
that mean that you can only keep it up while lying down? It's strange. So I don't know. I mean, it's been like a long process.
How long? Well, so we've been together for like six months. We've been having sex or trying to
have sex for like four. But he was like slow in the beginning. Like he was a slow mover. It took
a long time for him to kiss me. It took a long time for us to have sex for the first time.
And then I don't know. I thought at first, like,
he was just nervous. And there was always like an excuse or a reason. He was stressed out from work,
or it was a long week, or it's been a long time since he had sex or whatever it was.
So it's been a lot of attempts. We just can't, he can't keep it up.
I've had a lot of experience with this, but I usually just press on immediately
after that infraction because I don't have time for that. But I'm so curious as to what is going
on in society that men are having this issue. So it's funny that you say that, though, because
I've never had this issue with any of my boyfriends before. But I've also dated some
like real assholes that they have nothing to offer in my life romantically,
but they're great in bed. And now I have the exact opposite. Like I found my perfect unicorn
and he can't have sex with me. Well, is there any scenario where you can have him as your
boyfriend and just fuck other guys on the side? I mean, that seems like the best solution.
Yeah, I know. It's a tough one. Also, I mean,
if this is really the only issue, what about the pills? Like, just go to the doctor, guy.
Right. So that's something that we've talked about. Like, maybe go see a doctor and make
sure everything's going on. Like, everything's fine down there. He's very nervous around doctors and he hates doctors.
He's like insistent that he thinks it's in his head.
So he did offer to like go see a therapist, which is fine.
It's just it's less of an immediate solution to the problem.
Yeah, he could do both also, you know.
So the other issue, though, is that he has high blood pressure.
So he's on medication for that.
So I think there are some pills that you can't take when you are.
Well, there's Cialis, Cialis, Cialis, I think, Cialis and then Viagra.
And one of them is you can't take with a heart condition.
And I believe one of them you can.
I don't know that for sure.
Obviously, ask someone else.
Yeah.
But, you know, for men, you know, for men that they made a pill that can go along with their heart condition,
their serious heart condition. No problem. We'll make another one for that.
Yeah. You ladies wait forever on everything. I wonder if there's something herbal that he
could take, though. I mean, I'm sure you have tried some Googling as far as herbal stuff.
What about Earl Grey tea? Does that have you tried that? And that's kind of why I want to have him go see like a doctor so that he knows
what is safe to try and to take. But he's really insisting on he wants to see a therapist and go
down that route before he goes to see a doctor. I just don't know how hard I should push because,
you know, it's like it's his body, so I feel awkward about it.
Well, Sarah, did you mention when we talked, does he have some body dysmorphia stuff or
self-consciousness around his own body that maybe therapy would help unravel?
Yeah. He's been overweight for most of his life and he doesn't have a ton of experience with
women. I know he's only been with like a
handful of women. So I think that's part of it is he just gets in his own head because he wants to
be great at it. Like, I feel like he's sabotaging himself almost a little bit. But I don't know how
we get him out of that loop. Maybe you guys should do mushrooms together. I mean, they're all good suggestions,
but I think like you're clearly into him. You've been with him for six months,
right? You care about him. I mean, you can still go the distance a little bit further
to try and find out like exactly what it is, but I think he should be more willing to see a doctor
in conjunction with a therapist so that you can get the ball rolling because six months is a long time
to be with someone and not having like a healthy sex life with them. Yeah, I would agree. And don't
diminish your needs because of his. Like you're meeting him more than halfway by being on top all
the time. By being okay with this whole thing, right? A lot of people wouldn't have stayed.
They would have been like, oh, wait,
you're not having, we're not having sex?
All right, I'm out.
And it's been six months
and it's not been as successful as you would want it.
I think he should be willing to like go the distance
a little bit, you know, deeper,
not just say I'm going to see a doctor.
I mean, a therapist, because you're right.
That isn't a quick solution.
That's a long-term solution.
Yeah.
You know, taking it step-by-step, ruling out like, okay, is it an emotional issue? Is it a physical issue?
And like going step by step down the line. The other thing I want to ask too is, are you guys
thinking like kids in the future? Because, you know, in addition to being a lack of pleasure,
this could be really problematic for that if he doesn't get this figured out.
Right. And that's, he actually really wants kids. I'm sort of undecided on it, but he really wants to have at least one kid.
And that's sort of something that I've brought up to him is like we should kind of like maybe
that's another reason why we should get this checked out now so that we know if that's
possible for our future or not. Right. Right. Because sometimes it takes a little trying over a period of time
rather than just a one and done.
Yeah, I don't think you take off right now.
I think you give it, you know,
a little bit more time.
And I like what Catherine said, you know,
just like issue by issue,
like, okay, rule out this, rule out that.
But you don't have to do that
literally once at a time.
You know, you can do that
in a succession of things.
Exactly, exactly.
You don't have to wait until he's in therapy for six months to be like, okay, now you can do that in a succession. Exactly. You don't have to
wait until he's in therapy for six months to be like, okay, now we're going to try the doctor.
Exactly. You should be like a little bit more adamant that he tried that more, you know,
sooner than later. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like there's several different layers to it,
but I think the most important thing is that he's working on it and taking initiative to work on it.
Yeah, he is. And that's's he did go ahead and schedule a therapy
appointment it was like a bunch of things that sort of happened that the therapist said she
wasn't a good fit for him the first time and then he had like a work trip come up that he had to
like a meeting that he had to be part of that conflicted with the second time he was supposed
to go see the therapist and then he just recently had somebody really close in his family pass away. So it's sort of all on the
back burner right now. So I also don't know like how long I should sort of wait before pushing the
issue again, because I definitely want to be sensitive to the fact that he just lost somebody
and he's dealing with grief. But I don't know. Do you have any advice on that? Well, I mean, you can be sensitive
to that, but I mean, no, I don't. I honestly, I wish I did because you can be sensitive to that,
but like, it just seems like a world of excuses. Like, you know, people can have sex and grief.
People can, you know, it's like anything he can use to make an excuse for him and
his inability to perform. I think at this point he's going to take. Yeah. So I kind of would say, no, that's not a great excuse. You know,
I mean, unless he's sitting every day in grief, is he sitting there mourning every single day?
No. Right. So no, I don't think so. And listen, we talked about this on our podcast, like grief is
something to always
be respected, but it's not something that takes up your entire day. It comes in bursts. It comes
in waves. Yes, the first few weeks and months after someone very close to you died, it is
something where you could be almost handicapped in terms of being yourself and being able to
physically be out there in the world. But as far as losing
someone you love, that comes in waves and it's not an excuse really for anything. It's a temporary
kind of pause you can put on things, but no, I don't think so.
And seeing a therapist during this time is probably something that's going to be beneficial
anyway.
Yes.
Yeah. So, I mean, I'm excited for him to do that. You know, I'm in therapy. I hope
he gets all the help he needs to feel better about himself, but I don't know that I'm convinced that
that's what the issue is. I don't know that it's a mental thing. I don't know. I mean, I feel like
I should just kind of push a little bit more for him to go see a doctor. I think so. I think so.
Cause out of it's a, it's about respecting your relationship. You know, he needs to respect your relationship too. It's not just about him and his problems. It's also
about you because you're in the relationship. Yeah. Yeah. Pleasure aside, like I just,
there's like an intimacy factor that I feel like is missing from the relationship that I know we
both want. And he's very generous, like in the bedroom. So don't get me wrong. Like, it's not like that. Well, he better be.
What's he going to be selfish and not able to perform?
Yeah, I mean, otherwise you're just friends.
And also it's like, that's pretty early on to be dealing with that, you know?
So, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, do you feel like you have like what you're going to do?
Do you know what you're going to do now?
I feel like I definitely have to bring it up again about him seeing a doctor in conjunction
with going to therapy.
But I guess my concern is that at this point, like I'm so afraid of like making it worse
or saying something like insensitively that I don't even know how to handle the situation.
And when we're like in this
situation, I sort of just shut down. So like, do it like, I guess, do I address it when we're not
in this situation? Yeah, don't address it in bed. No, I agree with that. Don't address it in bed.
But I think it listen, it's very good that you are thinking about this, because a lot of people
would be like, this is enough. I don't need the sex. It's very good that you know what you need,
and that you're asking for it. So that's positive already. And I think you don't say it in
the bedroom. You say it to him in a loving conversation when you're talking about therapy.
Hopefully, you know, bring up the topic of therapy, bring up the topic of your therapist
and what you've been thinking about. And that in order for you, you know, not like in an ultimatum
way to phrase it or frame it, but like, you want to be
sexual with him. You like him so much. You want to have a deeper intimacy with him. The possibilities
are endless for how close you guys can become once you have that kind of sexual intimacy and like
fun play time. I hate when people talk about sex as play, but I said that. And, you know, like all
of those things, but also like, I actually need more
of an effort on your behalf to try and figure this out. I'm here and I'm waiting and I'm totally
willing to figure it out with you. But I actually need you to be a little bit more proactive saying
you're going to see a therapist isn't an immediate solution. And what if there is an immediate
solution? You know, we need you to see a doctor, maybe we can figure it out in the meantime,
and then find out, you know, you can get Viagra, you can get Cialis or whatever pairing is best for his medication that he's on. And just say, you need just him to demonstrate a little bit more initiative in order for you to feel secure about where you're headed.
Yeah, it's time to move from like, hey, do you think maybe you should see a therapist or a doctor or this to like, this is an issue and it has a solution. And let's take the steps to find that solution. I like that. That's a, that's a good
point. I could phrase it that way. The front wheel of this conversation is your desire to be with him
in a relationship long term. Yeah, definitely. And I think it'll make both of us feel more
comfortable. It's like every time we have this awkward interaction, it just don't, you like, you don't know where to go after that.
No, I know. It's so awkward. I get it. I have been there, believe me.
And not with someone I really cared about, but it was some with plenty of people I didn't.
Exactly. I just feel like so much good stuff going stuff going on here like I don't just want to give
up on it I want to work on it no I love it female empowerment all the way you're asking for what you
need and you're being firm about it and you're already getting a lot but you're not getting
everything you need and you should get everything you need especially in the in the dynamic of this
relationship and he needs to meet your effort because you're you know being extremely compassionate
and understanding and everything yeah yeah trying to be and he needs to go your effort because you're, you know, being extremely compassionate and understanding and everything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Trying to be.
And he needs to go down on you a lot.
A lot.
All right, Sarah.
Yeah.
Thank you so much for calling in.
Thank you.
Bye, Sarah.
Good luck.
Thanks for calling in.
Bye. That reminds me of a time when I was in New Zealand performing and I had met this guy on a boat and I invited him to New Zealand to see my show.
And then I saw him off the boat, out of context, and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, in Auckland.
And he showed up and I was like, I can't fuck this guy.
Like, I just can't do it.
And I had never had sex with him. We just like fooled
around. He was like one of the crew on this boat that my friend or I chartered.
Oh, that's hot.
Yeah. He was a crewman. And then when he was out of his crew outfit, it was not hot. I was like,
they were like Cavaricci jeans or something. And I just remember looking at his body and being like,
or no, his outfit. And I was like, oh God, like, no. And so I brought him and he had come to Auckland to see me. And I was like, I have to get out of here. Like, I can't sleep
with this guy. And so we went up to my hotel room and I'm like, Oh, and he just went down on me like
five times. Exactly. And I was like, uh, that's a wrap. Like, I can't even let you do that again.
It's too much.
And then I checked out of my own suite. I checked out of my own hotel suite,
gave him the suite so I could just get out of his hair and pretended I had to go home to LA for an emergency rehearsal for like the VMA awards or whatever the fuck I was doing.
I was, I mean, it was, and then, yeah. So yeah, guys, I love when they were like,
well, he's very generous. Like That's like saying someone's like, of course he's generous in bed.
Can't fuck you.
She was patient.
She's a good person.
Yeah.
No, I know.
Well, women are patient.
Yeah.
It took me a long time to not think it was me or that I was too intimidating.
Men do get nervous.
They have to perform.
We don't have to get an erection.
We just have to sit there and take it.
You know what I mean?
We don't really have to perform if we don't feel like it.
So they do have an added pressure.
It is interesting that it seems to be an issue more in recent years for all men than it has been.
So something's going on societally.
And I'm sure it has to do with social media or sex or
porn or whatever. Right. Like Blair was saying with porn. Yeah. And just like a lower overall
quality of health. I feel like we're all like sedentary sitting inside at screens. It's not
like outside, like chopping wood, developing, you know, healthy muscle in the sun. Well,
speak for yourself, Blair. No, I saw you on, I saw you in your bikini. I was like, this is incredible.
This woman is out in the air just enjoying life. Oh, my God.
That's right. Well, our next caller is Hayden, and she is 26. It's a bit of a, you know, for lack of a better term, a journey.
So I'm going to summarize. But Hayden is 26. She was with her husband since she was 14.
She was a bit unsure about her sexuality, and so they decided to bring other women into the
bedroom. Her husband cheated and then, you know, convinced her they could work it all out. But then
an opportunity arose,
she says, with one of her closest friends, and they did start having threesomes.
Well, as we can assume, the husband and best friend wound up kind of running off together.
He moved in with her the night she confronted him about sleeping with her best friend without her.
And so she feels like none of this should have
happened. She's angry and heartbroken. And meanwhile, they're now going on trips and
doing things that were originally planned for the two of them and just openly enjoying their
life together. So she says, how do I move forward? How do I trust anyone ever again?
I want to be my best self and get healthy before starting to date again. But I'm a human and I'm
lonely and I miss the companionship so much. I liked being married, but even just being someone's girlfriend
seems so far away. I've done a lot of hookups, but I'm not satisfied in that realm. Hayden.
Hi, Hayden. Hi. Nice to meet you. Hi. Hi, Hayden. That's Blair. Hi, Blair. I'm so sorry that that
happened to you. Thank you.
It's been a rough ride.
When did this happen?
This happened at the very end of June is when we separated.
And they're still together.
And are you divorced or what?
Yeah, we're legally divorced now.
And yes, they are still together.
Yeah, that hurts a lot.
Yeah.
And are you in therapy?
I am. Yes, thankfully. And how is that helping you? Therapy that hurts a lot. Yeah. And are you in therapy? I am. Yes, thankfully.
And how is that helping you? Therapy is helping a lot, just realizing there was a lot of other
unhealthy things throughout the relationship. And being so young and getting together definitely
created a dynamic that as an adult, I don't think I want. Yeah, those are all good things to
recognize. It's funny when things like this happen, you realize like it's not that that's not the only incident. It's always something
deeper and that there was already a lack of connection or trust or, you know, something
wasn't right to begin with. But I think it's these things that happen to us in our lives
are big tests for us to see if we can level up and we can meet the moment. And it's always
interesting to see how different people handle these kind of emotional takedowns that we
experience. And you're in therapy, you now have some distance and time from it, not as much as
you're going to get and as much as you want, I'm sure. But you have enough distance to even
recognize that the relationship wasn't what you thought it may have been. You're divorced, your kind of side of the street is
pretty clean. You didn't cause any of this disruption, you kind of participated in something
that ended your marriage. And I think that you learned a lot. And that moving forward, you're
going to have all this whole new kind of toolkit, especially with all the things you're picking up
from therapy, which I'm sure are vast, right? All of the different ways to deal with stress or the ways to deal with sadness and
the aloneness. Because right now you're missing something that you really didn't have to begin
with. You thought you had and you can have with someone else now that you're more aware and more
tuned into what you need in a relationship. Like, how do you now feel about moving forward
in a relationship, opening up the relationship
and having threesomes?
Would you do that again?
No, never again.
Right, so you know, I mean,
this is a very common thing that happens.
It's not the reason why your relationship had its demise,
but it's a very common thing that happens.
And I think you have to like look at this time as like,
okay, I'm like, it's almost like an armor, but it's not very common thing that happens. And I think you have to like look at this time as like, okay, I'm like, it's almost like an armor,
but it's not a defensive armor.
It's like a protective or like you're filling yourself up
with all the tools and all like the energetic vibrations
you need to move forward into your life
in a more positive, healthy, and more joyful direction.
Like that's done and that's over.
And thank God it's over
because now you can open up
to the possibilities of everything else. And I would really encourage you to try to start meditating
in order to stay in the moment that you're in, instead of thinking about all of the stuff that
happened in the past or what's possible in the future, because as present as you can be is going
to be the biggest kind of therapeutic aid in moving forward. As present as you can be is going to be the biggest kind of therapeutic aid in moving
forward. As present as you can be, whether you're upset one day or you're happy the next day,
or you have a bad date or you have a good date, be present with all of those emotions because that
takes you in to the moment you're in. And then the past and the future kind of become irrelevant.
That's such good advice, honestly.
Yeah. So I think download a meditation app if you don't
have one already. That is really about mindfulness and being present. Because I have to I was just
writing about this in my book, like the most blissful moments I've experienced in my life
were because I was paying attention to what was happening. Good and bad. Yeah, right. Yeah. And
I think when you have a big betrayal like that, it's really sometimes it's it's much more difficult not to be like they did this to me.
And then I think like whenever I've been really, really hurt after a breakup, I go into sort of like Avengers mode where I'm just like, OK, how can I make myself happy?
What what have I been wanting to do that I haven't gotten to?
What trip have I been wanting to do? What goal have I been wanting to do that I haven't gotten to? What trip have I been wanting to do?
What goal have I been wanting to?
What have I been wanting to write?
And just like try and fill up that vacuum too of like, you know, reminding myself what
makes me happy, trying new stuff, like trying to bring newness into my own life.
Like even though you're sad, find things that can bring you joy and
make you happy. And having been with your husband since you were, what, 14? 14, yeah.
You grew up in this way where you were, like, figuring out who you were with him. You know,
it was always in the context of this other person. Now you get to figure out what you like,
what does bring you joy without another
person? Like what's your straight up like, this is kind of fun, you know, discovering that on a
day to day basis, I think is going to be really a revelation if you pay attention as as Blair and
Chelsea were saying. Yeah, definitely. I mean, it's been hard, but I have learned a lot. And I
do think in a lot of realms, I'm happier on this side than, than I was looking back, but.
And you're only going to get happier. Like you're getting happy and now you're going to get happier
and enjoy this singledom. You're not going to be single forever. It's rare that anybody is.
So enjoy this time, getting to know yourself and invest in yourself with everything that Blair said,
you know, books and exercise and finding out what interests you and, you know,
whatever that is, art or culture or fucking women's volleyball, whatever you're into,
just get into it. You know what I mean? And pour yourself into that because you're going to get so
much back from actually like finding out who you are now that you don't have this person that is
like making up half of your personality, so to speak. Yeah, you're still
so young, like you can fully reinvent yourself if you feel like it, you know, you can make it
whatever you want it to be. Yeah, that's very true. I'm just trying to figure out what that
looks like, what exactly I want, but I just have to give it time. Give it time, give it space and
be very gentle with yourself. But it's like, you know, start this meditation practice and just do this every morning just to ground yourself for the day and be like, okay,
today's another day where I'm going to find out something new about myself. Like set that kind of
intention for yourself. And if you practice, you know, like I promised you after two weeks,
you're going to start to feel differently. There's going to be a shift in you. It's impossible not
to feel it when you really dedicate yourself to something. And I think that's just what you need.
Okay. After this, I's just what you need. Okay.
After this, I will download one for sure.
Okay.
I love it.
Keep us posted, okay?
I will.
Thank you guys so much.
Bye, Hayden.
Thanks for calling in.
Bye, Hayden.
Bye, guys.
My brother's name is Hayden, and I really had a heart attack for a second when he said
Hayden.
I was like, uh-oh.
We're doing an intervention.
He's going to confront you about your ayahuasca use.
He thinks you've done it too many times.
I was like, wow, this child is bad.
I know.
Wait till you wait till your parents hear this.
They're calling in next.
Well, our next caller is Jane.
And Blair, are you somebody who smokes weed at all?
Since we just want to tell your parents everything.
Yeah, I'm a gummy girl sometimes.
Blair, have you ever done anal?
I think that's also something we want to make sure your parents know about.
Yes.
I haven't.
I don't think I'm going to get there, but who knows?
You don't think you'd like that?
Okay, perfect.
Okay, great.
Jane says, Dear Chelsea, my sister-in-law is the worst.
My brother and this nightmare have been married for seven years now, and they have three beautiful
children whom I adore.
My mom, sister, brother, and I have always been very close.
My sister-in-law seems to resent this aspect of our family as she grew up in a very different
situation, leaving her with some serious attachment issues.
She's very,
very attached to my brother. Although to be fair, my brother is a fucking catch. He had his years of overdoing it when he was drinking and a bit of a temper, but he's a really great guy that any girl
would be lucky to have. In the last year or two, my brother has stopped drinking, which has been
great for him and for their relationship. He has, however, started up a new habit of using marijuana.
I'm the youngest in my family and have always been a big fan of the weed and was looked down upon because of it. He says he's much calmer and present with his family, three little kids,
and doesn't fly off the handle when he's frustrated. He and his coworker will enjoy
an end-of-day joint on the way home to unwind and relax before they both have to go home to
kids and questions, responsibilities, and all the things. His outwardly liberal wife is now giving
him an ultimatum, family or the weed. My brother has obviously said he would pick his family every
time, but how can we help educate her on marijuana's benefits? He's not coming home hammered
drunk and pissed off. He's floating on a cloud of happiness. Please help. I'd love for them to call it quits, but for the sake of their family, I'd like for her
to get some education and open her mind to the ways it's benefiting their relationship.
Hi, how are you?
I'm good.
How are you?
I'm good.
Thank you.
This is Blair, our special guest today.
Hello.
Yeah, she does need to get educated on marijuana.
What's the best education for marijuana, Catherine?
I mean, there are a to get educated on marijuana. What's the best education for marijuana, Catherine?
I mean, there are a lot of documentaries on this.
There is Clearing the Smoke on YouTube,
The Cannabis Question,
and The Grass is Greener on Netflix,
Weed the People, which I think is also on YouTube,
and the CBC, which is great, of course.
They have a series called The Nature of Things, and they have an awesome episode
called Science and Cannabis. You know, I would encourage her to kind of take a look at some of
these things and reach her own conclusions. I mean, it's kind of everywhere. It is kind
of everywhere. I would even say How to Change Your Mind by Michael Pollan is a great book.
It's more about psychedelics, but he does address weed and how it affects your brain specifically.
That would be a good resource.
Yeah.
She needs like some sort of wake-up call.
Like her husband quit drinking to smoke weed is so much better.
Yeah.
It's better for you in every way. What's her problem?
Relax.
Yeah.
That's the biggest thing with her.
Like she just needs to relax.
She's so uptight and she's so worried about what
other people think. And we are from a pretty small town. So it's like, you don't know what
anyone else's lives are like. Your friend's husbands that you see on social media having
these great lives and whatever, your husband's not doing anything terrible. And she just needs to relax.
Yeah. I mean, refer to Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey. Like,
do they seem like threatening people? They're both stoners.
I mean, start with that. And I mean, everyone smokes weed now. It's just so lame to have to
even educate somebody about the benefits of marijuana, whatever. I mean, is she happy that
he quit drinking? Oh yeah yep because i think
that was um one thing that she also did the whole ultimatum thing like quit this or me and the kids
are gone and it's like that's just not the way to have a relationship that's not healthy to
constantly be like do this or i'm gone or, they just need to go to like therapy.
Yeah, they do. They do need to go to therapy. Do they go to therapy?
No, she used to and they just really need to.
Yeah, they should go to couples counseling to discuss it because it's not like he's smoking five joints a night, right? Right. Yeah. And he's even cut down since I wrote in,
but she's so rigid and everything. Sounds like she needs to smoke a little weed,
actually. Yes. I do wonder if there is, this may be something that she changes her mind about
over time. It may not be, but I wonder if it's something that you can kind of drop into
conversations about like some of the benefits. I mean, people use this as medicine. It is something
that reduces anxiety for a lot of people. And I wonder, people use this as medicine. It is something that reduces anxiety for
a lot of people. And I wonder maybe if it's about educating yourself on some of the specific
studies that have been done that you can kind of drop into conversation here and there about like,
oh, here are some of the benefits. Yeah. My mom was diagnosed with lung cancer a few years ago,
and she's gone through chemo and radiation and
used medical marijuana. She used RSO oil for a while. And so it's like, how is this judgment
coming to my brother? Can you have a conversation with her or no? Will that not go well?
I'm not usually the one that brings it up. It's my sister she will bring it up and i guess we've
been avoidant of that because they they have kind of butted heads this entire time yeah i have older
brothers and you know they're married and everything and and what i've learned is that
it never goes well like the more you stay out of their relationship, like the better it is, because if
anyone feels ganged up on, you know, if she's feeling ganged up on, cause you know, you can
feel those things sometimes. So I, I don't know if that's helpful, but maybe, maybe you're just
like, c'est la vie, you know, like they'll, they'll work it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't
sound like you have the relationship to have the conversation with her.
Excuse me.
I would love to educate you on the incredible benefits of marijuana so you can let my brother
just pop that J on his way home.
Is there anything specific that she objects to or does she she just doesn't like the whole
idea?
That's what makes it even weirder.
It's like this kind of just popped up when he started.
Seems like a control thing.
And she's never outwardly said anything that she disagrees about it with.
It's just like the minute he did it, it's wrong.
How about next time she comes over, you just have like platters full of joints everywhere?
I like that idea.
Awesome. Well, thank you for calling in, Jane. Thank you. Okay. Take care.
Good luck, Jane. Okay. We're going to take a break and we'll be right back.
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Blair, thank you for coming on today.
It was such a pleasure to meet you.
I hope I see you again in person.
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This was just a thrill. I'm so happy I got to hang out with you. I love you. Me too. I love you too,
honey. Thank you so much. Thank you. Bye. Okay, thank you. Okay, guys. So for stand up, I'm coming
to Maricopa, Arizona, April 12. And then Brooks, California is April 13th and we added a second show in Sydney
and we added a second show in Prior Lake Minnesota which is now going to be May 24th we added the
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dates in Hawaii, guys. I'm coming to Hawaii on July 19th to Kahului. I'm going to be at Kahului.
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