Dear Chelsea - Minisode: Offed in Bermuda with Rosebud Baker and Andy Haynes
Episode Date: October 18, 2024Rosebud and Andy are back for more Couples Counseling with Chelsea to discuss becoming a better partner, jealousy of your partner’s success, and why Andy thought Rosebud’s family was ready to disa...ppear him in Bermuda.  * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at DearChelseaPodcast@gmail.com * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees. This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Welcome back to A Couple's Counseling with Chelsea.
I am here with my friends Rosebud Baker and her husband, Andy Haynes.
Hi, Rosebud and Andy.
Thank you for being here today as a couple.
So as you have gotten to spend all these years together,
how many years have you been together now? Five. It'll be five. That's not even that really long of a couple. So as you have gotten to spend all these years together, how many years have you
been together now? Five. It'll be five. That's not even that really long of a time. But within
the five years, do you think that your performance within the relationship has improved? Learning to
get to know somebody, meeting someone else's needs, like how do you think that you have changed from
the beginning of the relationship to now? I think in the beginning of our relationship, I genuinely had no idea how to be a partner to someone.
You're nodding, Andy.
She was never like a not compassionate.
Don't nod.
But when I first started dating Rosebud, she was like a feral child. She was, you would go into her cupboards and there would be like a half-eaten open box of saltines and an empty Tabasco sauce.
And that was her entire pantry.
Like she.
I wasn't home.
I was on the road.
And, you know, she just was, she had like one towel, you know, it was like very, it was just a very different person.
Yeah.
But I was always, I always decorated well.
Yeah. Let's always decorated well. Yeah.
Let's just say that.
And do you think you had a big hand in not changing her personality,
but where her relationship, her ability to be within a relationship is now?
Do you feel like you had a big hand in that?
I think I probably changed what she thought she needed out of a relationship maybe or like maybe i changed like the type of
partner she thought she needed is because i don't think i'm her type if you go back to 2019 and
you're like pick a guy out of a lineup i don't think i'm i think i'm like in the waiting room
you know i'm number seven you know but i think that really changed a lot because rosebud's can i can i say this
rosebud's dad is very stoic and you know how we're like usually attracted to people that are
kind of like the opposite sex parent so i think that i was kind of the anti that to some extent
because her dad is like immovable i went to it's like hugging a ghost yeah i went on a trip with
him to the bahamas and i was like, partially like, does Rosebud want
a divorce?
And they're just going to an accident is going to happen.
Like that's the whole time I was like, just divorce me.
Like, I won't fight you.
Like, you don't have to have me killed in the Bahamas.
Yeah.
If anything, you've learned how to be less trusting in a good way.
Yeah.
Just by being a part of my family.
Yes.
I want to be now that I've gotten a little taste of it and also trusting in a good way. Yeah. Just by being a part of my family. Yes.
I want to be, now that I've gotten a little taste of it.
Less trusting or more trusting?
Less.
I want to be so, I want to be,
I want to be like one of the characters from HBO's Industry.
I want to be just a cold-blooded capitalist.
I would love it.
What impact do you think you've had on Andy since you've been married and now that you have a kid?
That.
I think Andy's learned how to kind of go, okay, my feelings aren't necessarily the facts.
I can get through this day by just like planning ahead and getting what I need to get done done.
And I can deal with my emotions later.
And I think, I don't even know if that's healthy, but it seems like it's balanced
him out a little bit. Well, yeah, I mean, it sounds healthy. I mean, if you have an emotional
reaction to everything, that's not conducive to being like an even and balanced because there's
a time and a place for those kinds of emotions, just like there's a time and a place for certain
conversations, right? Yeah. So like, yeah you you want to be able to mitigate
your emotional response in certain situations yeah and then in other situations it's totally
acceptable to be like you know if you think something's wrong with you internally and you
feel your organs are suffering yeah you know what your organs feel like when they're moved around
yeah you know that is like you can have a reaction to that but that was a big change for us like when
you had it was like earlier this summer when he was going through all of that i that was like a
big wake-up call for me where i was like oh i gotta be a better partner about like but also
i don't like sick people yeah it's not i it's not hot it's not i don't like them either i get upset around sickness and i get up i feel yes it feels
to me i'm like i i don't really afford myself it seems like a luxury and of course there's i'm not
talking about people who are like you know deathly ill or people who are like what's the word when
they're it never stops yes whatever but i'm talking about just like the flu
or like really leaning into a sickness with a guy a few weeks ago that i'm sleeping with
who limped yeah went to dinner and i was like what's wrong with your leg yeah what are you
why are you limping yeah it's like on my knee i'm like no no no i think there's something like
animal in us where we like want them to be put down. You know what I mean? Like we're like, we got to leave the pack.
You're slowing everybody down.
You're a weak link.
Right.
I've always felt that about certain men.
Certain men where I was like, you're, because I'm like, I'm kind of a pussy.
I'm a huge pussy in a lot of ways.
I think we've gotten.
But I also could survive like for a month in the woods without any help.
You know, like it's a weird.
Well, you're obviously very bright yeah but also i'm like i was raised in this like wilderness and kind of
outdoorsy and all that stuff like that and so i think i still have this thing where like if i meet
a guy and i'm like you're pathetic you know like i just i have this weird animal thing where i'm
like we gotta kill him we gotta he's gonna slow us down and we're gonna miss the winter we're not
gonna be able to get over that pass and we'll all die.
And that's what happened to me when you had your ulcer.
I know.
So you understand.
Yeah.
But I did realize I need to be a better partner.
That's good.
Yeah.
I do think that the biggest thing that I learned in the relationship recently is that I have to keep certain things for certain people. Like I do think like you can't go full Don Draper and have like another family,
but you can go like I'm going through all this stuff
and I'm not going to bring it to my wife or my kid or like the dinner table.
Well, the first thing is we don't eat at the dinner table, but also.
Also, I'm so sick of the dinner table.
Like who wants to sit down and have a full dinner every night?
I want to eat on the sofa. I want to eat on the sofa.
I want to eat on the floor.
I don't want to, the formality.
Like, I don't like that.
Well, I don't want to cook it.
It feels out of style to me.
Yeah, it does.
We went to her grandpa's house in March
and had like a big sit down dinner
and all the people came and brought the food.
And I was like, this is, you know, this is how it should be.
Yeah.
Like a Sunday roast.
You want to be a, you want to be a Kennedy is basically what you want.
Oh man.
And do you see how dysfunctional that family is?
Bring me on.
I love it.
I'm already dysfunctional.
He wants to get shot is what he's saying.
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You mentioned early before that Rosebud is the breadwinner. So how, as a modern man,
does that impact your feelings about the relationship? Is that something that you've
ever had to struggle with? Does that bother you? Did it bother you?
I definitely had to get used to it
because there's kind of, you might know this
because you've been in relationships
where you can be in a relationship
where you're both kind of doing something
and then all of a sudden one person's doing this.
And there was this feeling
when she started to get a bunch of stuff
where it was like, should we like be together?
Like, you're not gonna bring me on red carpets. Like a feeling like I was like, should we like be together? Like, you're not going to bring me on red carpets.
Like a feeling like that.
Like, should we even be together because you're doing so well?
And it was like all insecurity.
And then I think I've gotten used to it.
You know, like I think that it ebbs and flows.
And I think there'll be times where I'm probably doing a lot and she wants to not do as
much but she also I mean she's so much better at making eye contact and being personable so
maybe not you know but I haven't noticed your eye contact issue yet maybe you're I'm working on it
I took my he's actively he's actively yeah I took my propanol so that I could look you in the eyes.
During what we're discussing, like your burgeoning success, like having it happen in the beginning,
how did that make you feel to see him feel that way? I expected it a little bit. And just to be clear, like I don't, I haven't achieved like anything that I actually want to achieve yet.
Like, I mean, I've achieved more than I thought I would at to achieve yet like I mean I've achieved
more than I thought I would at the beginning but I this I don't even have a Netflix special out yet
you know what I mean so it was kind of like it was good that we went through this early because
I was like it's good to just get these feelings up and out like if you don't get them up and out
and you don't like examine them and you don't look at them and go like oh this is probably bullshit I probably don't need to feel this way
but this is how I'm feeling then that's good but there was a part of me that got really upset and
got really defensive you know there was uh defensiveness about just feminism on a feminism
level you know like this would never be a conversation if you were doing better than me
this would never be it but then I thought about it and I was like there have been comics that
I've dated that were doing better than me and I did have those same feelings so I was like this
is more about like us both being comedians than it is about men and women and I think at the end
of the day that's just something that we have to, we just
got to support each other through it and like be there for each other through it. Yeah. I think
airing out that kind of stuff is so important because the longer you ignore a problem, you know,
the bigger it gets. It comes out sideways. If you're being dishonest about that and you're not
being honest about your insecurities and labeling them, like we're all insecure and it's impossible not to be envious
of someone achieving something that you haven't yet achieved yeah so denying that is more problematic
than actually exposing those feelings yeah and I won't like deny that like a lot of it came from
like being a man you know like I was like I want her to design the living room and I just want to
write a blank check because I make that kind of money and I provide for my family and there was a lot of that that I wanted and also there was like
a competitiveness in comedy right like we're both comics and I'm so progressive I get jealous of
women comics too but you know it was like wow she's like doing a lot of the stuff that I want to do.
And so it was all insecurity.
And I think it was bumpy, but we navigated it pretty well to a place where it's pretty comfortable.
And I really did a lot of, even though I'm jealous, even though I'm insecure type of
stuff, I'm going to make sure she knows I'm really proud of her.
Because I think that was always really important that even if I had insecure type of stuff, I'm like going to make sure she knows I'm really proud of her, you know?
Cause I think that was always really important that even if I had those
feelings that I wanted her to know that I was like so stoked that she had got
cast on something or that she got a job writing for something or now that
she's like doing this special,
like it was always important for me to, for her to know that,
even if I felt some type of way.
Well, it's interesting though,
cause you're saying it comes down to you guys being comedians, and you're saying a little bit of both.
Because I'm wondering if she were in that.
Well, I'm saying a little bit of both, too.
Yeah.
Because, like, if you were in the financial world and crushing it financially,
would that have had the same impact on you?
Right.
So it is more, I think, about being comedians and being in the same business
because that's just naturally competitive.
Yeah.
It is.
And I think, but he he did he was like I
remember when I my first day at SNL I came home and Andy had this big sign up that said congratulations
you know and he was like waiting for me and was excited when I got home and I was like
and I knew how he felt you know so the fact that he was able to do that and kind of like rise above it meant so much to me.
Because I'm like, you didn't even have to do that, you know.
Yeah.
And that's all for this week with Rosebud and Andy.
Tune in next time as we continue Couples Counseling with Chelsea.
You can check out Rosebud and Andy's podcast.
It's called Find Your Beach.
Andy will be on tour in Dallas, Oklahoma City, and Tulsa in September,
Amsterdam on October 25th, and then he has two dates in Milwaukee in December.
So check out his Instagram and TikTok at I'mAndyHaynes, H-A-Y-N-E-S,
for tickets to those dates and for more.
And you can find both Andy and Rosebud on YouTube.
Rosebud will be taping her new special
on September 16th in New York at the Village Underground. And you can get tickets to this
and more of her dates at rosebudbaker.com. And you can find her on Instagram and TikTok
at Rosebud Baker. Upcoming shows that I have, I'm coming to Texas, I'm coming to St. Louis
in Kansas City, and then I will be in Las Vegas performing at the Chelsea Theater inside the Cosmopolitan
Hotel. I'm coming to Brooklyn, New York at the King's Theater on November 8th. And I have tickets
on sale throughout the end of the year in December. So if you're in a city like Philadelphia
or Bethlehem or San Diego or New Orleans or Omaha, check ChelseaHandler.com for tickets. Okay.
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If you are out there and you're dreading
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that you may have racked up, well, you could use our help.
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And together, our mission on the Really Know Really podcast
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That's right. Every Monday and Wednesday, we both invite you to unlearn the outdated narratives dictated by traditional patriarchal norms.
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