Dear Chelsea - Bar-Hopping Church with Wanda Sykes
Episode Date: July 2, 2026Wanda Sykes joins Chelsea to talk about what she’d do if Ivanka moved in, treating church like bar-hopping, and why she may not be able to top her new special, LEGACY. Then: A Black woman ...cringes when going to her white boyfriend’s redneck family get-togethers. A 50-something is laid off but looking forward to what’s next. And a bisexual man worries his lack of experience will hold him back. * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at DearChelseaPodcast@gmail.com * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees. This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And then in December, I am closing out my tour in Denver and Vancouver.
So get your tickets at Chelseahandler.com for the high and mighty tour.
Hello, Catherine.
Hi, Chelsea.
You're about to be traveling.
You are traveling.
I am traveling.
I have just left in Nantucket.
Oh.
Yes.
Yamanika and I were in Nantucket.
We had two shows here.
We had a show at the Comedy Melody Tent.
And now I'm off to Wimbledon.
That's very exciting.
Where I would be performing tennis.
Oh.
You're going to do the first serve?
Sabrina Williams is returning to the singles tennis and I am too.
Amazing.
I mean, not returning.
I'm debuting at 51.
I figured why not?
Listen, challenge yourself.
Why not?
But I'm bringing Megan Galey, who's a comedian who opens for me.
It's her dream to go to Wimbledon.
Yeah.
So I'm bringing her.
She's coming for like two days.
And then I'm going on a, yeah, I'm going to be in London for a few days.
And then I'm going to go on a nice boat.
Yeah.
And then I'm going to go to.
Spanish immersion school. Oh, oh, in Spain, I'm guessing. In Madrid, yes. Oh, I love that. I love that. I think
that's going to like catapult your Spanish. I know. That's what I'm hoping. I think I might do it for like two
weeks straight. I mean, we'll see if I can last that long. Yeah, yeah. But it's like six hours a day.
Well, you speak enough to you that if someone, like if it's totally immersive and they're just speaking
Spanish to you, like you'll get it. Well, it won't be totally immersive. I'm staying at a nice hotel.
I'm not. I look into, listen, I looked into the possibilities. And I was like, this is. This is.
is better if I have my own bar and restaurant every night.
That's okay.
Just in case I want to hook up or, you know, bounce around town.
Right.
It's Madrid in the summertime, so things are going to be popping.
So I'm excited about it.
It's going to be a Chelsea, classic Chelsea adventure.
I can already tell.
But I agree with that.
It's like you can work your brain during the day and then at night you can party and
have fun in English.
Yes.
Yes.
Exactly.
Oh, I practice my Spanish.
Great.
Listen, I've always been looking for a man with a language barrier.
So.
Perfect.
Yeah.
I think that was this one.
might be an opportunity for multiple things.
Well, our guest today is a legendary comic and actress.
Her new special Wanda Sykes Legacy is on Netflix now.
Okay, I love it, love it, love it.
The woman who has her new stand-up special out on Netflix called Legacy,
which is A++, is joining us here today.
Wanda Sykes is here.
Hi, Wanda.
Hi.
How you doing?
This is our producer, Catherine.
Hey, Catherine.
Hi, how are you?
Where are you?
Where are you zooming in from?
Are you at the opening of the Obama Library today in Chicago, Wanda?
I wish.
I wish I could have been there.
But actually, I was in Costco while that was going on.
I was in the middle of Costco, like, just sobbing.
Oh, because of the speeches.
Yeah.
I know.
Actually, Eddie Vetter and the kids took me out.
Oh, I haven't had, I've been recording all day, so we haven't seen, I haven't seen that part.
Yeah.
But I saw Michelle Obama's speech talking to him about how great he is.
Because, you know, throughout all of our time with the Obamas, she's always kind of like,
this is a regular guy, you know, like I want to make sure he keeps his feet on the ground.
Like, she always kind of gives that kind of energy.
You know, like I'm pissed about being in the White House.
You may be do this.
And now I'm, you know, now I've got to deal with all this shit.
So it was so, and of course she loves this man, obviously.
But to hear her, I mean, we all love him too.
But to hear her talk about him in that way.
was so beautiful and honestly right on fucking time.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
It was great.
Wait until you see Eddie Vedder and these kids.
Oh, man.
Really?
What happened?
Give us a preview.
Tell me.
Yeah, they composed a song, an original song, just for the occasion.
And along with these local kids.
And it was just incredible.
Oh, I can't wait to see that.
I can't wait to see that.
Wanda, I love your new special.
you better get an Emmy nomination for it.
It's so great.
One of the things I admire the most about you,
I realize I know I found out a lot about you doing the research for this,
but that I didn't realize I knew because I've known you for so many years,
but I don't really know you well.
But one of the things that I've admired about you
for as long as I have known you
is just how political you are and how you talk about politics in your special.
So many comedians really try to steer clear of that
and instead just show up at the White House for a UFC fight
and act like they don't know anything about politics.
So it's really...
Oh, this is the White House?
The president lives here?
Oh, wow.
I didn't know.
Oh, who knew?
And I love what you said.
I was watching your Vulture interview.
I love that interviewer, the guy that interviewed you for Vulture.
He interviews.
Yeah, he's great.
He asks the best fucking questions, don't you think?
He does.
He's great.
Yeah, he really does his research.
But I watched your Vulture interview, and he was asking you, you know, about your political stance and do you feel how you feel about being political? Do you ever get scared? And I thought that was a really interesting question and what you said about it. So I would love to just talk a little bit about that. Like how you frame that and how you view being political. Because I'm sure you know that I feel very strongly about, you know, the stuff that you're talking about too. And I feel like it's a responsibility, not an option.
Absolutely. I mean, I think that's our, you know, what we're supposed to do. And honestly,
and those are the comedians that resonate with me. I feel like we're like the daredebals kind of
like. We're the ones who are supposed to go out and give a voice to the people who are
marginalized. And I happen to check a lot of boxes in those margins, you know, being a woman,
being, you know, African American, being queer. So,
it's just to me that's that's what I'm into you know I I would feel weird if I went out there
and just talked about I don't know just everyday stuff and not about what's really affecting me
in my life and everyone else yeah I feel the same way I feel like it's such a and and I've
learned a lot over the years of when it's important to say something and when it's just kind
of noise you know and when to pitch in and to be a little bit more I guess discerning
about, you know, saying things.
So it's not like you're just banging the same drum all the time
to have an artfulness about it,
which I've really started to grown to appreciate
and understand more as I've gotten older.
So that's been helpful because obviously we're all living through this.
But I feel the same way about comics who don't address it,
who don't want to talk about politics or can't say anything.
I'd rather you be emphatically against what we're saying
and be honest about that than trying to pretend
you don't know what's going on.
I find that to be in a front to all people, like to humanity.
But while I was doing this reading about you,
I had no idea you were married to a man at some point.
What were you thinking?
I can't believe I didn't know this about you.
I was just trying to fit in for years.
I was trying to fit in, you know.
I heard that was the way to go.
I heard that was the way to go.
Oh, my God.
How long did that last, Wanda?
I chose that lifestyle.
do straight. I really did.
I would love to see some photographs from that era of your life.
No.
What? How long did that last?
Oh, wow. That lasted what I could.
Lord, maybe six, seven years, six years.
Yeah. And when you, did you, when you left that marriage, did you tell him that you're not into men?
Or was it just him personally?
No, no, no. You know what? That wasn't even why it ended, I think.
It just was a bad situation, bad relationship.
Yeah.
And that you grew up on an army with an army father.
I had no idea about that either.
That's crazy.
Yeah, my dad's retired colonel.
So that must have been a really kind of very specific, strict upbringing.
Do you know what?
Not really.
The way my dad approached it is, I mean, you know, he took his job seriously.
But when, you know, he came home, he took off the uniform and, you know, read the paper.
paper, chilled, and he was just dad, you know. He, it wasn't make your bed and tighten the
corners and all that stuff like that. No, we, but just being and, you know, growing up in
Virginia with, you know, black parents, it's stripped already. It really, the army, it was
nothing else that the army could do. Really?
Honestly, I really don't know what else the army could have done. Like, what kind of rules did they
have for you growing up. It was mainly like respect and, you know, it was, it was, yes, sir, no ma'am.
And, you know, you cleaned up and we had chores and everything. But it was mainly just like just a lot of
behavior and, you know, you don't, you don't act up in school. You know, you get good grades and
do your homework. Say your grace before you eat. And, you know, church on Sunday.
Did you like going to church?
I did. I did.
Do you go still?
I go online.
COVID was great, man, with the online church.
I was going to church all over the country.
You know, I was popping here, pop in there.
Let me see what they're doing over here, you know.
But I finally joined the church.
And it's in Alexandria, Virginia.
So I, you know, when I'm in town, I go, I pop in.
That's nice. And does Alex go with you? No, no. She's. She's French. She's French. The whole special is like, I love that you have her smoking cigarettes only to reveal that she doesn't smoke cigarettes at the end. Not at all. It's just how I've always seen her. I've always seen her just.
So she's French. So she's not interested in church. But you, so that's interesting that you still go to church and that you're back in Virginia. I'm not saying all French people are.
go to church. Well, most of them don't. It's not a Europe. They don't talk about it. But you know what?
There's so many churches in Europe, especially in France. There's tons of churches. I mean,
look, they have Notre Dame. They got, you know. Yeah, but their churches, their churches wanted to seem like
historical. Yeah. Like, their churches seem like a relic from the past because half of those churches
you go into, it's like, it's tourists. Right. Right. You know, like Las Agrada in Barcelona. You're like,
oh my God. And then you're like, wait, you forget that you're actually in a place of worship.
Right. It's more like a museum, I guess. But it's interesting that what about the kids?
Do the kids ever go to church with you? They've been a couple of times with me. Yeah, but not really.
Okay. Well, I think it's interesting when people return to their roots. Like, I failed at that.
That's one thing I go, oh, man, I didn't make my kids go to church. I think in these modern times we're living in, it would be a pretty big feat to get two kids to go to church.
I know.
But I do think this like return to like you return to the church.
Like it's very interesting at the phase of life that you're in that these things are still in your life or that you've returned to them.
Don't you think, do you ever think about that?
Well, I think it's what keeps me grounded, I guess.
I'm not necessarily grounded.
It's just my, it's my base.
It's where I'm comfortable.
It's not really grand.
It's my support, really.
Yeah.
It's my foundation.
So it was pretty easy, I guess, to ease back into it.
And does Alex like Virginia as a French woman?
I don't think she has an opinion on it.
You don't?
Would she prefer to south of France?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
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My husband is currently on a vacation with his mistress and I'm confronting them.
Tell me, Sophia, how did she even catch them?
One Amazon shopping receipt.
He accidentally sent her a photo of the kid's Christmas gifts
with a delivery to another woman at the bottom.
He exposed himself?
That's a rookie move.
Couples massages, monogrammed bath robes, and lingerie he then mowed her for.
So she spent four weeks gathering evidence
and taped a 10-page letter inside his luggage before he flew out.
In his luggage, she came to play.
And the second he landed, he blocked her.
So she called the hotel room directly and got the mistress on the,
the phone.
Ooh, she got the mistress live on the phone.
That is a bold move.
Let's see if it pays off.
Then it gets worse.
He took the mistress on the Bahamas honeymoon trip he had planned with his wife.
And then the mistress tagged him on Facebook, outing the fair to her entire family.
That's like a whole public confession.
And spoiler, two years later, karma hits him so hard.
He's calling his ex-wife in tears saying about the mistress.
What a mistake that was.
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it's like, it's like, it's a way to say, hello,
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I never have ever I've evered with anybody.
Except with my
kids, my kids,
and my mom.
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podcasts. What about L.A.? What do you think about L.A. and living in L.A.? Because don't you go back and
forth? Yeah. I still have my place in L.A. Yeah. I like it out there. I like it out in L.A. I'm great
friends out there. It's funny. When I'm there, it's like I'm working and I feel like I'm in show business.
And when I'm in Philadelphia, I go, oh, you know, I'm in Philly. You know, I'm, so sometimes I've been out,
you know, like gardening or whatever. And I just go, I want to help you.
much money I'm losing right now, just out here, not doing show business stuff, you know. But,
but it's good because that's, that's where I get creative. That's where, you know, I'm, I have my
boots on the ground as far as what's actually happening. Yeah. I find L.A., don't you feel like
everyone in L.A. has gotten sober? Oh, wow. You got to hang out with my friends. There's a lot of
sober people in L.A.
now. There's a lot. Yeah, you're right.
You're right. And, you know, I think it's
our peers and we're all worried about our livers
now, right? I know, but I don't
I'm never going to give up drinking. Do you know what
I mean? Like, it's... Oh, no, I'm not
doing that. Yeah, I know you're on the same team
I'm on with regard to drinking.
I'm still team vodka.
Yeah, and if that takes me down, then
so be it. Like, then that's the way it's going to
go down. But I went to three dinners
last week and a total
of 11 people
were at three of these dinners,
and I was the only person drinking at all three dinners.
All three.
Wow.
Yes.
And I was like, wow, look what's become of us.
I said, look at everyone.
Everyone's sober.
And not that people, only one of the women was sober.
Sober.
The others just had no interest in alcohol.
And I was baffled.
But were they on weed?
No, no.
But I was on weed and alcohol.
Go see you.
Somebody's got to bring the party.
Yeah.
Somebody's got to bring them.
the party. I mean, God, yeah. Where do you do stage time? Because when I saw you at Jane Fonda's thing,
we both saw each other at a Jane Fonda event for her climate pack. I know Jane is a really good friend
of yours and she's a really great friend of mine as well. And this woman is tireless in her efforts.
I have never seen anything like it in my entire life. I've never seen anybody work as hard as
Jane Fonda works. Can't name a person. Can't name one. She's, I mean, incredible. I really think she was put on
this earth to make us all feel bad about ourselves, really.
She told me that she makes 100 calls before noon every single day to raise money for
her climate pack.
What?
100 calls per day.
That's wild.
By noon.
I mean, can you imagine being that annoying and having to call people and ask them for money
a hundred times a day?
I would be like, forget it.
Forget about the climate.
I don't have it in me.
I can't see myself doing that, especially at James Day.
I'm like, let the sun win.
What do I care?
You know?
How did you guys first meet on Monster-in-Law, was it?
Yeah, Monster-in-Law.
So what was your first interaction like?
Incredible.
I was so nervous because, you know, she's Jane Fonda.
And this was her first project since she kind of like semi-retired.
So I'm like, oh, my God, you know, all my scenes are with her.
What is this going to be?
like, and she walked in, and she just was like, Wanda, and just gave me a big hug and was like,
I'm Jane Fonda.
And I'm like, like, we didn't know that, but okay.
And she's like, I am, you know, just so excited to work with you.
And she was just so gracious.
And just, you know, she's like, you're going to have to help me out a lot because it's
been a while since I've, you know, done this.
And I'm like, okay, now it's a little patronizing.
But all right.
Okay.
I appreciate it. I appreciate it.
I'm like, this is sweet.
She's just a sweetheart, really.
Just genuine, just a good woman.
I mean, you've done a lot of acting work and you're in a lot of stuff.
I love you and the other two.
I mean, that is so fucking funny that show.
How do you decide when you're going to do stuff?
Like, when you're going to do a special, when you're going to take on a TV show?
Or do you just wait for opportunities to present themselves?
That's usually how it happens.
Opportunities present themselves.
or I come up with an idea and I go, oh, I think I'm, yeah, let me try this.
I want to, let me see if I can get this one, you know, get this up and going.
As far as the specials, you kind of know, right?
I mean, you get the material going on and then you get to a point.
It's like, I think I got something.
And then it's like, when I feel like I'm like six months away,
then I'll tell my agent, hey, let's, you know, let's do a special.
because then I'll at least give me another year to work on it.
Yeah, I think specials are really specific to each comedian,
like how many times you have to run a set, how many times you have to do it.
Some people feel like they have to do it 200 times.
There are comedians who can do it 50 times and then be ready for a special.
But I loved the opening sequence because she went back to Hampton.
Is it Hampton College or Hampton University?
Hampton University, yeah.
University, which, and there's the opening sequence is so beautifully shot. And who's like, was that your
director's idea? Was that your idea? Yeah, Julie Dash. Yeah. I wanted something saying, I'm coming back home.
And, you know, she did that amazing movie, Daughters of the Dust. So she was like, I'm, you know,
she put together a storyboard. And I was like, this is it. This is exactly what I wanted. You know,
I wanted the band. I wanted the choir. Uh, so yeah, she, she nailed it. And it's just, yeah,
I think it's beautiful. It's beautiful. Yeah, it's beautiful. And you could tell. And you could tell.
how impactful it was because you're pretty emotional, as you should be, bringing that home is
really profound. What number special is this for you? I think seven. Wow. I think it's seven.
Seven. And you haven't won an Emmy yet for a stand-up special or have you? No, a lot of nominations,
but no win. Okay. Well, let's hope that this fucking brings it home. How do you feel, I want to ask you
a question about like being a female in comedy coming from another female rather than a man asking
this question because we get asked the same questions all the time from men. But I want to ask you
about like your competitive spirit or your competitive nature and how you see that, how that's
changed over the years for you. And do you view that as a good thing or do you view it as a negative
thing? I don't look at it as a competitive thing. I compete with myself. You know, it's like,
So my next special, it has to be better than legacy.
And I'm already going.
I don't know how I'm going to do that because this one was so meaningful.
So like what is the next one going to be?
But I think like whatever happens, like whatever happens in November, whatever happens in two years from now,
maybe that'll be something that will inspire the next one.
or maybe I'll be like, hey, fuck it, that's it.
I did legacy.
I'm done.
You know, who knows?
But yeah, I don't look at it as competing because if you do that, I think you're going to get out of who you are, you know, as far as your voice.
I don't want to look at somebody else's special and go, oh, I can do that and then start taking on these elements that aren't really authentic to me.
but I could pull it off, but I don't, you know, so I don't, yeah, I try not to, I try not to do that.
However, I will say that there's, you know, like for me, the one who did it was Chris Rock,
when he did bring the pain, to me, that elevated comedy where it challenged me, where I said,
I got to do better. And so if I look at that as a competition, yeah, but to me it was more like a challenge.
Not, you know, I got to do, you know, be better whatever than what he was doing.
Like it inspired you to want to like create something like that.
What about what about bring the pain specifically?
Was it the like the sentiment of it or was there something more specific?
I mean, obviously that was an incredible special.
I think he wanted me for that, right?
Right.
Yeah.
No, I mean, no one was doing that.
We were all not really talking about anything.
It was, you know, just a lot of sex jokes and black people do this, white people do that.
And I don't know.
It was just kind of like comedy was just kind of that.
It's like, Def Jam was hot.
Deaf Jam was hot, which was good because we got a lot of great voices from that, great, you know, funny comics from that.
But Chris, I think he brought it back.
He brought it back to, for me, like, you know, Pryor and Carlin and.
back in that line.
Yeah, I think there's definitely an evolution that happens.
And we're living during a time where we're seeing it a lot.
And I love the time we're living in for the reason
because there are so many female comics
that are killing it and crushing it.
It's like so nice to finally have so many people to reference.
And point two, when people ask you, what is it like to be?
You know, what was it like to be one of the only women?
And it's like we were never, I was never in a situation.
where I was the only woman, I'd be on a lineup where I was the only woman, but I was not the only woman, you know?
And to see it now where there's so many people that you can refer to and speak to, when somebody asks you, who should we be looking at, you're like, oh, this is so fucking nice.
It actually has changed since we've been on the scene.
You know, to see that evolution.
And then also, I think personally for each comic, like, as women, I feel that even more that you have such a, you know, you have different periods of your life.
I'm 51, I think you're 62 now, right?
Yes.
And like you're speaking to that.
Like you're talking a lot about the twins in this special.
You're talking about them and the, you know, you talk about spanking.
You talk about what, you know, the impact that they've had on your life.
Like the fact that they're going to be out of the house soon probably, they're going to go to college in a year or two years?
And a year.
Yeah.
In a year.
Are you looking forward to that period of time?
You know what?
I am.
And Alex got upset with me because.
I said that. I think I was on Jimmy Kimmel or what are these shows. And I said, I'm excited. I'm
looking forward to. And that upset her because she, I guess she took it as like, I want the kids
gone. But to me, it's like, yeah, I did. You know, we did it. We, you know, we raised these
kids. And now they're equipped and they're ready to go to the next stage. And I love that.
idea and also like the idea of the two of us back to just us, you know, where every night is
date night. You know, it doesn't have to be all this. Okay, I got to go do this. You got to drop this
one off and whatever. I look forward to that. What if when both of the kids went off to school,
what if in order to have the freedom that you desire, you had to spend one month, you and Alex
had to spend one month living at your house
and you can choose one of these three people
that would move in with you for just one month
and then you would be free of them
for the rest of your life and then you could have your private time.
I'll give you three options.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders,
Megan Kelly, or Ivanka Trump.
One of those three people has to live with you
in order for your kids to have successful lives.
That's the price you have to pay.
They're going to go to college.
They're going to get jobs and they're going to be happy, high-functioning adults.
Who do you choose?
Think about it.
Nightmare blunt rotation.
Nightmare blunt rotation.
How bad would their lives be if I didn't do this?
Bad.
You don't know.
You can't risk it.
You can't risk it.
You have to choose one of these women.
Okay.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to Ivanka Trump.
That's an interesting choice.
Okay.
Yeah.
And tell us why.
I think I could break her in like two weeks.
Give me two weeks.
I break her and she's going to tell me something.
She's going to give up something.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to get something out of her.
I really, I'm going to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you're not allowed to be physically violent with any of these people.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Just conversation.
You can be spiritually violent.
Just conversation.
Just, no, no, no.
I won't put my hands on it.
Just conversation.
Okay.
I'll get something out of her.
All right.
I like the choice of Ivanka Trump.
Although her voice.
Yeah, I'm a, I'm going to find out where all the bodies are buried.
Do you think she even knows where all the bodies are buried?
I mean, I don't even think she knows what the fuck is going on.
I mean, with this whole Albania thing, it's like,
Oh, my God.
Her island that she discovered.
She, if she discovered.
She's discovered.
She's Christopher Columbus.
There was a cartoon. I don't know if you saw this on Instagram, but there was a cartoon of her swimming.
You know, she tells this story. Like, Albania wouldn't even have known that she bought that island if she hadn't done that interview. That's like some shit I would pull. Like I out myself before I get caught, you know? And they did this cartoon of her swimming. And then she swims to the island and they climb to the top. And they're like, I think we'll buy it. But what the Albanian people have done has been inspirational.
Oh, beautiful, beautiful. Oh, give it up. Yes. And they're beautiful people because people are going to Albania. Like, you know, that's becoming a hot spot for travel. So I'm pretty proud of them and they've inspired Americans because it seems like we're all sitting around with our thumbs up our asses looking around going, who's going to tell us what to do next? And nobody seems to have any good ideas. Are you hopeful about the midterms, Wanda? I am. Yeah, I am. I'm very hopeful. Yeah, especially now. And, you know, people have. People are.
finally speaking up. I mean, some Republicans are finally speaking up about this Iranian deal.
So, but I am. I am. I am hopeful. I think people are just, they've been hit so hard by everything.
So, so they got, they got to vote. They got to, they got to step up. Yeah. And also I think that,
you know, all this gerrymandering stuff, like, I really do think that's going to kick back.
There was a state today that voted against it, a Republican state legislature that said absolutely no to the
gerrymandering. So like, I think that also is going to have some unintended, not positive consequences
for the Republicans. And I think the people that are real MAGA heads, like those people we just
have to consider as mentally ill. They are. Exactly. They're unwell. It's like racism. You're mentally,
like, when someone just described racism to me as mental illness, I was like, that clicked in.
And that applies to MAGAs, too. It's mental illness. So there's no cure. We can't help them.
It's just, that's the way it's going to be for them. And forget about those.
people and trying to flip them. That's pointless. And yeah. So are you in Philly? Oh, I'm Philly.
When I met Alex, she was living here. So Philly's a fun city. I mean, those people are
fucking scary at sports games, though. Jesus. Yeah. We tried to go to something there once. And I was
like, oh my God, this is a violent. This is violence. Get off the streets after the game. Yeah.
We don't play about our sports. I know. I know. Which teams do you support? The Sixers and the Eagles.
Yeah? Yeah. Yeah.
The Eagles are so fun.
That is a great team to support.
Yeah.
And do you guys go to games and stuff?
Yeah, we go to games.
And we worked on bringing a WNBA team to Philadelphia.
And that's going to happen in 2030.
Oh, congratulations.
That's fucking awesome.
Yeah.
What's the name of the team?
Do you know?
We don't know yet.
We don't know yet.
It's with the Sixers in conjunction with the, you know,
the Sixers are the ones who actually put the bid in.
But we're the, but our group, the Philadelphia sisters,
We lobbied and we've been working on this thing for like years, like seven.
It was before COVID.
We was working on this for a long time to get them to get a team and we got a team.
Wow.
I fucking love that.
Good for you.
Congrats.
Thank you.
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He took the mistress on the Bahamas honeymoon trip he had planned with his wife.
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That's like a whole public confession.
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We take a couple of calls.
And we give advice, Wanda.
Are you ready to do that?
And you're prepared.
Oh, sure I'm great at this.
Yeah, I'm sure you are.
You have enough life experience and wisdom to shed some light on some situations.
Yes.
You know what?
We're going to start with Kelly.
Kelly, she's just writing in, but she says, dear Chelsea, I, a 29-year-old black
female, have been dating a guy, 31 and notably white, for about two years.
And it's come to light that his parents are.
social and political idiots who are incapable of critical thinking. That's right, you guessed it,
they're mega vegetables. It seems as if they think I'm some sort of Candace Owen's aberration to
their racist philosophies, yet they're never comfortable overtly discussing politics when he
and I are around. My boyfriend also seems to have gotten the short end of the evolutionary
stick because he finds it's imperative to still spend holidays with them as if it's no big deal,
two to five times a year. I'm talking spending the night at their home when we visit, having
hour-long forced topical conversations about shit like beer, I'm unable to continue faking the funk,
and he seems to think that spending time with his folks is an unsavory yet umbilical facet of the relationship.
Otherwise, we're extremely compatible, but also I'm young and hot and need to get out of here
if there's going to be no return on investment of my youth. Help, Kelly. Get out, Kelly. Get out of there.
Anyone, I like the way she termed that. Unbillical. I don't know. That's great. That was a good use of
of a word in that sense.
I would say to get out of that situation
because anyone who,
I mean, you've dealt with your in-laws,
but your in-laws are probably cool
because they're French.
Right.
Yeah, that's not the same thing.
But I don't think when somebody has that kind of relationship,
that obligatory relationship
where they want to spend three to five holidays,
I mean, as soon as we're adults,
that's enough with that stuff.
Like, you don't have to spend Christmas, Thanksgiving,
and all. I didn't even know there are five.
What are they spending Flag Day together?
Memorial Day, July 4th. Yeah, that's too much.
Yep, the 4th.
Well, she said three to, she said what, two to five times?
Yeah, two to five times a year.
Five, two to five times a year.
All right, well, let's, let's work with it.
Because we can save this man.
Can we?
You know, that's a, she's going to get a good white man on our side.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay, okay.
If she dumps him, he might go back.
Right, right, right.
Okay, that's a good angle.
That's why you're here, Wanda.
Thank you for that insight.
You know, but to me, if she is really into him,
why don't she just negotiate?
Look, I'm going to make one trip a year to spend with your dumb parents.
And the other times, you know, you go on your own.
And, I mean, I'm sure she has family that she wants to go see, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, so let him go see his family.
She goes to see her family.
She can talk shit about his parents to her family.
That's right.
That's a good solution is to compromise.
And even if, for some reason, she doesn't have family,
then you can go celebrate those holidays with your friends.
Yes.
Or take some mushrooms and celebrate them alone like I do every fucking Christmas without my family.
So that's, those are several options are on the table.
And I think whenever she does go, he has to make a donation to like,
some liberal cause, like an abortion fund or something.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Speaking of which, Wanda, I heard you talking about the roast and that you were so glad you
didn't do it.
I mean, I just want to reiterate how glad you must be that you didn't do it.
Oh, my God.
Were you tempted at all to do it?
I was because I thought I was going to be able to go in and then just get out.
And they were like, no, you have to stay for the whole thing and be on the days.
And I was like, can't do that, man.
I can't do it.
But you did great.
You really did.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You and Cheryl, I thought, had the best set.
Thank you.
I mean, yeah, Cheryl crushed.
I thought into it.
And it wasn't just lazy, you know, just whatever.
You're short.
It was really good.
Bravo.
Thank you.
What was the reason you did?
You couldn't, because you just couldn't sit there on the dais with those guys for three hours, or is there a different reason?
Yeah, because I knew, I knew what it was going to be.
Yes.
You know, right.
I knew where it was going.
I knew it was going to be.
And I was like, somebody's going to say something real dumb and real ugly.
And either I'm going to get up and walk out and knock shit over or, you know, I'm going to, you know, beat Kevin, you know.
But no, I love Kevin.
And I got no beef with Kevin at all.
Yeah, Kevin's pretty easy to love.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, our first caller today is T.
And he says, his subject line is black and by, I guess.
Dear Chelsea, I'm a 28-year-old guy living in Southeast Texas, born and raised.
To cut to the chase, I'm a queer identifying black men who's never actually dated or sexually
been involved with men.
I know, weird, but I'm sure.
I don't date much, but there's been a couple of girls here in the
there, some of which were in high school, which I don't really count as real relationships.
When people hear me speak or see how I socialize with others, especially women, the question
of, is he gay, always comes up. Maybe because I'm not a fucking creep. I've noticed since I was
14, that I wasn't completely hetero, but who is? But labels feel restrictive. Not to mention
being a black man raised in the South and how that plays a part in existing as a man, but I do a
good job of not succumbing to the woes of toxic masculinity. I don't hide my sexuality,
but I'm also not screaming it from the rooftop.
Now I want to actually explore dating guys since I've never dipped my foot into that pool,
but like I've mentioned, I don't date much.
I'm almost hyper-independent.
I enjoy my peace too much to let anyone ruin that.
But I know if I found the right person or people, I could have something really nice and
better than what I enjoy now.
The apps are terribly exhausting, and I think one reason I've not dated men is because
the ones around here are absolutely unbearably terrible.
Whether they're Republican, D.L. Synonymous, or just plain boring, I tend to lose interest
pretty fast. But I don't know if this is genuine disinterest or some latent self-inflicted homophobia.
What's your advice for a by guy living in Texas that wants to enter the world of gay dating for the
first time at 28? And what advice do you have for me when the inevitable, you're 28 and have never dated a guy
comes up. T. Hi, T. Hi, hi, ladies. Hey, this is Wanda Sykes, our special guest today.
How you doing, Tee?
It's so nice to meet all of you.
I can't even, like, say how Starstruck I am right now.
Aw, you're sweet.
T, what part of Texas are you in?
I'm about an hour outside of Houston.
Okay.
It's not, like, really big, but it's not, like, super small either.
I mean, Dallas is pretty, you know, popping as far as in the queer community.
But I think, you know, go to Atlanta for a week.
again.
I think you'll find out real quickly, which, you know, what floats your boat what you're
into.
I think, right?
I think that's a great idea, solid idea, yes.
Have you been to Atlanta, T?
I have not been to Atlanta.
Oh, boy.
No, I've definitely been to.
It is gay overload.
Yeah, I've been to Dallas a couple times.
I actually went with a couple friends.
maybe two or three years ago.
And I was actually super surprised about how queer the place is.
But yeah, you don't have to tell me how gay Atlanta is.
You hear about it all the time.
Absolutely.
But I definitely think it's worth a trip.
I mean, I think that's a serious, like good piece of advice.
Yeah.
Because it is good to go, especially like get outside of your community and check out what you're
into and find, you know, spend a long weekend there.
I'm going to Dallas for a show.
You come.
My niece goes to Emory University in.
Atlanta, we'll take you out. She'll know where the gay bars are and where to go. If you want to do that,
I'm serious. We would take you out and do that because there's something I love more than shepherding
somebody into their gayness. But also, I don't want you to think of 28 years old as like,
like, that's an embarrassment. I think you should flip the script. I think you should flip the script on that.
Like, you should look at that as I've been waiting until I've whole adult man and waiting until I'm mature and
to be in a relationship and a romantic relationship and to be sure of what it is I'm looking for.
So there's an advantage for you not having to have been through all the drama and all the
noise and ugliness that relationships can bring when you're kind of too young and immature to really
know what you're doing.
So first I would start with that.
You know what I mean?
Like flip the script on that.
Yeah.
And I completely agree.
It's more, it is more.
more along the lines of, you know, I needed to like, I guess, find myself, you know, before,
you know, just throwing myself into something just because, you know, some people don't like
to be alone or, you know, some people have to be in a relationship or anything like that.
But, yeah, like, I just, I really like the, you know, the peace and the lack of drama that comes
with being single, but, you know, not that it gets old, but, you know, there are some things that,
you'd like to share with people and, you know, being in a relationship kind of gives you that,
like, built-in person, I guess, to do those things with. But, yeah, no, I completely agree with you guys
with that. And I have been doing, like, a bit more traveling this, like, past, like, year or so.
I was talking to Catherine a couple days ago. I'll be actually going on a cruise. I think we leave
Saturday.
Well, that'll be the end of it. Don't – there you go.
Right, yeah, exactly. So, yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm excited and I think doing some traveling, especially to cities as, you know, queers Atlanta and Dallas are, is definitely like pretty, pretty solid and good advice.
T, do you have like very many queer friendships where you live now?
Yeah, like I have a couple of queer friends. Honestly, most of my kids are probably like bye. But yeah, like it's pretty good.
And we're all kind of in the same boat of like we're pretty much like around my same age.
But like the dating scene around here is just, you know, it's not Dallas or or something like that.
So it's more of just like, you know, if you can find that that diamond in the rough, I guess, like, you know, you're a really lucky one.
But not to say that there's like none around here.
It's just like, you know, you have to find someone or someone's, you know, that kind of fits what you're looking for.
Well, you're super adorable.
Yeah.
Yes.
Thank you.
You're not going to have any problems.
Look at that smile.
Yeah.
Thank you so much.
Yeah.
And I think just even getting to a place in your life where you're just saying it out loud and, you know, calling into a podcast about it and expressing like the desires and what you actually want in life, those are really important things to actually say out loud and go after and be proactive about.
So like, you know, take these trips, keep talking about it.
and then, you know, go on, have you been on these apps and stuff?
Because I think one of the good things about these apps is that you can be so specific about
what you are looking for where you can kind of cut the trash out, you know, like if you tell somebody,
like, this is exactly what, you know, this is what I want.
I don't want anyone with kids or I want somebody who's also by.
I want somebody who's never been with, you know, whatever your specifications are,
you can say that on an app.
And that's a nice thing that while apps have their own set of,
problems. That's one of the advantages that you can kind of cut out all the noise with your
specifications. Yeah, I've definitely been on the apps. I probably, I delete them on and off
every now and then. I don't currently have on my phone now, but I have been, you know, kind of
getting that itch of like, maybe should I download it again to see what's going on? So yeah,
maybe I'll hop back in. It's, and it's not really, I guess, you know, not to like give
myself a big head or anything, but it's not really hard to, like, find people to match with.
It's just, you know, the, I guess keeping it going is kind of hard. Like, I'm not like a ghoster,
but, you know, maybe a little like phantom move out if things aren't really like, you know,
picking up or like you can't really see them, you know, going anywhere. Right. But yeah, no,
I'll probably have to give the apps another try again. I like Chelsea's original idea, which is
get out to a gay bar. Like gay bars are closing across the country.
country.
It's like none within like a hundred mile radius of me.
I'm pretty sure.
Are you sure?
Maybe in Houston, but like maybe in Houston is like the only place I can think of.
There's going to be a gay bar in Houston.
There's, there has to be a gay bar for you.
I mean, I wouldn't be performing in a city that didn't have gay bars.
So that's just like not even.
Yeah.
So you got to go to, I mean, that's important also.
It's also important to meet people like, you know, whether it's romantic or not,
you want to meet people in your community and build a community.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So be proactive about it that way.
And also, are you on Instagram?
Absolutely, yeah.
Yeah.
So that you can geo-target people and like look for people in your area, you know,
and then you can hit people up on DMs.
I've never tried that, yeah.
Yeah, that's a nice way to meet people, especially if you're not like, you know,
for anonymous people who are like, living, you could slide into someone's DMs and be like,
oh, I love your profile.
Do you, you know, do you ever want to do something?
Like, you see, you know, you look at the vibe of what they are.
But, you know, there's all different ways to do it.
But I love being basically in person is a lost art, and people need to, you know, double down on that.
A, because gay bars are closing down all the time and we need to keep them open and we need to
forgive them business. So keep that in mind also when you're doing this. And yeah, just to build
your community. You just want to build, I love that you have friends that are in the same kind of
situation as you and that you guys are like figuring it out together. That's great.
That you have like a support system, so to speak. So just keep doing that. But be very proactive
about putting yourself out there.
Yeah, thank you so much.
I gotta get my by posse.
We gotta rate a couple gay bars, I guess.
Yay.
There you go.
The next step.
And seriously, look at my tour schedule
on my Instagram.
When I'm Atlanta, in Atlanta,
if you want to come that weekend,
there are always gay men at my shows.
There are.
And hit Catherine up
and we'll coordinate tickets for you and everything.
I will definitely do that.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, ladies.
With pleasure.
Guys.
Awesome.
Thanks, T.
Go get it, T.
You're so cute.
Thank you so much.
Look out there.
You guys have a good one.
Okay.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Yeah, I love him.
He's just so sweet.
He's cute.
So cute.
He's going to do great.
He's going to do just fine.
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My husband is currently on a vacation with his mistress, and I'm confronting them.
Tell me, Sophia, how did she even catch them?
One Amazon shopping receipt.
He accidentally sent her a photo of the kid's Christmas gifts
with a delivery to another woman at the bottom.
He exposed himself?
That's a rookie move.
Couples massages, monogrammed bath robes, and lingerie he then mowed her for.
So she spent four weeks gathering evidence
and taped a 10-page letter inside his luggage before he flew out.
In his luggage, she came to play.
And the second he landed, he blocked her.
So she called the hotel room directly and got the mistress on the,
phone.
Ooh, she got the mistress live on the phone.
That is a bold move.
Let's see if it pays off.
Then it gets worse.
He took the mistress on the Bahamas honeymoon trip he had planned with his wife.
And then the mistress tagged him on Facebook, outing the fair to her entire family.
That's like a whole public confession.
And spoiler, two years later, karma hits him so hard.
He's calling his ex-wife in tears saying about the mistress.
What a mistake that was.
To find out what happened, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHart Radio
app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Hoda Kotby, host of the podcast, Joy 101
with Hoda Kotby. Okay, if you know me, you know this. I'm always searching for inspiration,
for support, and useful tools to help maximize joy. So this podcast lets us uncover all of that
together. We're going to have these meaningful conversations with the world's most fascinating
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Our next caller is Meg, and she says, happily laid off, but now what?
Dear Chelsea, I'm Meg, I'm 51, a Pisces born in 1975, just like you.
I live outside Philadelphia.
Oh.
And I was just laid off from an amazing company that I truly felt like I would spend the rest of my career with.
It was an amazing place to work until it wasn't, new leadership, and it all went south.
Here's the thing.
I'm not devastated.
I'm relieved.
I can finally breathe again.
that's the part that's keeping me up at night. I've had a good career and what has genuinely
brought me joy, the part I'd do for free, is leading people, mentoring women early in their
careers, watching someone who didn't believe in herself, figure out that she's actually brilliant,
teaching women to be bold and strong and have their voices heard. That has always been the best
part of the job, and I've quietly wondered if there's a version of my life where that's not just a
sidebar. I have a teenage daughter watching every move I make, a list of life projects I keep deferring,
and a bit of runway thanks to savings and a supportive spouse.
I want to show my daughter that you don't have to stay on a path just because you've already
walked most of it.
That reinvention isn't just for your 20s, that it's actually braver to start over at 51 than it ever was at 25.
I don't want to just find another job.
I want to find the right next chapter.
So, Chelsea, you're 51.
You've done this and you don't sugarcoat anything, which is why I need your help, Meg.
Hi, Meg.
Hi.
Hi.
This is Wanda Sykes, our special guest.
Hi, Wanda.
I'm Ed.
I loved your letter.
I think that is really empowering.
And you could tell that you're a woman who empowers other women by everything you wrote and wanting to demonstrate that for your daughter.
So I don't know what's the problem.
Like, yes, you should.
You should reinvent yourself and do something.
Do you know what you want to do?
Is that what you're asking?
You know, I've thought a lot about it.
I wrote the letter like six weeks ago.
So I've had more time to think about it.
And I mean, the more time that's gone by, the more I'm like, I definitely don't feel like going back to what I was doing.
It was great.
It was a career.
But it's not like passion in terms of like the industry and stuff like that.
But what I really love is just being a role model and like being a person that like I had a lot of earlier career women that were on my team.
And they just, they always just like came to me for every kind of problem.
Every kind of challenge.
And I always, you know, just really felt like I could, I could figure out the right words to
help them and to lead them.
So I just, I think about that.
And that's like, I haven't been doing that too much.
And that's what I miss the most, my girls.
And yeah, I just, I kind of, I'm trying to figure out, like, what can I do that's maybe
leadership focus?
But then I also, like, have a lot of different passions in life.
I love to travel.
I love to ski.
I love to, you know,
be with my families. I'm like, how can I, like, do all that and make money? I don't know.
Easily. Easily. First of all, you have the whole world at your fingertips. Like, you have such a
luxury that you're talking about right now. You financially able to do that. Most people are not.
You have a daughter that, like, this is a very exciting time. So, like, you should be really excited.
Definitely, if you can get rid of that job that you're not passionate about, get rid of it.
The most exciting thing I felt when I turned 50 was like, I was so scared of,
turning 50 thinking it was like not so scared but I kind of was like I wasn't excited and then I
turned 50 and it was like this brand new excitement like it was like a whole reset I don't know if you
felt that way Wanda at 50 or 60 but I feel like every decade gives us like we're still here
we've got all of our shit together like we're the reason we got ourselves to the position we're in
so we've got receipts to show how competent and capable we are and then
like you have a whole new like chapter. It's very exciting and you kind of, you're smarter than you've
ever been. You have more wisdom than you've ever had and you have more life experience than you ever
had. The world is your oyster. You can figure out a way to mentor young girls or business women or
however you want to do it easily. That's not going to be hard for you to figure out. You've done it
before and there's everybody. I mean, that's pretty much the most worthwhile thing I can think of doing
would be helping other people succeed, you know? So I think you should totally like get running in that
direction. You seem completely competent in knowing what you're good at. And that's kind of like,
you know, the thing that people call in here the most about is not knowing which direction to go in
and not knowing what they even feel passionate about. And you have all of those answers. So it's
just about taking steps in that direction. Don't you think, Wanda? Absolutely. Absolutely. You know,
I had a real job before I got into comedy.
I worked at LSA, but I just knew it was something else that I was supposed to be doing.
But I, you know, left the job to pursue comedy because that's what I'm passionate about.
I think you, you know, you know what you, the parts of your job, which gave you, gave you joy.
You said that was helping other women.
There's so many nonprofits out here with who could absolutely, you know,
know, do someone like you, need someone like you. There's like women. Actually, I met this woman
last night. She runs a program for women who are just coming out of jail, out of prison. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, if that's not, you know, that makes you uncomfortable, whatever, but still,
there's, there's so many programs of like nonprofits who need that, who can, you know,
give young women a path just to just to point them in the right direction as far as, you know,
how they can get their life together, help with the resumes or whatever, to get them,
you know, back up and into society.
So, yeah.
Or, you know, it's like you said, just career advice.
I'm sure, especially when you come out of college, you don't know what you really want to do
unless you're, you know, going for that hard science, you know, doctor, lawyer, whatever.
But it's, yeah, I mean, it's, for someone just to sit down and talk with young women about
what they want to do and also to help them find what they're passionate about, you know?
Yeah. It could save a lot of people, a lot of headaches going down a path and getting stuck in a job,
but they're like, oh, God, this can't be the rest of my life, you know?
Yeah, yeah, I loved my career. I loved what I did. And, you know, I learned so much. Like,
had I not had all that life experience and I kind of was like definitely always a person that just
like jumped in, rolled at my sleeves, got the job done, whatever.
needed to be done and I've always kind of taken that attitude. But, you know, now I'm like,
where, how can I, how can I really put like pen to paper and say, like, where, where do I start?
Like, I guess that's where I'm kind of struggling. Like, I know in my, in my heart, like what
brings me joy and what makes me happy, but I'm kind of like, all right, how do I, how do I find that?
And I guess that's, that's kind of where I, where I am right now. I feel like you, your vibe is high.
and I think if you can continue to maintain that high vibe and keep like looking and searching,
the right thing is going to come to you, whether that's looking online at different jobs,
networking with women's groups, women entrepreneur groups, or women's business groups.
And mentoring opportunities.
Just go online and look up mentoring opportunities because I'm sure you're going to run into a bunch of things you didn't even know existed.
There's so many career coaching.
I mean, all my friends that are CEOs have like career coaches and that might not sound appealing to you,
but like there's a coach for everything.
And if you're a motivational type of person,
there's people that are going to need help with,
you know, whatever you're willing to do in terms of like,
whether it is for a nonprofit or if it's,
or if it is something where you need to get paid,
like you just have to start putting your foot forward in that direction.
And when you get off this call, like really sit down and write down
what it would look like for you in to mentor.
Like what are you looking to do?
Do you want to mentor people personally, professionally,
like a life coach, like what it is you are, like write it all down so that you can really kind of like
have time to think about what is the most appealing part about that job for you and what you excel at.
And I think that you'll get a clearer idea, the more you keep kind of being introspective and like
really sitting with all of that. Yeah, I agree. There's something magical when you write stuff down,
almost as if it's already happened. Like this is what my dream job looks like. These are
are the elements that it has. This is where it's located and get really specific about what you want,
that it just like helps that crystallize and materialize. I know it seems woo-woo, but it really does work.
No, and you always talk about journaling and write, and I'm, you know, I always feel like I
open a book and I'm like, okay, I have it all in my head, but where do I start? So I just need to
like, like I said, put pen to paper and just try to get some words out. And, you know, I've done a lot
of writing in my career. So I should be able to do that. Yeah. But. But, you know,
You're going to be great.
Everything's going to be great for you.
I can already tell.
Good.
Yeah.
Even you like to ski, put together some ski event or club or whatever where you bring a bunch of
women together and, you know, you all go skiing and talk about shit.
Well, I have my friends that I do that with already.
Oh, that's good.
There's a business idea in there, though.
I think one is there.
Yeah, no, I like it.
I like it.
Team building, a team building ski trip.
There you go.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, corporate events. I mean, that's great. Yeah, yeah. I've done events. I've done just probably about everything in marketing. So there's just like there's so many things, so many directions. Yeah. Just get, get, it gets quiet and get with yourself and just like write down all the things that are appealing to you. And everything will start to come into focus. You know, if you just allow the time and allow yourself the freedom to walk away from your job and know you're doing that and take a leap of faith in your own competency and see what what that shapes out to be.
Yeah, that's great. That's great. I appreciate it so much. Yeah. And it's the reason why that job ended because you're supposed to be doing something else. So you're right. Life had to usher you out of it, you know. Those are never like great experiences to go through, but sometimes it's that forcing function that you need it. Yeah. Absolutely not. But yeah, needed a push. Yeah. And it's summer. So I get to enjoy that with my kids. So I'll take it. All right, Meg. Will you follow up with us? I will. I will. I will keep you posted. Thank you.
Thank you so much for having me. It's so nice to meet you all.
Thanks, Ben. Thanks for calling in.
All right. Thank you. Bye.
Bye, bye.
Okay, Wanda, before we go, I just want to ask you, what is the worst piece of advice that anyone's given you?
To wear more, like, dresses on stage.
And what I said, what they said more, I was like, I'm never, what are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
Can you see that?
Can you see me come out some nice long, like floral, flowy?
Yeah, I know.
People have told me that so many times, too.
It's like they have one, they have the same advice for all women.
Wear more dresses.
I had the guy at the laugh factory telling me to put a bird on my shoulder.
He said I should put a bird on my shoulder.
Jamie Massada.
But, you know, that was another thing in your special when you were, when you were dancing
around and showing, when you were demonstrating, you were like losing, I was like, when
she stops moving like that like what was that what was that shuffle you were doing you were acting out
oh the new edition oh yeah yeah the new edition dance music yeah when you were done when you were doing that
i was like that's too much exercise while you're on stage i'm like when she stops that let's see how
she's breathing i was winded i know that was that was really worth it though that was good stuff well wanda
thank you so much for being with us today everyone her special thank you that was fine it's out now on
Netflix. It's streaming and it's called Legacy. Make sure you watch it. Thank you. Thank you so much.
Say hello to Alex for me. Will you please? I will. Okay. Thanks. Take care. Bye.
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I explore the wild lives of rock stars
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These are the stories you haven't heard,
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