Dear Chelsea - Learning the Hard Way with Meghan Trainor

Episode Date: January 26, 2023

Meghan Trainor joins Chelsea in-studio to talk about how her life changed when she started medication for her panic disorder, how many kids she wants to have, and why redheads are the most well-endowed men.  Then: A fiance worries her best friend’s boyfriend will ruin her wedding with his drunken buffoonery.  A newly single twenty-something yearns to leave her life behind and move somewhere new.  And a gay man wrestles with self-doubt after years of intense bullying.  * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Nick Stumpf Produced by Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brandon Dickert * * * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I have to tell you something, actually. Don't answer that. I have had a lot of people come up to me on planes. I'm not joking. Referencing my disgust for bare feet and the hard-boiled egg thing. There was a woman, a flight attendant, who was like, I can't believe that you allow the woman that co-hosts the podcast with you to continue on after what she said about traveling with hard-boiled eggs in a Ziploc bag. She thought I should cut ties with you. Oh, no.

That's how serious of an offense somebody who flies through the air for a living takes your hard-boiled eggs. Just so you know, it's basically what you've been doing is assaulting people. I know. You know what? I actually, someone wrote in to our email

and she basically said, she was like, I was awoken from a nap by the smell of hard-boiled eggs on a plane and I thought of you I thought there can't be someone else who's bringing hard boiled eggs on a plane but sure enough there she was but she like said it in a way that was like but I love you I I can't even look at hard-boiled eggs the same like now if I see there's like a there's we were at some studio and there was all these snacks and I was trying to eat healthy.

And I was like, I don't want this, I don't want that. And there's a hard-boiled egg. And I was like, I'm like, if I weren't mad at you, I would be eating you. But I am, I'm still not over it. I know. Well, you know what? I have at least changed one part of my life.

I think I'm committed to using ricotta in my lasagna from now on. Yeah, I think that was also a major misfire, too. Thank God Mateo set you straight. Thank God he set someone straight, you know what I mean? Because he's not setting a lot of people straight. If I were a guy,

I would want to have sex with him. Me, too. You know what I mean? I mean, as a woman, I want to have sex. Yeah, kind of. I'm kind of attracted to him, actually. Yeah, no, he hot. What else? Well, I want to have sex. Yeah, kind of. I'm kind of attracted to him, actually. Yeah. No, he hot. What else? Hey, Moss.

Well, I have a follow-up, a very important follow-up from a recent caller. Okay, great. So we remember Sandra, who called in on our Call Our Daddy episode just last week. And she was going to Thailand with a boyfriend who had been like hiring escorts, but it was before they were together. So, you know, we talked to her about. Oh, yeah. It's fine, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Escorts. Right. I remember this. Yes. So Sandra says, hi, Chelsea. I just wanted to follow up after our call with some updates or I guess just the one. I'm continuing to work with my therapist on my trust issues and keep all of your voices in my head that I cannot look at his things if I want a real and healthy relationship. And I expressed to him how his past made me feel insecure, but I will work on that

and work on my trust. I went on the trip to Thailand and something felt off the entire time. He had started smoking weed again, even though he was sober. And the trip was hard because there was a major disconnect, a sinking feeling that he was not telling me something. It turns out he was indeed cheating on me, going to erotic massage parlors before I got there and even while I was there. Gross. Yeah. So gross. He did not tell me willingly.

Yes, it's because I found his Google map history going to these locations. I believe he would never have told me the truth if I had not found that history. So she snooped again and found out. Yeah, well, if you're snooping and you do find something, you can't argue with that because that's exactly what you were looking for. Yeah. So I'm sorry that that happened to you. And I guess, so Snoop, if you have a really strong, like what's our messaging here? I dated a guy who looked through my shit and I'm not up to anything.

And sure enough, whatever he found, he made into something that was nothing. And anyone who listens to this podcast knows that I'm not a person that would even, I would never do that. I don't have the energy for one relationship, nevermind fucking two. So that's where I've come from on that. Yeah, philosophy, a phone checking. I've also been the girl that does that, as we discussed during that episode. And I didn't like the way that felt either. But listen, I guess I don't know what to say about it, because women are just gonna fucking keep checking people's phones. And men who are paranoid,

or well, not just paranoid, but you know, they're gonna do it too, I guess paranoid, but, you know, they're going to do it, too, I guess. Yeah. And, you know, she goes on to say like she knows that she has some issues to work through with that. But I would also argue that you're attracting people that are like this. And that's the bigger issue. You knew deep within that this was the wrong person before you found that out. No, but I agree. You know, it's like she continues to say, like, she's got some stuff to work on. She's going to keep working on that. She's glad in this instance she did. But she hopes to find somebody who, like, she doesn't have to feel like she's got to be checking up on that. And that's it with that guy.

Like, no. No more anything. Sandra's all done. That's gross. I know. People are so gross. Just don't cheat. Just break up.

Just don't cheat. You're not married. Why are you cheating? Exactly. So dumb. Just break up and Just don't cheat. You're not married. Why are you cheating? Exactly. So dumb. Just break up and go be with that other fucking, go be with a Thai masseuse if that's who you want to be with. Exactly.

You get married and then you cheat. That's, everyone knows that's how it goes. Yeah. Okay. So our guest today is a singer. She has a very big song out that everyone is trying to dance to. Well, most people are doing it effectively. I'm pretty much the only one who can't do this dance. Her song is called Made You Look. This was her fourth studio album.

And she just launched the second season of her podcast, which is called Working On It, which she co-hosts with her brother, Ryan Trainor. So please welcome Megan Trainor. Hi, Megan Trainor. Hi. Oh, so exciting. An in-person meet and greet. In person. Look it, I'm on the show. I know. It's exciting. I mean, we've, of course, so exciting. An in-person meet and greet. In person. Look it, I'm on the show. I know, it's exciting. I mean, we've of course met before. A couple of times, yeah. This is Catherine, our producer.

I know, Catherine. Hi, how are you? Thanks for having me. Oh my God, thanks. I love you, Meghan Trainor. I love you. I'm so happy for your success that you're having right now. Thank you.

I mean, I think the last time we saw each other, we talked about the music industry a little bit. And I remember you telling me something like, even though you can be really well known, you sometimes don't feel like you're in the mix. You said something along those lines. Well, yeah, I never feel famous. And like, I don't feel like I, I keep, I feel like I always have to keep proving myself. And it's been almost like 10 years and I'm like I don't know that yeah it's hard I think a lot of people probably feel that way I mean I think just like a hard critic on myself too yeah are you my parents yeah like in what ways give me an example um like when I was writing this new album every song I had I would I would approach it I gotta

be better at my self-talk and self-love but I would play like made you look this big hit I sang it to my brother my older brother and, and was like, is this trash? Like, is this terrible or is this good? You know, instead of being like, I've had this idea, you know, I start right away with like, I think I suck at writing. And if you don't have like a radio hit for a long time, you can get in your head of like, well, it must be me. I think I'm trash, you know? Yeah, absolutely. I can totally relate to that feeling. You have to always make yourself relevant, which is a lame way to

describe it. It's like starting over every time. Yeah. And you're only as good as like, you know, when you have success, it's like it dims so quickly. You're like, wait, wait, wait, what? I just did that. What are you talking about? Yeah. So it's, it's nice to be back in the spotlight. I know. I know. And you could. And you could actually dance for a white woman. Oh, my God. You have rhythm. Shut up. Thank you.

This is coming from someone. Listen, I tried to fucking rehearse that song on the road. I was on tour with my opener, my security guard, and then another one of us. I'm so uncoordinated, and I don't have any rhythm. I'm cursed with some Jewish disease that I have. Yes. That song, when I saw it, I was like, that's what I could do. I could do that. I could do that

dance. And we tried several times and then finally it became sad. No, that took me three days to learn. Three days? Three days. Yeah, but when you do it, you can move things like... Now I got it. Yeah, you have rhythm. Yeah, I always wanted to dance, but I was the girl in middle school

at the school dances that was sitting by myself in the corner like, I can I always wanted to dance, but I was the girl in middle school, like, at the school dances that was, like, sitting by myself in the corner, like, I can't go out and dance in front of people, you know? Really? And then in high school, you could, like, drink a little bit, and then you're like, woo! Yeah, yeah, exactly. Party. Drinking, as always. You can't drink, but I did. I took, like, three weeks off of drinking recently because I was hosting the Critics' Choice Awards.

You nailed it, by the way. Oh, thank you. And you're so hot. Thank you. And then my publicist goes, Chelsea, you should, no alcohol. She Oh, thank you. And you're so hot. Thank you. And then my publicist goes, Chelsea, you should, no alcohol. She goes, maybe you should just stick with it. I was like, go fuck yourself. Alcohol is my support system. It is my buddy. Now, okay, your life has changed a lot in the last couple of years because you had a baby. I did. The cutest little baby. Oh my God,

he's adorable. Hello, redhead. Tell me about that, that kind of change in your life with your husband. Well, how long have you been married now? What does he say behind you? Four years. Four years. And when did you have your baby? When do we have the baby? He's almost two. He's almost two in February. So you've got a real handle on things that are happening. I'm peaking and I'm thriving. And tell me about how that's changed your life becoming a wife and becoming a mom. Just the best. Yeah, it's I was one of those like I've always wanted to. I had baby dolls instead of Barbie dolls. I had babies when I was young and I was like, I will be a mother of 12. You know, that was my goal. My mom had three of us. I'm one of three. So I know I want a bunch of kids. I know I want like four. I'm going to try for four, but that sounds loud, you know, but it's, it's been the best. And I

always thought that I would settle for some loser and like fix him later. But I got me a man who like massages my feet and takes care of me and like worships the ground I step on. And I didn't know that existed, you know, but it exists. He still like opens every door I walk through and like carries my gallon of water for me and makes me breakfast. I got so lucky. I always tell people like, I won. That's awesome. I won. I found him and I won.

It feels like you win when you fall in love, right? Like you're like, oh my god, I get this too on top of everything else. Right? Like I get this lucky? Something's going on, you know? That's where we're at in life right now. Where is that accent from that's, like, underneath? Nowhere. I don't know.

I'm Massachusetts. Oh, okay. But, like, my bros, they're like, oh, bro, like, we talk like this, you know? It's like we go to Long Island, but we don't. It's very much, nobody actually knows it, but it's Nick Kroll on his TV show that he had back in the day.

The Kroll Show. It was our favorite thing to watch. And he had a skit where there were like these bros that sound like my brothers when they talk. And they're like, let's bounce these gals, bro. So we talk like that a lot. I don't have sisters. Oh, you don't? You have two brothers.

And you're the, are you the youngest? I'm the middle. Middle. So I was attacked. Uh-huh. By either side. Yeah. It was two against one always. But your was attacked. Uh-huh. By either side. Yeah. It was two against one always.

But your one brother lives out here too. Do both of them? They both live in my house. One just turned 30. One's about to turn 27. And I'll never let them leave. That's really funny. I had my brother lived in my house.

And he did leave because I had to tell him, get out. Yeah. He lived with me for about, he was Roy. He lived with me for a while. And then one morning I walked in my kitchen and this girl was like, can we get, can we take a picture? Stop! That came out of his bedroom.

And I'm in my bathrobe. And I was like, hey, Roy, this is so inappropriate. And he's like, what? I go, if you're bringing people home, like you have to make sure that A, they're not coming home to meet me. Like that can't be the thing. Yeah. And he goes, well, whatever I have to do to get him there.

No. And then I was like, oh, fuck, Roy. I was like, Roy, you got to get out of here. I've only had like a few of those where my brother would bring home thoughts when he was drinking. And he'd be like, who's this? And they, like one girl took a video of the entire backyard and then tagged me. And I was like, she's dead to us.

And he was like, yeah, she's dead to us. Yeah. But he's good at, he only brings home girls now that he knows will be cool kind of and my younger brother just learned that lesson the hard way he started dating online and and the girls would say I'm a musician and I was like uh-uh like it's not gonna work right and he was like well I told her I'd bring her to the studio and I was like this is my basement in my house yeah I have a child and he like had to understand why that was wrong. So I had to teach them some stuff. But now my younger brother's dating a great girl and my older brother is still single as fuck. We can try and pimp him out a little later. So you and your mom are really tight. I remember meeting her a couple of times when I've met you before. Is she really involved in your career? Yeah, she would have come today.

She packed my lunch and she's my assistant. She would have come today, but it's a tight room. So she was like, I'll stay back. And I was like, thanks for your sacrifice. She's just so lovely and so selfless and is the best person. And I don't, I never liked having an assistant that was like a different person or I would like fall in love with them and make them my best friend forever. And for my mom, it's just, she did all that stuff anyways, you know? She always took care of me anyways. So I was like, you're my assistant. It's kind of like an assistant is your mother in many ways.

My housekeeper is like my mom or nanny at the very least. Yeah, she's my nanny. Yeah. It's nice that you have your family so close by. So how old were you when you moved out here? Like 18, 19. And was it just so intimidating and scary? Well, I lived in Nashville for a year and I wrote all about that base there. And then at exactly a year, they were like, hey, you have to move out of Nashville and go to LA. And I would come out

here like when I was 18 for a little weeks at a time for songwriting trips. And I'd stay at a hotel. That stuff was scary for sure. Which hotel did you stay at? I don't remember. That one that all the young actor kids stay at? There's like a community. I wish I was there. I was in the motels.

I was in the spooky places or like Airbnbs that I shouldn't have been in. But I had like an older friend who could drink and I was underage. So we would walk to a liquor store and she would get it. And there's like a guy dressed as the Joker. And I was like, this is where I'm going to die. Like, this is how I'm going to die in L.A. at 19 years old. Yeah. I called my mom.

I was like, this is it. I'm about to get murdered. But I lived. And how was your entree into the music industry? Like, what was your first big. First of all, are you still with the same label that you were when you are? Oh, that's a success story. Well, you're trapped. You know what I mean? Love them though. They're great They're so great. I love them, but I'm on my f5 albums

So I'm like about to start my fifth one eventually, you know, so I got one more with them and Christmas don't count. It doesn't count. But yeah, they're great. And when I wrote bass, like L.A. Reid was at Epic Records at the time, and he signed me and was like, this is going to be huge. And I was like, okay. And I was like a baby songwriter. And when people signed me as a songwriter, I took that as, like I was insecure about my looks. And I was like, okay, that confirmed it.

They think I should be behind the scenes, like writing songs for the pop stars stars and then when L.A. Reid saw me and was like well I need whoever singing this song to just sing the song and I was like hello and he was like that face he said that to me I was like this face yeah and I was like okay and then I just like held on tight for dear life and was like I've always wanted to be a pop star but I didn't know anyone would believe in me and I just held on and faked it till I made it you know wow how great of a story is that every day I'm like what the fuck am I doing here you know yeah but everybody feels that way too yeah I'm like who's confident who's confident yeah people are always going to me you're so confident I'm like if I'm so confident I don't feel that confident I just yeah you know what I mean yeah they're like you write these anthems you're so calm like they're for me it's

like my therapy like get up girl and how do you know when a song is gonna hit like like when do you find out that a song is how long does it take before you know that it's gonna skyrocket the way it has for you this last song your most recent I always asked because I was signed to a company that had big country writers, and I always asked them, like, how do you know it's a hit? And they're like, oh, you never know. Like, I thought bass was my least best song out of everything. I was like, the all of the bass one, that's the one they like.

My parents were like, this song out of all the other pop songs you have? But that one, I remember the music video came out, and I was so embarrassed that my high school friends would see me, like, in a dress, because I wear all black, and I'm, like, in hoodies. And I was like in a dress because I wear all black and I'm like in hoodies and I was like oh my god they're gonna make fun of me and then when it hit 20,000 views I was like well that was fast and then it started to get like up to a million and I was like uh-oh like a million people have seen this and then Justin Bieber did a remix of it and I called my brother who was in Florida in college and I was like you got to drop out bro like it's over we got to move to LA like we're so famous now bro it's done but like nowadays with TikTok this song made you look we were looking at the numbers of how many people

made a video to that song and once it got to like a hundred000 remakes, we're like, oh, we got something. And then now it's at like millions. What is it, Pepe? He'll tell you if you ask. 3.4 million people have made a video to that song. Oh, my God. And so we're like, it's all here. That's when you're good, when you're peaking on TikTok.

Yeah, yeah, that's good. Well, congratulations on that success fun for you right so fun and you so deserve it because you're so normal i like that about you everyone says that about you i mean really well not everybody but the people we have in common whenever i say something about you know how much i like you everyone's like she's just so normal and down to earth and you know you are you a good girl. So on this podcast, okay, get ready, Megan. This is where your life skills are going to come into play, okay? People are calling and some people are fucked up and they need help. And we need to give it to them. Right.

And this is the way we give back. Oh, charity. I love this. Yes, yes. Wow. I actually did pick some especially fucked up ones for you, Megan, because I know you're, like, honest and real. I actually did pick some especially fucked up ones for you, Megan, because I know you're like honest and real. I'm honest and real.

I'll tell you about my anal fissures. I'll do anything. Amazing. Anal fissure or anal fish? My butthole is bleeding. Oh, anal fissure. Currently? Fissure, yeah.

Yeah, I didn't know if you said fish. I didn't know if that was something I didn't know about an anal fish. The fish that lives in my anus. No, it's a slice in my booty. I recently had somebody telling me about their anal fissure. It's a thing. Yeah, it is. I didn't know it was a thing until I have a lot of gay managers and they were like,

girl, let me tell you. And I was like, right? This thing is crazy. Is it from having a baby? I guess so, but I didn't push out mine. I got C-section. I got a cut out. Oh, well then it's not from having a baby.

No, I think it's my hard poops. And I asked a doctor and she was like, I was like, I eat really clean. Like, I'm healthier than ever. I drink a gallon of water. She's like, I wish it was as simple as change your diet. She's like, some people just have hard poops and have to live off of Miralax. And so I'm a Miralax bitch now. Really?

Yeah. Nothing works for you to go to the bathroom beside? Nothing makes it soft. Unless I have like burning Indian hot food, you know? Have you ever tried magnesium O3? Do you know what that is? I used to pop magnesium. I'll try that.

Magnesium O3 is like a game changer for me. Magnesium. Everyone's like, I've heard that lately. It's like, oh yeah. If you do four of those a night, I did this once on Instagram and I can't tell you how many people are like, you don't understand. You changed my poop game. And actually I only used it for a period of time and I don't

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It's great. It's almost like her face. When I try to explain it to straight men for music videos, I'm like, Kardashian, like Mariah Carey. Like, I want you to be like, is she there? Is she not there? Like a clear ghost. That's what I want.

Oh, fake. Yes. That's what I want. Well, we're going to start with a caller today, ladies. Are you ready for this? Okay, I'm ready. Yeah, we're ready. Estamos listos.

Our first caller is Anne. She says, Dear Chelsea, I'm 27 years old and at that exciting time of my life where it seems like all my friends are getting married. I'm planning a pretty big wedding myself, and I've already invited all my college friends and their significant others. The problem is, I met my friend's boyfriend for the first time at a wedding recently, and to say he left a bad impression on me would be an understatement. He got drunk to the point of being cut off from the bar and was yelling profanities to our friend and several bridesmaids, calling them bitches, among other things. Whoopsie doodle. I also learned that this is not the first time he's behaved like this during a night out.

My friend ended the night in tears, embarrassed over her boyfriend's behavior, and swears he is the nicest guy until he drinks too much. She sees it as an innocent mistake, but I see it as a consistent pattern of abuse when he drinks. My fiancé and mom have both told me that I should uninvite him to our wedding if there's a risk of him becoming angry, over-drinking, or picking fights with other guests. I do agree with them, but I also think it could be possible for him to clean up his act before our wedding next summer. How do I bring up my concerns about his behavior to my friend without damaging our years-long friendship? Sincerely, Anne. Hi, Anne. Hi, Anne. Hi, how are you guys? This is our special guest, Megan Trainers, here today. Oh my gosh, hi, Megan. Okay, so is that the first time you've seen him act like that? That's actually the first time I've ever met him. So yeah, that's the first time I've seen

him act like that. And according to my other friends who actually live in the same city as her, this is like common. So that made me super uncomfortable. And are you going to see him at all before the wedding? Or do you guys? The only chance that I will is if I visit my hometown or maybe he'll come to like another friend's wedding that's before mine. There's like a ton of us getting married all within the next year. So it's possible,

but I don't usually like see this group of friends unless we all get together in a big group. So most likely not. I feel like you can't judge somebody on one interaction no matter what anyone else is telling you. If it happens twice, you absolutely have carte blanche to be like, no, I've seen him twice and he's a hot mess two times. But on one interaction, I just really don't think it's fair to judge somebody because anybody could be having the worst situation. I know you've heard that he

acted like that, but you didn't witness it yourself. Yeah, totally. You've heard that he's done that multiple times. Yeah. Like there was one of my friends who was also at the wedding. She said, oh yeah, there was another time where we were out and unprovoked. He just called me ugly, like out of the blue. He was like, you're really effing ugly. So it's just like things like that, that I'm like, I don't want any negative energy. You don't want to be called ugly at your wedding? Why? Why not? I don't want my friends to be called ugly at my wedding. I don't care. You don't want to be called ugly at your wedding? Why? Why not? I don't want my friends to be called ugly at my wedding. I don't care. I don't give a shit what

he thinks about me. Well, I mean, you can always have him removed from the wedding if he acts like an asshole. I mean, calling women bitches is I have more of a problem with that than him being drunk. You know what I mean? Like that's kind of the grossest part so far. Because there were other like a lot of the boyfriends to be on fair, like a lot of them were drinking heavily. So, but I can forgive stupid behavior. It's when you're being an absolute asshole to women and like being disrespectful, that made me really uncomfortable. And then my friend was in tears on the shuttle ride home because she was like, he always does this. And then he says he's going to stop. And then it happens again, like months later. So it was like coming from

her firsthand. That's what made me like really sad. Okay. I think dude's got a problem. Yeah. When you can't control your booze like that multiple times, there's an issue. Also, I just want you to know, I got married. I that and it was like who do I invite who do I not I'm gonna make I'm gonna hurt people fuck all that this is your wedding if you hear another incident happens you're allowed the day before to be like that's okay I would I don't want him to come because I heard of that you know you can keep him invited this whole time and if you hear one more thing I say fuck it your it. Your wedding, your rules. Who cares about anyone's feelings?

Your day. Yeah, I know. That's one of the hardest things I've had with planning a wedding is making sure that I don't piss other people, not piss other people off, but I'm a people pleaser. I want my parents to be happy.

I want my friends to be happy. I want everyone to have a good time. So that's been a challenge to navigate with such a big guest list. And I wish we could just nuke it and elope. Right? It'll make you crazy. I had like 100 people because it was my backyard and I couldn't fit that many people. So I had to say no to a lot of people. And I'll tell you what, nobody was mad or they didn't tell me to my face. So in my head, I'm like, we slayed that. But I let you know, I cut so many people off. Yeah. You can't really say to anyone. Well, I mean, if it's your friend, but you can't really say, why didn't you invite me

to your wedding? Yeah. That's not something that. Actually, someone did say that to me. And I was like, it was a present. And I got over it. So what are you thinking now after talking to us? What do you think?

I mean, when this first happened, I was very in the mind of like, because my fiance actually couldn't come to this wedding. So I was telling him all about it the next day. And he has a problematic friend who we actually, who's like a way closer friend that we decided not to invite because of his behavior. So he was like, well, you know, we've decided to nix this person. This guy was being really rude to like all your friends. I think we should cut him off. So at first I'm like, okay, I think I agree with you. After letting the dust settle, I'm like, I don't know.

Maybe I just want to let it ride and just hope for the best. So that's kind of where I was at even before this call. I think that's maybe where I'm at. Just letting him come. Yeah. And you have till summer, right? And you can also if he is an asshole at the wedding, I mean, obviously, this isn't an ideal situation, but you can have him removed, then you don't have to have the conversation with her ever because that happened. True. Yeah. And I think if you do decide to let him come and like not disinvite him, I think you need to make this someone else's

assignment so it doesn't become your problem. So maybe there's a couple of really good guy friends who you're like, look, we all know how he acted at so-and-so's wedding. I need you two guys. If he's getting belligerent, tell whoever needs to be told to like kick him out of the wedding. But don't let it be like people are coming to you being like, hey, somebody is being an asshole. Preempt it. But I also feel like there's a lot of emotion coming up for you with this. And you might be sort of peeking out of the corner of your eye at what's going to happen. If you feel like you want to disinvite him, you can. These gals are right.

It is your wedding. And then just send this to that friend. Send this episode. I was like having my fingers crossed that my friends aren't listening to this because I don't want to put two and two together well somebody that you know will hear this and put two and two together so there's no way around okay we're using a pseudonym okay we're using a pseudonym but but so you have all conflicting advice sorry we suck No, that's good. We have different perspectives. I don't think it's going to be a big deal, but I do think if he does something again before,

you know, if you hear about you, I think you have to witness it yourself. Everyone telling you information, it's never a hundred percent accurate. And I'm sure your friends aren't lying to you, but I'm just like, it's not fair to based on hearsay, say that I would say it's fair based on him calling women bitches for you to go, sorry, but your boyfriend was calling women bitches. If you want to have the conversation, that's the opener. Yeah. I mean, is there a way you could talk to your friend and be like, hey, maybe you guys have an agreement for my wedding that he just doesn't drink. Maybe he can have an edible beforehand or whatever, but maybe this isn't the moment for him to drink.

Don't reward him with other drugs. So the day after, he actually did text me and a bunch of our other friends. And you could tell that it was like, my friend told him the next day, you did this, you need to apologize. So I never responded because I was going to actually wait to see what you guys said and think on it some more. But I think maybe responding to that might be a good way to open the conversation and gauge how they're feeling a couple months after the fact. What was the text that he sent? It was basically like, oh, I just wanted to let you know I'm really sorry for the way I acted last night. I know that was not a good impression, just stuff like that. And then saying that he loves my friend more than anything in the world.

And like he didn't mean to hurt our feelings. But it wasn't owning what he did. It was just more it came off more as like my girlfriend told me to apologize. But he was honestly so drunk that I don't think he remembers doing this. Yeah, maybe there's a conversation there even directly with him and also maybe separately with your friend of like, hey, you know how much I love her. I'm so excited to have her at my wedding. And I know you guys are a couple. We want you to be there too. Maybe this is a time that you like don't drink. If you want to do me a solid, I would

really appreciate that. Yeah. I think that's a good point. And then, you know, still have your friends keep an eye on him. Because he might. Yeah, I like that idea too. I like that a lot. And then hopefully I don't have to hear about it. Exactly, exactly. All right, well, let us know what happens and good luck. Okay, thank you guys.

It was great to chat with you. Okay, take care. Bye. Thanks, Anne. Bye. Okay, well, that was a confusing. Okay. Take care. Bye. Thanks, Anne. Bye. Okay. Well, that was a confusing.

Yes. Mostly for, yeah. Sorry, y'all. I came in hot. No. That's what we want. We want. That was good, but we just all had different opinions somehow.

You're like, let him in. I was like, fuck him. Well, our next question comes from Chantal, and this is just an email, so she won't be joining us. Dear Chelsea, I'm a 26-year-old registered nurse. My depression started in my late teens, and I've been on antidepressants for three years now. Medication has completely changed my life. In the last few years, I graduated from two universities with degrees, started my dream career during a pandemic, and met my fiancé. We're getting married in September and plan to start having children immediately after.

My worry is that I will develop postpartum depression. I don't have much family history of mental illness, and my depression started when I started birth control pills, so I'm hoping that'll go away when I stop those. Although I'll have my baby to live for and to protect and love, I'm scared of being a failure. What should I do to prepare myself? Thank you, Chantal. This is so good for me. Megan's going to take this one. Woo! Wow.

Did you pick that for me? I sure did. You sure did. Oh, yes, I did. Okay. What was she worried about, though, like being on her medication at the end? I think she's mostly worried about, like, continuing to have depression afterward, postpartum depression, and— Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.

Yeah. I got it. Ready for this? Okay, so I was never on antidepressants my whole life, and, like, and my family is very uneducated about that stuff, so there was, like, a shame part for sure in their Massachusetts old ways. And when I, I was like 22 when I started having a terrible chemical dip in my brain and had panic disorder. And it started with like my focal surgeries and having to be silent for so

long with your thoughts. And I had my boyfriend who's my husband now. So everything was great. I was like, I'm really happy, but I have a migraine and running diarrhea what's wrong with my body my chemicals are so flopped that I would go to the emergency room a couple times thinking like oh I'm allergic to something because I can't fucking breathe and finally was educated and learned like oh this is panic attacks this is

what everyone's been talking about and this is my early 20s mental breakdown. And it was wonderful because I figured it out. And I saw a psychiatrist who said, like, we can give you antidepressants. And I was like, oh, man, no one in my family is on those. I don't know anything about those. I've just heard so much shame growing up of like, you're on a pill. So I was like, please, I'm desperate for anything. And he told me how there's four different types and one might work for you and one might not and I the first one I did worked and I like it was like all the scary noise stopped

and I was like yes and it was the best I'm on like the lowest I'm on 20 milligrams of Cytalabram that's what I pop every night and then it was amazing and I never never had a panic attack ever since and I was like, I am cured. I take, I've been on it for like over five years.

Love it. Cannot recommend it enough. Then I was like, I want a baby. And I talked to my doctors and was like, what's the deal? Am I good? And all of my doctors said, this one is safe. Don't take any of the heavy stuff, which I wasn't taking anyway. So it was fine.

I was on like the lowest thing of Ativan. And I, that was for emergencies. That was the same one you were already on. They so it was fine. I was on like the lowest thing of Ativan, and that was for emergencies. That was the same one you were already on. They said it was safe? My cytopram, yeah. My cytopram was safe. My first OBGYN doctor said, oh, get rid of those candies,

and I wanted to stab him in the eye. I was like, you don't know what I went through with all this. Like, what do you mean throw them in the trash? Fuck you. Like, I need a mean throw them in the trash? Fuck you. Like, I need a plan if I have to get off them to wean off them and figure out what's going on. When all of my other doctors said, it's safe, stay on it,

because a happy mama is happy baby. And I was so scared of like, dude, what if my panic attacks come back? Like, I got to get off these pills. What if they come back and I have postpartum depression like everyone else has? It's going to be extra worse for me, I feel like. And I stayed on my meds because all of my doctors cleared it and said, it's fine. I got a new OBGYN because fuck that old guy. And she was so nice to me and was like, this is great. I stayed on it through my whole pregnancy and had an amazing,

healthy pregnancy and gave birth to a perfect, beautiful boy and stayed on my medicine after. I had zero depression in my pregnancy. I had zero postpartum depression and I couldn't recommend staying on it more. If you're in a routine and a system, it was everything for me. And I want to have another baby and I'm on the same exact dose. And I talked to my doctor like, yo, I'm trying to have another baby. Are we good? He's like, we good. If you like you want to switch it up, we can. But I just love my little pills every night. I hear you, sister. I mean, I do. That's so great. Is this woman on antidepressants right now, though? She's on them. Yeah, she is. And she said it was everything was great. Yeah. And also the but also worrying about something that may not happen is like it's also don't.

You're suffering twice. Yes. There's no reason to suffer. There's no reason to worry or stress out. Just ask all your doctors. If everyone's clear, say you good. Exactly. And I think also if you do have any concerns about that or things getting bad, just be in really consistent conversation with your doctor and be talking through it, get in therapy, whatever you need to do to sort of like smooth

over that bump if, if in fact you do get some postpartum depression. What's great now too is they don't do it, I wish they did it at all your appointments when you're pregnant, but after you're pregnant and you have your baby, you go to your pediatrician's office, every single appointment there's a piece of paper for how's your kid doing, How do you feel about it? And there's a piece of paper just for mama. Mama, how you feeling? Like, oh my God. I was like, when did this come out? This is amazing. Probably a week ago. Literally this week. And I was like, this is so helpful and great. Thank you for making me answer these questions.

Well, so there you go. Ask for help. And also don't worry about something before it happens. That is just so, I know it's easier said than done, but you have to practice flipping your switch and flipping those thoughts into a positive thing, you know? Get knocked up. Yeah. Yeah. Well, she is knocked up, isn't she? Or is she trying to get pregnant?

She's going to try soon. Oh, I thought she was already pregnant. Okay. Yeah. We'll first get pregnant. She's like way far down the road worrying about this. So, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Our next caller is Teresa. Teresa says, Dear Chelsea, I'm 28. I went to your show in Kansas City and cried laughing. I wanted to thank you for the vulnerability and strength you gave when you spoke about your breakup on the We Can Do Hard Things podcast. I listened to it once when it came out and cried with you, and once again to get the confidence and encouragement to break up with my boyfriend of four years. Something I've struggled with the last few years has been knowing the difference between anxiety and intuition in my body. As I learned to differentiate the two, I finally came to understand what you meant when you said, I wasn't going to abandon myself.

As a recovering people pleaser, I realized how often I was abandoning myself in my relationship. So thank you for planting the seed. My question has to do with moving on. I moved out of my ex's home and now am living in my parents' basement, which feels like a total step backwards after being so independent. My impulse and tendency after a major loss is to sell everything, move to a new city, new job, new apartment, cut off my hair, and start over. So naturally, that's what I'm considering. I'm currently a

nanny for a very stable and supportive family, but they live 45 minutes from my parents' house. I feel confident I can get a job anywhere, and I have a brother and extended family in Georgia and friends in Florida who've both offered a place to stay so I can get on my feet. It feels like the perfect getaway, but am I too old to be running away and starting over? I have a stable support system here where I am, but I finally feel free like this world is my oyster. I just don't want to make an impulsive decision. Please help, Teresa. Hi, Teresa.

Hi, Teresa. Dude, I forgot that they come in here, and I'm like, who's that? It's a surprise to me every single time too. I'm like, oh my God, it's her. Hi. It's me. Hello, how are you? This is Megan Trainor. She's our guest today. Nice to meet you, Teresa. Hi, you're so cute. Look at you. You're so cute. Are you too old? That is such a, that right there is if you're saying that the answer is no, no. It doesn't matter at all. Like it's whatever you're feeling when you have a good attitude towards it and you have excitement that begets more excitement and more good vibes and more good attitude. So if you're already feeling that way, everything's going to work

out. It doesn't matter which decision you make, as long as your attitude is in the right place and you're optimistic and energized. Also, you're hot. You're fine. You're gorgeous. Yeah, totally. Oh my God. Oh my God. Those are real teeth. Can I put you? I'm dying. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I think that's kind of my main thing. It's like I have, I'm just at this fork in the road where I know that it'll be okay either

way, but I just, I don't want the fear of choosing the wrong thing to limit me. And I think that's what I keep doing. And I keep getting anxious about it and then like prolonging it. I need to make a decision and do it or else I am going to be stuck here in my parents' basement forever. And that thought is really what's driving me crazy. Whatever decision you make is going to be the right one. It'll work out. I remember going on stage once and I was reading a chapter from one of my books. It was like for my book launch. And I was like, I just I can't decide which chapter to read, which chapter

to read. And one of my girlfriends goes, it doesn't fucking matter. Choose one. And then that's the right one. And I was like, oh, OK. But it was true because you just have to make a decision and then stick to it. So your choices are between what, Florida and Georgia, you said? Well, if I keep nannying, then I could really go anywhere. There's this agency that I've been talking to and they have families from all over California and Georgia. So I'd love to go somewhere where I already have family or friend established just because it would be nice to have some sort of support there. But yeah,

I could be anywhere. So because I could live in with any family if I find a family that I could live with. Get out of the Midwest for a little bit. Yeah. And don't go to Florida. Don't not go to Florida. Go to Georgia. Yeah. Go to Atlanta. Or if you mentioned California, I mean, everything, moving to California is just a dream for anyone who's not from here. You just can't believe it when you get here. Yeah. And I have family there and one of my best friends lives there. So like, honestly, California would be ideal, but it's just, I have to find the right fit. And the timing is kind of important as well, just because the family that I work for now wants 90 days. And so like the timing of looking for something and then making the jump, it just,

it feels like it has to be perfect, but I think I just need to like go for it and get it started. I guess. Yeah. I think you need to take the plunge and just figure it out. Go to Atlanta or go to California. Just flip a coin. Literally flip a coin. Literally flip a coin. It's going to be right. It's going to be great. Yeah. Nowadays, when I'm deciding like what job to take,

like as a singer, I'm like, should I take this opportunity to be on this TV show? Like, is that what I'm supposed to do with my career? Where am I going? I just, I think it was Oprah or someone that was like, do shit that scares you. It probably wasn't Oprah. But yeah, but I've been doing stuff that scares me.

And it's been like my career is just going up, up, up, up, up. Like the scarier the thing is, I'm like, OK, let's go. It's like the better for me. OK, well, that's basically what this is. And also it's also impressive that you got out of a relationship which forced you to move into your parents' basement. That's badass because you said you're saying to the universe that is not acceptable and you're elevating what's coming your way so you're already winning you are yes yes and you know if you believe in all this stuff 27 28 that's your saturn return it's a time of change and

upheaval and renewal in your life. So go have a fucking adventure. Yes. That's what feels exciting for me is the adventure. It is terrifying. I have my home base, which I'm really thankful for to be able to come home. But now I have a place to keep all my stuff and I'm just going to peace out and see where life takes me because I don't have... I have good people that will support me through whatever. I always have a place to come back to. So, yeah, I think I just needed that encouragement. Good, good. Well, I'm glad you got it.

Yeah. Thank you so much. You're so pretty. Thank you. Thank you guys for doing the show. Send us a picture of your new boyfriend when you meet him. Yes, please. Oh, yeah, in California.

Yes, under a palm tree somewhere. Yes. Thank you guys so much. Thanks, Teresa. Bye. Put in your 90 days. Well, that was easy, guys. We were all aligned on that one.

Yeah. Yeah. We were all on the same page. What are you talking about with this 27 and the 28? Well, so your Saturn return, if you believe in all that astrology stuff. I love it. Are you a witch? No. Oh my gosh, I wish. I want to be a witch. I just don't want to read all the books. I know it's a lot of study. It's a lot of study. So your Saturn return is a time in your life when Saturn is in the same astrological position as the moment you were born.

So right around that time is when there's a lot of upheaval, there's a lot of change, renewal. A lot of times you have big life shifts like this breakup. I had a baby. There you go. Oh, really? It came out of me. Yeah, 27 and 37 is also a year not Saturn returns. Because how can Saturn return for your birthday every 27 years? Doesn't it have to do its own thing?

I think it's like wherever it was when you were born. You might not know this, but I'm an astrological wizard. Really? Yeah, I know pretty much everything about the solar system. I want to. I know. Megan, you and I need to do a little reading. No, I know what you're talking about now. The moon and the sun are not the same. I am a very confused person. Okay. Well, great. Mission accomplished. Yes. We did good.

Yes. Well, we have one more question. This question is from Mitchell. Mitchell is 19. This is kind of a harder one. He says, hi, Chelsea. I'm a 19-year-old gay ginger male, and I'm asking for your thoughts and advice on how to move forward from dealing with emotional abuse from kindergarten to sixth grade and sometime after that. To start, I was born with anxiety, a learning disability, and Asperger's syndrome. The earliest memories I have are from when I was six years old

and in kindergarten. I remember my face being red hot and feeling scared and overwhelmed with embarrassment because my female teacher was pointing and talking out loud to me about how I didn't understand how to do whatever we were working on as much as the other kids did. After that, I remember sitting in a corner of a parent-teacher conference and feeling very sad, not smart or normal at all, because my kindergarten teacher was talking about how I was not as smart as the other kids. From there on, things only got worse. Since I was a quiet, not smart ginger kid, I got bullied and made fun of by my classmates. In particular, two girls bullied me from kindergarten till sixth grade. Today, I still think about people joking about how gross it was I had ginger hair all over me and that nobody would ever love me.

I was not as smart as the other kids, lonely, a loser, ugly, sad, had no friends, and of course, there was name-calling. I want to love myself, but I feel so scarred. So what are your thoughts on advice on how to love myself? Mitchell. Ugh, Mitchell. I already love Mitchell. That breaks my heart because I'm going to have four ginger babies. You have the gingerous baby.

Yeah, I do. And like redheads nowadays, I don't know what it is, but they are the most popular. I agree with that. Redheads have had a real turnabout. They've had a real turnaround. Redheads are in vogue. So you're lucky because your timing couldn't be more perfect. Yeah. And I will also say I read a lot of emails that come into this show. And you are very smart, Mitchell, because this is one of the better written emails that I have seen. And I also believe, Mitchell, listen, I had a very tough time in elementary school

and continue to have a tough time in middle school. I mean, we've all been in a situation where we have been judged by others and it feels like shit. But that's not the situation you're in anymore. And if that does happen to you, it is so character building. So all you have to take away from that situation is strength because A, you survived it and B,

it's over. So you have like a whole opportunity for your new story to begin and it should start today. You know, that is the past. You can never affect the past. It's over. The more you focus on it, the bigger it gets. You have to move into the present moment and realize that you're not that little kid anymore. You're not defenseless. And no one's calling you names. And it's cool to be a redhead now. Agreed. And you know what?

Just because some people are not into redheads, other people are very into redheads. Very. Like, very specifically. I married one. Yeah. I dated a redhead who had an incredible, incredible penis. And I don't throw that around. Dude, they're humongous.

Is it a redhead thing? It's a redhead thing. Oh, my God. Well, there you go. You redheads have the biggest penises. Problem solved. It's a weird thing, but that's a thing. Is that?

See? Yes, that is a thing. It's like a sculpture. I don't think they're pretty, but his is like, great God, but like the big ones. Right. So see, you get different gifts. Everybody gets different gifts. We know you're hung, Ken.

Oh my God. Yeah. You've got big red dick energy. I love how, and Chelsea's like, move on to the presents now. But if there's something that was really traumatic, my brother just did trauma therapy. It's different than like regular therapy. He met with a trauma specialized therapist that went back. He had a slumber party when he was like in elementary school that fucked him up for a year.

It was one night, but that one night really destroyed him. And he I tried to be like, go to therapy, go to therapy. And he refused. And finally, Dr. Drew came on our podcast, Working on a Pod, and told him like, oh, why don't you try trauma therapy? And he did that. And he came home and was like, you were right. I really needed that. Like that changed.

And he's been like so much happier ever since. Wow. Yeah. Megan is just dropping. Yes. Should I come back? I mean, it seems like. I live down the street.

It seems like you found your groove. Oh, my God. I'm here. And mom can come next time. Mama. She'll be so happy. She literally waved to our car. We'll have to have your mama by herself.

She'll never. She's too shy. She needs her own screen time. What are you talking about? I know. Yes. Yeah, no, I agree. Grab some therapy,

some EMDR. I don't know if that's what your brother did, but I know that's been really helpful for a lot of people with those specific experiences. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Chelsea, anything you want to add to that? Yeah, I would just say what I said earlier, like if it was bullying, which is what I experienced. I mean, I once had a girl call me on the phone. She's like, don't come to school tomorrow because we're going to fucking kick your ass. And I was like, oh, fuck. And they were older girls and they tormented me. I mean, I kind of deserved it because I was also a tormentor. So it was a reciprocal situation.

But if it was like that, what I've experienced, which was name calling, like they used to call me a dog because I hooked up with a senior boy. So the senior girls hated me. Yeah, I was like, were you hot? And they were all slutty. a dog because I hooked up with a senior boy. So the senior girls hated me. Yeah, I was like, were you hot? And I'd walk down this hall and they would bark at me and call me a dog. They're like, you're so ugly. Woof, woof, woof. And they would follow me from class to class to the point where my girlfriend wouldn't even walk down the hall with me because they didn't want to get the abuse either. So like that stuff was torturous, but I am so strong because of it. Like no one fucks with me anymore.

I know exactly what to do and that won't ever happen again. So also take that attitude with you. You know, people who go through stuff like that, it's to build character. You know, you have to make a good thing out of a bad thing. Can't fuck with me now. Well, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to wrap up with Megan and Chelsea. Inside you, two wolves are locked in battle. One thrives on fear and anger and doubt.

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Like, I want to do everything. I want to put everything in my body that you put in your body. I will give you a- And your boobs. Well, my boobs- Are you sure they're real? I'm positive. Do you want to touch them? They're real.

They're not- There's no- They don't have anything in there. Oh, they're so jelly. I know. I know. There's nothing fake in them. No, I don't have fake boobs.

I don't have anything fake, really. What? I do, but I- But you're don't have fake boobs. I don't have anything fake, really. What? I do. But you're white. But I know. I know. But I do everything I can possibly do to keep my face and skin smooth and soft. And I'll give you a whole-

I drink more water than you. I know. You know what? I don't even drink that much water. I mean, can you imagine how great it would be if I did drink water? I have to put like electrolyte flavors in my water to drink it because I find water to be so fucking boring but I'll give you a whole list I do tons of stuff and you know who I go to the who the best facialist is Dr. Nigma

I've never been to a facialist really oh oh my god like two oh wait till you go to this woman I go to this facialist Dr. Nigma and she, you get a facial and your face is lifted for like a week. And so I just go to her whenever. I'll give you a comprehensive list. You're young, so you don't have to start up doing anything. I just want to freeze here, be this forever, this white ghost. Yeah, right. Well, just make sure you don't ever get a fucking tan.

Right, okay. You know that? No, I don't. You need like hats that go around. The sun is your worst enemy. Oh, yeah, the sun's the devil. Right. You know that? No, I don't. You need like hats that go around. The sun is your worst enemy. Oh, yeah. The sun's the devil. Right.

Right. I know that. So start there. Yeah. And if you, cause I didn't realize. And it's gray tan. I didn't learn about taking care of my skin until I was probably 35 years old. That's bullshit.

So there's a lot you can do. I'm literally like trying to start now. Basically what you want to do is rip your skin off once a year. Okay. So that it has to recover. Do you do the peel? Yeah. You do a peel or some crazy laser. Okay. I've never done that. Where you have to like literally can't be seen for like a year. Okay. So that it has to recover. Do you do the peel? Yeah, you do a peel

or some crazy laser where you have to like, literally can't be seen for like, you know, a week. But it makes your skin come in baby, baby, baby soft. It looks so good. Thank you.

Thanks for noticing. God. I was like, guys, what one thing you want to ask Chelsea? I was like, I want to look like you. An NAD, you guys.

That's the new thing. I inject myself every day with NAD and that's a youth molecule. What's that? Are you joking? No, I'm not joking. I have a peptide.

I inject it every morning. You can get drips or you inject it, and it's the youth molecule which reverses or stops the aging process of your cells. And has been proven to also reverse the aging process. You also text me that. Yeah, absolutely. I'll text you all of it. I have no secrets. I want to share it with everyone. I want everyone to look, have aging process. You also text me that. Yeah, absolutely. I'll text you all of it. I have no secrets. I want to share it with the world.

I want everyone to look, have beautiful skin. Yeah. Chelsea, this is what I appreciate about you because you're not like, I just use a really good cream. Like, no. I know. Everyone's so full of shit.

Yeah, bye. I was like, I want the truth. I knew you would tell me. Okay, well, I'll make that list when I get home. Megan, you've been a delightful guest as usual. Congrats on everything. I just love you and I'm just happy for you. get home. Megan, you've been a delightful guest as usual. Congrats on everything. I just love you. And I'm just happy for you.

Thank you. I love you so much. It's a big day. Thanks for having me. I hope I helped anybody. You did. And for those of you who haven't seen my special on Netflix, it's out. Revolution is out and it's streaming.

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