Dear Chelsea - Guided with Laura Lynn Jackson

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

Intuitive Laura Lynn Jackson joins Chelsea to talk about universal intelligence, signs from our loved ones who’ve gone before us, and how we’re all interconnected in ways we may never know. Then: A new mom seeks contact with the husband and daughter she lost.  A couple struggle with their desire to pursue a relationship with a surprise sibling.  And a daughter seeks to heal her relationship with her mom, even though she passed away. But are the signs already there?   * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Okay, guys, the high and mighty tour is about to begin. Tour starts on February 13th, everybody, D.C., I will see you there to jump things off. February 14th, Atlantic City, which I just added, Madison, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Detroit, Michigan, Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati, Ohio. Denver, Colorado, Portland, Maine, Providence, Rhode Island, Springfield, Massachusetts, April 3rd, which is in Ronert Park, California. That has just been added. Chicago, of course. Indianapolis, Indiana, Louisville, Kentucky, Albuquerque, Mesa, Arizona, Kansas City, Missouri, St. Louisville, Missouri, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Nashville, Tennessee, Charlotte, North Carolina, Durham, North Carolina. May 6th, I'm doing Netflix as a joke festival. I will be in Los Angeles. That is a new announcement, Saratoga, California, Monterey, California, Modesto, California, and Portchester, New York, Boston, Massachusetts, Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington.

I will be touring from February through June. Go to Chelseahandler.com for tickets. If you want to come see me perform, I will be on the high and mighty tour. Hi, Catherine. Hi, Chelsea. How are you? We just came back from a heli ski trip. That was really fun.

Oh, so are you, like, dropping out of the helicopter into the snow? Yes, yes, basically. But you're not jumping out in your skis. You jump out of the helicopter. And then the guide has your skis in, like, a little basket on the side. So it's quite dramatic, actually. You have to, like, sit there and get down while the helicopter takes off and then snow swirls around, and you're on the top of a fucking mountain once he leaves.

So then you have to ski down. down and you have no choice. There are times I worry about your physical safety. There are times where I worry about my physical safety. I was with my whistler starting four. We went to Bella Kula heli skiing. It was just so ridiculous and fun. And we shot my birthday video.

And I definitely got hypothermia. So there's that. And then we tore the lodge up. We were there. It was like being on safari, but in snow. And we had one day where we couldn't ski because of weather. So that led to drinking and, you know, other things. things. And we just really tore that place apart. And I just want to say thank you to Bella Kula,

because they invited us and it was a home run of a trip. And now I'm getting ready to go home to start. I'm going home for L.A. so I can pack for my tour. And I start this weekend with D.C., Atlantic City and Virginia. Yeah, you're doing a bunch of traveling. Are you going, you're not going to the Olympics, are you? No, I'm not going to pop by this time. I know you had mentioned it was, you had threatened. It could happen. Yeah. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go for my birthday, I've decided to go to Finland. Wow. Yes.

I'm going to go ski under the Northern Lights, hopefully, or we're going to see the Northern Lights. I'm going with one of my man friend, my only man friend. I shouldn't say one of mine. Only current man friend. My current cowboy man friend, yeah. That's excellent. I'm so excited for you.

How are you? What's happening? I'm good. I'm feeling better. You know, penetration is back in action. Oh, wow. Yeah, things are doing great. My marriage is wonderful.

Good. You know, I don't know what happened. He's in therapy and, like, he's just been so patient with me lately. It's really nice. I got to tell you. That's nice. A man in therapy, green flags all around. We love to see it.

Yeah, if we could only just get every man in therapy, then we'd be all set and every women, obviously. But I think men have a lot more to work out. And they do. They need the upgrade, as you have called it. I'm so excited about our guest today. She is just a wonderful human being. Our guest today is an author, teacher, speaker, and psychic medium.

Her newest book is called Guided, The Secret Path to an Illuminated Life, which is out now. Please welcome my very good friend, Laurelind Jackson. Okay, yay. We're here with Laura Lynn Jackson, you guys. She has a new book out. It's called Guided, The Secret Path to an Illuminated Life. She's a New York Times best-selling author also. Science, she wrote, Science from the universe, right?

The secret language of the universe. The secret language. The secret language of the universe. You got it. Okay. Laura Lynn Jackson has, I've been friends with you for probably 15, 15 years. I talk about you on this podcast all the time. You've helped me in so many times in my life.

I remember when I broke up with Joe Coy, I called her to see, like, if it was a permanent breakup or if it was a temporary breakup. And first of all, you're so comforting. But she always, she said, this is really about you taking. your highest path possible. She said, so any anger, anything you feel, I just want you to rise up. Like, this is not about, you know, reacting or getting angry or getting, you know, of course I was upset at the time. But she gave me the most powerful advice because I literally took that to heart every single day. I was like, I am above, I am above the noise of this. I am going to rise

above this and act with grace and dignity and not talk badly about anybody or say anything negative. And then she said, and you're going to hear from him. And she gave me a three-day window, like six months from that point. She gave me a three-day window. And she goes, you're going to hear from him. In that three-day window, six months later, which by the time, by that point, you know, I had forgotten about it. But in that time, I didn't hear from him, but I did hear from someone very close to him about him in that time frame. And that's just one of the times that you have been so dead on about stuff with me. And we have a lot of mutual friends who you've helped too.

And then there's other example that I want to share is I was going through a really difficult time when I started getting back into stand-up, like selling my specials. I did my first one with HBO. Then I was shopping the second one. And everyone was passing on it. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. what do you mean? You're passing on me? Like, I feel like I'm like a legend. I'm like, wait, wait, wait. Nobody thinks, nobody thinks. Nobody wants my special. I couldn't believe it. And I called you when I was so upset. I'm like, maybe my career's over. This is like four or five years ago. I was like, the one that you self produced and everything. Yeah, I paid for it. And then I ended up paying for it. And then I was like, I'll just sell it once it's made. And Laura said to me, and Netflix had passed on it. Netflix said we don't, we can't afford Chelsea special or something like that. which was whatever. And I was like, well, I've got to get it on a platform. And Laura goes,

Netflix is going to change their mind and they're going to come back around. And I said, they've already passed. And she said, they're going to come back around. And guess what? Out of the blue, Netflix called and said, we want to buy your special. So two examples out of a million. So anyway, thank you and welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for having me on here. I just love being in conversation with you. Well, you're the best. I mean, you've helped so many people. You're such a warm and fuzzy person to have in your life. You have such maternal energy and you have such like divine feminine, if you will, energy. And it's always very, it comes from such a sincere place and it comes from

such a place of love. And I know you and I know that you have the gift. So while there are many people who claim to have gifts, I think many people do actually naturally have, you know, intuitiveness. And it's about we all do kind of honing your skills, right? Like really understanding how to, Like if you practice something multiple times and for years, you're going to get good at that. A hundred percent. And that's what you've done once you realized that you had a gift because you were in a completely different career. Yes, I was.

I was a teacher. High school English teacher. And high school English teacher. And how did you know that something that you needed to head in a different direction? Yeah, I had no intention of ever leaving teaching. I actually loved it. I just felt so connected to all the students. I felt so fulfilled by it.

It was just the most loving environment. to talk about literature and like inner struggles and outer struggles and inner victories and outer ones and all of that, right? And this ability that I had just got so pronounced after I had my first daughter. And I just started volunteering for an organization called Forever Family Foundation in secret, right? And I would just try and help people in grief. And then I volunteered to do a certain evening event and people from my school found out about it. And we're like, is this you? And my husband's like, you have to go tell the principal, you might need to stop doing this. So I did tell the principal, but she was super supportive and loving about it. And shortly after that, I went and I sat on my

hall duty and I got this insane download from the universe. It was like a seven-hour conversation that took place in a millisecond. And they said to me, you're going to be writing a book. You're going to go be a teacher of this in the world. You're going to go be a speaker. This is going to go on TV. And I thought, like, whoa. So when I get downloads like that, it's not an ask. It's not a question. It's not a discussion. It's an absolute. So I came. home and I told my husband, I was like, I'm going to be writing a book and I'm going to doing this. And he knows enough about this where he's like, okay, let's embrace that. And within 24 hours, everything started lining up where I had somebody offering to be my agent,

somebody offering to help with the writing process. It was amazing. It was such a beautiful nod from the universe. And so I wrote my first book. I took a leave of absence from teaching. And the moment I hit send on my first book to my editor, which you know, Julie, we share an editor. Julie Grouse. She's amazing. Julie Grouch, and now Whitney Frick. We share two editors. I do. See our paths are entertained. We are. And both of whom are so amazing, right?

They're incredible editors, incredible people. But I hit send and I got to download for signs, my second book, right? And I thought, okay, wow. I asked for an extended leave of absence and they were like, nope, you need to come back or you need to resign. And I had no idea what to do. So I waited for what I call my knowing. And it took a while. And one day about, I say I got that directive from my district in February.

And in July, mid-July, that year I woke up from just being asleep and I had absolute clarity that I was leaving teaching. And I was really sad and at the same time really happy. So I sent to my notice at that point. And that's my story. Like I trust my journey. I think teaching was such a beautiful career for me, but I think what I'm doing here, I'm still teaching and this is my. calling. And I think it's so important to go really quiet sometimes within yourselves and find out what your soul is tugging you to. Find out what you're being guided to because there are all different

paths we can take care. Like what you were just talking about when you and Joe broke up and you took this beautiful high path, like your highest path possible in being so light-filled and just being so pure in your own way of being. What you did in that moment, you modeled for countless other people, how to be so grounded in your own light in the midst of a breakup and lost. And to be vulnerable in a way when I was heartbroken to be vulnerable and not try to pretend anything else other than the reality was going on, which is something that, you know, if you hadn't said that to me, I would have just protected myself and not shared anything, you know?

Right. And I was like, oh, yes. And you are one of the only people that I can hear talk about the universe and not want to throw up Because I understand what this book is, which is a beautiful recollection of so many people's stories and anecdotes about them receiving messages from people who they love that lost. But when you really tune in to you, what you taught me is that when you really tune in to the universe and really accept the fails or the misses without letting it knock you over and just go, well, that's not meant to be. literally, it's not meant to be and let it go, then everything starts coming together in a much more universal way. You see the sign. You see the signs, you know? Like when you accept and you move into acceptance of any situation, everything starts to become easier. It's so true when you surrender that.

And I think things that don't work out for us are profound lessons too. And they build us and they shift us and they create us. But I want to say too, when you were so willing to show your authenticity and vulnerability to everybody, you were guiding people. Here's the thing. We are all intertwined. Like all our lives matter and all affect one another. And so what a great platform that was for everybody to witness your grace, your power, your light, because it informed them on their own journeys. Right? It's so beautiful. Yeah. And I remember the next day because I had done Glennon Doyle's and Abby's podcast. We could do hard things.

And I just let it rip on that. And I woke up the next morning. And there were literally 4,000 DMs from people saying, thank you so much for being honest about your breakup. Thank you for being vulnerable. And that in itself, reading all of those DMs just healed me. Like I was healed. I was like, oh, I just put out my honesty and I got back like a whole big hug from the universe.

So we're going to say universe a lot of. this episode, you guys, so bear with us. And then I would say, you know, with all my house drama that I've talked about on this podcast and all that mess, I definitely have shifted out of that energy phase. I love it. I've now, like, I had to go to my orca. I had to be alone. I had to not drink for a few weeks, eat healthy, work out. But when I called her, which was more than once, about this house, I was like, Laura, what is the lesson? Why is this going on? With so much money, so I'm never, I don't have a home. It's been four years.

I felt, it felt so taken advantage of. And what did you tell me every time? I don't know. What did I tell me? That's funny. You told me. When it comes from me, it comes through me. She said this is not your lesson.

This is someone else's karma. This is not your karma. You're like, you're just here as a vessel. This is not your lesson. And I'm like, as a vessel. And she said, because you, A, you can get through this. You can afford all of this. this. So it's better, like, it's happening to you because you can absorb it. And, and, and,

and it's not about you. It's about other people within this situation. And their lessons and what they were navigating or not doing a good job navigating. Right. And the first time I didn't hear you, I was like, that doesn't make any sense. And then the second time, I, because I was in my orca, and we spoke briefly, well, audio message back and forth. And she said it and it clicked because I was in a space to hear it where I was finally calm and relaxed. And I was like, this isn't the end of the world, you know. Okay. So I want to talk about one of the stories in your introduction, which is about a doctor. And so I want you to tell us this story. The book opens with this beautiful universal connection between two souls. And so tell us the story. So the book opens with a really

quick snapshot of two stories. It's like, I want to tell you two stories. The first is, takes place in 1981 and it's a doctor who has a premature little baby he's caring for. And there's a 50-50 chance this baby may survive, but this doctor is so committed. He just stays overnight. He doesn't sleep. He's so focused on willing this little baby to live. And the baby does live. That's the first happy story. The second story takes place 30 years later. And there's a man driving an SUV down the highway in California. And suddenly, a semi-tractor truck comes out of nowhere, slams into him. His car, his SUV is pinned against the wall, and it catches fire. He can't get out. But so luckily, there are paramedics coming back from a call nearby, and they just happen to be

there at the right time. And they extinguish the fire. They get the jaws of life, get him out, and the man lives. But the thing is, it's not two separate stories. It's the same one because the man in the SUV is the doctor, Michael Shannon, who had saved the premature baby's life. And the EMT who saves him is Chris Trocky, the premature baby whose life he had saved 30 years before. And that is just a really quick snapshot of the magic that exists, the interconnectedness of all our lives.

Because if that's true for them, it's true for all of us. That one just happens to be one we can look at and see really clearly in hindsight how profound those connections are. But I think for all of us, you know, the other side has told me that we all save other people's lives. And we're none the wiser until we cross one day do our life review. And then we're like, oh my gosh, I did that. So our own view of our own lives and what we deem as success or failures of what we're really doing here is so myopic. It's so limited. We don't have the whole picture. That's, yeah. Yes. That's something worth pausing on and highlighting because we,

all get so caught up, especially in the society in which we live today. We get so caught up in the moment, I know I do. I'm so guilty of it of getting small when I should be, you know, higher. Like, I want to be the cloud. I don't want to be the storm. I want to be the cloud above the storm. That's a great analogy. And it's so important to remember, like, everything does seem to work out. You know what I mean? Like, for the most part, everything does seem to work out. And when you subscribe to this theory that she's talking about, like I love when you talk about life reviews in the afterlife and that there is an afterlife and that when people send you messages, like I remember asking you this question being confused.

And I think from reading this book, I figured it out, if someone's in the afterlife, like if my mom is sending me oranges, which is my symbol with my mom, if my mom's sending me oranges, then is she also has she been reincarnated? Because how did she have time to be in the afterlife if she's in the, if she's being, you know, and then I'm like, well, wait, if we're believing in all of that, then people can be everywhere at the same time. That doesn't mean that she's not here. That just means she's still with me. You got it. Right. That's so true. And our concept here of time is so linear. It's like this canvas that moves forward. On the other side, time doesn't really exist. And our soul energy is always

really there. We're never separate from each other, from those we love. This is more like a virtual reality we beam into. And these brains are really just like dunce caps, you know? They're not the source of our consciousness. They're like limiting our consciousness so that we can't remember all the truths that we know. Yeah. And there's a section of the book where you talk about the telepathy tapes, that podcast. That's about autistic children and how they have gifts. They have, you know, some of their perceptions and their abilities are like if you can't speak, that would heighten the rest of your other senses, you know, theoretically, right? And I think that's kind of like in the chapter you talk about showing a number behind, like, is it a window or? Yeah. What the research

started with was Dr. Diane Hennessy Powell started researching autistic savants who seemingly could calculate like these incredible digits just like that. But in time as she researched, she realized what was going on was that these children who were savants were actually telepathically seeing the number that their caregiver had on a calculator. They weren't calculating that they were reading the person's mind. And then that research led into understanding that these children, and many of who are nonverbal. So they're spellers, which means they use an alphabet board to communicate or sometimes they type or some can be verbal.

They share that not only are they telepathic with the people they love, like their mom, their dad, their teachers, but with each other and their mediums. So they're in communication with people who are no longer in a physical body and getting all sorts of messages at all times. Right. So in this study, and if you've ever listened to that podcast, telepathy tapes, have you? Yeah. I listened to a few episodes of that because it's like in this study, you could write down a number on a board.

You could not show the number. And just because the person is thinking that number and wrote it down, the kid knows exactly what it is before it's even just because the thought is out there. So it's like, you know, I mean, what is that called? Are they like telepathic? Yeah. Right. Or telephic. Yeah.

And are they tapping into like universal intelligence? So it's interesting. Like it seems to be that they know all. sorts of things that they were never taught about history. They know great works of literature that they've never read. And what they've shared is that when they go to this place, they call the hill, which is very similar to where I go when I read. And actually, I did some work with one of the girls and she took me to the hill, which was fascinating. But there are people who lived here on earth who were great thought leaders or writers or change agents who are still so invested in our

world in helping us. And it's those people and it's all that knowledge that exists and they can download in a millisecond. So it's fascinating. They know so much and they've experienced so much. They actually, if they're, let's say the girl that I've worked with, her name's Amelia, her mom listened to signs on her earbuds like Amelia couldn't have heard it all. And Amelia knew everything from the book and said she wanted to meet the cool book lady because she had heard all and felt my energy through the book. It's fascinating how these things unfold and what it really shows is how interconnected we all are all the time. Right. And we just can't see it. Yeah, but it makes you want to hone those skills, you know, to really, to like, to really tune into other people,

to know that even if you're having a thought, like if you're having a negative thought, that affects the energy in the room. Like the molecules. You nailed it. You nailed it. What I have come to understand from all the research I've done, and I do really deep dives on like quantum research and what this means. And thoughts are energy, they're light energy. And every single thought we have, either puts more light into the world or more darkness. It is an energy exchange. That's it. So what do we do when we have like negative thoughts too? Because that's a very real state of being human. We catch ourselves. We recognize that we're having them and we talk over them gently with positive thoughts. You know, if you wake up and you're like, today's going to be the

worst day, blah, blah, blah. You have to catch yourself and go like, actually no, today and being alive here on Earth School is a gift. And I'm so excited to see what my team of light unfolds for me. the people, the experiences, the situations that are going to be brought into my path. And I hope that I just keep my mind and heart open to recognize the spiritual gift in it. Yeah. That's all you do. And a fun game also is when you have a negative thought is to like flip it upside down. Like, oh, God, I can't believe I have to go deal with this.

And you're like, oh, how fun is this going to be? You know? I love that. Like you kind of play a game until you, and then you're kind of amusing yourself. You're like, okay, let's see how good I can make this scene. I wouldn't love that. Yeah, what a fun adventure to go, you know, deal with my contractor again. How fun. Like, what a fun challenge. This is exciting. Maybe this will be our last meeting, you know. That that kind of attitude really does change the vibration. And when you talk about, so Laura talks all the way, I mean, she uses the term teams of light. Like, we all have a team of light. Does everyone have a different, everyone obviously has a different team of light. Does anyone, like any of these light workers work for multiple teams? I mean, I work on multiple teams. It's so interesting. Sometimes I there are teams of light that have been brought here on earth and that our guides kind of work

together and know each other because I've seen like collective energy is so much more powerful than individual. So when we connect with others or we come together in a cause or have an idea of like how we want to help others and then we get other people on board, it's this like expansive, expansive light. So everybody's team of light is three parts, right? The thing we all share is the God energy part. I see God as this force of just love and connection that's inherent in our beings and guiding us every single day. And the real lesson there is love. Like always default to love, right? And our true currency is forgiveness, gratitude, empathy, kindness. So if you're not exercising those things, you're not choosing your love path, right? And you're distancing yourself a little

bit. But the second and third part of everybody's teams alike are different. The second part is what I call spirit guides, what throughout time and history religions have called guardian angels. It's a concept of these advanced angelic beings who guide us. And we each have spirit guides. They're very unique to us. They're nobody we knew this lifetime. They're advanced angelic beings that our souls contracted with before we came here to Earth school to kind of guide us and lead us and, you know, get us on our highest path. And I think some people have this really acute awareness, like they've done meditations or they've had dreams or visions and they're like, I know what my guide looks like and this is his name. And And other people are like, yeah, I don't even know.

I just kind of feel, you know, sometimes thoughts are put in my mind or I have got feelings. Like, that's how your team of light's going to communicate. And then the third part is anybody who loved who's crossed, including pets. And also including ancestors that are in your lineage who you might not have met. They are all loving you, guiding you, invested in your journey. It's really beautiful. So what about the people that are assholes? Seriously.

Like what about terrible people? Yeah. All right. Well, so let's put them in two different categories. categories because there's like the A-hole people who are just like not getting their lessons, making everybody's life annoying, right, being really stubborn and stuck. And then there are people who come and do like really dark, evil things. And like usually the people who come and do really dark, terrible things, there's one thing they have in common. And it's a misunderstanding

of what true power is, right? Because what the other side has taught me is what true power is. It's not about having power over somebody, manipulating people, making people bow down to you, being like, look what I have and you don't. I control this. It's not about control. It's not about any of that. True power is finding the gifts you came here with, right? We each have this light and gift within us, honoring them, sharing them with others to help elevate others to find their gifts and share them. So there's this ripple effect, this domino effect of light in the world. And true power is learning that all ships rise with the tide. It's learning that what we're really here for is to be empathetic to one another, is what happens. to one person happens to you because when you leave here and you're not in a physical body,

you download everybody else's experiences instantly. We all do become one in this kind of greater consciousness so you can understand and feel something that someone else went through their entire life. So I think that we need to really understand the difference between those two forms of power. So now let's back it up. What happens to the relatives who's just made your life really hard, you know, was very judgmental and now is on the other side? That's a person does a life review and I can tell you from all these readings I've done, they will show up immediately and ask for you to forgive them because that's part of their soul path. There is always accountability on the other side. When we do our life review, it doesn't take place in real

time, right? It's instant. And in that instant, we relive everything, not just from our own perspective, but from the people we were interacting with and how we made them feel. We also understand like how we affected others, what our energy on earth here did, the light it left, how it's still, you know, playing out in the world, is beautiful. And so there's accountability that happens. So I'm not saying that when you cross the other side, you have to spend time with the relatives who was awful, right? But I am saying that they're going to greet you and say that they're sorry. And then maybe they'll be in a different, you know, apartment level. You know, you might be in the penthouse and they might be on the third floor. But like someone like Donald

Trump, who comes in and just creates having. pain, hurt. Obviously that person is missing any sort of in touch, you know, like spiritual side. There's no spirituality there. But what, why are we have to deal with it? Okay. So I want to, let's talk about like what you're really saying is like, what is the role of villains and people, right? What is the role of evil?

What is that? So let's talk about Disney movies. Let's roll it back a little. Okay. Did you see Disney movies when you were little, right? Unfortunately, I thought. I've seen a couple. I talk about like, what is it, like 101 Dalmatians.

My kids love that movie. And there is such a villain in that movie. And it's Cruella DeVille. And she literally wants to skin these little puppies. I mean, you don't get darker than that in life, right? So when children are watching it, when I'm watching it, when my kids were young, like, what am I learning from the role of the villain? What do we derive from that? Well, it's a call to action in our hearts and in our minds and in our energy.

It's about standing up for the voiceless. It's about finding that you do care and that you're willing to stand up for somebody else, not just focused on yourself. It's about being able to identify when somebody has a false sense of power or is disengaged from humanity. Right? And I think that observation teaches us about who we are on the inside. It basically makes us accountable to ourselves. Because if we were all good, then there would be no controversy. And we wouldn't know what good it was.

And we're also on different levels here, right? So some of us are teachers for each other. Some of us are healers for each other. And some of us are like raising their hands on the other side being like, I'll play the villain so that you can learn against me. You know, like Fred Rogers said his mother used to always, like Mr. Rogers, he said his mother used to always say when great tragedies happen, don't focus on the tragedy or what was done.

Focus on the helpers that run in. And that's where the meaning of life is. That's why we're here. To love one another, to make life better for each other, to support. one another. And I think that we maybe have to give a little grace at times because people get very lost in the cacophony of what this materialistic world is telling them is success or power or those things. And it might take a little longer to unpack or unprocess. My download right now for all of us, because times are very dark right now and it can be really upsetting and discouraging

and it can make people feel so powerless to help others, right? What my guides told me, it's so important right now for us to all tend our own gardens. and do small acts of kindness however we can. And they reminded me of the butterfly effect, which is like we can do one little thing in the world and it can have the most profound ripple effects. And if you look at history in reverse, you can actually trace back like major historical events

to like one small decision, somebody made somewhere. And so I think that if we're all just focused on our own light, like we don't focus on the darkness. Like don't stare into the abyss. We focus on whatever gifts we came here with. we focus on our light and we focus with sharing it with others, we can bring about powerful change and transformation in ways we can't imagine. Like my guide's told me, like, smiling at somebody in a coffee shop on a Monday in New York

could save somebody's life in Africa on a Friday. And that's mind-boggling to me. I love that. That's the chain of light and goodness. Yes. And to always choose that. And on that note, I just want to read a little quote. This is from L.R. Nost.

This is a quote in Laura's book. Do not be dismayed by the brokenness of the world. All things break. and all things can be mended. Not with time, as they say, but with intention. So go. Love intentionally, extravagantly, unconditionally. The broken world waits in darkness for the light that is you, which says everything

you just said. I mean, encapsulates it all, which is so true. Because it's a great reminder not to just die in despair and not to ever give up. Yes. Like, we have a responsibility to shine brighter when the things get darker. Yeah. You are the light. That's the message. We all have that light within. And with that, we're going to take a break and turn the lights back on. And we will be right back

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and buy a book. It's called Guided the Secret Path to an illuminated life, and it's filled with so many hopeful stories about if you're not. If you are heartbroken and you are feeling lost and you've lost someone meaningful, it is filled with so much comfort about how to get in touch with your loved ones. And I know from experience it's worked for me a million times. I did it most recently in Majorca. I asked my mom to show me an orange out of place. And she, and I went to, did I tell this story?

I asked my mom to show me an orange out of place. And I had lost touch with my mom through this whole house fiasco and the stress of it all, plus my menopause. I found out I had no estrogen. A lot of things were happening. But I'm feeling much better. And I said, I'm so sorry for not being in touch. I said to, like, my mom.

I'm like, can you just show me an orange out of place if it's, you know, everything's okay and we're good and everything is starting. The tides are changing for all of this negativity. And I went to this artist house to look at her sculptures. And she had a huge painting of fruit. And she was a sculptor, not a painter. And she goes, oh, this is the only, she's like, this is the only time I've ever painted fruit. And guess what?

All the fruit was there, and then there was a huge orange out. But the orange had a bite out of it. That's amazing. And I was like, oh, that's my mom being like, yeah. That's my mom calling me at 4 o'clock in the morning going, hi, just checking in. So, yeah, so that was cute. I love that. That's so powerful.

Yeah, yeah. So you gave me that gift about that orange. So whenever I need an orange, I get one. Yeah. But it can't be at a grocery store. So you have to choose, like everyone. And this book really takes you through it. Like, for every person, it's different.

It's whatever means something to you and the person you've lost. But there is such a comfort in knowing that the energy isn't gone. And it's not just make believe. It's scientific. It's scientific that energy doesn't die. It transfers. So it turns into something else. And they want to tell us they're okay.

They want to get in touch with us. So you have to be open to the idea of it. Even my two sisters who were a little bit, thought I was a little shady in the beginning with all of this. Now I've come around and they'll be like, oh, mom today. You know, she's, there was a hummingbird outside my window. I love that. Yeah.

Well, and it is so funny, too, because there are a lot of stories in the book where you're talking about someone who asked for a sign and they get the sign, they're like, can't be that. And then they get the same sign again. And they're like, well, maybe it's. Let's just check again. And then there's a third time. It's like, I don't believe you.

Now I need a dolphin jumping over a shark. You're like, what? How greedy can you? Yes, exactly. Right. Right. Yeah. We're ready for callers.

Yeah, I think so. Right. Her first caller today is Kayla. and she says, Dear Chelsea, I love listening to the podcast. I appreciate the guaranteed laughter and blunt honesty every week. A couple of years ago, I listened to the Finding Your Highest Path episode with Laurelind Jackson, which led me to read her book signs. Ever since I was young, I've always felt a spiritual connection with the world. I'm now 31 years old. I lost my husband when I was 24, and I lost my daughter right after I turned 28. Both of their deaths were very tragic. After my husband passed, I got signs from him all the time, but I never really knew if they were actual signs or just coincidences that I chocked up to being signs.

Once I read Laura's book, I knew I wasn't crazy anymore and the signs were real, but I still find myself being skeptical, especially because I don't feel like I get signs from my daughter like I do my husband. There were so many things left unsaid between my husband and I since he died unexpectedly. I feel the signs from him keep us connected, but it isn't always clear what he's trying to convey. My daughter was diagnosed with a neuromuscular disease three months after my husband passed. She lost her ability to talk right after he died. So there's a lot of things that went unsaid with her as well. So many things I wish I could talk to her about. I doubt myself as a mother fulfilling her needs.

I worry she wasn't happy with the choices I made for her when she didn't have a voice. I find myself thinking maybe that's why I don't get signs from her. My heart is broken without her and without the signs from her. My husband and I had two kids together. So it's been me and my son trying to navigate this crazy life together. Life is beginning to have color again. I'm now engaged and have a healthy seven-week-old baby. But there are questions still left and answered.

I still feel like a reading from someone like Laurelind Jackson could change my life and possibly make the connection between me and my daughter stronger. Or if not from her, how do I go about finding a psychic medium that's legit? Kayla. And we've got Kayla here with us. Hi, Kayla. Hello. Hi.

You have Laura Lynn Jackson right here. Here. I know this is amazing. Oh, look at you. You're so beautiful and vibrant and congratulations on your new baby. Thank you so much. Okay. Can I jump this? Yes. All right. So first of all, it's so lovely to meet you. I'm so sorry for your physical losses of your husband and your daughter. I have so many things that I was getting as downloads as you were reading it. The first thing I want to say is you're carrying a lot of guilt that doesn't belong to you at all. So I want to tell you what I was feeling as I was listening to your words was that you were the most incredible loving presence for your daughter while she was here on earth. I also want to tell you she chose you to be her mom and she knew and you knew on a soul level before you agreed to this that she would not be here long.

but her lesson was one of love. And this is really important for you to hear because for you to be still here on earth thinking that in any way you may have failed her is completely untrue. You taught her the exact lesson her soul needed to feel that unconditional love. And every choice you made for her care

was made in love. And that is always the highest path and the right choice. So I think what's going on is, you know, this frontal lobe of our brain is where 98% of our brain We have activity takes place during our daily activities, and it's very chattery and logical-based, and it's also very mean. And it'll tell us lies about the narrative of our lives and what we've done. And I think yours has been telling you, it's been really nitpicking and saying, you didn't do this right, you didn't do that right, rather than focusing on what a force of love you were and are for her. because relationships do not end with bodily death.

They actually get stronger. And I also have this sense, and this might sound a little odd, but I almost feel like your husband and she had this sort of soul contract that he would arrive there before she did and then greet her. And I think you've had that moment where that occurred to you, like almost in a spiritual sense, and then maybe you just dismissed it or pushed it away. But I think me saying that to you, you already know that. The other thing I want to say is, you know, I am never, and a psychic medium is never,

your loved one's first choice. They'll come to us and through us because of their love for you. But it's never what they want. They want to talk directly to you every single day and get through to you every day, not like at a scheduled appointment that's taken this long and for this short amount of time. You know, think of it like if you were to go to lunch with your husband and your daughter, right, and you're sitting at a table and then I show up and I'm like, hey, guys, I'm here and you can't talk to each other. You'd have to talk to me and I'll pass along the messages. That's what it's like. So for you to just open, your mind and heart and recognize that you're already in direct communication with them, I think is everything. The tools are within you. You don't need anybody else to do this.

That's where I think it's really important to get over two major obstacles when it comes to feeling our loved ones on the other side with us and getting their guidance and their inspiration and getting the downloads from them and seeing their presence in our lives. And the two obstacles are fear and doubt. So fear is the idea of like, first of all, I'm afraid I might not be able to do this or I'm afraid these abilities might not exist because the materialistic paradigm we're raised in if you can't see it, touch it, taste, it, smell. It's not real, right? But the truth is there's unseen energy all around us and we are energy and energy and matter, even Einstein said, are interchangeable. So the truth is unseen energy and energy in general is the only truth

of our existence. We're not really solid beings. The chairs we're sitting on are not solid. We're just fast vibrating atoms made of light that appear solid. So when you understand that, I think it's easier to conquer the fear of like this can't exist because it does. And then the doubt is the next thing, right? The doubt is when I get a sign or when I think I feel my loved one around me or when I've had a dream visitation or when I have a knowing or when a thought comes to me and I feel like it's from my daughter or my husband on the other side, how do I trust in it? Because you are locked in this frontal lobe, which is based in logic.

So it's always going to try and reject the spiritual experience and tell you it's a coincidence. It's not. It's a sign. If you have that moment where you're like, I think this was a sign or I think this was a communication from the other side, it is. And you don't need validation from anybody for that. You know, my sense is that I feel your husband and daughter around you so much. And I even feel them like celebrating so beautifully this new path of life that you're on and that you are guided into this next experience that you're having in this most beautiful way. They want you heal. They're They want you whole. They want you engaged in life. They want you celebrating the force of love that you are in this world. You know, I think to you, and this is going to sound a little funny, but somebody's going to be giving you flowers soon, like flowers, and it's really from them. And it hasn't happened yet, so wait and see.

But when you get them, I think there might even be like more meaning in whatever the card says or whatever types of flowers these are, you're going to have to see. But you're going to understand how beloved and guided you are. They want you living the best version of your life. And what your husband on the other side is telling me is like you're teetering on like trusting that and diving into it. This is, I feel like this phone call and this letter is that final moment where it's almost like releasing the helium balloon of the guilt or the grief or everything you've been holding on to into the air and knowing that that's what they want for you in the most beautiful path ahead. Okay. That is very, very refreshing to hear.

Definitely the guilt is part of, you know, what's been a major thing of what I'm feeling. So it's really refreshing to hear you say that the fact that, you know, you hit it on the head with him being there before she was. As soon as she got diagnosed, I felt like that was why, that was kind of the reason why he passed away. He was meant to be there for her, which made me feel better. when her time came. Like, her dad was there for her. I'm sorry to interrupt. They're just telling me more while you're talking.

I want to bring up two things around your daughter, too, but you still having her stuffed animal. And also, have you been reading a book to your son? Did somebody just give you a book for your baby? Like, I'm seeing a children's book. This is why I'm asking. I did have someone message me and ask if I had a book this morning. They messaged me and said, do you have this book?

Okay. Do you have that book? Not yet. Okay. When you get that book that they're going to send you, I want you to go to the last two pages of it. And I don't know what book this is or what it's going to say about your daughter's telling me there's a message from her to you in it. And I want you to read it. And it will all make sense.

Okay. Awesome. And I want to just say something from listening to this. Like, look at how many people got to get your love in this lifetime. Yeah. If you look at that, you got all of this love that you got to share around. and it was all predestined, and your daughter knew that she was going to be there for a short time, and she chose you, and now you have another son, and in addition to your first son,

and you have a new husband, like this is, you have a lot of love to give, and that's what you're here to do. Yeah, that's definitely a better way of looking at it. That makes me feel a lot better. Thank you for that. I need to say one more thing, because as you're saying this, too, they love what you just said, first of all, but they also said, please know that moving forward is not leaving us behind. We come with you. We're part of it all. Thank you so much.

That's it really, like I said in my message, I knew that being able to just have that opening, that communication puts me at ease. Yeah, and you have that within yourself. And I also feel like sometimes you have this, you feel them around. You just feel them around, especially at night. when you're going to sleep, they are right there with you. It's when you can kind of tune in the most of them. I mean, they're with you all the time. But that's when you feel them a lot, and they love that. Thank you. And way to keep it together during this phone call, Kayla, because I'm a mess over here. And you're really... You're a force of light and goodness and love. We're sending you lots and lots of

love. Thank you for calling in Kayla. Okay. Yes. Thank you so much. You guys have a great day. You too. Laura, how do you not just like cry all of the time? You know, it's such an excellent question, right? Especially when it comes to children on the other side. So for me, the experience, it's so hard to describe, but it's all love. I feel no sense of loss because I know the person's not physically here and I know there's been a physical loss, but they're so alive and vibrant. It's never a question for me. It's the most beautiful truth. And I can feel like their personality, their energy, their love that comes through me to the person here. So I can't be sad when I'm feeling so much love. That's a nice.

way to look at it and think about it. Yeah. Yeah, because we always think of loss, loss, loss, grief. And like, instead of grief is love. Yeah. And, you know, just to reiterate what you've said, like, you don't need a medium. You can have these conversations. But I will also say my sister, she, several years ago, actually, after the call we had with you, she went and found someone else from the Forever Family Foundation where everybody's been vetted and they have all, you know, really wonderful people working with them. And she actually had a reading with one of them. And it was one of those things we were talking about before Chelsea got here of like,

it wasn't necessarily about her, but it was about all these people around her. And she had messages for like so many people in her life. It was very interesting. That's beautiful. Yeah. There are a few things for her, but yeah. Yeah. I don't want to ever discredit a mediumship session.

I know how sacred is for me when I do it. It's just so like beautiful to be part of. I just want everybody to know they don't need it. Right. Right. You don't need it. You can, you know, talk to somebody else. I'm like the anti-business model.

Like, nobody needs me. You got this. Well, our next caller is Jessica, and she says, dear Chelsea. My mom passed away last year from stage four breast cancer. We put each other through a lot of trauma over my lifetime. My daughter and I lived with her for five-ish years, most of my kids' life, and we weren't in a good place when she died. Additionally, I had a serious fight with my younger sister after our mom passed away.

She and I haven't spoken since December, I think, because of things she's she said to me, so I'm having some tough feelings around that. My daughter was initially acting out after my mom died, and while that's lessened, she misses grandma a lot, obviously. I have a lot of complicated feelings about my mom, and it's hard to know how to help her. I don't have a desire to talk about my mom, and when she has big emotions about grandma, I freeze up and don't know how to react. I'm usually really good about helping her through big emotions, but anything to do with my mom is incredibly difficult for me. All in all, I can't manage the conflicting feelings of relief and guilt I've been dealing with the last year. I know Chelsea has a lot of advice on grief and caring for

family. I feel like I should have been more gracious with my mom and sister, and if I stop to think about it, it tears me up. I have been holding off on submitting because it means I have to talk about it, but I feel like the universe is telling me to get over it and try. Thanks so much, Jessica. Hi, Jessica. Hi. Hi. How are you? We're good, and you're stuck. You have a blockage. Yeah. Laura's going to help you. Is it my internet or my actual blockage? No.

You have a blockage with your... My soul blockage or my internet. You have a sole blockage. We're going to unblock you. Well, first, I want to compliment you because by writing in, that means you're ready to heal. And what I know about our time here on Earth is that the highest path we can find is forgiveness, empathy, and healing. And I truly feel that your mom kind of nudged you to write in and do this.

because she's ready to apologize and to thank you. I think when she was here, this is how I'm getting it, she wasn't good at that stuff. She was good at demanding stuff and criticizing and, you know, expecting. It's almost like a sense of entitlement. And I will tell you when she crossed and did her life review, it was a lot to take in for her. But I will tell you, I don't have the sense that when she was here, and this is how she's giving it to me, it's like she didn't know better. She didn't do it maliciously or on purpose, she was just un-evolved. And that the fact that she wasn't evolved led her to be cruel at times. She wants you to know she sees you fully now, and she celebrates you.

She's asking for your forgiveness. And she says you don't have to give it right now in front of everybody, but she's asking for it. She understands that she should have been the mother, and she should have shown up for you emotionally and that instead she put you in that role. She also wants me to tell you, she's learning from you so much about what it means to be a mother by watching how you mother. She's kind of funny when it comes to the thing with your sister because she's like, ah, you're both wrong. It's almost like, you know, like, to not get too caught up in that, it'll work itself out. There's a lot of valid feelings you have. And I think that when we're here on earth, the way you know, you and your

sister are right now, you can kind of get stuck a little bit and it can be hard to see the bigger picture, to see what's really going on. And I have a sense like in time, that's going to work itself out. But she is asking you to, this is the way I would like to phrase it, default to love. And she says that's actually how you are in life. You always default to love. You try and act tough on the outside, but you always default to love and you do kind things. Do animals tend to really like you, by the way? Like, do animals come up to you? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, we live with my dad now and one of their dogs like hates me and I cannot expect it. Yeah. You know, it's so funny because I think, too, I want to give you a little, you know, puzzle piece here. Animal C-Spirit. Okay. And I think your mom's

literally been like walking by you this whole time. And I don't think it's you that the dog's reacting to. I I think the dog's like, wait a minute, what is going on here? So that could be part of it. But I feel like your light is very bright and other people see it even though you try to hide it. And I think you've had to guard it, especially in the past with your relationship with your mom, because she didn't honor it in the right ways. And what was making you vulnerable and beautiful almost became a perceived weakness because she wouldn't honor it. And she would kind of take advantage at times, not necessarily on purpose, but just because of how she was. She is thanking you for all you did. for her and the ways you cared for her, especially at the end, in spite of how she acted.

And do we lose her? We might have lost. I don't want to say anything to interrupt the flow of energy, but I also feel something. Ooh, you're going. I can feel what you're talking about. Like, I can feel her mom's energy. Yes. Okay.

You need to talk about this. Well, I mean, I've just, everything you're saying, oh, hey, we had you, Jessica. I'm so sorry. It's okay. No, I want to move to a different place. I have not had an issue with my video here. So that's what your mother does. That's your mother.

But Chelsea, Chelsea, share what you just said. I just, when you were coming in and out, Jessica, like I, what Laura is saying, like, I could, right before she said everything, like, I could just feel your mother swoop in, like her energy swooping in saying, like, I'm here to talk to you now. Like, I have my opportunity and I'm going to say everything that I want to say to you. Like I could feel her energy. And it was strong. Yeah, she is strong.

And I want to tell you what I was getting to you that she said, to validate all this for you so that you know this really is her and she's apologizing, right? She's going to send you two signs and these sound a little like unrelated, but this time getting it. She showed me a blue butterfly and a chicken. I don't know how those are going to come to you, but when you see them, and I don't think they have any meaning to you right now. Let me be clear. They just sound wacky. But when you get them, you're going to know this is her. I feel like she's got a little sense of humor about it, too.

So you'll have to see how that plays out in your life. But please know to open your mind and heart to be looking for those signs. And she said in the brief time that we got disconnected, you've already forgiven her. Okay. Have you? No. I mean, maybe. Not up here.

Not in your head. I'm not talking about your head. I'm talking about your heart and soul, okay? Your head's going to take a while to catch up with it. Like the monkey mind that chatter is, like the logical part. You're going to take a while to unpack that. But what I know just happened because she told me is that healing just took place. So in your heart, in that soul energy, you've forgiven her, even though logically, now you're

going to work it out for a while. Laura, can you talk a little bit about how sometimes our relationships with people have passed can improve even though they're not here with us? Oh, absolutely. You know, because I think when people who were stuck in beliefs or limited or unavolved while they were here, cross and do a life review and take accountability, it changes our relationships dramatically. We now can have these stronger and beautiful relationships with people we love, and they can show up for us in ways that they couldn't when they were here. And they do,

and they will. Look at that. See, animal loves you. Oh, dog just came up to her. Look at that. That's Reaver. Yeah. So sweet. But, oh, that's sweet, though. That's sweet, though. That was. was nice timing. Well, you couldn't see the men pin has been at my hand licking me this whole time since I've been out here. Is that the one that was being cranky before? So she came out and looked at me and ran back inside. Well, I would use this as your door opening to heal the relationship with your mother. This is the first step in your healing process. And I think the stuff with your sister will work out. I see like a two-month period and then like the

It's a real beautiful doorway for forgiveness. And I don't feel like it's necessarily going to get worked out completely in terms of my version, your version, but just like, okay, it's almost like we have to agree to disagree. But what we know is there is this underground river of love. And I love you, even if we don't see eye to eye. I have actually texted her a couple of times. And she did my birthday was about a week ago.

And she did text me on my birthday, which was big because it's been almost a year. That's beautiful. Yeah. And then I was invited by her while I was waiting for you guys to a memorial thing for my mom on Facebook. Oh, that's so beautiful. I feel like writing in and doing this letter opened the door for all of that, right? It was your energy that opened that. Well, yeah, and I think because my call originally was supposed to be two days before after my mom, the first anniversary of my mom passing and it didn't work out. And I think maybe. like you were saying I just wasn't ready for that at that time actually and everything you set up top was just like everything I wish that is that yeah she is saying it now she just didn't have the ability to say it then because she didn't see it then right right no yeah but she loves you so much oh I feel that's I guess of course part of what makes it so hard And I had kind of forgiven her a lot of the stuff from when I was a kid before she passed, because especially after being a mom, I understand, like, you are just doing your best,

and she didn't have the tools that I have now. So she didn't really know any differently, but then just the last few years before she passed were so bad. So it is really, I'm forgetting to know that I will get to a place where I can really forget for suit. Yeah, you will. You're going to get there. You're on your way. We're all witnessing it.

Yeah. Thank you for sharing this. She also says right about it. That's going to help. And then she also said she's going to give you a win somehow. Like, I feel like a scratch off lottery ticket you're going to win. And it might be funny because it might only be $10. But she's like, that's the best I can do right now.

But just be ready for that too. I feel like she's going to try and pay you back energetically in the most beautiful ways. So just be open to some magical, beautiful things happening to you and for you. Oh, I could sure use a win. Yeah. You're going to get a win. The tide is changing. You're going to get a win.

And it makes sense that she would want me to write about it. She journaled every single day for as long as I can remember. Oh, I love it. She wants me to journal. Get ready. You know, I think sometimes when we write, too, we open the doorway to a conversation with the other side. And you might find as you're right, you might feel her presence more strongly and you might, like, hear thoughts come to you that are really from her, like, asking for more forgiveness or telling you how much she loves you. I think that she wants to be present for that healing journey and help you heal. Boy. Thank you.

Well, thank you for calling in. We are so happy that you did. I am too. This is more cathartics than I could have imagined. I'm so glad. Sending you so much love. Follow up with us when you see your blue butterfly and your chicken, okay? Yes, yes, seriously. Follow up with us. And when you win the $10 on the scratch shop thing, maybe it'll be more.

Watch it will be $60,000. You're like, what? Oh, come on, Mom. Come on, Mom. Right? Awesome. Thanks, Jessica. Love it.

Thanks, Jessica. Thank you. Thank you all. Hi. Oh, that was so moving. So moving. Yeah. Do we have energy in time for one more? What do you?

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And immediately, the math. came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. So keep this secret for so many years. He's like a seasoned pro. This is a story about the end of a marriage.

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Hi, Cookie. Hi. Now the Winter Olympic Games are underway, and we are in Italy to give you experiences from our hearts to your ears. Listen to two guys, five rings on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Act with Laura Lynn Jackson, and we're going to do one more caller because we can't let you leave without spreading more of this. Exactly. It's so exciting. Yes.

And actually, this collar is two colors. So we should have Sarah and Pat on the phone. Oh, together. Yeah. So this is a little bit of couples counseling with. Chelsea. But so Sarah and Pat say, dear Chelsea, my husband Pat is the youngest of four brothers, or so we thought, up until about five years ago. After the birth of our second son, my husband's whole family came to visit. During that trip, my mother-in-law revealed that she had become

pregnant at the age of 15. She was sent to a Catholic home for unwed mothers, and her son was adopted after birth. She had apparently never planned on sharing this news until my husband bought an ancestry DNA test. Long story short, it was not an open adoption, and she has not had much contact with her first child. My husband and his brothers all took this news in their own way, some grieved, some were angry, but my husband, Pat, has been determined to find his now oldest brother, but he's not had much luck. The person we believe could be his brother does not seem to want to be contacted and has no interest in meeting Pat, his brothers, or his mom. Pat can't seem to let this go and feels like he needs closure, which I do understand. What? What?

would you do? Family is very important to us both and we know it is to you as well, Chelsea. Would you let this go and hope that one day his brother will change his mind or do we continue our search and try to get creative and exhaust all resources? I value your opinion and I'm hoping we can find peace whatever the outcome may be. Sarah and Pat. I've got their hair with us. Hi, guys. Hello. Hi. Hi. Hi. This is our special guest, Laurelind Jackson. Hi. Hi. Hi. It's nice to meet you all. Thank you for having us. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay, Laura, what do you think right off the bat about this? So I just want to say I think always being guided by love is the highest path to take.

And I think that is your impetus. That is your drive. That is what is making you want so badly to meet this brother. Is this love you already have in your heart having not even met him yet? That said, I do think that there are free will choices here on earth really are very powerful. And I think possibly the highest path to take would be to set the intention with the universe, with the powers that be that your heart would love to connect with your brother and then surrender it. Because there's a magic that goes on behind the scenes in unseen energy streams in ways that we can't fathom, but we need to trust in. I would say that it might be a process for the brother who maybe has orchestrated his life a certain way and guarded his heart a certain way, that he may know the door is there and not be ready to open it today. But if you just give some time and space out of the blue, a year and two months from now, you might get a phone call, you might get an email, you might get a letter. and what a beautiful moment that would be.

So I think set your intention, leave that door open and know you're coming from the most pure place, but also understand that his free will might need a little time to make a decision to be that vulnerable because that's really what I see this is about for him is vulnerability. And I think what your knowledge, your heart is telling you is like, yes, there's a risk here, but it's going to be so rewarding and so loving when we meet. And his energy is saying, I don't know that I'm ready to take that risk. I'm still guarded or I'm not sure I want to meet this family that I'm not part of or haven't been part of yet. But I think it's so beautiful the intention you're setting.

And I think it's so beautiful how as a couple you are supporting each other in that. And there's so much love between you and so much kindness and genuine, like, rooting for the other person to be healed and be whole and, you know, experience love in all the dimensions. Yeah. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. That's my sweet. What do you think? I agree with everything that Laurel Lynn Jackson said. Ditto, ditto, because I think it's so important to put out that vibe, to put out the intention, to always lead with love every time you think about him to let him know, like, just think about communicating with someone telepathically. Like, choose to believe that that's true. And like, I love you and I'm ready whatever you are. And as long as that message is out there, I do think that you will hear from him

at some point during your life. And you can also focus on the excitement and the happiness that you'll feel when and if he does reach out. Like focusing on those emotions, I think, can help bring them to fruition. This is, you know, our timelines are so different. Like my dad was in sort of a similar situation as your brother. He found out that the person he thought was his dad was not his biological father, and he found this out when he was in his 20s. My parents were already married, and the moment my dad had the realization, he didn't even tell my mom for a full year, because he just needed to digest it and sort of sit with it. And then it wasn't for several more years until he met his whole family. And then he walks into this family reunion, and he's like, oh, I thought it was just like a special individual snowflake, but like,

I look exactly like that person, but with a different hair color, and I hold my coffee mug the same as this person. And so, you know, he might just be on a little bit of a different timeline than you, but if you focus on those like feelings of excitement and happiness, I think that's what he'll be feeling from you. Yeah, I love that. And that's definitely where we're coming from. So we can keep putting it out there. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're welcome. Thank you guys. Thank you guys. Thank you guys for calling in today. Yeah. This is really great. Of course. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it. Yeah. Nice to you all. We'll keep you posted. Okay. Yes. Please do. All right. Thanks, guys. We love follow-ups.

love follow-up episodes. We love that. Wow, Laura, as usual, just over-delivered in every way. Your presence is so appreciated. I love having you around me. I love it when you're in my energy field. And I love to be able to watch people's reactions to hearing you tell them, you know, beautiful things about the things that they can't see that you are in tune with and attuned to. So thank you. The book is called Guided. You guys, please grab a copy. for anyone you know that needs to read this. It's guided the secret path to an illuminated life, and it's my friend Laura Lynn Jackson.

Thank you. Thank you so much for having me here. Yes, absolutely. I love being in the light of you both. Oh, such a great episode. I loved it. So fun. So good.

It's just like set my whole month in balance. Like I just feel like, oh. Like that's good. Like that sort of note. Okay, guys, the High and Mighty Tour is about to begin. I'm in D.C. February 13th, February 14th, Atlantic City, which I just added. 15th is Norfolk, Virginia.

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And then March 20th is Denver, Colorado. March 27th, Portland, Maine. March 28th, Providence, Rhode Island. March 29th, Springfield, Massachusetts. April 10th is Chicago. I'll be at the Chicago Theater. April 11th, Indianapolis, Indiana. April 12th, Louisville, Kentucky.

April 16th is Albuquerque, New Mexico. April 17th is Mesa, Arizona. April 23rd is Kansas City, Missouri. April 24th is St. Louis, Missouri. April 25th is Minneapolis. Minnesota. April 30th, Nashville, Tennessee. May 1st is Charlotte, North Carolina. May 2nd is Durham, North Carolina. May 6th, I'm doing Netflix as a joke festival. I will be in Los Angeles. That is a new announcement. And May 15th, Saratoga, California. May 16th, Monterey, California.

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