Dear Chelsea - Finding the Plot with Cheri Oteri

Episode Date: June 11, 2026

Cheri Oteri (Scary Movie 6) is here to chat with Chelsea about the power of a salmon plank, why she left SNL at the right time, and how the former First Lady helped her through her breast cancer diagnosis.  Then: Can you steal a baby name?  A 30-something seeking a burial plot has lost the plot.  And a widow wrestles with a cross-country move after losing her husband.    * Book Mentions: Near Death in the ICU * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Joy 101 on the IHeart Radio. app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, guys, here are my dates for the High and Mighty Tour. In June, I will be in Portland, Oregon, Seattle, and then Hyannis, Massachusetts, and then two shows in Nantucket. In August, you can find me in Red Bank, New Jersey, Montclair, New Jersey, and Calgary. That's Canada. And September, I will be in Santa Barbara, San Diego, New York City, Philly, and New Haven, Connecticut.

October is Atlanta, Baltimore, Saginaw, Michigan, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Boise, Idaho, and Spokane. And then in November, I'll be in San Francisco. I'm coming to Salt Lake City, Austin, Houston, Dallas, babies, I'll be there. And then in December, I am closing out my tour in Denver and Vancouver. So get your tickets at Chelseahandler.com for the high and mighty tour. Hi, Catherine. Hi, Chelsea. Hello.

I excuse my stuffiness. Like I have post nasal drip, which is what I have. Damn, I hate when that happens. Yes. Are you getting a sore throw from it? That always does that to me. No, I'm recovering from something else. I've had ongoing issues all year.

I don't know what my problem is, but now it's post nasal drip. So I sat last night. I got my eyebrows tattooed on. Oh. Oh. Yeah. So that was like a three-hour excursion. And thank you.

Yeah. Hopefully this will save me lots of time. Yeah. And I feel like the best thing you can say is like I didn't notice that you you got your eyebrows tattooed on? Like that's kind of where you want them to land. Yeah, I think they just fill in the hot spots. Yeah.

Or the not so hot spots. Right, right. So it was an arduous process. I'm glad it's over. Did it hurt? No. I mean, I guess it's slightly uncomfortable. I wouldn't say, I wouldn't categorize it as hurting.

Okay. It's not like pleasant. Sure. But it's not unbearable or something. Yeah. Sure. But as I was lying there, she identified my post nasal drip. Because I kept, when you're lying down, you're like,

which is my constant thing. And she was like, oh, you have post nasal drip. And I was like, oh, you're right. I do have post nasal drip. That's what I have. A tattoo and a diagnosis. Yeah, exactly. She said it was my first tattoo.

I didn't realize that your eyebrows are tattoos. Like when you get, but that's exactly what it is. Yeah, the microneedling or micro, no, microblading. Microneedling is a different thing. But microblading is tattooing? I think so. Because I always see all these girls on TikTok being like, oh, my microblading that they said would disappear in a year and it's five years later and it's still here.

sort of thing. Yeah, I want it to last for five years. I don't want to have to re-juge this. Agreed. Anyway, so that was exciting. I had a fun weekend of shows. We have Portland and Seattle this weekend, which is so easy, breezy, because I stay on the same coast. I love that. And then I'm heading to, you know, the East Coast summertime jams. Hyannisport, Cape Cod Melody Tent, Nantucket. I'm going to bring Yamanika to Nantucket, so they can be introduced to a black woman there because the last time I was there, there were no black people. It'll be their first. So yeah, we need to bring some more black people to Nantucket. Perfect.

I have a crazy story for you. Is it about the mayoral race in LA? Thank God. Thank God Spencer Pratt's out of that. Thank God. I'm very glad about that. I kind of like had forgotten that it was a primary and it was not going to be all of them. But I'm like, if I vote for Nithia, is that going to mean Spencer?

It's going to be Spencer. Whatever. Like I didn't want to anyway. We knew we were going to have Karen Bass in there. I'm starting to understand that L.A. is just completely mismanaged from within. Like, I think that anyone in a mayoral position in this city has a whole council board that they have to deal with.

And it's not easy to get anything done in this city. So we have to change things from the inside out. Like, something different has to happen in the way things are. There's too much bureaucracy. So it's really hard to be a successful mayor in this city. Right, because you can't win, right? Like, you can't side with the people in power or, like, the police or anything like that, but you also need to make systemic change

if you're going to make any change at all in the city. Yeah. It's, well, I'm pro-Nithia Raman. You too. I'm going to support her. I've been supporting her. And at least, I don't know.

You know, I just have to, like, have hope in the city that we can turn things around. I'm so grateful that Spencer Pratt is just no longer involved in this. I don't want to hear that for another five months. Yeah. Nithia, like, she's been in it, like, since the beginning. She's from the ground up. She, I forget what exactly.

happened, but when she was first running for like city council member, something happened where she was planning to campaign for like six months and then it wound up like the vote got delayed or whatever. So she had to campaign for like two years or something. And then she finally got it. Like, you know, everybody has their flaws. But I think she's like actually somebody who's in it to make positive change wherever she can. So. Yeah.

Well, they're not all. I mean, yeah, they're all like, I had so many people saying, what about the dogs on Skid Row? What about the dogs on Skid Row? I'm like, I'm sorry, are we voting for, like, are we not voting for human beings here? Right. Like, that can't be the biggest problem in this city. The dogs on Skid Row, yes, that's terrible. Right.

We all know that I love to rescue dogs, but that's not the number one issue here. Right. There's people before the dogs that we have to be worried about. Almost people. There's, like, 50 square blocks of people on Skid Row. Like, it's enormous. There's a lot of, there's a lot of systemic changes. And she's very, like, pro figuring out what to do about the unhoused and, like,

providing services and yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's what I liked about her. That cabinets were down 54% in her district. And I had people that live in her district that loved her. I also had people that didn't love her, but whatever. We did. We were in her district when she first came around. Yeah, she was in our district. We voted for her from the way beginning. I mean, look, politicians are problematic, but she's got degrees in political theory and

urban planning from both Harvard and MIT. I mean, she's way more qualified than any of these other fucks that are around. And she's a woman. And we love that. And we have a very exciting guest today. You know her from S&L. And just like that and the scary movie franchise, which I'm seeing everywhere. You can also catch her in Celebrity Autobiography in New York City from June 29th through July 6th. Please welcome Sherry O' Terry. Okay, this is great. We have Sherry O'Terry is in the house and she's sitting in very close proximity to me because we're on a podcast and that's what you do. not like when we were at the Netflix brunch where I sat down very close to you to introduce myself because I don't think that we had ever met over the years, right?

And I sat down and I said, hey, I know you're coming on my podcast and she said, I don't like doing interviews. And I wanted to know why you don't like doing interviews. It's not uncommon. A lot of people feel this way. Listen, your podcast is popular and it's kind of like you don't want to say anything that's going to get blown up and used as a headline. That's my specialty.

When you're with me, you're safe because I'm the only one that gets in trouble constantly and creates headlines constantly. That's what I'm hoping for. So you're just, just look at this as like at least the people are going to take my words and use them to make headlines. I admire your balls.

Thank you so much. Like. My labias. Yes. Minora and Majora. Please. include all of them. Okay, I don't discriminate.

Well, I appreciate you saying that, but I'm a huge admirer of yours. I think you are one of the funniest people on the planet. And I love getting to see you in movies because once you left S&L, I'm like, how are we supposed to get our Sherry-O-Terry fix? I mean, you on that show is, just first, let's talk, first of all, let's talk about pickleball. Because you're an avid pickleball. No, I'm not avid. Well, yeah, it seems like.

like you are. No, but I do like it a lot. It's something everybody can do. That's the problem that I have with it is that everybody can do it. And so I don't think it's such a, how do I want to say this? People think that when they're good at pickleball, that means that they're athletic. Not at all. Right. Well, thank you. Thank you for clarifying that. It's about looking athletic, not being athletic. Who introduced you to pickleball? Oh, my cousin in New Jersey, they have a pickleball court. and that's how I started playing. But didn't you find the rules absolutely so confusing, the kitchen and the point system? Yeah, I'm just playing to hit the ball and to get it in where I'm supposed to get it in.

You know, I'm not lazy. But yeah, I mean, anybody can do it. And I'm thinking, what a healthy way to meet people. Because I'd like to meet people. Are you trying to meet people? Sure. What kind of people would you like to meet? Friends, lovers, what are you in the mood for?

Hmm. Is that a loaded question? No. Yeah. This is where the interview part gets to me. I'm so good at. But we're just talking about pickleball, though. Just because pickleball.

Pickleball is a good place to meet people. Pickle ball with a penis. When people, when people, talk about pickleball, one of the first things that they typically say is that it's a great place to meet people. Or it's a great way to meet people. And it's a great way to not overexert yourself while meeting people. Yeah, I went to this court. My friend invited me and there were these guys who were playing and my God, they were playing like, bam. I mean, so hard. And it's fun to watch. But it's not necessarily a spectator sport, but I'm playing, you know, with other.

women and everything and I'm just thinking, God, I'd love to just sit there and watch them play. It's so, they're hitting the ball so hard. Do you like to watch tennis? I'll watch tennis. I'm not an avid tennis watcher. Oh. I like watching basketball.

Well, if you like to see balls being hit hard, tennis is a good... Apparently, I do. Tennis is a good sport to watch. I love watching tennis. Yeah, I went to the Desert Smash. Oh, in Indian Wells? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Palm Desert. Oh. And played pickleball, had a pickupball clinic. Well, hello, lover. That's Doug. Dug, say hi to Sherry.

And it was fun. You know who was one of my instructors? Do you remember? I remember from being a kid. Remember Vince Van Patten? Vince Van Patten. I know that name. The Van Patten, remember Dick Van Patten?

Yes, yes. And he had handsome sons. Oh, it's his son. Yeah. And he's married to Eileen Davis. who was on Young and Restless. Oh, yeah. Very handsome.

Were you a soap opera person? Young and Restless. Okay. Well, first of all, you should know it's the Young and the Restless. I can't even believe you're mispronouncing the title. Some of us abbreviated because we've been so loyal for many years. I was into General Hospital and Santa Barbara.

Those were my two. And that was a conflict because they were both on at the same time. I would watch Santa Barbara sometimes because it was just left over from, it was right after Young and Restless. Yeah, because Young and the Restless went from 1.30 to 230. It was a half hour. break. Like, sorry, it went from like a half hour to a half hour, whereas Santa Barbara was, I think,

three to four or two to three. So you had to pick and choose which soap operas. Robin Wright. Yeah, it was on, was on there. Yeah. Robin Wright was, I was obsessed with Robin Wright because this was before the princess bride. Remember when she was so young and beautiful, she's still beautiful.

She actually just stayed at my house in Majorca. She went there for her 60th birthday. Okay, you know, last name pants, first name, fancy? Look, we just bring up this person. Oh, she just stayed in my place in my own. Of course she did. Yeah, she did. She called me out of nowhere. I hadn't heard from her in about two years. Me either. And I was like, oh, why is Robin facetiming me? This is very strange. And she was with her new lover and they're madly in love. And she's like, Chelsea, we want to spend our, I want to spend my birthday with you. There's nobody I'd rather spend my birthday with. And I'm

like, when is your birthday? And she's like, oh, it's this. And I'm like, I'm on tour. And she's like, is your house in my orca free? And I was like, oh, you want to spend your birthday with my house? I was like, no energy. That requires a lot less effort for me and an easy guy, like a very easy. Now, did she meet him playing pickup ball? I don't think so. She does play pickleball.

I think Robin does play pickleball, but I don't know that they met playing pickleball. I love to know how people meet. Yeah. Are you looking to meet someone? Are you looking to pick up a lover? Is that, are you in the market? Yeah, you know what? Yes.

but I'll tell you something. I do alone so well. Well, I think most women thrive. Like where some women have to be in a relationship, I never felt that way. Never. And so I think because I do alone so well to be with somebody, they've got to be somebody that's like there's chemistry.

I don't need a companion. Yeah. Well, no, of course not. And when, can, do you want to feel comfortable talking about your lot? Like, have you had a long relationship? Did you like being in a long relationship? Or did you like, have you ever lived with someone? And did you like that?

It was easy, I will say. It was easy. And, you know, and during the pandemic and we breathed through it because we both were into cooking. And we ate like, I think we ordered out once or twice. And so we cooked. And then we had our. pot of people and we just cooked and it was, it was, it was great. And then I just realized that I had been single for so long that I thought I was being too judgmental. And I thought, not judgmental,

they have to be this, this, this is, it's really just chemistry, you know. I can, I relate to what you're saying, though. You want to be attracted. You want to love their person. personality and they, you know, to have a great sense of humor. That's not easy to find, especially when you're not looking. And I don't want to look. Let's get back to the cooking. What kinds of things can you cook? What's your signature dish? Cedar plank salmon. Cedar plank salmon? Cedar plank. You're very mean. That's the fuck up, sister. What kind of cedar plank are you working with. You just buy cedar planks and you soak them for, like I'll soak them for overnight.

On the cedar plank. You soak it on the plank? No, you just soak the planks. What is a plank? It's a cedar plank. It is. All I know is the plank position you do in a workout. You can order them on.

What it does is it steams. Once it's completely soaked all the way through, you put it on the hottest barbecue and it cooks the fish through the cedar planks. steam and it just gives it a flavor. It's like the steak of seafood. Because I chop up fresh garlic and parsley from my garden and olive oil, you know, salt and pepper. It's really kind of easy. And then perfect timing of 20 minutes on the grill. Do you flip the salmon or you keep it on one side? You don't flip salmon. No. No. I'm a big salmon eater. So this is actually appealing to me. Not that I have a cedar plank or that I'll ever learn how to use it.

someone else will do that for me because let me tell you something once you do learn how to do it you need a barbecue right you don't have barbecue i'm saving up for one i think i do have a barbecue outside the memorial day sale there's always another sale coming around the courthal i'll wait until labor day sister that's how come in a barbecue no i think i do have a barbecue outside i think i but i'm listen i'm a little bit like i think i have one in my york well i know you do because the new dog was on top of it the other day. Yeah. I got this new rescue who you just met, and he was standing on top of things.

He doesn't, I don't think he can judge height. So he was standing on top of the barbecue, and it's like six feet off the ground. I'm like, do not jump because he is not spry like Doug. He's got a little, it looks like he's been in a couple of bar fights. We don't know where his background is. Right. They said if they found him in a field. And my sister goes, what, can they be more specific baker's field?

Like a field of what? The field of dreams? She's like, what field did they find him in? I'm like, okay, that's a good question. Let me follow up. I love that you rescued, though. Oh, of course. You have animals. Yeah. I'm a big rescue. Are you a cat person, though? I thought you said that.

No. Oh. I mean, I've had a cat before. When I was on SNL, I had a cat. And I love all animals, but I love dogs. I've got, I've had Ricky and then Sweet Mama. And I had them together. And when they passed, I got Adele Castro. And... Fidel Castro or Adele? Adel.

Adel Castro. And Desmond Tutu, Dezzi. Oh, that's cute. But, like, I can't wait to get home to my dogs. I know. There's nothing better. Last night came home and I was like, I just couldn't wait to just be with them and hang out. Like, late nights is fun, you know? And they're getting to know each other, so it's pretty cute. Do you like to talk about SNL? No, what am I talking about SNL?

Was it hard to... How many years were you on SNL? Five. Okay. Was it hard to, it felt like longer than that. Yeah. You were such a staple of that show and you and Will together, I mean, so fun. Thank you. Was it a hard adjustment to leave that show?

No. No. Were you ready to leave? I had a five-year contract and I felt so good about the five years that I had done. And it is emotionally, it's rough. I've heard. I've heard, yes. And if you don't have tools in your tools,

which I didn't even know I had to have a toolbox back then. You know, it's really hard. And so I kind of left just to take care of myself. Yeah, I've heard that from so many people that have worked on that show, that it is a grind and that it is relentless. Well, it's like you're auditioning every week to get a show you already got. Yeah. Truly.

Yeah. And you're competing with writers who are supposed to be writing for you. Right. You know, and you can't, if they don't, no, has to write for you. Right. So it's you writing for yourself. And luckily, I had that background with the groundlings. So it's you writing for yourself and hoping you have somebody to write with. And luckily, I had, you know, Will and I wrote a lot together, Matt Piedmont, I wrote with. And it sucks when you feel like you're competing with the writers. I never felt like I was

competing with my fellow actors. No. It's not fun to be in a work environment. And I've heard that a lot about SNL. And obviously, you know, this is a very revered show. People love it. And, but, like, it is a very hard environment when you're constantly in competition with the people you're at work with. Like, and I know you could probably say that about a lot of jobs, but that's not a fun way for your psyche to exist. It's kind of like you're in survival mode, right? Like fighter always. And it's so funny because the first time I ever did a sitcom, I was like, what is this kind of utopia? Mr. O'Tieri, what would you like in your eggs? I'm like. I'm not. I'm like, what's your angle?

What's your angle? What do you mean? You're in a 10 out of three. You know you're going to be written for? I was just like, this is amazing. So anything after that is pretty, you know, is pretty easy. Like doing even a film and they say, all right, Sherry, you want to go again? And it's like, I could never go again.

There was always you had to get it on one take. Yeah. You know, and it's a great way to train yourself. Yes. It's real discipline. But as hard as it was, I had to say, like, I, it was so amazing to be able to write whatever I imagined, anything I imagined. And, you know, I almost feel like I did that all growing up.

I was always watching and imitating people. I didn't do impressions, but I would glean from, I would, I would, I would, I would, I was, I always felt like I was born without an identity, so I would observe other people so much. And, yeah, I just grew up observing people. What number? How many siblings do you have? Two. I was the middle.

Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's very interesting. I've never heard anyone describe being the middle of two children before. Wow. You were two siblings, too. Oh, oh, I thought she said two.

I was the middle. There were two children. And I'm looking at her. And I'm like, what's getting her about that? What? I was like waiting for the ball to drop or the punchline. Okay, copy that. So there's three total.

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Really? In what ways? You know, it's kind of like, we could have done without you. But yeah, the first. And, you know, my sister, and then the boy, you know, my brother. And, you know, my sister was like this golden-haired, blonde, adorable. And, you know, I came out with a mustache. And so it's like, you better develop a sense of humor.

It's not looking good. Real quick. Real quick. But when I was a kid, I would watch Young and Restless because I grew up around so much chaos. And I just was always amazed at how civilized. I know. People were on soap operas. You know?

So I would always imitate. And no one knew I was doing what I was doing. You know, I was doing my own kind of show. Yeah. But no one, I just used anybody that was around. As, like, my mother would come home and I would have, like, clip on earrings and a scarf. And as she would walk in, and you know how in soap operas, that it's, here's the person, this person, they're both facing forward to the camera.

And so I'd be in front of my mother and I was like, oh, mother, you startled me. I didn't hear you come in. And she'd go, who the fuck you're talking to? I'm like, cut. Reset. And, like, she was gorgeous, but had, like, the worst mouth. And she was rough. All the women were rough.

In your family? Oh, yeah. Really? Like in an Italian way? In what kind of way? Half Irish. Just rough. Like no charm.

It was dog-eat-dog. Really? Yeah. Competitive? No, not competitive. It was just surviving. survival. Survival.

Okay. You know, and I was so sensitive and I, you know, you grew up thinking there's something wrong with you. Like, why am I not tough like that? Uh-huh. And hence not wanting to do interviews. To talk about these very subjects. Yeah, right, right, right, right. Did I read that you're a life coach?

No, gosh. No, I played a life coach for AMC. It was like a digital thing that I did years ago. And I thought, you know what? while I'm waiting, I'll, I'll do an online course. I thought, you know, maybe it'll help me in the, you know, back end of it. Help myself, you know, people become therapists to maybe help themselves. So I did and it didn't help.

I wanted to get the verbiage down and all of the, you know, the nomenclosure of the life coach. What do you think about life coaches in general? Like people who hire. personal cheerleaders to me. Right. You know, and it's like, I said this as a, why pay so much money and deal with the past when it's a lot cheaper and it's about today and moving forward, right? Which, that sounds good, you know.

But yeah, I really think they organize your brain. I thought there was some legitimacy to it. After I, you know, took the classes. I was like, okay, I can see where this is helpful. Well, for a certain personality, I would imagine. that a life coach is really helpful because it's like, I remember going into therapy and I was like, I don't really want to deal with the past. I'm like, I just would like to move forward with some better habits. And he almost laughed at me. He's like, well, in order to do that, we actually have to deal with

the past. And I'm like, but why? Like, that's done. Like, I just would like to focus on forward movement. And what he should have said is like, well, what you're looking for is a life coach, not a therapist, you know, or a psychiatrist. But they're not going to pass you all. to a life coach. But I do see how it can help. Some people just need that personal cheerleader, you know, but I love doing it. I don't think anybody saw it, but I thought it was so funny, fun. I loved doing it. Yeah, it was Liza Life Coach. Liza Life Coach. And were you doing a character? Yeah. Yeah, just very close to myself. Close to yourself. I did it, shot it in New York. And it was so much fun. But yeah,

I went so up. So you're an L.A. girl, not a New York girl. No. I'm from just outside of Philly. Mm-hmm. And when I moved here, I moved here to get in the music business. I worked at A&M Records. Oh.

Yeah, I wasn't trying to be an actress. Really? Mm-hmm. So then what happened? I was like, wow, if I'm ever going to make a fool of myself, this would be the time. I don't know anybody here. And because people always said, oh, you should do stand-up, you should do stand-up, but I couldn't imagine being myself.

and on stage. So then a woman said to me, oh, you should do the groundlings. And I said, what's that? She said, it's an improv troupe. I said, what's improv? And I had no idea. And I went down the groundlings and I saw,

and like the clouds parted. I couldn't believe this place existed. I was like, this is like Saturday Night Live on stage. And so I started taking classes. And I had a great job. at A&M. I loved. I worked in promotion. I worked in publishing. And then... And so you did that and then you did Ground Links on the side? Yeah. And I got into the main company after years. And I had an manager, a commercial agent and said, this isn't a fluke. You need to quit your job. And I was so

scared, you know, it's like changing, completely changing careers. How old were you at this time? Maybe 30. Okay. Something like that. And so I did and I started just temping at Disney Legal. And it wasn't fun. I was just, you know, temping. Temping, I just want to say, not to interrupt you, but I just want to interpose that temping is one of the most soulless jobs you could do. I did that for years.

Because you think, oh, I'm going to meet people. And what it is is nobody wants to get close to you because they feel like they're cheating on the person that you're temping for. Right? You're going to be gone. I'm not investing in you. Yes, exactly. And it was so lonely. What was funny was a year and a half later, after I got SNL, I had a meeting with one of the lawyers there.

And it was so funny because the lawyer that I met said to my manager, why is she talking to all the assistants out there? And it's because she was working with them a year and a half ago. Oh, yeah. So funny. And, you know, it was really nice because so many people are doing something to do something else. You know, and it, I think, inspired, I guess. But it was so nice to go back there and see all those people that I was, you know, where I was definitely, who didn't talk to me.

I guess now I'm safe to talk to. And then I got S&L and S&O is like my first job. And what was that audition process like for S&L? Oh, you do four or five characters in seven minutes, something like that. And were any of the characters the characters you ended up doing on the show? The lady on the porch. The Italian lady on the porch. I keep it now.

But the groundlings was everything. It taught me everything. And it was the perfect, you know, training ground for SNL. And I had to write because I was working at A&M. So I couldn't meet other people to write as much as, you know, the others that were acting. So I wrote by myself a lot. And it was little did I know. You know, something, because you think that you're going to be written for on SNL.

And it's like, oh, no, that's a nice big surprise. But Lorne Michael said, we want you to continue writing. I was so flattered. And it was like, oh, no. And you don't get paid for writing. Didn't he, didn't I read sometime that he never actually officially hired you? Is that a true story? No, he did.

He did? Like, you never were told. Or that you didn't realize you had gotten the job and that when he called you back. Oh, yeah. He said, we want you to come to New York. And I'm like, to shop. for the day, like finish the sentence. Oh, yeah. You know, but I feel divinely I was guided there because I would have never dreamt that big.

That's nice. You know? Yeah. And it's like, how do we get her out here? How do we, let's see, let's have John break up with her, break her heart, feel like there's nothing left for me there. Oh, wow. And I always wanted to live in California, always.

And it was truly, I felt like, divinely, like, how do we get her out here? You know, and... To get out here after S&L, you mean? No, no, to get me to L.A. to get into the groundlings. Right, okay. But then you moved to New York. When I got S&L. You, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. It would have been amazing if you had filmed S&L from L.A. and just never went to New York. What a commute. I used to come back every time I had a two-week hiatus. Because you love it here. I do. Yeah.

I really do. What are your favorite things? about Los Angeles? Just the skyline. It's just, I mean, the landscape. You know, I was always amazed when I moved here, and I couldn't believe driving home from waitressing from Carlos and Charlies. Do you remember Carlos and Charlie's on sunset?

No. It was a club. It was like a nightclub. Uh-huh. And I was waitressing there while I was looking for a job. And I remember coming home from there into the valley. I could not believe how beautiful. the lights were coming into the valley.

Like, it's still so beautiful to me. Driving on Mulholland, like at dusk or at night is always, really, always reminds me. Like, you know, I used to have a studio at Universal and I would live in, like, Bel Air, and I would just take Mahaland every day, even though it took, like, you know, an extra 25 minutes. Because that drive, I always just cemented how much I love the beauty of this place. Because I think L.A., like L.A., I go through phases where I really, appreciate L.A. And then there are times where I'm like, oh, this place is just lame. There's no vibe here, you know. The only thing it bugs me is it's, it's, it is this business. It's everywhere.

You know, I love when I just meet an accountant. Yeah. But how often do you get to meet accountants? Are you meeting a lot of accountants? Just my own. But it, you know, it's, I missed the diversity of occupation. I mean, there are, you know, yes, it is. But, you know, it is. but it's so central to this business. So centralized and you can't kind of get away from it unless you get away from it. That's right. Yeah. What is your relationship with like your celebrity?

Like how do you look at that? Because it's weird. I never ever really felt like a celebrity and I didn't ever lean into it. And I've never bothered by people and I don't, you know, get asked for my autograph. much or, you know, I live a really, like, you know, I'm at Home Depot, I'm at Lowe's, I walk in the dogs, and I don't live a life like a celebrity. Okay. You know?

What are your female relationships like at this stage in your life? Great. I have really good friends. And how long have you had them? Oh, my gosh. Well, my best friend was the publicist at NBC. Oh, okay. But I was there.

She loves you. She was like, are you excited about Chelsea? And you're like, no, I hate being interviewed. And yeah, if one more tells me to, one more person tells me to be myself and have fun. Fuck that. I'm not going to beat myself and have fun. And, oh my gosh, my buddy Cameron and Nadine, Aaron. And do you hang out with your girlfriends as a big group?

Do you hang out with girls one-on-one? Sometimes we'll like play cards. What kind of cards? Rummy Cube or I buy and let me see. I thought Rummy Cube was the with the pieces. No, there's the tiles, yeah. Yeah, that's the tiles. I'm into that now.

I got my neighbors. I have great neighbors, great women. We'll come over each other's house and I'll do a charcutory board happy hour or they'll do it. Not as good as me, but that's not a competition. Do you make a mean charcutory board? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. What do you put on your charcutory bar?

Do you use your salmon plank for your charcutory board to smoke your meat the night before? That's we're going to ease into dinner. Okay. You know, but yeah, boy, I'll tell you, the women, friends, I'll tell you something that recently happened. My friend had invited me to this dinner he was hosting for the Milken Institute. What is the Milken Institute to again? Women's health issues, right? So I said, yeah, and Jill Biden was a chair.

And first, I'm driving down the street and there's all these cops that are stopping everybody. And I was like, oh, my gosh. And I said to the cops, you know, where can I park? And he said, anywhere you want. So this is where I parked it, Chelsea. Let's just start with a bunch of beepy dudes. What are you on? I said, hey, fellas.

The guy asked me, he goes, can I take a picture with you? And I said, oh, sure, if I can take a picture with you guys. And he's like, you want to get on the bike? And I go, yeah. He's like, you want to play with the lights? I'm like, yeah. You want to play with the lights? I did.

But anyway, I go in there and chilled by and immediately came up. And she goes, now, Sherry, are you from Philly or Jersey? And I said, I'm from outside of Philly, but I'm in Jersey a lot. And she's like, I'm from Jersey. I said, I know you're from Hamilton, the blueberry capital of the world. All right. And yeah, and she said, yeah. And I said, Jill, when I found out that you were from Jersey, it was everything for me not to call you and ask you to pick up a bag of ice on the way.

And she just started laughing and we just started talking. And then I'm sitting with all of these women, all of these accomplished, powerful women. And they were talking about in all these different occupations, but in women's health care. And there were investors there. And I'm just listening and listening to everybody speak. And it was the weirdest thing because I was just diagnosed with DCIS, with breast cancer. I'm saying they're quiet. And I'm like, this is so serendipitous, you know, that he's like, I want you to come and just be my guest.

And I'm listening to all these women. And then at the end, Jill came up to me and we were saying, goodbye and I told her that I was just diagnosed and she said, when is your surgery? And I said the 26th. And she said, all right, you're going to get tired of me. And she says, I'm going through this with you. This woman, like before my surgery, after my surgery, she just, she goes, I am with you on this. I was blown away. And then she was coming out to L.A. and she's like, let's have coffee. And I said, all right, I'll come to your hotel. And she goes, I don't want to, I don't want you to come here.

There's so much security. And I go, yeah, for you. You know, like she was bothered by the security there. And so we met at this coffee shop. And we just talked for two hours. And she was just, that is a woman with a huge heart. And through everything, she's like checking on me and just a beautiful, human being. So I never felt so supported. That's really nice to hear. You know, by my friends,

my girlfriend's. And so, you know, she goes, you're going to get sick of me. Text you going to. I'm like, seriously, Jill, knock it off. I'm okay. But what was funny was we were sitting there and we're talking about everything with coffee. And she goes, Sherry, you're really, you're really brave. And I go, Jill, I caught it early. So that's my message to everybody, too, is, you know, get your mammogram. I caught it really early. Oh, thank goodness. Yeah.

Yeah. And I just had surgery two days ago. You, what? From this? Mm-hmm. And this is your experience with Jill just now? Mm-hmm? Oh, this is present.

Oh, my gosh. I was thinking this was like a year ago or. No, this is like a couple days ago. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. How are you feeling? Great. Oh, look at you. What a blessing. Yeah. You're sitting here healthy and happy. Oh, wow. Yeah, the next day I was like, wow, I'm okay. And I just had a lumpectomy. And the other advice I want to give is get a second opinion. The first doctor I went to suggested something way more aggressive. And I'm like, what? Wait, I caught it early and that is what you're proposing, you know, to do.

I was like, that doesn't make sense. And I called a friend of mine who's a gynecologist, Sherry Ross, and she said, don't do anything until you talk to my friends. So I went to another hospital and had all my records transferred. And she said to me this Dr. Grumley, she said, Sherry, that's way too aggressive. And if I didn't get a second opinion, You know, if you need to, you need to, right? But she said that, you know, you don't need to.

And so I just had a lumpectomy and everything looks normal, fine. Oh, thank you for sharing that. I mean, this is helpful to so many women listening. Yeah, I mean, truly get your mammogram, of course, but also get a second opinion. Yes. You know what I mean? With everything. I wouldn't have. I really wouldn't have unless Sherry suggested that I do that. And yeah, I mean, I'm fine. And, you know, like, who would have thought like I'd have Jill Biden constantly calling me and texting me? Are you okay? What they say? You know, it's, but what's funny when we were having coffee, she goes to me, Sherry, you know, you can be vulnerable and it's okay to break.

And I go, Jill, I'm fine. Really, I'm good. And she's like, you know, you don't have to be so brave all the time. And I go, Jill, seriously. I feel like I'm not scared. I'm really okay. I'm not in any pain. She goes, Joe wasn't in any pain either, Sherry.

All right, I'm scared now. Are you happy? Are you happy? Joe wasn't in. But she was just hands-on. That's beautiful. It's really beautiful when women who you don't know well, I mean, obviously the women in your life want to show up and protect you and be there for you, especially during times like the one you're describing. But when a stranger shows up in your life and is also that support ballast for you, it is really profound.

It is so profound because here it's all about women's health issues and what we need to do, what's not being done. And sitting around and listening to all these accomplished women talking about, this and me just kind of, you know, taking it all in, but sitting there just being diagnosed and thinking, okay, there's a reason for this. And, but luckily, I got through it like a champ. And I did have to have a second surgery because I didn't get it all. But. So was yesterday or two days ago your second surgery? Okay. And when was the first surgery? Maybe a month ago. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It And no pain, no, I not even took anything for pain. Wow.

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We have live callers calling in. Yes, we do. Yes, we do. For our very special guests. I'm so glad that you shared that and I'm so glad that you're healthy. And I'm so glad to hear this Jill Biden story. It's all just beautiful. It's beautiful.

woman's shit. I know, I got to tell you, I've never felt so grateful. Unless you're just making it all up because you were nervous to do an interview. You know, that could be it too. You could have canceled. I mean, two days ago. Oh, now you tell me. Look, even Doug is interested now. Look, you've got his attention. Hello. Doug, that's empathy and compassion. So our first question is just a really quick question. Britt says, dear Chelsea, my best friend lives in another state and we each have one kid. I'm due with my second in about a month. When I excitedly told her what I want to name the baby, she got all quiet. When I prodded, she told me that was her favorite baby boy name that she'd told me about years ago.

Honestly, I'd completely forgotten that she had, quote, picked that name. I feel bad, but my husband and I both love it. Should I use the name? Oh. I mean, come on. The friend doesn't have the baby yet? No. Well, they're both pregnant right now.

Oh, I don't know. I mean, can't they do it? Or no, she says, I'm due with my second. Sorry, I don't think they're both pregnant. I think she's due with her second. Yeah, if her friend isn't pregnant, I would say if the friend had been pregnant, then that is kind of like, but why not just name them both the same fucking name? Who cares?

I know. Really? Yeah. She lives in another state. Yeah. That's ridiculous now. Yeah, yeah. You don't own names.

That's not true. Right, right. Her friend needs to have like James Jr. No, just kidding. But, um, okay. Is that the name, James? I'm like, oh my God, honestly. I wrote of the James.

Do you see how he's coming closer to you? He loves you. He senses, yes. He senses. He's sensitive like that. It's very interesting. Anytime I'm upset, all my other dogs would leave the room when I would cry. This dog, whenever I'm upset, he comes right into the room and comes right up to me.

I have, my, uh, Desi, whenever I'm mad, which I'm hardly ever, he, like, if I'm, uh, angry at him, he doesn't really pay attention. But if I'm angry, if I was saying, what do you mean? What happened? And he'll look at me and go right outside and then stare at me from the outside window. Like, wait until, and then I just look out and I go, I'm okay, honey. I'm all right. Like it's so weird how, you know, I can tell him, no, don't do that.

And he's like, fuck you. You know, but if he senses that I'm angry, he knows when it's real. And he goes outside and just stares at me. Yeah. They're on a different. They're on a different. see they're on. I would love to be able to visually see where, you know, where they land and how they relate to us. It's kind of like, I joke in my stand-up, people who are always like,

don't you wish you knew what your dogs were thinking? I'm like, no, I don't want to fucking find out what my dog is thinking. That's why I have a dog, not a kid. I'm not looking for a feedback loop at all. I don't want to think and I don't want you to think. But I am interested to see what they know and what they don't know. When my dad passed away, I went and got his dog and whenever I would talk really sweet to her, she would get on her back and just, you know, open her legs and arms. And so when I would take her to the park and people are, their dogs are doing tricks, I would go, sweet mama, where's your coin purse? Where's your coin purse? Where's your coin purse? She got on her back and open her legs. I love when they get in that position. Because you know they look like those old-fashioned coin purse.

Right? And people were like, how did you train her to do that? What a weird command. Well, our first caller today is Julie. Brad, do we have Julie on the line? Okay, so Julie says, dear Chelsea, how does one choose a burial plot? I'm in my 30s and certainly hope I won't need one for many years, but I also realize everyone has to do this at some point before they die,

and I thought you might have some advice. Are burial plots like condos? Do you get one that works for now and just buy and sell them as you move cities or your circumstances change? I've moved several times as an adult. and will likely move again, so I don't feel particularly strongly about being buried in my current city, my hometown, or anywhere else. I'm single, though certainly open to a long-term partner in this lifetime, but don't plan to have kids.

Should single people get a plot for one or a two-bedroom just in case? Cremation seems simpler for a girl on the go, but is not for me. My parents are divorced, and my mom got their two plots in the settlement. She frequently reminds me that she will the extra plot to me. If I don't get my own plot, I'll be stuck arguing with this woman until the end of time. So there's a little pressure to figure this out on the earlier side. I hope you'll live forever and do this podcast another 100 years. But if you're comfortable sharing, I'd love to hear if you've made this decision for yourself

and how you did it. I don't have a death wish. I swear. Thanks, Julie. Okay. You've got to put your headphones on for this, Sherry, because that's Julie right there. Julie. Hi, Julie. I love how you're like, I'm a gal on the go.

I don't have time for a funeral. You're so funny, Julie. I can't believe you're worried about this is the first time anyone is called in about buying their own burial plot. And I honestly, first of all, you already have one next to your mother. I really don't believe you guys will be fighting in the afterlife. I love that you are consumed with this. I've never heard anyone talk about this ever at your age.

Why do you think you are so consumed with this? I am a planner. I mean, part of it I certainly put off making like, you know, real decisions in my life by focusing on these not a media decisions. I definitely think about it when I do talk to my mom and she reminds me that I've got this plot waiting for me in Cleveland. I've been thinking about it since I went to go visit my dad, the like total solar eclipse was over my dad's place and I went to visit and I was like, where are we watching this eclipse? And he was like, oh, at my cemetery plot. I own it. No one else is going to be disturbed by a being there. I was like, oh, people kind of hang out. I love it. You

You use your plot before you die. Yeah. There's a lot of plot talking in your family, so I feel like it's erreditary. I honestly don't have that. I haven't planned for my... I want to be cremated, so I know you said you don't. But if this is really... I just don't know how you can discern at this stage in your life.

What if you meet someone? What if you end up having a big family? What if you marry somebody who has children and you want to be buried with their family? I mean, being buried, not... next to your mom to me sounds like a fine idea. A backup plan? Yeah. Well, but also it's already a built-in plot and you're obsessed with plots and you already

have a plot in Cleveland. I would not say this is a consuming problem for me. I just, I honestly never knew any, like nobody my age is buying the cemetery plot. I don't know if this is a thing people have. You're a gal on the go. You need ashes that are on the go. Yeah. You know?

I think you should reconsider cremation. I do too. It's better for the environment. And also then you don't have to, this is way, why are you against cremation? I'm not against cremation generally. It's not traditionally Jewish to do cremation. Right, right. Yeah.

You can pick out your urn now. Even if you cremate, you have to decide where your remains goes. True. Can't they just go in the plot next to your mother? She's really attractive. to get you next to mom. I'm Jewish too, but I don't really hold any regard for like, you know, what we're supposed to do based on our religion. I honestly don't know what to tell you, except for the fact that I don't think you should be thinking about this at this stage.

You don't know where life's going to take you. You said you're only in your 30s, right? Yeah, that's why I was just wondering if people just hold off on this. Do people do this? Have you thought about your plot? Is this a thing? I'm going to know, but I do love Forest Lawn. I do. Every time I drive past there, I'm like, if I don't cremate, this is where I want to be. Forest lawn is a really nice cemetery in the valley. I was going to say in America. In the valley in Los Angeles.

So if you are looking for a nice cemetery, you should check that one out. But I don't have a lot of cemetery referrals. Yeah. You should Google, like America's most beautiful cemetery. Yes, that's a great idea. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I could be consumed with, you know, becoming more famous.

could get into one of the nicer cemeteries. No, it's really not. It's not something that I think about often. Could you imagine? I can't get into that cemetery. Everybody wants to get in. It's too hot. Who do you know? You got to know somebody. Oh, it starts at preschool and ends in death. Oh, my God. Just got into wagon wheel cemetery. I do really appreciate the question because you really liven things up and freshen things up in terms of questions. She livening things up about death. Uh-huh. That's right. Not a lot of people can do that. But it's also a great conversation starter for when you're out and about and see what other people are saying. Yeah, maybe I'll just start asking people.

Bringing it up. I don't know if people just kind of have this. The people that I know that have plots are, have some sort of like family plot that they're very tied to, which. Yeah, we didn't get a plot in our family. I remember my brother died. So then they, my parents had to get him obviously unexpectedly like a plot. And then they bought their two plots so that they would be buried next to him.

and then the rest of us were like, I guess we'll just do our own thing. I have no fucking idea what to tell you. I don't, but I really like the question. The rest of you are on your own. For what that's worth. The one thing I will say as like the daughter of an elder law attorney because I have this sort of useless information rattling around,

later in life you can pre-buy a plot and it doesn't necessarily have to be attached to a certain location, but you can like spend the money on a plot to like guard some of your assets it's like one of the things that elder law attorneys do to help safeguard your estate so but that's down the road oh but that seems like it's perfectly dovetails with what she's trying to accomplish so maybe you talk to an elder law attorney yeah yeah start talking an elder law attorney oh my gosh they're gonna I don't know what that person would say to this question I know I don't know I just you know things come up in life and um it turns out people have

been thinking about them for years. Yes. I do want more questions like this. So if you have questions like this, please write into this. Yes, please write in so we could give you non answers. We're very excited about that. As I was, you know, leading up to this conversation, I was like, I feel like people write into this podcast and they're like, my husband isn't flossing.

What do I do? And then once they get on the phone with you, they're like, I actually have an update since I talked to Catherine. I've murdered my husband. if you have any advice for like standing of comedy careers in prison? I'm like, what update do I have that I've died since I wrote in? I don't know. It's not, this will be an ongoing conversation.

I think it, yes, it is you need to keep a surprise of what you do find out because I think you're going to start a whole new trend for this podcast. I find death very, very interesting. Do you? Yeah, because I did this thing where I, for like two years, I just went to bed and I would always just listen to near-death experience stories. They're so beautiful. I love that.

It's like being told a story and I would fall asleep to the most beautiful story that everybody from every background, you know, they experience, especially with medical advancements, so many people are being revived and the stories are so beautiful. Where do you find those? On YouTube? Yeah, and I just read a book of near-death experiences. I'll put the link in the description. Brian Weiss.

Betty J. E. Brian Weiss. I've read so many books on near-death experience stories and they change the lives of the people that have had the experience. Is that many masters, many lives, Brian Weiss? Okay. Yeah, he has a couple books. Yeah.

So start reading books about death. Okay? I was going to say, I wonder if that prompted any of them to go ahead and buy a cemetery. I think you need to start some sort of online club or a Facebook group to find out how many other people. are like you thinking about this. Yeah, like a chosen family cemetery, I think would be. Yeah, yeah.

Find people with the same interests. Exactly. You come from a dysfunctional family. You get to choose. Who can you? Oh, well, thank you for calling in. Thanks. Thank you so much.

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Yay. Listen to Snapu on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, I do have one more caller and she's sort of like on the brink of starting a new life. Do we want to? Sure. Let's do that and then we'll wrap things up. And we have to promote scary movie, which is why you're here in the first place because you're in scary movie and it's coming out. I'm here because of you.

You're here because you love to be interviewed. No, I just love you. Oh. But yeah, scary movies, it should be cool. It's so funny to come 25 years later. I know, I know. Isn't that crazy? It is so crazy all of these things that are happening from 20, like these remakes and

continuations. You're like, when you were little, you thought 25 years was the end of the world. Yes. And the fact that we're all still kind of looking remotely the same. name and the same premises work and the same plot. It is pretty fascinating. Yeah. And it's such a great franchise.

People fucking love scary movies. I can't believe it. I can't believe how much, how excited so many people are for this. Yeah, they really are. You know? Yeah, it was fun. Yeah.

Well, Gretchen says, dear Chelsea, I've been a fan for a long time. I really appreciate how clearly you live your life on your own terms. I'm 41, a therapist in the Midwest and a widow. My husband died by suicide several years ago. Since then, I've done everything I've done. I was supposed to do, grieved, rebuilt, stayed functional, and kept my life together. On paper, it works. I'm stable, responsible, fine. I just don't feel like I belong in it. Internally, I feel

more and more out of place, stir crazy where I am, craving a different environment, different work, and a different kind of community. I'm planning to move to New York City soon and build something more aligned. I'm open to partnership, even marriage again, but I'm not attached to a timeline and I don't have kids. I'm starting to accept that my life doesn't look anything like I once thought it would or like the lives of most people around me. From the outside, it looks like I'd be walking away from a perfectly good life. I can't always tell if what I'm feeling is real clarity or restlessness, grief, and burnout. So I guess what I'm asking is, how do you trust yourself when your life looks fine but feels off? How do you know you're following your intuition and not just blowing up

something stable because it no longer fits? And how do you fully step into a life that's more honest for you when it doesn't look like what you expected or what anyone around you is choosing. I'm right at the edge of changing my life, and I don't want to ignore that or talk myself out of it. Warmly, Gretchen. Hi, Gretchen. Hi. Hi, what a beautiful letter. This is Sherry or Terry, our special guest today.

Hi, how are you, sweethears? Yeah. First of all, I'm so sorry that you lost your husband. I can't imagine what you must have gone through. Yeah. And your letter almost has kind of the answers that you're looking for. truly like you are stepping into the unknown that is that is not comfortable there are moments of discomfort along the way in all of our lives and the only thing that you can tell yourself all

the time is that none of these phases are permanent all of your feelings of discomfort are temporary and moving into a new space starting a new life which is the exact advice I would be giving you I would say get up and move to a new city and you're already doing that moving into this new version of you and what you said is you're about to live a life. Life is not how you expected it to be. Welcome to the world. Right? Uh-huh.

None of us have gotten exactly what we wanted or when we wanted to get it or have held on to the people that we love the most. It just doesn't work that way. But what is beautiful is when you accept the situation that you're in and you figure out how to make that beautiful and how to be. build back again because there is so much beauty in that. And I have no, no qualms or uneasiness about how bright your future is. Just your letter alone. You've already got it. You're there. You're doing it all. Light breaks you down to open you up. Uh-huh. Yes. What do they do? Snap. This is it.

This is what the kids do. And adults, actually. So I guess I am. I'm telling you, everything, you have the answers, but you're judging yourself. And, you know, it's a, you adhere to these social norms that just don't fit you, you know? So it's kind of like, you already know what to do, but you think you're supposed to be sure. Everything is supposed to be, there's no guarantees. But, you know, the old thing of follow your heart and where you think you might want to go, I'm telling you, if bad things didn't happen to me, I would have probably gone in a direction that wouldn't have served me well for the long run. Yeah, talk about unexpected life. I mean, everything we've just talked about, you weren't expecting in your life, but also the unknown is comfortable and trust the

unknown. When things are uneasy and you're not sure, trust it. Just trust where you're supposed to be. And I know that doesn't feel, sometimes that feels like something like trite to say, but it is the biggest lesson that I have learned is the moments of discomfort, there is always a light at the end of your tunnel, always. And there's going to be another tunnel too. And then there's going to be a light at the end of that. So just make sure when you're in these moments, you're really in them. When you're in the grief, be in it.

When you're in the light, be in the light. And trust yourself because you're on the right track. Yeah. The universe is moving you. You're emitting light. I can see it coming off of your like, body, your soul. I can smell. I can smell it. I love it. So, so you're doing everything. And we're cheering you on, sister. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I think I just wanted the permission.

Yes. You got it. Yes. Go live out loud. Oh my gosh. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Sending you so much love. Thank you. Keep us posted. Send us a postcard when you get to New York, okay? I will. Absolutely. Yes. I will do. Awesome. Thanks Gretchen. Bye, bye, Gretchen. Oh, that was awesome. I know. What a wonderful ending to today's episode. I love that.

And she's got like a timeline too. Like she's like on the move. It's probably happening a few months. What a beautiful letter. Pick up the pieces. That's a great letter for anyone who's sitting listening to this thinking like how do I pick up the pieces of an unexpected, you know, something happening in your life that's unexpected.

which is what life is. Sherry, I love you. You are just a bundle of joy. Scary Movie 6 is in theaters now. You can go experience that bundle of joy. And I'm doing celebrity autobiography. Oh, great. Oh, I'm going to come see you.

Yeah? For sure. When does that start? Okay, it's already started, but they're changing cast members. And I am doing it from, I'll be there until the sixth. So like I think the 29th of every month. The end of June. Sassy pants. The end of June.

Okay. I'm going to be there. June 29th through the 6th of July. Yeah. I will come to see you. All right. I have that window because I'm going on a trip and I'm going to come through the East Coast. I'm coming to see you.

And I'm going to my Yorka. Yeah. As soon as Robin's out. Yeah. Yeah. Get out of my house, Robin, right? I love it. Thank you for being here.

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