Dear Chelsea - Adult Baby Doll with Fortune Feimster
Episode Date: October 27, 2022Chelsea is joined in-studio this week by her pal Fortune Feimster. They discuss Fortune’s coming out in her 20’s and dating all the wrong people, why Chelsea Lately was one big frat party, and why... Fortune’s marriage works. Then: A lesbian couple struggles with one set of parents’ refusal to attend their wedding. And a toxic marriage threatens to keep a daughter from her family’s Thanksgiving dinner. * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at DearChelseaProject@gmail.com * Executive Producer Nick Stumpf Produced by Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brandon Dickert * * * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees. This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Follow us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, Katherine.
Hey, Chelsea.
Oh, we are fresh off the boat from Mallorca.
We took a sailboat all the way there from the Pacific Coast.
So that took us, oh, God, I don't know.
I mean.
Tres Meses?
Yes. You had meses? Yes.
You had to row significantly.
I came home and I told my belle and Felix, who work with me at my house with me in concert because I'm doing so much.
I told them that my Spanish was deteriorated in Spain.
I think the last week was the worst because I had three full Spanish speakers there.
Well, you also speak Spanish.
And I realized just how
basic and fundamental my Spanish is. So I told them no more speaking English at home. This over
only speaking Spanish from now on. And so now I can't understand anything the fuck that's happening.
I don't know what she's talking about. But I were sticking with it. And I'm learning.
My bell is also duolingo now for you.
Yeah, well, yeah, I'm just like, listen, we're just going to fucking figure it out.
She loves to correct me, so it's perfect.
This is a huge opportunity for her to put me in my place.
It's like a total status shift.
So I am winding up my stand-up tour.
Vaccinated and Horny is coming to a screeching halt at the end of the year.
I have my last dates coming up.
And these are the last opportunities you have to
also buy merch from the website, ChelseaHandler.com. If you want Vaccinated and Horny merch or
captain's hats that say, we're the captains now for women only, or t-shirts for men in your family
that say, I'm sorry, because they should be. I only have a few dates left. I'm going to be in
Wheatland, California this Saturday night.
And then I'm going to Tucson, Arizona next weekend.
November 5th is Tucson.
November 6th is Colorado Springs.
And then Rockford, Illinois.
Minneapolis.
Rosemont, Illinois.
Two shows in Tampa.
A show in Fort Myers, Florida.
Daytona Beach.
Hollywood, Florida.
Concord, New Hampshire.
Worcester, Mass. Wilkes-Barre,
Pennsylvania, Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. There, I said it. And then San Diego and Riverside,
California, and then Baltimore, Maryland. And then my very last date is December 16th in Redding, Pennsylvania. So this will be the last of me performing.
How do you feel about that?
Very relieved and excited. I mean, I have had a really fun time touring. I like my schedule.
Yeah. Three months on, one month off, three months on. And now these last couple dates,
I just have like two shows each weekend, which is totally doable. That's nice. And so now
my special will come out. Now I can use these shows to come up with my next hour.
Excellent. I just don't know what the fuck I'm going to talk about. Do you try out like new material as you're sort of closing
out a show? Yeah. I've been trying out some new material. Yeah. I mean, it's hard to come up with
an hour. So I've got to really use these dates to do it because I have all the time. You know
what I mean? Like I could stay on stage for two hours and screw around. But I've been doing this
set for so long. I'm sorry I can't stop touching my breasts. I have this weird sports bra on today
that's like turning them into one single breast.
Yes, and I don't like that feeling.
And then they also look like they're coming.
It's not the right look.
I kind of got a uniboob going on too,
but it's more because of my shirt,
like the design on my shirt,
which is, what's his name?
Eddie from Iron Maiden brand.
But yeah, he's kind of is that a real is
that a real person I mean I wish so I love spooky things I'm also hosting the Critics Choice Awards
you guys that's exciting on January 15th yes which will be aired on what network is that CW
I'm not sure CW great yeah but I do want to talk about something Catherine that I learned about
you I want to say first I forgive you because on the way over, I forgot I had a COVID test
because I'm doing a TV show in the morning.
The Talk.
Oh.
And I made a little lettuce wrap with some ground turkey and some onions.
Okay.
And normally, when we're doing a podcast, I wouldn't do that.
You know what I mean?
I wouldn't have onions when I'm coming in to speak so closely and sit so closely next
to you. But as you revealed over our vacation in Mallorca, you bring hard boiled eggs onto fucking airplanes as a snack.
Not two or three, like nine.
No, I am known for a bag of eggs.
In a Ziploc container.
There was a photo that her husband Brad
showed, supplied me with. This is after my foot breakdown because of people and their bare feet
on planes. I'm still having a massive influx of pictures of feet out on airplanes. And I just want
to let everyone know, if they're wearing socks, that is not as offensive as a barefoot. It is the barefoot that is not clevered or clean or hygienic.
And it's inappropriate.
It's disgusting.
And they're putting their feet on stuff, like on the screens.
Some people are putting them on the ceiling.
Some people are putting them on the windows.
It's just gross to have your bare feet exposed.
And also on a dirty dirty dirty vessel like an airplane
but back to you
I am flabbergasted
or I was
flabbergastado
because I cannot believe
that you would think that that
is acceptable that is the worst
smell there is sulfur
I know it's pretty bad I have
been known to bring a full bag of eggs on a plane, you know, to share with people.
Share.
No one wants to share.
It's just like a perfect little shot of protein.
I know.
It's pretty bad.
It's pretty heinous.
But if you want the protein, get something else.
Protein bars make you fart on planes, I'm convinced. Well, they make you fart anyway and on planes. But the good protein Well, protein bars make you fart on planes,
I'm convinced.
Well, they make you fart anyway,
and on planes,
but the good protein bars
actually don't make you fart.
But there's other ways to get protein,
and you need to find out what they are.
I do love a beef jerky.
Okay.
Well, that's not that great either,
by the way, that smell.
So that's better than hard-boiled eggs, though.
I mean, eggs you need to eat right away
so the smell is gone. And they're not warm. And I love hard-boiled eggs, though. I mean, eggs you need to eat right away so the smell is gone.
And they're not warm.
And I love hard-boiled eggs.
I have a whole refrigerator of them because that's where they belong, in the refrigerator.
At home, not on travel.
Speaking of hard-boiled eggs, I have my longtime girlfriend here today.
Her name is—well, actually, why don't you say a few words and see if anybody can recognize your voice before it.
Does anyone know who this is?
Chelsea's girlfriend.
She's not only my girlfriend.
She's also in a marriage, and I'm part of their thruple.
We're a thruple.
This is the theme in my life is I'm a third wheel to lots of different couples.
You're the best thruple.
I know.
I know.
Because I put out left, right, and center.
Well, so far, I haven't experienced that.
No, no, no.
We're working on it. We haven't ever had sex No, no, no. We're working on it.
We haven't ever had sex yet, but we're still in a throuple.
We're in an emotional throuple.
It's Fortune Feimster, everybody.
You may know her from,
you would probably have been introduced to her on Chelsea Lately
where I was introduced to her,
and now the whole world gets to enjoy her.
And she just walked into my podcast office
or whatever the fuck this is.
And I was like,
oh, fortune. I was
grabbing her leg. I'm like, this feels
smaller than normal. And you
revealed that you'd lost 40 pounds
because she played a CIA
agent. CIA.
CI. Not a
clitoral investigator. A
central intelligence officer. central intelligence agent.
Agent, yeah.
And her most recent, is it a Netflix show?
Yeah, it's going to be on Netflix.
It's with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Oh, is that how you say his name?
I don't know.
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I have a very thick accent.
I don't pronounce anything right.
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
It's a very tricky name to say.
So we'll just call him Big Arnold.
Big Arnold.
How was that?
How was working with Arnold?
It was awesome.
I was out in Toronto for five months filming.
Yeah.
And it was all action stuff.
I was, you know, I'm an action gal.
I know.
I was running.
I had a gun.
I was doing all that stuff.
Wow.
Yeah, you'll be very turned on.
I can't wait to see that.
So six months or five months in Toronto, I saw you had to cancel some gigs because you got trapped there.
I had to cancel my European tour because production got extended for almost a month.
Oh, yeah.
And you also have a new Netflix special that just came out.
Congratulations on that. Thank you also have a new Netflix special that just came out. Congratulations on that.
Thank you. It's called Good Fortune. What a stretch.
Why didn't you do Fortune Cookie?
I don't know. I didn't think about it.
Maybe for the next one.
The next one.
Yeah. If you just put your name in everything like I put my name in everything.
It works.
Nobody could tell the difference between one thing or the next.
It works. Yeah. It's my new hour. I'm very happy with it.
Yeah, it's fucking awesome.
Thank you.
I shot it in Chicago
while I was filming this action show.
So when do you think
you'll be going back on the road?
I'm going to do, like, club dates
in November and December
around California
and then announce a big tour
starting the end of January.
Oh, great.
I'll hit a bunch of new cities
with new material. So if you have any ideas of things I should talk about, let me know. Oh, great. I'll hit a bunch of new cities with new material. So
if you have any ideas of things I should talk about, let me know. Oh, shit. I know. I'm in the
same boat. I'm just wrapping up this tour and I'm like, okay, I have to come up with some new
material. And I'm like, I should be doing it now since I already taped my special. But since my
special isn't out yet, I just keep holding on to the same show. I'm like, I don't have fucking
time for any creative juices right now.
That's the hardest part about putting out a special is writing a whole new act.
I know.
You're like, I just finished.
I know.
I know.
Tell me about you.
Because when I, there are certain comics that like to run their hour before they tape it
like 200 times.
I can't do that.
I like run it 70 or 75 times.
And then I'm theater dates after I've run it in clubs.
So maybe like 85 altogether or 95.
But I can't go past 100 because then I'm just sick of my own material.
This one I did a lot.
I did 100 cities and about 160 shows.
Wow.
That's a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
15 of those were post filming so 15 shows right and were you able to
come up with some new material while you were doing those new shows or did you just yeah that's
it right now and then you have to and then you go back on the road and you have to stretch five
minutes into an hour you're like whoa shit I know isn't it funny every single time it's the same
thing with a book every single time I'm done writing a book, I'm like, that's it.
I'm done.
I have nothing left.
And then, of course, you're like, fuck.
Oh, I've got to write another book, and I've got to do another stand-up show.
How many books have you written now?
Six.
Six.
I'm on my seventh right now.
I'm writing a new one.
Oh, my gosh.
And I just had a phone call with my editor this morning, and I'm like, listen, this is
all over the shop.
And she's like, do you want to show me some stuff?
I'm like, nope.
It's not ready for anyone to see.
I've never written a book.
I thought you did write a book.
No, not one.
Oh, that seems weird.
I feel like everyone from Chelsea Lately wrote a book.
I didn't.
I didn't think at the time that people wanted a book from me.
I felt like it wasn't the right time.
But I feel like I maybe have a book in me now. Yeah, absolutely. I feel like it wasn't the right time. But I feel like I'm maybe have a book in me now.
Yeah, absolutely. I feel like everybody has a book. Yeah. But I've never I've never done it.
Yeah. Well, that seems like something you should tackle next. Do you want to write it for me?
Yeah. I would love to be a ghostwriter. Can you imagine you trying to write my story?
Then this bitch ate some brownies.
Oh, like I saw the clip.
We did an episode of my show.
I think it was a Netflix show where we all did cannabis.
We had a cannabis dinner.
And Fortune was definitely the highest and the funniest for about—
They actually sent me—my social media team sent me clips of that dinner.
And I was like, you're not capturing how ridiculous this got.
I was like, go back and look at the footage.
We need the outtakes.
The outtakes.
We laughed till we couldn't breathe for like two hours.
She thought there was military inside my house.
She's like, is that man wearing a military uniform?
I'm like, what? He had on camo pants and he was the lighting guy and he was breaking the lights down.
And I started yelling, no lights left behind.
I was high for like six days after that dinner.
I mean, it was because it was a cannabis infused dinner.
So the food.
Everything.
Everything.
So just when you thought you couldn't get higher, you did.
And she had never had.
I have no self-control with food.
Well, but you also don't have any self-control with cannabis because you had never done it before.
I had never.
Yeah, I had not done a lot of edibles, so I didn't know the ratios.
And I can't believe you didn't get sick.
I was high till noon the next day, but I did not get sick.
But everything was very fuzzy.
Yeah. One of my eyes didn't open the next day, but I did not get sick. But everything was very fuzzy. Yeah.
One of my eyes didn't open the next day until like 8 p.m.
It was a wild time.
But we did go through the stages of laughing uncontrollably.
We got so hungry after the dinner.
Your assistant was going to go get us burgers.
And I went, ooh, yeah, I want a burger.
And then you go, or we could just get a wrap.
And I was like, oh, a wrap?
You're going to get high and eat something semi-healthy?
What?
And then I caved under peer pressure and I went, yeah.
Yeah, she's like, sure, I'll have a turkey wrap.
You have something with a spinach tortilla?
With a spinach tortilla.
Good memory.
That's exactly what it was. Can I get some
good fats on there, like avocado?
What drugs did we try
in... Didn't I give you a little mushroom
in Montreal? Yeah, but I
didn't end up doing it.
Oh, you didn't? Jax took them all.
She's like,
these don't work. I think he has a
high tolerance.
Those were weak ones, actually. You know how i knew they were weak i so this guy gave me light medium and then strong i went over to my friend allison's house one day and she's like oh
you have to try these mushroom gummies i was like oh my god mushrooms are my favorite that's more i
like mushrooms more than cannabis and really why because they just make you awake. I've never had mushrooms.
I know. Well, why? I don't know. That Nancy Reagan campaign really stuck with me.
But you're a lesbian and she wouldn't approve of that either, Fortune. So you need to divorce
yourself. You have to divorce yourself from Nancy Reagan. Fortune, as someone who had never done
mushrooms, and I did like one of those little
light gummies when we were in Mallorca with Chelsea, it was so chill. You barely feel it.
You just giggle. You have a great time. And then you like feel yourself kind of coming down from
it at the end of dinner. Like it's not scary. I'm pretty chill though already. Do you think
I need to be chiller? It just, no.
And I giggle a lot.
It's a good point.
Like, I guess it would be lost.
Maybe I'm already on mushrooms?
Maybe.
I don't know.
I saw that trip you guys took.
Now, Chelsea had two groups of friends come visit her in Mallorca.
The first group, they were doing, like, 40-mile bike rides.
And I was like, no thanks.
And then the second group was like we're
eating dinner every night where everyone's bringing food I was like that's the that's the group for me
yeah I had actually there was a group preceding those two groups so there were three groups
the second group were these exercise maniacs all my friends from Whistler and Ange who basically
left Mallorca ran a marathon in Berlin,
and then came in sixth in the world championships for triathlons.
What?
Yes.
The little short one?
That little clam muscle.
She has no fat on her body.
No, she's a fucking lunatic.
That's not who you want to hang out in Spain with.
Well, by the way, listen, I actually, I was like, this is too much exercise.
Like one night I had heat stroke.
I was like, this is too much exercise. Like one night I had heat stroke. I was like, this is too much.
But then when the last group came in, I turned into Ange.
And I took like four of them.
I'm like, who wants to go biking?
Who wants to go hiking?
We went on a five-hour hike by accident.
Catherine's husband was there to spearhead it, thank God, because I can't follow.
I was like, go have fun.
Bye.
I'll ride in the car.
Have you ever tried to follow a trail map?
No.
Oh, my God. I can I'll ride in the car. Have you ever tried to follow a trail map? No. Oh, my God.
I can't follow a map or anything.
So if I had been left to my own devices, I would be dead right now.
Oh, my God.
And it was a tricky hike.
I mean, it was high and scary.
And we had to, like, climb, hike down to the water to hike back up.
Finally, our cousin, my cousin Molly, picked us up because we were like, this is a bunch of noise.
Your quote-unquote cousin Molly.
Yeah, the one that I'm sleeping with.
I was talking about drugs.
Oh, yeah.
I always go, yeah, that's funny.
Molly's funny.
Yeah, that hike part, that's too much for me.
I would have been eating calamari somewhere.
Well, we did.
We ate and drank.
Catherine was there.
Catherine and Brad came.
We had so much sangria every day at lunch. And then just like yeah i just and then i would just i get motivated by drinking like i want
to go exercise again like because sangria is not drink so i can burn off the you know because you
sober up quickly but it's just sangria also which is basically watered down wine yeah with ice with
juice fruit yeah it's like a it's like a capri sun yeah that's true it's like a Capri Sun.
Yeah, that's true.
It's an adult Capri Sun.
Did you drink a lot?
Do you think you drank more during your days on Chelsea Lately?
Or do you think you drink more now?
I probably drink more now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm so much healthier than I was on Chelsea Lately, but I think I drink the same.
Really?
Yeah.
But you know how to handle your liquor.
Well, do you?
Well, no, you never act like sloppy.
Well, I did.
I did.
I've had sloppy.
Well, back then, yeah.
Yeah.
But now, now you're a lady.
Now I'm elegant.
Now I'm elegant.
I used to love the stories you would tell about going out and taking the lemon that lemon juice comes in and emptying it and putting vodka in it.
I thought that was hilarious.
I would also take those little squeezable lemons you buy in the supermarket.
They have the lime and lemon,
which is fresh lime juice.
Well,
it's not fresh cause it's fucking canned,
but I would take that.
And then I'd go to the improv to do a set,
but I didn't trust their lemons cause you know,
it's the improv and I don't want their fruit.
And so I would squeeze that little lemon into my vodka wherever I went and it became my personal canteen. That is so funny. I just picture you with just getting a lemon out of your prayers.
Where do you, wait, let's talk about Chelsea Lately days. Let's see.
What's one of your favorite memories that sticks out?
Can you think of something off the top of your head?
Because we dressed you up a lot.
All the time.
It was borderline abusive, what Fortune did.
But she always had such a great attitude about it.
Well, you treated me like your adult baby doll.
Like, I can just put Fortune in whatever I want.
I was just happy to get a paycheck because when I got your show,
I had no money.
I was out of money.
And you became a writer.
Well, first you became a writer, but immediately we were like,
she has to be on camera.
Yeah.
When I interviewed with you, I owed my roommate like two grand in rent.
Oh, really?
Yeah, it was dire straits. Oh,
wow. I wasn't sure what I was going to do. I mean, I wouldn't have gone home. I would have,
you know, figured it out. I would have gotten a job somewhere, Starbucks, wherever. I would
have done whatever. But the dream was to be in the business and to be a working comedian.
I interviewed with other people first and then had the meeting with Chelsea. And I had no
expectations of it because I didn't think I had a chance. And honestly, I think that I was first.
I think I was your first interview of the day. And now that I know you, I know that like you just
make your mind up about something and don't want to come back to have to do something. So I think luckily you
liked me and you got up in the middle of my interview, like 10 minutes into it and you go,
okay, well thank you. And I was like, oh, she hates me. And you left. And I called my manager
at the time. I was like, well, I guess I said something to offend her. She got up in the middle of the interview and y'all offered me the job the next day. And now that I know you,
I know that you just were like, yeah, I like her. And I also don't want to have another meeting.
So it was a little bit of luck tied to, you know.
Well, I think anyone that would have met you would have understood
the quality and the contribution you were going to, you were about to make because we had such
a band of idiots on that show so that anybody with a good sense of humor and that made me laugh
and, you know, was going to be a good time because that was like a proper like fraternity party.
It was. That was before. Well, actually, no, there was hazing probably. Yeah,
you guys pranked each other all the time. And I think my, yeah, my second day you sent an email from my computer to like everyone saying that I like to get naked and take meetings in hot tubs
or something like that. I would get in early because I'm an early bird. So I would get in
early and then just start sending emails from different people's account.
This was before you could get in trouble for those kinds of things.
But I would send emails to human resources and be like, I found two naked people in the kitchen this morning.
And then send them a picture of the employees.
And then they would have a human resource meeting.
We would come out to people.
I would come out for other people.
I would set people up on dates with people from E!
Like, it was so inappropriate, everything we did.
But it was a lot of fun.
We had a lot of fun.
We laughed every day.
Oh, yeah.
Remember, I remember one day we were sitting there because we would have, every time there
was a birthday, we would have cupcakes or whatever that person wanted.
If they wanted Mexican food, whatever their favorite thing is, we would set it up.
And I remember sitting after work one day and we're all sitting there eating Mexican food, drinking margaritas. It was like Margarita
Thursdays or something. And I was like, do you think other people laugh as much as we do?
And everyone's like, no, no. And now that I'm not on that show, I realized, no, people don't laugh
as much as we were laughing because it was constant stupidity. And it didn't, we didn't
really even care what other people, we never cared how the show was being perceived, which is why I think it was such a success because no one was worried about it.
Yeah, we just did stupid sketches. show or something that Tara Reid did and we'd be like oh let's reenact it yeah and we'll make her
be Tara Reid and Chewy could be you know a bowling ball or whatever we decided and we would just run
with it and we didn't have any time to be self-conscious no yeah which is I think that
really one of the key ingredients to a successful yeah endeavor is to not overthink it yeah and I
think people just really love that you put together all
these comedians that like you love seeing everyone interact with each other because everyone would
make each other laugh or pick on each other or you would give people crap so many people still
to this day say they felt like they were a part of that with us like they were going to bed watching
us be silly with each other and that kind of was like lightning in a bottle.
You don't see comedians like that interact in that way anymore.
Yeah.
We're going to do it again.
We're going to reboot it and we're going to do it again.
Are you really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because now we have all of us and then this whole new crop of comics that are fucking awesome and funny.
And we can mix them all together. And I just want to put a show together where you can show comedians being funny
without being racist or sexist
since everybody seems to be fucking complaining
about parameters.
It's like you could do all of those things
without being offensive to people.
You know, I want to show them how easily that is done.
Now, would you do that like an every night kind of thing again?
I don't know. I don't know.
I mean, we're having the conversations now,
so we'll see where it leads. I don't know.
You're like, I still want to like go to Spain. Let's not get crazy.
Well, yeah, it can't be a year round job. Okay, let's say I have skiing and I have Spain. My sister's like, how are you going to do a real job with your lifestyle that you've created?
I need winters off, summers off, Fridays off, Mondays off. I could only work two hours a day. But one thing that's changed for you, because you had
a lot of different love interests during the show. And we were always very concerned about
Fortune's love interests. We always were. We always we didn't want anyone dating her for the
wrong reasons. And she's so sweet and loving and gullible. At that time you were. I mean, you're still sweet and loving
and probably a little bit gullible.
I am.
And there were a couple of, you know, weird ones
that came through.
But now you have been in a successful relationship
with Jax for over 10?
Seven years.
Oh, seven years.
Yeah, I came out late, you know.
I didn't come out until I was 25.
So I was making a lot of mistakes.
Like, if you
take the TV show and television in general away from the mix and me just trying to date, I was
making a lot of mistakes that you should make when you're 18, 19, early twenties, you make in college,
those kinds of things. I was making a lot of those mistakes in my late twenties, early thirties. And
you happen to be around for some of that part in my early 30s. You don't
know who's dating you for the right reasons. All of a sudden, I'm on a television show that
females are obsessed with. A lot of women came out of the woodwork because they loved you and
they loved the show. Sometimes you were like, do they like me or do they just want to meet Chelsea?
Like, I didn't know. So I went through some experiences where you find that out and some were good. Some intentions might not have been good for some people. But yeah, it took me a while
to really figure out what I wanted and what I was willing to put up with and what I felt I deserved.
And that took me till, you know, mid thirties to really figure
that out. And then I met Jax, like right as I was figuring that out, I met her.
So tell us about your relationship with her because it feels very healthy. It feels very
supportive. She moved out here to be with you. She doesn't always come on the road with you,
but you guys obviously spend a fair amount of time together on the road. By the way,
nobody should have to go on the road with anybody because it's a fucking ball buster and you
shouldn't have to expose that to anybody. So I get not wanting to do that. But tell me about some of
the growth that you've had within that relationship and how that supports your mental health and
career and all of the things that, you know, you bring to the table. Yeah, I think I met her at a time where I was tired of being someone's option.
I had a lot of people kind of treating me like you'll do for now kind of thing.
And I remember specifically being like, I'm done with that.
I want to meet somebody that wants to be with me and I'm a priority for them.
They're a priority for me.
And she came into my life and right away I knew that there was something different about her and about our connection. And we just clicked. And we were long distance for a year because she was living in Chicago. And then, yeah, she like made that decision to leave her job. She's a kindergarten teacher in Chicago and inner city Chicago, really amazing teacher.
And I remember being like, am I ruining this person's life by like having her come out to LA?
She's such an amazing teacher and she loves Chicago. But, you know, she did that for me.
She wanted us to work and us to be together. And I was touring a lot and acting and if she hadn't done that you know we might not
have been able to to make it because I my schedule was so crazy but she was willing to put me first
and no one had ever done that for me before and so she moved here and we just kind of started this
life together and yeah it's a very I I think, very healthy relationship that, you know,
we support each other.
And she's very helpful with career stuff.
She's kind of like part of the circus now.
She's always, I don't, there's no decision
I don't run by her.
She's very much at the helm of everything I do.
She was executive producer on both my specials.
Oh, wow.
Yeah,
like and very good at it, too. Not just like putting her name on it. She's going frame by frame with me, watching all the shows and all the shots and making decision, picking music,
helping with fonts, you know, all that stuff that goes into these specials you don't think about.
My team, as they say, loops her into everything. She's very much a part of things, more than people realize.
So, you know, she just wants me to succeed and be happy.
And that's what you want, you know.
I want her to be happy.
I'm always like, what can we do to give you balance, you know.
If you don't want to go on the road, don't.
Let's find things that are important to you and things like that
you know and do you guys how do you guys handle any friction in your relationship when that comes
up or does it not come up do you not have any friction oh every I mean I don't know any couple
that doesn't I was just pretending to ask the question I didn't mean that yeah I mean we we
definitely have our moments like everybody but I try with her because she is my wife.
We got married two years ago.
Even if you're like or disagreeing or fussing at each other or getting on each other's nerves,
I try never to be mean.
You know what I mean?
Or say mean things because those things are hard to walk back.
Yeah, but that's not your personality anyway.
Right.
That's my personality.
You're just mean.
You would never be mean. I'm not sure I can be mean. That's my personality. You're just you would never be mean.
Like, I'm not sure I can be mean. I don't know. I don't I've never seen you be mean.
I'm sure I'm sure I've been a dick plenty here. Try it right now. Say something mean.
You asshole. Yeah, it's the accent, but I get on her nerves for sure I'm a little
I definitely have tunnel vision when it comes to my career and I have to really make myself
step outside of myself sometimes to be like you are being too eye on the prize like you have a
wife you have other people in your life you have to think about you cannot just be thinking about a dog that needs to be breastfed yes I have to breastfeed my dog you know what I mean because
you get so wrapped up in work absolutely no I get it I've been there I'm always there I have to
always remind myself to have a life I mean even though it doesn't look that way from afar it's an
internal struggle I have all the time yeah you, and I never want her to feel neglected or
like I'm not putting our relationship as a priority. So and I'm guilty of for sure, like
getting too much tunnel vision with my career that sometimes I'm like, oh, shoot, I didn't.
I should have been better about her birthday, you know, things like that. I don't want to be that
person that neglects my person because of career, because at the end of the day, I do want to be successful, but I don't want that to be everything. It can't be everything. I have to have balance.
Yeah.
So that's my challenge. It's like ambition versus balance because ambition is you want to remain relevant.
Right. And you want to have people asking you to do things and you want things to not be as challenging as they were.
But I think as you become more and more successful, it's like there's different sorts of challenges.
And it's it never seems to this business.
It never seems to be enough.
You know what I mean?
Like for your own self, but for even other people, like I can be like, oh, I've got a
special coming out and an action series.
And people are like, what else?
What's next?
You're like, why is that not enough?
I know, I know.
But it never feels like there's enough.
Maybe because we consume so much so quickly now.
Yeah.
With entertainment.
It just seems like everyone's like, what next?
What next?
What next?
That you feel like you can't even stop and breathe to like enjoy what you just did.
You're like thinking about the next thing.
So that will be the thing in my relationship that I have to really pause and make sure I don't get too stuck on that career stuff that I'm making the person that I love feel like they're
not a priority. Yeah. And do you guys have you guys ever been to counseling, couples counseling?
Early on, we went to a couple sessions because I was in therapy. I originally went to therapy to
get to the bottom of why I was choosing the women I was choosing, why I was putting up with certain
things and not thinking more highly of myself in that way.
So she came and did a few sessions with that therapist that I was with at the time.
But we haven't since then. That was a gynecologist, by the way.
It wasn't a therapist.
I'm just here to tell you that I referred you to her and that was a gynecologist.
Well, it all checked out.
I'm clear, baby.
All clear.
So she proceeded with caution.
No, we haven't done it since, but I would be open to it.
I mean, I think it doesn't, it couldn't hurt.
I would imagine it would help with your communication in general.
If there's anybody that's feeling like they can't say something, I would hope that would be the place you could yeah I was watching that more show couples therapy that we were
talking about have you ever seen that on showtime couples therapy it's like a real real life couples
with this therapist I love that shit I fucking love watching couples in therapy because you see
the transformation that happens and you see when there's no hope for a couple where somebody's just
done and the other person but sometimes that it seems that way in the beginning and then they come together and then it's really
about listening to the other person. Some people can't hear, you know, like when there's conflict,
they just shut down and they can't hear what the other person is saying. And then that becomes
that cycle. But anyway, speaking of counseling, we're going to start counseling right now because
that's what we're doing. People call in for advice.
So, Catherine, what do we have on deck for this afternoon?
We have some bad parents is what we have.
Oh, no.
Like kinky?
Yeah, kinky parents.
I mean, actually, there might be some.
But we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back with some callers.
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Fortune's still in the tub, so I'm back alone.
Oh, there she is.
She just popped out.
Let me just put my towel on.
Hold on.
I'm ready for advice.
Amazing.
Well, don't forget to hang up your loofah. And our first email is from Taryn.
Taryn says, Dear Chelsea, my name is Taryn and I'm a 34-year-old lesbian from Atlanta, Georgia.
I'm set to get married to the love of my life this year. We are both absolutely thrilled to
finally be getting married as we've been engaged for almost three years and together for five. My immediate family shares our excitement and has been nothing but supportive of us.
However, her parents do not have the same feelings, and we've been led to believe that
they will not be attending our wedding. This thought absolutely breaks my heart because I've
grown to know her family and love them dearly. What's even more heartbreaking is having to
listen to my fiancé as she tries to navigate how to talk to her parents. They've said they want to talk about it but have made zero effort
in discussing details about our wedding and state only vague religious reasons as to why they're not
supportive. My question is this. Do you think I need to try and say anything to her parents,
or should I continue to stay on the sidelines and just be an emotional support for my fiancé?'s let me know she doesn't want me to talk to them about it and I should let it go,
but I can't help but hurt for her and I wonder if talking to them might help them see a different
perspective. I absolutely love your podcast and I highly appreciate any advice you have for me.
Taryn. See, I'm always an interloper. I like to get into people's business and get involved. So I
don't know that this is the right advice for you. It's not. But okay. So yeah, Fortune, you give the
advice. No, you go. I'll go after you. I just, I always overstep and it's not always received
warmly. So I can't say that it's the right thing to do, but I would make a case
in writing about the impact that this is going to have on the child.
You would write a letter?
I would write an email.
An email, okay.
Yeah. I would just be like, this is going to be forever. We're going to get married and you are
going to forever have missed that moment in your child's life and what you're foregoing. Like,
not with the idea that the outcome was going to be to change
their mind, but to just try everything possible to persuade them to reconsider one of the most
important moments in their daughter's life. Yeah. How about you, Fortune? Well, I mean,
I think I can totally see you doing that because you're there's nothing that you're going to
not speak out about. That's the beauty of you. If you see something, you say something you do. Like if you see something that's wrong, you're like, I don't this isn't right, which is great. I'm a bit more passive. In my opinion, I would be more of the support system for the partner because she said that she doesn't want her to speak out. You know what I mean? Like, she's made that clear.
But I also, from my experience with people and the gay thing and the religious thing together,
whatever she's going to write is not going to change their mind right now.
I think people have to evolve eventually or not.
She could write the letter.
I guess if you thought,
what's the worst that will happen? They're already not coming. You know what I mean?
Right. So there is kind of nothing to lose-ish, but to me, I don't think it will change their opinion when it comes to the wedding because those deep seated religious beliefs
take a while to unravel. That's for sure. Yeah. And they do unravel.
Yeah. People can evolve or see how happy you are. But also, it's your day. It's your wedding day.
It's about you two. And do you want that there? I know it's sad for your partner,
but do you want someone there that doesn't wish you well? Yeah, that's a good
point, actually. But I think who wouldn't want their parents there? I get that, too. Obviously,
it's sad no matter what, but I would want my parents there for sure, but I don't know
how good it would feel seeing them across the room eating a slider, looking like they hate every
moment of being there.
Yeah. But if you think about it and they're together for many years and then there's always
that gaping hole of their wedding day that their parents missed. It's like they're missing out on
the rest of her life in a sense. Like they're missing this real pivotal moment. And I would
want to lay it out to give you every last opportunity to make sure you don't miss that.
Even if it's just the mother who came or the father who came or whoever's less religious or I don't know how to frame it.
But I mean, I would do it, but I'm not recommending that you do it because I just can't control myself.
Well, also, if you do do it, if you want to write that email, do it with the expectation of having no expectation. Yeah,
absolutely. I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. Just end softly with love. Yeah. You can't be like,
you did this, you did that. It has to be like handled with some kid gloves. Yeah. And the fact that Taryn said she also cares for these parents, I think is a really good sign. You know, she's not
like, oh, I hate them. They're terrible. She's like, no, I also care for them.
And it hurts me that they wouldn't be there.
I do love the idea of writing a letter so it's not as like heightened emotions.
But I don't know.
I don't understand why people think that this like sitting out a moment in their kid's life
is going to punish them or teach them a lesson or that they're not participating, that it's
going to change any result.
I don't know that they think that.
I think they just think this is sacrilegious.
Like, I can't lay witness to this because it's not under my belief system.
I don't think that they're trying to teach them a lesson.
It's more like we can't sully ourselves with this kind of sin.
They're like, I'm not going to get into heaven if I go to this gay wedding.
Right, right.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe an email. I mean,, I'm not going to get into heaven if I go to this gay wedding. Right, yeah. I mean, maybe an email.
I mean, maybe I'm coming around on this. Maybe an email.
I don't know.
Don't let Chelsea write it.
She's like, what the fuck
is wrong with you?
I would handle it, because at the end
of the day, they are her parents. I would handle it
as respectful as possible.
And they are going to be your in-laws for many years to come.
And I don't think that means to like not ever push back against it.
Goodness knows I have pushed back against things with my own in-laws.
But at the same time, I do have the expectation and I know that they're going to be in my life for a very long time.
So what I say or do, it lasts and it matters. But if there is one thing that
either of you would say if these parents decide not to go to the wedding, and fortunately you
kind of touched on this, but is there something that you would say to help this couple kind of
feel better about the outcome? Well, it's the same thing I would say for any event where you're
disappointed in something that's not there, you have to celebrate the people that are there.
It's like if you don't sell out a show,
you can't be worried about the 100 tickets that aren't sold.
You have to worry about the 1,500 tickets that are sold
and the people that paid money to see you come.
And in the case of a wedding,
you have to think about all of the people that are there supporting you and loving you.
And if you go to someone's wedding,
you're usually going to be friends with that person for a very long time.
That's an investment into a friendship friendship and that's a beautiful thing. And yeah, as Fortune
said, you just have to think of it as like negative energy. We don't want that there on
our special day. We want people that are applauding us and like supporting us and to focus on that
love and to keep reminding yourself of the gratitude you have for all the people that are there.
Yeah. I mean, I had a wedding party. We got married in COVID and had a wedding party a year later. And there were a
couple of family people that couldn't come for various reasons. And I was focused at first on
that being a bummer and being like disappointed in that. And then I finally had to let it go.
And it ended up being such a special night.
And I had so many friends there and love and the friends that couldn't come, you know, I heard from.
And you have to just lean into that love and the positive part of it.
Because at the end of the day, you met someone you're marrying.
And if you think about that, it's like it is so hard to find a person that you want to settle down with and that wants to settle down with you.
Just finding each other was a miracle, a miracle.
So lean into that and recognize that you did it.
You found someone you want to be with.
They love you.
And that is the true celebration.
And all the other stuff is just, you know, it's people there loving and supporting you. That's the positive cherry on top, but it is not what it's about. It's about you too.
It's funny you use the word miracle because Gwen Stefani uses that word all the time. And I,
whenever I see her, I always make fun of her. I'm like, not everything's a miracle, Gwen.
And she's like, meeting Blake was a miracle. And that happened. She goes, meeting Blake was a
miracle. It's a miracle. I was like, he was sitting right fucking next to you on the voice why is that a miracle and she's like chelsea it's a miracle
that i fell in love with him i'm like and then i was like i started thinking about i'm like
yeah maybe it is a miracle maybe my cynical mind doesn't believe in miracles and maybe every little
thing is a miracle i think two people coming together and in that way that you you really think you can spend your life with this person.
You're going to wake up to this person every day and not get tired of each other.
That's a miracle.
Yeah, but you don't know that you're not going to get tired.
You might.
Yeah, you might, but you're going into it thinking, I think we can do this.
These two things had to line up for us to get to this point.
And Gwen and Blake are seemingly very different on the outside.
So in a way, that is kind of like, who would have ever thought her growing up in Anaheim,
him in Oklahoma, that their paths would somehow cross like that.
That's probably what she means.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's a miracle.
It's miraculous.
Just enjoy it.
I guess write that email. I think that's what we landed on. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It's a miracle. It's miraculous. Just enjoy it. I guess write that email.
I think that's what we landed on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you can title the email, Every Day a Miracle.
Yeah.
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She's in her late 20s.
She says,
Dear Chelsea,
My parents have always pulled my sister and I
into their toxic, manipulative relationship.
When we were younger,
they'd scream at each other,
give each other the silent treatment,
tell one another they were going to move out,
all right in front of us.
My dad made us unknowing accomplices in his affair.
My mom would use us as pawns during their fights. I'm now in my late 20s, living independently from my parents, and I've been working with an amazing therapist for the last two years
on reparenting myself. Because of that, the most recent time my parents tried to pull me
into their bullshit, yes, they're still doing this, I said enough is enough.
I had a really uncomfortable conversation with my mom where I shared that I needed lots of space and that moving forward, I'll be making choices to protect myself from being pulled into their relationship troubles.
They've been going to therapy, but I haven't seen much improvement on this specific topic.
During our infrequent phone calls, they'll slip in that they're mad at each other for some reason, blah, blah, blah.
I've been very open each time it happens that I don't want to hear it.
Here are the reasons why, etc.
Here's the issue.
My sister, who I rarely get to see, invited my parents and I to Thanksgiving at her house this year.
I'd love to see my sister and her fiancé, but I just don't think my parents will be able to keep it together.
The house we'll be in doesn't allow for a ton of privacy,
and they live out in the middle of nowhere, so I can't stay somewhere else.
I know that if I go, I'll somehow get entangled in their bullshit,
if only from a spectator standpoint.
They don't really scream and fight in front of us anymore,
though I'm sure they still do this in private.
Now, it's mostly underlying manipulation,
giving each other the cold shoulder openly,
sending each other texts like,
maybe I'll just move out when I get home, which are easily seen on my mom's phone from a distance because
she has her font up to a thousand. So what should I do? I don't want to be around my parents together
for that long since I know the boundaries still aren't there. Is it shitty to just skip holidays
and family gatherings until this is resolved, knowing it might never be resolved? I don't want
to look back and think I missed out on valuable time with my family, but I've also been around enough fighting for
an entire lifetime. Jess. Hi, Jess. Hi, Jess. Hi. Hi. That's so fucked up. Thank you.
Oh, my God. I can't believe your parents are like, act like that. I know. Yeah. I think
they're doing their best,
but their best is kind of bad. They're not doing their best. I'm so sick of everybody saying that.
Not everybody is doing their best. Some people are just coasting and like just getting by. Not
everybody's doing their best. I mean, obviously they don't have the tools to be doing better
because otherwise hopefully they would. But yeah, you don't have to give them that much credit how long have they been married oh i think like 25 years so yeah and they've never separated or
anything like that they separated there was like an affair in there so they separated during that
time it was obviously handled poorly we've never spoken about it really as a family so
and then they got back together just out of habit.
They're like, I guess you'll do.
Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
And when you started like setting the boundaries for them, how did they respond to that?
It was really bad. There's actually been an update since then.
So they have been going to counseling and they went like three times and they're like, we're good. And they asked if I would come to the counseling with them once to like have me share the boundaries in a
facilitated way, because it was just hard to share. And even in that facilitated way,
they didn't get it. They just kept saying like, this is just how we grew up and this is just how
it is. And like, it's so small, like this doesn't matter, but it's pretty intense. So I don't know. They just can't understand. It's just how they grew up.
It does feel like that older generation is less into therapy and more of like,
you just got to stick it out. And the rest of us are like cut bait, jump ship.
Yeah. It's like, you know, when people think that it's like a fixed state of being, it's like,
no, you're in a state of mind that you've decided is a fixed state of being.
It's a state. Everything is a state of mind. That attitude and that disposition is like that's not how you have to be.
You have other options, but they're like, no, this is me.
Yeah. And what I've been struggling with is like, I don't think that's my job to help them through it.
But do I just like not see them until then knowing that it could never get any better. And all of my friends have awful relationships with their
parents. So nobody else, nobody else in my life knows how to handle those either. So I don't know.
Well, what about your sister? Is she so she's okay with having Thanksgiving with them? Because
I don't want you to miss out on Thanksgiving because your parents I just feel like you kind
of have to flip your narrative. They are going to be the way they are.
And I think you have to try
and have less of an impact on you,
especially around important holiday family times.
This is an important holiday
that I don't want you to miss because of that.
I understand setting boundaries.
I think that's totally healthy for the rest of the year
when it's not Christmas or whatever, Hanukkah,
whatever you celebrate.
If there's a way that you can go
and just disengage when that happens
and not take it on so much yourself,
kind of, I don't want to say disassociate
because that can be a dangerous word,
but just kind of take a step back
and not let it affect you so much,
knowing that they're limited
and that they're going to remain that way
and that you've said what you're going to say.
And just leaving the room when things are going for a walk outside, when things get heated and just being like, I told you guys, I don't want to be a part of this.
And making sure that every time you remove yourself from the situation, when you feel like you're getting to a place where it becomes untenable for yourself.
Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to miss a good family drama at Thanksgiving.
I mean, sometimes that is fun.
Well, it's fun if you don't come from a family like that.
When your dad's like, can you pass a turkey?
And she's like, you had an affair.
I mean, it's so pathetic that their children have to set boundaries for them.
You know, like way to parent your parents.
But don't you think that happens a lot these days?
Yes, I do.
I do.
I feel, I mean, it sucks.
It sucks.
It's like you can't change them and you can't make them have a happy, healthy relationship.
And if they're not going to divorce, you also can't change that.
So, I mean, it is up to you to have to either you don't go.
But again, like Chelsea said, you're missing out on these big family holidays or you go with, again, like tapering your expectations of what's going to happen and trying not to let yourself get affected so heavily by their energy and their actions towards each other.
Finding ways to, like, be with your sister when you're there.
Focusing on that, you know, catching up there
and just letting mom and dad sort of hash it out in the kitchen.
You know, instead of, like, getting in the middle,
you can just be like, I'm out.
I'm just here for sweet potatoes.
Yeah, or even any time it comes up or if there is a
fight, you put on a podcast and fucking listen to it or put on an album and listen to it.
Sorry, I'm not doing this. You don't have to let it run you for during that time. It's actually a
pretty good mental gym exercise for you to be able to go to an event and let them kind of do their
thing. I mean, they've gotten the warning, so they're probably going to be on better behavior
than they have been, even though their best behavior is still probably not
going to be good enough. I think it's a good exercise for you to be a little bit more tolerant,
knowing that you've kind of drawn the lines and then just removing yourself when it becomes
annoying or too much, just walking outside and going for a walk and coming back.
That sends the message also, like, cool it or I'm going to leave.
What Fortune and Chelsea are saying, it echoes something I talked about with my therapist recently where we were going home for a family thing and I was crying about like, well, what if
I have to talk about this stuff with my family and they're going to be shitty about it? Or if I don't,
then they're going to talk shit behind my back, blah, blah, blah. Just, you know, kind of being
emotional about family stuff. And my therapist said something that was so freeing, which was,
yeah, families talk shit. They're going to do what they're going to do regardless of what you
have going on, regardless sometimes of the boundaries that you've set. The only one we
can control is ourself. And so for me, it was such a light to just be like, oh, that's just a thing. I don't
have to let it activate my stuff. It doesn't have to get through to me. And I love the idea of just
like sitting there with a little podcast and like taking a mental break, do a, you know, a headspace
meditation, chill out for a little bit. Yeah. Just tell your parents you'd rather listen to
Russian state propaganda and then turn on Russian state news and then listen to them fucking bicker at the table, you know?
Or put on my Netflix special, Good Fortune.
Yeah.
Yay!
Yeah, I think I just need to get comfortable.
Like, they get mad when we don't get pulled in, and I think I just need to be comfortable being like, that's your thing.
I'm going to sit here and, yeah.
Well, people like that want a reaction.
And if you stop giving them that reaction, eventually they will stop.
They want it first, but you got to kind of retrain them.
But if you are reactive to what they're doing,
they're doing it because they know they're going to get a response from you.
And that's what they want.
Because they're not getting stuff from each other.
So now they're putting the tentacles out elsewhere.
And you just have to not.
I know it's hard.
It requires self-control on your part.
But yeah, you just can't give the reaction they want.
Or any reaction.
I'm eating my sweet potatoes.
And then look at your mom and say, bitch.
Okay, maybe don't say that part.
Or say it.
I mean, who fucking gives a shit?
Yeah, or say it.
You'll have a good time.
I say go to Thanksgiving. I say take some mushrooms
and go to Thanksgiving. Yeah.
Take some mushrooms and just sit there and you'll have a great time
no matter what the fuck's going on. Go there knowing you're gonna have
the best time ever. You know what? Slip your parents some mushrooms.
That's a good idea too.
I love this. I'm feeling much
better about this. Yeah. Go with a good idea too i love this i'm feeling much better about this yeah yeah go with
a good sense of humor yeah treat it all be lighter yourself going to it don't go like
dreading it just fucking mushrooms air pods yeah good fortune good fortune fortune cookie exactly
yeah for yourself and then read it to them and say it says you guys are getting
divorced please fucking fast track that shit play two truths and a lie or your sister and you can
make a game out of it you know you guys can have a nice hidden game about how many times they get
you know say something or you drink each other yeah you just every time your mom brings up your dad cheating
you drink we'll be wasted but yeah i think i think you going lighter to it might help your anxiety as
well yeah i already feel better i was not taking the light approach at all it was just like i'm
gonna go or i'm not gonna go but yeah because here's the best part you don't live with them and you don't have to deal with that all the time you get to leave
yeah yeah that should make you happy you don't you're not the person stuck in that yeah i was
just like i wonder if i want to i could pay 800 to watch people fight or i could go on a trip
without these people and have a good time right well you don't have to spend every holiday with
them that's true yeah just so you know i don't spend every holiday with my family yeah that doesn't
make you a bad daughter right it might trigger somebody telling me i'm a bad daughter but no
who cares about that we already decided you don't care you're also entering your adult phase i used
to spend every holiday when i was in my 20s but but once I hit my 30s, because I felt guilt, you don't have to spend every holiday with them.
Yeah, and this is the first year. I think it's that weird in between of it's just expected, but
I'm fine.
Choose one. I would do every other one every year. Thanksgiving one year,
Christmas the next year, but that's up to you.
Totally off the next year.
Yeah.
Yeah, and then you and your sister can go to Mexico with her fiance next year. But that's up to you. That's up to you. Totally off the next year. Yeah. Yeah. And then
you and your sister can like go to Mexico with her fiance next year. That sounds good. Yeah.
My sister is much better about all of this. She just has no emotions. That's because she's on
mushrooms. Yes. Amazing. Well, thank you, Jess. I appreciate you calling in and sharing this with
us because I think it's going to help a lot of people. A lot of people have questions, maybe not as bad of behavior as your parents, but similar questions.
Awesome.
Well, thank you so much for the advice.
I really appreciate it.
You're welcome, Jess.
I hope I helped.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Thank you.
Happy mushrooms.
Bye.
Bye.
Oh, she's so sweet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Couples like that need to do MDMA therapy.
Right.
Where they're both on Molly and then all of a sudden.
Create some new neural pathways.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All of a sudden they're walking around naked.
That's a Thanksgiving.
That sounds great.
Well, we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back to wrap up with Fortune and Chelsea.
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Well, it kind of stemming off of what we were talking about earlier before we took the calls, I was going to ask you if you did recommend couples therapy, because I feel like it has that
like negative connotation of like you only go if there are problems. But I've been hearing more and
more people lately talk about that it that it's shouldn't be like treated like that, that you
should go even if your relationship is good
and healthy, that it can help you in ways you never thought. And I had never thought about it
like that until I recently heard that. And so I was just curious. Yeah, I think so. I think it's
very proactive because it helps with communication because like you have to understand as healthy as
your relationship may be, two different people come from two different backgrounds and have two
completely separate histories and two different ways of viewing things. And it's only advantageous to learn about how somebody else
sees things. You can only learn from that. And the strongest connection with people is communication.
Like that is the number one ingredient to be able to communicate in a loving, calm way,
even when conflict arises, because it's going to arise. Something will happen where there's conflict at some point. And when you have the tools to deal with that, it doesn't become a
hurdle. It just becomes like almost an opportunity to grow closer. Yeah. You know, and I feel like
that kind of connection, especially with a third party, really can bring people together when both
people are very open to hearing about the other person's perceptions and experiences.
So I am a total, you know, I don't think I'll date anyone who hasn't been to therapy
or who isn't open to going to therapy.
I think both of us would be open to it,
but neither of us have really taken that seriously or approached each other about it
because we didn't want the other person to assume there was an issue.
Yeah, yeah. You know, so I feel like sometimes we just don't say it because I'm like
I don't have an issue and you don't I think have an issue so by us bringing this up are they gonna
think that we have a problem in the relationship that we don't you know what I mean so that's okay
I'll bring it up we're going to happy hour later so I'll just bring it up naturally and just suggest
but she said it she said it to me before and been like, you know, so it's not like something she's against. I just feel like it does have that negative thing around it. When you say couples therapy, people automatically go, well, what's wrong? Yeah. And that's not the case. No, I don't think so at all. I think really smart people go like proactively go to get, you
know, so that you have somebody and then it doesn't have to be like a regular thing. Like you don't
have to go every week. You could go once a month, but when there is a conflict or a crisis or
something comes up and that's when you can lean on someone and you know, you have that at your
disposal, which is always just, I think such a huge advantage, you know, to know some, you have
somebody you can lean on for those kinds of things. Yeah. Yeah.
All right.
Well, there you go.
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